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Speaker 1: We gotta hope the rapper is here with us. Hello, Hello,

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welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. Thank you for

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the last ten weeks. It's been definitely a ride.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's easy to remember when you

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were on last because it was, uh, well actually it

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was a little over ten weeks ago. But yeah, this

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was an idea that I think I think you had

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kind of pitched it live on the show. Yeah, and

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I said, yeah, let's do that. That's a that's a

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fantastic idea.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, It's been the greatest experience for myself growing as

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an artist because when you it's kind of like going

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to the gym. Honestly, for me over the last ten weeks,

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because as you release each single, you realize like your

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faults as an artist and everything like that. And I've

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gotten really to a point where I'm ready for the

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next phase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what is the next phase? What is your

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what is your plans going forward?

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Speaker 4: So my next phase is kind of like an image

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control phase.

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Speaker 2: So as like an up and coming artist, I was

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putting up like whatever videos I can just like putting

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stuff together here and there. Yeah, I'm actually taking the

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last ten weeks to save some money, and going forward,

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I want to invest in like the social media aspect

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of things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going.

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Speaker 2: To help me personally, Like people will only come back

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to like people. As much as people say that they

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support amateurs, people don't support amateurs. People support professionals.

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Speaker 1: Now what do you mean? I expand on that if

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you would.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like I actually had a conversation

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with somebody yesterday. It's kind of like the food truck

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guy in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: So like let's say the food truck guy. Everybody knows

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the food truck guy.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves the food truck guy, but he just is

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always going to be known as the food truck guy.

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Sort of like the story of like McDonald's or something

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like that, whereas a small business wasn't willing to expand

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and somebody else saw the vision and expanded that business.

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So for me, what I need to do is not

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just market here in New England. I want to start

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like targeting everything that I'm doing in like Los Age Angels,

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New York and Miami and right here from New England.

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I'm able to do that through targeted ads. So that's

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that's kind of like an image control phase. People want

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to see you take that step, like that step, like

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if if McDonald stayed in that one neighborhood, maybe that

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whole neighborhood would have loved it. The rest of the

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world wouldn't be like McDonalds wouldn't be a problem for us,

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right right, Yeah, So, like you have to not just

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stay in your small town.

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Speaker 4: You have to be willing to expand so you can

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see the vision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course the internet makes it kind of

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easy to do that in a sense, but of course

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there's a right way and a wrong way to do it.

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And uh and you know to your point too, I

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think if you if you're not if you're not constantly

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moving forward and trying to expand what you do, then

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you you almost start to look like you're falling back

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exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: So like if I like so like a lot of

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my videos that I'm just sitting in front of my

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desk wrapping and stuff like that, Like if I just

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keep doing that for uh years and years, I'm gonna

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be the food truck guy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: But if I can now say, hey, I have.

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Speaker 2: A really great job, I have some money set aside,

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let me invest in that people are gonna be like, oh,

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what what's happening with him?

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Speaker 4: Now? It creates more interest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, by the way, if you have

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any questions or comments or feedback anything at all for

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Hope the Rapper, the studio line is open. You can

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give us a call six o three two five oh

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six oh seven six oh three two five oh six

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oh seven. And of course you can interact endo Pine

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in the chat room. Of course, I see a beep

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an artists in there and says good morning everyone, and uh,

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I saw somebody else in there too, But anyway, we

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will we'll keep an eye on that going forward.

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Speaker 1: But so what these these songs?

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Speaker 3: Is there any kind of a a theme with the

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ten singles that you that you've premiered on the radio or.

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Speaker 2: So the ten singles that I've been doing is like

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I wanted a different sound and then I wanted to

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look at the metrics without like any promotion or anything

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like that, and yeah, like what are people listening to

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right now? Actually a little bit of help that I've

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gotten through these ten singles is one of Joiner Lucas's

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producers that helped him come up, has noticed me now, Yeah,

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and now we're.

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Speaker 4: After this image control phase.

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Speaker 2: Well, during this image control phase, me and him his

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name's Knox Beats, we're gonna be working on an EP together.

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So it's okidding coming. Yeah, it's definitely a step by

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step project.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's huge. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, very good,

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very good. The songs that that you've been premiering in

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two over the last ten weeks, are these on an

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album or are these all do they all just exist

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individually as singles or are they from different places.

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Speaker 4: Or they exist individually?

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Speaker 2: Because like the EP that I have is gonna have

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and it's gonna I wanted to be like a movie. Yeah,

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so once I figure out the sound, like what what

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people are listening to, what people like for me, I

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do like to like when I wrap, I do like

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a like a conscious groups. I would like to go

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towards that direction and like be more of like somebody

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who speaks about like being more of a world together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and can you tell us too about some

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of the people you collaborated with on these Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I have the actually today you have Fate

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one coming on. Yes, So I had that single problems

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that was the most collabs I did on a song

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so far. The reason why that song meant a lot

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to me is I remember growing up I used to

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listen to like DJ Khaled. He used to be able

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to bring all these different type of artists and they'd

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go on this one beat and they'd bring all of

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their styles to this one beat.

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Speaker 4: So I have him on that track. I have.

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Speaker 2: What was it splash on that track. I have Santana

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Freco on that track, and then abm Diz who's also

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from Lowell. These all artists in LOLd So that was

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the clab on that one. I have the on my

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way that that one's gonna come out with a music

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video too, no kidding. Yeah, so that's with an artist

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from your boy Loco. Me and him are actually talking

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us because of how that sound track sounds to me.

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I think me and him are gonna be working on

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a lot more projects together.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool.

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Speaker 2: We just balanced out on a track like I come

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up with some like loud stuff and then he just

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like mellows out the track, which was really cool for me. Yeah,

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which other ones today? I have a collaboration that's gonna

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be with Jabach. He was is my best friends since

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I was like probably sixteen. Like we're really close friends

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nowadays that we are adults obviously, like we spend a

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lot more time apart and everything like that, but anytime

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that we come together and we're rapping, it's just a

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different environment. Yeah, That's what I've appreciated from him. So

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on My Way Problems.

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Speaker 1: Was a snapchat? Was that just you on that one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was that was Jenny's favorite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that that one's actually coming out with

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music video too as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh really like that one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I'm actually collaborating with this person has on

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the one Eye Visuals right out and lowell, Yes, that's

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gonna be. So we are gonna shoot ten reels in

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one day, and then we're also shooting three music videos

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all within like a three week span. Okay, yeah, so

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then I'll have thirteen different videos that I could play

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around with. Oh wow, hold in my pocket. So then

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I'm just gonna start dropping those once the fall starts.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Is it difficult when you have when you have

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all this, as you said, in your pocket, when you've

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got kind of a things that you know you can

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release on kind of a timetable, is it is that

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does that take some discipline to do that, because I

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could just imagine if you've got certain things that you're

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particularly excited about releasing, but obviously you know you don't

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just want to put it out there all at once. Yeah,

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but that must be kind of tough when it's like, oh,

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I can't wait to put this out and I but

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is kind of like the most important thing

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you could do for yourself as an artist, Like, yeah,

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you want to put out good songs, don't get me wrong,

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but like you'll you'll make these songs, certain songs, and

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you're like, that needs to be held till I'm in

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the better position. Yeah, and you have to get yourself

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in that better position. I've actually I feel like I

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have a few songs that I've dropped. When I first

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started that I should have just held for a little

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bit because as people saw me girl as an artist,

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and if I dropped this song, it would have been like,

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oh wow, okay, and that eagerness is kind of why

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I straight away for dropping for so long. But then

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I was like, I haven't dropped in a while, let's drop.

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I have a whole bunch of songs right now, I

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probably have over fifty to sixty songs ready, Oh no kidding. Yeah,

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So I was like, let me just drop ten singles

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and learn myself as an artist.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't. Yes, as an artist.

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Speaker 2: I wanted a lot of people to listen to this,

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but I wanted to learn myself my patterns. So like,

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when I drop a song, am I following through with

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a real laughter?

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Speaker 4: Am I doing this? Like? What will create the most

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success for each single?

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Speaker 2: And I do kind of see a process that is

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actually going to work out for me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And where do you?

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Speaker 3: I know we I'm sure we talked about this last time,

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but I'm always really really curious where do you record?

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Do you have a is there a studio that you

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work out of? Do you record from home?

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Speaker 4: Or yes?

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Speaker 2: So I work right out of a stupid Genius Studios

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that's right in Lowell, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then I also work with mister Goodbars of course.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes.

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Speaker 2: And more recently, who I'm going to be working with

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I is going to be knocks beats? Have you ever

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heard the song isis by Joinner Lucas and logic I

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don't think I have Okay, he also has this song

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I'm Not Racist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that what I'm very familiar with. There was

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a lot of yeah I remember when that came out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's the producer behind those tracks. Okay, so

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before Joyner was like he met Joiner whenever he was

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going to the same like grind Mo ciphers that I

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was going to, and Joinner really wasn't an artist. Yeah,

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and then they started working together and obviously join to

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put his work. But the way that this artist produced,

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the way that he listens to beats and everything like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's he's heard even tracks that I've put out in

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the last ten weeks, and he just has all these

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different ideas and that's what I need. And like, I'm

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a creative genius myself, but I don't have the years

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and everything like that behind what's popular. Like he he

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will hear a drum beat and be like that sounds

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like a pattern from twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't be using that.

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Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeahah, what do you mean a pattern from

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saying and He's like, no, in twenty seventeen, they were

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doing this, Yeah, now they're doing this. If you want

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to be on like the if you're on an algorithm correctly,

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you have to do it this way. And just little

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stuff like that, little tweaks like that, that's what makes

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the difference between the greats and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, things that most people wouldn't even wouldn't even consider. Yeah, yeah,

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it's interesting that you know the way some people can.

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And again it's through experience, as you were saying, how

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they can pick up on the subtleties of that and

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things that most people probably wouldn't even notice. I remember

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having a conversation with DJ Reckless Enough, you know, DJ

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rest Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, yeah, our adopted son, so

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to speak.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. He had done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm even supposed to talk about it,

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but I don't think it matters. He had done a

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remix of, uh, what's a Nate Smith? I think that's

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his name, World on Fire, the country song. He had

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done a remix, but I think he had done it

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with somebody else, and he played it for me, and

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it was so good. It was like a like a

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EDM remix of it.

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Speaker 1: It was really really good.

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Speaker 3: But and I was like, you got to put that out,

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or you gotta put it up somewhere you can, I

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asked him, can I play that on the show? You know?

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It's it's really catchy, yeah, and very The remix he

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did was very well done, and he was like, I

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don't know, it kind of sounds like it sounds like

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four years ago, and I'm like, four years ago?

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Speaker 1: Really? You whatever?

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Speaker 3: It sounds great, yeah, but he was very unsure of it,

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you know, about.

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Speaker 2: Putting little things like that, like yeah, and it's maybe

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what I'm thinking about it just looking from that outside

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in like it's not like music nowadays isn't good, but

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like the music that I latched onto was a little

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bit older music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So whenever I hear like these beats and everything, I'm like, wow,

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that's amazing. But I'm not thinking about the marketing. I'm

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not thinking about all those little things that are going

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to make me different. Be like yeah, that already came out.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want to be something that already

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came out.

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Speaker 2: You want to be something brand new that people gonna

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be like, oh, I've never heard that before, right, right?

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Speaker 3: Is there a risk of overthinking that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because then you don't want to be an artist

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that's too creative. So it's nothing, nothing against him at all,

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but like we have somebody like Kanye where he has

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always been dropping and he's always had success with his drops,

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but more recently and like with Vultures Too, he he

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released it, but he's releasing it as something that he's

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editing constantly m M and never put any like the

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marketing behind it. Yeah, So it was never even like

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like these sounds are something that people want to hear.

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So we're not even driving around listening to any of

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these songs. There's my growing up, my life. Anytime that

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Kanye has dropped, he's been on the radio for the

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next like month of my life.

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Speaker 4: Right and now, like.

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Speaker 2: Being too creative, we'll just make people like just look

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at you and then you just they look at you

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and then they look away because it's not something that

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they're ready to look at you.

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Speaker 4: You have to be relevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like a beat that sounds like twenty twenty

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nine is not going to help me right now in

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twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just

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I wonder, I mean, so were you always kind of

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thinking about that or is this something you've like, like

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you mentioned. I'm sorry what's his name again that the

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produced knocks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Or is this something you got from him? Or did

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you kind of already sort of so have a feeling

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for that.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't put it in words, Yeah, but i'd i'd

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like hear certain songs and them I'm like, that's a

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really good song.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, I don't know, Like I don't know why I

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don't want to release it, like yeah, like even like

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a lot of like my lyrical stuff, Like I have

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a lot of lyrical stuff that I haven't put out

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because I'm like, I don't know if I'm ready to

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release that.

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Speaker 4: For me, I think.

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Speaker 2: It's more of you have to establish your voice first.

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It's not like gain popularity. No, you have to establish

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your voice as somebody that people want to listen to. Yeah,

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once people want to listen to you, you can hit

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them with the creative stuff here and there and test

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the waters. But when you're getting into like that water,

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you don't want to just like drown yourself right right.

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You have to like slowly step into the water, feel it,

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make sure that your body can adjust to it and

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get used to that environment, and then you can be

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the fastest swimmer in the world.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, these these ten singles that you've put out,

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did any of them kind of surprise you in terms of,

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you know, because some of them are obviously collaborations. Did

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any of these kind of surprise you in how they

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came out? Did they come out differently than what you

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had initially envisioned? Obviously when you're working with other people,

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there's always that chance that something's gonna come out really different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So for me, it was the on My Way single,

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as like, for me, I was going at that like

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and then he like with his verse, he was like

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pull up, wait and then he's just like brings.

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Speaker 4: You down, And I was like, I didn't hear the

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beat that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this was gonna be like, ah, we're

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getting everybody hyped. But and then there was a way

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to bring it, like have your voice in a different

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octave yeah, and like like make it like a all right,

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we partied, let's calm down all my.

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Speaker 3: Way Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, who's kind of your Obviously

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you're very open to collaboration, and you know, and you're

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working with people who are really advanced in the industry. Now,

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do you have kind of like a dream uh, collaboration,

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maybe someone you want to record with, or maybe maybe

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a producer that you really want to work with. Just uh, like,

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do you have somebody in mind who you really want

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to work with?

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Speaker 2: So I have two people, Well, one's a possibility. One

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is I'm working towards. So I have working towards would

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be Millies right out of Boston, because that's a great artist.

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But actually recently got in touch with Jada Kiss his

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son's management, and I got a quote on the collaboration

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and everything like that. The numbers look amazing for like

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who he is son. I just found out that he

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had a son that could rap. I was like, yeah,

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wait what and he's like like young like me and

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everything like that. So I got in touch with his

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manager and everything like that. So somewhere towards the beginning

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of next year is what I think I'm gonna do

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a song with Jada Kiss the Sun outstanding, outstanding, but

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Milli's that's that. That's somebody that I really do want

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to work with. He's a local artist. He helps people

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out and everything like that, which I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I had.

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Speaker 2: This song that I released on my first EP called

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right Now, and that was with GMT Mark B and

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he ended up doing a song We're the ones who

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brought Millis out.

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Speaker 4: He did a song with one of Millie's people.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of I'm letting that song have

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its sing because I don't want to be like I

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want to take your shine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I'm going to reach out and be like, hey,

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how did this happen? That I just need to get

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in contact with the people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, we kind of assume that a lot of

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the people who listen to our show, you know, because

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of the guests that we have on in the conversations

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that we have, that a lot of them are musicians.

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Speaker 1: Do you have kind of advice.

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Speaker 3: For for people who maybe are just starting out or

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or maybe you've been doing it for a while, but

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who have made a lot of mistakes because you know,

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you're on you're on such a positive forward trajectory. Yea,

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And but a lot of people, you know, and you

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can you can just look at social media and see,

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you know a lot of people they feel like they

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get stuck. Some people they've been at it for a

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while and they feel like giving up because they they

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don't feel like they're advancing anywhere. They're not getting anywhere.

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Do you have any advice for for people who are

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kind of going through that, or maybe just somebody somebody

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really young just starting out and you want to kind

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of maybe maybe some pearls of wisdom on mistakes not

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to make and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think it goes back to that conversation

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I had with Don's Beats, which really just changed my

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mind a lot about things.

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Speaker 4: So you want to not limit your.

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Speaker 2: Capability to the visibility you're getting on social media. There's

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a lot of legwork that you can do outside of

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that for yourself as an artist, well, like that immediate

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social medium. Yeah, there's different avenues like like if you

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want to like produce beats, you can go on like beatstorm.

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You can make your own independent accounts away from your

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friends and like your family. So that way you're not

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scaling your success based upon how your immediate community is reacting.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I feel like. When I did take

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that little break, I was.

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Speaker 2: Like my immediate communit unity, I don't think they want

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me to be rapping. And when I started again, the

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medium community is like, why'd you stop those little things?

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Speaker 4: Like you don't want to scale yourself. People.

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Speaker 2: People will support you and support you and support you,

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but then you have to go find different support. Yes,

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you don't want to just have that like your initial supports.

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That's an amazing thing, don't get me wrong, But you

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need to constantly be looking and trying to put yourself

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out there. Like I said, target your instead like it

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gives you the option when you're like, first of all,

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don't get bots, go directly through those source. If you're

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going through like a Facebook, going through an Instagram, going

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through TikTok and they ask you where you want your

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ads to be, don't put it in your don't put

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in your local libor see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what attention you could get from strangers.

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Speaker 2: Because even when I first started, I was doing songs

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with people like in Florida that I'm still friends with,

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and I've never met these people. We just when I stopped,

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we just randomly stopped talking and everything like that. But

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I felt better whenever I was releasing music as something

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like for me and something that I was willing to

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put out for myself, because that's when you'll go the hardest.

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As soon as you start putting something out and then

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you look over and be like did I do a

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good job, it's eventually might somebody might be like tired

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one day. Right, it was all right, like I actually

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didn't listen to it, or like those little comments will

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start getting to you and start eating you out. Yeah,

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So the value of your success should never be based

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upon your media community.

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Speaker 3: Right right. Yeah, I think that's good advice. Yeah. And

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you always want to yeah, you always want to be

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expanding your fan base, expanding.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly because then like you'll find yourself like if

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the same people don't react, you was just like all right,

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all right, all right, I guess I'll stop because like

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these people don't like it anymore. Not knowing like you

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could put up a video ten fifteen times and it's

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going to hit the fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: You just got to keep doing your reps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really good advice. Yeah. You

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mentioned when you had taken a break before, and I

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think we talked about that too the last time you

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were here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't remember was that.

482
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Speaker 3: Because was that because you were discouraged at the time

483
00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,319
or were you just doing other things.

484
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: Or mixture of Like, so my lifestyle at the time,

485
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,079
I was like partying and everything like that. I got

486
00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:22,880
caught up in that world, and then I just would like,

487
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,359
with the people like I was partying with and hanging

488
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,240
out every day, I didn't hear them talking about like

489
00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:31,640
my music or anything like that.

490
00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:33,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's not doing as good as I thought.

491
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: So then I just like randomly it was no announcement

492
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,160
or anything like that, because that's I feel like it's

493
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,480
probably actually a really damaging thing that you could do

494
00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:45,119
to yourself as an artist. If you're gonna stop, just stop,

495
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,960
because you don't know if you'll come back, right, But

496
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,440
if you start disappointing people, they won't come back.

497
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,759
Speaker 1: Right, right exactly. Yeah, well, well said.

498
00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: Abdel, but I always butcher his name. I'm so sorry,

499
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,880
Abdel Boggie Hamadas in the Chatterman says, uh, good evening,

500
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,319
mister Mattuh what time is it now in New Hampshire.

501
00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,119
Here in Egypt it is four pm Egypt. Yeah, yeah,

502
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,000
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got nine to twenty seven

503
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:15,319
a m.

504
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,599
Speaker 1: Eastern time here.

505
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,559
Speaker 3: Everywhere you're on Tomorrow Radio in Ireland can do remos

506
00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:26,799
anywhere evening or late afternoon, perhaps arend Ireland. I have

507
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,759
no idea.

508
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: Amazing.

509
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: Hans Smith from the band Sepsis is in the chat

510
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,759
room says hey metal. Matt Hans is asking, uh, what

511
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880
inspired you to get into music?

512
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: My dad, So when we first moved to America, I

513
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,279
actually like remember the first song rap song I heard.

514
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: It's probably bow Wow.

515
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, do you remember what song.

516
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: Bow wow Wow?

517
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: I'd like remember that because oh okay, yeah, Like we

518
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:02,920
just moved to America and everything like that. We had

519
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,880
just gotten like TV and everything like that. And I

520
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,599
remember my dad he called me. I was like in

521
00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:09,960
the room or something like that. He called me over,

522
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,480
like George, Georgeorge, check this out, check this out. And

523
00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:15,799
then he's like he's young like you, and like, bout

524
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,680
is your part for me? So like that gave me

525
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,599
like a scale. I was like, oh wow, that's cool

526
00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:23,920
what he's doing. And then he started playing NAS for me.

527
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,839
Speaker 3: He oh that's right.

528
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I remember we talked about that before.

529
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

530
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,079
Speaker 2: He had this one DVD that NAS put out that

531
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,039
he bought it best By.

532
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 4: It was they Hate Me Now music video.

533
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: It was like, uh, back back in the day that

534
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:42,440
used to come out with music videos. Behind the scenes,

535
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,920
it was a whole different thing, like making the that

536
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,559
was a TV show actually on MTV, so like I'd

537
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,200
watched that over and over again.

538
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: And then so my mom found out that I was

539
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,240
listening to at music.

540
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: It was like no, no, no, no, no no, because we

541
00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:58,599
are like a religious family and some content can't affect people,

542
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,400
and so it just became something I listened to like

543
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:09,119
on my own. And then my friend in my freshman

544
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,799
year of high school, his name was Cody, he told

545
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:20,559
me that he could record music with a rock band Mike,

546
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,160
and I'm like, what are you talking about? And you

547
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,839
just plug the USB into your computer just like you

548
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,240
would like anything else, and then you can use this

549
00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:36,319
program called Audacity. So I went and I got the

550
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:42,440
instrumental for I'm Still Fly by Drake, and then I

551
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:45,799
recorded my first that was the first like recorded song,

552
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,119
was a remix I'm Still fly by Drake. I recorded

553
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,599
them and then I showed it to my dad, and

554
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:55,519
my Dad's like, okay, so make a CD and I'll

555
00:24:55,519 --> 00:25:00,640
get you to the CDs. And so then I made

556
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,799
a whole little like mixtape thing because I was what

557
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,920
was popular at the time for rappers, like you made mixtapes, yep.

558
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: So I got one hundred CDs. I forget the website

559
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,400
I got from.

560
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,759
Speaker 2: But I got one hundred CDs and then they sold

561
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:16,440
out and I was like that I sold out.

562
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,079
Speaker 4: He's like what, He's like, you sold out. I was like,

563
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:20,160
all right, we'll get some more.

564
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: And then so we got some more and then like

565
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,799
I did that till like I I pretty munch should

566
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,440
have realized, like I sold everybody that was willing to buy. Yeah,

567
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,519
this point, I sold like three hundred CDs from my

568
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:36,799
first w please, which was looking back, I'm like wow,

569
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,119
like yeah, I was fourteen, fifteen years old.

570
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: Just that's fantastic with a.

571
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Box of CDs, Like who wants these? Yeah, and people

572
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680
were buying them. And people still bring that up, like

573
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,079
remember whenever you sold.

574
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:49,279
Speaker 4: Me a CD?

575
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,319
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. Yeah, that's fantastic. Heather Stockwell is

576
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:56,319
in the chat room and says, uh, did you ask

577
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,960
about the name Hope? How did that name come about?

578
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

579
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: Where does you derive hope from? Personally?

580
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,599
Speaker 3: Oh?

581
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,559
Speaker 1: Great question, Heather, Okay, perfect.

582
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: So Hope was the second name I chose.

583
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:14,559
Speaker 2: So when I first gone into music itself, like producing

584
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,640
music itself, it was so I was into rap because

585
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,200
my dad, but producing music, I got into DJing. Yeah,

586
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,000
so I was DJ unsigned minor and then at a

587
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,279
certain point I told myself that's not marketing.

588
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like it. That's kind of cool.

589
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,319
Speaker 4: Like if for me, I was like, you're not going

590
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,359
to be a minor forever.

591
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

592
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, turning into like I think I was turning like

593
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,039
thirteen fourteen, I'm like, no, you're getting older now you're teenager.

594
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:43,720
You're not a minor, right, But I was still a

595
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,359
minor obviously. Yeah.

596
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: So then I was thinking of like different names, and

597
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,680
I was like, what do I.

598
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 2: Want to talk about like at the end of the day, Like,

599
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,599
if I'm gonna like have a rap name, it has

600
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,680
to be something I talk about.

601
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

602
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:56,799
Speaker 2: At that point, I just decided most of my raps

603
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,319
are going to be more of a positive, hopeful message. Yeah,

604
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,519
I Hope the Rapper. And then I was upset actually

605
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:07,799
because a year or two after I came out with

606
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,839
Hope the Rapper, Chance the Rapper came out yes, and

607
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,920
I was like, I thought it was so creative and

608
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,960
he blew up before me, right right, So, like I

609
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,400
was for my own to just remind myself, I came

610
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,839
out with Hope the rapper for us. I always look

611
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,359
up like when he came out, and then like when

612
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,079
I came out and he was like all right cool, yeah, yeah,

613
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,680
not going crazy.

614
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

615
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: I can relate to that a little bit because you know,

616
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920
with the name of the radio show. Whenever I see

617
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Unleashed in something the name of somebody's radio show or podcast, I'm.

618
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh, like I did that.

619
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. But the good news is, you know, it's extremely

620
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,559
unlikely that I'm ever going to find another Matt connorton

621
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,599
Unleashed because exactly Connor, there actually is another Matt connord

622
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,519
in New Hampshire. Yeah, but he's my uncle, so it

623
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:50,079
doesn't count.

624
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, family, Yes, yes.

625
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: Hans is also asking do you have a favorite song

626
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:56,359
of all time?

627
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

628
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,279
Speaker 3: He lists a few genre genres here metal, hip pop,

629
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,400
or reggae. I don't know if you listen to metal

630
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,519
at all, but although hanging out, hanging out with mister goodbars,

631
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:06,599
you might have heard some stuff.

632
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've I've heard metal.

633
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: And he produces everything. He's he's like the most diverse producer.

634
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: First, Like, so I it was a whole Me and

635
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,640
him were just like internet friends.

636
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I went to a studio for the first time,

637
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,400
and I realized his diversity, and I'm like, this is

638
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680
this man's creative He's not He's not just it's not

639
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:27,799
just a rapper I'm looking at.

640
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,599
Speaker 4: This is a musician.

641
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah it all.

642
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,759
Speaker 4: I know it all. You can rap, you can like

643
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:34,799
just get it. Yeah.

644
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,279
Speaker 2: But so I can say metal is just a category

645
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,400
that I've been just getting into. One of my employees

646
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,839
at work, Gavin he like just has been introduced me

647
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,559
to artists because I'm trying to have more of like

648
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:48,960
an open mind when it comes to music.

649
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: No woman, no cry.

650
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,519
Speaker 2: If for talking reggae, yeah, and rap.

651
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: Music, that would be that's a hard one.

652
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,119
Speaker 3: It probably probably changes, right.

653
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if I were to say I know I can't,

654
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,960
is that I don't know if I can.

655
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 4: I know I can buy nas? Yeah, Yeah, that's that.

656
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: That was a song because that if I think back

657
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,559
to like really like looking at that music video and

658
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:20,960
everything like that at the time, like hard Knock Life

659
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,680
came out, that song came out, but that song a

660
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920
little resonated with me a little bit more and just

661
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,559
hearing like the kids in the background. Ye, I want

662
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:29,039
to be on a song that big one day. Yeah,

663
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,640
maybe not the kid in the background, but I want

664
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,039
to be on a song that big one day.

665
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think my favorite is uh it kind of

666
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,839
changes over time, but I think Jay Z ninety nine problems.

667
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 4: Once you hear that guitar is just like different. Yeah

668
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,519
yeah yeah.

669
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:51,359
Speaker 3: Rick Rick Rubin did an amazing job on that. Yeah.

670
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,079
I thought I saw another question in there, but maybe not. No,

671
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:59,960
I guess not the But you as far as producing

672
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,960
now currently though, you everything's pretty much self produced, right,

673
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:07,400
I mean obviously when you're collaborating with people, but I

674
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,680
mean the songs like like Snapchat that's just you on that, right,

675
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:10,920
did you?

676
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Did you do that all yourself?

677
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: No?

678
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,079
Speaker 4: So that I have a producer that I work with close.

679
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: His name's Chaz Oh Okay, he actually runs a stupid

680
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,640
genius studio. Oh right right right, So self producing, I

681
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,279
like do that like on my own right now, I'm

682
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,319
really learning how to like get that down. But I

683
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960
found like whenever, like I was first releasing music, that

684
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:35,119
was like a stress.

685
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Factor for me.

686
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I'd have a really good song, but

687
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,000
I listened to it so many times. I'm just like

688
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:44,880
mm hmmm, yeah, but like having like for me having

689
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,599
it like that produces there for me. Were we bounce

690
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,759
off ideas back and forth, so like snapchat like started

691
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,680
out with like a different like tone and everything like that,

692
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,279
and he's like bring it up a little bit, like

693
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,640
and we did those little tweaks to the song. Yeah,

694
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:01,720
just having that creative mind in the studio with me,

695
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,000
bouncing ideas back and forth has been the most helpful

696
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:05,240
for me.

697
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because some people are kind of the

698
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,559
opposite where they can't and and maybe some people I

699
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,119
think maybe it's ego or they just or they get

700
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,880
nervous letting someone else, you know, have any control over anything.

701
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,279
Speaker 1: But some people can only self produce, you know what

702
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:21,599
I mean.

703
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it's like they can't they can't

704
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,519
else And.

705
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's overwhelming and like that that too.

706
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: So like I I one hundred percent was there, But

707
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:35,400
then I was just thinking about for me, my like

708
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,279
releasing the music, like I want to be able to

709
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,079
not really necessary basically have no effort, and like I

710
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680
spent all this time recording because when I write and

711
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,680
like stuff like that, if I'm like actually writing and

712
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,359
not just like rapping as I go, it's it's a

713
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,039
research process for me, like I look up references and

714
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,640
everything like that because I want you to be complete. Yeah,

715
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,400
so I'll look up like if I say something about

716
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
like a bottle of water, I look up like the

717
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
history of water and try to come up with a

718
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,599
line for the next line based on what I've learned.

719
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440
So it if you like look at it lyrically, you

720
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,359
could actually learn a lot.

721
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: Are there other artists who who you know who who

722
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,039
do that, who have said that they do it that way?

723
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,039
Because there are there are some people you listen to

724
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:20,880
and you think, how do they how do they come

725
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,880
up with these words?

726
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,559
Speaker 4: No, so that I feel like that's an untalked about world. Yeah,

727
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:29,720
in the rap world, like how did you write this?

728
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,079
Like what what were you doing?

729
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Because like I think as an artist, we think like

730
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
there's some songs that like it'll sound like the happiest

731
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,759
song in the world, but you weren't in the right

732
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,799
place whenever you wrote that song, like you were trying

733
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,000
to get yourself out of that right and that's songs

734
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880
that would helped. So I think talking about that's that's

735
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440
an interesting question you asked about that because like talking

736
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,039
about the writing process, I don't think I've ever sat

737
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,240
down with another rhye and be like, what were you

738
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:55,799
doing whenever like you wrote this, Like how do you

739
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,559
what's your what's your process? Yeah, everybody's like it's like

740
00:32:58,559 --> 00:32:59,640
the secret recipe.

741
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. I've always been kind of fascinated by that.

742
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,880
That and the uh the memory skills that it must

743
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,920
take that I assume you just develop over time, right, Yeah.

744
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,759
Speaker 2: No, So the memory skills are interesting because I wonder

745
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,359
how other rappers do it. Me I because I like

746
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,200
I had the history with music. I'll use like parts

747
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,400
of like the beat, the tone and everything like that.

748
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,400
I'm like, once it drops an octave, that's when my

749
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,119
voice starts.

750
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I have a song.

751
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: That I was writing recently that like I wrote it

752
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,599
in my car because I could hear it a certain way,

753
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:34,839
and then I want to go play it in some

754
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,519
different speakers and I didn't hear that drop. Everything was

755
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,599
off and it took me a while to like get

756
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,680
myself back to that point.

757
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,759
Speaker 3: So it can backfire, yeah, yeah, because I you know,

758
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,759
I've I've played in rock bands and uh, you know

759
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,799
a rock song, you know you got two or three verses,

760
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,039
maybe four lines on the age it's easy, you know,

761
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,759
you just you just learn it. It's if you listened

762
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,920
to it a few times, you you know the lyrics.

763
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
But uh, but I pop song, it's like there's a

764
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440
lot of words. That's something I've always been really fascinated by.

765
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,000
And I think too, And I've I've had this argument

766
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:11,679
with people because and uh, somebody specific does come to mind,

767
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,480
and Jenny probably knows who I'm thinking of this someone

768
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,039
we know in particular who's very critical of hip hop,

769
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,280
who just doesn't like it. But the thing that I've

770
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320
always told people too is, you know, one of the

771
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,480
things that rappers don't get enough credit for is just

772
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,000
being able to remember all those words and and then

773
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,199
and being able to recall that and deliver those words,

774
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,119
especially like.

775
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Like battle rappers.

776
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like those and they show up prepared with all that,

777
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,519
Like how do they remember all?

778
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: That's amazing to me?

779
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: It must be like like memorizing dialogue from a movie script,

780
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,800
like like because I can't imagine being able to do

781
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,119
that either.

782
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: And I think I have a pretty good memory, but

783
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,159
I don't know how.

784
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how actors managed to do that. I'm

785
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,320
fascinated by that.

786
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm that that that I'm fascinated so me, I would

787
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,679
have to say the reasons why am I right makes

788
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:03,239
sense is because of like the memory part, because like

789
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,559
I'll remember like the storyline behind as I'm rapping. Maybe

790
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,440
not everybody I was able to see it, but I

791
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
always have like a different vision.

792
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: Battle rappers to me though, are some of not.

793
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 2: If not the most like influential for me because like

794
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,000
they have no beat, They're they're telling a story and

795
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,360
they don't miss a beat. I'm actually funny you mentioned

796
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:37,400
battle rappers. Next Saturday. Next yeah, yeah, next Saturday. I'm

797
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,119
actually opening up for one of the biggest battle rappers

798
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,960
in the world in Massachusetts. His name's Charlie Clips.

799
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 3: Yes, his name came up recently, I think. I think

800
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,760
when we were talking with good Bars, actually his name

801
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,119
came up and and I ended up going one because

802
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,400
I I'm really fascinated by that stuff. So I found

803
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,519
some of like what was the I think did he

804
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,320
battle Daylight? Yeah?

805
00:35:58,559 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that was one of the ones

806
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:00,599
I watched.

807
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: Daylight. I'm kind of fascinated by.

808
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh he Daylight.

809
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:05,679
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't give him credit, like he's

810
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,440
he's a little weird, but like, yeah, he writes for

811
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:10,000
a lot of industry rappers.

812
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.

813
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:12,039
Speaker 4: If you look up.

814
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: His accreditation, this the songs that you wouldn't think that

815
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Daylight wrote, and he wrote that.

816
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

817
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:19,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, like he might.

818
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: So at first, I was like kind of unwilling to

819
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,800
accept him because of like how abstract it was, like

820
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,920
we were talking about earlier.

821
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: But then I realized, like, no, he's just doing that

822
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:29,760
because he can't.

823
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh he's brilliant.

824
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah no, He's talks about things that like you will

825
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,119
have to do research, and then once you do the research,

826
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,119
like oh.

827
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, yeah no, those those guys are fascinating to me.

828
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,360
I I recently saw some battle raps on YouTube, guy

829
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,960
named and then and then I found out he was

830
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,119
just murdered. Pat Stay, Yeah from Toronto. Yeah no, Pat Stay,

831
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:56,320
he's I saw a couple of his and then and

832
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,519
then I so I looked at more about him, and

833
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,239
I'm like, oh my god, he died.

834
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,039
Speaker 1: He's like thirty six or something like super young.

835
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:05,159
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, yeah, Pat's dam I'm not

836
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,760
sure if it was him or diabolic but Eminem actually

837
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,639
made a movie on battle Rap, another.

838
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: Movie on Battle Rap. Oh, I didn't know that him

839
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,440
or Diabolic are in it.

840
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,159
Speaker 2: And it's about a young kid who's just like a

841
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:24,159
middle school student or a high school student and he

842
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,679
just is trying to make it in the Battle of

843
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,400
the Yeah, that world. So it's like very eight mile ish. Yeah,

844
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,039
but I think you can see it actually on two B.

845
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

846
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a really good a lot. I'm

847
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,599
surprised that eminem didn't get it on Netflix or something.

848
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even know about it.

849
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 4: Recently, just came out and really good.

850
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be damned.

851
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, my favorite is my

852
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,320
all time I go back and watch it every once

853
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,039
in a while. Cortez versus Daylight.

854
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,599
Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen that.

855
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to see it. It's really Cortes is

856
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:56,079
amazing too. Cortes is just just so so good. Yeah,

857
00:37:56,079 --> 00:38:01,239
because there's that oh King of the Dot, apparently they're

858
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,920
still around.

859
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're actually gonna be.

860
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,159
Speaker 3: Karen Lawrence, right, they do like some stuff and Lawrence.

861
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're gonna be doing a battle soon and

862
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239
within the next two weeks with the Talk of the

863
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Town folks.

864
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: Oh okay with Gussie Hendrix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

865
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,840
He was interesting to talk to. He's got he's got

866
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,519
a lot going on. I was, but have you been

867
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:21,559
on his podcast yet?

868
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah? You have been?

869
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so little little side interviews that it shows because

870
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,480
I mainly collaborate with him for a lot of shows. Yeah,

871
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,199
so we got two show, one show this month, one

872
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:36,800
show next month. So he his work ethic, that's why

873
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:38,920
it's an amazing person to have in your circle.

874
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

875
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: He just goes and goes and goes and goes, and

876
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,239
like he sees the vision like he did.

877
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,559
Speaker 2: It's tunnel vision for that and that's the kind of

878
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:48,039
tunnel vision I want to try to adapt.

879
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I looked online and I was like, oh,

880
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,159
he makes a lot of content.

881
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:53,159
Speaker 1: He's very, very busy.

882
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely outside of that, he's working too, so right crazy.

883
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well but that's what it takes, right Yeah, so.

884
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: No, good, good for him, Good for him.

885
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,519
Speaker 3: So now, what's so we've done the ten weeks but

886
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,679
you did mention so you have another single you're working

887
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,039
on now or yes?

888
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,679
Speaker 2: So that that single I'm really excited for. It's just

889
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,840
got the final version this week. So one thing about

890
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
music is, like I said, my mom shed we've grown

891
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,880
up in a Christian home. She just kept it together

892
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,199
that way, and so she's always asked me to make

893
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,280
like a Christian song.

894
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had mentioned that last time you were here.

895
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeh, yeah, So I have this this one song.

896
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 2: One of the first people when I was on that

897
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,559
rock band Mike, to get me off the rock band Mike.

898
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:43,119
He brought me to the Boys and Girls Club in Nashville,

899
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,480
which has a studio for the kids to use.

900
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh that's cool.

901
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,159
Speaker 2: That's shout out to the Boys and Girls Club in Nashville,

902
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,920
because that place gave me a lot of hope because

903
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,239
it was the first place I saw a soundboard. It's

904
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,199
the first place I saw an actual booth. And so

905
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,840
he Rich Rhymes or is c s Lit Now his

906
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,239
name was Rich Rhymes cs Lit. He brought me there

907
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,239
and like got memberships and then that just became somewhere

908
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
that I like, that's how I got from transition from

909
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,800
the rock band Mic to the booth.

910
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, Oh, that's very cool and that and

911
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,519
that's that studio.

912
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:20,559
Speaker 3: Is still there.

913
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, studio is still there. It's in the teen room.

914
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: So if like you're a teenager and you're a national

915
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,519
New Hampshire and you're looking to make music and you

916
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:29,920
don't know't necessarily what to do, you go to the

917
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,320
boys Club and there's.

918
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,679
Speaker 3: A spot for you, no kidding, that's awesome.

919
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: Do they have somebody there?

920
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: I assume they have someone there who kind of shows

921
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,199
the kids how to Yeah, there must be some sort

922
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,880
of a class, right that they offered us.

923
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't think there was a class, but there is

924
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:45,079
like an in house producer. Yeah, but like that's awesome.

925
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,199
The awesome part is is yeah, so like, yes, it

926
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:50,920
would be cool to have an in house producer and

927
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,960
everything like that. We were left alone to learn a

928
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,119
lot of that. Yeah, so like we learned how to

929
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,440
mix a master on on they had they.

930
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: But that can be an advantage long term too, when

931
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,360
when you're forced to figure it out exactly.

932
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're given you're sixteen years old, somebody puts fruity

933
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,440
loops in front of you and you're just like, yep,

934
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,159
I mean I have everything I can to make the song.

935
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,079
Speaker 4: So if I want to make it and this is

936
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:13,800
how I have to do it?

937
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And For listeners who don't know Fruity Loops

938
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,239
is a recording program. Some people might think you're talking

939
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,880
about cereal.

940
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,159
Speaker 2: I remember the first time that people were like, did

941
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:25,800
you get Fruity Loops? And I'm just like looking at you,

942
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,760
I'm like, what do you I'm asking how to make

943
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,159
me right?

944
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,199
Speaker 3: Right? I was literally imagining you looking at a bottle

945
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:34,280
of steiler right right?

946
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,519
Speaker 1: What do I do with this?

947
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Love?

948
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: I know that honestly one of my favorite cereals.

949
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: Social Oh really yeah, well, so all the time goes quickly,

950
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,039
but and this ten weeks flew by.

951
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad we were able

952
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:49,880
to do that.

953
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,679
Speaker 3: And again, you know, going forward, anything if you you know,

954
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
we'd love to be the first supremiere it anything that

955
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,079
you put out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll probably send that a song to you guys

957
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that I've dropping in in like two weeks.

958
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Speaker 1: Oh please? Yeah, yeah, awesome? And uh what else should

959
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we not do?

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Speaker 2: You?

961
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Speaker 1: Do you have any shows coming up or anything you

962
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want up?

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Speaker 2: So next next Saturday, have the show with Charlie Clips

964
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that's in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with the Talk of the town

965
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480
folks and go on talk of the town's Facebook page

966
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to get some more information on that next month we're doing.

967
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It's gonna be interesting on one eye visuals versus talk

968
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,679
of the town is completely friendly yea. But like artists

969
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,960
that work would like typically perform at Chalcola Town are

970
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just that typically perform with one eye visuals. We're gonna

971
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be in Lowell, Massachusetts doing a show over at the Smokehouse.

972
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Speaker 1: Cool.

973
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Speaker 2: And then other than that, what I'm going to be

974
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doing for myself is I'm dropping a lot of videos. Yeah,

975
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expect a lot of videos, a lot of content, proper

976
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,800
marketing towards every single one, Yeah, and just really elevating

977
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things to the next lab level and working on image control.

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Speaker 3: Oh, very cool, very cool? And uh, where should people

979
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go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?

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Speaker 2: So Instagram is Hope the Rap. You could look up

981
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Hope the wrapper on face Book. TikTok would also be

982
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Hope the Rap and TikTok, Instagram and Facebook, and then

983
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,000
you could always look at my music videos on YouTube

984
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:14,679
too as well, Hope the Rapper. I do have a

985
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,000
new music video called fourth in Gold that came out

986
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a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Shot those with actually people that work were joining Lucas,

989
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,400
so it's nice to align myself with people that brought

990
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somebody else to the next level.

991
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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much and

992
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in a moment we'll end the segment with we'll play

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it again Aviction. Notice the brand new single. Thank you

994
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:36,760
and we look forward to hearing everything that you do

995
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in the future. Always wonderful to have you on.

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00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, and thank you

997
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for having my friends on. This is a great platform.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, absolutely glad to do it.