WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:04.440 Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:07.040 listening to Wicked and Grim. 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:08.560 A true crime podcast. 4 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.000 Yeah. 5 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:12.000 Morning. 6 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:19.039 The following podcast content and material intended more mature audience 7 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:20.760 listener discretion. 8 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.280 What's up? Welcome to Episode four? 9 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.880 Episode four. It's so exciting. 10 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.240 We're actually we're getting like some momentum on this and 11 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:50.000 I'm digging it. Yeah, it's it's becoming in our routine, 12 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.880 sit down, do the podcast, do the Instagram thing. 13 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:54.479 Talk to people. 14 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:56.840 I like it, But the next one, the next one, 15 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.799 I'm gonna have to research and I haven't started. 16 00:00:58.880 --> 00:00:59.960 So do you even know what you're gonna be? 17 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:03.280 Do you want me to be truthful? 18 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.920 The truthful answer is no, isn't it no idea? 19 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:09.439 I've got like a plethora of cases that I want 20 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:09.760 to cover it. 21 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:11.719 I just haven't spent the time yet. Like I'm so 22 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.760 interested in true crime, and I know, like if I 23 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:15.519 just spend five minutes, I'll probably have a list of 24 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.879 like ten, but I just haven't done that yet, gotcha. 25 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.760 Yeah, Yeah, Like I listened to true crime podcasts and 26 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.799 I watch like the Netflix and YouTube videos and stuff, 27 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.799 and I'm constantly adding to it and people talking to 28 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.400 me about it lately too, because this podcast being like, hey, 29 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.560 you should cover this one or cover this one, so 30 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:32.920 my list is growing by day. 31 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.599 Well, it's actually funny because I feel like you listen 32 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.480 to true crime podcasts more than me now and before 33 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:39.319 it was reversed. 34 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.760 Yeah, definitely, that's definitely the case. Now I probably listened 35 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.840 to like a true crime podcast well like Monday to 36 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.439 Friday on the way home and from to and from 37 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:49.159 work sort of. 38 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:52.200 Thing, because you get you can listen to one episode 39 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.920 in one day, right, because you listened half on your 40 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:56.519 way and half on the way on a way to 41 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:57.640 work in half on the way home. 42 00:01:57.760 --> 00:01:58.920 Yeah, which kind of sucks. 43 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.920 That would sup because I'm like, I'm in the story, 44 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:02.920 the suspense. 45 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.840 Is building, how can you turn it off? Well, I 46 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.640 have to. I gotta work, so then I couldn't do it. 47 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:08.840 I got to work for. 48 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.479 Like nine hours a day, and then I have to 49 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:14.199 like stew on the episode all day at work and 50 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:15.319 then I get to finally. 51 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:15.400 Listen to it. 52 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:16.360 That sounds awful. 53 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.000 It is terrible, but it works. 54 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:19.800 But I just also want to throw it out there 55 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.400 if anyone has any like recommendations or stories that they 56 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.960 want us to do like by all means hit us up. Yeah, 57 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.159 I would be totally fine with doing one that someone recommended, 58 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:33.039 So probably just via Instagram. Hey, Wicked and Grim, send 59 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:34.120 us a message. 60 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:35.400 Yes, send us a message. We'll make sure that there's 61 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:36.879 a story up so you can apply. 62 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:37.960 We were supposed to do that already. 63 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.159 We'll make sure we do it after recording this episode. Yeah, 64 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:41.919 so make sure there's a story up where you can 65 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:43.919 just like watch a story. It's gonna be right at 66 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:45.599 the very top. Click on it and you can just 67 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.360 type in your your response to us and what you want. 68 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.240 Us to talk about and ongoing submit requests exactly. Yeah. 69 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:54.240 I don't know about you, but I'm like freezing right now. 70 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:55.680 Our host is freezing. 71 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.159 I have like a long sleeve shirt and a hoodie 72 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.360 on hood up over. 73 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.639 Top of my head, drinking cold beer, which I mean 74 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:02.319 isn't helping you. 75 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.280 I mean, when am I not drinking cold beer? 76 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.520 That's very true, And it's funny because it's actually the 77 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:08.919 warmest it's been in forever. It's like one degree outside 78 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:09.719 and we're freezing. 79 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.159 I know it like spring is on its way, although 80 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:13.879 it's still technically winter right now. We got a little 81 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:15.280 ways to go before springs here. 82 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.280 They've still got snow, lots of snow, lots of cold. 83 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:20.439 Yeah, it's making the huskies happy though. 84 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:22.240 We went for a nice walk today. That was so 85 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.120 nice though. That's probably what that's always what chills. 86 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.360 Me well in the wind out there today. 87 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.479 Yeah, that that definitely sets in a chill and like 88 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.479 your bone, so that's going to do it for us. 89 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.639 And now the doggles are chewing on bones nomnam. 90 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.000 Maybe they'll leave us alone and Ripley won't fart in 91 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:37.719 this podcast. 92 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:42.520 Yeah. Oh that was brutally Oh yeah, yeah, I mean 93 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.400 at the if they're listening to this one, you probably 94 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.919 listened to episode three and I could hardly get through 95 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.240 what I was saying because the stench was so bad. 96 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.919 I had a good laugh. I didn't even smell it. 97 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:53.960 I don't know how. 98 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.479 One what else? They don't know how what. I don't 99 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.000 know how this case happened. 100 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.960 I'm excited a transition or not. 101 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:03.400 I don't know. 102 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.280 But you put a lot of giving me a lot 103 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.319 of suspense for listening to this. I've told you nothing, yeah, 104 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.960 but you've also said it's like so crazy, so wild. 105 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.039 That's basically all you've said. So I'm quite intrigued. 106 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:13.520 It is. 107 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.680 It's it's not like crazy and wild in a way 108 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:18.199 that you're. 109 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:18.680 Going to think it is. 110 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.240 Can you guys hear the bones in the background, the 111 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.879 dogsturreing the bottles, You probably can. I know Meek is 112 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.360 being really loud, So if you hear. 113 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.839 That, sorry, it's just apologize. I mean, it's better than 114 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:29.040 them doing other things. 115 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.199 Yeah, well, it's probably going to happen lot. 116 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.279 We're in a tiny home recording a podcast with two 117 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:34.319 huskies beside us. 118 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.399 Yeah, well, they don't even know we're moving into a 119 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:37.000 tiny home. 120 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.160 Oh, we're moving into a tiny home this year. 121 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.680 Guys. In the summer bomb dropped boom. We're at our house. 122 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:43.720 We're going to go to a tiny home. 123 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.079 Anyways, we'll talk about that maybe on our Instagram or 124 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:46.879 something or another. 125 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:47.399 Other time later. 126 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.120 To get into this, I'm ready. So this is the 127 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:52.759 Canada's largest man hunt. 128 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.879 To date, like to date, which is kind of weird 129 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:56.720 that I haven't heard of this. 130 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.480 Then I haven't heard of it until recently. Either happened 131 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:01.920 in nineteen thirty one. 132 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.240 Okay, that's probably why I haven't heard about. 133 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:07.240 And it is the case of the mad trapper of 134 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:14.439 rat River suspense naming their hand river. Okay, so it 135 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.040 takes place in the northwest, in northwest Canada and of 136 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.360 course the early nineteen hundreds, so we're talking like Northwest territories, 137 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.759 the Yukon, like north of US even, which is kind 138 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:28.319 of crazy because yeah, so a lot of like fur 139 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:32.319 trading is still really prominent. Native North Americans, the Gwichin 140 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.879 tribe lived in this area and they practiced many of 141 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.160 their traditional ways still. The Hudson's Bay Company the Northwest 142 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.680 Company were also established in the area. So like a 143 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.600 lot of fur tradings happening, a lot of hunting, and 144 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.639 there was actually like during the Great Depression, a lot 145 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.480 of people moved in this area and were like developing 146 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.480 themselves as trappers as well. A lot of them kind 147 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.639 of got in over their heads though, so they didn't 148 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:56.680 really know what they're doing. But that's there's a lot 149 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:58.800 of people trying to get into the industry, is basically 150 00:05:58.800 --> 00:05:59.439 what I'm trying. 151 00:05:59.279 --> 00:05:59.639 To say here. 152 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.639 Yes, way back in the day, our parents weren't even 153 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.240 alive then. Dang, it's way back in the day, no. 154 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.800 Kidding, Well, it's almost one hundred years ago. Yeah, So 155 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.399 in the summer of nineteen thirty one, a man going 156 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.959 by the name of Albert Johnson arrived in Fort McPherson 157 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.759 by the way of the Peel River on a raft. 158 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.800 He entered Fort McPherson and he entered the Trading Post, 159 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:28.000 the local trading post owned by the Hudson Bay Company. 160 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.920 The chief trader at the Hudson's Bay Company named Bill Douglas, 161 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.399 he was at the trading post and he spoke shortly 162 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.519 with this Albert Johnson. Albert went in there. He was 163 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.040 very abrupt, you know, kind of brushing by some of 164 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.319 the locals, just kind of he knew. 165 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:45.279 What he was doing. 166 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:46.279 He was on a mission. 167 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:47.040 He was on a mission. 168 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.399 He was definitely not going to stop by our deans 169 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:51.480 and you know, look at some stuff there and maybe 170 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.399 go over to Sears, not ordering her to the catalog. 171 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.040 Like he knew what he was doing. He was going 172 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:57.160 to get his stuff and leave. 173 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.000 Okay, yeah, I like that, right. 174 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.680 So he spoke shortly and ordered to supplies and evaded 175 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:05.360 like any questions as he could. He was kind of 176 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.399 like a shady looking figure sort of thing, like Bill 177 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:10.360 Douglas described him. He was a medium sized man between 178 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.279 thirty five to forty years old, slightly stooped shoulders, sun red, 179 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.319 and skin fly bitten most likely. 180 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.240 Well, he was just journeying on a raft. 181 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:20.439 Well, he said he looked like he was a loner 182 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.879 and obviously lived alone in the wilderness for months because 183 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.199 of his sun redd and skin the fly bitten, that 184 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:25.839 sort of thing. 185 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:26.360 Like a hermit. 186 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:27.399 Yeah, pretty much. 187 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.199 He also said he was this is actually kind of funny, 188 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.360 you kind of like a jab at him. He's the 189 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.560 most unlikely material for romance. 190 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:37.720 Oh, thank gosh. 191 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:38.279 Like burn. 192 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.600 That's like a burn like but very subtle. 193 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:42.160 Wow. 194 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.000 Okay, there he went there. 195 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.759 Okay, yeah, definitely he went there. 196 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.639 So he ordered some supplies and you know, he left 197 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.120 and over the course of the next ten days he 198 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.079 spent fourteen hundred dollars on supplies, which. 199 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.240 Is rob a ton of money back then, right. 200 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.519 In nineteen thirty one, And of course you don't have 201 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.040 debit or credit or anything. 202 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:05.240 You're paying in cash. It's a ton to this. 203 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.040 It would equal out today to be about twenty two thousand, 204 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.600 two hundred and forty dollars. 205 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:12.920 Holy man, he's roaded now. 206 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:14.959 Of course, there's inflation and stuff like it's probably going 207 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.399 to change today to tomorrow. 208 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.519 Yeah, exactly. So it's an estimate. 209 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:22.079 And one thousand dollars today is a little less than 210 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.519 sixteen thousand dollars. Sorry, A thousand dollars then is a 211 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.839 little less than a fixed thousand dollars then is a 212 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.639 little less than sixteen thousand dollars to day. Just to 213 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.200 kind of give you a perspective. Okay, So over the 214 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.360 course of the ten days, he spent fourteen hundred dollars 215 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:41.879 and he was carrying thousands in cash on him really, 216 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.600 which is really weird, not necessarily just for the inflation 217 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.279 even but trappers they didn't do that. 218 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.480 Oh yeah, I'm very intrigued of how he got all 219 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.120 his cash. Well everyone is am I going to find out? 220 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:57.360 Well, no, no, you won't. I wish we could, but 221 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:01.600 it's not the case here. So Bill Douglas also figured 222 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.639 out that Albert was outfitting himself to trap up the 223 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.879 Rat River in the Rat River country. Word quickly spread around, 224 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:12.120 you know, through the town everything of this this new individual, 225 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.600 and it reached the local RCNP in a nearby settlement 226 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:19.600 called a Clavic, and Constable Edgar Millan traveled to Fort 227 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:24.200 McMillan to Fort McPherson, sorry to investigate this strange man, 228 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.080 you know, like what's going on because a lot of 229 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.360 times when trappers come in a new area, they announced 230 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:30.039 himself like hey, you know, I'm going to be going 231 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.919 to be trapping here, and especially to the local tribes, 232 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.240 people in the Gwitchin tribe, and they you know, like 233 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:36.399 say this is what's happening. 234 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:37.919 Himself, he kept to himself. 235 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.720 He didn't announce himself and Gwichin tribe a lot of 236 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:42.600 times even when a new guy came in, they would 237 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.440 like help him out, you know, make sure that he 238 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:47.799 knew the area, knew the land, or even would like 239 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:48.960 sew clothing for him. 240 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:51.440 Mean, he was well equipped. None of that happened here. 241 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:52.919 So it was a very strange situation. 242 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.240 Yeah, it seems like it is interesting. 243 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.759 So Edgar Millan traveled to Fort McPherson to investigate this guy. 244 00:09:58.840 --> 00:09:59.919 I'm sure everything was fine. 245 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:02.840 So Milne was thirty years old and he was known 246 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.000 for his good humor, common sense, and really good bush crafts. 247 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.159 So he was an all around like good RCMP individual 248 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:12.639 and he was literally the perfect man to approach and 249 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:14.000 talk to Johnson and learn more. 250 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:15.320 So that's why he was dispatched. 251 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:16.759 Right, okay, makes sense. 252 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:23.399 So consper Constaber, I can't talk today. Constable Millin first 253 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.519 went to the trading post when he arrived in Fort 254 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.039 McPherson to talk with Bill Douglass and get some more 255 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.600 information before he tracked down Albert Johnson. 256 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:32.799 While talking to Bill. 257 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.159 Douglass, he learned, you know everything we've already learned. Then 258 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.559 he came down the Peel River and he described him. 259 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.519 And he also said that recently, in the last couple 260 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.440 of days, he bought a nine foot canoe off a 261 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:46.720 local witchen and by all indicate indications, he still intended 262 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:47.720 on trapping. 263 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:48.559 Up the Rat River. 264 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:50.480 What happened to his raft? 265 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.039 Well, I'm pretty sure that a canoe would be better 266 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.879 than a sitty little raft that he managed to put together, right, 267 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:57.480 so he upgraded basically there. 268 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.679 Well, yeah, he's loaded might as well. 269 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:00.600 Yeah, no kidding. 270 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.840 So Constable Millan said, you know, I better talk to him. 271 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.960 He doesn't know the Rat River area. He doesn't know 272 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:08.559 what's going on because there's there's some rough waters up there. 273 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.519 There's a Rat River rapids which are known for people 274 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:12.000 to like. 275 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:13.519 Not do too well. 276 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.279 Long okay, okay, So. 277 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:19.519 Millan found Albert Johnson at a steamboat landing just down 278 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.720 by the river, introduced himself, you know, shook his hand, 279 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.600 and Albert was like reluctantly shaking his hand back, and 280 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:26.320 he was just kind. 281 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.399 Of like leave me alone pretty much. That was kind 282 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:29.240 of his attitude. 283 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:31.600 He asked Johnson if he could do anything for him, 284 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.720 and Johnson was like super abrupt and hurried, and he 285 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.080 was like, no, no, I'm just leaving. 286 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.600 So it's just just like wants to brush him off 287 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:40.200 pretty much. 288 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:44.080 So Milan described Johnson again as thirty to forty years old. 289 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.679 He's about five foot ten inches, upturned nose, a broad, 290 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:52.679 flat face, curiously stiff features, ice blue eyes, and clean shaven, 291 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:56.720 which was like really uncommon for trappers to be clean shaven. Well, 292 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.840 he wasn't like completely clean shaven, but like fairly clean shaven. 293 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.720 You maybe stubble or something like that. A lot of trappers, 294 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:04.080 you know, get the big old burly. 295 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.960 Beard, and that's what actually, that's what I would picture 296 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:06.799 in my head for sure. 297 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:08.240 So he did not have that. 298 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.039 And from his accent, Millan figured he was Swedish or 299 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.240 from another Scandinavian region, so not local to the area 300 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:16.679 at all. 301 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.360 So where the heck did this guy come from? 302 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.519 Well, we don't know, but we're gonna carry on and 303 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:23.360 see what happened. 304 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:24.279 Let's see. 305 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:29.200 So Millan asked Johnson, you know, have your how he 306 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.440 arrived at Fort McPherson, and Johnson said he arrived via 307 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:38.559 the Mackenzie River. That's not true or not what Millan 308 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.559 was told by Bill Douglas at the trading post. He 309 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:41.600 came down the Peel River. 310 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.960 Oh so this guy is already shady now. 311 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.840 Like Millan, he's got his wits about him. He's a 312 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.799 very common sense driven guy. He knows that like these 313 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.039 rivers are fairly close together, could be that they were 314 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:56.639 mistaken for one another, something like that. 315 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.000 So he's kind of note to self. But it's not 316 00:12:59.039 --> 00:12:59.879 like a giant red. 317 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:01.159 Flag giving him the benefit of. 318 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:02.159 The doubt exactly. 319 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.840 And also, trappers were known to lie about where they're going, 320 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.799 very secretive, right, they don't want people coming in the 321 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.200 trapping area or knowing if they're in like good trapping 322 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.879 country or something. And to this day you talk to 323 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:14.879 like a fisherman. 324 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.480 Or a hunters, they're kind of still like that. 325 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.919 Very secretive. I'm a hunter, I know a lot of hunters. 326 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:22.080 I know family members who are hunters. They're very secretive, 327 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.440 even though they're still close with me. So it's it's 328 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.759 not uncommon for people to lie about. 329 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:27.440 That sort of stuff either. 330 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:28.639 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 331 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.480 So even if he was lying, it's not like it's 332 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:37.639 again a red flag. So anyways, Johnson would need a 333 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:38.559 trapping license though. 334 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.600 Okay, they even had licenses and stuff back in the day. 335 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.480 Okay, so Officer Millan offers, he's like, you know, you're 336 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.080 if you're going to be trapping or anything, you need 337 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.759 a trapping license. I can get one for you, like 338 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.639 right here, I can write one up. You're good to 339 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.960 go then, And he also said that I recommend you 340 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.919 hire a guide to go up the rat with you 341 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.240 because of the dangerous conditions the rapids and all that 342 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:02.720 sort of thing. 343 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.960 Someone that knows where the rapids are exactly you're going 344 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.200 to go up the rat, you're gonna might drowned. 345 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:09.799 You might want a guide who can like take you 346 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.080 through the rapits properly, no one to portage whatever it 347 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:17.519 might be. But at this suggestion, Johnson got visibly upset 348 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.399 and he's like, no, I like to be alone. 349 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.679 Just shut down. He was getting angry and. 350 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:24.679 This guy is just trying to help him. He seems 351 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:25.639 like he's being really nice. 352 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.679 Oh just wait. He even said, I don't know if 353 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:29.519 this is a direct quote. 354 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:32.039 It was in quotations from the site I've picked it 355 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:33.720 up on, but I don't know if it's a specific 356 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:36.679 quote or they were just kind of writing dialogue for it. Okay, 357 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.600 but he said that police caused trouble for him. 358 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.279 That's what he said to the police officer. Yeah. Oh interesting. 359 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.320 Yeah, he's like, please cause trouble for me. He's like, 360 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:46.840 leave me alone. 361 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.279 He doesn't like them just putting it right out there. 362 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:49.759 Yeah. 363 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.120 So at that point Milane was like okay, he shrugged 364 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.000 it off and just kind of left Johnson alone and 365 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:54.600 walked away. 366 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:57.600 So, and that was in the summer. 367 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.120 Of nineteen thirty seven. So alert Johnson takes off in 368 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.360 his canoe. Don't really hear of him for a while 369 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:09.480 until the winter. So winter came around, the local gwitchen 370 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.879 reported a man, of course, it's it's Albert Johnson was 371 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.320 sabotaging their traps. Oh in the Rat River. 372 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.120 Someone else sabotaging someone else's traps. 373 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:20.720 Yeah, which is like a big old no no. 374 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.320 Yeah, what the heck? Back off, buddy. 375 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.559 So he failed to pass these Rat River rapids and 376 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.480 set up at the mouth of the Rat River Canyon. 377 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.879 You know, he was flinging the trap the traps into 378 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:32.639 the trees and sometimes on reports, even replacing him with 379 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.639 his own. So he doesn't have a trapping license. He's 380 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.639 messing with other people's traps and he's just causing all 381 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:39.320 sorts of trouble. 382 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:40.759 He sounds kind of like an asshole. 383 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.480 He sounds even more like an asshole when the Gwitchen 384 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:45.639 tried to approach him about it. 385 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:51.080 Okay, he threatened him with a rifle. What yeah, He's like, fuck, oh, buddy, 386 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:51.679 get out of here. 387 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.679 This guy needs to just go back wherever he came from. 388 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:54.960 Right. 389 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.279 So the RCMP's like, yeah, okay, we need to take 390 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.440 this report series. So like, this dude's caused some shita. 391 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:06.360 So they dispatched two constables, Second Constable A. W. King 392 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:10.240 and Which and Special Constable Joe Bernard. There's a fair 393 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.000 bit of names in this, different constables and stuff. I'm 394 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.399 terrible with names, so I'm going to do my best 395 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.480 to keep track of these people. At times, there's like 396 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.639 ten people. I just like there's a bunch of them. 397 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.120 Oh yeah, and I will probably not be able to 398 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:25.840 help you, so good luck, I know. 399 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.879 So it was Boxing day when they set out via 400 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.840 dog sled to go talk to Albert Johnson. 401 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:35.039 Okay, that's fun. 402 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.720 They want to keep this civil, you know, just be like, hey, dude, 403 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.399 like stop being a dick. If you're going to be trapping, 404 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.639 you need your trapping license, all this sort of stories. 405 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.080 Want a dog sled. So I'm just going to put 406 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:44.519 that out there. 407 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.399 Well, they were doing this in like minus forty degree temperature, Okay. 408 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.399 And you can't want that. Then I take it back. 409 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.120 But they knew this area well though, so even though 410 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.279 it was like super cold, it was winter, all that 411 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:55.759 sort of stuff, they knew where. 412 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.960 They were headed and it was known as Destruction City. 413 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.200 Destruction City is at the mouth of the Rat River 414 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.839 Canyon before the Rat River Rapids, and it's called Destruction 415 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.920 City because during the Yukon Gold Rush, hundreds of prospectors ship. 416 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:09.839 Wrecked at the rapids. 417 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.440 They couldn't make it through and they wintered there and 418 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:13.480 died of scurvy. 419 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:15.480 Oh my, that's so awful. 420 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.200 Again, Millen knew this whitch and tribe knew this. All 421 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.400 the locals knew this and tried to, you know, tell 422 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.799 Albert Johnson, you should get a guide, help you do 423 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.759 the rabbits want this happen, And of course he turned 424 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:29.319 his nose away, and it happened. 425 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:30.200 He couldn't make it through. 426 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.599 Surprise surprise, right, should listen to your locals. They know 427 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.039 their shit, they know what they're doing. So three days 428 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:40.720 later they rounded the bend on the ice of the 429 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.920 Rat River and spotted the cabin that Johnson had built. 430 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.359 So Bernards stayed down with the dogs as King approached. 431 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.400 I'm just referring by last names now, just you know. 432 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.559 So King approached the cabin and they noted that like 433 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.119 snow smoke was billowing from the stovepipe, like someone was 434 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:01.480 clearly home, or so they figured most likely. Anyways, smoke 435 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:03.799 was billowing, and a set of snow shoes were set 436 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.279 by the front door. The cabin was handmade of logs. 437 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.680 It's roughly estimated to be about eight foot by ten 438 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.480 feet wide, and the roof was made with like, you know, 439 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.279 like log beams, and then saw thrown on top which 440 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:18.200 was frozen solid. 441 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:18.799 You know it's winter. 442 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.519 Now, that's so impressive to me that someone can just 443 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:23.519 like build that alone. 444 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:24.799 Right, and only in like a few months. 445 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.640 Like, wow, this guy seems really I don't know he's 446 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.039 got it. He just seems like he's a good outdoors person. 447 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:31.839 Well, there was something weird about the cabin. It didn't 448 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:36.119 stand very tall. So King figured that it looked like 449 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.240 the cabin was like sunk into the gravel bed like 450 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.960 a good like three feet, So he would have like 451 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:43.680 dug down three feet in the gravel bed on the 452 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.440 side of a river before he built. 453 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:45.839 His cabin up. 454 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.839 Interesting, which is a little odd. 455 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.400 Well, I mean he's already odd. 456 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:51.240 Yeah. 457 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.720 So King knocked at the door and there was no reply. 458 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.480 You know, he's kind of waiting and he's like, hello, Albert. 459 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.920 You know, RCMP was making sure everything's okay, and we 460 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:02.559 heard of the incident blah blah. So no reply, and 461 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.680 King peered in through a small frosted window and immediately 462 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:08.519 from the inside the window was covered up. So someone 463 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:09.759 is inside someone's home. 464 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.160 Oh, like he could see in and then all of 465 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:16.279 a sudden it got covered up. Yes, Oh that's awkward, right, 466 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.400 So I was awkward when someone came to my house. 467 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.079 I mean, generally you are even. 468 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:24.039 If someone answers the phone, you're like, sh don't answer it. 469 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:26.079 I don't want to talk to anybody. I think it's 470 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:27.039 just like people nowadays. 471 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:27.799 Oh that is fun. 472 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.440 But he covered up the window. He's definitely home. So 473 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:34.920 King was like, pissed. He's going to now have to 474 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.319 go back all this distance that he traveled to get 475 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.160 a search warrant and back to the side of the cabin, 476 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:44.400 which is going to be approximately one hundred and sixty miles. 477 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:47.680 Oh my goodness, just because his asshole doesn't open the door, right. 478 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:49.319 So King was pissed. 479 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:51.960 I would be too, Yeah. 480 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.400 So Inspector Eames, in charge of the RCMP dispat District, 481 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:59.000 gave the warrant and sent Constable R. G. McDowell and 482 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.680 Special Constable Lazarus sit A Chewless. I'm going to refer 483 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:05.960 to him as Lazarus because sit of Chewless is really 484 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:10.079 hard for me to remember and pronounce, sent them along 485 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.839 with them. So they went back to Clavic, got these 486 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:13.200 people and. 487 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.880 They're heading back to the site. 488 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.559 So mid morning on December thirty first, they once again 489 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.160 came up on the cabin. Bernard again stayed behind with 490 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:25.240 the dogs. Lazarus went around back as King approached with 491 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:29.039 McDowell as his cover. So you got Lazarus going around 492 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.640 back the cabin, King heading to the front door, McDowell 493 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:32.200 covering him. 494 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:33.480 In case he runs or something. 495 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.519 Yeah, and you got Bernard down at the river with. 496 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:38.960 The sleds Okay, whole team. 497 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:39.599 The whole team. 498 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.920 They got four of them and one dude hunked down 499 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:42.400 in the cabin. 500 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:43.440 Maybe if he's home. 501 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.599 So King called out, are you there, mister Johnson? And 502 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.960 he thought he heard a noisseman inside to indicate like 503 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:54.119 someone's in there, right, So he knocked in the door 504 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:55.599 and there's no answer. 505 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.200 So King goes, you know, we have. 506 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:03.839 A warrant, you know, open up RCMP. So he begins, 507 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:05.279 He's like, I'm not going to go back. 508 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:06.400 You have no answer. 509 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:07.759 I'm pretty sure there's someone in there. We have a 510 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:10.319 search ward he starts kind of like shouldering door trying to. 511 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.079 Like budget open. He's like kind of body checking it right. 512 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.720 Shoulders at once, you know, it's not really moving. His 513 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.160 shoulders again didn't move. Then all of a sudden, bang 514 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.640 there was a shot through the door and King was shot. 515 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:22.960 In the chest. 516 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.759 What yeah, Kings shot in the chest. King so King 517 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.039 fell backwards. He was shot in the chest and a 518 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.119 gunfight began to ensue. King King managed to stand to 519 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.599 his feet and stumble to a nearby little bit of 520 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.559 willows and fell down and began crawling down the bank 521 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.720 of the river. Because what had happened was there's gun holes. 522 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.799 There's holes drilled in all four corners of the cabin 523 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:53.079 where Albert Johnson could stick his rifle out and shoot. 524 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.359 So now the gunfight was ensuing through these holes. 525 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.000 To McDowell and Lazarus. 526 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:01.960 Holy, this guy has planned it out. Okay, yah, yeah, 527 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.240 this King I gonna live. 528 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.640 Well, we'll get there. So King crawled back down to 529 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.039 the river bank. Lazarus and McDowell as well made it down. 530 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:12.839 King was bandaged. 531 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.079 He was bundled up and strapped to the dog sled, 532 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:17.920 and they rushed him back to the hospital. But remember 533 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.400 this is not like. 534 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.519 It takes the three days to get there rightly. 535 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:24.680 So day and night they traveled, and they made it 536 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.920 back in twenty four hours, half the normal time. 537 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:28.799 Wow. 538 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.480 They were like they were described. 539 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.359 As like their thighs were like ice cold, like freezing 540 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.200 and numb. And they carried him in. 541 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:38.039 But also these poor dogs that's where my mind went right. 542 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:40.720 They were okay, they were like dead tired. 543 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:41.400 Yeah, dead tired. 544 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:42.640 They deserved a good meal. 545 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:47.000 So the bullet just missed his heart by an inch. 546 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:50.119 Wow, so he's lucky. 547 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.119 Yes, King managed to survive. 548 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.400 Oh, thank goodness. But then they just left this crazy 549 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:56.200 mofo out there. 550 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:57.279 What else are they gonna do? 551 00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:59.400 I guess he's obviously nuts. 552 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.599 So they managed to make it back. Kings barely made 553 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.640 it with his life. He almost got shot in the heart. 554 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.799 Inspector emes At a Clavic learns of this and quickly 555 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:12.039 makes a team. 556 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:12.279 To go back. 557 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.880 Quickly establishes like, okay, we need to get some guys 558 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.240 out here, because now we have we want. 559 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.279 We have a wanted man. Now, not just like. 560 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.279 A well he injured a freaking narci. 561 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.039 Yeah, he shot an rcmpof s. Yeah, it's no longer 562 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:24.839 just like a tough. 563 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:25.839 Between a couple of traps now. 564 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:26.839 Yeah. 565 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:33.039 So the team was Inspector Eames McDowell, Lazarus Bernard, and 566 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.839 they'd also brought three trappers along with them, three local 567 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.640 trappers who are you know, really good shots and they 568 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.680 really know the area. And they also brought them because 569 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:46.039 they thought maybe Albert would have an easier time surrender, 570 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.559 surrendering to trappers, just like he's a trapper, more relatable people. 571 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.319 Right, Oh my goodness, But I feel like these trappers 572 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:54.559 wouldn't have had to go. I wouldn't want to go. 573 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:56.799 I would not be volunteering for that. 574 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.160 They went along and Millan also joined in as well. 575 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.519 So there's the five of them plus the three trappers, 576 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:03.160 so there's eight. 577 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:04.960 But King is in the hospital. 578 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.079 Oh yeah, kings. King's out of the story now, okay. 579 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.519 I have a feeling that that's probably lucky for him. 580 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.119 Probably. 581 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:15.559 So they settled for the cabin, armed with the guns 582 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:17.359 as well as dynamite. 583 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:18.480 Oh okay. 584 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:21.000 So they arrived and they set up on both sides 585 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.880 of the cabin and they waited. 586 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.000 He knows they're there, guaranteed. 587 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:26.960 Well. 588 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.119 After waiting, eventually they heard some clanging of what they 589 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.599 think were dishes inside. So, okay, clearly he's in the cabin. 590 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.599 Because they weren't sure if he's in there, maybe he 591 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:37.680 could be out on doing some trap and stuff. He 592 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.279 knows Robin went out in the bush. 593 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:40.240 Maybe I'm not sure. 594 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:41.000 I doubt that. 595 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:41.839 I doubt it. 596 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.519 May do that in the comfort of your home. 597 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:44.559 Probably a little warmer. 598 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:50.039 So after hearing the utensils and dishes clanging, Eames calls out, Johnson, 599 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.079 this is the RCMP. 600 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:52.079 Come out. 601 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.440 There's no serious charge against you. The man you shot 602 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:56.200 isn't dead. 603 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.240 There's still serious charge against. 604 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.519 Well, like not serious. 605 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.960 He didn't kill kill someone. I guess you know, it's. 606 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.440 Not a murder charge. So he's trying to lure him out. 607 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.720 He's trying to like, you know, it's a bargaining situation 608 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:09.279 sort of thing. 609 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:10.880 So there's no response. 610 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:16.519 It was quiet, even though they clearly know he's in there. 611 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.759 But oh yeah, and after a while, all of a sudden, 612 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:25.480 gunfire from the cabin again again, So gunfight ensues. So 613 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.359 two men actually managed to make it up to the 614 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.000 door during this gunfight, and they start trying to smash 615 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:30.839 in the door. 616 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.440 Because he's he's not shooting, but he is shooting at 617 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.519 the door at the door too though, right, Well, so 618 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:36.359 they're brave. 619 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.279 Because they've got eight guys surrounding the cabin, right and 620 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.839 he's shooting out through these little tiny holes in each corner, 621 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.759 so he can't really see very well, so you can't 622 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.039 really see these guys coming up there. 623 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.000 And they know where the holes are now and stuff. 624 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.880 So okay, okay, So they try to start breaking down 625 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:52.839 the door, and they get the door about half broken 626 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.440 down by the time they are drove off by gunfire 627 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.160 through the door. Now inside, they said, when they were 628 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.519 smashing this door, they saw that it was double walled. 629 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.920 It was like reinforced inside. So you have your outside 630 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.759 log wall and there was an inside log wall as well. 631 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.000 Interesting, I'm so intrigued to here what the inside looks like. 632 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:13.759 Oh, it was like fortified. 633 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.519 So the shooting continued for a long while. 634 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.720 And it was basically a standoff. 635 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.039 They couldn't get Albert to come out or anything, and 636 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.319 they're not going anywhere, so it's just shooting back and forth, 637 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.039 back and forth. 638 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:28.319 They set up a fire down by. 639 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:31.279 The river, and they decided, you know, we need to 640 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:34.200 do something. We've got this dynamite here, let's thaw it out. 641 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:35.000 So they won't. They don't. 642 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.440 It's not a dangerous situation. Really, They're they're thawing it 643 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:38.200 out by the fire. 644 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.359 They're not lighting it on fire. 645 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.880 I just want to make note of that because it 646 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.759 sounds dangerous thawing dynamite out by a fire. 647 00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:44.920 But it's good. 648 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.519 I feel like anything involving dynamite is. 649 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.519 Dangerous, but well, what happens next is a little dangerous 650 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.400 for sure. They decide that they're gonna throw a stick 651 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.480 of dynamite at the door of the cabin and try 652 00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:58.200 and blow it open. 653 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.279 Well, yeah, that point, you're going to do that. 654 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:05.400 Unfortunately, the first one fails that no one was injured, 655 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.160 Like mid are it blew up before it hit the 656 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.440 door sort of thing, right, So they continue to use 657 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.519 dynamite and try and get this door blown open, and 658 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:17.759 they kind of get the. 659 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.119 Door blown open, there's still it's just not working. 660 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.920 So all the cabin is so reinforced that the dynamite 661 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:25.240 isn't doing a lot of damage. 662 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:26.640 This guy knows what he was doing. 663 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.519 Hey, oh definitely he's a. 664 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:32.640 Serious plan in action right now, I feel like, so. 665 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.279 Continuing this gunfight and some dynamite at three am in 666 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.279 the dark, because you know, they've been doing this all 667 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.319 day now and into the night, Eames and another man 668 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.599 rushed the cabin in the dark, and when they reached 669 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.759 the door, because the door is like mostly broken open 670 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.240 now right at the door, they turned on the flashlight 671 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.160 to try and like surprise, him blind them. Immediately as 672 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.559 the light was turned on, the flashlight was shot out 673 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.599 of his hand immediately. 674 00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.000 Holy, who is this guy? 675 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.319 This guy is like an excellent marksman. He's building a 676 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.440 freaking bunker and he's holding off the RCMP like no tomorrow. 677 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.319 Yeah, this is insane. 678 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:09.839 So that failed. 679 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.799 Now, the temperature that they're they're dealing with is approximately 680 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.279 fifty below zero. These guys are dealing with frostbite on 681 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.799 their face, their fingers, they're tired, they're freezing. 682 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.279 Of course they're dogs as well. 683 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.720 Oh no, so they had to go back to a 684 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.079 clavic again and restrategize. 685 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.400 This is insane. 686 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.880 It gets brutal, trust me. We're just ramping up here. 687 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.799 Okay, Well, I already feel like this is a bit much. 688 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.200 The sky is like nuts. 689 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:43.039 He's the mad Trapper of Rat River. And actually funny 690 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.559 that we're onto that topic right now, because around this time, 691 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.440 the radio and news sources began picking up the story. 692 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.799 And it's like mostly like amateur radio stations and stuff 693 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.039 at the time, like nothing big, but word was starting 694 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.559 to get out of the situation and it was getting 695 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.480 across like all across North America. It wasn't just the 696 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.359 local area, and now it was like a lot of 697 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.559 people knew about the story, and media dubbed him at 698 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.000 this time the Mad Trapper of Rat River. So that's 699 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.519 where he got his name, is from the media. 700 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.359 Okay, that media, Yeah, yeah, they. 701 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.880 Do it every time. They got to get the nicknames 702 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.079 in there. 703 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.119 I think I'm picturing this to be happening way earlier time, 704 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.000 like eighteen hundreds or something, because I'm like, oh, they 705 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:23.319 have radio, I think you might be one. Imagination is 706 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.119 just like, okay, I'll call him down. 707 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.039 I mean, let your imagination go, that's for sure. But 708 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.720 they definitely did have radios. 709 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.480 So Eames and his crew arrived on January seventeenth and 710 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.839 set up base camp at the mouth of Rat River. 711 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.240 So they've already gone to Klavic and they're now back 712 00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.400 on the Rat River Canyon to try and take him 713 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.079 on once more. However, this time the cabin was abandoned. 714 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.480 Oh so they got to look at the bunker or 715 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:51.400 the cabin, which everyone you want to call it. 716 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.079 I mean, it's so smart actually that it's a band 717 00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:55.119 and of course they'd come back. 718 00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:00.400 Yeah, So inside the cabin there was bunkers dugout just 719 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.119 big enough for Albert to sit in in the gravel 720 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.240 in the ground, and they're aligned with spruce boughs. There 721 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.240 was a fire designed on the back wall, designed perfectly 722 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.680 to reflect the heat right back into these little bunkers. 723 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.599 Very well thought out. 724 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.880 He's smart, he is. 725 00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.480 There was no signs of trapping activity. The only thing 726 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.599 they really found in there was like, of course, gunshells 727 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.599 and some like half eaten like elk scraps of like 728 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:27.400 meat and. 729 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:27.880 Things like that. 730 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:29.839 So there wasn't really much to find in there. But 731 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:30.640 they did find that. 732 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.880 You know, it's double walled. It's not a cabin. 733 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.119 It's basically a military bunker that this guy built. 734 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.240 I was expecting it to be a little bit more 735 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.000 exciting in there, but okay, I'll take it. 736 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.039 So they knew he couldn't have gone far because of 737 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.240 the weather and in all this there was a recent 738 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.440 blizzard and they knew he was on foot. So he's 739 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.079 in this canyon minus fifty degrees. He can't be going 740 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.920 that far even if he has days on them. So 741 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.759 they combed the Rat River Canyon for four different days 742 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.039 trying to find him, and due to supply issues with 743 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.319 all the men that he has Eames decides that he's 744 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.920 going to send most of people back, himself included, and 745 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.920 he's going to keep a couple of guys there to 746 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:17.680 keep searching. So he took Millen to stay and his 747 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.599 three best shots, which were Carl Gunland, Noel Verville. Those 748 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.559 guys are both trappers and an army sergeant Frank Riddle 749 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.759 or Riddelldell. 750 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.200 Yes, so those four stayed. 751 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.680 And when I say like best shots, I mean like 752 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:37.759 with a rifle, like good aim, good accuracy. Yeah, so 753 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:39.880 he's not he's not making it very far. That's why 754 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.480 these guys are staying to track him. Hopefully they can 755 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.759 get a trail because he like, he can't use his 756 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.559 rifle he's got he's all his food that he's carrying 757 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.519 is in his bag. He can't hunt because if he 758 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.279 uses his rifle, he'll be given away. 759 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.920 Right well, yain even to set a fire, right fire. 760 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:58.960 Smoke's gonna give you away. The flame at Knight's going 761 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.680 to give you away. So he's got. 762 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.039 A heavy backpack. He can't really do much. 763 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:06.319 He's going to be given away. 764 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.880 They estimated that because of the conditions and everything, he's 765 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.200 gonna need to intake about three to four times the 766 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:17.400 normal calories because he's essentially running a marathon every day 767 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.599 as far as he's traveling and going through the snow 768 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.359 and the weight. 769 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.200 He's packing, right, and even just like the coldness and 770 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.759 having to keep your body warm would burn calories. 771 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.359 I feel like all the conditions and everything. Yeah, so 772 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:32.880 hold on, where am I here? 773 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:33.640 Okay? 774 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.200 So they tracked Johnson the best of their ability, picking 775 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.640 up his trail occasionally, and they he did his best 776 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.640 to hide tracks, walking on like frozen ice, frozen spots 777 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:45.240 of the snow. So there's even at points he wore 778 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.440 his snow shoes backwards to try and send them in 779 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:48.160 the wrong direction. 780 00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:52.279 Really, yes, yes, okay, I think that's genius. 781 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.559 And they could tell that he was headed for Alaska 782 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.920 across the Great Divide, so he's headed west. On Jane 783 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.519 twenty eighth, Riddell found an old trail and spotted a 784 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.880 light off in the distance after he followed it. Now 785 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.359 this is at night, so he can kind of clamb 786 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:10.680 up on. 787 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.759 This ridge and get a look. 788 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.720 And Riddell goes back and get Verville, and they see 789 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.160 this man tending a fire. 790 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.519 He's not very far away, only like. 791 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.240 I think it was like sixty yards or something like that. 792 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.279 The city was and he actually is lighting a fire. 793 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:27.559 Yeah, and he didn't know they were there, but they 794 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.720 didn't they didn't do anything about it. They were contemplating 795 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.160 taking a shop. But these two guys are trappers, they're 796 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.160 not RCMP officers, so they don't want to get charged 797 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:35.880 with manslaughter. 798 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.880 Yeah, but isn't that what they're there for. 799 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:39.519 Well, they don't even know if it's the right guy. 800 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.160 Oh okay, okay, that's smart, then that's good. 801 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.000 So they go back and get Constable Milling. And the 802 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.240 next morning, all four men they peer over the same 803 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.519 ridge and no person's in sight, but the camp is 804 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.799 still there. They approached the camp and Johnson was immediately 805 00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.839 seen diving into a trench, a snow trench that he 806 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.160 had dug out. So this guy is already ready, he's 807 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:01.799 on the ball. 808 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:03.720 He probably knew they were there. 809 00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:08.360 Then maybe, or he's just that prepared every time, I guess. So, 810 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.719 of course, gunfight ensues, shots are being fired. Milan even 811 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:18.280 called out to Albert Johnson to give up, and then 812 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.679 two hours of silence, two hours of them waiting for 813 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:22.440 Albert to give. 814 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:23.239 Up or say something. 815 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:23.679 Trench. 816 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.199 Yeah, So there's a couple fires or a couple gun 817 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.039 shots back and forth. He's like, give up in silence, 818 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.719 maybe little map maybe. So after two hours, finally they 819 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.480 decide to move in and more shooting begins, and unfortunately, 820 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.320 the two trappers see Millan fall face forward into the snow. 821 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.599 Oh no, they managed to. 822 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.199 Crawl up behind him, tie his boots together and drag 823 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.519 him back. And there's reports, not that I've seen any 824 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:55.960 facts on it, but there's some people claiming that at 825 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.320 this time they heard Johnson laughing. 826 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.760 Ah, but they turned him over and yes. 827 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.159 Johnson, sorry, Officer Millan was unfortunately dead. 828 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.719 Okay. Was he the only RCMP there because the other 829 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.800 one was army and the two are trappers? 830 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:11.039 Yes? 831 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.079 Sorry, So there's there's a Constable Millin, two trappers and 832 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:16.719 the army sergeant Greig. 833 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.559 This guy is a piece. I'm getting angry now. 834 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.639 So they inspected his rifle and they found that a 835 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.760 screw caused a misfire in his gun, giving Albert Johnson 836 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.000 the moment he needed to shoot Officer Milan. 837 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.800 Unfortunately, as it was his gun that did it. 838 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.920 Yeah, So the three remaining men took care of ensuring 839 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.920 that animals couldn't get to Officer Millan and everything like that, 840 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:45.119 and Riddell after that they made sure or sorry, Riddell 841 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.320 went back to a clavic to get Eames. So he's 842 00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.400 the two guys are staying there and Riddell goes back 843 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.320 and on February fourth, Emes and ten others. This is 844 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.920 where I start not talking about names because there's too 845 00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.079 many people to keep trying. 846 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:00.280 This is a man hunt. 847 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.320 Oh it's it's a man hunt and a half. And 848 00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:07.159 remember this started on was it Boxing day? So we're 849 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.880 now into February fourth? 850 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:09.880 Oh wow? 851 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:11.119 Just as over a month now. 852 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.079 Yeah, So ten others arrived on the scene, and unfortunately 853 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.800 Johnson escaped during one night silently. 854 00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.000 They didn't know he left, and he left. 855 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:24.559 No tracks except to come over and look at Officer 856 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:25.280 Milan's body. 857 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.559 Seriously, yes, and then he left and that pissed me off, 858 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.039 like really, just oh okay, that's nice of him. 859 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.599 Three more days they were eluded by Johnson as he 860 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.480 cleverly hit his tracks constantly, you know, making sure he's 861 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.000 on and off his snow shoes, back tracking snow shoes 862 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.800 on backwards, walking on icy patches, doing what he can 863 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.280 to hide he's zig zagging everywhere. He's out running dog 864 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:59.440 sleds on his or by foot, and he's backtracking, going 865 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.239 in circle, all this sort of stuff, and he's out 866 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:02.199 running dogs lives. 867 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.119 Exactly hiding here. This is so intriguing. 868 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:08.800 So by this time there was a pilot, Captain C. W. May, 869 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.519 who served in World War One and actually even fought 870 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:17.199 against the infamous Red Baron. He solved their reoccurring supply 871 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.679 issue because again Eames is going to have to take 872 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.199 guys off because they're running out of food, especially for 873 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:23.000 the dogs. 874 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.239 Even food supplies. 875 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.559 So this pilot manages to bring those supplies and can 876 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.519 go back and forth and get supplies as needed. So 877 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.280 now they don't have to abandon and rejoin. It's just 878 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.280 a solid man hunt. 879 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:34.079 Now good. 880 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.360 And by this time he goes up in the air 881 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.119 and he kind of sees where Johnson's been heading, and 882 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.079 they realize he's going to cross the Great Divide? 883 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:48.639 Do you know what the Great Divide is? 884 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.480 But I actually don't. I was going to ask when 885 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.079 I was like, did you already say what it was? 886 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.239 And I forgot, So a continental divide is what it is. 887 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.239 Great Divide is like its nickname it's a large drainage 888 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.719 divide on a continent where one side of the mountains 889 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.199 drain off into one ocean and the other side of 890 00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.199 the mountains drain off into another. So it's that big 891 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.840 that it actually divides the drainage of the continent. 892 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:09.800 Interesting. 893 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:14.000 And so this runs right down Canada into the States 894 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.039 from the yukon the mountain in the Rockies, right, Okay, 895 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.840 So he's crossing that rocky range in the middle of winter, 896 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.039 so low by foot in minus forty to fifty weather, 897 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.760 in blizzards and snow. It's an impossible task. The local 898 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.719 witches are even saying there's no way a man can 899 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:33.639 make that alone. 900 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:34.559 It's impossible. 901 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.599 The fact that he's still even alive, I feel like 902 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:37.719 is a miracle. 903 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:38.920 Yeah, it is. 904 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.639 So. February thirteenth, Captain May led a recon flight where 905 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.440 they found his tracks where he that's right, he found 906 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.519 his tracks where he joined tracks of a caribou herd on. 907 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.880 The other side of the divide. He made it across. 908 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.039 He did it. 909 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:55.840 He did it. 910 00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.639 So by February fifteenth, the crew made it to the 911 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.719 other side the divide, and they are four days now 912 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.840 estimated behind Johnson, Oh right, and like I said, by foot, 913 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.639 they've got a plane. These guys have dog sleds and 914 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:11.679 he's four days ahead. 915 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:12.760 I can't believe this. 916 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.920 Oh, it's it gets crazier. 917 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.400 Luckily, there was an old trapper on the other side 918 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.280 of the mountain in a local area there by the 919 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.760 name of Frank Johnson that showed them a pretage route 920 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.400 that helped them gain on Johnson, and by February sixteenth 921 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.920 they found his trail where he left the caribou herd 922 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.760 tracks and they estimated that they were no more than 923 00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:41.079 thirty six hours old, so they have gained significant Yeah. 924 00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.480 And at this time another another individual joined the hunt, 925 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.800 Major Earl Hershey, among other people. So he was a 926 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.880 bit of a significant individual in this in this role. Okay, 927 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.840 So noon the following day after finding his trail, Sorr, 928 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.039 I'm like just going off information here, but there's so 929 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:00.440 much to. 930 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.039 This I know well, and I'm just so I'm very engaged. 931 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:08.199 Soon noon the following day, after finding his trail, they're 932 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.440 going down the Frozen Eagle River when Hersey, I think 933 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.360 that's how you say his name, Hersey. He turns a 934 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:20.039 bend and he sees Albert. Unfortunately, Albert sees him too. 935 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.000 Oh dagn for whatever reason, he. 936 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.000 Was walking towards him. 937 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.760 He was backtracking, most likely to confuse their trail again. 938 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.639 So oh okay, so he had probably has no idea 939 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:33.119 how much they gained on him. Yeah, he thinks they're still. 940 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.679 Way back, so face to face around this bend, I 941 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.280 mean they're they're a little bit of ways, They're not 942 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.199 like nose right. 943 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:39.719 Yeah. 944 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.320 So it was a mad scramble and they're in the 945 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.119 middle of a river, steep river banks and either side 946 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.599 of them. Hersey takes a knee and fires a shot 947 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.360 as well as another individual behind him takes a shot 948 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.599 as Johnson scrambles and tries to make it up one bank. 949 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:54.880 He couldn't make it up the bank. It was too steep, 950 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.039 and he's scrambling and they're shooting back and forth in 951 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:02.719 this and unfortunately, during this mad scramble, as he's coming 952 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:04.800 back down that bank headed to the overside the other 953 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.159 side of the river, Hersey gets shot from Albert as well. 954 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.119 What the frig I thought this Johnson guy was gonna 955 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.679 get shot for sure at this point, because they caught 956 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.079 him when he wasn't prepared. Finally, they did catch. 957 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.519 Him when he's not prepared. We'll see what happens. He 958 00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.079 tries to get up the other side of the river. 959 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.800 Again, it's too steep. He's stuck on the frozen river. 960 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.639 So he tries to run. But of course, by this time, 961 00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:30.039 the entire crew has caught up and he's got a 962 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.880 whole lack of people firing at him. Now, yeah, not 963 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:34.880 everyone's firing yet because they're STI trying to get him 964 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.079 to surrender. They're shouting at him, give up, give up. 965 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.360 As he's running away, they see him stumble a little bit, 966 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.440 and some reports stay. Some reports say they think he 967 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.679 got shot. Other reports say he was just throwing his 968 00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.840 backpack down, because he immediately turned around and took cover 969 00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:57.440 behind his backpack and started returning fire. So what happens next? 970 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.039 Clearly he's not giving up, he's returning fire. Everyone begins shooting. 971 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.039 Yeah, they have to get him at this point. 972 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:09.239 Then, So what happens? Shooting back and forth? 973 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.679 Shooting back and forth, because you know, Albert's not answering. 974 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.159 Again, he never answers. 975 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:18.960 They never heard a single peep from him, but they 976 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.320 could see him WinCE every time. 977 00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:20.800 A bullet hit. 978 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.079 Oh, I never made a noise, but they could see 979 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.679 him WinCE, they could see him move, they could see 980 00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:28.840 him flinch, but not a noise came. 981 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:29.239 Out of him. 982 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.599 Yeah, I feel like this guy's just a machine. 983 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.480 And ten minutes after noon when they ran into him 984 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.039 at noon, So ten minutes later, after this firefight, Albert 985 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:38.639 laid still. 986 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.239 Now they're thinking this might be. 987 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.599 A trick because he's definitely pulled tricks on them in 988 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:44.039 the past. 989 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.920 Yeah, but I also feel like, how bad are their shots? 990 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:48.440 He has to be done, Well. 991 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:49.960 You have an army sergeant, you have our CNP. 992 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.119 Like, he has to be done. 993 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.679 So they walk over to him and turn him over. 994 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.559 He is, in fact dead. Autopsy showed that he was 995 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.440 shot with five bullets and one of the bullets actually 996 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.039 severed his spine. 997 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.559 Which reallyz shot that killed him, I guess so. 998 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.000 And when they turned him over, he was a withered 999 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.760 shell of a man, scrawny, but he had this like 1000 00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.239 smirk on his face. 1001 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:13.639 Almost. 1002 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.559 I looked at the photo and I'm going to post 1003 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.840 like the drawing on our Instagram, and that drawing is 1004 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:21.920 from the photo taken when he's turnover. 1005 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.119 You saw the photo of him after he died. 1006 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.519 Yes, it's not gruesome whatsoever. I just don't want to 1007 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.480 post a photo of a dead guy on Instagram, so 1008 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:34.480 I'll post the drawing of it because it's like an 1009 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.400 infamous photo. But he doesn't look like he's smirking to me, 1010 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:40.800 but he's His teeth are definitely showing. 1011 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:42.000 He's burying his. 1012 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.639 Teeth for sure, But I don't know if it looks 1013 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:44.679 like a grin to me or not. 1014 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.440 But he's probably just like I don't, all hunkering down 1015 00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:50.840 like oh like yeah, yeah. 1016 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.199 So they estimate he traveled by foot approximately one hundred 1017 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.880 and fifty to two hundred and fifty kilometers over the 1018 00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.639 course of this man hunt. Ah, it was far more 1019 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:03.199 than third days and an average temperature of minus forty 1020 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.119 degrees celsius. 1021 00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.559 Maybe that's a good diet plan. Maybe that's what I 1022 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:07.199 need to get on. 1023 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.280 I mean, it would work. 1024 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.000 I don't know if I would say it's a good 1025 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.159 diet plan, but it's a diet. 1026 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.519 Plan, yeah, the New Age diet plan. 1027 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.599 And to this day, they still don't know who Albert 1028 00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:20.320 Johnson was. 1029 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:21.840 Are you kidding me? 1030 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.360 It's a mystery if that's even his name. 1031 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.719 Oh. I was just ready for the juice to come out. 1032 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.239 Of what this guy was up to. 1033 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.280 Several hundred people have Wroten written into the RCMP claiming 1034 00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:37.480 to know him. Some called him the Blueberry Kid, which 1035 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.599 is some criminal guy. I didn't research the Blueberry Kid 1036 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.920 at all, but others claimed him to be a murderer 1037 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.280 from the Michigan a World War One sniper, ex provincial policeman, 1038 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.800 a husband, father, brother son. 1039 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.320 A definitely a badass. 1040 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.679 Sorry for in No, Yeah, he's a badass for sure. 1041 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.840 Oh that reminds me. There was an article I came across. 1042 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.440 I'm going to see if I can find it again 1043 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:03.639 and put it down the notes below. 1044 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.039 It was like Badass of the Week or something like this, 1045 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.599 and someone wrote an article in this guy. 1046 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.320 Their description was hilarious of this events because they don't 1047 00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:11.719 hold back. 1048 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.760 They're cursing, it's wearing. 1049 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.800 This motherfucker did this and this god damn like it 1050 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.320 was just the way they wrote it hilarious. 1051 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:18.559 I highly recommend you check it out. 1052 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.239 Well, he seems like a machine like but. 1053 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:25.800 Just like the RCNP investigated, is meant like all these 1054 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.920 calls that they could they use fingerprints DNA run testing 1055 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.159 at the time, like it's not very advanced, but and 1056 00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:35.440 nothing came up from any of them. 1057 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:36.280 Wow. 1058 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.880 The most promising call or sorry lead they got called 1059 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.880 him Arthur Nelson from nineteen twenty five. He was from 1060 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.559 British Columbia and he went to the Yukon where he 1061 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.400 disappeared in nineteen thirty one. And it was only two 1062 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:56.199 months later where Albert Johnson appeared. There are other there's 1063 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.280 some other like deep theories out there. I didn't want 1064 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.440 to get into theory stuff on this, yeah, but still 1065 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.599 none of them came up with any concrete evidence. Then 1066 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.440 in two thousand and seven, they exumed Johnson's body from a. 1067 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.159 Clavic where he was buried. 1068 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.480 Interesting to run some DNA tests on these, you know, 1069 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.559 like Arthur Nelson. Yeah, it's not too long ago, and 1070 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.440 all DNA tests have ruled out all known potential matches, 1071 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.559 including this Arthur Nelson. So we still to this day 1072 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.159 have no fucking clue who Albert Johnson was really bad 1073 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:35.239 trapper of Rat River. 1074 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:44.199 Wow, that's amazing to me that he killed He only 1075 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.599 was a He only killed one person, all right, that 1076 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.840 other because wasn't there. He got shot, but he didn't die. 1077 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.800 He killed one other individual, so he shot. Now I 1078 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:56.719 can't remember names. 1079 00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:58.159 He shot the first. 1080 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.480 Individual through the chest through the door, who survived. Second 1081 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.719 individual was Millon, yeah. 1082 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:04.119 Passed away. 1083 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.559 And the third individual was Hersey who was shot and 1084 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.400 he actually just survived that The doctor said if they 1085 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.840 arrived minutes later, he would have passed. So they got 1086 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.880 him to the hospital literally just in time, Okay, thankfully 1087 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:17.320 via the plane. 1088 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.719 Oh yeah. I can't believe how many people that he 1089 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.599 had coming after him and he freaking got away, like 1090 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:27.480 for a long time. 1091 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.880 He didn't make a peep and he just didn't talk. 1092 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.519 He just kept going out running the dog sleds by 1093 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.199 foot and backtracking like it doesn't make sense. 1094 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.360 Like crazy, as like a mofo as this guy is, 1095 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.119 he actually is like a little bit admirable. 1096 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.840 Like you said, he's a badass. I'm not gonna say admirable. 1097 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:49.920 He can do some shit and he's a badass. 1098 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:53.599 Okay. Well, the fact that he can outrun that many 1099 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.719 people and is like so well in the outdoors and stuff, 1100 00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:58.840 I guess I just think that's like holy because I'm 1101 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.880 the furthest from that. They should be a movie of this. 1102 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.000 They should, I wonder if they have. I know there's 1103 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.840 books written about it. I know there's documentaries about it, 1104 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.760 but I don't know if there's a movie. I didn't 1105 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.000 come across anything like that. 1106 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:11.599 Well done you. 1107 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.920 To Hayden at work for putting me on this one. 1108 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:18.760 So that was a good, good one. 1109 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.599 Yeah, good job. I've never heard of it. That's all. 1110 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.880 Now you have there. 1111 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.320 You go again with your ones that don't have proper 1112 00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.159 outcomes for me. 1113 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:30.719 I like the mystery ones. 1114 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.840 I like to know when that's happened, where they are now. 1115 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:39.719 It's all like there is you know everything except you 1116 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:41.960 know when he appeared, and you know how he died, 1117 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:43.880 you know everything in between there. 1118 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:45.800 Yeah, but I want to know a bit more. 1119 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.199 Well, if you want to know a bit more, I 1120 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.079 recommend you research it. Because they they dove into it. 1121 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.239 They released everything that was in his pack and all 1122 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.360 this sort of stuff. It's just too much for me 1123 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:56.400 to really get into. 1124 00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:57.840 What's in his pack. Might be a little bit. 1125 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.519 I did actually take a screenshot on my cell phone, 1126 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.039 So if you really want to know what's in his 1127 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.400 backpack when he died, I can tell you. 1128 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.079 I just got to pull up the picture. 1129 00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.199 On my phone. You make some other like hopefully none 1130 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.800 of the dogs or anything died during this chase, because 1131 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.360 that would have been hard on them too. 1132 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:15.639 There was no report of it. 1133 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.920 I'm very so we have two huskies. I think we 1134 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.239 mentioned this before, so I'm all about this dog tape. 1135 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.119 Like one third of a dog team already. Okay, So 1136 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.880 what was in his pack? He had a razor, a comb, 1137 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:35.360 a mirror, needle, thread oil, rag fish hooks, wax matches, nails, acts, 1138 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:40.440 pocket compass, one hundred and nineteen shells, a knife made 1139 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.239 from an old tarping strap, a tarping spring sorry, all 1140 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.800 in neatly sewn moose hide case, five freshwater pearls, some 1141 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.119 gold dust, two tho four hundred and ten dollars in bills, 1142 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.360 and two pieces of gold bridgework that were not his own. 1143 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.079 So by bridgework like gold teeth. 1144 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:09.519 Oh interesting, huh okay, that I mean, I guess that's 1145 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.199 what I kind of expected to be in there. 1146 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.400 You expected him to have someone else's gold teeth in 1147 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:14.800 this bag. 1148 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.159 I don't know. Nothing in that pack surprised me overly. Well, 1149 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.840 we went through the information, so huh interesting. I guess 1150 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.199 now I know when I have to pack if I'm 1151 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:25.320 going out in the wilderness. 1152 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.280 This was one bad assitude. Or if I if I 1153 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.280 may one Wicked dude. 1154 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.360 Yeah, I mean yeah, he wasn't a good dude. 1155 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.119 All right, Well let's wrap this up. 1156 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.679 So you're doing next episode though, I am doing the 1157 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.320 next episode and I'm giving no hints because I don't 1158 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:42.599 know what it's going to be on yet. 1159 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.400 You gotta do your research, gotta hurry out. 1160 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.280 Yeah, And why I'm doing my research, I'm definitely gonna 1161 00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:50.199 dot down a bunch of cases that I'm interested into, 1162 00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:51.320 because I know there's lots. 1163 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.440 So if you guys have any in any cases you 1164 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.079 want to recommend us, hit us. Hit us up on 1165 00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.320 Instagram at Wicked and Grim. It's as simple as that. 1166 00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:59.800 Just give it a search. You'll find us and let 1167 00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:00.559 us know what you think. 1168 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:01.559 Perfect. 1169 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.480 Okay, you want to send us out here. 1170 00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:05.360 I'm ready. Okay, stay Wicked