Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of September
Speaker 1: twenty third, we're continuing with Lost, Season one, episode twelve,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, but so worst puns so far,
Speaker 1: House of the Rising Sun, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: I think the case is worse.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten what the title of the episode was,
Speaker 1: and I looked it up when it was over, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, come on, seriously, seriously, are you
Speaker 1: a professional entertainment product. What are you doing? Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that was.
Speaker 2: Mary silly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not supposed to be silly in
Speaker 1: that way. It's chilling way, not in a okay dad,
Speaker 1: very funny. Yeah, we start out with those crazy kids,
Speaker 1: Sawyer and Kate just having them a little frolic by
Speaker 1: a waterfalls around. She's got her thong on, she's good.
Speaker 2: Why did he not take his jeans off?
Speaker 1: My question?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe he was naked under there, I guess so.
Speaker 1: See, the thing is, Sawyer would not care if he
Speaker 1: was naked under there, would enjoy taking off his pants
Speaker 1: in front of her. Yes, absolutely, Babc not so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you could have, well they had. They did show
Speaker 1: them swimming around. So you're you're swimming around, you're having
Speaker 1: yourself a good time swimming in your underwear, and you
Speaker 1: see some dead bodies. Yeah, and like a normal person's
Speaker 1: reaction would be giving hell out. Oh, let's let's dive
Speaker 1: down right, let's check them out. How do you dive
Speaker 1: down like that? Because I float right? How it seemed
Speaker 1: like they were fairly deep to be just holding their
Speaker 1: breath and going down right.
Speaker 2: And opening their eyes all the time.
Speaker 1: Water did not look clean either no, but conveniently, what
Speaker 1: should happen to be there completely coincidentally in this place
Speaker 1: they just happened upon well.
Speaker 2: And also later in the episode, Kate is like, you know,
Speaker 2: the Marshall had this case and they made him check it,
Speaker 2: so then they find it under a seat.
Speaker 1: Yes, this does not work, and I don't understand except
Speaker 1: that it's the Island's magic. Yeah, don't ask questions, yep.
Speaker 1: I mean it could just have been loose somewhere nearby
Speaker 1: and not under the seat.
Speaker 2: Exactly like stowed neatly under the seat in front of you,
Speaker 2: as they say deliberately.
Speaker 1: So you know, what should have happened is they should
Speaker 1: finally have gotten it open and it turns out it's
Speaker 1: not the same case, right, somebody else's stuff you checked it.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense. O, golly, the whole thing was
Speaker 3: just the whole episode was just diminishing returns, the whole
Speaker 3: that particular plot.
Speaker 1: And I know, I know this show. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what the significance of the little toy plane turns out
Speaker 1: to be, but I know there's some significance, but not
Speaker 1: enough for that to have been her motivation immediately enough,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to wait for five seasons
Speaker 1: to find out what the toy was or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Sooner than that, I guess we find out
Speaker 1: and I can't remember now if it was satisfying or not.
Speaker 1: But it's too much weight to put on that when
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know for a while, right, trust us,
Speaker 1: it'll be important. It makes sense. We make sure we're
Speaker 1: new for right. Uh. Yeah, this whole this whole episode was.
Speaker 1: And also I felt so sorry for Evangeline Lily when
Speaker 1: she got her costume that day, right.
Speaker 2: Like, this is it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's a compliment that they think
Speaker 1: you're gonna look good in it. There's nobody's gonna put
Speaker 1: me in a thong on a camera, I can tell you.
Speaker 1: But still, man, was that thing skimpy and the camera
Speaker 1: found it a whole lot?
Speaker 2: Oh, of course absolutely.
Speaker 1: I do not get the whole thong thing anyway, just
Speaker 1: for a matter of comforted coverage, it seems to make
Speaker 1: no sense. But you know, in front of Sawyer, really
Speaker 1: would she.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she would have kept her pants on.
Speaker 1: So much of this of this episode was Sawyer and
Speaker 1: Jack trying to get the truth out of Kate. Tell
Speaker 1: me what's really there, stop lying. I'm not gonna open
Speaker 1: this give you this case until you tell me what's in.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, guys, just watch the flashbacks, just
Speaker 1: right down down.
Speaker 2: Oh, maxim in the flashbacks.
Speaker 1: Although of course it wasn't really because we didn't find
Speaker 1: out what the significance of the plane was except that
Speaker 1: it belonged to the man I killed, right and also loved,
Speaker 1: but especially killed. It's just like, all right, we know
Speaker 1: the structure now, Yeah, it's just you know, I know,
Speaker 1: you don't have have cable on the island, so it's
Speaker 1: a little difficult. But just was tiresome, I thought in
Speaker 1: this particular time, and that robbery was so unpleasant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for it to be just kind of a.
Speaker 2: Trick, right, so she could get a toy plane out
Speaker 2: of a safe deposit box, Like there has to be
Speaker 2: better ways to force a bank to open a safe
Speaker 2: deposit box. Yeah, yeah, you know, there's gotta be some.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it just it was it. I think is
Speaker 1: the first one of these flashback stories that makes no
Speaker 1: sense until a future flashback, right, we need more flashbacks
Speaker 1: to explain this. I think up until now they've been
Speaker 1: pretty here's something happening in the main story, and we
Speaker 1: are going to illustrate it with this flashback. And even
Speaker 1: if we don't actually see them getting on the plane,
Speaker 1: it's you know, sort of moves us in that direction.
Speaker 1: This was just like, huh, how about that? But you
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on there?
Speaker 2: I guess you're gonna have to keep watching.
Speaker 1: Yes, So have you ever heard of Halliburton? I guess
Speaker 1: is that an actual thing that exists in the real world.
Speaker 1: I heard of the unbreak innable suitcases because everybody knew, oh,
Speaker 1: she's trying to get into a Haliburton. I'm like, right, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard about it as.
Speaker 2: A as a company, but I thought it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know mercenary security cards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess maybe we have like a line
Speaker 1: of merch.
Speaker 2: Apparently they do. Yeah, But it was entertaining watching Jack
Speaker 2: or watching Sawyer try to try to get it open.
Speaker 1: I felt that Cage could maybe get it open by
Speaker 1: you know, hitting it against his skull, but no, she's
Speaker 1: she's a killer, but not a killer, right, And uh,
Speaker 1: you know they wanted to use the axe, but Boone,
Speaker 1: it's snuck it away so that they can try to
Speaker 1: open the hatch also by Haliburton apparently.
Speaker 2: But yeah, because we're struggling with that quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Keeping them busy, Yes, and everybody's got something to keep
Speaker 1: them busy. Shannon is when Boone said to her, she's useless,
Speaker 1: I said to my husband, but she can translate French,
Speaker 1: and right, look what happens. There's French to translate.
Speaker 2: Under the watchful eye of siyd.
Speaker 1: Yes, who can say no to that? That's right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she even gets to sing a little song at
Speaker 1: the end. So see, there's a place for everybody. And
Speaker 1: h I think, uh, I think parenting wise, we have
Speaker 1: been reunited with the island mom Rose. Yeah, remember Rose.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about her recently, like we have not
Speaker 2: seen her since about episode two, and I was just
Speaker 2: never happened to Rose.
Speaker 1: There she is sorting laundry somewhere, you know. El Scott
Speaker 1: Caldwell is the name of that actor. And they must
Speaker 1: have just had her on a contract that was like
Speaker 1: every now and then, come on down, we're gonna need
Speaker 1: to until such times we get enough seasons for your
Speaker 1: husband to turn up. Then then you got some more gifts.
Speaker 1: But there will be more to do in the meantime.
Speaker 1: When somebody needs a hug or a prayer or a
Speaker 1: talking to. Hey, it's Rose, It Rose Rose. Although I
Speaker 1: guess the last time Jack was giving her a talking to.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, wouldn't she make a good babysitter. I mean,
Speaker 2: we were always looking for babysitters. She great, she'd probably
Speaker 2: figure out a way to, like bake cookies or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we were saying, I think the last
Speaker 1: time she was on is that she was just sitting
Speaker 1: like on a little hill looking out at the ocean.
Speaker 1: And they could have just parked Walt right next to
Speaker 1: her and said don't leave, don't move, so she could
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, but she would be why is she
Speaker 1: not taking care of Walt? Get that actress more time,
Speaker 1: more screen time. And but she handled Charlie very nicely.
Speaker 1: I still can't believe nobody's out looking for Claire. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that's what what Boonen and Locke we're doing.
Speaker 1: But no, they're trying to they're trying to solve, and
Speaker 1: Clara is somewhere with others. Yeah, sure, it's okay.
Speaker 2: I know I would think that. I mean, Michael was like,
Speaker 2: I needed I need to be do something. I need
Speaker 2: I'm going to go search and then I guess he
Speaker 2: bailed on that idea.
Speaker 1: Why aren't there parties like twenty four to seven?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess get it. If you know Ethan,
Speaker 2: then the others were willing to hang Charlie. Then the
Speaker 2: rest of them are like maybe Clarik.
Speaker 1: And vent for that's true, but I mean Kate.
Speaker 2: And Jack for sure are always like, we can't leave
Speaker 2: that person behind, you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh Jack, Jack had I mean, we've all done
Speaker 1: this as parents. Is like made threats that we have
Speaker 1: no intention of keeping right. But should the only doctor
Speaker 1: on the island be threatening to withhold medical care right
Speaker 1: in such a way that would cause somebody to say,
Speaker 1: possibly lose an arm or die right now, it's Sawyer,
Speaker 1: so nobody would really care. There probably would be no objection,
Speaker 1: but still it sets a bad precedent, does it not?
Speaker 2: It does, But Sawyer didn't believe him, so that's true.
Speaker 1: So it as with kids like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're full of you're full of bologney.
Speaker 1: Mom, You're not gonna follow through on that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do whatever I want to do. Yeah, well sorry Jack,
Speaker 1: but don't do that. Don't do that now, don't think
Speaker 1: of something better to threaten him with than Hey, I
Speaker 1: could withhold antibiotics from you. Right, it's Sawyer's probably got
Speaker 1: a stash of antibiotics.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's got a stash of everything else.
Speaker 1: So he totally did not give them all the antibiotics
Speaker 1: he had. He's got some hidden away, he's got a
Speaker 1: little halburn case somewhere with That's right. You don't want
Speaker 1: to trust somebody like that doctor, Nope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, going back to the clear thing, I'm
Speaker 2: very like worried about her. We have we have just
Speaker 2: like barely even mentioned her, except for Charlie, who's like,
Speaker 2: you know, catatonic over everything that happened to her. And
Speaker 2: why isn't he insisting that people was it?
Speaker 1: Who was it? Somebody referred to her as the pregnant girl.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, she doesn't have any name. Now she's
Speaker 1: just Thank goodness, she's gone. We don't need a baby
Speaker 1: crying here.
Speaker 2: Right, it'll attract undesirable attention.
Speaker 1: We were a little worried we'd have to sacrifice the
Speaker 1: kid to the smoke monster to get some peace, but
Speaker 1: now it's out our hands. Darn the luck. Who could
Speaker 1: possibly guess where she is, why should we even try? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just move our camp now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean said he doesn't want to go look
Speaker 2: for her, Like, what, what's going on with all of
Speaker 2: these people?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I guess the translating of Rousseau's documents
Speaker 1: is in some way intended to help them understand where
Speaker 1: the others might be. So it's sort of what they're
Speaker 1: doing to find Claire. I guess if I was Claire,
Speaker 1: I would not be satisfied.
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't seem sufficient.
Speaker 1: Who knows what could be happening to her? Horrible things?
Speaker 1: But let's let's let's take our time. Let's let's see
Speaker 1: what we can make of these papers, and then eventually
Speaker 1: we'll go fine to somebody who might know something. But rush, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, let her get through late, Let let her
Speaker 1: give birth someplace else. You know, we don't have the
Speaker 1: proper tools and set up here. Sand will get into everything.
Speaker 1: It won't be nice. Yeah, So and then then we'll
Speaker 1: rescue her and the baby.
Speaker 3: It'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the baby, you know. But yeah, it's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this whole thing is weird. That's a given, yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: But uh, there's not one, not one of the top
Speaker 1: episodes here, Kate's gonna have a lot of flashbacks, so.
Speaker 2: We got a dole of my a little by a little.
Speaker 1: I think they're still figuring out what the heck her
Speaker 1: story is. Let's just putter and let's put not just stuff.
Speaker 1: Maybe she does maybe she did that right. Meanwhile, Rose
Speaker 1: is just uh Sander prayers that the show runs long
Speaker 1: enough for them to need more characters to suddenly appear. Right, Hey,
Speaker 1: look who we found. It's a regulars now got to
Speaker 1: kill some people off first? Yeah, I say that, certainly not,
Speaker 1: but don't don't. I recommend you don't. Go on to
Speaker 1: IMDb and check the number of episodes each acter was in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's spoiler warning.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's one way to find out things you don't
Speaker 2: want to know.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. I was. I was looking it up
Speaker 1: for the purpose of finding that out and then thinking,
Speaker 1: holy cow, this is a massive spoiler.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They just got to go home, is what happened to see? Right?
Speaker 1: Some people wanted to go home and some people didn't.
Speaker 1: Some people wanted to stay. Well, what is let's see
Speaker 1: next week? Anything else you want to say about this
Speaker 1: misbegotten mess?
Speaker 2: I think I'm good.
Speaker 1: They can't all be inspiring right. Next Tuesday, we'll continue
Speaker 1: with season one, episode thirteen of Lost Hearts and Minds,
Speaker 1: which I believe is the first flashback episode for Boon.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, can we.
Speaker 1: Find out if he's a male stripper bachelorette party?
Speaker 2: Maybe? Maybe somehow I doubt it.
Speaker 1: Could he possibly be wearing less than Kate was? I
Speaker 1: don't know, God, just in that scuzzy water with dead people,
Speaker 1: with like almost like your personal pot's not covered up
Speaker 1: very well, Kate? Oh pay please go under the waterfallen
Speaker 1: shower afterwards, Michael ever get the shower set up? Y showers? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see if Boone remains fully closed next week in
Speaker 1: either of his story or flashbacks, and we will see
Speaker 1: you back here tomorrow to discuss only murders in the building.
Speaker 1: And on Thursday, we'll be chatting about the episode of
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars that airs tonight, season thirty three,
Speaker 1: episode two. We will flash back to it on Thursday.
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