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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, we're continuing with Lost, Season one, episode twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, but so worst puns so far,

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<v Speaker 1>House of the Rising Sun, or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the case is worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I had forgotten what the title of the episode was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked it up when it was over, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, come on, seriously, seriously, are you

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<v Speaker 1>a professional entertainment product. What are you doing? Yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary silly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is not supposed to be silly in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. It's chilling way, not in a okay dad,

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. Yeah, we start out with those crazy kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer and Kate just having them a little frolic by

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<v Speaker 1>a waterfalls around. She's got her thong on, she's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did he not take his jeans off?

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<v Speaker 1>My question?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe he was naked under there, I guess so.

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<v Speaker 1>See, the thing is, Sawyer would not care if he

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<v Speaker 1>was naked under there, would enjoy taking off his pants

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<v Speaker 1>in front of her. Yes, absolutely, Babc not so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could have, well they had. They did show

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<v Speaker 1>them swimming around. So you're you're swimming around, you're having

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a good time swimming in your underwear, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see some dead bodies. Yeah, and like a normal person's

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<v Speaker 1>reaction would be giving hell out. Oh, let's let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>down right, let's check them out. How do you dive

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<v Speaker 1>down like that? Because I float right? How it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like they were fairly deep to be just holding their

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<v Speaker 1>breath and going down right.

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<v Speaker 2>And opening their eyes all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Water did not look clean either no, but conveniently, what

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<v Speaker 1>should happen to be there completely coincidentally in this place

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<v Speaker 1>they just happened upon well.

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<v Speaker 2>And also later in the episode, Kate is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Marshall had this case and they made him check it,

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<v Speaker 2>so then they find it under a seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this does not work, and I don't understand except

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<v Speaker 1>that it's the Island's magic. Yeah, don't ask questions, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it could just have been loose somewhere nearby

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<v Speaker 1>and not under the seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly like stowed neatly under the seat in front of you,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say deliberately.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, what should have happened is they should

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<v Speaker 1>finally have gotten it open and it turns out it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same case, right, somebody else's stuff you checked it.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't make sense. O, golly, the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 3>just the whole episode was just diminishing returns, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>that particular plot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, I know this show. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what the significance of the little toy plane turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be, but I know there's some significance, but not

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<v Speaker 1>enough for that to have been her motivation immediately enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to wait for five seasons

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<v Speaker 1>to find out what the toy was or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Sooner than that, I guess we find out

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't remember now if it was satisfying or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's too much weight to put on that when

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna know for a while, right, trust us,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be important. It makes sense. We make sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>new for right. Uh. Yeah, this whole this whole episode was.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I felt so sorry for Evangeline Lily when

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<v Speaker 1>she got her costume that day, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, this is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it's a compliment that they think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna look good in it. There's nobody's gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>me in a thong on a camera, I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>But still, man, was that thing skimpy and the camera

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<v Speaker 1>found it a whole lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not get the whole thong thing anyway, just

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<v Speaker 1>for a matter of comforted coverage, it seems to make

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<v Speaker 1>no sense. But you know, in front of Sawyer, really

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<v Speaker 1>would she.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she would have kept her pants on.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of this of this episode was Sawyer and

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<v Speaker 1>Jack trying to get the truth out of Kate. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what's really there, stop lying. I'm not gonna open

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<v Speaker 1>this give you this case until you tell me what's in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, guys, guys, just watch the flashbacks, just

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<v Speaker 1>right down down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, maxim in the flashbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Although of course it wasn't really because we didn't find

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<v Speaker 1>out what the significance of the plane was except that

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<v Speaker 1>it belonged to the man I killed, right and also loved,

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<v Speaker 1>but especially killed. It's just like, all right, we know

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<v Speaker 1>the structure now, Yeah, it's just you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have have cable on the island, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little difficult. But just was tiresome, I thought in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular time, and that robbery was so unpleasant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be just kind of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Trick, right, so she could get a toy plane out

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<v Speaker 2>of a safe deposit box, Like there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>better ways to force a bank to open a safe

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<v Speaker 2>deposit box. Yeah, yeah, you know, there's gotta be some.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it just it was it. I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the first one of these flashback stories that makes no

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<v Speaker 1>sense until a future flashback, right, we need more flashbacks

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<v Speaker 1>to explain this. I think up until now they've been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty here's something happening in the main story, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to illustrate it with this flashback. And even

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't actually see them getting on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, sort of moves us in that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>This was just like, huh, how about that? But you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're gonna have to keep watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So have you ever heard of Halliburton? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is that an actual thing that exists in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard of the unbreak innable suitcases because everybody knew, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to get into a Haliburton. I'm like, right, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've heard about it as.

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<v Speaker 2>A as a company, but I thought it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know mercenary security cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I guess maybe we have like a line

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<v Speaker 1>of merch.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently they do. Yeah, But it was entertaining watching Jack

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<v Speaker 2>or watching Sawyer try to try to get it open.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that Cage could maybe get it open by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hitting it against his skull, but no, she's

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<v Speaker 1>she's a killer, but not a killer, right, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they wanted to use the axe, but Boone,

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<v Speaker 1>it's snuck it away so that they can try to

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<v Speaker 1>open the hatch also by Haliburton apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, because we're struggling with that quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping them busy, Yes, and everybody's got something to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them busy. Shannon is when Boone said to her, she's useless,

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<v Speaker 1>I said to my husband, but she can translate French,

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<v Speaker 1>and right, look what happens. There's French to translate.

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<v Speaker 2>Under the watchful eye of siyd.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, who can say no to that? That's right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she even gets to sing a little song at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. So see, there's a place for everybody. And

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<v Speaker 1>h I think, uh, I think parenting wise, we have

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<v Speaker 1>been reunited with the island mom Rose. Yeah, remember Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about her recently, like we have not

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<v Speaker 2>seen her since about episode two, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>never happened to Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>There she is sorting laundry somewhere, you know. El Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Caldwell is the name of that actor. And they must

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<v Speaker 1>have just had her on a contract that was like

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then, come on down, we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>to until such times we get enough seasons for your

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<v Speaker 1>husband to turn up. Then then you got some more gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>But there will be more to do in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody needs a hug or a prayer or a

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<v Speaker 1>talking to. Hey, it's Rose, It Rose Rose. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the last time Jack was giving her a talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, wouldn't she make a good babysitter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we were always looking for babysitters. She great, she'd probably

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<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to, like bake cookies or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we were saying, I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>time she was on is that she was just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>like on a little hill looking out at the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And they could have just parked Walt right next to

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<v Speaker 1>her and said don't leave, don't move, so she could

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<v Speaker 1>at least. Yeah, but she would be why is she

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<v Speaker 1>not taking care of Walt? Get that actress more time,

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<v Speaker 1>more screen time. And but she handled Charlie very nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>I still can't believe nobody's out looking for Claire. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that's what what Boonen and Locke we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, they're trying to they're trying to solve, and

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<v Speaker 1>Clara is somewhere with others. Yeah, sure, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I would think that. I mean, Michael was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I needed I need to be do something. I need

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go search and then I guess he

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<v Speaker 2>bailed on that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't there parties like twenty four to seven?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess get it. If you know Ethan,

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<v Speaker 2>then the others were willing to hang Charlie. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of them are like maybe Clarik.

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<v Speaker 1>And vent for that's true, but I mean Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jack for sure are always like, we can't leave

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<v Speaker 2>that person behind, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh Jack, Jack had I mean, we've all done

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<v Speaker 1>this as parents. Is like made threats that we have

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<v Speaker 1>no intention of keeping right. But should the only doctor

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<v Speaker 1>on the island be threatening to withhold medical care right

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<v Speaker 1>in such a way that would cause somebody to say,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly lose an arm or die right now, it's Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>so nobody would really care. There probably would be no objection,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it sets a bad precedent, does it not?

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<v Speaker 2>It does, But Sawyer didn't believe him, so that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So it as with kids like yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're full of you're full of bologney.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, You're not gonna follow through on that. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever I want to do. Yeah, well sorry Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't do that. Don't do that now, don't think

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<v Speaker 1>of something better to threaten him with than Hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>could withhold antibiotics from you. Right, it's Sawyer's probably got

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<v Speaker 1>a stash of antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, he's got a stash of everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>So he totally did not give them all the antibiotics

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<v Speaker 1>he had. He's got some hidden away, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>little halburn case somewhere with That's right. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to trust somebody like that doctor, Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, going back to the clear thing, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>why isn't he insisting that people was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was it? Somebody referred to her as the pregnant girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, she doesn't have any name. Now she's

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<v Speaker 1>just Thank goodness, she's gone. We don't need a baby

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it'll attract undesirable attention.

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<v Speaker 1>We were a little worried we'd have to sacrifice the

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<v Speaker 1>now it's out our hands. Darn the luck. Who could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly guess where she is, why should we even try? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just move our camp now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean said he doesn't want to go look

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<v Speaker 2>for her, Like, what, what's going on with all of

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess I guess the translating of Rousseau's documents

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<v Speaker 1>is in some way intended to help them understand where

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<v Speaker 1>the others might be. So it's sort of what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing to find Claire. I guess if I was Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it doesn't seem sufficient.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what could be happening to her? Horrible things?

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's let's take our time. Let's let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what we can make of these papers, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go fine to somebody who might know something. But rush, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let her get through late, Let let her

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<v Speaker 1>give birth someplace else. You know, we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>proper tools and set up here. Sand will get into everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't be nice. Yeah, So and then then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>rescue her and the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the baby, you know. But yeah, it's weird. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is weird. That's a given, yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, there's not one, not one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>episodes here, Kate's gonna have a lot of flashbacks, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a dole of my a little by a little.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're still figuring out what the heck her

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<v Speaker 1>story is. Let's just putter and let's put not just stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she does maybe she did that right. Meanwhile, Rose

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<v Speaker 1>is just uh Sander prayers that the show runs long

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<v Speaker 1>enough for them to need more characters to suddenly appear. Right, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look who we found. It's a regulars now got to

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<v Speaker 1>kill some people off first? Yeah, I say that, certainly not,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't don't. I recommend you don't. Go on to

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<v Speaker 1>IMDb and check the number of episodes each acter was in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's spoiler warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's one way to find out things you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's true. I was. I was looking it up

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<v Speaker 1>for the purpose of finding that out and then thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>holy cow, this is a massive spoiler.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They just got to go home, is what happened to see? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Some people wanted to go home and some people didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people wanted to stay. Well, what is let's see

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<v Speaker 1>next week? Anything else you want to say about this

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<v Speaker 1>misbegotten mess?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't all be inspiring right. Next Tuesday, we'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>with season one, episode thirteen of Lost Hearts and Minds,

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<v Speaker 1>which I believe is the first flashback episode for Boon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, can we.

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<v Speaker 1>Find out if he's a male stripper bachelorette party?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Maybe somehow I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could he possibly be wearing less than Kate was? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, God, just in that scuzzy water with dead people,

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<v Speaker 1>with like almost like your personal pot's not covered up

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<v Speaker 1>very well, Kate? Oh pay please go under the waterfallen

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<v Speaker 1>shower afterwards, Michael ever get the shower set up? Y showers? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if Boone remains fully closed next week in

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<v Speaker 1>either of his story or flashbacks, and we will see

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<v Speaker 1>you back here tomorrow to discuss only murders in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>And on Thursday, we'll be chatting about the episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars that airs tonight, season thirty three,

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<v Speaker 1>episode two. We will flash back to it on Thursday.

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