WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.240 I want to bring all of your attention to a 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:06.759 local matter that touches on the abortion debate. We're going 3 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:09.400 to talk about it a little bit tomorrow on Right 4 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:14.279 to Life Radio, but I want to dig into it 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.640 a little bit here on this show because it has 6 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:21.679 to do with sort of conflicting worldviews about what healthcare 7 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:27.480 provision is and a lot and a lot of my 8 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:33.280 advocacy against abortion. One of the things I've seen is 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:39.000 kind of the cheap charity of abortion provision, the way 10 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:44.159 that people say, well, communities of color really need abortion care. 11 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.159 That's how they always phrase it. That these communities, these 12 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:52.920 lowering communities, they really need abortion services, and we're denying 13 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:57.200 them abortion services. And these communities really need abortion services. 14 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:01.679 And what I see so often is actually no, The 15 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:06.200 overwhelming majority of women who have abortions would rather keep 16 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:11.799 their babies their turnaway. Studies showing it's somewhere from anywhere 17 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:14.280 between sixty and seventy percent of women who have abortions 18 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:19.000 say that the abortion is against their preference, that they 19 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.079 felt pressured or constrained into having the abortion, whether by 20 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:31.959 their financial situation, pressure from partner, family, other reasons, or 21 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:38.400 in some cases outright coercion, And what I find so 22 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.439 often is that it's disproportionately happening, for example, in California, 23 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.120 it's happening in these communities where there aren't enough obgyns 24 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.040 willing to care for lower income people. You have a 25 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.959 ton of medical patients, and you have fewer and fewer 26 00:01:53.000 --> 00:02:01.079 obgyns willing to take lower income patients. So well, that's 27 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.760 part of why I started our Obria Clinic in Fresno, 28 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.719 the Obria Medical Clinics of Central California. It's designed to 29 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:11.919 be a nonprofit obgyn clinic that takes lower income patients 30 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:16.039 who are on medical or on actually on a managed 31 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:22.719 medical plans what we have right now. So so it's 32 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.080 two different mindsets. The mindset of the left is like, 33 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:30.800 we can band aid over the far more serious problems 34 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.680 of lack of healthcare provision for lower income people with abortion, 35 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:42.800 rather than you know, ensure that women have a doctor 36 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:47.560 that they can see, let's just yeah, let's funnel them 37 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.759 into abortion. And I do think that's really what's happening. 38 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:58.400 Abortion is so facilitated, so subsidized, so much easier than 39 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:03.280 actually having a baby as far as insurance wise, healthcare 40 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:08.319 provision wise, You know, very often these women in South Fresno, 41 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:13.319 especially if they're on a medical plan, you know, they'll 42 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.879 call one of the few clinics that is willing to 43 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:18.560 take them and they'll get the answer, well, we're booked 44 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:23.599 solid for four straight months, So your first appointment for 45 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.639 this pregnancy that maybe you are already three or four 46 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.400 months into your pregnancy, is four months down the road. 47 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:34.520 Or I can go to Planned Parenthood next week, get 48 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:44.000 a prescription for the abortion pill. Boom, easy peasy. It's 49 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:48.840 enormously easier with by the way, with no copey, no deductible, 50 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:52.639 no out of pucket costs for my abortion. Because of 51 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.360 the state of California, which has eliminated all copes and 52 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:02.000 deductibles for abortions, they've given extra medical reimbursement funding for abortions. 53 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.719 That blah blah blah blah blah. It is clearly the 54 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.159 state of California facilitates people having abortions far more so 55 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:21.439 than having kids. Now, because the Left has this sort 56 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:23.920 of false sense of charity that they view abortion as 57 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.120 care rather than hey, why are you choosing abortion? Maybe 58 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.120 it's because you're in a bad financial state. Well, maybe 59 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.639 let's help you. You know, what do you need help with? 60 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.000 Maybe let's look at social agencies, you know, whether it's 61 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.839 county agencies, city agencies, whether it's charitable agencies. What do 62 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:43.879 you need help with? Do you need food? You need sheltered, 63 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:45.560 do you need help with rent? Do you need help 64 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.639 with your PG? Need bill? Do you know, do you 65 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.800 need somebody to talk to? Like, that's a lot of 66 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.439 what we do it right to life. When we encounter 67 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.360 someone who's considering abortion, is just help them with that 68 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.560 kind of thing, give them some kind of game plan, 69 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.160 and this gives the person the confidence say yes, I 70 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.720 can't have this baby and let's let's go for which 71 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.600 is what Again, sixty to seventy percent of these women 72 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.720 who have abortions would rather do so it's it's a 73 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.360 false charity to say, oh, all these women are seeking abortions, 74 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.160 so we need to be sure to provide them with 75 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:22.839 more and more and more abortion. Now, with that mindset, 76 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:33.319 abortion providers have been hungrily eyeballing to Larry County. So 77 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.759 for the longest time, there was no abortion clinic in 78 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.759 between Fresno and Bakersfield. There's no abortion clinic in Visalia, 79 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:46.639 no abortion clinic into Larry County. To Larry County up 80 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:53.720 until recently, has been the most populous county in California 81 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.040 without an abortion clinic, and this has been the subject 82 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:06.439 of great frustration and angst for liberals in California. The 83 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:08.839 San Francisco Chronicle did a whole peace on it, and 84 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.879 it's an abortion desert, an abortion care desert, because we 85 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:18.360 have to call it care. And there have been numerous 86 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.040 efforts over the last three years because I think Planned 87 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.759 Parenthood sees a market opportunity, other abortion providers see market 88 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:29.279 opportunity to open an abortion clinic in to Larry County. 89 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.480 A couple of attempts were made in the city of 90 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.759 Visalia itself. All of those were beaten back, largely through 91 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.680 private efforts. So I Direct Right to Life of Central California, 92 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.839 our sister organization is TOI Larry King's Right to Life, 93 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:50.600 and they've been very successful in mobilizing public opposition to 94 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.000 the establishment of local abortion clinics in the city of 95 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:59.600 Icealia and in Tillarry County more broadly, whether that's going 96 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.560 to a council meeting or a planning committee meeting to 97 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.279 voice their opposition in the zoning process, whether it's going 98 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.600 to the private landowner to say, hey, please don't sell 99 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.639 the Planned Parenthood, Please don't lease to this abortion provider 100 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:17.040 that abortion provider. They've done a good job with about 101 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:21.920 two or three different attempts to open Planned Parenthood clinics 102 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:27.800 or abortion clinics to stop it. Well. Another effort has 103 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:31.199 been made in an office complex in the city of 104 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:41.439 Tularry where a Family Planning Associates clinic has now opened up. 105 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.680 Family Planning Associates is you know, if Planned Parenthood is 106 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.360 Coca Cola, Family Planning Associates is basically our c Cola. 107 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:56.279 It's a similar chain of abortion providers. Family Planning Associates is. 108 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.519 All of their clinics are located in California, and it's 109 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.480 much the same kinds of services. There's a Family Planning 110 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.959 Associates has a clinic in Fresno, kind of downtown near 111 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:15.480 Community Hospital, so they've opened up a location into Larry. 112 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:19.839 Now the other doctors in this medical office complex, it's 113 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:21.920 sort of an office complex with a bunch of different 114 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:27.480 private doctor's offices, and they are not happy about an 115 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:32.279 abortion clinic opening up, and they are now engaged in 116 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:38.720 a lawsuit with Family Planning Associates and this is going 117 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.559 to be kind of a significant thing for the state 118 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.519 of California. So let me kind of lay out some 119 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:47.559 of the issues that are going on here. One of 120 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:54.200 the big so the central contention of the other doctors 121 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.480 from this office complex into Larry, is that they have 122 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:07.200 for their office complex a covenant that sort of governs 123 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.279 the kinds of businesses that are allowed to be opened 124 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:14.600 within their office complex. Lots of office complexes have a 125 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.080 similar sort of thing. You know, if you've got a professional, 126 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.559 you know, set of office suites that have you know, 127 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.320 lawyers and doctors and CPAs. You know, they maybe they 128 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:31.000 don't want a tattoo parlor opening up within their office complex. Okay, 129 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.240 maybe they don't want a burger king in their office complex. 130 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.200 Of maybe they don't want a pizza parlor. Nothing wrong 131 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.919 with a pizza parlor, but they're sort of like, well, no, 132 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.879 we want this office complex to be reserved for these 133 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:51.200 kinds of businesses, and that's legitimate to do. So they 134 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.679 have a covenant governing that that lists the kinds of 135 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:56.759 businesses that will and will not be allowed to open 136 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.879 up in that complex. And I think it's just restricted 137 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:03.159 to like private doctor's offices. Within that particular complex. Now, 138 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.440 it specifically lists in that covenant. It's pretty old document. 139 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.960 I think it was from I forget if I think 140 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:14.159 it was from the late eighties early nineties. It specifically 141 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:19.519 lists abortion clinics as a kind of business that they 142 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:25.440 will not allow to have within their complex. They say, no, 143 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:29.639 we're not gonna we're not gonna allow abortion clinics within 144 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:31.519 our complex. We don't want to have that as one 145 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:42.440 of the tenants within this and the lawsuit centers around that. Now, 146 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.120 a little bit of it is kind of a what 147 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.320 it depends on what the meaning of is is situation. 148 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:58.759 Family Planning Associates tried to put forward this argument that no, no, no, no, no, 149 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:03.320 we're not an abortion clinic because we're not doing surgical abortions. 150 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.240 This very deceptively left out the fact that they are 151 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.720 prescribing and dispensing the abortion pill. That's an abortion clinic. 152 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:18.399 If you're a clinic where people can go to get abortions, 153 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:23.240 you're an abortion clinic. And they're their argument as well. 154 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.440 This covenant was written in you know, late eighties, early 155 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:30.639 in nineteen ninety one, before the abortion pill was a thing, 156 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.919 so there was no way it could have been foreseen. Well, no, 157 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:36.679 the abortion pill was a thing in Europe at the time, 158 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.720 and a lot of people were you could see the 159 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.919 possibility that it could come to the United States. The 160 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.279 idea that it was an unknown thing seems completely silly. 161 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.519 So the argument is stemming. The lawsuit is steming around 162 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.559 a couple of different things. And I think what I'm 163 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:00.279 going to do is I'm going to take a break 164 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:01.720 here and then in the next segment I'm going to 165 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.360 talk about this. Basically, it's going to center around this. 166 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:12.879 Do we treat abortion provision like do we treat discrimination 167 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:17.600 against abortion providers as being the same thing effectively as 168 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.840 discriminating against someone on the basis of race. We'll talk 169 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.279 about that in the next segment. This is the John 170 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:27.240 Girardi Show on Power Talk. There's a lawsuit happening in 171 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.360 to Larry County. An abortion clinic is trying to open 172 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:34.919 in a private doctor's sort of a office complex. The 173 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:39.000 other doctors within the office complex are suing to stop 174 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.320 the abortion provider from opening. The doctors say, hey, we 175 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.440 have a covenant governing this office complex. It says no 176 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.960 abortion clinics are allowed to open up. The response from 177 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.840 the abortion clinics is something that could be really significant 178 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.840 for California law, and it's a strain of stuff that 179 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.600 liberals are trying to incorporate and have succeeded in incorporating 180 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.679 in many aspects of California law. Which is this trying 181 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:10.879 to treat decisions around abortion as if it's a protected 182 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:16.039 category on the level of race and sex. So let 183 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.559 me explain. Let's take the example of this. You know, 184 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.879 this office complex. This is an office complex, intularry. It's 185 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:30.080 all different private doctors, offices, doctors, dentists, et cetera. They 186 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.519 have a covenant that says, you know, there are various 187 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:36.399 kinds of businesses that we don't want to have within 188 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:38.440 our office complex. We just want to restrict it to 189 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:42.200 private doctor's offices. We also, we don't want an abortion 190 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:47.240 clinic in this complex. That was in there the covenant 191 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.320 sort of governing what businesses can be in this office complex. 192 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.320 We don't want a burger king. We don't want a 193 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:57.200 pizza parlor. You know, we don't want you know, I 194 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.720 don't know. We don't want a skateboard shop. We don't 195 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.200 want a marijuana dispensary. These are the kinds of things 196 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.000 we want within this office complex. We don't want a 197 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.799 liquor store. We only want private doctor's offices, and we 198 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:15.000 also don't want abortion clinics. Plenty of office complexes all 199 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:21.039 around the state and the country have that. Now, let's 200 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.240 suppose that those doctors with their office complex had a 201 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:29.279 provision in that covenant that governs the kinds of businesses 202 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.080 that can be there. Let's suppose they had a provision 203 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:35.559 in that covenant that said, we are not going to 204 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.000 allow in our office complex any African American owned businesses. 205 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:49.120 If they said that that provision in their covenant that's 206 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:56.559 governing their office complex, that would be illegal, unenforceable. Okay, 207 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.240 Why well, it's discriminating on the basis of race. If 208 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:05.080 an African American doctor, who otherwise totally was in compliance 209 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:10.279 with the terms of the covenant, an African American, you know, 210 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:14.039 let's say an African American dentist wanted to set up 211 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.879 shop within the office complex and a prior owner wanted 212 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.639 to sell his spot to this guy, and they had 213 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.000 a dispute over it. The African American doctor would win. 214 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.320 Why well, provisions in a contract like that are just 215 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:32.080 not enforceable. They violate the rights that they basically violate 216 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.080 many provisions of the Civil Rights Acts, and probably there's 217 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.279 a California version of the Civil Rights Act that prohibits 218 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:47.240 business discrimination on the basis of race. We've determined in 219 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:54.039 this country that many kinds of discrimination are fine. Many 220 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:59.919 kinds of reasonable discrimination are totally fine. Discrimination that has 221 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.480 as a valid end purpose to it. One of the 222 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.600 great examples of business discrimination that you're one hundred percent 223 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.200 for you to engage in is no shoes, no shirt, 224 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:17.639 no service. That is a form of business discrimination. That 225 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.279 is a form of discrimination that is legally permitted in 226 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:25.120 this country. Not all discrimination is bad, but in America, 227 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.840 through the Civil Rights Acts, through our application of the 228 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.879 Equal Protection Clause, and various of the fourteen Amendment, in 229 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.879 various different ways, we have come to determine that certain 230 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:39.600 forms of discrimination are wrong, and we have legally prohibited them. 231 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.120 A supermarket saying we're not going to serve black patrons 232 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.759 is wrong. There's nothing different about a black patron versus 233 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:50.759 a white patron other than the pigments of their skin. 234 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:56.440 There's nothing inherent about them that is different. And to 235 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:01.559 cut off access to a basic service like groceries to 236 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.759 a whole segment of the population purely on the basis 237 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:09.839 of the pigment of their skin is irrational, and we've 238 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:15.359 made it illegal. What this abortion clinic that's trying to 239 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:20.440 open up into Larry is basically trying to argue is 240 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:25.279 that their status as an abortion provider is as important 241 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:31.920 a category as being black. It's something that is as 242 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:45.759 deserving of legal protection as being black. Now, I think 243 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:50.680 this is deeply offensive to the entire history and legacy 244 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:54.839 of the civil rights movement in this country, many of 245 00:17:54.880 --> 00:18:00.440 whose leaders were at the time. Pro life reads old 246 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:05.160 quotes from Jesse Jackson back before he was trying to become, 247 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.240 you know, a Democratic Party powerbroker. He has some of 248 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:13.200 the most compelling pro life speeches you've ever read in 249 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:18.200 your life. Yeah, that Jesse Jackson, the lover Jackson has 250 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.079 Rush used to call him all the time. Yeah, he 251 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.960 was super pro life early in his career, before he 252 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.599 wanted to be running for president as a Democrat and 253 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.079 had to embrace sort of the panoply of liberal beliefs. 254 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:37.920 And it also sort of goes to this, like the 255 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:42.119 idea that this is a constant thing with abortion, that 256 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.680 some people refer to this as the abortion distortion. So, 257 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.039 on the one hand, we are led to believe that 258 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:50.920 abortion is it's just a medical procedure. It's just a 259 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:53.160 medical procedure like any other, and that there are no 260 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.720 moral stakes attached to it anymore so than getting your 261 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.480 appendix removed. Okay, it's just a question of a woman 262 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.519 being able to exercise autonomy over her body by having 263 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.519 this legitimate medical procedure to deal with a problem she's having. 264 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:09.759 Let's note that ninety nine percent of the time it's 265 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.240 not a medical problem she's having, it's a social problem. 266 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:23.599 But anyway, regardless, if it's just a healthcare procedure, why 267 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:32.079 does it require this level of civil rights esque protection, 268 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.920 Because this is in the only arena where liberals are 269 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.799 trying to make this argument. They're in this specific case 270 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:42.440 into Larry County. They're trying to argue this office complex 271 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:46.000 into Larry that doesn't want a family planning associate's abortion 272 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:51.039 clinic to open up within its office complex. The provision 273 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.960 in their covenant that says no abortion clinics allowed is 274 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.200 as unreasonable and should be as unenforceable as a provision 275 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:01.039 saying no black owned business is allowed. That's what they're 276 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:07.680 trying to argue. But what if a complex like that said, 277 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:09.759 you know, we don't want a dialysis center, or you know, 278 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:16.319 we don't want a quest like a lab center within 279 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:20.000 our office complex. You know, we just want to restrict 280 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:25.400 or even just something like, hey, no dentists, just MD's offices. 281 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:33.519 No dentists, just mds and d o's. If they had 282 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.759 a provision that said no dental offices, it would be 283 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:39.240 a little weird, but no one would be saying this 284 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.480 is violating the civil liberties rights of the dentist community. 285 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.880 These men, like the Seinfeld episode, these men are raging 286 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.359 anti dentites. Oh it starts with a little joke here 287 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:56.599 and there. Anyway, No, no one would care if an 288 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:58.279 office complex said no, we're not going to have a 289 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.200 dentist on the premises. Everyone be like, all right, well 290 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:05.400 that's weird, I guess, but whatever, and move on. It 291 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:10.200 wouldn't be some illegal form of discrimination and just say, hey, dentists, 292 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:13.319 go find some other office to set up shopping. Sorry, 293 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:19.279 but for some reason. With abortion providers, no no, no, 294 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.400 no no, then we have to move heaven and earth. 295 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.960 With abortion providers, it's like if you don't host an 296 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.559 abortion clinic on your premises. It's a civil rights violation. 297 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:30.480 In fact, one of the arguments it seems to be 298 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.799 made is if you don't host an abortion clinic on 299 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:38.200 your premises, that is a form of just flat out 300 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.720 discriminating against women. It would be like having a covenant 301 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.079 within your office complex that says we're not going to 302 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:50.640 allow any female owned offices within our complex. No female 303 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:52.640 doctors are allowed to set up shop here, you know, 304 00:21:52.680 --> 00:22:03.920 put up their shingle. So this lawsuit could have a 305 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.839 fairly significant impact on California law. It could have a 306 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:15.079 significant impact on the ability of private business owners who 307 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:20.880 have office complexes, you know, the collections of doctors who 308 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.119 run an office complex, of businesses that run an office complex, 309 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.880 landowners who own say a strip mall or something. This 310 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:34.160 case could have a significant impact on their ability just 311 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.480 to say, hey, I don't want an abortion clinic here. 312 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.799 I just don't. Is that going to be viewed by 313 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:47.160 the state as something that's equivalent to I don't want 314 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.559 a black owned business. I think that's totally legitimate for 315 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.720 the for state law to regulate the ability of a 316 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.480 business to just engage in flat out racial discrimination. I 317 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:01.000 think that's wrong I think that's an unreasonable form of 318 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:09.319 discrimination that has massive harmful impacts on a segment of 319 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:15.680 the population for no good reason. But for this elective 320 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:22.119 procedure percent of the time, that's what abortion is. For 321 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:27.519 this elective procedure. The idea of saying no, no, no, 322 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:31.440 the decision of a doctor to be an abortion provider 323 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.680 or in California, a nurse practitioner or a PA, because 324 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.160 PAS and nurse practitioners can do abortions in California can 325 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:44.519 do surgical abortions in California. That that is as something 326 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.799 that deserves as much protection under law as the color 327 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.039 of your skin should not be a basis on which 328 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.839 someone can engage in discrimination against you. That is the 329 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.680 level that they're trying to take it. So will you'll 330 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.079 have the full report on this topic next week. We'll 331 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.799 be covering it on John Girardi Show. We'll be covering 332 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:08.400 it on Right to Life Radio when we return. When 333 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:12.519 we return, a very sad story about a pornographic actress 334 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:15.440 and what it means for the ethics of consent in 335 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:20.359 sexuality next on the John Girardi Show. All Right, this 336 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:26.000 next topic is a adult topic. If you have kids 337 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.960 in the car. Let's do some earmuffs here, you know, 338 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.079 change the channel to you know, change it over to 339 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:37.920 another iHeart station. Let's go to go to the soft 340 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.960 rock station, to go to Fox Sports thirteen forty, you know, 341 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.640 change it over all, right, let's keep listening to iHeart. 342 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.759 There you go. But this is sort of a serious topic, 343 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.839 kind of an adult topic, and it has to do 344 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.880 with a lot of thoughts I've had about broader cultural 345 00:24:54.960 --> 00:25:01.799 ideas about sex and marriage. There's a YouTube film that's 346 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:07.039 been released entitled I Slept With one Hundred Men in 347 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:16.400 One Day. It is not, unfortunately, a drama. It is 348 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:21.160 shot as a documentary, so that thing that is in 349 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.519 the title actually happened. Lily Phillips a woman who had 350 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:30.240 sex with one hundred and one men in a single 351 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:39.640 day in October. This YouTube documentary has gained some notoriety, 352 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:47.160 and this woman genuinely had sexual had sexual relations with 353 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.720 one hundred people in the course of a single day. 354 00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:58.400 Some of the video clips of this that not of 355 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:06.400 actual basically of her being interviewed after the fact, are 356 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:17.640 terrifying to me. Just her appearance, how she's talking about it, 357 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:22.839 sort of the obvious instability, just the kind of crazy. 358 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:30.440 Just look in her eyes and my heart just breaks 359 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:40.200 seeing this, how this young woman, this is just clearly 360 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:48.799 something that is deeply, deeply, deeply, deeply disturbing. And it's 361 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:55.559 kind of the logical end game of the bizarre way 362 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.160 in which sexual ethics have been warped since the time 363 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.559 of the sexual Revolution, and sort of the lowest common 364 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:06.279 denominator ethics that we have in the West, in this 365 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.079 sort of post Christian West. So what what is the 366 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.880 lowest common denominator ethics that we have left in the West. 367 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.960 What is the kind of sexual ethic that is dominant? 368 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.880 Basically the dominant sexual ethic in the West, the liberalizing 369 00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.359 sexual ethic that we have now just inherited from the 370 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:34.079 sexual Revolution is that any condemnation of a sex act 371 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:44.400 is wrong outside of non consensual sex. As long as 372 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:53.440 sex is consensual, have at it. Consent is the only 373 00:27:54.160 --> 00:28:07.160 ethical touchstone, the only ethical guideline governing sex. Nothing about commitment, 374 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:15.160 nothing about marriage, nothing about children. The only thing of 375 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:26.039 concern is consent. Nothing about having sex with someone of 376 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.839 the same sex, opposite sex, multiple partners, whatever. As long 377 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:34.359 as people are free and willing consensual partners, sex is 378 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.759 fine and I think it seems like it takes a 379 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.759 stunt like this to make people start to question their assumptions. 380 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:50.880 So let me talk about this for a bit. Obviously, 381 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:59.720 consent is an essential, it's a necessary part of the 382 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.839 calculations of sex. My contention is that it is not 383 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:12.119 sufficient necessary, not sufficient. Okay. This is not me saying, oh, well, 384 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.279 I think, you know, husbands should be allowed to rape 385 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:19.519 their Why this is not some backwards caricature of Christianity, Like, no, no, 386 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.799 anyone who's trying to, you know, pigeonhole me as like, oh, 387 00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.519 it's a right radical, right wing nutjob thinks it's okay 388 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:31.799 for husbands to rape their wife. No, absolutely not. Okay, 389 00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:37.720 consent is a necessary condition of an ethical sexual life, 390 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:43.359 but I just don't think it is sufficient. And I 391 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.759 think a lot of the problems with viewing sex as 392 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:51.440 just it's just purely about whether the participants are good 393 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:57.119 with it. It's a denial of, I think, the reality 394 00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.160 of sex. I think we've had a lot of cultural 395 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:04.079 developments since the nineteen fifties that have resulted in people 396 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:10.160 being able to have a completely warped and untrue concept 397 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.960 of what sex is. What is sex in its if 398 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.839 I will it's natural state. Maybe I'll say it in 399 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:25.000 its pre contraceptive state. Take someone back to I don't know, 400 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:32.400 eighteen hundred. Let's go back to eighteen hundred. If you 401 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.240