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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome to the Human Animal Connection Podcast. I'm
your host and the executive director of the Human Animal Connection.
We're a nonprofit organization and we do therapy dog and
therapy donkey work. And I'm so happy to have Danny
Domingus with me here today because she is a registered
Dietitian nutritionist and a certified pet nutritionist, which is so important.
And she is founder of Sunbright Wellness where she helps
people their pets achieve whole body wellness through nutrition, lifestyle
and mindset. And her expertise has been featured all over
national media and outlets like Oprah Daily, Martha Stewart, Rover, ABC,
Real Simple, Butter Homes and Gardens Wow. And she's passionate
about translating evidence based health into practical, everyday habits. So Danny,
welcome to the show. Good to have you.
Speaker 3: Thank you's so much for having you know, so excited
to be here and have this conversation because I think
it's such an important one.
Speaker 2: It really is. I mean, so many people are like
really wanting to do better by the animals who share
their lives, and often they're you know, it's hard to
get the right knowledge. Often their veterinarians, you know, Unfortunately,
poor veterinarians, they don't get any nutritional education in school.
All they get is, you know, the companies that come
around and give them samples and tell them what they
want them to think.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But this is so important because oftentimes behavior that's mystifying
people are confused about, and it really relates back to
what are you eating? I end up saying to people,
so what are you feeding? What are you feeding? What
are you feeding? And when we make changes, we see
wonderful behavior changes. So I am totally on board with
what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm on board with what you're
doing because I you know, it's just so amazing what
you know, nutrition and also behaviors and like working through
that together, like what you're doing on your side, and
then you know, add that nutrition side. Man, it's like
a force to be reckoned with it. Really when it
comes to animal worlcare, it.
Speaker 2: Really is, and it really is so many people are
really struggling. You know, my my dog is scratching, my cats,
not using the litter box, all these things, and we
find out when we when we find out what they're eating,
I say, you know what, maybe it's time for a
change because sometimes people we they don't know there were
you know, the labels are confusing on the pet food things,
and so we're really going to be encouraging people to
consider homemade if not one fifty percent, twenty five percent, whatever,
you can manage. This is not a cult. We're not
going to turn people who you know, but we're really
into looking at healthy things. So let's start with the
story of your dog, Foxy and how she first came
into your life and how she completely changed the direction
of your career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was actually I didn't really expect myself to
even get into pet nutrition. So actually, a couple of
years ago, I was studying for my exam to become
a registered dietitian nutritionist, and you know, there's a lot
of studying that goes in with that. I was like, well,
I'm just kind of looking for, you know, a job
that can help facilitate that studying. I ended up getting
recruited for like working at an animal shelter, and I
was like, well, well that's great, Like I can help
animals and then also just study for my exam and
do all of that. So while I was working at
the animal shelter, I was also actually fostering just these
medically challenged cases. And since I didn't have any other
pets in our home, I really felt like I had
the opportunity to just like create this space where these
animals could come in and just heal from whatever they
had going on in their situation. And like, for example,
I ended up having a dog in my home for
one hundred and fifty days and it was on even
nine to eleven pills a day for medic cool stuff
it was going through. So I was just very thankful
to be able to be able to provide that home
for him so that he could just then get adopted
and have you know, an awesome life wherever he went.
And so kind of in my role at the animal shelter.
I ended up transitioning to working more with rural animal
shelters and helping decrease euthanasia rates. And so in part
of that process, I would go down to like border
towns and then really just either try to help transport
animals to different animal shelters that really just had a
better outcome of being adopted, or just you know, providing
resources that I could to help with that process of
decreasing those rates. And one little dog that came well,
I guess he's not little anymore, but one dog that
came through one of the border town shelters was this
dog named Foxy. So I ended up transferring her to
another animal shelter, and we quickly found out that she
had a medical issue that and I'm not sure how
much you know about rural animal shelters, but there's not
many veterinarians on staff, or you don't have a lot
of resources. So when a medical issue that big kind
of princess itself, it's usually euthanasia or like them paying
out of pocket to help this animal. So for Foxy,
there was this wonderful volunteer that was at the shelter
that ended up driving her three hours commute to a
veterinarian and found out she had this medical issue that
was not cancerous, but they ended up treating it with
six rounds of chemotherapy. So after those six rounds of
chemo therapy, they asked if I could actually foster her,
And since I didn't have any dogs at the time,
I was like, well, yeah, sure, she's such a cute
talk like yeah, I'll help her with this process of
just providing a space outside of allowed shelter to just
really yeal and recover. And she came into our home
and one day she was just laying on the on
the ground and she just didn't look well, like she
had lost a lot of weight, she had lost a
lot of fur. She looked like seriously that she was
like ten years old, when really she was maybe a
year old. W I was just petting her on the
ground and I was like, man, you know, as you know,
becoming a human dietitian, I was like, I really do
believe in the healing power of food, Like maybe what
foods can I help with like Foxy and like helping
her heal on that process. And that was my light
bulb moment for me that I was like, wait a minute,
there is a whole nother round that for pet nutrition
that I don't even know about. And then when I
ended up adopting her, you know, and having to go
to the pet store myself and like pick foods, I
just realized how little I knew about pet food in general.
And that kind of started me on this trajectory of
becoming a certified pet nutritionist so that I could become
knowledgeable myself, but then now also helping other people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wonderful. So what did you begin with Foxy?
How did you begin the journey of transitioning into healthy
foods and what happened when you did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so essentially did choose to adopt her because she
is my I actually took a lot of pride and
like as a foster that I'm like, I'm never gonna
foster fail because I want to have this home open
for all of these medically you know, challenged situations. But
she was just my souldogs. So we ended up adopting her,
and and honestly, I thought I would like go into
the pet food dial because you know, I essentially at
that time, had you know, four years of nutrition education,
my bachelor's two years in my master's degree, did an
entire year of internship, so you know, you're looking at
seven years of nutritional education that I'd be like, I'm
going to be in and out five minutes. I'm gonna
look at them pet fit bobal, I will take this
away and we'll be it'll be good to go, will
be so just fantastic, and I'll feel really good about
the food I'm feeding her, because they gave me kibble
at that time to supplement until I ended up adopting her. Yeah,
thirty minutes later and still standing in that pet food
aal being like right happening. I was so confused. I
didn't know at that time that they didn't include like
carbohydrate numbers and that if you really wanted the accurate number,
you'd have to essentially call the company, get a certain number,
do a whole calculation to just find out how much
carbs are in this in this cable. And that just
really honestly irritated me because I'm like, yes, I have
all of this nutrition education and I can't even read
a pet food label. How are other people going about this?
And I just I was very frustrated at that moment.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, that's a great story. Seven years of
nutritional training and you can't get through a label and
no one else can either, you know, and the labels
are are you know, I don't, well, maybe deliberately deceptive,
I'm going to say it, because you know, they keep
more information from us than they give us on those labels,
and you'd have to be, you know, work for the
company to really know what's really going on with those labels.
So this is one of the reasons why I really
encourage people to consider making some homemade foods. There's many
foods that we humans eat that are really good for
the animals who sure lives, and we can make a
single meal that we can enjoy and the animal can
enjoy too. So it doesn't have to be like some
like I am like clueless in the kitchen. But I
can make home mid kibble, you know, I can make
I can boil up some ground b or some ground turkey,
and you know these different things. I got the other
day hand little craving for beats, you know, beats in
the cooked beats, and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
have one, and they're gonna have one, and they loved it.
It's just like, you know, not gonna give it to
them every day. I don't have it every day, but
whatever you've got around. I mean, with the exception of
a very short list like onions and caffeine and alcohol,
very it's really a small list of things that they
can't have macadamia that smedala whatever. But yeah, so this
is wonderful. So tell us the story about how you
began to pay attention to the connection between digestion, skin conditions,
the energy levels. What did you begin to notice when
you started doing work with animals?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is like such a And maybe it was
just because I didn't know this much because I didn't
really like own my my own personal dog. It was
always like my parents' dogs, right, And I was like, oh,
you know, you take care of them. And now I'm
like very cognitive of like Foxy and like really paying
attention to her symptoms. And then even just like how
the diet changes, so like, and I guess I'll kind
of finish my story is that even you know, being
at that pet food you know Aisle, right, I did
into choosing one, and then once I learned more, I
decided to home cook for my pet and I make
sure it's nutritionally balanced, that it's f cokerangulated, all of
those types of things. And you know, I don't spend
probably more than like one to two hours in an
a ten day period prepping her food. So I think
that can also be a barrier for you know, individuals
that they're like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to
be in the kitchen for five hours cooking for my pet,
and that's not always necessarily the case.
Speaker 2: We definitely recommend, you know, batch cooking, so you can
make food for the week, in some cases, food for
the month, depending upon what you're making. You can freeze things,
you can refrigerate things, and it's just as convenient when
you're doing that, when you're thinking ahead that way. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I even noticed when I did end up
transitioning Foxy over to home cook food, that her fur
grew back so much, which I know those part of
the chemo, but like she hardly had any hair on
her tail, and now like her longest strands like four inches,
Like she has a really like like fluffy tail, and
her like fur was so soft, and like the energy
that came from switching that food and being really cognitive
of what I'm feeding her, she was like just like
a different type of puppy after like you know, transitioning.
So when I'm specifically working with pet parents now with
their pet and figuring now, I actually really take a
holistic approach. And this is really the same that I
do for my human clients. Is that you know, when
there's typically a symptom that's being presented, like let's just
say an ear infection or you know, diarrhea or whatever
that is, it's usually linked to something. So it's kind
of like instead of just treating that symptom of like, okay,
chronic ear infection, put eardrops in it, Okay, you're good
to go, I really look at the whole picture and say, like, well,
what is the root cause that is even causing that
symptom in the first place, And then if we can
use food to help balance out whatever organ is inbalanced,
then theoretically the symptoms should go away on its own
because you're fixing that root problem. It's kind of like
a weed, right, if you like just pull it up
at the ground, you know, just like at ground level
or cut it off, it's going to keep growing back
because the root has not been taken out in that process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what's focks to eating?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What's take us through a week of feeding foxy?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: So I'm very much like cognitive making tuggers, and it's protein,
you know enough, you know, grains and vegetables, and I
kind of rotate based off of like what her like her,
So I do a lot of also Chinese medicine and
what I do so I really tailor it too, Like
if she is you know, kind of maybe more internally hot,
then I'll do a lot of more like foods that
would help kind of cool that situation down. So I
kind of change it based off of like what is
going on with her body at that time. But I
mean typically you're looking at well and also a challenge
that she is sensitive to bold beef and chicken. So
I've had kind to be creative, you know, doing like pork,
I'll do like some type of grain depending on what
that looks like, whether that's right now. I've been really
into like just using quenoa and then like a lot
of cucumber and oh goodness, what else I put broccoli
in it as well, and then making kale. So I
kind of just like keep mixing it up each time
that I do. But then I have like a whole
vitamin mixture that you know, I do before like with cooking,
and then also after to make sure it's nutritionally balanced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's excellent.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have been there's been
a kind of a marketing campaign that will oh, no
grain and you know, this is very unhealthy, these these
no grain diets. This is a marketing hype. That's it's
awful because and what we've been seeing is is higher
cases of cardiac problems and dogs that we weren't seeing
before than no grain trend. So it's really sportant for
people to understand that healthy grains and moderation. Everything in moderation,
but the healthy grains are an important aspect of a
dog's diet. And I don't know about you, but I
recommend people cook the vegetables not raw. I find that
dogs they can't really break down the like a raw,
like a braw piece of broccoli, So go ahead and
cook it. Doesn't that be cooked to oblivion, or you
could also pureate it. But the vegetables are very good,
but they need to be cooked. They need to not
be in the raw state. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely one of those like it is a
little bit harder in their digestion. And even with that
whole like grain situation that it's like, you know, it's
like a fad diet in the in the pet world,
which is really unfortunate because I think that the marketing
on all of these foods are very much like taking
prey to just people who just didn't know. And there's
a lot of time you now, even when I look
back on like just what I didn't know about pet nutrition,
it's like giving myself that grace right of like, well
I just didn't know to kind of look back on
how some of these marketing and actually take advantage of that.
And then really it's at the detriment of the pet
right they're the ones stuff grain in this, which is
just really irritating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again those labels, I'm being able to say
blueberries and that maybe there's one blueberry and a fifty
pounds bag, you know, and people are, oh great, I'm
giving blueberries, you know. But let's talk for a minute
about the horrible kibble because I'm always on a campaign. Now,
if you're not ready, to eliminate it a one hundred percent.
You can eliminate it somewhat, or you know, as much
as you can manage, you can make your own of course.
But let's talk about kibble. What are your thoughts about kibble?
Speaker 3: Oh, so that's a controversial question.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I think there are kibbles that are better than others.
I will say that like any human diet as well. Right,
there's I think when we classify fast food, I think
there's fast food that you know, I would probably choose
one over the other. Kind of the same thing in
this pet industry. When I started like learning more about
the pet nutrition labels and all of that type of stuff,
I was really surprised that a lot of like you know,
and actually this is something I do educate a lot
of my clients on, is that they're like, well, I've
been feeding the same bag of kibble this entire time,
and then when we go and then they started having
a reaction like skin or you know, diarrhea or whatever
that looks like. But when we start looking at the
ingredient list and it just says meat meal, they don't.
But they can like advertise all they want that it's
going to be chicken or beef. But because they don't
classify on the ingredient list what type of protein that is.
One batch may be chicken, one batch may be beef,
the next one may be fish. It's kind of whatever
it is. They don't have to possify what meat that is.
And I think that's, you know, one of those things
that you know, as a pet parent, you're like, well,
I didn't do anything wrong because I'm feeding the same
thing over and over. But that's probably one of those
diets or those kibbles that i'd be like, maybe stick
away from because they don't tell you what's actually in
the food, but they're labeling it as chicken, which that
is just not fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very small percentage of something like twenty percent,
and they're allowed to write the word chicken on it,
But what about the other eighty percent of ingredients that
are in that kibble? And you know, I just want
to remind people that in order to make kibble because
so many well, first of all, they have a lot
of toxic ingredients in it, so they have to heat
it to six hundred degrees over a long period of time. Now,
there's nothing alive at the end of that kibble making process,
so it's nutritionally dead. You know, it may have started
out of having a few ingredients that were protein at
some point. But you know, this is the problem with
kibbl is that people think that it cleans their teeth,
which is not true. Yeah, and you know, I mean
truth with buy I buy a very expensive brand of kibble.
It's ninety dollars a bag, but they're only getting a
tablespoon of kibble and it's only for psychological purposes there.
I have no illusions that there's any nutrition in that kibble,
but it's just something that you know, they like to
crunch on something. So but you know, I think so
in other words, it doesn't have to be one hundred
percent and you can work on reducing kibble because you know,
they've been I don't know if you followed the pet industry,
the recalls that have been going on. I mean, it's
just extraordinary. What the public does not hear. It doesn't
make the news, but you know, literally every day things
are being recalled, voluntarily recalled, even you know, I mean,
it's horrific what's going on. I mean, roadkill. And one
of the reason is why they know that they've found phenobarbital,
which is the drug use in euthanasia, is being found
in pet food. So, you know, animals that have been
killed in not so great shelter situations and ending up
in pet food, and just you know, it's really really
horrific what's going on on the commercial pet side. And
so I don't want to dwell too much on the
horror of it, but let's we're gonna take a little
break when we come back and want to hear a
story about how nutrition changed the lives of the pets
that you've been working with. Yeah, absolutely, well back in
just a moment.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to The Human Animal Connection, where I'm speaking
with Danny Dimingz and she is a certified pet nutritionist,
and I want to hear some stories about how nutrition
has really turned the lives around for the people and
the animals who share their lives with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, so many stories. And this is
like such a passion I have, you know, And why
I love what I do is that I get to
see these amazing transformations that maybe just like the you know,
just not knowing right and then putting on a path
that you feel just better about. And so the first
story I have is actually of a client came to
me with their pet, specifically a dog, and the situation
was essentially that they thought the adoption was coming from
from a more reputable source, and it ended up not
being as clean as they had been. The whole adoption
process was a little bit more muddy than she expected.
So this dog ended up coming to her and for
two years she dealt with diarrhea with this with this
little puppy, so its entire life was dealing with diarrhea.
So she comes to me and was like, hey, this
is what's going on. And so we ended up looking
at like all of the different elements and a holistic
approach and kind of looking at the food and the
kibble that she was feeding, and so I really much
I pretty much advise. I'm like, well, let's try like
home cooked food to just see if we can get
some of that diarrhea and get a little bit more
fiber into their just to kind of help the situation.
And so since this, you know, puppy has really been
dealing with this for two years, Like, I didn't really
expect it to be a fast turnaround. Typically that usually if
you've been dealing with something that long, it takes the
system a little bit of time to kind of come
on board with it. So after about two months after feeding,
you know, just home cooked meal, specific designed for this dog.
That the diary has now officially gone away, so that
has been like, Yeah, and even when I think about
it from like a whole perspective of like, man, the
disruption of the pet owner's life and you know that family,
like how much she had to deal with and it
usually happened at night, so she's getting up multiple times
per you know, in the middle of the night to
clean up you know, everything off of the carpet and
all of that. And I think they had white carpets,
so that was a whole nothere. And then to finally now, yes,
you know, the home cooking is a little bit more
of a time consuming situation. But when I think about
how much effort she went into, you know, financially of
going to veterinarians, doing all this blood work, going to
all of these specialists and not really having an answer
to now switching the food to Yeah, it's like how
much money is she staying in the long run versus
like spending maybe a little bit more time prepping the food.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a beautiful story, wonderful, so exciting, it's so
exciting the possibilities. You know, this much that we can do,
we can't fix everything, of course with food, but we
can fix a lot. Yeah, So tell us a little
bit about how how Foxy's journey has been. So you've
been on this on this homemade journey with Foxy. So
how many years has Foxy been on homemade?
Speaker 3: So I guess it's been about two years now that
I've really tailored the diet to her. And and I
think this is actually I was even just having a
consultation with a cat parent just actually last weekend, and
we were essentially talking about how, you know, when we
do end up trying to transition to like home cook
or something, it's like giving yourself grace in that moment.
I think even for me as a pet owner of
not you know, being ignorant to like not knowing too
much about like the pet industry nutrition that like when
I first, you know, started feeding Foxy kibble until I
learned more that I actually, because of the label being
as confusing as it was, that I was unintentionally underfeeding
her a cup or day of kibble according to you
like what she actually needed in calories when I started
calculating it out. And I think that's one of those
other things that a lot of people don't realize that.
On the back of the label, it's like here's a
you know, the starting amount of how much calories you
should have, but it doesn't take into account age breed,
like are they spay or neutered, or their activity level.
And so based off of what I was feeding for Foxy,
I was like, oh my gosh, I'm starving my dog
and I didn't even know it. And this is what's
actually the same thing that happened with this cat parent
after we kind of looked at how many calories this
cat needed, that they just were unintentionally underfeeding their cat
and wondering why I was so hungry. And so I
think through that process of not only learning like the
calorie aspect of it and even you know that, that
gives me more knowledge to then feed Foxy appropriately. And
so once I started feeding her to write amount of
food and even the foods that really served her, it's
like she has energy for days. So it's one of
those things that man, their personality can change. And I
mean I even think about it from a human perspective
that it's like, if you have like a chronic gut ache,
you're not really gonna feel well and you might be
more irritable or have a behavior that is not necessarily
your true personality just because you aren't feeling well. So
it's kind of the same with pets and like even behaviors, Right,
we've got to take that into account that if a
behavior is showing up, it might be nutritionally related because
like their gut hurts or they just can't communicate what
that is. So if really we can maybe put those
two together and be like, hey, maybe this behavior is
related to this fix that root cause that they might
be a different personality once they start feeling better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just amazing to see what can happen when
the body comes back into balance, that other things can
begin to heal, their own natural healing system can kick in.
You know, it's it's just an extraordinary journey. And you know,
I want to just remind people that if you're gonna
you're thinking about this journey, it doesn't have to be
It shouldn't be one hundred percent overnight. We're talking about
a gradual process. You can ease into it. You know,
just maybe twenty percent of home cooked or twenty five
percent to begin for the first week and see how
the animal's doing. And gradually increase to a level that's
good for you. And again, you know, Danny and I
both agree that doesn't have to be one hundred percent.
You do the best that you can with the resources
that you have. And sometimes I open a can, but
it's not the can that you're going to see on
the shelf. You know, I am willing to pay a
premium price and it's going to be maybe a tablespoonful
out of that can, and the rest is going to
be that homemade meat that I've made or some other elements.
And I just got a bread machine and they love
the crust. You know, It's just it's just they like
to sit there and watch me eating. You can leave
it me a piece? Is that piece for me? You're
not gonna eat that last piece, are you?
Speaker 3: They almost become like bougie once you give them like
this home cooks me all, they're like kind of stick
their nose about anything else.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: So for people who are looking to get star, what
are some simple tips to ease into homemade that you
would like to offer?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you really like hit it on the
head right there, essentially of like you know, it's not
an all or non situation. If you want to go
all home cook, that's great, and I think there's benefits
to that, but like there's also great you know, meeting
you where you're at, and there are some kibbles that I,
like I said, would recommend more than others. And so
it's just it's kind of like even in my human
clients that sometimes it's a matter of like if we
even take one fast food meal and put that into
a home cooked meal, you're doing one percent better than
you were before. Or even like hey, maybe instead of
those fries, get aside a side salad or a broccoli.
It's like these small changes can really change the trajectory
over a long period of time of what you're actually
helping them with their health and wellness, and they're really
overall longevity of life, and because they don't live as
long as us, we want them to live as long
as possible. So I guess it's just really in that
moment of like giving yourself grace as you're learning these things,
and also just like finding out what they like as well.
I think a lot of the time, you know, like
I feed I think I actually fed Foxy beats. This
was a while back, and I was kind of like,
is she gonna eat it or not? And she ate it?
But then I give her like something else and she
like spit that out. So I think in those moments
that it's like give that time and space to that
moment and then like kind of meet yourself whether you're
at either financially or even just time energy, right of
like how much time can I invest into home cooking
or what that even looks like, and just yeah, provide
that extra nutrition for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful, wonderful. Well, it's such an exciting world, you know.
I remember I did I have one podcast I interviewed
a veterinarian. He was a holistic veterinarian in the fifties,
and so he was way ahead of his time, and
he recognized that post surgical that the animals would get
much better faster if he gave them real, homemade human food,
and this began him on his journey. And another veterinarian
I talked to who was in medical school in the seventies,
and he said, when he was in medical school in
the seventies, one in what was it now, it was
like one in a hundred dogs would get cancer. And
he was always older age dogs with never younger dogs.
And now it's like one in four. I mean, it's
like it's so insane the difference. And I remember, I
think was Alexandra Horowitz talked about so many dogs actually
live in the wild around the world, and you know,
they're getting scraps and eating dead things and like every
you know, eating this, God knows what they're eating, right,
and they live longer than the dogs that are on
commercial pet food. And they've been some studies with the
wild dogs. They would offer them kibble. These are dogs
that are on the street fighting for their food every day.
Offer them kibble, and most of them turned it down.
The lower brands, you know, they're really the grocery store brands,
those great big bags.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: So everybody, you know, of course, do the best that
you can. You know, we recognize that everybody has different considerations.
But if you can just you know, every once so while,
if you're making a hamburg or make one for your dog.
Speaker 3: On and even just looking back on the ingred An
list that it's like, if your kibble does say meat meal,
then maybe consider switching to one that at least states
the protein so you're a little bit closer to like, hey,
I know there's actually chicken in it. And then because
marketing is very deceiving for pet food and the pet
food industry is that they can also put like chicken
flavor and not have any chicken in the actual product.
So it's just very aware of what that is. And
I actually teach a lot even with my pet clients now,
of like going through the label and being like, well, hey,
maybe you should even if it does say chicken, there's
like chicken meal or chicken buy product, and all of
those are actually different parts of the animal. And so
it's really being aware of like, well, what is actually
being put into this kibble, and that I feel good
at all feeding to my pet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Well how can people get a hold
of you? Do you do consultations online? You all over
the world or how do you work? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So if you so, Yes, I do consultations and all
of those are virtuals so that I can work with
as many people as possible. So if you go to
www dot Sunbright Wellness dot com, you can like sign
up for any service there that I do, whether it's
like calorie count and just figuring out how much calories
your pet needs all the way to if you want
a home cook, then I make sure that's nutritional any
balanced for your pet, and really finding foods that will
help support their nutrition or whatever is going on in
their health situation. And even if it's like reviewing your
current like kibble and seeing if that's actually going to
be appropriate at that time, or maybe even finding a
kibble more appropriate for what's going on with the situation.
So I kind of do a lot of different things,
but I am but eventually I'm actually trying to put
both humans and pet nutrition together and as like a
program itself, so that it's like, hey, your pet can
be your accountability partner for not only if you're going
to make broccoli for yourself, might as well make some
broccoli for your doggar you know, your cat or whatever
that is. And kind of writing that together and that
incentives fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, Danny's been delightful to have you on this show.
Thank you for the good work you're doing for people
and the animals who share their lives.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for all the work you're doing, and
thank you so much for having me on the podcast
Out of Blas.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, bye. So now we'll see you
in the next episode.
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