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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Dan, the fight

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<v Speaker 1>has just begun. Glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Three or three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 2>the number techs d A N five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 3>So much to dive into today locally.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to get your tips on, want to get your

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<v Speaker 2>tips on how to avoid these horrific fatal crashes involving

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<v Speaker 2>livestock at livestock that does happen as well, but more

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<v Speaker 2>likely in these urban areas such as the.

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<v Speaker 3>Front range of Denver Wildlife. Crossing the road.

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<v Speaker 2>We just saw a woman killed in a collision with

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<v Speaker 2>a moose C. Four seventy and the Denver Metro another

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<v Speaker 2>woman a couple of days ago, you know, killed in

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<v Speaker 2>a rollover avoiding a deer, et cetera. And then I know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we get into our audience up in the mountains

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<v Speaker 2>where I happen to be broadcasting from today, obviously you've

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<v Speaker 2>got your own brand of wildlife challenges up here. So

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<v Speaker 2>what tips do you have as a driver, And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a tougher one, right because no matter how careful

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<v Speaker 2>you or I are out there, all of the sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have something right in front of you. So

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<v Speaker 2>just wondering whether any of the veterans over the years

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<v Speaker 2>have come up with with any ways to protect themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in these situations, whether it's a gadget or a tactic

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<v Speaker 2>or anything you may have, because these are so incredibly tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 3>I have a tip, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's a challenging one, right because because

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<v Speaker 2>these these safer cars are often more expensive, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>only so much money, you know, every payday, and so

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<v Speaker 2>that's another challenge there. So we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that because it's one of those things that in danger

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<v Speaker 2>each and every one of us, and more importantly, our

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones, every single day. And we've had these two

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<v Speaker 2>very recent tragedies in the Denver Metro and the moose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who would have expected a moose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on C. Four seventy, you know, up by park Meadow.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get into that speaking of safety and immediate

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<v Speaker 2>threats to you and your family, particularly if you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. You know, we'll talk some about Krakawana. They

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<v Speaker 2>used to call it marijuana and Colorado it's now Krakawana

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<v Speaker 2>and the horrors of that, and we'll have some real

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<v Speaker 2>life examples, but it will tie into a very important

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<v Speaker 2>story in the Denver Gazette. And listen, if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>a regular reader of the Gazette, you've got Colorado Springs

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<v Speaker 2>and Denver suggest you take a look at it because

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<v Speaker 2>it is really really high level reporting and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a long tradition of that for a long time, starting

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<v Speaker 2>with the Colorado Springs versions. So they've got a great

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<v Speaker 2>story on overdose deaths increasing in Denver, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>does not surprise you as you listen today, right with

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<v Speaker 2>everything else going on in Denver, but it's still horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you get into the numbers, it's actually mind

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<v Speaker 2>blowing how many people are dying of overdoses in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't even get into how many other people

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<v Speaker 2>are harmed, but thank God, are saved. So want to

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<v Speaker 2>drill down on causes and fixes, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what we're all worried about.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, is first each of these innocent lives lost, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you think of the families who are traumatized beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>but also it becoming the new normal, because that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the big cancerous dangers of the left, right, that

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<v Speaker 2>all this horrible stuff just becomes the new normal, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way the left wants it. Right is just

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<v Speaker 2>accepted by society, and so no, we cannot allow that

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. We have too much, too much respect for

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<v Speaker 2>the value of each life. Speaking of which, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>segment with doctor Catherine Wheeler, former abortionist now Saves Lives,

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<v Speaker 2>will she'll join us as she does every Thursday at

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<v Speaker 2>five oh six. And the great thing is that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a time we devote to discussing that the medical

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<v Speaker 2>facts as they apply to the abortion issue, because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we've been debating for years the big arguments, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>god now with Roe falling, you know that the states

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<v Speaker 2>intensity in these debates. But then we get doctor Wheeler

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<v Speaker 2>bringing in just the facts, ma'am, just the medical facts,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's such value added. As we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the civil rights issue of all of our lifetimes

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<v Speaker 2>do want to touch at some point on Columbia now

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<v Speaker 2>ponying up two hundred million to settle with the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration and rioting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know where to start on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the media nonsense of the day, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>plan to start with. Did you see that peace in

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<v Speaker 2>the Denver Post where they went out of their way

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<v Speaker 2>to report on the South Park mockery of Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>their season opener last night? But obviously the reason the

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<v Speaker 2>Post did it is they wanted to write about the

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<v Speaker 2>part of the South Park hit that was aimed at

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's private parts. So when it gets when it

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<v Speaker 2>gets to the point I'm debating whether it even quoted

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<v Speaker 2>or not. When it gets to the points, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the Denver Post writing a news story just so they

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<v Speaker 2>can use a mocking phrase about Trump's penis. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've reached a new depth there, right, But that is

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<v Speaker 2>in fact what happened, But it may have been topped

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<v Speaker 2>by ABC News at the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's such a tale of two cities, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got our local news room, which is phenomenal, world class,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've got the ABC National News which is garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just leftist propaganda almost every day. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>we heard at the top of the show today was

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on Trump to release quote the full Epstein file,

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<v Speaker 2>when any like kindergarten journalist would understand is no such

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<v Speaker 2>thing as quote the full Epstein file. What is ABC

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<v Speaker 2>really suggesting that the Trump administration should be releasing a

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<v Speaker 2>video and stills of child porn because that would be

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Epstein file or the names of innocent

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<v Speaker 2>people in the sense that they may have been in

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein's orbit but had no involvement whatsoever in any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of child rape or anything like that. Is that really

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<v Speaker 2>what ABC suggesting? But yeah, we all know what ABC's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Three all three, seven, one, three eight, two five five,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pulse, the passing of Hulk Hogan. What's the most

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<v Speaker 2>real sport? And we're not a sports show. We just

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<v Speaker 2>talked sports during breaks. What's the most real sport out there?

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<v Speaker 2>And are there any major sports that you would consider now?

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<v Speaker 3>More like All Star wrestling?

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll throw that into the mix, and as always,

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<v Speaker 2>you can text us d an five seven, seven, three nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I've accepted that this is the normal mode of communication

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<v Speaker 2>these days in radio talk shows, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>we can do with that, right. I like it in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that we can get a lot quickly, especially

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<v Speaker 2>if textures are kind enough to be short and precise,

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<v Speaker 2>and the snarkier the better.

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<v Speaker 3>We love our haters, but also call s. I'm and

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<v Speaker 2>I love the calls, and you can get some give

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<v Speaker 2>and take and let it evolve. Three at three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 2>three eight, two five five the number. How you doing today,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, other than the passing of the Hulk, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>sure has you.

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<v Speaker 4>For people of a certain age, and that would definitely

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<v Speaker 4>include me in that wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 5>Dam I mean Hulk Hogan was it in the eighties?

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<v Speaker 4>Is a pop culture icon as a wrestler, as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a force.

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<v Speaker 5>He was Thunderlips and Rocky three.

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<v Speaker 4>You might recall that one of your favorite movies and

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<v Speaker 4>trilogies and whatever you want to call it, four and.

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<v Speaker 5>Five as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, a very sad day, maybe very reflective. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>feeling very nostalgic. I usually feel that way anyway, but

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<v Speaker 4>especially today with the loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Hulk Hogan.

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<v Speaker 2>Condolences to you, my friend, and thank you yet we

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<v Speaker 2>will play some of that sound of Hulk at the

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<v Speaker 2>last UP convention right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Was pretty epic there, so we'll get to that in

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to pop some sound early, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll jump on this story about the drug over dose

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<v Speaker 2>deats in Denver, spiking the reasons why, what are the fixs, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me get into that with this compelling sound

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<v Speaker 2>of a mother relaying the story of her Eagle Scout's

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<v Speaker 2>son and the effects of quote legalized marijuana on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Cup to Please.

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<v Speaker 6>In twenty eighteen, I celebrated the graduation of my firstborn son,

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<v Speaker 6>who was an Eagle Scout and honor student. Little did

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<v Speaker 6>I know he had begun using marijuana to deal with

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<v Speaker 6>his social anxiety as he entered college. When he came

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<v Speaker 6>home for Thanksgiving break his sophomore year, I noticed changes

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<v Speaker 6>in his behavior. He was irritable and aggressive, but I

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<v Speaker 6>was unaware that he was using THHG products until he

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<v Speaker 6>admitted to his position he was smoking.

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<v Speaker 3>When he came home for.

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<v Speaker 6>Christmas break, he started using THHC daily. He experienced his

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<v Speaker 6>first psychotic break and was hospitalized. He only tested positive

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<v Speaker 6>for THHC. He was discharged on a small dose of

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<v Speaker 6>anti psychotic medication I allowed him to return to college,

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<v Speaker 6>not then realizing the connection to THC and cannabis induced

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<v Speaker 6>psychosis or CIP. Then COVID happened and he came home

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<v Speaker 6>and got a job. There was a vapor smoke shop

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<v Speaker 6>near our home, and he started using the delta ATHG

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<v Speaker 6>products sold there, which are chemically derived from him. He

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<v Speaker 6>soon became addicted, which also led to severe personality changes.

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<v Speaker 6>He was again admitted to the hospital and then an

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<v Speaker 6>intensive outpatient program. He returned to college the following semester. Howherever,

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<v Speaker 6>he failed because he continued use of THHG products caused

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<v Speaker 6>memory issues, confusion, and a decrease in his cognitive abilities, so.

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<v Speaker 3>He had to leave school.

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<v Speaker 6>He tried to work, but he just spent much of

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<v Speaker 6>his paychecks at the local a store buying delta ATHD

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<v Speaker 6>and CBD products, thinking they would help to take his

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<v Speaker 6>mind away from his psychotic symptoms he was now experiencing.

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<v Speaker 6>This led to a revolving door of hospitalizations, but none

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<v Speaker 6>of them focused on his THHD addiction or tried to

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<v Speaker 6>get him to stop. They only concentrated on stabilizing him

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<v Speaker 6>on medication. Cannabis and Douce. Psychosis has devastated our lives.

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<v Speaker 6>My son's brain health has been severely damaged, and our

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<v Speaker 6>family has been traumatized. I now live on edge, not

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<v Speaker 6>knowing if my son will ever be mentally stable again.

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<v Speaker 6>I've not found any treatment programs as specialized or focused

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<v Speaker 6>on CIP that are affordable or that our insurance will

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<v Speaker 6>pay for. I've gone into debt, tending him to out

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<v Speaker 6>of state programs and hopes that his brain will have

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<v Speaker 6>a chance to heal. My son still has not grasped

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that THHG products are the cause of his

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<v Speaker 6>brain creating his false reality. Today, doctors diagnose him as schizophrenic,

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<v Speaker 6>but typical antipsychotics don't take away the damage caused by

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<v Speaker 6>their THHD products. My son is twenty four years old

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<v Speaker 6>and living in his own private hell, all because he

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<v Speaker 6>started smoking weed. I wish legislators would understand the danger

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, Dan, everywhere I drive, I hold the horn down.

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<v Speaker 2>which three other vehicles then hit in one vehicle, the

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<v Speaker 3>And who could blame her?

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<v Speaker 2>So if anybody has any tips, I'd thought I saw

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of scam. But anybody has any good tips,

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<v Speaker 2>we are wide open to that because there was another

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<v Speaker 2>And we've talked about it before and we will again.

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to do? But far more often, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that kind of stuff is a society.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to start getting smart and we got to

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<v Speaker 3>And if they don't kill you, they're terrifying you out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are sentencing of these people has to be many,

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<v Speaker 2>are we as a society stupid? You know, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have to be anywhere near as expensive because

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<v Speaker 2>But this option of just saying, oh no, there's going

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Society would do that some more Texters, Dan, is

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan of Columbia forking over two hundred million? I know

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 8>He's using a very big stick and heading people over

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<v Speaker 8>up on principle, taking the risk.

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<v Speaker 3>What principle they're time? No, you don't. I love what

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, Columbia is not paying two hundred million

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll get to that sound after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>So so many great things Trump's doing that will last

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast?

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<v Speaker 9>They're high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's

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<v Speaker 9>quote psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just wonder three.

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<v Speaker 2>sized deer and smaller animals. If you face those on

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<v Speaker 2>the roadway, do not swerve. If you're above forty miles

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<v Speaker 2>per hour, break aggressively and prepare for impact. And I

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<v Speaker 2>Sea four seventy the other day doing what I would

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<v Speaker 2>have done, right, instinctively swerving to avoid a deer that

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly appeared on the roadway. Right, I mean animal lovers,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe what I need to do is just

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<v Speaker 2>that animal appears in the roadway. You know, I've just

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<v Speaker 2>got to break hard and prepare for impact rather than swerve. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>our text draws the line at medium sized deer and

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<v Speaker 2>smaller animals, the suggestion being that you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know at what point an animal is

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<v Speaker 2>Be killed if you hit it. I would have to

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<v Speaker 2>think that that in a crash worthy enough vehicle, you're

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<v Speaker 2>and probably vast majority listening in our animal lovers, the

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sorry, but better the deer than you. You

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<v Speaker 4>slam on your brakes. Quite frankly, yeah, well, and you

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be there just aren't bumper stickers around anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 2>best way to handle those situations? Dan, I was driving

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<v Speaker 2>and I still hit one. You can't avoid all collisions

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult, but avoiding the urge to drive off the

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's very very well said.

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<v Speaker 2>But then how do you I think the only way

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome that just instinctive reaction is to drive with

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<v Speaker 2>that conscious mindset and put it on that pre flight

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<v Speaker 2>checklist that animal roadway, don't swerve.

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<v Speaker 3>But then again, at what size what size creature?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, does the crash itself you know, become more serious? Yeah,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just going to depend on vehicle, right

430
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<v Speaker 2>size of vehicle, all the other circumstances, and so much

431
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<v Speaker 2>of it comes down to this general advice.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You already know it, but I feel obligated to give

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<v Speaker 2>it since each and every day in my practice, I'm

435
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<v Speaker 2>dealing with these my law practice, I'm dealing with these

436
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<v Speaker 2>horrible tragedies right where somebody was alive one second and

437
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<v Speaker 2>now they're not, Or they were healthy one second and

438
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<v Speaker 2>now they're impaired for life. And the quality of the

439
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<v Speaker 2>vehicle a person is in makes such a difference. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just and I know people already do this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd recommend accessing every source of information you can about

442
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<v Speaker 2>the safety of the kind of vehicle you're looking to buy,

443
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<v Speaker 2>new or used before you buy.

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<v Speaker 3>It, because it makes such a dramatic difference. And we

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<v Speaker 3>have a texture.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw Ryan who said they heard that somebody who

447
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<v Speaker 2>died in one of these crashes we've been talking about

448
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<v Speaker 2>did not have a seat belt.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's true or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I do know, just for my own practice

451
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<v Speaker 2>in forty one years of doing wrongful death cases, is

452
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<v Speaker 2>that your chance of dying in a wreck goes down

453
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<v Speaker 2>astronomically if you're wearing a seat belt. And now I've

454
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<v Speaker 2>still handled many, many, many cases where somebody wearing a

455
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<v Speaker 2>seat belt was killed but just your odds are so

456
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<v Speaker 2>much better with a belt on, whether it's death or

457
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<v Speaker 2>or a serious injury. But then you look at all

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<v Speaker 2>of these paralysis cases and all these horrific injuries inflicted

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<v Speaker 2>when people do have a belt on. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is whatever you can do to get you and your

461
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<v Speaker 2>loved ones into the safest vehicle you can, it really

462
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<v Speaker 2>makes a big difference. Especially Ryan, what is this explosion

463
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<v Speaker 2>of people going over one hundred miles an hour, weaving

464
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<v Speaker 2>in and out of traffic, you know, in these and

465
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<v Speaker 2>there's no message intended here beyond the statement of fact.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in these cars that probably cost somebody a

467
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<v Speaker 2>few hundred bucks, you know what I mean. And it

468
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't matter if somebody was in a Hugatti or was

469
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<v Speaker 2>in one one of those cars that cost a few

470
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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. But there's an explosion of the ladder going on. Well,

471
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<v Speaker 2>where do you think that comes from?

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<v Speaker 3>Have no idea? Okay, I think you do. I've never

473
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<v Speaker 3>heard you say I have no idea that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, there's a lot of things are out of

475
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<v Speaker 5>my depth. Yeah, outside my wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, And just based on what I

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<v Speaker 3>do in my own practice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think an awful lot of this comes back to,

479
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<v Speaker 2>you know, legalization of drugs comes back to you get

480
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<v Speaker 2>particularly a lot of younger people. But it's not limited

481
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<v Speaker 2>to that. You just have we see so many more

482
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<v Speaker 2>people impaired at like seven or.

483
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<v Speaker 3>Eight in the morning. You know, it's just changed so

484
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<v Speaker 3>much in Colorado since once Colorado became known as the

485
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<v Speaker 3>legalized drug state.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Right, you attract a whole lot of people, and then

487
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<v Speaker 2>you have people born here who then get into their

488
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<v Speaker 2>teens and all of it's green lighted, and it just

489
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<v Speaker 2>causes so much more chass on the roadway. I mean,

490
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<v Speaker 2>look at the Denver Gazette story, Denver sees twenty percent

491
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<v Speaker 2>increase in drug overdose deaths over past year. Drug overdose

492
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<v Speaker 2>deaths both pardon me, drug overdose rates both fatal and

493
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<v Speaker 2>non fatal, increased by more than twenty percent in Denver

494
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<v Speaker 2>through July of this year, the highest levels the city

495
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<v Speaker 2>has seen since twenty twenty three, when nearly six hundred

496
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<v Speaker 2>people died from drug use.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not immediately clear if this trend.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Is occurring statewide or only hammering Colorado's most populous city.

499
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<v Speaker 2>If the trend persist, Denver would be on track to

500
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<v Speaker 2>surpass the number of non fatal cases in twenty twenty three,

501
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<v Speaker 2>when more than three thousand overdoses were reported in so

502
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<v Speaker 2>far as fatal cases. The months of March and May

503
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<v Speaker 2>this year recorded the highest number of overdose deaths in

504
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<v Speaker 2>the last six years. All told, a city dashboard showed

505
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<v Speaker 2>a twenty two point seven percent spike in non fatal

506
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<v Speaker 2>overdoses through July.

507
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<v Speaker 3>And then it gets into a bunch of numbers.

508
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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the fatals, the increase was from two

509
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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to two seventy three over that same period.

510
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<v Speaker 2>And then they quote somebody in the story makes a

511
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<v Speaker 2>good point. Imagine if this many people were dying from

512
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<v Speaker 2>homicides or car accidents, I'm perplexed why it's not getting

513
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<v Speaker 2>more attention? Great point, And why do you think it's

514
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>not getting more attention now? Starting point is the lefties

515
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<v Speaker 2>who own and operate Denver. They don't want to get

516
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<v Speaker 2>an attention right. The lefties who own and operate the state,

517
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<v Speaker 2>they don't want it getting attention right because it goes

518
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<v Speaker 2>right back to their failures of policy. But think about that,

519
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<v Speaker 2>Think about that massive body count. What do you think

520
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<v Speaker 2>is causing it what's the fix three all three seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three A two five five the number tex DN

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<v Speaker 2>five seven seven three nine.

523
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<v Speaker 3>You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You know like sixties used to be and seventy you

526
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<v Speaker 3>know many like fifties.

527
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<v Speaker 5>Andy Connall has interviewed William Shatner.

528
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<v Speaker 3>And he's what ninety three always okay, and.

529
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<v Speaker 5>He sounds your age, no joke. Yeah, he even has

530
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<v Speaker 5>a compliment to him too, not as oh no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And and then as you know, my uncle, we have

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<v Speaker 2>him on the Showeth the Priest in Chicago ninety three

534
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<v Speaker 2>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Shatner could have like a sitcom together that the

536
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<v Speaker 4>same age. And your your uncle is remarkable, Dan, just

537
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<v Speaker 4>like William Shatner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know he still does three messes a

539
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<v Speaker 2>week and he packs the place unreal because he's always

540
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<v Speaker 2>had it down, you know, the eight minutes sermons.

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<v Speaker 3>He has one key point he's going to make. He

542
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<v Speaker 3>has a great joke.

543
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<v Speaker 2>He talks about the bears or the bulls or the

544
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<v Speaker 2>socks of the cubs, and he's done, and people love

545
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<v Speaker 2>that and they walk away getting the point he wanted

546
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<v Speaker 2>to make yeah, three or three someone three eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five text d A N five seven seven three.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to get to this sound in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of these textures coming in, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>we played very compelling sound earlier from a mom whose

551
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<v Speaker 2>child is devastated by marijuana. You know this THHC psychosis,

552
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<v Speaker 2>which is so common. And then you get these texters

553
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<v Speaker 2>who write in and say, yeah, I feel so bad

554
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<v Speaker 2>for the mom, but where's the proof it was the

555
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<v Speaker 2>THHC that caused the psychosis? And I assume this text

556
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<v Speaker 2>is very sincere in their question. Now, what we often

557
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<v Speaker 2>hear from the industry is this BS defense of oh,

558
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<v Speaker 2>correlation but not causation garbage. Wait a second, you know

559
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<v Speaker 2>University of Real Life, that's where the best studies come from.

560
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<v Speaker 3>And what you got is you got in this example

561
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<v Speaker 3>and it's documented. You got this kid, he's doing.

562
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<v Speaker 2>Great in every way, then all of a sudden he

563
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<v Speaker 2>starts using marijuana, and then all of a sudden he

564
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<v Speaker 2>starts having this psychosis and everything else and the only

565
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<v Speaker 2>drug and his systems THC. And I'm not saying the texture,

566
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<v Speaker 2>but for the dope dealers, the so called legalized dope dealers.

567
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<v Speaker 2>No amount of proof is ever going to be enough, right,

568
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<v Speaker 2>because that's how they make their money, That's how they

569
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<v Speaker 2>buy their ferraris and their big mansions. Is all these

570
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<v Speaker 2>kids now whose lives are ruined and their parents are

571
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<v Speaker 2>heartbroken and in all this human tragedy out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Three three seven, three eight two five five five seven

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<v Speaker 3>seven three nine. Hey, let's go to this.

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<v Speaker 2>A good story from CBS four about this issue we've

575
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<v Speaker 2>been spending a lot of time on, which is this

576
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<v Speaker 2>enormously dangerous loophole the left foot in Colorado law, where

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<v Speaker 2>you can have somebody committing all these serious crimes, but

578
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<v Speaker 2>if they're not mentally competent to stand trial, no got

579
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<v Speaker 2>to cut them a brake.

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<v Speaker 3>That's garbage play. The piece will be dropped, I guess.

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<v Speaker 8>The suspect usually trying to kidnap a child on a

582
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<v Speaker 8>playground in a Rapo County last year.

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<v Speaker 10>The District Attorney's office says its.

584
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<v Speaker 3>Hands are tied.

585
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<v Speaker 10>Terry Creek Schools released edited video showing a man trying

586
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<v Speaker 10>to snatch a child from the elementary school during recess.

587
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<v Speaker 10>This happened in April of twenty twenty four. That's suspect

588
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<v Speaker 10>Solomon Gallaghan has a long criminal history and a long

589
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<v Speaker 10>history of mental health problems as well. The report Gabrielle

590
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<v Speaker 10>Vidal explains why that complicates this case.

591
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<v Speaker 11>There was a lot of frustration among families and elected

592
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<v Speaker 11>officials who spoke outside the Rapaho County Justice Center just

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<v Speaker 11>five days before the eighteen Judicial District Attorney's office is

594
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<v Speaker 11>set to dismiss charges against Solomon Gallaghan for the intempted

595
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<v Speaker 11>abduction of a child on a playground last year. We

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<v Speaker 11>spoke with the Office of Civil and Forensic Mental Health

597
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<v Speaker 11>earlier this week, who say a new legislation enacted last

598
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<v Speaker 11>year requires a court to dismiss charges against someone whom

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<v Speaker 11>the state has determined cannot be restored to competency in

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<v Speaker 11>order to stand trial. But the law also provides a

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<v Speaker 11>pathway for the DA's office to pursue civil commitment and

602
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<v Speaker 11>house Gallagan at a mental hospital. The parents worried that

603
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<v Speaker 11>will only keep him off the streets for so long.

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<v Speaker 12>As I understand it, max is a year, right, So

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<v Speaker 12>we have a year and then they're out. If there's

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<v Speaker 12>not a space at the mental facility, then essentially the

607
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<v Speaker 12>goes And that's the big fear here.

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<v Speaker 11>We'll share more reaction from elected officials and families, as

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<v Speaker 11>well as one father's mission to preventing crimes like this

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<v Speaker 11>from happening in his community in the future. That's all

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<v Speaker 11>come out tonight at ten on CBS Colorado in a

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<v Speaker 11>Rapeo County Gabriel Vite I'll cover and call it.

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<v Speaker 5>A first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how did we ever get to this point? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's such insanity and I don't mean to

616
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<v Speaker 3>sound like a broken record, but I still marvel at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Will it ever get bad enough? I a the left?

618
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<v Speaker 3>Obviously this state is headed in one direction right under

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<v Speaker 3>leftist rule?

620
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<v Speaker 2>Will it ever get bad enough that people elect Republicans statewide?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see it get bad. I want

622
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<v Speaker 2>to see it be good. But we all know where

623
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<v Speaker 2>this is headed, right. It's just gravity. You cannot do

624
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<v Speaker 2>garbage like that. You cannot do this stuff the left

625
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<v Speaker 2>does and make us so radically pro criminal, an anti

626
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<v Speaker 2>innocent person without the weight of that just pulling you

627
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<v Speaker 2>into the sewer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now you know my theory, Ryan, and you've never

629
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<v Speaker 3>told me if you agree with it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But my theory is that, yes, yes, you know, this

631
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<v Speaker 2>spell will be broken and the way it's going to

632
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<v Speaker 2>be broken is there's going to be that one GOP

633
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<v Speaker 2>candidate who catches fire statewide and wins one of the

634
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<v Speaker 2>big state wide races, might be centator, might be governor,

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<v Speaker 2>and then then will hit a tipping point right that

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<v Speaker 2>spell will be broken. The money will think, hey, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to win in Colorado. That person who wins

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<v Speaker 2>the state wide office becomes the face of the party.

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<v Speaker 2>Because think about it. Think about it right now, the

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado GOP has an awful lot of talent in it,

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<v Speaker 2>an awful lot, but it doesn't have a face of

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<v Speaker 2>the party statewide.

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<v Speaker 3>And think about what a crippling, you know, loss that

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<v Speaker 3>is for a party. But that will change.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take the one candidate the right circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>catching fire, and then I think the whole dynamic starts

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<v Speaker 2>to shift. Let's get back to some of a great Texters,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, talk about value added. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard her before, doctor Catherine Wheeler joins us every Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>at five six and she used to perform abortions. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a medical doctor, obviously, and she joins us to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the medical realities of abortion.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she is now saving lives, and those are.

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<v Speaker 2>The greatest heroes in the pro life movement, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud to have been a small part of for many,

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<v Speaker 2>many years. And that is the people who've had abortions

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<v Speaker 2>and the people who used to conduct abortions who are

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<v Speaker 2>now out there, you know, helping to save children. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the ultimate heroes in the pro life movement.

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<v Speaker 2>And always just great to be able to talk medical

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<v Speaker 2>fact with her because I'm just a firm believer Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>that these enormous strides that have been made in the

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<v Speaker 2>pro life movement, all the lives saved over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>all these races one you know that at the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of that has been the advent of ultrasound technology, which

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<v Speaker 2>now advanced so far right, But even in the primitive

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<v Speaker 2>days of ultrasound, whoever walked up to Ryan Schulan and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look at my fetus.

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<v Speaker 3>Never, No, they hand you the picture and they say

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<v Speaker 3>look at my baby. That blew up the big life

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<v Speaker 3>from the left.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we get from doctor Wheeler these more advanced

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<v Speaker 2>medical facts and.

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<v Speaker 3>It just it helps, it helps save lives. Its value

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<v Speaker 3>added Doctor Wheeler next on the Dan Kapla Show,