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Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised. We got someone or something growing around out here?

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Speaker 2: Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Speaker 3: Did you see what it was?

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Speaker 1: Was it a person or an animal?

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Speaker 4: Or I can't go?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know it's that my thunder light came on

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and I did.

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Speaker 5: Happened to Glenn and see this thing running across the yard?

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Speaker 1: A good sight man or something works like a man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years,

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we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to

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gain insight and proof around the existence of this mysterious entity.

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Speaker 1: Jesus bar hello, get somebody out here.

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Speaker 6: What's going to announce?

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Speaker 5: There's got to revention about six foot nine?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, easy announce there, Yeah, I'm working right, Ah, okay,

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hand on, yeah, got it, bigger?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What's he doing in your yard?

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Speaker 2: Join us as we continue into the investigation of the

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Sasquatch experience.

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Speaker 6: It's been all kind of something tonight, and folks, as

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we get this show kicked off onto the air, I'm

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sean Forker. That's James Baker, and our guest tonight, Jimmy Tungate.

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It's great to have him with us. Jimmy is the

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host and field investigator behind The off Road x Files,

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a podcast that explores crypted encounters, pronormal activity, and unexplained

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phenomena happening where few dare to travel deep in the

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back roads, trails and wilderness of America. Originally from Central

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Texas and now living in Washington State, Jimmy brings a

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unique blend of curiosity, adventure, and investigative grit to his work.

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His career path has been anything but an ordinary, ranging

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from commercial fishermen in Alaska, a professional cowboy radio DJ,

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to his current role as a senior risk manager for

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a leading global cloud service and fraud prevention. Outside of

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the corporate world, Jimmy is an award winning landscape photographer,

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a seasoned off road trail guide, and leader of Bad

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Company Overland. He also serves as a brand ambassador for

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on X off Road set Power refrigerators and Marimoto lighting.

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Jimmy's personal encounters, including his own sasquatch sighting, fuel his

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passion for uncovering the truth behind legendary creatures and mysterious happenings.

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With Off Road x Files, he combined storytelling, witness interviews,

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and on the ground field investigations to create a documentary

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style experience that draws listeners into the unknown and folks.

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That's our guest tonight, Jimmy and Tonggate. Jimmy, thanks for

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coming on with us as we're getting right into the

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show tonight. No no no bluffing around, We're just getting

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right into it.

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Speaker 5: Awesome. Thank you so much for having me, Sean and team.

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And I just want to say, out of all the

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podcasts that use the nine to one one intro call,

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I'm so happy that you use the part that says,

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what's he doing? He's looking at me like I don't

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hear anybody else do that, And that's like the whole

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best part of that whole CLL that.

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Speaker 6: Is is it not like this is something about that

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it's looking at me? Oh oh oh okay, yeah, you know,

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we tried to do a whole show on that nine

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to one one call in itself, Jimmy, and that's you know,

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out in the Pacific Northwest, out in the area you're

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you're from. Definitely a fascinating, fascinating story, but you know,

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one that's kind of left up in the air to

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where it ended.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not much information out there about it. I

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know a couple of other shows have tried to, you know,

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treat it as a topic, and there's just not much

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out there. So, but it's definitely a fascinating call and

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one of the one of the interesting things from here

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in the in the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 6: How about it? Pacific Northwest, man, it's an interesting spot.

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And Jimmy, one thing I like to ask all our

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guests right from the beginning is when did your interest

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and not just Bigfoot, but like the cryptozoological to paranormal,

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Speaker 5: So for me, as a young boy, always left mysteries

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and the scholastic books on the Lockness monster and say

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about the Brown Rock harry Man, and that's what they

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call it there, the hairy Man, the Wooly Booker, the

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booger Man. But I had no idea that we're referencing

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big old Maasquatch back then. And my parents would tell me,

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you know, like little Jimmy, make sure you're home before dark,

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or the booger Man's gonna get you here, or that

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you know, the wooly Boogeruh. But I absolutely loved the

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and they occasionally, you know, touch on Bigfoot, but I

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just like, I love mysteries in general.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, one of the I guess that's one

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of the you know, commonalities Jimmy that a lot of

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us share is you know that Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries,

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you know, and learning through those shows that you know,

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that it's everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. That and and also like you know, the legend

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of Boggy Creek came out when I was a kid,

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and I remember going and seeing that at the drive

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in theater in the back of the truck, and I

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was like, you know, holy cow, this thing is out there.

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but that was in Arkansas, not Central Texas.

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Speaker 5: But I also like, remember Harryman. There's a Harryman Road

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in a round Rock, Texas where I'm from, and I

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remember driving down that road when I was a kid, uh,

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in the dark, because we had friends that lived out

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that way, and we also had one of my uncles

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lived out there for a time and driving down that

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old speaky sea lane road flowing over the top and

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the story for the Hairy Man, Someone's going to reach

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in the back of the truck and just snatch me

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right out of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we worried about that when we drive those kind

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Speaker 5: We really did.

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Speaker 6: Some of these back roads up this way or no joke,

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and uh, you know, I get that that feeling. And

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of course, you know, you guys had the stories, you know,

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the not real stories, but the Texas Chainsaw Master based

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on a true story, and uh, you get even a

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lot more, uh, you know, fear inducing situations out that way.

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my whole life. Her grandparents owned that house that it

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was filmed. Small World that was actually filmed in Round Rock.

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was based on was really close to where my dad

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that whole mythology to the Chainsaw massacre and that was

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a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: So it's just naturally you gravitated towards all this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, getting scared, and I'm sure we'll get to it.

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Last night, I just came back from going down to

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visit Sweet Home, Oregon, and got back yesterday and went

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camping Saturday night, and we're out in the middle of

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a forest on a for service road and the moon

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is coming up. You know, it's very picturesque. He's coming

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up above the forest service road through the trees, absolutely gorgeous.

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up on the tripod, take two pictures, and I hear

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something that sounds like a very loud croak, and I'm like, huh,

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it doesn't exactly sound like a bullfrog, and I don't

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think there's any bullfrogs around here. So I asked my

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friend that I was with, you know, that's her research area.

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and so a few seconds later, Harriet again, but it's moved,

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and it's moved a distance that a frog wouldn't be

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capable of. And then it turned into grunts. And this

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went on for a good twenty twenty five minutes. I've

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listened to the first hour of audio. I had a

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recorder deployed in the trees that picked up the grunts.

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was a little scary.

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Speaker 6: No doubt, No doubt. I mean one of the things

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I appreciated about you, Jimmy. And you know we've become,

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you know, rather familiar through Facebook, but you know, you

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get out there, you go to some pretty cool places

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to do some research. And that's one of the fascinating

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things I find that you know, you're getting out there

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and doing some pretty cool investigating.

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Speaker 5: Oh thank you. I really enjoy it. I absolutely love

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overlanding and off roading and it takes me to the

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areas where you know, I can look into these kinds

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of experiences the research area. So I'm research my research.

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I am the research partner of Craig Yownie with Pacific

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Northwest Sasquatch Research Group and he's the host of Squatch

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Vesk and Kelso, and we met the very beginning of

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the year, hit it off, figured out we live really

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close together, like maybe twenty minutes, and so he invited

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me out to his research area and it kind of

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kicked this new phase off for me. And that research

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area is about two and a half hours north of here,

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in a valley with a river that's glacier fed, a

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beautiful area. He's found tracks out there recorded, or he

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had some really good drugs. That's something that looks like

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it's potentially a asquatch black walking along the river on

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a day when it was like one hundred and thirteen

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degrees and somebody's not going to be all dressed up

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in black with a backpack or something walking down the

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river in rocks and stuff. So we can't, you know,

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can't say it's sasquatch, but it definitely looks like, you know,

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it could be. And then that area has according to

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Fish and Wildlife, I've been told one of the campgrounds

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in that area has the most reports for them for

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sasquatch activity. And then the very first night that I

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camped out there with my camp and buddy Austin. I

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didn't hear it at the time where I heard one,

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but I recorded a series of tree knocks that culminated

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in a very loud one that walked me up. And

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it sounds kind of metallic, and I hear that over

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and over from Washington and other places. Sometimes they're like

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metallic like sounds where there shouldn't be anything that's metallic.

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you look at your at your rig, your forerunner? And

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I didn't look at it real close. So we went

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downstairs and did a thorough walk around as my forerunner

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and there was a new dent on the passenger side,

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tossed at my truck.

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Speaker 6: How about that?

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Speaker 5: Pretty crazy?

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Speaker 6: Wow, Jimmy, you mentioned something about orbs, and it's a

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topic that's really starting to become prevalent. Yeah, and the

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Bigfoot field. Is there a connection between these these orbs

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of light, and you know this being entitygue creature we

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call bigfoot. What are your thoughts on that and what

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have you experienced along those lines.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad, yeah, Sean. It is like there is so

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much talk about it, so much trending focus on orbs

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these days. My first experience with an ORB was when

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house and I would go out and spend summers with him,

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and back behind his house was a little meadow and

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we would ride horses and stuff out there, and it's

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lined by trees in the big piney woods. And for

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a period of time from when I was like, you know,

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it wasn't every time, it wasn't every week, it wasn't,

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you know, every two weeks, but pretty regular I would

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see an ORB float through that metow and it would

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about the same height. It looked like, you know, five

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to six feet up. It was always about the same size. So,

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and that was probably like one hundred and fifty two

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hundred year yards maybe, and at that distance, it looked

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like the size of a big cantalog, so where it

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was it had to be like larger than a basketball.

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white hot color. Didn't bob, didn't move, It just floated

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across there, and I saw it over a period of years.

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I saw I was like, what the heck is that?

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And he's like, we don't know, we don't talk about that.

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you know, as a child, and then into my twenties

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before he died. The last time I went out there,

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I saw one, and then you know, I never had

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a chance to go back out to that property. Interestingly,

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Saturday night, when the whole thing was going on with

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what I think may have been a bear across the

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road from us. So where we're camped, there's along a

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bend on a four service road, and then across the

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road is a hillside that's the tree lined with pretty

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thick brush going uphill, and so I'm hearing the grunts

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from across there and it's already dark, but there's also

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like I'm a photographer and my passion is taking pictures,

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and so I'm looking at the sky and I'm seeing

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all these stars that I normally don't get to see

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at home, and I'm wanting to take pictures, but I'm

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also wanting to be very focused on what's going on

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and not lose my attention to that. So I'm kind

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of looking up at the sky and I saw something

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black move across the sky. I think maybe it was

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a raven or something like that, because there's some pretty

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big ones out there. But very quickly after that, as

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head back to the left, out of the corner of

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my eye, like maybe at say three point thirty four o'clock,

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I saw a light move up through the trees and

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then disappear behind them. So I don't know if that

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was an ORB or what it was, but I find

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it very interesting that, like, all this stuff is going

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on and then I see something that could be an ORB.

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they have and she had never heard of the Brown

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Mountain lights. But what she was describing to me that

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happens at the lake there at Foster Lake is they

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have lights that pulsate along the edge of the lake.

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And I'm like, have you ever heard of the brown lights?

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And she's like no. But we started talking about orbs

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and wondering, like, you know, with the flashing like that

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and the strobing, could it be a portal opening or

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something like that? Could orbs be like little portals. I

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don't know if anything's coming through them. I hope I'm

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not standing there if one does. But I would also

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love to know the answer to that.

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Speaker 6: Right, So listen, you know, personally, for me, Jimmy, I

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don't know if there's a correlation. I hate to say

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there isn't there isn't because I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Do I believe this thing to be flesh and blood? Absolutely?

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Does that mean I'm right? No, it doesn't. But I'll

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tell you from my own experiences, there's some parts to

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this that are very unusual from the orbs I've seen

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orbs I was out with. I've said this, you know

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several times I was out with my friend the Cherby's

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out in southwest Pennsylvania, Eric Altman, Tom Meehak, and we're

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sitting out there and there's just these orbs that appear

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in the trees and they just fly up and they

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move around. They're non localized, they have their own you know, positioning,

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you know, they're not controlled anything, and then they just disappear.

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And I've had just strange flashing light phenomena. Would have

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been out in the woods in the middle of the

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night in areas there's no reason there should be a

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flash of light. So I can't explain them. I've experienced them.

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Are they two separate situations going on? Potentially? But is

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it you know, coincidence that it also happens around the

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same time as uh, you know, bigfoot activity. I don't know.

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And now I know I'm going to start getting hate

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mail from people like all of a sudden, we've you know,

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but it's not and you know, it's just simply not

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the case, like I'm I'm I'm a flesh and blood

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or Jimmy. But I acknowledge that there's more to this

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than we can understand. And you know, you and you know,

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one of the things again, I appreciate about you as

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you go out and you investigate this, And I think

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folks that are more open to investigating some of the

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other paranormal phenomena, you know, have that, you know, willingness

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to acknowledge that there might be something a little bit

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more to this mystery than just a big ape, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree. So I'm also very physical creation based.

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I believe it's a physical creature or creature. I think

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there's a lot we don't under right, there are so

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many open questions throughout all of creation. But like I guess,

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one of the reasons I'm more open minded to this

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is I've had some paranormal experiences with being like physically

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touched by a spirit or something while sleeping over a

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period of time, and it would like torment me. And

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so I know that there's more to this world than

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just things that are physical, things that can be spiritual

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but also be able to interact with you physically. So

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I think that makes me maybe a little bit more

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open minded to it. I really believe that there's a

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whole lot about Bigfoot we don't understand, and I think

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everybody agrees with that there's a lot we don't understand.

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I think part of it is we left the forest

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in the woods a long time ago and became civilized,

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and we lost that grounding that we had with nature.

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But they maintained that, and so they're out there twenty

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four to seven. You know, they have to maintain night vision,

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they have to be able to move quickly, and so

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they've continued to adapt where we haven't in those ways.

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We've adapted mentally, and we've lost a lot of our

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physicality and I think because of that, there's a lot

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that we don't understand. Maybe their hair follicles have evolved

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as well. I think it's Doug Hichek has a theory

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based on an experiment that was done with UV lighting

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and flying squirrels, where you know, maybe their hair follicles

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allowed them to camouflage when they become Still, there's a

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lot of things we don't understand that may seem paranormal,

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that may be able to be explained by science, but

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we just.

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Speaker 6: We're not there yet. And I think that's a great

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point you made. You know, we talk about some of these,

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you know, potential biological adaptations, and because we don't have them,

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you know, you know, silly us, You know we you know,

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we nothing else can have it if we can't. But

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we know that's just not the case. There's some animals

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out there that have some truly amazing capabilities. When we

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talk about something like infrasound, you know there are animals

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out there, large mammals that use it. We know this

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for a fact. And but because we don't, all of

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a sudden, that's you know, that tends to you know,

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end up into the camp of WU. You know, they

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call it getting zapped or what have you. It doesn't

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have to be WU. It can be a real biological situation,

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like it doesn't have to be anything mystical though, you know,

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you go back in time and you take the stuff

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we have, now we'd be looking like wizards and magicians

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and gods to people. So exactly, it's I don't know,

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it's a tight line to walk, and that when you're

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in this research, you know, when you try not to,

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you try to take a position and try to hold

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onto it. But I think that's dangerous, Jimmy, because you're

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not opening up your mind to other evidence that's coming

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forward or other pieces to the puzzle that you're alienating

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yourself from because it doesn't fit into your own worldview,

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and I try to be open minded to a point.

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I try to be open minded. I try not to

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be an idiot. That's always a good thing, Sean, Right.

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Speaker 5: I think one of the things that helps me is

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being a fraud investigator. I'm constantly looking at a trends

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and patterns, and as soon as you figure out what

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these known actors and frousters are doing and you start

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shutting them down, they change. And so by that constant

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change and having to figure out, Okay, what's the new pattern,

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what's the new thing that they're doing today, how are

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they trying to cover up that they're using a stolen

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credit card or that they've compromised an account and are

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actively using it to abuse resources, et cetera. So you

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have to be like really on top of that and

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continue to let your thinking evolve as things change. And

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I think everybody could apply that same principle to any

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kind of endeavor like this, where things change over time

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and you don't have to believe everything, but we should

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be open minded enough to listen to it and then

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make an informed decision as best as we can.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Henry Baker, we got to take a break, Jimmy,

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we got to take our mid show break. We got

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the big Foot bullhorn to play here. It's going to

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give us a few minutes. Everybody can go to the bathroom,

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do what they have to. Listen to the bullhorn though, folks.

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That's why we put it out here for you. But

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before we go, I just want to put out a

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you know, our Squatch Out Hunger campaign is still going

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on sasquatch experience dot com from more information as soon

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as you pop up a splash page, prom chick to

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go and donate to our cause. It's a big deal.

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Twelve hundred and fifty bucks is what we're looking the raise,

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which equals about five hundred pounds of food. But more importantly,

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every dollar equals about ten meals to folks in need.

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And it's something I'm passionate about. Folks. If you've never

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dealt with food insecurities, there's I don't think a worse

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anxiety to have than when your next meal's coming from.

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And we got to do our part to just be

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a little bit better and to help our neighbors. So

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go to the link. You see I got to QR

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code posted here. Go to our website, make a donation.

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We get a long ways to go, but we're going

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to make it. And I believe in this this community,

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so we can all put our best foot forwards and

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do some really great things. When we come back, folks,

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we'll we get you know, finish up here with Jimmy,

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we'll Baker and Henry ask some questions because I've been

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hogging the microphone. But just give us a few minutes.

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We'll be right back, folks. Sasquatch experience right after this.

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Speaker 3: Ah, simb, I think Bigfoot is blurry.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's

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extra scary to me because there's a large out of

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focused monster roam in the countryside. Ron he's fuzzy.

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Speaker 1: Hell ah, Yes, it's a classic from the late great

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mitch Headbird keeping his jokes alive. Well, happy evening to

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you all on this summer sweat. I hope you're all

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doing well. And speaking of nose picking, which I know

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we weren't but we will. I did a little bit

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of research and looking into the fact of well, there's

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no reports from July of this year, not yet anyway,

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and I was kind of taken back by it. So

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I started thinking, you know, as far as grooming goes,

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I wonder if the big hairy fella uses a finger

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to pick the nose, clean, its ear, bite, its nails.

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And then I kind of looked at it into a

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little bit more of a scientific view that I would

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imagine the terrain that the bigfoot would live in forested

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and rocky areas, probably would keep the nails trimmed artificially

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just by climbing and doing other squatchy activities. But it

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still got me thinking, you know, if you saw a

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bigfoot sitting on a boulder picking its toenails, that would

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be pretty disturbing. Yeah. So here's what Wikipedia had to

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offer on the subject of well does a bigfoot groom itself?

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And it goes on to say whether or not bigfoot,

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a creature of folklore, engages in grooming behaviors is unknown, really,

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as there is no scientific evidence to confirm its existence. Bigfoot,

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also known as sas sasquatch, is generally described as a large, hairy,

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ape like creature. The idea of grooming, a behavior common

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in primates and other mammals, is purely speculative, given the

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lack of verifying information about Bigfoot's anatomy, physiology, or behavior.

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Well that's not helpful. According to the Rocky Mountain Sasquatch

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Organization's Facebook page, a question was posted, does Bigfoot have

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dirty matted hair or do they groom themselves? The reply

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is I believe they groom themselves just like other primemates do.

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And as far as the scent, most animals you sent

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to one degree or another to communicate anyway, talk amongst

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yourselves on this subject. You know, I've seen gorillas pick

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their nose. I could imagine that a bigfoot would also.

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When we come back hock Toy Hills.

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471
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472
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474
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483
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484
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and runs through Sunday August tenth at the Binton County

485
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Fairgrounds in MacArthur, Ohio. And of course many of your

486
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favorite speakers will be there for this four day event.

487
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For more information, just go to Hocking Hills Bigfoot dot com.

488
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Again Hocking Hills Bigfoot dot com. And don't forget the

489
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490
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three weeks August twenty second and twenty third. Where's it at,

491
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,799
you ask, Well, it's at Benner's Meadow Run RV Campground

492
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:12,200
in Farmington, Pennsylvania. Thanks again for listening to this edition

493
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:19,279
of the Bigfoot Bullhorn right here on Anomalous Entertainments Sasquatch Experience,

494
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,519
and as always, until we meet again, keep your toe

495
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:24,079
in the mind.

496
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 6: And as always thanks Vance for the big Footbullhorn. Vance

497
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:36,920
not with us tonight having some technical difficulties, and of

498
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640
course I'd be remiss if we didn't wish Matt Arner, Uh,

499
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,160
you know, full recovery. He's having some complications from surgery.

500
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,680
So we want Matt to get back and be in

501
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,319
good spirits and good health for us. As we move

502
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:55,240
on to Hey, Henry, there he goes, I'm trying to

503
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,839
have a video format that works, So there we go.

504
00:31:58,599 --> 00:31:59,759
We'll switch up, Henry.

505
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,759
Speaker 5: Is this story?

506
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 6: Where's Alice anyhow? Jimmy, thanks for hanging on there with us.

507
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440
We'll let you Henry. I'll let you kick it over

508
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,640
and take any questions.

509
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:15,519
Speaker 7: Okay, well, Jimmy, I'm where are you actually from?

510
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:22,319
Speaker 5: Originally originally from Rock Rock, Texas? So okay Texas. Yes.

511
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,799
Speaker 7: What do you think of the possibility of sasquatch being

512
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:32,480
in East Texas, especially in the Big Thicket Forestedarios?

513
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm positive they're there. I don't know if you've

514
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,200
ever heard of area, but that is in the Big

515
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:47,200
Thicket kind of in the sam Houston Forest, which is

516
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,480
part of the Big Piney Wood. So uh, I never

517
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,200
had an experience that I recognize as a kid out

518
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:02,640
there with one. But if you're there, can I can

519
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:08,880
I say something about grooming the bullhorn I was listening

520
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640
to that and that was awesome, by the way, vance

521
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:17,599
bigfoot and grooming. So I saw a bigfoot November tenth

522
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,000
of last year when I was driving down I ninety

523
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,759
west coming home from camping, and it was standing in

524
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,839
a river bed about seventy five yards off the highway.

525
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,240
It was totally shocked that it was standing there. But

526
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,759
one of the things that stood out to me was

527
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,279
I expected the hair to be matted and shaggy, and

528
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,880
it wasn't. The hair that was hanging off of its

529
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,960
arms was about four to six inches long, and it

530
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:51,000
was it appeared to be very well groomed. I believe

531
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:54,680
that they used that river bed as a point of

532
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,480
ingress and egress down out of the North Cascades from

533
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,319
the path coming down into the area of North Bend, Washington,

534
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:09,159
because after I saw mine, the hunter reached out and

535
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,840
said he saw one three weeks before I did in

536
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,880
the same location. And then I was on a video

537
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,440
and somebody else contacted me through there and said I

538
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,360
also saw one in that same riverbed. So that once

539
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
been seen or they've been seeing three times in that

540
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,880
riverbed in the same location. But the one I saw

541
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,360
it was really surprising to me. It appeared to be

542
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:38,639
very well grimmed. It wasn't all matted and shaggy. Hmmm, wow,

543
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:46,880
pork up, can you hear you? That was me?

544
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:48,559
Speaker 6: There we go?

545
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,119
Speaker 5: That was me.

546
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: You know, it's an interesting observation because oftentimes, you know,

547
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:56,159
we get reports of these stinky, uh you know, kind

548
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,480
of dirty, matted, matted creatures, but not always and you know,

549
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,599
the observation that you had of it being in the

550
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,519
creek bed riverbed rather, it is interesting. You know, you

551
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,719
wonder if it's do they have like a like a

552
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,840
timing schedule, like do they have a bath time? Do

553
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,559
they have a you know, a set frequency upon which

554
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:17,440
they do do they do it based on need? You know, hey,

555
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,639
you know I'm really ripe right now? Do I need

556
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:20,920
to go check in the river?

557
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,559
Speaker 5: Does missus sas question? Not tonight, buddy, you got to

558
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:26,039
go take a.

559
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,119
Speaker 6: Bath, right, A little sasquad sunset action we got going

560
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:35,519
on here? Oh, but no, it's a very interesting observation.

561
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:36,719
Go ahead, bake. Did you have a question?

562
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 8: I just was there was a clean the pits moment.

563
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,519
Speaker 3: There.

564
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 6: You know I'm muting you because your dogs are going

565
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,719
crazy in the background.

566
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,159
Speaker 5: Pal Uh. I'd also like to mention something else, if

567
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:55,239
it's okay about hunger always. I think it's tremendous what

568
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,360
you're doing with this Squatching out hunger campaign. Thank you.

569
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,960
I'm supporting it. I'm asking everybody else to support it.

570
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:08,760
The reason it's so important to me is about oh,

571
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,599
twenty three years ago, I became homeless due to a

572
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,360
number of situations. The main thing was I didn't like

573
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,480
to work very much at that time, and I got

574
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:26,199
myself into a really bad situation with a disintegrating relationship,

575
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,880
ended up getting divorced, going from place to place, living

576
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,199
with an uncle. And I had a lot of food

577
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,599
insecurity because like I was on the Raman diet for

578
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,440
a while when I had food and all I ate

579
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,480
for weeks on weeks and the weeks was ramen, and

580
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,320
sometimes I didn't have that and I had just bread

581
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,719
and I made ketchup sandwiches because I couldn't afford meat.

582
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,360
So having food insecurities, I completely understand that. And let

583
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,280
me tell you, the weight of that on somebody is tremendous,

584
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,079
absolutely bring them down to where you know, they become helpless.

585
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,239
You don't know where your next mill is coming from,

586
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,800
if you're going to starve to death or what. So

587
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,639
I just want to say I applaud you and I

588
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,639
really appreciate what you're doing because it's important to me too.

589
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 6: Thank you, Jimmy really is. And thank you for sharing that,

590
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,440
you know with everybody, because I think it's important for people.

591
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:20,599
Speaker 5: Know.

592
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: People think it can't happen to them, and the reality

593
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,039
is it can. And it's happened to friends, it's happened

594
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:27,840
to families, and sometimes it's happened to people we didn't

595
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,079
even realize it's happening too. Yeah, And so I'm just

596
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,280
asking folks to, you know, think about if anything in

597
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,719
this world, you know, and Jimmy, we hear everybody say

598
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,360
people out here just to make money or what a bullshit.

599
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,159
I've lost more money in Bigfoot than I've ever made

600
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000
and I always will. This podcast costs me money. We're

601
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:49,960
not raking in the dough. Trust me. If even for

602
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,679
a little as two dollars a month that you could

603
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:56,400
support the Patreon, it's still a lot of the out

604
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,599
of the pocket fund. But one of the things I'm

605
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,920
passionate about it. We have a platform, I'm an opportunity

606
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,400
to do some good. Let's do it. Let's let's engage

607
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,440
our listeners and our audience and get people, you know,

608
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,119
interested in helping out somebody else, whether it's a buck,

609
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960
it's whatever. Let's let's do our due diligence. Let's be

610
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,000
better neighbors, Let's be better people and help somebody. This

611
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,280
world's getting to be a terrible place. And if you

612
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,119
could just think about somebody else for one minute, makes

613
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,840
all the difference in the world. And trust me, Jimmy,

614
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,559
you know from sharing your experience, you know being hungry

615
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:34,039
affects the mental health as much as the physical. Absolutely,

616
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
And you know what, as men, we need to support

617
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,039
each other and build each other up in that uh

618
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440
process as well. I know you guys came here to

619
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,800
talk about Bigfoot, Jimmy and I get that, but you know,

620
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,800
I think we have to. It's a serious, you know,

621
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,760
serious thing. We have to talk about these things. They're

622
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,000
important to our world. And Henry or I'll kick it

623
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,000
back to you, I stepped on you and took your thunder.

624
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:56,800
I'm sorry, brother, Oh it's Okay, don't brought no problem.

625
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 7: Also, Jimmie, I want to ask about three old footprints.

626
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,960
What is your opinion on three toad footprints? And do

627
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:10,400
you think that a viable primate population would be able

628
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000
to support itself on three toes.

629
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: Physiologically? I'm not sure that they could. I'm probably the

630
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,119
wrong person to answer to ask that. Probably more like

631
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:26,119
doctor Meldrum would know better. I think that is it

632
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:30,679
possible that there could be a three toad creature out there? Yeah,

633
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,639
there's other creatures that have three toes, so could it

634
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:40,079
support the weight? I'm not sure. I think maybe it

635
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:45,159
could also be maybe not a complete print at times.

636
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,039
I know that well Sew knows. Recently, I was in

637
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:53,000
the Blue Mountains camping with a large group out there.

638
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,519
We went out and visited the Spreaman site and two

639
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,400
of the people that were there were female mother and

640
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000
a daughter, and they had gone out into the tree

641
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:07,559
room bathroom and something grinded at them and they thought

642
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,480
it was a bear. So they came out They're like,

643
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,039
you know, hey, something just grinted at us. So everybody

644
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:15,599
kind of gathers up and we, you know a lot

645
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,559
of us are armed. We make our way out into

646
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,239
the tree line to try to figure out, you know,

647
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,760
what's going on out there, and we find a footprint.

648
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,840
It's it wasn't extremely long, it was very wide. It

649
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,840
had the mid tarsl break, and that's the first time

650
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,360
I've got to see that in person. Had the mid

651
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,480
tarsl break the ball of the foot, but it only

652
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:43,239
had one toad present in the print. And I was

653
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,239
trying to figure out, Okay, well why is that and

654
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,519
also why is there only one print? There's just this

655
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:52,079
one print twenty feet inside the tree line, and I'm

656
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,559
standing back and I'm kind of looking at it, observing

657
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,719
the scene, trying to put the pieces together and figure

658
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,760
it out. And there's a big red seed tree there

659
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,360
that is pretty large, and if something was standing behind

660
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,519
that cedar tree and it leaned out on the outside

661
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:13,000
edge of their foot to peek around, it would have

662
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,119
just kind of the outside edge of the foot and

663
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,280
maybe just the pinky toe. So maybe it's dependent upon

664
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,760
how they're standing as to what's present in the print.

665
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,800
I guess. Really, that's all I could say about that.

666
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,960
I don't have the knowledge to be able to speak

667
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,599
physiologically about it. Good question, though, right think about it.

668
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,519
Speaker 8: You're saying it has to do also maybe with the

669
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,679
positioning in their gate. Yeah, because I've seen a lot

670
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,840
of the I've seen a lot of them. I was

671
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920
watching the Josh Gates special they one time, and he

672
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,639
was in one of the it was in South America,

673
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,719
and he said, you know, he saw a three toed,

674
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,840
a three toed one, but then he noticed that the

675
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,079
way it was that there was like a slant, so

676
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:02,079
it was like a slurt almost like there might have

677
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,519
been more toes, but there wasn't enough pressing on the

678
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,639
other toes. And also it was kind of an embankment,

679
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:09,800
so it brought down. And I think that's a lot

680
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,519
of times as you see you see partials, you don't

681
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,800
get the whole footprint. Three does.

682
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was just you know, like I said,

683
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,119
I was just down in Oregon and I was I

684
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,880
was down there with Michelle Heaton, who's the leader of

685
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,400
the Sweet Home Sasquatch Research Group. Shout out to her

686
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,119
because she was a great host. Took me out to

687
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:37,199
her research area and she showed me pictures. We couldn't

688
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,719
get out there that evening, but there's an area out

689
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,400
there that is moss covered road that's paved underneath, and

690
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,840
she found some really great tracks out there, but some

691
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,360
of them looked kind of weird, and they were elongated,

692
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,159
and one had the hill and it kind of was curved,

693
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,159
and then it didn't have all the toes present. But

694
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:02,920
to me, when I looked at it, it looked like

695
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:07,760
maybe it slid, and looking at it through that eyes,

696
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,159
maybe it happened slid on the slick moss. Maybe it

697
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:16,000
was running. Then it could create those aberrations in the print.

698
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,239
So I think you have to really consider the whole scene.

699
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,119
Look at everything that's going on there. What's the what's

700
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,000
the substrate, what's the material that the footprints in, what

701
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,519
are the conditions? How old is it? Could it have

702
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,639
been raining, could it be sliding? Could it be you

703
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:38,840
know the infamous double bear step. Is it super long

704
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,079
because it slid? Maybe it was coming downhill. I think

705
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:43,559
you have to consider all of that.

706
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,199
Speaker 6: All I can think of at the moment is, you know,

707
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,880
you said, did it did it slip? And you know,

708
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,719
you wonder how many times do these guys do they

709
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480
have clumsy accidents like we do? Do they go ass

710
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:56,280
over tea categal down downhills and Henry. You know, we

711
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,519
go back years. We interviewed Skip from back and remember

712
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,960
Skip was telling us the story but if the Bigfoot

713
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,639
fell down the mountain mm hmm, right in front of

714
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,079
them and Jimmy, I don't know if familiar with that story,

715
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,920
but it fell down the mountains that it was on.

716
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,119
It was on Unsolved Mysteries way back in the day.

717
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,519
And uh, yeah, I remember that, and I think you're right.

718
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,039
They're they're like us, and some of them may be

719
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:22,840
big and stupid.

720
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: And so something else happened. Yeah, maybe he stepped on

721
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,079
ground hornets.

722
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

723
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,639
Speaker 5: So my radio name in groups is usually a cowboy. Uh,

724
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,039
but this trip to the Blue Mountains had the opportunity

725
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,360
to ride a many back mini bike, which I ended

726
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,679
up crashing and falling. And then when we were on

727
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,159
the pall at the Paul Freeman site coming back down,

728
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,960
I tripped over the log that he stepped over and

729
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,360
I fell again. So we changed my radio name to

730
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,159
the Fall Guy.

731
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: The Fall Guy. Now, you and I talked about your

732
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,800
trip out there to the Freeman site, and do you

733
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,760
want to share some of those insights you had with me?

734
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,239
You know, you and I were talking, you know, we

735
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,760
talk about how you know he gets some chaff because he's,

736
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:11,079
you know, out of breath in that video. You've been

737
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,239
to the you've been to the area, you know what

738
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,199
it's physically like.

739
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point. And I just watched her

740
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,440
listen to that episode recently and it kind of brought

741
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,840
that to mind. So I was at the Freeman side

742
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,400
at the end of June and I got to go

743
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,159
down there two different times while we were camped there.

744
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:38,000
The first time I went down, the first thing that

745
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:41,400
really grabbed me is how close it is to the spring.

746
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,920
It's a very short walk. Also, it's a lot more

747
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:49,599
uphill than you would think that it is. It's something

748
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:56,559
that video and especially photography cannot capture and translate. And

749
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:58,800
it's one of the things that I struggle with as

750
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,639
off road automotive photographer, trying to capture enclines to show

751
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,840
like how extreme the position a vehicle may be in,

752
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,840
but it just doesn't come through. And the very same

753
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,639
thing happens with this. So one of the reasons he's

754
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,280
probably that contributes. I can tell you it contributed to

755
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,360
him being out of breath as the incline that he

756
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,480
had to go up the other thing is he was

757
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:26,639
a hell of a lot closer than it appears in

758
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:30,440
the video when you're standing where he was standing when

759
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,639
he goes, oh there he goes, it's not very far

760
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,320
at all. It was shocking how close that it was.

761
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,039
And the video camera that he was using back in

762
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:45,760
ninety two like can't capture that depth perception very well,

763
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,760
so it appears like it's a lot further than it

764
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,400
really is.

765
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 6: Do you know what he was using? Which VHS camera

766
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,199
he was using, Jimmie or Henry.

767
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 5: I don't know that. I don't know.

768
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,159
Speaker 7: I'd have to go back and re read Michael Freeman's.

769
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 5: Book about Freeman, about Paul, about his father.

770
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, gotcha, I remember what kind of camera it was. Sorry,

771
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:10,719
didn't jump in there. I just thought, you know, maybe

772
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,719
it was a little relevant. Go ahead, guys. There's another

773
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:21,119
book called I think It's Into the Blues by Vance Vance.

774
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:24,559
Speaker 5: Uh Big for the Blues, Big for the Blues. So

775
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:27,159
I just started reading that because it was recommended to

776
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:29,480
me because like, we went to a lot of those places.

777
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,119
But it may have that in there as well. And

778
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:35,480
then I'll tell you also, a really great resource for

779
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:39,880
this is Jonathan Easley, that guy has got a tremendous

780
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,679
amount of knowledge about that site. And the second time

781
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,480
I went back down there, I met Jonathan Easley down

782
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,960
there and he did a complete walkthrough of everything and

783
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:55,960
the breakdown of how it went down. He had gone

784
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,280
out there and helped rediscover that location and also figure out,

785
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,679
you know, based on measurements and distances, the tree that

786
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,239
you see in the in the Freeman video, the Christmas

787
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,639
tree was only about twelve feet tall back then, and

788
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,039
it's grown considerably now. I can send you some pictures

789
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,360
and some video of what it looks like today. Wow,

790
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,360
It's it's like crazy to actually stand there and look

791
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,159
at it and go, You're like, you know, one of

792
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:29,400
the iconic moments and all of bigfooty happened right there,

793
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,320
and it was just such an incredible honor to be

794
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,639
able to participate in that.

795
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 6: What do you think being there on the ground seeing

796
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,880
the spot that Freeman walked, do you think it added

797
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,760
any more credibility in your mind or any more authenticity

798
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,559
of it that you know you were actually there and

799
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,719
able to see some of the physical terrain and just

800
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,559
the area where this. You know, one of the more

801
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,360
famous bigfoot videos have been taken.

802
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really remote, and their signs all over the

803
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:05,360
dirt road you take to get there that tell you

804
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:08,079
stay out of the watershed. That's where the city of

805
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,360
Walla Walla gets there drinking water from. And that's what

806
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,360
his job was out there, was a forced patrolman to

807
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:17,599
protect that watershed and keep you know, their drinking water

808
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,159
in good condition. And so I think he took that

809
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,239
very seriously, and he was in a prime location to

810
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:31,400
you know, find footprints. Then he saw at least one

811
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,840
prior to when he recorded that video, and that prompted

812
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,679
him to go into town and get his video recorder

813
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,440
come back out. And then you know, as he's going

814
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:46,360
up the trail there, like I said, it's a really

815
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,679
short walk from the spring itself and that it starts

816
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,320
going uphill and you can see, like I'm walking up

817
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,840
that trail and I can see the footprints and everything

818
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,679
is just replaying through my mind, and you hear him go,

819
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,880
you know, here brush popping, yep, right there, and then

820
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,920
the camera pads, Oh, there he goes, and you see

821
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,280
it come out and walk from right to left. Then

822
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,440
if you look here, it turns and looks at him.

823
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:19,320
Then it goes behind the tree here and it peeks out.

824
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,880
See it peeked out again, and then it walks off again.

825
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,599
Then he makes his way up the trail from there,

826
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,960
kind of scrambling up there to try to catch up

827
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,920
to it, and then he sees what we believe is

828
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,719
a female sasquatch through the trees. And Doug Hichecked did

829
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,400
a video stabilization that he was able to show Paul

830
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,760
Freeman before he passed away, where you can see it

831
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,840
looks like a small one being picked up. You can

832
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,320
see the legs coming up off of the ground. And

833
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,320
so there's a lot of thought that that area. There's

834
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,360
like a ravine that goes down into the creek, the

835
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:11,360
creek that sped from the spring, and and it also

836
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,440
goes little ones.

837
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 6: Oh no, we're good. We had a little technical difficulty there, Jimmy.

838
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,079
You didn't know your last last thought on that.

839
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: So maybe that's an area they used to drop the

840
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,679
little ones off and then they could go out and forge.

841
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,159
There's water. It's a very protected area, but it's very remote.

842
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,239
Big food tack here. Take care that what that's what

843
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,719
it's called.

844
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 6: Now, you know, it's always one of those pieces that

845
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,280
have fascinated me personally, and Henry, you and I have

846
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,119
talked about it for years, but it's always been you know,

847
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,719
I've always held it to you know, I don't know

848
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,519
a high standard to my own uh being out there,

849
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:57,639
I personally.

850
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 5: All the more believable to answer your question, and it

851
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,039
like really solidified it for me.

852
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:09,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, I believe that that footage is of a female.

853
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: It's actually a female.

854
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,119
Speaker 7: It's big gill, not big gym.

855
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 5: Could be she may have been with child.

856
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 6: Maybe she's just a big girl.

857
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah right, she's just a big Well, since we can't

858
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,280
see Jenna Tale.

859
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 8: I made.

860
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 6: Smoking for two anyhow, Sorry, Jimmy, go ahead.

861
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: Don't worry. Yeah, I mean, we really don't know what

862
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,360
sex it was. It's just kind of conjecture that it

863
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,679
was a mallet. Could have been a female.

864
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:51,679
Speaker 6: We don't know, right, I think it would be more

865
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,760
odd if it was a female, you know, I think

866
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,400
that would.

867
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 5: Add even more. I don't know.

868
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 6: Well, doubt to it being that Patty was female, and

869
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,079
you know, we're all bigfoot film females, so so it

870
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,000
goes down that line.

871
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 5: But maybe they are. Well. I think it was a

872
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,039
whole family group there for one so I think you

873
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:12,280
had the male, and then you had the female, and

874
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,239
you had a child, So I think it was a

875
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,159
whole family group. And then if there's three there, how

876
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,760
many more were there that we didn't see or that

877
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,039
weren't seen at that time.

878
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: We all saw the end of Harry and the Henderson's

879
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,639
they came out of.

880
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: Nowhere, So it's a super squatchy place even today. One

881
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,920
of the people that were with us with his wife,

882
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,000
they were on one of the four service roads and

883
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:43,360
dirt road that we were camped off of, and recorded

884
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,480
a vocal that was very loud, very strong, and very long.

885
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,400
It was pretty crazy to think, you know, that was

886
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:57,800
right there. And then there's also like an abundance of

887
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,639
other wildlife there. We heard cougar uh screaming at night.

888
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:07,719
There was an interaction with a lone wolf circling the

889
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,199
camp a couple of nights before I got there. One

890
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:14,239
of the guys was playing a flute and I think

891
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:16,840
a wolf did not like the flute. But listening to

892
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,679
the audio, it doesn't sound like a wolf at first.

893
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,760
It sounds like trying to figure out, like, Okay, what

894
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,760
the hell is that? And I'm sure it was terrifying. Well,

895
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,760
maybe not terrifying, but it was pretty scary to have

896
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:33,000
a large predator circling your camp and hollering and howling. Uh.

897
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:36,079
But they eventually figured out that they believe it was

898
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,599
a lone wolf because of the how all the lonesome

899
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:42,559
how Okay, there was a lot of interesting stuff that

900
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:45,400
happened out there. I can't wait to go back home.

901
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:46,239
You know.

902
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,199
Speaker 6: One of the things we've been ever since we had

903
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,199
David Zigane on the show was, you know, getting folks

904
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,519
to know the audio the animals in the areas you're

905
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:57,800
you're frequenting, right, and you know, as to you say,

906
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,119
they're Jimmy that you know, it sounded like a if.

907
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:03,440
There are some things that sound very strange, like we

908
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,920
got waken up in the middle of the night here

909
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,119
in northern Pennsylvania by what sounded like a woman being murdered.

910
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:11,559
Speaker 5: Uh.

911
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,639
Speaker 6: And it was a horrifying sound, you know. And you know,

912
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,679
you got I jumped out in my T shirt and

913
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,320
boxer shorts. You got guys jumping out in their pajamas

914
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,159
or whatever, trying to figure out what the hell this

915
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,960
sound is At three four o'clock in the morning. It

916
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,119
was horrifying. And it turns out I think it was

917
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,159
a well, I think we determined it was an elk

918
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,639
of all things that was just making a horrifying sound,

919
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,840
and you know, lo and behold not the next morning

920
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,639
we found a footprint around the campsite, So I mean

921
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,440
not ch, No, it was a it was you know,

922
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,239
like it looked like a big foot impression. Uh, it's

923
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,719
just these little things that you're running into.

924
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 5: You have your explanation there, all right.

925
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:55,159
Speaker 6: I'm telling you what, man, you've heard sound in the

926
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:57,639
middle of the night. I think everybody that has gone

927
00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:59,920
out and put the time in the field has had

928
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,760
these moments where they're like, oh shit, what's that? And

929
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,679
it's scary when you're out there and you hear these things,

930
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,559
and you know when you have I don't know how

931
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,119
you felt when you had your encounter. I know with

932
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,119
mine it was you know, what the hell did I

933
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:20,599
get myself into? But it was definitely a world changing

934
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:21,360
for me.

935
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:26,559
Speaker 5: I talk about it a little bit in episode one

936
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:28,599
of my show, and I've been on a couple of

937
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,920
other shows and talked about it, but just really briefly,

938
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:35,000
I was up in a rooftop tent on top of

939
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,559
my Forerunner and had what I believe was a big

940
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:42,840
foot circling my Forerunner at twelve thirty in the morning.

941
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And what walked me up is a real heavy crunching footstep,

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so like if you're parked on gravel and a vehic

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when you turn the tire. That sound that it makes,

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it's exactly what I heard. And then I was listening

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very intently, and it made a circle onto my rig

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until it got to the annex that I had zipped

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into the rooftop tent that looks like just a big

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tent on the side of my Forerunner. And I heard

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it get the fabrick and stretch it, zipper jiggled, and

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let me tell you, I was terrified.

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Speaker 6: I could imagine.

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Speaker 5: I can still feel it. Every time I talk about it,

953
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my chest tightens up a little bit. It was very scary.

954
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I didn't know if it was fixing to rip it

955
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open and come in and snatch me out of that tent.

956
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There's nothing I could have done if it had, even

957
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if I was armed, it wouldn't have done any good.

958
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But that's kind of what kicked all this off for me.

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And that was back in June of twenty twenty three

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when I had that experience dispersed camping, that kind of

961
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rekindled my interest in all of this and being in

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the Pacific Northwest, and I'd started talking about, you know,

963
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overlanding and off roading, maybe doing a podcast, and then

964
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you know, the dream finally came true and got that

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kicked off. So I'm really looking forward to what the

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future brings and being able to contribute however I can

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to the community. It's full of great folks like yourselves.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Like Mark Mercel says in his presentation, it's not going

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to be one person that's going to make a discovery.

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It's going to be everybody working together because you may

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have a piece to the puzzle that I don't have,

973
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and whenever we talk and collaborate and we compare notes,

974
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that's where discoveries can happen.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think that's incredibly well said Jimmy. Where can

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folks find out more about your show and find out

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more about you?

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Speaker 5: Thank you? So you can go to www dot off

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roadexfiles dot com. I have a page for my podcast

980
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,400
on there with links to the feed. The podcast is

981
00:58:53,400 --> 00:59:00,880
currently on Spotify, Amazon, Podcast, Audible, iHeartRadio episode was released

982
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,519
last night. I'm really excited about that one. It's my

983
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:09,159
first adventure into storytelling and interviewing. So part of it

984
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is talking about the legend of the hairy Man in

985
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Round Rock and the Old West. It goes all the

986
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way back to the eighteen fifties until the nineteen eighties.

987
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The whole episode covers kind of that area. But everything

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you can find on my website, including my build for

989
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,440
my Forerunner, everything that I've put into that links to

990
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:34,480
it kind of what it does. And I'm going to

991
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be adding to that. So the website's the best place.

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Speaker 6: Check them out. Folks. As always support great research and

993
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:44,400
great researchers and podcasts. That's why we bring folks on

994
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,559
to talk about it and spread the good word. More

995
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:50,199
boots on the ground, more eyes on the mystery. That's

996
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,360
what's going to solve it. And we thank you for

997
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,320
spending time with us tonight, Jimmy so much. It's been great.

998
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,320
We'll have to have it on again sometime. Yeah, I'd

999
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love to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really nice.

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Speaker 6: Henry, Yeah, my friend. Before I kick it over to you, folks,

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find us over social media Facebook, Instagram, x Sasquatch Experience

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,000
on expert Squatch exp email us you're citing or encounter

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01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:21,719
at info at Sasquatch Experience dot Com once again, and

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,360
I know you guys are finally You're probably gonna get

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01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,599
tired of me showing it, but I don't care. Squatch

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01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:28,840
out hunger. If it doesn't, If you can't tell it's

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,079
important to me, then you're just DNS is a brick.

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So get those clicks going. Let's let's raise some money

1010
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:39,000
for a good cause. Okay, Henry, Oh, we're going to

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,079
be at the Central PA Bigfoot Festival this weekend. Myself

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,679
and Matt Saturday are got Knockers, one of our sponsors

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01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:48,920
here at the show, putting on a great conference. This

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is the third year Baker and I have been there

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,320
every year. I'm the MC for the event this year.

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We're gonna have a good time as always. Celands Grow Pennsylvania.

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Go to Central Pa Bigfoot dot com for more information.

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And on that note, Henry, take us out.

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Speaker 5: You'll be good.

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Speaker 7: Be good at it.

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Speaker 6: There it is, folks, Keep on squatching, everybody. We'll see

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you in two weeks with our guest Terrestrial from the

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Sasquatch Data Project.

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