Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costin's video.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Dan, and welcome back everyone. We're going
Speaker 1: to change topics here again. Hats off to the state
Speaker 1: auditor Diana. I'm doing a great job, and I would
Speaker 1: suggest if you get an opportunity to read the Globe,
Speaker 1: read the newspaper the Herald today and understand what she found.
Speaker 1: And we will talk about that maybe again later on
Speaker 1: this week. But I want to change topics, and I
Speaker 1: want to talk about a topic that has concerned me
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I would hope that it
Speaker 1: concerns most of you, and that is the presence of coyotes.
Speaker 1: There's also other animals. I live not far from Brookline,
Speaker 1: and I saw a huge raccoon walking across the driveway
Speaker 1: the other night, and I don't want to end up
Speaker 1: meeting the rocky raccoon at night. But we're delighted to
Speaker 1: be joined by Brookline resident Nicole Roberts, who was interviewed.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether it was Channel four channel five,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Nicole, Welcome to Nightside. How
Speaker 1: are you? Thank you for joining.
Speaker 2: Us, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: You might have been on both stations I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you had an up close and personal visit with
Speaker 1: a coyotea two in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I did right near the country club across the street
Speaker 2: in Buttonwood Village. Yeah, I was out with my French bulldog,
Speaker 2: so very small dog.
Speaker 1: What is your French bulldog's name? We want to be
Speaker 1: able to say that people across America heard the name
Speaker 1: of your I love French bulldogs. A French bulldog's name Lola, Right, Lola.
Speaker 1: I have a listener in San Diego named Lola. So
Speaker 1: if Lola san Diego was listening, we're not talking about you,
Speaker 1: Lola in San Diego. We're talking about Lola the French
Speaker 1: bulldog in Brookline. So you're out for a walk at night?
Speaker 1: What time in night? Dusk? Are our dark at night?
Speaker 2: It was nine o'clock and it was and I was
Speaker 2: at my dead end street and I was gonna it's
Speaker 2: like a circle, and I was about to go around
Speaker 2: the circle and go home. All of a sudden, a
Speaker 2: coyote came out from someone's backyard across the street and
Speaker 2: was five houses up for me, went onto my lawn.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, I can't go home now. And
Speaker 2: then I just waited, and then another coyote came out
Speaker 2: from someone's backyard, so maybe they were coming from the
Speaker 2: country club, so to come from larsy Anderson or the
Speaker 2: country club. So I yelled, I screamed. A couple neighbors
Speaker 2: thought it was kids' children playing outside, so they didn't
Speaker 2: come out. So I had to ring someone's doorbell, and
Speaker 2: I had to get one of the neighbors to walk
Speaker 2: me home because I'm only five feet and I was
Speaker 2: nervous that the coyote would be able to get Lola
Speaker 2: out of my ice arms.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you I had a neighbor. I had
Speaker 1: a neighbor who will not be identified. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: is no I'm serious. This is twenty years ago in Newton,
Speaker 1: and she was gardening in the back in her yard,
Speaker 1: lovely yard of great gardener. And when I first met her,
Speaker 1: when we first moved into the neighborhood, she told me
Speaker 1: this story at which was that a few months earlier.
Speaker 1: It would have been in May, this time of year,
Speaker 1: a beautiful day. She had a small dog. I forget
Speaker 1: what type, but a small dog. Coyote came out of
Speaker 1: the woods in the middle of the day. Whether it
Speaker 1: was eleven thirty or one o'clock middle what I would
Speaker 1: call the middle of the day, grabbed the coyote, and
Speaker 1: my neighbor, who at that point, you know, was not
Speaker 1: an older person. Probably she was, I don't know, forty
Speaker 1: years years old, but not someone who wants to race
Speaker 1: with coyotes. She had the courage to go chase the
Speaker 1: coyote and pull her beloved dog out of the mouth
Speaker 1: of the coyote.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, just so, her dog was hurt and had
Speaker 1: to have surgery, and it was eight thousand dollars worth
Speaker 1: of surgery. Now you and I both know because we're
Speaker 1: both dog lovers. I've had dogs and my kids now
Speaker 1: have dogs. I love dogs, and I love dogs more
Speaker 1: than then. Well, you probably feel the same way about
Speaker 1: your dog. So eight dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with any kind of dog.
Speaker 1: Eight thousand dollars is a lot of money, but we
Speaker 1: would spend that in a New York second. So she
Speaker 1: spent the money. A year later, she was out in
Speaker 1: her yard almost the exact same time of the year
Speaker 1: in May, and another coyote, or maybe the same coyote,
Speaker 1: came out, grabbed the dog, ran off with the dog
Speaker 1: to be seen again.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's an alert to everybody. And by
Speaker 1: the way, she was a very smart, bright, athletic woman.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not someone who couldn't she a
Speaker 1: year ago. She just was a little quicker or whatever,
Speaker 1: or maybe the coyote was smarter. What are you hearing
Speaker 1: from your friends in your Yeah, in your community. You're
Speaker 1: not the only one who's experienced.
Speaker 2: This, right, No, So last August I was this past August,
Speaker 2: I was walking with my neighbor and there was a
Speaker 2: coyote at the other dead end street in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: So we ran to her house and she drove me home.
Speaker 2: But her at her house she had two in her
Speaker 2: yard at six pm one day. And then my neighbor
Speaker 2: that lives like two houses from me, ten thirty in
Speaker 2: the morning, there were two coyotes in her driveway.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, I mean, obviously at six pm at night,
Speaker 1: that's a scary time because that's supper.
Speaker 2: Time, you know, in the summertime, and then the morning.
Speaker 1: So do we have a mutual friend. I believe that
Speaker 1: a mutual friend told us about your dilemma. Do we
Speaker 1: don't mention her last name? Audrey.
Speaker 2: Yep, yes, okay, good neighbor.
Speaker 1: Yeah good, okay. Well, thank Audrey for getting us in
Speaker 1: touch with you. I just here's the problem we live.
Speaker 1: We choose to live in a suburb, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt any animal. I don't want to hurt
Speaker 1: a coyote. But I think we've gotten to the point
Speaker 1: where I had someone on from mass Wildlife the other night.
Speaker 1: I guess the bear population has exploded in Massachusetts and
Speaker 1: they are going to, I guess, increase the time in
Speaker 1: which people who hunt bears can hunt because they need
Speaker 1: to call the called the herd of bears. They are
Speaker 1: like five thousand bears in Massachusetts and they're coming eastward.
Speaker 1: But it seems to me that coyotes are almost protected
Speaker 1: and encouraged, and there's going to be some small child
Speaker 1: who gets attacked by a coyote and may be worse
Speaker 1: than attacked by a coyote. If unless we we within
Speaker 1: the one twenty eighty area get together and say, look,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. We did not choose to live in
Speaker 1: Wyoming on Montana. We're living in within the one twenty
Speaker 1: eight area. Do you agree with me on that or not.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I completely agree. They're saying, like I told
Speaker 2: my neighbor today, he has a fence sann yard. I'm like,
Speaker 2: do not let your dog out even in the fence
Speaker 2: in yard at night. They can they jump over fences, yes,
Speaker 2: but it's fighting. So I if my neighbor can't go
Speaker 2: out with me at the time I go out, or
Speaker 2: anytime after nine, I don't go out with my dog.
Speaker 2: I I'm like, you know what, seven o'clock was, fine,
Speaker 2: I can't go out with her. I'm too nervous to
Speaker 2: go by myself.
Speaker 1: Now. No, well, you have every right to be and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go out. I when when one of my
Speaker 1: grand dogs is staying with us and I go out
Speaker 1: at night, I keep them on a leash and I
Speaker 1: keep them right near me and I can scoop them.
Speaker 1: Yea if I have to.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, she's always on a leash. But I'm
Speaker 2: still too nervous at night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm telling you. I mean they are part
Speaker 1: of our family. And I think that at some point
Speaker 1: this has to mature itself as a as a political issue,
Speaker 1: and we need the legislature to say, okay, we need
Speaker 1: to allow trapping of coyotes and relocating coyotes away from
Speaker 1: from eastern Massachusetts. It just is inconsistent with the lifestyle
Speaker 1: that people want to live. You want to have it.
Speaker 1: You want to have a pet, you want to have
Speaker 1: a dog, you want to have a cat. You don't
Speaker 1: want them sack.
Speaker 2: You want to feel free to go out and take
Speaker 2: a your neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, oh, I've been in situations. I've been in
Speaker 1: situations where I've been stared down by coyotes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I must tell you that I've been in situations
Speaker 1: where I have seen coyotes. And I can vividly remember
Speaker 1: being one night late on stow ro driver and the
Speaker 1: coyote was in the middle of the road, and part
Speaker 1: of me said, you know, just you know, get geit
Speaker 1: that I didn't have the heart to hit the coyote, okay,
Speaker 1: because it's still a living, a living thing, but I
Speaker 1: want him out of here. I want him out of here.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, many years ago, another neighbor
Speaker 1: mind went to actually was trying to trap a coyote.
Speaker 1: Now I think that technically that's illegal, okay, And she
Speaker 1: told me about it, and the next morning she woke
Speaker 1: up and she found in the in her trap. She
Speaker 1: didn't find a coyote. She found something worse than a coyote,
Speaker 1: a faster cat. Do you know what a fisher can is? Yeah, those.
Speaker 2: Big big cats right.
Speaker 1: Well, the nuts because she said this fisher cat was
Speaker 1: and she actually had a trapper come in and put
Speaker 1: a trap in her backyard, you know, and so you know,
Speaker 1: a cage trap. She said she was afraid to go
Speaker 1: near the trap because this fisher cat they're vicious. They
Speaker 1: are vicious. They're more vicious than a coyote. Was running
Speaker 1: up and down, you know, across the front, top of
Speaker 1: the crate, the inside of the crate, down, running on
Speaker 1: the side. It's insane what we have allowed to come
Speaker 1: into eastern Massachusetts. And the politicians sleep on this. So
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing your story and absolutely you really mean that,
Speaker 1: and say say hello to our good friend Audrey.
Speaker 4: Because I will, I will.
Speaker 1: You know this has got it's just about everyone in
Speaker 1: your neighborhood. Are they aware of this? Hopefully? And are
Speaker 1: they aware?
Speaker 2: Everyone is aware? Like and my friend that had the
Speaker 2: two in her driveway at ten thirty in the morning, Yes,
Speaker 2: another night, she was walking around the block and she
Speaker 2: was heading home to our dead and you couldn't walk
Speaker 2: down here because the coyote was sit there, so she
Speaker 2: had to go around the block again and wait and
Speaker 2: just like wait.
Speaker 1: I've talked with some of the coyote advocates. You know,
Speaker 1: they had a huge problem up in the Hunt a
Speaker 1: few years ago. We did some stories on that where
Speaker 1: the coyotes were just braizen. They were brazen and they
Speaker 1: were confronting people. And when you talk to the advocates
Speaker 1: of the coyotes and say we'll just make some noise,
Speaker 1: wave your arm and they're going away, I don't think so, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, my mom made me a can of change.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that going to do for someone
Speaker 2: that's five feet right to work?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just need to get out, get them
Speaker 1: out past one, you know, four ninety five and let
Speaker 1: them out there. I think people who live out there
Speaker 1: are are more used to them, and to have them
Speaker 1: here in eastern Massachusetts. I think it's gonna We're going
Speaker 1: to have a tragedy, and I hate to predict it,
Speaker 1: but I think it's inevitable. Nicole, thanks much for joining
Speaker 1: us tonight, Thanks for listening to the other side, and please,
Speaker 1: if if your friends want to hear the interview, they
Speaker 1: can go to our web page. Tomorrow you can just
Speaker 1: go to Nightside and demand in the ten o'clock hour,
Speaker 1: we'll be posted and you're right at the top of
Speaker 1: the hour. So thank you so much. Please stay said
Speaker 1: and give your beautiful French bulldog a big hug for
Speaker 1: thanks to call. All right, we'll take a quick break,
Speaker 1: thanks to Cale. I only have one line left open here,
Speaker 1: so at six pet seven. My proposal is that coyotes
Speaker 1: should be relocated, relocated outside of one twenty eight, arguably
Speaker 1: outside of four ninety five. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1: I think that people out on that part of the
Speaker 1: state are more used to them, they're more comfortable with them,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a huge problem that has to
Speaker 1: be addressed. Well that's what we're going to be talking
Speaker 1: about for a while, that's for sure. So we got
Speaker 1: Mark and John and Patty and the other line has
Speaker 1: just filled as well. We'll talk about it for a while.
Speaker 1: If you disagree with me on this and you think
Speaker 1: that we need to live and cohabit with our coyote neighbors,
Speaker 1: bring it on. We can have a conversation and if
Speaker 1: you support the idea, let's get let's get the legislature,
Speaker 1: or let's get these cities and towns moving to select
Speaker 1: people and all of that, and let's move them out
Speaker 1: back on nightside. Right after this, it's nightside, let's go
Speaker 1: to the phones. Started off with John and New York.
Speaker 1: John got any coyotes in New York?
Speaker 3: Yes, good evening, Dan, John. I live in Scohari, which
Speaker 3: is a rural area.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: My elevation and my property is about thirteen hundred feet
Speaker 3: but down in the valley there are numerous coyotes there.
Speaker 3: And get it, they ever come up?
Speaker 1: Do they ever come up and visit?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: This is what I won the I lived there thirty
Speaker 3: years now. There've been times at night that they start
Speaker 3: carrying on and they're fighting, and they're barking and screaming, right,
Speaker 3: and you're talking about they're probably only two or three
Speaker 3: thousand feet away in the woods for me, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I've never seen a one at all. But my
Speaker 3: concern is maybe somebody one of your calls could give
Speaker 3: me advice on if I get confronted with one, what
Speaker 3: do I do?
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we will have callers who'll give you advice,
Speaker 1: I'm told, but I don't necessarily believe it. Supposedly you're
Speaker 1: supposed to make a lot of noise if you have,
Speaker 1: you know, anything with you that can make noise, theoretically
Speaker 1: a shovel or anything banging, And supposedly they're more scared
Speaker 1: of us than we are of them. Wave your arms
Speaker 1: and yell. But I gotta tell you, I'm not certain
Speaker 1: that's good advice. But that is what the coyote advocates
Speaker 1: will tell you to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But sometimes when it's you know, late at night,
Speaker 3: and you're outside and you're doing something, maybe taking the
Speaker 3: trash out to the curb or something, and these things
Speaker 3: start carrying on, it is scary, Like the way they're screaming.
Speaker 1: Oh, let me tell you. You can tell. I live
Speaker 1: in an area where there's some woods nearby, and during
Speaker 1: the summertime, when all the windows are open and the
Speaker 1: coyotes have a kill, they get a rabbit or something
Speaker 1: like that, they howl. It's a pack howl, and it's frightening.
Speaker 3: I got going on, all right, yeah, I catch oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, they killed somebody and they're all going to dinner.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and it's and it sounds ugly. And sometimes
Speaker 1: I have. Well, I lived in another area where we
Speaker 1: would find in the morning. I lived about twenty miles
Speaker 1: west of the city and a little in a town
Speaker 1: called Sherburne, which is your It was almost a rural
Speaker 1: community that a lot of horses and big fields and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Uh uh, And we would we would
Speaker 1: find a rabbit pelt on the front lawn and you
Speaker 1: knew that there was around. They had they had a
Speaker 1: rabbit for dinner last night, if you get my drift.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would just be careful. You gotta be
Speaker 1: careful and keeps inside.
Speaker 3: Keep Yeah, but maybe some caller who's listening to us
Speaker 3: now might know something more about it than I do
Speaker 3: that could mention something about what you really should do.
Speaker 3: Because I don't have a gun. I'm not a hunter,
Speaker 3: you know, so I'm not I'm not, you know, equipped
Speaker 3: to handle it, you know. On my side. Listen, I
Speaker 3: know you have all the callers that are hanging on
Speaker 3: the line. So I'm going to wish you a good
Speaker 3: night and thank you for the call, and I'll speak
Speaker 3: to you again soon. I finally took your advice about
Speaker 3: calling earlier.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. And by the way, John One did
Speaker 1: just that. I have is at least in Massachusetts, you
Speaker 1: can buy pepper spray and if you.
Speaker 3: Have peas, that's not a bad radio commercials, it's not.
Speaker 1: A bad option. You just get to make sure you're
Speaker 1: not out there with a windy night because you fire
Speaker 1: the pepper spray and if you're down win from it's
Speaker 1: gonna blow back in your face and it's no fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, Yeah, Well, the way the wind brows from
Speaker 3: the west and the northwest, why I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of it blows because I'm uppill. But yeah, you have
Speaker 3: to be careful of that.
Speaker 1: You got it. Good advice.
Speaker 3: I'll look in today. Thank you very much, and have
Speaker 3: a good night.
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thanks John, we'll talk soon. Have a good one.
Speaker 1: I'm working Memorial Day, but I have a good Memorial
Speaker 1: Day weekend. Thanks March. You're gonna be on the air, yes,
Speaker 1: Monday Night Live. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: Do you march in the local parade day or you're
Speaker 3: too busy for that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I don't. I don't. I did some military time,
Speaker 1: but I'm not I'm not a marcher. I did enough
Speaker 1: marching when they when.
Speaker 3: I was when I was young, I belonged to the
Speaker 3: Sons of the American Legion. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: know what that's about. Familiar organization.
Speaker 1: Dad.
Speaker 3: You know, my dad was the commander and he used
Speaker 3: to leave the parade, you know, so I used to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: Good for you, I got for you more.
Speaker 3: We used to do it a few weeks before. We
Speaker 3: would go to all the cemeteries where people were buried
Speaker 3: from the wars, and we put flags on their greed.
Speaker 1: Yes, that happens around here a lot. We're very patriotic
Speaker 1: here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: That was. That was a lot of work. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: That certainly was. Thanks John, thank you, Yes it.
Speaker 3: Was okay, have a good night, Dan.
Speaker 1: My friend, keep and keep calling. Thanks, good night. Take
Speaker 1: a very quick break here on night Side. It's just
Speaker 1: ten thirty ones who are actually on time. Let's get
Speaker 1: to the newscast. The one line that's open, and people
Speaker 1: have been complaining lately that they can't get through as
Speaker 1: a line open right now, six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 1: ten thirty. Back on night Side.
Speaker 3: It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about coyotes in Brookline, and if
Speaker 1: they're in Brookline, they're probably everywhere. Here in eastern Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Mark is in Austin. Mark, you're next on nightside. Welcome
Speaker 1: back right.
Speaker 4: Ahead, Yes, Dan, good evening, Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen any coyotes, bye, I've seen wild turkeys
Speaker 4: and peacocks and other.
Speaker 1: Turkeys could be by the way, don't And.
Speaker 4: I do support your proposal.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Don't mess with wild turkeys because they could
Speaker 1: be nasty critters.
Speaker 4: They well, they're herbivores. That's the most important thing, you know, they're.
Speaker 1: Herbivores confront the.
Speaker 3: Rabbits.
Speaker 4: And you know the point is that coyotes are dangerous
Speaker 4: predator predators and need to be officially treated as such.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and thank you for agreeing
Speaker 1: with me. All I was saying to you on turkeys
Speaker 1: is they they kind of look a little goofy and
Speaker 1: you figure they're not a problem. But if a turkey
Speaker 1: turns on you, they can do a little bit of damage.
Speaker 1: And just as a word to the wise, is sufficient.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess you know, in Allston, which
Speaker 4: is he populated, I find it reassuring. The only thing
Speaker 4: I don't refined reassuring is the rodents.
Speaker 1: Well, that's another that's get rid of them too.
Speaker 4: For another call.
Speaker 1: Uh you got it, hey, Mark, as always, thanks much,
Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. Appreciate your call. Be well, be well,
Speaker 1: good night. Yep. Let me go next to Patty and
Speaker 1: Wellesley is back.
Speaker 2: Patty, how are you hid?
Speaker 1: How are you Patty? Nice to hear your voice?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, don I just saw a fox go
Speaker 5: right in front of my car in Wellesley. I should
Speaker 5: swear up my street. I almost my heart is out
Speaker 5: of my head.
Speaker 1: A fuck a fox?
Speaker 5: Okay, a fox, A big long, low tail bushy. I
Speaker 5: swear it is that.
Speaker 1: I was whoa, Yeah, we got We have more animals
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood. I think that most of us realized.
Speaker 5: And there's a turkey in Lower Falls in Newton and Wellesley.
Speaker 5: I forget his name, but he's on What's Up Wellesley
Speaker 5: and we haven't seen him in weeks, and everyone's like,
Speaker 5: where is it? I think they call him George, and
Speaker 5: so he's missing. But should I tell you a story
Speaker 5: about my first day in the park in Centennial with
Speaker 5: my sheltie. There's a dog in the park that looks
Speaker 5: like a coyote. Okay, now it's my first day with
Speaker 5: a puppy in the park and I see this like
Speaker 5: I'm on a hill and I see a coyote, I thought,
Speaker 5: with those pointy ears, and I'm like, I am dead,
Speaker 5: And I ran with that dog of mine because I
Speaker 5: thought the dog, that coyote was going to like bite us.
Speaker 5: And I was screaming and it was a dog, but
Speaker 5: I thought it looked exactly like a coyote. And when
Speaker 5: I screamed crazy, it did not even budge. And I
Speaker 5: was running and looking back and screaming. But if it
Speaker 5: was a coyote, hopefully would have run the other way.
Speaker 5: But later, after a month, I saw the dog and
Speaker 5: I said, oh my god, this with a girl and
Speaker 5: it was her tet. I said, did you know your
Speaker 5: dog looks like a coyote? She goes, of course, Dan,
Speaker 5: I swear my heart. I thought I was gonna have
Speaker 5: a heart attack.
Speaker 1: We were we saying what breed was the dog that
Speaker 1: it looked like? Was it across with a coyote?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but you don't want a dog that
Speaker 5: looks like this. And if my friend is listening, I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry. I forget what the dog's name was, but
Speaker 5: it looked exact Spotty like how they are. They're sometimes
Speaker 5: spotty with those pointy ears, yeah, and long and high
Speaker 5: and just they're not nice. And I don't know what
Speaker 5: would you do if you saw a coyote in your face?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, first of all, I would hope that
Speaker 1: I would never be in that situation, that I would
Speaker 1: always be you know, you know wili enough. I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk wiley coyote here, but I want to
Speaker 1: be more wily than the coyote. And I want to
Speaker 1: make sure when I go out, particularly if I have
Speaker 1: one of my grand dogs with me, either Willly the
Speaker 1: Wonder Dog or our Colgi, my daughter's coogy whose name
Speaker 1: is Mustard, I want to make sure that they're always
Speaker 1: on a leash and they're within arms reach. But if
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I saw a coyote, I think
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do is show fear.
Speaker 1: I want to stare it down, and I want to
Speaker 1: if I have something that I can throw at it,
Speaker 1: I will if I have if I have a branch
Speaker 1: or something, I will. I want to go on the
Speaker 1: offense include making noise, because that's what the coyote advocates
Speaker 1: or experts tell us. Because I just think that you
Speaker 1: got to go on the offense. And like you were
Speaker 1: always told as a kid that if you were confronted
Speaker 1: by a dog, the worst thing you could do is
Speaker 1: be fearful and run because they sense fear, and I
Speaker 1: suspect coyotes would sense fear.
Speaker 2: Well, I blid, scream, blady murder.
Speaker 5: I was oking run and I don't know.
Speaker 1: So that's okay. You know, it's a good thing to
Speaker 1: carry pepper spray when you're in a situation like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm serious, you.
Speaker 5: Know, hopefully we're not no, no, no, but pepper spray.
Speaker 1: Pepper spray is legal in Massachusetts. Okay. Uh, it's not
Speaker 1: like you're carrying some weapon that is illegal, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's legal, and it's good to have it, you know,
Speaker 1: particularly if you're out there some night and there's anyone
Speaker 1: who bothers you. You know, you got to make.
Speaker 5: Sure that you that I'm going to put that in
Speaker 5: my dog tree bag. Maybe that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to make sure. You got to make
Speaker 1: sure that you know which way the wind is blowing,
Speaker 1: you know, show you.
Speaker 5: Catch you know, I would probably spray in my face down.
Speaker 6: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: I no, no, no, I know, uh, Patty. I love
Speaker 1: the way you say Don. I'll tell you you have
Speaker 1: a I love the pronunciation, not Dan as I call it,
Speaker 1: but Don. That's it's lovely. I love you. I love you.
Speaker 5: Guess what I made in Canada?
Speaker 1: I got it?
Speaker 5: Why I say dan instead of DM?
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of friends in Canada and a lot of listeners in Canada.
Speaker 1: How do you say the word organization?
Speaker 5: Organization?
Speaker 1: Organization? That proves to me you're Canadian? Absolutely? How do
Speaker 1: you organization? Okay, Canadians say organization the emphasis is sation, organization.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5: I love that. I hope you have a great memorial.
Speaker 5: Thank you for taking my call. You're the best part
Speaker 5: of my whole day, and I would love you. I
Speaker 5: guess what if you want to exchange the Shelta for
Speaker 5: the Corgi for an overnight, I would do it.
Speaker 1: I'd have I'd have to wrest mustard from my daughter,
Speaker 1: but maybe we can work out a temporary deal. I'll
Speaker 1: bet you this shell Shelty. I love Shelty's too. I
Speaker 1: had some neighbors who had Shelty's. They're wonderful dogs. All
Speaker 1: dogs are wonderful. All dogs, all cats, all pets go
Speaker 1: to heaven. You know that, right, of course?
Speaker 5: Yes, but don what about a Shelty Corgie mix?
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 5: Okay, we have to. One day we'll meet up and
Speaker 5: have a nice coffee. Okay.
Speaker 1: I would love it, Patty, I really would. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I really enjoy your cross. Thank you a
Speaker 1: great listener. Call. Love you too, love you too, I
Speaker 1: love all. Right. On that note, we'll take a quick
Speaker 1: break here. And I got u who, I got Rachel
Speaker 1: coming up, I got Alex, I got Lauren down to
Speaker 1: the cape, and I got Laurel Junior and lynn uh.
Speaker 1: And I got one line open. Six one seven is
Speaker 1: the only line open. Now. If dowt the other line,
Speaker 1: you're going to get a busy signal. And we'll take
Speaker 1: this into the tent into the eleven o'clock hour, I hope,
Speaker 1: And if not, we'll find something else to wile the
Speaker 1: night away. As we move slowly, ever so slowly, toward
Speaker 1: the Memorial Day weekend, a beautiful weekend and annoying with
Speaker 1: at the beginning of summer. Hopefully we get at least
Speaker 1: one or two good days this weekend. Buckle up tomorrow,
Speaker 1: drive carefully. I got to be out and about and
Speaker 1: I am not looking forward with the weather forecast as
Speaker 1: it is. Back on Nightside right after this, You're on
Speaker 1: night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. Okay,
Speaker 1: back to the calls we go. We're going to go
Speaker 1: next to Rachel and Quincy. Rachel got any coyotes in Quincy? Rachel?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yes, Dan, But kind of what I want to
Speaker 5: say is, so I have horses, one of my best
Speaker 5: friends where I bored my horse, two horses, my rescue
Speaker 5: horses in Norwell. Part of the thing what happens is
Speaker 5: you're going to remember is these animals habitat has been
Speaker 5: taken away from them, from buildings, from taking down the trees,
Speaker 5: taking down everything. Coyotes are skittish animals. There is a
Speaker 5: hunting season for coyotes, which is sad, but to I
Speaker 5: don't know control, wherever they're coming from whatever. But like now,
Speaker 5: so if people are seeing coyotes now, it's because the
Speaker 5: babies have already been born and they're being protective. They
Speaker 5: need to eat, they need to eat. And I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna tell you a story I have, Like Dan, I
Speaker 5: know you know me, but I have rescue horses.
Speaker 1: No, no, we got the rescue horses. Let me. Let
Speaker 1: me talk to you about coyotes. Your point, they got
Speaker 1: to eat. We have to we have to stop leaving
Speaker 1: food out and all of that, and and that deals
Speaker 1: with bears and stuff. My question. I don't want to
Speaker 1: kill them, Rachel. I just want to relocate them. I
Speaker 1: want to put them in a part of the state
Speaker 1: where they'll be comfortable, uh, and they will be able
Speaker 1: to commune with nature uh, and not commune with people
Speaker 1: who are trying to walk their their small dogs down
Speaker 1: a street in Brookline or Newton, New Quinsy at seven
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and they have to face a coyote.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, and I understand what you're saying. And so
Speaker 5: they're dogs. They are dogs.
Speaker 1: No, I get it.
Speaker 2: No, I get it.
Speaker 1: I do understand that, I really do. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that they don't want they should not be trying
Speaker 1: to coexist with humans and domesticated dogs. They're not domesticated.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: fight with you here. I have I and I don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt.
Speaker 5: No, I am not fighting with you that they're wild animals,
Speaker 5: but when they are taking their land away from them,
Speaker 5: they need to come out. It's the same thing like
Speaker 5: when somebody said turkeys and whatever. And one thing I
Speaker 5: would love to say is it's not just the coyotes
Speaker 5: come to get the little dogs. You have owls, you
Speaker 5: have hawks. Yeah you don't have.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, but I can't. I don't think I
Speaker 1: can catch hawks. I don't think I can catch you know, owls,
Speaker 1: but we could. We can trap coyotes and relocate them.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that. I think we got to
Speaker 1: start thinking about that. That's all I mean. Look, whatever
Speaker 1: the cause is the fact that that that there are
Speaker 1: too many houses, there are too many cars, there are
Speaker 1: too many Americans, whatever you want, know, I'll accept it's
Speaker 1: our fault. But we either live amongst them or allow
Speaker 1: them to live amongst us and deal with the consequences
Speaker 1: or real.
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying when you say you're gonna
Speaker 5: catch them and relocate them there And you have to
Speaker 5: remember the sad part about a coyote is there's a
Speaker 5: lot of hybrids, right, so you get people that throw
Speaker 5: their dogs away. This hybrid dogs coyotes.
Speaker 1: So what So, Rachel, Okay, you've told me what you
Speaker 1: don't want, that you don't agree with me, which is fine,
Speaker 1: no problem, You're you're still my friend. What if anything
Speaker 1: would you do? Or is your position? We just got
Speaker 1: to live with them.
Speaker 5: My thing is, and I totally agree with you, but
Speaker 5: to relocate them. This So what I'm saying is.
Speaker 1: Rachel, do me a favor. You're you're drifting on me
Speaker 1: here and and normally you're better at this, you know,
Speaker 1: and the ones.
Speaker 2: You said to me, you said.
Speaker 1: Rachel, Rachel, We've done five minutes here and I got
Speaker 1: full lines. All I just want to know from you
Speaker 1: is tell me what you want. If you want to
Speaker 1: do nothing, that's okay, you're still my friend. Just tell
Speaker 1: me what I think we should allow to trap and relocate.
Speaker 1: You disagree with me, which is fine. What should we do?
Speaker 5: Joe, No, no, no one agree with you?
Speaker 2: Okay, great, But you can't trap.
Speaker 5: A dog. You can't trap a dog, which is the
Speaker 5: coyote is okay?
Speaker 1: So you've come full circle of me. Rachel. You're telling
Speaker 1: me you agree with me, but you're also telling me
Speaker 1: you don't agree with me, which is fine, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to quite say it. I got to run
Speaker 1: because I got other people. I got to talk to you,
Speaker 1: and I have just done six minutes on the radio. Rachel. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for calling. I appreciate it. But I got
Speaker 1: folks who have been waiting half an hour, like Lauren
Speaker 1: in Highenn's Lauren. I want to get you in here
Speaker 1: before the news break.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead, Hi Dan again, good?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 6: I agree with about eighty percent of what you're saying.
Speaker 6: Here's my here's my idea. Well, first of all, I
Speaker 6: just wanted to let the viewers know another thing that
Speaker 6: you can do. Coyotes are terrified of artificial light. So yeah,
Speaker 6: so what you need to do is get yourself a
Speaker 6: strong go to home depot and by one of the
Speaker 6: strongest that they that they have. And if you ever
Speaker 6: see a pack of coyotes and you shine the artificial
Speaker 6: light at them, they take off running like back out
Speaker 6: of hell.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good to know. That's good to know. I
Speaker 1: do have a pretty powerful flashlight which is.
Speaker 6: Actually terrified of it. Secondly, as far as the relocating,
Speaker 6: I would agree with you with the cubs because those
Speaker 6: will be much easier to trap and relocate. I used
Speaker 6: to do wildlife transportation for wildlife rehabbers, for cups and corruptions.
Speaker 6: I've had baby coyotes in my car. They're absolutely adorable.
Speaker 6: They they do mix with dogs. Like the last caller said,
Speaker 6: here's the thing, how about we instead of relocating the adults,
Speaker 6: and here's another idea, why don't we start dumping more,
Speaker 6: you know, food for them in the woods, like the
Speaker 6: turkeys for instance. Why can't we get some turkeys and
Speaker 6: throw them, throw them?
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: We ship.
Speaker 6: Why can't we The only reason why you guys are
Speaker 6: seeing them is because they're hungry.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I've agree with you. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we should.
Speaker 6: Why do we give them some stock, some cheap stock,
Speaker 6: and just you know, flood the woods with some food
Speaker 6: for them. Now, as far now, as far as coyote attacks,
Speaker 6: there's only been one reported attack of a child being killed,
Speaker 6: and that was in nineteen eighty one. So so everybody
Speaker 6: can stop talking about that. Number two. There's only been
Speaker 6: two humans that have been killed by coyotes as far
Speaker 6: as we know in history, okay, in this country, killed,
Speaker 6: not attacks. Yeah, so that's another thing. Also, you have
Speaker 6: to understand that. And I know that you heard this
Speaker 6: a million times tonight.
Speaker 5: They were here first.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm not sure if they were here first
Speaker 1: of the Native Americans whatever, But yeah, I'm religion. I
Speaker 1: am now ready to give up all the property that
Speaker 1: I own to the coyotes.
Speaker 6: How about we buy some rabbits and shut them out there,
Speaker 6: or some chickens. There's some, you know, And I don't
Speaker 6: even see that we need more turkeys for them. They
Speaker 6: love turkeys. They eat turkeys, they eat you know, maybe
Speaker 6: they're just running out of animals.
Speaker 1: All right, well guess what you know. Look, I'm out
Speaker 1: of time here, but would just I think your idea
Speaker 1: is interesting, Lauren, I really do.
Speaker 6: Also, if you have a chicken coop in the backyard,
Speaker 6: or you have anything in the backyard like a live
Speaker 6: animal coop, you're gonna you're gonna get coyotes.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But so.
Speaker 6: I don't know, let me tell you something. I want
Speaker 6: you to google it when you have when you have
Speaker 6: a moment, if you can remember, just google a baby
Speaker 6: coyote cob and tell me they're not precious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, all these things look you have you? Have
Speaker 1: you have you seen like little baby have you seen?
Speaker 1: Have you seen little baby bears? Have you seen baby
Speaker 1: baby bear cubs? Have you seen baby orang it tanks?
Speaker 6: They're wonderful, theirs in Massachusetts. Most of them are just passed.
Speaker 6: They passed through.
Speaker 1: They don't no, no, no, they're going after the bears too. Hey, Lauren,
Speaker 1: I hate to do this to you. I'm flat out,
Speaker 1: but I got you in before the break. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Michank I hope so thanks. Good night. We're back on
Speaker 1: night side right after the eleven o'clock news