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your support. Bad News for Man's Best Friend. We're gonna

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have to get rid of all of the dogs. Apparently

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they're villains, environmental villains. Apparently they are bad for Guya Earth.

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Dogs are bad for the planet. The headline from mother

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Jones dot com, leftist rag bad News for Man's Best Friend.

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Dogs are environmental villains. Sorry, there I go. Okay now,

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the story was originally published by the Guardian. Mother Jones

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was just republishing it. But regardless, this is the this

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there's there are studies. There's research now, uh huh that

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dogs have extensive and multifarious I've never heard of that

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word before. Multifarious. Would that be like nefarious in many ways?

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Wouldn't that still just be nefarious? But whatever, extensive and

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multi fairyo, I'm gonna try to work that into more sentences.

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I'm just gonna be dropping multifarious here and there, extensive

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and multifarious environmental impacts dogs do. They disturb wildlife, they

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pollute waterways. Okay, oh you know what, Oh, now it

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makes sense. The other day I saw a cocker spaniel

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dumping the whole bunch of plastic straws in the stream,

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and I was like, what is the why is that

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dog doing that? That's so weird. Now it makes sense.

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Polluting the waterways and like harming the sea turtles obviously.

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Also they apparently contribute to carbon emissions dogs do. So look,

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it's science. An Australian review that is not a dog breed,

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by the way. That is a review out of Australia

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of existing studies. So they didn't even do their own studies.

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They looked at all of these other studies. So it's

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sort of a meta analysis, if you will. A study

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of studies. A review of the studies has argued that

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the environmental impact of owned dogs is far greater, more insidious,

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and more concerning than is generally recognized. The author of

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the research goes, but the name is cat Feleine I

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think is the No, I'm kidding, it's actually Professor Bill

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Bateman of Kurtin University. The environmental impact of owned dogs

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is far greater, more insidious, and more concerning than is

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generally recognized. Okay, all right, so what about if we

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were all to just like release the dogs from captivity? Right,

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you are no longer allowed to own a dog, and

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so now all of the dogs, well, I mean those

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that don't just like keep hanging around the house. You know,

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they're going to come back to the house because they

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love you and they want to sleep on the bed

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and all of that. But I'm like, if you just

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like kick them out of the house, you can't live

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here anymore. All the dogs are out, no more owned

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owned dogs. Owned dogs are now not good for the planet.

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So they are out. So they are on the street.

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And do you think then that they may be disturbing

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more wildlife when they're out on the street. I think

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they do. Just all things being equal, I'm thinking a

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dog out on the street is probably gonna be eating

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way more squirrels than a dog that only gets to

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be out in the backyard for a couple hours a day.

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I just think they got a lot more you know, opportunity,

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have way more opportunity. They're gonna you know, have more

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interactions with squirrels at first, at first, because then eventually, yes,

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they kill all the squirrels and then there are no

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more squirrels. Then they're gonna have to move up the

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bigger game and eventually they will have depleted that source.

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Then they'll have to move up to another game, and

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then they will finally come for us, which I kind

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of feel like is what these environmentalists are always angling for,

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because that is really the the only way to preserve

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the planet in its pristine state, which is completely untamed,

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unmanaged and wild. Right, that's what mother nature is, that's

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what the environment is. The only way to preserve that

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is to eliminate all of the billions of people on

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the planet. That's it, which I think is there. I

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think that's the end goal here for a lot of

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these people. Apparently the environmental impact of cats is very

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well known because by cats, cats you want to talk

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about murdering some stuff. Cats are murderous and for no

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reason either. They're like the only animal that hunts just

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for kicks, Like, no, they're not hunting for shoes. No,

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I'm saying they go out and they just take pleasure

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in the hunt. They just do it because it's fun

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to do. And that's apparently also, by the way, why

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they get on you at like, you know, five am,

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five point thirty am. That's why they jump on the

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bed and start like messing with you before you got

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to wake up, because that's prime hunting time and they're like, dude,

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let's go hunting. You're gonna miss out on the hunt.

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That's why they do that. So we apparently have done

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lots of research on the cats, and so now the

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cats are fighting back. They probably funded this research against

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the dogs. The review was published, believe it or not,

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in a publication called Pacific Conservation Biology, and it highlighted

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the impacts of the world's commonest large carnivore in killing

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and disturbing native wildlife, particularly shore birds. Shore birds as

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opposed to the unsuore birds they're not very confident in

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much In Australia. Attacks by unrestrained dogs on little penguins

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in Tasmania may contribute to colony collapse according to computer modeling,

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and that's never steered us wrong. Before a study of

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animals taken to the Australian Zoo Wildlife Hospital found that

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mortality was highest after dog attacks, which was the second

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most common reason for admission to the hospital. You know,

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the number one reason why these cute little Tasmanian penguins

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and others, I guess number one reason they end up

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in the hospital they get hit by cars. Look, if

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you're a wild animal and your number one predator is

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a Chevy and your number two is a dog that

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broke its leash or something, I think you're doing okay

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out in the wild. Seriously, Like the wild is a

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pretty tough place. And if those are your biggest your

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biggest predators that you have to worry about, I'm thinking

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you don't do like the crows do. They've learned. And

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pigeons too, they've learned how not to get hit by

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cars all the time, and they live in the city,

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so maybe, I don't know, Like eventually they these penguins

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will learn, and if they can't learn, I don't know,

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put up a fence along the road trying to save

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these guys. But then, of course, then the car strikes

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as the leading cause of death, that'll go down, and

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then the dogs will go up because the dogs can

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probably jump the fences or something, and then they will

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you know, they'll be they'll be labeled as like the

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number one reason why the animals get attacked or come

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into the hospital, and then like then the pressure campaign

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will really ramp up against the dogs in the This

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is you know what this is like. It's like a

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monkey with a calculator. That's what this reminds me of.

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It's like, we have all this data, and we could

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do all of this stuff with the data, but they

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don't know what they're looking at. They don't understand. There's

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like drawing conclusions. Well, we looked at the number of

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wildlife that have been taken into a particular hospital, and

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while most of them were hit by cars, the number

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two reason was dogs. So therefore dogs are terrible for

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the environment. Dude, dogs are the equivalent of the penguin

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that it attacked. They're both animals. They're on the same level.

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If the person wasn't putting a roof over that dog's head,

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that dog would be out on that short line, way

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more killing, way more penguins. What are you guys even

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doing that down there down Under in Australia? What do

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you even why are you doing this? Do you want

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people to hate you? I think so? All right, if

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media landscape more transparent. Susan says, as a dog owner

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many of many dogs for many years, the government or

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some kind of crazy organization can get my dog when

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they pry her leash out of my well, you know

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the rest, right, Yeah, Well that's the thing too about

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dogs is if they do show up to take your

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dogs and you resist them, the dog sense that, right,

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they're going to key off of your emotion and they're

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going to aid in your fight. But downside, we already

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have a registry of the dogs, so they're going to

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know exactly who is the dog owner, you know in

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like cities like Charlotte where you have to register your dogs,

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and so now they're going to have a list to

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come confiscate your dog. The review of these other studies

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was done published rather in Pacific Conservation Biology, and so

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they looked at a lot of the stuff in these

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studies that were done in Australia. And I did see

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somebody ask a question here, Jonathan said, wait a minute,

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this is Australia. Is it owned dogs or dingoes causing

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the problem. That is a very good question, Jonathan. I

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don't even know the difference between a dingo and a dog.

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I think dingoes are basically dogs that haven't been domesticated, right,

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They look very similar, I think, And so is it

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are the dogs? Are the dogs being blamed for the

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sins of the dingoes? That's not cool? Like the cats

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blaming the dogs for all of the stuff you know

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that goes wrong in the house. Like, that's not cool either.

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Jonathan also points out that I have ignored the dog's

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disgusting habit of gambling illegally. There are infamous there's an

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infamous painting of them in the act. That's true. That's true.

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I forgot about that. We have we have, you know,

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visual evidence, and they're smoking. That's an environmental no no too.

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In the United States, studies have found that deer foxes

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and bobcats were less active in or avoid wilderness areas

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where dogs were allowed. Okay, so I'm failing to see

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the problem here. So if I've got the dog, I'm

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less likely to have deer foxes and bobcats. Okay, I'm

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not sure that's true. Okay, because in my neighborhood there

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are people posting all the time on the Facebook group

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about their dogs have gone missing, and people spotting foxes

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and coyotes and stuff in the area, and it seems

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like they're being it seems like the dogs are getting targeted,

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you know, So I'm not so sure about that. So

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I don't think I want a bobcat around my property.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I know coexist and all of that,

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but they don't recognize property lines, you know. And my

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HOA doesn't allow me to put up a fence except

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one of those ones with the slots in it, or

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the slats rather, and so they can just walk right

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through them. That's not much protection at all. I don't

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want bobcats at my back door, that's me. I don't

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want a rabid fox, you know, under my car. No, hey, guys,

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priorities here. Other research shows that, get this one. This

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was amazing to me. I had no idea. You probably

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have not either. Research shows that insecticides. I know you're thinking, like,

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how does this tie in with dogs. Insecticides from flea

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and tick medications kill aquatic invertebrates when they wash off

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into waterways. Well, how are you even tracking that? First off?

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How are you tracking a like what a flea collar?

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That's what we're talking about here. The drops go on

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their necks and then it absorbs into the body. So

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what are they peeing it out? And they're peeing it

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into the waterway or something? How many dogs peeing into

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waterways are we talking about here? Most dogs I see

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and have had, they pee on grass. They don't go

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into the water to pee. They pee on the grass,

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so then it filters through the grass, in which case

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then I got questions for the grass. What are you

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even doing over there? Grass? You're just laying there. Your

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main job besides looking good, is well and also to

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you know, foment the growth of weeds. Your job is

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to filter the rain water that hits you before it

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gets to the waterways. That's why we pay all of

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the taxes here. If you try to pave over the grass,

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then you got to pay more taxes because grass is better.

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But if grass isn't even doing its job enough to

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filter out you'rein from all of the dogs. I don't

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even understand how you would track that let alone. I

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don't believe the results. I do not believe these results.

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Somebody actually said, hey, let's find out how much flea

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and tick collar meds are getting into the waterways, and

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then they devised a method to determine that I don't

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buy it. I'm just not buying it. I think they

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probably got the same kind of medications and they just

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dumped a bunch of it into some waterway and it

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killed a bunch of stuff, and they're like, oh, yeah,

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look at that. It can kill them. Well, yes, it

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probably could kill them. It's like the what was it,

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the famous study where they gave the rats all of

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the sweet and low or something like, look at that

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kill the rats? You know? Well, yeah, you gave them

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like seventeen billion times the lifetime dosage in a single hit.

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I'm pretty sure anything in that amount is going to

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kill somebody. And what's more, dog poop it can leave

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scent traces and affect soil chemistry and plant growth. I

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guess in a bad way because I always thought the

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poop would help with the with the growth of the

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like the lawns and stuff. Pee no, no, pe will

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kill the lawns. But poop. I understood poop is a

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good thing, didn't. The indigenous peoples put the poop in

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the crops and make them grow, and then taught the

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stupid pilgrims how to farm with the poop technique. Didn't

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they do that? This is so confusing, And don't even

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get me started now on the pet food. Oh my gosh,

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that really increases the carbon paw print. Here here's a

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like the left has jumped the shark because they keep

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trying to take the most unpopular positions on stuff recently.

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Have you noticed this, Like we're gonna take your kids.

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Dogs are bad? Like what are you guys doing? It's

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the lefties can never go too far and this is

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the result of it. A story published at The Guardian

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reproduced at mother Jones dot com as part of the

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Climate Desk collaboration. Let mean, just think about this. Somebody

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not only did somebody have to do the research and

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then submit this paper to the Pacific Conservation Biology Magazine

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or whatever. Somebody then had to review it and say yeah,

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let's publish that. They publish it, and then you've got

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the guard reporter and editors who see this study and say, yeah,

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let's do a story on that, and then Mother Jones

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follow suit and that's how and then I'm downstream of them,

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except they're reporting it as if like, oh, you know,

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it's just very bad for the earth. All of these

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domesticated dogs just pooping and peeing everywhere and chasing birds down,

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and then you realize they eat. It's true, dogs eat.

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The carbon footprint of pets is significant. A twenty twenty

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study found again, here's another one. Someone did a study

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on this found that the dry pet food industry had

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an environmental footprint of around twice the land area of

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the UK, which makes sense because I think that they've

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basically de industrialized by this point, so there really isn't

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a whole lot of emissions going on over there. I

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think it's also not very big anymore. I mean it

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used to be very big, right, that whole empire going,

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but not anymore. But the entire dry pet food industry

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has an environmental footprint of twice the land area of

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the UK. So what we're converting emissions into land miss

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that that does not seem to me to be a

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one for one. I don't know, a conversion, you know,

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that's are you saying that all of the UK's footprint

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doubled is the size of all of the footprint of

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however many pet food producers there are, I guess in

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the world. Okay, now do a fact farm, Now do

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some factory farm. Oh my gosh, I just realized dogs

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do eat They eat meat too. Oh dang it. That's

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probably what drives their score up or down, depending on

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what's the negative there, Jay says Pete, I have not

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registered my dogs the thirty years I have lived in Charlotte. Oh. Sorry,

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I should not have said that on the air. One

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of my dogs was killed by a buck during the

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rut on Thanksgiving twenty twelve. I'm sorry to hear that.

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So here's one of the things though, and I don't

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want to get too graphic about it, but I'll tell

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you the story. A couple of months back. Well, I

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guess about a year ago, we had somebody in the

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neighborhood and they had a deer die on their fence

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because the deer tried to jump over the fence and

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the fence had those little spiky things on the top,

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you know, to prevent or kill teenagers from jumping over

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the fence. But a deer jumped over and landed on it,

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impaled itself and died. Side story. There is a very

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few organizations and agencies will come out and remove that carcass. Yeah,

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it was a whole thing on the Facebook group too.

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It also no more spikes on the fences, so that

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HOA rules went into effect. There just the flat top fences,

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so if the deer does misjudge and they land on it,

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they won't die. One more reason then to put a

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dog in the yard and the deer won't try to

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jump through your fence, right, seems like that would be

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like are we giving enough credit? Like you got to

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look at both sides of the ledger here, right, If

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a dog's mere presence in your yard is going to

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keep the deer away, and you're like, oh my gosh,

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that's a negative environmental impact. Yeah, but maybe the dog's

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presence kept the deer away from you know, the murderous fence,

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and so that's a net positive for the deer. Right now,

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there are some other benefits that the researchers do point to,

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like you know, the effect on the owner's mental and

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physical health. Right, people will probably go out and like

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they love their dogs, emotional support dogs and all dogs like,

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they love their dogs, they enjoy having them around. They

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bring them joy and laughter and stuff. Not to mention,

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I mean there's a whole like TikTok genre of dog

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videos and stuff. I mean, you just be putting all

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those people out of work. People will probably go out

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and really enjoy the environment around them too. Right, So

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you go walking with your dog, if you don't have

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a dog, you're probably not walking as much as you're

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walking with the dog, right you know, no, no, no,

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I totally would walk by the dog. No, you have

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a fenced in yard, you're opening the door, you're letting

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the dog go outside, and you're closing the door, and

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you're going back to the game, like that's what's happening there.

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But if you don't have a f you got to

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walk that dog. And if you don't have a dog

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at all, right, you're not going for those walks. And

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they say, like, look, if you're going out into nature

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and you're walking around with the dog, maybe you become

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more protective of the environment. See, So there are some

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benefits also the companionship of the dog. Right. Sometimes in

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some people's cases, it's literally the only reason they have

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to get out of bed in the morning. They got

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some thing that's depending on them and they love it,

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and so that's otherwise they would just be like too

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depressed PTSD whatever. They're like, I'm not doing it. In

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this review, the researchers attributed the extent of the environmental

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impacts to the sheer number of dogs globally, as well

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as the quote lax or uninformed behavior of dog owners. Okay,

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I'm on board with this. Now that is true. Okay,

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this part is true. It's never This is what the

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dog whisperer. If you've never seen an episode, I'm going

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to tell you the whole every episode it ends the

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same way. Okay, it's the owner's fault every single time.

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If your dog is misbehaving, it's your fault. Okay, the

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dog owners are the problem. The dogs are just pack animals.

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They're gonna do whatever you tell them to do and

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want them to do because you're the pack leader. But

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if you don't assume the role as pack leader, they're

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going to try to be pack leader and they don't

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know how to lead a pack of humans. We don't

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know how to lead packs of humans. Why do you

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think the dog is going to know that. So that's

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always the end result that the dog owner stinks. Okay,

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So if you want to attribute all of this to

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the uninformed behavior of dog owners, I am with you there,

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because the biggest problem I have with dogs is their owners. Really,

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it really is a simple way to mitigate against the

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worst impacts was to keep dogs leashed in areas where

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restrictions apply, and to maintain a buffer distance from nesting

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or roosting shore birds. And they say, maybe some dog

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exclusion zones, maybe a suitable for some areas, sustainable dog

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food production maybe if nothing else, they say, pick up

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your own dog poop. Yes, please, for the love of me,

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pick up your dog poop. I'm tired of seeing the

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nasty comments and the pictures of people's dog poop on

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the sidewalks in my HOA Facebook group. I don't understand

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why people take these pictures. I do not, but they do,

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and they post it. Look all what eyes pick up

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after your dough? Like, just stop it. I don't want

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to see dog poop on my Facebook feed, oh owners? Man? Alright,

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A couple of messages. This is from Jan who says

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you don't want to see dog poop on your Facebook feed,

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but you avidly follow politics. There is a disconnect here.

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I don't quite get what's more of a visual thing,

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I think, And I got some tweets here. These are

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Pete tweets at Pete Calener. Melissa says, get up and

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open the door, let the dog out. Police the dog

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opens the door anytime he likes, with an electronic collar

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and a high tech automatic pet door, Get up, you're funny.

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And then she got a picture here of that's pretty cool. See,

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that's the problem we had. We had it. Christy and

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I bought our house years ago and it had a

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dog door in the back door, but we didn't have

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any dogs. We did have cats, and they loved it

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after they figured it out, which occurred after they weren't

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terrified of it anymore. But once they got through it

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and they realized how to get through it, they loved it.

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And they went in and out all the time, and

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they would bring us all sorts of presents, lots of shrews, voles,

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a bird. Well, to be fair, we never got the bird.

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We just saw the blood and feathers all around the

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dining room one time and that was it. I don't

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know what happened. We never found the birds. I don't

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know by the way, shrews nasty. Oh gosh, those things

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are nasty. One time one of the cats brought in

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a vole, yeah, a big no sorry, a mole, an

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actual mole. Those things are hideous, Oh my gosh, especially

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in the middle of the night when you're bleary eyed

471
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:29,960
and you're like, what's that running across the top of

472
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,839
my head? That's that is a terrifying experience. But they

473
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did save Christy once from a cockroach, which they also

474
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brought in but then released, because that's kind of their jam.

475
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I don't know if you're aware of this about cats,

476
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,279
but they they like to bring it in and then

477
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,799
drop it and it's not dead. Oh and they murdered

478
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,400
tons of lizards. But anyway, we had a cat door

479
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:58,079
and they loved going in and out. I have not

480
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,839
seen the automatic one. We had the flap, just the

481
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,480
plastic flap on it, you know. And little known fact

482
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:10,680
about those doors, other animals can use them to enter

483
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:17,440
as well, so it's not one way. So and one

484
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,039
day we ended up with a with another cat under

485
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,759
the bed and it looked like our cat. We thought

486
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,039
it was our cat. Turned out not to be our cat.

487
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,000
It was some neighbor's cat and then had come into

488
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,480
our house. I don't know why and why it made

489
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,039
its way up to the bedroom and took a nap

490
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,640
under our bed, but that's what it did. It's all

491
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,599
a distraction. Tweets was this dog article written by the

492
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,519
Australian version of Taylor Lorenz. It's a good question. It

493
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,799
sounds kind of like it, and Russ, he says, hear

494
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,160
me out. What if instead we get rid of the

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00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,759
Guardian and Mother Jones folks and anybody else who supports

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00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:00,599
this idea, we'd get the Reduction and Environmental Pact. Plus,

497
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,599
the world is a happier place because we still have

498
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,720
all the dogs, but we don't have these miserable skulds.

499
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,920
It's a win win. I like it. Russ. Yeah, if

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,599
your species is facing extinction because you can't avoid cars,

501
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,400
you're kind of self selecting and you don't deserve to continue. Well,

502
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:23,000
that's why possums are possums. Their life spans only like

503
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,960
two years in the wild. So I do have some

504
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:33,680
bad news though for these Australian researchers. The bad news

505
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,960
is there is a biotech startup in San Francisco. It's

506
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,599
called loyal, and the company announced that the FDA has

507
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,200
certified a daily pill that it has developed. It's called

508
00:32:49,400 --> 00:33:00,559
Loy Dash two, so very marketable Loyal Lloy two the pill.

509
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The FDA says the pill has a reasonable expectation of

510
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effectiveness in extending the lifespan of senior dogs. The FDA's

511
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Center for Veterinary Medicine must still confirm the drug safety

512
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,720
and the company's ability to manufacture it at scale before

513
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:26,200
veterinarians can prescribe it to eligible dogs. Australian researcher's hardest hit.

514
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,119
If dogs live longer, they're going to have more environmental

515
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,799
impact and these people are going to go nuts. So

516
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the eligible dogs are ten years or older and weighing

517
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:43,839
at least fourteen pounds. It's more feasible to do longevity

518
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:47,000
testing in animals that have a shorter life span than humans.

519
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,279
Of course, this is Henry Miller writing a DC journal.

520
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The problem is the process can still be lengthy and expensive.

521
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:58,759
Trials of drugs or other interventions to promote longevity are

522
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:03,480
notoriously difficult. As the classic cartoon illustrated, you know you

523
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,759
got two scientists. They're standing in front of a lab

524
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:07,759
bench and one of them says that the liquid in

525
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,679
the flask that he is holding, he's holding it up,

526
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,199
and he's like, yeah, may very well bring about immortality,

527
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,119
but it's going to take forever to test it. Yeah,

528
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,559
that's the okay. So the company is conducting trials with

529
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,159
some dogs receiving the actual treatment and others receiving placebo pills,

530
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:32,519
both beef flavored. A twenty twenty three Pew Research Center

531
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,519
found forty nine percent of American households own at least

532
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:39,440
one dog, and they all go out to the same

533
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,199
pub and brewery as you do when you do. Ninety

534
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,119
seven percent of pet owners consider their animals to be family.

535
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Fifty one percent not only consider their pets to be

536
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,599
a part of the family, but say they are as

537
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,280
much a part of their family as a human member,

538
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,159
which I think depends on the human members in your family. Well.

539
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,920
The company Loyal hopes to price their treatment under one

540
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:12,800
hundred dollars per month. Loyal previously received a reasonable Expectation

541
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,679
of Effectiveness certification for another longevity drug that one targets

542
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:27,079
the large breeds like Great danes, but that treatment requires injections,

543
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719
and that's expected to take longer to reach the market.

544
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Loyal is not alone in pursuing veterinarian longevity solutions. There

545
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,000
are other biotech firms that are working on pet weight

546
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:49,199
loss drugs similar to the human drug o zenpic. Okay,

547
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,199
I'm drawing the line on this one, okay, because your

548
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,360
dog only eats what you give it. Once again, that's

549
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,760
a you problem. If you got an obese dog or cat,

550
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,199
that's your fault. That's not the dog or cat's fault.

551
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,400
That's your fault. You shouldn't be injecting your dog with

552
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,199
ozen pic because you can't stop feeding your own dog.

553
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,639
Like that's stupid. But then again, we live in very

554
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,880
stupid times, so I expect it that'll probably be on

555
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,440
the market like asap, that one will, Yeah, and it'll

556
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,079
probably cost a ton of money. And then you've got

557
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:36,400
another competitor, right, You're gonna have more competition for these drugs,

558
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,760
so people who actually need the drugs for diabetes purposes

559
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,320
and such, they're now going to be competing not just

560
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,559
with Hollywood starlets that want to drop ten pounds before

561
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,559
the shooting of their next movie. No, no, Now they're

562
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,840
going to be competing with every you know, fat fee

563
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,400
line and obese pooch. That's that's not cool. Come on, people,

564
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:01,199
we're better than this. All right. That'll do it for

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this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could

566
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567
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571
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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.

