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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tim Duckworth. Once again audio only. Sorry for all

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<v Speaker 1>those out there who want to look at our beautiful faces,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going to have to wait for the time

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<v Speaker 1>being quick one today. Did a quick one last time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do a quick one today. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we could file this under housekeeping items, as Tim and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do the whole drop ad possibly exchange

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<v Speaker 1>players for our ongoing PGT fantasy We got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with it. He is now officially kicking my ass

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<v Speaker 1>in this thing. He is up about eleven hundred points

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<v Speaker 1>after PGTPLO Series and Super High Rollable. Those were combined

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<v Speaker 1>into one thing for our fantasy draft. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, I blame team Jeremy. Yeah one, Jeremy Becker. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I went out on a limb and I decided not

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<v Speaker 1>to swap out Jeremy Becker for somebody on your team.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably would have went with China Reim or John Reordan.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been great, because you know, Gino Reeim

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<v Speaker 1>won the PGTPOLO series, won the twenty five K at

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<v Speaker 1>the end had an incredible run of it throughout and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously in Super High Rollable PLO, John Ordan wins

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<v Speaker 1>the damn thing. So you know, I just get absolutely smashed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thank you Jeremy Becker for that part. And

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<v Speaker 1>then to the other Jeremy, Jeremy Osmas, who decided to

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<v Speaker 1>basically no show for the PGTPLO series other than I

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<v Speaker 1>think one cash, yeah, one cash, and then did definitely

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<v Speaker 1>no show for the Super High Rollable PLO because, as

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<v Speaker 1>I was told by his friend Seth Davies, he woke

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<v Speaker 1>up sick on that day even though he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had action listed on poker Steak. I was helping to

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<v Speaker 1>promote it through the Poker Goro channels that people could

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<v Speaker 1>buy action of him on poker Steak. I see, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an article on poker Steak that says, if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>basically the title is Jeremy Osmas is basically a lock

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<v Speaker 1>for Super High Roller Bowl PLO. So I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy wakes up sick and doesn't play. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the whole thing is unbelievable. And listen, you wake

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<v Speaker 1>up sick on that day. I get it, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fire out the hunter K. Could have

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<v Speaker 1>come late, could have Max late, rege late the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>took the whole first day off, you know, did late

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<v Speaker 1>Max late Max Max late wretch absolutely possibly Max might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the absolute last person to get into the field.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the champion. John reorded, okay, so you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the way, he also on that day didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play the hundred k, but he did play the fifteen K.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's just absolute unbelievable. Couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get points for me in the fifteen K, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just got absolutely smashed. I am now getting crushed. So

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<v Speaker 1>we got to try and write the ship here for

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<v Speaker 1>NAPT Las Vegas, which started today. Right now it is

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<v Speaker 1>two h two pm here in Las Vegas. NAPT Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas kicked off today a couple of hours ago, believe

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am or the first events. I'm gonna be down

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<v Speaker 1>there on what sorry, on Tuesday. For sure, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be down there at some point this week as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone who wants to buy some action of me,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find it on poker Steak. Sorry for the

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<v Speaker 1>uh shill. Well sure, but you know yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I haven't been called a shill in

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<v Speaker 1>a while by Alan Kessler, so I might as well

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<v Speaker 1>do some shilling and hopefully he can, you know, start

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<v Speaker 1>posting on Twitter about me shilling some more. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have two bullets in the eleven hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>open and the fifty three hundred dollars main. I'll post

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<v Speaker 1>it on poker Steak, So get in there if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to. It has been selling out. So maybe people

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm hot, Maybe people think I'm gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you do do for a win.

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<v Speaker 1>on PokerGO dot com slash rules and tim Yes, before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the fantasy, so the people out there

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<v Speaker 1>know that we make good on these giveaways.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a winner, which announce we have multiple winners,

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<v Speaker 2>but the one that matters the most is the Poker

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Podcast winner. A lot of you fired off all

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<v Speaker 2>those entries, all those raffle tickets. A couple reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to me by a DM, you know, wanting to find

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<v Speaker 2>out if they had won, sad that they hadn't received

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<v Speaker 2>an email. But the winner, Matthew Petrie, he will be

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<v Speaker 2>representing the Pokego Podcast come the PGT million dollar Championship

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<v Speaker 2>from West Virginia. I believe he's gonna send me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bio so we can kind of talk a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more about him. But he said he started listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us last year. It's been great, so worthy winner there,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to represent us. He's gonna fly that Pokego

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast flag, hopefully take it down.

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<v Speaker 1>I just looked up Matthew Petrie on the old Hendon

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<v Speaker 1>mop Oh. Yeah, I found seventeen hundred and ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in total live earnings. I'm assuming this is the

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<v Speaker 1>right profile because it says from West Virginia. Must be

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<v Speaker 1>interestingly and coincidentally, he has a cash. He has two

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<v Speaker 1>cashes on record, one twenty twenty two, but the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to point out from last year, basically

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<v Speaker 1>one year ago November last year, napt Las Vegas. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in the NAPT Cup he cashed for one thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars. So hopefully his third entry for Matthew pat

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<v Speaker 1>is something you know, PGT Million Dollar Championship, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>final table in the money. Maybe he wins the damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be absolutely sweet. So congrats to you, Matthew.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know that just goes to show forever

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<v Speaker 1>everyone out there that doesn't think that they necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. Yes, it's real. Yes, we do give this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff away. So every time we tell you to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go do it. Okay, it's very simple, it's

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<v Speaker 1>generally free for the most part. You know, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>giveaway was a bunch of free raffle tickets and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Get on in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, we you know, we bring it back next year

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<v Speaker 2>and and uh get someone else in the championship.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's go, let's go, people, come on, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this, uh this fantasy stuff that we got

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I don't even remember all the damn rules

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<v Speaker 1>for this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You say this every time. It's still condesce.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I really don't remember all the rules. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think I actually get we have to uh from the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I really have to have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop and replace, and then we we have.

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<v Speaker 1>To drop one player and add a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we locked two other players and then

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<v Speaker 2>we can do a switch throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went first last time. You should go first system.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's drop one, add one and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>luck players to swap one, swap one. There's a drop two.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to swap, it's chop one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the teams currently are I have Jeremy Osmons, Jeremy Becker,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to drop anyone from that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you should be dropping Jeremy Osmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean I could drop Jeremy Becker.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he doesn't. That is he's found a new profession.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know, but he is now

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<v Speaker 1>live streaming bowling wagers as the only person in the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rock Bowling Alley.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very It was actually very good watching. I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>On Sunday evenings. He was literally the only person in there.

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<v Speaker 1>On his Instagram cheering, dancing, yelling into the camera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable. He has good form though, Yeah, good so yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My team Osma Specker, Shulman, Burke, and Fox, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have Gino Reem, Samsoverroll, John Ordan, Andrew Liechtenberger and Mickey Duck.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so who am I gonna drop? Who am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna drop? I'm going to drop Alex Foxen Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I am going to add Jason Kuhn.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Okay, you are gonna do what pretty easy drop.

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<v Speaker 2>I added him just for the Palos theories. He kind

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<v Speaker 2>of failed me. Michael Juweck, you are gone see you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to add Steven Chidwick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. He's in town. That's a good one, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you always have the good ones. It's just unbelievable. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I know you can't slap him all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>now how's that to protect two additional players we.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta protect too? So as are my kinder for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Kuhn and Childwick are locked on our teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do any swapping or locking of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to protect Nick Shulman and Jeremy Osmas, and

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to protect too. I mean, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute slam dunk person that you should protect.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think there is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, yes, there is. What are you stupid? Come on?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I just help you?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Sam s Oliver, that's so yeah, Okay, that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>Because we know he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Already playing Mystery Boundy. Therefore you should because he's the

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<v Speaker 1>only one out of all the players in a tournament already.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're pretty old even though, that's why. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was leaning. Ah, I'm just trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>my second I think I I'm gonna lean towards Saverigle

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<v Speaker 2>and China protect those two King John the boys. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta I gotta let you, let you be do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to switch?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this is only for PGT events as

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<v Speaker 1>part of TCH, so everyone everyone is aware out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's eight there's eight PGT qualifying events as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the NPT Las Vegas schedule. I am going to swap.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can take Reordan or Lucky Chow you that's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking John Reordan and I'm giving you Michael Burke.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind that. I don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just you know what, I'm just I need

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<v Speaker 1>to mix it up. I need to do something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm behind, So I'm switching it up, going with the

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<v Speaker 1>hot hand that is John Reordan. I mean, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>the guy has won one point two five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>He might just, you know, go to go on vacation rolling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Um say, like, do I even I Jeremy Becker? I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you can only swap Jeremy for Chewie.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but do I want him? Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>to you, I think Chewie might have been more like

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I will I will be fully transparent with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer to keep Jeremy Becker on my team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm you know what, I don't let you

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<v Speaker 2>have him because you know he he a. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let him get you some points because I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>far ahead. I'm gonna keep Lucky Chewie. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know Nick Shulman's middle name?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a him?

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's kind of a like a weird name.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking maybe it's like Jeremy or like something

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<v Speaker 1>like something that would align with my my team. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Chino Reem, Sam Solivrol, Michael Burke, Andrew Lichtenberger,

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a fight, all right. So yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>are eight events as part of the npt LAS Vegas schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>these PGT specific events. I know Poker News will be

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<v Speaker 2>They have nothing on right now, so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reporting of the NPT Cup, but yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>both of them and open by the way, open, pokuss open,

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<v Speaker 2>focustars open, Yeah, because he said an NPT Cup before.

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<v Speaker 2>The poker dot will be there too. But for those

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<v Speaker 2>of that you are unaware, download the poker Stas Live

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<v Speaker 2>See who's in. I clicked on the event today, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Odb's in for two bullets already. But yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>can see who's in, the chip counts, you know, the structures,

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<v Speaker 2>Stas Live app is definitely probably the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>sweat this entire series. Whether you're here playing, oh you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're you're at home just trying to get a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, this will be a fun series both

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<v Speaker 1>to play as you and I are and then also

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<v Speaker 1>to follow along with. I'm certainly excited for it. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've talked about it many times, but this

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<v Speaker 1>series is it's a lot of fun. The Poker Stars

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<v Speaker 1>product is incredible. You know, we've obviously seen it for

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<v Speaker 1>many many years as it relates to the EPT and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the other big stuff. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NAPT is still still newer in its retire turn.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the third year since it's been back, so

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like foot traffic and all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>the news all the time, especially Tim and I because

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<v Speaker 1>the property is freaking awesome, Okay, I mean everything's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much brand spanking new. The conference area where the NAPT

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas events are held is awesome. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so everything on the strip is pretty much a freaking disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, going a little bit further down kind

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<v Speaker 1>they got good restaurants there. It's it's awesome. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't been to Resorts Well that I would highly

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you check it out. The poker room itself. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the poke room isn't where the NPT events are played.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the NPT events up in the conference center,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Poke room itself a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Robbie Strazinski, friend of the podcast, has his

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<v Speaker 1>Mixed Game Festival coming up at the Resorts World Poker Room,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very nice, big, open, spacious, all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, but you know, maybe I'll make my way

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<v Speaker 1>down there. Depends how things go. It depends if I

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<v Speaker 1>have any money left from NYPT.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the big thing. I need to have some

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<v Speaker 1>All right. While I have you, I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about this WSB docu series that's coming out

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, November fourth, is done by Dustin and I

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<v Speaker 1>Noddi's met Artisans on Fire. It's been kind of teased

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<v Speaker 1>and talked about for a little bit, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>last you know, a week two weeks or so, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot more of the poker players and industry

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<v Speaker 1>people involved start to put messages out there saying like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>WSP Paradise time. It's finally coming out on Tuesday, November fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>Go watch it. I'm excited for all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and I are recording this podcast on Monday, November fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll likely air on sorry, on Monday, November third. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>likely air on November fourth, and that's when you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the first episode of this docu series on

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<v Speaker 1>the WSB YouTube channel. But I just want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you are you anticipating thinking, you know, obviously there's been

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<v Speaker 1>of like this is what poker needs messaging, So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you hoping to see?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, firstly, I the whole book needs more of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in a way it is true. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we said that about Game of Gold when that came out,

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<v Speaker 2>that we need more than just you know, poker hands,

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<v Speaker 2>tournament's cash games. We were supposed to see a season

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<v Speaker 2>two of that hasn't really happened. So I think a

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<v Speaker 2>it out of this. It's probably going to be very good,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they think, hey, let's just keep doing this

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<v Speaker 2>non stop. But obviously we have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>any non streaming when it's come So when you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>like documentaries, it takes you know, a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>to put this together, and a lot of time also

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<v Speaker 2>means a lot of money. So although a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us die hards want to see you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we would probably watch you know, a football live version

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<v Speaker 2>of everyone in poker right without a doubt. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as easy as that, right. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one day it will be a cheaper thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's what people need to understand first,

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is not an easy thing when they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to roll this out every

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<v Speaker 2>week going forward for the rest of time. Coming back

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<v Speaker 2>to the video, you know, I'm going into it with

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much a clean slate. I'm not going to expect

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be, you know, an Emmy Award winning show,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not expecting it to be kind of trash.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to just come in with a clean slate,

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<v Speaker 2>watch it for what it is, you know, eight episodes

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<v Speaker 2>or ten episodes, whatever it ends up being. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch it, absorb it, you know, try and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it from both being in the media but also

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<v Speaker 2>just being a poker fan. But yeah, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have a read on what this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I don't know if this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be we just are they just telling stories of these

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<v Speaker 2>main stars or is there more to it is Is

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<v Speaker 2>it going to build into some kind of one big

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<v Speaker 2>cliffhanger at the end or something. I don't really know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm kind of okay, not knowing the ending already,

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<v Speaker 2>so no, I'm excited to see it. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be tuning in to watch it obviously. Hope it's excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they do more of this stuff. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to set the bar to or expect

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<v Speaker 2>too much right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm looking forward to everything

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<v Speaker 1>that comes out of it as well. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see and then I think we did we did

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<v Speaker 1>like Game of Gold recaps, right, like we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>like each episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, or maybe every like a couple episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>we did something together.

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<v Speaker 1>So we should maybe do the same thing. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're just maybe we don't have to follow

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<v Speaker 1>up every single episode, but you know, we'll, well, every

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<v Speaker 1>time we hop on the podcast, we can just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about what happened on this latest episode or

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot and see if we can get i don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a snapshot of what people are saying and thinking out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, we'll go from there. I do agree that,

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<v Speaker 1>content from the industry. I also understand what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, being in it, that this stuff takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time, resources, money, and it's not necessarily always

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<v Speaker 1>there unfortunately, So that's you know, a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>struggle or an obstacle for the industry to get by.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Part of me thinks that if we had

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<v Speaker 1>the creative minds and the notable storylines that we do now,

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<v Speaker 1>but around fifteen years to when money was falling from

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<v Speaker 1>the sky and poker, that would have been like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect situation because then we have done a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. It would have been supported by just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dump trucks of money from online poker sites

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<v Speaker 1>and like all this sort of stuff. Right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't have all that money you know, falling

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<v Speaker 1>from the sky in the industry anymore. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit difficult. So you definitely need to see more of

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate return on things, or at least that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what's expected. So it's it's hard and it's a struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure you know plenty of people out there

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<v Speaker 1>who are content creators that you know, experience every single

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<v Speaker 1>day where they're just grinding out content, putting in time, effort, resources,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just hard, but yeah, but I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>it and we'll see, uh, we'll see what comes out

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<v Speaker 1>again Tuesday, November fourth, the WSP YouTube channel, and we'll see, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think one something that could change the way that

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of content works in our industry is just

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<v Speaker 2>not just how far kind of AI goes, but how

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<v Speaker 2>far AI goes with someone that is very knowledgeable of

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<v Speaker 2>it and very interested in this, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, if you see much of this sour stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the sourra AI stuff is pretty bad, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of it is world class. Looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Spielberg movie. So if you can get the right

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<v Speaker 2>person that is can excel that but also once to

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<v Speaker 2>tell these stories, then I feel like this stuff could

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, costs wise, time wise, trimmed, renowned dramatically,

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<v Speaker 2>and we could see more kind of non you know,

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<v Speaker 2>standard poker stuff coming out, you know, maybe in the

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<v Speaker 2>near distant future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think that's a general observation of

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<v Speaker 1>all of AI. You know, I think that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there who just think that AI

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<v Speaker 1>is just doing everything and anything. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>say this as listen, I'm not an expert in the space,

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<v Speaker 1>but I use these AI models every single day, and

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to work with it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to feed it prompts and you have to constantly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>critique and edit and adjust and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like you said, you know, if somebody just says, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>make me a poker movie, like, it's probably gonna spit

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<v Speaker 1>out some dog shit, okay, But like if you start

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<v Speaker 1>with that, you give it a script, then you refine, refine, refine, refine,

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<v Speaker 1>and you put in a lot of hours and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time and hundreds, if not thousands of prompts

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<v Speaker 1>and all this sort of stuff, then yeah, you're likely

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a very very good product at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But it still involves that human creativity, that human engine

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<v Speaker 1>behind the AI engine to make it all work, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's also where I'm like, I break

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<v Speaker 1>from the people that say AI is just going to

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<v Speaker 1>take over the world, because I don't know, at least

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<v Speaker 1>right now, you still need humans behind it, like doing

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. And yeah, it certainly helps you do

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<v Speaker 1>your job better and it can help you be much

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<v Speaker 1>more efficient and it can do a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>for you in less time than it would take you

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But that doesn't mean that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't involve humans or it doesn't need humans. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, right now, I'm kind of just in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. Like I don't think that it's a nothing burger,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also don't think it's an end all be all,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just kind of somewhere in the middle. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, you know, yeah, eventually, I think somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is probably going to create something poker wise, whether that's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>create me a new season of high six Poker using

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<v Speaker 1>these players, and like then then you have to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, refine, refine, refined, so you get that end product, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe somebody creates a new poker movie or a

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<v Speaker 1>new poker show or whatever it is. But it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot of creativity and a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody, but it'll probably eventually happen and it'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome, right, But it's not like everyone's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pick it up and do it. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you've seen some We've obviously seen stuff on social

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<v Speaker 1>media where it's like AI generated images and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that like the jacket space is upside

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<v Speaker 1>down and it's like, you know, it's like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff is you know, not exactly perfect

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<v Speaker 1>just yet, but you know it'll it'll get there and

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<v Speaker 1>it's constantly improving. But anyway, we're all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did the PGT fantasy stuff. I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>about the docu series that's coming out, and yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go from there. If you guys out there have any

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that docu series when you watch it, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>podcast at PokerGO dot com, Tim and I'll read it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any thoughts, maybe we'll read some if

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<v Speaker 1>they're good on the podcast, and yeah, we'll probably talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you in I don't know a week's time when

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<v Speaker 1>PT Las Vegas is wrapping up. You guys can follow

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<v Speaker 1>all the PGT related stuff front from n APT Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas on PGT dot com. Tim is gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, winner articles tracking the leaderboard because with those

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<v Speaker 1>eight high roller events, there is a series leaderboard that

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<v Speaker 1>will award a dream seat, so a player that wins

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<v Speaker 1>that can basically fast track themselves to the PGT million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar championship, so that's at stake as as of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a ton of points for the PGT leaderboard,

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<v Speaker 1>tons of money as well, and then you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be firing stuff off on social media for Tim Duckworth.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Donnie Peters and we will talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys next time you
