1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name 3 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:21,839 is Tim Duckworth. Once again audio only. Sorry for all 4 00:00:21,879 --> 00:00:24,679 those out there who want to look at our beautiful faces, 5 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:27,679 but you're going to have to wait for the time 6 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:29,920 being quick one today. Did a quick one last time. 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,280 I'm going to do a quick one today. I guess 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,759 we could file this under housekeeping items, as Tim and 9 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:41,359 I want to do the whole drop ad possibly exchange 10 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:44,840 players for our ongoing PGT fantasy We got to keep 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,920 up with it. He is now officially kicking my ass 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,560 in this thing. He is up about eleven hundred points 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,159 after PGTPLO Series and Super High Rollable. Those were combined 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,320 into one thing for our fantasy draft. And you know, 15 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:08,760 quite honestly, I blame team Jeremy. Yeah one, Jeremy Becker. Listen, 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,519 I went out on a limb and I decided not 17 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:14,400 to swap out Jeremy Becker for somebody on your team. 18 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:17,359 Probably would have went with China Reim or John Reordan. 19 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:19,920 That would have been great, because you know, Gino Reeim 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,519 won the PGTPOLO series, won the twenty five K at 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,680 the end had an incredible run of it throughout and 22 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:28,799 then obviously in Super High Rollable PLO, John Ordan wins 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,400 the damn thing. So you know, I just get absolutely smashed, 24 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:33,640 you know, thank you Jeremy Becker for that part. And 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,280 then to the other Jeremy, Jeremy Osmas, who decided to 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,640 basically no show for the PGTPLO series other than I 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,319 think one cash, yeah, one cash, and then did definitely 28 00:01:43,359 --> 00:01:45,920 no show for the Super High Rollable PLO because, as 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 I was told by his friend Seth Davies, he woke 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,959 up sick on that day even though he you know, 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,879 had action listed on poker Steak. I was helping to 32 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,359 promote it through the Poker Goro channels that people could 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,760 buy action of him on poker Steak. I see, there's 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,640 an article on poker Steak that says, if I remember correctly, 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 basically the title is Jeremy Osmas is basically a lock 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,800 for Super High Roller Bowl PLO. So I mean, this 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,840 guy wakes up sick and doesn't play. I mean it's 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,800 just the whole thing is unbelievable. And listen, you wake 39 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:16,960 up sick on that day. I get it, Okay, you 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,599 don't want to fire out the hunter K. Could have 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,879 come late, could have Max late, rege late the next day, 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,000 took the whole first day off, you know, did late 43 00:02:24,039 --> 00:02:28,800 Max late Max Max late wretch absolutely possibly Max might 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 have been the absolute last person to get into the field. 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 It was the champion. John reorded, okay, so you do it. 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,319 You could do it. 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,039 Speaker 2: So by the way, he also on that day didn't 48 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:41,240 play the hundred k, but he did play the fifteen K. 49 00:02:41,319 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's just absolute unbelievable. Couldn't even 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,759 get points for me in the fifteen K, so I 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,240 just got absolutely smashed. I am now getting crushed. So 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,280 we got to try and write the ship here for 53 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:54,840 NAPT Las Vegas, which started today. Right now it is 54 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:58,879 two h two pm here in Las Vegas. NAPT Las 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Vegas kicked off today a couple of hours ago, believe 56 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:05,919 eleven am or the first events. I'm gonna be down 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,120 there on what sorry, on Tuesday. For sure, you're gonna 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,719 be down there at some point this week as well. 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,199 Speaker 2: Yep. 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,879 Speaker 1: For anyone who wants to buy some action of me, 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,599 you can find it on poker Steak. Sorry for the 62 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:20,960 uh shill. Well sure, but you know yeah, you know, 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,639 I feel like I haven't been called a shill in 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 a while by Alan Kessler, so I might as well 65 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,599 do some shilling and hopefully he can, you know, start 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,000 posting on Twitter about me shilling some more. But yeah, 67 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:33,560 I do have two bullets in the eleven hundred dollars 68 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:35,759 open and the fifty three hundred dollars main. I'll post 69 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:37,960 it on poker Steak, So get in there if you 70 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,759 want to. It has been selling out. So maybe people 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,680 think I'm hot, Maybe people think I'm gonna win. 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Maybe you do do for a win. 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,879 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm freaking do Let's go baby. 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Full rules and details can be found 88 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:33,800 on PokerGO dot com slash rules and tim Yes, before 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,439 we get into the fantasy, so the people out there 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,360 know that we make good on these giveaways. 91 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:41,959 Speaker 2: We have a winner, which announce we have multiple winners, 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,160 but the one that matters the most is the Poker 93 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Gold Podcast winner. A lot of you fired off all 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,560 those entries, all those raffle tickets. A couple reached out 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 to me by a DM, you know, wanting to find 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,000 out if they had won, sad that they hadn't received 97 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,800 an email. But the winner, Matthew Petrie, he will be 98 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:07,399 representing the Pokego Podcast come the PGT million dollar Championship 99 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:09,839 from West Virginia. I believe he's gonna send me, you know, 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,519 a little bio so we can kind of talk a 101 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:13,600 bit more about him. But he said he started listening 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,240 to us last year. It's been great, so worthy winner there, 103 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,480 he's going to represent us. He's gonna fly that Pokego 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,959 Podcast flag, hopefully take it down. 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,639 Speaker 1: I just looked up Matthew Petrie on the old Hendon 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,279 mop Oh. Yeah, I found seventeen hundred and ninety one 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,800 dollars in total live earnings. I'm assuming this is the 108 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,439 right profile because it says from West Virginia. Must be 109 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:43,160 interestingly and coincidentally, he has a cash. He has two 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,600 cashes on record, one twenty twenty two, but the one 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,800 that I want to point out from last year, basically 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,399 one year ago November last year, napt Las Vegas. Yes, 113 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:57,519 in the NAPT Cup he cashed for one thousand and 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,040 fifty dollars. So hopefully his third entry for Matthew pat 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,720 is something you know, PGT Million Dollar Championship, you know, 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,360 final table in the money. Maybe he wins the damn thing. 117 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:13,399 That would be absolutely sweet. So congrats to you, Matthew. 118 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,040 And uh, you know that just goes to show forever 119 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,079 everyone out there that doesn't think that they necessarily have 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,879 a shot. Yes, it's real. Yes, we do give this 121 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:22,959 stuff away. So every time we tell you to do something, 122 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 you should go do it. Okay, it's very simple, it's 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,920 generally free for the most part. You know, the podcast 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,959 giveaway was a bunch of free raffle tickets and stuff 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,480 like that. Get on in there. 126 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Definitely, we you know, we bring it back next year 127 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:39,800 and and uh get someone else in the championship. 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,639 Speaker 1: I mean, let's go, let's go, people, come on, all right, 129 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,879 let's do this, uh this fantasy stuff that we got 130 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,279 to do. I don't even remember all the damn rules 131 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,160 for this thing. 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: You say this every time. It's still condesce. 133 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:53,959 Speaker 1: No, I really don't remember all the rules. And I 134 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,519 think I actually get we have to uh from the uh, 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,120 I really have to have to. 136 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,759 Speaker 2: Drop and replace, and then we we have. 137 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: To drop one player and add a player. 138 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we locked two other players and then 139 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,600 we can do a switch throw. 140 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: Correct. 141 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,199 Speaker 2: So I went first last time. You should go first system. 142 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: So it's drop one, add one and then and then 143 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,839 luck players to swap one, swap one. There's a drop two. 144 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:19,399 Speaker 2: You don't have to swap, it's chop one. 145 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:22,879 Speaker 1: So the teams currently are I have Jeremy Osmons, Jeremy Becker, 146 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:26,879 Nick Shulman, Michael Burke, and Alex Foxon. I mean, I 147 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:29,240 don't want to drop anyone from that one. 148 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,079 Speaker 2: It sounds like you should be dropping Jeremy Osmas. 149 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I could drop Jeremy Becker. 150 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:37,879 Speaker 2: No, you can't do that. 151 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't. That is he's found a new profession. 152 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:42,120 I don't know if you know, but he is now 153 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:46,560 live streaming bowling wagers as the only person in the 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,839 Red Rock Bowling Alley. 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: It was very It was actually very good watching. I 156 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:51,560 enjoyed it. 157 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:54,279 Speaker 1: On Sunday evenings. He was literally the only person in there. 158 00:07:55,279 --> 00:08:00,560 On his Instagram cheering, dancing, yelling into the camera. It's 159 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,639 just unbelievable. He has good form though, Yeah, good so yeah. 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,480 My team Osma Specker, Shulman, Burke, and Fox, and you 161 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:12,120 have Gino Reem, Samsoverroll, John Ordan, Andrew Liechtenberger and Mickey Duck. 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,120 All right, so who am I gonna drop? Who am 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,120 I gonna drop? I'm going to drop Alex Foxen Wow, okay, 164 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:24,199 And I am going to add Jason Kuhn. 165 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, you are gonna do what pretty easy drop. 166 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:32,639 I added him just for the Palos theories. He kind 167 00:08:32,639 --> 00:08:35,960 of failed me. Michael Juweck, you are gone see you. 168 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,759 And I'm going to add Steven Chidwick. 169 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,919 Speaker 1: That's a good one. He's in town. That's a good one, baby, 170 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,559 you always have the good ones. It's just unbelievable. I 171 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,320 mean it really is. 172 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,279 Speaker 2: Hey, I know you can't slap him all right, So 173 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,639 now how's that to protect two additional players we. 174 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Gotta protect too? So as are my kinder for everyone 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,440 out there. Kuhn and Childwick are locked on our teams. 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,480 We can't do any swapping or locking of them. I 177 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:18,720 am going to protect Nick Shulman and Jeremy Osmas, and 178 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:24,159 you are going to protect too. I mean, there's an 179 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,720 absolute slam dunk person that you should protect. 180 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean I don't think there is. 181 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: It's not, yes, there is. What are you stupid? Come on? 182 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: Should I just help you? 183 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:41,919 Speaker 1: Okay? 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,879 Speaker 2: Sam s Oliver, that's so yeah, Okay, that's what I 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Because we know he's. 186 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Already playing Mystery Boundy. Therefore you should because he's the 187 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:51,279 only one out of all the players in a tournament already. 188 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: I think they're pretty old even though, that's why. But 189 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,080 I was leaning. Ah, I'm just trying to think of 190 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,159 my second I think I I'm gonna lean towards Saverigle 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,919 and China protect those two King John the boys. I 192 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:12,759 gotta I gotta let you, let you be do you 193 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,480 want to switch? 194 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: By the way, this is only for PGT events as 195 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 part of TCH, so everyone everyone is aware out there. 196 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,159 So there's eight there's eight PGT qualifying events as part 197 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,320 of the NPT Las Vegas schedule. I am going to swap. 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: So you can take Reordan or Lucky Chow you that's here. 199 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm taking John Reordan and I'm giving you Michael Burke. 200 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,159 Speaker 2: I don't mind that. I don't mind that. 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just you know what, I'm just I need 202 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,399 to mix it up. I need to do something. Yeah, 203 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,440 I'm behind, So I'm switching it up, going with the 204 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,879 hot hand that is John Reordan. I mean, who knows 205 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:51,639 the guy has won one point two five million dollars. 206 00:10:51,639 --> 00:10:54,759 He might just, you know, go to go on vacation rolling. Yeah, 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,600 all right, go ahead. 208 00:10:55,879 --> 00:11:01,399 Speaker 2: Um say, like, do I even I Jeremy Becker? I 209 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:01,679 don't know. 210 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can only swap Jeremy for Chewie. 211 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: I know, but do I want him? Like I think 212 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,480 to you, I think Chewie might have been more like 213 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,039 tell you. 214 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Right now, I will I will be fully transparent with you. 215 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:13,559 I would prefer to keep Jeremy Becker on my team. 216 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:17,559 Just because I feel like we have this close love 217 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:20,320 relationship between each other and I would just like to 218 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,080 keep that together. But this is up to you. 219 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm you know what, I don't let you 220 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:30,480 have him because you know he he a. Yeah, I'm 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,200 gonna let him get you some points because I'm so 222 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:34,559 far ahead. I'm gonna keep Lucky Chewie. I'm not going 223 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:35,279 to do a swap. 224 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Do you know Nick Shulman's middle name? 225 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: Give me a him? 226 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: No, I'm asking. I was thinking, I have four players 227 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960 that their first name starts with a jay, and I 228 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,360 was wondering if Nick Schulman's middle name is like it's 229 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,720 a it's a it's kind of a like a weird name. 230 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:55,360 Not not like weird, but like it's one that you 231 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:58,960 might not think about. It's not like Mark got but 232 00:11:59,039 --> 00:12:02,759 I was thinking maybe it's like Jeremy or like something 233 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,200 like something that would align with my my team. But whatever, 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,840 you have Chino Reem, Sam Solivrol, Michael Burke, Andrew Lichtenberger, 235 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,720 and Steven Childwick. This is gonna be a fight. This 236 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:17,759 is gonna be a fight, all right. So yeah, there 237 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:20,799 are eight events as part of the npt LAS Vegas schedule, 238 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,759 you will be able to. I would say PGT dot 239 00:12:27,799 --> 00:12:30,960 com and all the poker go to our social media 240 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,159 accounts is the best way to follow what's happening in 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,759 these PGT specific events. I know Poker News will be 242 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:41,279 at the NAPT Las Vegas. I just don't know exactly 243 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,480 what they are covering. 244 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: They have nothing on right now, so there's a lot 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,759 of reporting of the NPT Cup, but yeah, I think 246 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:53,480 both of them and open by the way, open, pokuss open, 247 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:57,240 focustars open, Yeah, because he said an NPT Cup before. 248 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,559 The poker dot will be there too. But for those 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,799 of that you are unaware, download the poker Stas Live 250 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,399 app and you can check like updates of every event. 251 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:09,759 See who's in. I clicked on the event today, I 252 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:12,519 saw Odb's in for two bullets already. But yeah, you 253 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,840 can see who's in, the chip counts, you know, the structures, 254 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:19,120 you can see kind of payouts everything. So the poka 255 00:13:19,159 --> 00:13:22,039 Stas Live app is definitely probably the best way to 256 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,480 sweat this entire series. Whether you're here playing, oh you 257 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:28,559 know you're you're at home just trying to get a 258 00:13:29,159 --> 00:13:30,480 trying to get a bunkst. 259 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this will be a fun series both 260 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,120 to play as you and I are and then also 261 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:41,519 to follow along with. I'm certainly excited for it. I think, 262 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:44,080 you know, we've talked about it many times, but this 263 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,240 series is it's a lot of fun. The Poker Stars 264 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:51,799 product is incredible. You know, we've obviously seen it for 265 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,320 many many years as it relates to the EPT and 266 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,559 a lot of the other big stuff. But you know, 267 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:00,360 the NAPT is still still newer in its retire turn. 268 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:02,559 This is the third year since it's been back, so 269 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,440 you know, I can't wait to go in resorts world, listen, 270 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,039 I know it may not be the most popular property 271 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:11,120 in terms of like foot traffic and all that sort 272 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,360 of stuff. You know, you see it out there in 273 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:14,360 the news all the time, especially Tim and I because 274 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,000 we're in Vegas and we see all that stuff. But 275 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,440 the property is freaking awesome, Okay, I mean everything's pretty 276 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,399 much brand spanking new. The conference area where the NAPT 277 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:28,279 Las Vegas events are held is awesome. Like it's just 278 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,759 it's very spread out. There's not a lot of traffic 279 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,639 up there. Everything is you know, state of the art, 280 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,440 so it's great to be in that area. The property 281 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:39,679 is down a little bit of the ways on the strip. 282 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 You know, it's diagonally across from the wind, so it's 283 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,159 not right in the thick of thing. So that is 284 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:50,000 important right now because now that it's November or you know, 285 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:52,679 the f one Vegas is in a couple of weeks, 286 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:55,399 so everything on the strip is pretty much a freaking disaster. 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,720 So you know, going a little bit further down kind 288 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,039 of out of the way, you know, eases all those 289 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,840 those traffic issues that might come up, and it's you know, 290 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,440 it's a nice in and out off the highway. So yeah, 291 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,440 they got good restaurants there. It's it's awesome. So if 292 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,000 you haven't been to Resorts Well that I would highly 293 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:14,639 encourage you check it out. The poker room itself. You know, 294 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:16,879 the poke room isn't where the NPT events are played. 295 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:19,200 They do the NPT events up in the conference center, 296 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,799 but the Poke room itself a lot of stuff going 297 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,200 on there. Robbie Strazinski, friend of the podcast, has his 298 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,679 Mixed Game Festival coming up at the Resorts World Poker Room, 299 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,679 which is very nice, big, open, spacious, all that sort 300 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:37,279 of stuff. You always go play that mixed game festival. 301 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:40,279 I don't, but you know, maybe I'll make my way 302 00:15:40,279 --> 00:15:42,039 down there. Depends how things go. It depends if I 303 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,480 have any money left from NYPT. 304 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the big thing. I need to have some 305 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,200 money to go. Put it on the table. 306 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 1: All right. While I have you, I did want to 307 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,879 ask you about this WSB docu series that's coming out 308 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,240 on Tuesday, November fourth, is done by Dustin and I 309 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Noddi's met Artisans on Fire. It's been kind of teased 310 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:05,440 and talked about for a little bit, but in the 311 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:07,919 last you know, a week two weeks or so, we've 312 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:10,399 seen a lot more of the poker players and industry 313 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,759 people involved start to put messages out there saying like, hey, 314 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:15,840 this is what I was involved in. It was around 315 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,240 WSP Paradise time. It's finally coming out on Tuesday, November fourth, 316 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:23,159 Go watch it. I'm excited for all that sort of stuff. 317 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,679 Tim and I are recording this podcast on Monday, November fourth. 318 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:29,840 It'll likely air on sorry, on Monday, November third. It'll 319 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:31,759 likely air on November fourth, and that's when you guys 320 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:35,480 can watch the first episode of this docu series on 321 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,639 the WSB YouTube channel. But I just want to ask 322 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:44,360 you are you anticipating thinking, you know, obviously there's been 323 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:46,799 a lot of talk about this, there's been a lot 324 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,639 of like this is what poker needs messaging, So what 325 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,559 are you hoping to see? 326 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, firstly, I the whole book needs more of this. 327 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:59,399 I think in a way it is true. I think 328 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,679 we said that about Game of Gold when that came out, 329 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,839 that we need more than just you know, poker hands, 330 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,960 tournament's cash games. We were supposed to see a season 331 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,720 two of that hasn't really happened. So I think a 332 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,480 lot of people are going to expect a lot about 333 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000 it out of this. It's probably going to be very good, 334 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,799 and then they think, hey, let's just keep doing this 335 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,359 non stop. But obviously we have a little bit of 336 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:25,160 inside knowledge being on this production side of things that 337 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,319 any non streaming when it's come So when you're doing 338 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,400 like documentaries, it takes you know, a lot of time 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,359 to put this together, and a lot of time also 340 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,359 means a lot of money. So although a lot of us, 341 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,039 a lot of us die hards want to see you know, 342 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:46,119 we would probably watch you know, a football live version 343 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,519 of everyone in poker right without a doubt. It's just 344 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200 it's not as easy as that, right. You know, maybe 345 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,680 one day it will be a cheaper thing to do. 346 00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:56,359 But I think that's what people need to understand first, 347 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,440 is that this is not an easy thing when they're 348 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,279 not going to be able to roll this out every 349 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,799 week going forward for the rest of time. Coming back 350 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:08,039 to the video, you know, I'm going into it with 351 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,519 pretty much a clean slate. I'm not going to expect 352 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:13,880 it's going to be, you know, an Emmy Award winning show, 353 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,680 but I'm not expecting it to be kind of trash. 354 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:19,079 I want to just come in with a clean slate, 355 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:22,319 watch it for what it is, you know, eight episodes 356 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:24,720 or ten episodes, whatever it ends up being. I just 357 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,079 want to watch it, absorb it, you know, try and 358 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,200 enjoy it from both being in the media but also 359 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,400 just being a poker fan. But yeah, I don't really 360 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,000 have a read on what this is going to be 361 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:35,440 at all. I don't know if this is going to 362 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,200 be we just are they just telling stories of these 363 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:41,640 main stars or is there more to it is Is 364 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,559 it going to build into some kind of one big 365 00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:45,319 cliffhanger at the end or something. I don't really know, 366 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,880 but I'm kind of okay, not knowing the ending already, 367 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:52,440 so no, I'm excited to see it. I'm going to 368 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,200 be tuning in to watch it obviously. Hope it's excellent. 369 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,119 I hope they do more of this stuff. But yeah, 370 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,680 I'm not going to set the bar to or expect 371 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,599 too much right now. 372 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm looking forward to everything 373 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,160 that comes out of it as well. I mean, you know, 374 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,799 we'll see and then I think we did we did 375 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:17,720 like Game of Gold recaps, right, like we talked about 376 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:18,680 like each episode. 377 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, or maybe every like a couple episodes, 378 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,680 we did something together. 379 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,759 Speaker 1: So we should maybe do the same thing. Sure, yeah, 380 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,720 you know, we're just maybe we don't have to follow 381 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:31,440 up every single episode, but you know, we'll, well, every 382 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,599 time we hop on the podcast, we can just kind 383 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:36,559 of talk about what happened on this latest episode or 384 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:40,720 whatnot and see if we can get i don't know, 385 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,920 a snapshot of what people are saying and thinking out there, 386 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,799 and yeah, we'll go from there. I do agree that, 387 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,359 you know, I think that poker needs it needs more 388 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:55,599 content from the industry. I also understand what you're saying, 389 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,480 of course, being in it, that this stuff takes a 390 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:03,799 lot of time, resources, money, and it's not necessarily always 391 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:08,599 there unfortunately, So that's you know, a bit of a 392 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:11,279 struggle or an obstacle for the industry to get by. 393 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,559 You know. Part of me thinks that if we had 394 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:22,960 the creative minds and the notable storylines that we do now, 395 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,720 but around fifteen years to when money was falling from 396 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,559 the sky and poker, that would have been like the 397 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:34,880 perfect situation because then we have done a lot more 398 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,920 of this stuff. It would have been supported by just 399 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,000 you know, dump trucks of money from online poker sites 400 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,160 and like all this sort of stuff. Right, you know, 401 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,559 we just don't have all that money you know, falling 402 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:50,240 from the sky in the industry anymore. So it's a 403 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:52,880 bit difficult. So you definitely need to see more of 404 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,640 an immediate return on things, or at least that's kind 405 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,559 of what's expected. So it's it's hard and it's a struggle, 406 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,200 which I'm sure you know plenty of people out there 407 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960 who are content creators that you know, experience every single 408 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,519 day where they're just grinding out content, putting in time, effort, resources, 409 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:11,559 money behind their stuff, and maybe they don't get the 410 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,599 viewership or whatnot, and then they quit. I mean, so 411 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,759 it's just hard, but yeah, but I'm looking forward to 412 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:18,440 it and we'll see, uh, we'll see what comes out 413 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,119 again Tuesday, November fourth, the WSP YouTube channel, and we'll see, uh, 414 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,200 we'll see what people think. 415 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,759 Speaker 2: I think one something that could change the way that 416 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:30,680 this kind of content works in our industry is just 417 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,680 not just how far kind of AI goes, but how 418 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,440 far AI goes with someone that is very knowledgeable of 419 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,240 it and very interested in this, you know, because I 420 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,200 don't know, if you see much of this sour stuff. 421 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,799 Some of the sourra AI stuff is pretty bad, right, 422 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:54,720 but some of it is world class. Looks like it's 423 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:58,200 a Spielberg movie. So if you can get the right 424 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,640 person that is can excel that but also once to 425 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,400 tell these stories, then I feel like this stuff could 426 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,519 be you know, costs wise, time wise, trimmed, renowned dramatically, 427 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,799 and we could see more kind of non you know, 428 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,720 standard poker stuff coming out, you know, maybe in the 429 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:16,680 near distant future. 430 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a general observation of 431 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,720 all of AI. You know, I think that there's a 432 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,640 lot of people out there who just think that AI 433 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:31,799 is just doing everything and anything. And I mean I 434 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:34,680 say this as listen, I'm not an expert in the space, 435 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:39,519 but I use these AI models every single day, and 436 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480 you really have to work with it, and you have 437 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:46,240 to feed it prompts and you have to constantly, you know, 438 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,160 critique and edit and adjust and over and over again. 439 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:51,799 So yeah, like you said, you know, if somebody just says, like, hey, 440 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,960 make me a poker movie, like, it's probably gonna spit 441 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,559 out some dog shit, okay, But like if you start 442 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:00,000 with that, you give it a script, then you refine, refine, refine, refine, 443 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,839 and you put in a lot of hours and a 444 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,920 lot of time and hundreds, if not thousands of prompts 445 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,559 and all this sort of stuff, then yeah, you're likely 446 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,680 going to get a very very good product at the end. 447 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:13,599 But it still involves that human creativity, that human engine 448 00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:16,839 behind the AI engine to make it all work, right. 449 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,640 So you know, that's also where I'm like, I break 450 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,680 from the people that say AI is just going to 451 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,119 take over the world, because I don't know, at least 452 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,480 right now, you still need humans behind it, like doing 453 00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:32,039 all that stuff. And yeah, it certainly helps you do 454 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,079 your job better and it can help you be much 455 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,079 more efficient and it can do a lot of things 456 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,680 for you in less time than it would take you 457 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920 to do. But that doesn't mean that, like you know, 458 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,400 it doesn't involve humans or it doesn't need humans. So 459 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,039 it's I mean, right now, I'm kind of just in 460 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:50,119 the middle. Like I don't think that it's a nothing burger, 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,000 but I also don't think it's an end all be all, 462 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,359 So I'm just kind of somewhere in the middle. But 463 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,559 like you said, you know, yeah, eventually, I think somebody 464 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,920 is probably going to create something poker wise, whether that's like, hey, 465 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,119 create me a new season of high six Poker using 466 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 these players, and like then then you have to like, 467 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:08,680 you know, refine, refine, refined, so you get that end product, right, Yeah, 468 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,160 or maybe somebody creates a new poker movie or a 469 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,079 new poker show or whatever it is. But it's gonna 470 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,359 take a lot of creativity and a lot of work 471 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,839 from somebody, but it'll probably eventually happen and it'll probably 472 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,240 be awesome, right, But it's not like everyone's just gonna 473 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,400 be able to pick it up and do it. Yeah, exactly, 474 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,759 Like you've seen some We've obviously seen stuff on social 475 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,079 media where it's like AI generated images and like, you know, 476 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,119 you can see that like the jacket space is upside 477 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,680 down and it's like, you know, it's like yeah, like 478 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,720 that sort of stuff is you know, not exactly perfect 479 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:39,440 just yet, but you know it'll it'll get there and 480 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,960 it's constantly improving. But anyway, we're all over the place. 481 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,359 So we did the PGT fantasy stuff. I asked you 482 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,160 about the docu series that's coming out, and yeah, we'll 483 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,039 go from there. If you guys out there have any 484 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,319 thoughts on that docu series when you watch it, of course, 485 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,160 podcast at PokerGO dot com, Tim and I'll read it. 486 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,400 If you have any thoughts, maybe we'll read some if 487 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,680 they're good on the podcast, and yeah, we'll probably talk 488 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,839 to you in I don't know a week's time when 489 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200 PT Las Vegas is wrapping up. You guys can follow 490 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,200 all the PGT related stuff front from n APT Las 491 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,720 Vegas on PGT dot com. Tim is gonna be doing 492 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,480 you know, winner articles tracking the leaderboard because with those 493 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:21,519 eight high roller events, there is a series leaderboard that 494 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,960 will award a dream seat, so a player that wins 495 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,160 that can basically fast track themselves to the PGT million 496 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,160 dollar championship, so that's at stake as as of course, 497 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,720 you know, a ton of points for the PGT leaderboard, 498 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:36,680 tons of money as well, and then you know, we'll 499 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,359 be firing stuff off on social media for Tim Duckworth. 500 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,279 My name is Donnie Peters and we will talk to 501 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:43,799 you guys next time you