1 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,599 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,439 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:16,679 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:19,199 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,559 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,120 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,559 your support. Head on a swivel all you Swifties out there. 10 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:34,640 Donald Trump is apparently coming for you guys. That's what 11 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:39,880 I can that's my assessment after the news broke that 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,520 the world's second most famous swifty has been indicted. So 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,880 I can only assume all of you millions of Swifties 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,679 are also being targeted as well, including like I gotta 15 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:57,640 believe Travis Kelcey as well. I mean, I know where 16 00:00:57,679 --> 00:00:59,840 he's going to be on Sunday, so I think so, 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,880 or maybe they're playing a Thursday game or Monday night game. 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,040 I don't know, but like they publish his schedule, So 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,480 if you're looking to round up the Swifties, like you 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,480 know where he's gonna be, yes, so Jim Comey gets 21 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:24,239 indicted in an unprecedented Yeah, example of a politician, in 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,760 this case the president of the United States targeting his 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,560 political opponents, like the Swifties, James Comey, big swifty head. 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,799 Is that what they call them? Swift? I guess swifty 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,120 is just the name Big Swifty. And remember I played 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,879 his audio a couple of weeks back where he talked 27 00:01:43,879 --> 00:01:50,120 about how he was so moved by Taylor Swift's legacy 28 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:54,280 and her art and everything, and her lyrics and her songs, 29 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:56,959 and she's in the little He's in a group chat 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 with his family members, the Swifty group chat among famis 31 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:05,040 members and stuff. Yeah, we've never seen anything like this before. 32 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,159 This is the narrative that the Democrats and the media. 33 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,159 But I repeat myself, this is what they are going 34 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:15,960 with that there is simply no precedent for a president 35 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:23,520 going after his political opponents. As if we all did 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,120 not see what just happened over the last five years. 37 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,800 You do realize, Democrats and media, you do realize that 38 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,240 only like a child under the age of ten would 39 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:41,400 not be aware of the recent history here of attempting 40 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:44,960 to throw Donald Trump in jail for the rest of 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,000 his life, and the indictments and the targeted attacks against 42 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,800 almost two dozen of the people that worked for him 43 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,919 and with him. You realize we know this, like we 44 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,319 were all watching, we were all paying, we were covering it, 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,680 we were talking about it. It's not unprecedented. In fact, 46 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:08,919 when y'all were doing it under the last administration, we 47 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:12,960 kept telling you that this is a terrible precedent to 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,599 be doing this, because you're going to get turnabout, especially 49 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:21,919 if somebody like Donald Trump or Donald Trump himself were 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,479 to ascend to the presidency again. And now here we are, 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,879 the president was already set. This is what you call turnabout. 52 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,400 This is the turnabout phase of the FAFO. Okay, this 53 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:43,759 is now the right playing by your rules, which people 54 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,639 on the right told you these are not good rules 55 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,879 to establish, blowing up the norms and such. But I 56 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,319 know you said this was all to save the democracy, 57 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,599 and now you're like, oh my god, gosh, but what's 58 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:02,719 going to happen. You know, when the Democrats take over, 59 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,439 then they're going to do it right back to you. 60 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,800 That's a fair point. That is an absolutely fair point. 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,719 I don't want to live in a society where just 62 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:14,800 because you lose an election that means you get thrown 63 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,879 in jail. That's Banana republic type stuff. 64 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:17,399 Speaker 2: Right. 65 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Never, by the way, never have been able to locate 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,800 Banana Republic on the map, but I am assured it 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,879 does exist. But that is the kind of thing that 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,759 a Banana republic does, not the retail store, but the 69 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:39,000 But yeah, like third world dictatorships and such. But luckily, 70 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,399 not only did you guys set a precedent for prosecuting 71 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:49,759 your political opponents, but you also set another precedent. Do 72 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 you remember this one? This one's actually a little bit 73 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:56,319 more recent. It's like not even a year old. You 74 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:03,759 know what it is? Did you guess pardons? If you did, 75 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,600 you are correct. That's right. All of the pardons that 76 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,279 you can hand out as the president, you can even 77 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:12,639 do them preemptively. You can have them go back and 78 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,560 cover a decade's worth of moulfeasans and illegal activity. Just 79 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:24,160 blanket pardons for everybody and anybody in your orbit, in 80 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,800 your administration. Just mass pardons for everybody, and you could 81 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,399 just have the auto pen sign them all. You don't 82 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,399 even have to be aware of all of the people 83 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,639 you're pardoning. Yet another precedent that we said you guys 84 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:43,800 probably shouldn't do that. That's kind of a norm busting outrage. 85 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,519 You said, ha haha, screw you. We're going to be 86 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:51,439 in power forever, Niah, now not anymore. And so now 87 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 we've got another president. I suspect that Donald Trump will 88 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,240 also use which will be to part in everybody. So 89 00:05:57,319 --> 00:06:00,439 then you can't charge any of his people with doing 90 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,040 anything illegal, which you are so convinced that he has done, 91 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,519 so convinced that you've indicted everybody, and then you send 92 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:09,279 people to jail for lying to Congress, which is precisely 93 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:12,079 what Jim Comey got indicted for. By the way, in 94 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,360 a very lefty area, a grand jury pulled from the 95 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:20,480 eastern district of Virginia. I believe this is not exactly 96 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:24,199 Maga country where people are trying to assault folks coming 97 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,040 from a subway shop at two am in a blizzard, 98 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:31,600 in a polar vortex. Right, not exactly Maga country, and 99 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:37,920 a grand jury indicted Jim Comy. Let me read a statement, 100 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,720 because this is why perjury matters. Okay, lying to government investigators, 101 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:52,120 this is why a perjury charge is so serious. The 102 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:56,040 justice system is an honor system. We really can't always 103 00:06:56,079 --> 00:06:59,560 tell when people are lying or hiding documents, so when 104 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,519 we are able to prove it, we simply must do so. 105 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,000 As a message to everyone. There was once a time 106 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:08,399 when most people worried about going to hell if they 107 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,920 violated an oath taken in the name of God. That 108 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,879 divine deterrence has slipped away from our modern cultures. In 109 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,759 its place, people must fear going to jail. They must 110 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,399 fear their lives being turned upside down. They must fear 111 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,839 their pictures splashed on newspapers and websites. People must fear 112 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,519 having their name forever associated with a criminal act. If 113 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:34,720 we are to have a nation with a rule of law, 114 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:39,519 the defendant lied blatantly in the justice system. To protect 115 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:43,680 the institution of justice and reinforce a culture of truth telling, 116 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,120 the defendant had to be prosecuted. I am very confident 117 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,480 that should the circumstance arise, the defendant would not lie 118 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:56,000 to federal investigators. Again, do you know who said that. 119 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,160 If you guess Jim Comey, you are correct. Jim Comy 120 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,199 said that he was talking about Martha Stewart, who they 121 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:08,240 sent to prison for lying to federal investigators about not 122 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:11,959 for not for Insider trading, but they didn't charge her 123 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,480 with that right. They charged her with the with the lion. 124 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,759 That's what she went down for. That's Jim Comy in 125 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:25,279 his book. Since the announcement of the indictment from a 126 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:28,920 grand jury of his peers, he issued a statement which 127 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,560 I think he's wearing makeup, which is weird. 128 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: My family and I have known for years that there 129 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,159 are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we 130 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,279 couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not 131 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:47,679 live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that 132 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:51,440 I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool 133 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,240 of a tyrant. 134 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,919 Speaker 1: She's right, Taylor Swift. 135 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either. 136 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,679 I hope instead you are engaged, You are paying attention, 137 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,559 and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, 138 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,720 which it does. 139 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Ah, catastrophism. 140 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but 141 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:18,039 I have great confidence in the federal judicial system. I'm innocent, 142 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:20,080 So let's have a trial. 143 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,759 Speaker 1: Okay, cool and keep the faith? 144 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: All right? 145 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well let's do that. Then. I completely agree. 146 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,679 By the way, note the posture victim hero, never the villain, 147 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:34,320 always the victim or the hero, or in Jim Comey's case, 148 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,799 both at the same time. You know, stories are powerful. 149 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,960 They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 150 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,519 Stories connect us to the people of our past while 151 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,960 transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, 152 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,919 and our stories are told through images and videos. 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Here is Senator Richard Blumenthal sending a warning 168 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,159 to Republicans after James Comey was indicted, warning that, you know, 169 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:51,559 Democrats could do the same to a conservative figure next. 170 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 I mean, you guys better be aware that this could 171 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,080 happen to you. Now the old thing, what. 172 00:10:57,159 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: Comes around goes around, you know today it's a Republican bet, 173 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:06,720 but degrading the democracy and ruining literally perverting the great 174 00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:10,440 ethos and tradition of the Department of Justice where I 175 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,639 was in awe when I walked through those halls as 176 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:18,120 a federal prosecutor. I think it's time for Republican colleague 177 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,320 to say enough is enough, and we're going to push 178 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,200 them and. 179 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,759 Speaker 1: Do it hard. Okay, So yeah, this is the thing. 180 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,240 As Sonny Wright said on social media, I wonder if 181 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,919 making a million excuses for Biden's DOJ trying to imprison 182 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,879 Biden's top opponent while Biden part in his own family 183 00:11:36,919 --> 00:11:41,440 for crimes might have had repercussions. These are the repercussions. 184 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:48,080 And to use Blumenthal's phrase, there, this isn't the going around, 185 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:53,639 this is the coming around, right, He said, what goes 186 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,039 around comes around, This is the comes around. Part you 187 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,480 guys did this. You blew up the norms. You said 188 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,080 that the democracy was at stake, and by blowing up 189 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:12,559 the norms, you then give the wreckage over to Donald Trump, 190 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,360 who you say, is this authoritarian? And what you did 191 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:23,440 was deconstruct those norms ahead of his ascendancy or reascendancy, 192 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,799 ahead of him retaking control of the government. You blew 193 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:32,720 up the guard rails, which doesn't seem like a very 194 00:12:32,799 --> 00:12:42,759 smart thing to have done. Here is Larry O'Connor. O'Connor, 195 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:47,960 he is a radio host at wma L in Washington, 196 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:51,320 and he was on with Mark Halpern, who does a 197 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,600 YouTube show called Next Up, which is I think it's 198 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:57,279 I think he does a good job and he brings 199 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:01,440 on different people. So this is Larry O'Connor talking about 200 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,600 the Komy indictment. 201 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: Here everyone's trying to equivocate this, as you know, Trump 202 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,879 going after his political opponents. James Comy is not running 203 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:10,399 for office, he's not an elected official. He was one 204 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:12,879 of the most powerful law if not the most powerful 205 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,639 law enforcement officers in the country as the FBI director, 206 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,919 and if he abused his power and lied to Congress 207 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,240 and their oversight role while in that role, he should 208 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,399 be prosecuted. And that's not a political opponent. It's not 209 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,080 like what was done to Donald Trump where he was 210 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,720 running for office and these laws were sort of, you know, 211 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,080 creatively applied to him, as you point out. Secondly, I 212 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 think that when you look at this subjectively speaking, when 213 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,000 you look at the facts and take the politics out 214 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,279 of the way, and I understand that that's difficult. When 215 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 you look at those two cases in New York, the 216 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Letitia James case and the Alvin Bragg case, it's pretty 217 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,840 hard to figure out just looking at them on face 218 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:57,679 value and looking at the facts what law was broken, 219 00:13:57,919 --> 00:14:00,919 let alone whether Donald Trump was guilty of breaking those laws. 220 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,960 You really have to sort of contort yourself and twist 221 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,799 yourself in the pretzel. 222 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: And they were unprecedented. There had been cases like that 223 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,519 they and the bar and the bar rather than being 224 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:12,679 higher for a former president and the front runner for 225 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,720 the presidency, the bar was lowered. 226 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: That's right. 227 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:17,919 Speaker 4: Add to that the fact that they ran for office 228 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,080 as a campaign incentive, vote for me, and I'll do this, 229 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,360 as you said. Secondly, when you do the exact same 230 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:29,080 thing with Director Comy, when you look at his testimony 231 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,120 under oath before Congress about whether he leaked information and 232 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,639 whether we talked to the press, and his conduct during 233 00:14:36,679 --> 00:14:38,919 the early days of the cross for a hurricane investigation, 234 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,039 and Donald Trump objectively speaking, if you set politics asiety, 235 00:14:42,039 --> 00:14:44,279 it's hard not to see that. Yeah, it sure looks 236 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,600 like he didn't tell the truth under oath. That's perjury 237 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,720 and that should mean something. But secondly, he also openly 238 00:14:49,759 --> 00:14:53,000 bragged about what I would characterize as abuse of power 239 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:57,279 when going after General Flynn. You know that that famous 240 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,879 exchange with Nicole Wallace when James Comy was selling his book. 241 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:03,519 Maybe you can run the clip here on the podcast 242 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,639 where he laughs about the fact that he took advantage 243 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:09,840 of the chaotic early days of the Trump White House 244 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:12,440 he would have never done it under Obama or Bush, 245 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,440 and sent an agent in there to talk to Mike 246 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:18,759 Flynn and potentially trap him in a perjury trap. 247 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: By the way, the agent that he sent was Peter. 248 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,679 Speaker 4: Struck, the guy who was text messaging with Lisa Page. 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,639 Speaker 5: The most anti Trump FBI agent maybe ever. 250 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the thing on the merits. This is 251 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:33,879 and I don't know, by the way, like I don't 252 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:37,559 know because at the heart of this charge, the accusation 253 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:42,679 of perjury, is whether or not Comy told mccab Andrew McCabe, 254 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:45,840 his number two guy, whether he told him to leak 255 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:49,200 this stuff, whether it was quote authorized or not. McCabe 256 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,279 says it came from Comy. Comy says didn't come from me. 257 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:54,679 So one of them is lying, And it could be 258 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,759 that Comy isn't. We're gonna find out. But there is 259 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:03,399 an enough probable cause here. There is enough evidence for 260 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,720 a grand jury to indict. So again, a grand jury 261 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:15,480 in a Democrat district. This isn't like venue shopping into Manhattan, 262 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,279 so you can get a jury pool that voted ninety 263 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:24,519 six percent against Trump. This is not that so like 264 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:30,080 these are not exactly analogous number. Next up, this is 265 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,519 saying guy Larry O'Connor from wm AL, responding to the 266 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,120 charge that this is hypocrisy. 267 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:40,519 Speaker 4: Those of us on the right mark feel that the 268 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:43,519 only way this stops is if a couple of them 269 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,440 start to get indicted in that. I know that seems wrong, 270 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:49,120 I know that seems hypocritical, but they need to recognize 271 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:51,320 these tools can be used against them until they stand 272 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,519 up and say, Okay, enough. 273 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: I understand it, and and I get eye for an eye, 274 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,960 and and and I get the the you know, people 275 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,799 tell me there's all this game theory that show. Unless 276 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,320 you make them pay a price for it, they'll keep 277 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,559 doing it. I don't like either. But what I also 278 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:06,359 don't like is the is the is the fact that 279 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,880 the media and academia just sides with one side. It's 280 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,559 one thing for partisans to be partisans. It's another for 281 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:15,160 it to be two on one ers. You said maybe 282 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:15,680 more than two and. 283 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: One, right, So this is the This is the argument 284 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:22,839 that the right has been having. And if you are 285 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,359 not on the right, you probably are unaware of this argument. 286 00:17:28,039 --> 00:17:32,640 How to respond to the unprecedented abuses that the Democrats 287 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,599 engaged in against Donald Trump and conservatives and by the way, 288 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,960 have been doing so for decades like the and this 289 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:44,480 dovetails into the you know, the speech policing and the deplatforming, 290 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:47,599 and we're going to get into that. But the this 291 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:52,839 issue of how to respond. Do you just disarm and say, okay, 292 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:54,920 you know what, you can imprison us, take all of 293 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,720 our wealth, get us debarred or disbarred. Rather, you can 294 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:01,200 do all of this stuff against Yes, but we have 295 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:05,359 a higher morality, so we shall refrain from doing anything. 296 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,359 Even if we can prove it that you violated the law. 297 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,880 We shouldn't do that because we are better than you, 298 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:16,759 and we can I guess rest assured of that moral 299 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,279 superiority while we rot in prison. So when I was 300 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:23,519 a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, 301 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:25,440 my mom and my dad took care of him as 302 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,279 he got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments 303 00:18:28,319 --> 00:18:31,400 and not much support for caregivers and family. But things 304 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,200 are different today because of the work of so many people, 305 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,799 including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great 306 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,160 organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a 307 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,119 supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot 308 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,480 to me. I participate in the annual Walk to End 309 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year, 310 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,680 and it's called once Again Pete's Pack. You can sign 311 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,960 up and you can join the team and walk with us. 312 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,319 It's on October eighteenth that truest field sign up at 313 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:02,640 al z dot org slash walk and then you could 314 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,599 search for my team name Pete's peck. There's also a 315 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,480 link at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in 316 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:11,799 the description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing 317 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:14,599 the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you can 318 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,920 make a team and join that one too, or make 319 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,960 a donation and help me hit my goal of five 320 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,680 thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it. There 321 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,200 are a bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. 322 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,000 You can go to alz dot org slash walk for 323 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:29,839 all the dates and locations. We're closer than ever to 324 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,279 stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us get there? Will you 325 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:35,200 walk with me? For a different future, for families, for 326 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,880 more time for treatments. This is why we walk so. 327 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,880 Former FBI Director James Comy indicted on criminal charges related 328 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,880 to allegations that he lied to Congress during testimony in 329 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,799 twenty twenty about whether he authorized a leak of information. 330 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,720 Comy is facing one count of false statements and one 331 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:58,200 count of obstruction of justice. According to a release from 332 00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:02,359 the Department of Justice, the statute of limitations for the 333 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680 perjury charge was going to run out on September thirtieth 334 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,680 because that's when it's a five year statute of limitations. 335 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,160 And he allegedly lied on September thirty, twenty twenty, before 336 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,799 the Senate Judiciary Committee when he said that he never 337 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,880 authorized anybody at the FBI to leak information to the 338 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,240 press related to the investigations of either possible collusion between 339 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:30,680 Trump and Russia or Hillary Clinton's use of an unauthorized 340 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:34,240 email system. Okay, so that's the nature of the charge. 341 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:37,920 We don't have evidence presented yet, so we don't know 342 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:44,319 how strong the evidence is right at this point, but 343 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,680 obviously there was enough that the grand jury indicted. There 344 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:56,000 is a fellow named John Lefevre Lefevert le Fever le Fevere. Anyway, 345 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:59,359 he's an author, and he said they changed the law 346 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,839 to bankrupt Trump, they converted expired misdemeanors into felonies to 347 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,079 jail him. They threatened lawyers with disbarment for defending Trump, 348 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:12,279 and now they cry that real justice is actually retribution. 349 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:19,319 So if you are not understanding why MAGA and why 350 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:27,279 Republicans and conservatives are looking at this differently, Larry O'Connor 351 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,200 spells it out. I've got more audio from his interview 352 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,759 that he did with Mark Halprin, but I get the feeling. 353 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:39,519 And O'Connor said this that like, looking back now post 354 00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:43,880 Charlie Kirk assassination, half the country really has no idea 355 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:48,920 what conservatives think and why they really don't understand conservatives 356 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:56,039 at all. Let's see here. This is from Ted Cruz, 357 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,920 who has a podcast because everybody does, and his pot 358 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,799 cast is called Verdict, and he said, this indictment is 359 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,920 not for being an opponent of Donald Trump. It's not 360 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:10,160 for being a political figure on the other side of 361 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:14,480 Donald Trump. This indictment is for deliberately and knowingly lying 362 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,720 under oath to the US Senate, which is a clear 363 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:22,160 and unmistakable felony. Right, Like, the evidence is going to 364 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,079 show whether or not Comy lied or not. Right, we 365 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,759 should be able to figure this out in the trial 366 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,920 when the evidence is presented. We will then be able 367 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,759 to make make our own determinations, make up our own minds. 368 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,400 I don't know. It seems like he did, considering his 369 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,599 track record, right, his violation of all sorts of ethical 370 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,559 protocols and stuff over the years, so it wouldn't surprise 371 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,960 me one bit. But maybe Andrew McCabe is lying. I 372 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,880 don't know. We'll find out hopefully, so I'm withholding judgment 373 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,799 on this, but it seems pretty clear that if they've 374 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:03,240 got evidence that he lied to Congress, then yes, he 375 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:08,000 should be indicted. That's the only way this stops people 376 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,000 lying to Congress in order to protect a particular leader 377 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,599 at that time, it was Joe Biden. If you want 378 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,400 that stuff to stop, then you have to drop the 379 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,960 hammer on these bureaucrats and these officials when they lie 380 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,880 to Congress. It's the only way this gets better. I 381 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,640 don't know any other way out except violence, and I 382 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,200 don't want to see that. Former White House Press Secretary 383 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:39,279 Ari Fleischer. He did a screenshot of several of the 384 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:46,240 headlines over the contempt charges against Stephen Bannon. Steve Bannon right, 385 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,400 he refused to comply with subpoenas from the House. Peter Navarro, 386 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:57,559 he got indicted. He says, I don't know if James 387 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,119 Comy is innocent or guilty, but I do know that 388 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,759 when the Biden doj indicted, Trump aids Peter Navarro and 389 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,680 Steve Bannon. The Washington Post in New York Times treated 390 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,200 it as if it were straight news. They did not 391 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,960 treat this as Biden going after his opponents. They did 392 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,640 not do that. It was all just like, here are 393 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,279 the facts. These men are accused of evil doing, breaking 394 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:28,240 the law. Right, it wasn't filtered through the prism of 395 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,079 political retribution. And by the way, whenever you see somebody 396 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,640 using the term retribution on this stuff, on this particular 397 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,359 story with Jim Comy, a fun follow up question to 398 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:46,680 ask them is retribution for what? Why would Donald Trump 399 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,279 be trying to engage in retribution against Jim Comy If 400 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Jim Comey didn't do anything against Donald Trump, which of 401 00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:58,480 course we do know he did. We know from the 402 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,519 all of the docum We've been covering them for the 403 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:05,799 last five months, right, the documents that were supposed to 404 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:09,480 have been destroyed but did not get destroyed. That showed 405 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:15,319 the meetings between the intelligence community officials and how they 406 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:20,799 laundered the Steele dossier into phiz acord applications and into 407 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,119 the presidential daily briefings and use it as a predicate 408 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,880 for the full blown Crossfire Hurricane investigation. Just utter corruption 409 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:34,559 and the manipulation of fake information, dressing it up as 410 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:37,599 if it was legitimate intel and it wasn't, in order 411 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,680 to justify spying on the presidential campaign of Donald Trump 412 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,000 and then going after all the people around him and 413 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:52,599 trying to cripple Trump's nascent first term administration. 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Another anonymous text 451 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,680 rem remember how much mileage the left tried to get 452 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,039 out of lying to Congress when it was Oliver north 453 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Old Ollie, Yes, Oli north did, didn't. Jeff says Pete 454 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,799 that Comy sound By should say there are consequences to 455 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,480 repeatedly trying to frame Donald Trump those of us. Oh, yeah, 456 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,440 i'd say so. I don't know what that was. Oh 457 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,640 that was my fault. Sorry, do do do do? Do do do? 458 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:33,599 I don't know who this is to? Is this to me? 459 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,759 Thank you so much for your opening words. Oh I 460 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:49,240 guess the Morning Show had Bill Graham on m openly 461 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,559 omidst major event. Okay, I did not hear the segment, 462 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:57,279 so I don't know what he said. Kirk is saying 463 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,799 he seemed to be painting the indictment as weaponizing the 464 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,880 d against political enemies, but did not mention how the 465 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,160 DOJ was used against Orange Man and his minions. Right, well, 466 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,359 and again, So here's the and here to me is 467 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,559 the difference is that you have an actual predicate for 468 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:22,079 the indictment. There is evidence that Jim Comey lied to Congress. 469 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,799 And if you're not, Look, if you don't want it 470 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960 to be a felony to lie to Congress, then get 471 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,119 rid of the law. Then just say the law is. 472 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,440 We're going to amend it and we're going to wipe 473 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,839 it away. And now you are allowed to lie to Congress. 474 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,079 We're not going to put people under oath. It doesn't matter, right, 475 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,599 But if it does matter, and I believe it should, 476 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,319 that when you when you testify, you take an oath 477 00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:52,640 to tell the truth under penalty of perjury. There has 478 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:59,079 to be a penalty if you lie. Otherwise there's no point. 479 00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:04,640 McCabe admitted under wrote that he himself leaked info and 480 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,160 then on the next day told Komy. So Comy did 481 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,599 not authorize the leak, right, but McCabe said he took 482 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,400 it as an authorization. See this is what I mean. 483 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,279 We're gonna find out who was lying about it, whether 484 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:19,720 or not Comy knew or not. And again we don't 485 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,599 have the evidence. We have what McCabe said, and we 486 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,839 have what Comy said, but we don't know whether or 487 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,559 not there was authorization. Did he directly say go leak this, 488 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,680 or maybe here's the other thing. Komy is suspected of 489 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:38,279 leaking other things to the media, not just this one instance. 490 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,079 So there could be a whole bunch of other incidents, 491 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,640 because we know he was using that law school friend 492 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,000 of his as the cutout. He would pass along information 493 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,240 to this friend of his, and then the friend would 494 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,519 leak it to the media. And unless you we are 495 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:58,599 to believe that Komy had no idea that all the 496 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,160 things he was telling his buddy somehow or another ended 497 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,799 up in the Washington Post all the time. Like so, 498 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,680 like I said, I'm willing to wait and see what 499 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000 the evidence is. But the fact that they got an 500 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:20,480 indictment is not automatically proof of quote political retribution. Name 501 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920 one innocent conservative who was rotting in jail, well it 502 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,240 would have been, well, not a conservative, but it would 503 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,359 have been Donald Trump had had he not won, because 504 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,680 that's where they were trying to throw him. And then 505 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,119 Jack Smith had to drop the charges when Trump won. 506 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,279 That's the only reason those charges against him got dropped 507 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,160 is because he won. So, yeah, they were looking to 508 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160 imprison Donald Trump for the rest of his life. That 509 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,720 was the point. And by the way. That's what the prosecutors, 510 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:52,960 Alvin Bragg and Leticia James, this is what they ran on, 511 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:59,759 a promise to indict and to convict Donald Trump so 512 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:04,640 he couldn't be president again. That was their overt, explicit 513 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:09,279 promise on the campaign trail and in the Manhattan DA's office. 514 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,799 You'll recall one of the guys who was involved in 515 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,240 the DOJ, Weisman I think was his name, left his 516 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,480 gig in the DOJ and went to work in the 517 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:26,319 Manhattan DA's office to prosecute Trump. And there were meetings 518 00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,759 with the White House about it. So don't tell me 519 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:33,240 that Donald Trump is sort of plowing new ground here. 520 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,920 He absolutely is not well. Like I said, this is 521 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,200 not the going around phase of what goes around comes around. 522 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,440 This is the coming around phase. And I told you 523 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,920 you are not gonna like it when it does. All right, 524 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,319 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 525 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,400 for listening. I could not do the show without your 526 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 527 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,920 the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too 528 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,720 and tell them you heard it here. You can also 529 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:04,359 become a patron at my Patreon page or go to 530 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,200 dpetecleanershow dot com again, thank you so much for listening, 531 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,920 and don't break anything while I'm gone.