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your support. Head on a swivel all you Swifties out there.
Donald Trump is apparently coming for you guys. That's what
I can that's my assessment after the news broke that
the world's second most famous swifty has been indicted. So
I can only assume all of you millions of Swifties
are also being targeted as well, including like I gotta
believe Travis Kelcey as well. I mean, I know where
he's going to be on Sunday, so I think so,
or maybe they're playing a Thursday game or Monday night game.
I don't know, but like they publish his schedule, So
if you're looking to round up the Swifties, like you
know where he's gonna be, yes, so Jim Comey gets
indicted in an unprecedented Yeah, example of a politician, in
this case the president of the United States targeting his
political opponents, like the Swifties, James Comey, big swifty head.
Is that what they call them? Swift? I guess swifty
is just the name Big Swifty. And remember I played
his audio a couple of weeks back where he talked
about how he was so moved by Taylor Swift's legacy
and her art and everything, and her lyrics and her songs,
and she's in the little He's in a group chat
with his family members, the Swifty group chat among famis
members and stuff. Yeah, we've never seen anything like this before.
This is the narrative that the Democrats and the media.
But I repeat myself, this is what they are going
with that there is simply no precedent for a president
going after his political opponents. As if we all did
not see what just happened over the last five years.
You do realize, Democrats and media, you do realize that
only like a child under the age of ten would
not be aware of the recent history here of attempting
to throw Donald Trump in jail for the rest of
his life, and the indictments and the targeted attacks against
almost two dozen of the people that worked for him
and with him. You realize we know this, like we
were all watching, we were all paying, we were covering it,
we were talking about it. It's not unprecedented. In fact,
when y'all were doing it under the last administration, we
kept telling you that this is a terrible precedent to
be doing this, because you're going to get turnabout, especially
if somebody like Donald Trump or Donald Trump himself were
to ascend to the presidency again. And now here we are,
the president was already set. This is what you call turnabout.
This is the turnabout phase of the FAFO. Okay, this
is now the right playing by your rules, which people
on the right told you these are not good rules
to establish, blowing up the norms and such. But I
know you said this was all to save the democracy,
and now you're like, oh my god, gosh, but what's
going to happen. You know, when the Democrats take over,
then they're going to do it right back to you.
That's a fair point. That is an absolutely fair point.
I don't want to live in a society where just
because you lose an election that means you get thrown
in jail. That's Banana republic type stuff.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Never, by the way, never have been able to locate
Banana Republic on the map, but I am assured it
does exist. But that is the kind of thing that
a Banana republic does, not the retail store, but the
But yeah, like third world dictatorships and such. But luckily,
not only did you guys set a precedent for prosecuting
your political opponents, but you also set another precedent. Do
you remember this one? This one's actually a little bit
more recent. It's like not even a year old. You
know what it is? Did you guess pardons? If you did,
you are correct. That's right. All of the pardons that
you can hand out as the president, you can even
do them preemptively. You can have them go back and
cover a decade's worth of moulfeasans and illegal activity. Just
blanket pardons for everybody and anybody in your orbit, in
your administration. Just mass pardons for everybody, and you could
just have the auto pen sign them all. You don't
even have to be aware of all of the people
you're pardoning. Yet another precedent that we said you guys
probably shouldn't do that. That's kind of a norm busting outrage.
You said, ha haha, screw you. We're going to be
in power forever, Niah, now not anymore. And so now
we've got another president. I suspect that Donald Trump will
also use which will be to part in everybody. So
then you can't charge any of his people with doing
anything illegal, which you are so convinced that he has done,
so convinced that you've indicted everybody, and then you send
people to jail for lying to Congress, which is precisely
what Jim Comey got indicted for. By the way, in
a very lefty area, a grand jury pulled from the
eastern district of Virginia. I believe this is not exactly
Maga country where people are trying to assault folks coming
from a subway shop at two am in a blizzard,
in a polar vortex. Right, not exactly Maga country, and
a grand jury indicted Jim Comy. Let me read a statement,
because this is why perjury matters. Okay, lying to government investigators,
this is why a perjury charge is so serious. The
justice system is an honor system. We really can't always
tell when people are lying or hiding documents, so when
we are able to prove it, we simply must do so.
As a message to everyone. There was once a time
when most people worried about going to hell if they
violated an oath taken in the name of God. That
divine deterrence has slipped away from our modern cultures. In
its place, people must fear going to jail. They must
fear their lives being turned upside down. They must fear
their pictures splashed on newspapers and websites. People must fear
having their name forever associated with a criminal act. If
we are to have a nation with a rule of law,
the defendant lied blatantly in the justice system. To protect
the institution of justice and reinforce a culture of truth telling,
the defendant had to be prosecuted. I am very confident
that should the circumstance arise, the defendant would not lie
to federal investigators. Again, do you know who said that.
If you guess Jim Comey, you are correct. Jim Comy
said that he was talking about Martha Stewart, who they
sent to prison for lying to federal investigators about not
for not for Insider trading, but they didn't charge her
with that right. They charged her with the with the lion.
That's what she went down for. That's Jim Comy in
his book. Since the announcement of the indictment from a
grand jury of his peers, he issued a statement which
I think he's wearing makeup, which is weird.
Speaker 2: My family and I have known for years that there
are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we
couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not
live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that
I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool
of a tyrant.
Speaker 1: She's right, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either.
I hope instead you are engaged, You are paying attention,
and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it,
which it does.
Speaker 1: Ah, catastrophism.
Speaker 2: My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but
I have great confidence in the federal judicial system. I'm innocent,
So let's have a trial.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool and keep the faith?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well let's do that. Then. I completely agree.
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dot Com. Here is Senator Richard Blumenthal sending a warning
to Republicans after James Comey was indicted, warning that, you know,
Democrats could do the same to a conservative figure next.
I mean, you guys better be aware that this could
happen to you. Now the old thing, what.
Speaker 3: Comes around goes around, you know today it's a Republican bet,
but degrading the democracy and ruining literally perverting the great
ethos and tradition of the Department of Justice where I
was in awe when I walked through those halls as
a federal prosecutor. I think it's time for Republican colleague
to say enough is enough, and we're going to push
them and.
Speaker 1: Do it hard. Okay, So yeah, this is the thing.
As Sonny Wright said on social media, I wonder if
making a million excuses for Biden's DOJ trying to imprison
Biden's top opponent while Biden part in his own family
for crimes might have had repercussions. These are the repercussions.
And to use Blumenthal's phrase, there, this isn't the going around,
this is the coming around, right, He said, what goes
around comes around, This is the comes around. Part you
guys did this. You blew up the norms. You said
that the democracy was at stake, and by blowing up
the norms, you then give the wreckage over to Donald Trump,
who you say, is this authoritarian? And what you did
was deconstruct those norms ahead of his ascendancy or reascendancy,
ahead of him retaking control of the government. You blew
up the guard rails, which doesn't seem like a very
smart thing to have done. Here is Larry O'Connor. O'Connor,
he is a radio host at wma L in Washington,
and he was on with Mark Halpern, who does a
YouTube show called Next Up, which is I think it's
I think he does a good job and he brings
on different people. So this is Larry O'Connor talking about
the Komy indictment.
Speaker 4: Here everyone's trying to equivocate this, as you know, Trump
going after his political opponents. James Comy is not running
for office, he's not an elected official. He was one
of the most powerful law if not the most powerful
law enforcement officers in the country as the FBI director,
and if he abused his power and lied to Congress
and their oversight role while in that role, he should
be prosecuted. And that's not a political opponent. It's not
like what was done to Donald Trump where he was
running for office and these laws were sort of, you know,
creatively applied to him, as you point out. Secondly, I
think that when you look at this subjectively speaking, when
you look at the facts and take the politics out
of the way, and I understand that that's difficult. When
you look at those two cases in New York, the
Letitia James case and the Alvin Bragg case, it's pretty
hard to figure out just looking at them on face
value and looking at the facts what law was broken,
let alone whether Donald Trump was guilty of breaking those laws.
You really have to sort of contort yourself and twist
yourself in the pretzel.
Speaker 5: And they were unprecedented. There had been cases like that
they and the bar and the bar rather than being
higher for a former president and the front runner for
the presidency, the bar was lowered.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Add to that the fact that they ran for office
as a campaign incentive, vote for me, and I'll do this,
as you said. Secondly, when you do the exact same
thing with Director Comy, when you look at his testimony
under oath before Congress about whether he leaked information and
whether we talked to the press, and his conduct during
the early days of the cross for a hurricane investigation,
and Donald Trump objectively speaking, if you set politics asiety,
it's hard not to see that. Yeah, it sure looks
like he didn't tell the truth under oath. That's perjury
and that should mean something. But secondly, he also openly
bragged about what I would characterize as abuse of power
when going after General Flynn. You know that that famous
exchange with Nicole Wallace when James Comy was selling his book.
Maybe you can run the clip here on the podcast
where he laughs about the fact that he took advantage
of the chaotic early days of the Trump White House
he would have never done it under Obama or Bush,
and sent an agent in there to talk to Mike
Flynn and potentially trap him in a perjury trap.
Speaker 1: By the way, the agent that he sent was Peter.
Speaker 4: Struck, the guy who was text messaging with Lisa Page.
Speaker 5: The most anti Trump FBI agent maybe ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the thing on the merits. This is
and I don't know, by the way, like I don't
know because at the heart of this charge, the accusation
of perjury, is whether or not Comy told mccab Andrew McCabe,
his number two guy, whether he told him to leak
this stuff, whether it was quote authorized or not. McCabe
says it came from Comy. Comy says didn't come from me.
So one of them is lying, And it could be
that Comy isn't. We're gonna find out. But there is
an enough probable cause here. There is enough evidence for
a grand jury to indict. So again, a grand jury
in a Democrat district. This isn't like venue shopping into Manhattan,
so you can get a jury pool that voted ninety
six percent against Trump. This is not that so like
these are not exactly analogous number. Next up, this is
saying guy Larry O'Connor from wm AL, responding to the
charge that this is hypocrisy.
Speaker 4: Those of us on the right mark feel that the
only way this stops is if a couple of them
start to get indicted in that. I know that seems wrong,
I know that seems hypocritical, but they need to recognize
these tools can be used against them until they stand
up and say, Okay, enough.
Speaker 5: I understand it, and and I get eye for an eye,
and and and I get the the you know, people
tell me there's all this game theory that show. Unless
you make them pay a price for it, they'll keep
doing it. I don't like either. But what I also
don't like is the is the is the fact that
the media and academia just sides with one side. It's
one thing for partisans to be partisans. It's another for
it to be two on one ers. You said maybe
more than two and.
Speaker 1: One, right, So this is the This is the argument
that the right has been having. And if you are
not on the right, you probably are unaware of this argument.
How to respond to the unprecedented abuses that the Democrats
engaged in against Donald Trump and conservatives and by the way,
have been doing so for decades like the and this
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and we're going to get into that. But the this
issue of how to respond. Do you just disarm and say, okay,
you know what, you can imprison us, take all of
our wealth, get us debarred or disbarred. Rather, you can
do all of this stuff against Yes, but we have
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Former FBI Director James Comy indicted on criminal charges related
to allegations that he lied to Congress during testimony in
twenty twenty about whether he authorized a leak of information.
Comy is facing one count of false statements and one
count of obstruction of justice. According to a release from
the Department of Justice, the statute of limitations for the
perjury charge was going to run out on September thirtieth
because that's when it's a five year statute of limitations.
And he allegedly lied on September thirty, twenty twenty, before
the Senate Judiciary Committee when he said that he never
authorized anybody at the FBI to leak information to the
press related to the investigations of either possible collusion between
Trump and Russia or Hillary Clinton's use of an unauthorized
email system. Okay, so that's the nature of the charge.
We don't have evidence presented yet, so we don't know
how strong the evidence is right at this point, but
obviously there was enough that the grand jury indicted. There
is a fellow named John Lefevre Lefevert le Fever le Fevere. Anyway,
he's an author, and he said they changed the law
to bankrupt Trump, they converted expired misdemeanors into felonies to
jail him. They threatened lawyers with disbarment for defending Trump,
and now they cry that real justice is actually retribution.
So if you are not understanding why MAGA and why
Republicans and conservatives are looking at this differently, Larry O'Connor
spells it out. I've got more audio from his interview
that he did with Mark Halprin, but I get the feeling.
And O'Connor said this that like, looking back now post
Charlie Kirk assassination, half the country really has no idea
what conservatives think and why they really don't understand conservatives
at all. Let's see here. This is from Ted Cruz,
who has a podcast because everybody does, and his pot
cast is called Verdict, and he said, this indictment is
not for being an opponent of Donald Trump. It's not
for being a political figure on the other side of
Donald Trump. This indictment is for deliberately and knowingly lying
under oath to the US Senate, which is a clear
and unmistakable felony. Right, Like, the evidence is going to
show whether or not Comy lied or not. Right, we
should be able to figure this out in the trial
when the evidence is presented. We will then be able
to make make our own determinations, make up our own minds.
I don't know. It seems like he did, considering his
track record, right, his violation of all sorts of ethical
protocols and stuff over the years, so it wouldn't surprise
me one bit. But maybe Andrew McCabe is lying. I
don't know. We'll find out hopefully, so I'm withholding judgment
on this, but it seems pretty clear that if they've
got evidence that he lied to Congress, then yes, he
should be indicted. That's the only way this stops people
lying to Congress in order to protect a particular leader
at that time, it was Joe Biden. If you want
that stuff to stop, then you have to drop the
hammer on these bureaucrats and these officials when they lie
to Congress. It's the only way this gets better. I
don't know any other way out except violence, and I
don't want to see that. Former White House Press Secretary
Ari Fleischer. He did a screenshot of several of the
headlines over the contempt charges against Stephen Bannon. Steve Bannon right,
he refused to comply with subpoenas from the House. Peter Navarro,
he got indicted. He says, I don't know if James
Comy is innocent or guilty, but I do know that
when the Biden doj indicted, Trump aids Peter Navarro and
Steve Bannon. The Washington Post in New York Times treated
it as if it were straight news. They did not
treat this as Biden going after his opponents. They did
not do that. It was all just like, here are
the facts. These men are accused of evil doing, breaking
the law. Right, it wasn't filtered through the prism of
political retribution. And by the way, whenever you see somebody
using the term retribution on this stuff, on this particular
story with Jim Comy, a fun follow up question to
ask them is retribution for what? Why would Donald Trump
be trying to engage in retribution against Jim Comy If
Jim Comey didn't do anything against Donald Trump, which of
course we do know he did. We know from the
all of the docum We've been covering them for the
last five months, right, the documents that were supposed to
have been destroyed but did not get destroyed. That showed
the meetings between the intelligence community officials and how they
laundered the Steele dossier into phiz acord applications and into
the presidential daily briefings and use it as a predicate
for the full blown Crossfire Hurricane investigation. Just utter corruption
and the manipulation of fake information, dressing it up as
if it was legitimate intel and it wasn't, in order
to justify spying on the presidential campaign of Donald Trump
and then going after all the people around him and
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text line lying to Congress slippery slope can be traced
back to WJ. Clinton and the whole I did not
have sexual relations with that woman. Democrats in the Senate
let him off the hook because it was just a
white lie precedent set and everybody else who does not
like the truth finds their own gray like gray area,
not black and white to justify it. Another anonymous text
rem remember how much mileage the left tried to get
out of lying to Congress when it was Oliver north
Old Ollie, Yes, Oli north did, didn't. Jeff says Pete
that Comy sound By should say there are consequences to
repeatedly trying to frame Donald Trump those of us. Oh, yeah,
i'd say so. I don't know what that was. Oh
that was my fault. Sorry, do do do do? Do do do?
I don't know who this is to? Is this to me?
Thank you so much for your opening words. Oh I
guess the Morning Show had Bill Graham on m openly
omidst major event. Okay, I did not hear the segment,
so I don't know what he said. Kirk is saying
he seemed to be painting the indictment as weaponizing the
d against political enemies, but did not mention how the
DOJ was used against Orange Man and his minions. Right, well,
and again, So here's the and here to me is
the difference is that you have an actual predicate for
the indictment. There is evidence that Jim Comey lied to Congress.
And if you're not, Look, if you don't want it
to be a felony to lie to Congress, then get
rid of the law. Then just say the law is.
We're going to amend it and we're going to wipe
it away. And now you are allowed to lie to Congress.
We're not going to put people under oath. It doesn't matter, right,
But if it does matter, and I believe it should,
that when you when you testify, you take an oath
to tell the truth under penalty of perjury. There has
to be a penalty if you lie. Otherwise there's no point.
McCabe admitted under wrote that he himself leaked info and
then on the next day told Komy. So Comy did
not authorize the leak, right, but McCabe said he took
it as an authorization. See this is what I mean.
We're gonna find out who was lying about it, whether
or not Comy knew or not. And again we don't
have the evidence. We have what McCabe said, and we
have what Comy said, but we don't know whether or
not there was authorization. Did he directly say go leak this,
or maybe here's the other thing. Komy is suspected of
leaking other things to the media, not just this one instance.
So there could be a whole bunch of other incidents,
because we know he was using that law school friend
of his as the cutout. He would pass along information
to this friend of his, and then the friend would
leak it to the media. And unless you we are
to believe that Komy had no idea that all the
things he was telling his buddy somehow or another ended
up in the Washington Post all the time. Like so,
like I said, I'm willing to wait and see what
the evidence is. But the fact that they got an
indictment is not automatically proof of quote political retribution. Name
one innocent conservative who was rotting in jail, well it
would have been, well, not a conservative, but it would
have been Donald Trump had had he not won, because
that's where they were trying to throw him. And then
Jack Smith had to drop the charges when Trump won.
That's the only reason those charges against him got dropped
is because he won. So, yeah, they were looking to
imprison Donald Trump for the rest of his life. That
was the point. And by the way. That's what the prosecutors,
Alvin Bragg and Leticia James, this is what they ran on,
a promise to indict and to convict Donald Trump so
he couldn't be president again. That was their overt, explicit
promise on the campaign trail and in the Manhattan DA's office.
You'll recall one of the guys who was involved in
the DOJ, Weisman I think was his name, left his
gig in the DOJ and went to work in the
Manhattan DA's office to prosecute Trump. And there were meetings
with the White House about it. So don't tell me
that Donald Trump is sort of plowing new ground here.
He absolutely is not well. Like I said, this is
not the going around phase of what goes around comes around.
This is the coming around phase. And I told you
you are not gonna like it when it does. All right,
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