WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.720 It was only proper to have a sit down conversation, 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:05.559 catch up and not only but just like see what 3 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:08.679 you have going on and. 4 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:10.919 Not anymore in the East Coast. I am both on 5 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:11.960 the East Coast now. 6 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:14.640 Yes, So I felt like it was you know, we've 7 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:16.679 been trying to like get together. So I felt like, like, 8 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:18.760 let's clink it off here at Power Talk and like 9 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:19.719 let's rebirth this. 10 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.679 Yeah, I'm glad you moved your podcast over. 11 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.039 Yeah, we've been having a lot of fun. It's been 12 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.000 definitely you know, Season six has been challenging in the beginning, 13 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.640 but I think we were off to a really good 14 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:33.320 like start. We have a great studio, great space, we 15 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.479 have a great yeah, and it's great that we Yeah, 16 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.039 we're we're rocking in a. 17 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:38.960 Rolling I'm excited. 18 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.200 I'm excited to have my favorite rock and roller. 19 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.759 Oh, I know, I came in. Everybody was like, wow, 20 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:46.119 you're a rock star like me. 21 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:48.600 It's funny Texas here. 22 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.159 You know, they're used to having me here. You know, 23 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.399 I'm like the queen over here. But also you know 24 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:56.840 royalty when they come into the building and like everyone 25 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.119 to have their crops and their flowers, and so I 26 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.079 think that it's you know, no better way to give 27 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.439 you a proper in welcoming to the private talk you 28 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:06.120 know podcast. 29 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:07.319 Yeah for sure. 30 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:08.920 So what have you been up to? I know that 31 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.879 you are all over the place you were at En 32 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.280 Yeah me a little bit like you were all over 33 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.040 the place which you were just you know, such a 34 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.480 mogul and have such a you know, a iconic brand 35 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:22.159 in this industry. 36 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:27.439 Well, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. This is 37 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.159 a very you know, strange time in life. Like I 38 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.319 felt like, I feel like I've always had like a 39 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.640 plan and I do not really have one right now, 40 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:41.200 which is kind of freeing and kind of terrifying at 41 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:41.760 the same time. 42 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:42.879 But let me get into it. 43 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.079 But you know, I have a few things that I'm 44 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:47.560 now like working on that I don't want to like 45 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:48.480 say anything until I know. 46 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:51.400 Okay, so let's break down. But what not having a 47 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.799 plan is like, Well, let's talk about Like, Okay, miss Joanna, 48 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.040 I feel like you've been such a structured, like you know, 49 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.319 a person from the beginning. I own you know, in essense, 50 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.079 it was your own, your own business. You've done all 51 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.599 these things. But it's like in our industry, I feel 52 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.799 like there's never really structure, right. We have structured business 53 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.479 wise and brand wise and the things that we want 54 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.639 to do, but it's also a business where we also 55 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:14.599 age regardless if we want to believe it or not. 56 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.639 So that means like sometimes our likes are wants, our 57 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.479 needs are different, So we are evolving in certain things 58 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.520 and life. Just so you know what has changed about 59 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.360 and the thing of like as far as you's like planning, 60 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:26.759 like let's talk about that a little bit more like 61 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.400 the in depth of like everyone obviously knows that you 62 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.080 are a business woman. Yeah, what is not having a 63 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:32.639 plan money? 64 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:38.439 In addition to like I think before I was sometimes 65 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.560 I think I'm actually a terrible business woman. But I've 66 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:45.159 always been very like excited, Like I've always been a 67 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:50.479 creative person, and I get excited about making my creativity 68 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.439 come to life. And I'm pretty good at forcing it 69 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.599 down to people's throats, Like I love everything that I 70 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:58.520 do and then I you know, I want it. People 71 00:02:58.520 --> 00:02:59.759 are like, you're good at marketing, and I'm like, I 72 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.639 don't know, I'm good at marketing. I just will not 73 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.439 stop until whatever I did succeeds or I put myself 74 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.520 in these do or die situations where it's like I'm 75 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.680 gonna make this movie that I can't even afford to make, 76 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:11.520 or that's what I used to do, and I'm just 77 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.039 gonna make it successful, like I just will do it 78 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:15.479 and I'm going to figure it out, even if it 79 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.719 makes no sense and it's like not following any trends 80 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:21.479 or like whatever. But you know, that was many years ago. 81 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.599 You know. You know, I owned my own production company 82 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.080 for quite some time, and that was you know, that 83 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.080 was my whole identity, my whole brand, my whole life. 84 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.759 You know, when you own a business, you don't go 85 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.000 home from work and you know, the business was burning 86 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.319 Angel and I'm Joanna Angel, you know, like it was 87 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.800 me and you know, and that's that doesn't that's not 88 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.560 mine anymore, and you know, and then I had like 89 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.639 my own whatever. You know, I came to peace with 90 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:50.400 that and I was, you know, glad that I did it. 91 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.520 And then I made the decision to. 92 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.039 Move back to the East Coast because. 93 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:58.319 I've always I've always loved the East Coast. It always 94 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.400 felt like home, you know, and I felt like everything 95 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.199 I came to La to do I did, and the 96 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:07.520 things that I was still doing there weren't you know, 97 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.280 consistent enough for you know, I didn't need to live 98 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.560 there to do the handful of things I was still 99 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.919 doing in LA and most of them I barely go 100 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.560 back at all, you know. Yeah, so there's that. And 101 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.439 then yeah, so I guess I think people started to 102 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:28.120 really like associate. My brand was kind of I don't know. 103 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.000 I mean, I think me and my husband kind of 104 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:34.279 had a little brand of our I guess, I don't know, 105 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:36.439 I don't really know. You know, that was a big 106 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:40.240 part of my I guess, brand and identity. And then 107 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.120 that that is over, well, I mean, I guess not. 108 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.600 I guess there's still details of the the final logistics 109 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:49.399 sort of, but we're you know, we're not together anymore. 110 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:53.879 So okay, yeah, so it's pretty public and everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah, 111 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:54.959 now people people know. 112 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.279 Yeah, I don't really need to share like the specific 113 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.360 details of what happened, you know, just but it's over, 114 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:08.759 that's for sure. And and I am okay with that. 115 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.319 You know, it was you know, I sort of initiated that, so, 116 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.639 you know, but and I was living in Brooklyn, and 117 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.560 that is also where my family lives. 118 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.759 Well, was there some members that's related or is it 119 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.639 just like the relationship wise as far as like it 120 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.600 is it business related or is it more of just personal? 121 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:29.120 Oh? 122 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.839 Honestly, like I'm gonna say personal, Like a lot of 123 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:37.680 it's weird because people love to just generalize porn and 124 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:39.920 they think they get it when they don't. And it's 125 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.720 like unless you've lived it, like you really don't understand, 126 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.319 you know, what it's like to be in this business 127 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.959 and to be in a relationship. You know, it's very 128 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.319 it's complicated, but it's not complicated in the way that 129 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.160 everybody thinks it's complicated. Like like the fights that people 130 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.079 think that we have are not actually the fights that 131 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:57.680 people have, do you know what I mean? 132 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.000 Yeah, like like everybody. 133 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.480 But he's like, well, don't you get jealous Like I 134 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.920 feel like jealousy is the last thing that's an issue, 135 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:05.759 and like, but. 136 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:10.040 I aship, but I agree with that obviously have been 137 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.560 being in one prior to the more say things whatever, 138 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.120 I feel like, yes, and no, I think that it's 139 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.560 a jealousy of certain like the external what people really 140 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:24.160 think jealousy is. The internal jealousy is where it stems from. 141 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.920 Is because people, you know, with ourselves, everybody has like 142 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.680 our underlining things whatever. So it's like we still need validation, 143 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:33.079 especially from our partner, you know what I mean. So 144 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.800 there's where the cracks lie of like where that could 145 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:43.720 be misconstrued as far as like that part for myself personally. 146 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:44.279 It's very complicated. 147 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.639 Nobody through it twice and. 148 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.360 Back in these situations, and it's like again too, it's 149 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.680 like you can't be hard on yourself of you trying 150 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:56.519 again and you say it's like your second time. But 151 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.000 love is love, you love you love, and everyone has 152 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.879 experiences and expiration dates of certain things, and people either 153 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.519 come from a time or reason or a season. Yeah, 154 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.560 you know, you have to just indulge in and embrace 155 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.199 those moments that you had that are beautiful and taking 156 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:10.959 things that you need. 157 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:16.120 And what was I mean, there was there's you know, 158 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.839 I'm in a very different time in life. 159 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:18.959 But yeah, a. 160 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.120 Few people who you know, I spoke to afterwards, you know, 161 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.600 not in the industry. You know, it was like, oh, 162 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:27.000 you know, separating whatever. And then I remember somebody said, well, yeah, 163 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.319 I can imagine, like it's probably really hard to have 164 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.680 a relationship in your industry, and like, first of all, 165 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.959 it's not my industry. And second of all, like that's 166 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.279 such a weird thing to say, Like we were together 167 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.560 for twelve years, Like didn't you think like if that 168 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.240 was an issue, like how would we have lasted that long? 169 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:42.480 You know? 170 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:48.399 And I honestly think, without getting into like too many details, 171 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.959 like I honestly think towards the end, like I think 172 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:56.160 the porn was what's the only thing keeping us toget, 173 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.480 like you know, our I think our personas were married 174 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.319 and an hour growing apart things. I think I think 175 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:08.160 the real us weren't weren't really mess meshing. And the 176 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.519 only times we were feeling that, you know, that magic 177 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:18.240 or that connection was when we were doing something public together, 178 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.720 and sometimes it was hard and confusing to be like, 179 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:22.519 oh everything's fine, and it was like, oh no, we 180 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.680 were just kind of both playing a role. If that 181 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.839 makes any sense. Well, I think I was never playing 182 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:30.759 a role because I'm a very bad actress. I don't know. 183 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.679 I think I was always just being me. But whatever, 184 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:37.120 it doesn't matter. Yes, yes, I was really just playing myself. 185 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.480 It's again, and it's it's I appreciate you for being 186 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.000 open and sharing. Yeah, it's a safe place and it's 187 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:49.159 not a judgment things whatever I'm. 188 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:49.080 Not even saying. 189 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:51.080 I mean, you know, and this is just surface of 190 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.759 just even just identifying just a relationship in the business 191 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.759 of women, of what we've been through and like what 192 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.200 we experience and those things like that is like why 193 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.000 I say it pull my own self and like to 194 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.519 make it like relatable and you know, you know, like 195 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.159 it's just different. Right, So it's like it's it's a 196 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.879 level of like, yeah, you can have your securities and 197 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.000 those things or whatever, but you don't also know your 198 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.039 securities until they're tested. Yeah, so at a certain times 199 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:19.679 you believe in you want these certain things. And then 200 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.799 also we grow apart in it, and we grow apart 201 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.559 from each other. And like you said, like maybe sometimes. 202 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.720 I will say jealousy was not at all any part 203 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.200 of any issue we you know, we we particularly had, 204 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.279 you know, it was just personality differences that I think 205 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:40.159 became more and more apparent when porn wasn't our whole 206 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.559 lives anymore. I think the like we stepped away from 207 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.039 porn and it was like not the center of our 208 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.679 universe anymore, and it was like, oh, you know anyway, 209 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:50.039 but okay, with. 210 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.240 That being said, let's talk about you know, in that sense, 211 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:56.519 So that chapter's closed. Now it's on new beginnings. You know, 212 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.919 you're in a different space, you yeah, and it's a 213 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.519 grieving space, I because you know all those the relationships 214 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.919 need to be that time. But what is dating like? Now? 215 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:04.600 Oh my god? 216 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:06.519 Like coming out of those things, like you've been used 217 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:10.279 for twelve years and in the industry industry, so you're 218 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.799 like now into this what we say that the civilian world? 219 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:19.279 How dating it's it's been really you know. 220 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.120 Because let me guess. You can't get on a dating site, right, Okay. 221 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.440 So I actually just went on one like a few 222 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:35.639 days ago. Okay, I did, and I'm already gonna take 223 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:36.960 myself I'm not even gonna say it. 224 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:39.159 I guess I got it. 225 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.279 That's how you take yourself off, I don't think. 226 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.360 And I did go on one date. 227 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:45.399 Oh how it go? 228 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:46.960 It was fine? 229 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:51.679 Butause was it? Like? Was it coffee? Like it it's 230 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.120 like a drink and like it's small, Like okay because 231 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.320 age of what I'm told, Because I can't go on 232 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.600 those things either because it's either catfish. 233 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.679 Or yeah no. And the guy was like, I was 234 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.120 so sure this wasn't going to be you. That was 235 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:04.720 showing up. 236 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.039 You know, are you going under a Joanna Angel? 237 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:08.320 Yeah? I put, I put. 238 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.600 I mean it's I don't want to put my real 239 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:11.600 you know what I mean. 240 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:13.399 So it's like I have to put a last. 241 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:14.919 Name, and I don't want to put my real last name, 242 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.000 and like I don't know, and I don't I. 243 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.799 Don't have it on your ID. What you don't have 244 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:21.080 that on your ID? Yeah? 245 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.919 I know, but then your my last name is public 246 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.320 on a public website, you know, And I also like, 247 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.440 I don't know, I don't want to hide that, and 248 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.799 I mean, I don't like mys with my tattoos and 249 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.360 like what like it's like, but. 250 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:40.000 I guess maybe I'm also navigating it myself because it's 251 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.480 like if I were ever, I couldn't imagine putting like this, 252 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.480 it's Texas on there, because that's not only like I know, 253 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.679 I wish you could just put you know what I mean, 254 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.879 like a stage name yours, I mean, Angel too is 255 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:52.559 a little like. 256 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:54.159 Is alexis your real name? 257 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:54.879 Yeah? 258 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.320 Yeah? I think that was from our generation, So that's 259 00:11:58.480 --> 00:11:59.600 really a lot of stars. 260 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.960 I can't be any other name that I yeah, And 261 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:05.240 I was like, but now I also know not to 262 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.600 answer my name at all because I'm like, I'm. 263 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:08.279 Not looking back there. 264 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.320 Yeah, I was talking. 265 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.480 And you know, it was this particular dating site that 266 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.039 just kind of I don't know, it showed up in 267 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:17.559 my Instagram, and I thought it was cute. It was 268 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:18.720 like a unique concept. 269 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:19.080 For one. 270 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.600 It wasn't like did you fuck him? No? 271 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.960 No, no, did you have what would you have? 272 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:27.720 No? That was you know, the problem, like, oh god, 273 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:29.759 I wonder if you because I haven't really broke the. 274 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:32.000 News that I just want to be. 275 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:38.240 Like here for weeks. It was really nice that you know. 276 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:43.840 Before and also you know, I like, I do want 277 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.840 to make friends and it's hard to make friends, you know, 278 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.360 these days. So I liked him, you know, I thought 279 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:50.080 he was a nice person. 280 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.320 But no, those but y'all went on actual dating actually 281 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.080 and it's actually Joanna Angels. So he knew who you 282 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.240 were I was, or knew the name. 283 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.799 He was actually very good aboutout it and I will 284 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.279 but what is Everyboddy And this has now happened with 285 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:04.440 a few guys. 286 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.399 Yeah you're going okay, So. 287 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.919 So like he knew, but he. 288 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:14.840 Like, you know, when we were. 289 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.360 Like when we were talking on the on the you know, 290 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.440 when we were just like texting for a little while. 291 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:22.080 So this is like I was asking, Yeah, I was like, 292 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:23.919 you know, he was I was just mostly asking him 293 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:25.639 questions about his work. 294 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.639 You know. He did not say what did No, it 295 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:30.679 was just small talk. 296 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:32.679 I don't know, okay, but no, But because for me 297 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:36.039 it's like also like that's I sometimes don't ask those 298 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:36.879 questions because I don't. 299 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:37.639 See what I know. 300 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.000 I know, well, it was in those times if you're 301 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.519 obviously putting it out there, which I think is a 302 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.720 great thing because you're being foged and laying it out 303 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:47.200 on the table of like taking me as I am. 304 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.159 I see that with my Instagram. I'm like, hey my Instagram, 305 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:50.399 you can find out who the fuck I am. If 306 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.679 you're not fuck you too. But yeah, but. 307 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.200 So yeah, okay, so you know, because he said something 308 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.240 about owning a business, you know, so he talked about 309 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.480 owning a business, and then together we were just sort 310 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:04.120 of talking about like I was like, oh, yeah, I 311 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.000 used to own a business, you know, and and he 312 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:10.360 didn't ask what, you know, what kind or anything for 313 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.039 a while, you know, and then at. 314 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.240 A certain point then no, no, no, he. 315 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.600 Was like he was like, so what kind of business? 316 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.240 Did you run? And I just said, it's really polite 317 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.960 of you to pretend that you didn't know. I don't 318 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.720 know if you really don't know or if you're pretending 319 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.639 you don't know, but either way, you're doing the right thing. 320 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.399 And he was like, do you want me to keep 321 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.080 lying or do you want me you know? So he 322 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.840 knew I were already talking for like two days. 323 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.399 Okay, I have game. 324 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.960 I mean that to me is a gamy like type 325 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:41.480 of thing. That to me is like your balls are 326 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.960 out on the table. You're saying, look, I know what 327 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.159 it is. Face value is because like sometimes I think 328 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.440 for as women, we have to almost put the ball 329 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.679 in their court because they're intimidated by us for whatever reason. 330 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.200 Even if it's only based off you put in your 331 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.120 name completely out there like on the dating site whatever, 332 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.120 that's a big step because you know what that's coming 333 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:02.720 back to you, or you don't know what's coming at 334 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:03.080 you at all. 335 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:03.840 Yeah, what I mean. 336 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.080 So it's like, but I think that that's what is 337 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.120 the disconnect with dating in this world now, is like 338 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.919 there's so many like gray areas, Yeah, where people don't 339 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.480 lay all their cards on the table. 340 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:16.080 I know. 341 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.120 So I feel like for you again, it's why I 342 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.399 again asking more of the questions. I sound like knowledge, 343 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:23.000 but I'm like I'm single too. I'm like, this does 344 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.399 it for me? Dating apps? I feel like is not 345 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:35.159 something that is obtainable in our past based off without 346 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.679 being judgment made to whatever and not judgment that they 347 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.679 care whatever. But for me, it's like I already have 348 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.240 a high wallup of like you know, lexis texass, but 349 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.200 just be honest, but rather me know the honest value 350 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.360 than I could take it where I direction I write. 351 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:51.320 To be for you to like, but it's it's like 352 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:55.320 anyone who's like led with that, Like the few people 353 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:58.279 that I've wound up connecting with, whether we wound up 354 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.159 sleeping together or not, they kind of just pretended or 355 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.320 they just ignored it until later they're like, oh well 356 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:09.240 yeah I've you know, yeah, but they you can't lead 357 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:10.080 with that, you know. 358 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.519 And then and like then it became like, you know. 359 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.879 It is weird being like I don't know if you're 360 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:17.679 the same way, because like when I go somewhere when 361 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:19.799 people are like, oh, you get recognized in this, and 362 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:21.519 then I'm like I get mad when I do and 363 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.679 mad when I don't. You know, like when you don't, 364 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.200 you're like, oh, just nobody like me anymore? 365 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:27.559 Am I old news? 366 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:29.679 And then when you do, it's like, oh, just leave 367 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.360 me alone, you know, like it's kind of like, I 368 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.200 don't know, there's a way to bring it up where 369 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.480 it's like flattering that they're a fan and it's not 370 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.240 weird and invasive, you know, And. 371 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.039 It also just depends on their. 372 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:41.879 Personality in generality environment. 373 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.120 Yeah. Yeah, And like you don't want to feel like 374 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.120 you're on like a talk show or something if somebody's 375 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.759 just like asking you, like like you're on a red carpet, 376 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.120 Like the whole date becomes like asking you questions about 377 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.440 the industry, like oh, so what's this and what's it like? 378 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:55.559 You don't want it to be like that. 379 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:58.360 I know. Well it's like especially like with people, and 380 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:00.000 that's so like if I'm dating them, but like when 381 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:01.679 their friends start to come around and I'm like, y'all 382 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.200 have three questions, get them out here? Yeah, and then 383 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.119 after the three, there's only three, so get them out now. 384 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:07.680 Yeah. 385 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.640 And then because I also know it's intriguing, right, and 386 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:12.720 it's awesome to me as knowledge as power, I'm really 387 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.720 big on communication so for me, it's like I'd rather 388 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.920 you ask me than assume, because most times your assumptions 389 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:18.640 are wrong. 390 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.400 I know, but I expect people to like I've and 391 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.920 I'm sure you have the same. I have many friends 392 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.039 that are in big bands or you know, or whatever, 393 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.960 you know, in sports and whatever, skateboarders, you know, and 394 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.559 I would never sit and talk to them and ask 395 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.680 them a million questions about their jobs and their you know. 396 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:41.440 I treat them like people and if things come up, 397 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.720 things come up, you know. And I also don't I 398 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.759 think porn stars are the only people that get this, 399 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:51.200 like or the like the only type of celebrity that 400 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:54.160 get this. People always want to ask me. I'm sure 401 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:55.599