Speaker 1: It was only proper to have a sit down conversation,
Speaker 1: catch up and not only but just like see what
Speaker 1: you have going on and.
Speaker 2: Not anymore in the East Coast. I am both on
Speaker 2: the East Coast now.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I felt like it was you know, we've
Speaker 1: been trying to like get together. So I felt like, like,
Speaker 1: let's clink it off here at Power Talk and like
Speaker 1: let's rebirth this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you moved your podcast over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been having a lot of fun. It's been
Speaker 1: definitely you know, Season six has been challenging in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but I think we were off to a really good
Speaker 1: like start. We have a great studio, great space, we
Speaker 1: have a great yeah, and it's great that we Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're rocking in a.
Speaker 3: Rolling I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to have my favorite rock and roller.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I came in. Everybody was like, wow,
Speaker 3: you're a rock star like me.
Speaker 2: It's funny Texas here.
Speaker 1: You know, they're used to having me here. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like the queen over here. But also you know
Speaker 1: royalty when they come into the building and like everyone
Speaker 1: to have their crops and their flowers, and so I
Speaker 1: think that it's you know, no better way to give
Speaker 1: you a proper in welcoming to the private talk you
Speaker 1: know podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: So what have you been up to? I know that
Speaker 1: you are all over the place you were at En
Speaker 1: Yeah me a little bit like you were all over
Speaker 1: the place which you were just you know, such a
Speaker 1: mogul and have such a you know, a iconic brand
Speaker 1: in this industry.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. This is
Speaker 3: a very you know, strange time in life. Like I
Speaker 3: felt like, I feel like I've always had like a
Speaker 3: plan and I do not really have one right now,
Speaker 3: which is kind of freeing and kind of terrifying at
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 1: But let me get into it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I have a few things that I'm
Speaker 3: now like working on that I don't want to like
Speaker 3: say anything until I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's break down. But what not having a
Speaker 1: plan is like, Well, let's talk about Like, Okay, miss Joanna,
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been such a structured, like you know,
Speaker 1: a person from the beginning. I own you know, in essense,
Speaker 1: it was your own, your own business. You've done all
Speaker 1: these things. But it's like in our industry, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's never really structure, right. We have structured business
Speaker 1: wise and brand wise and the things that we want
Speaker 1: to do, but it's also a business where we also
Speaker 1: age regardless if we want to believe it or not.
Speaker 1: So that means like sometimes our likes are wants, our
Speaker 1: needs are different, So we are evolving in certain things
Speaker 1: and life. Just so you know what has changed about
Speaker 1: and the thing of like as far as you's like planning,
Speaker 1: like let's talk about that a little bit more like
Speaker 1: the in depth of like everyone obviously knows that you
Speaker 1: are a business woman. Yeah, what is not having a
Speaker 1: plan money?
Speaker 3: In addition to like I think before I was sometimes
Speaker 3: I think I'm actually a terrible business woman. But I've
Speaker 3: always been very like excited, Like I've always been a
Speaker 3: creative person, and I get excited about making my creativity
Speaker 3: come to life. And I'm pretty good at forcing it
Speaker 3: down to people's throats, Like I love everything that I
Speaker 3: do and then I you know, I want it. People
Speaker 3: are like, you're good at marketing, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm good at marketing. I just will not
Speaker 3: stop until whatever I did succeeds or I put myself
Speaker 3: in these do or die situations where it's like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make this movie that I can't even afford to make,
Speaker 3: or that's what I used to do, and I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna make it successful, like I just will do it
Speaker 3: and I'm going to figure it out, even if it
Speaker 3: makes no sense and it's like not following any trends
Speaker 3: or like whatever. But you know, that was many years ago.
Speaker 3: You know. You know, I owned my own production company
Speaker 3: for quite some time, and that was you know, that
Speaker 3: was my whole identity, my whole brand, my whole life.
Speaker 3: You know, when you own a business, you don't go
Speaker 3: home from work and you know, the business was burning
Speaker 3: Angel and I'm Joanna Angel, you know, like it was
Speaker 3: me and you know, and that's that doesn't that's not
Speaker 3: mine anymore, and you know, and then I had like
Speaker 3: my own whatever. You know, I came to peace with
Speaker 3: that and I was, you know, glad that I did it.
Speaker 3: And then I made the decision to.
Speaker 2: Move back to the East Coast because.
Speaker 3: I've always I've always loved the East Coast. It always
Speaker 3: felt like home, you know, and I felt like everything
Speaker 3: I came to La to do I did, and the
Speaker 3: things that I was still doing there weren't you know,
Speaker 3: consistent enough for you know, I didn't need to live
Speaker 3: there to do the handful of things I was still
Speaker 3: doing in LA and most of them I barely go
Speaker 3: back at all, you know. Yeah, so there's that. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, so I guess I think people started to
Speaker 3: really like associate. My brand was kind of I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think me and my husband kind of
Speaker 3: had a little brand of our I guess, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't really know. You know, that was a big
Speaker 3: part of my I guess, brand and identity. And then
Speaker 3: that that is over, well, I mean, I guess not.
Speaker 3: I guess there's still details of the the final logistics
Speaker 3: sort of, but we're you know, we're not together anymore.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, so it's pretty public and everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: now people people know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really need to share like the specific
Speaker 3: details of what happened, you know, just but it's over,
Speaker 3: that's for sure. And and I am okay with that.
Speaker 3: You know, it was you know, I sort of initiated that, so,
Speaker 3: you know, but and I was living in Brooklyn, and
Speaker 3: that is also where my family lives.
Speaker 1: Well, was there some members that's related or is it
Speaker 1: just like the relationship wise as far as like it
Speaker 1: is it business related or is it more of just personal?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Honestly, like I'm gonna say personal, Like a lot of
Speaker 3: it's weird because people love to just generalize porn and
Speaker 3: they think they get it when they don't. And it's
Speaker 3: like unless you've lived it, like you really don't understand,
Speaker 3: you know, what it's like to be in this business
Speaker 3: and to be in a relationship. You know, it's very
Speaker 3: it's complicated, but it's not complicated in the way that
Speaker 3: everybody thinks it's complicated. Like like the fights that people
Speaker 3: think that we have are not actually the fights that
Speaker 3: people have, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like everybody.
Speaker 3: But he's like, well, don't you get jealous Like I
Speaker 3: feel like jealousy is the last thing that's an issue,
Speaker 3: and like, but.
Speaker 1: I aship, but I agree with that obviously have been
Speaker 1: being in one prior to the more say things whatever,
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, and no, I think that it's
Speaker 1: a jealousy of certain like the external what people really
Speaker 1: think jealousy is. The internal jealousy is where it stems from.
Speaker 1: Is because people, you know, with ourselves, everybody has like
Speaker 1: our underlining things whatever. So it's like we still need validation,
Speaker 1: especially from our partner, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: there's where the cracks lie of like where that could
Speaker 1: be misconstrued as far as like that part for myself personally.
Speaker 3: It's very complicated.
Speaker 2: Nobody through it twice and.
Speaker 1: Back in these situations, and it's like again too, it's
Speaker 1: like you can't be hard on yourself of you trying
Speaker 1: again and you say it's like your second time. But
Speaker 1: love is love, you love you love, and everyone has
Speaker 1: experiences and expiration dates of certain things, and people either
Speaker 1: come from a time or reason or a season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to just indulge in and embrace
Speaker 1: those moments that you had that are beautiful and taking
Speaker 1: things that you need.
Speaker 3: And what was I mean, there was there's you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in a very different time in life.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a.
Speaker 3: Few people who you know, I spoke to afterwards, you know,
Speaker 3: not in the industry. You know, it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, separating whatever. And then I remember somebody said, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can imagine, like it's probably really hard to have
Speaker 3: a relationship in your industry, and like, first of all,
Speaker 3: it's not my industry. And second of all, like that's
Speaker 3: such a weird thing to say, Like we were together
Speaker 3: for twelve years, Like didn't you think like if that
Speaker 3: was an issue, like how would we have lasted that long?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And I honestly think, without getting into like too many details,
Speaker 3: like I honestly think towards the end, like I think
Speaker 3: the porn was what's the only thing keeping us toget,
Speaker 3: like you know, our I think our personas were married
Speaker 3: and an hour growing apart things. I think I think
Speaker 3: the real us weren't weren't really mess meshing. And the
Speaker 3: only times we were feeling that, you know, that magic
Speaker 3: or that connection was when we were doing something public together,
Speaker 3: and sometimes it was hard and confusing to be like,
Speaker 3: oh everything's fine, and it was like, oh no, we
Speaker 3: were just kind of both playing a role. If that
Speaker 3: makes any sense. Well, I think I was never playing
Speaker 3: a role because I'm a very bad actress. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I was always just being me. But whatever,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Yes, yes, I was really just playing myself.
Speaker 1: It's again, and it's it's I appreciate you for being
Speaker 1: open and sharing. Yeah, it's a safe place and it's
Speaker 1: not a judgment things whatever I'm.
Speaker 3: Not even saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and this is just surface of
Speaker 1: just even just identifying just a relationship in the business
Speaker 1: of women, of what we've been through and like what
Speaker 1: we experience and those things like that is like why
Speaker 1: I say it pull my own self and like to
Speaker 1: make it like relatable and you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's just different. Right, So it's like it's it's a
Speaker 1: level of like, yeah, you can have your securities and
Speaker 1: those things or whatever, but you don't also know your
Speaker 1: securities until they're tested. Yeah, so at a certain times
Speaker 1: you believe in you want these certain things. And then
Speaker 1: also we grow apart in it, and we grow apart
Speaker 1: from each other. And like you said, like maybe sometimes.
Speaker 3: I will say jealousy was not at all any part
Speaker 3: of any issue we you know, we we particularly had,
Speaker 3: you know, it was just personality differences that I think
Speaker 3: became more and more apparent when porn wasn't our whole
Speaker 3: lives anymore. I think the like we stepped away from
Speaker 3: porn and it was like not the center of our
Speaker 3: universe anymore, and it was like, oh, you know anyway,
Speaker 3: but okay, with.
Speaker 1: That being said, let's talk about you know, in that sense,
Speaker 1: So that chapter's closed. Now it's on new beginnings. You know,
Speaker 1: you're in a different space, you yeah, and it's a
Speaker 1: grieving space, I because you know all those the relationships
Speaker 1: need to be that time. But what is dating like? Now?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Like coming out of those things, like you've been used
Speaker 1: for twelve years and in the industry industry, so you're
Speaker 1: like now into this what we say that the civilian world?
Speaker 3: How dating it's it's been really you know.
Speaker 1: Because let me guess. You can't get on a dating site, right, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I actually just went on one like a few
Speaker 3: days ago. Okay, I did, and I'm already gonna take
Speaker 3: myself I'm not even gonna say it.
Speaker 2: I guess I got it.
Speaker 1: That's how you take yourself off, I don't think.
Speaker 3: And I did go on one date.
Speaker 1: Oh how it go?
Speaker 2: It was fine?
Speaker 1: Butause was it? Like? Was it coffee? Like it it's
Speaker 1: like a drink and like it's small, Like okay because
Speaker 1: age of what I'm told, Because I can't go on
Speaker 1: those things either because it's either catfish.
Speaker 3: Or yeah no. And the guy was like, I was
Speaker 3: so sure this wasn't going to be you. That was
Speaker 3: showing up.
Speaker 1: You know, are you going under a Joanna Angel?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I put, I put.
Speaker 3: I mean it's I don't want to put my real
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like I have to put a last.
Speaker 3: Name, and I don't want to put my real last name,
Speaker 3: and like I don't know, and I don't I.
Speaker 1: Don't have it on your ID. What you don't have
Speaker 1: that on your ID? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know, but then your my last name is public
Speaker 3: on a public website, you know, And I also like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't want to hide that, and
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like mys with my tattoos and
Speaker 3: like what like it's like, but.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I'm also navigating it myself because it's
Speaker 1: like if I were ever, I couldn't imagine putting like this,
Speaker 1: it's Texas on there, because that's not only like I know,
Speaker 1: I wish you could just put you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like a stage name yours, I mean, Angel too is
Speaker 1: a little like.
Speaker 2: Is alexis your real name?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that was from our generation, So that's
Speaker 3: really a lot of stars.
Speaker 1: I can't be any other name that I yeah, And
Speaker 1: I was like, but now I also know not to
Speaker 1: answer my name at all because I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not looking back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking.
Speaker 3: And you know, it was this particular dating site that
Speaker 3: just kind of I don't know, it showed up in
Speaker 3: my Instagram, and I thought it was cute. It was
Speaker 3: like a unique concept.
Speaker 1: For one.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like did you fuck him? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, did you have what would you have?
Speaker 3: No? That was you know, the problem, like, oh god,
Speaker 3: I wonder if you because I haven't really broke the.
Speaker 2: News that I just want to be.
Speaker 1: Like here for weeks. It was really nice that you know.
Speaker 3: Before and also you know, I like, I do want
Speaker 3: to make friends and it's hard to make friends, you know,
Speaker 3: these days. So I liked him, you know, I thought
Speaker 3: he was a nice person.
Speaker 1: But no, those but y'all went on actual dating actually
Speaker 1: and it's actually Joanna Angels. So he knew who you
Speaker 1: were I was, or knew the name.
Speaker 3: He was actually very good aboutout it and I will
Speaker 3: but what is Everyboddy And this has now happened with
Speaker 3: a few guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're going okay, So.
Speaker 2: So like he knew, but he.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, when we were.
Speaker 3: Like when we were talking on the on the you know,
Speaker 3: when we were just like texting for a little while.
Speaker 3: So this is like I was asking, Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, he was I was just mostly asking him
Speaker 3: questions about his work.
Speaker 2: You know. He did not say what did No, it
Speaker 2: was just small talk.
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but no, But because for me
Speaker 1: it's like also like that's I sometimes don't ask those
Speaker 1: questions because I don't.
Speaker 3: See what I know.
Speaker 1: I know, well, it was in those times if you're
Speaker 1: obviously putting it out there, which I think is a
Speaker 1: great thing because you're being foged and laying it out
Speaker 1: on the table of like taking me as I am.
Speaker 1: I see that with my Instagram. I'm like, hey my Instagram,
Speaker 1: you can find out who the fuck I am. If
Speaker 1: you're not fuck you too. But yeah, but.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, so you know, because he said something
Speaker 3: about owning a business, you know, so he talked about
Speaker 3: owning a business, and then together we were just sort
Speaker 3: of talking about like I was like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: used to own a business, you know, and and he
Speaker 3: didn't ask what, you know, what kind or anything for
Speaker 3: a while, you know, and then at.
Speaker 1: A certain point then no, no, no, he.
Speaker 2: Was like he was like, so what kind of business?
Speaker 3: Did you run? And I just said, it's really polite
Speaker 3: of you to pretend that you didn't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you really don't know or if you're pretending
Speaker 3: you don't know, but either way, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: And he was like, do you want me to keep
Speaker 3: lying or do you want me you know? So he
Speaker 3: knew I were already talking for like two days.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have game.
Speaker 1: I mean that to me is a gamy like type
Speaker 1: of thing. That to me is like your balls are
Speaker 1: out on the table. You're saying, look, I know what
Speaker 1: it is. Face value is because like sometimes I think
Speaker 1: for as women, we have to almost put the ball
Speaker 1: in their court because they're intimidated by us for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Even if it's only based off you put in your
Speaker 1: name completely out there like on the dating site whatever,
Speaker 1: that's a big step because you know what that's coming
Speaker 1: back to you, or you don't know what's coming at
Speaker 1: you at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, but I think that that's what is
Speaker 1: the disconnect with dating in this world now, is like
Speaker 1: there's so many like gray areas, Yeah, where people don't
Speaker 1: lay all their cards on the table.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: So I feel like for you again, it's why I
Speaker 1: again asking more of the questions. I sound like knowledge,
Speaker 1: but I'm like I'm single too. I'm like, this does
Speaker 1: it for me? Dating apps? I feel like is not
Speaker 1: something that is obtainable in our past based off without
Speaker 1: being judgment made to whatever and not judgment that they
Speaker 1: care whatever. But for me, it's like I already have
Speaker 1: a high wallup of like you know, lexis texass, but
Speaker 1: just be honest, but rather me know the honest value
Speaker 1: than I could take it where I direction I write.
Speaker 3: To be for you to like, but it's it's like
Speaker 3: anyone who's like led with that, Like the few people
Speaker 3: that I've wound up connecting with, whether we wound up
Speaker 3: sleeping together or not, they kind of just pretended or
Speaker 3: they just ignored it until later they're like, oh well
Speaker 3: yeah I've you know, yeah, but they you can't lead
Speaker 3: with that, you know.
Speaker 2: And then and like then it became like, you know.
Speaker 3: It is weird being like I don't know if you're
Speaker 3: the same way, because like when I go somewhere when
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, you get recognized in this, and
Speaker 3: then I'm like I get mad when I do and
Speaker 3: mad when I don't. You know, like when you don't,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, just nobody like me anymore?
Speaker 2: Am I old news?
Speaker 3: And then when you do, it's like, oh, just leave
Speaker 3: me alone, you know, like it's kind of like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, there's a way to bring it up where
Speaker 3: it's like flattering that they're a fan and it's not
Speaker 3: weird and invasive, you know, And.
Speaker 2: It also just depends on their.
Speaker 1: Personality in generality environment.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And like you don't want to feel like
Speaker 3: you're on like a talk show or something if somebody's
Speaker 3: just like asking you, like like you're on a red carpet,
Speaker 3: Like the whole date becomes like asking you questions about
Speaker 3: the industry, like oh, so what's this and what's it like?
Speaker 3: You don't want it to be like that.
Speaker 1: I know. Well it's like especially like with people, and
Speaker 1: that's so like if I'm dating them, but like when
Speaker 1: their friends start to come around and I'm like, y'all
Speaker 1: have three questions, get them out here? Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: after the three, there's only three, so get them out now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then because I also know it's intriguing, right, and
Speaker 1: it's awesome to me as knowledge as power, I'm really
Speaker 1: big on communication so for me, it's like I'd rather
Speaker 1: you ask me than assume, because most times your assumptions
Speaker 1: are wrong.
Speaker 3: I know, but I expect people to like I've and
Speaker 3: I'm sure you have the same. I have many friends
Speaker 3: that are in big bands or you know, or whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, in sports and whatever, skateboarders, you know, and
Speaker 3: I would never sit and talk to them and ask
Speaker 3: them a million questions about their jobs and their you know.
Speaker 3: I treat them like people and if things come up,
Speaker 3: things come up, you know. And I also don't I
Speaker 3: think porn stars are the only people that get this,
Speaker 3: like or the like the only type of celebrity that
Speaker 3: get this. People always want to ask me. I'm sure
Speaker 3: the same thing happens to you, where all of us
Speaker 3: questions about the industry, like like we're all the same,
Speaker 3: or we're all like like a spokesperson, like especially now,
Speaker 3: I don't even know the industry is so all over
Speaker 3: the place, Like I don't even really know what the
Speaker 3: industry exactly is, I mean, cause it's it spans in
Speaker 3: so many you know, like there's like the industry I
Speaker 3: know is very different than what the industry is, and
Speaker 3: and they want to just ask like these vague general questions.
Speaker 3: It's like if you really want to ask a question,
Speaker 3: like ask a question about me, like have you ever
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Or how did you feel about that, they're just still anooring.
Speaker 3: But like they want to ask like vague.
Speaker 2: It's like you look that up on the internet. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't like the ignorance and like the misconception of
Speaker 1: like we all are the same and like we're all
Speaker 1: one breed or we're all one like this or that
Speaker 1: or the other. Where it's like especially now where it's
Speaker 1: like everybody from you know, there's different like levels of porn,
Speaker 1: and there's genres of porn, different entry levels of porn.
Speaker 1: There's different times from DVD to VHS to fucking Blu
Speaker 1: ray to fucking internet.
Speaker 2: People just assume it's.
Speaker 3: Like all they assume were like all one.
Speaker 1: And the thing is is I think again, why I
Speaker 1: love my show is why I say, like private talk
Speaker 1: is like we're not just what our job is. Right,
Speaker 1: Like for me, it's like porn never identified who I was.
Speaker 1: It's a big part of who I am, right, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't identify who my core is. So like I
Speaker 1: like to get to the core of what it is
Speaker 1: and the surface level is is that does stem from
Speaker 1: a lot of especially this porn stars in those things.
Speaker 1: Like with us, it's like we have a rooted level
Speaker 1: of sexuality. We have a rooted level of understanding people's
Speaker 1: sexuality if it's not our own or not whenever, and
Speaker 1: navigating what those things are and like educating people too,
Speaker 1: And that's why we did what we were doing at
Speaker 1: those times, especially with you being a business owner and
Speaker 1: wanting to show certain like genres of porn and knowing
Speaker 1: how you could do it on your level and your
Speaker 1: creativity is what I I think is missing in this
Speaker 1: era of what's going on in the adult whatever is
Speaker 1: Like I think there's less creativity of the creative aspect
Speaker 1: of movie roles of now and it's just plainly like
Speaker 1: sex work, which is okay too, it's just you shift
Speaker 1: now differently. Right, So why you sold your company, why
Speaker 1: you're doing certain things and like but also still relevant
Speaker 1: in the game you're in, is because you still value
Speaker 1: and appreciate those values of what those things came from,
Speaker 1: and we just have to like eras change through them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and navigate what those are.
Speaker 1: And that's I think, what's a beautiful thing of now
Speaker 1: with the platforms like OnlyFans and those things, and even
Speaker 1: the existing companies like Brassers and Vixen's that are still
Speaker 1: around now that are doing beautiful projects, that are still
Speaker 1: like you know, making your brand, you know, still seeing
Speaker 1: through the people that are we can't get through marketing
Speaker 1: on those levels, on certain levels, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just a different, different evolution.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's very different, I will say, you know,
Speaker 3: if anybody has seen it or hasn't seen it, Like
Speaker 3: I got you know, and I directed for so long,
Speaker 3: and I really like there was a time where I
Speaker 3: was like really creatively burnt out, you know, like it's
Speaker 3: a dream come true where it's your job to be creative,
Speaker 3: but when it's your job to be creative, like it
Speaker 3: can't actually get stressful, especially with the quantity you have
Speaker 3: to put out in the porn industry. It's like I
Speaker 3: was pumping out a movie every month, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like you need a new idea every month,
Speaker 3: and that's that's why everybody starts to make series, you know,
Speaker 3: Like so, uh, you know, I was creatively burnt out,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's not what I do anyway, and
Speaker 3: people and OnlyFans they want just straight to the point,
Speaker 3: you know stuff. But you know, in uh November or whatever,
Speaker 3: I got for the first time and so long, I
Speaker 3: got inspired, you know, with Luie g. You know, when
Speaker 3: I saw the news it also happened like three blocks
Speaker 3: away from where I live, like it happened right near me,
Speaker 3: you know, and like just I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 3: it was such crazy news, you know that this like
Speaker 3: gorgeous murderer was you know, run and he's standing up
Speaker 3: for the people, and like I don't know and everything
Speaker 3: like all the funny tiktoks and all the like, and
Speaker 3: I just felt like I was in the middle of it,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, I have to make
Speaker 3: a porn about this. Like I felt this like inspiration
Speaker 3: that I hadn't felt in so long, you know, and
Speaker 3: I was like I'm gonna do it, and I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna put it on my only fans, you know.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 3: I really had a great time because it's almost like
Speaker 3: I got to make this like mini like I wrote
Speaker 3: a script. I did everything I and I it's like
Speaker 3: I didn't have to do it the old school way.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I could shoot this tomorrow and.
Speaker 2: I could shoot it on a cell phone. I don't
Speaker 2: need a lighting guy.
Speaker 3: I don't need a whole crew.
Speaker 2: I don't need this. I don't need that.
Speaker 3: Like there's no rule that, like, you know, just because
Speaker 3: there's a plot that you need to need to be
Speaker 3: shot in a certain way, you know, And I shot
Speaker 3: it in a certain way where like you know, I
Speaker 3: put the whole plot on like Instagram, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I didn't have to shoot like all this nonsense,
Speaker 3: so like you know what I mean, Like you know,
Speaker 3: and when we shot features, there was just all these
Speaker 3: not all this stuff you had to do to make
Speaker 3: it not fun or you know, things you had to do.
Speaker 2: To make it not.
Speaker 1: Make it not.
Speaker 3: Relatable or like even like be able to make sense
Speaker 3: as a piece of pop culture. It's just at a
Speaker 3: certain point, it just it's gonna look like a porn,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I really felt like
Speaker 3: I was able to just I don't know, just kind
Speaker 3: of do what I want. And I had a lot
Speaker 3: of fun.
Speaker 1: With it that being like such a like it was
Speaker 1: something that was current news that was crazy. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: torn on each side, like what was the the.
Speaker 3: Feedback on Oh, I mean, everybody loved it and now
Speaker 3: it's kind of making its rounds again because he just
Speaker 3: had like yeah, yeah, yeah, and I had and I
Speaker 3: actually and which I got to have. I haven't done
Speaker 3: anything like this in so long. I had like an
Speaker 3: actual like release party for it, even though it's just
Speaker 3: like a scene on My Only Fans. I had it
Speaker 3: at like a comedy club, and all the comedians that came,
Speaker 3: I asked them to do like bits about either healthcare
Speaker 3: or murderers or prison or like whatever, you know, like
Speaker 3: if you have any you know me, I.
Speaker 1: Think that like what platforms like OnlyFans and those things
Speaker 1: do whatever for like creators like ourselves, is like you
Speaker 1: could produce and do whatever you want on that scale
Speaker 1: or whatever and make it a thing and it doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be this yeah win award, but it is
Speaker 1: fun for you. You had fun and got your friends
Speaker 1: together that were like, you know, the community you're at
Speaker 1: a place that you like you're gathering people together. To me,
Speaker 1: like that's the like ambiance of like it should still
Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, I know that's for me is like
Speaker 1: obviously we like the sex part of what we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like to me, is I also like the fun element? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And for me, I always said, like, when I stop
Speaker 1: having fun, I'm gonna stop doing it, because well, at
Speaker 1: the point.
Speaker 3: I felt like also as a person that loved creating
Speaker 3: and writing and making movies, it really did get frustrating
Speaker 3: sometimes that it felt like no matter what I did,
Speaker 3: and you know, a lot the other directors like they'll
Speaker 3: make these giant movies and you know, and work so
Speaker 3: hard out and everybody's on step for twenty hours a
Speaker 3: day and like blah blah blah blah blah, and then
Speaker 3: like it's still at the end of the day just
Speaker 3: a porn, like nobody's watching the plot. And I felt
Speaker 3: like I put my heart and soul into so much
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and it's like nobody saw. Nobody saw
Speaker 3: the wee get. Some people did, you know, some people did,
Speaker 3: but like not, you know, and I felt like, like
Speaker 3: I look back on it now, I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 3: felt like I my movies. I was basically making tiktoks
Speaker 3: before tiktoks, you know, like if only I was making
Speaker 3: it now. But so I was able to really just
Speaker 3: shoot it like an Instagram video and then just had
Speaker 3: sex at the end, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I was able to me I kind of inspired
Speaker 1: maybe kickstart to like things like that now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I want to you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, we go through things in life, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like you obviously, you know, you just obviously
Speaker 1: said earlier about you being in a relationship for twelve years.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't together anymore. You go through levels or
Speaker 1: of like where you navigate your porn career with the relationship,
Speaker 1: but now it's like single, Joanna, Yeah, and I do.
Speaker 1: Now you're gaining more independence, freedom back and like all
Speaker 1: those things, not that you didn't have those in your relationship,
Speaker 1: but like it's different from having someone attachment to someone
Speaker 1: at all, doing it completely solely on your own, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like now.
Speaker 3: And also doing it with that the industry around me,
Speaker 3: you know, being in New York, Like I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, being in LA and you're in this you're
Speaker 3: in this kind of hamster wheel and even if and
Speaker 3: I was always known for being different, but I felt
Speaker 3: like at a certain point, it's very hard to be
Speaker 3: different in that, you know, in that world, in that scene.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even hating on anyone or knocking anyone.
Speaker 3: It's just there's a certain way of doing things.
Speaker 1: And you just do them.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I can't explain it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that that's also like the originality of like
Speaker 1: just who you are and also why you can still
Speaker 1: be successful on your platform now with or with out
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah, Like I think that's for me. I
Speaker 1: think the time of like COVID really happened for me
Speaker 1: of knowing like like who you are, not necessarily who
Speaker 1: I was, but like the level of business of what
Speaker 1: we needed to do where we thought like, oh, we
Speaker 1: have to go to this thing, we have to travel more,
Speaker 1: d D D D DA or or I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be so successful, where it was like Okay, no
Speaker 1: one can travel, no one can do anything, but we're
Speaker 1: still I at the same time was fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: be like making still the same money but doing different
Speaker 1: things and shifting, but knowing of what the value of
Speaker 1: what I had become and worked so hard for, of
Speaker 1: knowing what that helped wait for. Yeah, And so like
Speaker 1: now it's like I feel like, is what's you know
Speaker 1: fortunate for I feel like we're in the same kind
Speaker 1: of category of like where our brands kind of like
Speaker 1: flourished in those eras of where we were at. Is
Speaker 1: why they can still do those things now. And we
Speaker 1: can still do what we want to do if it's
Speaker 1: my podcast or you doing your shorts and doing those
Speaker 1: things and like all that stuff. It's which is like
Speaker 1: people still want to.
Speaker 3: Know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are intrigued of what we're doing, want to
Speaker 1: do obviously, there are always want to see us have sex. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're good at that and I love doing it too.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it is like now, why
Speaker 1: I took a hiatus and coming back was I wanted.
Speaker 3: To do it. Okay, you did start shooting again recently
Speaker 3: you did something with Dread.
Speaker 1: Right, I did something with Dread. I did a couple.
Speaker 1: I did two scenes with Dread. I did a scene
Speaker 1: for Jewels. Oh, you did too, And then for me
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like the industry changed. So
Speaker 1: for me it was like, but.
Speaker 3: I feel like on like a jewel stet is still
Speaker 3: a jewel set right.
Speaker 1: Like one thousand, And that's why I chose him doing
Speaker 1: those like things. For me, it was because it was
Speaker 1: the most closest things that it was for me, is
Speaker 1: what porn was when I porn.
Speaker 3: I mean the few times I've gone back, and you know,
Speaker 3: I know they're not one of the old well, I
Speaker 3: mean they're old older now. It's funny because I still
Speaker 3: think of them as like a newer company even though
Speaker 3: they've been around for twenty years at this point. But
Speaker 3: I went I went back and worked for Browsers a
Speaker 3: few times. I'm like, oh, it feels like like going
Speaker 3: back to the school, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like everything's you know, even though there were a few
Speaker 3: different people.
Speaker 1: It was like I feel like with Browsers Jewels, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the time I was shooting Browsers wasn't in unless
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing it at the time. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I have obviously Browsers scenes, but there's very
Speaker 1: few of them because it wasn't that big at that time.
Speaker 1: So for me with Jewels was more of a like, oh,
Speaker 1: this makes sense, and so it was.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that's where you're comfortable.
Speaker 1: And I just kind of like for me and even
Speaker 1: with that, it was a great time and I loved
Speaker 1: the scenes I did, but it just showed me how
Speaker 1: different the business had grown or changed within the five
Speaker 1: six years that I was not in it, and it
Speaker 1: was just very different navigating because for me, it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was more about ownership of like
Speaker 1: I never really owned my own scenes because I didn't
Speaker 1: have I wasn't I was working for so many of
Speaker 1: the other companies, but really know the importance of like
Speaker 1: having your own content for Liker, my website, and even
Speaker 1: when I had my website, I just didn't shoot actively
Speaker 1: for so my biggest thing was doing those things. But
Speaker 1: even doing that was like the industry changed so much
Speaker 1: as far as performers and this that I didn't know
Speaker 1: who to shoot with.
Speaker 3: Yeah know who was who?
Speaker 1: I didn't know whatever. So I don't say that I'm
Speaker 1: not shooting, but I just don't really know what that
Speaker 1: looks like either. So I do something if I want to.
Speaker 1: It's not like you know whatever. For me, it's more
Speaker 1: of like I just like that we have platforms at
Speaker 1: this point in our careers still to be able to
Speaker 1: just create and not have to show up on a set.
Speaker 1: You can do it at home. I could do it
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, I could do it whatever. But
Speaker 1: it's on it.
Speaker 3: It could be five minutes, it could be an hour.
Speaker 3: There's not like a bigger there's not like a structure
Speaker 3: that you have to stick to, you know, like you
Speaker 3: could have sex for as long as it feels natural,
Speaker 3: and if that's ten minutes, if that's five minutes. I
Speaker 3: have updates that are five minutes, and I have updates
Speaker 3: that are an hour and a half, and like everything
Speaker 3: can just kind of be you know, what feels what
Speaker 3: feels natural, or just what you know, it just feels it.
Speaker 1: Feels natural for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh oh, what's time? And that is a difficult
Speaker 3: thing being single, you know, or being a porn star
Speaker 3: out in the world. It's like I wish you could
Speaker 3: just ask a guy, like, you know what, I wish.
Speaker 2: You could just say it.
Speaker 1: Like so if you like, maybe you should do speed
Speaker 1: dating for sex workers, yeah, because like but I gets
Speaker 1: almost unfair though to this, because why I take everyone
Speaker 1: off the table because some people don't know if they
Speaker 1: don't like sex workers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like if I I could have an Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It's just it's just the truth.
Speaker 1: Like if I apologetically you're South Joanna.
Speaker 3: If I click really well with someone and the day
Speaker 3: goes really well, but they're like, it's like, what, it's
Speaker 3: not gonna work.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: What's not to you?
Speaker 3: But I will say I think that is also a
Speaker 3: good thing, like putting your putting your your brand out
Speaker 3: there and people knowing that you do porn. I will say,
Speaker 3: no one has bothered to I haven't had to deal
Speaker 3: with that because I think I think like people aren't
Speaker 3: going to try if they have. I just I don't
Speaker 3: think they're gonna show up like that. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're going to show up to the party like that.
Speaker 3: So well, so far there hasn't been that many, you know,
Speaker 3: like but so far.
Speaker 1: Nobody's said that many. But that means they showed up
Speaker 1: to a party.
Speaker 3: Yeah they were.
Speaker 1: Extredium or were they?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I mean.
Speaker 3: No, I mean not I mean only on like you know,
Speaker 3: I've seen them on only fans and stuff. No, I
Speaker 3: haven't had.
Speaker 2: That, I.
Speaker 1: Like not born. Yeah, it was like back in the
Speaker 1: day of like old school Ella is Erect whenever Kevin
Speaker 1: was still there and there is we did some scene
Speaker 1: and there was this dudent literally I remember, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they found them on craigslist.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, well I remember some of those.
Speaker 1: Like what so you to humiliate this little time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 2: Like, how would it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember some of those mopes they would have,
Speaker 3: But no, I haven't had to deal with.
Speaker 2: That, but I do.
Speaker 3: I do wish that I could. Yeah, but like.
Speaker 1: You close your eyes too tight to fake an organic No.
Speaker 2: No, you were just.
Speaker 3: Like like that's what it was like a long time,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: Was like jerking. I was like, how do you even
Speaker 1: how do you do? How do you lie? But no
Speaker 1: I knew how to do it because it was like
Speaker 1: a chapstick holder. But it was like how do you
Speaker 1: lie and be like this is any sexual Like.
Speaker 3: I don't know why you would want to show them.
Speaker 1: But you know, but I wish you kind of grows
Speaker 1: up to I get it. But sometimes for me, I'm
Speaker 1: just too mauvy, Like I'm too I'm too honest. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is.
Speaker 3: A girl, there are girls out there that don't like
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just no.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are not There's a lot of girls important too.
Speaker 3: I used to like a lot of girls.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of girls important you don't like?
Speaker 3: No, I know, I know there are there's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a little funny because when I forget erecting for
Speaker 1: like an angel. We did a lot of ghosties right
Speaker 1: for movies we did, and there would be girls that
Speaker 1: would say that they didn't swam, and I'm like what.
Speaker 2: Some of them they don't want it in their faces?
Speaker 1: Why are you important?
Speaker 2: Yea?
Speaker 1: If you can't, you should not sign up for this job,
Speaker 1: you know, and if you're allowed in, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that that's I think, like, isn't that?
Speaker 2: I mean, where do you know?
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I have run into girls where there's yeah,
Speaker 3: they don't want to like.
Speaker 1: They don't want it on their face, like whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't want it in them either, So like where
Speaker 3: is it supposed to go?
Speaker 2: Because I do that, I that I've been there before.
Speaker 3: When I'm like in a boy girl girls scene, well,
Speaker 3: I'm like, does you put all the you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'll take it put it anywhere?
Speaker 1: How many lads have you had at one time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, that was? I mean I did.
Speaker 3: I did some of those movies back in the day
Speaker 3: where like with the mopes, you know, where lose like
Speaker 3: how many?
Speaker 1: Though I don't what?
Speaker 3: I think there was one scene god it was called
Speaker 3: it was one of those vince Voyer movies. It was
Speaker 3: called the Gauntlet.
Speaker 1: It was definitely crawling. If it was vince Vino was
Speaker 1: thinking of crawling, the crawling around. It wasn't walking like
Speaker 1: back in the day, like you know, it would crawl,
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.
Speaker 3: And then I don't know. It's like I would you
Speaker 3: would walk into a room and you would fuck one guy,
Speaker 3: and you walk into another room and you fuck two guys,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, and then at the end and
Speaker 3: then all these guys would just come from.
Speaker 1: How many guys nowhere five guys.
Speaker 3: Say maybe it was like twelve.
Speaker 1: You should get a sponsor from yeah guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's twelve. I mean the biggest, like.
Speaker 3: It was eight guys. You know, I didn't eight guys
Speaker 3: or feel it was great?
Speaker 1: Good did you time?
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot more than that. So
Speaker 3: I had really.
Speaker 1: Not even know.
Speaker 3: It's just like a world.
Speaker 1: Because at those times, like I've only done one, but
Speaker 1: it's like they literally fuck you for thirty seconds. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't stop. Yeah I belave yet, No, I mean like
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a big party.
Speaker 3: I had, Like I was like stuffed the whole time.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Oh so you were.
Speaker 3: It was a good It was also yeah for like
Speaker 3: five air tight, yeah, air tight?
Speaker 1: You did it air tight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like and something in my mouth for
Speaker 3: like forty minutes straight.
Speaker 1: That a lot.
Speaker 3: Good job.
Speaker 1: Come on, Like you know, I'm I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: My thing is like I love porn, right, but I
Speaker 1: never watched porn. I never and then being in porn,
Speaker 1: everyone became my friend. So it was like I feel like, I'm, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: on your intimate like level. So I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you do. Yeah, I have you and cheer
Speaker 1: you along, but I don't know what you're doing. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm following. I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I have a question.
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna post this on Instagram the other day,
Speaker 3: but I want to and I was like, anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna ask it here because you are another old school
Speaker 3: porn person. Okay, we're both pretty old. Ye Okay, there's
Speaker 3: this term I keep seeing on Instagram and I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not throwing shade at anybody. What two people out there?
Speaker 3: What is what is a bop? Do you know?
Speaker 1: The no?
Speaker 3: Like, what is it?
Speaker 1: It's like my whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm a bop No, but it's it's something
Speaker 3: else other than that.
Speaker 2: It's like a new thing with that girl.
Speaker 3: That made like fifty million dollars or whatever.
Speaker 1: What it but and like I keep seeing it on
Speaker 1: my Instagram set partner, what this means you had a
Speaker 1: lot of sex?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I see you don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. But that's what do you know what it.
Speaker 1: Is that they know what I know? Because to me,
Speaker 1: like a bop like, that's like no.
Speaker 3: No, no, it is a new thing that came from
Speaker 3: that from from these new OnlyFans girls.
Speaker 1: And I'm not throwing hey.
Speaker 3: I mean they make way more money than me, and
Speaker 3: they look like they're having a lot of fun. They're
Speaker 3: always dancing, and I don't really know. It seems like
Speaker 3: a girl that dances a lot and makes millions and
Speaker 3: millions of dollars and is under the age of twenty
Speaker 3: five And I don't even know.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I don't know. Do they have sex? Do?
Speaker 2: Do they do have sex?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: See, this guy knows you're probably a member of one of.
Speaker 1: The what is a bop?
Speaker 2: Tell me member? Bopka? You you okay? What is it?
Speaker 3: I just want to know, I'm not I'm not like hating,
Speaker 3: right right. So Sophie, Sophie Rain is her name. You know,
Speaker 3: she's very adorable Sophie. If you're out there, you're very
Speaker 3: cute people.
Speaker 2: Does she fuck people? Okay I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know though, but she didn't brand that. She
Speaker 1: may have made that more light and awareness to it.
Speaker 1: And no, no, no.
Speaker 2: That's her thing? Is the bop house? Rouse? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's her house.
Speaker 1: That means she made millions. That means she made millions.
Speaker 3: But you know what then, but now there's other girls
Speaker 3: that aren't her, and they're like, here's what life is
Speaker 3: like as a bop or like you say that bop.
Speaker 1: Staying thing if like someone if you were contracted to
Speaker 1: Joanna Angel and you like that those are her bops,
Speaker 1: you're contract But.
Speaker 3: Like just the way like I've seen it use as
Speaker 3: a noun and an adjective and a verb, and like
Speaker 3: I just don't exactly know, like what does like does
Speaker 3: it mean?
Speaker 2: Do you have to live in that house?
Speaker 3: Because I've now seen many other girls in front of
Speaker 3: other houses.
Speaker 1: Because byself, they want to inspire to be a bop,
Speaker 1: which means a fucking hoe in the house and glorifying
Speaker 1: her pussy to be fucked by hundreds of fucking men
Speaker 1: on OnlyFans.
Speaker 3: I ask, if I don't are they having sex? Are
Speaker 3: these bops having sex? Or are they just dancing? She is, okay, No,
Speaker 3: that's hard.
Speaker 2: I'm good to know that.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to know that because I didn't get that impression.
Speaker 3: There's just seems to be a lot of dancing.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Dance, Bob, so can I call them?
Speaker 3: I do not know how to dance, but I do
Speaker 3: know how to fuck.
Speaker 2: But I'm very old. So you're the house of the book.
Speaker 1: You could be a house mom.
Speaker 3: Do they need a chaperone?
Speaker 1: Do they for a house bomb? Position? That you will
Speaker 1: teach es the knowledge they're crying at night? Millions of dollars?
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't need to teach them anything, but they
Speaker 3: might need someone.
Speaker 1: To just guidance. Not the teaching is just to tuck.
Speaker 3: Them in at night or something.
Speaker 1: Knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm look, I'm I'm not. I am not
Speaker 3: like like.
Speaker 1: Ever president of the Bops. Can she be a part
Speaker 1: of the members? I mean, I don't know you're watching,
Speaker 1: I know you're watching private talk. I just want to
Speaker 1: know I'm not even saying I want to need Joanna Angel.
Speaker 3: I just want to know what it is, Like I'm
Speaker 3: a person that's I feel like I've always known, like
Speaker 3: even if I wasn't part of something in the industry,
Speaker 3: I knew exactly what it was. And I knew, you know,
Speaker 3: like I knew what a Vivid contract star was. I
Speaker 3: never was a Vivid contract.
Speaker 1: I knew what old school terms. Yes, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know gray, and but I've now seen as gray
Speaker 1: and sketchy, right, I've now seen this money off of
Speaker 1: things that I've.
Speaker 3: Seen this word bob used in many different ways now,
Speaker 3: and I'm just I just want to know.
Speaker 1: Your interpret exactly.
Speaker 3: What in the earth is I think it is a
Speaker 3: girl that makes a lot of money and dance.
Speaker 2: What would you do you on cars?
Speaker 1: Yes, they have nice cars, and how would you audi
Speaker 1: the bop in They all have.
Speaker 3: Very expensive cars and they dance on them. Most of
Speaker 3: them dance on them, right like some half and half?
Speaker 2: Okay, so how on of them audition?
Speaker 1: But how is your audition to be a boy?
Speaker 2: I don't think you're hating.
Speaker 1: I can't you would know.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think I don't think I could.
Speaker 2: I think I'm too old. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I just wanted what is the difference between a bop
Speaker 3: and a porn star? That's all I want to know.
Speaker 3: I just would like somebody to answer that question.
Speaker 1: The question is I don't have a car though, because
Speaker 1: we're still gonna get fucked the same way as a
Speaker 1: bop and the same way as a boy star. We're
Speaker 1: all gonna get fucked the same. It's whatever you later
Speaker 1: work with.
Speaker 2: Who cares. I just I just want to I just
Speaker 2: work with.
Speaker 1: Their bop and ass boyfriends who are doing nothing. They're
Speaker 1: playing video games and just taking free pussy as they
Speaker 1: get a ride. Well most I'm just saying. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I just want to know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should just subscribe and I could see what
Speaker 3: it is, you know, being.
Speaker 1: Cheap NA subscribe to see what the bop lives about.
Speaker 1: If you want to join the bop University. I follow
Speaker 1: them on Instagram enough you need a subscribe program.
Speaker 3: They all they must have like a like. I don't
Speaker 3: know do they all go to the same car dealership.
Speaker 3: I have really nice cars, like so many of them,
Speaker 3: So I don't think I could be a BOP because I.
Speaker 2: Do not have a car.
Speaker 1: Do you think is qualities?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. Being you have to be able,
Speaker 3: you have to have a nice car, and you have
Speaker 3: to know how to dance, you have to be hot,
Speaker 3: and it seems like pretty young, like you know, it's
Speaker 3: from twenty one to twenty five, I think, I think,
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't tell.
Speaker 3: I keep I keep seeing the word used in different ways.
Speaker 3: I thought I knew what it was, but now it
Speaker 3: just seems the word has taken on age. I know,
Speaker 3: I know I am showing my age. So I just
Speaker 3: wanted to know if you know, And you don't know either,
Speaker 3: So clearly a general term.
Speaker 2: Why I know, But I think I think you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't know exactly what it is because I don't
Speaker 3: know exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Oh that fucks a lot.
Speaker 3: I think you have to be in this particular.
Speaker 1: I think that one Bob may have made that a
Speaker 1: whole situation. But Bob was around before that bop was bopping. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's bop about it. You were a bop before
Speaker 1: heard if you really were a bop? I can't about
Speaker 1: that bop and said I was Joanna before you were
Speaker 1: bopping it out of the womb bopp.
Speaker 2: I never used that word, like in my whole born career.
Speaker 3: Never have I used the word bop to describe it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you would, yeah at all.
Speaker 2: I just said, or.
Speaker 1: So, what's your bopping pleasure? What's that?
Speaker 3: I don't think you know.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, if you were a bob, what would
Speaker 1: be the thing would you be doing doing?
Speaker 3: I would I guess I would just be doing porn,
Speaker 3: because that's I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Just doing porn. They're like fucking and doing everything.
Speaker 3: They're wopping half I bopped without knowing it.
Speaker 1: You have bopped them before they called them.
Speaker 3: I lived in La I did have a car popping
Speaker 3: around and I drove a Porsche No, but it was.
Speaker 2: Like a marammad on it. I don't think that's good
Speaker 2: enough to be a bop.
Speaker 1: You need a five hundred thousand dollars car.
Speaker 2: I think I had the eighty thousand dollars porch.
Speaker 1: You're not bought material. No, I can do moving.
Speaker 3: Like this like bugattis and stuff. No, maybe not forgot
Speaker 3: like don't I don't even know enough about cars.
Speaker 2: I think they're lambos.
Speaker 1: Carless. Ramon is talking about the cars you should do
Speaker 1: no drow and yellow. Don't say yellow.
Speaker 3: No one of them has a yellow car. Okay, And
Speaker 3: I'm not once again, I'm not hating on anyone. I
Speaker 3: just don't get it. Okay, maybe you guys.
Speaker 1: What is your guilty pleasure off the clock?
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing about bobs.
Speaker 1: What's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2: And guilty pleasure?
Speaker 3: Oh, I am not guilty about any well, I'm not
Speaker 3: guilty about anything.
Speaker 1: But I have been guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2: You know, I have been.
Speaker 3: I mean I have been running marathons, which I really love.
Speaker 3: You know. That was That's that's been I that was
Speaker 3: you know. One of the reasons I wanted to leave
Speaker 3: LA is because I really did feel like I I
Speaker 3: just my whole life was just porn and I didn't
Speaker 3: have any hobbies anymore. And I did you know, you
Speaker 3: get like especially when you run your own business. I
Speaker 3: don't know, it just happened like yeah, and I you know,
Speaker 3: so I like to keep doing things that I actually
Speaker 3: I don't make money off of it. All they cost
Speaker 3: me money on the hobbies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I have been running marathons and I absolutely love it,
Speaker 3: and I think New York City is just like the
Speaker 3: most magical place to run a marathon. Like it's such
Speaker 3: a I don't know, it feels like you're having sex
Speaker 3: with the city, you know, and it is really like
Speaker 3: a city, like you can I've run everywhere in New
Speaker 3: York now, like to the edges you know of Brooklyn
Speaker 3: or Queens Like I've run the Brooklyn Marathon now twice.
Speaker 3: I've run the New York Marathon and New York Half Marathon,
Speaker 3: you know, like I've run through like I've run like
Speaker 3: all the way to Coney Island.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: And it's it's just like you can run.
Speaker 3: Anywhere in the city and it's it's so beautiful. I actually,
Speaker 3: just a few weeks ago for the first time, I
Speaker 3: ran the Disney Half Marathon and it was so much fun.
Speaker 3: You run through Disney like when it's closed. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you go there at like five in the morning, so
Speaker 3: you get to run through the park before it's open.
Speaker 3: So I have like you know, and the characters are
Speaker 3: out like waving.
Speaker 1: Jost's really your favorite character.
Speaker 3: Oh, my favorite character is Minnie Mouse. I mean, of course,
Speaker 3: like I actually like I love you.
Speaker 2: No, I would never do that.
Speaker 3: I can't I like, that's too sacred. I could never
Speaker 3: do that to many. Yeah, and you know, I think
Speaker 3: I think, I think she is on her own brand
Speaker 3: and she doesn't need Mickey weighing her down. You know,
Speaker 3: I think she she doesn't need him, like she is
Speaker 3: her own.
Speaker 1: This is your alter ego speaking any manson bring her
Speaker 1: down making I'm sorry, but get the fuck out the
Speaker 1: way Minnie is going.
Speaker 3: When I was younger, I remember, like, you know, when
Speaker 3: my parents took me to Disney. You know they have
Speaker 3: those autograph books. I remember, like, you know, I got
Speaker 3: all the characters to like sign the autograph book, but
Speaker 3: Minnie Mouse was missing, and I told my parents. I
Speaker 3: remember telling my mom like, I'm not leaving until we
Speaker 3: find Minnie, and and like my parents like they wanted
Speaker 3: to leave, you know, and then they wound up buying
Speaker 3: like like extending the truth extra day.
Speaker 2: On the park. My dad was like, where the fuck
Speaker 2: is she?
Speaker 3: We have we found her?
Speaker 2: Was it like the beginning end of it was everything
Speaker 2: I wanted it with At.
Speaker 1: The end of the day, yeah, it was the end
Speaker 1: of the day. They're like, fucking god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, They're like, what the hell? You know,
Speaker 3: So she's she's special. You know, she's like, she's not
Speaker 3: it's hard.
Speaker 1: To have special place in Joanna Angels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's many.
Speaker 3: You know, she's the matriarch of the Disney family and
Speaker 3: non sexual. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I will say after
Speaker 3: going on a date and you know whatever, even though
Speaker 3: he was really nice. So I'm bringing it back to
Speaker 3: the beginning. I just want to put it out there.
Speaker 3: So I changed my dating profile app. I now put
Speaker 3: it to only women.
Speaker 2: So ladies, and look, as you can see, I cut
Speaker 2: my nails.
Speaker 3: I have the TikTok lesbian nails, and I am available.
Speaker 1: TikTok lesbian nails.
Speaker 2: Try you hit on her house.
Speaker 3: Girls, totally date a woman I've married. I would totally
Speaker 3: marry a woman.
Speaker 2: I just it's never happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's never.
Speaker 3: Really yeah yeah, and like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know you think it's like, but is
Speaker 1: it all because you think that you had you too,
Speaker 1: and maybe you didn't know that you really liked as
Speaker 1: much as you did.
Speaker 2: No, No, I think it's just I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't think I was. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just don't think I ever.
Speaker 2: Or maybe every girl I've ever.
Speaker 3: Hooked up with either I guess on camera off camera,
Speaker 3: is you know like guys and girls. I don't think
Speaker 3: i've you know what I mean and like and mostly dates,
Speaker 3: but you guess I haven't had you with so many
Speaker 3: men lesbians.
Speaker 1: I do like men, so I think.
Speaker 2: That do I kind of hate men?
Speaker 1: But you know right now, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Like having sex with men. I do.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, is like, so if you
Speaker 1: take all of what you're saying based off the women,
Speaker 1: and right, I think that it's time and place. So
Speaker 1: it's like, if you're open to being sexually vibrant to
Speaker 1: a woman, not just fucking them, be a pleasure.
Speaker 3: I actually have never I've never like, yeah, I've fucked obviously.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of girls you had you, Oh
Speaker 3: you would have.
Speaker 1: I put my ass in a window that I got stuck,
Speaker 1: but I got out.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, you never like gone on a
Speaker 3: date with a girl. You know, it's always been like
Speaker 3: another girl. And it's showing that when I was in college,
Speaker 3: there were like girls I hooked up with like a
Speaker 3: party or like you know whatever. Yeah right, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I've never like gone on a date with a woman.
Speaker 2: But you want to yeah, I want to. I really do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a great time. I think that at
Speaker 1: this point it's like also too, it's like you you've
Speaker 1: been married, yeah, and in serious relationships.
Speaker 3: And now I've been in these things that I didn't know.
Speaker 3: It's very, very a big thing right now I have
Speaker 3: to experience it. I think I still am right now.
Speaker 3: A situationship. It really is not.
Speaker 1: It's not fun you are.
Speaker 3: I think I am in one actually right now, hopefully
Speaker 3: it's not. I'm not in it anymore when this episode
Speaker 3: comes out. It's really it's really.
Speaker 1: The date person that you are someone else. She said,
Speaker 1: you said you want a date, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully by this time I haven't ghosted it. I talked
Speaker 1: to him, soady, this is someone else. Maybe she's just
Speaker 1: actually ghosting me. Bought the stage. What situationship or do
Speaker 1: you think you're in it?
Speaker 3: I am in one?
Speaker 1: You know. I can't believe was making this situation. You
Speaker 1: were him?
Speaker 3: Oh? Him, so you were a.
Speaker 1: Booty call and then you just cop feelings.
Speaker 3: No, no, I think another thing I've learned, in addition
Speaker 3: to time of learning what a bop is on Instagram
Speaker 3: A situation relationship is particularly when somebody goes after you,
Speaker 3: like you know, and then you're like, okay, fine, love
Speaker 3: a love bomber. And then and then you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: you like me, yes, I'll give you a chance, right,
Speaker 3: But they but they really like it was their idea.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just over here, so it's their idea,
Speaker 3: and they say every you know, and then finally you're like, okay, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm into this. Let's let's do it, and
Speaker 3: then nothing else and then oh yeah, and you're just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't even know if I like this
Speaker 3: guy as much, but you know he.
Speaker 2: Likes me so much. This will probably be fun. You
Speaker 2: know that somebody is so obsessed with me, And then
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: These are three weeks later, rhin, you know, but the
Speaker 3: sex can be so good it's really hard to and
Speaker 3: then you don't even know, and then you're.
Speaker 2: Like, well, what happened? I this was your idea, I'm.
Speaker 1: Here is what happened.
Speaker 2: You need to ha.
Speaker 3: In love, oh my god, everywhere, and love fall in
Speaker 3: love with everybody.
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand you. You're just you want to be loved,
Speaker 1: so therefore you love everybody.
Speaker 2: You know what I also do love to love no.
Speaker 1: And I understand that, but it's also like people because
Speaker 1: I'm also like I always say this, like people like
Speaker 1: I'm such a hard exterior and whatever, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah you are. Nobody could for me.
Speaker 1: But they have. And I'm a delicate flower too when
Speaker 1: I'm in my intimate moments and I'm having a man
Speaker 1: being in my face and being like things because I am,
Speaker 1: and like I've left those walls downs for whatever reasons,
Speaker 1: little whatever, peaking whatever. You go through those things and
Speaker 1: like and I and I go through the field things
Speaker 1: sinks too, but it's like we also to have to
Speaker 1: be cognizant of like we're at this big age in
Speaker 1: our life that if I can't see a gas lighter
Speaker 1: gaslighting me and even just being real with ourselves, like
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Because sex is sex
Speaker 1: and sex is gonna be great. But I can go
Speaker 1: make money off porn and I know, but the emotion
Speaker 1: take that out of it. And then the thing is
Speaker 1: is like, but take that out to the for the
Speaker 1: wrong people. The right people deserve it and you deserve
Speaker 1: love and those things too. So that's like that's the
Speaker 1: thing is too. It's like there's an after love of
Speaker 1: those things, and you've been married and you've been in
Speaker 1: those situations, but it's like you can't sell yourself short
Speaker 1: because the instant gratification.
Speaker 3: I know, oh, stop stopping so logical.
Speaker 1: Doctor texas a PhD. But a bitch, no, something is crazy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It is weird when I don't know, you know, they
Speaker 3: get worse.
Speaker 1: But everyone can. I tell you this right now, and
Speaker 1: this it's like not right, but no, but this is
Speaker 1: what it is. Like it's because you need the validation
Speaker 1: from a human being to touch you in a loving
Speaker 1: way other than a sexual way.
Speaker 2: You need to be.
Speaker 1: Hugged, you need to be coddled. You need to be
Speaker 1: like hugged and like like snuggled. And that's not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. You're human. It's human interaction. And but that's
Speaker 1: what you chase the like I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it's oxytocin or whatevers or whatever, but you're chasing that
Speaker 1: high of what that next thing is is because we
Speaker 1: know what the sex you fork fright is, but we
Speaker 1: want that other I think it's serotonin of like what
Speaker 1: that means of like whatever, But it's like you want
Speaker 1: that comfortability of that safety and that's what we're earning,
Speaker 1: and that because we don't really get that no, because
Speaker 1: we know sexually what we can't use our things exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like, but you want you earn for those things,
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, that's a human one thousand. But
Speaker 1: the thing is like, but own that, ye like, but
Speaker 1: be in that situationship and know that, but don't take
Speaker 1: it for granted. Know that and take that and you
Speaker 1: can leave it when they want to. Don't let them
Speaker 1: have ownership of that from you. For me is like
Speaker 1: I control the situation. I can have situationships now, but
Speaker 1: I know that I'm respected, that I'm having a good
Speaker 1: time and I'm having a good thing on my own terms,
Speaker 1: and then when it doesn't become that way and it
Speaker 1: feels icky or whatever, I can remove myself because that,
Speaker 1: to me is then why to be in a relationship,
Speaker 1: because that's a relationship. The situationship is that it's like
Speaker 1: you take the emotions out of it.
Speaker 3: Clearly you are more mentally staple than me.
Speaker 1: Hey, we all need friends that are here to be.
Speaker 2: I needed to do that.
Speaker 1: You are a woman, but we all give things, you know,
Speaker 1: certain things. Whatever is why I wanted to sit down
Speaker 1: with you as well as like I look up to
Speaker 1: you for a lot of things and like how you've
Speaker 1: been so still current in the business and still being whatever.
Speaker 1: I know that there are struggles of highs and lows
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you're still doing it. You go to
Speaker 1: a VM, people are recognizing you. You have like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You're doing your things.
Speaker 3: You know, I really, you know, done my best to
Speaker 3: It's just been a journey, you know, like being around.
Speaker 2: Joanna.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for instilling some confidence in me.
Speaker 3: It has been a very The last few months of
Speaker 3: my life has been so strange. It's like I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm living in a dream. I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: at Like you know when you watch a series and
Speaker 3: there's that one season that everybody's like, oh that season,
Speaker 3: like nothing happened, but it was very important because because
Speaker 3: it led up to the next season. I'm like in
Speaker 3: the in the season where not much is happening. Thing
Speaker 3: is like the next season, but I'm putting a lot
Speaker 3: of things in order for the next season to happen.
Speaker 1: And look, I'm proud of you. You show up every
Speaker 1: time you you reach out, you do all the things,
Speaker 1: and that's all that we can ask you and only
Speaker 1: you will know what your season, your reason and all
Speaker 1: things are. But you're doing it. You don't need a relationship,
Speaker 1: you don't need anybody else. As you started this, spy,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Need to be a bop.
Speaker 1: No, you are the bop before the bop happened. But
Speaker 1: I means like you did this without anybody. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and you're going to continue to leave your legacy by
Speaker 1: yourself and not that means that you're not going to
Speaker 1: be in a partnership with somebody. But you don't need
Speaker 1: anybody to flourish what that is like you even still
Speaker 1: you're a creative person. You're a sexual, amazing female that
Speaker 1: like you're very empowering to other people like you just
Speaker 1: live in your truth and.
Speaker 3: That's all that you need, such a strong force to
Speaker 3: be reckoned with.
Speaker 2: You are no one.
Speaker 3: No one could fuck with you, no one would. You
Speaker 3: would never be in some situationship.
Speaker 1: I have been in situationships. Is the thing is like
Speaker 1: we think that even the strongest I always I've been
Speaker 1: in those things series because everyone wants to love love
Speaker 1: and that's not a bad thing, is like, but it's
Speaker 1: also determining and knowing like the boundaries of what your
Speaker 1: threshold is.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, you just think.
Speaker 1: I just you don't know the world.
Speaker 3: I deserve the world that you're.
Speaker 1: Right, you better let them know. Private talk. Yeah, Miss
Speaker 1: Joanna Angel, is there any question you would like to ask?
Speaker 1: Miss Texas?
Speaker 3: Uh? What has been your favorite place to eat since
Speaker 3: you've moved out here?
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many great food places in New
Speaker 1: York that you could, like literally for a lifetime eat
Speaker 1: a different places, It's true, and never be of the
Speaker 1: same place. But I've had a lot of great food.
Speaker 1: It's hard to pick just one. I mean, I've i
Speaker 1: my freaking ones that I like. I like, say less,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that I like crave. There are certain
Speaker 1: times that if.
Speaker 3: They have that like Cheeto something, it's like cheat, don't
Speaker 3: even know what the Cheeto thing is.
Speaker 2: There's like thing, what is it they've.
Speaker 3: They've got that is like that's very good, That's very good.
Speaker 3: At Stoner Stoner Food.
Speaker 1: I've definitely weed but like high and I definitely want
Speaker 1: to try that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I started going to a place that was
Speaker 1: called fly Fish that was okay, great, like just amazing
Speaker 1: seafood food place whatever, and then I also, oddly enough,
Speaker 1: the place I probably go the most is Pergola, but
Speaker 1: people just know them as a nightlife. But their food
Speaker 1: is amazing. I didn't know that it was a restaurant
Speaker 1: so good. It's like a fusion of Mediterranean Persian type
Speaker 1: of thing, but everything is delicious. So well, next time
Speaker 1: you go, last question, let me know that one.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's all.
Speaker 3: That's no further questions. You honor.
Speaker 1: Dirty question before we get out of a dirty question. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the naughtiest thing that you have done? Not on camera?
Speaker 3: Okay, what is the naughty thing I've done a lot
Speaker 3: of naughty things lately?
Speaker 1: Yeah lately. I like that time stamp at Bitch if
Speaker 1: I was a bop. I mean, so when I don't
Speaker 1: be playing like you're a fucking vision, you're not.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean there was what this was a long
Speaker 3: time ago, sure like a long time. It wasn't long time. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 3: it wasn't on camera. And a guy took me on
Speaker 3: a date. It was like a Valentine's date date, okay,
Speaker 3: and he happened to take me. No, there's you know,
Speaker 3: there was no free I know this was before that
Speaker 3: you know, this is before this was before that star
Speaker 3: was born, before that yeah.
Speaker 2: Before that book was opened.
Speaker 3: And he yeah, So he took me on a date
Speaker 3: to this bar, and it just so happened at that bar.
Speaker 3: The bartender of that bar was a guy that I
Speaker 3: was like kind of seeing another, a guy who I
Speaker 3: was in a situationship with before that word was invented, karma. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was like, you know, and we were in
Speaker 3: that time in the situationship where like the sex was
Speaker 3: so good and everything else was terrible, you know, it
Speaker 3: was so toxic, but with really good sex, you know,
Speaker 3: and and uh yeah, and I just we kept looking
Speaker 3: at each other and like he was the bartender, he
Speaker 3: wasn't even the waiter, you know. So I'm on my
Speaker 3: date and the other guy he's really nice, you know,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, I just like at some point,
Speaker 3: I don't even know this like force like just I
Speaker 3: was like I have to go to the bathroom, and
Speaker 3: I didn't really have to go to I fucked him
Speaker 3: in the bathroom during the date. And then I don't
Speaker 3: even know how it happened, you know, he like fed
Speaker 3: me over the sink and you called me a whore.
Speaker 2: And I was so cool. No, that was before.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to do that. Yeah. But and
Speaker 3: then and then I felt bad, you know, so I
Speaker 3: did go home.
Speaker 2: Well I did feel bad. I mean it wasn't very nice.
Speaker 3: So I I did. I did go home with the
Speaker 3: with the date, and I did fuck him. I did
Speaker 3: suck him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I'm laying there after we fucking, He's like, oh, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I can't wait to make you breakfast in
Speaker 3: the morning, and like whatever. And then I see like
Speaker 3: on my phone, you know. And this was when like
Speaker 3: this was like when texts were like barely you know,
Speaker 3: it was there's like two letters, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I was like, I was like, oh, I
Speaker 3: have to get up really early in the morning.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go, you know, and like.
Speaker 3: This is way before uber like you know, he's like,
Speaker 3: how are you You had a.
Speaker 1: Right outside from the other date. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like gonna go.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, yeah, and then I went to the
Speaker 3: other back to the other guys and then he no,
Speaker 3: he didn't. I don't remember what.
Speaker 1: I him.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he did. We did not have
Speaker 3: that relationship really threw me down, and I will say,
Speaker 3: Karma caught me.
Speaker 2: I remember this guy.
Speaker 3: Well, he was also young and a fucking bartender who
Speaker 3: you know whatever, who lived I don't know, whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: He had a dog.
Speaker 3: And clearly at the time I was like, what a
Speaker 3: bad dog, But I think he was really the bad owner.
Speaker 3: Looking back on it now, you know, you were probably the.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 2: So he had this dog, and.
Speaker 3: So like, you know, we fucked like all night or whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, and like, you know, his dog in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night. No, this is not going where
Speaker 3: you think it's going. His dog ate my shoe. But
Speaker 3: this wasn't New York. You know. This was in New
Speaker 3: York and this way before Uber and this was in Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: you know, when Brooklyn was not so cool. So the
Speaker 3: dog ate like my shoe. There was like it was
Speaker 3: like a like this much of the shoe left, you know,
Speaker 3: there was like every one shoe and it was snowy
Speaker 3: and icy outside, and of course in the morning, this
Speaker 3: guy was not going to make me breakfast. He's like
Speaker 3: basically it was like get the fuck out, you know, like,
Speaker 3: you know, how get Marlin. I had walked with my.
Speaker 2: One shoe in the ice to the train.
Speaker 3: Like seven blocks in Brooklyn when it was not like
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn it is today.
Speaker 2: It was break the hood. You know, did you get hidden?
Speaker 1: What did you hit on?
Speaker 3: I don't remember getting hit on at that point in time,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I went on the train and I was like,
Speaker 3: and you know, I deserved it.
Speaker 1: It was a walk of shame. It was a hobble.
Speaker 2: She maybe this is why it will never be.
Speaker 1: A bop because bobs don't hobble to a train.
Speaker 2: They are going to help them.
Speaker 1: They're never getting their pinpoint the apple, and they will know.
Speaker 3: They will know that would never happen to them. They
Speaker 3: would they would have a ride.
Speaker 2: I don't think bobs take the tray, No, they don't.
Speaker 1: With all of that being said, what is your biggest
Speaker 1: pet peeve sexually?
Speaker 2: My biggest pet peeve sexually?
Speaker 3: I mean moments pet peeve.
Speaker 1: But like that's okay, given, that's a given, That.
Speaker 3: Is a given. Yeah, okay. I don't like it when
Speaker 3: guys try to be dominant that aren't. So they took
Speaker 3: I actually you know, yeah, And it's like this thing
Speaker 3: where it's like I then I have to go to
Speaker 3: the space. It's like should I pretend I'm actually like, oh, daddy,
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's like, just don't try, like unless
Speaker 3: we actually have a dynamic where you are like, you know,
Speaker 3: if you're dominating me, you know, and it's pretty hard
Speaker 3: to dominate me, but that you guys can.
Speaker 1: Do a deserving word you can't be.
Speaker 2: And then I don't want to ruin the moment.
Speaker 3: Like I've had this happen where it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: and I feel like the guy is like it's like, oh, Joanna,
Speaker 3: she likes rough sex, so let me try to be
Speaker 3: rough and it's like so awkward, and clearly they don't,
Speaker 3: you know, And then I have and then I know
Speaker 3: if I call attention to that, it's going to be
Speaker 3: even more awkward, so I have to kind of go
Speaker 3: along with it, like oh no, like I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like just you know what, I guess that's you're
Speaker 1: having a horrible sex.
Speaker 2: And I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not. That's like, you know, that was a guy
Speaker 3: and we didn't I didn't fuck him again. But but
Speaker 3: like I guess, when somebody's not being themselves in bed
Speaker 3: in general, it's just you have to, yeah, just be
Speaker 3: who you are, you know, Yeah, exactly, just just be
Speaker 3: who you are in bed. You know, it's not nobody wants.
Speaker 3: You don't like it when a girl fakes it, you know.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't like it when anybody fakes it.
Speaker 3: You know. Just just be you, you know, and just
Speaker 3: just let it flow. Yeah,