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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabrielle with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday following Father's Day. I hope you had

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<v Speaker 1>a great day. Hope you had a great weekend, especially

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<v Speaker 1>you single moms out there. People forget about the single

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<v Speaker 1>moms on Father's Day, but I had one myself, a

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<v Speaker 1>single mom, so anyhow, I hope you had a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a chance to get with family because my

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful daughter's birthday was yesterday as well, so we had

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<v Speaker 1>a gathering on Saturday of the family, the granddaughters. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a good time, and of course being Father's Day weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a chance to watch a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf. I don't sit through the entire tournament. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a golf fan when it comes to the majors, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch every stroke of every tournament. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did watch JJ spawn when the US opened at Oakmont

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<v Speaker 1>Up in Pennsylvania. Typical US Open course, really difficult, And

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<v Speaker 1>I heard an interview with Steve Sands at a golf

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<v Speaker 1>channel prior to the tournament where he said that the

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<v Speaker 1>greens for the tournament probably weren't as difficul as they

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<v Speaker 1>are on a given week but they still look pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tough to me. And you had in the rain, which

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<v Speaker 1>became pouring rain at one point, So what a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>and what a great finish by JJ spawn a huge

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<v Speaker 1>birdie putt. He only needed a two putt, but he

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<v Speaker 1>drained one and I think was sixty four and a

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<v Speaker 1>half sixty four, Yeah, sixty four and a half feet

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<v Speaker 1>that rolled in there, And it was great. It was

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<v Speaker 1>great TV, It was great drama. Then we come to

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<v Speaker 1>find out that this gentleman had been up at three

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<v Speaker 1>am because he had to go to the pharmacy to

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<v Speaker 1>the store to get something for his daughter who had

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<v Speaker 1>been throwing up. So he had a sick little girl

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<v Speaker 1>and still came back and shook it all out of

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<v Speaker 1>his head and rally. He wasn't the leader going into

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<v Speaker 1>the last round, but he won the US Open, So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that was fun. Coming up tonight, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Jim Deopolis, who's a longtime friend and

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<v Speaker 1>he's been on the show before, but now he is

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<v Speaker 1>an inductee into the Kentucky Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>so he will go in alongside former Wildcat Danny Trevathan

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<v Speaker 1>among others. Coming up at the end of this month.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jim is a friend from way back when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a grad student at UK. I was a referee,

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<v Speaker 1>umpire official in the Inner Murals program and Jim was

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<v Speaker 1>my boss. He did our scheduling and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And from there he went on to be a high

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<v Speaker 1>school referee, a college ref in the OVC, at the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and the National Football League, and even worked a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. So now going into the Kentucky Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. And he's always been at these events.

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<v Speaker 1>And I talked to somebody last year, so why isn't

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Dappolis in the next thing? You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying because I said anything, but he certainly deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Going in going to talk to John Hale of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arow Leader about UK football, if it's merrow moving, how

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting this team together these days, and we'll also

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<v Speaker 1>talk football and UK women's basketball with Christy Thomas. Shankers

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<v Speaker 1>are UK Radio Network pregame coverage along with Jeremy Jarman

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<v Speaker 1>and Logan Stenberg. Season is right on top of it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like it, but trust me, it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets the summer gets shorter every year. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>know this coming up next, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the College World Series. I know the Wildcats are not

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<v Speaker 1>in it, although the state of Kentucky well represented with

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<v Speaker 1>two teams in Omaha this year, Murray State and the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Louisville. And I watched a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few days, and yesterday marked a great

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary for UK baseball. We're going to relive that coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to tell you, it's like anything when

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<v Speaker 1>you get a chance to go to an event like

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<v Speaker 1>the College World Series. Many of you have been to

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<v Speaker 1>NC tournaments, to final fours, bowl games. They're fun and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go back. And yeah, I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working these events, but it's still fun, and especially if

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<v Speaker 1>it's for the first time, like the College World Series

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<v Speaker 1>was for all of us last year. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that, we'll talk about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>have gone on already in Omaha. But it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great sporting events and I hope for all of

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<v Speaker 1>our sakes, the program, the coach, the players, the fans

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<v Speaker 1>of media, we get a chance to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Say with us here on the Big bluon sider on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the big bluon Sider

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in just a few minutes. Jim Deopolis, former

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<v Speaker 1>NFL referee. He's a UK grad. When I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in grad school and he ran the officials

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<v Speaker 1>for the intermural program. So I worked for Jim. How

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<v Speaker 1>little did I know he would go on to work

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl as an NFL referee. He is going

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<v Speaker 1>into the Kentucky Pro Football Hall of Fame coming up

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the month. So we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the ref in just a few minutes. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk, of course about the College World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you had a great Father's Day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And Darren Hendrick posted are the radio voice of the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball Wildcats, posted on social media reminding us that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, June fifteenth, a year ago, was the

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<v Speaker 1>day Kentucky pulled off one of the great comebacks of

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<v Speaker 1>last year's College World Series. Got a home run in

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<v Speaker 1>the not bottom of the ninth inning and then a

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<v Speaker 1>home run in the bottom of the tenth inning by

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Daily to cap that come from behind when against

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina State. Here's a swinging of dribe today left

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<v Speaker 1>Becos Nixon looking up.

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<v Speaker 2>Daily wadens Daily Wins It Daily Wins It.

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky defeats at C State five to four on a

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<v Speaker 3>walk off home run five Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>Daily biggest home run in the history of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also was a game that included a two

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<v Speaker 1>run homer by Nolan McCarthy, And I was watching some

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<v Speaker 1>highlights somebody put up on social media as well from

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<v Speaker 1>that game, and I had forgotten forgive me. But Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>had an outfielder named Ty Krittenberger last year. He had

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<v Speaker 1>transferred in from Western Kentucky, played some early in the

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<v Speaker 1>year and then kind of lost the starting job to

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan McCarthy, became a pinch hitter, defensive specialist, and man

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<v Speaker 1>they needed him because he made a huge catch, a diving,

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<v Speaker 1>tumbling catch late in the game in centerfield to help

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<v Speaker 1>preserve that win. And because he didn't get to play

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, we didn't have much chance to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Krittenberger's background in the game notes. There were two Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>players last year on the roster who had relatives grandfathers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one was a great grandfather. But Ty's grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was a well known general in the United States Army

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<v Speaker 1>and was critical in World War Two, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and re read his history and at

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<v Speaker 1>one point General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the supreme Allied Commander

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<v Speaker 1>for the impending Allied invasion of Normandy in nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>selected Krittenberger, the UK centerfielder's grandfather, as one of three

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<v Speaker 1>core commanders for the invasion. But Lieutenant General Omar Bradley,

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<v Speaker 1>who was selected later as the first Army commander by

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<v Speaker 1>IKE for the D Day invasion, replaced all three of

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<v Speaker 1>the core commanders. Looking for it says here different differing

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<v Speaker 1>temperaments and commanders who had more combat experience, but still

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<v Speaker 1>Krittenberger if you just google him, go to wiki. He

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<v Speaker 1>had an incredible career and again one of his offspring

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<v Speaker 1>went on to play centerfield for the Wildcats, a team

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<v Speaker 1>that played in the College World Series. Yesterday's games were crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They usually are crazy, good, crazy, weird. You've got Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>down to Arizona three to one going into the late innings.

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<v Speaker 1>They make it three to two, and then they explode

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<v Speaker 1>for six runs in the eighth inning to the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>and they beat Arizona eight to three. Arizona started that

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<v Speaker 1>inning with an error routine ground ball to short and

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<v Speaker 1>they brought in their great relievers and Louisville just started

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the ball. An Arizona outfielder makes a mistake with

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<v Speaker 1>nobody out, and a Louisville kid hits a sinking line drive.

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<v Speaker 1>He tries to make a circus catch and misses it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes and stead as a single for a triple,

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<v Speaker 1>which came back to haunt Arizona. Obviously, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>overthrow at first base. The catcher backs it up, snags

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball, tries to throw it back towards second base.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball popped out of his hand and landed behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kid didn't even know it. So meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville base runners are circling the bag and this kid

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<v Speaker 1>finally realizes they yell at him and the ball is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting behind you. It's not in the middle of the infit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just bizarre. But what U of l fans

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<v Speaker 1>watching at home might remember is during the break between

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<v Speaker 1>the six and seventh innings, ESPN's cameras caught Louisville coach

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<v Speaker 1>of Dan McDonald getting into his team. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>if if you like coaches that yell at players, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to like this. It went on for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's about fifteen seconds of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hardly you get a bath ball in, right, you better

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<v Speaker 3>showing out when the ball is going in, Fayed, We're

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<v Speaker 3>not waiting coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I bring this up because I like Dan McDonald. I

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<v Speaker 1>know UK fans are never going to cheer for U

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<v Speaker 1>L but I got to tell you this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good guy. He's a heck of a coach. But Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn and I talked to opposing coaches before games whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we do broadcasts, and it's always just a real joy

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him. He is a real gentleman. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a great coach, and he and Doug are very close.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug goes and speaks to the Louisville team every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then, you know, not necessarily just as an FCA speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a guy a former big leaguer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just so he see. There's the same thing with UK players.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really enjoy always talking to Damn McDonald. I

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<v Speaker 1>respect what he's done at Louisville, and yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, don't think for a mint and

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Manjeones doesn't do that. I've never seen him do

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<v Speaker 1>it in the middle of a game. I'm sure he has.

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<v Speaker 1>He generally waits till the game's over before he really

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<v Speaker 1>gets into his team. But it was just interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>it happened on this stage. You know, the College World

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<v Speaker 1>Series National TV is teamed down, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a really interesting moment, and, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a bizarre game as Louisville comes back still in the

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<v Speaker 1>loser's bracket and has to fight its way out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals next play Oregon State tomorrow at two o'clock. Today's games,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one going on right now because of course we

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<v Speaker 1>pre record. My apologies, I cannot tell you what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now between Arkansas and Murray State, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you this. One of the great moments came

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<v Speaker 1>after Murray State's loss to UCLA. Racers fell behind, made

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<v Speaker 1>it a game late, they fall six to four on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the interview room after a young man named

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<v Speaker 1>Dustin Mercer, who is a right fielder, and Murray's five

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<v Speaker 1>to four win over Kentucky back in March, Mercer had

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<v Speaker 1>an RBI single, but he was asked by a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>the podium behind the mix with a smile on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>and was always seemed to be smiling even though his

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, you keep smiling.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, obviously the results not what you wanted, but

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously it's baseball heaven here. I was talking

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<v Speaker 5>whether I'm going to the big leagues or I'm done

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<v Speaker 5>playing in two weeks. They just wanted to talk to me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's a really awesome experience. So I

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<v Speaker 5>know he lost and that's things he really does, but

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<v Speaker 5>here to watch us, and I mean that's super cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Skirk's son, he just loves watching us playball

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<v Speaker 5>and they look up to us, And yeah, about the smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was great, And I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't saying I were just glad to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are, but that's not what they want. They

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<v Speaker 1>And what great for me watching the College World Series

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<v Speaker 1>And I've watched it more this year than I ever have,

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<v Speaker 1>excluding last year when I was there, because I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that makes much sense to you,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that affects you as you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching nca Tournament games. If you've ever been to an

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you're watching UK play and you couldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>that year, you know what it feels like to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And ESPN does a great job at the College World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>more so than with Pro Ball, showing the crowd, showing

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<v Speaker 1>the color shots, showing kids, exterior shots of the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a different vibe than it is at a

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<v Speaker 1>pro game. And I've never covered a World series, a

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<v Speaker 1>pro World Series, but Omaha, Charles Schwab Stadium to call

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<v Speaker 1>it the Chuck. It's just a really great place and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great event. And I'm listening to this kid

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<v Speaker 1>I was at this time last year, and in fact

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago yesterday, I was sitting in there listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kentucky kids talk about Mitchell Daily's home run,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the ninth. I was there when Nick

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<v Speaker 1>a the SEC, but it's just kind of cool if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been there, and in the time we were all

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<v Speaker 1>of that place. So now watching it, yeah, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we were all back there covering the game, watching Kentucky play.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe next year. SEC still has two teams, one

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<v Speaker 1>in the winner's bracket, one in the loser's bracket. LSU

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<v Speaker 1>beat Arkansas on Saturday, so that's why Arkansas playing Murray

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<v Speaker 1>State in the loser's bracket. Tonight UCLA LSU at seven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the winner's bracket, and again tomorrow, Oregon State

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday at two o'clock. Coastal has won twenty five straight games.

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<v Speaker 1>won it back in twenty thirteen, So those guys play

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday afternoon. Up next, Jim Dappolis, UK grad and

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<v Speaker 1>retired NFL referee and now a Kentucky Pro Football Hall

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy I used to actually work for back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day when I officiated games at UK and

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Dappolis went on too much, Bigger and better things

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<v Speaker 1>went on to work high school, college and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL on the field for eleven years, as an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL referee supervisor for twelve and now is going in

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kentucky NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame along

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<v Speaker 1>with four other notables. Ref. I couldn't be happier. Congratulations, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really an awful, great experience. What I'm getting right here,

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<v Speaker 3>as we've discussed, this is something that it's just so

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<v Speaker 3>humbling to me to be inclusied with these individuals. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you every year. We talk quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone, but I always see you at this event,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and yeah, it's such a great So many

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<v Speaker 1>great people show up. If you were from Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 1>played in the NFL, or you know, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>the league, it's great. And you got a heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a class going in. Danny Trevathan, Michael Bush, Walt Yurowski,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam Gruneisen who played at sant X back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day and played pro football. You're keeping pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good company there, ref.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Jick when when I look at those guys

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm thinking, God, how am I in a group

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<v Speaker 3>of them? You know they're going to be showing highlight

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<v Speaker 3>films of you know, Danny making tackles and Michael Bush

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<v Speaker 3>running with a ball, and you know what am I

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing? You know, I haven't thrown a

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<v Speaker 3>football or you know, they probably showed me getting knocked

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<v Speaker 3>down or given a signal for something. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it is just so so humbling to be included with

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<v Speaker 3>right and be included with them is just a it's

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<v Speaker 3>so exciting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever asked you this. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>you become an official in the first place?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was kind of interesting. You know, we were

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<v Speaker 3>topfully for the same reason you did. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>were students at the university, uh, trying to pick up

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of extra cash. I I just did

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity and pick up some extra cash when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a graduate student at UK, and you know, I set

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<v Speaker 3>some goals. I listened to Tommy Bell gave a talk

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<v Speaker 3>one time through the Central Kentucky Football Officials Association, and

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<v Speaker 3>I set a goal to get in the NFL. That

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<v Speaker 3>I ever think I was going to get here, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, I was hoping that I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I was hoping i'd work a championship game, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of those games up at Saint x Or, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the high school championship games. But I got

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<v Speaker 3>some breaks, and then in the Ohio Valley Conference, I

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<v Speaker 3>kept pursuing it. I really wanted to do basketball. I

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to get in the NBA at basketball, but

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<v Speaker 3>my breaks came in football, so it gave me an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>I got some great opportunities, so hey, I pursued it

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<v Speaker 1>So did you start with a khsaai zoom?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Oh yeah, absolutely Well even before that, I was

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<v Speaker 3>working for the IBM club. An individual named Pete Owens

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<v Speaker 3>gave me an opportunity to officiate some you know, flag

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<v Speaker 3>were probably the toughest games I've ever infistiated with those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>But you know I did. I started with a K say,

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<v Speaker 3>working junior high school games around the state. Go over

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<v Speaker 3>to Jetsamane County and work, you know, five games on

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<v Speaker 3>of time. As you remember when you were doing your

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<v Speaker 3>fat you know, you get to get there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a great way to get some additional income.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to have to sack groceries as at

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<v Speaker 3>Kroger's on weekend, So just gave me an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the thing people don't understand about KJSA officials

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<v Speaker 1>to this days are not paid nearly enough. And you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much traveling you mentioned going over

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<v Speaker 1>to Jessmon County, but I've talked to guys in election

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<v Speaker 1>and who have had it. On a Friday afternoon, take

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you put a lot of miles

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you let me tell you I did games up

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<v Speaker 3>in Whiteburg, get Lynch, and you know, I think one

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<v Speaker 3>day we had a game in Lynch and they had

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<v Speaker 3>a de snake the locker room before we went in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had some great stories of my opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>worked there. You know, I worked with Bobby Flynn, who

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<v Speaker 3>together with Carl Elevation, John Clark, and Gary Paxson, and

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<v Speaker 3>thankful that I had that opportunity. But I started doing

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<v Speaker 3>it and I just fell in love with Talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>five class the Kentucky Pro Football Hall of Fame, will

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<v Speaker 1>be honored at the end of this month, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his career which started when he was a

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<v Speaker 1>where it was it tough to get in. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>where they need great officials now need officials period. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it like back then when you were trying

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<v Speaker 3>Up, Well, it was difficult. You know, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>do spend a lot of time working scrimmages.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had the opportunity, uh to work with

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<v Speaker 3>individuals in Lexington and they would bring you to scrimmages.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd go down over to Georgetown to work with scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 3>and work scrimmages. And then I you know, you finally

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<v Speaker 3>get a break and somebody sees you, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get that opportunity, so you know, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>just start making your application and hopefully I know that

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<v Speaker 3>if it hadn't been for Frank firsty, I probably would

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<v Speaker 3>was very instrumental in my getting in there. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was every afternoon going over to Kentucky practices and working

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Too often now, too many individuals, you know, they expect to,

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<v Speaker 3>to work the state championship the first game, the first year.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just takes time. It's like anything else. And

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and and working those scrimmages. People don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll talk about this more a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on about that. You know, you guys are held accountable,

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<v Speaker 1>but those scrimmages are basically your practice session just as

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, that's that's where you learned. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the repetition. The thing about officiating is, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can learn the rules and you can do all this

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<v Speaker 3>this to learn about the game, but it's watching situations occur,

420
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<v Speaker 3>watching how they how they handle holding, watching how they

421
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<v Speaker 3>handle catches on the sideline. It's the repetition which really

422
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<v Speaker 3>kind of helps you develop it into a great official.

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<v Speaker 1>You were an umpire in the NFL? Were you an umpire?

424
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<v Speaker 1>A great deal? And that's the guy who stands behind

425
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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. Uh did you do that a

426
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<v Speaker 1>lot as you were coming up?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I when I was coming up, it's kind

428
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<v Speaker 3>of funny. You know I would have I would have

429
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<v Speaker 3>worked on the sideline. I would have carried the water

430
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<v Speaker 3>bottles to the officials, you know, get that opportunity. But

431
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I I learned all the positions. I tried

432
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<v Speaker 3>to learn all the positions and understand it. I even

433
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<v Speaker 3>refereed a few games and uh, you know at the

434
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<v Speaker 3>KHSAA back to the Central Kentucky Football Officials Association. But

435
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<v Speaker 3>you know I had the opportunity to work different positions.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I worked in the When I first got in the

437
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<v Speaker 3>Southeastern Conference, you know, I was an umpire, and then

438
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<v Speaker 3>I worked downfield. Uh, the NFL took me in as

439
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<v Speaker 3>a deep official, and then I said, well, I'm never

440
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<v Speaker 3>going to be an umpire again because I don't want

441
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<v Speaker 3>to go in there with you know, with those guys

442
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<v Speaker 3>that get killed. But my one of the officials that hurt.

443
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<v Speaker 3>I was refereeing the do Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills,

444
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<v Speaker 3>and I made I think I made three holding calls

445
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<v Speaker 3>and I threw Brian Cox out of the games fighting,

446
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<v Speaker 3>and and my boss called me on Monday and he says,

447
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<v Speaker 3>you're an umpire next year.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

449
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<v Speaker 3>I said, okay, send me the NFL Europe. Give me

450
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<v Speaker 3>a little season of training. But you know, my first

451
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<v Speaker 3>year I worked as an umpire in the NFL. I

452
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<v Speaker 3>loved it in there. And then my second year I

453
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<v Speaker 3>refread the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Golly, and when you worked NFL Europe, pat of that?

455
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<v Speaker 1>Where did you have to fly back and forth? Did

456
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<v Speaker 1>you stay in Europe throughout the season or how did

457
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<v Speaker 1>that go?

458
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<v Speaker 3>Well? What they did was when I was on the

459
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<v Speaker 3>field in Europe, you'd go over You fly over on

460
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<v Speaker 3>a Wednesday, and then you'd referee a game on Saturday,

461
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<v Speaker 3>and then you'd probably start you'd start off and in

462
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<v Speaker 3>London and then basically what you would do, you'd via

463
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<v Speaker 3>there for a few days and then you'd go to Germany,

464
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<v Speaker 3>maybe Berlin or Douseldorf or something, and in ten days

465
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<v Speaker 3>over there at a time, work a couple of games

466
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<v Speaker 3>and then back and forth. You do that. You know,

467
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<v Speaker 3>you work maybe four or five games over there.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Did you get a chance to do any sight seeing

469
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<v Speaker 1>or anything? Was it fun?

470
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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God, absolutely absolutely. And you know when I was

471
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<v Speaker 3>in charge, When I was a supervisor, my one of

472
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<v Speaker 3>my main responsibilities was NFL Europe. So I would go

473
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<v Speaker 3>I would go over five or six times a season

474
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<v Speaker 3>and spend time with the cruise. I would hire European officials.

475
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 3>I would hire some college officials and some NFL officials.

476
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<v Speaker 3>It would put them together and would work them and

477
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<v Speaker 3>it would go over there. And the thing that was

478
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<v Speaker 3>really interesting about it, Dick, was that we would go

479
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<v Speaker 3>over there and you know, they can officiated, we could

480
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<v Speaker 3>work for them. We wanted to see how they were

481
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<v Speaker 3>hanging out, you know, for a week over there, you know,

482
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, it became a family and does

483
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<v Speaker 3>he fit in with the group. Do you want to

484
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<v Speaker 3>spend You spend a lot of time with your your

485
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 3>actual your crewmates, so you know, do you want to

486
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 3>spend time with this guy. So that was what we

487
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of did over there. But yeah, it was a

488
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<v Speaker 3>it was a great It was a developmental league. It

489
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<v Speaker 3>was the best league that they had. It was great

490
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<v Speaker 3>for NFL.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

492
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<v Speaker 3>You know, they would use it as a developmental program

493
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<v Speaker 3>for the officials, the announcers uh Fox uh and especially Fox.

494
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<v Speaker 3>We'd bring their young guys over there and teach them

495
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 3>how to be announcers. Players were over there as a

496
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 3>developmental league. So it was a great league, but it

497
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<v Speaker 3>was costing the league a little money, so they decided

498
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<v Speaker 3>to cancel after about ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Jim Dappolis. He is one of the newest

500
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<v Speaker 1>members of the twenty twenty five Kentucky Pro Football Hall

501
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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. And we'll come back and talk more with

502
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<v Speaker 1>the ref in just a minute. On six thirty w

503
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<v Speaker 1>l a P. Welcome back. We're talking with Jim Daopolis.

504
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<v Speaker 1>He has been inducted into the Kentucky Pro Football Hall

505
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<v Speaker 1>of Fame and the event, The Purple Jacket Dinner is

506
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<v Speaker 1>later this month. There's a lot of festivities, but that's

507
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<v Speaker 1>that's the big deal, and Jim has always been there

508
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 1>as a supporter and now is going to be honored

509
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<v Speaker 1>that night. Although it's sold out, Jim, I don't know

510
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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to be able to fit anybody else

511
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>in there, but it should be a lot of fun

512
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>going in with Danny Trevathan, the former Wildcat, Michael Bush,

513
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.559
<v Speaker 1>the former Louisville cardinal, Walt Uarski who played at UK,

514
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 1>and Sam grenaison from Louisville. But Jim, of course going

515
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<v Speaker 1>in as are have you mentioned Tommy Bell? He became

516
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<v Speaker 1>something of a local celebrity. How much did he influence you,

517
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>if at all? I got to think he did well.

518
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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you. You know, Initially I was at

519
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 3>a meeting for the Central Kentucky Football Officials Association and

520
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Tommy was there, and Tommy gave us a talk. I

521
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>talked about officiating in the commitment and doing all the

522
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<v Speaker 3>things that you need to do to become an official.

523
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<v Speaker 3>And it was that night that I sat there and

524
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<v Speaker 3>I went home and I said to my wife, you know,

525
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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm going to really pursue this NFL officiating

526
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to see if I can get to

527
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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. And as I said earlier, I never thought

528
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<v Speaker 3>I would get there. I really didn't. But I talked

529
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<v Speaker 3>to Tommy a lot, and when I was in the SEC,

530
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>I had the opportunity to go to the NFL. And

531
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<v Speaker 3>I actually spoke to Tommy prior to his passing and uh,

532
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I said, I love the SEC. I was

533
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 3>working great games, I had a full schedule, and he said, Jim,

534
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<v Speaker 3>as an attorney, I'm going to tell you how I

535
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<v Speaker 3>equated it. You know, do you want to work in

536
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 3>front of the Appella Court or do you want to

537
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 3>work at the Supreme Court and that, and that's pretty

538
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.039
<v Speaker 3>much kind of kind of sold it for me. And

539
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just felt so fortunate to, you know,

540
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 3>have him there to be a mentor and let me

541
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 3>ask some questions about it. And you know, he he

542
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 3>was inducted into the Kentucky Coat Football Hall of Fame

543
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<v Speaker 3>a number of years back, and I was very fortunate

544
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 3>to give his induction speech, and you know, I was

545
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>so proud to be able to do that and respected

546
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 3>him so much, as you know, he refereated a number

547
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<v Speaker 3>of Super Bowls and he was one of the most

548
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<v Speaker 3>visual referees that they ever had in the NFL. People

549
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 3>who he was.

550
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<v Speaker 1>I remember his last year, Correct me if I'm wrong.

551
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<v Speaker 1>We all thought he'd get to work the Super Bowl.

552
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<v Speaker 1>But they needed him his strong hand because apparently the

553
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>AFC Championship game was going to be a real Donnie

554
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<v Speaker 1>Brook if you will, and they really needed a firm

555
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 1>hand there. And so they said, Tommy, sorry, but you

556
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<v Speaker 1>know it's not going to be the super Bowl for you.

557
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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be this game because that's where we

558
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>need you. That says a lot about.

559
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<v Speaker 3>Him, it sure does. And you know, a very close

560
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.000
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine and one of my mentors, Mik McNally,

561
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>who was the only official who has been inducted to

562
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 3>the Canton the Hall of Fame, and Andre Art was

563
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 3>the supervisor and kind of the godfather of of officiating,

564
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 3>and he said to me, he told me how much

565
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>respect they had for Tommy and and just Tommy's manner

566
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<v Speaker 3>out there. You know, I think I heard I heard

567
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 3>his son Bruce said, Tommy used to say, you know, uh,

568
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 3>on the during the week. You know, I'm a lawyer,

569
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 3>but on the weekend, I am the law and that's

570
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>that's who he is. That's who he was, you know

571
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 3>he was. He was so unique at such a great individual.

572
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<v Speaker 1>Jim and I in the past have talked about replay

573
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<v Speaker 1>and how things have affected the NFL and all, and well,

574
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<v Speaker 1>we may talk about that some other time. But what

575
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<v Speaker 1>I did. I've only got a few minutes left, but

576
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<v Speaker 1>one of my and naturally, having been an official, never

577
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>not nearly as accomplished as you. But I am quite

578
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>sympathetic as a media person, and I kind of twinge

579
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<v Speaker 1>when I hear people say, you know, we need full

580
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>time referees, and I always tell them, Look, if you

581
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>knew the hours these guys put in away from the game,

582
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at video and talking to each other and meeting,

583
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 1>it's basically like these guys are already full time when

584
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the hours they work and the scrimmages

585
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Am I right that?

586
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<v Speaker 3>You know? That's exactly right, Dick. You know, you know

587
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the thing about officiating, You know, so many people have

588
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 3>this perception that you know that we get to the

589
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 3>game on Sunday morning, we come out from the stands referee,

590
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the game and go home that Sunday night. And it's

591
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 3>not like that. It's a seven day a week job.

592
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>You get a couple of months off in the summer

593
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 3>or in the fall if you I mean, I'm sorry,

594
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 3>not the ball, but in the springtime if you want.

595
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 3>But guys work right through the year. I mean, if

596
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 3>you're not doing studying talking to someone every day. The

597
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>best you know who the better officials are. They're the

598
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>ones that spend the most time working this. It is

599
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>not a part time job. It's a full time job.

600
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<v Speaker 3>They finally, you know, they are compensated now accordingly. You know,

601
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>it was a long time. You know, they say, well,

602
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 3>you're only working games on Sunday. Well, I think the

603
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 3>league has finally discovered that, you know, they need these

604
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>individuals working, you know, and studying. So yeah, it's a

605
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 3>it's a full time profession now, uh, and they do

606
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 3>very well with it.

607
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<v Speaker 1>People, especially here in Lexion, in a college town, as

608
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, firmly believe there are people out there

609
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 1>that you guys and officials are not held accountable. And

610
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<v Speaker 1>again I try to say, look, I've known officials who

611
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>are simply not invited back, which means their contracts weren't

612
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 1>renewed or whatever. They don't make a huge deal about

613
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>firing people. But if you're not good enough, they leave

614
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you behind and move on, don't they.

615
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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. You know, you're graded on every every game,

616
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 3>and they and the officials that work in the playoffs,

617
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, great out higher than the ones that you

618
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 3>know that aren't working. You know, and they don't they

619
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 3>don't advertise or they don't publicize hiring, nor do they

620
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 3>publicize firings. You know, it's all kind of kept in house.

621
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<v Speaker 3>But if an official is not doing the job, if

622
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<v Speaker 3>he's not working in the playoffs, you know, he's not

623
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>going to be rehired. And you know, it's a situation now,

624
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, you get hired by the NFL as a

625
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 3>as an official, you know, it's almost like you hit

626
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<v Speaker 3>the lottery. It's a it's a it's a it's a

627
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 3>great situation. You know, great benefits, the great compensation and

628
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 3>great retirement. So it's not a bad situation. But you've

629
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<v Speaker 3>got to do the job. And if you don't do

630
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<v Speaker 3>the job, you will be replaced.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what you just described the life of

632
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a player. You know, great money, great retire, great benefits,

633
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>all this, but if you're not good enough, you get

634
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<v Speaker 1>cut and they move on.

635
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<v Speaker 3>And there's always somebody there waiting to take your plate, exactly,

636
00:34:58.159 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 3>always somebody there.

637
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<v Speaker 5>Ye.

638
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<v Speaker 1>Well, before I let you go, I got to ask

639
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you this. Now. I'm sure at some point you work

640
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>baseball somewhere. You probably work softball at UK when you

641
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 1>were a grad student. All but they the pro umpires,

642
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Major leagu umpires. And again, my brother's been an umpire

643
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for fifty years. He's in the Coaches Hall of Fame

644
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>as an umpire. I did it very sympathetic, but the

645
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>way they call balls and strikes now is just out

646
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of control. And now they're talking about using robots, and

647
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody has an opinion on that. But as

648
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a guy who has been a professional, either a supervisor

649
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>or on field official, what are your thoughts on on that?

650
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 1>And again, I don't you know, I don't want you

651
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>to pile on to guys in another sport, but how

652
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>does that sit with you as a guy who was

653
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<v Speaker 1>a professional official.

654
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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I got into the NFL and they had replay,

655
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel that replay is a great tool

656
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 3>for officials at every level. I think correct correctable areas,

657
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 3>and that's what you want to do. You want to

658
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 3>be as corrected and as perfect as possible. I think

659
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>what they have done, and my feeling is is it's

660
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 3>been overdone. I think a lot of officials have kind

661
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>of lost their uh their guts to make calls. They're

662
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 3>more concerned with getting you know that, well, we'll go

663
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 3>to replay, Let replay, refix it, let replay do that.

664
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<v Speaker 3>I think you've got to have confidence in the individuals

665
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 3>that are working out there, but you have to have

666
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 3>confidence in yourself as an official. And I think they

667
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 3>used it too much as a as a crutch rather

668
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 3>than you know, using it to correct those errors. They

669
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 3>almost hit to a point, especially in football, where they

670
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 3>want to officiate the game from instant replay, which I

671
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 3>think is a big mistake. But you know, people expect

672
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>NFL officials to be perfect. You know, they don't expect

673
00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>bank baseball guys to make everything correct, basketball officials, et cetera.

674
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 3>But they expect football officials to get everything right, and

675
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to happen. They make mistakes out there,

676
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, I like the tool. I like

677
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 3>to replay tool. The one thing I always would like

678
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 3>to have done in my life was get behind the

679
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 3>plate and call balls and strikes in a makes the

680
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 3>League game. I have so much respect for those guys.

681
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how they determine what is the

682
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 3>ball and what is a strike? I mean the way

683
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 3>that comes, you know. But it's like everything else, as

684
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 3>you said earlier, it's the repetition, you know, when you're

685
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.480
<v Speaker 3>looking at thousands of them, thousands of them every year called,

686
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 3>then you know, you know, everything flows down and makes

687
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>it easier. But you know, I like replay, and I

688
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 3>think people expect replay, but I think it all comes out.

689
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 3>People really want everything correct, and it's just not going

690
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 3>to happen.

691
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>No, but robots behind the plate maybe maybe on the

692
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 1>way because they are not calling balls and strikes as

693
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>well as maybe they should. But and these guys have seen,

694
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, thousands and thousands. But that's a topic

695
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>for another night. We could talk about it all evening.

696
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy for you, congratulations, looking forward to seeing

697
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you at the end of the month and seeing you

698
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 1>in your purple jacket.

699
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I appreciate it, Dick. I've you know, I've

700
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>appreciated our relationship. We've known each other for a long

701
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>time and we've had a lot of good talks together.

702
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 3>And you know that I'm always available and look forward

703
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 3>to seeing you at the Purple Jacket Affair this year.

704
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. Ref have a good one.

705
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Take care, Dick.

706
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you up. Next now we number two with John

707
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Hale of the Herald Leader and Christy Thomas or the

708
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>UK Sports Network. We will talk a lot of Kentucky

709
00:38:40.400 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 1>football next time. Six thirty wlap.

710
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 4>Taken backed tact.

711
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue and sider joining us

712
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>now as a guy you know from his coverage of

713
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>UK football for the Herold Leader in Kentucky dot com.

714
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Mister John Hale, John, a good Father's Day weekend, I trust.

715
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely. It's always good to take a little breather.

716
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Made sure to get plenty of football news and for

717
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 7>us last week beforehand.

718
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>But there was a lot of news and let us

719
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>start with the headliner, which was of course Vince Merrow.

720
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<v Speaker 1>And I had your colleague John Clay, who of course

721
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 1>made a headline of his own last week by announcing

722
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>his retirement. And I asked him if he was surprised,

723
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and he said, well, John Hale has been hearing some

724
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 1>rumors about this for a while. Had you been hearing

725
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that?

726
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it had been about three weeks since I first

727
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 7>heard the rumor this was in the works. It was

728
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 7>that week of the SEC meetings in Destin, because the

729
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 7>way it was initially phrased to me was, hey, you

730
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 7>see where like the source of the events is going

731
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 7>to go to Mark later this week and lay out

732
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 7>this opportunity of like kind of give them one last one,

733
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 7>last chance to you to counter or whatever. And of

734
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 7>course we've seen this play out so many times of

735
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 7>Vince Marrow in the back of my mind and you know, okay,

736
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 7>this is just another another thing that's going to end

737
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 7>with a new contract or a new title or something

738
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 7>like that, and read the end of it. And then

739
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 7>that weekend came and it was like, well, they didn't

740
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 7>talk today, They're going to talk next week. And then

741
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 7>the next week it came and still heard nothing. And

742
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 7>so by the end of that week I was like,

743
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm assuming this is not happening. And then the Sunday

744
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 7>before it came out, I got a text that night

745
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 7>that said it's a done deal as long as Ben

746
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 7>doesn't back out at all. Whow, I well, that still

747
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 7>leaves a fair amount of grace. This maybe he goes

748
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 7>to Mark and they have that final conversation and everything

749
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 7>gets worked out. And then the next afternoon, that Monday,

750
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 7>I was trying to track stuff down and had not

751
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 7>heard back from anybody in the ESPN report comes out

752
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 7>as well, it's actually happening.

753
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 6>So I was.

754
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 7>I was surprised to see it actually get over the line,

755
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 7>even after hearing the rumor for so long. But I

756
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 7>had at least gotten a little bit of a heads

757
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 7>up that it was possible.

758
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Were you And again, like you said, you had to

759
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself. It's just just another you know, And kudos

760
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to Vinz forgetting offers. I mean, you know, good people.

761
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>That happens. But it seems like those balloons were floated

762
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. But when it all settled into place.

763
00:42:58.239 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>How surprised were you if at all?

764
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

765
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 7>I mean I was, because, like you just look at

766
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 7>it and you say, you know, he's had these opportunits

767
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 7>before to leave and has never done it. Is he

768
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 7>really going to leave his childhood friend to not only

769
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 7>go to another job, but go to the arch rival

770
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 7>where he's going to be like, you know, roster management,

771
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 7>and I had heard the title. The position was not

772
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 7>a position to go to. It was kind of a

773
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 7>general manager, you know, assistant associated ad kind of position.

774
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 7>And that's like he was going to be in the

775
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 7>roster manager part, which means like his whole job is

776
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 7>going to be recruiting at Kentucky. That's that's a huge

777
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 7>portion of it, Like he's actually going to do that.

778
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 7>And especially when it was dragging out the way it was,

779
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 7>when I was hearing behind the scenes, I was like, Okay,

780
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 7>he's getting cold feet. He's not going to end up

781
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 7>doing this. So to see it actually come through, yeah,

782
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 7>I was surprised. I mean, and his comments you know,

783
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 7>over the last week publicly when he's talked, we still

784
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 7>haven't really heard from Mark Stoops other a statement they

785
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 7>put out that relationship is very, very interesting, and it

786
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 7>seems like Vince is trying to have it both ways

787
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 7>where he wants Kentucky fans still love him and not

788
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 7>being mad at him. I don't think that's realist stick

789
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 7>in anyway. But it's going to be fascinating to watch

790
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 7>moving forward. What's this means? You know, as as he

791
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 7>goes out and recruits against Kentucky, and he's not been

792
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 7>shy about poking all over the years and having done

793
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 7>with the rivalry and how they're fans embracing him. Let's

794
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 7>face at Kentucky's recruiting has not been very good the

795
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 7>last couple of seasons. Their roster man has not been

796
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 7>great with the results on the field. So can he

797
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 7>get better results at Louisill was the philosophy change at

798
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky that kind of led him to make this decision?

799
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 7>Is that going to work? Is that going to pay off?

800
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 7>I wish Mark Stoops would have come out last week

801
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 7>and done some interviews, but I guess the next time

802
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 7>we're going to hear from his SEC media day, Yeah,

803
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 7>in Atlanta in July, and that's that's going to be

804
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 7>all we want to talk about.

805
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, and the other biggest question is, and at this

806
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>end of the interstate it's the biggest question is now,

807
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, how will this affect Kentucky's roster management? Will

808
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>there be a significant change in the way things are done?

809
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you're right, of late, it has not been and

810
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Stoops his I didn't met it as much.

811
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that to me is the most interesting part because

812
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 7>I think the change has already happened, and I think

813
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 7>that's directly why Vince left, because even when I had

814
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 7>heard that the rumor that like he might be leaving,

815
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 7>he was going to be bark one last time, it

816
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 7>was specifically to me, it's not about money, Like my

817
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 7>understanding is, his salary at level was pretty much exactly

818
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.119
<v Speaker 7>the same as his salary here, So it wasn't only

819
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 7>more money, but he wanted that power back in the

820
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 7>recruiting process where he basically had final say over every

821
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 7>player they pursued, and Mark has not approached it that way,

822
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 7>especially over the last off season, probably the last year.

823
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 7>In generally, you look at that that transfer portal class

824
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 7>they put together over the winner and we'll see how

825
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 7>it plays out. I mean, I don't think anybody can

826
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 7>tell you for sure whether it's a good class or

827
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 7>a bad class or whatever, but it's a very different class.

828
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 7>So often before, so many of their transfer targets where

829
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.000
<v Speaker 7>guys that Vince had recruited out of high school and

830
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.960
<v Speaker 7>they you know, went to Ohio State or Tollabama or wherever,

831
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 7>and they didn't get and then it came back. It

832
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.400
<v Speaker 7>worked with Wandell Robinson, although Wandell Sai didn't come here.

833
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 7>If Lamponen's not the offensive court, it did not work

834
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 7>with a bunch of other guys. You know, maybe Chip

835
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 7>train and ends up being good last year if he's

836
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 7>not hurt, but he was hurt, and then even after

837
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 7>he was healthy, he wasn't really a part of the offense.

838
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 7>So they clearly made a philosophy change in the transfer

839
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 7>class to not do that anymore. And they had given

840
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 7>each of their position coaches more power to decide who

841
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 7>they recruit at their positions and ice in the high

842
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 7>school classes. Obviously their twenty six high school classes gotten

843
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 7>off to a really really slow start. I think they're

844
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 7>up to three commitments finally, but don't had one going

845
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 7>into June, which is kind of unheard of, And so

846
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 7>that part of it had already changed. And Vince wanted

847
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 7>that power, you know, to kind of have final say back,

848
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 7>and Mark had not given it to him. So maybe

849
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 7>that plays out. That's why I'm kind of surprised that

850
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 7>she has not been more out in front of this,

851
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 7>because I think you could have made a very compelling

852
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 7>case to come out and say, hey, the results haven't

853
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 7>been good enough. The last couple of years. I have

854
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 7>to put the program first. So we made these changes.

855
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 7>And you know, Vince is my friend, but he has

856
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 7>to do what's best for him. And if he doesn't

857
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 7>agree with the changes, you know, good luck to him

858
00:46:57.960 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 7>somewhere else. And you maybe could have even won some

859
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 7>battle that you've been struggling to win this summer with

860
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 7>fans who want you to make changes. But they didn't

861
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 7>do that, and they've kind of just had to be

862
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 7>reactive to the whole situation, which is I'm sure frustrating

863
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 7>for fans, but I do think they legitimately had already

864
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 7>made changes in their recruiting approach, which kind of led

865
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 7>to this now the questions whether those changes work or not.

866
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 1>And now it's going to be really interesting to see

867
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>what happens when these programs, as they often do, go

868
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>after the same kid, you know, because I remember when

869
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 1>when I'm a little bit older than you are, but

870
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>when Rick Batino got here, he was throwing all kinds

871
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of flowers at Denny Crumb until they clashed over a

872
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>recruit and then it got really sour. So I'm curious

873
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>about that, you know.

874
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And like that's a fascinating part of this too.

875
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 7>Because obviously Jeff Brohm has been so good recruiting in

876
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 7>the city of World in particular dating back to his

877
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 7>days at Purdue in Western Kentucky to a lesser extent

878
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 7>before that, But we had made such a big deal.

879
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 7>He was the twenty nineteen class when Vince went into

880
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 7>Louisville and took over recruiting there and had such success

881
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 7>and got all these four four star guys from Woisill

882
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 7>with five star guy in one case, and we made

883
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 7>such a deal by it. But when you look back

884
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 7>in hindsight, none of those guys really panned out. JJ

885
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 7>Weewer was the only guy they got in Louisill in

886
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 7>that stretch who was even a starter. The rest of

887
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 7>them all left before their eligibility was up, and JJ's

888
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 7>career didn't really pan out the way that we thought

889
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 7>it was early in his career because the injuries and

890
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 7>so like that really didn't work. They're in state recruiting.

891
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 7>The last two or three years, they have not gotten

892
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 7>star players from in state, and that's not Vince's fault necessarily.

893
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.960
<v Speaker 7>They got the best players in the state just kind

894
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 7>of whoo who was available in those years, but there

895
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.960
<v Speaker 7>in state recruiting in this current class, Woisill was already

896
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 7>cleaning up, or they got vents. Maybe that was a

897
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 7>philosophy change because they hadn't worked recently. They do have

898
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.119
<v Speaker 7>young guys in their you know, freshmen coming into freshman

899
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 7>year this year, their second year on campus from both

900
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky and Ohio that Vn's recruited who maybe turned into stars.

901
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 7>But those pipe ones had not been nearly as successful

902
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 7>the last couple of years as they were for most

903
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 7>of Fence's tenure here. And so that's interesting to see.

904
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:11.079
<v Speaker 7>Are they is that because they were getting different players,

905
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 7>they weren't getting as good players. Is the talent just

906
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 7>dried up? But my understanding is the high school class

907
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 7>in Kentucky, the junior class now is like one of

908
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 7>the best in the state in a long time. Like

909
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 7>that's going to be a huge deal with Wolwill gets

910
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 7>all those guys in Kentucky does. But they also have

911
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.519
<v Speaker 7>to pan out, which has not been the case recently.

912
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Well that's what I wondered about the last few classes.

913
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, how many kids from the city of Louisville

914
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>have become productive D one players any idea?

915
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 7>I mean, not a ton because Kentucky was getting all

916
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 7>the highest ranked guys in those classes, and it wasn't

917
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.119
<v Speaker 7>like they were just getting the best of what was available,

918
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 7>like they were legitimately in the one class with j

919
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Ju Weaver and Jared Casey and T. K. Krums and

920
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 7>like Shaun Kell Night Golf. I mean there was like

921
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 7>four or five four star recruits in that class based

922
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 7>on all of the Cree one so and just none

923
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 7>of them really panned out. And so that you know,

924
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 7>maybe the recruia websites were wrong. Maybe something else happened.

925
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 7>Maybe in this constant era of constant you know, roster turnover,

926
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 7>they didn't stay around long enough to developed somewhere. I

927
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 7>don't know, but like that part of it has not.

928
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 7>It just never paid out the way that we hyped

929
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 7>it up on signing day. So it will be fascinating

930
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 7>to see if Louisville has more success with those guys,

931
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 7>assuming they're getting the down Kentucky's not.

932
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I remember Ted J. CRuMs was supposed to

933
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>be the answer, right and it just you know, along

934
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 1>with the other guys. And I'm not knocking a kid,

935
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>but just here it just didn't pan out. He is

936
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>John Hale other Hair of Leader covers Kentucky Football, and

937
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk more with John on the

938
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>other side of the break here on six thirty WLAP

939
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, We're talking with John Hale, beat writer for

940
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>The Hero of Leader covers Kentucky football, among other things.

941
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the other bits of news about assistant coaches

942
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 1>was an extension of the contract for Eric Woolford, who

943
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>coaches the offensive line, which has been one of the

944
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>most highly criticized lment of this team over the last

945
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>two or three years. Did that surprise you, John, or

946
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>did you hear about a job offer or you know,

947
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>how did that go to?

948
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Yeah, that's another one where I think they need

949
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:11.920
<v Speaker 7>to do a better job of coming out publicly and

950
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 7>explaining what's going on. Like I have a fair amount

951
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 7>of sympathy from Mark Stops this offseason in terms of

952
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.119
<v Speaker 7>public messaging, because the people who are out and think

953
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 7>that the ship is sinking, nothing you say over the

954
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 7>offseason is going to change their mind right to go

955
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 7>out and win games. So I understand that part of it,

956
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 7>But there are still casual fans who are giving you

957
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 7>the benefit of the doubt and maybe aren't on Twitter

958
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 7>all day long or whatever. Those fans like Vince Merrill

959
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 7>leaving the Woolford extension like that, those are the kind

960
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 7>of news that resonates to those fans, and you got

961
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.000
<v Speaker 7>to explain a little bit more. I am assuming I

962
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 7>have not been told this. I haven't got it confirmed.

963
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 7>I just don't see a scenario where they give Aeric

964
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 7>Quill for an extension or any assistant an extension this

965
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 7>offseason without some other school trying to hire them. So

966
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 7>my assumption is somebody tried to hire him, and regardless

967
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 7>of the results last year, they think he's a really

968
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 7>good recruiter. They clearly gave him full autonomy to rebuild

969
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 7>this offensive line the portal over the winter. They apparently

970
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 7>like what he did there, and so they've kind of

971
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 7>made their bed there in terms of, like, if we're

972
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 7>going to get this fixed, it's going to be air

973
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 7>Wolford who does it. And so at that point, if

974
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 7>you believe in him that much, you can't you can't

975
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 7>really have another offensive flying coach turned over and start

976
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 7>from scratching in the summer. So you've got to do

977
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 7>what you can to keep them. And so if it

978
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 7>took an extension and one hundred thousand dollars Rays to

979
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 7>keep them from whatever school came and pursued him. That's

980
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.280
<v Speaker 7>the decision you made. Maybe it's the wrong decision in

981
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.599
<v Speaker 7>the long run, but I understand why they would do that.

982
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 7>But they need to come out and tell us that. So,

983
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean, like, come out and explain what's going on

984
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 7>there and maybe people will understand a little more. I

985
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 7>actually don't. I mean, one hundred thousand dollar Rays, I

986
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.639
<v Speaker 7>know he's gotten a lot of attension. I wouldn't read

987
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.119
<v Speaker 7>too much into that at all. That's just how these

988
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 7>contracts work. When you give a guy an extension, the

989
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 7>salary goes up by about that amount every time. So

990
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 7>that's is what it is. The extra year is more

991
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 7>interesting because they have I think five assistant coaches who

992
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 7>are only signed through next season, and normally they don't

993
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 7>let those contracts get down to the final year unless

994
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 7>there's obvious like maybe this guy's not good enough, not

995
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 7>going to come back, and like Brad White's only got

996
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 7>one more year left, and Chris Collins, who they've promoted

997
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 7>the convincesquarrias you only got one more year. Normally we

998
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 7>would see those guys getting extended by Nail, and the

999
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 7>fact they haven't done that seems to be a clear

1000
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.239
<v Speaker 7>reflection of where the program is right now. And so

1001
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 7>since they've made the exception with Wolford, that's got to

1002
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 7>be because somebody came and tried to get him. Know,

1003
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 7>let's hear a about why that happened.

1004
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Now, in a situation like this, where you know, this

1005
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>is such a critical year following such a disappointing year,

1006
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>really a span of three but ultimately you know, four

1007
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and eight, you know, you've got to think stability is key,

1008
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 1>so you know, get these guys taken care of. But

1009
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, you've got the house settlement to

1010
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 1>deal with, You've got all kinds of budgetary challenges coming up.

1011
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.199
<v Speaker 1>You wonder if that's all part of the pie.

1012
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 7>You know, yeah, absolutely, I mean that was the other

1013
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 7>news about last week is what their revenue sharing. They're

1014
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 7>going to operate at a deficit the next two years,

1015
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 7>which we know the Kentucky's Athletic Department has been financially

1016
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 7>independent for almost twenty years now at this point, so

1017
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 7>like that is a new thing. They're taking a loan

1018
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 7>from the university to cover that, and then an additional

1019
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 7>one hundred and ten million dollars loan from university to

1020
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 7>finance these facility improvements at Kroger Field. Like all of

1021
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.199
<v Speaker 7>that speaks to a finances are a big deal, but

1022
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 7>also be like they have to find a new way

1023
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 7>to get revenue and control expenses. And the fact that

1024
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 7>all of these first this first wave of facility announcements

1025
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:35.800
<v Speaker 7>they did are all at Kroger Field tells you that

1026
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 7>football is really really important to making that work. Like

1027
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 7>they have to be able to make the revenue off

1028
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 7>these new luxury suites at football whatever this entertainment district

1029
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 7>outside the stadium ends up looking like they have to

1030
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 7>get revenue from that to survive or to at least

1031
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 7>thrive in this new environment where you're going to spend

1032
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 7>twenty and a half million dollars every year in revenue sharing,

1033
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 7>and so part of that is definitely controlling expenses. But

1034
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 7>they have not laid people, They have not cut salaries

1035
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.199
<v Speaker 7>and ask coaches to get money back like we've seen

1036
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 7>at other schools. Like they are spending money to make

1037
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 7>money and it's almost all on football right now, so

1038
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 7>that's they got to get better results too.

1039
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 1>They haven't cut sports yet either. I mean, other other

1040
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>universities are doing a way with the so called minor sports,

1041
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>non revenue sports, and that's that's going to be happening

1042
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 1>more and more, isn't it.

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00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1044
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And Mitch martinheart his like mine, heeps say, is

1045
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.480
<v Speaker 7>like we want to keep our family whole. It's the

1046
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.800
<v Speaker 7>same thing he did during COVID when we were seeing

1047
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 7>layoffs and cuts everywhere else. Like, that's very important to him.

1048
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 7>To his credit, I you know, give him a lot

1049
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.320
<v Speaker 7>of appross for that, because you know, those people who

1050
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 7>come to school to play soccer and whatever else, like

1051
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 7>it's important to them and I understand why you do it.

1052
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 7>But the finances are what they ought at some point,

1053
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 7>and to make this work, they're going to have to

1054
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 7>find a way to generate more revenue, which is the

1055
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 7>hope with these luxury suites and some other things. And

1056
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 7>that depends on football being good enough to sell the tickets.

1057
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, the champions blueboard that will oversee UK athletics.

1058
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you know about it? And how do you feel

1059
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>about that? Yeah?

1060
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 7>It's interesting. I mean I still keep there's got to

1061
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 7>be more to the whole LC thing than we have

1062
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 7>figured out yet, because to me, it just seems a

1063
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 7>little bit like just shuffling things around behind the scenes

1064
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 7>for some reason that I had yet to see. They

1065
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 7>keep saying more flexibility and get out of some university

1066
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 7>like red tape that maybe was holding them back. But

1067
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 7>we have not seen an example yet of something they

1068
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.079
<v Speaker 7>can do with this board, with this setup that they

1069
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 7>couldn't do previously. Like even the facilities the announced last

1070
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 7>week still voted on them the same way they did before,

1071
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:33.880
<v Speaker 7>still got the loan from the university that they would

1072
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:37.880
<v Speaker 7>have needed otherwise, the one accepted. That might be the board.

1073
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 7>They want to bring in people with outside expertise and

1074
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:44.159
<v Speaker 7>pro sports that can consult and advise them on how

1075
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 7>to do this. And the three people they announced Jacob Tanney,

1076
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 7>and we know has this illustrious history both playing in Kentucky,

1077
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 7>playing in the NFL, and now is a guy who

1078
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 7>advises professional athletes on their money, so that's an important

1079
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 7>part of it. Shannon Arvin, the president's CEO Hngland, has

1080
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 7>been there while Keenland is undergoing their biggest renovation since

1081
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 7>the track open in terms of building some new seating

1082
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.440
<v Speaker 7>and restaurants and the new paddock, like that's going to

1083
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:13.480
<v Speaker 7>be helpful for them. And the third guy, Chris sitting

1084
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 7>in Prindeville, was an executive that Fanatics recently, was very

1085
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 7>involved in that nil space and their college licensing program.

1086
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 7>We're in a licensing company before the Kentucky was a

1087
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 7>client of, so he clearly has expertise in that space.

1088
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 7>It will be fascinating to go to these meetings and

1089
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 7>see like how active those three members of the of

1090
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 7>the board are and how much say they actually have.

1091
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 7>You know, I assume it's not just going to be

1092
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 7>window dressing where you put them on the board to

1093
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 7>get a headline and then they don't actually do anything right.

1094
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 7>I still don't think we have a lot of a

1095
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 7>lot of information yet about how that's going to actually

1096
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.639
<v Speaker 7>work and what they're going to do. And the next year,

1097
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:51.920
<v Speaker 7>my understanding, is going to be kind of a transition

1098
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 7>period where they're figuring that out themselves. But they're going

1099
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:58.800
<v Speaker 7>to start meeting soon and we'll find out well, and.

1100
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>The season is going to be on top of us

1101
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 1>before we know. We've talked before about how vital this

1102
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 1>one is, and I've talked to more than one person

1103
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Toledo the opener is the typical

1104
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be the typical MAC team that comes

1105
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>in here thinking it can win, planning on winning, not

1106
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>just coming down to pick up a check, you know.

1107
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean they got a bunch of people coming back,

1108
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 7>and they beat two Power five teams last year. Yeah,

1109
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 7>I mean, so they have full confidence that they can

1110
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 7>come win this game. And Kentucky absolutely is not in

1111
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 7>a position where they can overlook that team, especially with

1112
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 7>so many new players, like over half the roster will

1113
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 7>be playing for Kentucky for the first.

1114
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:37.559
<v Speaker 3>Time this fall.

1115
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 7>Have no idea what to expect from that. There will

1116
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:43.800
<v Speaker 7>certainly I think even if they're if they exceed expectations,

1117
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 7>there will be some growing things as they figure it out.

1118
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 7>And having that game week one is a perfect trap

1119
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 7>scenario where if something doesn't go right, so they have

1120
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.519
<v Speaker 7>to be locked in immediately, because losing to Toledo is

1121
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:59.800
<v Speaker 7>I think a realistic possibility, but also like an absolute

1122
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 7>worst case scenario in terms of getting people to buy

1123
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:04.840
<v Speaker 7>in and get in any sort of positive vibes, it

1124
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 7>would be as aspect.

1125
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you got old miss next and I don't

1126
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 1>even know what they're going to be like, but they

1127
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 1>will be an SEC team. You know, they'll come in

1128
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 1>with the bigger, faster, stronger guys and I'll let you

1129
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>go with this, John, This is fascinating to me this

1130
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>period right now, because you know, receivers and running backs

1131
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and quarterbacks they can go out and throw the ball

1132
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 1>around all they want. How do linemen improve, you know,

1133
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.519
<v Speaker 1>other than the weight room? How do they improve as

1134
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 1>a unit on their own, you know, because they can't

1135
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 1>always be under the coach's supervision. If there's a way

1136
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to do it, I'd love to know about it.

1137
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I assume they're trying to work on

1138
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.599
<v Speaker 7>that cohesion, which is going to be really important, and

1139
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 7>it was good they got all those guys in for

1140
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:49.480
<v Speaker 7>spring to do some of that. But I mean, the

1141
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 7>weight room is huge for this group in particular, and

1142
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 7>we already heard it at the end of spring, which

1143
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I think could be a little bit of a red flag.

1144
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 7>But also it's just kind of reality when you recruit

1145
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of transfers from group of five schools underline,

1146
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.519
<v Speaker 7>which they did. All those guys are experienced, they played

1147
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.320
<v Speaker 7>a ton of college football. The one exception joshua' bron

1148
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.199
<v Speaker 7>the left guard from Arkansas, so he said that he's

1149
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 7>played at this level. The folks, your tackles, the guy

1150
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 7>you brought it at the center, all of your depth

1151
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 7>that you run in the portal are our small school

1152
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 7>guys Bush and into the last week of spring practice

1153
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.119
<v Speaker 7>like they have to hit the way from this spring

1154
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.920
<v Speaker 7>this summer to get to the physical nature of the

1155
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 7>SEC to make that adjustment, they needed to put weight

1156
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 7>and muscle on this summer. And that is going to

1157
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.119
<v Speaker 7>say I think as much as anything about whether this

1158
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 7>line is.

1159
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Good good payoff in the fourth quarter. We'll see, We'll

1160
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.039
<v Speaker 1>soon see. We will soon know about this team and

1161
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.000
<v Speaker 1>John Hale will cover it for the Hair Leader. Follow

1162
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>him on exer Twitter at John j O n h

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<v Speaker 1>l E Underscore HL. Thank you, sir, c down the Road,

1164
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me say with us. Christy Thomas is

1165
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 1>next here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

1166
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Big Moon side of joining us now is my longtime friend,

1167
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 1>colleague teammate on the UK Sports Network as well as

1168
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>back in the day at w KYT. Miss Christy Thomas,

1169
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>who anchors our pregame coverage, also works UK women's basketball.

1170
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 1>We shall discuss both here on the Big Blue Sider

1171
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:13.599
<v Speaker 1>and there's never an offseason, Christy, you.

1172
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Know that, right, Yeah, no, never. I've got two kids

1173
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:21.960
<v Speaker 6>in baseball and softball, and that truckt me. Those seasons

1174
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 6>are year round. Two.

1175
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you post quite frequently about your kids, which

1176
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.039
<v Speaker 1>is great watching them, just you know, knowing you when

1177
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you were single and now you've got kids who are

1178
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 1>out winning ball games. It's it's so much fun. But

1179
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I've got to think you are as stunned, I would

1180
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine as the rest of the Big Moone nation with

1181
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the word that Vince Merriw was changing addresses. Am I right?

1182
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I think rumor mill is always pretty wild,

1183
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 6>and I think at the end of every football season

1184
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 6>there's always some kind of talk about, well, people are

1185
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.000
<v Speaker 6>going to go here, so and so is interested in

1186
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:55.679
<v Speaker 6>so and so, and you know that kind of thing. So,

1187
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, Vince's name has been tossed around for years

1188
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 6>about going places and being courted places and that kind

1189
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 6>of thing. So I think its departure wasn't necessarily a

1190
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.599
<v Speaker 6>surprise as much as where. And that's probably the case

1191
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:11.400
<v Speaker 6>for a lot of us, is that, you know, when

1192
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.599
<v Speaker 6>you've been a part of this rivalry for so long

1193
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:16.519
<v Speaker 6>and it. You know, really, when when the University of

1194
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky becomes a part of who you are and a

1195
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 6>part of your identity, you really understand how bitter that is.

1196
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:27.000
<v Speaker 6>Isn't how put that can be for anybody to swallow.

1197
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:29.559
<v Speaker 6>So I think it wasn't as much, wasn't as surprisingly

1198
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 6>left as much as I was about the location.

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01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.480
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be interesting to see the impact it

1200
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 1>does have though on UK recruiting. But over the last

1201
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 1>three years, the years that have clearly been disappointing two

1202
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.719
<v Speaker 1>UK fans, and ironically enough two of those years, you know,

1203
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's in a ball game. But now it's all about

1204
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.920
<v Speaker 1>as much the transfer portal as it is you know,

1205
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>wooing the high school kids. So you've got to wonder

1206
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.480
<v Speaker 1>about the direction now and the effect in miss of

1207
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 1>UK recruiting and can they get back to where they

1208
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 1>were because, let's face it, Levis comes through the portal,

1209
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Wandale Robinson comes through the portal, and some others, But

1210
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 1>those are the key guys for the last really great

1211
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 1>year Kentucky had.

1212
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:19.440
<v Speaker 6>Right Well, yeah, you know, I think the biggest understatement

1213
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 6>of the century could be that we're in the landscape

1214
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 6>of college athletics is different. That is so really it's

1215
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 6>kind of almost silly to even say anymore because it

1216
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 6>couldn't be more true. So that then means that recruiting

1217
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.679
<v Speaker 6>is different. Everything about it is different. And so sometimes,

1218
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:41.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm a believer that gone are the days

1219
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:43.320
<v Speaker 6>that a coach is going to stay somewhere, any coach

1220
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.079
<v Speaker 6>at any level, within any regardless of where you are

1221
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 6>assistant coach, a position, coach, whatever, where you're going to

1222
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.719
<v Speaker 6>stay somewhere for twenty thirty years. Those days are done.

1223
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.519
<v Speaker 6>Those days are gone. And I think that's maybe what

1224
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 6>we're seeing, what we've seen here is just that sometimes

1225
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 6>it just runs. It's cool. Sometimes you've done all you

1226
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.440
<v Speaker 6>can do at a certain place and then it's time

1227
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 6>to move on. And I think that's what we're seeing

1228
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 6>here with Vince is that you know, he did what

1229
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 6>he could do. He helped put UK in a really

1230
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 6>great position when he could really utilize his skills and

1231
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.199
<v Speaker 6>what he did so well as a recruiter, and it's

1232
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.239
<v Speaker 6>now different. And so I think because of that, it's

1233
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 6>just time to have a different perspective and a different

1234
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 6>face and different person doing that. And that doesn't mean

1235
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 6>that he won't go be successful somewhere else. I think

1236
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 6>that's fine, you know, So I'm not super bitter about

1237
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 6>the departure and about this being different. I think, Okay, great,

1238
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 6>you he did a great job at that time, was

1239
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 6>what Kentucky be did at that time, and now it's different.

1240
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 6>So now we're moving on, and you know, and I

1241
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 6>don't mind, Like if the dynamics are different inside the

1242
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.119
<v Speaker 6>building and you know, then sometimes it's just time to go.

1243
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes it's just the right time for everybody to do

1244
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 6>something else, and there's nothing wrong with that. So that's

1245
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:02.880
<v Speaker 6>really where I'm at with this, is like, you know,

1246
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 6>now it has to be something that you know, you're

1247
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 6>looking for someone and something very different from what Vince

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01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.159
<v Speaker 6>brought to the table when he came on board at

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01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.199
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's interesting too that he goes to Louisville

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01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 1>as basically the GM, not an assistant coach, a positions coach,

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01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 1>even an associate head coach as he was here, not

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01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>a recruiting coordinator, but he's the head honshow when it

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01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.440
<v Speaker 1>comes now to the NIL, I guess now he will

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01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 1>still factor into recruiting. This is to me what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fascinating, even if he's not an off campus

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01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:42.119
<v Speaker 1>guy when you get a kid on campus and Vince

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01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Merrill will be one of, if not the first guy

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01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.599
<v Speaker 1>the kid talks to about, you know, your potential future

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01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 1>here at the University of Louisville. And you never know,

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01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the kid the next day or the next weekend might

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<v Speaker 1>be in lexing and having the same conversation with Mark

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01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Stoops and Eddie Grant because they're going to be still

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<v Speaker 1>going as they have for decades, to the same players.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Oh, yeah, no question. And you know, and I

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01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000
<v Speaker 6>think we we've all heard them talk. We've heard him

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01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 6>be in different situations. We've heard him do interviews and

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01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 6>that kind of thing. And you know, I think when

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01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:13.639
<v Speaker 6>when you do come face to face with him, you

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01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:18.159
<v Speaker 6>know he's he's a charismatic guy. He's funny, he's relatable

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01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:20.559
<v Speaker 6>to these kids in a lot of ways. So you know,

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01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 6>he does he has something to offer as far as

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01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:27.119
<v Speaker 6>that goes. But you know, I think to your point,

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<v Speaker 6>it will be different. You know, I always wonder what's

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01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.960
<v Speaker 6>the pitch. There's a sales pitch every single time you're

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01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 6>recruiting a kid, Right, And I said I would love

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01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:36.840
<v Speaker 6>to be in a living room and know what that

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01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 6>sales pitch is from a head coach at Kentucky or

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01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.960
<v Speaker 6>a coach at Louisville, or a recruiting coordinator from Michigan

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01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:46.599
<v Speaker 6>or Ohios that what's the pitch. There's there's always a

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01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.760
<v Speaker 6>pitch to the kid and their parents about why they

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01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:52.920
<v Speaker 6>should come to or or you know, even consider coming

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01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 6>to that football program. So, you know, I think I

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01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 6>think that would be really interesting to know as you

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01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:04.559
<v Speaker 6>shift years now to to a level what's the pitch?

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, because sometimes that kind of stuff can

1287
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:09.599
<v Speaker 6>get nasty, there's no I mean, it's happened in other sports,

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01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, as you're recruiting the same kid, you know,

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01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.679
<v Speaker 6>I know back in the day women's basketball, and you know,

1290
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.480
<v Speaker 6>it would get really testy and could get you know, interesting.

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01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:22.199
<v Speaker 6>So I think this could be so there could be

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01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.760
<v Speaker 6>a little of that, you know, I mean, there's some

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01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 6>plenty of animosity to go around for.

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01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:27.400
<v Speaker 1>All of us. What kind of pitch did they make

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01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a Campbellsville to land you having grown up there, not

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01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 1>much of one.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it didn't take much, as you know I said,

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01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 6>of anything. It was you know, some of the opposing

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01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 6>coaches from other schools said, we didn't even bother. We

1300
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 6>knew you were going there, so we didn't you. We

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01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 6>didn't even put you on our list of recruits to

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01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 6>even offer you because we knew that's where you were going.

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01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:47.800
<v Speaker 1>So you didn't have to put up with a hard

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01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 1>cell to trying to turn your head.

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01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 6>No, the heart and cell was. You know, which was

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01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:55.320
<v Speaker 6>kind of interesting, is I was not a Division IE

1307
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:59.199
<v Speaker 6>level player, but I was offered a walk on position

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01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 6>at at Louisville. And you know, that was a situation

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01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 6>for me where I, huh, you know that that's great

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01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:07.039
<v Speaker 6>and I could be really cool, but is it really

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01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 6>what I want? You know, in terms of of of

1312
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 6>knowing I'm going to get beat up every day and

1313
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:13.639
<v Speaker 6>have to just give everything I got for it. Like

1314
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.640
<v Speaker 6>a very rooty situation, you know, where you end up

1315
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.199
<v Speaker 6>one day, you know, maybe making a play in a

1316
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:20.920
<v Speaker 6>game and you know, because you got in for about

1317
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 6>thirty seconds and I'm like, no, that's that's not really

1318
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.239
<v Speaker 6>what I'm when I'm after. So that was it was

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01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 6>a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have been the kid who when you stood

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01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>up to go in the crowds, Oh, they're putting in

1322
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the subject exactly. I mean that's great for some, but

1323
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not for you. Uh. Before before I hit the break, Uh,

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01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the man who has been chosen to coach tight ends,

1325
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Derek Shea, has been on staff. But what I think

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01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.000
<v Speaker 1>more importantly, he already knows Bush Hampden's offense. And I

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01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:52.800
<v Speaker 1>bring that up because looking ahead, Christy, this is the

1328
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.880
<v Speaker 1>first season that ham Dan will have had the full

1329
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.119
<v Speaker 1>year cycle to work with everybody on the roster and

1330
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:02.800
<v Speaker 1>get that offense familiar. Uh. You know how much hope

1331
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 1>does that give you for the coming year?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it does give me a good bit of it,

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01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 6>just because I think we're we're in a position with

1334
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.479
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky football that we've not seen this where we've had

1335
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:15.079
<v Speaker 6>that kind of consistency with offense. We've been wanting it

1336
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.720
<v Speaker 6>and we've hoped for it, but we've just not seen

1337
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 6>it and it just hasn't happened. And I think that

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01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, that becomes they're you know, unrest, I think

1339
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.439
<v Speaker 6>in the locker room, and you know that's where you

1340
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:28.039
<v Speaker 6>I think run the risk of really losing us to

1341
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 6>the transfer portal when you just can't have some consistency

1342
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 6>to really start to build something and and that's what

1343
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:37.640
<v Speaker 6>we're finally seeing. And I think once you can kind

1344
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.880
<v Speaker 6>of figure out the offensive line again and you can

1345
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:42.960
<v Speaker 6>kind of get that back on track where we are

1346
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 6>used to seeing that level of play, you can really

1347
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 6>get some consistency at the quarterback position, and you know,

1348
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.760
<v Speaker 6>different things like that. All of that can really come together,

1349
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.479
<v Speaker 6>and it just takes time and you have to be

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01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.439
<v Speaker 6>able to give it time. And you know, we're we're

1351
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.239
<v Speaker 6>not a patient world, that's for sure. But I think

1352
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:03.560
<v Speaker 6>that that that will certainly be beneficial to everybody involved

1353
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.800
<v Speaker 6>in the program that there's finally you know, this is

1354
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:11.039
<v Speaker 6>the guy they know. This is a guy Shay. I

1355
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:13.520
<v Speaker 6>don't know much about him. You know he was involved,

1356
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 6>but not in a real high profile role or situation

1357
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 6>with the program. Third, it'll be interesting to see how

1358
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 6>that comes together and it'd be a totally different perspective.

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01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Christy Thomas. She anchors our pregame coverage

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01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of UK football on the UK Radio Network. We'll come

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01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.560
<v Speaker 1>back and talk to UK women's basketball. Christy, of course

1362
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:34.159
<v Speaker 1>works with Jeff Picarel on the UK streaming broadcast. Back

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01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 1>in a minute on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to

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01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue and Sider. We're talking with Christy Thomas,

1365
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner for jeff Pacarel on the SEC Network streaming

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01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.840
<v Speaker 1>channel for UK women's basketball. Before we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming season in this roster, Christy, this is going to

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01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 1>be a season minus Georgia Aymore and we only got

1369
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to see her for one year, but clearly she has

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01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the impact I think that Kenny Brooks needed and wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think this team's going to be

1372
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.399
<v Speaker 1>like minus one of the best players in America.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, outside of her play, which was just so impressive

1374
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:13.880
<v Speaker 6>and so fun to watch and actually has me very

1375
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 6>disappointed that we only had her for one year, is

1376
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.800
<v Speaker 6>is really her leadership this She was a young lady

1377
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 6>who just had such a presence on the floor. Was

1378
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.319
<v Speaker 6>really a calming presence. I think she never got rattled,

1379
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.399
<v Speaker 6>she never got overly emotional in a negative way. It

1380
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:34.239
<v Speaker 6>was always in a very positive way. She's somebody who

1381
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.159
<v Speaker 6>knew Kenny Brooks better than anybody else on the floor.

1382
01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 6>So I think that to me becomes so crucial in

1383
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 6>terms of what you're missing without her on the floor.

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01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:48.359
<v Speaker 6>You know, listen, she can put in you know, twenty

1385
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 6>six points a night, and you know, tennisis and all

1386
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.159
<v Speaker 6>those are wonderful things, but when you take on those

1387
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 6>intangibles like that, it made her so incredibly valuable to

1388
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 6>this team. So I think it definitely changes the dynamic.

1389
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:04.800
<v Speaker 6>I think it now forces some young ladies to step

1390
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:07.359
<v Speaker 6>up in a way that maybe they haven't normally, Like

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01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 6>a Clara Strack is not a super vocal kind of

1392
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:13.880
<v Speaker 6>leader and player, but she may kind of, you know,

1393
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 6>be forced into a situation like that where she's really

1394
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:20.720
<v Speaker 6>got to take on more of that. But I think

1395
01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 6>that that will be the biggest unknown. You know, when

1396
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.199
<v Speaker 6>you have the transfer portal so readily available and players

1397
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:31.840
<v Speaker 6>that you're bringing in like that, that is going to

1398
01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:35.640
<v Speaker 6>be the single biggest question mark for Kentucky is you know,

1399
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 6>who can kind of move lessen. Everybody needs to stop

1400
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.800
<v Speaker 6>thinking who's going to be the next Georgia Amore because

1401
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.479
<v Speaker 6>there's not one. So I mean it's not that's not

1402
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 6>the question, it's it's who can run the offense. Right

1403
01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 6>now we're looking at not who's the next Georgia Amore

1404
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.920
<v Speaker 6>and who does what Georgia does. There isn't anyone, So

1405
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:56.479
<v Speaker 6>it's going to be who can run the offense efficiently

1406
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:02.039
<v Speaker 6>to keep this team on that winning playing field here

1407
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 6>where where they're they're you know, Kenny brought them back

1408
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 6>last year, so they got to stay there, and then

1409
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:08.600
<v Speaker 6>that'll be the question.

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01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, he did bring in Tony Morgan, the point guard

1411
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 1>from Georgia Tech. I have no idea what her games like.

1412
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 1>You cannot You're right, you cannot expect her to be

1413
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 1>another Georgia Amoor. But you know she started ninety five

1414
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.199
<v Speaker 1>games and has scored twelve hundred points and you know

1415
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 1>his average five assists per games, so you got to

1416
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 1>think she knows a little something about playing point guard.

1417
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Plus having come from the ACC, you know Kenny Brooks

1418
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>knows about her.

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01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:38.199
<v Speaker 6>That was a great get for them. I mean, there's

1420
01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 6>no doubt about it. She brings a little more size

1421
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.439
<v Speaker 6>at five nine, so she's got a little more size

1422
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 6>than what Georgia had. But there there was no question.

1423
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 6>You had to have somebody with some experience, somebody who

1424
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 6>was a little older be able to put this on

1425
01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:57.119
<v Speaker 6>that you know, this team is really you know, I

1426
01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.279
<v Speaker 6>say on their shoulders that that that that's not fair.

1427
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 6>I don't think that's right. A fair assessment that somebody

1428
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 6>who could come in and have some confidence about themselves

1429
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:06.479
<v Speaker 6>to say I can do this. We need you need

1430
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:07.960
<v Speaker 6>me to run the team. That's what I do. I'm

1431
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 6>a point guard. I run, you know, and I can

1432
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 6>run this offense. So you know, I think she is

1433
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 6>a great get for them in that way, you know.

1434
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:18.199
<v Speaker 6>But again it's a matter of coming in and you've

1435
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.640
<v Speaker 6>got to learn everybody. You're learning Kenny system, you're learning

1436
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 6>what he wants, how he wants things, but you're also

1437
01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 6>learning Lexington and the university and a new place to

1438
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.640
<v Speaker 6>live and classes and where am I going and where

1439
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:31.720
<v Speaker 6>can I go eat? And you know all those things.

1440
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 6>So it's a lot for anybody that's coming in as

1441
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.840
<v Speaker 6>a as a first year player here at any school,

1442
01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:40.399
<v Speaker 6>not just Kentucky. But I think that was a big

1443
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.760
<v Speaker 6>get for them. But I'll tell you this, I am

1444
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 6>more excited than anything about watching the two young ladies

1445
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.199
<v Speaker 6>who were injured last season, and that's Jordan Obi and

1446
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 6>Dominica Parova. They by all accounts were or could have

1447
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:59.119
<v Speaker 6>been starters and so and when you lose them, and

1448
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 6>they've got great size, they can shoot, they can do

1449
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 6>so many different They're athletic. They're long, lots of things

1450
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:06.640
<v Speaker 6>that these young ladies can do, and they were out

1451
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:09.079
<v Speaker 6>all season long due to injury. So they'll both be

1452
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:12.479
<v Speaker 6>back and I am so excited to see what they

1453
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:14.800
<v Speaker 6>can do because there was so much talk about them

1454
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:18.560
<v Speaker 6>going into last season as Kenny came on campus. So

1455
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.199
<v Speaker 6>everybody watch out for those two. They're going to be

1456
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:22.439
<v Speaker 6>really fun to watch well.

1457
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.880
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, by default it means more depth,

1458
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>which is something that really affected Kentucky last year. A

1459
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.760
<v Speaker 1>lack of depth.

1460
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.279
<v Speaker 6>Oh they just didn't have it. Yeah, I mean, you

1461
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 6>know I said that there were every single time they

1462
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 6>took the floor and they played, I just kept thinking,

1463
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:38.680
<v Speaker 6>don't get into foul trouble. Just no silly fowls, right,

1464
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and that became an issue. I mean, like

1465
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.600
<v Speaker 6>for Clara Strack, you know, she was a very aggressive

1466
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.880
<v Speaker 6>type of player that you know, would get saddled with

1467
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 6>some fouls early. And I kept thinking that about Georgia

1468
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 6>aymore like, please just don't pick up two early fouls,

1469
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:55.520
<v Speaker 6>and even when she did, she often still played, you know,

1470
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.319
<v Speaker 6>in the first half. So yeah, you've got to have

1471
01:15:57.359 --> 01:15:59.680
<v Speaker 6>that depth to be able to play as aggressively and

1472
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 6>as you need to play in the SEC, you've got

1473
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:04.520
<v Speaker 6>to have some depth because people are going to get

1474
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.199
<v Speaker 6>in foul trouble. You're going to get beat up and

1475
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.039
<v Speaker 6>bang around, and you've got to have some depth, and

1476
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.520
<v Speaker 6>they definitely will have that this year.

1477
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk a little bit about one of the

1478
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 1>other stars they have coming back, and it's Clara Strack

1479
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and a tremendous defensively, but they're going to need more offense.

1480
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess at her this coming sit, I guess they

1481
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:25.479
<v Speaker 1>need a little more of everything. Right.

1482
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:29.119
<v Speaker 6>Well, she she is an all everything player. I mean,

1483
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 6>this is a young lady who, to your point, can

1484
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.920
<v Speaker 6>defend and can also score. But we saw last season

1485
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:37.239
<v Speaker 6>that she's an excellent passer. She sees the floor so well.

1486
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 6>She can dribble, you know she can. She easily can

1487
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:41.920
<v Speaker 6>bring the ball up the floor, and Kenny Brooks has

1488
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.439
<v Speaker 6>no problem with that. So keianni Key's no different. I mean,

1489
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:47.560
<v Speaker 6>she's also one of their post players at six four

1490
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 6>that many times rebounds the ball goes the distance. I've

1491
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 6>seen her take it coast to coast and go all

1492
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.760
<v Speaker 6>the way up for a layup and no one stops her.

1493
01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:00.119
<v Speaker 6>So but that that versatility is really what Kenny is

1494
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.520
<v Speaker 6>is actor and what he likes with his offense is

1495
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:05.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, being able to do lots of things, like

1496
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:08.359
<v Speaker 6>different things like that. And you know, Claire was somebody

1497
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:10.560
<v Speaker 6>that I think really surprised me in that regard that

1498
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:13.520
<v Speaker 6>about how how well she passed the ball, how well

1499
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:16.960
<v Speaker 6>she sees the floor, and so I think that's a

1500
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:20.159
<v Speaker 6>really fun thing to keep an eye out for her too,

1501
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 6>to see, you know, she will just continue to get better.

1502
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:26.680
<v Speaker 6>And she's a hard worker. This young lady isn't isn't

1503
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.359
<v Speaker 6>doesn't shy away from from the hard work. So, yeah,

1504
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 6>a little bit more of everything, right, I mean, when

1505
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:34.520
<v Speaker 6>you lose twenty some points a game or you know,

1506
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.399
<v Speaker 6>eighteen points a game with Georgia Amore, you've got to

1507
01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 6>have a little bit more of everything from somebody like that.

1508
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:43.399
<v Speaker 6>But again, I go back to this idea of her

1509
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 6>being a leader. They're going to have to have more

1510
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:50.079
<v Speaker 6>of that more than anything is her leadership and her

1511
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:54.279
<v Speaker 6>vocal leadership, and you know so so I think it'll

1512
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:56.520
<v Speaker 6>be really interesting to watch her kind of move into

1513
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 6>a bigger role like that and to watch who else

1514
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:01.640
<v Speaker 6>you are. I mean, that's always a fun thing as

1515
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 6>well too.

1516
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and the kid you talked about who missed

1517
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:07.600
<v Speaker 1>last year, those were bigger kids, right. I mean that

1518
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's more size in the league where you've got to

1519
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:10.640
<v Speaker 1>have size.

1520
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:13.640
<v Speaker 6>That's they're both six to one and and what I

1521
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 6>love about you know, Jordan Obie's got some real personality

1522
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 6>and I think she'll be a lot of fun for

1523
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:21.319
<v Speaker 6>fans to watch and get to know. You know, is

1524
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 6>a few times that that I've interacted with her, been

1525
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 6>able to see and interview with her. She's got a

1526
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:31.039
<v Speaker 6>lot of personality and she really understood she's again older.

1527
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:34.399
<v Speaker 6>She said she's going to be that graduate senior. So

1528
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:36.840
<v Speaker 6>she's a little older and got some years on her

1529
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:40.920
<v Speaker 6>and understands being around a little while. So she's going

1530
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 6>to be a lot of fun. I think she's somebody

1531
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 6>that could easily be turned into a fan favorite.

1532
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.319
<v Speaker 1>She is Christy Thomas and before long you will hear

1533
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:51.600
<v Speaker 1>her coverage of UK football. She hosts our pregame coverage

1534
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>along with uh Logan Stenberg. I'm sitting there looking at

1535
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>his picture Logan Stenberg and Jeremy Jarman.

1536
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.119
<v Speaker 6>He'll be He'll be bad. You forgot it.

1537
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, he needs to come back on the show. I

1538
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 1>keep trying to get him back on, so I didn't

1539
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>forget him. I'm looking right at him. But anyhow, it

1540
01:19:08.840 --> 01:19:11.720
<v Speaker 1>won't be long before our football covers begins. Thank you,

1541
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:15.239
<v Speaker 1>young lady, thanks for having me and that'll do it.

1542
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to my guest Christy Thomas, to John Hale and

1543
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.439
<v Speaker 1>to Jim Dapolis and congrats again on Jim going into

1544
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky Pool Football Hall of Fame. That's a good

1545
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:28.560
<v Speaker 1>night to the garage in Lexington sixty nine.

1546
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:31.479
<v Speaker 4>He was giving him the business.

1547
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Anything, doing anything, do anything at stake that anything I

1548
01:20:49.520 --> 01:21:18.159
<v Speaker 2>think from TAPS is undetta donating to the US
