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Is the time of year, there's a lot going on,
nothing bigger right now for us in the LSU women's
basketball team last night. What's going on though? Guys? How
are we feeling today?
Speaker 2: Uh? Feeling pretty good about you? Man? You okay? You good?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I am desperately trying to fake it till I make it.
But there's just been it's been just I don't know.
It's just a weird morning of you know, I don't know,
I don't know. It's it's one of those Murphy's Law
sorts of morning. But but we're just gonna, you know,
just gonna do the show. And we're gonna do the show.
And be good to go. So that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Murphy's Law. Does that mean we lost to the Son
of the Guns again in something? Who are you talking about,
Murphy Salamon Jody?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, no off days, perfect company.
But what's going on? How are we doing what everybody
get into last night?
Speaker 2: I was we had some baseball going on, but I
was still you know, obviously I hustling the basketball game.
I was because I was shooting off messages to ej
Manuel Danny Canell as many as I could get out
after the third quarter. Because remember, like coming in not
only we talked about yesterday nation's leading scorer for Florida State.
They're a really good team. You gotta kind of be careful,
Like you go back and you look listen to some
of the selection shows and they're like, hey, Florida State
the path. I like it. You know, they're a team,
they're hot, They've got a guard that can take over
all those narratives. And I just kind of didn't really
mention LSU even when I was doing off campus yesterday.
Like the people that we had on like they were
pretty heavy on Florida State. Like I can't believe this
is a ten and a half point spread. There's no
way this game is going to be a ten and
a half, you know, point game either way. And I'm like, oh,
you're right, it's gonna be thirty.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean look and it's it's
it's a game that featured some very curious ebbs and flows,
none more ridiculous in that third quarter that Jake was
alluding to after a tough, fought first half in which
LSU has has some foul trouble right Flage Mikayla, an
early couple of fouls, having to sit on the bench
more than.
Speaker 2: They generally do.
Speaker 1: But the depth of LSU showing up in a big
way as despite not having your best players out there
on the court, you still held your own in that
first half and you go into half up by one.
And what that set up was the second half where Vlage,
Michaelee Copedy, well, they were rested, they were ready to go.
They mentioned what's the what's the top scores name from
Florida Oneman playing so lats and yeah, coach Welkee talking
about after the game the big defensive adjustment they made
earlier in the game, they were trying to fight over
the top of the screens for LATS and she was
just getting to the paint at Will say said, you
know what, we're gonna go underneath. If you shoot a
three and you make it, we'll live with that. That's
where we're going to live or die, and we'll ended
up being a great tactical change that bore a ton
of fruit, and LSU ends up after a thirty one
to six third quarter ends up forty point winners one
oh one to seventy one, a statement win from the
Tigers and again one that showed off depth, right, an
ability to win in multiple different ways and ability for
some of the deeper parts of your bench to step up,
which when you're talking about a tournament run and how
do you survive the travails and twins in terms of
a tournament, being able to kind of adapt to the
situation on hand as one of the key key elements
being able to win a championship. So a really massive
win for LSU to send them into the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Florida State, they played their game. I mean you
mentioned lasts and she still she got thirty points, but
look she averages twenty six points per game, and so
it's like, okay, once you make that adjustment, then you
have to stop everyone else. And they did. And Florida
State only had three bench points in this game. And
Florida State was going to live by the three, died
by the three. They had two starters that shot ten
threes apiece. As a team, LSU only shot ten three pointers. Yeah. Right,
So LSU's defense they stood up, They stood tall in
this game against a really good offense. You mentioned the
bench production. It wasn't even necessarily points. Now, they did
have some people score there at the bottom of their bench,
but it was the rebounds, it was the assist it
was the steals that the bench was getting. Four. LSU
had to play a lot of minutes certainly that they
probably weren't counting on in a game of this magnitude.
So it was a total team effort for the Tigers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we said it yesterday. This was on paper a
matchup where both offenses were a leap but LSU objectively
had a better defense and the box score reflects that. Again,
LSU ends up shooting fifty six percent from the field
with twenty nine assists. Okay, that is a very well
flowing offense that is creating a lot of open looks.
Florida State, on the other hand, shoots thirty five percent
with only twelve assists. Else you also did a good
job managing the turnover. It's only known to eleven. So again,
I mean, what is that? A fifty point win in
which you double up the score of your opponent, and
now a forty point win over the nation's leading score
thirty points?
Speaker 2: Excuse me?
Speaker 1: A thirty point win over the nation's leading score and
a good Florida State program LSU looking like they are
in fine form entering the tournament. And really, when you
look at our coach Morgan and managed the end of
the year kind of letting players rest, trying to get
them healthy. To see flage a come back and not
miss a beat makes you really confident for what comes next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're averaging one hundred and two points in the
NCAA tournament. I mean, you've already broken your record for
points in a tournament and you damnator did it again.
So your offense is clicking on all cylinders. You feel
like you're healthy, fully healthy for the first time in
a long time. If you can get the production that
you got from your bench players as well, because LSU
at times this year they've only been able to play
seven people, and that's at maximum. In this game, you're playing,
you know, nine people, and you're counting truly on seven
of them, not hoping that they can give you some
production and sets up a great matchup. NC State's a
really good basketball team. NC State has dominated their two
tournament games as well, so LSU opened up small favorite
two and a half point favorite against the two seed
in NC State, all the way up in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, I mean the Sweet sixteen is here,
which means the big dogs are here. Unfortunately, an absolutely
brutal break last night, uh juju Watkins going down for
USC so one of the other national championship caliber teams
losing their best player. I mean, look, you still got
Texas and Tennessee in this thing. Huge credit to what
Tennessee has built there this year. Still got Notre Dame
TCU in this scene, Duke North Carolina about to square
up in a great rivalry Sweet sixteen matchup, and of
course South Carolina and UCLA all still out there as well.
So if I.
Speaker 2: If ive seeds, the highest that you got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the women's tournament, the women's basketball
just has more kind of superpowers, and so it generally
is a bit more top heavy, and this year is
no no different. And so it's kind of fascinating, right
because now you watch all these teams almost not warm up.
That's disrespectful to those other teams, but like this is
where the real battles are going to kick in, and
for LSU it starts. What's today the twenty fifth? So
what is that Friday, the twenty eighth March. We eight,
six thirty central on ESPN, all the way up there
in Spokane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll head out today. I mean that's such
a far trip. The basketball team will head out like immediately.
I wouldn't be shocked if they're already probably meeting up
at the basketball ops to go ahead and get on
a bird and get out to the Pacific Northwest. It's
long travel. You don't have really that much time in
between both teams coming across the country. Also, like so
many times in women's basketball team, it's been like okay,
well here's the two teams that can go win a
national championship. Yeah, I mean you laid it out UCLA, LSU,
NC State, Duke, South Carolina, Texas US see what the
injury is going to be tough, but you know what
they've done all year, Yukon, Notre Dame or TCU, whoever
wins that game, Like there might be eight teams out
of sixteen that if they won the championship, it wouldn't
be shocking. Where that's not really happen in women's basketball.
Speaker 1: No, uh, and that just speaks to the growth of
the game of which coach Kim Milk has been an
integral part for many, many years. Of course we'll talk
to coach Molkey coming up, depending on travel and uh whatnot.
But a massive win for the LSU women as they
advanced to the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Promises made, promises delivered, continue to have great success in
this Coach Molchy are It's actually kind of shocking how
quickly you can start to take the Sweet sixteen for
granted with where this program was just a couple of
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the bed with Hester and t Bob what's that?
Speaker 1: And y'all welcome back to otb uh toy Tay, go
ahead and get some of those cam Ward links ready
to go? Jake, did you see the cam Ward throw
at prote yesterday? And look, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know. I no, no, look I get it.
It's it's on air. It's not real football. I don't care.
It was incredible. Every now and then a throw transcends
and it becomes, uh something special. And it doesn't mean
he's going to be a great pro. It doesn't mean
he should be number one. So that's a discussion actually
want to have here because I feel like he is
in an absolute lock to be number one right now.
But it does mean that the throw was awesome, rolling out,
fading away, throwing fifty five yards with perfect timing, just
playing awesome. I thought it was also interesting, Jake, and
reading about the pro day, Uh, the big takeaway from
Prody seemed to be his arm strength, right, which is
a stark contrast from Sudhur Sanders, his main competition. So
again cam Woord solidified himself. I mean, god, look at
that throw played again. I mean, boom rolls out left,
and it's not a full size field, so it will
be tricked. It's not a ninety yard toss, but it
is fifty five, perfectly in stride, fading away unless you say, okay,
well this is not real football. Pull up the Chase
Daniel link there, and both dan or Alawsky and Chase Daniel,
independently of one another, yesterday released videos breaking down camboard
and say, look, this is the number one picking draft.
If you go to the last throw in the Chase
Daniel video, you finally the last thro no no, no, no no. Uh.
But the reason why I bring it up is because
it's extremely similar to what you just saw, only in
a game, and it's uh, it is. It is insane.
So here he gets the pressure, rolls out, keeps his
eyes down field even though he's got said pressure, and
watch his throw that he delivers the same thing, kind
of fading away, throwing against his body back in the
end zone between the two defenders. I mean, are you
kid me? That's nasty?
Speaker 2: That's nasty.
Speaker 1: Uh, Taylor, you're a resident mock draft expert. Do you
think do you think Kim Ward number one overall?
Speaker 5: Titans need a QB.
Speaker 3: I mean, it looks like everybody across the board pretty
much thanks Kim, Ward's are the best guys.
Speaker 5: I don't see why not.
Speaker 1: But do you believe that he's a true number one
overall pick? Because that's where the conversation seems to have
changed for me, is that many people to have not
up to this point, but now it's seems like people
are saying, no, actually, this guy is worthy of a
number one selection, not just being taken there because he's
the best of the bunch.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, it's not his fault. Again.
We brought this up with Shador Sanders last week, like.
Speaker 3: The lack of big games, but again that's not his fault,
like he can only kind of play who he's playing against.
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 3: Something about cam Ward's missing for me. I don't really
know what it is. It makes all the throws though.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't like him. I guess he doesn't like Miami,
you don't like Incarnate Word, you don't like Wazoo. What's up?
I don't, Jake, do you have I mean, do you
believe that he's a number one pick? Like not not
just by circumstance, but not good.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's worthy of a number one pick.
I think it when you look at how he progressed,
how he went to different offenses and continue to get better,
continue to make his teammates better. What was he going
to measure that was going to be important? So he
was over six one? Okay, check that box. You know,
he kept his turnovers down, but also had like a
free will style of play right, so he could improvise
but not be careless with the football. Again, every year
you look at his stats, he just continued to get better.
I mean yards per attempt, touchdowns, you know, obviously, like
he's gonna have better numbers at the FCS level than
he did the FBS level. But when he went from
Incarnate where to ja Zoo, Like you look at how
that team changed as well. Wasn't just him as a player,
I mean that the complete team changed and so and
he also, like Matiir was there during his time. That's
a damn good quarterback that he beat out.
Speaker 1: I was watching Matier highlights yesterday. If I was an
Oklahoma fan, I'd be hyped.
Speaker 2: You should be.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I did not watch a lot of
Wazoo last year, given that they were kind of relegated.
Speaker 2: To they were really good. But yeah, they're two team conferences.
Speaker 1: But my god, I mean.
Speaker 3: When Oregon State wound up actually winning the Pac twelve,
right like, even though Washington State had the better record,
Morgan State beat him head to head, so they claimed
that that's funny winning the pack twell Pac twelve championships
because the Washington.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, okay, so uh cam Ward, it feels like
is the only quarterback in this draft where teams are
actually excited about his NFL prospects. It seems like people
are kind of dragging their feet on Chadur and everybody else.
There's just kind of like, oh well, maybe, like you know,
there were some Quinn you or Saints talk. Didn't they
go out to eat? Uh quin yours?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Interesting that he chose to go to the NFL and
turned down four to six million dollars a year for
going with that money, he's going to make less money
because he said that he did not want to taint
his time at Texas and his reputation in Texas, which
is interesting growth considering that out of high school, this
is a player that literally reclassified, went all the way
to Ohio just to get in il and and then
by the end of this thing said you know what, No,
I'm going to actually say no, would take less money
and try to make it much less money. I mean,
he would have made four to six million for one year.
You might not even get that for a whole contract
by the.
Speaker 2: Time he's drafted.
Speaker 1: Are there any other quarterbacks besides word that you think
people are genuinely excited about.
Speaker 2: I'll also say this one more thing on cam Ward.
Name a receiver outside of Rostrepo that he played with
in college.
Speaker 1: I can't name them.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's kind of a point. Yeah, he hit a.
Speaker 5: Couple of good tight ends. But like to Jake's point,
like receiver.
Speaker 1: What was the guy that senior boy Royal?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like talking about like at Wazoo wherever he's been, Like,
I'm not saying he did it on his own, but
he created a lot on his own well and ran
a four eight eight. I know I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to make this into like a weird
Miami segment. I want to do the number one overall
pick thing, but I did want your interpretation of the
Restrepo forty because I know this is a guy who
obviously knows how to get open. He's a route runner,
he knows how to find space. He was awesome in college.
But he's a wide receiver that just ran a four
to eight.
Speaker 2: Why even why let him run? I have no idea. Well,
well he had to. He didn't run the combine, so
he was. My brother in law said the same thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you not do you agree?
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I mean, I know, and you're like,
just hey, leave it to their imagination and go off
your tape. I know it's a strategy, and listen, here's
the deal. And you heard me go off on it
whenever it happened. All these people, Joe Cooles didn't want
to do anything at the combine. I'm saving it for
the pro day. The problem with that is if you
have a poor pro day, that's it. If you have
a poor combine, you have a pro day, you have
the ability to go back out there and have another opportunity,
and oftentimes you know what you need to work on
in that two week span. You can go grind on it,
make a small adjustment and improve yourself. But if you
go to Indy I'm just gonna do drills, okay, but
just know your times are going to be final at
Pro Day.
Speaker 1: Well if something tells me Trepper though probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Maybe not. But look, we like Jarvis ran like a
four to seven or something like that. The combine then
ran like a four five nine at Pro Day.
Speaker 1: So what do you think, uh is Strepo done?
Speaker 2: No, he'll get a shot. He's Miami's all time leading receiver.
He'll get a shot. He'll probably get drafted. Now. He
didn't stand at Like, he didn't stand out at the
Senior Bowl, and we were both there obviously, like a
Lab mcconki did, and Lab McConkie ran a four to three, right,
So like if he would have stood out at the
Senior Bowl and ran a four eight, I've been like, Okay,
it's it's bad optics. I get it. But the guy
was always open. It wasn't that narrative for him.
Speaker 1: Dynamobile Ah, but yeah, crazy crazy for Xavier was.
Speaker 2: A great kid. Yeah, he'll get a shot.
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fresh off getting ament from the number one receiver in
the entire country, gets another commitment from a big time receiver.
This time was four star Jabbari Mack six one two
hundreds from Destrahan chooses LSU over Texas A and m
Ohio State. Hell of an offer list here. Got to
love this quote from Jabari quote the best in the boot,
stay in the boot. Nice job by the Tiger recruiting
machine getting that instilled. And look, I know again, like
we said, it's impossible not to be a bit cynical
on recruiting. And it's still early and you have all
the way till December. But LSU currently with the number
one class and they just added the number five player
in Louisiana, the number eleven receiver in the entire country,
a top three hundred cat in Jabari Mac.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing that can maybe get you more
hopeful than it's been in the past, because we've seen
this is everywhere not LSU. You get there, you can't
get to the finish line in NIL because somebody else
comes in they offer you more. But Lsho's never had
this much in their NIL fund. They've never had what
they have currently right now. You've got head coaches putting
up a million dollars, you have, you know, a donor
putting up a million, and you've got the fans matching
a million. Like you have initiatives right now that you
didn't really have in place. Before, and so if you're
an LSU fan, and also them being from Louisiana that helps.
They're not from you know, Michigan or California or Florida
like wherever. They're from Louisiana, so that helps. But also
where you're at right now compared to where you were
and what you have available to give out.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So again it's it's can they get it
across the finish line. The resources are greater than they've
ever been, like Jake's talking about, and it continues the
odd unexpected revitalization or maybe not even revitalization, but the
kickstart of the LSU fundraising arm that all began when
Larry Ellison came in and uh stole Bryce Underwood for
his fifth wife. They're up at Michigan, yeah, uh and
so and again also like look, I always have a
believer that when you're talking about a position like receiver
else you're having another big time fall this year where
Chris Hilton does a good season Aaron Anderson, Nick Anderson.
I mean there's a ton of options, right Barry and Brown.
Who am I'm missing here? I know I'm missing some
uh some obvious ones. Hilton. Aaron Nick Barryon Brown, Thomas,
Zavian Thomas. Yeah, I mean, uh, if those guys put
up numbers, then all of these receivers are going to
feel justified. New So also, I mean again, Cortes handon
one of the biggest pickups that else who's ever gotten
getting him from Georgia. It continues to pay dividends and
and Georgia's receivers haven't done anything since Hanton left. So
make sure you hang on to Cortes as hard as
you can pay that man his money, as Malcolvich would say.
Speaker 2: And then also, I mean you throw trade as Green
into that conversation. I know he's a tight end, but
such a hybrid player, and we saw what he can
do in the bowl game when he's like a you know,
a focal point of your offense. And then you went
out and you got two more. Actually got a y
tight end and you got a tweet er an F
and a Y. So yeah, who I still can't believe
country than than old Bauer sharp, But uh.
Speaker 1: I think I think y'all are equally country.
Speaker 2: You've put this really you and bower Man what all right?
I'm sorry, I'm start leaning into it now. That's what
I'm saying, why is this?
Speaker 1: Why? Why?
Speaker 2: Why? Uh? I'll tell you. I'll tell you later.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a negative?
Speaker 2: It is because you so you've like the way you
formatted everything to replace what you lost. I mean, you
lost your all time leading tight end and you're going
to really try to replace that production with three players,
I think you got a great combination and again you
got you go get three different type of tight ends.
Well Yard had one, but making the transition back to
tight end. Remember at one point he's moved to receiver
a year ago.
Speaker 1: It looks so funny lined up at receiver versus DVS
is unbelievable. All right, So you have a ton of
weapons this season. You have a ton of weapons committed,
and it's up to the weapons this season to do
well and keep these players committed. But shout out to
Jabari Mac top three hundred player, four star receiver, Destra
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to off the bench, where the takes are
hot and the sports talk is questionable. What's going on, y'all? Uh,
somebody me a hot take to justify big boys. Ladies
rejoin there, Taylor. I mean, if you don't have the
hot take ready.
Speaker 3: To go, I mean I just watched all sup women's
basketball last than they dominated. I mean there's not really
a hot take take away from that?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 5: I got one.
Speaker 3: Uh, Mikayla Williams might be the best all around player
in women's college basketball.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to a take that is.
Speaker 3: She went ten for twelve last night from the court,
three for three from beyond the arc. She plays great defense,
scored twenty eight points. He find me five players in
college basketball that are better than Mikayla Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna say Page Becker's in company, but.
Speaker 2: Did you walk in? Two went down?
Speaker 3: She's also doing this at like six feet as a guard,
which is like that's tall for the women's game as
a guard. I mean, she she can do it all.
Speaker 1: Do I have a hot take? I had one, and
because I feel like I'm just walking through danger levels
of brain fall. Right now, I can't remember what I's
gonna say. I feel like I'm driving on a bridge.
I can't in front of my face what you got?
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart will be a first round pick.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a little fresh baked hot taking fresh out
in the oven.
Speaker 2: And I don't even think right now, I don't even
think it's a question.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a question.
Speaker 5: That's That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Mock streets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much unanimous. Now, it depends on where he's going.
Has been multiple teams.
Speaker 1: How y'all are saying? This is making me think he
may even jump Schuder or No, I don't think he'll.
Speaker 2: Get that high. I don't think he'll get that high.
But I do think he'll be a first round pick.
There's you know, there's quarterbacks that like a Chase Daniel,
that go over film and talk about the intangibles, that
love Jackson Dart and love his ability to create on
his own and all this. Like my question would be,
when he's facing the elap pass rusher, his game has
kind of changed, or when he's faced a good trash rusher,
even his game has changed, and he has struggled in
those contests. But you know how it is to anytime
that you don't have this quarterback draft like we had
a year ago where it's like, okay, these four or
five guys are going to go pretty early. Who can
be the guy that nobody's talking about? Well that it's
kind of been Jackson Dart. It's it's been wardon Sanders
one and two, and it's like nobody else really took control. Well,
Milrose had a disappointing pre draft process. Will Howard had
a disappointing Oh yeah, but we knew that was common. Yeah,
that was no surprise. Dylan Gabriel didn't have a great
Senior Bowl, like, so we could go over like some
of the players that were trying to get to that
number three spot. But I think it might be Jackson
Dart and I think he's going to be a top
thirty two player.
Speaker 1: So it has to be like a Kenny Pickett draft
to not have three quarterbacks go in the first round.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, because even outside of like who's the
second quarterback taken in that class?
Speaker 1: I mean that that's what I think of as probably
the worst.
Speaker 3: I know we were second round, there was there was
it was Willis and somebody else were right next to
each other. Willis may have actually been three. Okay, but
like you team up, you were bringing up Shador Sanders.
Chador's kind of weird because he could go too. He
could go mid teens depending on who passes own it. Yeah,
because like Cam's going one, does Cleveland take him? I
don't think they take a QB if New York doesn't
take him at three? The Patriots aren't, the Jags aren't,
the Raiders aren't. Now that they got Geno.
Speaker 1: What is Cleveland gonna do?
Speaker 2: Then? Are they gonna go?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: It sounds like they're going to Travis.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think Travis Abdual Carter one of
the two suite.
Speaker 1: You'll have Abdual Carter, Miles Garrett and win four games.
How disappointed because.
Speaker 5: I mean they still have to pay the show on.
Speaker 3: They brought in Kenny Pick It is kind of like
a fail, say for him to come back from his achilles.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't I don't think they take one
this year.
Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter was the second quarterback.
Speaker 1: But were there three quarterbacks in that first round?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Where I pick it was?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the next the next quarterback didn't go until
seventy four.
Speaker 1: Uh. And then last year, of course you had the
run on QBS. But then the kind of crazy thing
is all of them seemed to do pretty well. Yeah,
bo Nicks was solid. Uh. I didn't think Drake May
was very good, but I didn't watch Patriots super close.
But people say Drake May was very good. So I
think Michael Pennix is very strong. When he got in
for Atlanta at the end of the year. I think
the Vikings really like JJ McCarthy, as evidenced by the
fact that they have said no to Rogers and whatnot
and said we are riding with McCarthy. So it worked
out last year. So Jackson Tark gonna be a first
round pick. How about that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: All right, So tonight, guys, Midweek Baseball back and it's
l s U versus UL. Those damn dirty Cajuns, those
same hoe ass people that told on Cagenomics and tried
to ruin a great community. But you can't kill Kagenomics.
But I'm out for revenge tonight. I want LSU to
absolutely smash this UL team and smash they. Should you
talk about UL team that is not the UL team
of Norm eleven and fourteen on the year LSU. Of course,
I think the goal is to not let a disappointing
finish to the weekend roll into this. Jay Johnson talked
about this team needs to have amnesia locked back in
and go kick ass tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, and we talked about it yesterday. There's
things that you can identify pretty clearly and say, hey,
these are the things that we have to fix. These
are the things that we have to work on. And
it wasn't all doomsday. You didn't get swept. You did
win a game, you had a chance to win the
second game. And that's what you're trying to do on
the road in the SEC. Now that's not sunshine pumping.
You do have work to do. You do have things
that you have to improve on as you head into
this weekend with another SEC series at home, and so
you know you're going to get their best shot. That
always happens. You're LSU. Anytime you play a team in state,
you're going to get their best and that's a good thing.
It means you're going to get a lively midweek game.
And so I'm not saying you go out there and
you're not gonna throw your you don't know your best
bullpen arms. Obviously that's not what you do here in
this situation. But what you can do is guys that
you're wanting to step up, Guys that you need to
take that next step, certainly there in the bullpen in
the back half of these games. This is when you
run them out there and give them that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Alandra, do you have a great idea of how you
think else you manages the arms tonight what they seek
to accomplish.
Speaker 4: I don't remember how many pitches he gave you, but
I know Jay said that you're not going to see
William Schmidt in the midweek anymore.
Speaker 1: That's true, but like, but maybe you'll see William Schmidt
in the midweek. I mean why not?
Speaker 4: Like Yeah, it was like a definitive.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, I came here to say this.
It was more like in the flow of conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I did the Jay Johnson Show
last night and Chris Blair had asked him something about
like how do you get the freshman ready for the
big moments? Like how he ran him out there Saturday
night versus Texas, right, and cause it's hard to recreate
that SEC environment, especially a road environment. And Jay said
that whenever they were in Frisco, if you remember, Billy
Schmidt came in. I don't remember which game it was,
but he came in and he said that that was
kind of how he was preparing him in the closest
that he could get it to like an SEC road environment.
So obviously not an SEC game tonight, but I mean
big game here in Louisiana. There's probably gonna be a
lot of people in the stands. Give William like a
chance to kind of shake back from Saturday he got rocked.
But I mean, I don't I don't really know, to
be honest, Like it just Saturday just didn't go way
that like it should have win.
Speaker 1: So you're having a crisis of confidence right now.
Speaker 4: And no, not even my analysis just like with the
oh yeah, and I hate to say it, but and
it's not even like a for me, Like I don't
think that the sky is falling or anything like that,
but like, I just don't know what you do with
the rotation.
Speaker 1: Let's just like, but what are like take a step back,
let's remove the emotion and what are the actual question marks?
Still I would say I don't have any questions about
the offense. I know how it ended last week and
was very disappointing. That's baseball, you have these bad runs. Also,
I trust Jay Johnson getting good one to nine offensive
production all the time. And and again it is an
absolute battle to work through Relisu's lineup right now. So
I have no offensive problems. Defensively, I think it been
really sought. I mean, you know how I lost from Saturday.
Was Milam just making play after play doing every thing
he freaking could.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, he was.
Speaker 1: He was believable defensively.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mylam is again baseball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and and the the the the exchange
right getting ball to hand, whether he's just picking it
up straight off the ground, he had the one that
kind of carre him up in the air and then
he just snagged it and through it like uh, it's
it's it's it's so quick and so accurate, it's it
boggles the mind.
Speaker 4: So so what we talked about though, like whenever we
were like, is he gonna be able to make the switch,
And Jay's like he has that instinct, Like he just
has the instinct.
Speaker 5: He's so he's just so good.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Bill Frank Is you know hit that
that clip clip that we played on Friday where he
said it's gonna be the best interior double play combination
I've ever seen, al Will Yeah, I've see more reasons why.
Speaker 4: They are making all stretches at first though, Like he's huge,
and like for him to make those like he was
like belly flopping over there.
Speaker 2: And yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like think about how like concerned people were when
Trey Morgan left because of how good he was at
first base.
Speaker 1: You know he also had the diving stop yeah Jones
the weekend. Yeah he was.
Speaker 5: He was pretty good last year.
Speaker 3: But he's taking such a step forward defensively, like Tommy
White at third base from year one a year two.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then what about Catcher. I don't have
a great take on Ketcher. How do you feel about.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: No, it's Hernandez, But I'm saying, how do we feel
about him defensively? I don't feel like unless he's got
run on the tons?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I I'm confident in Hernandez behind the
plate and at the at the plate.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely had the plate too.
So okay, so we feel good about the bats feel
good for the offense. I think you feel good about
two of your starters, yes, and Anderson, and iinsen you
need more from whoever's going to be on Sunday. It
continues to be Chase Shores and then and then who's
the bullpen arms that you feel good about?
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Zach Calan case Adams.
Speaker 5: I mean, I left has been pretty good.
Speaker 4: Has been pretty solid, and I might be a little
like I actually like Connor Binge, like I think that
he's given you a couple of good outings. It might
have not been what you wanted it to be on Saturday,
but I mean, nothing went the way you wanted it
to go Saturday.
Speaker 1: But like the guys with a bullet that you're not
concerned about Cowen Evans, Yeah, are you throwing Primo in
the best lefty? So again, I guess this is all
an exercise insane. Emotionally, it feels very bad after how
that turned and that seventh inning on last weekend, but
objectively it's still a lot of good with very clear
and obvious areas in which to improve.
Speaker 2: And one of the things you can't write you do
right now is like Zach Cohen, like cow and say
like he went into the starting rotation because he's done
that before at Watford. Yeah, well you lose his arm
in the bullpen, so you don't have that luxury right now,
Like that's the problem.
Speaker 1: But then his shores better out of the pen now.
I mean, I don't know. He was great as a freshman.
It's been a long time since then, and I mean
maybe Shorts will figure it out as a starter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Do you think he would play around with that on
this another.
Speaker 4: This is another question that they asked Jay last night
in the show, and he was like, I mean, there's
no question that Cowan can be a starter.
Speaker 2: That's what he was that region.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I I think that you leave Shores
there Sunday and let him kind of get those his
pitch count, get some innings under his belt, and try to,
you know, give back to where he was before.
Speaker 1: Man, how many years has been sad? You feel like
you're a Sunday guy that made the difference in all
these series. I remember Michael Hilliard had that year where
he probably won you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went up.
Speaker 1: That was his freshman year series.
Speaker 5: Eric was great. So that was the Texas Ranger.
Speaker 3: He was because like that was the the year he
got her right before the World Series and he had
to go Caleb Gilbert then he got out of piecing
together in the Natty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Sunday roll was Sunday, So it was it
was when first got there, it was Saturday.
Speaker 3: And then you had uh Kyle Bowman, who was actually
a pretty good Sunday guy. That was That was the
order there with the laying as well.
Speaker 1: So still kind of trying to find uh, trying to
find that great Sunday guy. But maybe.
Speaker 4: One of the most insane breaking balls that I've ever seen.
Michael Hilly Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like talk about Ben the
knee people. He had people like Nasty all right, Swinging.
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Speaker 5: Off the Bench and with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 1: Tonight, what's going on y'all? We'll go back go to
b Midweek Baseball tonight tournament cranking back up? When tomorrow Thursday?
When do the Sweet sixteen games start tomorrow?
Speaker 5: Tomorrow?
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on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh Taylor, we were just discussing. You were,
you know, doing the mock draft thing there during the break,
and you're saying, if Schudur gets past the Giants, when
do you think that he'll go?
Speaker 3: Cause okay, the Giants are at three and you got Patriots, Jags, Raiders.
They're not taking a QB because like everybody thought he
was going to be six. They traded for Gina, they're
not taking Shador. I wouldn't think I would think they
would take genty. That's kind of who's been mocked to him.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The Jets are at seven, they need a QB.
Speaker 3: But if they don't take him, he could like far
because the Panthers, no, we don't think the Saints are
going to Then you have Bears forty nine, Ers, Cowboys
ten eleven, twelve, Dolphins at thirteen, Colts at fourteen.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of I mean, I mean, like, what
does he Colts? I don't know, though, I feel like
there's some quarterback teams in there, Like the Saints don't.
Speaker 5: QB first round?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I suppose not.
Speaker 5: Do they need one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Are they going to take him?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: No man considers a course base for himself that has
proven profitable to others. Nobody know the Falcons are gonna
take Pinnis last year that seems to have worked out.
Speaker 3: So it's just weird to think about because like, this
is a guy that could go to or he could
go like.
Speaker 1: Sixteen if if he gets if he's there on the
board when the Saints are there, I mean, I don't know, Jake,
what do you think? You gotta think real, real hard
about it. It's almost it's almost shit.
Speaker 2: Really just depends on how you view him. Yeah, if
you're like, we love him, there ain't no way he's
going to get to us, and he does, you do it. Yeah,
if you're not in love with him, you just you
don't take the risk of a player that you're not
in love with at a position that it's not settled,
but you've settled it in your mind with Derek Carr.
So it's really all about how you feel about the player.
That's like the Falcons last year. I don't think they
went into the draft saying we're going to take a quarterback.
They loved Michael Pennick junior. He fell to them at eight.
They turned the card in our two coming up next
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