1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty five, published on 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,719 October thirty one, twenty twelve. Trick or Treat. 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:12,679 Speaker 2: Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:12,759 --> 00:00:16,320 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:22,359 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,239 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:30,920 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: I've had clients come in and say, you know why 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,200 I should be I practice all the time. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,719 Speaker 4: You know I should be able to repeat this. 11 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:39,039 Speaker 3: You know I should be able to hit a bunker 12 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:41,079 shot or a pitch shot, or hit a t shot. 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,719 Speaker 4: Like Tyer Woods. I mean, I had people say that, and. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 5: I said, you know what if you told about the 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Tyler woodsy punch in the face right now? Why because 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 he's one of the world's greatest athletes and he spends 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,240 about five thousand percent more time working on his game. 18 00:00:56,159 --> 00:00:58,119 Speaker 4: Than you, And why in the world would you deserve 19 00:00:58,159 --> 00:00:59,719 to hit it like Ken? Can we talk about this? 20 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:02,039 Speaker 3: Worrying on Golf's not about who hits the best, It's 21 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:04,840 about who misses it the least people have to understand 22 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:07,920 that in a coaching environment, if you're open, you are 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,159 going to perform at a much higher level, and you 24 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:13,519 should do that immediately. But to own it and take 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,560 you to the course and stand there with half the 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,359 people in your clut membership looking at you and rip 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,680 it down the fairway just like coaches there. It's not 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,239 going to happen until you deserve to have it happen. 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,159 And that comes through that journey. And that's why golf 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,000 is exciting because it takes a lot of hard work 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,719 to play at a high level. 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: It doesn't take a. 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,239 Speaker 3: Lot of hard work to experience great ball flight, but 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,719 it takes a lot of hard work to own that 35 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:37,239 ball flight. 36 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:47,879 Speaker 1: Jeff Ritter on his integrated approach to being a better golfer. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,799 This is Golf Smarter. 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,079 Speaker 6: Each week we tap the best minds in golf to 39 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,159 help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,159 in conversation with course pros, architect authors, players, teaching gurus 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,920 and coaches. 42 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:07,719 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. 43 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: Jeff, Hey, Fred, thanks again for having me. 44 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. I need to apologize to the audience 45 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:15,879 for being a little bit late. I know some people 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,840 like to download this immediately, but I've had some technical issues, 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,439 and strangely enough, this is the fourth time that Jeff 48 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:27,080 and I are trying to record. We've recorded two episodes 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,719 already and they disappeared, and so we're trying to get 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,680 so we're really well rehearsed. This is the first time 51 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:36,560 we've had a rehearsed Golf Smarter podcast. You ready, I 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,680 am absolutely ready, Yeah, right, exactly, good time. Yeah, sure, 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,360 we're par so, Jeff. One of the things, and we're 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,719 gonna get right to it. I want to talk about 55 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:54,759 your approach to integrated your integrated approach to coaching. You 56 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:59,680 you bring in so many different elements, not just swing 57 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:02,919 mcare annex and I know that technique is a big 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,000 thing for you, but you bring in much more to 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,240 your coaching approach. 60 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, Red. 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: The integrated approach is really just trying to create an 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,599 extension of the golf performance aspect of things. I mean, 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,319 my expertise is in the technical aspect of how to 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,919 change or improve your ball flight, you know, from tee 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,919 to green. That's what people come to me for first 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,520 and foremost on a daily basis. The things that I'm 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,000 interested in personally and have been for a long time. 68 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: You go beyond that. I'm really into too, fitness. 69 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm really into the mindset aspect of high performance in sport. 70 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,159 And I'm also very much into nutrition now because as 71 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:47,439 you know, my fiancee came in a row is a 72 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:48,240 nutrition coach. 73 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: So all these things. 74 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: That you know I've engaged in on my own over 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,439 time have led their way into my coaching. And what 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,680 I've found is that that technical environment becomes a lot 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,719 more filling and inspiring when you show people not just 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,840 how to hit it a little bit better or putter 79 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:08,400 chit better, but you show them how they can incorporate 80 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:11,039 some of these other ideas using golf as a vehicle, 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,240 and it doesn't only improve their performance on the course, 82 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:15,840 but it also really improves it off the course as well. 83 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:18,600 So it's sort of more fulfilling for me and it's 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,199 more fulfilling for them, and it keeps me excited about 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,680 going to work each day and the possibilities that exist 86 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,959 within this vehicle that we call golf instruction. 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,199 Speaker 1: And this past summer, I want to catch up. It's 88 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,879 been a while since we've spoken, and we'll talk about 89 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,279 the individual elements of your integrated approach. But I think 90 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:38,319 this is going to lead us to that this past summer, 91 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:42,639 you were running the Nike Junior golf camps down in Monterey. 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,319 How did that go? 93 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: It was absolutely fantastic. We were there for us six weeks. 94 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,639 We entirely sold the program out. We had a waiting 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,319 list about sixty kids deep. And you know, it's not 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,000 too bad being down there in Pebble Beach right in 97 00:04:57,079 --> 00:05:00,480 the middle of the summer, whereas an Arizona sweating my 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:00,920 butt off. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,199 Speaker 4: So I've been involved with. 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: With Nike golf schools and junior camps for about ten 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,560 years now. Actually, all the golf camps and football and basketball, baseball, soccer, 102 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,519 anything that has a swoosh on it's actually run by 103 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:16,680 a company out of San Raphael, near your area. 104 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Called US Sports are known as San Rafel. 105 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: I guess so right, thanks for the correction. 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's like you don't want to say Frisco. 107 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:27,720 You got to call it San Francisco. It's you know, 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,800 when any of you hear is San Raphael, you know 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,800 they're from out of town San Rafel. 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm from Lancaster, PA, which most people 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,120 think is Lancaster, which is certainly not correct. 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: So well and actually in southern California it is Lancaster. 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they're wrong. 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,199 Speaker 3: But I've been involved the company for a long time 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,959 and last year around this time, they named me their 116 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,240 national director of Instruction for the golf schools in the camp. 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,399 So my first order of business was to really try 118 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,600 and do the best job hossible, trying to run what 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,000 we think is a world class experience, you know, in 120 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:06,800 the Pebble Beach area. So you know, we've had kids 121 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,360 that come from from all over the globe. It was 122 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:11,040 so cool to see the kids show up and the 123 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,680 parents shop, and you know, kids from Korea and China, 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,319 and we had a kid from Russia and a kid 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,240 from from Kuwait. And then I asked the kid from Kuey. 126 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,000 I said, how in the world did you find this company? 127 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 7: Said, you know, Google online, Sure, online, but I mean, obviously, uh, 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,720 you know the name Pebble Beach, the area of Pebble Beach, 129 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:33,639 it's it's you know, it's it's synonymous with excellence and 130 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:35,199 excitement and the best golf in the world. 131 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: So even though we don't actually play Pebble Beach. We 132 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:40,160 do play a lot of Pebble Beach properties. We play 133 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:43,519 Spanish Bay and Spyglass, and we played Delmani. We also 134 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:45,680 take the kids to Poppy Hills, which is not owned 135 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,040 by the Pebble Beach Company, but it's within that del 136 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,720 Moni force, so you know, it's great golf. We put 137 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:53,160 together one heck of a staff. I was very lucky 138 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,439 to uh to get so many great coaches to come 139 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:56,639 out and work with me, and I think it had 140 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:58,639 a lot to do with the fact that the camps 141 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,759 had a great reputation, but also that area is so 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,439 charged with positive energy and everyone. 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: Had a great time with it. 144 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,079 Speaker 1: Amazing. Is this an exclusive camp? I mean, do these 145 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:15,120 kids have to try out audition to get involved now? 146 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Not at all. 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: Actually, if they just go to US Sportscamps dot com 148 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,600 forward slash Golf, they can actually search not only the 149 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:25,160 Peddle Beach camps, but up to seventy nine other locations. 150 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:28,160 We're run camps like this throughout the country and there's 151 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:31,000 different skill levels. We have the regular camps, which are 152 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,839 open to all abilities ages ten to eighteen, and then 153 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:37,279 we have the advance camps in the literary ture. We'd 154 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:40,680 like to have the advanced campers be passionate about the game. 155 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,279 They're going to hit a lot of golf balls, They're 156 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:44,240 going to be doing a lot of walking. So if 157 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:46,680 they're playing on high school golf teams, if they have 158 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:50,759 that mindset towards maybe playing in college someday, it's important 159 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,000 that they're honest with where they are. 160 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: Because when they show up, they're going to get a 161 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:55,720 lot of golf. 162 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: So if there's a parent out there that says, I'm 163 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,120 just going to put them in the advanced camp so 164 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:03,600 much that the instruction is any different, because the coaching 165 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,519 staff is the same for both weeks, it's just that 166 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,800 the environment's a lot more more intense. So if your 167 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:13,199 child is just getting involved with the game and you 168 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,199 throw them in there with a bunch of, you know, 169 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:17,560 stud high school athletes, they might not have a very. 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: Good time because they're going to feel like they're way 171 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:20,040 behind the curve. 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: So it's just important that you know, kids and parents 173 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:24,920 are honest with their ability level and realize that no 174 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:27,600 matter what camp they go into, the coaches are the same, 175 00:08:27,959 --> 00:08:30,160 and the coaches are trained to give the kid exactly 176 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,680 what they need based on their skill level. 177 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: I love when you mentioned they're honest about what their 178 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:41,919 game is. And that is not exclusive to child golfers, 179 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,679 to young golfers, junior golfers. I would think for all 180 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 of us. Is that something that you do with each 181 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,799 of your students, You talk about or you try to 182 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:52,639 get them to be honest about where their game is. 183 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I try and get them to be honest about 184 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,039 where it is, but I also try and get them 185 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:01,080 to be honest or authentic about where they'd like it 186 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:04,320 to go. You know a lot of people they come 187 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,000 in for a lesson, and you know, only only ten 188 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:12,679 percent of golfers, for it, take golf lessness. So's there's 189 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:15,600 ninety percent of people that play golf out there that 190 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:20,399 are not actively engaging in a coaching environment, whether it 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 be in person or online. 192 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,159 Speaker 1: And isn't it only ten percent of golfers ever break 193 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:25,639 one hundred. 194 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,159 Speaker 3: I don't know those numbers, but yeah, it's a hard game. Yeah, 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,039 it is very is a very hard game. So every year, 196 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,320 just as many people that get turned on by the game, 197 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,039 they get they get turned off by the game. So 198 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,720 it's really up to us as coaches in an industry 199 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,480 to get people excited about their games and excited about 200 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:46,720 this experience that we call golf, and to find ways 201 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,639 that make them want to stick with it, and the 202 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,320 fact that the game is so hard. 203 00:09:51,639 --> 00:09:53,159 Speaker 4: Is a little bit of a challenge, you know. 204 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: I've always kind of liked this idea that if I'm 205 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 going to try something and I'm going to stick with it, 206 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,080 I want to be mediocre fast, you know what I mean, 207 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,639 I'm going to put some skis on my feet or 208 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,039 strap on a snowboard. If I'm falling down the mountain 209 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,919 all day, then the next day, you know, I'm going 210 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,440 to figure out something else to do. 211 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: That, you know, is a little bit encouraging. And the 212 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,200 same thing with golf. 213 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:19,399 Speaker 3: If you're missing it and losing balls and it's taking 214 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,240 you forever and you're just not having a good time 215 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:23,759 with it, then why would you come back? So it's 216 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:25,840 really up to coaching to be able to reveal to 217 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:29,519 people very quickly how good they can actually be. And 218 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:32,240 when people start to get a taste of what it's 219 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,679 like to have success, they want to come back for more. 220 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:37,679 And once you do that, you can sort of out 221 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,519 inline what the journey is going to be like, you know, 222 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:41,720 there's never going to be a day when you say, hey, 223 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:43,159 I absolutely. 224 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: Have it and you have it forever. 225 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: You see with tour players, you know, one day they 226 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,879 go out and shoot sixty two. 227 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,759 Speaker 4: The next day they go out and they miss the cut. 228 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: So it's all about embracing the challenge associated with the game. 229 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 But very early on people have to have that taste 230 00:10:57,279 --> 00:10:59,679 of success. And as it relates to the people that 231 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:01,320 are already involved with the game. 232 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,759 Speaker 4: You know, Fred, about. 233 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: About seventy percent of my clients are from from outside 234 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,879 of Arizona, which is which is an amazing thing. 235 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,639 Speaker 1: And really incredible because you know, there's so many golf 236 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,759 instructors who are struggling to get any clientele at all, 237 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,120 let alone have them from out of town. I mean, 238 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:20,720 you said only ten percent of golfers take lessons. 239 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is that a lot of that 240 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,840 was due to very active in social media, you know, 241 00:11:25,879 --> 00:11:27,720 as you know, I've got my YouTube channel at almost 242 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:28,519 five million views. 243 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 7: Now. 244 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: Right before we got on the phone, I talked about 245 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,000 two clients that I've actually secured my services to fly 246 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,399 to Sydney, Australia and spent about two weeks coaching then 247 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,720 down there. 248 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:40,919 Speaker 1: But the thing, did they discover you on YouTube? 249 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 8: Is that? 250 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: Is that how they found you? 251 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 252 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:43,799 Speaker 4: They sure did. 253 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,399 Speaker 3: Wow found me on YouTube and they came out here 254 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:50,120 the last two years and spent about a month working 255 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,559 with me, and then this year they just decided to 256 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,360 stay in Sydney and offer me a trip out there. 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,559 I've never been before. We had talked about doing something 258 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,000 special down there, So we're going to go out there 259 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:01,519 and coach them up a little bit, get they'm ready 260 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:03,559 for the tournament season, but also try and meet some 261 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:06,480 of their other fellow tour pros that they work with, 262 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,000 and also maybe meet some business contact and see if 263 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,519 we can't do something on more of a regular basis. 264 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:14,720 But the thing is that, you know, people have, you know, 265 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:18,799 different experiences with coaching, and when somebody gets on an 266 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,320 airplane to come out to see me, a lot of 267 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,600 times they're looking at. 268 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,519 Speaker 4: Me as sort of their last resort, so to speak. 269 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:30,039 Speaker 3: They've been frustrated with the game for whatever reason in 270 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,240 their local market, they hadn't been able to make that turn, 271 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,720 so to speak, and they come out to see me 272 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:38,080 because they're looking for an answer, you know, and if 273 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,440 they don't get an answer, their enjoyment for the game 274 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:43,720 is probably going to be extinguished. 275 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:45,279 Speaker 4: You know, so I take a lot of. 276 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 3: You know, care and time into trying to come up 277 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,320 with a plan that's going to get them excited about 278 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,879 their game again. And that comes down to very quickly 279 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,279 showing someone, you know, how they can hit it better 280 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,919 than they ever hit it before in a short period 281 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,600 of time. Or make that one swing change that you 282 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,399 know they've worked on for years and they hadn't been 283 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:07,279 able to change, and all of a sudden, wham, you know, 284 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,559 in fifteen minutes they see it. 285 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:08,759 Speaker 7: You know. 286 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: That's the thing that's exciting to me. And once I 287 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:15,519 get people believing in themselves, then it's really easy to 288 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:18,519 start introducing them to some of these other components that 289 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,720 we call the integrated approach. You know, so if somebody 290 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:23,600 comes back, you know, a year from now and they go, 291 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,399 you know what, you know, I won my club championship, 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,399 but I also lost twenty pounds. You know, those kind 293 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,679 of those kinds of things come from, you know, and 294 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:35,639 that one experience in the golf performance aspect of things, 295 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,120 and you know, as it relates to this whole integrated approach, 296 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:41,559 it's it's golf performance it's mindset, it's fitness, it's nutrition. 297 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,399 But people out there have to realize that I'm not 298 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,080 the mindset expert, and I'm not the fitness expert, and 299 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,799 I'm not the nutrition expert. I have a team of 300 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,879 people around me that fill that role. But but my 301 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,679 whole expertise is golf performance. I'm just using that lesson 302 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,440 experience that time there to be able to do the 303 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,759 best I can do to help them make the turn 304 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:03,639 with their ball striking. And then from there, if they 305 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:05,600 want to dabble and get involved with some of my 306 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,639 other coaches in my network, as I hope they do, 307 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,679 then I think that they're primed for an amazing experience. 308 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold you to these numbers, but 309 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,360 when you say only ten percent of golfers take lessons. 310 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,960 Of that ten percent, how many do you think take 311 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:29,720 more than one lesson? I mean, is it a lot like, Oh, 312 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,639 I'm going on vacation this week, I need a lesson, 313 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:34,000 and it's like the only time they ever take a lesson. 314 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,679 Speaker 4: Well, boys, it's hard to say. 315 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm actually a member of this business group called the 316 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,840 Proponent Group. 317 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:41,919 Speaker 4: It's actually run by a. 318 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,879 Speaker 3: Gentleman named Lauren Anderson who used to be with a 319 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:44,960 golf magazine, Preeer. 320 00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: So he throws out. 321 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,759 Speaker 3: These stats all the time to us as members because 322 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:51,159 we need to learn about the market that we're dealing 323 00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:54,480 with as coaches and what opportunities exist. So I don't 324 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:57,759 know what that answer is, but after this conversation, I'm 325 00:14:57,799 --> 00:14:59,519 going to ask him what that is, because you're right, 326 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,759 some people might go out for that one lesson and 327 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:03,759 be totally turned off. 328 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:05,559 Speaker 4: This is way too hard. I didn't get it. I 329 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,639 did better before I even showed up. 330 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:11,159 Speaker 3: Whereas another segment of the population might have that great 331 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,879 coaching experience where they want to develop something that's more 332 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:17,399 personal and ongoing with more of a game plan. 333 00:15:17,879 --> 00:15:18,919 Speaker 4: And you know we've talked. 334 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:20,639 Speaker 3: About in the show before that there's two different kinds 335 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:22,960 of lessons, right, we said, there's corrective lessons and there's 336 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,360 developmental lessons. And the corrective lesson is when you know, 337 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,279 Fred Green shows up on my lesson team when he's 338 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:30,879 on vacation and says, you know, hey, Jeff, I am 339 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,240 slicing it out of balance. 340 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,879 Speaker 4: Can you help me because. 341 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:36,639 Speaker 3: I had to play the Raven Golf Club Phoenix tomorrow 342 00:15:36,679 --> 00:15:38,000 and I want to play really well. I've been looking 343 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:40,080 forward to this. I mean, that's a corrective lesson and 344 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:43,320 one can I get your ball in between the trees. 345 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,759 The developmental lesson is when you come out and you say, hey, Jeff, 346 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:48,919 you know I'm a ten handicap, I want to play 347 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,159 like a five, or I want to play like a 348 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:52,399 stretch or I had this goal to win the club championship. 349 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: You know, that's more of an ongoing relationship. 350 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: So from a coaching perspective, you've got to be able 351 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,240 to show people the light, you know, very quickly in 352 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,720 both of those circumstances. Otherwise you're not going to be 353 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,399 able to get them to number one, enjoy the game 354 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:09,279 if it's corrective, or even come back to the game 355 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:10,200 if it's developmental. 356 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:16,799 Speaker 1: What I'm curious to know when when somebody comes to 357 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,639 you most of the time, are they just saying, I 358 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,320 just need to be consistent, you know? Is that what happens? 359 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,279 It's because that's what I hear a lot on the 360 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,360 golf course. God, if I was only consistent, I'd be 361 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,960 so much better. It's like, really, you think that's all 362 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,440 it takes? 363 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:36,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sometimes they say that, and sometimes as you say, well, 364 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,679 let's just you know, remove the good one and then 365 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:43,559 you'll be consistent. We'll just take that nice powerful draw 366 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,519 out of the mix and then then all will be 367 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,159 rolling along the ground like like you've been hitting here. 368 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,440 But you know, sometimes they say that, I mean that 369 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:53,679 that's sort of the cliche thing to see because you know, 370 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:55,559 they feel like, you know, they have the ability to 371 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:58,399 hit quality shots, but they can't do it consistently. 372 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,639 Speaker 4: You know, another thing that happens with my clients a lot. 373 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:04,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been very blessed that the majority of 374 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,880 my clients, I mean they have what I would call 375 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:09,240 a high golf IQ And to me, that means that 376 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:12,680 they're they're into the game. They practice multiple times per week, 377 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,480 they enjoy playing in events at the club. You know, 378 00:17:16,519 --> 00:17:19,079 they're on YouTube and E golf, DIYED disc magazine. I mean, 379 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,920 they are they're in it to win it, and they've 380 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,240 been searching for for something. And you know, because everyone 381 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:27,200 has phones now that that have cameras on them, people 382 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,200 have seen their golf swings and they know what they 383 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:30,799 want to work on. 384 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 4: They just don't know how to how to fix it. 385 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: So when people come to my lessons, a lot of 386 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,000 times they're in many cases playing with or practicing with 387 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,799 very good relevant ideas. 388 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,759 Speaker 4: You know, so they're not entirely lost, so to speak. 389 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:48,160 It's just that they don't know how to how to 390 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:48,920 make that change. 391 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: So in a coaching environment, it's my job to stretch 392 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:57,519 the player mentally and physically, uh to the degree that's 393 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:00,119 necessary for them that actually make that change. Now, in 394 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,160 some cases I have to present the entire entire plan 395 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,640 to it, but it's kind of nice when a client 396 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,200 comes in and they're halfway there and you show them 397 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,440 that for them to accomplish their goal, or they're really 398 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,319 not that far away. 399 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,559 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw a curveball in this conversation because 400 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,240 it occurs to me that and I'm definitely guilty of this. 401 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 How do you know that you have the right coach? 402 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:27,079 What is it that we should be looking for or 403 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,279 how do we find a coach that works for us? 404 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: The way that you know you have the right coach 405 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:40,200 is that in that first lesson you should get better immediately. 406 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,440 And that's putting a lot of pressure on coaches out there, 407 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,640 But I'm telling you, if you take a golf lesson 408 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:48,759 and the coach patch you on the back and says, 409 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:50,960 don't worry, Fred, you're going. 410 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,279 Speaker 7: To get it. 411 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: You're not okay, because if you can't do it when 412 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:56,440 the coach is there, there's no way you're going to 413 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,359 figure it out on your right. Now. 414 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that you have to hit perfect shots, 415 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:00,279 but what you have. 416 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: To be able to do is see contact in ball 417 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920 flight and results that are that are way different than 418 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,799 you've had before, and if they're not perfect, in some 419 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,559 way much much closer to what you're looking for. So 420 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:16,079 if your issue is you hit the ball off the 421 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,400 toe and you take huge dibts and you slice the 422 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,400 ball to the right every time, if that's your pattern, 423 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,599 at some point that lesson you should have a shallow, 424 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,799 a centered hit and a ball that curves the other way. 425 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:28,599 You know, if you see that that difference in flight, 426 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,960 that's more to your liking, you know, then you can 427 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,279 look at your coach and say, hey, you know you're 428 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:33,799 onto something. 429 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:35,279 Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and stick with you in 430 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:35,880 the program. 431 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: But if you keep on seeing the same result, it 432 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,480 means that the game plan is an accurate or the 433 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:44,920 coach doesn't know how to stretch your mind and stretch 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,440 your by to the point where you can actually make 435 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:48,559 make that change. So I always tell people when they 436 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:51,400 come out to my lesson, tee, you have a certain 437 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,519 level of expectation, but I guarantee you that that my 438 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,559 expectations of the learning environment and the results we're going 439 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:00,559 to get are even higher. So I don't try and 440 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,559 diminish someone's expectations. I try and increase their expectations, and 441 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:06,000 then as a coach, make sure I deliver. 442 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,319 Speaker 1: And it's okay if we walk away from a lesson 443 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 that there was no moments of okay, I got it. 444 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,279 That we should try other coaches. 445 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,079 Speaker 4: Well, I mean people that they shouldn't. 446 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,079 Speaker 1: Worry about hurting their feelings right. 447 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is when people want to try on 448 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:28,160 the coaches if they haven't seen any results, you know, 449 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,319 and the results could be you know, it looks better. 450 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,359 You know, I'm not reverse pivoting anymore. I'm finally getting 451 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,079 my way to my front foot. My swing plane is flatter, 452 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,240 like I mean, it's got to look better and perform better. 453 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: But you know it's going to be a journey. 454 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: I mean. 455 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: The thing is that I expect people to improve immediately, 456 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,119 but that doesn't mean that they are going to be 457 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,400 granted with immediate ownership over the new skill level. 458 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,079 Speaker 8: You know. 459 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: So here's the whole thing. 460 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you can change your ball flight right now, 461 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:56,759 but to go to the first t and the second 462 00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:59,519 team and thirteen own that ball flight, I mean that's 463 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:02,640 going to take you know, patience, will and discipline. It 464 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,640 means you've got to go out there and you got 465 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,160 to put in, put in the time. 466 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: And I've had. 467 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: You know, clients come in and say, you know why 468 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:13,640 I should be I practice all the time. You know, 469 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,039 I should be able to repeat this, you know, I 470 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,200 should be able to you know, to hit a bunker 471 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,920 shot or a pitch shot, or hit a t shot 472 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,119 like Tyer Woods. I mean I have people say that, 473 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,680 and I say, you know what if you told about 474 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,680 the Tiger woodsy, you punch you in. 475 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: The face right now. 476 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,039 Speaker 3: Why Because he's one of the world's greatest athletes, and 477 00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:35,839 he spends about five thousand percent more time working on 478 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,599 his game then. 479 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:38,839 Speaker 4: And then you know why in the world would you 480 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,000 deserve to hit it like him? 481 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: You know, he puts all that time in. So we 482 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:44,680 talked about this before. You know, golf's not about who 483 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,799 hits the best. It's about who misses it the least 484 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,160 people have to understand that in a coaching environment, if 485 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,640 you're open, you are going to perform at a much 486 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,079 higher level, and you should do that immediately. 487 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 4: But to own it and take it to the core and. 488 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Stand there with you know, half the people in your 489 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,920 club membership looking at you, you know, while they're holding 490 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,440 their mint julips, and rip it down the fairway just 491 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,759 like coaches there. It's not going to happen until you 492 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,519 deserve to have it happen. And that comes through that journey. 493 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,200 And that's why golf is exciting because you know, it 494 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480 takes a lot of hard work to play at a 495 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:22,759 high level. It doesn't take a lot of hard work 496 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,400 to experience great ball flight, but it takes a lot 497 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,039 of hard work. 498 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,799 Speaker 4: To own that ball flight. 499 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,519 Speaker 1: Now, let's get back to the integrated approach and the 500 00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:40,039 different elements of it that requires more than one lesson 501 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,480 or does that get all tied together when you meet 502 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,079 with somebody on that first day. 503 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: Well, I mean when people come out to see me 504 00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:48,720 for a lesson, they're coming out, you know from my 505 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:52,880 time personally, which is dedicated to that area of golf performance, 506 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:56,160 which is the technical aspect of what we're trying to 507 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,279 do in terms of creating. 508 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: A game plan. Now, as they learn more. 509 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,599 Speaker 3: About my brand and what I do, you know, then 510 00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:05,839 of course they can schedule additional time with a nutritionist, 511 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,440 or they can schedule time, you know, outside of the 512 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,519 lesson to go over and work with our fitness team 513 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,960 or mindset coaches. So you're going to have to be 514 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:17,519 willing to commit to spending some time outside of the 515 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:21,079 lesson if you want that in person experience. But although 516 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,319 the writing that I do, the stuff I do on YouTube, 517 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,839 the stuff that's on my blog, it has valuable points 518 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:28,559 of directions, so to. 519 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 4: Speak, for all of these things. So I want people 520 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,759 to be able to kind of see. 521 00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:33,599 Speaker 3: What my brand is all about, to be able to 522 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,880 read something or see something on video and start to 523 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,480 put it into their lives. And if they really want 524 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,720 to get deep into it, then of course they can 525 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,759 engage in that one on one interaction with a part 526 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:44,720 of my performance team. 527 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: I recently received an email from you about your new 528 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,599 initiative called make the Turn, and is this all part 529 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,160 of your integrated approach and explain it please? 530 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: It is it is make the Turn. 531 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: It's really a it's a high performance lifestyle based initiative, 532 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,640 you know, to try and get people excited about the 533 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,519 game and to get people in position to experience you know, 534 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,319 great success and amazing things. You know, in all these areas. 535 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,079 Golf performance mindset fits nutrition. So when you make the turn, 536 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,960 it's when that level of possibility is revealed to you 537 00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,559 and you feel like it's it's attainable. You know, it's 538 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:30,720 when people are authentic with their desires. We've used that 539 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,359 word before, but they realize that those desires are also 540 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,960 visible and within reach and those sometimes those are you know, 541 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,640 how we think, you know, throughout the day. 542 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:41,319 Speaker 4: Sometimes there are the. 543 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: Things that we eat and how they make us make 544 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,559 us feel. It's how strong and how flexible we are, 545 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,480 and you know whether or not we like walking around 546 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,000 or for a joint sort of back hurts. And of 547 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,359 course then it's going to the golf course and you know, 548 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,680 being able to see that ball sing through the air 549 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:57,519 and hint, the golf ball grade is the amazing feeling, 550 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680 you know, and the more you can do that, you know. 551 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 4: Level of enjoyment, entertainment goes up. 552 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,319 Speaker 3: So just trying to create a platform through this program 553 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,160 to get people dialed into this whole lifestyle based approach 554 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,000 to playing well and living well, and I really think 555 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,839 that they're very closely intertwined, and there's so many opportunities, 556 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 not only in a golf lesson or in a coaching relationship, 557 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,319 to be able to tap into some of these other 558 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,920 areas which are really powerful as well. So one of 559 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,039 the things that we're doing with the Turning Initiative to 560 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:29,799 get people really dialed in is we're going to have 561 00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:34,759 a fifty two week make the Turn Weekend challenge program 562 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640 and it's going to be done through Facebook. So once 563 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,279 we get all the challenges shot and dialed in, people 564 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,119 be able to go to my Facebook page, which is 565 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,839 jeffard or Golf, and on Friday, first Friday we start, 566 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,319 you'll have a performance based. 567 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:50,759 Speaker 4: Challenge in the area of golf performance. 568 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,759 Speaker 3: The next Friday it will be a mindset challenge, and 569 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:54,480 then it goes on to a fittest challenge and then 570 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:56,640 a nutrition challenge. So it's basically getting up in the 571 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,839 morning ford and seeing something in one of these four 572 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,039 area that's going to give you a sense of purpose 573 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,400 as you go to the golf course or as you 574 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,839 move throughout. 575 00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,279 Speaker 4: Your day and one of the things with golf. 576 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we've been talking about golf for 577 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,400 a long time, and golf's been in magazines on TV, 578 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,200 and you know, golf is all. 579 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: Just tips, tips, tips, and you know, as a coach, I. 580 00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: Started really getting tired about looking at something that's just 581 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,680 a tip that doesn't have any kind of purpose or 582 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,640 movement behind it. So what I'm hoping to accomplish with 583 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,960 this make the term challenge program is for someone to 584 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 engage in each challenge and then be able to start 585 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:37,519 seeing a positive change in their golf game, in their 586 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:42,240 thought processes, in their nutrition, in their their waistline, and 587 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,640 how their body feels, and at the end of the 588 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:48,519 year look back and say, Wow, that program got me 589 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,599 dialed and it was fun to participate in. And not 590 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,480 only do I play better, but I feel better, I 591 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,160 think better, and I'm glad that I participated in it. 592 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. What is the time commitment your and are 593 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,079 there report cards? I mean, how does that work? And 594 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,279 how much are we supposed to be doing each week 595 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,759 with each challenge? 596 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,079 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's a very low time commitment. 597 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: For example, a golf performance challenge might be as simple 598 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000 as if you're going to go to the range on Saturday, 599 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359 I want you to go ahead and complete this one 600 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,519 short game drill for example. Some will be more difficult 601 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,039 at some mobile bit easier, but it's not something where 602 00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:26,720 you have to spend all day doing it. It's just 603 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:28,680 going out there instead of just whacking balls, you know, 604 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,880 having some purpose behind what you're doing, and trying to 605 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,960 create a benchmark for your performance. If it's a fitness 606 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,519 based challenge, it's going to be something that you can 607 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:40,319 hop out of bed and do in your living room. 608 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:42,759 I'm not going to require people to go climb a 609 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,240 mountain or go join a gym or anything like that. 610 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,759 It's just the idea of creating momentum. And of course 611 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,759 with nutrition, you know stuff that you can look at 612 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,920 on a menu and make a choice that's a little 613 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,519 bit different than what you normally make at. 614 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: Your local clubs. 615 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: So you know, life is all about rating momentum. Anyone 616 00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:05,319 who's been involved with fitness or running or anything like that, 617 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,839 you know, once you get a little bit of momentum, 618 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,960 a little bit of steam in your engine, it's. 619 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 4: Amazing how much farther you can go. 620 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,799 Speaker 3: So this program is designed to get people started and 621 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,480 to build momentum slowly over time, so that the sum 622 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,160 of all the parts, so to speak, lead up to 623 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,799 a much greater hole which is hopefully exciting and inspiring 624 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,319 and gets people pumped to. 625 00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: Be involved in the game. That's all. 626 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm all about, is helping people get pumped 627 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,599 about their golf games. And because I've got this great 628 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,279 team of people around me, you know, we have the 629 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,640 ability to expand on that influence into these other areas 630 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,079 as well. 631 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm pumped, I'm ready. And when does this begin? At 632 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,880 jefferd or Golf. Got jefferd or Golf Facebook page, jefferd 633 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,480 of Golf Facebook page, and when does when's the first 634 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:52,440 challenge being issued? 635 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's going to be out. 636 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to get the deadline here too close 637 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680 because we've got the holidays coming up. But I've been 638 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,519 actively doing some video in some writing and putting the 639 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:02,279 challenges together. 640 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:02,799 Speaker 4: So we'll have. 641 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: About thirteen challenges in each category, but I would imagine 642 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,240 in the next six weeks you'll start seeing them there. 643 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,400 And one thing people can do is they can just 644 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,119 go to my Facebook page, which is jeffer Golf. Another 645 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,640 incentive form is fred, I'm giving away a pain Answer 646 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:22,079 driver this month, so going to give away pay Answer driver. 647 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,440 And it gave away one, We're going to give away 648 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,720 another one. So all they have to do is like 649 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:26,519 the page and they can actually register right there. 650 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and wait now, this is what you're talking about 651 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,480 November twenty twelve this month or October twenty twelve this month. 652 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: Well, actually we're going to give them away multiple months. 653 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,400 So if somebody enters today and they don't win the 654 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,839 next driver, they'll be enrolled to actually win either a 655 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,119 driver beyond that or another prize. They've actually got a 656 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:50,200 top secret sweepstakes giveaway in order, which is going to be. 657 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: It's going to be big. 658 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,279 Speaker 1: Fred Am I eligible to it. 659 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: I told you before if you want some one, man, 660 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,519 I think that would be possible. 661 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to talk about it anymore then, 662 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,200 so listen, here's what I would like to do. Because 663 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,079 we've hit our time limit for today because I want 664 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,160 to get to our score Zone Short Game Academy. But 665 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:20,319 here's can you come back? We'll do another episode next week, 666 00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:24,480 a members only episode, and can I drag out of 667 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:28,480 you a couple of these specific fifty two of your 668 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,240 not all fifty two, but a couple of the make 669 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:36,920 the Turn challenges for the next episode. Absolutely awesome. Okay, 670 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,079 So for Golf Smarter members, you will get to hear 671 00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,359 some of the challenges that Jeff's going to be providing 672 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,440 over the next fifty two weeks. So when he starts 673 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,000 and we will speak to Jeff on the next episode 674 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,920 and get some of these challenges. Okay, Jeffy All right? 675 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: Fred sounds good, can't wait. 676 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: It is time once again for the score Zone Short 677 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,799 Game Academy with our wedge Guy Terry Kaylor Hi. 678 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:12,079 Speaker 8: Terry, Hi Bred. How are you doing. 679 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,519 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, thank you. I just want to remind 680 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,319 all of our listeners that they can participate in this 681 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,240 segment of the show. If you have a question about 682 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,960 your short game, we invite you to go to Golfsmarter 683 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,559 dot com and click on the button that says score 684 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,839 Zone Short Game Academy and Terry along with his blog 685 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,559 the wedge Guy dot com. Is that what the u 686 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,240 r L is for your your blog? 687 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, it is. 688 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, he even addresses I've been reading the 689 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,119 Wedge Guy blog and I've seen some of the questions 690 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,200 that have come up on Golf Smarter on your blog. 691 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,440 Thank you very much for doing that. 692 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 8: Well, you know, people have questions. I want to provide 693 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,039 answers when I can. 694 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: And why not. And we actually have a question today. 695 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,680 This one comes from longtime Golf Smarter listener and supporter. 696 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,720 Thank you, Hugh Deandrade out of Summit, New Jersey, and 697 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,400 he it's a very simple question, but I think it's 698 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,119 a relevant one because I want this answer as well. 699 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,160 It is, Terry. You frequently speak of the release. Would 700 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,400 you please define and explain that term. 701 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 8: Well, I'd love to, Hugh, thanks for asking, because I 702 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:28,079 just out in Las Vegas last week and speaking to 703 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,920 a group of LPGA teaching professionals and we got into 704 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,200 a dialogue about proper release of the golf club and 705 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,480 they all agree this is one of the most misunderstood 706 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,759 parts of the golf swing. Is this thing we call 707 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:45,960 the release of the golf club and the working with 708 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,799 your short shots and your half swings, your chips and 709 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,000 pitches is the easiest place to learn the real proper 710 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,319 move and the release of the hands through impact because 711 00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:59,000 you're doing everything in slow motion and if you learn 712 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,559 it and you learn a proper release on your on 713 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:04,319 your short pitches and your half wedges. You can then 714 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880 migrate that if you will up into your short irons 715 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,599 and your middle arms and all the way to your driver. 716 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,400 The release of the golf club when we talk about that, 717 00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,839 is that the way the hands and the golf club 718 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,319 react through the impact zone, and that that magic moment 719 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,720 where the hands are moving from just behind the ball 720 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,039 to a head of the ball, and the clubhead is 721 00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,039 moving from well behind the ball to well in front 722 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:32,599 of the ball. It's very hard hard to do without video, 723 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,160 but I'll give it my best shot. You'll stand and 724 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,799 your listeners, if you'll take your club, your imaginary grip 725 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,200 in front of you and you're you're looking right down 726 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,200 at your thumbs, and if you'll roll it to where 727 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,119 the club would be pointing dead to the right, so 728 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200 the back of your left hand, if you're right handed, 729 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,359 is facing straight up in the air, and then roll 730 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,319 it to the left so the back of your right 731 00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,960 hand is facing straight up in the air. That is 732 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,839 the rotational release that has to happen through impact. It's 733 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,719 not really an unhinging. And we talk about cocking our 734 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,039 wrisks and releasing our risks. You're really not changing that 735 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:16,000 that break is changing in your swing. But the release 736 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,760 of the club is this rotational move from right before impact. 737 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,760 If you will, if you, I mean, everybody, get up 738 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,360 out of your chair and stand up. And I want 739 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,159 to show you this because I think if you take 740 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,440 your hand, your hands like an imaginary golf club, and 741 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,880 you rotate them to where the back of your left 742 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,800 hand is facing straight away from you and the club 743 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,280 is parallel to the ground facing to your right if 744 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,239 you're a right handed player, and then when you move 745 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,719 the hands about a foot down the target line, and 746 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,519 as you do, make a complete one and eighty rotation, 747 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,199 so that when you move a foot down the target line, 748 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,000 now your back of your left hand is facing straight 749 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,400 down and the back of your right hand is now 750 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,360 facing straight up. Do that back and forth cup. That 751 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:06,840 rotational move is the magic move through impact that magnifies 752 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,280 the power of the golf swing exponentially. It's the most 753 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,880 it's if they're to me, that was Ben Hogan's secret 754 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,599 that he never talked about. You heard it here first 755 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,679 time The wedge Guy reveals Ben Hogan's secret. 756 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,119 Speaker 1: That's the very first time that had Ben Hogan's secret 757 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,800 has ever been revealed on this show. 758 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,599 Speaker 8: Unbelievable from the wedge guy. So but Hogan talked about 759 00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,320 pronation and supernation and all this, but what he really 760 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400 meant is the rotate. And to me again, I said, 761 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,320 my opinion is this rotation of the hands. And if 762 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,760 you have a golf club in your hand and you 763 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480 do this, watch that I told you. You move your 764 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,599 hands one foot toward the target from just behind the 765 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,679 ball to just in front of the ball. But while 766 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,519 you do it, you do this full one hundred and 767 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:54,400 eighty degree rotation. While your hands move afoot, the clubhead 768 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,119 moves about eight feet and that is a huge magnifier 769 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,440 of power. It's an accelerator of your hands are moving 770 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,760 one foot and the clubheads moving eight foot. That's an 771 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,639 eight to one acceleration factor. And while you're doing that, 772 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400 you're rotating your body course, or your hands are rotating 773 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,320 and they're staying right in front of your chest. And 774 00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,519 you actually release your hands by releasing the body. And 775 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:27,400 you don't have to force this rotation, but let it happen. 776 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,199 But it's not an unhinging And if you get into 777 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,519 golf posture, I guess I'm have to get up out 778 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:33,920 of my chair like here all the rest of us. 779 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,599 If you get into golf posture, and you have this 780 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,159 imaginary glove or real club in your hand, if you'll 781 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,119 rotate your body in your hands together, but let your 782 00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,760 hands rotate so that the back of your left hand 783 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,639 is facing straight away from you and away from your body, 784 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,199 and the club is pointing directly behind backwards down the 785 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:56,679 target line, parallel to the ground. So if you can 786 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480 and you've maintained this angle between your forms and the 787 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400 golf club, and then just pull the heel of your 788 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,159 left hand from your right thigh across your left thigh, 789 00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,400 and at the same time rotate your hands so that 790 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,039 the back of your right hand is now facing away 791 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,679 from you as your hands past your left thigh, and 792 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,039 do that one hundred and eighty degree rotation of the 793 00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,599 golf club. The hands move a foot, and look how 794 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,679 far the golf club moves. The golf club moves from 795 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,519 pointing way back behind you to pointing right down the 796 00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,960 target line. So you've taken this three and a half 797 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800 foot golf club, and you've moved your hands a foot, 798 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,440 and you move that clubhead seven or eight feet there's 799 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,199 a huge magnification of power there, and that applies in 800 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,199 every shot in golf. And the hands don't unhinge, the 801 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,840 hands stay close to your body and doing this so 802 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,079 that your body core rotation can be faster, which is 803 00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,400 where all your power comes from. 804 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,159 Speaker 1: You know, as we record this, we're in the midst 805 00:37:55,199 --> 00:38:01,880 of the twenty twelve Major League Baseball postseason, and Terry's 806 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,400 from Texas. I'm from Bay Area and in my Oakland 807 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,480 areas kind of beat up on your Rangers and now 808 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:11,760 the Giants are doing well as well. But my point 809 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:16,599 is that with these super slow mo cameras that Fox 810 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,519 keeps using, I have noticed that when they show a 811 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,239 batter swinging the bat to hit the ball, the rotation 812 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,239 like you're talking about of his hands as the ball 813 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,719 as the back crosses the plate. Are you talking? Is 814 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,480 this the same thing? 815 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 8: It's similar. But if you look at when and as 816 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,400 all of your viewers watch golf on TV and watch 817 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,199 the destructional videos, really watch the pros with their short 818 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,320 clubs because they're moving slower. Everything's happening slower, and you 819 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,679 have a better chance of seeing it. But when you 820 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,960 get an opportunity to look down the target line. You'll 821 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,719 see a lot of times they'll have a camera angle, 822 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,360 even in the magazines, from behind the golf and looking 823 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,679 straight behind the golfer down the target line and look 824 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,039 at the address position and the impact position. If you 825 00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,800 can get fortunate enough to see these with a wedge 826 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,400 or a short iron in their hands, and their hand 827 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,400 are hanging. Their arms are hanging straight down from the 828 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,679 shoulder where the hands are in a very natural position. 829 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,360 I mean, they're just hanging. They're not pushed out toward 830 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,639 the ball. And as you take the club back and through, 831 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840 you want your hands to come right back through that 832 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,360 exact position, and so the club has to rotate and 833 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,760 maintain what I call the magic angle. And looking from 834 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,320 this position, the arm is hanging straight down, but then 835 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,400 it goes off at a sixty three or four degree 836 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,599 li angle to the golf ball, and that's just what 837 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,480 I call the magic angle, and that angle doesn't get straight. Now, 838 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:50,280 the more powerful swing you make, the more the centrifical 839 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,039 force of your body. Rotation is going to make your 840 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,760 arms swing away from your body a little bit. But 841 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,159 if you want to maximize the power of your golf 842 00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:01,800 swing consciously, think of keeping your hands close to your 843 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,079 body as you turn through impact and letting those hands 844 00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,679 kind of come across your thighs if you will back 845 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,039 through their address position, and you will find that you 846 00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:14,480 can swing easier and hit the ball harder than you 847 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:14,920 ever have. 848 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,559 Speaker 1: Phenomenal. Thank you very much. Great explanation. It really clarified 849 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,159 a lot for me, and now I have something to 850 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,679 focus on on that that on my short game swing there. 851 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,679 That's great. Thank you. All right, great question, Hugh, Good job. 852 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,679 Speaker 8: It was very good, Hugh. Thanks for asking that because 853 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,199 I love talking about this topic. I like showing people 854 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,400 this because it's the aha moment for most golfers when 855 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400 they really understand this concept of release. 856 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,559 Speaker 1: And over the last couple of shows, I'm sure that 857 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:49,320 people have realized. And please keep submitting your questions. And 858 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,320 your question, of course, may be something that's plaguing you 859 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,320 in your game, but just think about the fact that 860 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920 you're not the only one. And the type of questions 861 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,559 that Terry seems to be responding to are those that 862 00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,760 he knows he hears a lot from a lot of 863 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,199 different people. So your your question may be about your game, 864 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,719 but it also could be covering a topic for a 865 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,079 lot of people. So the little little hint there on 866 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,199 what to do? 867 00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,079 Speaker 8: Do you agree with that, sir exactly? There are millions 868 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,519 of golfers and there are dozens of problems, so everything, 869 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,719 every problem somebody has is shared by thousands of other golfers. 870 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,000 So please ask, please send it in. And there are 871 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,760 no stupid questions. There are only questions that don't get asked. 872 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: There you go. That's it for today, Terry, Thanks so much. 873 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,159 We'll talk to you in a couple episodes and hopefully 874 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,639 it'll be another question that will cover information for all 875 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:46,280 of us. 876 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,679 Speaker 8: Well, I look forward to it, Fred, and we'll talk 877 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,159 to you then.