WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:05.080 For members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty eight, 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.639 published on November twenty, twenty twelve. 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:12.759 Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:16.399 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:22.440 golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:27.320 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.920 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.439 If you're playing the right teas for your skill level, 9 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:35.799 in your distance, you're going to hit seventy eight to 10 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:38.880 seventy five percent of your shots inside nine iron range. 11 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:41.960 Do you give that seventy five percent of your practice time? 12 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:45.280 If not, that's one part of your problem now. Nineteen 13 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.240 forty nine, Ben Hogan in his books at the maximum 14 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.920 distance of a sandwich is forty yards. I was with 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.079 a group of golfers last night that reached from seven 16 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.679 to eighteen handicap, and the average person there said they 17 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:01.679 hit their sandwich routinely eighty and eight five yards. I said, really, well, 18 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.679 then you must be twice as good as Ben Hogan 19 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.000 using it is over forty What we have in our 20 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:10.359 bag that we call wedges our very short range golf 21 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.400 clubs twenty to twenty five yard golf clubs, but we 22 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.040 use them in a full swing environment today, So the 23 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.640 fact that you have distance control issues may not really 24 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:22.120 be your fault. It may be the tools is sus 25 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.159 bag because you're a new golfer. There's also some technique 26 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.159 and probably some time is used there, but the third 27 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.359 element of that is the tools. And if you don't 28 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.560 have the right tools in your bag, you're not going 29 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:35.079 to have good distance control. 30 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.480 More Score Zone Short Game Academy with Terry Kaylor. This 31 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:47.040 is Golf Smarter. 32 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:50.319 Each week we tap the best minds in golf to 33 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.400 help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice 34 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:59.400 in conversation with course pros, architects, authors, players, teaching gurus 35 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.480 and coaches. Is here's your host, Fred Green. 36 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:04.840 Welcome to Golf Smarter for members only. 37 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.039 Terry, Well, good evening. 38 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.759 It is a good evening, indeed, So here's the deal. 39 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.879 Usually Terry Taylor joins us for about ten minutes on 40 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:18.840 the regular Golf Smarter episodes. But I thought it would 41 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.439 be fun because we're getting so many questions in that 42 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.719 we can't answer all the time. I thought it'd be 43 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.680 fun to spend an entire members only episode with Terry 44 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:30.479 answering more of these questions. So here's the deal. 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You'll get one, 62 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:27.879 You'll pay for the shipping, and then you're going to 63 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.280 want to use your golf Smarter for members only discount 64 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:34.000 you're fifteen percent with the coupon code golf Smarter fifteen 65 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.120 to get discount and buy the whole set because it's 66 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.080 just going to change your game and you're going to 67 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.360 enjoy yourself so much more. Terry, is that fair? Is 68 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:43.240 that an okay way to do? 69 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:43.919 All? 70 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:48.599 Right? Well, then then it works. Okay. So We've got 71 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.520 four really interesting questions that I'd like to cover today. 72 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.639 See if we can do this, and we have as 73 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:55.280 much time as we want to do it, So I'm 74 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.919 going to go start right here. Let's do this one math. 75 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:00.240 Thank you. 76 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:05.120 Edter of Durham, North Carolina right and says, what is 77 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.800 the recommended approach for handling flyer lies around the green? 78 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:12.159 Great question? In my area, we have a lot of 79 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.439 Bermuda grasses and when cut high, there can be a 80 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.839 lot of space between the ball and the ground. Should 81 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.120 you still try to hit down on the ball to 82 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:26.319 impart spin? It seems to me, at least to him 83 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:30.319 to Matthew, that there's no way you're going to compress 84 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.959 the ball when it's sitting up so much. But trying 85 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.480 to scoop the ball with the ascending blow doesn't seem 86 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.600 like the right approach. Either, So what are the alternatives? 87 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.079 What are your suggestions? 88 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.600 Well, we played the Bermuda rough down here in Texas too, 89 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:48.040 so I'm very familiar with that. First of all, a 90 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.639 flyer lie, there's nothing you can do about that. The 91 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.839 ball is going to fly out of that lie. Its 92 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.199 sitting up in the Bermuda. You're going to get grasped 93 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:59.560 between the club face and the ball, which is going 94 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.759 to fill grooves on the club with grass, which is 95 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.360 going to make the club. It's kind of like your 96 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.279 car hydroplaning. That ball is going to hydroplane, so to speak, 97 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.639 off the face of that golf club because the grooves 98 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:11.920 are going to fill with grass. 99 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.680 Could you I'm sorry for interrupting, but can you explain 100 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.680 flyer lie? Because you know some of this inside baseball stuff. 101 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.319 Not everybody knows every term. 102 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.759 Okay, So, a flyer lies when the ball is sitting 103 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.000 kind of halfway up in the stems or blades of 104 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.199 the grass and the ball the bottom of the ball 105 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.279 is not really on the ground. The bottom of the 106 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.759 ball is above the ground and there's a grass around 107 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.040 the ball, so it's nestled in this grass. What happens 108 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.680 with the flyer lye what we call a flyer lie 109 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:47.279 is you cannot make crisp impact on the golf ball 110 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:52.040 because this grass around it. So when you hit that, 111 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:55.399 when you make impact at that fraction of a second, 112 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:59.519 this grass between the ball and the club face is 113 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.399 going to press into the grooves of the club fase, 114 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:06.240 so it creates an effect similar to when your car 115 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.800 hydroplanes on the highway. There is a loss of friction 116 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:14.279 there because this grass is between the club face and 117 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.240 the golf ball and the grooves i e. The tread 118 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.759 of the tires is now filled with material, so there 119 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.399 is not a coefficient of friction happening. So the ball 120 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:28.319 rockets off of the club face with a minimum of spin, 121 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.959 and you see one of two things happen. Either the ball, 122 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:37.000 which is kind of a quasi knuckleball, it either just 123 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:41.720 flies forever, or in a windy condition, you'll quite often 124 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.360 see the ball jump up in the air and then 125 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.959 just look like it's being thrown back to the ground 126 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.199 because it doesn't have underspin back spin to keep it airborne. 127 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:54.839 So you'll see one of those two impacts. In other words, 128 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.560 the effect of this is you don't know how far 129 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.759 that ball is going to go. How it's going to 130 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:06.240 stay airborne. There are some and a flyer lies is 131 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.199 the penalty of being in the rough. This is what 132 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:12.040 the whole USGA groove rule was about, is to penalize 133 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.120 you for hitting it in the rough. And with the 134 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.439 old hard edged square grooves, you could cut through that 135 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.160 material and still impart backsmen to the ball from a 136 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.079 flyer lie. And what the USGA watch I'm kind of 137 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.720 diverting here, but kind of what happened is the USGA 138 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:31.920 saw that there was a deteriorating relationship between hitting the 139 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.000 ball in the fairway and scoring because guys could hit 140 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.800 these square groove wedges as good out of the rough 141 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.560 as they could out of the fairway, and that took 142 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.439 away the premium of hitting the ball in the fairway. 143 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.399 So back to your flyer line, what happens is you're 144 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.279 going to get material between the club face and the ball. 145 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.759 You cannot pinch the ball into the turf. You can't 146 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.439 trap the ball or however you want to express that, 147 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:00.720 because the ball isn't sitting down on the turf, suspended 148 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:06.360 up in the stems and leaves of the grass. What 149 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.680 you have to allow for iss no matter how skilled 150 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.759 you are. This ball is going to jump on you 151 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.439 a little bit. This ball is not going to have 152 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.319 the spin that you would normally effect to have. So 153 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:22.079 if you've got this flyer lie and a close cut pin, 154 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.720 if there is trouble right behind the pin, your best 155 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.199 shot may be to play right or left of that flag. 156 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.120 Your best shot may be to allow for that ball 157 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.399 to hit short of the green and run on. One 158 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:39.840 of my favorite approaches to a flyer lie is to 159 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.159 take a lower lofted golf club and nine are and 160 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:45.480 even a pitching wedge where you have less loft, so 161 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:47.879 not as much of the club is going to go 162 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.559 under the ball, and play that ball to kind of 163 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.000 jump out of there with the minimum of spin and 164 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.200 bump and run it into the green. Even if it's 165 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.600 an eighty or ninety or one hundred and twenty yard shot, 166 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.120 play that ball with the lower lofted club, a softer swing, 167 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.720 and play that ball to release into the green. If 168 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.200 that green is protected by water or a big bunker, 169 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.840 this is a hole, maybe you need to consider, hey, 170 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.080 I'm not going to get this shot to stop, and 171 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.799 if there's trouble behind the green and trouble shark, maybe 172 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.080 this is a hole that I lay it up short 173 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:21.960 of the trouble into the fairway where I can then 174 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.519 nip a wedge in make sure I don't make worse 175 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.679 than bogie on the sole. No, not every hole is 176 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.679 a par hole. Not every hole as a birdie hole. 177 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.200 Some holes aren't even a bogie hole. This is where 178 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.879 reading your lie and knowing what you can expect to 179 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:40.679 be able to do out of that lie determine the 180 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.120 way you play the rest of that hole. Sometimes you 181 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:44.919 have to take your medicine in this game and go, 182 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.840 you know, I hit it over here in trouble, I'm 183 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:49.559 going to have to play this sole for no worse 184 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.080 than a bogie and still give myself a chance at 185 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.200 par Instead of saying I think I can pull this 186 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.039 shot off. I've never done it before in my life, 187 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.159 but I think I can pull it off this time, 188 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:01.320 and then you end up with a six or seven 189 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:01.720 or eight. 190 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:07.399 Practice. Don't try it for the first time when you're 191 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.039 on the course. 192 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.960 Practice Well, you know, it's like that holiday in commercial 193 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:13.960 and the guys you a surgeon. He goes, no, but 194 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.960 I did stay at a holiday in the press last night. 195 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.240 I think they're down here in the South. There's a 196 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.240 saying about the famous last words of a redneck, and 197 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:22.840 that's hole my beer and watch this. 198 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.200 Okay, I don't even know what happens afterwards. All right, 199 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.120 Well that was good. That was really interesting. It made 200 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:40.120 me think about on the last score Short Game Academy 201 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.679 that we did, and you were talking about keeping your 202 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.759 hands in front of on the short ones, keep your hands, 203 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.639 making sure that you keep your hands out in front 204 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.879 of the club. And I actually went out and played today. 205 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.399 I had so much fun. It's been so long since 206 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.600 I've had a chance to play a great five mile walk. 207 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.919 Just loved it. Anyway, So I went out in the 208 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:04.120 practice green before the round and I was working on 209 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.519 that shot I was working on. I was so excited 210 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:08.840 because I remembered what you said. I was working on 211 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.519 get my hands out in front of me, not gripping 212 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.440 too tight. And it all worked until I got on 213 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.440 the golf course and then I just wee right across 214 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:18.000 the top of the. 215 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.440 Green from the driving race to the golf course. That's 216 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:21.639 the longest trip in golf. 217 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.120 Well, let's work our way from the green backwards. Here's 218 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.679 the next question. This one comes from Matt McElroy. He 219 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:36.559 lives in Brentwood, New Hampshire and is a longtime Golf 220 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.000 Smarter listener. So I'm happy to ask your question, Matt. 221 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.519 And again, if we use it, you hear it, send 222 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.720 me an email saying you heard us, use it and 223 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.600 we'll put you in touch with the folks that score golf. 224 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:50.360 You can get your club and you just have to 225 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.039 pay for the shipping. So he wants to know how 226 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.480 do we know which scoring clubs? See that he even 227 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.039 put scoring club? This is how well he listens. That's 228 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.720 pretty good. How do we go, yo, Matt? How do 229 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:03.960 we know which scoring club to use? From the sand? 230 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.320 Are different types of sand a factor? 231 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.960 Well, you have two things when you're in a bunker, Matt. 232 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.480 There's two things you need to consider, and the first 233 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.559 thing is the texture of the sand, and the second 234 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.639 thing is how far do you want this ball to 235 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.000 fly and how do you want it to roll out? 236 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.240 So you know, it's the same thing the decision you 237 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.279 make in the fairway, whether you're going to chip the 238 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.159 ball to release and run or whether you're going to 239 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:30.679 try to throw it all the way back to the 240 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:35.279 flag with your lob wedge. Let's take the bunker texture first, 241 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.159 the softer the texture of the sand, the higher bounce 242 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.440 club you want to use. So if you're carrying three 243 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.279 or four scoring clubs, and in our world we have 244 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.120 this patented vesol that combines a high and a low 245 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.679 bounce into each club, but you still have some variances 246 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:57.320 on how much bounce it has. So know your golf clubs, Matt. 247 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.960 First thing, know your golf clubs, and if you're in 248 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.879 a very soft, fluffy bunker, take a club that you 249 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.600 can put more bounce into that you can lay the 250 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:10.360 club open. It increases the bounce and helps the club 251 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.840 reject out of that sand. If you're in a firm bunker, 252 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.600 maybe a rain last night or the sprinklers were running 253 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.919 and or just that particular golf course has tighter firm 254 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.159 or sand, then go with your lower bounce golf club. 255 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:29.120 There's really nothing wrong with hitting bunker shots with gap wedges, 256 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.840 even with your pitching wedge you're a nine iron. These 257 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.360 clubs have low bounce and you can lay the club 258 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.759 open still and get a little more bounce out of it. 259 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.600 But if you have a long seventy eighty ninety foot 260 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.559 bunker shot, don't grab your lob wedge and walk in 261 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.720 there and try to make a big, old hard swing 262 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:49.759 to fly it all the way back to that hole. 263 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:51.879 If you've got a lot of green to work with, 264 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.200 which typically you would on a long bunker shot, go 265 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:57.720 ahead and take that nine iron or pitching wedge and 266 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.440 lay the club open and make a softer swing where 267 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:03.360 if you catch it a little thin, you're not quite 268 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:05.840 so penalized. If you catch it a little heavy, you're 269 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:10.120 not quite so penalized. I'm a big believer that we're 270 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:12.679 all trying to play this game for a number and 271 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:17.240 look at your risk reward on any shot. And I 272 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.480 was just joking about the hole my beer and watch this, 273 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:22.200 but a lot of golfers play the game that way. 274 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.360 You know. I don't know if I can pull this off, 275 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.320 but I saw it in a cartoon once, or I 276 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.360 saw it on tour once. But you know, play within 277 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:33.159 your skill set. So firm sand go to your lower 278 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.159 lofted club. Longer shots, go to your lower lofted club 279 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.440 and give yourself the maximum margin of error and the 280 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:42.759 way to gauge the sand when you walk into the 281 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.960 bunk or feel it in your feet, you know, when 282 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.440 you set into a shot, if you feel like this 283 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.639 is pretty crusty, tight sand, and you step in there 284 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:53.639 and wiggle your feet a little bit and find that, hey, 285 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.440 there's a little crust, but it's real soft underneath. Don't 286 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.039 be afraid to go back out and get a different 287 00:14:58.039 --> 00:14:59.759 golf club, you know, get a club with a little 288 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.200 high bounce. Uh. Soft fluffy bunkers are the hardest bunkers 289 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.720 to play. That's why you never see them on the 290 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.480 PGA Tour. If you look at a PGA Tour, those 291 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.159 guys never get fried eggs, they never get buried lies. 292 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.159 They play firm, wet bunkers. Because you can spin the ball, 293 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:16.919 you can make the ball do a lot of stuff 294 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.080 out of that. Uh, most of us play much harder 295 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.480 bunkers than the PGA Tour players play. So don't expect 296 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:25.440 to hit bunker shots like they do. 297 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:27.000 Are you kidding me? 298 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.399 No? Absolutely. The PGA Tour has the standard for sand texture, 299 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.279 and that's why when we see on the PGA Tour 300 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:37.279 of the ball always flies into the bunker, his splashes 301 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.039 then releases over and they're they're firm, wet sand. And 302 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:44.879 that's the easiest bunker shot there is is firm wet sand, 303 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:46.720 you can spin the ball, you make it do all 304 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.080 kinds of things out of that, because that's about the 305 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.919 TV audience they want. They want to see these guys, 306 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:53.360 you know, knock the flags down. 307 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:57.120 Well, and I remember I've heard numerous times where they're 308 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.240 the announcers saying, well, he's going to try to hit 309 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.240 the bunker on this one, so it doesn't go hit 310 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.000 the green and bounce over right from it from a 311 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.720 far distance that they prefer to hit in the bunker. 312 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.360 Well, I know exactly what they're going to get. We 313 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.440 just talked about the flyer line, right. You don't get 314 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.480 flyer lives out of a bunker, right, And and these 315 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.720 tour players, I mean, and granted these guys have phenomenal skills. 316 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.720 They spend hours and hours and hours in bunkers, but 317 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.720 think of how good your bunker play would bleat be 318 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.159 if every bunker you ever went into from now on 319 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:32.919 was exactly the same m that's what they get. Yeah, 320 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:34.399 but they are the best player in the world. 321 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:39.240 Yeah, well of course can you And hey, here's blatant 322 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.440 plug for your your product line, but can you explain 323 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.120 more about VSOL technology because someone's I was showing off 324 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.159 the clubs today, as I do every time I'm on 325 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.120 the golf course, going oh, you got to check these out, 326 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.399 and we appreciate that absolutely, and I can get you 327 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.639 a discount and so and so it's someone says, well, 328 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.840 what's the uh, you know, what's the bounce on this? 329 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:07.319 And I was like, VS Soul patent did, I'm really what? 330 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.599 So can you help us that? Explain that? Again? 331 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.680 Well, in conventional wedges before we created the v SOL, 332 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.680 you have high bounce and low bounce wedges, and the 333 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.480 big manufacturers talk about high bounce is good for fluffy 334 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.720 lives and soft bunkers and low bounce is good for 335 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.960 tide lines and firm bunkers. Well, what we just talked 336 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.400 about is, you know, there's not a listener out here 337 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.240 has a clue what the next bunker lie is going 338 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.839 to look like, absolutely, and or what the next fairway 339 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:42.039 or roughly, so, I don't know what I'm going to 340 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:45.200 have for my next webshot, but I do know that 341 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.440 the wedge I have in my bag better be able 342 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.200 to handle it. And so we created this thing called 343 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.519 the v SOL And what it does is it takes 344 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.160 a low bounce in the main part of the soul 345 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.359 and compliments that with a very high bound in the 346 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.880 first quarter inch of the soul. So we essentially combine 347 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.440 a high bounce and a low bounce into each club 348 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.279 so that you never find a lie your club doesn't like. 349 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.440 One of our customers many years ago put it better 350 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.000 than I could ever put it, which kind of made 351 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.160 me mad because I'm a copywriter. But he said, it 352 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.920 lets me dial in exactly the bounce I need for 353 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.200 whatever line my ball finds, and that's really what you 354 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:28.839 need to do. You need to be able to dial 355 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.960 in the bounce our club like any other club. If 356 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.240 you lay it open, you increase the bounce. If you 357 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:38.440 square it up, you decrease the bounce. But within that framework, 358 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.799 we give you a wider range. So you can take 359 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.200 your fifty seven or fifty nine or fifty five degree 360 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.599 score and you can make it a low bounce wedge, 361 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:51.319 you can make it a high bounce wedge. You can 362 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.160 make it do what you want it to do. And 363 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:57.519 one of the other comments I always loved from a customers, 364 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:00.319 he said, my wedge just knows what it needs to be. 365 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:05.319 So I bet you like that comment, I mean, and. 366 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:08.799 That's the feedback we get. It's a different soul, it's patented, 367 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.599 it's different than anything you'll find in the store on 368 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.880 anybody else's wedge. I encourage all of your readers to 369 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.119 try it. If you don't like it, send it back 370 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.240 to us. That's always our guarantee. And I like that. 371 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.519 A shameless plug. No no, no, no to pay better go. 372 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:28.400 Now you're allowed to make shameless plugs, and the guarantee 373 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.480 is a huge one. Give me another five seconds on that. 374 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.000 Well, I mean, our whole thing is, we sell a 375 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.799 lot of clubs online. We're a young company. We don't 376 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.920 have a lot of distribution. You can find them in 377 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.160 most of the ED and watch stores now, but your 378 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.000 club probably doesn't have it yet. We haven't gotten out there. 379 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:47.799 So if you go online read about our golf club 380 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:49.920 and decide you like, you know, hey, this looks pretty 381 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.920 interesting to me, then buy one. Go play it by 382 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.200 a full set, Go play them, because what we've taken 383 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.559 is a full set approach to the short game. We're 384 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.640 not about sandwiches and lob wedges and gap wedges. We're 385 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.279 about the systemized approach to the short end of your set, 386 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:11.000 and we want you to be better inside nine iron range, 387 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.240 and we have built a set of golf clubs. That's 388 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.799 all we do is nine inron on In. We've been 389 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:18.880 doing and this is kind of an aside, but we've 390 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.920 been doing a very deep dive into PGA Tour statistics 391 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.160 and what we really are finding is is the difference 392 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.200 between the haves and the have nots on the PGA 393 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.440 Tour is not their long range performance, it's their short 394 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:36.400 range performance. It's a very interesting study that we'll be 395 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.400 publishing probably later this year or early next. 396 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:48.240 Well, I think that that's a really good lead into 397 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.039 our next question, and this one comes from Ron hampl 398 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.319 who's in Portland, Oregon. And let me say before I 399 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.799 read the question. Ron, listen, I've been playing golf now 400 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.319 well for about fifteen years, and I still consider myself 401 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.240