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Speaker 1: For members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty eight,

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published on November twenty, twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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Speaker 3: If you're playing the right teas for your skill level,

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in your distance, you're going to hit seventy eight to

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seventy five percent of your shots inside nine iron range.

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Do you give that seventy five percent of your practice time?

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If not, that's one part of your problem now. Nineteen

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forty nine, Ben Hogan in his books at the maximum

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distance of a sandwich is forty yards. I was with

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a group of golfers last night that reached from seven

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to eighteen handicap, and the average person there said they

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hit their sandwich routinely eighty and eight five yards. I said, really, well,

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then you must be twice as good as Ben Hogan

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using it is over forty What we have in our

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bag that we call wedges our very short range golf

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clubs twenty to twenty five yard golf clubs, but we

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use them in a full swing environment today, So the

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fact that you have distance control issues may not really

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be your fault. It may be the tools is sus

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bag because you're a new golfer. There's also some technique

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and probably some time is used there, but the third

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element of that is the tools. And if you don't

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have the right tools in your bag, you're not going

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to have good distance control.

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Speaker 1: More Score Zone Short Game Academy with Terry Kaylor. This

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is Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 4: Each week we tap the best minds in golf to

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and coaches. Is here's your host, Fred Green.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Golf Smarter for members only.

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Speaker 3: Terry, Well, good evening.

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Speaker 1: It is a good evening, indeed, So here's the deal.

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Usually Terry Taylor joins us for about ten minutes on

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the regular Golf Smarter episodes. But I thought it would

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be fun because we're getting so many questions in that

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we can't answer all the time. I thought it'd be

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fun to spend an entire members only episode with Terry

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answering more of these questions. So here's the deal. Usually

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on the Short Game Academy Score Zone Short Game Academy,

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the members only episode. The other element that we have

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to we have to throw in a curveball here is

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enjoy yourself so much more. Terry, is that fair? Is

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that an okay way to do?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 1: Right? Well, then then it works. Okay. So We've got

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four really interesting questions that I'd like to cover today.

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See if we can do this, and we have as

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much time as we want to do it, So I'm

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going to go start right here. Let's do this one math.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Edter of Durham, North Carolina right and says, what is

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the recommended approach for handling flyer lies around the green?

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Great question? In my area, we have a lot of

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Bermuda grasses and when cut high, there can be a

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lot of space between the ball and the ground. Should

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you still try to hit down on the ball to

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impart spin? It seems to me, at least to him

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to Matthew, that there's no way you're going to compress

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the ball when it's sitting up so much. But trying

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to scoop the ball with the ascending blow doesn't seem

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like the right approach. Either, So what are the alternatives?

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What are your suggestions?

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Speaker 3: Well, we played the Bermuda rough down here in Texas too,

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so I'm very familiar with that. First of all, a

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flyer lie, there's nothing you can do about that. The

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ball is going to fly out of that lie. Its

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sitting up in the Bermuda. You're going to get grasped

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between the club face and the ball, which is going

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to fill grooves on the club with grass, which is

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going to make the club. It's kind of like your

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car hydroplaning. That ball is going to hydroplane, so to speak,

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off the face of that golf club because the grooves

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are going to fill with grass.

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Speaker 1: Could you I'm sorry for interrupting, but can you explain

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flyer lie? Because you know some of this inside baseball stuff.

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Not everybody knows every term.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, a flyer lies when the ball is sitting

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kind of halfway up in the stems or blades of

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the grass and the ball the bottom of the ball

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is not really on the ground. The bottom of the

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ball is above the ground and there's a grass around

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the ball, so it's nestled in this grass. What happens

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with the flyer lye what we call a flyer lie

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is you cannot make crisp impact on the golf ball

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because this grass around it. So when you hit that,

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when you make impact at that fraction of a second,

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this grass between the ball and the club face is

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going to press into the grooves of the club fase,

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so it creates an effect similar to when your car

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hydroplanes on the highway. There is a loss of friction

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there because this grass is between the club face and

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the golf ball and the grooves i e. The tread

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of the tires is now filled with material, so there

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is not a coefficient of friction happening. So the ball

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rockets off of the club face with a minimum of spin,

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and you see one of two things happen. Either the ball,

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which is kind of a quasi knuckleball, it either just

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flies forever, or in a windy condition, you'll quite often

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see the ball jump up in the air and then

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just look like it's being thrown back to the ground

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because it doesn't have underspin back spin to keep it airborne.

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So you'll see one of those two impacts. In other words,

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the effect of this is you don't know how far

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that ball is going to go. How it's going to

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stay airborne. There are some and a flyer lies is

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the penalty of being in the rough. This is what

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the whole USGA groove rule was about, is to penalize

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you for hitting it in the rough. And with the

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old hard edged square grooves, you could cut through that

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material and still impart backsmen to the ball from a

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flyer lie. And what the USGA watch I'm kind of

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diverting here, but kind of what happened is the USGA

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saw that there was a deteriorating relationship between hitting the

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ball in the fairway and scoring because guys could hit

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these square groove wedges as good out of the rough

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as they could out of the fairway, and that took

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away the premium of hitting the ball in the fairway.

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So back to your flyer line, what happens is you're

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going to get material between the club face and the ball.

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You cannot pinch the ball into the turf. You can't

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trap the ball or however you want to express that,

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because the ball isn't sitting down on the turf, suspended

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up in the stems and leaves of the grass. What

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you have to allow for iss no matter how skilled

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you are. This ball is going to jump on you

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a little bit. This ball is not going to have

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the spin that you would normally effect to have. So

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if you've got this flyer lie and a close cut pin,

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if there is trouble right behind the pin, your best

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shot may be to play right or left of that flag.

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Your best shot may be to allow for that ball

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to hit short of the green and run on. One

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of my favorite approaches to a flyer lie is to

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take a lower lofted golf club and nine are and

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even a pitching wedge where you have less loft, so

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not as much of the club is going to go

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under the ball, and play that ball to kind of

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jump out of there with the minimum of spin and

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bump and run it into the green. Even if it's

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an eighty or ninety or one hundred and twenty yard shot,

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play that ball with the lower lofted club, a softer swing,

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and play that ball to release into the green. If

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that green is protected by water or a big bunker,

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this is a hole, maybe you need to consider, hey,

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I'm not going to get this shot to stop, and

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if there's trouble behind the green and trouble shark, maybe

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this is a hole that I lay it up short

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of the trouble into the fairway where I can then

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nip a wedge in make sure I don't make worse

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than bogie on the sole. No, not every hole is

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a par hole. Not every hole as a birdie hole.

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Some holes aren't even a bogie hole. This is where

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reading your lie and knowing what you can expect to

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be able to do out of that lie determine the

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way you play the rest of that hole. Sometimes you

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have to take your medicine in this game and go,

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you know, I hit it over here in trouble, I'm

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going to have to play this sole for no worse

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than a bogie and still give myself a chance at

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par Instead of saying I think I can pull this

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shot off. I've never done it before in my life,

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but I think I can pull it off this time,

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and then you end up with a six or seven

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or eight.

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Speaker 1: Practice. Don't try it for the first time when you're

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on the course.

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Speaker 3: Practice Well, you know, it's like that holiday in commercial

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and the guys you a surgeon. He goes, no, but

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I did stay at a holiday in the press last night.

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I think they're down here in the South. There's a

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saying about the famous last words of a redneck, and

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that's hole my beer and watch this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't even know what happens afterwards. All right,

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Well that was good. That was really interesting. It made

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me think about on the last score Short Game Academy

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that we did, and you were talking about keeping your

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hands in front of on the short ones, keep your hands,

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making sure that you keep your hands out in front

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of the club. And I actually went out and played today.

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I had so much fun. It's been so long since

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I've had a chance to play a great five mile walk.

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Just loved it. Anyway, So I went out in the

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practice green before the round and I was working on

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that shot I was working on. I was so excited

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because I remembered what you said. I was working on

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get my hands out in front of me, not gripping

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too tight. And it all worked until I got on

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the golf course and then I just wee right across

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the top of the.

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Speaker 3: Green from the driving race to the golf course. That's

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the longest trip in golf.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's work our way from the green backwards. Here's

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the next question. This one comes from Matt McElroy. He

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lives in Brentwood, New Hampshire and is a longtime Golf

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Smarter listener. So I'm happy to ask your question, Matt.

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And again, if we use it, you hear it, send

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me an email saying you heard us, use it and

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we'll put you in touch with the folks that score golf.

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You can get your club and you just have to

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pay for the shipping. So he wants to know how

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do we know which scoring clubs? See that he even

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put scoring club? This is how well he listens. That's

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pretty good. How do we go, yo, Matt? How do

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we know which scoring club to use? From the sand?

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Are different types of sand a factor?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have two things when you're in a bunker, Matt.

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There's two things you need to consider, and the first

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thing is the texture of the sand, and the second

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thing is how far do you want this ball to

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fly and how do you want it to roll out?

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So you know, it's the same thing the decision you

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make in the fairway, whether you're going to chip the

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ball to release and run or whether you're going to

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try to throw it all the way back to the

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flag with your lob wedge. Let's take the bunker texture first,

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the softer the texture of the sand, the higher bounce

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club you want to use. So if you're carrying three

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or four scoring clubs, and in our world we have

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this patented vesol that combines a high and a low

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bounce into each club, but you still have some variances

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on how much bounce it has. So know your golf clubs, Matt.

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First thing, know your golf clubs, and if you're in

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a very soft, fluffy bunker, take a club that you

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can put more bounce into that you can lay the

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club open. It increases the bounce and helps the club

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reject out of that sand. If you're in a firm bunker,

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maybe a rain last night or the sprinklers were running

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and or just that particular golf course has tighter firm

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or sand, then go with your lower bounce golf club.

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There's really nothing wrong with hitting bunker shots with gap wedges,

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even with your pitching wedge you're a nine iron. These

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clubs have low bounce and you can lay the club

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open still and get a little more bounce out of it.

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But if you have a long seventy eighty ninety foot

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bunker shot, don't grab your lob wedge and walk in

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there and try to make a big, old hard swing

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to fly it all the way back to that hole.

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If you've got a lot of green to work with,

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which typically you would on a long bunker shot, go

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ahead and take that nine iron or pitching wedge and

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lay the club open and make a softer swing where

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if you catch it a little thin, you're not quite

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so penalized. If you catch it a little heavy, you're

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not quite so penalized. I'm a big believer that we're

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all trying to play this game for a number and

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look at your risk reward on any shot. And I

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was just joking about the hole my beer and watch this,

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but a lot of golfers play the game that way.

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You know. I don't know if I can pull this off,

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but I saw it in a cartoon once, or I

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saw it on tour once. But you know, play within

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your skill set. So firm sand go to your lower

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lofted club. Longer shots, go to your lower lofted club

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and give yourself the maximum margin of error and the

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way to gauge the sand when you walk into the

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bunk or feel it in your feet, you know, when

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you set into a shot, if you feel like this

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is pretty crusty, tight sand, and you step in there

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and wiggle your feet a little bit and find that, hey,

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there's a little crust, but it's real soft underneath. Don't

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be afraid to go back out and get a different

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golf club, you know, get a club with a little

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high bounce. Uh. Soft fluffy bunkers are the hardest bunkers

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to play. That's why you never see them on the

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PGA Tour. If you look at a PGA Tour, those

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guys never get fried eggs, they never get buried lies.

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They play firm, wet bunkers. Because you can spin the ball,

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you can make the ball do a lot of stuff

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out of that. Uh, most of us play much harder

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bunkers than the PGA Tour players play. So don't expect

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to hit bunker shots like they do.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: No? Absolutely. The PGA Tour has the standard for sand texture,

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and that's why when we see on the PGA Tour

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of the ball always flies into the bunker, his splashes

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then releases over and they're they're firm, wet sand. And

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that's the easiest bunker shot there is is firm wet sand,

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you can spin the ball, you make it do all

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kinds of things out of that, because that's about the

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TV audience they want. They want to see these guys,

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you know, knock the flags down.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I remember I've heard numerous times where they're

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the announcers saying, well, he's going to try to hit

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the bunker on this one, so it doesn't go hit

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the green and bounce over right from it from a

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far distance that they prefer to hit in the bunker.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know exactly what they're going to get. We

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just talked about the flyer line, right. You don't get

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flyer lives out of a bunker, right, And and these

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tour players, I mean, and granted these guys have phenomenal skills.

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They spend hours and hours and hours in bunkers, but

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think of how good your bunker play would bleat be

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if every bunker you ever went into from now on

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was exactly the same m that's what they get. Yeah,

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but they are the best player in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course can you And hey, here's blatant

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plug for your your product line, but can you explain

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more about VSOL technology because someone's I was showing off

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the clubs today, as I do every time I'm on

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the golf course, going oh, you got to check these out,

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and we appreciate that absolutely, and I can get you

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a discount and so and so it's someone says, well,

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what's the uh, you know, what's the bounce on this?

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And I was like, VS Soul patent did, I'm really what?

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So can you help us that? Explain that? Again?

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Speaker 3: Well, in conventional wedges before we created the v SOL,

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you have high bounce and low bounce wedges, and the

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big manufacturers talk about high bounce is good for fluffy

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lives and soft bunkers and low bounce is good for

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tide lines and firm bunkers. Well, what we just talked

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about is, you know, there's not a listener out here

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has a clue what the next bunker lie is going

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to look like, absolutely, and or what the next fairway

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or roughly, so, I don't know what I'm going to

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have for my next webshot, but I do know that

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the wedge I have in my bag better be able

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to handle it. And so we created this thing called

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the v SOL And what it does is it takes

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a low bounce in the main part of the soul

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and compliments that with a very high bound in the

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first quarter inch of the soul. So we essentially combine

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a high bounce and a low bounce into each club

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so that you never find a lie your club doesn't like.

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One of our customers many years ago put it better

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than I could ever put it, which kind of made

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me mad because I'm a copywriter. But he said, it

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lets me dial in exactly the bounce I need for

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whatever line my ball finds, and that's really what you

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need to do. You need to be able to dial

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in the bounce our club like any other club. If

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you lay it open, you increase the bounce. If you

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square it up, you decrease the bounce. But within that framework,

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we give you a wider range. So you can take

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your fifty seven or fifty nine or fifty five degree

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score and you can make it a low bounce wedge,

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you can make it a high bounce wedge. You can

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make it do what you want it to do. And

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one of the other comments I always loved from a customers,

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he said, my wedge just knows what it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: So I bet you like that comment, I mean, and.

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Speaker 3: That's the feedback we get. It's a different soul, it's patented,

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it's different than anything you'll find in the store on

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anybody else's wedge. I encourage all of your readers to

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try it. If you don't like it, send it back

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to us. That's always our guarantee. And I like that.

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A shameless plug. No no, no, no to pay better go.

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Speaker 1: Now you're allowed to make shameless plugs, and the guarantee

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is a huge one. Give me another five seconds on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, our whole thing is, we sell a

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lot of clubs online. We're a young company. We don't

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have a lot of distribution. You can find them in

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most of the ED and watch stores now, but your

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club probably doesn't have it yet. We haven't gotten out there.

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So if you go online read about our golf club

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and decide you like, you know, hey, this looks pretty

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interesting to me, then buy one. Go play it by

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a full set, Go play them, because what we've taken

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is a full set approach to the short game. We're

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not about sandwiches and lob wedges and gap wedges. We're

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about the systemized approach to the short end of your set,

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and we want you to be better inside nine iron range,

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and we have built a set of golf clubs. That's

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all we do is nine inron on In. We've been

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doing and this is kind of an aside, but we've

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been doing a very deep dive into PGA Tour statistics

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and what we really are finding is is the difference

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between the haves and the have nots on the PGA

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Tour is not their long range performance, it's their short

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range performance. It's a very interesting study that we'll be

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publishing probably later this year or early next.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's a really good lead into

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our next question, and this one comes from Ron hampl

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who's in Portland, Oregon. And let me say before I

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read the question. Ron, listen, I've been playing golf now

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well for about fifteen years, and I still consider myself

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a new golfer. I learned stuff from these interviews that

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I'm like that are epiphanies for me that I'm like York.

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I never knew that, you know. So when you say

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I'm fairly new to golf, having taken the game up

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eighteen months ago, you're an infant. You know. There's just

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so much to It's true, there's so much to learn,

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and some of the stuff that you hear, but it

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takes years before you even get it. And that's the

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thing that I find so fascinating about this game is

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that I'm like, you know, I've heard it over and

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over and then I'm finally, Oh, that's what they meant,

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you know, that kind of stuff. So, anyway, this is

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Ron's question. He said, my play from tea to about

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one hundred and twenty yards or so is really coming

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along about seventy to seventy five percent driving accuracy. That's

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pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: That's what better anybody on tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what, I hate to break this

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to you, Ron, but if you make it, if your

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ball is not in the fairway and it's in the

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first cut, then you're not really you're driving.

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Speaker 3: Practicing your driver. You're as good as you're going to

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get game. Right.

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Speaker 1: So, he says, here's what's holding back my scoring back

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is what happens from inside one hundred and twenty yards.

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My short game distance control is all over the place.

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Why we'll adding a wedge or two to my sett

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at that end of my set make my distances any

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more accurate. In other words, he says, is my lack

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of consistency due to the skills of being a new

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golfer or incorrect club gaps. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Next question, so Ron, we're here to offer absolution tonight.

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It's not your fault. What happens is that the scoring

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range performance inside nine iron range inside eight iron range.

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I've created this little thing. I call it the scoring triangle.

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And on one side of the triangle is technique, and

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you have to learn a good technique for hitting short

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range shots. The cool thing about that is that if

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you learn a good technique for hitting short range shots,

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that same technique will help you hit mid range shots

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and long range shots. But the one side of the

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triangle is technique. Second side of the triangle is time.

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This is the bulk of your shots on the golf course.

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If you take your drives and your putts out, you're

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gonna hit seven. If you're playing the right teas for

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your skill level in your distance, you're gonna hit seventy

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to seventy five percent of your shots inside nine iron range.

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Do you give that seventy five percent of your practice time?

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If not, that's one part of your problem. The third

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side of the triangles you have technique, you have time

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The third side of the triangle is tools, and you

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have to have the right tools. And what we have

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in our bags today, I say we, I should say

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you guys have in your bags today because I've got

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score forty one sixty ones in my bag. So does spread? Yes,

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I do, and at about ten thousand other people, congratulations,

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thank you. But what you have in your bag and

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you can I can prove this to you photographically. I

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can prove this to you technically. You have these things

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that you've called wedges that have not changed in the

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waiting distribution and the basic design sixty years. I have

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in my collection of nineteen fifty vintage Vaulding tournament model

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that if I rechromed it and put slip graphics on it,

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you would swear it's the coolest new thing in wedge.

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It's got some really neat, nuanced grinds on it. But

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the essence of a wedge is that it has all

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the weight on the bottom of the soul and a

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very thin upper three fourths of the face, and that

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produces great disparity of ball performance off of the face

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of that golf club. So your distance control issues very

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well might be sixty percent technique seventy percent technique, but

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they may only be thirty percent technique because your new

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brand A brand, B, brand C. And I'm not gonna

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slam anybody looks just like your old brand, A brand, B,

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brand C, because they look like this nineteen fifty spaulting

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tournament model now nineteen forty nine. Ben Hogan and his

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book said the maximum distance of a sandwich is forty yards.

478
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,440
I was with a group of golfers last night that

479
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ranged from seven to eighteen handicap, and the average person

480
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,440
there said they hit their sandwich routinely eighty and eighty

481
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,000
five yards. I said, really, well, then you must be

482
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twice as good as Ben Hogan hit his over forty.

483
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,000
So the tool is not designed. What we have in

484
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,319
our bag that we call wedges are very short range

485
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,319
golf clubs, twenty to twenty five yard golf clubs, but

486
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,960
we use them in a full swing environment today. So

487
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,559
the fact that you have distance control issues may not

488
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,000
really be your fault. It may be the tools. I

489
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,359
suspect because you're a new golfer. There's also some technique

490
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,240
and probably some time issues there, but the third element

491
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,480
of that is the tools. And if you don't have

492
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,640
the right tools in your bag, you're not going to

493
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,960
have good distance control. And what we see happening in

494
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,079
golf is the companies are strengthening the losts of our irons.

495
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,319
You know, a pea club, as I call it, has

496
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gone from when I was in my twenties forty nine

497
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:35,000
or fifty degrees to in my thirties forty seven or

498
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,440
forty eight degrees. Now I'm sixty, and I see companies

499
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,359
making peak clubs of forty three and forty four degrees.

500
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,039
We're compressing the set by strengthening these short clubs, but

501
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,640
we're not giving you better tools to fill in those gaps. So,

502
00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:52,400
and I'll go back to this tool question. I had.

503
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A guy told me the day he got a new

504
00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:58,079
set of XYZ irons, and he said, they're unbelievable. He said,

505
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,960
I used to not be able to hit a pitching wedge,

506
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,839
but one point fifteen and I'm hitting my pitching wage

507
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,200
one twenty five now. And I said, really, well, what

508
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,680
do you hit when you're one hundred and fifteen yards

509
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,960
from the hole then, because you still need.

510
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: That shot, Yeah, you really do.

511
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,519
Speaker 3: They took that away from you. But what they did

512
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:16,680
is they didn't give you an extra ten yards with

513
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:18,799
your foreign, but they did give you an extra ten

514
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,799
yards with your peak club, so they compressed your set.

515
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,000
The other thing I look at is I look at

516
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,279
the guys on the PGA tour and carrying four or

517
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:30,240
five clubs that go over two hundred yards, some of

518
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,799
them six, not counting the driver. Well, outside of two

519
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,039
hundred yards, the difference between average distance to the hole

520
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,799
for the best guy on tour and the worst guy

521
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,400
on tour is nine feet. The best guy on tour

522
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,880
averages forty two feet proximity to the hole from outside

523
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,039
two hundred yards. The number one twenty five guys fifty feet. Well,

524
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:56,920
you know, you don't make a lot more forty two

525
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,759
footers than fifty footers, So they're really kind of equal

526
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:03,440
out there. So the whole tour is essentially equal outside

527
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,839
two hundred yards, But if you go to the one

528
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000
hundred to one twenty five range, the best guy is

529
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,359
thirteen feet and the number one twenty five guys twenty

530
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,839
one feet. Well, you're going to make a lot more

531
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,519
thirteen footers than twenty one.

532
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: Footers, especially in the tour.

533
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean especially, but any of us we're going

534
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,519
to make more putts from thirteen feet than twenty one feet.

535
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,079
So doesn't it make sense that that guy is not

536
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,880
going to get any better with a five iron from

537
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,119
two fifteen or to twenty. But he could spend a

538
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,160
lot more time and get better equipment inside one twenty

539
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480
five and he could start closing that gap to that

540
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:40,599
thirteen yard guy, I mean thirteen foot guy, and he's

541
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,240
going to move up the money list pretty quick. What

542
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:47,200
would one more birdy a week be worth to an

543
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,759
average tour player? I did this calculation many years ago

544
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,119
that one more birdy a week would be worth something

545
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,519
like one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year. That

546
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720
was when the leading money winner was making a million.

547
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,839
Eighty moneyminner is making eight million. I mean, I would

548
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,359
like to I need to get my college student. It

549
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,799
does market research for us. I need to get her

550
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:11,519
to go in and find out what would happen if

551
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,640
you took the number one hundred and twenty guy on

552
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,599
the money list and gave him one more birdy a

553
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,839
week for his twenty five or twenty eight tournaments? What

554
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
would that have done for him? One stroke a week?

555
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,799
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I'm booking right now a PGA Tour player,

556
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:28,359
and I'm going to ask.

557
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: Him that, ask him that what would you have done

558
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,759
last year if you'd have made one more birdy a week?

559
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,119
And do you think you're going to do that with

560
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,759
your four, five and six iron? Are you more likely

561
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,519
to do that with your nine and your wedges?

562
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm writing that done. I'm going to ask that.

563
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: Question all about the tools in your bag. The average

564
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,960
gown tour today carries three clubs maybe four that he

565
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:54,640
plays the golf course inside of one fifty with. Ben

566
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,079
Hogan had seven clubs in his bag to play the

567
00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:00,799
inside one fifty shots. So if you're going to try

568
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:02,960
to be as good as he was inside one fifty

569
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,079
and he has seven tools and you have one, or

570
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:09,559
I mean you have three, you're not gonna be as

571
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,880
good as that guy. Just can't. You can't practice enough.

572
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:14,599
It's kind of like if you go to in your

573
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,599
auto mechanic and you look at his toolbox and he's

574
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,640
got a Crescent ranch and Philip screw driving a pair

575
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,759
of Ivice scripts. He's probably not going to be that

576
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,000
good at fixing your car.

577
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,279
Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna charge your top dollar either.

578
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's not gonna do a very good job

579
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,680
because the other guy's got, you know, three toolboxes full

580
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240
of snap on tools, and he's got every tool possible.

581
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,240
So it's about having the right tools in your bag,

582
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,599
your distance control. What I would do is go out

583
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
and go back to this question. We're kind of rambling here,

584
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
I'm sorry, but if you go out and take your

585
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,839
short game clubs, your high loft golf clubs, and get

586
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,519
your laser range finder or stepping off if you have to,

587
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,039
and go find out how far you hit each of these.

588
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I So Matt every Is is on the

589
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,680
tour now and he's going to be on the show.

590
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640
I'm going to be interviewing him in the next week.

591
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:13,000
So if you're hearing this episode the week it's published,

592
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,960
then I'm coming up next probably is going to be

593
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,960
this guy, Matt every And I'm real curious if you

594
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:22,000
have questions that you'd like to ask this new young

595
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:25,720
PGA tour player. I've already got a couple here from Terry.

596
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,039
Send him in to me. I'm curious, Terry, do you

597
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,240
have any questions if you got a chance to ask

598
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:34,319
a PGA tour player, a young, upcoming, young stud who

599
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,240
was highly decorated in his college career. I'm curious about

600
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,720
his distances as.

601
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: Well, so ask I would ask him, do you know

602
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:49,240
your statistics, Matt of how many shots you hit from

603
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,079
outside two hundred yards and how many clubs you have

604
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,319
to do it versus how many shots you hit from

605
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,480
inside one point fifty and how many clubs you have

606
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:05,119
to do it? And is your set makeup really matched

607
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,000
to the way you play the game today.

608
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking notes.

609
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:11,079
Speaker 3: Good.

610
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's great, thank you. I'm curious when you

611
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,680
asked that the guy you were playing with and you

612
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440
said that he seems so excited about getting these new

613
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
clubs that he was getting ten more yards on his

614
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,160
nine iron, and you said, yeah, what do you do

615
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240
for that one fifteen now that you don't have anymore?

616
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,480
What was a look on his face when you asked.

617
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: Him that it was incredulous? He he was like a

618
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,559
deer in the headlights. Yeah, sure, what do you mean?

619
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,559
What do you mean? Is it good that I hit

620
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,799
everything further? Because you know every ad I read says

621
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,599
if I hit it further, I'm going to be better.

622
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,519
And I will offer your readers and or your listeners.

623
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,559
I would like to offer everybody a challenge, and I

624
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:57,599
invite you all to go do this and then sendpread

625
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680
your email. Go play eighteen holes of golf some afternoon,

626
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:08,400
just a recreational round, and every every hole, take your

627
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,119
drive and walk it fifteen yards further on the line

628
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,799
it was going on, not further down toward the hole.

629
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,680
But if it's going right, walking right, it's going left,

630
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,799
walking left, if it's in the middle of fairway, walk

631
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:24,279
it down the middle of fairway and add fifteen yards

632
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,240
to every drive. Just walk it fifteen steps, put it

633
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,599
down and play the hole out and tell us what

634
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,720
you shoot, and I will guarantee you that fifteen more

635
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,279
yards will not lower your handicap PA stroke.

636
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: That's an awesome challenge.

637
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,799
Speaker 3: Now challenge all of you. But then I'm going to

638
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:45,559
offer you the other challenge, and go write your score down,

639
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,559
and every time you're inside nine ron range, no more

640
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,839
than three strokes. If you're inside nine nine range, you

641
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,319
average three strokes, regardless whether you're a sixteen or a

642
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,839
six handicap, and just add that up. Going, okay, I

643
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,839
played eighteen holes, and every time I got inside nine

644
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:06,000
iron range, I gave whether it took me three or

645
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,079
four shots to get there. But when I got inside

646
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,239
nine iron range, I wrote I added three to that

647
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,840
and that was my score on the hole. But then

648
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,639
I played it out and see how many strokes you

649
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,639
beat your real score by if you were really decent

650
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,000
inside nine iron range.

651
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, turning three shots into two, right.

652
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,639
Speaker 3: No, just I mean turning three shots into three instead

653
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,920
of turning three shots into five. That's what the average golfer. Yeah,

654
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440
it gets down there. He's one hundred and thirty five yards,

655
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,519
got a nine iron in his hand, and he hits

656
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,280
it long short, you know, and then it makes a

657
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,159
bad chip. Next thing you know, he's put a five

658
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,559
or six on the card. It's like I was. And

659
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,679
then you know what happens. You walk off the hole

660
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,679
and your body's go, hey, nice drive, Fred, you know

661
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,639
you know.

662
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: And that actually happened to me today. I had a

663
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
with my three wood. I had a great drive right

664
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,639
up the center and it went a very good distance.

665
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,320
And now I am I am nine iron in and

666
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,800
I just collapsed and four putted. It was awful.

667
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:10,519
Speaker 3: It was so bad because what happened when you hit

668
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:13,840
a bad shot. Now you're pressing your putt and you know,

669
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,800
all that kind of thing, you know.

670
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: And it also reminds me of one of the shows

671
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,880
that you and I did a while back, and that

672
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,280
was and it's a challenge that I that I talk

673
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
about on the course a lot, and is I'd rather

674
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,719
have ten feet closer than ten yards farther any day

675
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,199
of the week.

676
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,199
Speaker 3: Oh, it'll change your scores dramatically. Ten yards longer does

677
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,360
not make that big a difference in your scoring.

678
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Interesting.

679
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: I mean, all of us are way longer than we were,

680
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,480
say twenty years ago. Sure, but us handicaps haven't changed. Yeah. Yeah,

681
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,079
playing it shorter than we were, playing it into the

682
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:56,039
green with a shorter club than we ever have, and

683
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,599
handicaps haven't changed.

684
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: And the obsession with distance, even on golf course design

685
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:03,119
just out of control.

686
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So you know what's interesting. And I was

687
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,079
talking about tour statistics while ago, from one hundred and

688
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:16,639
seventy five to two hundred yard approaches, the number one

689
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,960
guy on tour and the number one twenty five guy

690
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,920
on tour are five feet four inches apart. Okay, But

691
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,440
if I go to one hundred to one hundred and

692
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,800
twenty five yards, the number one guy to the number

693
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:40,559
twenty five guy are five feet four inches apart. So

694
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,159
if you look and then you go to seventy five

695
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,599
to one hundred yards, the number one guy to the

696
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,880
number one twenty five guy is six feet apart. So

697
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960
there is more separation the closer you get to the

698
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,159
green from the best and the worst on tour. So

699
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,079
I'm not going to pick on anybody, but Jim Furick

700
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,920
is number one on tour. From seventy five to one

701
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,719
hundred yards, he averages eighteen feet from the hole. Number

702
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,360
one guy on tour is Bo van Pelt at twelve

703
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,079
feet one. He's a third closer to the hole on

704
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,280
average inside one hundred yards. Well, who's going to make

705
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,000
more birdies? The guy that puts from twelve feet on average,

706
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,719
a guy that puts from eighteen feet on average. You know.

707
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,239
And so if you go back and you go to

708
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,079
this one seventy five to two hundred range, Robert Gerrigis

709
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:33,880
is number one on tour at twenty nine and a

710
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,199
half feet. Kyle Reefers is number one twenty five at

711
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,280
thirty four to ten. Well, you know you're not going

712
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
to make a lot more twenty nine footers than thirty

713
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,559
four footers, but you are going to make a lot

714
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,960
more twelve footers than nineteen footers, a lot more. So,

715
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,159
where are you going to cut the strokes on your score?

716
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You're going to cut them with your high loft clubs.

717
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You're going to cut them with your nine iron to wedges.

718
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And if you give, if your guys would all go,

719
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give eighty percent of your practice time to your high

720
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loft golf clubs for a month, your handicap will come

721
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down guaranteed. Has to fascinating.

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Speaker 1: All right, last question for this one, and again thanks

723
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for taking so many of these questions and for offering

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the clubs to these people. And if I've used your question,

725
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,239
make sure you send me an email saying you heard it.

726
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And then you will get a chance to get a

727
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customized score forty one sixty one, but you have to

728
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pay for the shipping. And this could be an interesting

729
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one because Martin Baker is from Pereghian Beach Parod. I

730
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don't even know how to pronounce it, but it's in Queensland, Australia. Sorry, Marty.

731
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,159
So actually interesting Martin Baker and we'll call him Marty.

732
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He uses the old idol on wedges and he's been

733
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239
listening to the podcast for a long time, and he

734
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was really intrigued about you talking a while ago about

735
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the grip, and he sent you a photo of his glove. Now,

736
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he said, from the so we may be able to

737
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work out whether I'm holding the club too much in

738
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my hand instead of my fingers as you have talked about.

739
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He was also intrigued by your comments about keeping the

740
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grip light on the club. I think this would naturally

741
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relax the forearms and therefore give a more relaxed looking

742
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swing like the professionals. Is that true? So yes, let's

743
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you've seen the picture of his glove, uh huh, and

744
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describe it for us please, and then you're.

745
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Speaker 3: The picture he sent in had a wear spot right

746
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on the heel of the hand, and that's the most

747
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,079
common wear spot you see on golf gloves. There's a

748
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,719
couple of reasons for that. One reason is because golf I.

749
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Speaker 1: Just want to confirm the heel is the base of

750
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the hand opposite your thumb.

751
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Speaker 3: Right the heel pad. Yeah, at the heel.

752
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Speaker 1: Pad, got it, okay.

753
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Speaker 3: And the reason golfers wear their gloves out there is

754
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there's a couple of reason. One is, as he mentioned,

755
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you need to have the club in your left hand,

756
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really in your fingers, and you roll your fingers up

757
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so that the club is below that heel pad. That's

758
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first thing. Second thing is that the butt end of

759
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the golf club has to be outside that heel pad.

760
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And when you think of gripping down on a club,

761
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you know what we want to do is we want

762
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to grip just enough to wear that the grip cap

763
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is not up in our glove. We have to get

764
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our Think about it. You've got your smallest finger on

765
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your hand gripping the biggest part of the grip. You

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would be amazed. And I invite all of you to

767
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do it, to watch what happens to your distances in

768
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your ball flight if you will go out and just

769
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,639
hit shots with every one of your golf clubs and

770
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,639
grip them down a full inch to where you get

771
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down into a narrower part of that grip. But the

772
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other reason is, and I think it was the last

773
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,920
week or week before last show or the show before that,

774
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we talked about the proper release of the club and

775
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:11,679
the club. Your hands cannot hinge. They have to rotate

776
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,639
to release the golf club. And you want to grip

777
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:18,079
the club with the upper three fingers of your left hand,

778
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so the club cannot move around in your hand, it

779
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,920
cannot slide. And what causes that wear spot on the

780
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,159
heel of your glove is because that club is sliding

781
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,079
up and down across that heelpad and the grip has

782
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:35,559
got a friction of surface, and so it's wearing away

783
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,239
at that leather. But a really good player doesn't let

784
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that happen. A really good player has a firm grip

785
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,840
on the club with the last three fingers of the

786
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left hand, and they're not hinging through impact, they're rotating

787
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,280
through impact. So that club stays down in those fingers,

788
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and if it's not moving, it can't wear your glove out.

789
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The only way a grip can wear your glove out

790
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is if it's moving in your hand. And if you're

791
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,320
regripping the golf club orth the club is sliding around, obviously,

792
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,800
you're losing a lot of control of that golf club.

793
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So move the club further down in the fingers than

794
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you ever thought possible and maintain a firm grip on

795
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,480
it with your last three fingers your left hand, not

796
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,800
your pincher fingers and your thumb. But those last three

797
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,119
fingers your left hand. That's where you want to control

798
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,440
the golf club. You want to feel throughout the golf

799
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swing that you have total control of the golf club

800
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with those last three fingers of your left hand.

801
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Speaker 1: And you are talking about right handed golfers, right.

802
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, yeah for the lead hand, let's put the

803
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upper hand.

804
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, awesome. Well that was phenomenal and I

805
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really appreciate you giving us the time to be able

806
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,320
to answer a bunch of questions at once. But on

807
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our next episode of Golf Smarter, you will come back

808
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,039
and it will be a full score zone, short game

809
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academy where we will answer one more question. So, Terry,

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thanks so much again and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sounds great, but I'd look forward to the next one.

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