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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome to Pete Rose Day

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<v Speaker 1>in the City Cincinnati. It is May fourteen, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to celebrate the life and times of Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at the ballpark. And of course he was admitted

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<v Speaker 1>back into baseball taking off the ineligible list a day

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<v Speaker 1>or two ago by the Commissioner. My view, that is pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool to have a guy die about six months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the memories light the corners of my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's face it, I want to get the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>of the great Hall of Famer Marty Brenneman. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>tonight the first pitch is seven fourteen PM tonight, White Sox,

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<v Speaker 1>a little Dollo on the mound, and Marty's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the MC starting. I think about six thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>Marty Browneman and welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell the American people, the forty thousand fans

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<v Speaker 1>accumulating and congregating to go to the Great American Ballpark?

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<v Speaker 1>What time to get there? I would think a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit early. And then secondly, what's going to happ up

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<v Speaker 1>in between six thirty and seven fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're going to the gates are open at five

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen Bill, and that's a good move.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Way ahead of when the actual Rose memory ceremonies will

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<v Speaker 2>begin around six thirty. And I think in a early

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<v Speaker 2>class move, the club is giving to everybody who attends tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes it's the first twenty thousand or the first fifteen thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the case might be, the club is going

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<v Speaker 2>to give out a facsimile jersey like the one Pete

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<v Speaker 2>wore during the seventy five seventy six Big Red Machine

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<v Speaker 2>World Championship years. At six thirty or thereabouts, I will

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<v Speaker 2>oversee Q and A with Barry Larkin, with Ken Griffy Senior,

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<v Speaker 2>with Eric Davis, and with George Foster, and basically the

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<v Speaker 2>questions are going to deal with Pete Rose the player,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose the teammate, and Pete Rose the manager. And

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<v Speaker 2>those four guys really present a great cross section because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Larkin, Larkin grew up watching Rose in the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Red Machine teams play, and then eventually Pete became

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<v Speaker 2>Barrie's first manager in the Big leagues, and then Griffy

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<v Speaker 2>was a teammate of his and later a coach, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Foster, of course, is one of the main stays

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<v Speaker 2>of those great clubs in the middle seventies and playing

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<v Speaker 2>with Pete and Eric Davis was both a teammate and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who Pete managed when Pete was player manager

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball club. So that's a good that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good mix. And then they're going to have I know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Western Hills I don't know what's lee club or

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<v Speaker 2>a singing group from Western Hills High School where Pete went.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll sing the national anthem. Members of the family will

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<v Speaker 2>throw out the first stitch.

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<v Speaker 3>There will be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen second, you know, a fourteen second memory to commemorate

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<v Speaker 2>or to think about your own personal thought of what

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<v Speaker 2>Pete meant to the city and what he meant to

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<v Speaker 2>this game. And then of course seven fourteen again the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen comes up his number to kick off the ballgame.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you saw Pete rose.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tried to remember when the last time it was

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<v Speaker 2>that I saw him. He passed away in September. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him, No, I saw him on New Year's Eve

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty and twenty four, because he and I were

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<v Speaker 2>together for the second straight year at the Hard Rock

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<v Speaker 2>Casino to make an appearance on New Year's Eve. That

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<v Speaker 2>might have been.

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<v Speaker 3>That might have been.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him a lot on the phone, but

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<v Speaker 2>I rarely ever got a chance to see him other

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<v Speaker 2>than when we were thrown together to deal with a function.

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<v Speaker 1>Any day with Pete Rose was a good day, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was on the phone in person, bubbling, incredible personality,

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<v Speaker 1>fun to be with. What was your reaction when Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Manford finally said, I guess about six seven months after

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<v Speaker 1>Pete's death, Okay, we'll take him off the ineligible list

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<v Speaker 1>along with the other fifteen. What was your initial reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Rob Manford fan. I think there's an incredible level

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<v Speaker 2>of hypocrisy involving this whole thing. And I've made the

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<v Speaker 2>comment over years and years and years that you can

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<v Speaker 2>hardly turn around at the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown

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<v Speaker 2>without seeing something that Pete did on the field as

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<v Speaker 2>a player that enhanced the interest of.

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<v Speaker 1>The game of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>So they didn't hesitate using Rows as a player to

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<v Speaker 2>uplift the image of the game and the eyes of

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<v Speaker 2>the fans, and many thousands that went through the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame in Cooperstown every year and every day, but

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<v Speaker 2>yet he was not a lot good enough to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe me when I tell you, going back

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<v Speaker 2>to the day that he was suspended from the game,

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<v Speaker 2>I agreed one hundred percent with it. I went full

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<v Speaker 2>circle over on the on the ensuing years. But I

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<v Speaker 2>agreed with it because that's the only rule in baseball

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<v Speaker 2>that's on the wall of every clubhouse in Major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>all thirty all thirty franchises. And he broke that rule,

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<v Speaker 2>and he should have been suspended, but not to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that he ended up being suspended. And the hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 2>of it now is that within a matter of months,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is the most transparent thing I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no element of cloak and dagger here trying to

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<v Speaker 2>hide something, because as you said, it was a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of months he passes, and now they announced that he's

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<v Speaker 2>off the ineligible list. I'm just not a big fan. Granted,

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<v Speaker 2>he should have been suspended. Secondly, and quite honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe this, And I told the Bill the day

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<v Speaker 2>he was called the West Palm Beach in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to meet with Peter you Barrot and Bartier Moody Commissioner,

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<v Speaker 2>National League President, and they laid out all the evidence

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<v Speaker 2>they had, and the evidence was irrefutable. You couldn't there

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<v Speaker 2>was And I think that had he laid his he

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<v Speaker 2>fell on the mercy of the court and said, everything

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<v Speaker 2>you got is true, I am guilty as hell. He

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<v Speaker 2>would have been suspended for a period of time and

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't even be talking about the possibility of him

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<v Speaker 2>going in the Hall of Fame today.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he would have been in it years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Pete made him mad because in face

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<v Speaker 2>of overwhelming evidence that he did do it and his

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<v Speaker 2>continued insistence that he didn't, they finally said somewhat vindictively.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know they would never admit this because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no not an ounce of vindictiveness in Rob Manfred's body. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to continually lie to us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to show you why you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really believe that's the way that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I told him, I said, had you admitted it the

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<v Speaker 2>first day they confronted you with it, Yeah, it's unfortunate

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<v Speaker 2>the way things played out.

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<v Speaker 1>I had on Keith O'Brien and wrote the book Charlie Hustle,

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<v Speaker 1>The Golden Asua baseball friend of mine. Yeah, good, about

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago, and I said to him, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest point of Pete Rose's life? And he related

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<v Speaker 1>to me a conversation he had with Pete in which

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<v Speaker 1>in October of nineteen ninety the last glory run of

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds hopefully they'll be one soon, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it, in which the Reds were just taking

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<v Speaker 1>apart the Oakland A's and Pete was in a prison

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit of an area where other federal

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<v Speaker 1>inmates were in Marion, and Pete was saying, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have done this, I would have done that. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at this, look at that, he said. Near the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he went back to his to sell and he laid

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<v Speaker 1>in bed trying to get the wrap up of the

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<v Speaker 1>game Benziger's catch on the transistor radio and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite catch it inside the federal prison. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose looked at the ceiling in October as the

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<v Speaker 1>Reds clinched in Oakland. You had a magnificent call of

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<v Speaker 1>that occurring. And he said Pete's mind was just collapsing

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<v Speaker 1>around the idea that he saw jeth Row, he saw

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<v Speaker 1>Lark and he saw Benziger, he saw Rio. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Jose Rio turned sixty years old yesterday, talk about time

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<v Speaker 1>fly and Pete said that that was the lowest point

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. Can you imagine if you go from

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<v Speaker 1>September the eleventh, nineteen eighty five to about four years

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<v Speaker 1>later August ninth, or maybe October of nineteen ninety think

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<v Speaker 1>of the road that Pete Rose traveled from forty one

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two to federal prison staring at the ceiling in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark, trying to get the call of that game. Unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>It really.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it, Without be questioned, it's incredible. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Keith O'Brien's book's the best book that's ever been written

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<v Speaker 2>about Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for those who were the best as down and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned what happened in West Pond Beach with you

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<v Speaker 1>Ba Off and I think Fay Vincent was in the

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<v Speaker 1>room and others, and Pete's character was such he could

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<v Speaker 1>not admit to agent there weren't there. At least two

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<v Speaker 1>other occasions were Joe Morgan while he's doing the ESPN game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with John Miller, et cetera. Joe Morgan and

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<v Speaker 1>others had Seallea getting close to saying, okay, do this,

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<v Speaker 1>do that, We'll let you back in, and Pete couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>take the next step.

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<v Speaker 3>Not exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>There were at least two occasions where Joe had set

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<v Speaker 2>up a meeting between Bud Ceilely and Pete Rose that

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<v Speaker 2>was just a meeting that no one else would have

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<v Speaker 2>been privy to. It would have been Bud sitting across

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<v Speaker 2>the table from Pete. I don't know whether Joe would

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<v Speaker 2>have been involved in it, probably not knowing Joe as

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<v Speaker 2>well as I did, he wanted no part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Bud Seelely's inside guy. Every time Sea League

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<v Speaker 2>had something that was sensitive at any level relative to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, the first person he would confide in with

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Morgan. Joe had incredible power that people never even

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<v Speaker 2>knew about. And he was also the best friend that

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<v Speaker 2>any human being could ever possibly have. And I told

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<v Speaker 2>Pete a million times everybody should be privileged to have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend like you had in Joe Morgan. And every

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<v Speaker 2>time Joe got this meeting almost certain to take place,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete did or said something that killed it all. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Pete, my beautiful wife, who is a very

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<v Speaker 2>bright girl, as a saying, nobody will do more damage

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<v Speaker 2>to you than you'll do to yourself. And Pete was

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<v Speaker 2>probably the poster boy for that, because if you stuck

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<v Speaker 2>a microphone in his face and you talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>live long enough, he's going to say something that will

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<v Speaker 2>hurt him. And those occasions that Joe had set up

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<v Speaker 2>meetings with Bud Seely, on both occasions Pete did something

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<v Speaker 2>that angered the commissioner and he called him off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw last night. I'm watching ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tim Kirchen is this fabulous season almost the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and he's been on that so called Veterans Committee before,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course people I just said, somebody stop me

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallway and say when's Pete getting in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. And I said, well, I told this

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<v Speaker 1>fine sales executive of ours. We'll see about that. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Kirchin said the following he said, I've been on that

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans Committee and it meets, by the way, sometime in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of twenty twenty seven to announce the results

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty in December of twenty twenty seven, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what two and a half years away, And he said

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<v Speaker 1>there's sixteen of us, he said, and they're all Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of famers or individuals like me or General Manager Tony

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<v Speaker 1>he still lives. He was, and Tim said, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>And then he related a conversation he'd briefly had with

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<v Speaker 1>and Frank Robinson I said to Tim, this is years

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<v Speaker 1>meet every three years, and what is your sense, I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Veterans Committee. At some point they asked eminent

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<v Speaker 1>it's a short step. We will be announced tonight that

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose is in the Hall of no Explain the process,

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<v Speaker 1>the difficulties Pete Rose would have in front of that committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I've felt and Jim knows a whole

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<v Speaker 2>that it is being presented to the Veterans Committee might

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<v Speaker 2>well stand a better ants of him being inducted now

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<v Speaker 2>then it would have been back in the day, because

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<v Speaker 2>of the anger that a lot of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>that he bet on baseball. But you know, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>when I went in in two thousand and it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to believe it's twenty five years ago, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were all up in arms because they've gotten win

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<v Speaker 2>that I was going to say something about Pete and

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<v Speaker 2>Betch came to me, Johnny came to me, the day

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<v Speaker 2>before the induction ceremony, said they don't shoot the messenger.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay. He said, Bob Feller and Ralph Kinner

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<v Speaker 2>have both said that if you mentioned Pete, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get up the walk off the stage. And I said, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 3>What they did.

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<v Speaker 2>If they wanted to be stripped naked.

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<v Speaker 3>In defiance of what I said, then the hell with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next day I made a comment about Pete

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<v Speaker 2>very assertively that he should be in the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 2>and moved on. They were concerned over the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>this the year before, when Mike Schmidt went in in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine, that he went on for five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>about how Pete should be in the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 2>and that angered the dickens out of them. And so

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<v Speaker 2>but I did what I was going to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody got up and walked off the stage. But those

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<v Speaker 2>were the two guys that were that carried the torch

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<v Speaker 2>of defiance against Pete ever being in. Feller and Ralph,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously both of them are gone now, and maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>are people like Robbie who was also gone, But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there are more that we don't know about that. Are

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<v Speaker 2>just as opposed to Pete being in the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>About a minute remaining, Marty Brenneman, what is the reason?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the sense? Forty thousand people tonight and they

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<v Speaker 1>could have sold another twenty thousand tickets. Pete Rose is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the ceremony at the Great American Ballpark in

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<v Speaker 1>September October when he died. Well, what is the hold

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think Bill, and I've said it all the

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<v Speaker 2>years that I've had the privilege of living in this

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<v Speaker 2>go to other places in Major League Baseball, and ply

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<v Speaker 2>my trade, this is the most provincial city on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you come from the outside. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>come from the outside like al Michaels did before me

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<v Speaker 2>and like I did, and other people and other walks

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<v Speaker 2>of life, they reserve judgment on you. They don't jump

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<v Speaker 2>on your bandwagon, but they don't get off of it quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>They wait and see how you can induct yourself, and

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<v Speaker 2>once they decide that you are one of them, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like if you and I were brothers, I can call

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<v Speaker 2>you anything. I want to call you the most vile,

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<v Speaker 2>but the guy who's a friend of ours standing there,

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<v Speaker 2>he better not do it. And so this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of off the beaten path. But you know, Pete was

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<v Speaker 2>an outstanding, elite Major League Baseball player, and he continued

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<v Speaker 2>to knock the doors down on records and he ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>became the all time hit king. People loved that, and

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<v Speaker 2>people loved the fact that he went to West Hills

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<v Speaker 2>High School and he was born on that side of town,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there was nothing that he could do that

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<v Speaker 2>would diminish their love and affection for him. All through

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<v Speaker 2>the gambling thing and anything else that had come into

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<v Speaker 2>play that was a negative factor in peace life. People

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<v Speaker 2>would accept the fact and acknowledge the fact, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, they would always quick to say, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any difference. He's one of us, and we

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<v Speaker 2>love Pete Rose, and I think that basically is what

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about here, and they'll continue to love his

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<v Speaker 2>memory as much as they love the person he was

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<v Speaker 2>just a special individual who had a lot of warts,

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<v Speaker 2>but those warts were accepted by anybody who crossed paths

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<v Speaker 1>Oh tonight, Tim, Marty, thank you so much. We've discussed this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been on the radio forty three years. You've

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<v Speaker 1>a constant theme of Pete Rose. It doesn't change. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think because of the formatics of getting into

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<v Speaker 1>next several years. Maybe three years from now, maybe six,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe nine, maybe twelve, I don't know. But yeah, it's sad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm angry at Baseball for what they did to

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<v Speaker 1>Pete as far as not letting them in. It's pathetic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cruel to do this right after he dies. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't sit well. But Marty, thank you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>fear we're going to do this again at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like they probably we will. Bill all right, Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Pal, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So Now let's continue news coming up. And you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it up. Shakespeare could not write the twist and

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<v Speaker 1>turns of the Life and times of Peter Edward Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>the highs of highs and the lowest of low's. And

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<v Speaker 1>now he's dead, and we cannot change what Major League

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball did depete by being so cruel. What's changed the

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<v Speaker 1>last six or seven months. Nothing? But after he's dead,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to kick him one more time. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred W elderm Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Here we go again. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I want to acknowledge Carlos Sanchez, owner of

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<v Speaker 1>check out Carlos Sanchez. And if you know, Carlo's telling

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<v Speaker 1>me he's to build Cunningham Citizen of the Day. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue now. We never stop. We simply continue. As you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And most of my adult life I've felt directly and

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<v Speaker 1>indirectly empathy, anger, sorrow, all the range of emotions about

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Edward Rose. And here we are again, about six

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<v Speaker 1>months after his death. He died in September of last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but really about eight months after his death. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we're at a situation now where if Pete

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<v Speaker 1>was ABCNBCCBS last night, Lester Hold, David muretctera, Pete Pete Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose. The answer is Pete Rose. And we got

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand fans, desperate fans coming to the ballpark tonight

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<v Speaker 1>named after me, of course, the great American, to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose's accomplishments and contributions, but most importantly, to allow

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<v Speaker 1>his family members. I'm sure Pete Rose Junior will be

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<v Speaker 1>their pet and tie and faun and all the others

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<v Speaker 1>and extended family members and grandkids to understand how great

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<v Speaker 1>a player Pete Rose was and what he meant to

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<v Speaker 1>this town. And in a sense, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few Hall of famers from Cincinnati. Thinking about Barry Larkin,

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<v Speaker 1>who's led an exemporary life. The best Barry Larkin right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is sixty years old. Time flies when you

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<v Speaker 1>having fun, And I would point out I discussed with

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<v Speaker 1>my grandchildren Pete Rose, and they say, who is he?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Pete Rose, the average American was born. The

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<v Speaker 1>average American is thirty one years old. So the average

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<v Speaker 1>American was born in nineteen ninety four, probably had no

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<v Speaker 1>memory of baseball until about twenty years ago. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole history. I speak to el Rod every now

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<v Speaker 1>and now and then Austin and Elmo, and he tells

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<v Speaker 1>Rose had come out of federal prison. It's like, well

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<v Speaker 1>talking about talking to him about Pete Rose is like

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<v Speaker 1>or Marty talking about Joe Demagio. It's not relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>lives of most, but those of us who knew him,

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<v Speaker 1>those of us who watched him, are just in awe.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happened to this guy. Shakespeare could not have written

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<v Speaker 1>a more unbelievable play than the Life of Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm offended by the fact that many, including the

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner's office, I would imagine, would wait until after Pete's

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<v Speaker 1>That was one joy that Pete would have experienced near

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his life. He died at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty three. For God's sakes, he was born four

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen forty one, so you know he's somewhat elderly. Shall

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<v Speaker 1>we say what eighty. He would have just turned eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four years old, and at the end of his life

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<v Speaker 1>he was in bad health, but he had to keep

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<v Speaker 1>signing autographs because that's how he made a living. To

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<v Speaker 1>compare him with Sheilas Joe Jackson is wrong and that

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago White Sox in town. Of course, last night they

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<v Speaker 1>beat up on the Reds again five to one. That's embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>Sox scandal nineteen nineteen not even close. I watched on

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<v Speaker 1>Sox in nineteen nineteen, and betting on baseball at that

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<v Speaker 1>point by owners included was was it given? It happened regularly,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like today. And I don't blame the broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>The sign is there. So Shula Show Jackson and the

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<v Speaker 1>of the World Series won by the Reds of nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and some have said, well, shueless Joe Jackson did not

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<v Speaker 1>do anything wrong. He did hit like three seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>hit a great series. But what he did to was

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<v Speaker 1>except five thousand dollars in cash put on his bed

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel room. He knew about what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He accepted five thousand dollars from the gamblers. He played

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<v Speaker 1>a great World Series and the other ones that were

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<v Speaker 1>suspended through some of the games, but not shuliss Joe Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoeless Joe did not throw any of the games. He

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<v Speaker 1>simply knew what was going on and took five thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which in nineteen nineteen money today's worth about seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Not to throw the game, but he knew

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<v Speaker 1>about he took the cash, and so when they were indicted,

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox eight of them were indicted by a

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<v Speaker 1>Cook County grand jury. About a year later, they were

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<v Speaker 1>all found not guilty by a Chicago jury. And so

436
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<v Speaker 1>what Pete Rose did was bet on baseball. They had

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<v Speaker 1>evidence on as a player, but certainly bet on the

438
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<v Speaker 1>game as a manager to affect the outcome. But he

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<v Speaker 1>said he never bet on the game on the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything but win, putting that off to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a situation where you must separate

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<v Speaker 1>what happened outside the lines as opposed to those inside

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. The same thing, in my view, would have

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<v Speaker 1>applied to Barry Bonds, or Mark McGuire or a Rod whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Clemens. In Pete's case, I had one of our

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<v Speaker 1>great sales execs here come up to me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Pete Rose getting in the Hall of Fame tonight.

448
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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, not exactly. No, No, the Commissioner,

449
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<v Speaker 1>I think, under the aegis of Donald Trump, pressuring Donald Trump,

450
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<v Speaker 1>he does these kinds of things. And the President announced

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to pardon him on his income tax felony

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<v Speaker 1>convictions at being Peter Rose at some point. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not happened yet, but it's going to happen soon, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine, and he encouraged him to put him in

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<v Speaker 1>eligible for the Hall of Fame. You just heard my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Marty Brenahan, Marty Brenneman. The odds him getting

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame now are no greater today

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<v Speaker 1>than they were five or ten years ago. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some say they look to be less likely. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of this. Every three years, this so called Veterans

461
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<v Speaker 1>Committee meets the only meet every three years, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>as many as eight persons nominated through a process that

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<v Speaker 1>occurs previous to December of twenty twenty seven. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing they've done is change some of the picking of

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals who are on that committee. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>be it wasn't a big deal that you'd have some

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame baseball players, maybe some general managers, whatever

468
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<v Speaker 1>it might be. Tony Perez was on at some point

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea was, okay, review those that have fallen

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<v Speaker 1>through the cracks, like Dave Parker and Dick Allen. You

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<v Speaker 1>might remember in December, about five months ago, our own

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<v Speaker 1>Dave park Parker was selected by the Era Committee, the

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans Committee, to be put on the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>which will happen in July of this year. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, okay, well that was deserved. I think Dave

476
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<v Speaker 1>Parker certainly ought to be in the Hall of Fame, etc.

477
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<v Speaker 1>But now the selection process is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>than it was. Let me read you how the Baseball Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>in anticipation of this occurring, has changed. What's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Three sixteen member ERA committees vote on retired players not

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<v Speaker 1>elected by the Baseball Writers' Association, as well as managers

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<v Speaker 1>on parson executives. The ERA Committee meets every three years

483
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<v Speaker 1>and it consists that used to consist of Hall of Famers, executives,

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<v Speaker 1>media and historians vote each year in a rotating basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that has changed. According to my source at ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame has announced that the members of

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<v Speaker 1>the so called Historical Overview Committee the Veterans Committee, which

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<v Speaker 1>develops the Era of ballots, will now be approved by

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame Board of Directors, and those members

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<v Speaker 1>are appointed by the BBWAA, the Baseball Writers of America.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, as Marty just said, a fore voting signed

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<v Speaker 1>for Pete Rose. So they changed it, and they only

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<v Speaker 1>put so the Baseball writers picked the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>Board of Directors who picked the members of the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Timers Committee, and only eight people every three years make

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<v Speaker 1>the so called ballots. It's called you know, eight make it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's voting taking place sometime in December of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven. And that means that this pastime there

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<v Speaker 1>were two elected pot Rose Loup Panela missed by one vote.

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<v Speaker 1>You need twelve of the twelve of the sixteen in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get in the Hall of Fame, states on

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<v Speaker 1>the website, called voting shall be based upon the individual's record, ability, integrity, sportsmanship,

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<v Speaker 1>character and contract ABU to the game. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the course ahead for Pete Rose, yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>wait till he's dead to put him eligible to take

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<v Speaker 1>him off the list. I thought a lifetime ban ended

507
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<v Speaker 1>ended when your life ends. I thought that, No, that

508
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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the case in baseball. Normally, when you're given a

509
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<v Speaker 1>life sentence, go to prison, they don't keep your body

510
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<v Speaker 1>for eight months after you're dead. When you're dead, you're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dead and buried. That's it. But baseball says a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime ban exceeds until recently passed the end of your life,

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<v Speaker 1>Suli Stoe. Jackson's been dead now for about I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seventy four years. He died in nineteen fifty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's seventy four years. Sure was so Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>on the ineligible list during a lifetime ban, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>been dead for seventy four years. So Pete's been dead

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<v Speaker 1>now about eight months. So the long and the shortest,

519
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<v Speaker 1>they're making it more difficult for Pete Rose to baseball

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<v Speaker 1>riders to get into the Hall of Fame through the

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<v Speaker 1>old timers can because of those making the selection. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would point out that Tim Kershon of ESPN a

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<v Speaker 1>greatest story into the game. He was on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of those previous committees, and he said last night on

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN that if it was up to me, I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>in the committee room thinking I would probably do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd want to hear what the other committee members said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could change my opinion when you have the

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<v Speaker 1>old timers and Tim Kershon saying, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about this, And if you don't get six votes,

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<v Speaker 1>six out of the fifteen voting two in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>which is six years in a row, you don't come

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<v Speaker 1>back up for consideration. So to this fine woman who

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<v Speaker 1>works here who said to me, is Pete Rose getting

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame tonight? Well, the odds him

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the Hall of Fame in twenty seven are

537
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<v Speaker 1>not very good. In fact, they're bad because those making

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<v Speaker 1>the selection have given interviews in the past to say

539
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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame, Nor does

540
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<v Speaker 1>shoeless Joe Jackson belong or the other so called black Sox.

541
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<v Speaker 1>They don't belong. So in order to get in, you

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<v Speaker 1>need twelve of the sixteen to say yes, he's in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's automatic. And I think I heard Marty

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the other close friends of Pete say,

545
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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, the Rose families should say thanks, but

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<v Speaker 1>no thanks. Pete would be in the Hall of Fame,

547
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<v Speaker 1>but there wouldn't be like a big celebration of Pete's

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<v Speaker 1>life in the July because they're going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money off of this deal. And this should

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<v Speaker 1>have happened for Pete during the living years instead of

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<v Speaker 1>eight months after he's dead. That's insulting and it's pathetic

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<v Speaker 1>by Major League Baseball. I having said that there's no

553
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<v Speaker 1>franchise in sports does a better job as celebrating its

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<v Speaker 1>past than the Cincinnati Reads. As Marty said, gates are

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<v Speaker 1>opening up at five point fifteen tonight, five point fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>pm tonight. It's going to be for people there and

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<v Speaker 1>get there early because when the gates open, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be handed a replica of Pete Rose Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, seventy six. And the program starts at

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<v Speaker 1>six point thirty and we're going to cover it all

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<v Speaker 1>and at seven point fourteen will be the first pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit late, and the weather's looking okay, not bad,

563
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<v Speaker 1>but here we go again. I first met Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty three when my old coach, Gordon Veterino,

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<v Speaker 1>arranged for him to come speak to a team, and

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<v Speaker 1>after our season had concluded, and I shook his hand,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a picture taking one of those flashbulbs lost

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<v Speaker 1>to history. I'd love to have. But I've been connected

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<v Speaker 1>and admiring Pete Rose for a long long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>for a long long time. He angered me greatly by

571
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<v Speaker 1>screwing up his life, But who hasn't Who among us

572
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<v Speaker 1>can cast the first stone?

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<v Speaker 3>Not me, not you?

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<v Speaker 1>Between the white lines, he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>What he did outside is completely a different matter. And

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<v Speaker 1>some will say that he should never get in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame because of the felony conviction, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, a pardon is coming from President Trump, or

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<v Speaker 1>because he admitted to having sex with a girl he

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<v Speaker 1>thought was sixteen and she was fifteen at the time

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in his thirties, or betting on the

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<v Speaker 1>game directly or indirectly, one way or another. And at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, may the good live after and the bad

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<v Speaker 1>interred with the bones. And as far as Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, I don't know what to say other than

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<v Speaker 1>I wish him well. A friend of mine said, at

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<v Speaker 1>one point he said the word Jesus when a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of his had found the faith, and Pete Rose something

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<v Speaker 1>of the affect. Did he find Jesus? And the answer

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<v Speaker 1>was yes. And I have a hope that as he

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<v Speaker 1>flew from Tennessee back to Vegas, that at some point

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<v Speaker 1>something happened to p Rose he acknowledged his Lord and Savior.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point I hope p Rose ask forgiveness for

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<v Speaker 1>the sins and crimes he had committed, and may he

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<v Speaker 1>be with God Almighty. I'll continue with more coming up

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<v Speaker 1>later as a do no harm physician about what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in medical schools and more Troma the Reds. Bill Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham, The Great America,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we try to understand what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>our major elite institutions. You would like to think, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's UCLA or Columbia or Ohio State, for example, that

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<v Speaker 1>the best and the brightest, the best intentions that the

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<v Speaker 1>leaders have thought, so to speak, in America, they churn

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<v Speaker 1>out the leaders in ten twenty thirty years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the honor going to the University of Toledo

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<v Speaker 1>Law School, got a great education there. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>be admitted to UCLA or iver to yell if I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to. I didn't even try because I wasn't elite

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<v Speaker 1>in the minds of some. And so we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the big schools to churn out the best doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>the best architects, the best lawyers, the best business leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully they don't practice race discrimination as the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>did for most of their history. They have in the South,

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<v Speaker 1>especially between about sixteen nineteen and eighteen sixty five did

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<v Speaker 1>everything in their power to practice racial discrimination against black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the Democratic Party. The ku Klux Klan

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<v Speaker 1>was the Democratic Party hanging black men with Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>and destruction of many of our urban schools today or

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party doing that. But I note with interest

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<v Speaker 1>a column by doctor Stanley Goldfarb, who's the medical watchdog

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<v Speaker 1>of Donoharm dot org has filed a class action lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA for

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<v Speaker 1>discriminating based upon race, and doctor Goldfarb, but welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I know

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<v Speaker 1>the name. Tell the American people who is David Geffen.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess gave a lot of money to have the

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<v Speaker 1>school named after him, a school of medicine producing doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>But who is David Geffen?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's good to be with you, Bill. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>major Hollywood mogul producer. I don't know all of his

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00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 4>ins and outs of all that he owns, but he's

632
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<v Speaker 4>been a major figure in the American movie making industry

633
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<v Speaker 4>for many years now.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of money, And give me the essence of your

635
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>lawsuit against the David Geffen School of medicine at UCLA.

636
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<v Speaker 1>What is the essence of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like a lot of the elite institutions that you mentioned,

638
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 4>there's a rottenness at their core, and in this case

639
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 4>of UCLA Medical School, what's really rotten has been their

640
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 4>admission policies for medical students for the last several years.

641
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<v Speaker 4>And this is probably going on in many medical schools

642
00:35:58.440 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>around the country. In matter of fact, we have some

643
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 4>evidence that it is, but this has been a particularly

644
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 4>egregious place because they're director of admissions at Doctor Lucerno,

645
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 4>who's a physician and an associate dean for admissions, has

646
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 4>been very outspoken in her desire to have a racially

647
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 4>based admissions process. And our lawsuit involves students who were

648
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 4>denied admission to UCLA who had excellent, in fact superb

649
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 4>academic credentials, much better than minority students that were accepted,

650
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 4>and yet they were rejected over and over again from

651
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the school. And again, Doctor Rosano has been very public

652
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 4>in her statements, and we have whistleblowers from the UCLA

653
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Medical School who are willing to testify about things she

654
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 4>has said and things she has done and policies that

655
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.519
<v Speaker 4>the school has adopted. That favors individuals based on their

656
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 4>skin color rather than their academic and performance.

657
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, doctor go Goldfarb. That's been declared illegal for

658
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 1>a very long time, including Title the Civil Rights Act

659
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty four, the Civil Rights Act of eighteen

660
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 1>sixty six, which was codified largely in the fourteenth Amendment,

661
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and the California Civil Rights It is well known you

662
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>can't pick someone or give somebody favor based upon skin color.

663
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>That is racial discrimination. And I would think if you

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<v Speaker 1>put this dean in a deposition, which you're likely to

665
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 1>do soon, she's going to say, yes, we did it,

666
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 1>but we have good intentions. In other words, we want

667
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to have diversity. Diversity is our strength. Actually, I think

668
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 1>unity is our strength. So what are the difficulties when

669
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>you pick individuals for medical school based upon skin color

670
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and not merit. How does that manifest itself to patience?

671
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, ultimately, it really means that you have less qualified

672
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 4>individuals delivering healthcare. And we have lots of evidence now

673
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 4>from the performance of minority students in school and in

674
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 4>their training programs that show that they're performing much less well.

675
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 4>And it's pretty obvious that if you perform less well,

676
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 4>as a student and less well as an intern and

677
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 4>resident where you're actually performing all the functions of a physician,

678
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 4>that you're going to perform less well for the rest

679
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 4>of your career. And in fact, we have evidence for

680
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<v Speaker 4>that from some of the exam performance that has been

681
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 4>noted on when people take their board certification exams, so

682
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 4>we have evidence that the performance is less good. And

683
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 4>the other great problem here is a problem where the

684
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 4>medical the minority medical students who are capable and are

685
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 4>qualified are tarred by this terrible racialism because it seemed

686
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 4>that they were given this opportunity not because of their capabilities,

687
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 4>but because of their skin color. So it works, It

688
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 4>works harm for lots of people at harms patients potentially,

689
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 4>and it harms those black students who deserve to be

690
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 4>physicians and who deserve to have the honor that they've

691
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 4>achieved when they've been successful in their careers, and yet

692
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 4>they're diminished by this kind of program.

693
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 1>And doctor I hear the argument, well, you need doctors

694
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>or lawyers, or politicians or teachers that look like their

695
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>patients or their students or their clients. That the greater

696
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>good is to choose based upon race, so that if

697
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 1>you walk into a doctor's office and there's a black

698
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 1>female face, or you walk into a lawyer's office and

699
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>there is a gay rights lawyer, you walk into your

700
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.639
<v Speaker 1>classroom and you have a teacher that looks like you,

701
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>there are positive societal events for that that needs to

702
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>be imposed. How would you react to that argument from

703
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the radical left.

704
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that is the typical argument that's used to

705
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 4>justify this kind of behavior that in an argument for reparations.

706
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 4>The truth is that there is a great deal of

707
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 4>evidence that that's simply not the case.

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00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 3>There are over.

709
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Sixty medical studies and they've been evaluated through systematic reviews,

710
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>which is a very rigorous process published in peer review

711
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 4>medical journals. Five systematic reviews have been published in peer

712
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 4>review medical journals to show that when you look at

713
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 4>questions of how well do doctors communicate with their patients,

714
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 4>how satisfied are the patients with the care they're getting,

715
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 4>one of the medical outcomes of these kinds of fear.

716
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 4>There's no evidence that having the doctor that books like

717
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 4>you is going to provide better care than the best.

718
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 4>And despite this, studies are cherry picked. You know, an

719
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 4>occasional study will show will claim that there's a benefit,

720
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 4>but then there are five other studies, for example, that

721
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 4>will show that there's no such benefit. So when you

722
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 4>look at the totality of the literature, there's just no

723
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 4>evidence that that's true. And you know it's not true.

724
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 4>These are the teachers. It's not true in any sphere

725
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.440
<v Speaker 4>where it's been proposed. It's just a myth that's out there,

726
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 4>and it's used to justify this kind of racialism that's

727
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 4>gone on in medical school admissions.

728
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's true across the board, right, and

729
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it's true for lawyers, doctors, architects. Is completely true. It's

730
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>inculcated in the groundwater. Yeah, absolutely true.

731
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 4>And you know the point you made about we've had

732
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 4>laws that have prevented this kind of racialization of medical

733
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 4>school admissions. You know, the Supreme Court case the Students

734
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 4>for Fair Admissions, by the way, are co blinktives in

735
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 4>our case with us with our members show you that

736
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 4>there cannot be any such destination in our education at all.

737
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 4>This was one sort of exception that was out there

738
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 4>for several years, but that's been completely eliminated now.

739
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 3>So what is illegal.

740
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 4>It defies the Supreme Court rulings, and the time has

741
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 4>come for it to stop. Time has come for us

742
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 4>to have the colored blind Society that was envisioned by

743
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Martin Luther King Junior, and that represents the American ideal.

744
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I get on a Delta, if I get

745
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>on a Delta airplane, I don't care if the crew

746
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 1>is black, white, Asian, I don't care if they're straight

747
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>or gay. Just get me to where I'm going on time.

748
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of a situation where I have a

749
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.159
<v Speaker 1>sense because of this US Supreme Court, because hopefully we'll

750
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>follow the law. I can recall the comments of a

751
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court justice about thirty thirty five years ago, Santre

752
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Day O'Connor, who kind of winked, nod, nod, and said, look,

753
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to have some okay, benign racial

754
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 1>discrimination for the next twenty years. In order to spend

755
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>more money on the public schools, more Mamby, more money

756
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 1>on public education, we've got to spend more money on

757
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Section eight. We've got to spend a lot of money.

758
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 1>And we've spent literally trillions of dollars the last twenty

759
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 1>to thirty years in order to make sure that a

760
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>kid you're in Los Angeles, ice, but La County school

761
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>about the sand amount of money is spent there is

762
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>in a private school. I live in Cincinnati, and in fact,

763
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the public schools spend more per student than the so

764
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.639
<v Speaker 1>called Catholic private schools with less results. And so the

765
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>argument was, we have to violate the law for about

766
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, and after that, which would be like the

767
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties or two thousand, which is a quarter of

768
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a century ago, were that okay, okay, everyone's up. We're

769
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>going to treat people not based upon the color of

770
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>their skin, but rather that their merit to get in.

771
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And this has not stopped, especially especially in urban areas.

772
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>It's not stopped, and so hopefully it'll stop this time.

773
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, and the thing about medical school admissions

774
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 4>is that any qualified black student has been preferentially admitted

775
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 4>for many, many years, which, okay, if they're qualified, they're qualified,

776
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 4>and that's fine. If they're qualified as much as an

777
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Asian student that's being denied admission. But the problem with

778
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 4>medical schools is, unlike undergraduate schools, where you could always

779
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>go to another school if you don't get excepted by one,

780
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 4>there's always another one. That's not true. In medical schools,

781
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 4>there are fifty five thousand applicants for twenty two thousand spaces,

782
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 4>and if a student is denied admissions, then some other student,

783
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.000
<v Speaker 4>who in this case is better qualified, is denied that admission.

784
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 4>And that's really a major problem. You cannot have fairness

785
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 4>in this kind of system. And again that's very Unamerican

786
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 4>to have such an unshared situation going on.

787
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know those numbers. I know in the

788
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio we have seven or eight law schools,

789
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.559
<v Speaker 1>and of course, if you're bright and intelligent, whatever, you

790
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>might go to Case Western, you might go to Ohio State.

791
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 1>But there's always Ohio Northern, there's always University of Toledo.

792
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 1>And in California, though, I would assume there's a few

793
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>medical schools, and you want the best in the brightest,

794
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>because we're not dealing with not to writing a complaint

795
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 1>or a lawsuit, or maybe not writing a will properly.

796
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about someone's life, that is. And if you

797
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 1>would ask African Americans, do you want the best doctor

798
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to treat you for your cancer? I don't think the

799
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>typical African American patient would say, you know what, I

800
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 1>wanted an affirmative action doctor. The patients themselves don't say that.

801
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 5>No.

802
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 4>In fact, we've asked that question, and you're exactly right.

803
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Black patients want the best doctor. That's what they want,

804
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 4>and it demeans them to suggest that they are so

805
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 4>racially biased that they can only deal with.

806
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>A black doctor. It's just not true.

807
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't reflect the Black community, and it certainly doesn't

808
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 4>reflect what's best for the House of the American people.

809
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, you have in your lawsuit April twenty twenty five,

810
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>a whistleblower said that you see LA circulated a memo

811
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>requiring admissions committee members to consider race when picking students

812
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to serve as admissions officers, and then to go through

813
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the medical school process. I think it takes three, four,

814
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>five six years. Are the principles of racism and shall

815
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we say diversity taught throughout the class work doesn't end

816
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>at the admission and the next four years in medical

817
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 1>school that race never comes up, that you have no

818
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 1>benefit or costs for someone being black. Is this diversity

819
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 1>DEI taught throughout medical school?

820
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

821
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and it's integrated into all courses, even when students

822
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 4>go on a surgical rotation. They'll have a lecture about

823
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 4>diversity and about racism and surgery, and it's all nonsense.

824
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 4>And the reality is there are important health disparities that

825
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 4>the black population suffers, but the idea that it's because

826
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 4>their patients are being treated in a bias fashion by

827
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 4>physicians is just simply wrong. There are other genetic, behavioral,

828
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 4>all sorts of reasons that have to do with why

829
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 4>there's discrepancies in health outcomes by the real problem, and

830
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 4>not to create this myth that the problem is biased

831
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 4>on the part of physicians and that patients need.

832
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Doctors that look like them in order to get rid

833
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 3>of this bias.

834
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 4>That's this lie that's been perpetuated for several years now,

835
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 4>and it's just wrong and it's just counterproductive, totally counterproductive

836
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 4>because it doesn't get at the root of the issue.

837
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<v Speaker 4>The root of the issue is that black patients need

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<v Speaker 4>to have better trust in the healthcare system and need

839
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<v Speaker 4>to identify their symptoms earlier and need to get health

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<v Speaker 4>access earlier. We know, for example, that the high maternal

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<v Speaker 4>mortality that black women suffer in large part is due

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<v Speaker 4>because there's a tremendous gap between they're getting first trimester

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<v Speaker 4>prenatal care in order to identify high pertension and other

844
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 4>problems that can be controlled early on in pregnancy and

845
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<v Speaker 4>prevent problems later on. And these opportunities are available, there

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<v Speaker 4>are laws that provide the funding for black women. If

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<v Speaker 4>they're poor to be able to get this care, they

848
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<v Speaker 4>need to get the care. Then it needs to be

849
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<v Speaker 4>an educational process that goes on in the black community

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<v Speaker 4>that would help mitigate this problem. It's not due to

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that obstetrics and gynecology doctors are biased against

852
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<v Speaker 4>black women.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would think DEI principles apply, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout medical school and if, as some conservative a student

855
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't buy into the idea, I'm not going to acknowledge DEI.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to acknowledge racism. That student would have

857
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<v Speaker 1>difficulties getting residency, getting grades, things to that character. And well,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully is that the case doctor, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting that the agency that credit that

860
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<v Speaker 4>credits residency programs now just yesterday announced that they were

861
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<v Speaker 4>going to eliminate their diversity requirements for residency programs. And

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<v Speaker 4>in the past what you said is absolutely the case

863
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<v Speaker 4>that there are students that were denied opportunities and specialties

864
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 4>like neurosurgery or radiology because of their skin color. And

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<v Speaker 4>this has been going on throughout the medical establishment, and

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<v Speaker 4>that time has come when it must stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Stanley Goldfarbe, go online, Do No Harm dot org,

868
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<v Speaker 1>Medical director. Let's begin and let's go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that race should not play a factor in these admissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather it should be merit and everyone should agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Stanley gold Goldfarb from UCLA, thanks for coming on

872
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. And doctor you're a great American.

873
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Thanks so much, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more and there it is. Race should

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<v Speaker 1>play no part. Merit should trump race whenever it's available.

876
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's the that's the law. How about enforcing the law.

877
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 1>What a novel concept. No one is above the law.

878
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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred that you.

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<v Speaker 3>L one one to a waiting Jim Hickman and right.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the stretch, looking back and.

881
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<v Speaker 6>Trolls up the middle Goss on the play round, pick

882
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<v Speaker 6>up my owners loss, coming to the place. So the

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<v Speaker 6>prow Adan it's all over the nationally when he rows

884
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<v Speaker 6>perl into Ray Posse, who is slow in getting up

885
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<v Speaker 6>find the block the plate.

886
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<v Speaker 1>The ball wasn't there yet, and Rows just rolled the

887
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<v Speaker 1>shoulder into him, and Posse.

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<v Speaker 6>Is being led away. But the nison leg is now on.

889
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<v Speaker 3>It's eighth in a row.

890
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<v Speaker 6>The line drive single of the Chicago Cubs Jim Hickman

891
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 6>scorer Cincinnatis head Rose.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh hello, hello, quiet number, my god, all right?

893
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<v Speaker 1>Segment nineteen seventy Ray Fosse and segment where are you now?

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<v Speaker 3>If anywhere were sitting in a radio birthway Ballady, you

895
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 3>meet out with floater Speedway and I'm watching the cars

896
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 3>going around that god getting it's two hundred and twenty

897
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<v Speaker 3>four miles an hour. They had about a three hour

898
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<v Speaker 3>rain delay this morning, so they just got the track

899
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<v Speaker 3>dright out. They've been out there for about five or

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes. But thinks they're rocking and rolling here in Indianapolis.

901
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So so in Cincinnati. Now, tell me a memory you

902
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 1>have of Pete Rose, Maybe the ball he gave you

903
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I Joe Demagio, maybe some other event. Give me

904
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 1>a memory of Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was that's you know what Willie? You brought

906
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that I forgot, totally forgot about that. You and I

907
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>were down there one night talking to him and stuff

908
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in his office, and he said, hold on a minute,

909
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 3>reached up at his locker and got these two baseballs out,

910
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.159
<v Speaker 3>cast them to us, and at once one it said

911
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Pete Rose. And I split the ball around and stopped,

912
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and you pumped into me. He said, what are you doing?

913
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 3>I said, look at turn the ball around, and it said,

914
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Joe Demagule, where is your Joe Demagio Pete Rose ball?

915
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 1>As I speak, where is where's your ball?

916
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Mine's at home?

917
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 1>And it came mine's in the woods behind Camargo Woods

918
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and Madeira, my son took it out and played catch

919
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>with it in the on the pavement of Camargo Woods Court.

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00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh well that's you know what that that reminds me

921
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 3>of the baseball. Remember the baseball that was the last

922
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.440
<v Speaker 3>out of Tom Brownie's perfect.

923
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Game September sixteenth, nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he ended it up on the mantle, and I

925
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 3>guess after a couple of weeks or something, he looked

926
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<v Speaker 3>on the mantle, the ball wasn't there, and he has

927
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 3>his kids and where's the baseball? And where's that ball?

928
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 3>At the said, well, we needed we didn't have a

929
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 3>baseball until we just got that one. It's in the

930
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<v Speaker 3>wood some plate in Erlanger or something wherever he lived.

931
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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, what, No, I don't know. I don't

932
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<v Speaker 3>know if they ever found it or what. But that's

933
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<v Speaker 3>that's a that's a that's a known fact.

934
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<v Speaker 1>In segment, I hate to bring this up, but the

935
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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Cavaliers best record in all of basketball thrown out

936
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 1>by the Pacers. Where you are four to one in

937
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 1>the series, lost, and nobody's happy now in Cleveland, which

938
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>might be a good thing.

939
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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's true, Willie. The Browns, the Browns are going

940
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 3>to be bad. The Cavaliers were like, you know, lights

941
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 3>out in the season. And people here in Indianapolis are

942
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 3>going crazy because how about this on Sunday of the

943
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the Indianapolis five hundred. Also in Indianapolis that night will

944
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<v Speaker 3>be Game three of the Eastern Conference Finals.

945
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh oh yeah.

946
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<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about excitement? The people are, you know,

947
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 3>they're excited about the five hundred. But people in Indianapolis

948
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 3>are going crazy because the Papers are playing so well

949
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and they may end up winning the whole thing.

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00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think, you know, Nicks, I would think are

951
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<v Speaker 1>favor now to beat the Celtics with Jason Tatum done.

952
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<v Speaker 1>So if it's the exactly, if it's the Pacers in

953
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the finals, and you know, I would assume if they

954
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<v Speaker 1>can beat the Knicks, then they play I guess Oklahoma City,

955
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and that'd be a crisis in the NBA. They don't

956
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>want Indianapolis playing Oklahoma City. You know what I'm saying.

957
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 3>I came end of that. Will He the student to

958
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 3>poor here it is brocking you by your local tame

959
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 3>star eating er, conditting dealers, teme star quality. You canteal

960
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:15.320
<v Speaker 3>excuse me, Willie Red's update, Reds got knocked off. Hopefully tonight, Willie,

961
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 3>thank you, Rocky, Hopefully to night, Wille It'll be a

962
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 3>rose Knight, will be a victory in front of a

963
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 3>sellout crowd because we're going to honor the Hit King

964
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:29.679
<v Speaker 3>in his great career thing. So uh. And the coverage

965
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.400
<v Speaker 3>begins right after you at three o'clock live from the

966
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<v Speaker 3>Holy Grail, the Cinema Attack Resolution Peed Party presented by

967
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968
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 3>the R and M Carriers inside Hit and then the

969
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Kelton Chevrolet xtrating show after the game.

970
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, what about Trey Hendrickson is a Christian who says

971
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to honor his contract. Can you comment

972
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.039
<v Speaker 1>on the fact that Trey Hendrickson number ninety one signed

973
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the deal deal and did not honor the contract. Now

974
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 1>he says going to sit out.

975
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Your comments on that, well, he's well, if he sits out,

976
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 3>he's going to be fined. And this is gotten. It

977
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 3>looked like a progress is going to be made about

978
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 3>a week or so ago, and now it's turned ugly

979
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 3>because like I said, he uh, you know, Bengals up.

980
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.840
<v Speaker 3>They brought you by good spirits and party town. Trey

981
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Hendrickson years today showed up in street closed at the

982
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Bengals voluntary workout on the sideline, not a uniform, but

983
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 3>it's a poke with the media. And one day after

984
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 3>apparently the contract, cops were cut with him. So it's

985
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, that's that's maybe they.

986
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to tell you, but.

987
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I really The Bengals twenty twenty five schedule is going

988
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 3>to come out along with the rest of the National

989
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Football lead Amy dorn Window presented by Bill and Adam Webber.

990
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 3>NFL schedule release party is live tonight that Smoked Justice

991
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 3>and Covington starting at sixth on the FPM fifty. There

992
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 3>is a report I saw this morning the Bengals will

993
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 3>open Bengals Sunday Night football at Buffalo.

994
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that possible?

995
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:09.119
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

996
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

997
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

998
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 3>That's one thing. That's one thing. They said they'll be

999
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 3>on the road at Buffalo MLS soccer tonight after Cincinnati

1000
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 3>on the road at Toronto FC, acting at seven on

1001
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports thirteen to sixty. Uh like I said. Indianapolis

1002
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 3>five hundred practice had a belong range of late this

1003
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<v Speaker 3>morning and they are back on it today. Scott Dixon

1004
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 3>the tour at twenty four miles an hour. College basketball

1005
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 3>will eive the Skyline Jelly Cropstown Shootout. Give me the date,

1006
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<v Speaker 3>Friday night, December the fifth at the Sintop Center. Oh,

1007
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember that game being on a Friday night. No,

1008
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 3>they got the first.

1009
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure Xavier as a team yet. Does you

1010
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 1>see have a team?

1011
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I think you see has a well. I think both

1012
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 3>of them are close to having a team, but I

1013
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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I I have you given any more nil

1014
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 3>money to your beloved Musketeers.

1015
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I gave the same amount you gave the North North

1016
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Northern Kentucky same amount of money. Okay, whatever you give

1017
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the NKAU, I'll give the xavior. Is that fair?

1018
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fine.

1019
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<v Speaker 1>Now another thing, I'm glad you brought this up. Trey

1020
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Hendrickson as a grown man, I think he's thirty thirty

1021
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>one years old, he signs a contract to pay him

1022
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen or sixteen million dollars for the season twenty

1023
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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. It's in black ink. It's on the paper

1024
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I signed, he says, verbally orally, somebody in management told me, well,

1025
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<v Speaker 1>if you have a good year, we'll revisit the contract.

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00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>What good is a verbal utterance over a written contract?

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00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me that.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot? Well, I mean, you know, if he got

1029
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it in you know, he got it in writing, that

1030
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<v Speaker 3>they were going to have, you know, some kind of no,

1031
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're going to rework the deal in writing.

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<v Speaker 3>Then think he's okay. But now it's like now, like, well,

1033
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 3>if somebody tells you something and if you go away

1034
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a bit, they just told me that a week ago,

1035
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<v Speaker 3>or what are.

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<v Speaker 1>You talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, it's gotten it's gotten ugly. It's

1038
00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.719
<v Speaker 3>gotten ugly because you know, he has let people know

1039
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 3>that Dak Taylor has texted him for, you know, to

1040
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<v Speaker 3>say that if he's not at the mandatory workout in

1041
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<v Speaker 3>the next month, who's gonna get fined.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the contracts, right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, if if I if I

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<v Speaker 3>was being paid fifteen point eight million dollars to play football,

1045
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 3>I got my helmet on twenty four to seven and

1046
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm and I'm sleeping in my uniform. But I mean,

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00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, the guy, you know, I mean, the guy

1048
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 3>is obviously worth more than that, but I mean, it's

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00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.519
<v Speaker 3>it's like you've got to work, you got to get

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00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:52.000
<v Speaker 3>a deal. Deal. Maybe the guy's a.

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00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Recovery, he's got a deal.

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00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I know, he's got a deal, got a deal. But

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00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you know he's I said this

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00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 3>before that he was going to be the odd man

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00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:07.079
<v Speaker 3>out with the Gabbard days and p Higgins deal. He

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00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.199
<v Speaker 3>was he was going to be probably the odd man

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00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>out of this whole thing. Maybe maybe they'll maybe they'll

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00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden come to you know, maybe in

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00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 3>the in the hour in the twelve hour of the

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00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 3>before they go to camp or before the mandatory camp happens,

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00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 3>they'll work, they'll be working a deal. Who knows right now,

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00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 3>I apparently they're not talking at all. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with him going public yesterday totally boldly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mike Brown done back down a lot. Is that

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00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>fair to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? That is correct, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's going to go somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>to make about sixteen million bucks. And I'm stuck up

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<v Speaker 1>on this idea. He says he's a Christian. He says

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00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I signed a contract. He says, I agreed to play

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00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 1>here twenty twenty five. And now he's saying, you know what,

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00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I want I want more money. I'm

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00:59:57.480 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>not going to honor the contract.

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<v Speaker 3>Right he wants some more green sale of the Salvation.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're saying, wait a minute, hold it. You know

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01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you got a deal. And then but I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>had he had a fabulous year reader in sack in

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01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 3>the in the National Football League and everything else, and

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01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 3>then he's the leader of that defense. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't know, Willie. I mean, that's that's

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01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 3>way beyond obviously my pay grade. That's up around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say this, when you sign a deal

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01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you'll honor the deal. And if you call upon the

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01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Almighty to bless your life, and the Almighty is blessing

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01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.440
<v Speaker 1>your life, and you sign a deal, sin, I'm playing

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01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>football for you for sixteen million dollars in the year

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01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:43.559
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. I'm turning thirty one years old in December. Now,

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01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be nice about it and extend

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01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>my contract, so be it. But I'm gonna play. I'm

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01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:52.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna honor my word. How about that idea Britton.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that's a that was that would be

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01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 3>fairly successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, I don't know what to tell you, but

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<v Speaker 1>God bless him. I don't know he raised money for

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01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Deer Park High School. I have great fight, some positivity

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01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 1>for Trey Henderson. But if you sign a deal, a

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01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 1>deal deal, A deal is a deal. And now if

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01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:11.159
<v Speaker 1>you want to extend it, I'm gonna play much better

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01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>this year than I played last year, and then I'll

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01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>be more valuable to you or someone else. But they

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01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:18.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay I know, thirty million dollars for

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01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a thirty three year old pass rusher. And Mike Brown.

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01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 1>You know you criticize Mike Brown a lot, but this

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01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.800
<v Speaker 1>time Mike Brown is right, he signed a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I agree with I agree with you, and I

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01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:32.280
<v Speaker 3>agree with mister Brown.

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01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Well you don't agree with Trey Hendrickson.

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01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Then well then, I mean, you know you said it.

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01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the guy's got a contract already for fifteen

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01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.440
<v Speaker 3>million bucks and it's the final year, and that they

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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.039
<v Speaker 3>gave him permission to seek a trade. And nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 9>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, did we hear about anything about a

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01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:55.960
<v Speaker 3>trade or a deal deal with him?

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<v Speaker 1>According according to the scribes, the Bengals wanted a first

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01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 1>in the second draft choice, which no team's going to

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01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:03.960
<v Speaker 1>pay that good gear.

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<v Speaker 3>So right, nobody, nobody, nobody in the in the in

1119
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 3>the NFL is going to do that. You know, if

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<v Speaker 3>he was like if he was like a few years younger,

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01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:17.079
<v Speaker 3>maybe yeah, not not now, I mean, you know, with

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01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 3>with his age and all that stuff. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they dissed out the dough for the dough,

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01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 3>the ray and the me for mister Hitler for uh

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<v Speaker 3>te jamarg p Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So but I you know, with this, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I know, your contract unless.

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<v Speaker 3>You I mean, that's like you want more money and saying, hey,

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01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:44.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm making eight million dollars already a year from for

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01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:45.880
<v Speaker 3>the radio. I want him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, what happens if the shoes on the other foot?

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01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Well what if the shoes on the foot and the

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01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Bengals go and they signed up for fifteen million bucks

1136
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:56.039
<v Speaker 1>this year? And the Bengals say, you know, Trey, you

1137
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>had a bad year. In fact, you only had three

1138
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:01.480
<v Speaker 1>sacks this year. We want to change the contract. We

1139
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.880
<v Speaker 1>want to pay you less money. Would Trey Henderson say, okay,

1140
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you can pay me less money. He would say, no,

1141
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we got a contract. We got a contract. Get me

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01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the stort, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the thing, ever, there's two with the Jamar Stewart.

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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean they haven't signed him yet. I mean, and

1145
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 3>he had he had. I think I could play college

1146
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.039
<v Speaker 3>football and get three and a half or four sacks

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01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:27.480
<v Speaker 3>a year and four years. I mean, come on, I

1148
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 3>think I could. My my fat rear end could do

1149
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:34.079
<v Speaker 3>that in the college football, couldn't you? Well?

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01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I got a report here segment that the Bengals will

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01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 1>open September the seventeen. I'm sorry, Bengals open September seventh

1152
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:46.119
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland at a one o'clock game. That's an unconfirmed

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01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:52.000
<v Speaker 1>report from an insider. Bengals Browns Sunday, one pm, September seventh.

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01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Your reaction to that, that's an inside source I have

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01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals, So.

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01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 3>That would be that would be the season opener.

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01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in Cleveland, in Cleveland one o'clock, I might.

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01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 3>As well get the Battle of Ohio ready to go?

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01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Segment, Get me out there, wonder.

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01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Who's gonna wonder who's going to quarterback?

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01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Then Shedur Sanders, I guess, give me out of the

1162
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.119
<v Speaker 1>stooge reord, give me out. Please, get me out of

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01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:17.960
<v Speaker 1>steuge report.

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01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Willie and a stay here at the Thrice data at

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01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.679
<v Speaker 3>the i MS. We leave you with the immortal words

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01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:26.840
<v Speaker 3>of the stoo report.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you bet on baseball? Yes?

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01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 8>I did? And uh that was my mistake not coming

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01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 8>clean a lot earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Two words were never spoken. Segment. Thank you very much. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's continue with more news coming up and so much

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<v Speaker 1>more at your home of the Reds and Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred wl WI Billy counting into Great America.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the night waited for for a very long time.

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01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose is l now for the Hall of fame,

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01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.960
<v Speaker 1>see what happens down the road and the first pitch

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01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to night. It's about seven fourteen, but there's about forty thousand,

1178
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand desperate Reds fans wanting to come to the

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01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 1>ballpark to honor Pete Rose. It's raining right now, but

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01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>guess what, it looks much better in the next couple hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And Karen Forgus is the executive vice president of Your

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Resident And Karen Forgus, welcome again to the Bill

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01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. And Karen, for those desperate Reds fans that

1184
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 1>are in their cars coming in getting ready kind of layout,

1185
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen tonight, starting maybe about five o'clock,

1186
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and how things work out. The weather, by the way,

1187
01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 1>is breaking. It's going to be good.

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01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Rain.

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01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 9>It's actually brightened up about ten shades. Since you had

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01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.159
<v Speaker 9>me on hold listening to the best bumper music in radio,

1191
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 9>I might mention, yeah, So okay, here's what's going on.

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01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 9>We have sold almost forty four thousand tickets to this

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01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 9>thing because it's about Pete, and Pete was about the fans.

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01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 9>This was something back in the fall when he passed,

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01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.960
<v Speaker 9>his family said the number one thing we want is

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01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 9>to do something where we can make sure that the

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01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 9>fans know my dad played for them. So that's really

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01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.039
<v Speaker 9>what this whole game is about. We just did the

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<v Speaker 9>dedication over a bold faced park where they named the

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01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 9>ball field where Pete grew up in his name, and

1201
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.920
<v Speaker 9>it was packed, you know, and that was rain. So anyway,

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01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:25.000
<v Speaker 9>there's just a lot of amazing things going on for

1203
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 9>the ballpark tonight. So if you are a season ticket holder,

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01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:30.159
<v Speaker 9>our gates are going to open at five fourteen for

1205
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 9>those folks. Everybody else they open at five forty four.

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01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 9>Everybody's getting the Pete Rose jersey. We decided to do

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01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 9>the road uniform he wore during the Big Red Machine

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01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 9>World Series victories in seventy five in Boston, seventy six

1209
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 9>New York. We did that because he always said he

1210
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 9>loved having Cincinnati across his chest. Everybody's going to get

1211
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.280
<v Speaker 9>one of those, So get here when the door's opened,

1212
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 9>but you don't need to. Everybody's going to get when

1213
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:58.719
<v Speaker 9>no one needs to panic. But we do want you

1214
01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 9>in your seats no or no, you know, later than

1215
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.559
<v Speaker 9>six thirty because that's when we're going to kind of

1216
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 9>start the pre game. We're going to honor Pete throughout

1217
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:08.559
<v Speaker 9>the game, every inning break, we'll be doing things around

1218
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:12.199
<v Speaker 9>Pete's career. But the real crown jewel, you'll get to

1219
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 9>hear from the family. You're going to get to hear

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01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 9>from his teammates, people he coached. That's all happening starting

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01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.320
<v Speaker 9>at six thirty on field with Marty Brennman as the EMC.

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01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 1>You know Karen Fogus the Reds, and I said this

1223
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:27.599
<v Speaker 1>on the air. No organization does special events like the

1224
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Reds and it's amazing. And when Pete spoke about these

1225
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>events happening after his death, he said, the main reason

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01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I like him to happen is not for me. I'll

1227
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:38.960
<v Speaker 1>be dead. Hopefully i'll know what's going on, but i'll

1228
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.480
<v Speaker 1>be dead. But I want it for my family. And

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01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:44.559
<v Speaker 1>he said my family is an extended family that he

1230
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.320
<v Speaker 1>wants to come there and let them revel in the

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01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 1>glory of their father, their grandfather, their friend, their uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>So five fourteen pm this afternoon, if you're a season

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01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.400
<v Speaker 1>ticket holder, five forty four. If you're not a season

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01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.079
<v Speaker 1>ticket holder, but you got to, I'd encourage people to

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01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:03.920
<v Speaker 1>line up early because you got forty thousand people coming.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you do you do? And the first pitch is

1237
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 9>not until seven fourteen, which is nice, and that gives

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01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 9>us plenty of time for all the other stuff. And

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01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:14.880
<v Speaker 9>our fans have done this before when we've done Hall

1240
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.880
<v Speaker 9>of Fame inductions, they know to get there early to

1241
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.199
<v Speaker 9>see the pregame program. And in this case, we've got

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01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.960
<v Speaker 9>an amazing kind of question and answer. We're going to

1243
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.399
<v Speaker 9>have Foster and Griffy Senior his teammates. We're gonna have

1244
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 9>Eric Davis who he coached. We're gonna have Lark and

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01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 9>who he coached. We're going to have then Marty asking

1246
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:36.239
<v Speaker 9>them questions about Pete. And then we're going to obviously

1247
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:39.479
<v Speaker 9>hear from the family, which will be great. Then really cool,

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<v Speaker 9>right before the anthem, which is going to be sung

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01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.800
<v Speaker 9>by fourteen members of West Highs Choir where Pete wearers

1250
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 9>went to school, we're going to do a fourteen second

1251
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 9>kind of moment of remembrance, but we're going to do

1252
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.159
<v Speaker 9>a countdown counting up, so right before the anthem, get

1253
01:08:57.159 --> 01:08:59.399
<v Speaker 9>everybody's attention, which is going to be really cool. We're

1254
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.399
<v Speaker 9>going to do that. Then his kids, there's grandkids. Actually

1255
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:04.479
<v Speaker 9>that's what the four siblings said. We want all the

1256
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 9>grandkids to do the first pitch, do the game ball delivery,

1257
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:11.119
<v Speaker 9>be captain of the game, which I think is going

1258
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:14.199
<v Speaker 9>to be really, really great. And then we will call

1259
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.720
<v Speaker 9>everybody to attention in the ballpark during the game where

1260
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:20.439
<v Speaker 9>we're going to ask everybody here to put their jersey on.

1261
01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 9>And that is going to look amazing. Can you imagine.

1262
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's going to be unbelievable. So it's very celebratory.

1263
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 9>We've got to your point. We've got red carpet we

1264
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:34.039
<v Speaker 9>laid around his statue all the way to the main gates.

1265
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.399
<v Speaker 9>We've got flowers all around his statue that are celebratory.

1266
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:40.880
<v Speaker 9>We've got his name Pete, and big letters and lights

1267
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 9>outside the gates so people can get a picture. We've

1268
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:46.119
<v Speaker 9>got number fourteen on the inside. And there's just going

1269
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:48.720
<v Speaker 9>to be stuffed throughout the whole ballpark about Pete. Every

1270
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.319
<v Speaker 9>inning break about Pete. It's going to be great. Even

1271
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:54.640
<v Speaker 9>our players are going to wear a fourteen T shirt

1272
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:57.560
<v Speaker 9>for batting practice today. That was rich Stoe. He's like, hey,

1273
01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.239
<v Speaker 9>let's get this done. I want to honor Pete with

1274
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.640
<v Speaker 9>his So that's all going on today. It's just really

1275
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:05.319
<v Speaker 9>about all that is good and right, and with the

1276
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:09.640
<v Speaker 9>news coming out yesterday, that just makes it so much nicer.

1277
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.600
<v Speaker 9>You know, we don't have to deal with that question.

1278
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 9>You know, what should happen now we know we know

1279
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:17.960
<v Speaker 9>he's going to get the consideration he deserves for Cooperstown.

1280
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:21.239
<v Speaker 9>And what a thrilling kind of last era to have

1281
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:23.840
<v Speaker 9>before we open these gates tonight. It's just awesome.

1282
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1283
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:26.720
<v Speaker 1>A couple hours ago I had on the Marty Brannaman

1284
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this, and I've read everything, and I

1285
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can read the last day or two and this is

1286
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.960
<v Speaker 1>my personal view. It was a pathetic that Major League

1287
01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Baseball waited until he was dead for about eight months

1288
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:43.359
<v Speaker 1>before they made him eligible. That is something Pete wanted

1289
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 1>during the living years, and I knew it. Everyone thought

1290
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.079
<v Speaker 1>it was coming after the President got involved and met

1291
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 1>with Rob Manfred and did this and did that, and

1292
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 1>eight months ago. It would have meant a lot more

1293
01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.439
<v Speaker 1>for Pete during the living years to understand these eligible

1294
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:02.199
<v Speaker 1>for the Hall of Fame. Whether it happens in twenty

1295
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:05.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven or twenty thirty, that's another matter, but at

1296
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.359
<v Speaker 1>least to be eligible is something. Do you have sense?

1297
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Karen Fogus of the reds about whether is that something

1298
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:16.199
<v Speaker 1>over with forget about or is that something kind of

1299
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:17.199
<v Speaker 1>great to you a little bit?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, today at the Boldfaced Park, Fawn Rose took

1301
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.800
<v Speaker 9>the microphone and the first words out of her mouth was,

1302
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:26.800
<v Speaker 9>I got.

1303
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:26.920
<v Speaker 3>To tell you.

1304
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 9>She said, I have to thank Commissioner Manford. I visited

1305
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.920
<v Speaker 9>him in December. He cared, he listened, he heard this,

1306
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 9>he was an advocate of this, He's been working on this.

1307
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.279
<v Speaker 9>He stayed in touch with us. So if there's no

1308
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:43.000
<v Speaker 9>bad blood between the remaining Rose family and the Commissioner

1309
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.600
<v Speaker 9>of Baseball, then we're going to follow suit, honestly. And

1310
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.399
<v Speaker 9>the best thing for my chair is the fact that Cooperstown,

1311
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 9>you know, came out right after you know that there

1312
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 9>was no hanging chad of what's what does this mean?

1313
01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.039
<v Speaker 9>So I do think that at least we got we

1314
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:02.199
<v Speaker 9>got there. We got there, and there's no doubt for forever,

1315
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, it is it's a shame that the you know,

1316
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 9>the numbers this guy put up as a player. We

1317
01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 9>we'll see in our videos tonight. You know, we talked

1318
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:12.800
<v Speaker 9>to all of our current players about Pete. Again. A

1319
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.720
<v Speaker 9>lot of them think of their age, right, but they

1320
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.119
<v Speaker 9>know now that they're playing and we talk about his numbers,

1321
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:22.079
<v Speaker 9>their jaws are just like, I mean, that's just unbelievable.

1322
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 9>I mean, I don't know how and my best you know,

1323
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't get there, you know, so he he's kind

1324
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 9>of outside of time. So the fact I'm not going

1325
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.359
<v Speaker 9>to get hung up on the timing. Let's get our

1326
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:35.000
<v Speaker 9>shoulders on the boulder to get him in right, Let's

1327
01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 9>get him in and then look out when that happens,

1328
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:38.399
<v Speaker 9>Oh my god.

1329
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, if the family is on board, and if Fawn

1330
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and Pete and Tyme and who am I? I? Who

1331
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.640
<v Speaker 1>are you? I mean you're not family members. So if

1332
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the family says they want it, I'm with it one

1333
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand percent. Secondly, Bristol, Tennessee. I've seen on TV some

1334
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 1>of the NASCAR racing there bumper bumper to bumper, and

1335
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:03.600
<v Speaker 1>August the second, there's still tickets available, the Reds are

1336
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 1>going to play. I think the Atlanta Braves explain what's

1337
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 1>happening in Bristol, Tennessee on August the second.

1338
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:11.439
<v Speaker 9>You know, MLB's kind of started this thing where they

1339
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.119
<v Speaker 9>like to take games and play them in non traditional locations.

1340
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 9>So Bristol Tennessee. The famous, famous Great NASCAR track sits

1341
01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:23.600
<v Speaker 9>right squarely in Red Country that overlaps with Braves Country.

1342
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:27.399
<v Speaker 9>So they picked our two teams, took our regularly scheduled game,

1343
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 9>and they're gonna PLoP it right in the middle of

1344
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:31.520
<v Speaker 9>that infield. So I got to go down and see it,

1345
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.239
<v Speaker 9>and I got to tell you it's unbelievable. So as

1346
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:39.079
<v Speaker 9>you can imagine, the infield of a NASCAR track is

1347
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:40.800
<v Speaker 9>got a little bit of a diffinand it's like a

1348
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 9>big old bowl, if you will. So starting the first

1349
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.399
<v Speaker 9>or second week here of June, when they get their

1350
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.319
<v Speaker 9>last event over in Bristol, MLB is going to be

1351
01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:50.720
<v Speaker 9>in there with a swat team of people. It's going

1352
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 9>to take months to level out. They're gonna have to

1353
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 9>level the infield, They're going to have to construct a

1354
01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:01.399
<v Speaker 9>durrainable baseball field and have to construct dugouts, clubhouses, and

1355
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:03.960
<v Speaker 9>it is going to be unbelievable. And the thing that

1356
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.079
<v Speaker 9>makes it anybody who's been to Bristol knows this, because

1357
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 9>if I was a newbie, they have hanging in the

1358
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:13.800
<v Speaker 9>middle of their infield, over the center of an outdoor

1359
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:19.319
<v Speaker 9>NASCAR facility, a massive three story scoreboard. This it's going

1360
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 9>to they call Colossus. It's the kind of thing you'd

1361
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 9>see in the middle of an arena that can hang

1362
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.640
<v Speaker 9>from a ceiling. They have this massive thing in the

1363
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.479
<v Speaker 9>middle that is going to that. Therefore, they had to

1364
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.399
<v Speaker 9>kind of justify the ball field over to one end

1365
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:34.680
<v Speaker 9>so that the fly balls don't get caught up in

1366
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 9>that thing. But it is going to be amazing. So

1367
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 9>they've already obviously one far end of the seats won't

1368
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.800
<v Speaker 9>be sold because they're a little too far away from

1369
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.479
<v Speaker 9>the action. But they've already named you know, they're going

1370
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:48.319
<v Speaker 9>to have the big concert in the beginning.

1371
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's going to be great.

1372
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1373
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:51.079
<v Speaker 3>It's just one of those.

1374
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 9>Things that if you like NASCAR, if you dislike baseball,

1375
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 9>or you like doing something unique and you like driving

1376
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.319
<v Speaker 9>to the beautiful state of Tennessee, I forgetting your car

1377
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 9>and go. They're gonna have an outdoor fan you know,

1378
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:06.720
<v Speaker 9>experience a fan expo going on. That's gonna open at

1379
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 9>noon and then the gates will open around five to

1380
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:13.560
<v Speaker 9>get inside, and then they'll be the concerts. It's with

1381
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:17.319
<v Speaker 9>Tim McGraw that starts at six and the games at seven. Fifteen.

1382
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 9>I think it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be amazing.

1383
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:21.520
<v Speaker 3>And I can't even tell.

1384
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:23.800
<v Speaker 9>You all the pregame stuff they're gonna do, you know,

1385
01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:25.800
<v Speaker 9>but it's just one of those things that raised the hats,

1386
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.199
<v Speaker 9>always raised our hand. We're like field of dreams. We're

1387
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 9>in whatever wherever you want to send us, we're going.

1388
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.920
<v Speaker 9>We went to Medxico from Monterey when we played down there, right,

1389
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 9>So we're always we're we always raise our hand.

1390
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 3>We'll go.

1391
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 1>The thing that's amazing about Tim McGraw says dad was

1392
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Tug McGraw, and I think he was a teammate of

1393
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Pete rose Is in nineteen eighty is that correct when

1394
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they won the World Series?

1395
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:47.760
<v Speaker 9>He was, he was as a matter of fact, he

1396
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 9>talked about that. That's gonna be part of what I

1397
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 9>think they do with all the pre publicity with him,

1398
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:53.600
<v Speaker 9>which is fun. And this Saturday, so this weekend when

1399
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.680
<v Speaker 9>we're playing Cleveland, we're doing a racing night team here because,

1400
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 9>as seg Man will testify, there's a lot of racing

1401
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 9>fans on your listening area. Yes, so we've got these

1402
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.960
<v Speaker 9>we got these awesome cars of mister Red leg and

1403
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 9>we're giving them away. I mean the kind of things

1404
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 9>we're gonna do this weekend here. It's gonna be really

1405
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.600
<v Speaker 9>fun and we're gonna seem it out big, just like

1406
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 9>we did when we did Star Wars Night. So that's

1407
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:14.640
<v Speaker 9>gonna be Anybody who likes racing, come down here and

1408
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:16.720
<v Speaker 9>watch us play the Guardian set right, it'll be fun.

1409
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Thousands and thousands of dump trucks filled with dirt to

1410
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 1>fill in and to rise the level of Bristol Motor Speedway.

1411
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 1>And then that's gonna take at least two months. August,

1412
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the second tickets are still available. Sixty well sixty thousand

1413
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 1>have been sold and there's another maybe twenty thousand to sell,

1414
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:37.399
<v Speaker 1>is that correct? Plus you get to see Tim mcbroough.

1415
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I love it. I want some more

1416
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.279
<v Speaker 1>of it. I mean, unbelievable exactly.

1417
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:43.439
<v Speaker 9>It's just the say you did, why not? It's you know,

1418
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:45.800
<v Speaker 9>it's August, it's the dog days of summer. Go go

1419
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:47.239
<v Speaker 9>have some fun, all.

1420
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Right once again, Karen Foregus of your Cincinnati Reds. No

1421
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:53.399
<v Speaker 1>one does these things better than the Reds. Get their

1422
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:57.680
<v Speaker 1>early gates open five fourteen for season ticket holders, five

1423
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:00.640
<v Speaker 1>forty four for the rest got it in your seat

1424
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 1>by six point thirty when the program begins with but

1425
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Marty's going to be there with Barry Larkin and Griffy

1426
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Senior and George Foster and Eric Davis on the field

1427
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and then special things Tither and fro and it's going

1428
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to be special. The weather's cooperating. Thank god, this is

1429
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>coming through now, and Steve Rawley says by three o'clock

1430
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.399
<v Speaker 1>it should be completely over with and things are clean

1431
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and green, and hopefully the Reds can score more than

1432
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>one run. That's the goal tonight.

1433
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:29.359
<v Speaker 9>Let's go Pete. Let's get him fired up up there

1434
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:29.720
<v Speaker 9>with you.

1435
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Please, Karen Forgus, Executive vice President of the Reds, once again,

1436
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:35.920
<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we'll

1437
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.680
<v Speaker 1>do it again. Thank you, Karen, Thanks for you see you.

1438
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Now let's continue with more unbelievable Bristol Motor Speedway. Thousands

1439
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 1>of dump trucks to convert Bristol Motor Speedway into a

1440
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 1>baseball field. August the second and sixty thousand tickets have

1441
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:54.560
<v Speaker 1>been sold as whatever the sellout is going to be.

1442
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Segment tells me, I think there's one hundred thousand seats

1443
01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:00.159
<v Speaker 1>and by the configuration makes it more diffa we'll go

1444
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.479
<v Speaker 1>out to play baseball in a Bristol motor speedway similar

1445
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to the Field of Dreams. You might recall the Reds

1446
01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.479
<v Speaker 1>went to the Field of Dreams in Iowa where Kevin

1447
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Costner had the movie, and I walked through the cornfield

1448
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.439
<v Speaker 1>and walk in and play baseball. It's it's incredible. I

1449
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 1>wish the team between the white lines was as good

1450
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:20.399
<v Speaker 1>as the marketing staff of the Cincinnati Reds if they award,

1451
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.640
<v Speaker 1>If they would be, they'd beat the White Sox. If

1452
01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you can't beat the White Sox the night in tomorrow

1453
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<v Speaker 1>and not, I'd be shocked. All let's continue with more

1454
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and if the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:32.279
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand plus at this event August the second, Tim

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:36.199
<v Speaker 1>McGraw for an hour's concert ahead of time and can't

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01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 1>get much better. I letus continue two twenty three Home

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<v Speaker 1>of Your Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 8>When you get into a wall, you never admit you're

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01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 8>in a swamp. Don't ever let a picture tell you

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01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:48.880
<v Speaker 8>that you're in a swamp. I would tell people, do

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01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:50.760
<v Speaker 8>you do one of six things when they get into

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01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:51.159
<v Speaker 8>a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they are? Yeah, okay, no, tell me

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01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:54.079
<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 8>Closer to the pate for the way from the plate,

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01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 8>up in the box, back in the box, choke up

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01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:03.920
<v Speaker 8>in the bat more, choke down the bat more, make

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01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 8>it heavier, make it lighter. Never change your swing. Your

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01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.680
<v Speaker 8>swing got into the big lakes. You change your positioning.

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01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:15.000
<v Speaker 8>Uh in the batter's box. The only way you could

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01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 8>jam me is I swung the ball that far inside.

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01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 8>But I went into everything. I used to think I

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01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:22.279
<v Speaker 8>could hit the ball inside to right to left field

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01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 8>batting left handed better than I could the other way,

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01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:27.680
<v Speaker 8>because you get all your power when you go like that.

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01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.720
<v Speaker 8>All right, I can have the same swing that's going

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01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.199
<v Speaker 8>to left field, this is going to center field.

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01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>This is pooling.

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<v Speaker 8>Just a difference in more where my hands are, same swing. Wow,

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<v Speaker 8>pretty simple, Pete, that's church.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello quiet, I'm broadcasting.

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01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:59.960
<v Speaker 1>God, you know segment. Maybe possibly, Pete, the last few

1484
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.760
<v Speaker 1>words could be played in the locker room tonight, because

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01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>every one of the Reds are in a slump except

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01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Dela Cruz. Gonna move up in the box, move back

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01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in the box, Choke up a little bit, choke down

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01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, move forward, move back, move up, move down.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with the Reds hitting segment? I need to know.

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01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Right now, Willie, that that's everything they need to get it.

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01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Wait for the plate, closer to the plate. Up in

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01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:26.760
<v Speaker 3>the box, knack in the box, joke up on the bats,

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01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.159
<v Speaker 3>go down on the bat, or do whatever I mean,

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01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 3>and one of them do one one of them do

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01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:32.920
<v Speaker 3>the other, and then the other one. Then they all switch.

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01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:36.279
<v Speaker 3>That's what they want to do. But Pete Rose right there, Willie,

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01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.680
<v Speaker 3>that is advice for any young hitters. I don't care

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01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 3>if it's not hool or whatever face pall it is

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01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 3>at college is something he was the proof of hitting.

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01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean that guy who was I mean that dip.

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01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's no forty six hips, nobody else that

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01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.000
<v Speaker 3>knew more about hitting the number fourteen. And they're going

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01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:01.920
<v Speaker 3>to do it tonight. Actually, Willie, it started here at

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01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:06.119
<v Speaker 3>about what twenty minutes live three o'clock at the Holy Grail.

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01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.279
<v Speaker 3>They're going to have the seven out of ww A

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01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Ciscinnati Tack Resolugent pea party presented by Columbia Hunt dot

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01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Com five down there at the Holy Grail, getting ready

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01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:19.239
<v Speaker 3>for the safe game. The night on Rose night if

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01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 3>they honor him and a sold out crowd will be

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01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:26.399
<v Speaker 3>on hand, and hopefully the Reds will figure out their

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01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.359
<v Speaker 3>hitting for one night, maybe score for over thirteen run

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01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.119
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, go back to I don't know.

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01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's the roller coaster affairs. So far

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01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.159
<v Speaker 3>will he for this with his baseball team and hitting

1515
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:42.239
<v Speaker 3>and scoring runs and trying not to run into each

1516
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:45.439
<v Speaker 3>other in the outfields that last night I could have

1517
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:49.000
<v Speaker 3>been ugly with with Steer and Li Dayla Cruz and

1518
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Dayla Cruise almost ran in the cabin luck someday in Houston.

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01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'll say if Gordon Veterino was the

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01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>fundamental coach for the Thomas Funeral Home, and he will

1521
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.119
<v Speaker 1>tell you, right, Spencer, if you're going to go, go,

1522
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but if you get in, if you stop and have

1523
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.079
<v Speaker 1>to go back, guess what get in a pickle, because

1524
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:09.199
<v Speaker 1>then you get Benson, who was on first could get

1525
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the second. During the pickle. Everything Spencer Steer did was wrong.

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01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:16.159
<v Speaker 1>According to Gordon Veterino. They run into each other. It's

1527
01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like the Bad News Bears. They throw to the wrong base.

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01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:21.159
<v Speaker 1>They try to get somebody out at home, allowing the

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01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>runner to go to second. Fundamentally, they stink. And I'm

1530
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>thinking to this point, Tito Francona maybe saying to the

1531
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer Marty Brenneman, what the hell did you

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01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>get me into?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know whether I think manager Francona to figure

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01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:40.359
<v Speaker 3>it out day by day because he is uh. I

1535
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 3>don't know. They come up with a different problem almost

1536
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:46.680
<v Speaker 3>on a daily paper. But hopefully tonight they can, right yep,

1537
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.039
<v Speaker 3>And they could beat the White Sucks today tomorrow and

1538
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:53.399
<v Speaker 3>then go into the you know, they they got to

1539
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:56.640
<v Speaker 3>get some momentum, will either for this weekend because it's

1540
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:58.479
<v Speaker 3>the battle at the start of the battle for the

1541
01:22:58.479 --> 01:22:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Ohio Cup.

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01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy Guardians, and you.

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01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Know he's been on he's been on the winning end

1544
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:06.359
<v Speaker 3>of the on the Ohio Cup for the past few years.

1545
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And the Reds are not.

1546
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.479
<v Speaker 1>The Reds are five games out of first place. I

1547
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 1>think they've gone two and eight the last ten games.

1548
01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>And this is supposedly the soft part of the schedule.

1549
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>If you can't beat the White Sox, hell, you can't

1550
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>beat anybody. The White Sox stink well and well that.

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01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Was their first win last night on the roads in

1552
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:29.760
<v Speaker 3>late April and they're only their fourth away from Johntown

1553
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and the Reds are zero to five and extra innings.

1554
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 3>They put a guy at second base for a free run.

1555
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Can't score?

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01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 3>How does that happen?

1557
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Can't scor happen? Can't score?

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01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.039
<v Speaker 3>You get a runner at second and it's like, Okay,

1559
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:45.920
<v Speaker 3>get him you know, get him over, get him.

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01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>In, get him up, get him over, get him in.

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01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the second let's see.

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01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Uh the soon reporters of service of your local pem

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1565
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>The Bengals twenty twenty five schedules than will be released tonight.

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01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:13.399
<v Speaker 3>It's the Aey Door and Window presented by Bill and

1567
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Adam Webber, NFL schedular release Party Live tonight Smote Justice

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<v Speaker 3>to Site and Covington on ESPN fifteen thirty. Like you said, Willie,

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01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>looks like the Frangals are going to open Act Cleveland

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01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:28.479
<v Speaker 3>and the opener and then week two will be the

1571
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:31.520
<v Speaker 3>home opener for the Bengals at take Horse Stadium against

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01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:36.159
<v Speaker 3>those Jacksonville Daguarres. But that's only that's only rumors going around.

1573
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's two and oh big Cleveland. I don't know

1574
01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Sander's going to be the quarterback. One o'clock September the seventh,

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01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>they beat Cleveland, come home with big Jacksonville. Let's not

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01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>go oh and three. You know what I'm saying, Can

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01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you smell when I'm coming?

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01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.039
<v Speaker 3>That would be advisable not to go over at the

1579
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:55.079
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the season and then work your way out

1580
01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:57.560
<v Speaker 3>of a hole with a lot of the teams that

1581
01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:00.840
<v Speaker 3>you know that they're not going to play you know, uh,

1582
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>you know they're they're they're going to play tough games,

1583
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.239
<v Speaker 3>eating every week, and you know, don't start out to

1584
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>and oh the point that the city will go for dark, well.

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01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>At least not to look go zero in three. And

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01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:16.279
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty easy schedule. In fact, how about this

1587
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>old fact toy segment. Someone made a list of the

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01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>NFL teams at thirty two as far as how many

1589
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>miles they're going to travel and all their away games

1590
01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:29.079
<v Speaker 1>last thirty two they travel eight thousand miles total, and

1591
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:33.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the teams travel thirty thousand miles. Everything.

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01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota's got to go to Europe flight.

1593
01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to tell you. I see a

1594
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>crisis everywhere, nothing but a crisis.

1595
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.119
<v Speaker 3>And the left Procer tonight when they are beloved, Orange

1596
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and Blue on the road at Toronto Left at seven o'clock.

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01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Sports thirteen sixty College Basketball, the Skyline, Chilly crossedown Food.

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01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Reportedly it's set for Friday, December, fifth year Team Xavier

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01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.640
<v Speaker 3>at the Simpok Center Friday night.

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01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>How about that?

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01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:05.359
<v Speaker 3>How about that? Well?

1602
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I also, of course I talked to Karen Kraft about Bristol.

1603
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>You know more by listen I do, And she said

1604
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>they're going to fill in the Bristol Motor Speedway spent

1605
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>about nine weeks in construction. They've sold sixty thousand tickets

1606
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch the Reds and the Braves playing Bristol Motor

1607
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Speedway on Red in August the second. And they have

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01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Tim McGraw, whose dad, Tug McGraw that he got sideways

1609
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:34.239
<v Speaker 1>with you know, Live like you were dying, was on

1610
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the team in nineteen eighty where Pete Rose won the

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01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>World championship with Tony Perez. Correct, Tug McGraw, wasn't he

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01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the reliever?

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct? That's correct. Lily and then Happy birthday to

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01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:47.720
<v Speaker 3>the Big Dog and the former Reds manager today number

1615
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:51.720
<v Speaker 3>twenty four Tony Perez the faith Dog. When you wanted

1616
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.479
<v Speaker 3>an RBI, he was the man you wanted it. The plate.

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01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.199
<v Speaker 1>How old? How old is the Big Dog?

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01:26:58.920 --> 01:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:02.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't have, but seventy something, probably your closet.

1620
01:27:02.279 --> 01:27:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Eighty gotta be you gotta be eighty something.

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01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Living down there in Miyami. But the Big Dog is

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01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:10.359
<v Speaker 3>their Happy birthday to the double.

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01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Let the Big Dog eat. He was born in the

1624
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>May fort Hey. There it is again, he was born

1625
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>May fourteenth, nineteen forty two segment you believe it or not?

1626
01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>There that makes him eighty three years old. Eighty three

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01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>It looks it looking like a million. It looks pretty good.

1628
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, So I don't know. I mean, you know,

1629
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 3>just get a win tonight on Pete Rose Knight willly

1630
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and make everybody happy and a sold out crowd.

1631
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I got some text here from your good friends

1632
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>at WEBN, including Sarah Elise and Kid Chris, taking you

1633
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to task for saying that Trey Hendrickson should get a

1634
01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>contract extension when he's already signed. This year he put

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01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>his blood and black ink on a piece of paper,

1636
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>well represented by agents and lawyers, that I will pay

1637
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I will play in twenty twenty five for like sixteen

1638
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>million dollars for the Bengals. I give my word, I'm

1639
01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. And then as a Christian man,

1640
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>he turns his back. Was like Jesus Christ with the

1641
01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>money changers and said, I'm not going to play, even

1642
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>though I promised to pay to play this year for

1643
01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 1>sixteen million dollars. Why do you defend Trey Hendrickson.

1644
01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1645
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>That's no answer.

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01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:30.439
<v Speaker 3>You asked me question. I'm kind of disappointed. I don't

1647
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:33.680
<v Speaker 3>have a Peinte Rose whiz from you know who. I

1648
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 3>don't want to bring up his dame, but you know,

1649
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:39.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm surprised you don't have to answer seventy five questions

1650
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>to prove that I'm a big Pete Rose fan. Today.

1651
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, all I can say I have.

1652
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Bruce Poaching, Steve Rogers, Jim Hickman. Hit that ball that

1653
01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>knocks the Pete in at an All Star game. Carmelo Melo, Mello,

1654
01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Carmelo Marquitez. Field of the ball forty one nine maybe

1655
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.359
<v Speaker 3>two out in the amlefield and the left all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, here's the question from the wild Man for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 1>It was a Crosley field and they were playing the

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01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh the first hit that Pete Rose had. It was

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01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a crosley field. What team did they play? Who was

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01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:21.239
<v Speaker 1>on the mound, and what kind of hit did Pete

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01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Rose get? That's from the wild Man.

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01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 3>What it's like three and one? Now it is?

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01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on? What is it?

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01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 3>I look at it?

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01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>What is I know that automatically it was Pittsburgh Pirates.

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01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>The picture was Bob Friend and he hit a triple.

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01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:46.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was going to say.

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01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:49.399
<v Speaker 1>You were gonna say, Bob Friend of the Pittsburgh Pirates.

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01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Really, yep, yep, I was at a triple.

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01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That's true. And then what was his last hit? Who

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01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:58.359
<v Speaker 1>did he get his last hit off of? And uh

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01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:00.439
<v Speaker 1>what team did he get to? It was nineteen eighty

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01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>six with the Reds.

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01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Well, I had that question yesterday. I'm not receding answered.

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01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, But who was catching when pe Rose got

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01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>forty one ninety two at Riverfront Stadium? That's correct, Bruce Coach,

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01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>who did pretty well managing, I think correct.

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01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.199
<v Speaker 3>And his last out was a strikeout by Goustsy.

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01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>That's correct too, but wild Man, I knew Bob Friend

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01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:32.039
<v Speaker 1>April the ninth, nineteen sixty three triple at Pittsburgh.

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01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Car Yeah, everybody knows that.

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01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Everybody. That was an easy one. I'm surprised you, miss,

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01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised a right segment. Where are you now? Where

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01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>are you now?

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01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:43.039
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I made it to paint, so Willie

1687
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm heading home.

1688
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>How how was carbration day at the speedway.

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01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>The Indianapolis Motors Speedway of Knights and Sunshine. It's dry

1690
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>after the few monks rain this morning, there was delayed

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01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:00.399
<v Speaker 3>everything for about five four or five hours. But they're

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01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 3>on the track and then they're getting ready for qualifying

1693
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 3>this under this weekend.

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01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, the other thing is the weather here looks pretty good.

1695
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You're about thirty forty miles west of here. Is the

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01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:13.159
<v Speaker 1>still raining in Batesville.

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01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.159
<v Speaker 3>No, it's beautiful sunshine and blue sky here at the

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01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Faithsville McDonald.

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01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>In fact, in fact, in about an hour is going

1700
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to be uh river front. I mean, a great American

1701
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>ballpark's going to be bathed in sunshine. The weather's going

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01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to look great. And once again Karen Craft said, if

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01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>you're a season ticket holder, which I'm sure you are,

1704
01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:36.039
<v Speaker 1>gates open at five fourteen. If you're not a season

1705
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>ticket holder, gates open at five forty four, according to

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01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Karen Craft Karen Fororgus, and then you've got to be

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01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a receipt by six point thirty for all the festivities

1708
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>involving Marty, Barry Senior Foster and Eric Davis. Is that correct?

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01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Amen to that baby, that's that's that. We're going to

1710
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:54.199
<v Speaker 3>carry that.

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01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Live and give me out of the Stude's report. We have,

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01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of course of business special tomorrow. I will not be

1713
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>with you. The weather looks serviceable until Thursday night segment.

1714
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Give me out of the stooge report.

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01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:07.760
<v Speaker 3>We'll be in honor of a beautiful day here at

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01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:12.600
<v Speaker 3>the crime Statiu. Rose. We think about you every day,

1717
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:16.359
<v Speaker 3>every minute, every hour. You're the greater. We leave you

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01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:19.359
<v Speaker 3>with the immortal word of the report.

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<v Speaker 5>He levels about a couple of times, shall kicks and

1720
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:23.640
<v Speaker 5>he fires.

1721
01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Rose wains. We learn Dawn.

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01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 5>His number forty one ninety two, A live drive single

1723
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:39.439
<v Speaker 5>into loft center piel a clean basin and in this

1724
01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:44.399
<v Speaker 5>pandemonium here at River Prince Stadium, the fire works ex

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01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:50.960
<v Speaker 5>clothing over ahead. The Cincinnati dugout has emptied the applause continues.

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01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:53.560
<v Speaker 6>Out of baton, Rose.

1727
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:58.079
<v Speaker 5>Is completely encircled by his teammates at first base. Bobby

1728
01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:01.720
<v Speaker 5>Brown on the San Diego is coming all the way

1729
01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:06.520
<v Speaker 5>from the third phase, dugout to personally congratulate Pete Rose,

1730
01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:11.119
<v Speaker 5>and the kind of out pouring evagulation that I don't

1731
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:14.239
<v Speaker 5>think you'll ever see an athlete get any more of

1732
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:18.239
<v Speaker 5>little Pete fighting his way through the crowd and Pete

1733
01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:22.840
<v Speaker 5>being hoisted on the shoulders. I'm a couple of his teammates,

1734
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Tony Perez and Dave Concepcion, the last two of the

1735
01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:31.039
<v Speaker 5>Old Guard from the Big Red Machine days of the seventies.

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01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Segment September the eleventh used to mean glory now kind

1737
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of connotes something a little bit different. But it was

1738
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable the journey that Pete Rose made from September the eleventh,

1739
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:48.039
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety five, until he laid on his prison cont

1740
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>in October of nineteen ninety trying to listen on a

1741
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.279
<v Speaker 1>transistor radio the final out when his team, the nineteen

1742
01:33:55.359 --> 01:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>ninety Reds beat the Oakland A's the Bash Boys. He

1743
01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:01.039
<v Speaker 1>was lying in a federal prison and staring at the

1744
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:03.479
<v Speaker 1>season in the dark. You talk about the highest of

1745
01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:07.239
<v Speaker 1>highs and the lowest the low segment. Pete Rose experienced it.

1746
01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>That's for sure, Willie, that's for cure.

1747
01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, we got to run segment. See you soon

1748
01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and God bless you and God bless the family of

1749
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose. Thank you, segment.

1750
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>See you later.

1751
01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more of the festivities. Continue now from

1752
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Grail with all the stars will be there,

1753
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>including Eddie the Rock and the segment's good friend wile

1754
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Man Walker with more questions for him on news radio

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01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.