Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome to Pete Rose Day
Speaker 1: in the City Cincinnati. It is May fourteen, and we're
Speaker 1: going to celebrate the life and times of Pete Rose
Speaker 1: tonight at the ballpark. And of course he was admitted
Speaker 1: back into baseball taking off the ineligible list a day
Speaker 1: or two ago by the Commissioner. My view, that is pathetic.
Speaker 1: It's cool to have a guy die about six months ago,
Speaker 1: and now the memories light the corners of my mind,
Speaker 1: and let's face it, I want to get the perspective
Speaker 1: of the great Hall of Famer Marty Brenneman. Of course,
Speaker 1: tonight the first pitch is seven fourteen PM tonight, White Sox,
Speaker 1: a little Dollo on the mound, and Marty's going to
Speaker 1: be the MC starting. I think about six thirty and
Speaker 1: Marty Browneman and welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Can you tell the American people, the forty thousand fans
Speaker 1: accumulating and congregating to go to the Great American Ballpark?
Speaker 1: What time to get there? I would think a little
Speaker 1: bit early. And then secondly, what's going to happ up
Speaker 1: in between six thirty and seven fourteen.
Speaker 2: Well, they're going to the gates are open at five
Speaker 2: fifteen Bill, and that's a good move.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a.
Speaker 2: Way ahead of when the actual Rose memory ceremonies will
Speaker 2: begin around six thirty. And I think in a early
Speaker 2: class move, the club is giving to everybody who attends tonight.
Speaker 2: Oftentimes it's the first twenty thousand or the first fifteen thousand,
Speaker 2: or whatever the case might be, the club is going
Speaker 2: to give out a facsimile jersey like the one Pete
Speaker 2: wore during the seventy five seventy six Big Red Machine
Speaker 2: World Championship years. At six thirty or thereabouts, I will
Speaker 2: oversee Q and A with Barry Larkin, with Ken Griffy Senior,
Speaker 2: with Eric Davis, and with George Foster, and basically the
Speaker 2: questions are going to deal with Pete Rose the player,
Speaker 2: Pete Rose the teammate, and Pete Rose the manager. And
Speaker 2: those four guys really present a great cross section because
Speaker 2: you know, Larkin, Larkin grew up watching Rose in the
Speaker 2: Big Red Machine teams play, and then eventually Pete became
Speaker 2: Barrie's first manager in the Big leagues, and then Griffy
Speaker 2: was a teammate of his and later a coach, and
Speaker 2: then Foster, of course, is one of the main stays
Speaker 2: of those great clubs in the middle seventies and playing
Speaker 2: with Pete and Eric Davis was both a teammate and
Speaker 2: a guy who Pete managed when Pete was player manager
Speaker 2: of the ball club. So that's a good that's a
Speaker 2: good mix. And then they're going to have I know,
Speaker 2: the Western Hills I don't know what's lee club or
Speaker 2: a singing group from Western Hills High School where Pete went.
Speaker 2: We'll sing the national anthem. Members of the family will
Speaker 2: throw out the first stitch.
Speaker 3: There will be a.
Speaker 2: Fourteen second, you know, a fourteen second memory to commemorate
Speaker 2: or to think about your own personal thought of what
Speaker 2: Pete meant to the city and what he meant to
Speaker 2: this game. And then of course seven fourteen again the
Speaker 2: fourteen comes up his number to kick off the ballgame.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you saw Pete rose.
Speaker 3: Bill.
Speaker 2: I'm tried to remember when the last time it was
Speaker 2: that I saw him. He passed away in September. I
Speaker 2: saw him, No, I saw him on New Year's Eve
Speaker 2: of twenty and twenty four, because he and I were
Speaker 2: together for the second straight year at the Hard Rock
Speaker 2: Casino to make an appearance on New Year's Eve. That
Speaker 2: might have been.
Speaker 3: That might have been.
Speaker 2: I talked to him a lot on the phone, but
Speaker 2: I rarely ever got a chance to see him other
Speaker 2: than when we were thrown together to deal with a function.
Speaker 1: Any day with Pete Rose was a good day, correct,
Speaker 1: whether it was on the phone in person, bubbling, incredible personality,
Speaker 1: fun to be with. What was your reaction when Rob
Speaker 1: Manford finally said, I guess about six seven months after
Speaker 1: Pete's death, Okay, we'll take him off the ineligible list
Speaker 1: along with the other fifteen. What was your initial reaction.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not a.
Speaker 2: Big Rob Manford fan. I think there's an incredible level
Speaker 2: of hypocrisy involving this whole thing. And I've made the
Speaker 2: comment over years and years and years that you can
Speaker 2: hardly turn around at the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown
Speaker 2: without seeing something that Pete did on the field as
Speaker 2: a player that enhanced the interest of.
Speaker 1: The game of baseball.
Speaker 2: So they didn't hesitate using Rows as a player to
Speaker 2: uplift the image of the game and the eyes of
Speaker 2: the fans, and many thousands that went through the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame in Cooperstown every year and every day, but
Speaker 2: yet he was not a lot good enough to be in.
Speaker 2: And I believe me when I tell you, going back
Speaker 2: to the day that he was suspended from the game,
Speaker 2: I agreed one hundred percent with it. I went full
Speaker 2: circle over on the on the ensuing years. But I
Speaker 2: agreed with it because that's the only rule in baseball
Speaker 2: that's on the wall of every clubhouse in Major League Baseball,
Speaker 2: all thirty all thirty franchises. And he broke that rule,
Speaker 2: and he should have been suspended, but not to the
Speaker 2: extent that he ended up being suspended. And the hypocrisy
Speaker 2: of it now is that within a matter of months,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the most transparent thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: There's no element of cloak and dagger here trying to
Speaker 2: hide something, because as you said, it was a matter
Speaker 2: of months he passes, and now they announced that he's
Speaker 2: off the ineligible list. I'm just not a big fan. Granted,
Speaker 2: he should have been suspended. Secondly, and quite honestly, I
Speaker 2: do believe this, And I told the Bill the day
Speaker 2: he was called the West Palm Beach in nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: nine to meet with Peter you Barrot and Bartier Moody Commissioner,
Speaker 2: National League President, and they laid out all the evidence
Speaker 2: they had, and the evidence was irrefutable. You couldn't there
Speaker 2: was And I think that had he laid his he
Speaker 2: fell on the mercy of the court and said, everything
Speaker 2: you got is true, I am guilty as hell. He
Speaker 2: would have been suspended for a period of time and
Speaker 2: we wouldn't even be talking about the possibility of him
Speaker 2: going in the Hall of Fame today.
Speaker 3: Because he would have been in it years ago.
Speaker 2: But I think Pete made him mad because in face
Speaker 2: of overwhelming evidence that he did do it and his
Speaker 2: continued insistence that he didn't, they finally said somewhat vindictively.
Speaker 2: And I know they would never admit this because there's
Speaker 2: no not an ounce of vindictiveness in Rob Manfred's body. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're going to continually lie to us.
Speaker 3: We're going to show you why you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: And I really believe that's the way that whole thing.
Speaker 2: I told him, I said, had you admitted it the
Speaker 2: first day they confronted you with it, Yeah, it's unfortunate
Speaker 2: the way things played out.
Speaker 1: I had on Keith O'Brien and wrote the book Charlie Hustle,
Speaker 1: The Golden Asua baseball friend of mine. Yeah, good, about
Speaker 1: a week ago, and I said to him, what was
Speaker 1: the lowest point of Pete Rose's life? And he related
Speaker 1: to me a conversation he had with Pete in which
Speaker 1: in October of nineteen ninety the last glory run of
Speaker 1: the Reds hopefully they'll be one soon, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it, in which the Reds were just taking
Speaker 1: apart the Oakland A's and Pete was in a prison
Speaker 1: in a little bit of an area where other federal
Speaker 1: inmates were in Marion, and Pete was saying, well, I
Speaker 1: would have done this, I would have done that. Look
Speaker 1: at this, look at that, he said. Near the end,
Speaker 1: he went back to his to sell and he laid
Speaker 1: in bed trying to get the wrap up of the
Speaker 1: game Benziger's catch on the transistor radio and he couldn't
Speaker 1: quite catch it inside the federal prison. And he said,
Speaker 1: Pete Rose looked at the ceiling in October as the
Speaker 1: Reds clinched in Oakland. You had a magnificent call of
Speaker 1: that occurring. And he said Pete's mind was just collapsing
Speaker 1: around the idea that he saw jeth Row, he saw
Speaker 1: Lark and he saw Benziger, he saw Rio. By the way,
Speaker 1: Jose Rio turned sixty years old yesterday, talk about time
Speaker 1: fly and Pete said that that was the lowest point
Speaker 1: of my life. Can you imagine if you go from
Speaker 1: September the eleventh, nineteen eighty five to about four years
Speaker 1: later August ninth, or maybe October of nineteen ninety think
Speaker 1: of the road that Pete Rose traveled from forty one
Speaker 1: ninety two to federal prison staring at the ceiling in
Speaker 1: the dark, trying to get the call of that game. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: It really.
Speaker 2: Is it, Without be questioned, it's incredible. And by the way,
Speaker 2: Keith O'Brien's book's the best book that's ever been written
Speaker 2: about Pete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for those who were the best as down and
Speaker 1: you mentioned what happened in West Pond Beach with you
Speaker 1: Ba Off and I think Fay Vincent was in the
Speaker 1: room and others, and Pete's character was such he could
Speaker 1: not admit to agent there weren't there. At least two
Speaker 1: other occasions were Joe Morgan while he's doing the ESPN game,
Speaker 1: you know, with John Miller, et cetera. Joe Morgan and
Speaker 1: others had Seallea getting close to saying, okay, do this,
Speaker 1: do that, We'll let you back in, and Pete couldn't
Speaker 1: take the next step.
Speaker 3: Not exactly.
Speaker 2: There were at least two occasions where Joe had set
Speaker 2: up a meeting between Bud Ceilely and Pete Rose that
Speaker 2: was just a meeting that no one else would have
Speaker 2: been privy to. It would have been Bud sitting across
Speaker 2: the table from Pete. I don't know whether Joe would
Speaker 2: have been involved in it, probably not knowing Joe as
Speaker 2: well as I did, he wanted no part of that.
Speaker 2: He was Bud Seelely's inside guy. Every time Sea League
Speaker 2: had something that was sensitive at any level relative to
Speaker 2: the game, the first person he would confide in with
Speaker 2: Joe Morgan. Joe had incredible power that people never even
Speaker 2: knew about. And he was also the best friend that
Speaker 2: any human being could ever possibly have. And I told
Speaker 2: Pete a million times everybody should be privileged to have
Speaker 2: a friend like you had in Joe Morgan. And every
Speaker 2: time Joe got this meeting almost certain to take place,
Speaker 2: Pete did or said something that killed it all. And
Speaker 2: you know, Pete, my beautiful wife, who is a very
Speaker 2: bright girl, as a saying, nobody will do more damage
Speaker 2: to you than you'll do to yourself. And Pete was
Speaker 2: probably the poster boy for that, because if you stuck
Speaker 2: a microphone in his face and you talk to him
Speaker 2: live long enough, he's going to say something that will
Speaker 2: hurt him. And those occasions that Joe had set up
Speaker 2: meetings with Bud Seely, on both occasions Pete did something
Speaker 2: that angered the commissioner and he called him off.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw last night. I'm watching ESPN.
Speaker 1: I think Tim Kirchen is this fabulous season almost the
Speaker 1: baseball and he's been on that so called Veterans Committee before,
Speaker 1: and of course people I just said, somebody stop me
Speaker 1: in the hallway and say when's Pete getting in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And I said, well, I told this
Speaker 1: fine sales executive of ours. We'll see about that. Because
Speaker 1: Kirchin said the following he said, I've been on that
Speaker 1: Veterans Committee and it meets, by the way, sometime in
Speaker 1: the middle of twenty twenty seven to announce the results
Speaker 1: in twenty in December of twenty twenty seven, which is
Speaker 1: what two and a half years away, And he said
Speaker 1: there's sixteen of us, he said, and they're all Hall
Speaker 1: of famers or individuals like me or General Manager Tony
Speaker 1: Perez is on the Veterans Committee. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he still lives. He was, and Tim said, look, I'm
Speaker 1: inclined to vote yes, but I know that the sentiment
Speaker 1: is against Pete and it takes seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: the vote, twelve of sixteen. I'm inclined to vote yes.
Speaker 1: And then he related a conversation he'd briefly had with
Speaker 1: Frank Robinson. Statue ten years here, fabulous Hall of famer
Speaker 1: and Frank Robinson I said to Tim, this is years
Speaker 1: ago before Frank passed away, that you know, Pete Rose
Speaker 1: should never be in the Hall of Fame. And to me,
Speaker 1: I thought, Frank Robinson veda Pinson, Pete Rose, you know,
Speaker 1: right there together because coming up in sixty three, sixty four,
Speaker 1: sixty five. But for those who say, well this means
Speaker 1: Pete's going to be in the Hall of Fame, they
Speaker 1: meet every three years, and what is your sense, I
Speaker 1: guess as a Hall of Fame or you could be
Speaker 1: on the Veterans Committee. At some point they asked eminent
Speaker 1: individuals of the game. I know what your answer would
Speaker 1: be would be yes. But for those who say, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a short step. We will be announced tonight that
Speaker 1: Pete Rose is in the Hall of no Explain the process,
Speaker 1: the difficulties Pete Rose would have in front of that committee.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've felt and Jim knows a whole
Speaker 2: lot more about it than I do, but I felt
Speaker 2: that it is being presented to the Veterans Committee might
Speaker 2: well stand a better ants of him being inducted now
Speaker 2: then it would have been back in the day, because
Speaker 2: of the anger that a lot of the people that
Speaker 2: were influential in Cooper's town expressed over the fact that,
Speaker 2: you know, it took him all that time to admit
Speaker 2: that he bet on baseball. But you know, maybe it's
Speaker 2: not going to be the walk along the Primrose Lane
Speaker 2: that we all thought it was going to be. If
Speaker 2: these people still feel and you know, the guys that
Speaker 2: when I went in in two thousand and it's hard
Speaker 2: to believe it's twenty five years ago, but you know,
Speaker 2: they were all up in arms because they've gotten win
Speaker 2: that I was going to say something about Pete and
Speaker 2: Betch came to me, Johnny came to me, the day
Speaker 2: before the induction ceremony, said they don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 2: I said, okay. He said, Bob Feller and Ralph Kinner
Speaker 2: have both said that if you mentioned Pete, they're going
Speaker 2: to get up the walk off the stage. And I said, Johnny,
Speaker 2: go back and tell them how to give a damn.
Speaker 3: What they did.
Speaker 2: If they wanted to be stripped naked.
Speaker 3: In defiance of what I said, then the hell with them.
Speaker 2: And the next day I made a comment about Pete
Speaker 2: very assertively that he should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and moved on. They were concerned over the fact that
Speaker 2: this the year before, when Mike Schmidt went in in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, that he went on for five minutes
Speaker 2: about how Pete should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and that angered the dickens out of them. And so
Speaker 2: but I did what I was going to do, and
Speaker 2: nobody got up and walked off the stage. But those
Speaker 2: were the two guys that were that carried the torch
Speaker 2: of defiance against Pete ever being in. Feller and Ralph,
Speaker 2: obviously both of them are gone now, and maybe they
Speaker 2: are people like Robbie who was also gone, But maybe
Speaker 2: there are more that we don't know about that. Are
Speaker 2: just as opposed to Pete being in the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame today as they were back then. I don't know.
Speaker 1: About a minute remaining, Marty Brenneman, what is the reason?
Speaker 1: What is the sense? Forty thousand people tonight and they
Speaker 1: could have sold another twenty thousand tickets. Pete Rose is dead.
Speaker 1: We had the ceremony at the Great American Ballpark in
Speaker 1: September October when he died. Well, what is the hold
Speaker 1: that Pete Rose has on Cincinnati?
Speaker 2: Well, I think Bill, and I've said it all the
Speaker 2: years that I've had the privilege of living in this
Speaker 2: town and staying here after countless numbers of opportunities to
Speaker 2: go to other places in Major League Baseball, and ply
Speaker 2: my trade, this is the most provincial city on earth,
Speaker 2: especially if you come from the outside. And if you
Speaker 2: come from the outside like al Michaels did before me
Speaker 2: and like I did, and other people and other walks
Speaker 2: of life, they reserve judgment on you. They don't jump
Speaker 2: on your bandwagon, but they don't get off of it quickly.
Speaker 2: They wait and see how you can induct yourself, and
Speaker 2: once they decide that you are one of them, It's
Speaker 2: like if you and I were brothers, I can call
Speaker 2: you anything. I want to call you the most vile,
Speaker 2: but the guy who's a friend of ours standing there,
Speaker 2: he better not do it. And so this is kind
Speaker 2: of off the beaten path. But you know, Pete was
Speaker 2: born and raised here, and Pete people prided themselves when
Speaker 2: this guy was when he had proven himself to be
Speaker 2: an outstanding, elite Major League Baseball player, and he continued
Speaker 2: to knock the doors down on records and he ultimately
Speaker 2: became the all time hit king. People loved that, and
Speaker 2: people loved the fact that he went to West Hills
Speaker 2: High School and he was born on that side of town,
Speaker 2: and so there was nothing that he could do that
Speaker 2: would diminish their love and affection for him. All through
Speaker 2: the gambling thing and anything else that had come into
Speaker 2: play that was a negative factor in peace life. People
Speaker 2: would accept the fact and acknowledge the fact, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, they would always quick to say, it
Speaker 2: doesn't make any difference. He's one of us, and we
Speaker 2: love Pete Rose, and I think that basically is what
Speaker 2: it's all about here, and they'll continue to love his
Speaker 2: memory as much as they love the person he was
Speaker 2: just a special individual who had a lot of warts,
Speaker 2: but those warts were accepted by anybody who crossed paths
Speaker 2: with him for the most part.
Speaker 1: Oh tonight, Tim, Marty, thank you so much. We've discussed this.
Speaker 1: I've only been on the radio forty three years. You've
Speaker 1: been on a little bit longer than that. And it's
Speaker 1: a constant theme of Pete Rose. It doesn't change. And
Speaker 1: I don't think because of the formatics of getting into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame is going to change for the
Speaker 1: next several years. Maybe three years from now, maybe six,
Speaker 1: maybe nine, maybe twelve, I don't know. But yeah, it's sad,
Speaker 1: and I'm angry at Baseball for what they did to
Speaker 1: Pete as far as not letting them in. It's pathetic,
Speaker 1: it's cruel to do this right after he dies. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't sit well. But Marty, thank you. And I
Speaker 1: fear we're going to do this again at some point.
Speaker 1: It seems like they probably we will. Bill all right, Marty,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Pal, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: So Now let's continue news coming up. And you couldn't
Speaker 1: make it up. Shakespeare could not write the twist and
Speaker 1: turns of the Life and times of Peter Edward Rose,
Speaker 1: the highs of highs and the lowest of low's. And
Speaker 1: now he's dead, and we cannot change what Major League
Speaker 1: Baseball did depete by being so cruel. What's changed the
Speaker 1: last six or seven months. Nothing? But after he's dead,
Speaker 1: they want to kick him one more time. Let's continue
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Speaker 1: continue now. We never stop. We simply continue. As you know.
Speaker 1: And most of my adult life I've felt directly and
Speaker 1: indirectly empathy, anger, sorrow, all the range of emotions about
Speaker 1: Peter Edward Rose. And here we are again, about six
Speaker 1: months after his death. He died in September of last year,
Speaker 1: but really about eight months after his death. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're at a situation now where if Pete
Speaker 1: Rose is back in the news, the national news. It
Speaker 1: was ABCNBCCBS last night, Lester Hold, David muretctera, Pete Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. The answer is Pete Rose. And we got
Speaker 1: forty thousand fans, desperate fans coming to the ballpark tonight
Speaker 1: named after me, of course, the great American, to celebrate
Speaker 1: Pete Rose's accomplishments and contributions, but most importantly, to allow
Speaker 1: his family members. I'm sure Pete Rose Junior will be
Speaker 1: their pet and tie and faun and all the others
Speaker 1: and extended family members and grandkids to understand how great
Speaker 1: a player Pete Rose was and what he meant to
Speaker 1: this town. And in a sense, he's one of the
Speaker 1: few Hall of famers from Cincinnati. Thinking about Barry Larkin,
Speaker 1: who's led an exemporary life. The best Barry Larkin right now,
Speaker 1: I think is sixty years old. Time flies when you
Speaker 1: having fun, And I would point out I discussed with
Speaker 1: my grandchildren Pete Rose, and they say, who is he?
Speaker 1: You know, Pete Rose, the average American was born. The
Speaker 1: average American is thirty one years old. So the average
Speaker 1: American was born in nineteen ninety four, probably had no
Speaker 1: memory of baseball until about twenty years ago. And that's
Speaker 1: the whole history. I speak to el Rod every now
Speaker 1: and now and then Austin and Elmo, and he tells
Speaker 1: me that, you know, he was born well after Pete
Speaker 1: Rose had come out of federal prison. It's like, well
Speaker 1: talking about talking to him about Pete Rose is like
Speaker 1: or Marty talking about Joe Demagio. It's not relevant to
Speaker 1: lives of most, but those of us who knew him,
Speaker 1: those of us who watched him, are just in awe.
Speaker 1: What's happened to this guy. Shakespeare could not have written
Speaker 1: a more unbelievable play than the Life of Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: And I'm offended by the fact that many, including the
Speaker 1: Commissioner's office, I would imagine, would wait until after Pete's
Speaker 1: death to finally make him eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: That was one joy that Pete would have experienced near
Speaker 1: the end of his life. He died at the age
Speaker 1: of eighty three. For God's sakes, he was born four
Speaker 1: fourteen forty one, so you know he's somewhat elderly. Shall
Speaker 1: we say what eighty. He would have just turned eighty
Speaker 1: four years old, and at the end of his life
Speaker 1: he was in bad health, but he had to keep
Speaker 1: signing autographs because that's how he made a living. To
Speaker 1: compare him with Sheilas Joe Jackson is wrong and that
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox in town. Of course, last night they
Speaker 1: beat up on the Reds again five to one. That's embarrassing,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless, but what Pete Rose did is not even
Speaker 1: close to what Shuela Joe Jackson did and the White
Speaker 1: Sox scandal nineteen nineteen not even close. I watched on
Speaker 1: the History Channel this two hour show on the White
Speaker 1: Sox in nineteen nineteen, and betting on baseball at that
Speaker 1: point by owners included was was it given? It happened regularly,
Speaker 1: kind of like today. And I don't blame the broadcaster,
Speaker 1: of course, not that they have a job to do.
Speaker 1: But last night during the game I'm watching and listening
Speaker 1: that the odds of the Reds being shut out increased
Speaker 1: and you can bet during the game on your phone,
Speaker 1: as all of a sudden, betting is the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world, but baseball's embraced at big time. In
Speaker 1: fact that one of these celebrations of Pete Rose's life
Speaker 1: with Bob Castellini and the Grade eight were there. Al
Speaker 1: in rightfield was a sign that said bet bet n MGM.
Speaker 1: The sign is there. So Shula Show Jackson and the
Speaker 1: White Sox took cash in order to affect the outcome
Speaker 1: of the World Series won by the Reds of nineteen nineteen,
Speaker 1: and some have said, well, shueless Joe Jackson did not
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. He did hit like three seventy five,
Speaker 1: hit a great series. But what he did to was
Speaker 1: except five thousand dollars in cash put on his bed
Speaker 1: in the hotel room. He knew about what was going on.
Speaker 1: He accepted five thousand dollars from the gamblers. He played
Speaker 1: a great World Series and the other ones that were
Speaker 1: suspended through some of the games, but not shuliss Joe Jackson.
Speaker 1: Shoeless Joe did not throw any of the games. He
Speaker 1: simply knew what was going on and took five thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: which in nineteen nineteen money today's worth about seventy five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Not to throw the game, but he knew
Speaker 1: about he took the cash, and so when they were indicted,
Speaker 1: the White Sox eight of them were indicted by a
Speaker 1: Cook County grand jury. About a year later, they were
Speaker 1: all found not guilty by a Chicago jury. And so
Speaker 1: what Pete Rose did was bet on baseball. They had
Speaker 1: evidence on as a player, but certainly bet on the
Speaker 1: game as a manager to affect the outcome. But he
Speaker 1: said he never bet on the game on the Reds
Speaker 1: to do anything but win, putting that off to the side.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a situation where you must separate
Speaker 1: what happened outside the lines as opposed to those inside
Speaker 1: the lines. The same thing, in my view, would have
Speaker 1: applied to Barry Bonds, or Mark McGuire or a Rod whatever,
Speaker 1: Roger Clemens. In Pete's case, I had one of our
Speaker 1: great sales execs here come up to me and said,
Speaker 1: he's Pete Rose getting in the Hall of Fame tonight.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, not exactly. No, No, the Commissioner,
Speaker 1: I think, under the aegis of Donald Trump, pressuring Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: he does these kinds of things. And the President announced
Speaker 1: he's going to pardon him on his income tax felony
Speaker 1: convictions at being Peter Rose at some point. But it's
Speaker 1: not happened yet, but it's going to happen soon, I
Speaker 1: would imagine, and he encouraged him to put him in
Speaker 1: eligible for the Hall of Fame. You just heard my
Speaker 1: conversation with Marty Brenahan, Marty Brenneman. The odds him getting
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame now are no greater today
Speaker 1: than they were five or ten years ago. In fact,
Speaker 1: some say they look to be less likely. And it's
Speaker 1: because of this. Every three years, this so called Veterans
Speaker 1: Committee meets the only meet every three years, and there's
Speaker 1: as many as eight persons nominated through a process that
Speaker 1: occurs previous to December of twenty twenty seven. And one
Speaker 1: thing they've done is change some of the picking of
Speaker 1: the individuals who are on that committee. It used to
Speaker 1: be it wasn't a big deal that you'd have some
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame baseball players, maybe some general managers, whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. Tony Perez was on at some point
Speaker 1: and the idea was, okay, review those that have fallen
Speaker 1: through the cracks, like Dave Parker and Dick Allen. You
Speaker 1: might remember in December, about five months ago, our own
Speaker 1: Dave park Parker was selected by the Era Committee, the
Speaker 1: Veterans Committee, to be put on the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: which will happen in July of this year. And so
Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, well that was deserved. I think Dave
Speaker 1: Parker certainly ought to be in the Hall of Fame, etc.
Speaker 1: But now the selection process is a little bit different
Speaker 1: than it was. Let me read you how the Baseball Committee,
Speaker 1: in anticipation of this occurring, has changed. What's going on.
Speaker 1: Three sixteen member ERA committees vote on retired players not
Speaker 1: elected by the Baseball Writers' Association, as well as managers
Speaker 1: on parson executives. The ERA Committee meets every three years
Speaker 1: and it consists that used to consist of Hall of Famers, executives,
Speaker 1: media and historians vote each year in a rotating basis.
Speaker 1: Now that has changed. According to my source at ESPN,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame has announced that the members of
Speaker 1: the so called Historical Overview Committee the Veterans Committee, which
Speaker 1: develops the Era of ballots, will now be approved by
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Board of Directors, and those members
Speaker 1: are appointed by the BBWAA, the Baseball Writers of America.
Speaker 1: This is, as Marty just said, a fore voting signed
Speaker 1: for Pete Rose. So they changed it, and they only
Speaker 1: put so the Baseball writers picked the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: Board of Directors who picked the members of the Old
Speaker 1: Timers Committee, and only eight people every three years make
Speaker 1: the so called ballots. It's called you know, eight make it.
Speaker 1: And then there's voting taking place sometime in December of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. And that means that this pastime there
Speaker 1: were two elected pot Rose Loup Panela missed by one vote.
Speaker 1: You need twelve of the twelve of the sixteen in
Speaker 1: order to get in the Hall of Fame, states on
Speaker 1: the website, called voting shall be based upon the individual's record, ability, integrity, sportsmanship,
Speaker 1: character and contract ABU to the game. So when you
Speaker 1: look at the course ahead for Pete Rose, yes, they
Speaker 1: wait till he's dead to put him eligible to take
Speaker 1: him off the list. I thought a lifetime ban ended
Speaker 1: ended when your life ends. I thought that, No, that
Speaker 1: wasn't the case in baseball. Normally, when you're given a
Speaker 1: life sentence, go to prison, they don't keep your body
Speaker 1: for eight months after you're dead. When you're dead, you're dead.
Speaker 1: You're dead and buried. That's it. But baseball says a
Speaker 1: lifetime ban exceeds until recently passed the end of your life,
Speaker 1: Suli Stoe. Jackson's been dead now for about I don't know,
Speaker 1: seventy seventy four years. He died in nineteen fifty one,
Speaker 1: so it's seventy four years. Sure was so Jackson was
Speaker 1: on the ineligible list during a lifetime ban, and he'd
Speaker 1: been dead for seventy four years. So Pete's been dead
Speaker 1: now about eight months. So the long and the shortest,
Speaker 1: they're making it more difficult for Pete Rose to baseball
Speaker 1: riders to get into the Hall of Fame through the
Speaker 1: old timers can because of those making the selection. And
Speaker 1: I would point out that Tim Kershon of ESPN a
Speaker 1: greatest story into the game. He was on a couple
Speaker 1: of those previous committees, and he said last night on
Speaker 1: ESPN that if it was up to me, I'd go
Speaker 1: in the committee room thinking I would probably do it,
Speaker 1: but I'd want to hear what the other committee members said,
Speaker 1: and I could change my opinion when you have the
Speaker 1: old timers and Tim Kershon saying, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't know about this, And if you don't get six votes,
Speaker 1: six out of the fifteen voting two in a row,
Speaker 1: which is six years in a row, you don't come
Speaker 1: back up for consideration. So to this fine woman who
Speaker 1: works here who said to me, is Pete Rose getting
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame tonight? Well, the odds him
Speaker 1: getting in the Hall of Fame in twenty seven are
Speaker 1: not very good. In fact, they're bad because those making
Speaker 1: the selection have given interviews in the past to say
Speaker 1: he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame, Nor does
Speaker 1: shoeless Joe Jackson belong or the other so called black Sox.
Speaker 1: They don't belong. So in order to get in, you
Speaker 1: need twelve of the sixteen to say yes, he's in,
Speaker 1: and then it's automatic. And I think I heard Marty
Speaker 1: and one of the other close friends of Pete say,
Speaker 1: if that happens, the Rose families should say thanks, but
Speaker 1: no thanks. Pete would be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: but there wouldn't be like a big celebration of Pete's
Speaker 1: life in the July because they're going to make a
Speaker 1: lot of money off of this deal. And this should
Speaker 1: have happened for Pete during the living years instead of
Speaker 1: eight months after he's dead. That's insulting and it's pathetic
Speaker 1: by Major League Baseball. I having said that there's no
Speaker 1: franchise in sports does a better job as celebrating its
Speaker 1: past than the Cincinnati Reads. As Marty said, gates are
Speaker 1: opening up at five point fifteen tonight, five point fifteen
Speaker 1: pm tonight. It's going to be for people there and
Speaker 1: get there early because when the gates open, and they're
Speaker 1: going to be handed a replica of Pete Rose Jersey
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, seventy six. And the program starts at
Speaker 1: six point thirty and we're going to cover it all
Speaker 1: and at seven point fourteen will be the first pitch.
Speaker 1: A little bit late, and the weather's looking okay, not bad,
Speaker 1: but here we go again. I first met Pete Rose
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three when my old coach, Gordon Veterino,
Speaker 1: arranged for him to come speak to a team, and
Speaker 1: after our season had concluded, and I shook his hand,
Speaker 1: there was a picture taking one of those flashbulbs lost
Speaker 1: to history. I'd love to have. But I've been connected
Speaker 1: and admiring Pete Rose for a long long time, and
Speaker 1: for a long long time. He angered me greatly by
Speaker 1: screwing up his life, But who hasn't Who among us
Speaker 1: can cast the first stone?
Speaker 3: Not me, not you?
Speaker 1: Between the white lines, he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: What he did outside is completely a different matter. And
Speaker 1: some will say that he should never get in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because of the felony conviction, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, a pardon is coming from President Trump, or
Speaker 1: because he admitted to having sex with a girl he
Speaker 1: thought was sixteen and she was fifteen at the time
Speaker 1: when he was in his thirties, or betting on the
Speaker 1: game directly or indirectly, one way or another. And at
Speaker 1: some point, may the good live after and the bad
Speaker 1: interred with the bones. And as far as Pete Rose
Speaker 1: is concerned, I don't know what to say other than
Speaker 1: I wish him well. A friend of mine said, at
Speaker 1: one point he said the word Jesus when a friend
Speaker 1: of his had found the faith, and Pete Rose something
Speaker 1: of the affect. Did he find Jesus? And the answer
Speaker 1: was yes. And I have a hope that as he
Speaker 1: flew from Tennessee back to Vegas, that at some point
Speaker 1: something happened to p Rose he acknowledged his Lord and Savior.
Speaker 1: At some point I hope p Rose ask forgiveness for
Speaker 1: the sins and crimes he had committed, and may he
Speaker 1: be with God Almighty. I'll continue with more coming up
Speaker 1: later as a do no harm physician about what's happening
Speaker 1: in medical schools and more Troma the Reds. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham, The Great America,
Speaker 1: and of course we try to understand what's happening in
Speaker 1: our major elite institutions. You would like to think, whether
Speaker 1: it's UCLA or Columbia or Ohio State, for example, that
Speaker 1: the best and the brightest, the best intentions that the
Speaker 1: leaders have thought, so to speak, in America, they churn
Speaker 1: out the leaders in ten twenty thirty years from now.
Speaker 1: I had the honor going to the University of Toledo
Speaker 1: Law School, got a great education there. I could not
Speaker 1: be admitted to UCLA or iver to yell if I
Speaker 1: tried to. I didn't even try because I wasn't elite
Speaker 1: in the minds of some. And so we look forward
Speaker 1: to the big schools to churn out the best doctors,
Speaker 1: the best architects, the best lawyers, the best business leaders.
Speaker 1: And hopefully they don't practice race discrimination as the Democrats
Speaker 1: did for most of their history. They have in the South,
Speaker 1: especially between about sixteen nineteen and eighteen sixty five did
Speaker 1: everything in their power to practice racial discrimination against black folks,
Speaker 1: and that was the Democratic Party. The ku Klux Klan
Speaker 1: was the Democratic Party hanging black men with Democratic Party
Speaker 1: and destruction of many of our urban schools today or
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party doing that. But I note with interest
Speaker 1: a column by doctor Stanley Goldfarb, who's the medical watchdog
Speaker 1: of Donoharm dot org has filed a class action lawsuit
Speaker 1: against the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA for
Speaker 1: discriminating based upon race, and doctor Goldfarb, but welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I know
Speaker 1: the name. Tell the American people who is David Geffen.
Speaker 1: I guess gave a lot of money to have the
Speaker 1: school named after him, a school of medicine producing doctors.
Speaker 1: But who is David Geffen?
Speaker 4: Well, it's good to be with you, Bill. He's a
Speaker 4: major Hollywood mogul producer. I don't know all of his
Speaker 4: ins and outs of all that he owns, but he's
Speaker 4: been a major figure in the American movie making industry
Speaker 4: for many years now.
Speaker 1: Lots of money, And give me the essence of your
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the David Geffen School of medicine at UCLA.
Speaker 1: What is the essence of it?
Speaker 4: Well, like a lot of the elite institutions that you mentioned,
Speaker 4: there's a rottenness at their core, and in this case
Speaker 4: of UCLA Medical School, what's really rotten has been their
Speaker 4: admission policies for medical students for the last several years.
Speaker 4: And this is probably going on in many medical schools
Speaker 4: around the country. In matter of fact, we have some
Speaker 4: evidence that it is, but this has been a particularly
Speaker 4: egregious place because they're director of admissions at Doctor Lucerno,
Speaker 4: who's a physician and an associate dean for admissions, has
Speaker 4: been very outspoken in her desire to have a racially
Speaker 4: based admissions process. And our lawsuit involves students who were
Speaker 4: denied admission to UCLA who had excellent, in fact superb
Speaker 4: academic credentials, much better than minority students that were accepted,
Speaker 4: and yet they were rejected over and over again from
Speaker 4: the school. And again, Doctor Rosano has been very public
Speaker 4: in her statements, and we have whistleblowers from the UCLA
Speaker 4: Medical School who are willing to testify about things she
Speaker 4: has said and things she has done and policies that
Speaker 4: the school has adopted. That favors individuals based on their
Speaker 4: skin color rather than their academic and performance.
Speaker 1: You know, doctor go Goldfarb. That's been declared illegal for
Speaker 1: a very long time, including Title the Civil Rights Act
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty four, the Civil Rights Act of eighteen
Speaker 1: sixty six, which was codified largely in the fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 1: and the California Civil Rights It is well known you
Speaker 1: can't pick someone or give somebody favor based upon skin color.
Speaker 1: That is racial discrimination. And I would think if you
Speaker 1: put this dean in a deposition, which you're likely to
Speaker 1: do soon, she's going to say, yes, we did it,
Speaker 1: but we have good intentions. In other words, we want
Speaker 1: to have diversity. Diversity is our strength. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: unity is our strength. So what are the difficulties when
Speaker 1: you pick individuals for medical school based upon skin color
Speaker 1: and not merit. How does that manifest itself to patience?
Speaker 4: Well, ultimately, it really means that you have less qualified
Speaker 4: individuals delivering healthcare. And we have lots of evidence now
Speaker 4: from the performance of minority students in school and in
Speaker 4: their training programs that show that they're performing much less well.
Speaker 4: And it's pretty obvious that if you perform less well,
Speaker 4: as a student and less well as an intern and
Speaker 4: resident where you're actually performing all the functions of a physician,
Speaker 4: that you're going to perform less well for the rest
Speaker 4: of your career. And in fact, we have evidence for
Speaker 4: that from some of the exam performance that has been
Speaker 4: noted on when people take their board certification exams, so
Speaker 4: we have evidence that the performance is less good. And
Speaker 4: the other great problem here is a problem where the
Speaker 4: medical the minority medical students who are capable and are
Speaker 4: qualified are tarred by this terrible racialism because it seemed
Speaker 4: that they were given this opportunity not because of their capabilities,
Speaker 4: but because of their skin color. So it works, It
Speaker 4: works harm for lots of people at harms patients potentially,
Speaker 4: and it harms those black students who deserve to be
Speaker 4: physicians and who deserve to have the honor that they've
Speaker 4: achieved when they've been successful in their careers, and yet
Speaker 4: they're diminished by this kind of program.
Speaker 1: And doctor I hear the argument, well, you need doctors
Speaker 1: or lawyers, or politicians or teachers that look like their
Speaker 1: patients or their students or their clients. That the greater
Speaker 1: good is to choose based upon race, so that if
Speaker 1: you walk into a doctor's office and there's a black
Speaker 1: female face, or you walk into a lawyer's office and
Speaker 1: there is a gay rights lawyer, you walk into your
Speaker 1: classroom and you have a teacher that looks like you,
Speaker 1: there are positive societal events for that that needs to
Speaker 1: be imposed. How would you react to that argument from
Speaker 1: the radical left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is the typical argument that's used to
Speaker 4: justify this kind of behavior that in an argument for reparations.
Speaker 4: The truth is that there is a great deal of
Speaker 4: evidence that that's simply not the case.
Speaker 3: There are over.
Speaker 4: Sixty medical studies and they've been evaluated through systematic reviews,
Speaker 4: which is a very rigorous process published in peer review
Speaker 4: medical journals. Five systematic reviews have been published in peer
Speaker 4: review medical journals to show that when you look at
Speaker 4: questions of how well do doctors communicate with their patients,
Speaker 4: how satisfied are the patients with the care they're getting,
Speaker 4: one of the medical outcomes of these kinds of fear.
Speaker 4: There's no evidence that having the doctor that books like
Speaker 4: you is going to provide better care than the best.
Speaker 4: And despite this, studies are cherry picked. You know, an
Speaker 4: occasional study will show will claim that there's a benefit,
Speaker 4: but then there are five other studies, for example, that
Speaker 4: will show that there's no such benefit. So when you
Speaker 4: look at the totality of the literature, there's just no
Speaker 4: evidence that that's true. And you know it's not true.
Speaker 4: These are the teachers. It's not true in any sphere
Speaker 4: where it's been proposed. It's just a myth that's out there,
Speaker 4: and it's used to justify this kind of racialism that's
Speaker 4: gone on in medical school admissions.
Speaker 1: And you know it's true across the board, right, and
Speaker 1: it's true for lawyers, doctors, architects. Is completely true. It's
Speaker 1: inculcated in the groundwater. Yeah, absolutely true.
Speaker 4: And you know the point you made about we've had
Speaker 4: laws that have prevented this kind of racialization of medical
Speaker 4: school admissions. You know, the Supreme Court case the Students
Speaker 4: for Fair Admissions, by the way, are co blinktives in
Speaker 4: our case with us with our members show you that
Speaker 4: there cannot be any such destination in our education at all.
Speaker 4: This was one sort of exception that was out there
Speaker 4: for several years, but that's been completely eliminated now.
Speaker 3: So what is illegal.
Speaker 4: It defies the Supreme Court rulings, and the time has
Speaker 4: come for it to stop. Time has come for us
Speaker 4: to have the colored blind Society that was envisioned by
Speaker 4: Martin Luther King Junior, and that represents the American ideal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I get on a Delta, if I get
Speaker 1: on a Delta airplane, I don't care if the crew
Speaker 1: is black, white, Asian, I don't care if they're straight
Speaker 1: or gay. Just get me to where I'm going on time.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a situation where I have a
Speaker 1: sense because of this US Supreme Court, because hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: follow the law. I can recall the comments of a
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice about thirty thirty five years ago, Santre
Speaker 1: Day O'Connor, who kind of winked, nod, nod, and said, look,
Speaker 1: we're going to have to have some okay, benign racial
Speaker 1: discrimination for the next twenty years. In order to spend
Speaker 1: more money on the public schools, more Mamby, more money
Speaker 1: on public education, we've got to spend more money on
Speaker 1: Section eight. We've got to spend a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And we've spent literally trillions of dollars the last twenty
Speaker 1: to thirty years in order to make sure that a
Speaker 1: kid you're in Los Angeles, ice, but La County school
Speaker 1: about the sand amount of money is spent there is
Speaker 1: in a private school. I live in Cincinnati, and in fact,
Speaker 1: the public schools spend more per student than the so
Speaker 1: called Catholic private schools with less results. And so the
Speaker 1: argument was, we have to violate the law for about
Speaker 1: twenty years, and after that, which would be like the
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties or two thousand, which is a quarter of
Speaker 1: a century ago, were that okay, okay, everyone's up. We're
Speaker 1: going to treat people not based upon the color of
Speaker 1: their skin, but rather that their merit to get in.
Speaker 1: And this has not stopped, especially especially in urban areas.
Speaker 1: It's not stopped, and so hopefully it'll stop this time.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, and the thing about medical school admissions
Speaker 4: is that any qualified black student has been preferentially admitted
Speaker 4: for many, many years, which, okay, if they're qualified, they're qualified,
Speaker 4: and that's fine. If they're qualified as much as an
Speaker 4: Asian student that's being denied admission. But the problem with
Speaker 4: medical schools is, unlike undergraduate schools, where you could always
Speaker 4: go to another school if you don't get excepted by one,
Speaker 4: there's always another one. That's not true. In medical schools,
Speaker 4: there are fifty five thousand applicants for twenty two thousand spaces,
Speaker 4: and if a student is denied admissions, then some other student,
Speaker 4: who in this case is better qualified, is denied that admission.
Speaker 4: And that's really a major problem. You cannot have fairness
Speaker 4: in this kind of system. And again that's very Unamerican
Speaker 4: to have such an unshared situation going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know those numbers. I know in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio we have seven or eight law schools,
Speaker 1: and of course, if you're bright and intelligent, whatever, you
Speaker 1: might go to Case Western, you might go to Ohio State.
Speaker 1: But there's always Ohio Northern, there's always University of Toledo.
Speaker 1: And in California, though, I would assume there's a few
Speaker 1: medical schools, and you want the best in the brightest,
Speaker 1: because we're not dealing with not to writing a complaint
Speaker 1: or a lawsuit, or maybe not writing a will properly.
Speaker 1: We're talking about someone's life, that is. And if you
Speaker 1: would ask African Americans, do you want the best doctor
Speaker 1: to treat you for your cancer? I don't think the
Speaker 1: typical African American patient would say, you know what, I
Speaker 1: wanted an affirmative action doctor. The patients themselves don't say that.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: In fact, we've asked that question, and you're exactly right.
Speaker 4: Black patients want the best doctor. That's what they want,
Speaker 4: and it demeans them to suggest that they are so
Speaker 4: racially biased that they can only deal with.
Speaker 1: A black doctor. It's just not true.
Speaker 4: It doesn't reflect the Black community, and it certainly doesn't
Speaker 4: reflect what's best for the House of the American people.
Speaker 1: Lastly, you have in your lawsuit April twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: a whistleblower said that you see LA circulated a memo
Speaker 1: requiring admissions committee members to consider race when picking students
Speaker 1: to serve as admissions officers, and then to go through
Speaker 1: the medical school process. I think it takes three, four,
Speaker 1: five six years. Are the principles of racism and shall
Speaker 1: we say diversity taught throughout the class work doesn't end
Speaker 1: at the admission and the next four years in medical
Speaker 1: school that race never comes up, that you have no
Speaker 1: benefit or costs for someone being black. Is this diversity
Speaker 1: DEI taught throughout medical school?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and it's integrated into all courses, even when students
Speaker 4: go on a surgical rotation. They'll have a lecture about
Speaker 4: diversity and about racism and surgery, and it's all nonsense.
Speaker 4: And the reality is there are important health disparities that
Speaker 4: the black population suffers, but the idea that it's because
Speaker 4: their patients are being treated in a bias fashion by
Speaker 4: physicians is just simply wrong. There are other genetic, behavioral,
Speaker 4: all sorts of reasons that have to do with why
Speaker 4: there's discrepancies in health outcomes by the real problem, and
Speaker 4: not to create this myth that the problem is biased
Speaker 4: on the part of physicians and that patients need.
Speaker 3: Doctors that look like them in order to get rid
Speaker 3: of this bias.
Speaker 4: That's this lie that's been perpetuated for several years now,
Speaker 4: and it's just wrong and it's just counterproductive, totally counterproductive
Speaker 4: because it doesn't get at the root of the issue.
Speaker 4: The root of the issue is that black patients need
Speaker 4: to have better trust in the healthcare system and need
Speaker 4: to identify their symptoms earlier and need to get health
Speaker 4: access earlier. We know, for example, that the high maternal
Speaker 4: mortality that black women suffer in large part is due
Speaker 4: because there's a tremendous gap between they're getting first trimester
Speaker 4: prenatal care in order to identify high pertension and other
Speaker 4: problems that can be controlled early on in pregnancy and
Speaker 4: prevent problems later on. And these opportunities are available, there
Speaker 4: are laws that provide the funding for black women. If
Speaker 4: they're poor to be able to get this care, they
Speaker 4: need to get the care. Then it needs to be
Speaker 4: an educational process that goes on in the black community
Speaker 4: that would help mitigate this problem. It's not due to
Speaker 4: the fact that obstetrics and gynecology doctors are biased against
Speaker 4: black women.
Speaker 1: Well, I would think DEI principles apply, as you say,
Speaker 1: throughout medical school and if, as some conservative a student
Speaker 1: doesn't buy into the idea, I'm not going to acknowledge DEI.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to acknowledge racism. That student would have
Speaker 1: difficulties getting residency, getting grades, things to that character. And well,
Speaker 1: hopefully is that the case doctor, Well, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting that the agency that credit that
Speaker 4: credits residency programs now just yesterday announced that they were
Speaker 4: going to eliminate their diversity requirements for residency programs. And
Speaker 4: in the past what you said is absolutely the case
Speaker 4: that there are students that were denied opportunities and specialties
Speaker 4: like neurosurgery or radiology because of their skin color. And
Speaker 4: this has been going on throughout the medical establishment, and
Speaker 4: that time has come when it must stop.
Speaker 1: Doctor Stanley Goldfarbe, go online, Do No Harm dot org,
Speaker 1: Medical director. Let's begin and let's go back to the
Speaker 1: ideas that race should not play a factor in these admissions.
Speaker 1: Rather it should be merit and everyone should agree with that,
Speaker 1: Doctor Stanley gold Goldfarb from UCLA, thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And doctor you're a great American.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thanks so much, God bless you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more and there it is. Race should
Speaker 1: play no part. Merit should trump race whenever it's available.
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the law. How about enforcing the law.
Speaker 1: What a novel concept. No one is above the law.
Speaker 1: I thought, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred that you.
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Speaker 1: Segment nineteen seventy Ray Fosse and segment where are you now?
Speaker 3: If anywhere were sitting in a radio birthway Ballady, you
Speaker 3: meet out with floater Speedway and I'm watching the cars
Speaker 3: going around that god getting it's two hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: four miles an hour. They had about a three hour
Speaker 3: rain delay this morning, so they just got the track
Speaker 3: dright out. They've been out there for about five or
Speaker 3: ten minutes. But thinks they're rocking and rolling here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: So so in Cincinnati. Now, tell me a memory you
Speaker 1: have of Pete Rose, Maybe the ball he gave you
Speaker 1: and I Joe Demagio, maybe some other event. Give me
Speaker 1: a memory of Pete Rose.
Speaker 3: Well that was that's you know what Willie? You brought
Speaker 3: that I forgot, totally forgot about that. You and I
Speaker 3: were down there one night talking to him and stuff
Speaker 3: in his office, and he said, hold on a minute,
Speaker 3: reached up at his locker and got these two baseballs out,
Speaker 3: cast them to us, and at once one it said
Speaker 3: Pete Rose. And I split the ball around and stopped,
Speaker 3: and you pumped into me. He said, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: I said, look at turn the ball around, and it said,
Speaker 3: Joe Demagule, where is your Joe Demagio Pete Rose ball?
Speaker 1: As I speak, where is where's your ball?
Speaker 3: Uh? Mine's at home?
Speaker 1: And it came mine's in the woods behind Camargo Woods
Speaker 1: and Madeira, my son took it out and played catch
Speaker 1: with it in the on the pavement of Camargo Woods Court.
Speaker 3: Oh well that's you know what that that reminds me
Speaker 3: of the baseball. Remember the baseball that was the last
Speaker 3: out of Tom Brownie's perfect.
Speaker 1: Game September sixteenth, nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ended it up on the mantle, and I
Speaker 3: guess after a couple of weeks or something, he looked
Speaker 3: on the mantle, the ball wasn't there, and he has
Speaker 3: his kids and where's the baseball? And where's that ball?
Speaker 3: At the said, well, we needed we didn't have a
Speaker 3: baseball until we just got that one. It's in the
Speaker 3: wood some plate in Erlanger or something wherever he lived.
Speaker 3: And I thought, what, No, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they ever found it or what. But that's
Speaker 3: that's a that's a that's a known fact.
Speaker 1: In segment, I hate to bring this up, but the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers best record in all of basketball thrown out
Speaker 1: by the Pacers. Where you are four to one in
Speaker 1: the series, lost, and nobody's happy now in Cleveland, which
Speaker 1: might be a good thing.
Speaker 3: Well, that's true, Willie. The Browns, the Browns are going
Speaker 3: to be bad. The Cavaliers were like, you know, lights
Speaker 3: out in the season. And people here in Indianapolis are
Speaker 3: going crazy because how about this on Sunday of the
Speaker 3: the Indianapolis five hundred. Also in Indianapolis that night will
Speaker 3: be Game three of the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about excitement? The people are, you know,
Speaker 3: they're excited about the five hundred. But people in Indianapolis
Speaker 3: are going crazy because the Papers are playing so well
Speaker 3: and they may end up winning the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, Nicks, I would think are
Speaker 1: favor now to beat the Celtics with Jason Tatum done.
Speaker 1: So if it's the exactly, if it's the Pacers in
Speaker 1: the finals, and you know, I would assume if they
Speaker 1: can beat the Knicks, then they play I guess Oklahoma City,
Speaker 1: and that'd be a crisis in the NBA. They don't
Speaker 1: want Indianapolis playing Oklahoma City. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I came end of that. Will He the student to
Speaker 3: poor here it is brocking you by your local tame
Speaker 3: star eating er, conditting dealers, teme star quality. You canteal
Speaker 3: excuse me, Willie Red's update, Reds got knocked off. Hopefully tonight, Willie,
Speaker 3: thank you, Rocky, Hopefully to night, Wille It'll be a
Speaker 3: rose Knight, will be a victory in front of a
Speaker 3: sellout crowd because we're going to honor the Hit King
Speaker 3: in his great career thing. So uh. And the coverage
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Speaker 1: Yes, what about Trey Hendrickson is a Christian who says
Speaker 1: he's not going to honor his contract. Can you comment
Speaker 1: on the fact that Trey Hendrickson number ninety one signed
Speaker 1: the deal deal and did not honor the contract. Now
Speaker 1: he says going to sit out.
Speaker 3: Your comments on that, well, he's well, if he sits out,
Speaker 3: he's going to be fined. And this is gotten. It
Speaker 3: looked like a progress is going to be made about
Speaker 3: a week or so ago, and now it's turned ugly
Speaker 3: because like I said, he uh, you know, Bengals up.
Speaker 3: They brought you by good spirits and party town. Trey
Speaker 3: Hendrickson years today showed up in street closed at the
Speaker 3: Bengals voluntary workout on the sideline, not a uniform, but
Speaker 3: it's a poke with the media. And one day after
Speaker 3: apparently the contract, cops were cut with him. So it's
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's that's maybe they.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, but.
Speaker 3: I really The Bengals twenty twenty five schedule is going
Speaker 3: to come out along with the rest of the National
Speaker 3: Football lead Amy dorn Window presented by Bill and Adam Webber.
Speaker 3: NFL schedule release party is live tonight that Smoked Justice
Speaker 3: and Covington starting at sixth on the FPM fifty. There
Speaker 3: is a report I saw this morning the Bengals will
Speaker 3: open Bengals Sunday Night football at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Is that possible?
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: That's one thing. That's one thing. They said they'll be
Speaker 3: on the road at Buffalo MLS soccer tonight after Cincinnati
Speaker 3: on the road at Toronto FC, acting at seven on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports thirteen to sixty. Uh like I said. Indianapolis
Speaker 3: five hundred practice had a belong range of late this
Speaker 3: morning and they are back on it today. Scott Dixon
Speaker 3: the tour at twenty four miles an hour. College basketball
Speaker 3: will eive the Skyline Jelly Cropstown Shootout. Give me the date,
Speaker 3: Friday night, December the fifth at the Sintop Center. Oh,
Speaker 3: I can't remember that game being on a Friday night. No,
Speaker 3: they got the first.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Xavier as a team yet. Does you
Speaker 1: see have a team?
Speaker 3: I think you see has a well. I think both
Speaker 3: of them are close to having a team, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. I I have you given any more nil
Speaker 3: money to your beloved Musketeers.
Speaker 1: I gave the same amount you gave the North North
Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky same amount of money. Okay, whatever you give
Speaker 1: the NKAU, I'll give the xavior. Is that fair?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Now another thing, I'm glad you brought this up. Trey
Speaker 1: Hendrickson as a grown man, I think he's thirty thirty
Speaker 1: one years old, he signs a contract to pay him
Speaker 1: like fifteen or sixteen million dollars for the season twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. It's in black ink. It's on the paper
Speaker 1: I signed, he says, verbally orally, somebody in management told me, well,
Speaker 1: if you have a good year, we'll revisit the contract.
Speaker 1: What good is a verbal utterance over a written contract?
Speaker 1: Can you tell me that.
Speaker 3: A lot? Well, I mean, you know, if he got
Speaker 3: it in you know, he got it in writing, that
Speaker 3: they were going to have, you know, some kind of no,
Speaker 3: you know, we're going to rework the deal in writing.
Speaker 3: Then think he's okay. But now it's like now, like, well,
Speaker 3: if somebody tells you something and if you go away
Speaker 3: a bit, they just told me that a week ago,
Speaker 3: or what are.
Speaker 1: You talking about?
Speaker 3: So I don't know, it's gotten it's gotten ugly. It's
Speaker 3: gotten ugly because you know, he has let people know
Speaker 3: that Dak Taylor has texted him for, you know, to
Speaker 3: say that if he's not at the mandatory workout in
Speaker 3: the next month, who's gonna get fined.
Speaker 1: That's what the contracts, right, right.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, if if I if I
Speaker 3: was being paid fifteen point eight million dollars to play football,
Speaker 3: I got my helmet on twenty four to seven and
Speaker 3: I'm and I'm sleeping in my uniform. But I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, the guy, you know, I mean, the guy
Speaker 3: is obviously worth more than that, but I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's like you've got to work, you got to get
Speaker 3: a deal. Deal. Maybe the guy's a.
Speaker 1: Recovery, he's got a deal.
Speaker 3: I know, he's got a deal, got a deal. But
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know he's I said this
Speaker 3: before that he was going to be the odd man
Speaker 3: out with the Gabbard days and p Higgins deal. He
Speaker 3: was he was going to be probably the odd man
Speaker 3: out of this whole thing. Maybe maybe they'll maybe they'll
Speaker 3: all of a sudden come to you know, maybe in
Speaker 3: the in the hour in the twelve hour of the
Speaker 3: before they go to camp or before the mandatory camp happens,
Speaker 3: they'll work, they'll be working a deal. Who knows right now,
Speaker 3: I apparently they're not talking at all. And uh, you know,
Speaker 3: with him going public yesterday totally boldly.
Speaker 1: Well, Mike Brown done back down a lot. Is that
Speaker 1: fair to say?
Speaker 3: Uh? That is correct, sir.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to go somewhere else
Speaker 1: to make about sixteen million bucks. And I'm stuck up
Speaker 1: on this idea. He says he's a Christian. He says
Speaker 1: I signed a contract. He says, I agreed to play
Speaker 1: here twenty twenty five. And now he's saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I want I want more money. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to honor the contract.
Speaker 3: Right he wants some more green sale of the Salvation.
Speaker 3: And they're saying, wait a minute, hold it. You know
Speaker 3: you got a deal. And then but I mean he
Speaker 3: had he had a fabulous year reader in sack in
Speaker 3: the in the National Football League and everything else, and
Speaker 3: then he's the leader of that defense. But you know,
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know, Willie. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 3: way beyond obviously my pay grade. That's up around you.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say this, when you sign a deal
Speaker 1: you'll honor the deal. And if you call upon the
Speaker 1: Almighty to bless your life, and the Almighty is blessing
Speaker 1: your life, and you sign a deal, sin, I'm playing
Speaker 1: football for you for sixteen million dollars in the year
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'm turning thirty one years old in December. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to be nice about it and extend
Speaker 1: my contract, so be it. But I'm gonna play. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna honor my word. How about that idea Britton.
Speaker 3: I would say that's a that was that would be
Speaker 3: fairly successful.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I don't know what to tell you, but
Speaker 1: God bless him. I don't know he raised money for
Speaker 1: Deer Park High School. I have great fight, some positivity
Speaker 1: for Trey Henderson. But if you sign a deal, a
Speaker 1: deal deal, A deal is a deal. And now if
Speaker 1: you want to extend it, I'm gonna play much better
Speaker 1: this year than I played last year, and then I'll
Speaker 1: be more valuable to you or someone else. But they
Speaker 1: don't want to pay I know, thirty million dollars for
Speaker 1: a thirty three year old pass rusher. And Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: You know you criticize Mike Brown a lot, but this
Speaker 1: time Mike Brown is right, he signed a deal.
Speaker 3: Well I agree with I agree with you, and I
Speaker 3: agree with mister Brown.
Speaker 1: Well you don't agree with Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3: Then well then, I mean, you know you said it.
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's got a contract already for fifteen
Speaker 3: million bucks and it's the final year, and that they
Speaker 3: gave him permission to seek a trade. And nothing happened.
Speaker 9: Nothing.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, did we hear about anything about a
Speaker 3: trade or a deal deal with him?
Speaker 1: According according to the scribes, the Bengals wanted a first
Speaker 1: in the second draft choice, which no team's going to
Speaker 1: pay that good gear.
Speaker 3: So right, nobody, nobody, nobody in the in the in
Speaker 3: the NFL is going to do that. You know, if
Speaker 3: he was like if he was like a few years younger,
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, not not now, I mean, you know, with
Speaker 3: with his age and all that stuff. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, they dissed out the dough for the dough,
Speaker 3: the ray and the me for mister Hitler for uh
Speaker 3: te jamarg p Higgins.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: So but I you know, with this, but I don't
Speaker 3: know it.
Speaker 1: Just I know, your contract unless.
Speaker 3: You I mean, that's like you want more money and saying, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm making eight million dollars already a year from for
Speaker 3: the radio. I want him.
Speaker 1: Well, well, what happens if the shoes on the other foot?
Speaker 1: Well what if the shoes on the foot and the
Speaker 1: Bengals go and they signed up for fifteen million bucks
Speaker 1: this year? And the Bengals say, you know, Trey, you
Speaker 1: had a bad year. In fact, you only had three
Speaker 1: sacks this year. We want to change the contract. We
Speaker 1: want to pay you less money. Would Trey Henderson say, okay,
Speaker 1: you can pay me less money. He would say, no,
Speaker 1: we got a contract. We got a contract. Get me
Speaker 1: out of the stort, you know.
Speaker 3: And then the thing, ever, there's two with the Jamar Stewart.
Speaker 3: I mean they haven't signed him yet. I mean, and
Speaker 3: he had he had. I think I could play college
Speaker 3: football and get three and a half or four sacks
Speaker 3: a year and four years. I mean, come on, I
Speaker 3: think I could. My my fat rear end could do
Speaker 3: that in the college football, couldn't you? Well?
Speaker 1: I got a report here segment that the Bengals will
Speaker 1: open September the seventeen. I'm sorry, Bengals open September seventh
Speaker 1: in Cleveland at a one o'clock game. That's an unconfirmed
Speaker 1: report from an insider. Bengals Browns Sunday, one pm, September seventh.
Speaker 1: Your reaction to that, that's an inside source I have
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, So.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be the season opener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Cleveland, in Cleveland one o'clock, I might.
Speaker 3: As well get the Battle of Ohio ready to go?
Speaker 1: Segment, Get me out there, wonder.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna wonder who's going to quarterback?
Speaker 1: Then Shedur Sanders, I guess, give me out of the
Speaker 1: stooge reord, give me out. Please, get me out of
Speaker 1: steuge report.
Speaker 3: Willie and a stay here at the Thrice data at
Speaker 3: the i MS. We leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 3: of the stoo report.
Speaker 1: Did you bet on baseball? Yes?
Speaker 8: I did? And uh that was my mistake not coming
Speaker 8: clean a lot earlier.
Speaker 1: Two words were never spoken. Segment. Thank you very much. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's continue with more news coming up and so much
Speaker 1: more at your home of the Reds and Pete Rose
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred wl WI Billy counting into Great America.
Speaker 1: Today is the night waited for for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose is l now for the Hall of fame,
Speaker 1: see what happens down the road and the first pitch
Speaker 1: to night. It's about seven fourteen, but there's about forty thousand,
Speaker 1: thirty thousand desperate Reds fans wanting to come to the
Speaker 1: ballpark to honor Pete Rose. It's raining right now, but
Speaker 1: guess what, it looks much better in the next couple hours.
Speaker 1: And Karen Forgus is the executive vice president of Your
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Resident And Karen Forgus, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And Karen, for those desperate Reds fans that
Speaker 1: are in their cars coming in getting ready kind of layout,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen tonight, starting maybe about five o'clock,
Speaker 1: and how things work out. The weather, by the way,
Speaker 1: is breaking. It's going to be good.
Speaker 4: Rain.
Speaker 9: It's actually brightened up about ten shades. Since you had
Speaker 9: me on hold listening to the best bumper music in radio,
Speaker 9: I might mention, yeah, So okay, here's what's going on.
Speaker 9: We have sold almost forty four thousand tickets to this
Speaker 9: thing because it's about Pete, and Pete was about the fans.
Speaker 9: This was something back in the fall when he passed,
Speaker 9: his family said the number one thing we want is
Speaker 9: to do something where we can make sure that the
Speaker 9: fans know my dad played for them. So that's really
Speaker 9: what this whole game is about. We just did the
Speaker 9: dedication over a bold faced park where they named the
Speaker 9: ball field where Pete grew up in his name, and
Speaker 9: it was packed, you know, and that was rain. So anyway,
Speaker 9: there's just a lot of amazing things going on for
Speaker 9: the ballpark tonight. So if you are a season ticket holder,
Speaker 9: our gates are going to open at five fourteen for
Speaker 9: those folks. Everybody else they open at five forty four.
Speaker 9: Everybody's getting the Pete Rose jersey. We decided to do
Speaker 9: the road uniform he wore during the Big Red Machine
Speaker 9: World Series victories in seventy five in Boston, seventy six
Speaker 9: New York. We did that because he always said he
Speaker 9: loved having Cincinnati across his chest. Everybody's going to get
Speaker 9: one of those, So get here when the door's opened,
Speaker 9: but you don't need to. Everybody's going to get when
Speaker 9: no one needs to panic. But we do want you
Speaker 9: in your seats no or no, you know, later than
Speaker 9: six thirty because that's when we're going to kind of
Speaker 9: start the pre game. We're going to honor Pete throughout
Speaker 9: the game, every inning break, we'll be doing things around
Speaker 9: Pete's career. But the real crown jewel, you'll get to
Speaker 9: hear from the family. You're going to get to hear
Speaker 9: from his teammates, people he coached. That's all happening starting
Speaker 9: at six thirty on field with Marty Brennman as the EMC.
Speaker 1: You know Karen Fogus the Reds, and I said this
Speaker 1: on the air. No organization does special events like the
Speaker 1: Reds and it's amazing. And when Pete spoke about these
Speaker 1: events happening after his death, he said, the main reason
Speaker 1: I like him to happen is not for me. I'll
Speaker 1: be dead. Hopefully i'll know what's going on, but i'll
Speaker 1: be dead. But I want it for my family. And
Speaker 1: he said my family is an extended family that he
Speaker 1: wants to come there and let them revel in the
Speaker 1: glory of their father, their grandfather, their friend, their uncle.
Speaker 1: So five fourteen pm this afternoon, if you're a season
Speaker 1: ticket holder, five forty four. If you're not a season
Speaker 1: ticket holder, but you got to, I'd encourage people to
Speaker 1: line up early because you got forty thousand people coming.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you do you do? And the first pitch is
Speaker 9: not until seven fourteen, which is nice, and that gives
Speaker 9: us plenty of time for all the other stuff. And
Speaker 9: our fans have done this before when we've done Hall
Speaker 9: of Fame inductions, they know to get there early to
Speaker 9: see the pregame program. And in this case, we've got
Speaker 9: an amazing kind of question and answer. We're going to
Speaker 9: have Foster and Griffy Senior his teammates. We're gonna have
Speaker 9: Eric Davis who he coached. We're gonna have Lark and
Speaker 9: who he coached. We're going to have then Marty asking
Speaker 9: them questions about Pete. And then we're going to obviously
Speaker 9: hear from the family, which will be great. Then really cool,
Speaker 9: right before the anthem, which is going to be sung
Speaker 9: by fourteen members of West Highs Choir where Pete wearers
Speaker 9: went to school, we're going to do a fourteen second
Speaker 9: kind of moment of remembrance, but we're going to do
Speaker 9: a countdown counting up, so right before the anthem, get
Speaker 9: everybody's attention, which is going to be really cool. We're
Speaker 9: going to do that. Then his kids, there's grandkids. Actually
Speaker 9: that's what the four siblings said. We want all the
Speaker 9: grandkids to do the first pitch, do the game ball delivery,
Speaker 9: be captain of the game, which I think is going
Speaker 9: to be really, really great. And then we will call
Speaker 9: everybody to attention in the ballpark during the game where
Speaker 9: we're going to ask everybody here to put their jersey on.
Speaker 9: And that is going to look amazing. Can you imagine.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's going to be unbelievable. So it's very celebratory.
Speaker 9: We've got to your point. We've got red carpet we
Speaker 9: laid around his statue all the way to the main gates.
Speaker 9: We've got flowers all around his statue that are celebratory.
Speaker 9: We've got his name Pete, and big letters and lights
Speaker 9: outside the gates so people can get a picture. We've
Speaker 9: got number fourteen on the inside. And there's just going
Speaker 9: to be stuffed throughout the whole ballpark about Pete. Every
Speaker 9: inning break about Pete. It's going to be great. Even
Speaker 9: our players are going to wear a fourteen T shirt
Speaker 9: for batting practice today. That was rich Stoe. He's like, hey,
Speaker 9: let's get this done. I want to honor Pete with
Speaker 9: his So that's all going on today. It's just really
Speaker 9: about all that is good and right, and with the
Speaker 9: news coming out yesterday, that just makes it so much nicer.
Speaker 9: You know, we don't have to deal with that question.
Speaker 9: You know, what should happen now we know we know
Speaker 9: he's going to get the consideration he deserves for Cooperstown.
Speaker 9: And what a thrilling kind of last era to have
Speaker 9: before we open these gates tonight. It's just awesome.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: A couple hours ago I had on the Marty Brannaman
Speaker 1: to talk about this, and I've read everything, and I
Speaker 1: can read the last day or two and this is
Speaker 1: my personal view. It was a pathetic that Major League
Speaker 1: Baseball waited until he was dead for about eight months
Speaker 1: before they made him eligible. That is something Pete wanted
Speaker 1: during the living years, and I knew it. Everyone thought
Speaker 1: it was coming after the President got involved and met
Speaker 1: with Rob Manfred and did this and did that, and
Speaker 1: eight months ago. It would have meant a lot more
Speaker 1: for Pete during the living years to understand these eligible
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. Whether it happens in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven or twenty thirty, that's another matter, but at
Speaker 1: least to be eligible is something. Do you have sense?
Speaker 1: Karen Fogus of the reds about whether is that something
Speaker 1: over with forget about or is that something kind of
Speaker 1: great to you a little bit?
Speaker 9: You know, today at the Boldfaced Park, Fawn Rose took
Speaker 9: the microphone and the first words out of her mouth was,
Speaker 9: I got.
Speaker 3: To tell you.
Speaker 9: She said, I have to thank Commissioner Manford. I visited
Speaker 9: him in December. He cared, he listened, he heard this,
Speaker 9: he was an advocate of this, He's been working on this.
Speaker 9: He stayed in touch with us. So if there's no
Speaker 9: bad blood between the remaining Rose family and the Commissioner
Speaker 9: of Baseball, then we're going to follow suit, honestly. And
Speaker 9: the best thing for my chair is the fact that Cooperstown,
Speaker 9: you know, came out right after you know that there
Speaker 9: was no hanging chad of what's what does this mean?
Speaker 9: So I do think that at least we got we
Speaker 9: got there. We got there, and there's no doubt for forever,
Speaker 9: you know, it is it's a shame that the you know,
Speaker 9: the numbers this guy put up as a player. We
Speaker 9: we'll see in our videos tonight. You know, we talked
Speaker 9: to all of our current players about Pete. Again. A
Speaker 9: lot of them think of their age, right, but they
Speaker 9: know now that they're playing and we talk about his numbers,
Speaker 9: their jaws are just like, I mean, that's just unbelievable.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know how and my best you know,
Speaker 9: I couldn't get there, you know, so he he's kind
Speaker 9: of outside of time. So the fact I'm not going
Speaker 9: to get hung up on the timing. Let's get our
Speaker 9: shoulders on the boulder to get him in right, Let's
Speaker 9: get him in and then look out when that happens,
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Well, if the family is on board, and if Fawn
Speaker 1: and Pete and Tyme and who am I? I? Who
Speaker 1: are you? I mean you're not family members. So if
Speaker 1: the family says they want it, I'm with it one
Speaker 1: thousand percent. Secondly, Bristol, Tennessee. I've seen on TV some
Speaker 1: of the NASCAR racing there bumper bumper to bumper, and
Speaker 1: August the second, there's still tickets available, the Reds are
Speaker 1: going to play. I think the Atlanta Braves explain what's
Speaker 1: happening in Bristol, Tennessee on August the second.
Speaker 9: You know, MLB's kind of started this thing where they
Speaker 9: like to take games and play them in non traditional locations.
Speaker 9: So Bristol Tennessee. The famous, famous Great NASCAR track sits
Speaker 9: right squarely in Red Country that overlaps with Braves Country.
Speaker 9: So they picked our two teams, took our regularly scheduled game,
Speaker 9: and they're gonna PLoP it right in the middle of
Speaker 9: that infield. So I got to go down and see it,
Speaker 9: and I got to tell you it's unbelievable. So as
Speaker 9: you can imagine, the infield of a NASCAR track is
Speaker 9: got a little bit of a diffinand it's like a
Speaker 9: big old bowl, if you will. So starting the first
Speaker 9: or second week here of June, when they get their
Speaker 9: last event over in Bristol, MLB is going to be
Speaker 9: in there with a swat team of people. It's going
Speaker 9: to take months to level out. They're gonna have to
Speaker 9: level the infield, They're going to have to construct a
Speaker 9: durrainable baseball field and have to construct dugouts, clubhouses, and
Speaker 9: it is going to be unbelievable. And the thing that
Speaker 9: makes it anybody who's been to Bristol knows this, because
Speaker 9: if I was a newbie, they have hanging in the
Speaker 9: middle of their infield, over the center of an outdoor
Speaker 9: NASCAR facility, a massive three story scoreboard. This it's going
Speaker 9: to they call Colossus. It's the kind of thing you'd
Speaker 9: see in the middle of an arena that can hang
Speaker 9: from a ceiling. They have this massive thing in the
Speaker 9: middle that is going to that. Therefore, they had to
Speaker 9: kind of justify the ball field over to one end
Speaker 9: so that the fly balls don't get caught up in
Speaker 9: that thing. But it is going to be amazing. So
Speaker 9: they've already obviously one far end of the seats won't
Speaker 9: be sold because they're a little too far away from
Speaker 9: the action. But they've already named you know, they're going
Speaker 9: to have the big concert in the beginning.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be great.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just one of those.
Speaker 9: Things that if you like NASCAR, if you dislike baseball,
Speaker 9: or you like doing something unique and you like driving
Speaker 9: to the beautiful state of Tennessee, I forgetting your car
Speaker 9: and go. They're gonna have an outdoor fan you know,
Speaker 9: experience a fan expo going on. That's gonna open at
Speaker 9: noon and then the gates will open around five to
Speaker 9: get inside, and then they'll be the concerts. It's with
Speaker 9: Tim McGraw that starts at six and the games at seven. Fifteen.
Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 3: And I can't even tell.
Speaker 9: You all the pregame stuff they're gonna do, you know,
Speaker 9: but it's just one of those things that raised the hats,
Speaker 9: always raised our hand. We're like field of dreams. We're
Speaker 9: in whatever wherever you want to send us, we're going.
Speaker 9: We went to Medxico from Monterey when we played down there, right,
Speaker 9: So we're always we're we always raise our hand.
Speaker 3: We'll go.
Speaker 1: The thing that's amazing about Tim McGraw says dad was
Speaker 1: Tug McGraw, and I think he was a teammate of
Speaker 1: Pete rose Is in nineteen eighty is that correct when
Speaker 1: they won the World Series?
Speaker 9: He was, he was as a matter of fact, he
Speaker 9: talked about that. That's gonna be part of what I
Speaker 9: think they do with all the pre publicity with him,
Speaker 9: which is fun. And this Saturday, so this weekend when
Speaker 9: we're playing Cleveland, we're doing a racing night team here because,
Speaker 9: as seg Man will testify, there's a lot of racing
Speaker 9: fans on your listening area. Yes, so we've got these
Speaker 9: we got these awesome cars of mister Red leg and
Speaker 9: we're giving them away. I mean the kind of things
Speaker 9: we're gonna do this weekend here. It's gonna be really
Speaker 9: fun and we're gonna seem it out big, just like
Speaker 9: we did when we did Star Wars Night. So that's
Speaker 9: gonna be Anybody who likes racing, come down here and
Speaker 9: watch us play the Guardian set right, it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Thousands and thousands of dump trucks filled with dirt to
Speaker 1: fill in and to rise the level of Bristol Motor Speedway.
Speaker 1: And then that's gonna take at least two months. August,
Speaker 1: the second tickets are still available. Sixty well sixty thousand
Speaker 1: have been sold and there's another maybe twenty thousand to sell,
Speaker 1: is that correct? Plus you get to see Tim mcbroough.
Speaker 1: I like it. I love it. I want some more
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, unbelievable exactly.
Speaker 9: It's just the say you did, why not? It's you know,
Speaker 9: it's August, it's the dog days of summer. Go go
Speaker 9: have some fun, all.
Speaker 1: Right once again, Karen Foregus of your Cincinnati Reds. No
Speaker 1: one does these things better than the Reds. Get their
Speaker 1: early gates open five fourteen for season ticket holders, five
Speaker 1: forty four for the rest got it in your seat
Speaker 1: by six point thirty when the program begins with but
Speaker 1: Marty's going to be there with Barry Larkin and Griffy
Speaker 1: Senior and George Foster and Eric Davis on the field
Speaker 1: and then special things Tither and fro and it's going
Speaker 1: to be special. The weather's cooperating. Thank god, this is
Speaker 1: coming through now, and Steve Rawley says by three o'clock
Speaker 1: it should be completely over with and things are clean
Speaker 1: and green, and hopefully the Reds can score more than
Speaker 1: one run. That's the goal tonight.
Speaker 9: Let's go Pete. Let's get him fired up up there
Speaker 9: with you.
Speaker 1: Please, Karen Forgus, Executive vice President of the Reds, once again,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we'll
Speaker 1: do it again. Thank you, Karen, Thanks for you see you.
Speaker 1: Now let's continue with more unbelievable Bristol Motor Speedway. Thousands
Speaker 1: of dump trucks to convert Bristol Motor Speedway into a
Speaker 1: baseball field. August the second and sixty thousand tickets have
Speaker 1: been sold as whatever the sellout is going to be.
Speaker 1: Segment tells me, I think there's one hundred thousand seats
Speaker 1: and by the configuration makes it more diffa we'll go
Speaker 1: out to play baseball in a Bristol motor speedway similar
Speaker 1: to the Field of Dreams. You might recall the Reds
Speaker 1: went to the Field of Dreams in Iowa where Kevin
Speaker 1: Costner had the movie, and I walked through the cornfield
Speaker 1: and walk in and play baseball. It's it's incredible. I
Speaker 1: wish the team between the white lines was as good
Speaker 1: as the marketing staff of the Cincinnati Reds if they award,
Speaker 1: If they would be, they'd beat the White Sox. If
Speaker 1: you can't beat the White Sox the night in tomorrow
Speaker 1: and not, I'd be shocked. All let's continue with more
Speaker 1: and if the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand plus at this event August the second, Tim
Speaker 1: McGraw for an hour's concert ahead of time and can't
Speaker 1: get much better. I letus continue two twenty three Home
Speaker 1: of Your Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 8: When you get into a wall, you never admit you're
Speaker 8: in a swamp. Don't ever let a picture tell you
Speaker 8: that you're in a swamp. I would tell people, do
Speaker 8: you do one of six things when they get into
Speaker 8: a wall.
Speaker 1: You know what they are? Yeah, okay, no, tell me
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 8: Closer to the pate for the way from the plate,
Speaker 8: up in the box, back in the box, choke up
Speaker 8: in the bat more, choke down the bat more, make
Speaker 8: it heavier, make it lighter. Never change your swing. Your
Speaker 8: swing got into the big lakes. You change your positioning.
Speaker 8: Uh in the batter's box. The only way you could
Speaker 8: jam me is I swung the ball that far inside.
Speaker 8: But I went into everything. I used to think I
Speaker 8: could hit the ball inside to right to left field
Speaker 8: batting left handed better than I could the other way,
Speaker 8: because you get all your power when you go like that.
Speaker 8: All right, I can have the same swing that's going
Speaker 8: to left field, this is going to center field.
Speaker 1: This is pooling.
Speaker 8: Just a difference in more where my hands are, same swing. Wow,
Speaker 8: pretty simple, Pete, that's church.
Speaker 6: Hello quiet, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: God, you know segment. Maybe possibly, Pete, the last few
Speaker 1: words could be played in the locker room tonight, because
Speaker 1: every one of the Reds are in a slump except
Speaker 1: Dela Cruz. Gonna move up in the box, move back
Speaker 1: in the box, Choke up a little bit, choke down
Speaker 1: a little bit, move forward, move back, move up, move down.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with the Reds hitting segment? I need to know.
Speaker 3: Right now, Willie, that that's everything they need to get it.
Speaker 3: Wait for the plate, closer to the plate. Up in
Speaker 3: the box, knack in the box, joke up on the bats,
Speaker 3: go down on the bat, or do whatever I mean,
Speaker 3: and one of them do one one of them do
Speaker 3: the other, and then the other one. Then they all switch.
Speaker 3: That's what they want to do. But Pete Rose right there, Willie,
Speaker 3: that is advice for any young hitters. I don't care
Speaker 3: if it's not hool or whatever face pall it is
Speaker 3: at college is something he was the proof of hitting.
Speaker 3: I mean that guy who was I mean that dip.
Speaker 3: I mean there's no forty six hips, nobody else that
Speaker 3: knew more about hitting the number fourteen. And they're going
Speaker 3: to do it tonight. Actually, Willie, it started here at
Speaker 3: about what twenty minutes live three o'clock at the Holy Grail.
Speaker 3: They're going to have the seven out of ww A
Speaker 3: Ciscinnati Tack Resolugent pea party presented by Columbia Hunt dot
Speaker 3: Com five down there at the Holy Grail, getting ready
Speaker 3: for the safe game. The night on Rose night if
Speaker 3: they honor him and a sold out crowd will be
Speaker 3: on hand, and hopefully the Reds will figure out their
Speaker 3: hitting for one night, maybe score for over thirteen run
Speaker 3: and then you know, go back to I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the roller coaster affairs. So far
Speaker 3: will he for this with his baseball team and hitting
Speaker 3: and scoring runs and trying not to run into each
Speaker 3: other in the outfields that last night I could have
Speaker 3: been ugly with with Steer and Li Dayla Cruz and
Speaker 3: Dayla Cruise almost ran in the cabin luck someday in Houston.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll say if Gordon Veterino was the
Speaker 1: fundamental coach for the Thomas Funeral Home, and he will
Speaker 1: tell you, right, Spencer, if you're going to go, go,
Speaker 1: but if you get in, if you stop and have
Speaker 1: to go back, guess what get in a pickle, because
Speaker 1: then you get Benson, who was on first could get
Speaker 1: the second. During the pickle. Everything Spencer Steer did was wrong.
Speaker 1: According to Gordon Veterino. They run into each other. It's
Speaker 1: like the Bad News Bears. They throw to the wrong base.
Speaker 1: They try to get somebody out at home, allowing the
Speaker 1: runner to go to second. Fundamentally, they stink. And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to this point, Tito Francona maybe saying to the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Marty Brenneman, what the hell did you
Speaker 1: get me into?
Speaker 3: I don't know whether I think manager Francona to figure
Speaker 3: it out day by day because he is uh. I
Speaker 3: don't know. They come up with a different problem almost
Speaker 3: on a daily paper. But hopefully tonight they can, right yep,
Speaker 3: And they could beat the White Sucks today tomorrow and
Speaker 3: then go into the you know, they they got to
Speaker 3: get some momentum, will either for this weekend because it's
Speaker 3: the battle at the start of the battle for the
Speaker 3: Ohio Cup.
Speaker 1: Oh boy Guardians, and you.
Speaker 3: Know he's been on he's been on the winning end
Speaker 3: of the on the Ohio Cup for the past few years.
Speaker 3: And the Reds are not.
Speaker 1: The Reds are five games out of first place. I
Speaker 1: think they've gone two and eight the last ten games.
Speaker 1: And this is supposedly the soft part of the schedule.
Speaker 1: If you can't beat the White Sox, hell, you can't
Speaker 1: beat anybody. The White Sox stink well and well that.
Speaker 3: Was their first win last night on the roads in
Speaker 3: late April and they're only their fourth away from Johntown
Speaker 3: and the Reds are zero to five and extra innings.
Speaker 3: They put a guy at second base for a free run.
Speaker 1: Can't score?
Speaker 3: How does that happen?
Speaker 1: Can't scor happen? Can't score?
Speaker 3: You get a runner at second and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: get him you know, get him over, get him.
Speaker 1: In, get him up, get him over, get him in.
Speaker 1: I don't know the second let's see.
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Speaker 3: to Site and Covington on ESPN fifteen thirty. Like you said, Willie,
Speaker 3: looks like the Frangals are going to open Act Cleveland
Speaker 3: and the opener and then week two will be the
Speaker 3: home opener for the Bengals at take Horse Stadium against
Speaker 3: those Jacksonville Daguarres. But that's only that's only rumors going around.
Speaker 1: Oh that's two and oh big Cleveland. I don't know
Speaker 1: Sander's going to be the quarterback. One o'clock September the seventh,
Speaker 1: they beat Cleveland, come home with big Jacksonville. Let's not
Speaker 1: go oh and three. You know what I'm saying, Can
Speaker 1: you smell when I'm coming?
Speaker 3: That would be advisable not to go over at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the season and then work your way out
Speaker 3: of a hole with a lot of the teams that
Speaker 3: you know that they're not going to play you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you know they're they're they're going to play tough games,
Speaker 3: eating every week, and you know, don't start out to
Speaker 3: and oh the point that the city will go for dark, well.
Speaker 1: At least not to look go zero in three. And
Speaker 1: that's a pretty easy schedule. In fact, how about this
Speaker 1: old fact toy segment. Someone made a list of the
Speaker 1: NFL teams at thirty two as far as how many
Speaker 1: miles they're going to travel and all their away games
Speaker 1: last thirty two they travel eight thousand miles total, and
Speaker 1: some of the teams travel thirty thousand miles. Everything.
Speaker 3: Minnesota's got to go to Europe flight.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I see a
Speaker 1: crisis everywhere, nothing but a crisis.
Speaker 3: And the left Procer tonight when they are beloved, Orange
Speaker 3: and Blue on the road at Toronto Left at seven o'clock.
Speaker 3: Sports thirteen sixty College Basketball, the Skyline, Chilly crossedown Food.
Speaker 3: Reportedly it's set for Friday, December, fifth year Team Xavier
Speaker 3: at the Simpok Center Friday night.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: How about that? Well?
Speaker 1: I also, of course I talked to Karen Kraft about Bristol.
Speaker 1: You know more by listen I do, And she said
Speaker 1: they're going to fill in the Bristol Motor Speedway spent
Speaker 1: about nine weeks in construction. They've sold sixty thousand tickets
Speaker 1: to watch the Reds and the Braves playing Bristol Motor
Speaker 1: Speedway on Red in August the second. And they have
Speaker 1: Tim McGraw, whose dad, Tug McGraw that he got sideways
Speaker 1: with you know, Live like you were dying, was on
Speaker 1: the team in nineteen eighty where Pete Rose won the
Speaker 1: World championship with Tony Perez. Correct, Tug McGraw, wasn't he
Speaker 1: the reliever?
Speaker 3: That's correct? That's correct. Lily and then Happy birthday to
Speaker 3: the Big Dog and the former Reds manager today number
Speaker 3: twenty four Tony Perez the faith Dog. When you wanted
Speaker 3: an RBI, he was the man you wanted it. The plate.
Speaker 1: How old? How old is the Big Dog?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't have, but seventy something, probably your closet.
Speaker 1: Eighty gotta be you gotta be eighty something.
Speaker 3: Living down there in Miyami. But the Big Dog is
Speaker 3: their Happy birthday to the double.
Speaker 1: Let the Big Dog eat. He was born in the
Speaker 1: May fort Hey. There it is again, he was born
Speaker 1: May fourteenth, nineteen forty two segment you believe it or not?
Speaker 1: There that makes him eighty three years old. Eighty three
Speaker 1: It looks it looking like a million. It looks pretty good.
Speaker 3: I know, So I don't know. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: just get a win tonight on Pete Rose Knight willly
Speaker 3: and make everybody happy and a sold out crowd.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I got some text here from your good friends
Speaker 1: at WEBN, including Sarah Elise and Kid Chris, taking you
Speaker 1: to task for saying that Trey Hendrickson should get a
Speaker 1: contract extension when he's already signed. This year he put
Speaker 1: his blood and black ink on a piece of paper,
Speaker 1: well represented by agents and lawyers, that I will pay
Speaker 1: I will play in twenty twenty five for like sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars for the Bengals. I give my word, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it. And then as a Christian man,
Speaker 1: he turns his back. Was like Jesus Christ with the
Speaker 1: money changers and said, I'm not going to play, even
Speaker 1: though I promised to pay to play this year for
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars. Why do you defend Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's no answer.
Speaker 3: You asked me question. I'm kind of disappointed. I don't
Speaker 3: have a Peinte Rose whiz from you know who. I
Speaker 3: don't want to bring up his dame, but you know,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you don't have to answer seventy five questions
Speaker 3: to prove that I'm a big Pete Rose fan. Today.
Speaker 1: Well, all I can say I have.
Speaker 3: Bruce Poaching, Steve Rogers, Jim Hickman. Hit that ball that
Speaker 3: knocks the Pete in at an All Star game. Carmelo Melo, Mello,
Speaker 3: Carmelo Marquitez. Field of the ball forty one nine maybe
Speaker 3: two out in the amlefield and the left all.
Speaker 1: Right, here's the question from the wild Man for you.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 1: It was a Crosley field and they were playing the
Speaker 1: Uh the first hit that Pete Rose had. It was
Speaker 1: a crosley field. What team did they play? Who was
Speaker 1: on the mound, and what kind of hit did Pete
Speaker 1: Rose get? That's from the wild Man.
Speaker 3: What it's like three and one? Now it is?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on? What is it?
Speaker 3: I look at it?
Speaker 1: What is I know that automatically it was Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 1: The picture was Bob Friend and he hit a triple.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: You were gonna say, Bob Friend of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 3: Really, yep, yep, I was at a triple.
Speaker 1: That's true. And then what was his last hit? Who
Speaker 1: did he get his last hit off of? And uh
Speaker 1: what team did he get to? It was nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: six with the Reds.
Speaker 3: Uh. Well, I had that question yesterday. I'm not receding answered.
Speaker 1: All right, But who was catching when pe Rose got
Speaker 1: forty one ninety two at Riverfront Stadium? That's correct, Bruce Coach,
Speaker 1: who did pretty well managing, I think correct.
Speaker 3: And his last out was a strikeout by Goustsy.
Speaker 1: That's correct too, but wild Man, I knew Bob Friend
Speaker 1: April the ninth, nineteen sixty three triple at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Car Yeah, everybody knows that.
Speaker 1: Everybody. That was an easy one. I'm surprised you, miss,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised a right segment. Where are you now? Where
Speaker 1: are you now?
Speaker 3: By the way, I made it to paint, so Willie
Speaker 3: and I'm heading home.
Speaker 1: How how was carbration day at the speedway.
Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Motors Speedway of Knights and Sunshine. It's dry
Speaker 3: after the few monks rain this morning, there was delayed
Speaker 3: everything for about five four or five hours. But they're
Speaker 3: on the track and then they're getting ready for qualifying
Speaker 3: this under this weekend.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is the weather here looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: You're about thirty forty miles west of here. Is the
Speaker 1: still raining in Batesville.
Speaker 3: No, it's beautiful sunshine and blue sky here at the
Speaker 3: Faithsville McDonald.
Speaker 1: In fact, in fact, in about an hour is going
Speaker 1: to be uh river front. I mean, a great American
Speaker 1: ballpark's going to be bathed in sunshine. The weather's going
Speaker 1: to look great. And once again Karen Craft said, if
Speaker 1: you're a season ticket holder, which I'm sure you are,
Speaker 1: gates open at five fourteen. If you're not a season
Speaker 1: ticket holder, gates open at five forty four, according to
Speaker 1: Karen Craft Karen Fororgus, and then you've got to be
Speaker 1: a receipt by six point thirty for all the festivities
Speaker 1: involving Marty, Barry Senior Foster and Eric Davis. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Amen to that baby, that's that's that. We're going to
Speaker 3: carry that.
Speaker 1: Live and give me out of the Stude's report. We have,
Speaker 1: of course of business special tomorrow. I will not be
Speaker 1: with you. The weather looks serviceable until Thursday night segment.
Speaker 1: Give me out of the stooge report.
Speaker 3: We'll be in honor of a beautiful day here at
Speaker 3: the crime Statiu. Rose. We think about you every day,
Speaker 3: every minute, every hour. You're the greater. We leave you
Speaker 3: with the immortal word of the report.
Speaker 5: He levels about a couple of times, shall kicks and
Speaker 5: he fires.
Speaker 1: Rose wains. We learn Dawn.
Speaker 5: His number forty one ninety two, A live drive single
Speaker 5: into loft center piel a clean basin and in this
Speaker 5: pandemonium here at River Prince Stadium, the fire works ex
Speaker 5: clothing over ahead. The Cincinnati dugout has emptied the applause continues.
Speaker 6: Out of baton, Rose.
Speaker 5: Is completely encircled by his teammates at first base. Bobby
Speaker 5: Brown on the San Diego is coming all the way
Speaker 5: from the third phase, dugout to personally congratulate Pete Rose,
Speaker 5: and the kind of out pouring evagulation that I don't
Speaker 5: think you'll ever see an athlete get any more of
Speaker 5: little Pete fighting his way through the crowd and Pete
Speaker 5: being hoisted on the shoulders. I'm a couple of his teammates,
Speaker 5: Tony Perez and Dave Concepcion, the last two of the
Speaker 5: Old Guard from the Big Red Machine days of the seventies.
Speaker 1: Segment September the eleventh used to mean glory now kind
Speaker 1: of connotes something a little bit different. But it was
Speaker 1: unbelievable the journey that Pete Rose made from September the eleventh,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, until he laid on his prison cont
Speaker 1: in October of nineteen ninety trying to listen on a
Speaker 1: transistor radio the final out when his team, the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety Reds beat the Oakland A's the Bash Boys. He
Speaker 1: was lying in a federal prison and staring at the
Speaker 1: season in the dark. You talk about the highest of
Speaker 1: highs and the lowest the low segment. Pete Rose experienced it.
Speaker 3: That's for sure, Willie, that's for cure.
Speaker 1: All right, we got to run segment. See you soon
Speaker 1: and God bless you and God bless the family of
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. Thank you, segment.
Speaker 3: See you later.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more of the festivities. Continue now from
Speaker 1: the Holy Grail with all the stars will be there,
Speaker 1: including Eddie the Rock and the segment's good friend wile
Speaker 1: Man Walker with more questions for him on news radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.