Speaker 1: Praya von Doom, my guest for the evening. You know
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Speaker 1: on the show. Praya, it's a pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck you. Thank you for having me, Thank you.
Speaker 1: For being on. Let me start with a really odd
Speaker 1: question to begin with, what do you consider with everything
Speaker 1: you do, the whole breadth of it. What is your
Speaker 1: job title being awesome?
Speaker 2: I fucked bitches and get money. My life is awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right?
Speaker 2: One a job title, I would just say, like just
Speaker 2: an artist, if I had to choose one thing all
Speaker 2: around artists, because what I see like porn being as
Speaker 2: sex as emotion, emotion right the rocks or you can
Speaker 2: create with as a human body, and it's improvement throughout
Speaker 2: time and sculptures and paintings and drawings and theatrics. So
Speaker 2: the fact that we get to capture that shit on camera,
Speaker 2: it's so beautiful to me and artistic as well. So
Speaker 2: I guess whether I'm on the camera, off the camera.
Speaker 2: Either way, I'm being an artist in itself. So there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: I've heard artist. I've heard obviously, content creator. I've heard
Speaker 1: social media manager. Hot girl, social media manager. I heard
Speaker 1: from someone. I was like, that's awesome, and I mean,
Speaker 1: she is a porn star. But when you think about
Speaker 1: all the additional work that goes in, you know, you
Speaker 1: shoot a X amount of hour scene and then how
Speaker 1: much worth of edit if it's your own personal one
Speaker 1: editing promotion. This that I think the general consensus, not
Speaker 1: general consensus, but the ignorant kind of out of the
Speaker 1: industry Consensusspraya shows up on set, she gets fucked for
Speaker 1: about a half hour. Well it's an hour long scene,
Speaker 1: so maybe an hour. Then she goes home, she counts
Speaker 1: her tens of thousands of dollars she got paid for
Speaker 1: that day, and never has to do anything again. It's
Speaker 1: not generally the concept, is it?
Speaker 2: No? I mean it's it's pretty fun. I would say
Speaker 2: my job. I've gotten to a point in my career
Speaker 2: where I get to pick and choose what I do
Speaker 2: now if I feel like even shooting for a mainstream
Speaker 2: company too, So for me, it's like I only choose
Speaker 2: projects that I see potential in it, or that I
Speaker 2: see is going to be super fucking fun, that's like
Speaker 2: worth my time. So for me, it pretty much is
Speaker 2: like at this point, like I show up, I get
Speaker 2: paid a shit ton of money to fuck my friends,
Speaker 2: and I have a freaking blouse.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So maybe it does lean a little more
Speaker 1: that way to how the general person sees it for you,
Speaker 1: but that obviously came from years of grinding and hard
Speaker 1: work to get there, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot. There were some days where I
Speaker 2: shop homework and I'd be like, fuck this person ugly
Speaker 2: as all. I'm glad Jesus made doggy Style for a reason.
Speaker 2: God damn it, we're coming back to that. That's one
Speaker 2: of my questions later on. Let me ask you, though,
Speaker 2: Let's just se the boring one and clear it out
Speaker 2: of the way. Not boring, I'm sure, I'm sure it's exciting,
Speaker 2: But how did you initially decide to get into the
Speaker 2: adult entertainment industry?
Speaker 1: Was it? Did you have a gig before and then
Speaker 1: this was like the crossover where You're like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore, I'm stepping in or did
Speaker 1: you just go in full force right away, like what
Speaker 1: was your journey? Not to sound corny, but no, it's.
Speaker 2: Not corny at all. So for me, I come from
Speaker 2: a film background. I went to school for creative writing
Speaker 2: and scriptwriting so ever, degree in screenwriting and production and
Speaker 2: a master's in entertainment business. So I come from like
Speaker 2: the film word world anyway, And that was my job.
Speaker 2: I was working on television commer I still do television,
Speaker 2: Durren commercials and music video. It's mostly music videos these days.
Speaker 2: I produced. But I started sleeping with a playboy playmate,
Speaker 2: and she and I've always been curious about porn. I've
Speaker 2: always been super sexual freak. Everyone that I've ever dated,
Speaker 2: we used to throw orgies and massive party like I've
Speaker 2: always been very just hyper sexual as you will. And
Speaker 2: so like whenever I started seeing this girl, is just like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, like fit me on set, let me see
Speaker 2: what this sills all fucking about, like the same like
Speaker 2: you only live fucking once, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Joey ban So, fuck it, let's try it out. If
Speaker 2: it's not for me, I'm just gonna fuck right off.
Speaker 2: It's fun. And so I went and it was all
Speaker 2: fucking blast. We butt ass naked on set. Everyone's on set.
Speaker 2: They all treat you with so much respect, you're all joking,
Speaker 2: you're eating like. It feels just so natural. Even when
Speaker 2: a very sharp on a set where people that I
Speaker 2: don't really know are on there, it still feels so comfortable,
Speaker 2: as opposed to being on like a commercial set or
Speaker 2: a TV set where I'm fully closed and I'm still
Speaker 2: kind of getting talked to hype away sometimes because I'm
Speaker 2: four foot fucking eight, a little girl bossing people around.
Speaker 2: You know, some people are not gonna like that too much,
Speaker 2: like some people might have some animosities. So it's like, huh,
Speaker 2: what makes me happiest at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Fucking porn And plus I get paid a ton of
Speaker 2: money to fuck these hot people. What no fucking I said,
Speaker 2: thank you, wambam, thank you man, high five my grandmother
Speaker 2: and was like, thank you for giving birth to my
Speaker 2: family line, because this life is awesome.
Speaker 1: Any college kids out there, just so you know, she
Speaker 1: is a degree in script writing, a bachelor's and you
Speaker 1: have more than that. I have a bachelor's in television,
Speaker 1: radio and film production. So if you go to film school,
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up doing something in porn, most likely Mike,
Speaker 1: what did you do? What did I do? I haven't
Speaker 1: done it. I do this. I do podcasting. It's funny. Television, radio,
Speaker 1: and film. I like radio the best. It's like I've
Speaker 1: always loved just listening to people talk, as stupid as
Speaker 1: that sounds, because it reminds me of especially if it's
Speaker 1: a comedy show or something like that, reminds me of
Speaker 1: working at best By warehouse in the back. The guys
Speaker 1: are busting balls. I just like being around conversation, and
Speaker 1: I like hearing interesting conversations. Funny, in college, my professor
Speaker 1: used to tell me all the time. He'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: you really half asked this, and I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I did. I didn't do a great job on that.
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily care. And then he would say, well,
Speaker 1: you can always direct porn. And you know, we're moving along,
Speaker 1: we're taking sious.
Speaker 2: What kind of porn? Where'd you direct?
Speaker 1: You know. It's weird because I my preferences on porn
Speaker 1: are so much more advanced than my skill set would be.
Speaker 1: I like watching Damn, she's interviewing me. Look how she
Speaker 1: turned it around. I really like group stuff. I like
Speaker 1: the constant movement. I like almost the free use aspect
Speaker 1: of it, where you know, we're all consenting here, we're
Speaker 1: all agreeing, everyone's good. So this guy can jump to
Speaker 1: this girl. And I like the idea of the girl
Speaker 1: experiencing multiple men, different sizes, different grabbing of the hips.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, What could I shoot? I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a solo on a cell phone. Maybe if you
Speaker 1: ask me, I'll light it real well for you. But no,
Speaker 1: I what I like? I you know I've wrought it
Speaker 1: my and look, neither of us here or anti porn whatsoever,
Speaker 1: but I personally have absolutely rotted my brain with porn,
Speaker 1: so the normal stuff doesn't do it for me anymore.
Speaker 1: And not weird or gross or anything like that. More
Speaker 1: just multiplying the people is what I'm looking for. More
Speaker 1: in there, getting it around me lean mee, ask have
Speaker 1: you directed anything yet? Like direct it either?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, lot? What is your favorite thing to direct, type
Speaker 1: or niche or whatever it is and what is your
Speaker 1: least favorite? What is something that you again like me go,
Speaker 1: if you were setting it up, you were asked to
Speaker 1: do the scene, you had the idea of doing the scene,
Speaker 1: what is something you would be like, Oh, fuck this
Speaker 1: is I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Well. One thing that I would not be excited for
Speaker 2: is like lovey dovey wore your to make love. So
Speaker 2: I like hardcore shit, like I like to show up
Speaker 2: on sets, smack somebody around and called them a little bit,
Speaker 2: spit in their fucking face, making choke on my piss,
Speaker 2: or like pro a fucking funnel in their acid piss,
Speaker 2: and make them call me a good girl, like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Or but whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: like softcore stuff, it's like, Okay, that's really sweet. And
Speaker 2: it's also really hard to make talent want to like
Speaker 2: actually be passionate. That's another factor to it, other than
Speaker 2: that's not my personal thing. But a lot of these
Speaker 2: talents like they don't like to kiss each other, and
Speaker 2: a lot of that concludes like being passionate, like passionately
Speaker 2: kissing passionately like And I feel like I have to
Speaker 2: like direct even more whenever I do this because I'm
Speaker 2: telling people, okay, like cress their body, what do you mean,
Speaker 2: russ like bitch like crass, like you know what I
Speaker 2: feel like, It's just it kisses me off because I
Speaker 2: have to like direct more hand whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: like BDSM, I'm like, Okay, let your body just speak
Speaker 2: to you, like, let's just fucking go, Like, listen to
Speaker 2: what I fucking tell you. You do it however that
Speaker 2: you want to interpret doing it, and it's usually more expressive.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't denigrate any of the three
Speaker 1: levels of porn that I'm gonna describe right here. You
Speaker 1: have your top top end stuff, the beautiful lighting I'm
Speaker 1: thinking like Vixen, I'm thinking stuff like that, right really
Speaker 1: just perfectly lit, beautiful. Then you have your middle tier,
Speaker 1: which is good production, real gonzo, we're jumping in, we're
Speaker 1: doing stuff. Generally those sites have a specific niche or
Speaker 1: a specific thing we're going for. Then that bottom tier
Speaker 1: is like you know, grainy camera, you hear Drake in
Speaker 1: the background. You're like, I don't think they have the
Speaker 1: rights to that. But going totally, I like living in
Speaker 1: that middle tier. The top stuff is just too pretty
Speaker 1: for me, like you said, a little too sensual, a
Speaker 1: little too beautiful, too many caressing people, not necessarily my
Speaker 1: thing do you prefer? And again that's again not a
Speaker 1: denigration to any of those. They all have their specific things.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying one's better than the other. I'm talking
Speaker 1: more production quality. Do you prefer to watch any of
Speaker 1: those levels over the other ones or no, Well, the
Speaker 1: ones that.
Speaker 2: I like to watch and do, I pretty much like
Speaker 2: the top tier. Like whenever I shoot for my only
Speaker 2: fens content, I have directors and producers. I have like
Speaker 2: a whole pa like a whole set, Like it's literally
Speaker 2: like I run it like we're shooting it at because
Speaker 2: like I write out the whole script and everything, like
Speaker 2: it's a whole fucking scene that we're gonna do. If
Speaker 2: you're shooting OnlyFans content with me, like we're going to
Speaker 2: actually do a fucking movie and it's going to look
Speaker 2: beautiful and cinematic and fucking insane because I want things
Speaker 2: that like it's not the norm, like things that you're
Speaker 2: not really gonna get from people. And I can also
Speaker 2: make it look amateur too, but either way, it's going
Speaker 2: to still be a big production creating some kind of quality.
Speaker 2: And so it depends on the talent, because some talent
Speaker 2: prefer gonzo instead with the Gonzo, it's going to be
Speaker 2: a high quality kind of crazy gonzo, But it depends
Speaker 2: some of them. Like I just did one with Club Sandy,
Speaker 2: where I did like a red room esque kind of
Speaker 2: thing that turned out to be very cinematic, but it
Speaker 2: holds at like that grimy feel to it, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it varies. And then I did one with these for
Speaker 2: Beautiful Girls and it was very I guess amateur esquecause
Speaker 2: we tried to do it from like our little povs
Speaker 2: in the background and cuteese. But either way, it was
Speaker 2: still a big set, like I had a big crew
Speaker 2: there and everything and handling it.
Speaker 1: So what's a red room type? But the only reference
Speaker 1: to a red room I have is like a murder
Speaker 1: room in a dark web video, and that's because I
Speaker 1: saw a foreign movie one time. Is that just are
Speaker 1: we lighting it red or we doing I legitimately don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, A lot of it is like it depends
Speaker 2: on what you want to say red room too. I
Speaker 2: should be careful with that because some people might get
Speaker 2: but hurt. For me, it's like having like an actual
Speaker 2: red dungeon feel like a dark like, oh shit, the
Speaker 2: moment just changed. It's gonna give you goosebumps. You're kind
Speaker 2: of scared round now, like, oh my god, I'm scared.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And then other red rooms. I just like thought,
Speaker 2: like what kind of like this like just a cute,
Speaker 2: too little red room. So I guess it depends on people,
Speaker 2: But for me, a red room is like an actual
Speaker 2: like red room, like dungeon and scary good.
Speaker 1: Feel what do you like better? That's not a sentence.
Speaker 1: What do you like to do better? And that's not
Speaker 1: a sentence either, Correctly, you like being in front of
Speaker 1: the camera behind the camera more.
Speaker 2: See. I like being in front of the camera because
Speaker 2: it's a fucking blast and I'm very like dominant and aggressive,
Speaker 2: and even whenever I am behind the camera, I still
Speaker 2: end up taking control over the whole situation and everything,
Speaker 2: and I'm always like, all right, fuck it, let me
Speaker 2: just hop in and like do things. So I like
Speaker 2: to be in front of the camera because it's like
Speaker 2: it just feels so natural and so fun and it's
Speaker 2: really good to like lead a scene and then watch
Speaker 2: my co stars just have fun with it. And I
Speaker 2: find out my coasts have way more fun whenever I'm
Speaker 2: in front of the camera with them than maybe behind
Speaker 2: the camera telling them like do better, bitch, like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Were you a theater kid growing up?
Speaker 2: No? No, I was a four university athlete, and I
Speaker 2: was always in the newspapers. I won so many awards,
Speaker 2: it's I've literally I had a scholarship to college for
Speaker 2: a ride for running. I was a four university track
Speaker 2: and cross country runner, and I was a sports journalist,
Speaker 2: so I was really in the athletic.
Speaker 1: My wife and I are rewatching mad Men right now, right,
Speaker 1: and I look at John Hamm, and apparently John Hamm
Speaker 1: has a giant dick like the size of my arm.
Speaker 1: So you look like that you have that talent and
Speaker 1: you have a giant dick. I don't think that's fair
Speaker 1: because there's somebody else that when he was being created,
Speaker 1: they took all that talent from and gave it to
Speaker 1: him by accident. So what you're telling me is, you're
Speaker 1: an athlete, you're a creative genius. You are very sexy,
Speaker 1: and you are in control of situations. You know how
Speaker 1: to take control of situations. Have you ever felt bad
Speaker 1: for that girl somewhere with like no legs and uh,
Speaker 1: you know she can't has one eye that doesn't work
Speaker 1: because you took all her talent away from her.
Speaker 2: No, because she could be making a shit ton of
Speaker 2: money having no legs in one. I are you kidding
Speaker 2: me that? Girls, you'd be rolling in money with her
Speaker 2: one arm or whatever he's left over. God damn money.
Speaker 2: I hope you're making bank out there, and I hope
Speaker 2: I fuck you one day.
Speaker 1: Your name obviously comes from the Marvel character I assume
Speaker 1: my last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, doctor Doom.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you like an actual comic fan or did
Speaker 1: you just grab that name because it's cool.
Speaker 2: I actually went to college initially for comic book writing,
Speaker 2: and then I found out that I really fucking suck
Speaker 2: at drawing, Like I can't draw like my stake figures.
Speaker 2: I fucking lopsided. It's shitty as fuck. And I'm lucky
Speaker 2: that the school that I went to was like my classes,
Speaker 2: how you every type of writing style, and I just
Speaker 2: like felt so natural into screenwriting that I was just like,
Speaker 2: you know what, this is a way better thing than
Speaker 2: I can write out comic book characters like series and
Speaker 2: movies and TV shows. And that's what I actually did
Speaker 2: in my classes. I would create like comic book characters
Speaker 2: and write them as like stories and shit. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm ot in the middle with that.
Speaker 1: You know What's so funny to me? Is you went
Speaker 1: to school for it. But your concept at that time
Speaker 1: was because there aren't there artists and writers, aren't they
Speaker 1: separate most of them. Your concept at that time was still,
Speaker 1: I need to do everything with this.
Speaker 2: Exactly that that's my problem. I always want full control
Speaker 2: and everything, even with like my work life, I have
Speaker 2: full control over literally everything. I just I love it.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel very nice.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned something before, and it's in your bike.
Speaker 1: You were four foot eight? Is that legally, uh you
Speaker 1: could get handicapped passes?
Speaker 2: I fucking tried so hear this shit. I went to
Speaker 2: the fucking place to try to get it, because, like bro,
Speaker 2: I can't reach past the second shelf first of all
Speaker 2: of anything, of any fucking thing. Whenever I troup things
Speaker 2: or cook things, the shelf is up to here. I
Speaker 2: walk into a fucking bar. Afterwards, the letter is just
Speaker 2: like be like hi, you know. And so I told
Speaker 2: the lady at the place, I was like, hey, like
Speaker 2: my life, like I kind of need some help here,
Speaker 2: some disability, like I can't say it with a fucking guy.
Speaker 2: And she was just like, well, how does it impact
Speaker 2: your work life? Does it impact your money? And I
Speaker 2: was like fuck, I didn't say that's out loud, but
Speaker 2: I was like, if anything, I make more money being
Speaker 2: so fucking tiny. God damn it. And I just stared
Speaker 2: at her and she stared back at me, and then
Speaker 2: she kind of just laughed and was like, that doesn't
Speaker 2: impact due. I was like, I can't reach the second shelf,
Speaker 2: and she was like, you can get a step stool.
Speaker 2: And I was like when I drive after wear booster seat,
Speaker 2: and she was like a lot of people do that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, fuck, So I didn't get
Speaker 2: away with it. I just my friend told me that
Speaker 2: I should have walked in there with a fucking limp
Speaker 2: and like baggy clothes and I should have pretended like
Speaker 2: I was in like horrible shape, and I didn't. I
Speaker 2: fucked up. I really fucked up. Guys.
Speaker 1: No, you did the right thing. I'll tell you this story. Now.
Speaker 1: I come off as like a really nice guy, but
Speaker 1: like the second someone's driving too slow or I get
Speaker 1: annoyed with something, that's when all the sea words start
Speaker 1: flying out of my mouth.
Speaker 2: My fingers so blasted.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I pulled up to a crumble cookie the
Speaker 1: other day. It was my wife's birthday and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get her couple cookies for the family and whatever.
Speaker 1: And I see this old couple park in one handicapped
Speaker 1: spot in front of me, and you know, the wife
Speaker 1: gets out very slowly and the husband's waiting in the car.
Speaker 1: And then I see like this, you know, mid forties,
Speaker 1: white lady pull into the next handicap spot, no sticker,
Speaker 1: nothing on the plate. She walks inside the crumble cookie. Umm,
Speaker 1: so what do you guys have here? I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: cook they have cookies. Lady like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it's just annoyed. She wasted so much time. And
Speaker 1: I thought of that lady. I was like, what if
Speaker 1: there was another couple that needed to park there and
Speaker 1: some other old lady? So I spit on her window
Speaker 1: on the way out because fuck her. I'm yeah, I'm gross.
Speaker 1: Like what do you want for me? I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a justice seeker. I seek senses of justice. You know,
Speaker 1: do you think any of your dominant personality you are
Speaker 1: in a positive way? Controlling personality? That sounds negative, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the same way, I
Speaker 1: got to touch everything I'm doing because because I don't
Speaker 1: want to get mad at you for doing it. The
Speaker 1: way it wasn't seen in my head.
Speaker 2: Exactly re like I don't want any of those issues,
Speaker 2: Like I want everything cleared by me, so if something
Speaker 2: does fuck up, I know it's my fault.
Speaker 1: Like, does any of your sense of that come from
Speaker 1: being a smaller person?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think like I think it
Speaker 2: came from being in college, to be completely honest, because
Speaker 2: I used to be so relaxed and just chill, and
Speaker 2: then like I would let my classmates take over assignments
Speaker 2: and shit, and they would always fuck it up, and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, da da da, it's fine, and
Speaker 2: slowly that kind of like would start eating away, and
Speaker 2: then eventually I would just start getting angry. And then
Speaker 2: a little bit of me change from my frontal lobe
Speaker 2: fully developed at twenty five, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: you know what, fuck this shit. I can do it
Speaker 2: way better than everyone else. I don't have to yo
Speaker 2: with yell at anyone. I can just fucking do it
Speaker 2: on my own. I think my frontal lobe really is
Speaker 2: like the thing that really took over everything, because beforehand
Speaker 2: I was just like a little fucking pixie, like yay,
Speaker 2: like just do whatever everyone else wants to do. I
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. That's why in the beginning of
Speaker 2: my career, if you look back on it, I was
Speaker 2: just a party girl. I didn't really care. I was
Speaker 2: just more like let da no da da, and just
Speaker 2: a pretty little thing, do whatever everyone else wants me
Speaker 2: to do. And then I'm just like, no, fuck that,
Speaker 2: I have to write everything off. I have to figure
Speaker 2: out what's the idea beforehand. I like, I have to
Speaker 2: know everything. So I think it's when this fully developed,
Speaker 2: and whenever I lost my fucking patience with my classmates,
Speaker 2: that's when I finally was like okay, and then I
Speaker 2: liked it. I like it a lot because then I
Speaker 2: never failed after that. I had straight d's in every
Speaker 2: single class. I had like everything in life and anything
Speaker 2: that I've ever wanted to do, and like in this career,
Speaker 2: like my other career, like in life in general, I've
Speaker 2: always done it within a year's time. So like literally
Speaker 2: any hurdle, everything, it's all just because I took over.
Speaker 1: You know, I have real middle management vibe. I really
Speaker 1: like setting the tone of the project, letting other people
Speaker 1: do it, and then come in at the end to go,
Speaker 1: let's change this, let's do this. Differently, Let's change this differently,
Speaker 1: and good to go.
Speaker 2: You like a CEO. You come in with the finder
Speaker 2: and you tell everyone, Okay, this is what you guys
Speaker 2: are gonna do, and then you leave for like a
Speaker 2: couple hours and come back right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Shit, I do it. I do it nicer though, present
Speaker 1: it like, oh, that's a terrible idea. What if we
Speaker 1: did this instead? You know? And I smile a lot
Speaker 1: and I kind of, you know, maybe that's a better idea,
Speaker 1: don't you think? And then they go, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: so your personality makes me laugh. That's pretty much how
Speaker 1: I've slid through life.
Speaker 2: I think essentially, you're so fucking nice. I would have
Speaker 2: told them to come over here and put my fists
Speaker 2: in the mouth and made them read out loud what
Speaker 2: they wrote down and be like, how stupid does that
Speaker 2: fucking sound? Right? Let me?
Speaker 1: Okay, has any and I won't ask you for names
Speaker 1: this whole time. I'm not going to ask you at
Speaker 1: all her names. But have you ever been on set
Speaker 1: and had to lose it on someone because of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have. I've been sent to Asia a couple
Speaker 2: of def yo. I'm just gonna say this for all
Speaker 2: the males watching it. If I tell you, don't fuck
Speaker 2: like a jack rabbit right now, because I have the
Speaker 2: camera up close on your fucking penis and a vagina,
Speaker 2: and I'm asking you multiple fucking times just long dick
Speaker 2: it for the camera and you don't long diket. It's
Speaker 2: not my fucking fault that you end up getting hit Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I warned you. I'm Latino. I have a temper.
Speaker 1: Does that okay? All right?
Speaker 2: If you do and it's a light top, it's like
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Thing, sure, totally, Yeah.
Speaker 2: A little dig flick, a little something. Get your shit together.
Speaker 1: Does it make it hard to finish a scene after
Speaker 1: that though?
Speaker 2: Or no? No, no, it doesn't all right because yet again,
Speaker 2: I don't work with people that aren't my friends either,
Speaker 2: So I'm like, they already know my personality tape, they
Speaker 2: know everything. We're able to just keep the ball rolling
Speaker 2: your ahead.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier, but and again, no names unless
Speaker 1: you specifically want to call them out. What happens. I
Speaker 1: guess it's more back in the day when you had
Speaker 1: less choice on things. What do you what is a
Speaker 1: work day feel like when you see the dude and
Speaker 1: he kind of like looks like me, Like you're like
Speaker 1: visibly disgusted. How do you how do you? How do
Speaker 1: you figure that out? Like, Look, I've had day jobs
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, we got to do this thing
Speaker 1: today that sucks, But I can't imagine if it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta fuck this monster lady over here, Like how
Speaker 1: do you process that? Do you go like just the
Speaker 1: job on those days? And I get it, you don't
Speaker 1: do it anymore.
Speaker 2: But well, for me, it's just like I'm so desensitized
Speaker 2: by what attractiveness is at this point too. It's all
Speaker 2: about personality. But like for everyone that I meet, whether
Speaker 2: or not you're like the really fit guy, a really
Speaker 2: hunky guy, really whatever the hell you body type looks like.
Speaker 2: I always joke around with you. I'll be like, hah,
Speaker 2: I'm nipple height, hide those from you, Like I'll come around.
Speaker 2: I'll still flirt with you. I'll still flick your nips.
Speaker 2: I'll joke around like I treat everyone the same way.
Speaker 2: The horn Chrey time and my mindset as soon as
Speaker 2: like A'm on set, I'm not here to fucking date you.
Speaker 2: You know, we're here to create a product. And if
Speaker 2: somebody hired somebody that I'm not attracted to. For like
Speaker 2: my counterpart, I know that there's a specific reason why
Speaker 2: they hired that look like we both are hired for
Speaker 2: our looks and our personality type, so there's a reason
Speaker 2: why we're both there and like put together. So I
Speaker 2: always try to see it as like, you know, we're
Speaker 2: both here to just fuck it out and create a
Speaker 2: firefucking And I don't care if you're hot, if you're not,
Speaker 2: like conventionally or not, Like what even is hot at
Speaker 2: this point? What is normality either as well? So I
Speaker 2: just look at the person and if they're a great
Speaker 2: fucking talent, then I'm like, hell, yeah, we're gonna have wild, stoppy,
Speaker 2: fucking sex today. And if they're not, then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: share right, well you're on my no list now. But
Speaker 2: I don't really look at people for like how they look.
Speaker 2: Like I've been on set where the guys are super
Speaker 2: fucking fit and they're the worst fucks I've ever had
Speaker 2: in my fucking life. And meanwhile, guys over here with
Speaker 2: dad bods are fun and shit, So you know, like
Speaker 2: it just it depends on the person. I don't really
Speaker 2: care about, Like if you're attractive if you're not attractive,
Speaker 2: because for me, it's not a dating pool, it's a
Speaker 2: workspace and it's something to just have fun with.
Speaker 1: I Uh, I go back to when I was younger
Speaker 1: and I started watching porn. Definitely not under eighteen, but
Speaker 1: eighteen plus, sneaking, sneaking to trade a tape to buy
Speaker 1: fucking used porn DVDs. Yeah, definitely. I was eighteen at
Speaker 1: that point when DVDs?
Speaker 2: Did you get? What was your thing?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I'll tell you quick. Earlier this week, I
Speaker 1: interviewed Cindy Crawford, who was not the Cindy Crawford. She
Speaker 1: was porn star Cindy Crawford from the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: What Cindy Crawford what I want to fuck?
Speaker 1: Look at? And she looks great now, but go look
Speaker 1: at early pictures of her. She is something man. First
Speaker 1: porn DVD I ever bought, and it's so funny because
Speaker 1: she is reviving a brand. She's reviving the Anarchy DVD's brand.
Speaker 1: First one I ever bought was an Anarchy DVD and
Speaker 1: it was Okay, it's not exactly the most pleasant title,
Speaker 1: but it was horror gaggers too. Uh, little direct and
Speaker 1: I I went and I looked back at like the
Speaker 1: cast to see so I could reference it to her
Speaker 1: when I interviewed her the other day. It's all of
Speaker 1: my favorite porn stars. So I'm wondering if that first
Speaker 1: one really imprinted on my head where it's like these
Speaker 1: are performers you like now it's literally like the greatest
Speaker 1: hits for me, and it's you know, just like I
Speaker 1: don't know at the point of that. Oh. So I
Speaker 1: was interviewing Cindekruff for the other day and I just
Speaker 1: I think about the early two thousands and the guys nowadays. Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe they more professional, maybe they're I don't know, whatever,
Speaker 1: But the guys from back then, man, some of them
Speaker 1: were rough. Some of them looked like your uncle who
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed at like family functions anymore. Some of them
Speaker 1: look like doc workers. Oh yeah, but they had nine
Speaker 1: inches and they could keep it hard. So I always
Speaker 1: reference that and go, like, man, if I was a chick,
Speaker 1: I would hate that shit back then, I really would
Speaker 1: hate it. But it's a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just numb yourself, like you just become desensitized
Speaker 2: and you just you just outside out of mind. It
Speaker 2: just feels like two pieces of meat slopping together.
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, so this this is not this is
Speaker 1: not me being uh, I'm not trying to be ignorant.
Speaker 1: I am ignorant about this. I guess That's why I'm asking,
Speaker 1: do you and I've I've been with my wife since
Speaker 1: I was nineteen. I'm thirty eight now okayuys?
Speaker 2: I also happy birthday dinner? What oh did you say
Speaker 2: it was your birthday? Or now?
Speaker 1: Twelve thirteen last weekend? Just want to spin on. I
Speaker 1: will relay that we were actually watching some of your stuff,
Speaker 1: not your content, your YouTube channel, because I.
Speaker 2: Keep forgetting I have that. I randomly upload something and
Speaker 2: be like ha ha, and then I'll forget it. I'll
Speaker 2: be like, oh wait, fuck.
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Can you still turn the switch in
Speaker 1: your head to be connected to sex? Now? I know
Speaker 1: that sounds rude. I don't mean it to be, but
Speaker 1: what I just said, like in this aspect, just meet
Speaker 1: slapping together. I go like, you know, I do have
Speaker 1: romantic times with my wife or there are times when
Speaker 1: I'm like I just got to get the poison out
Speaker 1: right now. But I'll make sure you're taking care of too.
Speaker 1: Can you do you turn that switch or do you
Speaker 1: always is it always a little mute?
Speaker 2: So like for me, if I'm shooting a lot, like
Speaker 2: a shit to a NonStop, then I can be a
Speaker 2: little bit hard, Like I'll find that I'm fucking somebody
Speaker 2: off cam like didn't like trying out real sex, and
Speaker 2: I'll realize, oh my god, I'm counting, why am I
Speaker 2: doing this angle? Why am I moving there? And it's
Speaker 2: like automatic. I feel like a robot sometimes, and then
Speaker 2: that's where I take like my breaks. Like sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: take like a whole month off, like every year, I
Speaker 2: tried to like one or two months off completely from
Speaker 2: porn and just fuck off through a little island. Not
Speaker 2: gonna say what island because it's my favorite island to
Speaker 2: fuck off to it. It's a little island off the
Speaker 2: coast of Spain.
Speaker 1: Okay, very ut it there.
Speaker 2: And then Amsterdam is another fun place, but you guys
Speaker 2: will probably never see me around there because I'm always
Speaker 2: super fucking stone somewhere. But yeah, no, I have to
Speaker 2: go and like break down myself like mentally and just
Speaker 2: stop everything from porn, and then my body like resets
Speaker 2: and usually I'm with somebody that i'm really attracted to that,
Speaker 2: like I'm seeing like my friends with Ben's or something,
Speaker 2: and we have like those intimate moments and the connection.
Speaker 2: It kind of like it takes a little while to
Speaker 2: build back up, but once I'm able to get there,
Speaker 2: then it's like awesome and it's beautiful again. But sometimes
Speaker 2: it can be a little bit hard, especially like I said,
Speaker 2: if you're shooting every single day multi Like sometimes I'm
Speaker 2: shooting two three times a day, like two three scenes
Speaker 2: a day, and then by the time I wake up,
Speaker 2: I wake up the first thing I do, I have
Speaker 2: a fucking camera in my face, and I'm filming myself
Speaker 2: masturbating in the morning, filming myself making coffee, filming myself showering,
Speaker 2: froming myself working, Like everything that I do in life
Speaker 2: is all on film, And that's like that desensitizes you completely,
Speaker 2: especially whenever it comes to sex. And so that's why
Speaker 2: I like to take my little break and I'll just
Speaker 2: run away to like a relaxing place with somebody that
Speaker 2: like I trust and I feel connected with, to just
Speaker 2: get back to that emotional setting and then I'm fine
Speaker 2: again for a while. But it's just like if I'm
Speaker 2: shooting months at a time NonStop. Then it's like whoa,
Speaker 2: it's over. Like, like I said, like a fucking robot.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you about a tweet you put it's
Speaker 1: funny out I pull out the one tweet from ten
Speaker 1: years ago that gets you canceled. Now, I'm just kidding,
Speaker 1: But can I ask you about a tweet you posted
Speaker 1: in October? Okay? If you don't, I'm not gonna harp
Speaker 1: on this whatsoever. It's just a question, and it kind
Speaker 1: of relates to how we were talking about. There nothing
Speaker 1: more in the world that I absolutely hate is when
Speaker 1: I get booked for a lesbian scene and they throw
Speaker 1: a man in last minute, like bruh. That's the shit
Speaker 1: that pisses me off so much. I'm a lesbian that
Speaker 1: never gets lesbian work and that breaks my pussy's heart
Speaker 1: for real, for real, seriously, I hope your pussy's heart
Speaker 1: is working well today. Flow and good. There was a
Speaker 1: thing in there that I noticed. Uh, it's funny. I'm
Speaker 1: calling you out like Ellen in the nineties, or are
Speaker 1: you a lesbian?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I'm gaying really like all my fans say,
Speaker 2: only I'm good, like I've never hit in it at all. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I think that's what makes me so fucking good
Speaker 2: at my job is because for me, it's like I
Speaker 2: don't feel that romantic connection connection with my male talents.
Speaker 2: I don't feel storry eyed whenever I'm with like a
Speaker 2: big male talent name or a really handsome guy, like
Speaker 2: I'm able to remember my lines, remember my angles, and
Speaker 2: be a super fucking mega slut with it because for me,
Speaker 2: like I don't even though I'm not attracted to them,
Speaker 2: Like I don't find penises icky at all, Like I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it doesn't it's nothing special like that,
Speaker 2: Like it's like fine, like if a mom's OEt with
Speaker 2: a girl that I'm like, oh, like I kind of
Speaker 2: get distracted and the director's like for focus, focus.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, there's there's two aspects to that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about. It's like one I again, I can't do
Speaker 1: what you do. I don't know. You really do treat it,
Speaker 1: and that's great that you treat it professionally, but it
Speaker 1: really is like a business that you put your whole
Speaker 1: heart into. I have never had a job I have
Speaker 1: put my whole hardened. Like all due respect every I
Speaker 1: wouldn't suck a dick for money, because that's just not
Speaker 1: who I am. That's not my preference. So the fact
Speaker 1: that you can do this there is something kind of
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a creep as I
Speaker 1: am going to, but I like videos sometimes where it's
Speaker 1: like a girl's put in a position where I don't know, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need some cash right now, I can suck this
Speaker 1: bar owner's dick or whatever, and I don't necessarily want
Speaker 1: to do it, but I am making this choice myself.
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, she's being forced into it
Speaker 1: or like desperate for it. She's like, mah, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this work right now. Wah. You
Speaker 1: know there's something to me on a weird, like visceral
Speaker 1: level where I'm like, it's kind of hot that she
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily love this, but she wants to put in
Speaker 1: the work to make it look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I because I also have that mindset of
Speaker 2: a director, right So whatever I do on camera is
Speaker 2: exactly what I would want my talent to fucking do,
Speaker 2: whether or not they're attracted to the person. I want
Speaker 2: them to be as real, as raw, as genuine as
Speaker 2: fucking impossible in that moment and That's all that I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about whenever I'm in that moment is what am
Speaker 2: I going to look like on camera? For my fans?
Speaker 2: What do I want to be? And like I know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day of doing boy girl
Speaker 2: scenes is what blows you up more is what fans
Speaker 2: like to see. And a lot of my fans think
Speaker 2: it's so fucking hot that no man can really ever
Speaker 2: have me. And I's let all these men out and
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I buy him a
Speaker 2: beer after the sut.
Speaker 1: You know, there is something as you say it, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is something hot about that. It's like, no, you'll
Speaker 1: never have her, don't worry.
Speaker 2: Maybe slut them the fuck out.
Speaker 1: That's great. We have. We have an odd connection. And
Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean in a way that
Speaker 1: like if you said I like Hamburger's and I went,
Speaker 1: I've been to McDonald's one time. Like it's that luci
Speaker 1: of a connection. I was watching a video, like you said,
Speaker 1: on your YouTube channel, and you were talking, you dance,
Speaker 1: you were dancing one time. I guess something I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm referencing one of your YouTube videos that you didn't
Speaker 1: even remember you had anymore. You're dancing at the Pulse nightclub.
Speaker 1: One time I used to this is very sad. This
Speaker 1: is not going to take it in a sexy direction.
Speaker 1: I used to work with the ex wife of the
Speaker 1: guy the scumbag shooter that shot that up. Really Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she left one day. I'm in Jersey. She
Speaker 1: one day she just was gone. Strah is her name.
Speaker 1: I won't be the last name or anything, but she's left,
Speaker 1: and we're like, she got married, she moved down to Florida. Ah,
Speaker 1: you know, they got divorced. She met the other guy,
Speaker 1: I met another woman or something and whatever. I went
Speaker 1: on her Facebook. There's no question with this. I just
Speaker 1: I've never been able to tell the story. I went
Speaker 1: on her Facebook like the next day. There's a picture
Speaker 1: of like her pet or something like that, and it
Speaker 1: had eleven hundred comments underneath it. Hi, this is Kelly
Speaker 1: with WABC Denver. I was just wondering if we could
Speaker 1: ask you questions. HI, this is Jeff with you know
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and no. I just heard
Speaker 1: that and that was like, literally, I've done. I did
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty comedy episodes. I never had a
Speaker 1: chance to tell that story and one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: interviews and never had the time to bring it up.
Speaker 1: So when I heard that, I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: got to point that out. There's literally nothing else to
Speaker 1: that story other than that right there.
Speaker 2: That's crazy though, that you like knew that's crazy. That
Speaker 2: doesn't it? Small world? I was at Paul's when it
Speaker 2: fucking happened. That was scary, it isn't it? Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was scary if Paul. I used to go to Paul's
Speaker 2: all the time. Oh my, Like that was one of
Speaker 2: my Paul's night club Southern Nights that used to be
Speaker 2: a revolution not at Southern and Parliament House those are
Speaker 2: my three go to places, and Savoy once in a while,
Speaker 2: but usually those. And like I remember, I was there
Speaker 2: and my friend they wanted to have a cigarette. I'd like,
Speaker 2: I don't smoke cigarettes at all. I only smoke up.
Speaker 2: I don't know the right. Fine, you're good, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, But I don't smoke cigarettes. And
Speaker 2: my friend was like really wanting to go, and I
Speaker 2: didn't want to have them go outside alone. So I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'll just fuck it. I'll
Speaker 2: come with you and I went outside with them, and
Speaker 2: the next thing I know, like I hear do dude,
Speaker 2: and it's like going to the beat at the music,
Speaker 2: but I could tell I shoot guns. I was like,
Speaker 2: something isn't right. And I'm like, I'm pretty lit at
Speaker 2: that moment, but you can kind of like your instincts
Speaker 2: kind of like wake you up a little bit. And
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, look over and there's people running,
Speaker 2: the blood being sprayed everywhere against the windows, and I
Speaker 2: remember like this one guy picks me up and like
Speaker 2: throws me over the side of like the fence that
Speaker 2: was in the back, and that was just so traumatizing
Speaker 2: just seeing like I looked over and literally like everyone's running,
Speaker 2: screaming and the like blood all over. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? That was the scariest and my born
Speaker 2: toilet is that. And it took the cops so fucking
Speaker 2: long ago in there, and they were just like I
Speaker 2: remember standing out there like across the street just watch them,
Speaker 2: and the cops like there were so many of them
Speaker 2: swat everyone and not a single person went in there
Speaker 2: while this guy's like going in on everyone and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you guys are literally covered head to toe and armor
Speaker 2: like what the you know what I mean? Like what
Speaker 2: the pussy? Like, what the fuck we need to people pussy?
Speaker 2: But like do you know what I mean? Like even
Speaker 2: like in the shootings that's been happening recently too, at
Speaker 2: the schools and everything, like why the fuck? Like just
Speaker 2: run in there, like do your job.
Speaker 1: The Uvaldi one stands out. It's funny. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: talk about politics, I swear anyway, this school shooting's the
Speaker 1: hottest girl I've ever met, and let's discuss school shootings.
Speaker 1: But you remember the cops were like, uh, we really
Speaker 1: need like hardcore drones, some of those Elon like guys,
Speaker 1: but stack them up with guns, all right, send them
Speaker 1: in and leave the cops outside with the remote controls.
Speaker 2: Those robot dogs I saw some of those online. Are
Speaker 2: those real? The little robots?
Speaker 1: Some of them are not with like weapons, that's probably AI,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool if they had some of those.
Speaker 2: There were robot dog goes and there were some fucking
Speaker 2: lasers on its.
Speaker 1: Head Like I was thinking big metal teeth start ripped
Speaker 1: my arm off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a flamethrower on the inside.
Speaker 1: So uh, back to more sexy stuff. I assume how
Speaker 1: do you at four feet eight work with some of
Speaker 1: the gentlemen you work with, are you? Are you like
Speaker 1: telling them like you can get the head in that's it.
Speaker 1: And I'm specifically thinking of Brickzilla. You worked with somebody recently.
Speaker 1: I think it came out on my birth No, it
Speaker 1: came out today, right, Yeah, that was on my birthday.
Speaker 1: I was eleven, twenty seven. Yeah, that is as big
Speaker 1: as your.
Speaker 2: Jordan. I've I've shot with all of them. They're all
Speaker 2: great guys, mind you. I love every single one of them.
Speaker 2: I don't know my bussy's a magic hat trick. I
Speaker 2: thought the first let me tell you this, the first
Speaker 2: time that I ever shot with Dread, he was so
Speaker 2: worried about my tiny body. He was like, no, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go super easy. And I literally just spit on it,
Speaker 2: and like, I have full control over my vagina because
Speaker 2: every time that I do my workouts, like with these
Speaker 2: metal balls in and I hold them in my vagina,
Speaker 2: so like I work on my vaginal muscles and I
Speaker 2: just loosened them up like a motherfucker and I just
Speaker 2: sat on it and it made his whole dick disappear,
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's a sizemo. I don't know
Speaker 2: where the fucking goes, Like, I don't know where the
Speaker 2: hell these penises go. Like even with Antone Harden, he
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're gonna go gentle, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: light strokes, and of course my crazy ass fucks back
Speaker 2: and then next thing you know, I'm taking almost all
Speaker 2: of it. There's just like this much of it left.
Speaker 2: But I was like, that's like from here to hear,
Speaker 2: like I don't In the whenever I shot with Brizilla,
Speaker 2: the only reason I couldn't take all thousand percent of
Speaker 2: his dick was because it's curve like a fucking banana.
Speaker 2: So the whole time that was fucking him almost curve
Speaker 2: like this too, and I just felt my guts moving
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to get that angle to fit every
Speaker 2: one of it in. Almost got it all into, but
Speaker 2: the banana curve was what was hitting my fucking lungs,
Speaker 2: not damn Like whenever I say I can feel it
Speaker 2: my fucking throat, I really mean I can feel it
Speaker 2: in my throuble. I'm my god, I don't know where
Speaker 2: these things go, and the crazy I don't practice for
Speaker 2: this shit either. My personal life I wear a strap
Speaker 2: on like I fuck every time, like I fuck all
Speaker 2: the arm so like the only time I ever taken
Speaker 2: anything is on camera with like BBC sides and shit
Speaker 2: are like on camera for like taking dick, and it's
Speaker 2: always so funny every single time. These guys are always
Speaker 2: like we're gonna go gent through, We're gonna slide in,
Speaker 2: and I'm always like, no, just fucking stick it in me.
Speaker 2: I can relax my shit, like, let's control this. And
Speaker 2: I can even squeeze it too, so you can't run
Speaker 2: for me. So any guy gris to pull the fuck
Speaker 2: out and like, nope, we're not done with this, fucking
Speaker 2: shots staying here.
Speaker 1: My uh my wife one time I was laying on
Speaker 1: my stomach and she just climbed on my back and
Speaker 1: started doing thrusting. You know. She did it for like
Speaker 1: a minute and she goes, oh my god, my hips,
Speaker 1: how do you guys do this? And it's funny that
Speaker 1: you said, like I'm just thrust and I'm pulling. You
Speaker 1: gotta work those muscles, right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: All of my like most of my only fan scene.
Speaker 2: I love doing strap on born. I love it. I
Speaker 2: love fucking people like it's my favorite thing, and the
Speaker 2: fucking world is the fuck people. Like even whenever I'm
Speaker 2: on top of guys, like whenever I fuck guys, I
Speaker 2: like to be the one doing the fucking and all
Speaker 2: the heavy lifting and like working and moving just like
Speaker 2: the motion and everything. It feels so fucking good. It
Speaker 2: is exhausting. But then again, I work out every single day,
Speaker 2: specific muscle groups so I don't bulk out and look
Speaker 2: like a scary little I did that one time where
Speaker 2: I got super fit and everyone was like, you're looking
Speaker 2: like a mini hulk. So that I'm trying to find
Speaker 2: like that even in middle where I have that cute
Speaker 2: petigue upper and then my lower is like strong as hells.
Speaker 2: I can ride dick or give dick all day.
Speaker 1: That's that's that speaks to even more dedication to your craft.
Speaker 1: Where you're going. I work specific muscles for this da
Speaker 1: da da I I worked with Like when I used
Speaker 1: to work retail, I worked with just the hottest girl right,
Speaker 1: I won't even give her name, but Polish girl, beauty,
Speaker 1: full thin, in shape, and she would just crush two
Speaker 1: double cheeseburgers every day, never work out and just always
Speaker 1: stay thin and like if I smell a double cheeseburger.
Speaker 1: I gained ten pounds.
Speaker 2: So, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's nice to hear your working it though, and you're
Speaker 1: keeping it going and stuff like that. You did, okay,
Speaker 1: no going on the back of that because of what
Speaker 1: we said. I read somewhere you were offered an exorbitant
Speaker 1: amount of money for a specific type of scene. Now
Speaker 1: that was a couple of years ago. Maybe I think
Speaker 1: that interview was do you still not do that? I'm
Speaker 1: not hiding what it is. I was gonna reveal it
Speaker 1: at again. So how much were you offered to do
Speaker 1: an anal scene? And you declined, I've.
Speaker 2: Been offered at this point up to fifty to do
Speaker 2: an anal scene. I just for me my brand, like
Speaker 2: who I am, Like I just can't, like even with
Speaker 2: my friends and everything, like nobody can visualize me ever
Speaker 2: do it. Like it's just not something that would be
Speaker 2: on brand for me, first of all, and then second
Speaker 2: of all, like it's just something like I just I've
Speaker 2: tried it once, because like, don't knock anything intil you
Speaker 2: try it, And I just like I never felt like
Speaker 2: more of a bitch in my fucking life, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, this is not me. At all, Like
Speaker 2: this is not like I'm okay getting fucked doggyesyw. But
Speaker 2: was something about that that I was just like, huh,
Speaker 2: like I just did not like to the core just
Speaker 2: didn't speak to me. And it didn't So I like,
Speaker 2: I never do anything on camera that I just I
Speaker 2: wouldn't feel would be genuine to who frez, which is
Speaker 2: like a crazy sex maniac, but like in that position,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm not a submissive woman by any means,
Speaker 2: and that's like the ultimate submission right there, you know,
Speaker 2: giving your ass up. And for me, that's just like
Speaker 2: I feel like if I ever did that, like that
Speaker 2: would just put a weird little thing on my brand,
Speaker 2: Like it just wouldn't feel right. So all right, yeah
Speaker 2: I still haven't done it.
Speaker 1: I don't care to, Okay, fair enough, well I would
Speaker 1: what if it was a super dominant woman like one
Speaker 1: that you'd even have to admit, like the Hulk's got
Speaker 1: to bow down the fanos in this a little bit
Speaker 1: where she was like I want to strap it on,
Speaker 1: I want to do would you it's just not you
Speaker 1: at all? Or would you ever maybe considering okay, if.
Speaker 2: It was something insane amount like a million dollars or
Speaker 2: something wild that would be worth like, you know, having
Speaker 2: a little niche on my name for because at that
Speaker 2: point it would be like kind of taking away the
Speaker 2: dommy because that's like very submissive to do. And I
Speaker 2: don't even see myself, like I just I don't ever
Speaker 2: see it. Like Evan, I love giving an all, I
Speaker 2: love fucking people in yuse, but for me, just it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right. So I'm like, huh, it's way too
Speaker 2: submissive of a move for me. Like I'm used to
Speaker 2: playing the cutesy little daughter and everything, but I always
Speaker 2: end up taking over those scenes anyway and turning. They're
Speaker 2: like a little sex demon. But like even in those points,
Speaker 2: like I can't fully ever be submissive and that's like
Speaker 2: too much. That's like straight on submission.
Speaker 1: Viewers and listeners. I am a straight man. And if
Speaker 1: you offer me a million dollars, you can fuck any
Speaker 1: hole you want. I'm just letting you know. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: give you a little sound if we have to for
Speaker 1: a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh do you like sounding?
Speaker 1: No? Who like sounding except people who are hurt as children?
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Do you do you like doing that?
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that to.
Speaker 2: A guy doing it on people. I had this one
Speaker 2: guy who told me it was a party trick that
Speaker 2: he had or I would drop the rod into his
Speaker 2: dick and it would drop all the way in, and
Speaker 2: then he would be able to push it right back
Speaker 2: up and be like whoop. He'd be able to like
Speaker 2: and I was like, that is crazy. You're literally jerking
Speaker 2: off the inside of your dick with this rod right
Speaker 2: now without what you've been touching it. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is insane.
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 2: That is? Like?
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you find that out. That's
Speaker 1: like someone could tell you putting an M eighty between
Speaker 1: your toes feels really good, But are you ever gonna
Speaker 1: try that? No? Because I might blow my fucking toes off. Okay,
Speaker 1: Someone's like, hey, putting this metal rod or glass rod
Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Glass ones are scary. Oh fuck terrifying.
Speaker 1: Give me a.
Speaker 2: Slacks a glass story on my personal life. That shit
Speaker 2: scari as shit.
Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to get one from my wife
Speaker 1: because they're just they're solid, they're cool looking. It creates
Speaker 1: a nice visit and she's terrified. She's like no, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you think I'm gonna do stomp on you
Speaker 1: while it's in you, like, I'm not gonna break all.
Speaker 2: The scariest ship her put one on you and then
Speaker 2: see how you think. No, no, no, no, scary, no horrible.
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't. The liability behind that sounds
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Like what if he did something wrong
Speaker 1: and you give him that little tap you always talk
Speaker 1: about and there's a glass one in there. H Oh,
Speaker 1: someone's in the er.
Speaker 2: Yep, you're fulkedsign a waiver.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Brielle, let me ask you, by the way, folks,
Speaker 1: if you are trying to find her, you know exactly
Speaker 1: where to find her at Breya Underscore Von Underscore Doom.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check the links in the episode description
Speaker 1: Bare Minimum. You don't have any money right now. It's
Speaker 1: not payday. Follow these folks on social media, all right?
Speaker 1: The numbers up, numbers look good, They get more work.
Speaker 1: If it is payday and your kid comes to you
Speaker 1: and she's like, I ney embraces, daddy, go, Daddy, already
Speaker 1: spent your money by heading over exactly where you think
Speaker 1: at Freya Underscore Von Underscore Doom.
Speaker 2: Spend this money on fucking whores. That's what I spent
Speaker 2: them on my Breya.
Speaker 1: I do a thing called stat check on here, and
Speaker 1: this is just so weak. Can set your metrics based
Speaker 1: on right now the recording. So a year from now,
Speaker 1: when you come back and you're drowning in AVI and
Speaker 1: awards and you know all this stuff, we can go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at Freya when she was back
Speaker 1: in the day. We use the Internet Adult Film Database
Speaker 1: to track it. Now, what that doesn't include is all
Speaker 1: this shit you shot over here on this site and
Speaker 1: that one and whatever, and some of the ones you
Speaker 1: did here, So it's not accurate. I've pointed this out before,
Speaker 1: and I've had women go, no, that's wrong. I had
Speaker 1: one girl pull up a spreadsheet and fucking start checking me,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So according to ia f D, the amount of scenes
Speaker 1: you've done is one hundred and thirty. Male performers you've
Speaker 1: worked with, forty six female performers you've worked with. No,
Speaker 1: I apologize, male performers you work with, forty six female
Speaker 1: performers thirty six. I'm dyslexic. It's all fucked up. AVN nominations.
Speaker 1: I only have one for you and that's this year, correct.
Speaker 2: I have a couple. Couple and also forty. I've been
Speaker 2: in that ten years. I've shot so much and sometimes
Speaker 2: two times it is so I'm like, those numbers are off.
Speaker 2: I don't know the specifics, but I feel like those
Speaker 2: numbers are off.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what everyone always says when I
Speaker 1: say the numbers, those numbers are wrong. I know it's
Speaker 1: not accurate. It's okay, we'll come back a year from
Speaker 1: now and you'll be at three hundred scenes and this.
Speaker 2: Act they only give me one more sat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can make it now. You have one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one scenes amount of people.
Speaker 2: The only took half a dick and he's so when
Speaker 2: we drive has shot it. There we go congratulations. Right.
Speaker 1: So you talked about your brand before and how you
Speaker 1: know you were your height or your size. You're adorable
Speaker 1: and again this is not anti porn whatsoever. Is there
Speaker 1: anything you find morally objectionable that is within the realm
Speaker 1: of I used to do a thing called sack okay.
Speaker 1: I would interview girls early on and sack stood for
Speaker 1: shit animals. Kids, those are out okay, Like I would say,
Speaker 1: what is something you have no interest? On niche or
Speaker 1: whatever you have no interest in pursuing. And they would say, well,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't fuck a dog, and I'd be like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I wouldn't talk to you if
Speaker 1: you were. So let's take the horrendous things out.
Speaker 2: Find out the picture.
Speaker 1: Think yes, is there anything you find like morally you
Speaker 1: don't love this thing in porn. I only say that
Speaker 1: because I've spoken to women who shoot mainstream big stuff
Speaker 1: and go like the stepsister, the step mom doesn't work
Speaker 1: for me. I'm too close to my family. I'm to this,
Speaker 1: I'm to that. Is there anything where you're like, eh,
Speaker 1: that kind of I'm not interested in that playing that role,
Speaker 1: pursuing that role.
Speaker 2: I get that. One thing I want to say first
Speaker 2: and foremost, I feel like the age of porn should
Speaker 2: be raised to twenty one.
Speaker 1: Like wait, that's my last question. Keep going, okay, go on.
Speaker 2: So for me at this point because like, I'm older now,
Speaker 2: like I'm thirty three, and it's pretty funny playing like
Speaker 2: the daughter the stepsister. Most of the time. The moms
Speaker 2: are like fucking twenty five twenty six.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the milk is like a tag
Speaker 1: they throw on you real quick and porn.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's like as soon as you start looking
Speaker 2: like a mouth, that's the thing. And for me, like
Speaker 2: locally i'm tiny as well. I take I take extremely
Speaker 2: good care of my skin, like I've been insane skincare
Speaker 2: routine and I eat super healthy like and I have
Speaker 2: great genetics, think mom elms. So I'm probably gonna be
Speaker 2: like in this bubble for like I've been in it
Speaker 2: for like my whole life and I'm still gonna be
Speaker 2: in it for a while. But for me, it's like
Speaker 2: whatever that they want me to play, like the daughter
Speaker 2: who's still like like I'm on the ground doing clooring books.
Speaker 2: I'm playing with the dolls like I'm obviously looking like
Speaker 2: because like I'm the size I'm an eight to ten
Speaker 2: year old, and I know that because all my clothes.
Speaker 2: I go out shopping and I go in a kids section,
Speaker 2: like that's that's how I know how tall and like
Speaker 2: i'm literally besides when my two ten year old kidd
Speaker 2: and so like, for me, it's uncomfortable whenever I show
Speaker 2: up on set and they want me to like do
Speaker 2: like kitty things, like they want me to draw, they
Speaker 2: want me to color, they want me to do like
Speaker 2: the like play up that act more like you're not
Speaker 2: in a high school, but you're in high school. It's
Speaker 2: like for me, it's very grimmy. It's very like we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be, you know, building that up too much. If
Speaker 2: we can do like a young college girl, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like a young, naive, cute little college girl,
Speaker 2: we can do somebody who's legal, like you know, somebody
Speaker 2: who's you know, not fucking reading a child reading book
Speaker 2: ers some shit while your daddy's fucking you like good
Speaker 2: Night Moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't mind, Like I like playing the daughters.
Speaker 2: I like playing the sisters, don't get me wrong, But
Speaker 2: for me, it's like whenever they do the age play
Speaker 2: too much, then I'm like oof, Like that's like I
Speaker 2: don't I don't mind being the legal the legal age daughter,
Speaker 2: legal aide sister.
Speaker 1: Do you get horrendous? Not all of them, obviously, But
Speaker 1: I'll say this. My my former co host on the show,
Speaker 1: his wife is an OnlyFans model, and she the first
Speaker 1: custom video request she got, okay, it was tell me
Speaker 1: you're fourteen years old, blah blah blah, and it was like, okay, no,
Speaker 1: thank you declined, whatever it is, send it back. Do
Speaker 1: you get horrendous custom video requests that you have to
Speaker 1: go seek help delete?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I get a shit ton like a lot. It's
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable. I have reported some people before if like,
Speaker 2: if somebody's writing to me and it feels all too real,
Speaker 2: and I'll like write them back and like seem interested
Speaker 2: just so I can get like some more honesty from them,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, okay, like you're actually out here
Speaker 2: hurting your child, you know, Because I do have like unfortunately,
Speaker 2: some people do feel like safe. I like for people
Speaker 2: feel safe talking to me, of course, but like don't
Speaker 2: feel safe telling me like you're doing something very illegal,
Speaker 2: because I will tell on you, Like I don't fuck
Speaker 2: around with that shit, you know. So I do get
Speaker 2: a lot of fans that write me about that. I
Speaker 2: had one fan in particular, I'm not gonna say his
Speaker 2: name because he's really famous. Yeah. Uh, he's in government.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it at that. For him, he wanted
Speaker 2: me to pretend like I was his daughter and masturbate
Speaker 2: by the pool and then drowned in the pool because
Speaker 2: I look like his daughter. And I was like, this
Speaker 2: is fucking ridiculous, like this is actually fucking insane, like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like what the hell? And
Speaker 2: I get a lot of things like that too, like
Speaker 2: so many, And that's why I like to take my
Speaker 2: mental breaks because whenever it comes to sex, like I
Speaker 2: get so desensitized by by being on set all day
Speaker 2: or writing about it all day, because I write scripts
Speaker 2: all day. If I'm not on camera or like in
Speaker 2: front of her behind the camera, I'm like working on
Speaker 2: a script or something. So desensitizes me. But it's also
Speaker 2: very exhausting when you're continuously reading messages are so fucked
Speaker 2: up that it's just like wow, like I don't even
Speaker 2: want to fuck right now, Like I don't want to
Speaker 2: feel anything right now. So that's why I fuck off
Speaker 2: to like my little islands, my little adventures, my little
Speaker 2: vacations and stuff, just like reset everything, because some messages
Speaker 2: are really like fucked because I literally, like I said,
Speaker 2: like I'm the size of a kid, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people like they like to play off with that,
Speaker 2: and I don't play off of that at all. So
Speaker 2: it is very exhausting.
Speaker 1: Two more questions for you here. I think I actually
Speaker 1: know this should be the end. One but I like
Speaker 1: to end it with the age thing, like we've discussed before.
Speaker 1: But what is the end goal with this? Do you
Speaker 1: want to be making? I interviewed, and I keep referencing
Speaker 1: this because I find her fascinating. It's interesting. Well, Dede
Speaker 1: White formally Saeka Black, she is seventy one, seventy two
Speaker 1: years old and still does as she describes it BBC gangbangs,
Speaker 1: nothing but respect, Like I won't make it to seventy
Speaker 1: one years old and she's still taking giant dick out there.
Speaker 1: Good for her, Congratulations, that's criazy. You do you have
Speaker 1: a dollar amount you want to save and then retire
Speaker 1: and maybe work on your own stuff like other stuff?
Speaker 1: Do you want to be shooting this till you're seventy
Speaker 1: one seventy two just fucking letting it all hang out?
Speaker 1: Is there an endgame here at all? Or is it
Speaker 1: live day by day?
Speaker 2: So for me, like whenever it comes to money, I've
Speaker 2: made a shit ton of my money in my life
Speaker 2: before I did poorn, So I always like all the
Speaker 2: checks that I make from porn already goes in a
Speaker 2: savings account, Like I don't really like I've always been
Speaker 2: really good with managing my shit, and so for me,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter about the dollar signs at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, because like I can quit today
Speaker 2: and be okay for the rest of my life kind
Speaker 2: of situation. But I love the artistry circling back around
Speaker 2: to that, and I can like I can't see myself
Speaker 2: doing anything else that brings me as much shore as this.
Speaker 2: So like even whenever I do take my breaks, like
Speaker 2: I get really bored. That's why I can't be on
Speaker 2: a break for too long, because I'm just like I
Speaker 2: want to create some hot smut. I wake up in
Speaker 2: the morning and I just think of these crazy stories
Speaker 2: and I have to write them down, Like I get
Speaker 2: so excited to write scripts, Like it makes me so
Speaker 2: fucking happy to write smut and to produce smut, and
Speaker 2: like anytime that I get a break from it, I'm
Speaker 2: just bored and I just think of all smuts. Like
Speaker 2: my whole life is revolt. Like people always ask me,
Speaker 2: do you have a life, and I'm like, yeah, it's poor,
Speaker 2: and like literally from the time I wake up this
Speaker 2: time I go to sleep, like i feel like I'm
Speaker 2: doing what I love. So for me, like I don't
Speaker 2: see myself ever really quitting forn Like I always joke
Speaker 2: like I'm either gonna be a gummy ass bitch at
Speaker 2: the end of the day i'm born, or I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have I really want to have my own production company.
Speaker 2: I've been working on that a lot. Well, I get
Speaker 2: to shoot and produce all of my porn for a
Speaker 2: huge site, so like I've been building up a lot
Speaker 2: of videos for that. I want to have at least
Speaker 2: fifty videos already like a backlogged to release at once
Speaker 2: for the website. It's gonna be Von Doom's playground and
Speaker 2: and for that, like I hope that comes out within
Speaker 2: the next five years, Like I have goals for every year,
Speaker 2: so like the next five years, I want to have
Speaker 2: my own production company already hit the ground, ready to
Speaker 2: go going with that if it doesn't happen soon, but
Speaker 2: that's the goal line for that. In the next ten years.
Speaker 2: I want to have my own production company at like
Speaker 2: the higher levels and not be like the basic like
Speaker 2: I want to be literally like a known name. And
Speaker 2: then when it comes I feel like that's going to
Speaker 2: happen faster than usual, just because all my friends are
Speaker 2: all big names and they're all going to work for me,
Speaker 2: So it's it's not going to be realistically, it's going
Speaker 2: to be less than five years at that point. And
Speaker 2: then I do want to have an agency one day
Speaker 2: down the line, because I am like, like I said,
Speaker 2: I've been in it for so long. I've seen the
Speaker 2: worst and I've seen the best, like and at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like I'm tired of models being
Speaker 2: taken advantage of. And that's why I've been self booking.
Speaker 2: Like literally my whole career has been self booking, super
Speaker 2: successful at and that's why I know everyone in the
Speaker 2: industry as well and have such a great reputation. And
Speaker 2: like literally I hope out so many of my friends
Speaker 2: already that they asked me, Hey, I want to work
Speaker 2: with this company. I just text the fucking director and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we got it. Like I already am
Speaker 2: pretty much managing a lot of people without taking anything,
Speaker 2: and I like, I would like to have my own agency,
Speaker 2: like in ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, have my
Speaker 2: own agency and only have like thirty girls on my
Speaker 2: roster and nothing crazy, and just I wouldn't take a
Speaker 2: commission from them ever, because you work hard for your money,
Speaker 2: Why would I double dip. That's what agients do. They
Speaker 2: double dip. They get money from the models and moneys
Speaker 2: from the company. I would only get my fee from
Speaker 2: the company for booking my model, and that's it. You know,
Speaker 2: why would I need anything else? I mean, let these
Speaker 2: girls work hard for your money. Tax is already going
Speaker 2: to be taken out, Like why would I do more?
Speaker 2: It's I'm not putting my body through that. Why should
Speaker 2: I take a cut of that? So in the next
Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen, maybe twenty years, have my own
Speaker 2: agency or take over an agency that's already established to
Speaker 2: if somebody like entrust me with that and once and
Speaker 2: sees like value in me continuing to grow it, but
Speaker 2: creating more of a safe space. That was one of
Speaker 2: the main reasons why I returned to the industry. I
Speaker 2: took a two year break and then I returned to
Speaker 2: the industry just because I was so sick and tired
Speaker 2: of dealing like listening to horror stories of bad people,
Speaker 2: and whenever I first started, I was I had some
Speaker 2: horror stories myself, and I came back really empowered and
Speaker 2: really strong and with the mindset of I want to
Speaker 2: blow up and become a big name so I can
Speaker 2: get all these bad people out and create a safe
Speaker 2: space for everyone. So I would like, like ten, fifteen,
Speaker 2: twenty years from now, hopefully sooner, to have my own
Speaker 2: agency to create a safe space and start getting bad
Speaker 2: seats out and show people, hey, porn can be fun,
Speaker 2: Porn is artistic. It's not something that people should be
Speaker 2: scared to show up on set for, like you should
Speaker 2: know every single detail. A lot these agencies are just
Speaker 2: fucking up and fucking around, and it's it's really pissing
Speaker 2: me awful lot, like the lack of maturity and respect
Speaker 2: for porn as an industry. So that's my goals. Within
Speaker 2: the five years, have my own production on the floor,
Speaker 2: then ten to twenty years, have my own agency here
Speaker 2: to take one.
Speaker 1: Over last question than one super quick social media thing.
Speaker 1: But let me just ask you this. You said earlier
Speaker 1: girls shouldn't get into it at twenty one. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go, I'm agreeing with you one hundred percent, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to devil's advocate just a little bit because
Speaker 1: I've asked every other performer in you know, the last
Speaker 1: twenty interviews, I've done same question, and some girls who
Speaker 1: got in at eighteen and made money and this and
Speaker 1: that go twenty one. Yeah, there's an argument the other way, right,
Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl gets kicked out of her house,
Speaker 1: lives on the street for a couple of years, turns eighteen,
Speaker 1: sex works an opportunity for her to, you know, create
Speaker 1: a life for herself. What is your thought behind That's
Speaker 1: the argument from the other side that I've heard what's
Speaker 1: your idea behind that? And I think there's a kind
Speaker 1: of a nice consensus that I've come to with other performers,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if I can get you there, So
Speaker 1: what's your thought process on that?
Speaker 2: So I firmly feel like twenty one because I have
Speaker 2: been on set before with a girl literally is still
Speaker 2: in high school about to graduate in high school, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why the fuck is sheet like this? This
Speaker 2: feels are wordy, you know what I mean? Like it's
Speaker 2: not okay, Like you can't fully consent if like you're
Speaker 2: that young, like you're literally still in school, Like what
Speaker 2: the fuck? And that's one thing that really bothers me
Speaker 2: because I talk to these girls and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: why did you do? In half the time? They are
Speaker 2: not sure what the next step is they're really scared.
Speaker 2: They think, okay, poor and as the way to go.
Speaker 2: And I always tell them, okay, so what do you
Speaker 2: want to do in life? Like what most excites you?
Speaker 2: And then I tell them, why don't you start volunteering,
Speaker 2: started an internship, start like I try to like lead
Speaker 2: people away from it, because I always tell people, as
Speaker 2: soon as you do porn, there's no going back, Like
Speaker 2: you can't delete the fucking like, there's no like, it's
Speaker 2: going to be out there for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: And if you're not fully aware of yourself and like
Speaker 2: understanding of this industry as a whole, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: get fucked over, like ten times over. And I've been there,
Speaker 2: like I was a wide eyed girl, Like we've all
Speaker 2: been through the trials and tribulations unfortunately, but I would
Speaker 2: never want anyone to go through a quarter of what
Speaker 2: I've been through when I first started. And so I
Speaker 2: always try to warn people like, listen, try to find
Speaker 2: another way that excites you. There's always another outlet. Just
Speaker 2: because it seems very pigeonholed right now that sex might
Speaker 2: be answered to the quick money, it's not going to
Speaker 2: be the best route for you and there's a thousand
Speaker 2: other things you can do, Like you can go to
Speaker 2: your local perks and recruit recreation services and ask them, hey,
Speaker 2: like can I do volunteer work? I would like to
Speaker 2: work here and like start working government jobs, or like
Speaker 2: you can literally go and work out like McDonald's or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like there's so many other outlets here, and you shouldn't
Speaker 2: ever be embarrassed about just wanting to be successful and
Speaker 2: as general, like as a whole, like it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what your job title is, as long as you're making
Speaker 2: money and there's always room for growth. It's all about perspective.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day. You can succeed with nothing,
Speaker 2: or you can fail miserably diving into an industry that
Speaker 2: you are not aware of, and that's just going to
Speaker 2: break you down and make you worse. I've seen so
Speaker 2: many girls show up here in the industry that are
Speaker 2: so young, that get the money super fast, that are
Speaker 2: doing all these big scenes super fast. They're wearing down
Speaker 2: and then they have nothing left to fucking off of
Speaker 2: the industry and their agents are tired at them. They've
Speaker 2: hung up the fucking coattails because they've already been shot
Speaker 2: out for this company, shot out for this company, shot
Speaker 2: out for this company. Now what the fuck else are
Speaker 2: they going to do? And they're not able to afford
Speaker 2: the next like to continue on or to wait a
Speaker 2: few months, you know, like there's so many other routes
Speaker 2: to go about it, and porn isn't always the fucking answer.
Speaker 2: Do what you love at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: and really just think before you actually do anything. It's
Speaker 2: all about perspective yet again, like if you're broken, you're
Speaker 2: young in the streets, like, there's so many the other
Speaker 2: outlets you can do, Like, there's so many and if
Speaker 2: you do want to be important interests that I would
Speaker 2: suggest sart off important being a PA, you know, figure
Speaker 2: out like hey, like ask your one of your model friends,
Speaker 2: like I'm kind of curious about it, but let me
Speaker 2: work on a production side of the set first, you know.
Speaker 2: That way you can really get a feel if this
Speaker 2: is something for you or not, and that way you
Speaker 2: can gain more respect from the producers and nobody's like
Speaker 2: the less likely to fuck with you. You know, there's
Speaker 2: other routes about it.
Speaker 1: So the compromise we kind of came to because then
Speaker 1: you also make again Devil's Advocate the other argument, you
Speaker 1: can't shoot porn, but you can go die in a
Speaker 1: war overseas somewhere at eighteen, So it's like whatever I think,
Speaker 1: And also numbers such a weird thing because it's it's
Speaker 1: not age, it's maturity. Like I've been me at nineteen
Speaker 1: year olds who are so much more mature than forty
Speaker 1: year olds. I've talked, Oh yeah, right, we thought, and
Speaker 1: with the other performers I interviewed on this, maybe eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty one. You can only shoot, you can get
Speaker 1: in only fans. You can't post anything hardcore, only solo stuff, ludes, nudes, whatever,
Speaker 1: this and that. And then at twenty one, if you've
Speaker 1: experienced the industry somewhat and understood the idea behind it,
Speaker 1: then you could move into hardcore stuff. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for gang bangs, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: You know, as long as they're over whatever age, I'm
Speaker 1: not sweating it. I just you're right. I don't want
Speaker 1: some girl coming in doing four scenes and then deciding
Speaker 1: she hates it and you know, it haunting her the
Speaker 1: rest of her life. But the other one, I don't
Speaker 1: want some homeless eighteen year old girl being told like
Speaker 1: you can't start an only hot gorgeousness and that you're right,
Speaker 1: look for something else if you can, because this industry
Speaker 1: is you have to be all in. It's a pool.
Speaker 1: You can't dip your toes. You got to just jump in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't half asset at all. And that's an issue.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think that they have that they
Speaker 2: can come in and shoot one or two scenes and
Speaker 2: mommy and Daddy's not gonna no bitch as one or
Speaker 2: two scenes might be plaster on the front page of
Speaker 2: porn out and now you're fucked. And now whenever you're
Speaker 2: going out for interviews, somebody out there has seen you.
Speaker 2: And like there's no way around that. Like this world
Speaker 2: is so fucking small you never know, and even with
Speaker 2: only fans too, Like I feel like it all needs
Speaker 2: to be over twenty one. Like I feel like when
Speaker 2: as soon as you graduate from high school, you should
Speaker 2: whatever dreams or aspirations that you had, you should start
Speaker 2: trying to follow that and then use porn as a crunch.
Speaker 2: If that's not working out for you, then, Like I've
Speaker 2: known the bunch of points theories that they have great
Speaker 2: degrees and everything. They had a different vision for their life.
Speaker 2: They needed extra money, and they figured they tried every
Speaker 2: single other route before going to porn. And I feel
Speaker 2: like that's something people need to try to do, find
Speaker 2: every single other route before coming into porn, because, like
Speaker 2: you said, you can't just dip your toe in it,
Speaker 2: like you're pretty much in it to win it, or
Speaker 2: you're in it forever and you're just regretting your whole
Speaker 2: entire fucking life and you'll never be able to succeed
Speaker 2: in a field that you were with because let's be serious, now,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fields that like I'm sorry, you
Speaker 2: do one fucking scene, it focks your whole life up,
Speaker 2: Like you can't go be a brain surgeon now, you
Speaker 2: can't go be a fucking scientist now, Like the people
Speaker 2: are gonna look that up, like I'm sorry. Like even
Speaker 2: in a military hurt like if you do porn, like
Speaker 2: you can't even be in there, like they're not gonna
Speaker 2: accept you. So like there's so many and now you
Speaker 2: just suck that up too, Like there's so many. And
Speaker 2: if you do join a military, you don't have to
Speaker 2: be active duty, like you can work in a fucking office,
Speaker 2: Like there's other routes that you can take that are
Speaker 2: more beneficial to you than porn. And then once you
Speaker 2: get older, your frontal lobe is fully developed, you looked
Speaker 2: at all your options you already try. I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people are lazy. They don't want to try.
Speaker 2: They just see quick money and quick benefits and they're
Speaker 2: like that, let's fucking try that. And then they try
Speaker 2: ABCDEFG afterwards, and that's where they fuck up. So try
Speaker 2: all the other letters. And then once you're finally like
Speaker 2: you know what, I think, I'm ready to fucking try this,
Speaker 2: then fucking do porn. But don't just be a lazy
Speaker 2: asshole and don't try everything else underneath this guy, Like
Speaker 2: try like actually into your future and figuring out what
Speaker 2: makes you happy, genuinely, because in use porn as approach.
Speaker 2: I always tell people when people shoot mainstream porn, use
Speaker 2: mainstream porn as a funnel into whatever else you want
Speaker 2: to produce and do in your life.
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Speaker 1: I think we've had a wonderful conversation. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I appreciate you for all that you are,
Speaker 2: and I love you for all that you are. And
Speaker 2: I hope every single day you feel fucking blessed and happy,
Speaker 2: healthy and thrive. I really do appreciate you and what
Speaker 2: you're doing and this fun adventure. It seems like it
Speaker 2: makes you happy talking to all of us smart peddlers.
Speaker 1: Dittoh, I do thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2: Thank you every by