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Speaker 2: I've been to Dallas. I've never been to the site
Speaker 2: of the assassination. That would be interesting.
Speaker 1: You could pretend you're the third gunman on the Grassy
Speaker 1: Knoll and dodge around a bit.
Speaker 2: Dodge if you will. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm not fascinated. You're a little fascinated by crime,
Speaker 2: but I'm not. I don't want to go relive it.
Speaker 3: You don't have to relive it.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of fascinated that you would be standing
Speaker 1: in a place where things happened.
Speaker 2: Well, when I was a reporter in Seattle and they
Speaker 2: finally caught the Green River Killer and they got Gary Ridgeway,
Speaker 2: and one of the things that they were doing was
Speaker 2: they had best basically set him up in an office
Speaker 2: in South Seattle and they were interviewing him, trying to
Speaker 2: tie up all the loose ends, because his death toll
Speaker 2: was was like many of these serial killers, probably higher
Speaker 2: than what he was ever charged for. And one of
Speaker 2: the things that he was doing was helping them. He
Speaker 2: was trying to remember where he put the bodies. And
Speaker 2: there were a couple of times when the Sheriff's Department
Speaker 2: and other law enforcement agencies would take reporters out to
Speaker 2: the scene of where they were looking, and that was
Speaker 2: enough that that was not I mean, the idea that that,
Speaker 2: even if it was twenty five years ago, that this
Speaker 2: guy had dumped the woman's body in that area.
Speaker 4: Did not sit well.
Speaker 1: I covered the worst mass deadliest mass shooting in Orange
Speaker 1: County history. It was one of my last stories as
Speaker 1: a reporter before I started anchoring for John and Ken,
Speaker 1: and it affected me a great deal at the time
Speaker 1: and still has. And I drive by the place where
Speaker 1: it happened all the time, and.
Speaker 4: It's still Salon Maritime. Yes, still just.
Speaker 1: As chilling, and a friend of mine recommended, and it's
Speaker 1: exceptional a restaurant that is right next to that location
Speaker 1: because it stayed that Salon has kept the name and
Speaker 1: everything as a showing of strength. But there's a restaurant
Speaker 1: next door and it's exceptional. I mean, it is one
Speaker 1: of the best meals I've ever had. But I can't
Speaker 1: go because the whole time I'm sitting there reliving reporting
Speaker 1: on that In all the details and knowing exactly what
Speaker 1: happened and the stories behind it, I just can't do it.
Speaker 3: It makes me ill, you know.
Speaker 1: And every time I drive by, I drive by, and
Speaker 1: I drive by the liquor store parking lot where I
Speaker 1: had to park because the whole scene was cordoned off
Speaker 1: with the crime scene tape. And I remember the guy
Speaker 1: who ran the liquor store running out and telling me
Speaker 1: that he was going to have the car towed because
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to park there.
Speaker 3: I remember starting crying. It was like a whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's just like this, this moment sealed in time. I
Speaker 1: would never want to but but we have personal connections
Speaker 1: to those two stories, like in terms of covering them,
Speaker 1: in terms of like a Jean Breonne Ramsey thing that
Speaker 1: I'm far removed in true it might have more allure,
Speaker 1: I guess, but even I don't know. It's really sick
Speaker 1: though too. The whole time i'd be there, I'd be
Speaker 1: looking around at all the people that signed up for this, going,
Speaker 1: what the hell's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Anyway? We'll get into that coming up in True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4: It's time for Swamp one. I'm a politician, which means
Speaker 4: I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not
Speaker 4: kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Yeah, we got the
Speaker 4: real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 3: The other side never quits.
Speaker 4: So what I'm not going anywhere so.
Speaker 3: That you train the swap, I can imagine what can
Speaker 3: be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 4: You know, Americans have always been going a president. But
Speaker 4: they're not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4: Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch?
Speaker 4: They're all well. We mentioned that.
Speaker 2: A short time ago, Carolyn Leavitt, the new Levitt, the
Speaker 2: new White House Press Secretary, held her first official press
Speaker 2: briefing of the second term, dominated by the pause on
Speaker 2: federal grants and loans that will start this afternoon. President
Speaker 2: Trump's administration says it's doing an across the board ideological
Speaker 2: review of its spending, which has caused some confusion and
Speaker 2: some panic among some organizations. They said this was necessary
Speaker 2: to ensure that all funding does comply with the executive
Speaker 2: orders intended to underdo, sorry, intended to undo a bunch
Speaker 2: of steps on transgender rights, environmental justice, diversity, equity and
Speaker 2: inclusion efforts. Also said that federal assistance to individuals, and
Speaker 2: she kept repeating this direct federal assistance to individuals will
Speaker 2: not be affected, including Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, and
Speaker 2: programs like that. Although this freeze, you're talking about the
Speaker 2: potential for it to be millions of dollars at least temporarily.
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta is leaving CNN. This is a big deal.
Speaker 1: Longtime reporter and anchor, Jim Acosta, CNN newsroom anchor. You
Speaker 1: know him from going toe to toe with Trump during
Speaker 1: the first administration. He was a thorn in the side
Speaker 1: in that press room. And this is curious. I mean,
Speaker 1: CNN did announce days ago around two hundred layoffs, predominantly
Speaker 1: in TV. They're trying to revamp their digital operations. The
Speaker 1: shakeup of the broadcast schedule would have replaced his ten
Speaker 1: am hour with Wolf Blitzer and Pamela Brown's Situation Room.
Speaker 1: He says, after giving all of this some careful consideration
Speaker 1: and weighing in an alternative timeslot that CNN offered me,
Speaker 1: I've decided to move on. Was this CNN ousting Jim
Speaker 1: Acosta because of his bad relationship with Trump in an
Speaker 1: effort to claw back some of the people that would
Speaker 1: turn their back on CNN forever in light of the
Speaker 1: new administration, the renewed tracks administration. That's because CNN is
Speaker 1: I think that's the bigger version, that's the bigger concern.
Speaker 1: They've got to do something. I mean, is it maybe
Speaker 1: them moving a little towards not you know, well listen
Speaker 1: breaking him over the coals at every turn.
Speaker 2: One of the most popular viral creators, I guess is
Speaker 2: the right term or star of some of the viral
Speaker 2: moments that's come from CNN lately is Scott Jennings, who
Speaker 2: is a pretty conservative guy who shows up on these
Speaker 2: CNN panels and those are the those are the clips
Speaker 2: that exist on Twitter, you know the next morning, is
Speaker 2: him saying something that that makes the more liberal people
Speaker 2: on their panels upset?
Speaker 4: Whatever? I mean?
Speaker 2: So, I don't know, it's a I don't know exactly
Speaker 2: what the reason is and where Jim Acosta ends up.
Speaker 2: This is not a Don Lemon thing. This is not
Speaker 2: a Don Lemon issue because Jimsta had a much better
Speaker 2: reputation I think than did dun Lemon. California Department of
Speaker 2: Water Resources says the military did not come into California
Speaker 2: and turn on the water. And the reason they had
Speaker 2: to say that was because lately, yesterday President Trump on
Speaker 2: truth Social said, the United States military just entered the
Speaker 2: great state of California and under emergency powers turned on
Speaker 2: the water flowing abundantly from the Pacific Northwest. And beyond
Speaker 2: the days of putting a fake environmental argument over, the
Speaker 2: people are over enjoy the water California. California Department of
Speaker 2: Water Resources had to come out and put a post
Speaker 2: also on Twitter that said the military did not enter California.
Speaker 2: The federal government restarted federal water pumps after they were
Speaker 2: offline for maintenance for three days. And again there's still
Speaker 2: no valve that exists somewhere between California.
Speaker 4: And the Great Pacific Northwest. Despite what the President says.
Speaker 1: We talked about AI and deep seek and China's ability
Speaker 1: to use cheaper chips computer chips to develop as just
Speaker 1: as well as we have advanced AI technologies. We had
Speaker 1: asked AI to create us a Christmas play this year,
Speaker 1: just to see what would happen, and we finally kind
Speaker 1: of dug into it and found what it created.
Speaker 3: Because we did our own that Gary wrote.
Speaker 1: But we'll get into what AI thought we should have
Speaker 1: presented you in the twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 3: It's called the Christmas Wish by AI.
Speaker 4: It's really it's really pretty goofy. I have to go
Speaker 4: through and.
Speaker 1: Check it south would you use Well, let's get to this, yeah,
Speaker 1: side hustles. More and more people in America are getting
Speaker 1: into the side hustle business. Why well, rising costs, I've
Speaker 1: got to I've got the extra time, I can pick
Speaker 1: up something extra. Let's just get it done and help
Speaker 1: the bank account.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of different places that you could go
Speaker 2: to find I mean just the websites alone. Side hustle School,
Speaker 2: Side Hustle Nation twenty seven Best side hustle ideas to
Speaker 2: make five hundred bucks in your spare time.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: I think it actually coincides with a story that we
Speaker 2: had done before regarding never spenders. The people who say
Speaker 2: that they're going to cut down on what they things
Speaker 2: that they spend way too much money on, including clothes
Speaker 2: or makeup or I don't know what do you call
Speaker 2: manicures and pedicures and things like that, And a side
Speaker 2: hustle is a way for you to bring in more money,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't change your circumstance necessarily if you're continuing
Speaker 2: to spend.
Speaker 1: Workers with more than one job hit the highest level
Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. That was last reach during the Great Recession.
Speaker 1: Here are some examples. A Google contractor who sells cell
Speaker 1: phones at Walmart. An English teacher who moonlights at a
Speaker 1: baseball stadium, maybe concessions. An accountant who sells eggs and
Speaker 1: chickens farmed off her land.
Speaker 3: I would totally do that, and I would buy those two.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would buy chickens, but I would buy
Speaker 1: the chickens eggs. A taco bell manager picking up shifts
Speaker 1: at KFC.
Speaker 2: There's enough out there, and it's flexible enough depending on
Speaker 2: what kind of schedule you have at your first job,
Speaker 2: your primary job. Right if you work a regular nine
Speaker 2: to five something like that kind of job, there are
Speaker 2: opportunities for you to go out and do things in
Speaker 2: the evenings or on the weekends if you want.
Speaker 4: It's out there and it's available to you.
Speaker 1: In some states, the percentage of workers with multiple jobs
Speaker 1: was roughly double the national average. Those states Wisconsin, North Dakota,
Speaker 1: and Hawaii. Now multiple job holders spoke with the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: and they said that doing this came at a cost.
Speaker 1: What was the cost sleep, mental health, and of course
Speaker 1: time spent with their families. High school English teacher and
Speaker 1: Prince George's County, Maryland says she sleeps four or five
Speaker 1: hours on nights. She sells merchandise at National Parks in
Speaker 1: d C. The Taco Bell manager who moonlights at KFC
Speaker 1: says that when he is able to get his desired
Speaker 1: hours at KFC, rarely.
Speaker 3: Sees his kids.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Is this used to be like a fun little story
Speaker 1: right the side hustle of you know, you're doing something
Speaker 1: fun on the side or what have you, or something
Speaker 1: you know, maybe social media, maybe you're making money off
Speaker 1: social media something like that. This seems to be like
Speaker 1: the cost of everything is up and people are having
Speaker 1: a hard time making ends meet with their one job,
Speaker 1: so they're having to find a second job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the hustle part of it. It
Speaker 2: goes beyond just getting that second job. I mean your
Speaker 2: point of or your example of the Taco Bell also
Speaker 2: doing KFC, those are very similar jobs.
Speaker 4: You're doing it in two different places.
Speaker 2: If you're doing let's say you're the Taco Bell manager,
Speaker 2: and you want to start flipping items for profit. You
Speaker 2: buy low and sell high. Whatever it might be. You
Speaker 2: spend time a goodwill or yard sales or a state sales,
Speaker 2: or flea markets or Facebook marketplace or something like that.
Speaker 2: That takes a lot of energy and effort unless you're
Speaker 2: really good at finding those, you know, diamonds in the
Speaker 2: rough that you could then turn around and make some
Speaker 2: big money off of. You could freelance your skills, you
Speaker 2: could sell spreadsheets. You could do a local service business,
Speaker 2: so you could do a ride share driver thing. You
Speaker 2: could be somebody who's in charge of vending machines, vending
Speaker 2: machine resupply companies and things like that.
Speaker 4: All of those could turn into larger things.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of the strain on you as
Speaker 2: a human being, strain on your health, strain on your
Speaker 2: family life. Hopefully not a strain on your finances, because
Speaker 2: that's why you got that second gig in the first place.
Speaker 4: But what else would you do? Just don't say deli
Speaker 4: where I.
Speaker 1: Would probably try to get a job working in the
Speaker 1: NFL as a second gig or that is my second gig, okay.
Speaker 2: But then what after that? I'm looking for your third
Speaker 2: and fourth gig, keep you busy.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 1: I don't really have any other sciritable skills. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I could. You know, I would totally work
Speaker 1: at like a Jersey Mix or Jimmy John's or any
Speaker 1: of those places, because I do love making sandwiches. I
Speaker 1: really have an affinity for it.
Speaker 4: You're good at it.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty damn good at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I hear.
Speaker 3: It's very rare that I can say that about anything.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk about how bosses are firing.
Speaker 4: Gen Z.
Speaker 2: Listen to gen Z. It's time to put up or
Speaker 2: shut up. You want to you want to get some
Speaker 2: good credibility here.
Speaker 4: You're going to need.
Speaker 2: To work on that reputation that it's going to mean
Speaker 2: showing up to workplaces.
Speaker 4: A game.
Speaker 3: Ok wow, Okay.
Speaker 1: Stories we are following for you today while all the
Speaker 1: stories like we do every day, the White House says
Speaker 1: President Trump sending a loud and clear message on immigration.
Speaker 1: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt highlighted the executive actions in the
Speaker 1: first week in back in office. I should say. She
Speaker 1: read out a list of some of the illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: who have been detained during raids.
Speaker 4: This week. Some of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1: These are not people who are criminals because they came
Speaker 1: here illegally. These are people who came here illegally and
Speaker 1: then committed heinous crimes.
Speaker 3: These are people that we've had a.
Speaker 1: Way to get them out of the country just practicing
Speaker 1: basic law and order, and we have shielded them from
Speaker 1: being sent out of the country because I have no idea,
Speaker 1: I have no idea why it can't be just feeling.
Speaker 3: We're not talking about a grandmother of six.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the young couple who came here
Speaker 1: to better the lives for their children. We're talking about
Speaker 1: rapists and murderers and the worst of the worst who
Speaker 1: are also here illegally but have been kept safe because.
Speaker 2: They're here illegally, hiding behind others, my God, hiding behind
Speaker 2: the people that do come here simply looking for a
Speaker 2: better life. And Vidia dropped seventeen percent yesterday, of course,
Speaker 2: fueled by investor concern about the Deep Seek artificial intelligence
Speaker 2: startup out of China, and video shares tumbled seventeen percent yesterday.
Speaker 2: It's the biggest drop since March of twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine billion dollars in market cap lost yesterday.
Speaker 4: Now in Vidia has recovered a bit.
Speaker 2: It's back up about seven percent as of right now.
Speaker 2: The NASDAK in general has come back and is in
Speaker 2: positive territory by about two percent.
Speaker 4: Both the Dow and the S.
Speaker 2: And P five hundred also up in the positive territory
Speaker 2: so far today.
Speaker 1: Well, with each new generation comes a different way of
Speaker 1: interacting at work. Every generation is a little bit different
Speaker 1: when it comes to what they bring to the workplace,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to just change the way you
Speaker 1: do things to accommodate for them, because in this day
Speaker 1: and age, it's not it's not vice versa, is it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like at least a handfull of
Speaker 1: years ago, we know some people in management who had
Speaker 1: to go to special training to learn how to deal
Speaker 1: with the kids coming out of college and how to
Speaker 1: make them feel safe and seen in all of the things. Well,
Speaker 1: now it seems like could the pendulum be swinging the
Speaker 1: other way. Fortune magazine has an article out about bosses
Speaker 1: firing gen Z grads just months after hiring them and
Speaker 1: that there are several things that need to change. They
Speaker 1: are cutting ties with these young workers who are not
Speaker 1: up to scratch just months after they hired them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, About six in ten say they have already fired
Speaker 2: some of the gen Z workers that they hired just
Speaker 2: out of college in just the last few months. Intelligent
Speaker 2: dot com is a website dedicated to helping professionals navigate
Speaker 2: the future of work young professionals, specifically, said they surveyed
Speaker 2: one thousand different bosses around the country.
Speaker 1: One in six bosses say they're hesitant to hire recent
Speaker 1: college grads again. One in seven have admitted that they
Speaker 1: may avoid hiring them altogether next year.
Speaker 2: Three quarters of the company's surveyed said some or all
Speaker 2: of their recent graduate hires were unsatisfactory in some way.
Speaker 1: All right, so what's wrong with these people? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with the young people? Well, lack of motivation or initiative.
Speaker 1: That that is the reason why things didn't work out
Speaker 1: with their new hire, according to fifty percent of the leaders.
Speaker 2: They also point to gen Z being unprofessional organized, having
Speaker 2: poor communication skills the top reasons for having to fire
Speaker 2: these people.
Speaker 1: I think poor communication skills is so key. I've told
Speaker 1: this story before and I'll tell it again. When I
Speaker 1: went to Chico State was making the decision and we
Speaker 1: were on that tour with our parents and prospective students
Speaker 1: and things like that. One of the talking points of
Speaker 1: the tour was the tour guide saying, Chico State has
Speaker 1: the highest percentage of people getting hired right out of graduation.
Speaker 3: Why do you think it is? Do you think we're
Speaker 3: the brightest minds? No? But it's a social campus.
Speaker 1: It's where you learn how to talk to people and communicate,
Speaker 1: and that is so key when you enter the workforce
Speaker 1: no matter what you do, being able to talk to
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a social butterfly or the
Speaker 1: life of the party, but just being able to communicate
Speaker 1: with people and talk to people is so key in
Speaker 1: moving ahead.
Speaker 2: And if you're not the social butterfly, life of the
Speaker 2: party person, your friend is and you deal with them,
Speaker 2: or your maybe your adversary is, and you have to
Speaker 2: deal with that. I mean, that is a layer that
Speaker 2: is not I don't think Chico State or schools like
Speaker 2: that go out of their way to promote that, but
Speaker 2: that is a layer that is just it's just there.
Speaker 4: It just exists. I don't on some campuses that others don't.
Speaker 3: Think they promoted it.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of the social lifestyle that that
Speaker 1: campus was and this was a byproduct of learning how
Speaker 1: to communicate with people and different people from different areas
Speaker 1: just better.
Speaker 2: The bosses say they've struggled with the gen z's tangible challenges,
Speaker 2: things like being late to work, being late to meetings.
Speaker 2: They're not wearing office appropriate clothing, They're using language that's
Speaker 2: not appropriate for the workplace, not looking at you.
Speaker 3: I've been good today. I haven't said anything today.
Speaker 4: Now, they said.
Speaker 2: More than half of hiring managers have come to the
Speaker 2: conclusion that some college graduates are simply unprepared for the
Speaker 2: world of work.
Speaker 1: Twenty percent say they can't handle the workload. They say
Speaker 1: colleges know that students are wholly unprepared for the workforce.
Speaker 3: Of course they do.
Speaker 1: It's the college campuses that have fostered this whole weird,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, snowflake situation we find
Speaker 1: ourselves in. When colleges started putting together safe spaces and
Speaker 1: you know, circles of touching and feeling and tickling, like
Speaker 1: what no college is where you go where you start
Speaker 1: learning that you're kind of on your own. You've got
Speaker 1: the training wheels on, but you're kind of still figuring
Speaker 1: out the bumps on the road and all of that.
Speaker 1: Like you should be a little uncomfortable. It should be
Speaker 1: like the next step in your development. College shouldn't be
Speaker 1: as safe as freaking kindergarten.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was people are going to make you mad, They're
Speaker 2: going to say things to offend you. Here's how you
Speaker 2: deal with Yes, it wasn't look for these micro aggressions, right,
Speaker 2: and look for a reason to be a grieved, right,
Speaker 2: and then you'll find a place for you to get
Speaker 2: over it. That was never the That was I mean,
Speaker 2: we've done a great disservice to some of these people.
Speaker 3: He was reading an article.
Speaker 1: Is the Selena Gomez crying video has gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of attention. You've seen this and she's for.
Speaker 4: Those who don't know, she was crying about immigration rates.
Speaker 3: She was saying that children were being yeah, the whole bit.
Speaker 1: But anyway, and the point of the article or the
Speaker 1: opinion piece was that there is this currency that young
Speaker 1: people get for being vulnerable and damaged publicly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and if they don't have their own.
Speaker 1: Strife, their own personal things that make them vulnerable and aggrieved,
Speaker 1: then they take on other people's things and they run
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 4: It's an entire lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Where you you have it so now there's difference.
Speaker 4: You have it so easy that you take on other
Speaker 4: people's pain.
Speaker 2: There are actual people who do that, and they're the
Speaker 2: ones who do things like start charities or make huge
Speaker 2: donations or volunteer.
Speaker 4: They don't post a video of themselves crying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do something, don't post about it.
Speaker 1: Right. Dolly Parton's musical will debut in Nashville this summer
Speaker 1: before heading to Broadway.
Speaker 3: That'll be a fun one.
Speaker 1: Dolly, an original musical, will begin previews at Belmont University's
Speaker 1: Fisher Center for the Performing Arts July eighteenth. Partner Course
Speaker 1: says Nashville has been her musical home for over sixty years,
Speaker 1: so it's the right and perfect place for the world premiere.
Speaker 4: Belmont is a beautiful university.
Speaker 1: Casting for the show has not been revealed. Oh, we've
Speaker 1: got to get you in.
Speaker 4: What am I going to play in Dolly Parton's life?
Speaker 3: There's gotta be a gentleman.
Speaker 4: There is a gentleman. She's been married for a very
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 3: What's he like? Do you think you could pull that off?
Speaker 3: Let me look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he doesn't sing, you can sing. Probably sings.
Speaker 1: You can sing. Fine, he's gonna sing in the musical. Carl,
Speaker 1: you look like this guy? You look like this guy,
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas Dean is his name. Look at this guy.
Speaker 1: Let me get the bigger picture here. I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 1: you're like the spitting image.
Speaker 2: I mean it's blurry, you can barely see it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to see what Dolly Parton looked before
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 4: She looks a little bit like Casey Musgraves.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she does. This is the guy. Look at
Speaker 1: how much you could pull that off. I could not
Speaker 1: pull You could pull that off in a heartbeat? Are
Speaker 1: you kidding?
Speaker 3: You could?
Speaker 1: I'm posting this let us know if you think, I'll
Speaker 1: put it on our Instagram story.
Speaker 4: That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: We got to get you into this musical. Do you
Speaker 1: have anything in adult theater on the horizon?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: But I'm also not going to go to Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: It's beautiful? What's the what's the secret to happiness? The
Speaker 1: happiness comes from within?
Speaker 2: So at the San Quentin Rehab Center, Reverend George Williams
Speaker 2: is flourishing. He leads Catholic Mass for about two hundred
Speaker 2: incarcerated men, on Sundays in English and in Spanish. He
Speaker 2: offers pastoral support during the week during his sharing his
Speaker 2: faith with inmates has been a source of joy for
Speaker 2: him for a long time, and he says, I look
Speaker 2: forward to going to work every day. He's been there.
Speaker 2: He's been a chaplain at the prison for thirty years.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry at a prison for thirty years, and he's
Speaker 2: been at San Quentin for about half that time, and
Speaker 2: he says, for me, it's drinking grace from a fire.
Speaker 2: OHS researchers have found a very strong link between faith
Speaker 2: and happiness, and in recent years they've surveyed people around
Speaker 2: the world to ask how happy they are, and in
Speaker 2: many cases, they said they've found meaningful correlations between people's
Speaker 2: self reported rankings of happiness and whether they take part
Speaker 2: in organized religious services, and it doesn't matter which faith,
Speaker 2: they say. Similar correlations found among people practicing Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism,
Speaker 2: and other faiths, and for people living and working outside
Speaker 2: of the prison walls as well. Pure Research Center study
Speaker 2: shows that people who are active in religious congregations tend
Speaker 2: to be happier than unaffiliated or inactive members of religious groups.
Speaker 2: They also tend to be more civically engaged. Now why
Speaker 2: is that, Why would that be the case. Well, it's
Speaker 2: a focus on something other than yourself. It's a focus
Speaker 2: on and even if it's not another person that you're
Speaker 2: focusing on, whether you know, volunteering in a different organization
Speaker 2: or helping somebody through a tough time, it's a focus
Speaker 2: on something that's not you at the center of the universe.
Speaker 1: It's very bad for us to focus on ourselves like that.
Speaker 4: Especially.
Speaker 1: You gotta, you know, take a shower and have some
Speaker 1: sort of focus in terms of on yourself. You take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, but don't just sit there and sit
Speaker 1: in yourself.
Speaker 3: Ego is a terrible thing from a lane to drive.
Speaker 2: There's middle aged mother too, who in this article she
Speaker 2: said a sense of transcendence comes to her from singing
Speaker 2: in church.
Speaker 3: Do you feel that way when you're doing your adult theater?
Speaker 4: Do I feel a sense of transcendence? No.
Speaker 1: I generally think that the people that I know that
Speaker 1: are religious are happier than the people I know who
Speaker 1: are not. I find a lot of truth to this.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever known somebody who is religious
Speaker 1: who is hard to be around or upset or unhappy
Speaker 1: or depressed.
Speaker 2: Part of that I'm generalizing here, but part of that
Speaker 2: would come from a belief in there is something and
Speaker 2: I don't just mean outside of yourself, but there's something
Speaker 2: outside of here, bigger, right, Well, it comes when you die.
Speaker 2: And if people are like, well then I become worm food?
Speaker 2: Then why what? What happiness is there in that? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're living for the moment. But then I mean you
Speaker 2: have this big hollow feeling at the end of every day,
Speaker 2: which I think means a lot of people drink to
Speaker 2: go to bed or take you know, medicate or do
Speaker 2: whatever wrong things because they don't have a belief in
Speaker 2: anything outside of themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to believe in the afterlife
Speaker 1: to believe in God, and in religion. I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot they all people who are religious who think
Speaker 1: that you know who are all.
Speaker 4: Some warm food?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but are okay living their life for something
Speaker 1: else that's not them, you know, living the life that
Speaker 1: they're given their time here?
Speaker 4: Why are we so existential today? What's going on here?
Speaker 4: What's happening?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. Do you want your jeopardy question?
Speaker 4: Please? Something smart?
Speaker 3: Silly inventions for six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Life for farmers was a lot less grim after Cyrus
Speaker 1: McCormick began developing his version of this machine in eighteen
Speaker 1: thirty one.
Speaker 4: Ah the old wheat thresher.
Speaker 3: No, No, I have no idea the reaper.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you lived off the land and stopped thinking
Speaker 1: about yourself so much.
Speaker 4: Stop go to the grocery store so often.
Speaker 3: How about getting back to your roots.
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