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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, it's that lady that works at the post

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<v Speaker 1>office in your old neighborhood who asks where you've been. Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>Ward and listen. I'm looking at you, and I see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your arms are folded, you're glaring. You're saying, make me

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<v Speaker 1>like flies, bitch, and maybe I will. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>our work cut out for us on this one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie. So it's good. I've enlisted one of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's most charming and visible dipterologists. He's done field

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<v Speaker 1>work on several continents. He's named more species than you

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<v Speaker 1>can literally shake a flyswater at, and he lives and

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<v Speaker 1>breathes flies metaphorically but also probably literally on accidents sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>He studied biotech for undergrad and then got a PhD

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<v Speaker 1>in insect systematics and evolution, and is now doing a

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<v Speaker 1>postdoc fellowship at Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization's

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<v Speaker 1>National Insect Collection, researching the evolution and classification of soldier flies,

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<v Speaker 1>which are stout, little outside flies named after warriors because

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<v Speaker 1>of spikes on their necks, though Workipedia notes that they

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<v Speaker 1>are quote often rather inactive flies. So soldier flies, you're

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<v Speaker 1>my head of flies. So this Dipterologist is also a

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<v Speaker 1>Tedex speaker at a sycommer who's done a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>TV and radio appearances and just wrote his first book,

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes on Flies for Kids. It's due out in September,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get to him in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily who Loves Trees, happy to hand you that travel

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<v Speaker 1>your domicile, but why you should love them more with

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest cheerleader for the tiniest and most maligned creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>Dipterologist doctor Brian Lazard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doctor Brian Lasade aka brought the fly Guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hate him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, bry the fly Guy, how

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<v Speaker 1>long have you been using that name? Because it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I started when I am launched my Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>account like in twenty thirteen, So it's sillly been ten

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<v Speaker 2>years since I've been using.

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<v Speaker 1>The fly Guy. Okay. Now, I was going to explain

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<v Speaker 1>this in the intro, but I decided I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you do it. You are a dipterologist, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, correct, I am a dipterologist.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I'm going to make you explain why you're

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<v Speaker 1>a dipterrologist from at least a taxonomic viewpoint. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the etymology of Diptera?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Diptera is the scientific term for flies, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's Latin for die meaning too and terror meaning wings.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you can tell flies apart from most

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<v Speaker 2>of the insects, is that they only have two wings.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why we call them diptera.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it ever vex you because you're a dipterrologist,

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<v Speaker 1>you study flies, you buy the fly guy. But there

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<v Speaker 1>must be so many different kinds of flies. How can

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<v Speaker 1>they all be grouped together just because they have two wings?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. There's one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand spaces of flies something all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so many, and they're the ones we only know

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<v Speaker 2>about now. It's funny because when people think about flies,

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<v Speaker 2>they think of the tiny little bushfly or a march

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<v Speaker 2>flyer that you know annoys you or ruins the picnic

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<v Speaker 2>shoot fly far but there are so many spaces out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually fifteen times more fly species than bird species,

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<v Speaker 2>just to put it in perspective, and they're everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 2>on every continent including Antarctica. How mind blowing is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Very Also, because you think you'd go to an Oarctica

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like, ah, the flies can't find me here,

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<v Speaker 1>and one pops up from a snoke and be like stop, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like what, what, how how did you get here?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they eating in Anarctica?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the largest full time animal living on Antarctica

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<v Speaker 2>is actually a fly. It's the Antarctic midge fly. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so tiny as well, you wouldn't even see it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually adapted to survive the freezing temperatures because they

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<v Speaker 2>actually freeze the larvae and they can stay frozen for

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<v Speaker 2>nine months of the year to wait for it to

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<v Speaker 2>get really cold. They go into hibernation, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>it starts warming up, that's when they start reactivating and

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<v Speaker 2>turning into adults so they can breed have children, and

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle continues. And regarding what they eat, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they eat a lot of algae and moss down there,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's the only thing they can eat.

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<v Speaker 1>And what eats a flightless anarctic midge fly? You ask nothing, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing else can go as hard as living as a

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<v Speaker 1>baby under the ice for two years, desiccating seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of your body's water as an anti freeze strategy and

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<v Speaker 1>being the only native, fully terrestrial animal on the continent

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<v Speaker 1>of Antarctica. Polar bears, you scream at me in your

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<v Speaker 1>car alone. If you heard the Risenology episodes, you would

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<v Speaker 1>know polar bears don't live in the Antarctic and that

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<v Speaker 1>ant Arctic literally means no bears here Antarctic, although that

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<v Speaker 1>icy continent should be called four millimeters wingless flies that

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<v Speaker 1>are more hardcore than bears and only emerge the adults

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<v Speaker 1>ten days of their lives just to have an orgy

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<v Speaker 1>and ice their babies. That is what Antarctica should be

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<v Speaker 1>called thanks to their midges. Now, what about other flies?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do flies only have two wings? What happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the other set? Like Hymenoptera has four, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and butterflies have four. And what's really cool about

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<v Speaker 2>flies is they got smart millions of years ago and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, you know what, we don't need this second

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<v Speaker 2>pair of wings. It's holding us back. So what they

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<v Speaker 2>did is they decided to reduce them so cute. They

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<v Speaker 2>decided they didn't need this second pair of wings. It

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<v Speaker 2>was holding them back, so they ditch them. They actually evolved,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll de evolved. The second pair of wings into these

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<v Speaker 2>tiny little hole tears which are like lollipop knobs hall terrors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I needed to know what this word meant,

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<v Speaker 1>so I looked it up for us. And those armpit

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<v Speaker 1>lollipop navorl jobbers get their name from ancient Greek gym

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<v Speaker 1>rats because hall terrors were weights made out of big

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<v Speaker 1>ass rocks, and long jumpers would hold them and swing

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<v Speaker 1>them forward to gain momentum and a few centimeters on

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<v Speaker 1>their long jumps. Also very inspiring that if you need

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<v Speaker 1>a weight set, you can just carve a handle in

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<v Speaker 1>a rock and call it a day and a whole terror.

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<v Speaker 2>And how they work are like little counterbalances, so they

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<v Speaker 2>can zip and fly around in the air, and they

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<v Speaker 2>can dart and change direction and angle so quickly because

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<v Speaker 2>of these counterbalances. So they're really clever, speedy, and just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>How evolution just you know, does its magic.

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<v Speaker 1>And are those little knobby jobbers are those considered wings

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<v Speaker 1>but just stubby wings, or are those completely evolved into

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<v Speaker 1>a totally separate structure.

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<v Speaker 2>They've evolved into a completely separate structure. So they've still

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<v Speaker 2>got the base, which is called a stem, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they've got the little lollipop like knob at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what they kind of flick around to change

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum in which direction they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Flying, kind of like a Greek long jumper, using physics

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<v Speaker 1>to carry themselves forward. So nah, you love flies now? No, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, almost, So.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite remarkable. It's so simple and beautiful. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that's pretty much what gives flies the morphological uniqueness,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's always some exceptions too. So one of the

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<v Speaker 2>flies that I studied down here in the alpine zone

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia are the Souldi fly, and there's one species,

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<v Speaker 2>Boreotes subulatis, that is actually wingless. The female doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a wings, so technically can you call it a fly?

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<v Speaker 2>We still do.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, even though she does not fly, she is

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<v Speaker 1>a fly.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a fly. And what's really cool is she's

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<v Speaker 2>reduced her wings. We're not sure why she lost them,

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<v Speaker 2>but she crawls up blades of grass and tree trunks

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<v Speaker 2>looking for her male mates because the males actually kept

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<v Speaker 2>their wings. So the males fly to the females and

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<v Speaker 2>then they retproduce and then lay their eggs in the

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<v Speaker 2>leaf litter around. Of course, you've watched the movie Alien

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<v Speaker 2>with the xenomorph queens.

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<v Speaker 1>I have, yes, I have chilled, chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how the queen has this huge abdomen that

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely built for pumping out eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, delicious, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>This wingless souldier fly is the xenomorph of the insect world.

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<v Speaker 2>Her abdomen is about three or four times the size

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<v Speaker 2>of her thorax and she can pump out hundreds of eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's really born to breed and ensure the success

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<v Speaker 2>of her species by pumping out as many vibe eggs

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<v Speaker 2>as she can.

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<v Speaker 1>So many siblings, so many, but a large family, she's

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<v Speaker 1>like pumping them out. Okay, So I googled up the

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<v Speaker 1>soldier fly and it looks kind of like a ladybug larvae.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dark with a pointy segmented bud and according to

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<v Speaker 1>the website for the Australian Museum, due to its lack

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<v Speaker 1>of wings quote, the female of this species of fly

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<v Speaker 1>is often referred to as a walk ouch dude, brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you run me through what types of flies there are?

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<v Speaker 1>I understand there's a bozillion, but what is a fly

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<v Speaker 1>like mosquito? Is that a fly crane fly. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a fly? We got house flies, we got midges, like

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<v Speaker 1>when we see something. I'm sure there's so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that are flies that we don't realize are flies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and mosquitoes. They are definitely a type of fly

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<v Speaker 2>because they only have two wings as well, and many

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<v Speaker 2>people think, you know, mosquitoes aren't flies, they're annoying, they're horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun fact, some mosquitoes are actually vegetarian and we'll just

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<v Speaker 2>drink connected from flowers all day and pollinate. So even

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<v Speaker 2>the pesky mosquito has a role in the ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for them. What are some other things that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize, like our flies? Like what is it even encompass?

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you, as a dipterologist come to be one?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your entry point? What was your entry species?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Good question. I had no idea about flies until

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<v Speaker 2>I started university. I used to hate them. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>were march fliers were the bane of my existence going hiking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought blowflies were super annoying. Wished them away, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I did a Bachelor by technology, actually because I

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<v Speaker 2>liked DNA and I thought, you know, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>save the world by stopping companies from genetically mutating our

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<v Speaker 2>species and that it was a lecture in second year

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<v Speaker 2>of UNI and it was forensic entomology, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with the maggots. They're like freaky happy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I did a research project with that lecturer,

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<v Speaker 2>of spotlet difference between what you've brought in and the

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<v Speaker 2>can identify it and if it's an existing species or

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a brand new species to science. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where it's really fun, because if you discover a new species,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to name it whatever you like. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can have a lot of fun there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many new species of I have you

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<v Speaker 2>In the last ten years. I have named fifty species

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<v Speaker 2>nea science, but I've actually discovered one hundred fifty extra

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So he's named fifty discovered one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>other new species of flies, just forever changing the knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why though there are so many new

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it because the world's heating up? Is there more? Pooh?

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>It's because we don't have enough taxonomists or biologists out

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<v Speaker 2>There's probably, oh, I don't know, I'd say like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty thousand species that are known, and scientists estimate

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<v Speaker 2>that we've only described and named a quarter of all

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it must be like trying to count buckets of

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<v Speaker 1>in the museum and they look different, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what's really important here is that we have

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<v Speaker 2>are known to science, that other entomologists have described, they've

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<v Speaker 2>is these natural history museums are like libraries of life,

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<v Speaker 2>the posts to other researchers. And this is actually getting

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<v Speaker 2>with other scientists. And it's my job as an entomologist

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<v Speaker 2>to build upon our knowledge of our sex and helped

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<v Speaker 2>discover and name these species that are nu just science,

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<v Speaker 2>but also find out why they're different and how we

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<v Speaker 2>a country and might have some really important biosecurity impact

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<v Speaker 2>to that country too. So naming a species is the

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise we wouldn't know what we would call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Does RuPaul know that you named a fly after her?

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<v Speaker 2>They do, definitely. RuPaul hasn't emailed me or talked to

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<v Speaker 2>me directly. He did retweet the RuPaul fly that I

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<v Speaker 2>actually named after him last year, and that's the closest

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten to him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I mean so exciting. Also, I wasn't sure what

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<v Speaker 1>RuPaul's pronouns were, and I was like, shoot, I got

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<v Speaker 1>me she, you can call me read justs and Kathy Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care just as long as you call me me. However,

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<v Speaker 1>right now you might be calling him egregious and Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>Lee after some hurtful actions a few years back, excluding

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<v Speaker 1>trans women from his show Drag Race, but he later

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<v Speaker 1>hurt I have caused. The trans community are heroes of

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<v Speaker 1>our shared LGBTQ movement. You are my teachers. And for

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<v Speaker 1>Brie the fly guy, he wanted a fly that represented

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<v Speaker 1>the rainbow and a nod toward pride. And we chatted

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<v Speaker 1>we stopped recording, and I was like kah and I

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a great follow up note that read quote,

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit hesitant to come out publicly, thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>see a play for themselves in the STEM workforce, he wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope the next generation can feel more comfortable bringing

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<v Speaker 1>world through awesome science. But I do recognize that I

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<v Speaker 1>where I can be my true self, and that this

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<v Speaker 1>that will hopefully change for the better. Quote. So queer Scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy pride, keep being you, whether you're in or out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can check out five hundred Queer Scientists too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great website. Can you tell me when you

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<v Speaker 1>are choosing who to honor with a fly species, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, so lucky, what an honor? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your process? And are you struck by the colors or

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<v Speaker 1>the form or the moxie? And tell me also some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that you have named flies after?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most creative time you can have as

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<v Speaker 2>a taxonomist is definitely when you get to name a species.

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<v Speaker 2>But first you have to do all your science vigorously

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<v Speaker 2>and thoroughly. First you've got to be sure it's a

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<v Speaker 2>that it was wearing the rainbow flag. It was this

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous metallic red blues, turquoise, yellows, purples, So I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that was the defining feature of this species. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other unique feature of this species is that it had

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<v Speaker 2>this thorn like cook under its abdomen. It was tucked

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<v Speaker 2>under the abdomen actually, and I thought, wow, that's so unique.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was watching a lot of RuPaul's drag

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<v Speaker 2>race at the time as well, so I think subconsciously

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<v Speaker 2>it was imprinting on me that I need to name

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<v Speaker 2>this species up to roupall as well. So it became

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<v Speaker 2>Opal Luma RuPaul, the glamazon fly of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>What was interesting is that he was doing some press

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<v Speaker 2>Show and Ellen flashed up an image of his new species.

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<v Speaker 1>You're such an icon. There is a fly named after you.

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<v Speaker 1>A scientist named a beautiful, brightly colored fly. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have a picture of it, and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rue Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only thing he said was thanks a lot science,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that's it. I spent like a

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<v Speaker 2>what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's such an indelible mark that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a species that is forever named after you. When people

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<v Speaker 1>long forget the entertainment. You did like that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is a permanence in terms of your place on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Species names lost fraternity, so you've got to get it right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting because the Graham Norton Show produced this

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<v Speaker 2>could bring up when RuPaul was on the show this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I made sure to give him some science, some

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<v Speaker 2>science that catched about it. And I said it had

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<v Speaker 2>legs for days at the gorgeous rainbow species, and it

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<v Speaker 2>had a thorn tucked under its abdomen. And then Ruport said,

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<v Speaker 2>the upper luma RuPaul has a fierce look, legs for

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<v Speaker 2>days and a distinctive thorn tucked under its abdomen. True,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a little bit better acknowledgment of the fly.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. Yeah. Out of the fifty species I've named,

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<v Speaker 2>the RuPaul fly was my fiftieth species, and the first

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<v Speaker 2>fly that I ever named was always has a place

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart. I was listening to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this artist while looking at the type specimens under the microscope.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to her music while I was describing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It had a bright golden abdomen. There were only three

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<v Speaker 2>specimens ever collected, the same number of the girl groups

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<v Speaker 2>that she used to be in, and was also collected

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<v Speaker 2>in the year that she was born. So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Gorgeous. I have seen pictures and yes, absolutely stunning. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know if this queen Beee knows of her fly?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she might. A lot of her fans were like,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, it's a fly with a beehive, it should

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<v Speaker 2>be a bee. Unfortunate study bees.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, flies are cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, way cooler. Hey, bees get all the credit for pollination,

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<v Speaker 2>but do you know that even the blowflies can carry

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<v Speaker 2>farmers of mangoes, avocados and other agriculturally important care have

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<v Speaker 2>stinky stuff. But while they do that, they're out there

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<v Speaker 2>drinking the nectar from all the orchards and helping pollinate

419
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<v Speaker 2>and increase the fruit rate. So how cool is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we have them to thank for so much

422
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<v Speaker 1>of what we eat. And meanwhile, European honeybees, which are

423
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<v Speaker 1>not even endemic to the United States, are getting all

424
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<v Speaker 1>of the love on churios, boxes and stuff like that,

425
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<v Speaker 1>which is just lies. It's apocryphal, it's not right. So I,

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<v Speaker 1>for one starting to gravitate towards Team fly. Here. Pretty

427
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<v Speaker 1>hardcore flies are winning my heart right now. Don't believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>You can dust your furry butts into a twenty twenty

429
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<v Speaker 1>study titled non beat Insects as Visitors and Pollinators of Crops,

430
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<v Speaker 1>which notes that flies visited seventy two two percent of

431
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<v Speaker 1>the crops that bees did, Thank you very much, and

432
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<v Speaker 1>that the family of Serifidae aka hoverflies, are on it.

433
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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones in your garden who sometimes look like

434
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<v Speaker 1>a fly cause playing as a bee. But they have

435
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<v Speaker 1>the most flexy wings of any flying insects. They hang

436
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<v Speaker 1>out in mid air hoverflying by twisting their wings three

437
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<v Speaker 1>hundred times a second, three hundred times a second at

438
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<v Speaker 1>forty five degree angles. Now, another great Diptera pollinator family

439
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<v Speaker 1>is the Kilifera dye, which are blowflies or bottleflies, which

440
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<v Speaker 1>are considered filth flies. Excuse me, filth flies? How dare they?

441
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Yes, they eat shit and rotting bodies, but

442
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<v Speaker 1>they like flowers too, okay, especially the ones that have

443
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<v Speaker 1>evolved to smell like shit and rotting bodies. They are

444
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<v Speaker 1>multi dimensional animals. More on them in a bit. But

445
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<v Speaker 1>not all flies want rotting bodies. Some don't eat bodies

446
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<v Speaker 1>at all, and some prefer to feast on alive, juicy

447
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<v Speaker 1>bodies like yours. Speaking of badges, have you ever gotten

448
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<v Speaker 1>a butt fly? What does it mean to you?

449
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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My god, it's kind of a badge of honor

450
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<v Speaker 2>for a diptrologist studying flies. They want to get bitten

451
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<v Speaker 2>by these buttflies. And there's one hundred and eighty species

452
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<v Speaker 2>of botflies in the world, but in Australia there aren't

453
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<v Speaker 2>that many, and I think there's only one species that

454
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<v Speaker 2>might actually bite kangaroos. So I haven't ever come across

455
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<v Speaker 2>a botfly, but I know one of our mutual colleagues

456
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<v Speaker 2>has phil torres. Yes, yeah, I think he got a bit.

457
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<v Speaker 2>It was a Costa Rica or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he maybe was in Peru. I'm not sure,

459
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<v Speaker 1>but the year was twenty nineteen. Entomologist and lepidopterology butterfly

460
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<v Speaker 1>guest Phil Torres tweeted quote one of my mosquito bites

461
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<v Speaker 1>from Peru keeps tingling and this is me prayer hands

462
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<v Speaker 1>emoji that I finally got a buttfly. Phil documented his

463
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<v Speaker 1>pregnance fly on his YouTube channel, The Jungle Die.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a botfly maggot living in my back right now,

465
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<v Speaker 4>feeding on my flesh. If you saw my alass video,

466
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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm talking about. But if you didn't,

467
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<v Speaker 4>let me just catch you up real quick. It is

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<v Speaker 4>a maggot. It is alive, It is feeding on me.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in my back. It is really gross, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is also really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>And inside an inflamed and separating mound on Phil's back,

472
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<v Speaker 1>a flesh hitting maggot baby twisted and bucked, causing him

473
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<v Speaker 1>some searing pains, although for some hosts apparently it's a

474
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<v Speaker 1>rather smooth experience thanks to the natural painkillers and antibiotics

475
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the botfly larvae makes to keep you happy hosting. It

476
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<v Speaker 1>is there any for the food and the childcare. They

477
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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be a nuisance, they don't want to

478
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<v Speaker 1>cause trouble. They just want to lap up your nutrients.

479
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<v Speaker 1>And Phil has never posted the follow up video and

480
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<v Speaker 1>the conclusion of his experience, but I texted him and

481
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<v Speaker 1>friends he may be cutting it together and never before

482
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>seen updates on his YouTube. So google the Jungle Diaries

483
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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, subscribe, and cross your fingers toast that he

484
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<v Speaker 1>releases it. Because a botfly extraction is wild. I have

485
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>watched so many, so many. Do they put their egg

486
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>on a mosquito? Or how are they even laying an

487
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>egg in your skin to eat your flesh and erupt force?

488
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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how they're getting in there. I

489
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 1>have gone down rabbit holes watching botfly extractions, and I

490
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 1>find them very soothing and disgusting.

491
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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, right, It's like the entomology version of pimple popping.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love it. It's so gross. This tear drop

493
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 1>shape where when you think there can't be more botfly larvae,

494
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>this big, bouncy, rotund wink comes out of a hole

495
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in your flesh. Just disgusting. I mean, do they ever

496
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>bounce out of your skin? And then they pupate, but

497
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they just spin the larval stage in your flesh.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the lavel stage develops flesh because they actually

499
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>eat it. It's really gross and they don't want to

500
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<v Speaker 2>leave their food substrate. So what they've evolved are these

501
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>really hardcore, like fish hook like spines. They're absolutely covered

502
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>in them, and that's why they're so hard to remove

503
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>because as you pull them, they're lodged and they're not

504
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 2>coming out, so you sometimes need to get them surgically removed.

505
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<v Speaker 2>And what's crazy is that the larvae looks so vicious,

506
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>but the adults are so cute. They're just fat and

507
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>fuzzy and they look like teddy bears. But like you said,

508
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>they actually lay their eggs on mosquitoes, which is crazy.

509
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<v Speaker 2>I think they're like the sumo wrestlers of the fly world.

510
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>For these big, fat, buzzing flies, and they hunt down

511
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>mosquitoes and wrestle them. The female watfly will extend her

512
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<v Speaker 2>ovipositor to lay an egg on the foot of the mosquito.

513
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<v Speaker 2>So the female watfly doesn't actually lay the egg on

514
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<v Speaker 2>the victim. I guess you could call them the victim.

515
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

516
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>So the mosquito does her dirty work. So it'll fly

517
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<v Speaker 2>around land on your skin and the heat from your

518
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>skin will actually trigger the wotfly exit hatch, and then

519
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>it crawls out and then it starts burrowing in your skin,

520
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and then over the weeks and months, it turns into

521
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<v Speaker 2>this thick fish hook larvae that is just eating your flesh.

522
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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of gross.

523
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<v Speaker 1>Does it stick its little buttthole out too, and just

524
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 1>like like just the metabolites from your body. I understand

525
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<v Speaker 1>that what you're looking, you're staring down the barrel of

526
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the business end of a maggot when you have a buttfly,

527
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<v Speaker 1>which is just what a world, what a beautiful, wonderful world,

528
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:49.039
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Head down, butt up. They actually have spiracles in their

530
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<v Speaker 2>bomb as well, which are the portals for breathing. The

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<v Speaker 2>head with their mouth is on the other side that's

532
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>very deep in and they stick their butt up in

533
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the air and that's what they breathe in. So they

534
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>breathe from their butts. That's what they don't drown in

535
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever they're eating, like your skin and the flesh.

536
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 1>What a life cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>But normal flies of gross, some are really cute as well,

538
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>like the adult butt fly is really cute, and I

539
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>encourage you to look at them on a search engine.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I search engine this, and it's true. Some of

541
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 1>them look like furry little potatoes with giant eyes, but

542
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<v Speaker 1>not Dermatobia hominis, which specialize in human hosts in Central

543
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and South America, and many entomologists consider nurturing one in

544
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 1>their body a rite of passage and kind of like

545
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<v Speaker 1>a five to twelve week pregnancy until they're chubby. Half

546
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 1>your pinky size maggot squirms its way out and wriggles

547
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 1>into some nearby soil for two or three weeks, where

548
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it undergoes a makeover from a hardened dark sarcophagus to

549
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a stocky fly stunner that has a metallic blue ass

550
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>as shiny as a Nissan hatchback and big red eyes

551
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that look like two boxing gloves. Ough, and it's made

552
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 1>of you. What about life cycles of flies in general,

553
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>because you've mentioned maggots before, we think of flies, we

554
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 1>think of maggots. But is there a commonality when it

555
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to life cycles for flies or is it just

556
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 1>like all over the fucking place.

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00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Ah? Yeah, they generally share the same faces or stages

558
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>of the development so they'll obviously start out as an

559
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>egg and this will generally hatch into several different stages

560
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of larvae, or we call in stars, and it depends

561
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>on the family. Blowflies have three in stars where others

562
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 2>have more. And then when they're larvae, they really just

563
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>want to eat as much as they can, put on

564
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>as much fat as they can because when they enter pupation,

565
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>this fat is the energy that they need to go

566
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<v Speaker 2>onto that amazing process called metamorphosis and come out as

567
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>an adult. And what's really interesting is some flies, like

568
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the black souldier fly, don't eat very much when they're adults,

569
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<v Speaker 2>so they're relying on the baby fat that they've accumulated

570
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<v Speaker 2>to get them through adulthood. And some of these adults

571
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<v Speaker 2>only last for eight days. So they hatch, they have

572
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>only one thing on their mind, and that's to find

573
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<v Speaker 2>a lover and make some babies to continue the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>My heavens, boy, hobby, I just I love the idea

575
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of a fly emerging from its pupil casing, being like

576
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I wish to take a lover. And with Musca domestica

577
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the house flies that you love, the female typically just

578
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>takes one lover and then she clutches onto that one

579
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>fateful jizload in her body for the rest of her life,

580
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>going on to bear two thousand of his maggotty babies,

581
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 1>which actually get laid his eggs and then they hatch

582
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<v Speaker 1>into maggots and sometimes just a day. So how long

583
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 1>will the adults live though? Just a single blissful month

584
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 1>unless time if it's cold out and other so called

585
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>filth flies include blowflies, bottleflies, which aren't houseflies, but they're

586
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>slightly larger, and they're bright green and blue metallic buzzers.

587
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 1>They love poop, they love death, and unlike houseflies, they

588
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>live longer in colder weather. They can live six months

589
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>in the winter, but about three sweaty months if they

590
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>were born under Gemini skies. But why do some flies

591
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>look like enameled metal? Brian says that some insects and flies,

592
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like the metallic rainbow roupallfly look metallic not because of

593
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a colored pigment, but because they have structural pigment, these

594
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 1>microscopic ridges and transparent layers that split the light into

595
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 1>metallic colors, he says, kind of like a CD or

596
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<v Speaker 1>a DBD. And he told me that scientists think that

597
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the shine attracts mates and might even aid in camouflage,

598
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<v Speaker 1>he said. Quote think of a metallic green fly hiding

599
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 1>next to a reflective water drop on a leaf, which

600
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is honestly, very very cute and very refreshing sounding. And

601
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<v Speaker 1>just like so many things on earth and in our lives,

602
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that fly shimmer makes other flies want to do the nasty.

603
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of nasty, let's keep talking filth flies. Have

604
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<v Speaker 1>you ever had those round winged babies that fly out

605
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<v Speaker 1>of your drain? Okay, those are called drain flies. They

606
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>live in there and they eat garbage in your pipes.

607
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that you should kill any of them,

608
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but pouring boiling hot water into your drains a few

609
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>times over a few days, we'll make them not exist.

610
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<v Speaker 1>This is your choice, though. And fruitflies are amber colored,

611
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>usually with red eyes. They live one to two weeks

612
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in your kitchen, just enjoying that soupy, mature fruit you

613
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>forgot you bought. And if you don't want them around,

614
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>one fix is just to not let your counterfruit get soupy,

615
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>or beg your roommates or your office mates not to

616
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<v Speaker 1>More options on them later in the episode. Now, gnats

617
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>are not fruit flies. I just found out they're totally different.

618
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<v Speaker 1>Diptera nats tend to live outside, and sometimes a swarm

619
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<v Speaker 1>of them will find your sticky lip gloss, and then

620
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 1>it's up to you if you want to eat them

621
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<v Speaker 1>like a whale and Joy's krill. Now, do you have

622
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<v Speaker 1>any tiny flies that emerge from your potted plants? Those

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<v Speaker 1>are probably fungus nets, and there are remedies ranging from

624
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>soaking your potting soil with hydrogen peroxide to adding a

625
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>layer of sand on top. But I'm bad at plants.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Don't look at me.

627
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Now.

628
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<v Speaker 1>All of these things live in your house and they

629
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<v Speaker 1>are flies, But only one is the poster maggot for flies,

630
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<v Speaker 1>and it's the house fly. And what about house flies?

631
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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is the species of fly that

632
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<v Speaker 1>we are most accustomed to. Are they just so successful

633
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that there's more of them around? Are they just perfectly

634
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 1>suited to come into your house and sit on a sandwich?

635
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Are they barfing on your sandwich before they're eating it?

636
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Are their feet covered? And shit? Make me not hate

637
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 1>them so much? If possible, they will, And I know

638
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not fair. They're just successful.

639
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not fair. They've just evolved. To be amazing. It's

640
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>spreading all over the world, and you know they're just

641
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>curious about what we do and the jealous of the

642
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>amazing food we eat. That's all. Okay. A redeemable fact

643
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>about house flies, Well, did you know that they're not

644
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>just blowing vomit bubbles to be cute disgusting. They are

645
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 2>actually blowing vomit bubbles to regulate their own body temperature.

646
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>So if they're really hot, flies, like most insects, are ectothermic,

647
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>so they can't actually regulate their body temperature, and it

648
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>depends on the ambient temperature. So if they're overheating, they'll

649
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>actually regurgitate a little bit of what they're they've eaten,

650
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>put on the tip of their proposss, let it evaporate,

651
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, cool off, and they slop it back up

652
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and then that cools them down. So I think that's

653
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of a cool thing that a house fly does.

654
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 1>That's great. I love it. For more on how animals

655
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>regulate their temperatures, see the thermophysiology episode with doctor Shane

656
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<v Speaker 1>Campbell Staton. Oh, and another cute thing that flies do

657
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 1>for us, they're used metica to help clean open wounds

658
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because maggots like dead flesh, so they clean years out. Yay. Thanks.

659
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>House Flies are actually really important pollinators too, believe it

660
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<v Speaker 2>or not. So some of the research I was doing

661
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<v Speaker 2>in the Alpine zone in Costiosco National Park, which is

662
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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest national parks in Australia, was looking

663
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<v Speaker 2>at the flies and what they actually pollinate. And this

664
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<v Speaker 2>is with my colleagues at CSRO, which is Australia's National

665
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<v Speaker 2>Science Agency. And what we did we collected a bunch

666
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>of flies and we made a little insects smoothie. So

667
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>we put the insects in an Eppendorf tube and blended

668
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it all up and that released all the pollen that

669
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<v Speaker 2>was attached to the fly. When the fly goes from

670
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 2>one flower to the other drinking nectar, it gets doused

671
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in pollen, it sticks to the hair and then when

672
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it goes from flower to flower it helps pollinate. And

673
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<v Speaker 2>so we were able to use these insectsmoothies to sequence

674
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<v Speaker 2>the DNA of the pollen grains and weun that even

675
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<v Speaker 2>the pesky bushfly that's related to the house fly can

676
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>pollinate up to fifteen different varieties of native plants. So yes,

677
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>we hate bushflies. And house flies. But they're out there

678
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 2>doing this amazing job in nature, free of charge, helping

679
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>to pollinate our native plants. So we should cut them

680
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>some slack.

681
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<v Speaker 1>I guess they do deserve some slack they do. What

682
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>about their feet? Do they taste with their feet? Are

683
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>they covered in shit all the time?

684
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, they have happy feet, because yes, they do taste

685
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>from their feet. They're impatient. Instead of waiting to get

686
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the food in their mouth and like, you know, taste

687
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it that way like we would. They like to stand

688
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>in whatever they're eating and it's yes, no, do I

689
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>eat it? Do I not? And so what they do

690
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>is if it tastes good, that's when they'll drop their probosis,

691
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>their mouth part that has a sponge at the end

692
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that SAPs up all the liquid. And they actually do

693
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 2>eat shit because shit is high in protein and other

694
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>nutrients and electrolytes as well. But this is where the

695
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of nasty side of house flies comes into it,

696
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>because if they're landing on shit with pathogens, those pathogens

697
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 2>can get stuck to their feet, and that's when they

698
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>fly inside and land on your food and spread those

699
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 2>pathogens that could potentially make you sick. So That's why

700
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>it's best to always cover your food, especially if you're

701
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>having a barbecue outside, and make sure these flies don't

702
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>actually land on it. And the other thing is closed

703
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the doors in summer. Always take out your rubbish pretty

704
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 2>regularly because you don't want to encourage house flies to

705
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>come inside. For these reasons, flies, madam, Yes, close the window.

706
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<v Speaker 1>Are they smelling your garbage too? Are they like, smells

707
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 1>a little rotten in there? My baby's a gonna love it.

708
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely, especially female blowflies.

709
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<v Speaker 1>What pathogens? Is it possible they can spread? And I

710
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like we see a fly and we're like, oh,

711
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>if it lands on my sandwich, I'm going to get

712
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 1>an ebola and die. But what pathogens do they actually hear?

713
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Is it fewer or more than we think?

714
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, we're just scratching the surface at the moment.

715
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>So with advances in microbiome analysis, I've got some colleagues

716
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 2>that are actually grinding up the flies and sequencing everything

717
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>that's in that body, all the microbes, pathogens, and parasites

718
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>as well. So we're just getting into it. But horseflies,

719
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 2>sometimes called march flies, they have been in the past

720
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>known to transfer anthrax, even though it's super rare and

721
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>in such low doses where it's not going to be

722
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the next outbreak, but it's definitely something we're just discovering

723
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>about these insects.

724
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I wants all to respect flies, but I'm not

725
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>flies overworked high profile publicist or lawyer. Okay, I'm not

726
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Pope swooping in in a white coat to be

727
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>like it's handled. So I'm going to give you the

728
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 1>dirt on this. I'm going to talk a little bit

729
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of shit on flies for a second. According to Penn

730
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 1>States and homology data on Musca domestica, which is the housefly,

731
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<v Speaker 1>they are a quote strongly suspected of transmitting at least

732
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 1>sixty five diseases to humans, including typhoid, fever, dysentery, cholera, polio, yaws, anthrax, leprosy, tuberculosis,

733
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>helminth eggs, protozoasis, and other bacteria, fungi, and viruses by

734
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.599
<v Speaker 1>the mechanical transmission through its vomits or excreta end quote.

735
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<v Speaker 1>So maybe you would not hurt a fly, but if

736
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>you would just know that they can sense movements and

737
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>air currents before your rolled up newspaper even gets close,

738
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.079
<v Speaker 1>which is why you want a fly swater that has

739
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of holes in it or is mesh because

740
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't send such a wave of air to warn them.

741
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry houseflies, you know what, Let's change one letter.

742
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's settle up for horseflies, which flies bite because you

743
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 1>say horseflies, and I think about those big, huge, buzzing

744
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 1>horseflies and you're like, oh, why do they even have

745
00:42:58.280 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 1>a mouth that can bite anything.

746
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's only the female horsepy that bites because

747
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>she needs the protein in your blood to ripen her eggs,

748
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>and without it, she won't have any viable eggs and

749
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 2>they can't, you know, continue their lineage. So the males

750
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>and some females from some species a completely vegetarian and

751
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>only eat nectar and pollen. But horsefly bites are particularly

752
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 2>painful because she has these saw blade like structures called

753
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 2>stylets that run parallel to her probosis. And instead of

754
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>a mosquito that has a needle like probosis that just

755
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 2>slips in your skin and slurps it up, the horsefly

756
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>will actually land and use these two saw blades to

757
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 2>rip through your skin, and she's just soaring through your

758
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 2>flesh to expose as much blood and make it spill

759
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>as much as she can, and that's why it's so

760
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 2>painful to get bit by horsefly.

761
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know what, knowing that makes me feel

762
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>better weirdly, because I'm like, that's pretty metal.

763
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, it gets worse. She'll also spit in the

764
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>lesions she creates because her saliva has anticoagulant properties and

765
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>blood thinning properties, so this stops the platelets and your

766
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 2>blood from coagulating, so they flow more freely, so she

767
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 2>can just slurp it up with a spongy mouthpart and

768
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>get as much blood in her as she can.

769
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I love blood, and this assumed like, is this kind

770
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 1>of how mosquitoes evolve too. They just evolved a different

771
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>mouth mechanism to just cut straight to the chase.

772
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so mosquitoes are much more delicate. You've ever hit

773
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 2>a mosquito, They just disintegrate on your hands then turn

774
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>into like a great puff. So mosquitoes have evolved to

775
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit more sly, the kind of the

776
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 2>stealth team of the insect world. So the female mosquita

777
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>will land on you, and it's always after the fact

778
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that we notice that we've been bitten. When it starts

779
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>to react to get itchy. So she'll land on our skin,

780
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 2>slide her needle probosis into our flesh, and she also

781
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 2>spits a little bit of saliva and anticoagulant chemicals into

782
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 2>our skin to make it flow better as well, and

783
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>then she'll fly off. And what's interesting is because she

784
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 2>spits into our skin, this is where people start getting

785
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>allergic to these bites, and that's when it will starts swelling.

786
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And a couple of minutes after she's bit that's where

787
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 2>we notice we've actually been visited by a mosquito.

788
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Visit it is such a sweet and mystical way to

789
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>put it, so generous of you, dude.

790
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, but mosquitoes are the biggest vectors of serious

791
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>diseases like malaria that cause the death of millions of

792
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>people in the world. But it's not actually the female

793
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>mosquito that is the killer. It's actually the parasites and

794
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>microbes that hitches a ride in her belly and in

795
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>her salivo that she transmits. So I guess, yeah, mosquitoes

796
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 2>have a role in disease transmission, but they're not the killers.

797
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 1>They need their own episodes because honestly, They're just moms

798
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>out there. They're trying to feed their kids. They've been

799
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>framed for all the malaria stuff, like someone planted pathogens

800
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in them. Okay, so calisidology, mosquitoes, watch the space, We're

801
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Flies in the media. How do you

802
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 1>feel about the fly? Those weird hairs that were growing

803
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>out of your back?

804
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>And I haven't analyzed, but they were definitely not humans.

805
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the fly? Did it make you want

806
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to be a dipterroologist more or less?

807
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Bloody? Jeff Golbum? I swear I think you've done more

808
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to hurt flies and get people. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. I

809
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 2>watched as kid. I think I might've been around ten,

810
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was scary. It was like a

811
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>horror movie and it was just disgusting where it starts

812
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 2>vomiting on everything. And for Genia Davis what she had

813
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to go through that.

814
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Would you ever name a fly after Jeff Goblum or

815
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Gina Davis?

816
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what? There probably is a Jeff Golbin

817
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>fly somewhere out there that maybe doesn't vomit on his

818
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 2>food so much, but maybe he's out there pollinating flowers

819
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 2>or composting our garden. Who don't know. Oh my gosh,

820
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 2>that's the problem with the media, Like we've kind of

821
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 2>perpetuated this negative image of flies, when actually they're the

822
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 2>heroes of our nature, like they pollinate their recycled nutrients,

823
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>they're really important in the food web, and we've kind

824
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of demonized them. So that's why it's really important to

825
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 2>talk about it and change people's perceptions. And if I

826
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 2>could get people on board with flies, it would be

827
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>with this one fact. Without flies, there would be no chocolate.

828
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>What really, Yeah, that's because the cocoa plant is pollinated

829
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<v Speaker 2>by these tiny little midge fliers from the family Sarah Pagernady,

830
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<v Speaker 2>And they're the only thing small enough to crawl through

831
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<v Speaker 2>the cocoa flower and pollinate it. And if we didn't

832
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<v Speaker 2>have them, the most important pollinators of these plants, we

833
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have chocolates. So be careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, ah MVPs, thank you midge flies. Teen teen

835
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>tiny flies, We love you. I think that they're beautiful too.

836
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 1>It seems like when you look at them up close,

837
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 1>you start to really appreciate the architecture and the color

838
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>palette of flies. Would you say that as someone who's

839
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>looked through a lot of microscopes at them?

840
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:31.280
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And I didn't know how beautiful flies

841
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>were and until I started putting them onto the microscope

842
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and studying them, and that's when I had my journey

843
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>of hating flies to appreciating their beauty as well. Blowflies, horseflies. Oh,

844
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>there are some horse flies that actually mimic bees and

845
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>look like fairy bees. And that's so when they're out

846
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 2>on a flower, birds won't eat them because they're expecting

847
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to get stung. Where the joke's on the bird because

848
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>they didn't actually have stingers. Flies. So I encourage you

849
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 2>to just if you see a fly in the garden

850
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 2>next time, don't show it away, but you know, take

851
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a photo and maybe start a digital collection and appreciate

852
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 2>their inner beauty. And I've got a ton of images

853
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 2>of gorgeous flies on my social media channels that you

854
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 2>should check out.

855
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've seen them and they're so beautiful. Do you

856
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>have a recommendation if someone wanted to get into microscopy

857
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and just instead of staring at their phone and social

858
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 1>media that's not yours, that just getting a microscope for

859
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 1>home use for fun. Do you have any recommendations for

860
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like what power of microscope are like for a total

861
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>beginner and dilettante who just wants to look at dead bugs?

862
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Any recommendations.

863
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you don't want to get a full blown

864
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>microscope and you just kind of want to test the waters,

865
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:50.679
<v Speaker 2>a really gateway entry point for microscopy is you can

866
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>get these beautiful macro lens attachments for your smartphone and

867
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>they have you know, maybe three or four times magnification

868
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 2>on them, and you just pop your phone over the

869
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 2>specimen and you can take photos of these speeches too.

870
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do a dipterroologist to favor? You

871
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>can also help scientists by uploading those photos to community

872
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>science apps, for example.

873
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I Naturalists, but also have identification features and they

874
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 2>can give you a percentage accuracy hit to what binaturalists

875
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 2>actually thinks that species is.

876
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Can I do a lightning round of Patreon questions from listeners?

877
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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

878
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<v Speaker 1>Please on my website linked in the show notes. I'll

879
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>include some macro lens guides and definitely check out the

880
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Periology episode with Joseph Saunders, which is literally all about

881
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 1>macro photography with insects it's so good. But before we

882
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 1>get to your questions, let's DiPT a toe in the

883
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 1>waters of charity. Let's send some money toward a cause

884
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<v Speaker 1>of the ologists choosing I'm sorry that was the worst.

885
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't even a good punt at all. I don't

886
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<v Speaker 1>know why, said, but Brian selected the World Wildlife Federation WWF,

887
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and Brian says they are championing global action to protect

888
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 1>our delicate biodiverse, especially after Australia was hit by the

889
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>devastating bushfires that impacted so many native species there. So

890
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 1>for more on what they do, check out WWF dot org.

891
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So thank you sponsors for the money that we send

892
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 1>their way. Okay, let's blow through your fly questions. Are

893
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 1>you ready ready hit me? Okay? All right? Great questions

894
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:24.559
<v Speaker 1>from Theodore at Visian, Wendy Westerduin, Alex Rtman, Emily Webb,

895
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 1>David Ruscalata Gomez, Emily first time question asker. They want

896
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 1>to know, in Emily's words, why do they come into

897
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a room and then fly in circles instead of leaving

898
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the way they came. Wendy wants to know why does

899
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it fly in triangles then sometimes in squares? What's their

900
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>flight pattern, Like.

901
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really awesome question. It really depends on the spaces,

902
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>because some fly researchers are actually studying the different flight

903
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:54.480
<v Speaker 2>patterns of different spaces, and some are triangular, some are square,

904
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and some just sort of complete mess. They look like

905
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:03.840
<v Speaker 2>drunken little pilots going everywhere. But they definitely fly indoors

906
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>if you've got the light on, because they're atracted to

907
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 2>the light and sometimes they get stuck there. And I've

908
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 2>noticed on really hot days if I've left my door

909
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 2>open or even the porch, you can see them under

910
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 2>the porch and they think it's a tree canopy and

911
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 2>they're flying around with their friends. And what they're doing

912
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>is they're actually dancing. They're courtship dancing. So generally it's

913
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the males that dance. Why the females are perched on

914
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 2>a leaf looking for the best dancer, so she'll come

915
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 2>up and pick the best dancer and choose him to

916
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>mate with. So it pays to have sick dance moves

917
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>if you're a fly.

918
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. And is that what's kind of happening

919
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in their flight pattern or is there also a strategy

920
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>for maybe discouraging them from coming into your doorway.

921
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I think they just get trapped inside. And I think

922
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the flight pattern species specific, and it might be a

923
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>courtship dance as well, So there's a specific pattern they

924
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>might use to attract female flies. These well dancing nlesh

925
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 2>so sexy.

926
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Elena Horne, Cassafrass Melinda Jenkins and first time question asker

927
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Emily Layfield. In Emily's words, want to know and this

928
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is maybe not the most fly friendly question, but you'll

929
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>change our minds. Emily wants to why do flies seem

930
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 1>to have an exponentially more annoying and loud buzz than

931
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>any other insect I've run across. What's making the buzzing sound?

932
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

933
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 1>They're wings? So that's in Emily's words, So why are

934
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they loud? And how can we embrace the loudness?

935
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.599
<v Speaker 2>They are loud, but they're not the loudest of all insects.

936
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I think we just noticed them because they're a bit

937
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 2>more curious and come to us sometimes. Well, it's definitely

938
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the wings, especially the big, fat, juicy flies like lowflies.

939
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 2>You'll hear them because they beat their wings so strongly.

940
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 2>But I remember collecting in the flower patches of New Zealand,

941
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And it was actually the bumblebees that drove me crazy

942
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>because I tuned into my ears to tell the different

943
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 2>types of flies apart because they all have a different buzz,

944
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 2>so I can collect them. But then these bloody, droney

945
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 2>bumblebees would come in and just drown out the sound.

946
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think flies are the most annoying insects.

947
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Bumble Bees are much louder.

948
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 1>How are you collecting them? Are you using one of

949
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>those aspirators where you have to suck it up in

950
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a tube?

951
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely use an aspirator or a pewter that

952
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:38.719
<v Speaker 2>they're affectionately called too. But my favorite collecting method is

953
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.280
<v Speaker 2>using my trusty insect net that looks like a butterfly net.

954
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Most people think that's really good at catching flies buzzing

955
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>around in the air. And I remember collecting at this

956
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 2>water hole where all the tourists were swimming and they're like, mate, mate,

957
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 2>come here, you must be here to collect the brown snake,

958
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm no, I don't want to touch the snake.

959
00:54:57.639 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to collect your flies.

960
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I love it. You do have to carry a lot

961
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:05.519
<v Speaker 1>less back to the lab. I imagine that your fly

962
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 1>samples can fit just in like a tackle box.

963
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the flies are much smaller so they don't take

964
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>up that much space. But we also use malaise traps

965
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>that look like tents, and what happens is the flies

966
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 2>fly into the tent and then they work their way

967
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 2>up into this bottle of ethanol that we have at

968
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the top, and they get preserved in that bottle. So

969
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 2>what's really cool is we can take them back into

970
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the lab and the ethanol preserves the DNA, which is

971
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 2>cool because then we can extract the DNA and sequence

972
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 2>its genetic fingerprint to confirm that it's a new species.

973
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 2>And we use this all the time in entomology.

974
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, it's.

975
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Really cool because you could go to like really remote

976
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>places like rainforests and put these traps up and they

977
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 2>do the collecting for you and you can find some

978
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:54.639
<v Speaker 2>really nice surprises in there afterwards.

979
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.559
<v Speaker 1>I know they do that in Los Angeles and they've

980
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.880
<v Speaker 1>found new species of flies in Los Angeles and flies

981
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.159
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't expect here. And it's so interesting too

982
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>because it just looks like a little pop up tent,

983
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, tiny, and that there's so much entomology being

984
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>done in something that's just like the size of a

985
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Starbucks cup.

986
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy, right, and especially putting them in

987
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 2>people's backyards. I think they found like seventy new spaces

988
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of forid flies in California using this method. It's just nuts.

989
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think Brian Brown is the dypterrologist I once

990
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.199
<v Speaker 1>chatted with at the NHM about that. They've got this

991
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>bioscan project where you could walk by in the nature

992
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.760
<v Speaker 1>lab at the NHM and there'd just be people entomologists

993
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.119
<v Speaker 1>sorting through whatever they found in the malaise traps and

994
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm watching new species be discovered.

995
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 2>So cool.

996
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>For more on this, you can check out the bio

997
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Scan project at my beloved Natural History Museum of Los

998
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Angeles County and doctor Brian V. Brown, who's also a

999
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 1>diptorist or a dypturologist, has discovered five hundred species of

1000
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 1>ford fly and counting, including the world's smallest known fly,

1001
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 1>which is a wee Brazilian species just two one hundreds

1002
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 1>of an inch long or a third of a millimeter,

1003
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.519
<v Speaker 1>which he named mega pro Pottyphoria Arnaldi. Brian Brown told

1004
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the press a few years ago quote as soon as

1005
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I saw these bulging legs, I knew I had to

1006
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 1>name this one after Arnold. He means Schwarzenecker, just saying

1007
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you want to discover species flies people. Also, in reading

1008
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>about Brian's work with forid flies, I just tripped headfirst

1009
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 1>into an article about the coffin fly, which is a

1010
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 1>velvety black fly that can dig several meters down through

1011
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 1>dirt and get into coffins. So please disregard all my

1012
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>previous statements about California condors or ravens or vampire squids

1013
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.920
<v Speaker 1>being the world's gothist creatures because I just don't think

1014
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it gets more death metal than a coffin fly. And

1015
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 1>also those forehead or humpback fly babies, they're also agents

1016
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 1>of just gladiatorial horrors.

1017
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>The humpback flies a bad us because some of the

1018
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 2>tiniest flies, I think some of them are smaller than

1019
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a grain of salt, and they eat ant heads. So

1020
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the larvae will actually crawl into the ant and eat

1021
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 2>all the muscular chure around the jaws, and then they'll

1022
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 2>emerge and burst out of the ant's head, kind of

1023
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 2>like alien. So tiny flies can be super powerful as well.

1024
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Flies are such mysteries, and they do have a lot

1025
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>on their mind, and they are plotting a lot. And

1026
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this can be evidenced by the way that they rub

1027
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.679
<v Speaker 1>their hands together. In Giselle Martinez's words, why do they

1028
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>rub their grubby little hands together every time they land

1029
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on my food? Why are they doing the evil little

1030
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.920
<v Speaker 1>hand rubbed thing. Lynn Reid wants to know. So what

1031
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 1>are they doing? Are they cleaning themselves? So many folks

1032
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 1>needed this info. I'm looking at you, patrons, Julia Hannah Frasier,

1033
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Margo Beka Christensen, marx Orbach, Jared Abrams, Micah Deelman, Allen

1034
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<v Speaker 1>orn Standforth, Alex Hrtman, and first time question. I we're

1035
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<v Speaker 1>gonna call Broader who said I never appreciated flies until

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<v Speaker 1>I saw one taking a moment for itself on my window.

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<v Speaker 1>Sell and it was caressing itself so slowly and meditatively

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<v Speaker 1>that it was really beautiful. I think it was giving

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<v Speaker 1>itself the equivalent of a fly spa day. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning their face? Are they cleaning their hands? What's happening there?

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because it looks like they're hatching a diabolical

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<v Speaker 2>plot to kill you. Really, yeah, they are just cleaning themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>especially their eyes because you know, they don't have eyelids

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<v Speaker 2>like us, they can't blink to get rid of any debris.

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<v Speaker 2>So they use their hands like little paws to like

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<v Speaker 2>clear the dust and the bits of sticks on their eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they rub their hands together and get them

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<v Speaker 2>off their hands. Because it's like if you ate, i

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like like a hot chocolate and it covered

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<v Speaker 2>your tongue, you'd want to like, you know, cleanse the palate.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they rub their hands together, they're technically cleansing

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<v Speaker 2>their palate because they taste with their feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they taste with their okay, normal cool, no islands,

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<v Speaker 1>got it? Actually, a lot of you, including Jacob Bowman, Penelote, Adkins,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah King, Ashley Curtains Or a young theater of vocen

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<v Speaker 1>Reng Groves, and first time question asker Kate Waters and

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Kenley needed to know. What about their eyes though?

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<v Speaker 1>How well do they see?

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<v Speaker 2>Amazingly well? So their eyes are compound eyes, so instead

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<v Speaker 2>of having you know, one lens per eye like us

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<v Speaker 2>that we can focus, they actually have up to six

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<v Speaker 2>thousand mini lenses called omitidia. And what happens is that

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<v Speaker 2>the brain stitches all these more basic images together into

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<v Speaker 2>this one image, and that's why they are so quick,

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<v Speaker 2>because they can pretty much slow down time essentially. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how they see, so they can see your hands swatting

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<v Speaker 2>from miles away and then they can react. And what's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool is some species have rudimentary eye spots above

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<v Speaker 2>their big eyes, called selly and what these are. They

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<v Speaker 2>look like three little dots in a triangle, and these

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<v Speaker 2>actually can monitor different light levels. So when they're flying

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<v Speaker 2>in rainforests when the sun comes out, they know where

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<v Speaker 2>to go, and they can also orientate themselves a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. So they have all this amazing sensory equipment

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<v Speaker 2>in their head that is just incredible that we just

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea about and we dismiss them. But flies

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<v Speaker 2>are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What about fruitflies in science too? A bunch of listeners

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know how do you get rid of fruitflies?

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<v Speaker 1>But also why are fruitflies used in so much genetic research?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. And I think fruitflies have

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty percent of the genes in common with humans,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're really good models to test genetics. The impacts

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<v Speaker 2>of drugs on them, and even NASA have been using

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<v Speaker 2>fruitflies for decades. They've been setting them out into outer

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<v Speaker 2>space to see what the effects of gravity and radio

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<v Speaker 2>r on these fruitflies, using them as a model for humans.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why they use fruitflies is because you

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<v Speaker 2>can grow them like crazy in the lab. You can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can upscale them, so you've got plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of little little mini mice models. Essentially, it's a test on.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes fruitfly science lovers or experimenters out there. Mallory Skinner,

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Perryandre Lisa Saint, Kyli Chung, Lauren Legg and Popita Drosophilia.

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<v Speaker 1>Flies do do a service for humans and we thank

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<v Speaker 1>them for their sacrifice. And also thank you to patron

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<v Speaker 1>and scientist Paul Smith who asked why fly napp smelled

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<v Speaker 1>so good and made me google fly napp, which is

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<v Speaker 1>fly anesthesia Night night, Sorry flies. Thank you now. Fruitfly haters,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you, Jesse Hurlbert, Mallory lb naw Me,

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<v Speaker 1>James Craig Collins, Celestisso and Sam Holmes. You may notice

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<v Speaker 1>why the fly guy did not answer your question about

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<v Speaker 1>committing dip terocide or getting rid of fruitflies, because this

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<v Speaker 1>man is not about to give you directions for fly murder.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you were to say, decant some apple cider

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01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.840
<v Speaker 1>or vinegar into a small bowl or cup, if you

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01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>happen to cover that with plastic grap and poked a

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<v Speaker 1>few holes, if they happen to go in there and

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01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>party and then drown in a bath of this delicious liquid,

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<v Speaker 1>well then that is their own choice. You can also

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<v Speaker 1>just get rid of the soggy fruit in your house.

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01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.599
<v Speaker 1>That'll help too. If you want to hire an assassin,

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<v Speaker 1>you can listen to the Carnivorous Photo Biology episode about

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<v Speaker 1>meat eating plants and just invest in a sundew which

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<v Speaker 1>will sit on your windowsill and do this dirty work

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<v Speaker 1>for you. It's just a circle of life on your windowsill. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Brian. Okay, one more listener question, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going to appreciate it. Greg Collins, Laura Salisbury,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Allen, Elizabeth Hemenez, Baminik, Kendall Hargas. First time question

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<v Speaker 1>asker Patty S. They all want to know, in your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the cutest fly? Which flies are cute? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us which ones to look at?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, okay, oh okay, put on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many you should definitely check out the qt fly,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a cute little bay fly. There is this

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<v Speaker 2>ball of yellow fuzz with this little cute preposteris sticking

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<v Speaker 2>out and actually inspired the qutfly from Pokemon. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like that in real life, and you'd want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it as a pet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I did search engine the Pokemon cutifly Akaa

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<v Speaker 1>bumbalidii aka bee flies or humble flies, and yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>are cute and they do look humble, and they're named

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<v Speaker 1>after bumblebees, but they're flies. So if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>cosplay as qutifly, you're a human posing as a fly,

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<v Speaker 1>posing as a bee.

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<v Speaker 2>So definitely check that one out. It's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you keep flies as pets? Do people do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think? I'm sorry, I think you can. I think

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<v Speaker 2>people do without realizing in the compost soldier flies with

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01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 2>like leathery segmented worms that eat your compost. I've thought

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<v Speaker 2>about designing some like activities for teachers that they can

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01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 2>take in school to have their own mini livestock of

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01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:16.760
<v Speaker 2>black soldier flies, but I think it would be too

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<v Speaker 2>gross and stinky.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess whenever you see a house fly, just

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<v Speaker 1>think I have a pet fly for you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be eight days, maybe eight minutes. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the beauty of the mystery, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What about In all of this talk of what is

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<v Speaker 1>good about flies? I always have to ask this, what

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01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 1>sucks shit about flies? What do you hate about flies?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you hate about your research? What's the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing about being a dipterrologist? Is it having something eat

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<v Speaker 1>your flesh that's a baby? Like? What one sucks?

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<v Speaker 2>I think crawling into dead animals is top of my list.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was doing Crens against Homology, I remember stopping

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<v Speaker 2>at roadkill and there was this massive wombat that got

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01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 2>hit by a car and it was really sad because

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01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>one bats are so cute, but it was huge, And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember putting my gloves in and I crawled inside

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<v Speaker 2>that thing to pull out these larvae that I was

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<v Speaker 2>interested in to identify because I thought it might be

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<v Speaker 2>a new species. And yeah, it's amazing. Starting out of

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<v Speaker 2>friends and entomology lab feeding maggots smelling like death. I

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01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>remember returning to my lectures and no one wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>sit next to me because I smelled like and I

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01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.880
<v Speaker 2>couldn't smell anymore and everyone just moved away. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is how unfunded science is in generally,

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<v Speaker 2>But that could be its own podcast, are you right?

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<v Speaker 1>I love smelling like death and grants around the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>The perks must outweigh it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Definitely, like going to gorgeous places, going out in nature,

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01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.440
<v Speaker 2>making discoveries like that. That's what I'm passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your favorite thing about flies? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>respect the most about them? Where? How do they just

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<v Speaker 1>burrow into your heart a little?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I love that. Oh I hope it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>botfly borrow into my heart because I think we just

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<v Speaker 2>don't give wise enough credit. Like it just amazes me

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<v Speaker 2>how so we're so dismissive, but they do so much

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01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.719
<v Speaker 2>for us in part of our everyday life. They they

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01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 2>pollinate the hops that go in beer, They pollinate the

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01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.599
<v Speaker 2>grapes that we you know, make wine from. They give

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<v Speaker 2>us chocolate, the recycling nutrients, I said, like flies of

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<v Speaker 2>the original hipsters, because they only need organic and they

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01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 2>love to recycle and they do this for free, and

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<v Speaker 2>we just shit on them. And they're so important in

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<v Speaker 2>the ecosystem. Yeah, so it's just this light inside me

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01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 2>that needs to get out and shine and sing their

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01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:09.199
<v Speaker 2>praises because flies are so important and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>start respecting them before it's too late and they become

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<v Speaker 2>extinct through you know, climate change and deforestation. So now's

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<v Speaker 2>the time, so we can, you know, discover all those

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<v Speaker 2>species out there, name them and learn about them, what

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<v Speaker 2>roles they do on the ecosystem, and protect the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that need to help.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that this summer or winter, depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>you are, you might people might be inspired to go

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<v Speaker 1>get a macro lens for their phone and just start

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<v Speaker 1>looking at flies.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so because you honestly you don't know you

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01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.479
<v Speaker 2>could discover a species and you just science in your

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01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 2>own backyard. I've had people post photos of flies they've

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the garden and they've become new species, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was so excited that, you know, so on on Instagram,

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01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 2>just posted this photo of this gorgeous fly that has

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<v Speaker 2>never been documented to science before. It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The dream, The dream. And on social media, where can

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01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.439
<v Speaker 1>people see more of your work and your flies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Instagram and Twitter at Brye the Fly Guy

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<v Speaker 2>and this September, I'm actually releasing my first children's book

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<v Speaker 2>on fies to encourage kids to get into flies and

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<v Speaker 2>biodiversity and appreciate the world around them. So keep your

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on these flies.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I love it. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being on. You were a joy time flu.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having the alley and letting

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<v Speaker 2>me talk about flies and my crazy passion for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So ask brilliant people ridiculous gross questions because now you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about flies, and you can look for

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<v Speaker 1>Briye the fly guy on social media that links to

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<v Speaker 1>his websites in the show notes. He's so wonderful. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at Ologies on Instagram and Twitter. I'm Ali with one

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<v Speaker 1>If you have small minds wanting some ologies, you can

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<v Speaker 1>check out Alleyward dot com slash smologies and download those short,

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<v Speaker 1>filth free episodes. Those are suitable for classrooms in all ages.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are headed up by Zike Rodriguez Thomas and Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>Maitland of mind Jam Media, who are both great, with

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<v Speaker 1>some assists by Stephen Ray Morris, also great. Nick Thorburn

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<v Speaker 1>wrote and performed the theme music, and our lead editor

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<v Speaker 1>is the mayor of Babe Town, shared Sleeper of Mindjam Media.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight is the Warriors versus Celtics game. My family is

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<v Speaker 1>watching it right now. Warriors are up. I think halftime

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<v Speaker 1>is about to start, so I'm literally recording this in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage. I'm going to race back inside because time

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<v Speaker 1>is of the essence and if you stick around until

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the episode, I tell you a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>And this week I was on a zoom and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized it's really fucking weird to see your own face

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<v Speaker 1>because for every other conversation you don't have to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>your face. And I realized this is not a new

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<v Speaker 1>revelation to have two years into a pandemic, when we've

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<v Speaker 1>been living on this. But on this meeting, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I opened up a note from my notes app on

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<v Speaker 1>my computer, and I just made the window the size

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<v Speaker 1>of my zoom face window, and I just popped it

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<v Speaker 1>right on top of my own face, so I only

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<v Speaker 1>saw everyone else's face. And I just loosened up a bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, huh, I feel like myself again,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case anyone is doing a lot of zoom

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<v Speaker 1>meeting still and that helps anyway. Also, I've had this

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson Twins song called lies in my head, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>fly Size, I keep thinking flies, flies flies. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>good luck getting that out of your head. Okay, bye, bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Size.

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<v Speaker 1>Get value.

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<v Speaker 3>says served up with their crispy, chunky chips and ice

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<v Speaker 3>cream like sea salta caramel or pistachio for dessert. Can't

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