Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. Let's go,
Let's grove from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Ham'sday, Hester and Hester got it, fata.
Speaker 1: Pa your logs in to off the bench.
Speaker 2: Well, let's crop control the.
Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kine Studio. Here's Jacob Hester and
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Y walkme in oh TV.
Speaker 3: Here on this Monday, Monday Monday, Jake Flynn, a Landre,
Tay Tay.
Speaker 2: The gang is all back together.
Speaker 3: The Wolfback's all back together for the first time since
Jesus was a boy, for the first time since Moby
Dick was a mino. We are all here together. It
has been feels like a month. Maybe it has been
I don't know, but glad to be back in studio,
back in Baton Rouge, back together with the OTB wolf Pack.
We still have a show. Matt didn't get us canceled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're excited that we have a little parent guardian
now back in the house to keep us on track,
show a little responsibility. But yes, we are still here.
And we were just talking about the kind of a
recap of last week. I think Taylor, Landra and I
we finished the show Friday, and we gave a little
high five. We're still here and we got fired. We're
not canceled. We talked some sports and we made it.
We proved ourselves we could do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I am very proud, very thankful for y'all.
Speaker 2: Do you do what y'all did? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do what y'all did last week. It's not
easy when you haven't done a whole lot of that.
You even had Coach Moulki on, you had guests on,
and having guests sometimes isn't your favorite thing. So I
appreciate you holding down the fort with the laundry.
Speaker 4: And we talked about it Thursday after because we had
Coach Moki on Wednesday and I was like, man, I
was barely even sweating during.
Speaker 2: That interview until she was like, I don't really know
what you're asking, but yep, there's not a lot of
times it's somebody let me answer, like I think the
way you're asking it, she knew, Oh, she knew.
Speaker 4: H there's not a lot of times five shows you
can make a three minute blooper reel out of it.
Speaker 2: But we did it. Like I said, there's footage.
Speaker 4: Yeah for ten twenty thirty minutes, you name it.
Speaker 2: It was great. But we're glad that you're back.
Speaker 3: Glad to be back, Like I said, I mean between
national Championship and what Senior Bowl. Obviously we were all
together outside of Tayte, but still just not in studio
in bat Rouge and then out all week last week.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you're not lied.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did a lot of shows, did a lot of talking.
I was telling y'all the other day. Took a red
eye back in Friday night straight to a baseball tournament
that lasted all day as one day tournament, so we
kept winning.
Speaker 2: Shout out to lug Nuts.
Speaker 3: We won it, but started at like eleven thirty and
then left the ballpark like at nine thirty.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't want to have it any other way though,
you know, absolutely, let's go. That's it. When it's gone,
that's right. But yesterday didn't have anything to do with
watch some football. You go, do you sleep now?
Speaker 3: We did have fifty people at our house, but it
was good friends, good time, bad football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. Everybody else was great. Did
you get like a little nap end yesterday? Though? You
know me, I'm not an apple. I know I'm not
an apple either.
Speaker 3: I went straight like from the Red Eye, didn't sleep.
I can't sleep on planes. I am so envious of
people that as soon as like they put their mask on,
as soon as they put their neck pillow on and
get in the air like mouth O, been asleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I hadn't taken a Red Eye in a couple
of years, Like I forget how that snoring people like
on these red eye flights.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I am so jealous that you can
sleep right there.
Speaker 3: But I hit a second wind at some point, and
not even medicated second win, just a natural second win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was it's actually not that bad.
Speaker 3: You're thinking about Martha Stewart. Yeah, she was great. Eighty
four years old, what skin looks incredible.
Speaker 2: I did not know she was eighty. We might need
to fact check that I knew she was up there.
Speaker 3: But my producer on Super Bowl Radio is like, how
credible is that for eighty four year old?
Speaker 2: I was like, no, bro, ain't no way. My girls
through the eighty four eighty five hours lives in them trenches.
She's been behind bars exactly.
Speaker 3: Came out on the other side, shot to Martha, what
did y'all talk about a little bit of everything. Really, Yeah,
a little home and garden, you know, little patriots. Her
and Bob Kraft their friends friends. Because they both do
big stuff with Bank of America. She gave them a
shout out. We're like, uh, you know, first American Banking trust. Yeah,
the case you're in Louisiana. But she gave Vacim America
shout out. So because like they've done some stuff together. Uh,
She's like, you know, maybe they can win without you
know who. So she threw some slide at you know,
TV twelve and so well they did it. They did not,
they did not, But yeah, she was great. And then
you know, her and Snoop Dogg were so close. Talked
about that he's doing the Olympics and she was joining
him for something.
Speaker 2: How old is Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 3: He's got to be in the sixties, sixty four, fifty four,
fifty four years old.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's that's a hard fifty. That was a
very hard fifty. Yeah, Beth Stewart, I'm thirty years older
than him. Wow.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Martha, it was it was a
great week. It was a lot of talking, a lot
of shows. Uh, the the the city itself, like it's
just not a super Bowl city. It's just not like
when I go somewhere like I want to know I'm
there for the super Bowl. I want to see signs
and I want to see like buzz around the game
and not just like every day this is what the
city would look like if you came in the middle
of the summer, or if you came any other time.
San Francisco in itself not thriving like it once was
because I've been there many times. Everything was spread out,
which we knew that going in, like opening nights in
San Jose, media rows in San Francisco, the games in
Santa Clara. The venue that we did much smaller than
when we were in New Orleans last year, much smaller
than one in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: It's like when you walk down the convention they're like,
no juice to the city board. That happened.
Speaker 3: But we're in New Orleans. It's like, I'm here for
the super Bowl. I'm here for the biggest sporting event
in the world every year, like I'm here for that.
You didn't like, you would not know you were there
for the super Bowl unless you were working it because
the game's like almost an hour away. You know, the
opening night with the players is forty five minutes away. Like,
when was there juice there? You think there was a
juice there?
Speaker 2: No, there was. I talked to a ton of people. Yeah,
all right.
Speaker 3: So and again this is anything against San Francisco itself,
Yeah it is, but it's just not a great host city.
Like they just got Super Bowl fifty. I don't get
why they got Super Bowl sixty. Like normally, like if
you got a new stadium or something in the league's
knowing you a bone.
Speaker 4: This stadium is not new, but it helped the last one.
They mean one piece of good pub San France had
in the last decade. Warriors good pub Warriors are across
the across.
Speaker 3: The Then they moved, did they Yeah, they moved a
couple of years ago for San fran Yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 5: They were, they were, they were more dominant in Oakland.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. So that's true. I know. I'm just
about the city. Give it one good. It's all just
hated on the city. Not necessarily.
Speaker 3: I will tell you again, I have been there many times.
The foods were great. But I've been there many times
and I've seen it in a better light. It's only
the third time the super Bowl has been in San Francisco.
Super Bowl nineteen was between Marino and Joe Montana. Super
Bowl nineteen in but they played that one in Stanford Stadium,
So fifty was only the second time. I think there's
a reason why that's not just not a great super
Bowl host city.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be in LA next year. It'll be better.
Speaker 3: You'll sell some stuff spread out, obviously, but I'm expecting
it to be better.
Speaker 5: But they also just got one too, versus Matthew Stafford
was in LA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can all agree that New Orleans
one was the league. Oh yeah, Vegas and news New
Orleans should host it every year. But Vegas New Orleans
were really really good. I mean it, it went down,
and I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he
goes LA and then back across America to Atlanta the
next year.
Speaker 2: So that'll be better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you won't have as many people like next year
being in LA. Like super Bowl Radio, I'm gonna imagine
it's gonna be pretty pretty big.
Speaker 2: A couple there's gonna be a couple of guests there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be Yeah, the yeah, you look at
it just from a straight media row situation, because that's
where you're spending.
Speaker 2: All your time. Yeah, I mean did you go down
to Santa Clair at all?
Speaker 3: No? No, not at all, not one time. I mean
I'm in media row most of the time. And then
we had a Serious XM put on a concert noa
kan so like at the Warfield.
Speaker 2: So we went and saw, like all of us went
and saw that.
Speaker 3: That's really you know a few times you kind of
get out of the because I mean you're a media row,
you're doing multiple shows, and then when you're not doing shows,
you were doing interviews with the pit, like the people
that are there, like obviously you know, Matt was doing
his show and so like Matt wants to grab people
and so Serious XM will just like any company.
Speaker 2: But for me, they'll you know, hey, do you want
to do this? Who do you want to do?
Speaker 3: Here's six interviews that we're gonna do and then they'll
walk you through. So I got a chance, So I
went on Nashville, my guy Ron Sligh Don Davenport. They
do a great job. I actually think they they finished
right behind Mascona. I think I think they finished fourth
in Barrat's sports media rate rankings.
Speaker 2: So a big show in Nashville.
Speaker 3: But they had booked me at three thirty and my
guy Lorenzo Nil at three forty five. And I got
there and they were a little bit late with there,
you know, the person who was in front of me,
So we started like at three thirty eight or whatever.
Well Low was a little bit early, and so he
comes and then like, hey, can you what do you
I was like, absolutely, we guess my guy, it's a fullback.
I felt bad though, because about three minutes in, like
I pretty much turned my back to them and me
and Low Daddy are talking about fullback storees for about
twenty minutes. I was like, I'm so sorry. They're like, no, y'all,
please go ahead continue. So there's some fun moments in there,
even when you're doing some interviews.
Speaker 2: But I mean you saw media Day in the sec
like and you did them.
Speaker 3: I mean you did the car wash you had the
first day you had to go do it. Also, yeah,
you're there pretty much all day long. So like if
media rows set up like in a good way, can
kind of change the trip. Yeah, the uh and I
saw that you had a lot of really cool interviews.
But I saw you got to interview a couple of
running back legends at the same time at the same time,
mister Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, I went, Were they good? Yeah? They were great?
Speaker 3: That that day alone, I had Bo Jackson, Marshall Fall,
Barry Sanders, and Emmitt Smith decent, but having Barry Sanders
and Emmitt Smith at the like interviewing him at the
same time was incredible as the best of those four.
Speaker 2: Of those four not interview football, Oh oh, Barry gosh, Marshall.
I don't know. Marshall's the best all around running back.
Speaker 3: Maybe that I've seen, like I watched like I didn't
see like you know before the nineties. But Barry Man,
I don't know. That's stuff I had to come back to.
I just circle back to that one him.
Speaker 2: You didn't even say the name Bo one time. Well,
I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think Bo was the best. His rum was
very short in the NFL. Now athlete wise, we can
talk about that. But Emma Smith was giving Barry Sanders
like a hard time because he's like Barry never writes back,
he never texts me back, he never calls me back,
and Barry so soft spoken. He's like like, why are
you telling these people like all our business? Why you
why are you hearing out all our How of a friend?
I am, Yeah, m me just came right and go on.
But uh yeah, very cool to be able to talk
to those same guys to you know, at time, and
I was trying to think. They were talking about some
of the running backs in the NFL today and like
which one would have thrived like during their time. It
was funny they both like at the same time because
I asked me a question. I was gonna go like, hey,
you give me yours for I was like, hey, you
know who could do it? And they both Derrick Henry
like both at the same time, like in our era,
like how football was played back then. They're like that
guy would have played and as great as he has
now would have been even better, Like talked about one
of the all time like top three running backs if
you would have played during our time.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it will make sense. He was a very he's
a very large person.
Speaker 3: Oh he walked onto our stage and the whole stage
just sunk. Swear to god, I sware it was incredible.
Speaker 2: What is he like? Yeah, he's whatever. Yes, just say yes.
So just build different.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was the exciting part of Super Bowl week.
We're talking about up before the bad part. I left
before the bad part, and we'll talk about the bad part.
We'll talk about a game that really had no juice,
so juiceless that when somebody actually scored a touchdown, even
though it was for the team that was up twelve
to nothing already pull away, you got excited because you
saw a guy with the ball with two feet in
the end zone. And we'll talk about that game when
we come back here on OTV.
Speaker 2: Off the bench, all right.
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 2: Where did I see?
Speaker 1: We are always running, always pushing up the gill, searching.
Speaker 2: Startle what's in front of you?
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in oh tb here on this
Monday morning. And well last night in Santa Clara, as
we talked about alluded to a little bit there and
you already know because well it's the Super Bowl. And
if you didn't watch the Super Bowl, you're weird. And
the Seattle Seahawks won the game twenty nine to thirteen
over the Patriots, and they were dominant. It left no
doubt who the best team in the NFL was, And
I will say before we kind of dive into the
game and get the show started, I will say that
I didn't understand the narrative of people not being excited
about the matchup and kind of talking about the matchup
like it wasn't a high caliber one out there, because
I'm like, they're both fourteen and three. They booth did
a lot of good. They both got like great quarterback stories,
they both got like good head coaching stories. They both
are franchises that have been stable for a long time.
They just met, you know, in a super Bowl ten
years ago. Like I don't know if y'all felt that here,
but like being in San Francisco, like it was like, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know, underwhelming. I'm like, I don't. I guess I don't
get that.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like we have a team with ten wins,
like both these teams fourteen and three, the Patriots started
one and two and then you know we obviously.
Speaker 2: Got it here last.
Speaker 3: You did, Yeah, well why not because of the anything
you laid out, just because of the overall feeling.
Speaker 4: It was just kind of like, eh, we don't really
care a whole lot about it there, I guess I'm just.
Speaker 2: We were trying to figure out why to you didn't
really understand it really feeling.
Speaker 3: But I think it's because you gave out the stat
that they were like one of the least like they
had like the least chances or one.
Speaker 4: Of the Oh yeah, so like the we talked about
the odds preseason of these two teams making it to
the Super Bowl, which in it was like an astounding number.
It was like one of there were seventy five to one,
the other one was like sixty five to one something
like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like that may be part of it.
Speaker 5: Lack of lack of stars one either stars. I don't
care about that, but a lot of people do. Like
even even Jackson Smith and he's not a flashy.
Speaker 2: He won Offensive Player of the Year. I get it.
In the NFL, for the average person.
Speaker 4: You just don't watch a lot of I'm like, they're
so they're so tucked away geographically, there's not a lot
of people following them.
Speaker 5: I just growing up, for whatever reason, I just never
liked either team.
Speaker 2: That was the only thing before.
Speaker 4: They're both good though, growing over with you grow up,
they were, Yeah, they were always great, like.
Speaker 3: Hassleback went to the Super Bowl, beastmude like that whole
group twice.
Speaker 4: Well, we established this last week as well. The youths
behind the glass back there. They don't like dominant people,
they don't like, don't like, they don't like dynasties.
Speaker 5: I even said in an individual sport if someone if
someone's dominant in a sport, I don't normally watch, I
do watch it because of that.
Speaker 4: Person when everyone have the opportunity to get a trophy,
you know, Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Well just kidding.
Speaker 3: I just thought maybe, yea, it helped me out, But
it sounds like y'all are part of the problem.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if it's a problem. I feel
like it was proven. Yeah, like the game right right,
it was. Yeah, it was a lack of firepower.
Speaker 3: The game wasn't great for sure, But I'm saying like,
going into it, I was surprised because I was, like,
I was just thinking both teams. Now, the Seahawks fourteen
and three, I will say, looked a little bit different
than the Patriots fourteen and three. Like, think about the
Seahawks in the toughest division in football, to be the
one seed and then to win to Super Bowl. Mhmm,
it's wild that they'll be They won't be remembered as
one one of the greats, like one of the best
teams ever. But the forty nine ers made the playoffs,
won a playoff game. The Rams won obviously playoff game,
and that's in their division. And they beat those two
teams in division, got the one seed and then went
and finished it.
Speaker 2: All right, is go ahead and get this show started.
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Speaker 3: All right, as we've talked about already, Seahawks win twenty
nine to thirteen. The defense just never let up on
Drake May in that offense and one of the better
defenses obviously that you'll see. And this was a defensive playoffs.
I mean, all the top teams had top defenses. But
you know what it of course, and Matt's gonna roll
his eyes at me. Probably it had me thinking watching
the Seahawks get after Drake May, after every team they
really played in the postseason. I'm still incredibly shocked how
well Philip Prepers did it gets at Seahawks defense when
he came off the couch forty five years old, first game,
and I was sitting there thinking, then, look, I mean
he threw for like one hundred and twenty yards, but
he threw for a score and you only took one Sack.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how did he do that?
Speaker 3: Like it even more so, I was like, how in
the world did he do that against that defense? Because
and not to turn this into that, just was thinking
about how they've dominated a lot of really good teams,
a lot of really veteran quarterbacks who are still at
the top of their game. If you want to beat
Seattle with the way that their defense plays, you were
going to do it more with your mind than when
your talent, because.
Speaker 4: Then that answers your question about like, you know, the
Philip Rivers thing, they just had an answer for everything
pre snap. Yeah, the Patriots did not have a pre
snap answer to anything. Now, the game plan that Seattle
came into last night with was awesome. It was full
of pressure from all over the place, creating confusion, confusing
young quarterback, young offensive line. And I don't believe that
the Seahawks all season really pressured that because they had.
Speaker 3: Such a dominant front four. Yeah right, that they've be there.
They're eight and you saw it in the second half
the first half yesterday. They created absolute chaos and it
showed they were bringing it from every single side of
every single situation. Did you see the one the Patriots
were backed up and they had the nickel playing off
like like seven yards off and then they ended up
inserting him in the B gap and Drake May gets
the ball and like he looks left and then all
of a sudden, like it was like right there and
he just happened to like hit a swing pass yep,
but it was like untouched from depth, like perfect timing.
Speaker 4: And you could tell that the Patriots are not a
very good hard count team. No, like and like you
could just quarterbacks, you've done it, you can understand, like
those things show they're they're little things. The veteran quarterback
presence or at least somebody veteran on an offense that
can teach you how to do those different things. Those
things show their head and situations like that, Yeah, you
have to if you have a good hard talent quarterback,
like you got to be worried about it.
Speaker 2: You can't time like they were timing.
Speaker 4: They were running full speed at the snap of the
ball of it too, full speed of the snap of
the ball when they're blisting. You should That is an
indictment on the quarterback and his ability to create a
hard count.
Speaker 2: Now, even if you're not hard counting.
Speaker 3: It's they still don't come full speed like that, because
you could you hardcount at the time before, you know
what I mean. There's that's why there's good teams will
have six or seven different and I was so shocked
that they didn't never Maybe they can't. Maybe they can't.
Maybe Drake May's probably never done that before. Like seriously,
we're done it well, like there's like you done it too.
There's a difference between like down said, hut, you know
what I mean? Another question, gotcha?
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, because if they're coming full speed,
like you know, you know Grenady Grenady.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, twenty seven's coming Hey, hey guys, swip
it here, twenty seven's coming back.
Speaker 2: Hey you got you know him? And then you get
back and then you just go to your normal snap count.
Speaker 3: And then when that guy tries to hit it, you
don't care, yeah, because you got it picked up and
all you did was give him a false snap count
to start off everything. And they're pros, they're gonna hear it.
But that's why you like, you're like Granady grannies. And
then you kind of and then the next the first
time you go through it all again, Grande Greennies said hut.
And then the next time it's after the hard count, you
just say said hut. Like yeah, it's the first sound
after the even if you're creating a split second or
or one misstep, because that guy's gonna stop, then he's
got to start again, and he's gonna start full speed.
Speaker 4: Because your tackles and guards enough time to sort it
out and make the so I could. I was watching
last night and I was like, come on, you'll just
be better at the hard count, Like do something to
slow them down. You cannot have a defense sprinting at
you at the snap of the snap of the ball.
I was talking last week with Warren Moon and he
was talking about We got into a conversation about how
the cadence is now and how everything's gone. It's either,
you know, because we're actually talking about college football. Then
kind of turned into NFL obviously, but we were talking
about the snap and the clap on the snap count
and like lifting the leg or whatever, and he's like,
I just don't understand why they do it.
Speaker 3: He gives he said, because offensively, you're always looking for
answers to the test. He goes, that doesn't answer any question.
He said, it does nothing for you. He said, like,
even in an away situation, I always like to have something.
Maybe maybe it's different and maybe it's still like lifting
the leg, but it's still I'm I'm you know, I've
got verbage and still lifting the leg.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: Think about the quarterback not saying a single word. Maybe
he points out the mic, maybe he doesn't, and he
just lifts his leg. He's like, that gives you no advantage.
It doesn't go against what the defense is trying to do.
And he actually talked about it in detail. He's like, man,
I loved being able to get to where I wanted
to go by giving my cadence and having the defense
have to guess which cadence I was going to use.
What was the snap count? You know, who's pointing out them?
Like all the things that you could. He said that
you could get pre snap just by your verbage.
Speaker 2: He's he's like, you said, doing this, he said, gives
you nothing. He's pretty good. College snapcount is really dumb. Uh.
Speaker 4: The NFL silent count, so we had even when we
were in silent, we had probably seven or eight snapcounts
right and silent and it all it was all.
Speaker 3: Based on the centers looking between his legs. It lifts
his head up. Sometimes he snaps it after he lifts
his head up. Sometimes he says ready to go, then
snaps it. Sometimes he fakes the ready go. Sometimes he
like snaps it with his head was down and without
lifting it. It's all and it's all due to grading
like a like just a split second. Yeah, just a
little bit of hesitation that gives you the advantage. Yeah,
I didn't know for our lead on the Super Bowls
is gonna be the snapcount.
Speaker 2: That's on me.
Speaker 3: That's not bad, but it it made a really big
game though. It really made a big difference. And it's
one of those things that I bet you there's not
many shows out there and it's one of those things
that snapcount not helping the game like we did.
Speaker 4: It is a really not talked about enough on elite
snapcount guys in hardcounts, And it would have made a
difference yesterday if they were.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I don't not saying they would have won the game,
but they would have had some time that pocket. The
rush was so relentless yesterday from a blitz standpoint, But
even when they didn't blitz the first half. They blitzed
like this is the that was their game plan. We're
gonna come and get after him, create chaos in the
first half, and then the second half, we're gonna play
like we have all year, rush for dropping coverage, blitz
every now and then. But Drake May is going to
be so flustered and on his toes and seeing ghosts
and stuff. He's not gonna be able to perform because
he's seen it all first half and he's gonna expect it.
And they executed that plan to perfection. And my god,
are they talented. And that brand of football they have, Yeah,
it travels anywhere, whether it's inside, outside, cold, hot, rainy, dry,
it doesn't matter. That brand of football travels. And it
is a good football to watch.
Speaker 3: It just so happens that it made the game not
completely great to watch, but it's a fun brand the
footballtim Yeah.
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fullback teas tell you want to come back and tell
you what I think. More than getting after Drake May
why they won the game, and we'll do that when
we jump back here on OTB off the bench. Everybody
wants to know, Matt.
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Speaker 2: All right, going back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: One of the things that actually I think the main
thing outside you know, the pressure obviously that Seattle got
on the Patriots was key.
Speaker 2: But the Patriots going into this.
Speaker 3: Game in the playoffs three games were allowing only seventy
two yards per game on the ground. Remarkable, right, I
mean nobody could and they the Chargers, the Texans, and
the Broncos all want to be teams that established the run,
and they couldn't do it against the Patriots. And a
lot of times you'll see that and you'll say, there's
you know, we'll run a little bit, but we're gonna
put a lot on Sam Darnold. We're not gonna really
commit to the run because well, just beating your head
against a brick wall and we can't be successful.
Speaker 2: They said the hell with that.
Speaker 3: They said we're gonna run it, and we're gonna run
it twenty seven times with Kenneth Walker, and he ran
for one hundred and thirty five yards five yards.
Speaker 2: Per carry, and man, they could not figure out.
Speaker 3: The outside. Don't are stretch play that they had They
couldn't set the edge.
Speaker 4: They couldn't the tight ends and tackles. That a hell
of it job on getting their hands inside the shoulders,
and you know, there's a good way to hold there's
a there's a legal way to hold.
Speaker 3: Hands inside the shoulders. Keep your body, get your get
your arms bent, your chest in front of theirs. And
they did a really good job of not letting those
guys get off. And so then it's not like a
lack of trying setting the edge. Yeah, the Blockers just dominated.
And Kenneth Walker whatever, Like when did you start running
like with a little who is the running back for
the Steelers forever? Yeah, when did you start running like him?
So people kind of compared him to Fred Warner for
the forty nine Ers was on I forget what your
pre game show he was on, so apologize, but he
was on and they're like, who do you comp him to?
Speaker 2: He said, Man, he's got the patients of a Laveon.
Speaker 4: Bell well like and I'm not comparing them as runners
of the patients, but like the hops, like the skip
skip skip skip, I've never hadn't seen that of him
this season, and I don't feel like I saw that
the first half.
Speaker 2: Yesterday the second half he started doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to to have the patients, to be able to
allow everything to develop, allow everything to to clear, and
to not force the issue and not run into the defense.
So many young running backs like they just they're so
excited they get the football, they just run right into
the defense. But to be able to read it like
he did, I thought it was a difference in the game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Brady Russell and Robbie Oots are the two fullbacks. Brady
Oots played for the Alabama Crimson Tide and Brady Russell
went to Colorado.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oots, it's a o u z ts. Yep.
Speaker 3: Obviously the pronunciation. Guy says boots without the B, that's Oots.
There's a Z before the tu. I believe it's o
u zts. Interesting double entry of origin o u zts. Yeah,
country of origin.
Speaker 2: I got no idea.
Speaker 3: So two full backs ran the football against a team
that was not allowing anybody to run it.
Speaker 2: Both one seeds this year had fullbacks. Yep, are we back?
Speaker 3: I would say that in a world that we live
in in the year of our Lord. I hate how
you have to look at your watch for that.
Speaker 2: Yep. All it goes for the date, but the year
he always looks, and you know what, there's not even February.
Like you've had time to it, Josea.
Speaker 4: It just says Monday, the night, seven forty three. Then
it tells me it's fifty seven degrees out there. That's
all it tellors. Don't even tell me the dear Yea.
But this year, the best offenses in the entire world,
I'm not going to say featured a fullback, but included
a fullback and included a lot of tight ends. Yeah,
and I loved with their thirteen person I love to
see that brand of football. I love to see just
different brands of offensive football that work, and a football
you know, always ebbs and flows on what is working
what's not working an offense, at least at the professional level.
Is that a really cool spot where you have a
little bit of old school mixed in with a new
school and a lot of creat Like it's these new, creative,
young gun offensive coordinators and coaches that are going back
to using old more old school personnels, but using it
different than they were used.
Speaker 3: I mean, this didn't like your nineteen nineties Cowboys or
anything like that. This is like using it in different ways,
and there was just some excellent It's like play designs
yesterday and correct me if you don't agree with this,
But it's like they are taking, like, you know, what
a lot of people are doing today, and they're kind
of marrying it with what Build Walsh was doing with
the forty nine ers, and like Tom Rathman and no
Roger Craig being he just made the Hall of Fame
a guy that could do do it all. It's like
they're taking a little bit of that, some of the
old school West Coast stuff and they're pairing it together
with a lot of the new stuff. But that's where
you're seeing like a blended offense because like what the
forty nine ers were doing, it was with a full back,
it was with a tight end, but they were the
first team to really like have a back that stayed
on the field all three downs and did it a
little bit of everything, and it feels like it's a
great pairing of new age and old school and just
the right amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you look at the.
Speaker 4: Look at the matchup yesterday and kind of go back
to your question from the beginning of the show, like
where's the juice for this matchup. Yeah, you have to
look at to me, you look at the Patriots road
to the super Bowl. They went through three absolutely anemic
offenses to get to the super Bowl. Yeah, Now their
record is great defense, bad offenses. Yeah, they played like
they had a record the the most losing teams or whatever,
one of the easiest schedules in the NFL. That's not
a knock on them. They did not notre dame this
thing and picked their schedule cherry pick it to be
a week schedule. This is just just the way it
fell out this year. But first round they played the Chargers,
who played with h eighth string offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Next week they played CJ. Stroud and that Texans offense.
I couldn't do anything. And they played back Sam Donald
saw years ago, Sam Donald the Ghostbuster. The sucked those
ghosts up in that little canister and he sent them
over to right and then played in the snow. So
it's like their road, their path to the super Bowl
was not very sexy. Wasn't that hard?
Speaker 2: Seahawks went through two division rivals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just don't think anybody out of the
AFC were ready for what the Seahawks were bringing.
Speaker 2: Last night. That's fair. I think it's fair. And uh,
it wasn't close.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: I went back and I watched a couple of clips
this morning, and no, wasn't close in all aspects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in all aspects of the game.
Speaker 3: Like we're talking about on defense, the pressures, the way
they ran the football, the way they protected Sam Darnold.
Speaker 4: It was the defense was so smart too, like, yeah,
the way that their defensive backs would pass receivers off
and read his eyes like he wasn't doing much with
his eyes, Yeah, because he just didn't have time to
do it right.
Speaker 2: And it was not a great day for Will either. No,
I mean, you give up fourteen pressures.
Speaker 4: I think that was I heard the stat I think
it was the most pressures given up by an offensive
lineman all season.
Speaker 3: Wildly enough, like the sack that he gave up that
actually wasn't on him, that was on late help by
the guard, but still fourteen pressures.
Speaker 2: His fourteen pressures.
Speaker 3: I mean the Patriots entire, like Taylor was saying during
the break, they replaced one of their offensive linemen in
the middle of the game, that sack.
Speaker 4: That he gave up, that it was funny because it
wasn't his fault, but it also wasn't the guards fault
who helped him, Like it was kind of is just
a misfortune. It was a bad timing to go help
because I think they had just lost contact with each
other and then he helped them. Yeah, and it just
was it was unfortunate time and which looked bad on him.
You got Chris collins Worth didn't do very good job.
Speaker 2: No he did not. Just point out what you see, Chris,
what happens.
Speaker 3: Explain to the people what happened so you can help
them learn some of the inner workings there of pass protection.
We always talk about diversity in the run game. Real quick,
and I know we're taking a break. Twelve outside zones,
eight inside zones, seven duos, a counter, three pool leads,
and one trick play, not just one run, multiple runs,
multiple things that they'll do. If you want to be
successful running the football, you can't be a one trick pony.
And Seattle certainly was not that last night. The trick
play was the reverse to Rashid Shahid.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those things don't work, No, not in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Those work in they were thirty times it was working
flag football at the kindergarten and first grade level, and
then by second grade you can't do it anymore. And
if they work in the NFL, it's like eight yards. Yeah, yeah,
it's a love. It was negative, usually negative.
Speaker 2: It's a you use that play to get it. It's
usually a negative. It was a negative five, But everybody
does it.
Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench, all right, welcome.
Speaker 2: Back in in OTB.
Speaker 3: Kind of wrapping up some of our first hour Super
Bowl talk. I'm sure y'all talked about it in length
last week. But sure for Sam Darnold, what a story
was drafted in the top five was gonna be the
savior of the Jets. Nobody can save the Jets. Jets suck,
They're awful. But that's what he was, you know, tasked
with and doesn't work out for him. There has a
losing seasons, first year second season, he actually, as you know,
for him himself, he's won game over five hundred and
then he goes what two and ten and his THURSD
season gets shipped off to Carolina where Baker Mayfield takes
over that job, and then at that point goes to
San Francisco for a year. And he had been tabbed
a bust, which is so hard to get of. He
been tabbed a backup now, which is so hard to
get back into the starter position. And then when he
goes to Minnesota, he wasn't going to be the guy
they draft JJ McCarthy. And all he does once he
goes down is he goes fourteen and three, fourteen and three,
and then he goes to Seattle on free agency. A
lot of people say, that's dumb money. Why did you
spend that on him? He's a one hit wonder. You're
gonna get the old Sam Darnold. He did not allow
that to become his story. He didn't allow the bus
you know, tab on his name to become where he
ended his career. And Matt knows, I know, it is
so hard to get rid of that, and once you
get it, it's almost stuck with you forever So shout
out to Sam Darneld for just putting his head down,
not blaming others, going to work, being fourteen and three
this year, twenty eight and six and two years and
now super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4: Not a lot of people get escape no certain places.
Not a lot of people escape the Jets, not a
lot of people escape Oakland when it was in Oakland.
But the fact that he was able to do that,
resurrect your career and have a great game, super Bowl
winning quarterback.
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