Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show at Martin willis your host,
Speaker 1: and Happy Saint Patrick's Day. And why is my screen
Speaker 1: blue and not green because I was messing around before
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Speaker 1: So just a couple of things we are. Our guest
Speaker 1: tonight is Jeff Silver. I'm really looking forward to speaking
Speaker 1: to him and this coming weekend he's going to be
Speaker 1: out at UFO con, which I was at last year
Speaker 1: and spoke at last year, and so you know, it's
Speaker 1: a I don't know if they do any live stream
Speaker 1: from there or not. I'm not really sure. But that's
Speaker 1: if you ever get a chance to go up to
Speaker 1: northern California about this time the year.
Speaker 2: Every year, it's a great little conference up there.
Speaker 1: So the blog this week by Charles Lear is Silver
Speaker 1: Suited Humanoid Reports. This goes back as you know, he
Speaker 1: is a Charles Lear if you've been paying attention to
Speaker 1: the show for over the years, he is a history
Speaker 1: buff when it comes to UFO, so he does a
Speaker 1: lot of research and this is back in nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 1: and there were also reports back in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: So he reports on all that in this week's blog.
Speaker 1: That's over at podcastufo dot com. Thank you all for
Speaker 1: being here.
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to my guests. Just before I
Speaker 1: forget next week, I have Jay Hammon on now. Jay
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Speaker 1: So next week again, Jay Hammond, same time, but it's
Speaker 1: a premiere, and I hope you get in there. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be away from phone. I will not be participating,
Speaker 1: but I hope you are in chat. And I know
Speaker 1: that dispatch center. He's always going to be there. He'll
Speaker 1: be there as in many people that are the regulars,
Speaker 1: the usual suspects, as they say, one quick little thing
Speaker 1: housekeeping here is And I know Christopher, you're in chat
Speaker 1: and you really liked the vertical view, the cell phone view.
Speaker 1: I had many more complaints than people that liked it.
Speaker 1: So I decided that we are not going to run
Speaker 1: the vertical view any longer, just with all the plaints
Speaker 1: I had on it, people not finding the right stream
Speaker 1: and all that and getting frustrated. So I am ah Monica, welcome,
Speaker 1: good to see you.
Speaker 2: So here we go. Welcome, Jeff, nice to have you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Martin, thanks for having me. It's good to
Speaker 3: see you and Jeff.
Speaker 1: You have a long history of things been happening all
Speaker 1: the way back. Well, I say long, but relatively long.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety seven you had something, is that when things
Speaker 1: began with you.
Speaker 3: That's when things began for Yeah, you could say that's
Speaker 3: where the weird beginning of the weird. Yeah, you call
Speaker 3: it that way high strangeness. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I always like to ask people ahead of time,
Speaker 1: did you ever have any you know, interest in the
Speaker 1: topic of UFOs et cetera ahead of time?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, So as a kid, I watched Unsolved Mysteries.
Speaker 3: Yeah and uh and then you know those kind of
Speaker 3: books of the strange, lockness, monster, big foot type stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh and not just transmuted to uh. When I
Speaker 3: was sixteen years old, I really wanted to learn more
Speaker 3: about aliens actually, and and a girlfriend at the time
Speaker 3: referred me to Whitley Strieber's Communion and that was in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three and uh and so I read that
Speaker 3: and that actually spawned a contact event behind my life
Speaker 3: and at the time I didn't know it. And uh,
Speaker 3: so that was it. That was the three books, I
Speaker 3: kind of I think you had three. Transfer Communion. I
Speaker 3: think Transformation was another, and there was a third and
Speaker 3: then that was the end of it, and yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: into more spiritual content. For a period of my life
Speaker 3: while I was traveling, having weird events happened to me,
Speaker 3: and then that was it. I was a musician, and
Speaker 3: then I grew up as an adult and I stopped
Speaker 3: focusing on all these topics until it all unraveled for
Speaker 3: me in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should do a survey of how many people
Speaker 1: that I have as guests that are musicians, because it's
Speaker 1: like there's so.
Speaker 2: Many of them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any relation to that, but
Speaker 1: I did a pre record with Jay next week. He's
Speaker 1: a musician songwriter. But yeah, constantly, almost all my guests
Speaker 1: have some type of musical interest or are musicians of
Speaker 1: one kind or another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you amazing that? Yeah, Yeah, it's right brain
Speaker 3: instead of a I think you can't be too analytical
Speaker 3: about this content. Not to say that when you're looking
Speaker 3: back at it, but when you're going through it. I
Speaker 3: think that you need to have a bit of that
Speaker 3: that feeling of surrender that you have in the creative role,
Speaker 3: like the you got a song to play, you got
Speaker 3: you've got that creative thing going on. You have kind
Speaker 3: of an internal surrender that you kind of learn to
Speaker 3: let go of that the maybe more analytical people uh
Speaker 3: don't know how to do. And uh, I think there's
Speaker 3: something like that. I think there's handling the abstract and
Speaker 3: all those kind of ideas that make you that are
Speaker 3: predispositions for for alien contact, believe or not. I believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also artists, I should say that you're right,
Speaker 1: artists as well, not just so yes, yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1: So you know they used to call it abductions or
Speaker 1: now they say experiences and things like that. So right
Speaker 1: off the bat, when you're first encounter happened, is that
Speaker 1: what you did? You know what was happening or did
Speaker 1: you just was just a big puzzle in the beginning
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: So my whole story here is that a lot of
Speaker 3: the contact was obscured from so there really was like
Speaker 3: two people me, the guy who was living out his
Speaker 3: normal life, and then the guy actually having contact. And
Speaker 3: though the contact was influencing or impacting the other guy,
Speaker 3: the other guy would never know about it until many,
Speaker 3: many a year later. And so when it was happening,
Speaker 3: the aliens actually framed it that I was one of theirs.
Speaker 3: So it had a much more relational thing going on.
Speaker 3: They said I had their DNA. They called me one
Speaker 3: of theirs, and even when I was a child, all
Speaker 3: the memories came out. Yeah, they're saying, you are our children.
Speaker 3: And I was with other children at the time, so yeah.
Speaker 3: They then when they were showing up, you're not framing
Speaker 3: it as abduct and uh, yeah, you're not really framing it.
Speaker 3: You're just framing it as relational. So they're showing up
Speaker 3: again kind of idea and yeah, and they always and
Speaker 3: they was. It was. Yeah, it was happening in a
Speaker 3: way that you didn't have a lot of time to
Speaker 3: self reflect. And once they showed up, they're busy. You're busy,
Speaker 3: and they're busy, and uh, and they're there to get
Speaker 3: something or there's an exchange or there's information or something
Speaker 3: that is happening. But yeah, I did reflect it. I
Speaker 3: did call it an abduction, but it didn't for having
Speaker 3: no better words. When I was twenty years old and
Speaker 3: I and this was happening to me, there was a
Speaker 3: period where I called it an abduction without but it's
Speaker 3: not like all these years laterally're like, no, that's not
Speaker 3: an abduction. I think an abduction is being taken against
Speaker 3: their will, and they were. There was no experience of
Speaker 3: There were some rough periods, but in general, I was
Speaker 3: never being taken against my will.
Speaker 1: How are you saying that you suppressed the memory when
Speaker 1: you say they're two people?
Speaker 2: Is that what you mean by that.
Speaker 3: I didn't suppress the memory, but their world, I think is.
Speaker 3: I think there's several things going on. One is that
Speaker 3: they gave a command to the sixteen year old before
Speaker 3: when it was all kind of starting up, all the
Speaker 3: contact would start up, they gave the command, and you're
Speaker 3: also in an alternate, altered world. You're in an altered
Speaker 3: part of your own mind or your own consciousness. And yeah,
Speaker 3: and then they have an ability to make sure you
Speaker 3: don't look at this, and I agreed, that's the insanity.
Speaker 3: Looking back all the years later, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm the one who actually was excited. I was excited,
Speaker 3: believe it or not. And then they put a command
Speaker 3: into me at that time, and so I if there
Speaker 3: was missing time, which there was a couple of times,
Speaker 3: I just kind of questioned it and then didn't think
Speaker 3: about it. It's like that, and then and then you
Speaker 3: just move on and then you forget and or you
Speaker 3: see an org. I saw a I had a close
Speaker 3: encounter with an orb, and I felt something had happened,
Speaker 3: and then I just forgot about it. So it's like
Speaker 3: that it was events like that were occurring, and I
Speaker 3: wasn't giving it too much thought, but there would be
Speaker 3: there was too much variety. Also, the aliens, when they
Speaker 3: interact with you, they can do a variety of They
Speaker 3: can they can be in your life in a variety
Speaker 3: of different ways. So physical is one of them. But
Speaker 3: you know, they can pull you out of your body.
Speaker 3: They can stop time. So there's a variety of things
Speaker 3: here that when you are young you don't know what
Speaker 3: to look for. Yeah, they're interjecting in a variety of
Speaker 3: different ways, and then you never catch it. And so
Speaker 3: it's like that and and so when it all gets
Speaker 3: exposed many many a year later, Yeah, it's like these
Speaker 3: different means with which they were interacting with me was
Speaker 3: obscuring my minds in different ways. And they seem to
Speaker 3: be very intelligent about all that and understand all that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have seldom you know, reflected on
Speaker 1: this type of situtionuation.
Speaker 2: Often.
Speaker 1: I mean that if something like this was happening to myself.
Speaker 1: I just said, I don't know how I could function
Speaker 1: in society.
Speaker 3: Or that's why I think you get obscured because you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't, you can't function. It's it's too extreme,
Speaker 3: the stuff is, it's just bunkers. Never mind, they're not
Speaker 3: translating it for you. So you have to eventually figure
Speaker 3: it out as a human on your own. And yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't. I don't think you can. And that's why
Speaker 3: it makes sense to give someone a lot of experiences
Speaker 3: and maybe they're intense like they were for me, and
Speaker 3: then at a later time, what I have more maturity,
Speaker 3: they open up and then you're you're distant enough from
Speaker 3: the effects in your own life that you're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, because yeah, I would have been. There's a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of different things that would have happened had
Speaker 3: I had awareness of the contact earlier.
Speaker 1: Here's a question in chat people, if you are in
Speaker 1: and you want to post a question, please do as
Speaker 1: this person did, and that's all caps. If you would
Speaker 1: do you see events before they happened to sometimes right away?
Speaker 3: So I haven't had any contact since so or okay,
Speaker 3: let's sorry. Let's refrain that. OK, So the physical contact
Speaker 3: that I was having, I haven't had that since twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: and even at that time, I wasn't aware that I
Speaker 3: was having contact. So now it's all kind of like
Speaker 3: this ORB and uap con stuff that's kind of flying around.
Speaker 3: But I haven't had contact like that since. So I
Speaker 3: can't say if I'm you know, if I'm aware of
Speaker 3: it ahead of time or or during it. Even all
Speaker 3: I can all what they are for me is a
Speaker 3: stack of memories about these exposure around weird events that
Speaker 3: were in my life and sometimes with other people, and
Speaker 3: even they weren't aware that that was that's the result
Speaker 3: of you know, contact, And so yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 3: a that's just the nature of this case or of
Speaker 3: my story, you know.
Speaker 1: And what do you what did you feel is though
Speaker 1: they wanted from you.
Speaker 3: So my story is a bit strange and different and interesting,
Speaker 3: I think, and unique, I guess, and I think most
Speaker 3: of them the longer I've been in this, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of everything is unique. There's they just don't
Speaker 3: repeat things. It's so fascinating actually, And so I had
Speaker 3: a very bizarre event happened to me when I was
Speaker 3: twenty years old and I was nineteen ninety seven. And
Speaker 3: that's what I call a consciousness event. So you can
Speaker 3: just say it was well, it's God awareness. But it
Speaker 3: was like it altered my body. That's the most crazy part.
Speaker 3: I saw the cells of my body have light in them. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's a bit wu, but what happens
Speaker 3: when it's real. What happens when you it alters you
Speaker 3: on the inside. And there was a message to leave
Speaker 3: my life. So there was combined with the spiritual idea
Speaker 3: of like a you know, you know, I think it's
Speaker 3: called a well and anyway I think of like an
Speaker 3: indigenous like you know, leaving a tribe and then kind
Speaker 3: of going into the forest. I think there was actually, ah,
Speaker 3: I know the Aboriginals had in Australia had a ritual
Speaker 3: like this, and it's something like that where I kind
Speaker 3: of I felt I was being told to do this,
Speaker 3: and it was combined with this alteration. And when I
Speaker 3: did it, that's when I began seeing anomalous activity in
Speaker 3: the sky and and I had you know, close encounters
Speaker 3: with a couple different things and objects, and so what
Speaker 3: I didn't know was happening was that event altered my biology,
Speaker 3: which they initiated. Then when I was traveling, they were
Speaker 3: taking my biology. So there was like a hybridization thing
Speaker 3: that was going on and or that they were taking
Speaker 3: it for, and so it altered my DNA basically, and
Speaker 3: so upon doing that, though, they were telling me things,
Speaker 3: so it was kind of like an exchange. So you
Speaker 3: do this and then we'll tell you what's going on.
Speaker 3: And so I was and it was like a slow moving,
Speaker 3: compliant thing, and then it got harry in the end
Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety eight, the fall of nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: but it was never they never the hybridization or all
Speaker 3: that biological stuff lasted for a year in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: and they stuck around after that, so they it was
Speaker 3: biologically focused for a period and then they stuck around.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they gave me information, so like what they
Speaker 3: were doing with the hybrids and why why they were
Speaker 3: even doing that, and yeah, and the whole point was
Speaker 3: that they planned to put themselves here and yeah, so
Speaker 3: that was the gist of it. Is kind of like
Speaker 3: a then they knew that what was happening here was
Speaker 3: something unique. I guess because they're the ones who told
Speaker 3: me eventually they would come back. So they came back
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, and they were the ones saying, your
Speaker 3: memories are here. Now you're able to you know, access these,
Speaker 3: and then you need to write it out and tell
Speaker 3: your world what happened. And so they were the ones
Speaker 3: who wanted me to tell everybody that they're coming. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of the gist of it. And there will
Speaker 3: be a city is basically how it got framed and
Speaker 3: and so that's why. So I have a book, The Rising,
Speaker 3: by the way, for your audience, not that I'm selling
Speaker 3: my book, but that everything's documented, so I'm not making
Speaker 3: anything up on the spot here. Everything's documented and for
Speaker 3: transparency really and especially with alien contact, I think that's
Speaker 3: very important. So yeah, that's what they did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: They told me to tell the world that they're coming and.
Speaker 1: From where from where are they coming? Well, they didn't
Speaker 1: really terrestrial or I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this has been an ongoing relationship. So I
Speaker 3: have more knowledge about that now than I did at
Speaker 3: the time actually, so it's very interesting where the contact
Speaker 3: they were. They remained elusive about their origins, saying there
Speaker 3: were firms that are reticuli at one point, But I
Speaker 3: think I understand more of these things now than I
Speaker 3: did when I was having the contact. So at the time,
Speaker 3: they kind of made themselves out to be stewards, stewards
Speaker 3: of the planet actually almost and that they had seated
Speaker 3: us and that it's time to it. There's time for
Speaker 3: a new human is kind of how they framed it. Actually,
Speaker 3: so an idea of updating DNA or updating genetics, and
Speaker 3: so they framed themselves in this kind of manner that
Speaker 3: they had already helped us in the past and that
Speaker 3: now now there's time to change them something's up and
Speaker 3: to help us even more, I guess you could say.
Speaker 3: So that's how they framed themselves without fully focusing on
Speaker 3: their kind of society. They were more focused on, Hey,
Speaker 3: this happened in the past, and we were involving ourselves,
Speaker 3: and now it's time to update things. I now believe
Speaker 3: they're from originating from and I'm going to say it,
Speaker 3: who knows how it gets handled here from an alternate
Speaker 3: Earth dimension in the future. So I'm pretty convinced that's
Speaker 3: where they're originating from.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's as good of explanation as any
Speaker 1: if you Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Guess, and we don't know right when I feel like
Speaker 3: I know because I feel like I have enough evidence
Speaker 3: to back that up. But yeah, that's what they that's
Speaker 3: what I was shown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about I'm gonna need to know
Speaker 1: a little bit more about what you consider evidence. But
Speaker 1: Mary Grace is asking this question here that I was
Speaker 1: just going to ask you, So, how has your DNA
Speaker 1: changed what happened to you?
Speaker 2: And was it medically documented?
Speaker 3: Medically? Basically, yeah, I healed fast and my body became
Speaker 3: sensitive to to process foods. But you know, when you're
Speaker 3: a twenty year old and this happens to you privately,
Speaker 3: and uh, like who's there to document this stuff? Right?
Speaker 3: Like I can. I documented it happened, that's about it.
Speaker 3: And uh and you know it's like the experiencer, the
Speaker 3: experience or predicament, how much of any of this is documented? Right? Like,
Speaker 3: no one's documenting this content for you. Uh, you're treated
Speaker 3: like you're these are just crazy things, right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: no one documented it though there was a doctor. So
Speaker 3: I actually did get injured and in the almost a
Speaker 3: peak of this kind of just weeks after one of
Speaker 3: these events happened, I punctured my foot and I had
Speaker 3: to go to a walk in doctor, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: healed fast. I healed in a week. Uh. And that
Speaker 3: was just one of the why I considered it one
Speaker 3: of the effects of this thing that had happened without
Speaker 3: understanding what had happened to me. So yeah, No, there
Speaker 3: was no documentation about it except for I mean, if
Speaker 3: someone ever wanted to try and dig that up. That
Speaker 3: was in Victoria, BC here where I walked into a
Speaker 3: medical clinic. So but that's about it, though. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's that's. Yeah, sensitivity to process foods healed quickly. And
Speaker 3: the other was I needed nature. I can't really explain
Speaker 3: that where I needed to be around or in nature,
Speaker 3: and and I felt like I was getting something from it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and that's that's the peak. That's what that
Speaker 3: experience generally was like. And I was living on my own,
Speaker 3: I was isolated, and I was you know, I was
Speaker 3: traveling at that period. That's what the messages were all about,
Speaker 3: was to travel and uh. And then they were showing
Speaker 3: up in the discriminally and periodically, but they were showing up.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: One of they you mentioned that they seeded the planet,
Speaker 1: and that is kind of a discussion I had way
Speaker 1: before I ever got into this with someone that I
Speaker 1: asked a question that supposedly was in a special task
Speaker 1: force in the Air Force. This was an insurance agent
Speaker 1: of mine years ago, and I basically asked him, you know,
Speaker 1: what do they want with us as far as you know,
Speaker 1: as far as the government government knows. And he said
Speaker 1: that we're a Petri dish.
Speaker 3: That was his answer, right, yeah, and it yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a see there's a problem here. I agree
Speaker 3: with that, but it's like half of the picture. See,
Speaker 3: the entities I know originating from the afterlife, And if
Speaker 3: you don't have that perspective or don't take that information in,
Speaker 3: then you don't get what the Petri dish is about.
Speaker 3: And and if you don't know what the Petri dish
Speaker 3: is about, you're going to bed. This stuff is the
Speaker 3: stuff of nightmares. But if you know what their intentions are,
Speaker 3: at least what they're originating from and why they would
Speaker 3: even do that, then the purpose behind it is a
Speaker 3: lot less scary. And the fact is, the entities I
Speaker 3: know respect souls, or they respect the consciousness and the body.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but they do see bodies as this kind
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, I guess container maybe, yeah, probably something
Speaker 3: like that. And I do think that they move around
Speaker 3: in bodies very easily, in amongst their own space or
Speaker 3: dimension or world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when they said, and I'm going to be
Speaker 1: posting some more questions up here on chat here in
Speaker 1: just a minute, thank you all for posting them. But
Speaker 1: when you say stewards of the planet, yea, oftentimes you
Speaker 1: hear people that are hopeful for that, because you know,
Speaker 1: we're very much able to blow ourselves up. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many hundreds of times, but you know, just
Speaker 1: with new nukes alone. But I think people are hopeful
Speaker 1: that it would be stopped by an outside like an
Speaker 1: alien civilization or something stopping it. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: really the case. But what do you mean by stewards
Speaker 1: of the planet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I can only tell you to the degree
Speaker 3: with which I have but they're involvement with us, and then, yeah,
Speaker 3: to the degree. And from what I learned from them
Speaker 3: is that they don't want to you know, the planet's
Speaker 3: at steak here. Actually it is kind of the big picture,
Speaker 3: the planet's at steak, and I do believe they used
Speaker 3: it in the past. And yeah, that's the gist of it.
Speaker 3: I think that they used in the past the planet's
Speaker 3: at steak, and they did seed us, and I'm certain,
Speaker 3: I believe for the purpose of hybridization at a different
Speaker 3: seated this at one point, for the purpose of us
Speaker 3: moving through our genes or moving through you know, you know,
Speaker 3: moving eroding out maybe the bad genes throughout the thousands
Speaker 3: and thousands of years, and then and then while making
Speaker 3: sure that the planet was able to be used. That's
Speaker 3: my best you know understanding.
Speaker 2: Of that, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so yeah, as a steward. But then also
Speaker 3: there's something going on here with the afterlife. There's something
Speaker 3: going on here where the entities are. Yeah, there's something
Speaker 3: going on here where they may have made agreements and
Speaker 3: they may have been doing that for like thousands of
Speaker 3: years and this whole angel stuff, and I actually like
Speaker 3: the entities, I'm i know, kind of like crossover with this.
Speaker 3: And and it's not that they are angels, but you know,
Speaker 3: they may get interpreted that way when they're coming from
Speaker 3: their dimension and then the role that they they're very
Speaker 3: aware of that role, and then they're trying to impact
Speaker 3: humanity in a certain way. So I think that they're
Speaker 3: shape there, that's what you mean by steward. They're shaping,
Speaker 3: They're they're like kind of purposely shaping at times. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the same species, but tears
Speaker 3: of that of that species are definitely all in on
Speaker 3: it together.
Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, here's another question here. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been hypnotized or can you even be hypnotized? But ever
Speaker 1: been hypnotized, you know, as far as like regression any of.
Speaker 3: The Oh, okay, for when I went through to understand
Speaker 3: some of my my memories are flashbacks, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I purposely went into regressions to understand. Regression helped. So
Speaker 3: I had my own memories of what had occurred, but
Speaker 3: you know, they were broken, so I didn't know, I
Speaker 3: didn't understand some of the linear track about a certain
Speaker 3: contact event. I needed a regressionist to help me with
Speaker 3: the emotional to stay in that space. So the regressionist
Speaker 3: helps you. You know, if you're terrified, you don't stay
Speaker 3: in the memory, right, you pull yourself out and then
Speaker 3: the regressionist keeps you there and they say, okay, what's
Speaker 3: happening now, and they help you with that moment and
Speaker 3: to keep you grounded. In the memory so you can
Speaker 3: understand what the hell had occurred to you. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely did.
Speaker 2: Did you did you do that or are you looking
Speaker 2: to do that? No?
Speaker 3: No, I've done it all. It's all done. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what the that's what the story is as an understanding
Speaker 3: about what the hell all that was. I had to
Speaker 3: I had to do it first. I had to understand
Speaker 3: what the hell had happened to me and what they
Speaker 3: had done with me. So yeah, I've done all that.
Speaker 3: I don't have any mysteries about what had happened.
Speaker 1: Now, and you, of course you know when someone's listening
Speaker 1: to this, they're going to say, well, what evidence do
Speaker 1: you have for any of this stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Please shoot, just name something? What what part? What part?
Speaker 3: And I can I can delve into it. Yeah, I'm certain. Okay,
Speaker 3: what what something?
Speaker 1: Physical evidence of any kind do you have? Do you
Speaker 1: have any physical evidence of what what was happening to you?
Speaker 3: Okay, well okay, so what happened? So okay, So well
Speaker 3: for me, I have Okay, there's evidence for you and
Speaker 3: then there's certainty, but what happened to me? So are
Speaker 3: you saying that so like this stuff interacted with my life.
Speaker 3: It shaped me, right, So I I like it is
Speaker 3: the source of that shaping. So like what like give
Speaker 3: an example, Like, so.
Speaker 1: Let's say, what kind of cooperation do you have any
Speaker 1: cooperation from any other person that witnessed what you were
Speaker 1: going through?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, just people in my life Like yeah at
Speaker 3: the time. Uh so, but no one was no, that's
Speaker 3: the point of it all. No one, No one was
Speaker 3: there witnessing the alien contact. And there are definitely some
Speaker 3: people who were there at the time and who are
Speaker 3: part of the contact. And I don't believe they knew
Speaker 3: that they were having or that they were that that
Speaker 3: one event occurred to them. I've reached out to them,
Speaker 3: but there was no there's no desire for them to
Speaker 3: understand that My parents were were slightly involved. My aunt
Speaker 3: and uncle had a close encounter with the UFO. But again,
Speaker 3: you have to want to know that, right, And some
Speaker 3: people don't want to know about it, and that's what
Speaker 3: you live with. Like yeah, and so I have my
Speaker 3: own understood. I mean, you have to think of it
Speaker 3: this way. So okay, Yeah, a pile of a pile
Speaker 3: of memories spawn from an individual, okay, and then a
Speaker 3: bunch of weird events happened to that individual. So yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: sure they're just crazy little memories from a person. But
Speaker 3: then what happens when you start finding the things that
Speaker 3: these entities talked about Other people had heard those things.
Speaker 3: What about the weird bizarre methods they used that your
Speaker 3: brain literally can't make up like a spiral coming out
Speaker 3: of her right eye to hypnotize me and do a
Speaker 3: command into me. Turns out that was in David Jacob's book.
Speaker 3: So you get these weird like I could say, like,
Speaker 3: I actually the game I play is pick a number
Speaker 3: between one and twenty six, and I have twenty six
Speaker 3: contact events with them, and you pick a number, and
Speaker 3: I can tell you like five cooperations from other contact
Speaker 3: these or whistleblower content or government docs, like that's what
Speaker 3: That's the state I'm dealing with here where I have
Speaker 3: all these memories and everything matches. You're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I like, I'm not just right. I actually went through
Speaker 3: this and and it's real and that's the shocker, and
Speaker 3: and so you know, so what do.
Speaker 2: You mean by government government documents?
Speaker 3: What do you Okay, so they're from the alternate Earth
Speaker 3: dimension in the future. It's a good one. To use
Speaker 3: and I'll be using this at UFO con. Well, there's
Speaker 3: a nineteen forty seven document from the FBI vault right
Speaker 3: that explains exactly what I saw. So they are from
Speaker 3: an alternate so so you'd have to pull up that
Speaker 3: document if you don't fully know. But it's so I
Speaker 3: can let me see if I can talk do some
Speaker 3: about the top of my head here. So they document
Speaker 3: explains it's the it's page twenty two of this FBI
Speaker 3: doc that was dated nineteen forty seven, July eighth, nineteen
Speaker 3: forty seven, So like the day of Roswell, And there's
Speaker 3: this document from in the FBI vault available for the public,
Speaker 3: and the entities describe where they're from, and they're from
Speaker 3: an alternate astral plane. It's called well that's what I witnessed.
Speaker 3: It's this other dimension that's stacked. That's like you know,
Speaker 3: the stacked dimensions. I guess is the idea and uh,
Speaker 3: and it's right here. It's linked to our Earth. That
Speaker 3: document explains the same thing I saw, which is part
Speaker 3: of our Earth. So it's a it's an Earth in
Speaker 3: another dimension, is what it is. And they don't mention
Speaker 3: the future, but but you know, Colonel Corso apparently his
Speaker 3: son is speaking publicly about these things and says, yeah,
Speaker 3: we have the docs. So I've got I got, like,
Speaker 3: this is all this stuff I'm putting together for that presentation.
Speaker 3: I got, I got a couple of different you know,
Speaker 3: avenues I'm pulling from. And uh, yeah, some of these
Speaker 3: guys talk about the future. So Colonel Corso's son talked
Speaker 3: about the future, Jacques Valet talks about the future.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that that government doc is an example.
Speaker 3: So I saw this first. And then when I see
Speaker 3: that doc, You're like, oh my god, Like, am I
Speaker 3: supposed to sit here and say no, no, no, I
Speaker 3: just I don't really know guys, or do I say,
Speaker 3: holy crap, I was shown and I know for fact, right,
Speaker 3: that's the difference. And so I'm a confident guy. I
Speaker 3: know what the hell I witnessed, and and I say,
Speaker 3: I know for fact. Now that's my fact, and I
Speaker 3: understand that, and uh and so I have to live
Speaker 3: in a world where people have to interpret that, and
Speaker 3: then they'll hear guys talk like this and then eventually
Speaker 3: they'll figure it out it's real and then that's that's
Speaker 3: how that will move. But right, now I'm a it
Speaker 3: sounds a little bit bunkers, but that's that's that's what
Speaker 3: this is. I know it's coming from an alternate Earth
Speaker 3: dimension in the future. And uh and then so having
Speaker 3: that doc oh, Tom DeLong was the other one who
Speaker 3: was the coroboration there. So Tom DeLong talked about this too.
Speaker 3: So and his information becomes from General that guy who's missing,
Speaker 3: now General mccannister, mckinister, I can remember his name. So
Speaker 3: that guy who's missing is the information where Tom DeLong
Speaker 3: got this information that they are from a future, a
Speaker 3: future time line that is next to us. That's how
Speaker 3: Tom DeLong described it, a civilization alongside our own. So
Speaker 3: that's that's what we're dealing with, is something bunkers like that?
Speaker 3: So right, So like that's that's what I get. So
Speaker 3: I have these experiences, these personal things I'm witness that
Speaker 3: I witness and then I'm stunned by it and it's
Speaker 3: real for me, right, showing in a way or displayed
Speaker 3: in a way that is unequivocable to my personal experience.
Speaker 3: You could say, oh, yeah, they were just playing with
Speaker 3: your head, I guess, but you know, I haven't found
Speaker 3: them to be malicious, yet I haven't found them to
Speaker 3: just play with your head. So I've everything they've been
Speaker 3: doing has been very, very purposeful, and and so I'm
Speaker 3: listening to it and I'm trusting it. And then when
Speaker 3: they do show you something like that, and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're like, oh my god, there's that doc.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that Tom DeLong guy. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: that Jack la Guy. Oh my god. You know that
Speaker 3: Colonel Courso guy. Right, And then I'm now scouring the
Speaker 3: contactee reports. You got Jack John Max reports, and you
Speaker 3: got Grant Karen and contact These often talk about either
Speaker 3: a future Earth or an alternate Earth, and this is
Speaker 3: not uncommon. And so that's what's all being compiled in
Speaker 3: for that UFOCON presentation, and so that's one of the ways.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the type of thing I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's a private experience, and I can't tell
Speaker 3: you or give you evidence that that's the case. And
Speaker 3: that just might be how the phenomenon operates, right, Like,
Speaker 3: look at all of us, Whitley Strieber and everybody, right,
Speaker 3: Willy Streeber did have groups of people who were having
Speaker 3: experiences with him, but his experiences were a lot more
Speaker 3: you could say, less informative and much more just convincing
Speaker 3: the public that this is a real event. But there's
Speaker 3: some people involved with mine, like my wife has seen
Speaker 3: the objects that fly around the home, so she's definitely
Speaker 3: witnessed them, and I have a lot of them on camera.
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a lot of information here and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been given to me, and I can't give cooboration
Speaker 3: for that information. So then what do you do as
Speaker 3: a human? Do you just say it didn't happen? Or
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm guessing right because I know for facts
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff because I do learn more
Speaker 3: eventually that some government guy has got something similar, or
Speaker 3: some S four guy or Linda mooll and how shares
Speaker 3: something with me that that matches what I saw in
Speaker 3: craft And that's the type of that's the type of
Speaker 3: stuff I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2: So well that answers yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going to pull up a couple of
Speaker 1: questions that we have here. Have you had any experience
Speaker 1: with any type of implant?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I got I gotten
Speaker 3: some implants, see I do. Yeah, And what is the
Speaker 3: sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: What is the purpose of that? You know, why would
Speaker 1: you have an implant?
Speaker 2: I mean, what, what is the purpose of it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not like I was explicitly shown
Speaker 3: or told. I guess so when I was sixteen, they
Speaker 3: they put two in my shin, one in my ear,
Speaker 3: and one up my nose. And I'll never learn the
Speaker 3: real reason, but uh, it's I think that they're probably
Speaker 3: able to hear through the ear, and the one up
Speaker 3: my nose does seem to interact with I would say
Speaker 3: that's where the lepathy comes from, or on the or
Speaker 3: the kind of more the more solid form of communication.
Speaker 3: And then you know, when you're scouring reports, you find
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if you've ever seen the
Speaker 3: documentary David Huggins and Love and Saucers, but the same
Speaker 3: thing he has. He has very strong telepathy. He gets
Speaker 3: and he has and he had an object and sized
Speaker 3: up his nose as well too. And I think that
Speaker 3: that's what that's the origin of that of that ability
Speaker 3: is something that they put up my nose and at
Speaker 3: a young age, and and that impacted or impacts that
Speaker 3: that that communication. Uh it it may have some role
Speaker 3: to do with the memory of skeering too. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, and maybe they're recording and I mean that's
Speaker 3: that was said up to me during one of the
Speaker 3: contact events that they were recording in for me from me.
Speaker 3: So yeah. So again like when that whole consciousness event
Speaker 3: happened and then the biological stuff occurred, they were really
Speaker 3: interested in taking from me. So that's that maybe is
Speaker 3: a part of it too, that were recording things and
Speaker 3: and and I'm, you know, some purified body. Then they're
Speaker 3: taking this information and uh, and that's not fully explained
Speaker 3: why they were, what they're taking or what they're taking
Speaker 3: it forward, but they're taking that information my lived experiences,
Speaker 3: I guess you could say.
Speaker 1: So if they're they're coming back here and from an
Speaker 1: alternate alternate Earth, you're saying, is that.
Speaker 3: The best I got? Yeah, alternate Earth dimension? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And are they bringing things back to their future of
Speaker 1: where they're from?
Speaker 3: I mean, I will so, isn't it Jim Semevin is
Speaker 3: that his name? Cia guy who says the UFO truth
Speaker 3: is indigestible? And uh and that's my best guess is that, Uh,
Speaker 3: that's the So you have to like there's a couple
Speaker 3: of weird things about the phenomenon, right, it's always in control, right,
Speaker 3: And and I think the evidence is in that it's
Speaker 3: evolving us. Right. Uh. You know you got UFO Beyond UFOs,
Speaker 3: the academic paper or academic book, right, that's focused on
Speaker 3: three thousand experiencers, right, and every single one of them,
Speaker 3: A lot of them you could say had had an
Speaker 3: expansion of consciousness, right, psychic abilities and such, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that. And you know, you could even say
Speaker 3: the crashes are their attempt to evolve us. Right. So there,
Speaker 3: I think the I feel I'm of that guy. I'm
Speaker 3: that I'm the guy I'm on that road that believes
Speaker 3: that the phenomenon is evolving us while simultaneously remaining in control.
Speaker 3: And uh, and why unless something maybe incomprehensible was going
Speaker 3: to happen, like they were coming here, or some dimension
Speaker 3: was was going to change the dimensional field or electromagnetic
Speaker 3: field that the planet is going to shift, or something
Speaker 3: bizarre are that affects humans in a way that makes
Speaker 3: it okay for them to be here because you know,
Speaker 3: they're a highly telepathic, they're they're they're they're more paranormal.
Speaker 3: I prefer to use the word paranormal because it's not
Speaker 3: just telepathy, it's floating, it's it's uh turning into orbs.
Speaker 3: It's total insanity for humans. And they might be making
Speaker 3: environment more susceptible or easier to be for easier to
Speaker 3: exist in for a being of that nature and for
Speaker 3: all we know it was like that in the past.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but something like that is occurring, Yeah,
Speaker 3: where they're kind of coming back and uh, and they're
Speaker 3: shifting things up that might make us you know, that
Speaker 3: might be a big shift.
Speaker 1: I remember shock La and I were having a discussion
Speaker 1: and this was in Phoenix a number of years ago,
Speaker 1: and basically, you know, talking about the phenomena on what
Speaker 1: it is and and all possibly could be and all that,
Speaker 1: and he mentioned, well, I think it could be a
Speaker 1: lot of things, and then it could possibly be something
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't understand. That kind of sounds like what
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about something that's very hard to wrap
Speaker 1: your brain around. Yeah, you know, I mean I have
Speaker 1: to be open minded because I certainly don't know what
Speaker 1: they are. And you know, so I'm listening to you,
Speaker 1: I'm not It's hard to be convinced of anything from anyone,
Speaker 1: but you know, letting you express you know what what
Speaker 1: you or express appreciate it.
Speaker 3: And that's my role, right, Like, that's the role I
Speaker 3: take on is is to warm up some of these crazy,
Speaker 3: insane ideas and uh yeah, and please push it on,
Speaker 3: like hey, how do you know that? Or why do
Speaker 3: you hear that? Bringing up jacqu Valet is really good
Speaker 3: because you know, I've actually kind of leaned towards like, hey,
Speaker 3: his information keeps matching mine. So so he was his call.
Speaker 3: He did. Ah, he was at the Sole conference and
Speaker 3: his opening speech at the Soul conference there he talked.
Speaker 3: He said something that was very much in line with
Speaker 3: what is going on in my story. So he spoke.
Speaker 3: He said he was at a conference, a computer conference
Speaker 3: something like that. It was in San Francisco, and the uh,
Speaker 3: the Bush's Bush's science advisor was there and and the
Speaker 3: UFO's got not sorry Clinton Science advisor was there, and
Speaker 3: UFOs got brought up. And the guy gave an analogy
Speaker 3: about what the and he called it the UFO problem,
Speaker 3: which is how I think this has been turned out
Speaker 3: to be. It's not just cool little aliens. This is
Speaker 3: a problem for some people. And the analogy was an
Speaker 3: old man walking down the walking down a sidewalks, he's
Speaker 3: a green glowing object in the forest or in the grass.
Speaker 3: He goes and picks it up, and it's a frog.
Speaker 3: And the frog says, if you kiss me, I'll turn
Speaker 3: into a beautiful princess and we can marry. And the
Speaker 3: guy says, I'm too old for this and puts the
Speaker 3: frog in his pocket. And and you know, my whole
Speaker 3: thing is that they want to merge with us. They're
Speaker 3: they're bringing themselves here to merge with us. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I don't quite understand this question from Bobby.
Speaker 1: Bobby is a long long time listener. Have you met
Speaker 1: a family member that has passed with the aliens?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think passed away as someone who's passed on
Speaker 3: and then is maybe on craft maybe. And I've actually,
Speaker 3: funny enough, I have heard of that, but I have
Speaker 3: not experienced that. I have met someone a close experience,
Speaker 3: a friend of mine contact who's public, I won't mention them,
Speaker 3: saw their children before they were born on craft. Yeah,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Yeah, it definitely happens. Weird things like.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, from Mary Grace, when did when you mentioned
Speaker 1: that the aliens are part of an afterlife.
Speaker 2: What did you actually mean by that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go there. H. So they show me the
Speaker 3: afterlife on craft. So that's uh, and you know you
Speaker 3: could maybe you could say, well, that's an illusion. And
Speaker 3: and it was holograms. So it was. What it was
Speaker 3: was the death of my last life arcing to the
Speaker 3: into the afterlife, and then the birth of me, so
Speaker 3: the birth of Jess Salver. So it was like a
Speaker 3: it was a it was a scene, is what I watched.
Speaker 3: It got timeline and they slit, they cut things up,
Speaker 3: but it was I witnessed this, this transformation of So
Speaker 3: I died in a last life and I have like
Speaker 3: I the problem is is that you can't you can't
Speaker 3: fake you know, past life awareness, right, you can't make
Speaker 3: something up and then have it match what was on
Speaker 3: on what you saw from a different angle or perspective,
Speaker 3: which is what they did. So like for me, these
Speaker 3: are internalized experiences. I can't my brain can't make up.
Speaker 3: And not just that. Uh, it was shared I guess
Speaker 3: that's the best way of framing it. It was a shared experience.
Speaker 3: So I was living it while it was while I
Speaker 3: was witnessing something from my past. So it was like
Speaker 3: kind of a present moment past thing cross criss crossing
Speaker 3: at the same time anyway, and and it went into
Speaker 3: the afterlife and then they were there. So the entities
Speaker 3: are there and they make agreements with people and uh,
Speaker 3: and that's what they were showing was and I have
Speaker 3: enough internal experience to know, you know, the it wasn't fake,
Speaker 3: it wasn't false. And it also answered a ton of
Speaker 3: things about my personal life, about how their own engagement
Speaker 3: with it. So it's, uh, you know, you could say,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm convinced of that. Sure, you can definitely say
Speaker 3: that I'm convinced that they were in the afterlife. And
Speaker 3: you could say my own oversoul or this higher energy
Speaker 3: form of me who's not me, who plans lives of
Speaker 3: my life. It's that part of me made it a
Speaker 3: agreement with these things, these these beings, these entities and
Speaker 3: uh and yeah, and I think that that speaks a
Speaker 3: lot to you know, first off, this whole body part,
Speaker 3: this whole body thing. I mean, you can just go
Speaker 3: back to Bob Bazaar, right, and Bob Azar's the crash
Speaker 3: retrieval guy, a crash retrieval Uh. You know, first one
Speaker 3: of the first whistleblowers, right. And his whole thing is
Speaker 3: he saw a document that said, the aliens think of
Speaker 3: us as containers. Uh, you know, you can got the
Speaker 3: ebio geneticist. You can go down that way if you
Speaker 3: want to. And he said the humans that they think
Speaker 3: of us as they think of human embodiment of spirit
Speaker 3: as a means of trying to create self attainment or
Speaker 3: specifically enlightenment is what. But it was using the apocaiopis apotheosis,
Speaker 3: which is God God awareness or God attainment. So the
Speaker 3: entities that I'm interacting with definitely are aware of these
Speaker 3: types of things, aware of you know, the search for
Speaker 3: spirit or the search for soul and uh, and maybe
Speaker 3: them selves are are not uh don't think of themselves
Speaker 3: as the body. So then they're able to, you know,
Speaker 3: have an awareness about other dimensions that the body that
Speaker 3: the spirit goes to. So that's what this was. It
Speaker 3: was an exposure of kind of the behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean so far, Uh, everything I'm interacting
Speaker 3: with displays itself to you know, have that type of uh,
Speaker 3: have that type of awareness when it's engaging with someone.
Speaker 3: It's engaging with someone with a maybe understanding about how
Speaker 3: they'll impact their lives and uh, and what they're going,
Speaker 3: what they're what they're doing, Uh, what the life of
Speaker 3: that person is and you know it's not Is it
Speaker 3: any chance that the aliens chose Whitley Streeber who was
Speaker 3: already an author, right, and then made it made him
Speaker 3: be the On which turned out to be a huge book,
Speaker 3: right and changed a lot of people, and it brought
Speaker 3: the aliens awareness to tons and tons and tons of
Speaker 3: people and uh, and so whitty Streeber was already an author,
Speaker 3: so that's kind of like very interesting, not just that
Speaker 3: he was a horror author and the alien you have
Speaker 3: to be able to approach fear with some of this stuff.
Speaker 3: So there's some interesting things going on there. But regardless,
Speaker 3: that's my personal experience is that they're operating from this dimension,
Speaker 3: or at least that is one of the spaces you
Speaker 3: could say. I'm not really clear on how all that
Speaker 3: gets played out, but yeah, they're very aware of the
Speaker 3: birth and death life cycle. And then if they're interested
Speaker 3: in bodies and managing bodies and then adults starts making
Speaker 3: sense that they're very aware of this birth and death
Speaker 3: life cycle process and they may and the aliens I
Speaker 3: worked with or I'm interacting with make agreements and make
Speaker 3: agreements with souls to facilitate or do things. But with me,
Speaker 3: it was to do what ended up happening to me.
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned earlier on that it was basically your
Speaker 1: job to get to get it out there, to get
Speaker 1: this out there to everybody, and to what end? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is the what do they want to achieve?
Speaker 2: In your mind? What would change by getting this out there?
Speaker 3: I think we're ill prepped. I think that they knew
Speaker 3: some of these things, the Okay government, the GOOV, they
Speaker 3: knew some of these details. And you know, you could
Speaker 3: say maybe there's some peripheral evidence that they did maybe
Speaker 3: Stargate was the result of alien contact, right, and they
Speaker 3: knew something, they learned some things about human consciousness, that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So humans are ill prepped for this
Speaker 3: side of the story. And uh, and maybe the people
Speaker 3: in the gov didn't understand that or maybe they were religious, right,
Speaker 3: So then it does interfere with kind of religious perspective
Speaker 3: and it becomes hard to swallow. So when you have
Speaker 3: a frame of structure, structure about what you think spirituality is,
Speaker 3: so then for whatever reason, we're we're ill prepped, and
Speaker 3: I'm convinced we're in the endgame from what they showed me,
Speaker 3: I'm convinced we're in the end game. We're in we're
Speaker 3: in a period where we should be more prepared than
Speaker 3: we are. And uh, so my role is to just
Speaker 3: talk about my content, and I think the stories laid
Speaker 3: out or the or the sequence of events and what
Speaker 3: happened to me is laid out in a way that
Speaker 3: gives me, you know, confidence about what I know is,
Speaker 3: what I feel I know is is the nature of
Speaker 3: the phenomenon and then uh, and then what it might
Speaker 3: be planning and then yeah, and I can talk freely
Speaker 3: about my personal experiences. Then that helps educate people.
Speaker 1: And and have we ever tried to reach out to
Speaker 1: someone like you know, say lou Elisond or someone you
Speaker 1: know that's really involved or had been involved.
Speaker 3: I've done talks to move on a lot. I've done
Speaker 3: several talks to move on. There's a degree of like
Speaker 3: not knowing who to trust. It's a weird I'm not known,
Speaker 3: I don't know who to trust. And I would I would,
Speaker 3: I would, I would take on anybody who would approach me.
Speaker 3: But there's a weird game going on, and I'm not
Speaker 3: convinced they want all the information out either. I'm not
Speaker 3: really I would listen or talk to anybody, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I've considered things like that and then felt not to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: So I can understand, I can understand, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of thoughts about that. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just pop up this thumbnail right here that the
Speaker 1: background on this. The graphics person thought that that was
Speaker 1: something that you did, you talked about Is that so?
Speaker 1: Is that something you described something similar to that?
Speaker 3: Somewhat interesting? That's a weird synchronicity, But yeah, I was
Speaker 3: working on something just like that just an hour ago.
Speaker 3: Seeing I saw I saw tubes, bodies and tubes, one
Speaker 3: hundred percent said bodies and tubes, and several different occasions
Speaker 3: and when it was like a laboratory, which is my
Speaker 3: eighth I call it. So I've numbered all my contact
Speaker 3: events for references, kind of like even scientific reference, so
Speaker 3: I can go back and talk about things and things
Speaker 3: that I learned and understood about what I witnessed. So
Speaker 3: my eighth contact event, I saw three bodies and tubes,
Speaker 3: and then in the tenth I saw tubes, rows of hybrids,
Speaker 3: all in tubes just like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna pop up some questions we
Speaker 1: have here as times moving along? Here, are there a
Speaker 1: set of numbers that you keep coming across?
Speaker 3: So I can only imagine you're referring to synchronicities, And
Speaker 3: for me it's we are creator beings. So if I
Speaker 3: start making the number one, you know have meaning. For me,
Speaker 3: it's an internalized meaning. I'll start seeing number one everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it starts aligning with different you know, my phone or yeah,
Speaker 3: it can be Yeah, that happens. Yeah, it happens normally. Actually,
Speaker 3: and then if the number four is it takes on
Speaker 3: meaning or the number three, Yeah, I'll start having these
Speaker 3: types of synchronicities. Yeah, and I sometimes consider depending on
Speaker 3: the number I look at that, so yeah, I can
Speaker 3: have that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So this person here says basically that you've been giving
Speaker 1: Usviraal information and he wants to know and experience, you know,
Speaker 1: specific experience that you had or several experiences that you had.
Speaker 1: And just keep in mind, we've got a couple of
Speaker 1: other questions and we're almost out of time here.
Speaker 3: How do I do that? I don't even I don't
Speaker 3: even know where to start if I yeah? Also, yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead, yeah.
Speaker 1: No, no, go right ahead. I'm relaxed about time. We
Speaker 1: don't have to. It's not a heart out.
Speaker 3: So Martin, Martin, pick a number between one and twenty six,
Speaker 3: twenty six, number twenty six. Okain the last contact event? Okay,
Speaker 3: So what happened? I pulled for my bead and this
Speaker 3: bed right here, and my wife was sleeping in the
Speaker 3: bed with me, and so that the night before I
Speaker 3: had actually uh so I had the memories open without
Speaker 3: knowing I had alien contact. So I didn't I didn't
Speaker 3: know how to look at that. I didn't know how
Speaker 3: to look at that period of my life. And I
Speaker 3: felt like I was having I felt something was unresolved,
Speaker 3: and it kept kind of hitting the back of my
Speaker 3: mind and I didn't know what was going on. And
Speaker 3: I spent the night pulling something out of me that
Speaker 3: turned out to be related to them, and so they
Speaker 3: came and uh, and that's a bit too much detail here,
Speaker 3: but I'll just bike. So I got pulled out of
Speaker 3: my bed and I awoke, uh kind of in like
Speaker 3: a haze on craft on a on a craft and
Speaker 3: a single uh tall gray alien was was driving the
Speaker 3: craft and uh, and then there was a sensation that
Speaker 3: we were landing or had landed, and and I was
Speaker 3: being pulled out and I was kind of like dazed.
Speaker 3: I was kind of in a haze. And I was
Speaker 3: being floated out and the alien was walking ahead of
Speaker 3: me and I was being floated out and there was
Speaker 3: no other aliens. They Uh, I was, I was, I was,
Speaker 3: how do I explain this? So because it's everything's related,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I, these aren't single contact events that just
Speaker 3: are what they are. They're in relationship to the store
Speaker 3: or to my relate, they're in relationship to my relationship
Speaker 3: to them. So so right because I'm one of theirs,
Speaker 3: so they were kind of having their eyes on me
Speaker 3: and uh. So yeah, I got basically pulled into a
Speaker 3: space that I could feel a lot of entities were
Speaker 3: looking at me and uh and the room was extremely
Speaker 3: bright and I wasn't able to see. So they didn't
Speaker 3: like that. I was that I spent the night before
Speaker 3: drawing on something. And they were saying, your remembery, like
Speaker 3: you're going to come back to us soon, but you
Speaker 3: can't pull on that and uh and but you're going
Speaker 3: to come back to us soon. Was kind of the
Speaker 3: gist of the telepathy. And uh. And I was made
Speaker 3: to feel guilty for for having w I say, pulled
Speaker 3: on it. I just mean I was I was being
Speaker 3: creative about something that was tied to them, and uh,
Speaker 3: and that I didn't know. I had to own contact.
Speaker 3: That's the best way of framing that. So then they
Speaker 3: were aware of me doing that and uh. And so
Speaker 3: basically I got taken into a medical space. And after this,
Speaker 3: I got floated. I was didn't walk at all. I
Speaker 3: was floated the entire time. And I was put onto
Speaker 3: a medical thing. And what who is here? Is this?
Speaker 3: I call it the leader, So it's it's not a mantid,
Speaker 3: but it's the archetype of the mantid. This didn't didn't
Speaker 3: This thing didn't look like a bug. I call mine
Speaker 3: an ardvark. He had a snout, he had massive eyes
Speaker 3: on this head, big yellow eyes on the side of
Speaker 3: his head. And he's got his hands that do kind
Speaker 3: of have like they're shaped or they're held like this,
Speaker 3: and he's got tools in his hand. And I'm placed
Speaker 3: under him like on a bed, and he's got that
Speaker 3: big eye looking down and he and he makes a
Speaker 3: joke and he says, this one's gonna make great parts.
Speaker 3: So he's talking about me being used for parts. He's
Speaker 3: like hahaha, and he's laughing about it. Uh, so you
Speaker 3: know he's they have some sick humor, I guess. And
Speaker 3: so on my perspective, I could see the crazy eye
Speaker 3: and and then there was my Uh, my body was
Speaker 3: on the courn was on a screen there and like
Speaker 3: the I guess, yeah, like my body, but it was
Speaker 3: like it was it was medical content was associated with it.
Speaker 3: So like I could see into like parts of my body,
Speaker 3: and uh, he was testing things, so I could feel
Speaker 3: him testing. He tested something to do with my ear,
Speaker 3: and there was like a like a testing of the
Speaker 3: the implant and uh, and he he poked at some
Speaker 3: things in my ribs and then he they they instructed
Speaker 3: them the other alien there was like a great alien
Speaker 3: here and extract instructed him to float me up and
Speaker 3: then turn me upside upright, and he put these lines
Speaker 3: on my back and I could feel these etches were
Speaker 3: being scratched into my back and uh, and that's basically it.
Speaker 3: And I was floated back and and when I I'm
Speaker 3: floated back into a craft and then I'm come I
Speaker 3: come back here, and when I come back to the bed,
Speaker 3: I got these massive scratches all over me, and uh,
Speaker 3: and it terrified us, terrified me anyway, and terrified my
Speaker 3: wife too. So at first I didn't notice I had
Speaker 3: to get up. So it was a weird night where
Speaker 3: there was only three hours of sleep because my wife
Speaker 3: was getting was going away, and so I get up
Speaker 3: and I and I go and I have to take
Speaker 3: her and I put on a shirt and I can
Speaker 3: feel them, but I'm not conscious of it just yet.
Speaker 3: Take her to the airport, come back. I roll on
Speaker 3: them and I can feel I'm a discomfort, but I'm
Speaker 3: still not thinking about it until I'm in the shower.
Speaker 3: And once I'm in the shower, they sting. And that's
Speaker 3: when I take a look and I take a shot.
Speaker 3: I ask, you know, a picture, and yeah, there's these
Speaker 3: massive scratches and they're perfect, like they are perfect lines
Speaker 3: like I don't know how to frame it, like here's
Speaker 3: a book, but like just like a line all over
Speaker 3: the place, and but they're perfect and and it makes
Speaker 3: no sense to me. It seems paranormal. At that time,
Speaker 3: I was having paranormal activity that was kind of like
Speaker 3: really ramping up, doors, opening, things went missing, coming back.
Speaker 3: Things like that were occurring all over the place, and
Speaker 3: so this just seemed to write in line with it,
Speaker 3: and it terrified us. So I thought it was paranormal.
Speaker 3: And I took a picture of it. But you know,
Speaker 3: you're you're alone in this stuff, and you're not thinking
Speaker 3: someone's gonna take this seriously or think it's that or this.
Speaker 3: So we were terrified of it, and I didn't like
Speaker 3: having the picture, so I deleted the picture. And all
Speaker 3: these years later, I've done everything I could to see
Speaker 3: if I could, you know, iPhone backups or whatever, I'd
Speaker 3: see if I could grab that, and I couldn't. So but
Speaker 3: she saw it and it got sent to her as
Speaker 3: well too, and and then she was terrified and she
Speaker 3: didn't know the origins of it and didn't understand, like
Speaker 3: we just kept arguing about it. I didn't go anywhere,
Speaker 3: right like, I didn't go anywhere. I sat there, you
Speaker 3: were there, what the hell? And you know, she's confused.
Speaker 3: I was confused. And then it got left like that,
Speaker 3: and we didn't understand the origin of it, and and
Speaker 3: and then all the years later, once the flashbacks started occurring,
Speaker 3: that night was deeply associated with that crazy creature I saw,
Speaker 3: So this thing with the yellow eyes with cat slid
Speaker 3: eyes and the weird, weird eyes on the side of
Speaker 3: his head, who I would actually see several times in
Speaker 3: the contact events but hadn't seen for years at that point.
Speaker 3: And and there was a sense of familiarity. Even when
Speaker 3: I'm memories were exposed, there was these broken memories of
Speaker 3: this crazy ass creature and uh yeah, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's how it ended. And I won't have that
Speaker 3: was only no more physical contact events like that. Everything
Speaker 3: else now it was from like the present is all
Speaker 3: uap and and like lepathy from craft and stuff. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was the last. That's how it ended.
Speaker 3: Is kind of a you'll come back to us soon, yeah, mhmm.
Speaker 2: How about siblings? Do you have any siblings?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have two brothers, Yeah, two older two older brothers.
Speaker 2: And have they ever had anything happen?
Speaker 3: Uh no, Well they were involved without knowing they were involved,
Speaker 3: and as a youth, as a as a kid, but
Speaker 3: they don't they don't identify with it or they don't understand,
Speaker 3: and they don't know, and there's nothing, there's nothing. Anomalists
Speaker 3: in their life. The only one who had some type
Speaker 3: of anomalous activity is my mum and and she had
Speaker 3: like out of body experien is when she was younger,
Speaker 3: and uh and and that was it. And then my
Speaker 3: aunt my uncle had a close encounter with the UFO.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's about it.
Speaker 1: And what are your do your brothers know that you
Speaker 1: talk about this now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think they just they all they
Speaker 3: just don't know. Okay, they don't know what to make
Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, okay, crazy. And I think there's there's
Speaker 3: steps of this too, right, there's okay, this happened to me,
Speaker 3: and then there's this happened to me, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: there's a story or there's this message behind it. And
Speaker 3: then there's the third level, which is, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this happened to me. There's a story about it. Now
Speaker 3: I got to tell everybody about it. And so when
Speaker 3: you go down that rabbit holder, like everyone's kind of
Speaker 3: oh okay, whatever you say, And uh, you know, I
Speaker 3: I dug I dug into some of this and in
Speaker 3: different ways. They were around at certain periods and they
Speaker 3: saw some weirdness in my life, but they could never
Speaker 3: understand how it would be linked up to something like
Speaker 3: as insane as as an alien contact.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm hmm. Let's see.
Speaker 1: This person wanted to know, have you ever had a
Speaker 1: cat scan?
Speaker 3: No, but I this is the type of stuff like
Speaker 3: I want blood done, like apparently I have their genetics.
Speaker 3: I believe it. I felt it. So yeah, please, No,
Speaker 3: I don't. I've never had a cat scan. I've never
Speaker 3: had my DNA take in. I'd like to be hooked up.
Speaker 3: I'd like to be a laboratory rat regarding all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better watch what you wish for.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm done with it with complete
Speaker 3: you know, you know you control on Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: to receive the information. If I don't trust the person,
Speaker 3: they will keep it for themselves, right, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: got to make sure that we can share this situation
Speaker 3: with the public. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's another question on the top down or citizens up disclosure.
Speaker 1: Can you address the possibility that disclosure cannot and won't
Speaker 1: be coming from government but has to come from person
Speaker 1: by person or gathering minds what youat from that.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I don't believe it can happen. I think that
Speaker 3: that't funny enough. I A, I have an MBA and
Speaker 3: I studied leadership and uh, and you know the brain
Speaker 3: behind leadership, and you need a leader. You need a leader,
Speaker 3: and you need the world You need a world leader
Speaker 3: to address the reality. Without a world leader addressing the reality,
Speaker 3: you have everyone guessing of what the hell is going on.
Speaker 3: And even if there's pockets that come up that say
Speaker 3: this is that, this is this, those pockets don't match
Speaker 3: other pockets, and then that just creates conflict and you're
Speaker 3: having the inconsistency you're it's it's true. There is a
Speaker 3: degree where we do affect each other, and we are
Speaker 3: positively affecting each other. But I've been at this for
Speaker 3: five years and the pockets pop come up and then
Speaker 3: they die down. Pockets come up and then they die down.
Speaker 3: And you do need leadership. You do need a leader
Speaker 3: to to to to set because here's an example. Uh,
Speaker 3: David Grush says nhi. Now everyone says nhi right once.
Speaker 3: Once that word nhi came in. Now we're saying, oh,
Speaker 3: that's how we frame it, and then we all internalize
Speaker 3: that information, and that's how we structure or handle some
Speaker 3: of our information. You need leadership otherwise you're gonna have
Speaker 3: one person say it's this, and then another person say no,
Speaker 3: it's that, and and the phenomenon is actually hard to contain.
Speaker 3: So you do need kind of some type of structure
Speaker 3: of leadership to help with that process.
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple more questions here. What do the entities
Speaker 1: call themselves?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, Eh, what do they call themselves? Or do
Speaker 3: they Yeah, they've never I've never heard a name. I've
Speaker 3: never heard a species name. The impression I or, at
Speaker 3: least from my understanding, they are so old that they
Speaker 3: may not even identify with certain things anymore. They might
Speaker 3: not identify with some labels like like species names. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a great question. And I don't know how they
Speaker 3: identify themselves. I don't know the answer to that. I
Speaker 3: just know that they're their spirits, so their their energy forms,
Speaker 3: and that's the that's the most of And I do
Speaker 3: understand some of their where they're where they're originating from,
Speaker 3: with their with their quantum stuff or their tech. But
Speaker 3: that's that's the gist of it.
Speaker 1: I gone, are you in a dream state during your experiences?
Speaker 3: Some but not all? Yeah, some but not all. Some
Speaker 3: are in real time with no dream state, Some are
Speaker 3: in frozen they stop time. Can you wrap your head
Speaker 3: around that they stop time, and then when they do that,
Speaker 3: you're in an altered state of your consciousness. But that's
Speaker 3: not dream state. And I wouldn't even say dream state.
Speaker 3: I've had asked, I've had bilocated astral projection where you
Speaker 3: materialize on their craft insane as it is, and and
Speaker 3: that's not it's kind of dreamy, but it's not a
Speaker 3: dream state. So it's not. Yeah, it's maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit of a distinction.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people that believe that there's
Speaker 1: something going on with time involved in this whole phenomena.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a time element for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, another question here from Christopher in your communication and observation,
Speaker 1: have you seen or heard agreement or debate between NHI
Speaker 1: regarding what to do about us about Earth?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been you can say, hinted at, yeah with
Speaker 3: with yeah, some version of that, I guess you could say,
Speaker 3: where they do think of us as out of control. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so like they can't handle us or can't manage us.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean managers in control, but maybe you
Speaker 3: can't work with us or can't What actually how it
Speaker 3: got framed in contact was your world is under siege
Speaker 3: from within, and hard decisions will have to be made.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, now when you start unraveling, and if you
Speaker 3: want to, like I don't want to want to go
Speaker 3: into the E files, right, those E files. But they
Speaker 3: they knew something about UFOs, and you start and then
Speaker 3: you start learning. Dick Cheney was on top of all this, right, like,
Speaker 3: there's something going on here where there was something's under siege. Yeah,
Speaker 3: some they were keeping information from the public and it's
Speaker 3: caused problems. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh no, here's another one here.
Speaker 1: Have you ran into any that make it clear that
Speaker 1: they don't like you or are jealous, jealous of you,
Speaker 1: or in any type of way.
Speaker 3: No, no alien has ever been jealous. No, I've never
Speaker 3: had that. And and no, it's so it's a really
Speaker 3: interesting game. Yeah, they I think human ignorance hasn't annoyed
Speaker 3: them or has annoyed them, even with me at the
Speaker 3: time at times. But there's always a respect of the spirit.
Speaker 3: This is like, I know it sounds hard to believe,
Speaker 3: but the entities I knew respected spirit and uh, and yeah,
Speaker 3: the human ignorance could piss them off. I think they
Speaker 3: could get annoyed with human ignorance.
Speaker 1: And about tribal our tribal nature where we're killing each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think anyone would, you know, looking from the outside in,
Speaker 1: would think, oh, what a mess. You know, these people
Speaker 1: are so violent and you know if they try to
Speaker 1: figure out ways to kill each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff like that. For them, it's like kindergarten, Like
Speaker 3: not killing your not killing your same species is like
Speaker 3: basic fundamental planet stewardship. Yeah. And yeah, it's stuff like
Speaker 3: that that I'm I'm aware of that that there's a
Speaker 3: there's a degree where humans. Yeah, okay, so imagine, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a time thing that's hard to swallow, there's a
Speaker 3: spiritual thing that's hard to swallow, an afterlife thing combined
Speaker 3: to that paranormal thing. They'll combine together human potential thing
Speaker 3: that we're kind of not fairly clear about. And then
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, there's also a maybe maybe not judge us.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they judge us, but you might
Speaker 3: have to get prepped for a mind frame of a
Speaker 3: species looking down and saying, why what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like as a as a collective, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: And and I know we have good intentions, but you know,
Speaker 3: maybe we could have done some things differently, and they're
Speaker 3: looking and watching that. Yeah, so we have I think
Speaker 3: the ideas get prepared for something like that.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Well, it's been really a very curious and
Speaker 1: interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: I have to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it, Martin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you, and have a great time this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a great little conference you're going to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Martin, thanks for having me. Thanks everybody, thanks
Speaker 3: for being patient. Yeah, it's good. You appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, very good, thank you.
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