WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:18.679 Hello, and welcome to the show at Martin willis your host, 2 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.559 and Happy Saint Patrick's Day. And why is my screen 3 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.679 blue and not green because I was messing around before 4 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.679 the show and I can't change it, so I can't 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.640 even change it back to normal to have my normal background. 6 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.920 But that's okay. It's not a bad color. 7 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:36.479 I like it. 8 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.039 So just a couple of things we are. Our guest 9 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.399 tonight is Jeff Silver. I'm really looking forward to speaking 10 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.759 to him and this coming weekend he's going to be 11 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.000 out at UFO con, which I was at last year 12 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.799 and spoke at last year, and so you know, it's 13 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.280 a I don't know if they do any live stream 14 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.159 from there or not. I'm not really sure. But that's 15 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:57.880 if you ever get a chance to go up to 16 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.320 northern California about this time the year. 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.359 Every year, it's a great little conference up there. 18 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.439 So the blog this week by Charles Lear is Silver 19 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.840 Suited Humanoid Reports. This goes back as you know, he 20 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.840 is a Charles Lear if you've been paying attention to 21 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.159 the show for over the years, he is a history 22 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:20.200 buff when it comes to UFO, so he does a 23 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:23.480 lot of research and this is back in nineteen seventy three, 24 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.879 and there were also reports back in nineteen seventy seven. 25 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.159 So he reports on all that in this week's blog. 26 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:35.719 That's over at podcastufo dot com. Thank you all for 27 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:36.200 being here. 28 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:36.560 Thank you. 29 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:39.480 Someone said the blue looks good, but yeah, I did 30 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.040 try to switch it to green for St Patrick's say. 31 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.400 It just didn't happen. But that's the way it is. 32 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.920 So I'm looking forward to my guests. Just before I 33 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:53.159 forget next week, I have Jay Hammon on now. Jay 34 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:55.040 Hammond is a pre record because I'm going to be 35 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.239 away from all phone service and sell service and everything 36 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.799 next week. However, the show is pre recorded, it's going 37 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.120 to premiere at the same time next week. A premiere 38 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.199 means you just have to find it on my channel 39 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.120 and it will pop up at the right time the 40 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.680 same time, and you can be in chat and participate 41 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.400 in chat just like you always do. 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I will not be participating, 54 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.800 but I hope you are in chat. And I know 55 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.520 that dispatch center. He's always going to be there. He'll 56 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.439 be there as in many people that are the regulars, 57 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.120 the usual suspects, as they say, one quick little thing 58 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:12.400 housekeeping here is And I know Christopher, you're in chat 59 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:16.199 and you really liked the vertical view, the cell phone view. 60 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.599 I had many more complaints than people that liked it. 61 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.719 So I decided that we are not going to run 62 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:26.120 the vertical view any longer, just with all the plaints 63 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.439 I had on it, people not finding the right stream 64 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:34.199 and all that and getting frustrated. So I am ah Monica, welcome, 65 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:34.840 good to see you. 66 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.520 So here we go. Welcome, Jeff, nice to have you. 67 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.120 Yeah, thanks Martin, thanks for having me. It's good to 68 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:42.759 see you and Jeff. 69 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:47.039 You have a long history of things been happening all 70 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.680 the way back. Well, I say long, but relatively long. 71 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.879 Nineteen ninety seven you had something, is that when things 72 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:54.639 began with you. 73 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:59.240 That's when things began for Yeah, you could say that's 74 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.400 where the weird beginning of the weird. Yeah, you call 75 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.479 it that way high strangeness. Yeah. 76 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:04.919 Uh. 77 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.280 And I always like to ask people ahead of time, 78 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:12.360 did you ever have any you know, interest in the 79 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.080 topic of UFOs et cetera ahead of time? 80 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:20.560 Uh? Yeah, So as a kid, I watched Unsolved Mysteries. 81 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.319 Yeah and uh and then you know those kind of 82 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.279 books of the strange, lockness, monster, big foot type stuff. Yeah, 83 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.480 and uh and not just transmuted to uh. When I 84 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.399 was sixteen years old, I really wanted to learn more 85 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.439 about aliens actually, and and a girlfriend at the time 86 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.439 referred me to Whitley Strieber's Communion and that was in 87 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.519 nineteen ninety three and uh and so I read that 88 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.879 and that actually spawned a contact event behind my life 89 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.040 and at the time I didn't know it. And uh, 90 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.879 so that was it. That was the three books, I 91 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.360 kind of I think you had three. Transfer Communion. I 92 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.079 think Transformation was another, and there was a third and 93 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.560 then that was the end of it, and yeah, I'm 94 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.639 into more spiritual content. For a period of my life 95 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.360 while I was traveling, having weird events happened to me, 96 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.680 and then that was it. I was a musician, and 97 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.040 then I grew up as an adult and I stopped 98 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:18.120 focusing on all these topics until it all unraveled for 99 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.240 me in twenty nineteen. 100 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.480 Yeah, I should do a survey of how many people 101 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:28.639 that I have as guests that are musicians, because it's 102 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:29.480 like there's so. 103 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:30.360 Many of them. 104 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.279 I don't know if there's any relation to that, but 105 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.199 I did a pre record with Jay next week. He's 106 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:42.959 a musician songwriter. But yeah, constantly, almost all my guests 107 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:47.040 have some type of musical interest or are musicians of 108 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:48.160 one kind or another. 109 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.800 Yeah, are you amazing that? Yeah, Yeah, it's right brain 110 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.759 instead of a I think you can't be too analytical 111 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.319 about this content. Not to say that when you're looking 112 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.079 back at it, but when you're going through it. I 113 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.680 think that you need to have a bit of that 114 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.920 that feeling of surrender that you have in the creative role, 115 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.079 like the you got a song to play, you got 116 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.199 you've got that creative thing going on. You have kind 117 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.959 of an internal surrender that you kind of learn to 118 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:20.800 let go of that the maybe more analytical people uh 119 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.160 don't know how to do. And uh, I think there's 120 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.319 something like that. I think there's handling the abstract and 121 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.079 all those kind of ideas that make you that are 122 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:33.160 predispositions for for alien contact, believe or not. I believe it. 123 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.759 Yeah, and also artists, I should say that you're right, 124 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:43.439 artists as well, not just so yes, yeah, how about that? 125 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:49.319 So you know they used to call it abductions or 126 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:53.120 now they say experiences and things like that. So right 127 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:55.759 off the bat, when you're first encounter happened, is that 128 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.759 what you did? You know what was happening or did 129 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.879 you just was just a big puzzle in the beginning 130 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:02.160 for you. 131 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.560 So my whole story here is that a lot of 132 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:09.600 the contact was obscured from so there really was like 133 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.920 two people me, the guy who was living out his 134 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.279 normal life, and then the guy actually having contact. And 135 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:21.839 though the contact was influencing or impacting the other guy, 136 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.800 the other guy would never know about it until many, 137 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.000 many a year later. And so when it was happening, 138 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.079 the aliens actually framed it that I was one of theirs. 139 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.759 So it had a much more relational thing going on. 140 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.480 They said I had their DNA. They called me one 141 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:47.160 of theirs, and even when I was a child, all 142 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.439 the memories came out. Yeah, they're saying, you are our children. 143 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.600 And I was with other children at the time, so yeah. 144 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:59.399 They then when they were showing up, you're not framing 145 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.560 it as abduct and uh, yeah, you're not really framing it. 146 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.519 You're just framing it as relational. So they're showing up 147 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.800 again kind of idea and yeah, and they always and 148 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:12.360 they was. It was. Yeah, it was happening in a 149 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.319 way that you didn't have a lot of time to 150 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:19.600 self reflect. And once they showed up, they're busy. You're busy, 151 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.920 and they're busy, and uh, and they're there to get 152 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:25.079 something or there's an exchange or there's information or something 153 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:29.000 that is happening. But yeah, I did reflect it. I 154 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.759 did call it an abduction, but it didn't for having 155 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.320 no better words. When I was twenty years old and 156 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.879 I and this was happening to me, there was a 157 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.960 period where I called it an abduction without but it's 158 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.639 not like all these years laterally're like, no, that's not 159 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.960 an abduction. I think an abduction is being taken against 160 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.159 their will, and they were. There was no experience of 161 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.399 There were some rough periods, but in general, I was 162 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:54.960 never being taken against my will. 163 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.320 How are you saying that you suppressed the memory when 164 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:00.919 you say they're two people? 165 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:01.879 Is that what you mean by that. 166 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:09.559 I didn't suppress the memory, but their world, I think is. 167 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:12.159 I think there's several things going on. One is that 168 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.960 they gave a command to the sixteen year old before 169 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:17.960 when it was all kind of starting up, all the 170 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.039 contact would start up, they gave the command, and you're 171 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:25.000 also in an alternate, altered world. You're in an altered 172 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:29.279 part of your own mind or your own consciousness. And yeah, 173 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:33.200 and then they have an ability to make sure you 174 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.200 don't look at this, and I agreed, that's the insanity. 175 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.120 Looking back all the years later, you're like, oh my god, 176 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.360 I'm the one who actually was excited. I was excited, 177 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.360 believe it or not. And then they put a command 178 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.120 into me at that time, and so I if there 179 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.279 was missing time, which there was a couple of times, 180 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.360 I just kind of questioned it and then didn't think 181 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:55.960 about it. It's like that, and then and then you 182 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.720 just move on and then you forget and or you 183 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.720 see an org. I saw a I had a close 184 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.200 encounter with an orb, and I felt something had happened, 185 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.759 and then I just forgot about it. So it's like 186 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.240 that it was events like that were occurring, and I 187 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.360 wasn't giving it too much thought, but there would be 188 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.919 there was too much variety. Also, the aliens, when they 189 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.879 interact with you, they can do a variety of They 190 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.399 can they can be in your life in a variety 191 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.080 of different ways. So physical is one of them. But 192 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:24.840 you know, they can pull you out of your body. 193 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.519 They can stop time. So there's a variety of things 194 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.799 here that when you are young you don't know what 195 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.080 to look for. Yeah, they're interjecting in a variety of 196 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.279 different ways, and then you never catch it. And so 197 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.639 it's like that and and so when it all gets 198 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.759 exposed many many a year later, Yeah, it's like these 199 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.159 different means with which they were interacting with me was 200 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.840 obscuring my minds in different ways. And they seem to 201 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.480 be very intelligent about all that and understand all that. 202 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:59.159 Well, you know, I have seldom you know, reflected on 203 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:00.960 this type of situtionuation. 204 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:03.240 Often. 205 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.200 I mean that if something like this was happening to myself. 206 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.399 I just said, I don't know how I could function 207 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:13.000 in society. 208 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.559 Or that's why I think you get obscured because you can't. Yeah, 209 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:21.840 you can't. You can't, you can't function. It's it's too extreme, 210 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:25.600 the stuff is, it's just bunkers. Never mind, they're not 211 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:28.080 translating it for you. So you have to eventually figure 212 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.879 it out as a human on your own. And yeah, 213 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:32.720 you can't. I don't think you can. And that's why 214 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.039 it makes sense to give someone a lot of experiences 215 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:38.039 and maybe they're intense like they were for me, and 216 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:41.039 then at a later time, what I have more maturity, 217 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.320 they open up and then you're you're distant enough from 218 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.159 the effects in your own life that you're like, oh 219 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:50.679 my god, because yeah, I would have been. There's a 220 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.399 whole bunch of different things that would have happened had 221 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.480 I had awareness of the contact earlier. 222 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:59.759 Here's a question in chat people, if you are in 223 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.879 and you want to post a question, please do as 224 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:05.120 this person did, and that's all caps. If you would 225 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.480 do you see events before they happened to sometimes right away? 226 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.200 So I haven't had any contact since so or okay, 227 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:17.480 let's sorry. Let's refrain that. OK, So the physical contact 228 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.720 that I was having, I haven't had that since twenty seventeen, 229 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.240 and even at that time, I wasn't aware that I 230 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:25.799 was having contact. So now it's all kind of like 231 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:29.120 this ORB and uap con stuff that's kind of flying around. 232 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.360 But I haven't had contact like that since. So I 233 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.360 can't say if I'm you know, if I'm aware of 234 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:37.919 it ahead of time or or during it. Even all 235 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.039 I can all what they are for me is a 236 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.919 stack of memories about these exposure around weird events that 237 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.840 were in my life and sometimes with other people, and 238 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.519 even they weren't aware that that was that's the result 239 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:54.799 of you know, contact, And so yeah, it's kind of 240 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.159 a that's just the nature of this case or of 241 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.080 my story, you know. 242 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:00.960 And what do you what did you feel is though 243 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:02.000 they wanted from you. 244 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:09.120 So my story is a bit strange and different and interesting, 245 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:10.879 I think, and unique, I guess, and I think most 246 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.360 of them the longer I've been in this, I think 247 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:17.159 a lot of everything is unique. There's they just don't 248 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:22.120 repeat things. It's so fascinating actually, And so I had 249 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.480 a very bizarre event happened to me when I was 250 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.679 twenty years old and I was nineteen ninety seven. And 251 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.120 that's what I call a consciousness event. So you can 252 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:36.519 just say it was well, it's God awareness. But it 253 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.759 was like it altered my body. That's the most crazy part. 254 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.879 I saw the cells of my body have light in them. Now, 255 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.120 you know, maybe that's a bit wu, but what happens 256 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.240 when it's real. What happens when you it alters you 257 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.399 on the inside. And there was a message to leave 258 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:53.200 my life. So there was combined with the spiritual idea 259 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:55.919 of like a you know, you know, I think it's 260 00:13:55.919 --> 00:14:00.240 called a well and anyway I think of like an 261 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.559 indigenous like you know, leaving a tribe and then kind 262 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.559 of going into the forest. I think there was actually, ah, 263 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.879 I know the Aboriginals had in Australia had a ritual 264 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.240 like this, and it's something like that where I kind 265 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.600 of I felt I was being told to do this, 266 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.240 and it was combined with this alteration. And when I 267 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.000 did it, that's when I began seeing anomalous activity in 268 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.679 the sky and and I had you know, close encounters 269 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:28.039 with a couple different things and objects, and so what 270 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:32.279 I didn't know was happening was that event altered my biology, 271 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.159 which they initiated. Then when I was traveling, they were 272 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.519 taking my biology. So there was like a hybridization thing 273 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.320 that was going on and or that they were taking 274 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:47.039 it for, and so it altered my DNA basically, and 275 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:51.000 so upon doing that, though, they were telling me things, 276 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.080 so it was kind of like an exchange. So you 277 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.480 do this and then we'll tell you what's going on. 278 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.399 And so I was and it was like a slow moving, 279 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.679 compliant thing, and then it got harry in the end 280 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:04.759 of nineteen ninety eight, the fall of nineteen ninety eight, 281 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.360 but it was never they never the hybridization or all 282 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.600 that biological stuff lasted for a year in nineteen ninety eight, 283 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.559 and they stuck around after that, so they it was 284 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:18.120 biologically focused for a period and then they stuck around. 285 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.440 But yeah, they gave me information, so like what they 286 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.919 were doing with the hybrids and why why they were 287 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.399 even doing that, and yeah, and the whole point was 288 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:32.000 that they planned to put themselves here and yeah, so 289 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:34.559 that was the gist of it. Is kind of like 290 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:39.360 a then they knew that what was happening here was 291 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.519 something unique. I guess because they're the ones who told 292 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.960 me eventually they would come back. So they came back 293 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.399 in twenty sixteen, and they were the ones saying, your 294 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.240 memories are here. Now you're able to you know, access these, 295 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.200 and then you need to write it out and tell 296 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.240 your world what happened. And so they were the ones 297 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.679 who wanted me to tell everybody that they're coming. So 298 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:04.840 that's kind of the gist of it. And there will 299 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.039 be a city is basically how it got framed and 300 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:09.639 and so that's why. So I have a book, The Rising, 301 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.799 by the way, for your audience, not that I'm selling 302 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.519 my book, but that everything's documented, so I'm not making 303 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:19.000 anything up on the spot here. Everything's documented and for 304 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.120 transparency really and especially with alien contact, I think that's 305 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.279 very important. So yeah, that's what they did in twenty sixteen. 306 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:31.639 They told me to tell the world that they're coming and. 307 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.799 From where from where are they coming? Well, they didn't 308 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.039 really terrestrial or I mean. 309 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.480 Yeah, so this has been an ongoing relationship. So I 310 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.440 have more knowledge about that now than I did at 311 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.559 the time actually, so it's very interesting where the contact 312 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.879 they were. They remained elusive about their origins, saying there 313 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.200 were firms that are reticuli at one point, But I 314 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:55.080 think I understand more of these things now than I 315 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:58.960 did when I was having the contact. So at the time, 316 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.320 they kind of made themselves out to be stewards, stewards 317 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.480 of the planet actually almost and that they had seated 318 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.240 us and that it's time to it. There's time for 319 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.440 a new human is kind of how they framed it. Actually, 320 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:15.079 so an idea of updating DNA or updating genetics, and 321 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.039 so they framed themselves in this kind of manner that 322 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.799 they had already helped us in the past and that 323 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.519 now now there's time to change them something's up and 324 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.880 to help us even more, I guess you could say. 325 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.960 So that's how they framed themselves without fully focusing on 326 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.599 their kind of society. They were more focused on, Hey, 327 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.519 this happened in the past, and we were involving ourselves, 328 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.519 and now it's time to update things. I now believe 329 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.000 they're from originating from and I'm going to say it, 330 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.680 who knows how it gets handled here from an alternate 331 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.839 Earth dimension in the future. So I'm pretty convinced that's 332 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:48.839 where they're originating from. 333 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.000 Well, you know, that's as good of explanation as any 334 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:52.960 if you Yeah, I. 335 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.359 Guess, and we don't know right when I feel like 336 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.039 I know because I feel like I have enough evidence 337 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:01.160 to back that up. But yeah, that's what they that's 338 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:01.880 what I was shown. 339 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.839 Yeah, and we'll talk about I'm gonna need to know 340 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.440 a little bit more about what you consider evidence. But 341 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.119 Mary Grace is asking this question here that I was 342 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.880 just going to ask you, So, how has your DNA 343 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.039 changed what happened to you? 344 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:17.880 And was it medically documented? 345 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:24.480 Medically? Basically, yeah, I healed fast and my body became 346 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:28.200 sensitive to to process foods. But you know, when you're 347 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.960 a twenty year old and this happens to you privately, 348 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.440 and uh, like who's there to document this stuff? Right? 349 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:36.839 Like I can. I documented it happened, that's about it. 350 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.240 And uh and you know it's like the experiencer, the 351 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.839 experience or predicament, how much of any of this is documented? Right? Like, 352 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:49.039 no one's documenting this content for you. Uh, you're treated 353 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.799 like you're these are just crazy things, right, So yeah, 354 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.440 no one documented it though there was a doctor. So 355 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.160 I actually did get injured and in the almost a 356 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.160 peak of this kind of just weeks after one of 357 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.720 these events happened, I punctured my foot and I had 358 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:05.079 to go to a walk in doctor, and yeah, I 359 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.440 healed fast. I healed in a week. Uh. And that 360 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.119 was just one of the why I considered it one 361 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.880 of the effects of this thing that had happened without 362 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:16.960 understanding what had happened to me. So yeah, No, there 363 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.680 was no documentation about it except for I mean, if 364 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.119 someone ever wanted to try and dig that up. That 365 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.839 was in Victoria, BC here where I walked into a 366 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:28.839 medical clinic. So but that's about it, though. Yeah, but 367 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:33.640 that's that's. Yeah, sensitivity to process foods healed quickly. And 368 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.079 the other was I needed nature. I can't really explain 369 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:41.400 that where I needed to be around or in nature, 370 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.680 and and I felt like I was getting something from it. 371 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.599 And yeah, and that's that's the peak. That's what that 372 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.599 experience generally was like. And I was living on my own, 373 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.119 I was isolated, and I was you know, I was 374 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.480 traveling at that period. That's what the messages were all about, 375 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.079 was to travel and uh. And then they were showing 376 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.160 up in the discriminally and periodically, but they were showing up. 377 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:04.519 You know. 378 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.680 One of they you mentioned that they seeded the planet, 379 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:12.200 and that is kind of a discussion I had way 380 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.920 before I ever got into this with someone that I 381 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.240 asked a question that supposedly was in a special task 382 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.359 force in the Air Force. This was an insurance agent 383 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.640 of mine years ago, and I basically asked him, you know, 384 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:28.640 what do they want with us as far as you know, 385 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.880 as far as the government government knows. And he said 386 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.039 that we're a Petri dish. 387 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.559 That was his answer, right, yeah, and it yeah, it's 388 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.720 it's it's a see there's a problem here. I agree 389 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:43.839 with that, but it's like half of the picture. See, 390 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:48.039 the entities I know originating from the afterlife, And if 391 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.160 you don't have that perspective or don't take that information in, 392 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.200 then you don't get what the Petri dish is about. 393 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.200 And and if you don't know what the Petri dish 394 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:03.119 is about, you're going to bed. This stuff is the 395 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.319 stuff of nightmares. But if you know what their intentions are, 396 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:09.920 at least what they're originating from and why they would 397 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:13.880 even do that, then the purpose behind it is a 398 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.759 lot less scary. And the fact is, the entities I 399 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.680 know respect souls, or they respect the consciousness and the body. 400 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.880 And yeah, but they do see bodies as this kind 401 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:28.519