WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:08.240 Welcome to Stories of Special Forces Operators podcast. Listen to 2 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.679 some of the bravest and toughest people on the planet 3 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:23.280 share their stories, Sit back and enjoy. 4 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.239 Welcome back everybody. Today we have a great guest, Guy Smith, 5 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:33.600 Special Operations Veterans Swick. Also you can find more about him. 6 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:35.960 He's a performance and mindset coach. You can find him 7 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:41.399 a Guy Smith Underscore IFBB pro Guy Smith Underscore IFBB pro. 8 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.280 He also does preparation training for individuals who want to 9 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.399 become a seal, SWICH, Special Forces and SWAT. He helps 10 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:49.719 with the selection process. So you definitely want to go 11 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:53.520 check out Guy Smith Underscore ifbb pro before we get 12 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:55.840 started and talk to Guy about his career and Special 13 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.280 Forces and a whole lot more. You know what to do, share, subscribe, 14 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:00.799 hit that like, and you know we like it. It's 15 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:02.840 not wasting any more time working on the show, mister Smith. 16 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.280 Welcome sir, Hey doctor Carlos, thanks for having. 17 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.439 Me, Thank you for being here. Now. I always start 18 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:11.680 off with the first same question and everybody probably get 19 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:12.959 sick of it, but I don't know if they do 20 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.959 or not. My question is what motivated you to get 21 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.519 into Special Forces? A lot of guys that I've interviewed, 22 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.000 some say Navy Seal movie, it's been how young you are, 23 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.480 and then they go back to Green Berets, Rambo, things 24 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.200 of that nature. Was it a movie, was it a parent? 25 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.799 What was it for you? 26 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:33.359 You know what? I think we all kind of have this. 27 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:35.519 You know, we're kind of cut from the same cloth, right, 28 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:39.799 Guys that are very much attracted to the action, to 29 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:44.680 doing something very different. That's always been me. I'm no different. 30 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.200 I loved all the movies as well. I grew up 31 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.319 in south central Los Angeles. You know, I was surrounded 32 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.480 by you know, gang violence, gangs, you name it. I've 33 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:56.640 seen drug addicts all over the place, and that was 34 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.079 just something that I did not want to be a 35 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.319 part of. You know, I had an uncle that was 36 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:04.239 in the LA Sheriffs too, so he was very much 37 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.079 an instrumental figure in my life. And so I looked 38 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:08.479 up to those kind of men. I looked up to 39 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:12.360 the brave warriors, the soldiers, the commandos, and that's what 40 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:14.879 I wanted to be since I was as far back 41 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:15.680 as I could remember. 42 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:18.800 Yeah, that makes it actually, if I can ask you, you 43 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:20.919 don't mind what part of LA what city? 44 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.639 Yeah, I grew up in Watts So that's pretty much 45 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.000 the heart of South Central, right there between Century and 46 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:30.680 Central Avenue, now right across from will Rogers Park. I 47 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.199 think now it's called Ted Watkins Park, but you know, 48 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:36.400 I grew up in the heart of it during the 49 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.319 you know, mid nineties, early nineties, right until I was 50 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.759 about fourteen. I left South Central in two thousand and 51 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.960 so I saw quite a bit, you know, lived through 52 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.599 the Rodney King riots. You know, watched my city burn 53 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:52.120 to the ground during that time. You know, chaos in 54 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.199 the streets, you name it. I'm not just painting that 55 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.479 kind of picture, but that's just the way it was, right. 56 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.120 But also I had an incredibly awesome and diverse of 57 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:03.319 bringing too. You know, there was a lot of Latino 58 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:07.520 families that lived in my community too, and so I 59 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.800 grew up with you know, the Latin culture as well. 60 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.400 You know, I had some great families in my community. 61 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.560 But unfortunately, you know, there was just a little bit 62 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.560 of that negativity that we had with the gangs and 63 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.719 so that just random mock. But you know, fortunately I 64 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.360 had an incredible family that looked out for me and 65 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.800 kept me out of those things, always pushed me to 66 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.719 do better right. Education was really big and valued in 67 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.759 my home, and staying out of the street life was 68 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.000 incredibly valued impressed upon me, you know, at an early age. 69 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.159 And so, like I said, I never wanted to necessarily 70 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.599 be a gang member partake in that kind of life. 71 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.520 You know, I always set my goals high, and like 72 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.439 I said, I always wanted to be a commander. Since 73 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:46.800 they won. 74 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.840 As you know, as we talked before the interview a 75 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.319 few weeks ago, our show is a little different as 76 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.199 we kind of look at the Special Forces psychologically a lot. 77 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:56.599 Yeah. 78 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:58.439 So yeah, you kind of answered the question I was 79 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.319 going to ask, which was what made you not join 80 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.439 the gangs. I have a couple of friends that were 81 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:09.120 LAPD and LA sheriffs, Fred Reynolds and Wayne Caffey. Wayne 82 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.919 Caffey worked in the gang unit, and he said, you know, hey, 83 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.879 I had cousins and brothers that were in gangs, but 84 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:17.720 my mom. I was more scared of my mom and 85 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.720 dad than I was about the gangster. You made an 86 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.519 interesting comment. I wonder if you encountered this. He said, 87 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.879 when some of my cousins, when I contemplated for a 88 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.040 second to join the gangs, they told me no, you 89 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.480 have it together. You got people that love you. Don't 90 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.120 get into this world. Did you ever encounter that by chance? 91 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:42.480 Yeah? I did. I did very much. And I'd say 92 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.279 it was mostly from the older guys, you know, the 93 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.279 so called ogs right in the neighborhood. They knew my 94 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.959 family very well. I think my family was well respected 95 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.199 because they knew that we weren't a part of that 96 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:56.879 kind of life. And so there were times where I 97 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.360 would kind of go outside with some of the neighborhood 98 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.079 kids and you know, I'd try to walk down the 99 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.560 street with them, and you know, a few houses down 100 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:09.199 was kind of like this really pivotabal, you know, really 101 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.720 instrumental family in the community, the rock Childs pay Out. 102 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.240 Don't mean to throw their name out there like that, 103 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:19.240 but man, there they were heavy into the gangs, right, 104 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.800 And I'm walking down the street and I would hear 105 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:24.720 one of the uncles from the house. 106 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.319 Guy, boy, you better get back inside the house. You know, 107 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.240 you're not supposed to be out there hanging out these boys. 108 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.600 Get your ass back in the house, right. And so 109 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:33.800 that was kind of interesting, you know, where like I said, 110 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.079 the older guys really looked out and they were like, no, right, 111 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.160 they understood because I think they just came from a 112 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.959 different era where it was a little bit different. 113 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.360 Back then. It wasn't so much all the gang violence 114 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.920 back when they were coming up in like the early sixties, 115 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:47.879 and you know, the mid sixties through the seventies, I 116 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.680 think things started to change a little bit. So they 117 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:53.160 were coming from a different breed, and so I think 118 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.879 they saw where my family was going and saw, I guess, 119 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.839 maybe the potential that I could have and would not 120 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.720 allow that at all. Whereas the younger guys coming up, 121 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.319 it was a little bit more about trying to you know, 122 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.519 a doctrin eight guides into the gang and you know, 123 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:11.279 build it out. And they said the violence had peach tremendously, 124 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.000 especially when I was coming up with my preteens, and so, 125 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:18.160 you know, besides just the neighborhood older guys, but you know, 126 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.279 my household, my grandmother, like I said, she was definitely 127 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.120 more terrifying than anything else that I would encounter out 128 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.000 in the streets, you know. Same for my mother, same 129 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:27.920 for my sister. And a group with three women in 130 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.000 the house that were just really on me, you know, 131 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.399 and I was very much like themand of the house 132 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.120 and so they all kind of played a critical role 133 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.360 in guiding me and steering me and raising me, you know, 134 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.800 to just think different and just being better and take 135 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:43.839 on that role of being the man of the house. 136 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.839 They did a wonderful job. That's great, great testimony to them. 137 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.120 And it's interesting you mentioned that because I know I've 138 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.319 talked to some gang experts and they have changed over 139 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.079 the years of the last several decades there. Oh yeah, 140 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.839 level of respect is gone out the window. They don't 141 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:03.360 really care. It's really bizarre. It's unfortunate. Yeah times we live. 142 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.040 In Yeah it is, Yeah, it is. You know, I 143 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:07.959 just for this day, I still don't like to go 144 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.560 down to la at all, you know, for that reason. Right, 145 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.560 It just there's something lost there. You know, when I 146 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.399 was coming up, you did have the older people in 147 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.560 the community, there still was you know, you showed that deference, 148 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.319 you showed that respect to the elders U and I 149 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.240 think just has those people died on and you were 150 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.639 kind of just left with the newer generation and now 151 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.839 they're older. They kind of weren't brought up in that 152 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.680 world of showing respect, and now it's just all about 153 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.680 you know, clout and you know murder, and I mean 154 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.160 it's insane. Man. It's a whole different environment now. 155 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.000 Absolutely, I continue to profile another Special Forces guy. You 156 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:47.240 do you have any siblings? 157 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:49.879 I do, Yeah, I'm gonna you know. I have a 158 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.959 half brother and half sister. You know, I don't keep 159 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.519 up with them very much, unfortunately. You know, our lives 160 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:57.519 win in different directions. But you know, I've been to 161 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:58.639 the middle, the middle. 162 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.920 Baby, You're okay. We're always trying to look as I know, 163 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:06.160 the overwhelming majority so far has been either the onlies 164 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.800 or the oldest is what we kind of see. And 165 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:10.560 if there's a five year gap or bigger than you 166 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:13.600 becoming only again. So we did have a few youngest, 167 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.639 but they were like five or seven years apart. I 168 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.199 think we only have one anomaly. But everybody seems to 169 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:25.120 be fitting right into the criteria. Yeah, yeah, so okay, 170 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.639 so nobody in your family. You just always wanted something 171 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.199 of excitement. Did you look for Special Forces while in 172 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.000 high school? Is that something you were saying, this is 173 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:33.200 what I'm going to do when I get out of 174 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.440 here or how did that go? 175 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.799 Yeah, it's interesting the trajectory of my wife, right, you know, 176 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:44.679 growing up I was always kind of under the illusion 177 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.360 that I had asthma, that I was a sickly kind 178 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:51.240 of kid, right, and so I it was kind of 179 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.519 a pipe dream for me. Right, always kind of looked 180 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.720 up to those commandos. Always read the books. I always 181 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.919 watched the movies and documentaries on Navy sales, Special four, 182 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.639 the Sweat Guys, you name it. And so what I 183 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:06.279 looked to do was kind of uphold those values, those 184 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:11.360 standards of being physically prepared, being mentally tough. And so 185 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:14.879 moving forward, you know, I got into martial arts. I 186 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.919 love martial arts. I loved wrestling, you know, jiu jitsu 187 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.840 was starting to come up to UFC was starting to 188 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:22.320 come up in the early days, and so I'd go, 189 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.080 you know, to like Blockbuster and the video stores and 190 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.759 go to the back special interest section, man and I 191 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.120 do watch in the UFC, And that just captured my heart. 192 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:32.919 I knew it that that was the thing that I 193 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.120 was gonna do. Right, If I couldn't be a special operator, 194 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.480 I wanted to be a fighter warrior, you know. So 195 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.679 I looked up to like the Kevin Randolman, the Mark Coleman's, 196 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.600 you know, the Mark kerrz Ken Shamrocks, you name it, 197 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.240 Don Fry, Like, those guys were the people that I 198 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.600 looked up to. I love boxing too, so obviously Mike 199 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.759 Tyson was a hero of mine, and so it was 200 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.519 always I've always been attracted to that warrior spirit, that 201 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.480 warrior culture. Fast forward to high school, I'd get into wrestling, 202 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.399 and then I really get my first taste of what 203 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.240 it's like to really put out, to really train hard, 204 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.840 to really have to dig mentally tough, to push yourself 205 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.399 through the major major physicalood mental adversity like that. I 206 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:10.960 had a great coach in my life that really kind 207 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.879 of took on a father figure type of role mentor 208 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.039 for me, showed me what a like a family man, 209 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.440 a real man is supposed to be and how to 210 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:20.840 you know, deal with loss, you know, how to win 211 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:25.279 with grace and excellence discipline. I'm and then fast forward 212 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.240 out of high school, I maintained by connection with the 213 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:32.679 wrestling community, got really into jiu jitsu and coaching wrestling, 214 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:36.279 and I guess that's where the story picks up. You know, obviously, 215 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:40.840 you know I moved out down to San Diego. You know, 216 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.240 met my wife there, met my you know, started my 217 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.960 family there, but I got into wrestling and coaching h 218 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.639 MMA guys because when I went down there, there wasn't 219 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:51.559 a lot of wrestling going on. Everybody was in the 220 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.080 jiu jitsu kind of the movie TI stuff, but to 221 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.759 find a really high quality, high level wrestling just wasn't there. 222 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.440 So I met some great friends, got in with like 223 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.960 the Marine Corp Wrestling team and anyway guys that would 224 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.039 come into our gym turned out to be Navy seals, 225 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:09.519 right and special ops guys. And then man, it just 226 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.559 kind of blossomed from there. Right. I just was like, Okay, 227 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:14.440 you know, I'm training with these guys. I'm working out 228 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:16.519 with these guys in front of these guys, and they 229 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.320 would tell me, man, like, you should just try it. 230 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.120 You know, you're out here training eight hours a day. 231 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.399 You're kicking our ass, Like he want you, just go 232 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.120 for it. And I ended up watching a video back 233 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.480 in the old MySpace days. Right, the buddy of mine 234 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:30.960 that was in high school with I just kidd was 235 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.480 not the biggest toughest guy. He was much younger than 236 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.600 I was, you know, by the time I graduated. I 237 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.480 think maybe he was like a sophomore or something like that. 238 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.600 But Anyway, I'm looking at pictures of him, and he's like, 239 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.399 each week he's like getting prepared for my business trip, 240 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.679 and his beard would get bigger and bigger and bigger, bigger, 241 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.480 look tough, looks strong, look muscular. What the hell's going on? 242 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:49.879 And then he's post a picture or a video of 243 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.399 himself jumping out of an airplay and I hit him 244 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:54.960 up and he's like, yeah, man, you know, I'm a 245 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.600 Navy seal, and I'm like, holy shit, this kid can 246 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.120 do it. Then I need to go out there and 247 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.399 try it. And so that's kind of how it led 248 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.919 into me, you know, get into special operations, man, I 249 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.360 mean my life, just the trajectory I was on just 250 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.240 kind of constantly put me in front of those kind 251 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:12.279 of people. And so God will and I made it. 252 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:17.039 That's fascinating. I guess I love wrestling. I love jiu jitsu. 253 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.360 I think wrestling is a great discipline for guys angirls, 254 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:25.919 especially for self defens Queer's question for you is, since 255 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.200 you are involved in selection prep for a lot of 256 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.960 these different areas, would wrestling be something you'd recommend to 257 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.879 high schoolers or middle schoolers that say this could give 258 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.320 you the mental toughness that you're going to probably need. 259 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.399 You know what, one hundred percent, but it's not for everybody. 260 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.080 You know, you're going to really find what you're made of, 261 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.799 you know, especially when you're in a fight, when you 262 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.000 have to put your physical well being and life everything 263 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:51.720 on the line. That's when you really find out what 264 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:53.399 you're made of. Man, and wrestling is going to pull 265 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.440 that out of you. And you know, it's not surprising 266 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.639 that a lot of the most successful team guys I know, uh, 267 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.840 we're former wrestlers, man, or former fighters or former boxers, 268 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.039 no doubt about it. So if it's you know, in 269 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.960 special operations law enforcement is a track that you want 270 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.399 to go into, then yeah, I would definitely recommend at 271 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:15.159 least learning how to fight, you know, and I mean 272 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:17.600 really not just being a street warrior tough guy that 273 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.840 certainly helps with grit and toughness, but to really, you know, 274 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.919 understand the discipline of martial arts and how to push yourself. Absolutely, man, 275 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.960 it's going to pay dividends, no doubt about it. 276 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.559 I have to give this a caveyat because I have 277 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.120 to start off at a different level here, because you're 278 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.000 obviously an extremely big guy, now. 279 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.240 Thank you. There's a lot of bigger dudes. 280 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:44.879 Prior to that. When I've interviewed other seals or special ops. 281 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.200 I know you're in Swick as well, but when I've 282 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.120 interviewed them, they said, you know, I looked at these 283 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.679 guys and they were like six three and two hundred 284 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.120 and ninety pounds, and they were lifting trees and throwing 285 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.639 them around, and I thought for sure they were going 286 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.639 to make it, but they were gone the first two weeks. 287 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.039 I don't think you look like this going through the 288 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.080 Navy Seals or the Swick program, the Special Forces program. 289 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.879 Did you were you really small? Did you feel the 290 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.960 same thing? Did you feel like these guys, there's some 291 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.799 guys here that like, you know, they're going to run 292 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:17.039 me over like the fridge, William Perry whatever, or what 293 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:18.840 was your thought process on that? Did you think you 294 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:20.320 had to be bigger and stronger or not. 295 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.840 You know, I've always been a bigger guy, bigger than 296 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:27.279 I guess most I would. I don't know. I'm only 297 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.000 six foot tall, but I've always had a muscular frame, 298 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.759 and so yeah, in my mind I thought that that 299 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.159 would be great, right, I thought it would be super beneficial. 300 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.639 Fast forward I'd get to the beach right in Cordnado 301 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.039 for training and you got to mix bag. You got big, tall, 302 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.960 strong football players, former MLB guys, former whatever, and then 303 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.480 you've got these tiny, scrowny pencil neck geeks too, and 304 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.639 you would be surprised. You would think it'd be the big, strong, 305 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.000 grambo looking guy that's going to crush it. And note man, 306 00:14:58.039 --> 00:14:59.679 I mean those would often be the guys that are 307 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.600 out and so obviously kind of an anomaly of being 308 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.960 one of the bigger guys to make it through. And 309 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.039 I think it just has something to do. You know, 310 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.399 obviously it's very physical, but it's quite mental too, right, 311 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.279 And you know, you can't put a percentage it's fifty 312 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.919 to fifty. It's you've got to have that combination of 313 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.200 both that right, synergy of both physical toughness and grit 314 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.519 and mental toughness. And I think when guys are really 315 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.720 big and they come in and you know, they kind 316 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.440 of maybe dominated their way through sports because their physical 317 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.519 prowess and they really didn't meet any adversity when they 318 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:37.080 come to the selection course. Like that's the whole point 319 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.320 of the course. It's an attrition course. It's designed to 320 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.240 break you down. So if you haven't really developed that adversity, 321 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.320 that ability to overcome adversity, or you haven't faced a 322 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.600 lot of it because you're just physically large and intimidating 323 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:51.200 and you just kind of pumble through people in the 324 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.919 high school or whatever, that's not going to farewell for 325 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.639 you out on the beach man. You're going to get exposed, 326 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.360 you know. So it has to be deeper than that. 327 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.000 The can't just be all about size and muscle. So, 328 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:04.759 very very long answer. I took a short question. 329 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.000 No, that's great. Is it actually reminded me a little bit? 330 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:10.759 Is it somewhat similar to jiu jitsu what you probably 331 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.600 found too. There's a lot of guys are they can 332 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.360 muscle their way through and it doesn't happen. 333 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.720 Yell for them. Oh yeah, yeah. I've definitely had my 334 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.559 fair share of ass kicking, it's for sure, and I 335 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.639 appreciate it. And that's what I'm talking about right there, 336 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.279 because it does you know, like you know, Mike Tice 337 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.759 of Fantasy said, everybody's got a plane until they get 338 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.120 hit in the face, right, And it's the same with 339 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:32.399 jiu jitsu. Right, every every wrestler is going to go 340 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.759 in until they get ankle locked right, and so you 341 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.159 either adapt and overcome or you know you're gonna get 342 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.399 jacked up. And so that's where you know, fighting comes 343 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.639 into play. It really brings that out of you. You 344 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.159 really learn how to think, underfeed and overcome adversity. You 345 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.360 had to dig deep, man, when you get that feeling 346 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.480 and you gut like you've got a puke and oh 347 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.159 my god. You know, I thought I was stronger than 348 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.480 this guy and he's like a tiny hundred fifty pound guy. 349 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.240 You're two hundred fifty pound guy. But you can't break them, like, 350 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:58.480 you got to go somewhere else mentally there. You can't 351 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.200 just rely all on your strength. You know, you got 352 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.039 to develop that middle toughness aspect too. You know, you 353 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:05.079 got to be able to think on your feet, got 354 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:08.079 to be dynamic. So that's what the selection of course 355 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.319 will do. You got to have that right combination of 356 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.279 physical toughness midtal toughness, you know, to make it through. 357 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:16.680 And I know we'll talk a little bit more about 358 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:18.799 that a little later on as well as we get 359 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:20.640 to your program and to figure that out as well 360 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:22.960 as performance and mindset. Again, folks, you can find more 361 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.839 about Guy Smith over at Guy Smith Underscore IFBB Pro 362 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:33.000 Guy Smith Underscore IFBB Pro on Instagram. It's I don't 363 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.720 think I've shared this story on Special Forces before, but 364 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:37.240 it's kind of funny. That reminds me of my first 365 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.200 jiu jitsu experience. At the time. I was about the 366 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.119 same height as you, about two ten at the time, 367 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:46.640 like to work out, and I remember winning going and 368 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.319 going into the jiu jitsu studio. The head guy was 369 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.000 a friend of my brothers, and he said, well, you're 370 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.920 going to train with my assistant, who was about one 371 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.119 hundred and fifty pounds five six And I thought, really, 372 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.279 come on, And the assistant kneeled on the ground, turn 373 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.119 his back to me and said, do whatever you want. 374 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.160 Your goal is to get me on the ground and submit. 375 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:07.039 I said, well, this guy is going to be a 376 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:10.480 cake walk. I remember grabbing him and all I remember 377 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.960 is somehow he got me in an armbar. I lifted 378 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.200 him up in the air and held him up in 379 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.200 the air and he looks at me and he goes, 380 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.759 what are you gonna do? So I said, well, I 381 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:21.960 can slam you. He goes, if you slam me, I 382 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:26.240 break your arm. So I said oh, well I can 383 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:29.240 do this. Well, I'll break your arm. I said, I'm 384 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.440 gonna put you down gently. That was my lesson. I 385 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.559 couldn't muscle my way through that one. We obviously became buddies. 386 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:41.640 But oh yeah, that's that's the other thing too about 387 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.079 jiu jitsu, man, is like I'm I'll probably sell of 388 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:47.599 my closest friendships or relationships to that community. You always 389 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:49.960 going to meet a bunch of diverse, great people. Like 390 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:51.599 I said, I mean, I wouldn't be where I am 391 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.400 now if I wasn't for jiu jitsu and wrestling, you know, 392 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:59.319 in the relationships I made out of that. But yeah, 393 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:04.279 you know, into if you are a smaller guy, that's 394 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:06.640 not a disadvantage either. You know, like I said, your 395 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.640 your heart and mental toughness and courage, that all has 396 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.359 to be conditioned and cultivated, you know, over overcoming adversity 397 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:17.680 throughout your life. You know, you're not just born with that. 398 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.319 You know, you've got to really really develop yourself as 399 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:23.599 an individual be able to push through times. And so 400 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.200 if you you know, whether you were born into tough 401 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.079