Speaker 1: It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy
Speaker 1: Boston new video.
Speaker 2: We are talking about Donald Trump's meeting today in the
Speaker 2: Oval Office with Canadian Prime Minister, the new Canadian Prime Minister,
Speaker 2: Mark Carney. I watched it in its entirety, and I
Speaker 2: thought it was a very professional conversation between two men
Speaker 2: who obviously came from very different backgrounds, who do not
Speaker 2: see idle eye on some important issues, but both of
Speaker 2: whom comported themselves professionally and diplomatically. That's my take on it.
Speaker 2: There was none of this silliness where he referred to
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Karney as Governor Leslie did with Trudeau. I
Speaker 2: just would love to know. And again, we hope hear
Speaker 2: from some Canadian listeners, and I see we already have
Speaker 2: a couple on the line, but we're just going to
Speaker 2: get right to calls. I think he enjoys trolling people.
Speaker 2: I think he enjoys living in the minds of inside
Speaker 2: the brains rent free of his opponents. The Alcatraz thing
Speaker 2: is the same story. I mean, I was out in
Speaker 2: Alcatraz a year ago, a little more than a year ago,
Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you that that's a museum. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's fallen into total disrep here. There's no effort,
Speaker 2: even inside Alcatraz to restore it to what it was.
Speaker 2: It's a lovely tour, don't get me wrong. But you
Speaker 2: walk through there and you realize that the cells are
Speaker 2: falling apart, the toilets which are in the cells have
Speaker 2: the dilapidated it's it's not like it was restored. You
Speaker 2: were looking at it at the ravages of time on
Speaker 2: the building, the buildings over the last half a century.
Speaker 2: At a minimum, I would talk, I'll take a lot
Speaker 2: lot of time and effort, and the obviously the symbolism
Speaker 2: is great. Would he like to put something like that
Speaker 2: back in the hometown of Nancy Policy. I'm sure he'd
Speaker 2: love to. He'd probably like to open a prison next
Speaker 2: to her on she lives on Broadway in uh in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Let's go to the phones, Okay, I'm more
Speaker 2: interested in what you think. I mean. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Mike and Beverly. Mike, you're next on Nightside, first
Speaker 2: this hour.
Speaker 3: And I said, Mike, go right ahead, Hey, Dan, good
Speaker 3: anything Hawaii.
Speaker 4: I can hear me, I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Just fine, you go right ahead, Mike, listen to people.
Speaker 4: Don't people understand the Canada thing is about jobs, bringing
Speaker 4: John's back to America.
Speaker 3: Dan, That's all I has to do with.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't need Canada, we don't need to
Speaker 4: send corpos be made in America being back here, like
Speaker 4: make everything America and play American workers. It's all has
Speaker 4: to do with and he's the only.
Speaker 5: One with some going ads to do it. I keep
Speaker 5: following a lot of things that Ron Reagan did, well.
Speaker 2: I understand all of that. I understand the point you're making.
Speaker 2: But why why if that's what he wanted to accomplish,
Speaker 2: would he insult the country of Canada, insult its former
Speaker 2: prime minister, and probably, by his own comments, help elect
Speaker 2: a liberal leader of Canada who will be more difficult
Speaker 2: for him to deal with politically. It seems to be counterinte. Okay,
Speaker 2: use as I said to used to say to my kids,
Speaker 2: use your big words if you want to tell me,
Speaker 2: did you feel that the health insurance system they have
Speaker 2: up there is an abject failure?
Speaker 3: I can handle that comments, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, Dan,
Speaker 3: just get I listen these people like you know, and
Speaker 3: then what about after draft saying like you know, like
Speaker 3: so in New York. They closing a jail out there.
Speaker 4: I listen to a guy today, I'm froming mayor from
Speaker 4: governor today. You know, they closing jail from there.
Speaker 3: Today and they're going to release these people.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. You're like, we have these these criminals that
Speaker 5: the Democratic Party is the way everyone they can to
Speaker 5: release on certain things, and now we can't.
Speaker 4: You know, the poem all stuff without.
Speaker 5: Stuff.
Speaker 4: But he's trying to find ways outside of the box,
Speaker 4: to find ways to work things around. And the devil
Speaker 4: guy find he just wants to you know, up and
Speaker 4: and oh my.
Speaker 2: God, look they are. You know, that is the rule
Speaker 2: that they're going to play. And Donald Trump drives them
Speaker 2: up a wall for obvious reasons, and he plays into
Speaker 2: that game. As I say, we can we can agree
Speaker 2: to disagree. But I just think that he sometimes picks
Speaker 2: fights because he enjoys it. There's no political gain for
Speaker 2: him there. Your loyalty will be with Donald Trump forever.
Speaker 2: But I think that there were a lot of people
Speaker 2: in Canada who were insulted. Their country was insulted. Uh
Speaker 2: and they said, you know what we'll put We'll put
Speaker 2: a prime minister on who will be tougher for you
Speaker 2: to deal with. In my opinion, I be wrong. That's
Speaker 2: what I think.
Speaker 4: Enough, So you don't want to bring America John's back here, then, Dan,
Speaker 4: obviously that's what y'all want to do.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't say that at all. You're not listening
Speaker 2: to what I said. In order to to to get
Speaker 2: a government in place that would have worked more cooperatively
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. Who do you think would be more
Speaker 2: cooperative with Donald Trump? A conservative prime minister like Brian
Speaker 2: mulrooney or Mark Conney, the liberal prime minister who now
Speaker 2: is looking at a potential four year term in Canada.
Speaker 2: Who do you think would work better with President Trump?
Speaker 5: I don't know all that.
Speaker 4: I will imagine the other guy obviously, Dan, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So therefore, if you wanted to
Speaker 2: effectuate agreements which would bring more of the production of
Speaker 2: not only cars, but departs the cars back, it's better
Speaker 2: if he had someone up there on the other side
Speaker 2: of the border who thought like he did, but he
Speaker 2: went out of his way to make make sure that
Speaker 2: the guy who won was pinning Pierre Trudeau's hand picked successor.
Speaker 2: All right, that's all I'm saying. All right, thanks, Mike,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Just thanks like you soon let's keep rolling here,
Speaker 2: gonna go, Let's get a little Canadian perspective here real quickly.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Frank in Montreal. Frank, bonjour. How
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 6: Great?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thanks for joining us, Frank, love to
Speaker 2: get your perspective.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: In fact, then it was the Canadian you're your bat
Speaker 6: light that came across when you said you need the
Speaker 6: Canadians to call in, So you interrupted my hockey playoff watching.
Speaker 2: But who you're watching tonight? Who's what? What game are
Speaker 2: you watching tonight?
Speaker 6: Well, we have a few Canadian teams left in there,
Speaker 6: so we've got Edmonton versus Vegas tonight and so that's.
Speaker 2: Uh, Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Winnipeg should be your team. I think
Speaker 2: Winnipeg's gonna win it all.
Speaker 6: That was an exciting finish for that, oh man.
Speaker 2: I'm me tell you Montgomery. Montgomery almost pulled the upset
Speaker 2: of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: With the Montreal guy, by the way, I know that absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The coach here. We get rid of coaches and
Speaker 2: they tend to win the Stanley Cup. You know, Cassidy
Speaker 2: was here he ended up in Vegas, they won the Cup.
Speaker 2: I mean if I mean, if if Montgomery had pulled
Speaker 2: that upset, Uh.
Speaker 6: That would have been incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big, big, pretty good Golden would have helped.
Speaker 6: My hockey pool. Was that he would have helped my
Speaker 6: hockey pool.
Speaker 2: I'll bet I still think Winnipeg's your best bet. That's
Speaker 2: what I think. I think that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So here's my take is you are I
Speaker 6: agree with you Mark Donald Trump handed Mark Carney that
Speaker 6: victory because and in fact, if I can back up
Speaker 6: for a minute, you know, my my grievance here is
Speaker 6: that when Justin Trudeau resigned, in fact, there should have
Speaker 6: been an election. The Governor General should have stepped in
Speaker 6: and said, well, it's an instant election and should not
Speaker 6: have allowed him to prorogue Parliament and then stick Carney
Speaker 6: in there, so that bought time for Karney to come in.
Speaker 6: And in fact, that's so therein lies the problem where
Speaker 6: just In Truder or the Liberals would have been decimated
Speaker 6: and the Conservatives would have won. But then along comes
Speaker 6: mister Trump or President Trump and says, well, you know,
Speaker 6: you're our fifty first state honestly. So then what happened
Speaker 6: is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, which is our national public
Speaker 6: or one of let's say two public radios, and it's
Speaker 6: like other in law likes to say, the Communist Broadcast Corporation.
Speaker 6: And they were heavily find have always been heavily financed
Speaker 6: by the Liberals and the Trudeau so they're very left leaning,
Speaker 6: and they latched onto this and said, oh, how dare you?
Speaker 6: And then of course mister Carney, smart enough, says yeah,
Speaker 6: that's it, how dare you? And I think they got
Speaker 6: all the the ire of especially left leaning Canadians, which
Speaker 6: is about seventy percent, to say yeah, how dare you?
Speaker 6: So it was the timing was awful. I don't know
Speaker 6: why he did that, and.
Speaker 2: It was really unfortunate for me. I just think there's
Speaker 2: something in his nature that he likes to troll people,
Speaker 2: and I think that then obviously he got under Trudeau's
Speaker 2: skin and he's at heart. He's in New Yorker, Frank
Speaker 2: and right. I like to explain the difference between Boston
Speaker 2: and New York, and I would say Montreal in New York.
Speaker 2: If I bump into you on the streets of Boston. Inadvertently,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, excuse me, You're gonna say, I'm very sorry.
Speaker 2: You have a great day. You bump me somebody in
Speaker 2: the streets of New York and they'll look at you.
Speaker 2: What's your problem? You want to go?
Speaker 6: That's a very good analogy. Actually that's very good.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I think. It's the truth, right,
Speaker 2: But almost like one of those hockey games where where
Speaker 2: you know, kuld Chuck has decided he's going to fight
Speaker 2: somebody before the before the game starts, and you know why,
Speaker 2: wayte dropping the puck. Just let him go, but you
Speaker 2: got to go through the formality of dropping the puck.
Speaker 2: So then they throw the stick, drop the gloves, and
Speaker 2: then they have at it. You know, it's just it's
Speaker 2: it's it's Donald Trump. It's vintage Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: And he's so he is right. He he owes Canada nothing,
Speaker 6: and I think he has some uh you know. For example,
Speaker 6: he was talking about the dairy farmers and often in
Speaker 6: Canada's cartels, in the sense that they control the pricing
Speaker 6: of dairy. Maybe in the States you do as well.
Speaker 6: And it's a form of tax we pay eight dollars
Speaker 6: for a gallon of milk. I mean, is that insane?
Speaker 6: Or what eight dollars for a gallon of milk?
Speaker 2: I can get a gallon of milk at market basket
Speaker 2: for like eighty nine on me.
Speaker 6: No, and that that's controlled pricing, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 6: if you go to a little store or the major markets.
Speaker 6: It's eight dollars.
Speaker 2: Socialism is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Isn't it?
Speaker 6: However, and your last caller mentioned about our healthcare. So
Speaker 6: for major problems like a heart attack or cancer or
Speaker 6: any something, it's fantastic. You You are never turned away.
Speaker 6: The care is top notch. You need you need stitches,
Speaker 6: you have a broken arm, You're gonna wait forever. So
Speaker 6: that's that's where it falls down.
Speaker 2: So so let me ask you. Let's let's just I'm
Speaker 2: in Canada and I'm a US citizen and I, you know,
Speaker 2: have an accident or something. Uh Am I then treated
Speaker 2: as a visitor and depending upon the severity of the problem,
Speaker 2: I get treated like a Canadian in the in your
Speaker 2: public health system, or am I separate and do I
Speaker 2: go to the end of line. I'm just curious. I'm
Speaker 2: asking that question.
Speaker 6: Out of honest, Agen, I think you're triaged and you're
Speaker 6: just going to uh wait wait like the rest of us.
Speaker 2: No, I don't expect to get a priority, but I
Speaker 2: would hope that they wouldn't let me just lie in
Speaker 2: the gutter, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's not a Canadian way, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Frey, I love you calls. You know that, man,
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, thanks for taking them. And I'm happy to
Speaker 6: give a Canadian perspective. And yeah, it's a minority government,
Speaker 6: so we have to you know.
Speaker 2: How long is how if there is a government with crisis,
Speaker 2: I guess he's elected to a four year term. But
Speaker 2: if there is a vote of confidence, that four year
Speaker 2: term I assume in a parliamentary process could be abbreviated.
Speaker 6: Correct, correct, Okay, So and he you know, here's the irony,
Speaker 6: the the the the government that could actually bring him
Speaker 6: down is the separatist government of Quebec. So they're the Yeah,
Speaker 6: so that's it.
Speaker 2: Gets So they're small, but they hold they hold the
Speaker 2: balance of power.
Speaker 6: Well now they do. Oh they're actually they are hitting
Speaker 6: a way above their weight. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing, Montreal? You're you're a really
Speaker 2: smart guy. What what sort of work do you do?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: I uh so, I'm in sales. I have a company.
Speaker 6: We represent semiconductor manufacturers, so we get the rights to
Speaker 6: them in Canada and then we are the extension of
Speaker 6: their sales.
Speaker 2: Some night when we're talking tariffs. I love to have
Speaker 2: you join us.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's been proved to be a little bit complicated,
Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, they love that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'd like to get you to join us. Rob, Rob, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you have Rob, give you my direct line. So
Speaker 2: if you haven't need to reach me and give me
Speaker 2: a call, Rob, give a Frank in Montreal. He's a
Speaker 2: special caller. Haven't give given my direct number. We'll take
Speaker 2: a break. I've gone a little long here between Mike
Speaker 2: and Frank, but we'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the calls we go. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 2: Cheryl in Ontario real quickly here, Cheryl, want to get
Speaker 2: you in here before the break. Right ahead, We're Cheryl. Hi, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: I hope. So is this Cheryl in Ontario? No, it's Carol, Carol,
Speaker 2: it says Cheryl. There, guys, you got to get these
Speaker 2: names right, Carol. I should have known it's Carol because
Speaker 2: I know who you are, Carol, that you've called before.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling again.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no problem, It's been a while, but yep, I've
Speaker 9: called quite a few times before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So, I just wanted to mention a couple of things.
Speaker 9: When you said that Carnie, uh, okay, was actually the
Speaker 9: name of the opposition leader was Pierre Polyev?
Speaker 2: Polyv?
Speaker 9: Yeah, name right, Poliev. Yeah, anyway, and you said that
Speaker 9: Carnie came from a twenty five point deficit, and one
Speaker 9: that's kind of true. But the thing is is that
Speaker 9: twenty five percent lead that the Conservatives had actually really
Speaker 9: has to do with the polls that were around when
Speaker 9: Trudeau was still Prime minister.
Speaker 2: No, I understand, I know, but what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: it wasn't as if Karnie had to I'm just saying
Speaker 2: that Donald Trell Trump probably is the reason Karnie is
Speaker 2: your prime minister.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I agree. And actually one of
Speaker 9: the things I'll mention to You don't know if you
Speaker 9: know much about this, but Carney is quite the climate activist.
Speaker 9: He's he's like, yes, he's he's like, he's pretty much
Speaker 9: a globalist, as you would know. He's a world banker,
Speaker 9: right or he was, and he is interested in a
Speaker 9: global initiative to bring most countries down to net zero
Speaker 9: by twenty fifty, net zero emissions by twenty fifty.
Speaker 2: Other than China, Pakistan, other than China Pakistani.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, right, exactly, probably the Western the Western exactly.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, okay, so so yeah, so the problem is
Speaker 9: with him. I personally think that Trump thinks Carney's weak,
Speaker 9: and I think that's one of the reasons that he
Speaker 9: pushed for Carney to become PM.
Speaker 2: So so you think this was done intentionally by Trump
Speaker 2: to have a Prime Minister who he was going to
Speaker 2: not be able to work with.
Speaker 9: No, No, I think I think he thinks that Carney
Speaker 9: is weak, so he'll be able to not necessarily bully him,
Speaker 9: but but push him around. That's I do think that
Speaker 9: because Carnee like and the reason is that I'm saying
Speaker 9: this is because of his his climate activism. Okay, Miss
Speaker 9: Carney would not when when he was asked about building
Speaker 9: Canada like during the election. Uh, one of the biggest
Speaker 9: things that brings prosperity to Canada is oil and gas,
Speaker 9: and Carney wouldn't even say the words oil and gas.
Speaker 9: You couldn't say them.
Speaker 2: But all of all I'm trying to say, and again
Speaker 2: I'm the outsider. You're the insider. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: acquiesce to what would you believe? It seems to me
Speaker 2: that any American president would love to have a partner
Speaker 2: in Canada and a partner in Mexico with whom they
Speaker 2: could work. And I would assume I don't know much
Speaker 2: about Polyev other than the fact that he was he
Speaker 2: was the standard bearer for the Conservatives, and he would
Speaker 2: have been the prime minister if the Conservatives. I guess
Speaker 2: you called the district's ridings. If I'm not mistaken, ridings
Speaker 2: are the h Yes, I have no idea what that means,
Speaker 2: by the way, but that's I just wanted to commit.
Speaker 9: It's just an electoral area, that's all.
Speaker 2: A congressional district. You would call it a parliament members
Speaker 2: riding anyway. Maybe in the old days the members had
Speaker 2: to ride on horseback to get around and talk to
Speaker 2: the voters.
Speaker 9: I don't thing to do with that. You know that
Speaker 9: it has something to do with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that that that he has basically
Speaker 2: contributed to the election of Mark Connie. Did you happen
Speaker 2: to watch them in the Oval office today that they seem.
Speaker 9: To I watched, I watched. I actually it was it was,
Speaker 9: but I just found I see. I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 9: mean I actually found Carnie quite. I find him dull.
Speaker 9: I find him dull, I find him born. I don't
Speaker 9: find him inspiring. I find him and I just think
Speaker 9: he's a He's going to be a pushover. And I
Speaker 9: honestly think that's why Donald Trump preferves him, because I
Speaker 9: think pauliev would have been would have fought more for Canada,
Speaker 9: and I think Carne is I think he's a fake.
Speaker 9: And see what the reason I'm I'll tell you the
Speaker 9: reason why I mentioned oil and gas is because that's
Speaker 9: what brings prosperity of this country. And we haven't had
Speaker 9: many pipelines or initiatives in oil and gas for the
Speaker 9: past ten years under Trudeau.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I totally get that. And I don't know
Speaker 2: that you're going to have pipelines and initiatives under Connie,
Speaker 2: but we will see. I want you, Carol to continue
Speaker 2: to listen to Night Side and like Frank in Montreal.
Speaker 2: Check in and and let me know how you think
Speaker 2: this guy is doing. And there will be moments in
Speaker 2: time it'll be interesting to see if Karnie and Trump
Speaker 2: can work out something on tariffs which will quiet down
Speaker 2: the problems that exist at this point.
Speaker 9: I don't know, I mean, we'll I really thought about
Speaker 9: oil and gas. The reason I'm mentioning it is because
Speaker 9: I think Trump wants to do like do more pipelines
Speaker 9: in the US. I think he wants to become more
Speaker 9: of a superpower, and by by having a climate activist
Speaker 9: in Canada, he'll be able to push Carnie around because
Speaker 9: we supply a lot of oil and gas to the US.
Speaker 9: Right But I personally think that he will. He wants
Speaker 9: Carney to so so let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Honey, do you do you think that the pipelines that
Speaker 2: we open up from Alaska, which in order to get
Speaker 2: to the US are going to have to go underground
Speaker 2: in Canada or gas lines? Do you think that that
Speaker 2: Knnie's going to roll over on that issue?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, well, I don't.
Speaker 9: I'm just yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 9: Anyway, let's keep our eye on it. I think he's
Speaker 9: a pushover, and I think.
Speaker 2: Get more's pretty may If you're right, if you're right,
Speaker 2: you're it's pretty machiavellian. Thank you, Thank you so much, Carol.
Speaker 2: We'll talk again. Thanks so much. Keep in touch. We'll
Speaker 2: take a break. The only line that is available right now,
Speaker 2: six one seven, the one Carol just vacated, six one seven,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. I got Mark, Jim and Paul coming up,
Speaker 2: and I got room for you. We're talking about the
Speaker 2: meeting in the White House today the Prime Minister of
Speaker 2: Canada President of the United States. We didn't see behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, but up front they seem to be able
Speaker 2: to tolerate one another, which I think is a good sign,
Speaker 2: even though they come from opposite directions, different directions philosophically.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside right after this.
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Speaker 2: Let's get right to the calls, going to Mark and
Speaker 2: Uber and Mark appreciate your patience.
Speaker 10: Next on Nightside, Mark, Hi Dan, how are you tonight?
Speaker 2: Do just Gray? What's your take on the meeting today
Speaker 2: between President Trump and Prime Minister knie Uh.
Speaker 10: First, before I answer that, I'd like to say that,
Speaker 10: aside from being a center fielder for the Red Sox.
Speaker 10: For you or for me being a rock star, You've
Speaker 10: got the best job on the planet.
Speaker 3: So thank you.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 10: We've talked before. We've talked before. I've told you I
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Speaker 2: I'm all ears, I'm all ears.
Speaker 10: Have me have me on as the progressive voice counterpoint,
Speaker 10: so now you can get all the progressives listening to me.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of progressive listening, is lessie. I
Speaker 2: got a progressive coming up a little bit later on
Speaker 2: here my friend Ken and Walt, they have What do
Speaker 2: you do for a living? I'm just curious, are you
Speaker 2: involved in the media.
Speaker 10: I'm the rare coin I'm the rare coin dealer. We've
Speaker 10: spoken on and off over the years. I sell rare
Speaker 10: coins and sports cards collectibles online. But I'm also yeah,
Speaker 10: I had a website collectibles. I was originally a web developer,
Speaker 10: and during the pandemic, my two biggest clients, one was
Speaker 10: a coin dealer, the other one was a collectible dealer.
Speaker 10: You might have heard of Ken more collectibles. They had
Speaker 10: coins and cards. I did their web work, and eventually
Speaker 10: I got into the biz because ken More Collectibles closed
Speaker 10: and I got some of his inventory in exchange for
Speaker 10: accounts receivable and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's good to know.
Speaker 2: So your baseball cards go back how far?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 10: I just I specialize in the third party cards from
Speaker 10: the wax junk wax era, like they were not a
Speaker 10: Golosso cards, the fantasy card sets or the you know,
Speaker 10: she would do reprints of the tobacco cards, or she
Speaker 10: would do series of the Greatest Hitters of all time,
Speaker 10: greatest pitchers and there. So her card company was TCMA,
Speaker 10: and then there's SSPC. These guys were able to start
Speaker 10: doing this. They kind of led up to the lawsuit
Speaker 10: against Tops that allowed Flear and Don Russ and all
Speaker 10: these other card companies to flood the market milate eighties
Speaker 10: and nineties through the early two thousands. So I'm kind
Speaker 10: of dealing with their predecessor. And SSPC also did a
Speaker 10: lot of the minor league cards, and they were eventually
Speaker 10: absorbed by Skybox and are now part of I think
Speaker 10: what's the one not Stadium Club Upper Deck. I think
Speaker 10: they are event they were eventually through a series of acquisitions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, in the old days, I mean, in
Speaker 2: the old days when I was a kid, it was
Speaker 2: a bowman occasionally and mostly.
Speaker 10: Tops Tops and yeah, Top Spot bowman, who was their
Speaker 10: early competitor. And actually Bowman is older than Tops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm aware of that. And I got to
Speaker 2: tell you, I wrote a piece for Newsweek magazine, my
Speaker 2: turn column, back in eighty nine about the value of
Speaker 2: baseball cards. And it was not the It was not
Speaker 2: the financial value. Back in those days, people no cards.
Speaker 2: It was the intrinsic value that I had. I learned
Speaker 2: to read, to do mathematics.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, exactly. And let's not forget the artwork in
Speaker 10: and of themselves. Those some of the greatest baseball cards
Speaker 10: of all time were are little mini masterpieces and the
Speaker 10: artwork on the back, with the stats.
Speaker 2: And with the What is your favorite first of all
Speaker 2: era of baseball cards? Mine obviously of the fifties.
Speaker 10: Same, same, I mean, just like just like television in
Speaker 10: the fifties.
Speaker 2: I can remember as a kid when baseball cards, you know,
Speaker 2: arrived sometime in late March. I mean, they were an
Speaker 2: in precious commodity.
Speaker 10: They really were, and they weren't. I'm sorry, go ahead, no.
Speaker 2: No, it's just they were precious commodity. I mean you cards,
Speaker 2: you smelled the bubble.
Speaker 10: Gum and you know it.
Speaker 6: You know it.
Speaker 10: It was an experience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it really was. Mark. We got to talk
Speaker 2: sometime off the air. I've just copied down your number.
Speaker 2: I want Rob to give you my number when we
Speaker 2: finish up here. But let's talk. We can agree on
Speaker 2: baseball cards but disagree on politics. Go ahead, we should
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 10: I think I think you might get it. You might
Speaker 10: get a kick out of this. And I know it
Speaker 10: sounds kind of conspiracy theorist, but you know how the
Speaker 10: idea that with ban and and and Project twenty twenty,
Speaker 10: if I was to throw a bunch of stuff at
Speaker 10: the press to add confusion and as a smoke screen.
Speaker 10: And there's one particular example that I think will be
Speaker 10: easy to discuss if you want to go there. On
Speaker 10: March fourteenth, Pam Bondi stated, according to USA Today that
Speaker 10: Donald Trump put out a memorandum that ice can enter
Speaker 10: your house, Dan Ray, my apartment, Mark Freedman, whomever. They
Speaker 10: can enter without a warrant if they feel that you
Speaker 10: are harboring Venezuelan gang members, and so the question then
Speaker 10: becomes is this true? Is this a true suspension of
Speaker 10: the Fourth Amendment that Trump is pushing for, and is
Speaker 10: this whole I do agree with you. He likes toa
Speaker 10: troll and they're using that, and I think Malania thought,
Speaker 10: you know, Justin was cute, and he's kind of upset
Speaker 10: at that. But overall though, I mean, having us talk
Speaker 10: about these kind of things and the Gulf of America
Speaker 10: and whatnot is kind of letting some of this stuff
Speaker 10: slip under the radar. Yeah, at least that's one way
Speaker 10: I look at I will tell you this.
Speaker 2: I will be the first one that's going to jump
Speaker 2: out at him, however, and we're going to disagree on this,
Speaker 2: but I will tell you we have a tremendous problem
Speaker 2: in this country with twenty million illegals here and we
Speaker 2: do not know who they are.
Speaker 7: Look, I agree with you.
Speaker 10: I am an independent, I'm not a Democrat, and I'm
Speaker 10: very upset at the Democrat Party. I'm at Bernie Broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. I understand, and by the way, he
Speaker 2: said some nice things about Bernie. But the point is, yeah,
Speaker 2: he has the the Biden administration just opened the borders,
Speaker 2: and despite all of the clear videotape, you saw people
Speaker 2: just coming to the border and crossing the border. Somehow
Speaker 2: it's going to be addressed.
Speaker 10: And look, I'm going to agree with you that the
Speaker 10: Biden administration looked terrible with the border. It was a
Speaker 10: major issue. And the Democrat Party has terrible, terrible messaging that.
Speaker 10: You know, they're spineless, They're like a high school click
Speaker 10: and it's one of the reasons why I will only
Speaker 10: vote with them in opposition to Trump. But if it's
Speaker 10: any other candidate and I feel our constitution is safe,
Speaker 10: I will vote third party until they get their collective
Speaker 10: poo poo together, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, it's it.
Speaker 2: But all I'm all I'm trying to say in complete
Speaker 2: sincerity is that I didn't like what I saw when
Speaker 2: this tough student was picked up the woman, the third
Speaker 2: year old woman. Yeah, because the optics are horrible, number one,
Speaker 2: and the opportunity terrible. If you are going to pick
Speaker 2: someone up off the street, you got to tell me why,
Speaker 2: and you got to tell the American people why, because
Speaker 2: you're just going to waste political capital. Now I don't
Speaker 2: know how our case is going to work out. I
Speaker 2: feel very differently about the tough student that I do
Speaker 2: about the kid from Columbia who pre invented people from
Speaker 2: access to classrooms. Uh and and actually did some things
Speaker 2: that physically impeded Jewish students at Columbia. So we can
Speaker 2: have a long conversation about that. We can't open that
Speaker 2: one up tonight. That I am.
Speaker 10: I am also of the of the heritage. I'm an atheist,
Speaker 10: but I grew up as a Jew. My father's a
Speaker 10: Holocaust survivor, and we could have a huge discussion about
Speaker 10: that stuff at another time.
Speaker 2: Let's do that.
Speaker 10: My my my only comment if we're going to just
Speaker 10: touch on that, and I'll let you go. It sounds
Speaker 10: like you've got other people and I know times running
Speaker 10: out is that we still have to follow the laws
Speaker 10: of the country and that doesn't you know, do process
Speaker 10: and you know, a consumption of innocence. As Rousseau said,
Speaker 10: better let ten guilty men go freedom and to punish
Speaker 10: an innocent man. And so with his treatment to you know,
Speaker 10: to Canada, I think it's more of a smoke screen
Speaker 10: rather than anything.
Speaker 2: I hear you. But what I'm saying is if they
Speaker 2: I read the article the woman wrote in the Toughs
Speaker 2: newspaper or co wrote, and there was nothing in that
Speaker 2: round of the ordinary. If that's all they got on her,
Speaker 2: they had no right to scooper. Okay. Uh. And at
Speaker 2: the same time, I have no empathy with what she wrote. Okay,
Speaker 2: I am prosery.
Speaker 10: And that's the great thing about the First Amendment.
Speaker 7: You can.
Speaker 2: Say we agree with. But I hope you'll agree with
Speaker 2: me that this kid at Columbia who's hearing a visa
Speaker 2: and is gonna gonna preclude other students from attending classes,
Speaker 2: that Columbia, Columbia was a snake pit.
Speaker 10: That's that's a that's a criminal, a local criminal issue
Speaker 10: rather than a federal you could pull.
Speaker 2: You could pull someone's visa. You could pull someone's visa
Speaker 2: who's here as a student if the criminals and he
Speaker 2: was in my opinion from what I understood total.
Speaker 10: There's no conviction and the question and I was also
Speaker 10: a paralegal. I know I did everything for it until
Speaker 10: I don't think you have to.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to wait for a conviction
Speaker 2: with someone who is here either illegally or someone who
Speaker 2: now loses their visa because of what they're accused of
Speaker 2: we we can. That's an immigrant it's an immigration court question.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go down that hole with you
Speaker 2: right now, but we will have this conversation later. I
Speaker 2: got to run. I'm way past my break. I love
Speaker 2: the call. Well, I had I have your number. You
Speaker 2: get hit my number from Rob. Okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: give my private numbnut over the air.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, No, absolutely, absolutely, wonderful.
Speaker 2: Lead you too, Mark, talk to you soon. Okay, don't
Speaker 2: hang up. We'll be back on Nightside. I'll get everyone
Speaker 2: else in. I promise back right after this.
Speaker 1: It's night Side's news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay. We got to move quickly here, folks, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I know people have been holding on. I apologize
Speaker 2: Paul and Pennsylvania. Paul, you got to be quick for me.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, all right, Dare I just want to briefly
Speaker 7: say when you mentioned about Winnipeg winning the Stanley Cup,
Speaker 7: I got to laugh about that because I remember when
Speaker 7: they came up from the World Hockey League and I
Speaker 7: saw him back in the nineties, and then they end
Speaker 7: them going to Phoenix, and then I'm so happy that
Speaker 7: they got their name back of their hat back but
Speaker 7: I like to see them winning all too. But I
Speaker 7: just want to say, like you said about Trump, I
Speaker 7: think you're right, he's just going going in Canada, you know.
Speaker 7: He he's just he's he's like. But I don't I
Speaker 7: disn't agree with that one called or. I think that
Speaker 7: that Carney, I don't think. I don't think he was
Speaker 7: blowing smoke. I think he's I think he's a tough guy.
Speaker 7: You know, right, nobody's just tough to Trump. But he's
Speaker 7: a tough guy. And I don't think he's afraid of Trump.
Speaker 2: I thought Connie handled himself well today. Obviously, Uh, he's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's an away game for him, sitting in
Speaker 2: the Oval office. He's got his meaning, he's got his
Speaker 2: people there. But I thought he handled himself pretty well.
Speaker 2: I thought they both did today.
Speaker 7: Actually, let you go. But I just want to say,
Speaker 7: hope Boston wins the war. How they get beat by?
Speaker 7: Why where they get beat by jail and brunts and
Speaker 7: a one man team?
Speaker 2: He go, Then, Hey, appreciate you call Paul. We'll give
Speaker 2: you much more time next time. Thank you, my friend,
Speaker 2: thank you, good night. Jim got to be quick for me,
Speaker 2: Jim I'm I'm ted on time. Go ahead, Jim, Jim's
Speaker 2: not ready. We'll move on. I guess Jim's not ready, Okay,
Speaker 2: put him on hold. Whatever, Let me go to Kennon
Speaker 2: wal dam Ken, You're next one night, saga right ahead.
Speaker 11: Dan, How you doing? You know, I fought back to
Speaker 11: twenty sixteen when Obama went somewhere and he wasn't met
Speaker 11: with much of a party when he landed. And Trump
Speaker 11: responded and during the election and said, boy, if that
Speaker 11: ever happened to me, I'd take Air Force one and
Speaker 11: just turn around and take off. You know, I wouldn't
Speaker 11: accept the snub. And Trump is kind of up up
Speaker 11: to his snub to a total insult of the Canadian
Speaker 11: and it's it's kind of interesting to you know, I
Speaker 11: think the Canadians are responding the way Trump would, you know.
Speaker 2: And well, but at the same time, if I, if
Speaker 2: I could, Carnie was man enough today to show up
Speaker 2: at the White House, I mean, you know, he probably
Speaker 2: could have said, after what you know, Trump had said
Speaker 2: about him in the campaign, if he wanted to, uh,
Speaker 2: he might have said, uh, you know, we appreciate the invitation,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna put that we're busy right now. But
Speaker 2: he didn't, and it was smart for him to show
Speaker 2: up at the White House. The US is still and
Speaker 2: my hat's off to Connie. I'm just saying that. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not a I don't even know Carnie. Okay, he's
Speaker 2: a harv he's a Harvard guy whatever.
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a Trudeau successor. Uh, you know he's not.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been my cup of tea. You know that.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a right of center guy. But you
Speaker 2: got to give the guy hats on credit. He sat there. Obviously,
Speaker 2: President Trump dominated that little chit chat today, but I
Speaker 2: think he handled I think that Connie more than held
Speaker 2: his own and he said, you know, look, well, you
Speaker 2: don't you know how it went down. I thought he
Speaker 2: did well, and I thought President Trump did pretty well today.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like Trump was Sydney calling him governor Connie.
Speaker 2: He didn't do any of that stupid.
Speaker 11: So the point I'm getting, you know, just listening to
Speaker 11: some of the Trump supporters today, if I certainly heard
Speaker 11: one like this and maybe a few saying, you know, Canadians,
Speaker 11: you don't understand Trump loves you. You know, he's on
Speaker 11: your side, and they're kind of asking the Canadians to
Speaker 11: change their view. And I think the point you keep
Speaker 11: making over and over is maybe Donald Trump needs to
Speaker 11: change how he's acting towards Canada. And maybe today he
Speaker 11: actually started doing that. That was kind of the point
Speaker 11: I was getting to.
Speaker 2: Maybe. And the other thing is, sometimes what do they say,
Speaker 2: politics make strange bedfellows. Maybe maybe there was a personal
Speaker 2: thing with Trudeau that Trump didn't like his style or whatever. Uh,
Speaker 2: And that maybe somehow Carnie and Trump can can forge a,
Speaker 2: if not a friendship, at least some level of mutual
Speaker 2: respect here.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't know how this is gonna
Speaker 2: play out. It's going to be fascinating to watch why
Speaker 2: while we're why we are loggerheads with Canada. Uh is
Speaker 2: beyond me, I know as and I think it was
Speaker 2: Mark and Beverly who was trying to uh, Mike rather
Speaker 2: than Beverly's trying to make the argument that Trump wants
Speaker 2: to bring home American manufacturing. I get that. I get
Speaker 2: that he's he's not worried about you and me living
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts with whatever you and I do, Neither one
Speaker 2: of us are automobile menia fat actions in our thirties
Speaker 2: and or forties and seeing our factories closing, our jobs
Speaker 2: go away. He's responding to that, which he should do.
Speaker 2: Any president should do that.
Speaker 6: I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 11: I just want to see Trump behave appropriately for the
Speaker 11: benefit of all of us. You know, it can be
Speaker 11: a win win that. You know, it seems like Trump
Speaker 11: acts like for us to win, somebody has to lose.
Speaker 11: Doesn't always have to be like that, and I hope
Speaker 11: Trump made some progress with that with Mark Carney today.
Speaker 2: So yeah, sometimes out of those difficult you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: out of those difficult situations, you develop respect and you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, the guy at least had the backbone
Speaker 2: to show up here. I mean, if I'm Carney, I
Speaker 2: have no idea what I'm walking into. I could be
Speaker 2: walking into a trap where you know, he's going to
Speaker 2: try to he saw what happened with Zelensky. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he didn't want to see something like that happen.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: I say, you know, I thought they both won today,
Speaker 2: And that's that's my point right there.
Speaker 1: You go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, always agreement with you, all right, Ken, Always great
Speaker 2: to you. Your voice, You know that. Thanks my friend,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. All Right, we're gotta wrap it
Speaker 2: up here, Matt, you got the final word. We got
Speaker 2: about a minute.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, and Matt, hey, Dan gonna make it real quick. Look,
Speaker 8: I absolutely agree. You know the whole Trump debate, et cetera. Uh,
Speaker 8: there's a stark difference with the tough students and this
Speaker 8: person from Columbia.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 8: Due process has been done to that Columbia student. It's
Speaker 8: been done poorly. This person actively wanted people like myself
Speaker 8: if I was at Columbia to be attacked violently and
Speaker 8: handing out leaplets. No one like that belongs in America,
Speaker 8: and do justice will be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like if you invite someone to your house
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they start to smash the
Speaker 2: furniture up. They can't say to you, well, well you
Speaker 2: go to you've invited me here. You have to treat
Speaker 2: me like a guest. Let me smash something else. No,
Speaker 2: And if you're here on a visa, or you're here
Speaker 2: illegally and you act out, don't don't give me.
Speaker 1: I just don't get it.
Speaker 8: How people can say I get it first, and then
Speaker 8: they can say that you could say that this guy
Speaker 8: should be able to stay. I can't wait until the
Speaker 8: course pass it and he gets out and saves our
Speaker 8: country for a better place.
Speaker 2: I'm with your net. I'm with your net. Hey, Matt.
Speaker 2: There's more room of agreement here if we stay rational. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: not you and me, everybody.
Speaker 8: The Bazuka company before for Bowmen, they started making gum
Speaker 8: before tops Toks actually incorporated the cards.
Speaker 2: I got it. Well, well, I know you're an expert
Speaker 2: on that, but I'm running out of time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, thanks, I appreciate you waiting to get it.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Matt. Okay, I want to thank Marie as always
Speaker 2: wanted to thank Rob Brooks and Brian. Great job tonight,
Speaker 2: Brian takes the helm. Tomorrow night. We'll have Brian tomorrow
Speaker 2: night and Thursday night. Hope you'll be here as well.
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