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Speaker 1: On a very busy Tuesday, edition of the show.
Speaker 2: Week three of football camp for the University of Utah,
Speaker 2: rolling along up on the Hill of course BYU down South.
Speaker 2: Week three for Klannie and his staff Braco Menahal looking
Speaker 2: to break in eighty new players up in Logan for.
Speaker 1: The Utah State Aggie.
Speaker 2: So we've got some college football to get you on
Speaker 2: the program today. Alabama has named their starting quarterback and
Speaker 2: when you look at the AP poll that was released
Speaker 2: on Monday, seven of the top ten teams will be
Speaker 2: breaking in new quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 2: It's the most first place votes in the AP top
Speaker 2: top twenty five spread out amongst the most teams since
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, six teams.
Speaker 1: Receiving first place votes.
Speaker 2: And you could make a case for Notre Dame, you
Speaker 2: could make a case for Alabama.
Speaker 1: Texas is your number one team.
Speaker 2: And we'll kind of dig into some of the college
Speaker 2: football storylines as we are high speed ahead to week zero,
Speaker 2: high speed ahead to actually college football games, to analyze
Speaker 2: and break down and of course give you the latest
Speaker 2: on both the Utes and the Cougars, and with an
Speaker 2: eye on Utah State as well. As we are inching
Speaker 2: closer and closer to opening day in college football. Preseason
Speaker 2: Week two in the NFL, we'll get rolling coming up
Speaker 2: on Friday with the Titans and the Falcons. We've got
Speaker 2: Chief Seahawks, and throughout the weekend Saturday will be the
Speaker 2: Jets and the Giants. The Jets and the Giants currently
Speaker 2: are having joint practices at Mett Life and East Rutherford
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart opening some eyes week one of the preseason
Speaker 2: for Giants fans. The Packers play the Colts coming up
Speaker 2: on Saturday, but you will not see Jordan Love. It
Speaker 2: was announced he's going to undergo a procedure on his
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Speaker 2: expect him to be back for Week one as far
Speaker 2: as the Packers go.
Speaker 1: So preseason NFL football.
Speaker 2: Week two rolling along this weekend, and it'll end with
Speaker 2: some Monday Night football, which is the Bengals and the
Speaker 2: Commanders at Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland. So a lot
Speaker 2: of football on the show. Good guests today for you guys.
Speaker 2: Rare Al Salt Lake. Coming off a rough loss over
Speaker 2: the weekend in New York. They're back in action this
Speaker 2: weekend on the road in Charlotte, we'll see if they
Speaker 2: can bounce back. Diego Luna will miss that game as
Speaker 2: a result of just a horrible, horrible call to give
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Speaker 2: little RSL on the program as well. Not a lot
Speaker 2: of NBA news right now currently, it's kind of the
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Speaker 1: We have some schedule releases.
Speaker 2: We know what Opening Night is going to look like,
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Speaker 2: We don't really know what the Utah Jazz will look
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Speaker 2: For the off season in pro basketball, so a lot
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Speaker 2: Our first guest on a Tuesday afternoon will be none
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Speaker 2: All right, we are eighteen days away from kickoff for
Speaker 2: the University of Utah as they'll be at the Rose
Speaker 2: Bull taking.
Speaker 1: On UCLA Brigham Young.
Speaker 2: Their opening game will be Portland State at Level Edwards
Speaker 2: Stadium and Utah State welcomes in Utah. So week three
Speaker 2: of camp Kyle up on the hill for the University
Speaker 2: of Utah, and I'll continue to say that no news
Speaker 2: is good news. This appears to be a very drama
Speaker 2: free Utah training camp without some of the anxiety and
Speaker 2: consternation over the past couple of years just because of
Speaker 2: the unknown nature of the health of a.
Speaker 1: Lot of the roster, quite frankly quarterback.
Speaker 2: But all appears to be quiet all along the Western front,
Speaker 2: as they say, And if you're a Utah fan, that
Speaker 2: is a good, good piece of news for you. BYU
Speaker 2: looks like they're close to naming a starting quarterback and
Speaker 2: could it be the true freshman Bear Bachmeyer who played
Speaker 2: his spring ball at Stamford before transferring to BYU to
Speaker 2: play for Colonie Satake and Aaron Roderick. As the story goes,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodrick badly wanted Bear Bachmeyer out of high school, tried.
Speaker 1: To recruit him to Provo.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out initially, but bar Bachmeyer lands in Provo
Speaker 2: and as a result of the situation with Jake Retzlav
Speaker 2: who's now too lane, looks like Bear could be in
Speaker 2: line to be QB one. So Aaron Rodger co address
Speaker 2: in the media today after practice and said that the
Speaker 2: bulk of the ones, the snaps with the ones went
Speaker 2: to Bear and then McKay Hillstead was able to receive
Speaker 2: a few reps with the one that looks like the
Speaker 2: tracing board.
Speaker 1: Gay kid might be the odd man out.
Speaker 2: Here, but it's interesting to consider the way people have
Speaker 2: kind of framed the conversation surrounding Utah. With Devin dan
Speaker 2: Pier under center, it appears to be more or less
Speaker 2: a consensus. I was listening to Bruce Feldman Stewart Mandel
Speaker 2: earlier today on their Good College Football podcast two good
Speaker 2: friends of the show, and I truly have not heard
Speaker 2: very many people offer a lot of skepticism about what
Speaker 2: Devin's going to be able to do under center for
Speaker 2: Utah this year. I am just naturally a skeptic. If
Speaker 2: you listen to the show, you kind of know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's my upbringing in a Northeast
Speaker 2: footprint where everybody.
Speaker 1: Seems to be skeptical. I just have a.
Speaker 2: Hard time anointing anybody when I haven't seen them do
Speaker 2: what they're about to do before, which makes the BYU
Speaker 2: quarterback situation interesting as well by all accounts. And Aaron
Speaker 2: Roderick a number of weeks ago after the Jake Retz
Speaker 2: laugh news kind of became official. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say showed his hand, but he did a little bit
Speaker 2: with some of the platitudes and praises he was offering
Speaker 2: for this young quarterback bear Backmeyer. As far as his intelligence,
Speaker 2: he certainly has the build. He's built a little bit
Speaker 2: differently than McKay or Tracing. He's bigger, stronger, and I
Speaker 2: suppose if all things, if all things are equal, you
Speaker 2: might as well go with the kid and see if
Speaker 2: you can establish something for the next you know, two, three,
Speaker 2: four years, because that is no longer the norm in
Speaker 2: college football. So both Utah and BYU will be breaking
Speaker 2: in new quarterbacks this year. Obviously, Devin has had the
Speaker 2: job since the day he transferred, and I would imagine
Speaker 2: that was a promise that was made to bring he
Speaker 2: and his offensive coordinator to co coordinator Jason.
Speaker 1: Beck to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there was some sort of semblance of a
Speaker 2: promise like, no, this is going to be your job.
Speaker 1: If you come play for us, you have the job.
Speaker 2: So the difference between the two dynamics at this point
Speaker 2: is that Utah decided long ago that Devon was going
Speaker 2: to be the guy, where BYU appears to be finally
Speaker 2: deciding now, just two and a half weeks away from kickoff.
Speaker 1: Because this is the time we talked to Stevenson.
Speaker 2: Sylvester about this yesterday, game specific planning starts now now
Speaker 2: it's not as urgent for BYU. I mean, look, I
Speaker 2: do think Utah about a touchdown and favorite against UCLA,
Speaker 2: should go to the Rose Bowl and come away with
Speaker 2: a win. That really shouldn't even feel uncomfortable at least
Speaker 2: that's the hope, But it is opening day, you never
Speaker 2: know what it's going to look like.
Speaker 1: So the game planning prep for.
Speaker 2: Utah for UCLA at the Rose Bowl, I would just
Speaker 2: would imagine is a little bit more involved than what
Speaker 2: BYU has to dig in as far as tape on
Speaker 2: Portland State.
Speaker 1: And if you're a BYU fan, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like that soft landing spot is exactly what you want
Speaker 2: and exactly what you need if you're going to be
Speaker 2: breaking in a true freshman quarterback a year after you
Speaker 2: went seven and two in conference one, eleven games overall
Speaker 2: and was one of not just the biggest surprises in
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, one of the biggest surprises in all
Speaker 2: of college football as a result of a lot of
Speaker 2: good fortune, as a result of very stout defense, some
Speaker 2: opportunistic play from Jake Ratz left under center, a stout
Speaker 2: running game.
Speaker 1: They have LJ. Martin back Chase rob which is back
Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to launch in a conference play
Speaker 2: if you're breaking in a true freshman when you don't
Speaker 2: really know what sort.
Speaker 1: Of hands you've been dealt. And I do think.
Speaker 2: Ucla at the Rose Bowl is a good, solid opening
Speaker 2: test for Utah football and a good, solid opening test
Speaker 2: for Devin Danpier on the road in one of college
Speaker 2: football's most hallowed grounds. Utah State will welcome in UTEP
Speaker 2: That's going to be their first game in Logan, coming
Speaker 2: up on the thirtieth. So all three of the teams
Speaker 2: are about eighteen days away from kick as we sit
Speaker 2: here today, Bronco Menahal is breaking in literally eighty new players,
Speaker 2: and Utah State's second game is at Texas A and
Speaker 2: M down College Station. It's a ten forty five am
Speaker 2: kick that's going to be on the SEC network, So
Speaker 2: Bronco will learn a lot about exactly what he has
Speaker 2: in his cupboard, even though it is basically an entirely
Speaker 2: new roster. Now, if you're an Aggie fan, the good
Speaker 2: news is you know who your quarterback is. It's the
Speaker 2: final ride for Bryson Barnes, player that we know down
Speaker 2: here in Salt Lake very well, the pig farmer who
Speaker 2: stepped in on a number of different occasions as a
Speaker 2: result of the inability of Cameron Rising to stay healthy,
Speaker 2: whether it was Rose Bowl appearances or solid performances in.
Speaker 1: The Pac twelve. So Utah State, out of the.
Speaker 2: Three in state schools, essentially the only school that knows
Speaker 2: exactly what they have under center. But the interesting thing
Speaker 2: about this year's college football landscape and this is now
Speaker 2: the new reality because look, here's the deal. Even without
Speaker 2: the transfer portal, even without the roster turnover like five, six.
Speaker 1: Seven years ago.
Speaker 2: You talk to anybody who covers this sport, it is,
Speaker 2: by far, this is my opinion, the hardest, hardest sport
Speaker 2: to predict. The landscape of conferences, the landscape of the
Speaker 2: national rankings, what's that going to look like? Who can
Speaker 2: really win a national championship? Who are really the elite
Speaker 2: teams in college football? And seven of the top ten
Speaker 2: teams in the AP are breaking in new quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 2: Drew Aller, Penn State, the Caid club nick kid from Clemson,
Speaker 2: who a lot of people think will be the number
Speaker 2: one overall pick. Like, I'm inclined to give those two
Speaker 2: schools more the benefit of the doubt. And I think
Speaker 2: it's a consensus that Arch Manning is going to be awesome.
Speaker 2: But that's another quarterback who's about to step in and
Speaker 2: do something he hasn't done before. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why you hear a lot of love from Penn State.
Speaker 2: I think That's why you hear a lot of love
Speaker 2: for Clemson because they actually have quarterbacks coming back to
Speaker 2: play under center that we have seen before and we've
Speaker 2: seen play at a very high level.
Speaker 1: Drew Aller answered a lot of questions last year, and
Speaker 1: that in.
Speaker 2: No small part is why Penn State is favored to
Speaker 2: win the Big Ten over Ohio State. Ohio State breaking
Speaker 2: in a new quarterback, the Gunner Stockton kid from Georgia
Speaker 2: had moments when he stepped in, you know, as it
Speaker 2: pertains the way he can play the position, but this
Speaker 2: will be his first time playing this at you as
Speaker 2: a starter full time. Seven of the top ten teams
Speaker 2: in college football are breaking in new quarterbacks. And again,
Speaker 2: even without the dynamic of the transfer portal and roster changeover,
Speaker 2: this sport has always been orderline, impossible to predict. And
Speaker 2: it's why they build a new casino every three weeks
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Because people think they can predict it. They
Speaker 2: go hit the gambling sites, they lose their shirt. Don't
Speaker 2: gamble on sports, and do not gamble on this sport.
Speaker 2: These are young people and even you know now the
Speaker 2: new reality is most teams have at least thirty forty
Speaker 2: if not more new players. Like I said, Utah states
Speaker 2: number is eighty, I believe the average is closer to
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty five. It makes it borderline impossible to
Speaker 2: understand what could be in front of us without seeing
Speaker 2: the games first, which is why I always say this
Speaker 2: time of year, when it comes to you know, we're
Speaker 2: inching our way towards mid August.
Speaker 1: The fall is going to be here.
Speaker 2: Momentarily, I always say observation, not conclusion, And yes, that
Speaker 2: includes the University of Utah, because I simply have never
Speaker 2: seen Devin Dampier play quarterback before at this level. We
Speaker 2: have tape on Devin playing in New Mexico, we have
Speaker 2: tape on Devin playing in the Mountain West Conference, and
Speaker 2: I can continue to be very impressed with all of
Speaker 2: the praise that's being heaped upon him. But until I
Speaker 2: can actually see you with my own two eyes, I
Speaker 2: can't sit here and tell you.
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Speaker 2: constantly Richard Smith on a Tuesday afternoon. All right, Smitty,
Speaker 2: where do we find you on this beautiful Tuesday.
Speaker 9: Bence, We're calling in from traveling between Barcelona and March, say, France,
Speaker 9: over in Europe. Just on a little trip here with
Speaker 9: our good friends Rick and Sheila Farley, and the weather's great.
Speaker 9: It's supposed to be eighty two and sunny all week long,
Speaker 9: and hopefully we'll have a few good basic coming up
Speaker 9: in the south of France and then hitting the west
Speaker 9: coast of Italy before we got end up in Rome
Speaker 9: over the week then. So a fun trip. Not quite
Speaker 9: the trip down to Murray that you made, but look
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 2: As often say, it's good to be Richard Smith, but
Speaker 2: well deserved after forty years with Utah Jazz Front office.
Speaker 1: Smitty, you know, we.
Speaker 2: Already talked about the George Niang situation when you were
Speaker 2: on last time, and I know it doesn't mean much
Speaker 2: of anything at all. It's restocking the second round pick
Speaker 2: cupboard or adding to the draft capitol covered copboard.
Speaker 1: George Yang the minivan, of course.
Speaker 2: Is a player that you know, and he will be
Speaker 2: back here in saw Lake City as kind of a
Speaker 2: veteran presence in that locker room. So it really is
Speaker 2: kind of the only piece of topical jazz news as
Speaker 2: of now. So let's reset it with your knowledge of George.
Speaker 2: You were with the team when you guys drafted him,
Speaker 2: and you watched him evolve into a really nice role
Speaker 2: player for that group with Donovan and Rudy and Quinn
Speaker 2: and Dennis and everything. So what sort of effect, if anything,
Speaker 2: does this have it all? Could it be beneficial to
Speaker 2: have Jordan Yang back with Utah Jazz?
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's one of those moves Spence that
Speaker 9: that doesn't really affect.
Speaker 10: Them negatively in any way.
Speaker 9: It can only be a positive.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 12: One of the things, of course, that you just mentioned.
Speaker 9: Was the two draft picks that they can put up
Speaker 9: in the in the cupboard and then have that there
Speaker 9: for for any kind of futures going forward. And uh.
Speaker 9: And then the other side is bringing George in, who's
Speaker 9: a good worker. The coaches know him the front off
Speaker 9: his noses. They know he's going to be a good
Speaker 9: guy in the locker room and with the teammates. Firstly,
Speaker 9: I don't know how much you know. He's got to
Speaker 9: be on a good team where where they can get
Speaker 9: him shots. He's not a shot creator, so he's got
Speaker 9: to be able to get get screens and work off
Speaker 9: the ball and and be found on the hook side.
Speaker 9: But you know, when he gets his seat set, he
Speaker 9: can you can get the ball off. He's shooting a
Speaker 9: career high forty, career forty from three in the NBA.
Speaker 9: And then, believe it or not, that he's going to
Speaker 9: be going into his tenth NBA season this year. See,
Speaker 9: he's really worked himself into a bible and modified the
Speaker 9: NBA player. Now, what can we do to affect winning
Speaker 9: with the jazz?
Speaker 12: With the group they have.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure that there's gonna be much there at all,
Speaker 9: but anything they get from him I think will be
Speaker 9: a bonus, just in terms of the work ethic and
Speaker 9: the culture he'll bring to the group on the practice
Speaker 9: floor and in the locker room, and and then of
Speaker 9: course again the use of the second round picks, which
Speaker 9: we won't know for quite a while what they're going
Speaker 9: to do with those, and how those playing for the
Speaker 9: whole mix.
Speaker 8: So it's kind.
Speaker 9: Of one of those slow play moves, you know, by
Speaker 9: a team that's trying to get their feet under them
Speaker 9: and trying to start moving in the possibly the right direction.
Speaker 9: And this is not a big move, but it might
Speaker 9: be a smaller move it maybe help them start that process.
Speaker 2: So where we're at right now on the calendar, as
Speaker 2: we sit here mid August ish, we're still a number
Speaker 2: of weeks away from training camp. Media Day for most
Speaker 2: teams will be September twenty ninth or thirtieth. Training camp
Speaker 2: will start after that, preseason early October Opening night is
Speaker 2: the twenty second. There have been some reports of some
Speaker 2: players in town working out. There have been some social
Speaker 2: media posts of players who have elected to work out elsewhere.
Speaker 2: So just typically speaking in smidty as we sit here
Speaker 2: in mid August, what's what are those boxes NBA teams
Speaker 2: are trying to get checked before training camp opens.
Speaker 1: What's going on with the Jazz right now?
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, they've had a prog individual program for every
Speaker 9: player spent all summer long. For those who are not
Speaker 9: involved in directly in the summer league program, they've had
Speaker 9: individual workout books and put together for them for all
Speaker 9: the stuff they want them to do during the summer time,
Speaker 9: and that's all scheduled out day by day, and it
Speaker 9: puts in their vacation time with their families or or
Speaker 9: places they're going to not being available to work out
Speaker 9: and they plug all those in there, and so the
Speaker 9: individual coaches then they have a responsibility to follow up
Speaker 9: with each one of those players as they're working on
Speaker 9: the individual programs and make.
Speaker 12: Sure they're checking the boxes and they're.
Speaker 9: Getting the individual things they each need done. So when
Speaker 9: they get to training camp, everybody hands in so called
Speaker 9: a completed work well, because yeah, I did all the
Speaker 9: stuff you wanted me to do, and here I am
Speaker 9: and ready to go. You know, that's usually not met
Speaker 9: with a one hundred rating in terms of players having
Speaker 9: done all that stuff. But now it's so detail oriented.
Speaker 9: Coaches are always tracking those players weekly and then sometimes
Speaker 9: several times a week during the course of the summer
Speaker 9: to make sure that they on track with their training
Speaker 9: stuff because they've got to fit in the rest of
Speaker 9: recovery period they got to fit in.
Speaker 8: We have periods.
Speaker 9: They've got to fit in a new new stuff that
Speaker 9: each individual play, right, you're trying to work on and
Speaker 9: how to gauge that and and uh track that, and
Speaker 9: so everybody's got something they're working on, the coaches are
Speaker 9: monitoring it, and then once they get to usually it's
Speaker 9: typically uh after labor day, players start coming in and
Speaker 9: mass and start working with the coaches UH in the
Speaker 9: in the UH in the type of facility, so they
Speaker 9: can then make sure they're on the same page before
Speaker 9: the actual formal training camp start for the UH for
Speaker 9: the team to hold. And that's always where Lately in
Speaker 9: later uh uh years, spence has been kind of a
Speaker 9: blended line. Sometimes it seems like training campus on it
Speaker 9: on September eighth or something, because everybody's in the gym
Speaker 9: and everybody's working on suck. And yet what happens is
Speaker 9: uh uh did the NBA monitored MATP because they make
Speaker 9: sure that the guys are gonna UH can't get into
Speaker 9: organized team practices until a certain date UH and that
Speaker 9: day is mandated by the n b A and so
Speaker 9: all those things are lit and.
Speaker 12: Y and monitor that to make sure that on the
Speaker 12: same page by the time they get UH.
Speaker 9: They get to that first day of official training cap
Speaker 9: all right.
Speaker 2: Smitty Solid Tribune Gordon Monson wrote a piece based off
Speaker 2: of a survey that was done by the Action Sports Network.
Speaker 8: UH.
Speaker 2: The Action Sports Network did an NBA fans survey trying
Speaker 2: to see where fans are at on pricing, on loyalty
Speaker 2: and satisfaction, and it shouldn't be any supprise that when
Speaker 2: it comes to pricing, Only the Nuggets, Raptors, and Calves
Speaker 2: had more fans respond that they feel like they're being
Speaker 2: priced out of the market when it comes to being
Speaker 2: able to attend games and as far as watching games
Speaker 2: in person, The Jazz are among the highest ranked teams
Speaker 2: according to the survey of fans responding that they're not
Speaker 2: interested in watching the team as of right now, and
Speaker 2: then when you go on down to the results portion,
Speaker 2: only Sacramento Kings fans are more displeased with recent results.
Speaker 2: The Kings have actually been decent as of late, it's
Speaker 2: just been a long time since they've had a team
Speaker 2: that could actually contend, so according to this survey, Jazz
Speaker 2: fans are actually now responding as among the most disappointed
Speaker 2: in pro basketball as a result of another recent round
Speaker 2: of price hikes if you want to be a season
Speaker 2: ticket holder, juxtaposed with lack of results leading into now
Speaker 2: the fourth year of whatever they want to call this.
Speaker 2: I know at one point it was a rebuild, and
Speaker 2: they tried to reframe it as a teardown slash rebuild,
Speaker 2: and now they're trying to frame it. It's like, no
Speaker 2: we're actually starting the process now, and none of us
Speaker 2: are under any illusion that this team is going to
Speaker 2: be any good at all. This year, the Vegas over
Speaker 2: under is the lowest it ever has been for the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. They are picked to finish last in the
Speaker 2: conference and among last.
Speaker 1: In the NBA. When you are in the midst and you.
Speaker 2: Guys never had this type of stretch of purgatory. You
Speaker 2: never had this long of a stretch of a team
Speaker 2: that was unseerious about being able to compete at the
Speaker 2: highest of levels. But you did have some rebuilds or
Speaker 2: some pivots here there. What sort of toll does an
Speaker 2: extensive rebuild when you're not winning games take on an organization?
Speaker 2: And what do you make of Jazz fans for the
Speaker 2: first time maybe tangibly expressing some disappointment with the direction
Speaker 2: of the organization.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well it's very hard s first of all, not
Speaker 9: to think the obvious and flow of cliches that, but
Speaker 9: winning in the NBA is very very hard, and winning
Speaker 9: and any kind of consistent level, uh is even on
Speaker 9: another tier. And uh, what you have to do as
Speaker 9: a front office mooop in an organizations to have a
Speaker 9: plan in place that that you feel it can be
Speaker 9: able to show some mincum of progress on a year
Speaker 9: to year basis, can give us everybody the opportunity to
Speaker 9: look at it and say, hey, it.
Speaker 12: Looks like we are making some pot.
Speaker 9: Done.
Speaker 12: Uh, but it's going to take it a little time.
Speaker 9: We mentioned in a previous show where that happened when
Speaker 9: the Josh first moved to Colake and the uh near
Speaker 9: the eighties. It's Frank Lane took.
Speaker 12: Over and started drafting.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 9: Well, had to do that over a six year period. Really,
Speaker 9: you start with Daryl Griffith and and pil Bailey and
Speaker 9: Market and the body answered and Don Stockton and call
Speaker 9: him alone, and then you throw in Dominique Wiltons.
Speaker 12: They drafted. It was obviously a great DRAFTI never same
Speaker 12: here for the financial leads up that.
Speaker 9: They had him in that mix, uh for a moment.
Speaker 9: And then off of the Stag and Danty. You had
Speaker 9: a lot of moves and you had to hit on
Speaker 9: a lot of them, and then you had to collect
Speaker 9: them into a working group that can see some progress
Speaker 9: and start building up. And but that was a five
Speaker 9: six year process before they had pieces in place, and
Speaker 9: now another three four or five years of building on
Speaker 9: that where everybody felt comfortable working with each other, uh
Speaker 9: and seeing winds start piling up and uh the vision
Speaker 9: titles start start coming away and making that kinde of
Speaker 9: project maybe chastified themselves. Now is that they they started
Speaker 9: that process, I could say one and whatever.
Speaker 12: You want to call it, however you want to couch it.
Speaker 12: The bottom lineers they.
Speaker 9: On the day that they decided to trade everybody away,
Speaker 9: there's no you know, you don't get any uh freebies
Speaker 9: or doovers or anything like that. You know, when you
Speaker 9: two the baby out with the basketball to start to
Speaker 9: speak and getting rid of the Mitchell and go bath
Speaker 9: teams and all those guys, uh, you are starting over.
Speaker 9: And so that's where they're at now.
Speaker 10: Now they've got a lot of young guys and they're
Speaker 10: trying to figure out how to had a piece them
Speaker 10: together and how they're gonna work together, and they're hoping
Speaker 10: uh but some luck.
Speaker 9: Obviously, the big ticket at the moment in that process
Speaker 9: for them, of course, was this uh uhuh dis draft
Speaker 9: a process where they're hoping to get the numbers.
Speaker 2: All right, Smitty, we're gonna set you loose, uh the
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Speaker 2: the game on Sunday, addressed the media via zoom. We'll
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Speaker 2: frustrated with officials.
Speaker 1: How does Rwan Cruz look?
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Speaker 2: RSL in action coming up the weekend?
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Speaker 1: Ben Solac later on, Max Brown later on, we got
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Speaker 2: Master Johnny hops on on a Tuesday afternoon Pop's happy Tuesday.
Speaker 13: How we doing happy to do this well? Buds?
Speaker 1: Are we really doing well? Are we really doing well?
Speaker 2: I mean look frustrating series of events against New York
Speaker 2: after taking that one no lead is gozo tallied really
Speaker 2: early on? Uh, now that we're a couple of days away,
Speaker 2: where are you at with what I perceived to be?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: Some?
Speaker 1: And I'm not a blame the officials, guy, I really
Speaker 1: am not.
Speaker 2: But when it appears to be egregious and honestly what
Speaker 2: it appears to be like the same dude, it's hard
Speaker 2: to entirely ignore. So which targets on a Tuesday afternoon,
Speaker 2: are you still most fired up about.
Speaker 1: After a really, really tough series of events that went
Speaker 1: against you guys against New York?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 13: You know again, I think the way I always look
Speaker 13: at these things in reflection is like, what could we
Speaker 13: have done differently from from our standpoint? Obviously in the
Speaker 13: in in the short term, which is the game, which
Speaker 13: is the thing that matters the most, is about getting
Speaker 13: the result. And obviously, when those calls are to your point,
Speaker 13: is egregious as they were, and left everyone really confused
Speaker 13: as to how you know, the processes work with within
Speaker 13: the league, you know, and those those decisions obviously affect results,
Speaker 13: and that's that's the hardest thing to swallow and then
Speaker 13: obviously afterwards, I think through three days later, we're talking
Speaker 13: about different phases of the game that we can improve
Speaker 13: upon to have more control of the ball, to play
Speaker 13: the game more on our terms. But the other part
Speaker 13: of that too that you didn't touch on was the field.
Speaker 13: And you know, I talked to their head coach before
Speaker 13: the game and he says, I don't think we should
Speaker 13: play this game based upon the field conditions. I mean
Speaker 13: it was it was unplayable, and so you put all
Speaker 13: that together and it is one of those where you
Speaker 13: just had to find a way to get out. But
Speaker 13: again the two penalty calls. You know, here, here's here's
Speaker 13: my biggest disappointment with with the process of of how
Speaker 13: the ar works. Right to the two operative words and
Speaker 13: and how they're pitching this to all the clubs and
Speaker 13: all the coaches. Is clear and obvious, right, There's got
Speaker 13: to be a clear and odd vious mistake by the official,
Speaker 13: not a technicality, not maybe not if right, And so
Speaker 13: what ends up happening, Spence is our stadiums are not
Speaker 13: staffed to have camera angles from every possible angle to
Speaker 13: make sure that it's clear and obvious. That's the first problem,
Speaker 13: and so on bear's BK. It looks like you gets
Speaker 13: the piece of the ball. You could argue maybe you
Speaker 13: did get it. Depending on the angle, it leads you
Speaker 13: to two different results. And so then it goes back
Speaker 13: to their statement about clear and obvious. And so my
Speaker 13: whole thing is, if there's an official standing underneath the
Speaker 13: monitor for more than thirty seconds, it is no longer
Speaker 13: clear and obvious, right. And so each one of those instances,
Speaker 13: and then the off side is called a whole different
Speaker 13: bag of chips, right because the line's been called it offside,
Speaker 13: and our cameras are from midfield, and so you know
Speaker 13: how the angle of the view to the ball is
Speaker 13: not going to be as clear as a professional who
Speaker 13: beamed it off sides. And so when when when both
Speaker 13: of these plays affect exactly what they what they speak
Speaker 13: to us about is that we're not going to re
Speaker 13: referee the game. We're just going to make sure that
Speaker 13: the call wasn't an egregious non caller an egregious call,
Speaker 13: And and so they're they're basically re refereeing the game
Speaker 13: using bar and and again again. When when it leads
Speaker 13: to uh drop points is the moment where everyone's shaking
Speaker 13: their heads. And so tomorrow I'm on a call with uh,
Speaker 13: you know, Kurt and and then the competition head at
Speaker 13: MLS along with the head of of pro referees to
Speaker 13: get down to the the nitty gritty as to why
Speaker 13: these decisions were made. And again, they're not going to
Speaker 13: give us any points back, but if they can improve
Speaker 13: processes for for everyone moving forward. I think at least
Speaker 13: we didn't lose points in Vain.
Speaker 2: So there's a small part of me that believes d
Speaker 2: A needs a little time off. Okay, small part of
Speaker 2: me that believes he's just a little bit on fumes.
Speaker 1: And we talked about that.
Speaker 2: So I suppose, you know, not having him this weekend
Speaker 2: might be beneficial for the stretch run.
Speaker 1: But you got to help me understand. I mean, the Kyle.
Speaker 2: Duncan kid pulled him down, and it looked pretty obvious
Speaker 2: in real time. The assistant ref had the correct call,
Speaker 2: correct right, and and and so ultimately, you know, Diego
Speaker 2: sent off and then they send Kyle off upon review.
Speaker 2: I'm just confused, man, Like, help me understand that series
Speaker 2: of events.
Speaker 1: How did you digest that from your vantage point the.
Speaker 13: Same way you did Spence? The lineman had it right,
Speaker 13: he blew a foul against this guy, so and the
Speaker 13: way he grabbed him around his neck, Diego had no
Speaker 13: choice but the fall on the guy. There's no other
Speaker 13: there's no other place for him to go. He's dragging
Speaker 13: him on his hip. So and again like, this is
Speaker 13: what I want to know from from tomorrow's chat with
Speaker 13: these guys as as the how they're doing these things
Speaker 13: and how these decisions like it. You know, because Diego
Speaker 13: got a yellow card for talking to the ref earlier on,
Speaker 13: so I don't know if it was personal between the
Speaker 13: ref and Diego and he wanted to, you know, and
Speaker 13: he wanted to make a point, but like it's just,
Speaker 13: you know, you lose one of the most you know,
Speaker 13: important players on our team and obviously and one of
Speaker 13: the guys in our league that's doing really well by
Speaker 13: not owning that moment as a center ref and saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 13: is this is this you know, going to talk to
Speaker 13: the linesman. What happened to those days when you'd have
Speaker 13: dialogue with the linesman and say, hey, listen, what did
Speaker 13: you see And he's like, well, I saw him put
Speaker 13: his arm around his next so we had nowhere to
Speaker 13: go Okay, great, So it's a foul our way. So
Speaker 13: there's a lot of these instances that I think could
Speaker 13: be dealt with if their processes are improved and the
Speaker 13: communication is improved. Because all of this led to and
Speaker 13: what was really disappointing is they went back and reviewed
Speaker 13: after they had a free kick up a man right
Speaker 13: because they sent Diego off but they didn't send Duncan off.
Speaker 13: And then they have a free kick of a man
Speaker 13: which if they would have done everything right and said,
Speaker 13: hey listen, he put them in the choke hold before
Speaker 13: the playton started, none of this would have even happened. So,
Speaker 13: you know, and we talk about all the time, is
Speaker 13: we got to control the controllables, and unfortunately the uncontrollables
Speaker 13: for us impacted the way that game finished and the result.
Speaker 2: One more thing on the officials, and then we'll move
Speaker 2: off of it because other things to get to for sure.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe around two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine thereabouts when our team started to
Speaker 2: get a little bit better and the club started to
Speaker 2: play better, and you know, we would always have these
Speaker 2: conversations about how the sport and how the league is evolving.
Speaker 2: Is the talent better, Is the coaching better, are the
Speaker 2: facilities better, more soccer specific stadiums, And it seemed like
Speaker 2: the one thing that wasn't improving was the officials.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how.
Speaker 2: You would articulate that, but for a league that is
Speaker 2: adding uh, you know Sunny Thomas Mueller, Lionel Messi, I
Speaker 2: mean some real international powerhouses and you know, owners that
Speaker 2: are coming in with deeper pockets and valuations for teams
Speaker 2: that are through the roof, and soccer specific stadiums being
Speaker 2: built all across the country, does it feel like the
Speaker 2: officiating from a macro viewpoint is keeping up with the
Speaker 2: progress that every other facet of this sport in this
Speaker 2: league seems to be kind of manifesting right now.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's a good question, and I would
Speaker 13: say I would say it's it's it's pretty inconsistent, you know.
Speaker 13: I think a well reffed game is a game where
Speaker 13: you don't even realize who the center f is, you know,
Speaker 13: and it's and everything's calm. Everything is like the fouls
Speaker 13: er fouls and not no fouls or no fouls, and
Speaker 13: there's consistency in the way the game is, the game
Speaker 13: is refed and sometimes you need to blow to us
Speaker 13: a little bit more because the games chip yer, but
Speaker 13: it's understandable from both sides. I think what what the
Speaker 13: frustrating part is is is the lack of consistency and
Speaker 13: within the one game. Right within the one game, it
Speaker 13: just feels like it's really one sided. And so I
Speaker 13: think a big thing that would help this and more,
Speaker 13: you know, is the var and the implementation of how
Speaker 13: we're going to utilize that and how it's used. I
Speaker 13: think it you know, we're given the ref so much
Speaker 13: to do by going over to the video and spending
Speaker 13: four or five minutes underneath.
Speaker 8: This camera the game.
Speaker 13: Meanwhile, the players and the fans come to see the players,
Speaker 13: not the referee underneath the video. So if we can
Speaker 13: improve that, and then as far as the off sides is,
Speaker 13: if we want to be a top league, I think
Speaker 13: we have to invest in getting these lines that other
Speaker 13: leagues in the world have, so where it's not it's
Speaker 13: not subjective. It's not like looking down a bad camera
Speaker 13: angle and guessing if these off sides and it's a
Speaker 13: red line and a blue line, and if the blue
Speaker 13: lines over the red line, then it's off side, and
Speaker 13: it's really really clear, And I think because what you
Speaker 13: don't want is the conversation to be about the inconsistency
Speaker 13: and refereeing. If you're gonna, you know, if you're going
Speaker 13: to bring in talent from abroad, you want that to
Speaker 13: be the last thing these guys are considering. So I
Speaker 13: think there there's got to be some some some improvements.
Speaker 13: And and it's not. Again, it's not like they're not
Speaker 13: working hard every day because I know, I've seen the
Speaker 13: protocols to be a ref and it's daunting the amount
Speaker 13: of physical work, the amount of reviews they do. But
Speaker 13: it comes down to the presence in the game, you know,
Speaker 13: you know, having this presence where it's going to be.
Speaker 13: If it's a little bit hectic, I'm gonna bring it
Speaker 13: down a little bit, but I'm going to keep it
Speaker 13: both ways so that the game is intact. At times,
Speaker 13: I feel like the game is actually compromised at times
Speaker 13: by some of the decisions that are being called.
Speaker 2: All right, moving off that topic, and let's just talk
Speaker 2: about the game. I don't let's start with the goal.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite goals. You guys have scored
Speaker 2: all year. I we don't know how many passes maybe eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 2: Diego's left footed ball, It's just like, that's so wild
Speaker 2: that he was able to find Willie who laid it
Speaker 2: off and Gozo finishes. So give me your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the start, the build up that led to a one
Speaker 2: to lead, and then a tenant to the question is
Speaker 2: do you guys think you were Do you think you
Speaker 2: guys were dangerous enough after that sands all the officiating
Speaker 2: stuff that we've talked about.
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, that's a great point.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 13: I think again, going into this field, I think there's
Speaker 13: two different two different ways of operating. One we can
Speaker 13: play to the field or we can play true to
Speaker 13: who we are, right and so we're a team that
Speaker 13: again we want to pull teams. We want to build
Speaker 13: from the back, not just to be arrogant in the
Speaker 13: way we play, but there's actually a tactical application where
Speaker 13: if you bring a team forward right to pressure goalkeeper,
Speaker 13: that means you're you're you're. The whole thought process in
Speaker 13: playing short close to goal is to exploit the space
Speaker 13: behind the back line because and it becomes dangerous. So
Speaker 13: we call those fats attacks and that play I think
Speaker 13: it was like a twelve thirteen pass combination. It goes
Speaker 13: out left, it comes inside to Mecca, Mecha finds our ten,
Speaker 13: and Luna finds our forward, and William finds our second
Speaker 13: forward and Gozo and so I think that that is
Speaker 13: like textbook training ground application, and the guys did it
Speaker 13: really well. I think after the goal, a couple things
Speaker 13: started happening. One, we couldn't get enough pressure on the
Speaker 13: ball from our guys up front, and that was the
Speaker 13: first part. And when we didn't, when we did win
Speaker 13: the ball back closer to our goal, we weren't dynamic
Speaker 13: enough in our transition to attack to be able to
Speaker 13: beat their repress. In other words, there's a rule that
Speaker 13: most pressing teams use was six seconds after you lose
Speaker 13: the ball, you got to get pressure on the ball, right.
Speaker 13: So the opposite of that is we need six seconds
Speaker 13: of extra movement and angles to be able to beat
Speaker 13: that press. And what happened was we found ourselves defending
Speaker 13: quite a bit, and that six seconds has to be
Speaker 13: a switched on and we were late to every one
Speaker 13: of those transition to attack moments, which then compounded we're
Speaker 13: now deep defending again, right, And I think a lot
Speaker 13: of that had to do with the field and those
Speaker 13: little short passes, the balls hoping everywhere it's going, and
Speaker 13: so we weren't really clean and then you start losing
Speaker 13: a bit of confidence in your ability to play out
Speaker 13: And so I would say not until the second half,
Speaker 13: and probably fifteen minutes in the second half we regain
Speaker 13: our footing, and a big part of that was Pablo
Speaker 13: Luis coming into the game and calming the game and
Speaker 13: being that outlet pass that found the next pass that
Speaker 13: allowed the team to move forward and breathe, and then
Speaker 13: from there we were able to create two or three
Speaker 13: really good attacks on goal and if not for the crossbar,
Speaker 13: found the second goal to win it. So you know,
Speaker 13: today's session was really focusing on our transition to attack
Speaker 13: and making sure that we're moving six seconds after we
Speaker 13: win the ball in order to make sure that we're
Speaker 13: able to keep it and not get stuck in this
Speaker 13: tidal wave. But defending close to our goal.
Speaker 2: Help me understand how in a professional setting a field,
Speaker 2: because it was interesting. I didn't know you felt the
Speaker 2: way you felt until post game, but I'm watching the match,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that looks like a local muni field in
Speaker 2: like you know, West Valley, that hasn't been watered in five.
Speaker 1: Six, seven weeks or whatever. How is that allowed?
Speaker 2: How are conditions like that allowed when it comes to
Speaker 2: a professional league in the biggest major metropolitan area in
Speaker 2: our country by the way, you know, like it is
Speaker 2: New York like PF, Like, how is this allowed? And
Speaker 2: what sort of benchmarks or you know, guardrails are in
Speaker 2: place to kind of keep this from happening again, Yeah, you.
Speaker 13: Know, I think, well, here's the thing is, obviously every
Speaker 13: club is trying to maximize the revenue. They had a
Speaker 13: concert on that field a few days before the game,
Speaker 13: and you know, I talked to the coach, like I said,
Speaker 13: before the game, and he actually commented after the game
Speaker 13: and said that game shouldn't have been played. The field
Speaker 13: was not in any kind of standard to be played.
Speaker 13: At one point, Spence, I had the fourth official step
Speaker 13: onto the field because I'm not allowed to step on
Speaker 13: the field, But there was a one and a half
Speaker 13: foot by one and a half foot plot of sod
Speaker 13: that just lifted up and there was like probably an
Speaker 13: eight inch pivot and and so again, like this is
Speaker 13: the one sport where you're using your feet and the
Speaker 13: most important part of any stadium is the actual turf
Speaker 13: that you're playing on, right, So it's not like it's
Speaker 13: American football and you're running routes. The ball needs to
Speaker 13: roll on something. And and if we're going to be
Speaker 13: a team that that prides themselves on playing with the
Speaker 13: ball on the ground and combination play, well, this is
Speaker 13: obviously not conducive to any of that. And and to
Speaker 13: be fair to Red Bull that they're a team that
Speaker 13: wants to play too and in a lot of different facets,
Speaker 13: but they're aware that the field isn't that.
Speaker 8: Way, and.
Speaker 13: You know that they're they're a more direct team where
Speaker 13: they're where they're playing balls forward and knocking it down
Speaker 13: and so you know, but to be fair that their
Speaker 13: own coach said the same thing I did. It's not safe,
Speaker 13: especially when you have these million million plus players, you know,
Speaker 13: dollar players on the field. Our biggest asset as a
Speaker 13: league are the players themselves, and we're putting them in
Speaker 13: the arms way by by playing on you know, fields
Speaker 13: that are that are in that type of condition.
Speaker 1: Let me go back to Diego for a moment.
Speaker 2: Is there a part of you that does kind of
Speaker 2: feel like he might need a weekend off to kind
Speaker 2: of decompress and rest and get his legs on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you he's probably your best player, so.
Speaker 2: Of course you want him in the lineup, and you're
Speaker 2: a better team with him. I'm not saying you're not,
Speaker 2: but is there a part of you atsch all right,
Speaker 2: I could take the weekend off and let's get you
Speaker 2: back ready, you know, with fresh legs.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and yes, yes, one hundred percent agree with that.
Speaker 13: I think the toughest thing to do with, especially a
Speaker 13: young player, you know, in Diego Luna, because we we
Speaker 13: oftentimes forget that he's only twenty one years old, and
Speaker 13: his rise to where he is now almost seems like
Speaker 13: it's you know, it's in the last eight months, what's
Speaker 13: it's been bruined, but like the last you know, four months.
Speaker 13: Really he's shot up in the you know, the stratosphere.
Speaker 13: As far as recognition, we don't go to one stadium
Speaker 13: where he doesn't have fifty to one hundred people waiting
Speaker 13: for him after games, you know, people waiting for him
Speaker 13: at the hotels, and the amount of media that he does. Right,
Speaker 13: so all these things are parlane into like performance, you know,
Speaker 13: because you went from not having it to all of
Speaker 13: a sudden how do you deal with this kind of stuff?
Speaker 13: And so that's one thing that we're talking about internally
Speaker 13: is how do we take some of the weight off
Speaker 13: of them? And that's one area that we can definitely
Speaker 13: do it. The other areas on the field, and you know,
Speaker 13: for a young player, he's not he doesn't have enough
Speaker 13: experience in his career to be like, yeah, I need
Speaker 13: a break here, and like he's open and honest about
Speaker 13: needing a break, right, he wants to keep proving because
Speaker 13: what got him to this point wasn't taking a break.
Speaker 13: It was put it is, put your foot on the
Speaker 13: on the gas and pressed as hard as you can, right.
Speaker 13: And so I think this moment is is a is
Speaker 13: a great, a great way that the universe has has
Speaker 13: allowed for us to give him a break in a
Speaker 13: way that he can't resist because it's it's already happened, right,
Speaker 13: And so I think it's critical. I think he needs
Speaker 13: a bit of a reset. He's been going hard since
Speaker 13: the beginning of June without a break. And you know,
Speaker 13: I think I'm giving him a break by not starting
Speaker 13: him against Sam Luis and what he Okay, so we
Speaker 13: didn't play fifty minutes, but he's still doing all those
Speaker 13: other things. So I think, you know, maybe giving him
Speaker 13: after tomorrow, giving them the weekend, a good four or
Speaker 13: five day break where he can kind of reset, be
Speaker 13: with his his his son in Texas and get away
Speaker 13: from it all so that he charges his batteries back
Speaker 13: and and when he's when he's recharged and he's you know,
Speaker 13: dialed in. There's no doubt that diga Luna makes us
Speaker 13: a great team.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So we've seen Rowan Cruz a couple of different times
Speaker 2: in and you know, de truncated moments in league's cup
Speaker 2: play or final match. We saw him for a minute
Speaker 2: and then he came on in the second half against
Speaker 2: New York. Things like this take time, and this is
Speaker 2: a process. So let's start with Rwan. What have you
Speaker 2: made of the performances as you put him in as
Speaker 2: a sub over the past couple of games, And probably
Speaker 2: more importantly, Pablo, what are you seeing in training that
Speaker 2: indicates when this thing kind of gets rolling, he could
Speaker 2: be a good addition.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I would say he's got a really really good understanding
Speaker 13: of the game, and I think that soccer i Q
Speaker 13: in that part of the field is really really important.
Speaker 13: You know, I think he's he saw in the New
Speaker 13: York game where he did really well receiving the ball
Speaker 13: with his back to goal, so his hold up play
Speaker 13: was solid. Decisions from that were really solid. And then
Speaker 13: there's also a moment or two where he made runs
Speaker 13: behind the back line and was able to stretch it.
Speaker 13: And so I think when you have a player with
Speaker 13: a high soccer intelligence that's comfortable with the ball at
Speaker 13: his feet, with his back goal and then also running
Speaker 13: into space, it really allows us to be more diverse
Speaker 13: than the way we attack. And and so he's been awesome,
Speaker 13: you know, Looking towards this week, I think it's a
Speaker 13: great opportunity to start him. You know, physically, we still
Speaker 13: don't know exactly where he's at. He's had a start,
Speaker 13: stop and preseason with the team that he came from
Speaker 13: in Brazil. But I think this is as good as
Speaker 13: opportunities ever to kind of get him in there, gain
Speaker 13: some minutes, gain some confidence, and to continue sharpening those
Speaker 13: those those actions that I think will be really really
Speaker 13: good for us down a stretch.
Speaker 2: I asked Kurt this last week, I'm curious to get
Speaker 2: your take as a player. One of the things I've
Speaker 2: always had a difficult time really grasping as somebody who
Speaker 2: tries to analyze the game and analyze the league, is
Speaker 2: how players that come from other parts of the world
Speaker 2: are prepared to play in MLS juxtaposed to the league
Speaker 2: they were just in. Okay, So help me understand Rwan's
Speaker 2: level prior to landing with you and whether or not
Speaker 2: you think that's the right type of preparation to acclimate
Speaker 2: to MLS quickly, because let's be honest, you need him
Speaker 2: to tacklimate quickly.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I think the only the best metric
Speaker 13: we can use is the fact that he's played abroad
Speaker 13: before and so his acclamation to a new environment won't
Speaker 13: be shocking to him. And that's about where it ends, Spence,
Speaker 13: because every league plays different. The weather is different, Like
Speaker 13: there's not too many leagues in Europe that are playing
Speaker 13: in the summertime, and so like the heat thing is real.
Speaker 13: You know, the distance and travel right, so that for
Speaker 13: four and a half hour flight to New York, that's
Speaker 13: not common in any league in the world. So there's
Speaker 13: a lot of things that you just don't know how
Speaker 13: they're going to assimilate. And that's why it takes a
Speaker 13: lot longer, and then here we have you know, we
Speaker 13: have it. We have a we have a nice stadium
Speaker 13: here at aff H And then we go to New
Speaker 13: York and we're playing on a sand lot with with
Speaker 13: a little bit of grass, and then this weekend we're
Speaker 13: going to Charlotte and playing on turf. So there's so
Speaker 13: many variables that you can't prepare for and you won't know,
Speaker 13: and that's why I think it takes time to acclimate,
Speaker 13: not to mention the tactics for our team are going
Speaker 13: to be different than the tactics at his club. The
Speaker 13: asks for the forward positions and in Brazil where he
Speaker 13: was just currently at will be different than what we're
Speaker 13: asking given our group. And then it's also understanding your teammates.
Speaker 13: And you know, what's the difference between when Brian o'heeda's
Speaker 13: on the ball versus Pablo Luis on the ball, Well,
Speaker 13: Pablo Reice is always going to find passes between the
Speaker 13: lines and find passes beyond. Oh hey, there's going to
Speaker 13: be a guy that just you know, dribbles and breaks
Speaker 13: lines with the dribble. And so there's that there's that
Speaker 13: acclamation phase where you're starting trying to understand the team tactics,
Speaker 13: but within that, understand the different abilities of the different
Speaker 13: players who will be feeding you the ball. So I
Speaker 13: think that's the toughest thing. And and and some some
Speaker 13: players assimilate real quickly, some take a little bit of time.
Speaker 13: But but I think, given his soccer intelligence and acumen,
Speaker 13: I think Ron will adapt to our league rather quickly.
Speaker 2: All right, before segul loose, let's get an update on
Speaker 2: the Olatunji kid. I know we're working on his work visa,
Speaker 2: so where are we at in that process? And just
Speaker 2: kind of same question, what have you learned about him
Speaker 2: in a few days and weeks he's.
Speaker 1: Been on the ground now.
Speaker 13: Yeah, so again what I've what I've noticed is a
Speaker 13: real propensity to score goals. Uh, you know, his his
Speaker 13: left foot, his power, his right foot, his power and
Speaker 13: placement great in the air. He's been finishing some unbelievable
Speaker 13: crosses and we haven't really had that presence uh in
Speaker 13: front of goal as far as just fall in and
Speaker 13: he makes it happen. So and again, he's a he's
Speaker 13: a player that more threatens the back line. He's a
Speaker 13: willing runner to where you know, I think Ron likes
Speaker 13: to come defeat.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 13: You know, Victor likes his wretch and so having that
Speaker 13: balance would be really really important for our group. And
Speaker 13: you know what I've seen in you know, in the
Speaker 13: five or six training sessions we've had with him, is
Speaker 13: he's a real threat front of goal, which is awesome.
Speaker 13: And then again, what does that do to our opposing defenses.
Speaker 13: They might have to man mark, they might have to
Speaker 13: double team, which then opens up space for the guys
Speaker 13: underneath to do their thing. And so when you have
Speaker 13: guys like you know, rule On on the field, you
Speaker 13: have a victor on the field. Diego, diego. I mean
Speaker 13: it feels like, you know, they're gonna have to pick
Speaker 13: and choose where they want to double up and where
Speaker 13: they want to go man to man. And and if
Speaker 13: teams do go man to man, I'll put I'll put
Speaker 13: my money on on on the guys that we have
Speaker 13: on the field to be able to break them down
Speaker 13: and make plays. So I think we've improved our frontline
Speaker 13: drastically in this window. And we're just still awaiting the
Speaker 13: clearance for as far as is Visa is concerned.
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, Well, as you know, you can't exist
Speaker 2: in the past so go get three.
Speaker 1: At Charlotte and pulling for you as always. Next for
Speaker 1: the time, let's go all rights.
Speaker 13: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Pablo Meschnuenti, RSL head coach. The club is back in
Speaker 2: action this weekend on the road against Charlotte. They'll be
Speaker 2: back home against Minnesota on the twenty third before we're
Speaker 2: going to go up to Lumanfield to take on Seattle
Speaker 2: below the playoff line after the loss over the weekend,
Speaker 2: so we'll see. Pablo just said, Ron Cruising going to
Speaker 2: get a start coming up, so a new piece for
Speaker 2: Rail Salt Lake. All right, we'll bring you some sound
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Speaker 15: Him You Bucks fan, Yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 7: I did the scrimmage got saturday.
Speaker 1: You all went well.
Speaker 15: It wasn't as physical as some scrimmage as we've had
Speaker 15: with the ones. We had most of the ones that
Speaker 15: thud work, not live and so that was a little
Speaker 15: bit different in that regard. We've done that in the
Speaker 15: past at times, and we just felt like that was
Speaker 15: the best approach for the first scrimmage. Two's got all
Speaker 15: the live work. They were live in the entire scrimmage
Speaker 15: and so had some good teaching tape. And I think
Speaker 15: we're in a good place right now. We're got ten
Speaker 15: practice in after today and fifteen more go then we're
Speaker 15: ready to play.
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about the wide receiver group?
Speaker 15: And that group is coming along. We feel like we've
Speaker 15: identified the top seven to seven or eight guys that
Speaker 15: are going to be the travelers and that we're going
Speaker 15: to sink all the rips into the rest of the world,
Speaker 15: so that that group is really starting to gel.
Speaker 1: I guess you could.
Speaker 14: Say what look like with your running back dep go.
Speaker 15: You know, the top two guys would be way Shawn
Speaker 15: Parker and Coari Rodgers, not necessarily in that order. They're
Speaker 15: interchangeable as the one. We're also, you know, having some
Speaker 15: good production from Daniel Bray racing Gillery, a couple of
Speaker 15: freshmen that really look like they have a lot of promise.
Speaker 15: And then of course Devin is like a running back
Speaker 15: back there at times, and so he's adding to what
Speaker 15: we're doing. And then you know, you've got guys running
Speaker 15: the speed sweeps, the wide receivers that are that are
Speaker 15: giving a supplement of the yards as well.
Speaker 7: Do you not see like a workhorse type situation?
Speaker 15: While the committee not yet, not yet, it's more bi
Speaker 15: committee at this point, but again it's still early. We've
Speaker 15: got fifteen practices left and we'll see how it continues
Speaker 15: to develop.
Speaker 1: Has anybody emerged in the back of the quarterback?
Speaker 15: No, that's tight as it was prior to the scrimmage.
Speaker 15: They both did some really good things in the scrimmage.
Speaker 15: They they made in some mistakes and so that's an
Speaker 15: ongoing process. The competition continues, and right now I would
Speaker 15: say that's going to continue at least through the next
Speaker 15: scrimmage and the next and final scrimmage, which will be
Speaker 15: driving and we gotta we gotta make a decision shortly thereafter.
Speaker 6: But but it'll continue until then with both of those guys.
Speaker 14: And how confident are you that they could get in
Speaker 14: there if Devin needs time offer?
Speaker 1: Like, where are you at in terms of kind of.
Speaker 15: The did Yeah, that's a good question. Obviously, Isaac is
Speaker 15: the one that has the Division one experience and that
Speaker 15: definitely will has helped him and will help him if
Speaker 15: he's called upon this year. We're not sure how Bird
Speaker 15: will react in a game situation. He's he's just a
Speaker 15: true finishment and so that's that works in Isaac's favorite
Speaker 15: as far as the experience factor. The Bird is a
Speaker 15: guy that is very mature, doesn't seem a finch when
Speaker 15: is when his numbers called and when he gets his opportunities,
Speaker 15: and so we would have, you know, whichever one emerges
Speaker 15: as the guy, we'll have confidence in him and a way.
Speaker 9: To got the You've got the five freshman defensive tackles
Speaker 9: that we're looking for help from.
Speaker 16: How is that?
Speaker 6: How is that group is good?
Speaker 15: We think those guys have a ton of upside. And
Speaker 15: the position group, the detacled position group, is going to
Speaker 15: be well stocked for years to come. You say that
Speaker 15: with the port of us, you never know, but at
Speaker 15: least right now, we feel like we're in a good place.
Speaker 15: Couple is ready doing a great job. Capuci kids doing
Speaker 15: a great job. They're all they're all doing things well,
Speaker 15: and they're all coming along and learning and getting better
Speaker 15: each day. But we think that we're gonna have some
Speaker 15: real superstars marching. That One of.
Speaker 7: The big differences between Rogers and Parker in the backfield.
Speaker 15: Well not a ton. They're both similar in size, you know, five, ten,
Speaker 15: five or eleven. We got two hundred and ten pounds. They
Speaker 15: both do an outstanding job of picking up blitzer and
Speaker 15: they're not afraid.
Speaker 1: They stick their nose in there.
Speaker 15: And they're north and South guys. So they run behind
Speaker 15: their pads well and get up field, and they both
Speaker 15: have good hands, so they're they're very similar. NCR just
Speaker 15: has more experience, you know. Wait, sone's just a true.
Speaker 1: Soft separation on that final corner spot.
Speaker 15: Oppositely Scotty Blake Cotton right now is starting to make
Speaker 15: a push and so I'd say he's got the uh,
Speaker 15: he's got the edge right now.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Coach Wit.
Speaker 2: Media availability a little early earlier on. I'll take this
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Speaker 2: Let's move over now to QB one. You guys know him,
Speaker 2: excited to watch him play. Here's Devin damp here.
Speaker 1: Devin, how did you.
Speaker 7: Think the scrimmage went on Saturday? Within just the offensive progression?
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the scrimmage wing very well. You can
Speaker 16: tell everyone's getting a lot more comfortable Esechly, you know,
Speaker 16: getting to see a running backs get tackled, you know,
Speaker 16: it's a little harder to get tackled when we get
Speaker 16: to the day, So it was just good to see
Speaker 16: us clicking our all set.
Speaker 2: And who were the guys that stood out to you
Speaker 2: in terms of your pass catchers and receiver situs that.
Speaker 16: Sort of Yeah, you know, I think Larry had a
Speaker 16: very big day for him. He's getting more comfortable through it.
Speaker 16: But uh, you know, I thought we had a very
Speaker 16: good day all around.
Speaker 1: Very limited drops.
Speaker 17: You know, I think I think everybody was making plays.
Speaker 7: What do you think of those two guys behind you
Speaker 7: and uh and Rogers and Parker. I mean they're kind
Speaker 7: of similar. They both could you know, beat you with speed.
Speaker 7: They are both power backs as well. How do you
Speaker 7: differentiate the two Yeah.
Speaker 16: Uh yeah, no, they they're very you know one too
Speaker 16: that it's very rotational, so uh, I mean I love it.
Speaker 16: I know if I hand that ball off, they're gonna
Speaker 16: give me four or five. So, uh, you know, that's
Speaker 16: a great feeling to have as a quarterback.
Speaker 9: Devin.
Speaker 14: Compared to where you were at last year at this point,
Speaker 14: how do you feel like your game is changer?
Speaker 11: How do you kind of assess your game right now here?
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I always feel like the game just
Speaker 16: gets sower and sower by the year. You know, you
Speaker 16: get more comfortable with the guys and stuff, and uh,
Speaker 16: just me being more in the leadership uh role now
Speaker 16: than I was last year. Just being able to bring
Speaker 16: people on and uh, I think you know, we're we're
Speaker 16: building something here. Uh, I'm very excited for this game
Speaker 16: coming up.
Speaker 1: They have a strong running game like you do.
Speaker 7: Do you think that takes some of the pressure off
Speaker 7: with your ability to run or not ability, but you
Speaker 7: don't have to take as many chances to try to
Speaker 7: you know, risk injury and and and keep the ball yourself.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I think football is on those games
Speaker 16: you rather you win with the past, you win with
Speaker 16: the run. So just to make sure that they have
Speaker 16: to respect our run game, our receiver is gonna have
Speaker 16: a field day as well, so you know works vice versa.
Speaker 1: You have a bunch of experience in this offense.
Speaker 3: How do you feel that the players around you that
Speaker 3: maybe are new to it, how are they adjusting and
Speaker 3: how's the installment?
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think they're adjusting very well. They asked me
Speaker 16: questions what they can do better, and uh, you know
Speaker 16: that's that's just a great that's just a great thing
Speaker 16: going into football when you can get on the same cylinders.
Speaker 16: It's all about brotherhood and just having any fish and play,
Speaker 16: so everyone wants to buy in.
Speaker 6: We've heard a lot about JJ Buchanan.
Speaker 14: What what have you seen from him to give you
Speaker 14: confidence that he could be a guy this year? Yeah,
Speaker 14: day did a freaking nature to have someone that big
Speaker 14: and that that athletic and just at that young age
Speaker 14: to be able to come in here and work the
Speaker 14: way he does big things coming.
Speaker 7: From Rashauna said that he wants to put up fifteen
Speaker 7: hundred this year. Utah has never had a quarterback that's
Speaker 7: rush for one thousand yards. Is that a goal you're
Speaker 7: looking at?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, I just I played a win,
Speaker 16: and you know, if it happens to me running that ball,
Speaker 16: you know, I'm gonna do it as the best for
Speaker 16: my team. So if that comes with it, and that's
Speaker 16: nice to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you go. Devin Dampier QB one
Speaker 1: for the University of Utah.
Speaker 2: As we discussed a little bit earlier, Utah breaking in
Speaker 2: a new quarterback this year. BYU breaking in a new
Speaker 2: quarterback this year, it appears they've landed on bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 2: According to Taron Roderick today during BYU practice, bear Bachmeyer
Speaker 2: took the majority of the reps with the ones, with
Speaker 2: McKay Hillstead grabbing a little bit as well. But seven
Speaker 2: of the top ten teams in the AP Top twenty
Speaker 2: five are breaking in new quarterbacks this year. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of a reality now and has been for a while.
Speaker 2: That transfers kind of rude the day.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Good stuff from Devin today.
Speaker 2: Final one that will play on this Tuesday of the show.
Speaker 2: New captain for the Utah Youth Tiers, Jared, Come.
Speaker 7: Well, Jared, there's a lot of talk about this offensive line.
Speaker 7: Have you kind of lived up to expectations so far
Speaker 7: in camp? Yeah?
Speaker 17: I mean we're really flattered for all the talk, all
Speaker 17: the positive talk, but in reality, our attitude as an
Speaker 17: old line is that we haven't proved anything. I mean
Speaker 17: this season, I hating started pre season accolades in reality
Speaker 17: don't mean anything. No one's gonna remember those. So our goal,
Speaker 17: I mean, our our mentality, our attitude is that we
Speaker 17: haven't proved anything. We got a lot to come up
Speaker 17: and prove this year, and so we are working every
Speaker 17: single day to be able to put this in a
Speaker 17: position to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: Jaren, what does it mean to you to be a captain?
Speaker 17: It is the biggest honor that, honestly I can think of.
Speaker 17: I mean, I'm I'm I'm so fortunate. I would say
Speaker 17: so fortunate that my teammates you know see me, you know,
Speaker 17: see me as a as a guy who's essentially able
Speaker 17: to fulfill that role as a captain. And so I'm
Speaker 17: so honored that to be to be put in this position,
Speaker 17: and so I will do everything I can to earn
Speaker 17: it every single day.
Speaker 9: Time.
Speaker 14: It's different about this team or what's kind of the
Speaker 14: makeup of this team as compared to maybe years past.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean we have had a team meeting kind
Speaker 17: of about this we I mean, I think it's just
Speaker 17: over fifty percent of this team is brand new. So
Speaker 17: there's a lot of new guys and that's something that
Speaker 17: you know, me being here sometime, this is something that's
Speaker 17: kind of new. But one thing I do love is
Speaker 17: that everyone's starting to buy in or I mean all
Speaker 17: the all the new guys, the older guys I think
Speaker 17: are really helping kind of re establish what our standard
Speaker 17: is every single day in practice, in our workouts, and
Speaker 17: I think the new guys are really starting to buy
Speaker 17: in and so and we're really coming together. I'm really excited.
Speaker 17: I'm so excited for this team. And then I'm so yeah,
Speaker 17: I'm just excited for.
Speaker 7: It not being into any of the preseason stuff. I
Speaker 7: guess you're gonna take it as a slight to you
Speaker 7: guys were not in the preseason Top twenty five EP
Speaker 7: was just released today. There's like four big twelve teams
Speaker 7: that are Do you feel that that's this mentality of
Speaker 7: this group is something to prove?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely, we got something to prove. I mean, you
Speaker 17: guys know last year is obviously not the standard, and
Speaker 17: so it's not being top twenty five. I mean that's
Speaker 17: you know, that's not outside of expectations because of that.
Speaker 17: So yeah, we got so much to prove. And that's
Speaker 17: that's the other two we have, is that we we
Speaker 17: gotta come out and improve everything that we believe that
Speaker 17: we are.
Speaker 1: Karen Temistry with Devin Damn here.
Speaker 17: Oh it's been it's been growing really well.
Speaker 1: I forging love to do.
Speaker 17: He's a outstanding, not only out staying quarterback, he's now
Speaker 17: staying a teammate. I mean, I think he'd be okay
Speaker 17: if I said he's taking us out to eat. I
Speaker 17: don't even know how many times as an entire offensive line.
Speaker 17: So he's he's a he's a team guy, you know,
Speaker 17: he's a he's a guy that's really here with the boy,
Speaker 17: you know, for the boys. And he's an awesome addition
Speaker 17: to the locker room, not only locker room in the
Speaker 17: offense as well. So it is, but it is, but
Speaker 17: he is as he's been really awesome with us. So
Speaker 17: that's that's gonna help us. Just give that a little half,
Speaker 17: that's a little half a second longer protection, you know.
Speaker 17: Knowing that, knowing that our guy behind us really takes
Speaker 17: care of us, We're gonna try to get there for him.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Jared Cump. He was just
Speaker 1: named a captain for the Utes.
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Speaker 2: to two four dish. We talk some NFL with one
Speaker 2: of our favorites, are rising star who's grown up right
Speaker 2: in front of our eyes from ESPN, the great Benjamin
Speaker 2: Solac on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Mister Solac, how are you, sir, I'm doing well. I'm
Speaker 1: doing well.
Speaker 2: So Jordan Love played his college ball Utah State. We
Speaker 2: all kind of cheer from here.
Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna have a little procedure on his
Speaker 1: non throwing hand.
Speaker 2: Ben what's your understanding of the nature of this injury
Speaker 2: and how long do you think he'll be out?
Speaker 8: He should be ready for week one. Non throwing hands
Speaker 8: kind of like, hey, you know, fix it up, stitch
Speaker 8: it up, put some dirt on it, you know, put
Speaker 8: a little protective shield on it. Let's go. If anything,
Speaker 8: you take out those couple of plays in the playbook
Speaker 8: where you hand the ball off with your left hand
Speaker 8: right some of the funky backfield stuff but other than that,
Speaker 8: you'll largely expect them to go ahead and play invite
Speaker 8: effect ball. Security in the pocket a little bit, right,
Speaker 8: somebody swipes at your hand and then grip on the
Speaker 8: left hand isn't a strong But when it comes to
Speaker 8: the non throwing hand, we expect you back out there now.
Speaker 8: Missing time in camps bigger deal for a younger player
Speaker 8: than a veteran, of course. But you know, it hasn't
Speaker 8: been the best preseason for Love. He's a little bit
Speaker 8: all over the place in the first game. They're obviously
Speaker 8: trying to find a second level to that offense, which
Speaker 8: has been a good offensive times a great offense, but
Speaker 8: not necessarily the juggernaut they were hoping. And they have
Speaker 8: a young wide receiver there, Matthew Golden, for whom you'd
Speaker 8: like to get as many reps as possible. We just
Speaker 8: start a quarterback in your new first round receiver. So
Speaker 8: it's not significant, but as with all things, it's not insignificant.
Speaker 8: It's an injury to a franchise quarterback is on the
Speaker 8: bay atention too.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say after sitting behind Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers for a few years, once Jordan got that job,
Speaker 2: it's been good, maybe sometimes very good. What has to
Speaker 2: happen for him to take that next step and actually
Speaker 2: have some sustained success come, you know, playoff time, maybe
Speaker 2: win a couple of playoff games.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were one and five against their division, lost
Speaker 8: both of the Vikings, lost both the Lions, and split
Speaker 8: with the Bears. The game they won against the Bears,
Speaker 8: if you recall, was a game winning block field goal too,
Speaker 8: so it wasn't like that was open and shut. They
Speaker 8: also lost to Philadelphia in the season opener and then
Speaker 8: lost them again in the postseason. So when it came
Speaker 8: to playing NFC contenders last season, they really did' show
Speaker 8: up to the plate, right oh and two against the Eagles,
Speaker 8: I and two against the Vikings and oh and two
Speaker 8: against the Lions. So you need to be able to
Speaker 8: elevate in those particular high leverage situations. You see a
Speaker 8: lot of turnovers from Jordan Love against top opponents. He
Speaker 8: tends to play a little bit loose, a little bit
Speaker 8: aggressive when he feels like he needs to make plays
Speaker 8: in order to win. And I also think you see
Speaker 8: the Packers lack of stars in those games.
Speaker 14: Right.
Speaker 8: They bring in Josh Jacobs, they draft and developed Jayden
Speaker 8: red and all these excellent offensive linemen. On the defensive
Speaker 8: side of the ball, it's Rashaun Garry, and it's Lucas
Speaker 8: van Nets, it's Kenny Clark. Edrick Cooper was great for
Speaker 8: them as a rookie. They bring in Zaviray McKinnon free agency,
Speaker 8: and everybody I've named here. Spence is a good to
Speaker 8: great player. But when it comes to field tipping, franchise
Speaker 8: changing players, right, those guys who really really cause matchup
Speaker 8: problems for you against those top opponents. There is no
Speaker 8: Justin Jefferson on this team. There is no a j
Speaker 8: Brown or take one Barkie on this team. There is
Speaker 8: no Aiden Hudginson or Brian Branch Jamier Gibbs on this team.
Speaker 8: The other NFC contenders kind of have a lot. The
Speaker 8: Packers out gunned in terms of those elite players, and
Speaker 8: so there's certainly stuff Loves can do in terms of
Speaker 8: cutting down on the turnovers. But I think it's going
Speaker 8: to be a team effort. I think it's got to
Speaker 8: be they're better coach, and they're better prepared against these
Speaker 8: top opponents, and it's got to be a front office
Speaker 8: effort where they bring in some of those blue chip
Speaker 8: players you need to really tip the scales against playoff contenders.
Speaker 2: Let's stick with quarterbacks, Let's stick with local storylines, and
Speaker 2: let's talk Jackson Dart with his first preseason experience in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 1: There looks good.
Speaker 2: I mean, he had a touchdown pass and you know,
Speaker 2: we watched him grow up around here before he left
Speaker 2: for college. We know that Brian dave ballas said Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: will be their starter. But what did you make of
Speaker 2: the first opportunity we had to see Jackson play a
Speaker 2: little pro football? And what sort of chance does he
Speaker 2: have to maybe at some point actually get on the
Speaker 2: field for the Giants.
Speaker 8: I strongly expect we'll see him start at some point
Speaker 8: this season. Both head coach Brian Dabele and general manager
Speaker 8: Joe Shane we're told pretty explicitly, I mean, ownership is
Speaker 8: clear about this. In presconfaence at the end of the year,
Speaker 8: they were told, listen, you know, we need to see
Speaker 8: substantial improvement in this season, this twenty twenty five season,
Speaker 8: or it's going to be a new guy in charge
Speaker 8: of both the front office and the coaching staff. And
Speaker 8: so when that's the case, and you have a rookie
Speaker 8: first round pick quarterback burning a hole in your pocket,
Speaker 8: you tend to get that guy reps because at the
Speaker 8: end of the season you want to be able to
Speaker 8: point his improvement point in his developmental art and say,
Speaker 8: see if you keep us for another year. Look, you
Speaker 8: know we've got this young guy where we're building around him.
Speaker 8: You know there's there's often am here, there's a rosy future.
Speaker 8: So I strongly expect to see Dart play. And I
Speaker 8: think you're very happy with what you saw in that
Speaker 8: first preseason game in terms of some of the arm talent,
Speaker 8: making the throw down the field, terms of the movement skills,
Speaker 8: scrambling around back there. They called a QB draw for him.
Speaker 8: I was impressed by how Brian Gable called the offense
Speaker 8: around him right RPO heavy. Like I said, the quarterback
Speaker 8: draw a lot of shot opportunities, starts coming from a
Speaker 8: very very very college offense. So you don't want to
Speaker 8: give him five in the concept full field progression set
Speaker 8: your protection. You ask to a little bit more slate
Speaker 8: to him slowly. So I thought Dabel had a good
Speaker 8: understanding of what to give Dart. He would jump me
Speaker 8: back there. He ran himself into some pressures. He was
Speaker 8: late to some throws. That's what you expect from orthew
Speaker 8: quarterback in his first preseason start. So I think I
Speaker 8: think you checked the box for you. I think Gable
Speaker 8: has a good understanding about'll make dart work. And then
Speaker 8: it becomes a question of just how long can Russell
Speaker 8: Wilson hold off Jackson Darty. We see him in week six,
Speaker 8: Week ten, week twelve, or somewhere in between.
Speaker 2: Over the course of the past well almost six years
Speaker 2: now you've been coming on this show, We've often talked
Speaker 2: about Zach Wilson because he played his college ball at
Speaker 2: BYU and I'm a Jets fan and watched him struggle
Speaker 2: mightily to acclimate to the NFL. And whether it's, you know,
Speaker 2: it's the chicken or the egg thing. Is that a
Speaker 2: Zach problem? Is it a Jet problem? It's probably a
Speaker 2: bit of both. But he does have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: continue his pro football journey in Miami as potentially to
Speaker 2: his backup.
Speaker 1: Do you think he'll get that job?
Speaker 2: And what did you make of the truncated space we
Speaker 2: saw from him preseason Week one?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm almost certain he'll get that job. Right now,
Speaker 8: KiB three for them is Queen Yours out of Texas
Speaker 8: on his big time college quarterback, but a late round
Speaker 8: pick who really is just struggle to translate to the
Speaker 8: NFL level. So A strongly except that Zach will be
Speaker 8: the KB two there in Miami, which has historically been
Speaker 8: a good job at a not so good job. It's
Speaker 8: been a good job because to him is his time
Speaker 8: to get an opportunity to play. It's been an also
Speaker 8: good job because the Dolphins offense is very built for
Speaker 8: Tua and a lot of times when these backups go
Speaker 8: in it just looks way worse than it did when
Speaker 8: Too was at the helmps of how sculpted it is
Speaker 8: his style. Zach, I thought against the Bears back ups
Speaker 8: there in preseason, they looked great, and I think there
Speaker 8: were some bad sacks that he took. He almost threw
Speaker 8: a pick sext he just dropped. Otherwise it was going
Speaker 8: to the house. Like I said, it's not an ideal
Speaker 8: offense for quarterbacks who don't play exactly like two of does.
Speaker 8: You have to process for the fast, make really really
Speaker 8: quick decisions. He's very accurate with the football and it's
Speaker 8: not something that Zach is typically done over his pro career.
Speaker 8: Now it'll look different if Zach has to play four
Speaker 8: games in the regular seas think it is too and
Speaker 8: down with an injury, versus, hey, we're just running our
Speaker 8: base offense in the preseason to evaluate our wide receiver
Speaker 8: four and our offensive tackle three and are running back
Speaker 8: too along with Zach Wilson. So he'll be the backup there.
Speaker 8: I don't know how well he'll he'll he'll perform if
Speaker 8: he's forced to play, because just typically we've not seen
Speaker 8: backups do well in that Miami system. But we'll get
Speaker 8: there when we get there. If and went to him
Speaker 8: as his time.
Speaker 2: Should or Sanders gets the start in the first game
Speaker 2: for the Browns in the preseason, they have some injuries
Speaker 2: in that quarterback room. They brought in former ti Or Huntley,
Speaker 2: who we saw for a moment a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and look, Shador is going to have a very bright
Speaker 2: spotlight on him for a number of different reasons that
Speaker 2: we all understand. Your takeaways week one with Shador you know,
Speaker 2: performing I think very well, and whether or not you
Speaker 2: think he actually gets that job.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I think that the first box you wanted
Speaker 8: to check was, Hey, we thought this cat was going
Speaker 8: to be a muster earlier pick. He goes in round five,
Speaker 8: and a lot of the reporting around that was how
Speaker 8: he handled the pre draft process and you know, kind
Speaker 8: of a side show that comes with him and his
Speaker 8: pops and okay, well, you know, how much do we
Speaker 8: want that in our building relative to his talent level.
Speaker 8: So when he goes to play the first preseason game,
Speaker 8: you know, okay, he walks in with the kind of
Speaker 8: you know, the big entrance with the moment the lights
Speaker 8: are on, the ball snapped it all that to the side.
Speaker 8: It's just got the talent that we thought he was.
Speaker 8: He absolutely is. He pace round picks and walk out
Speaker 8: at quarterback looked like they belong the way that Sanders did. Right,
Speaker 8: We have a process and made difficult throws, accurate throws
Speaker 8: into tight windows, reset in the pocket. The skills that
Speaker 8: he had in Colorado are still there. This is a
Speaker 8: guy who is clearly more talented than the average QWP
Speaker 8: four on a roster, and then the average fifth round pick.
Speaker 8: The real question is if he's so much more talented
Speaker 8: than Dylan Gabriel, who is the Brown's third round pick
Speaker 8: out of Oregon. Is he's so clearly better than him,
Speaker 8: that he's going to jump him on the depth chart,
Speaker 8: become the developmental quarterbacks of the Browns this season, be
Speaker 8: the rookie that gets the start and gets the snaps
Speaker 8: if and when they're bad, if and when Joe Flacco
Speaker 8: gets hurt, so on and so forth, because I'm pretty
Speaker 8: positive they're gonna start Joe Flacco at least the beginning
Speaker 8: of the season that we can't answer. We can't answer
Speaker 8: the Gabriel question yet because it aint the Gabriel fight
Speaker 8: right when he had he had the hamsterring. Obviously, I
Speaker 8: saw him in training camp and I was there. Other
Speaker 8: people have seen him and it's not he's not really
Speaker 8: lighting it up in camp shit, or it's not really
Speaker 8: lighting it up in camp. So I don't think sure
Speaker 8: Door has yet distanced himself such that he's clearly the
Speaker 8: young guy in line, because we should expect some young
Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the Browns to get a substantial number of
Speaker 8: starts this season. I don't know if Sanders has made
Speaker 8: that gap up yet, But it's August twelfth, and he's
Speaker 8: gonna make, you know, fifty three minut cutdowns to come.
Speaker 8: All the reporting that they're going to keep four quarterbacks,
Speaker 8: so we should stay on the roster, and then it
Speaker 8: becomes a matter of stacking days, stacking good preseason performances,
Speaker 8: and continuing to potentially outperform Gabriel and move ahead of
Speaker 8: him in that depth start. And so this was a
Speaker 8: good first step, but two and a half quarters of
Speaker 8: solid ball against the Carolina Panthers backup does not a
Speaker 8: depth chart reshuffle, right. I have to remember this is
Speaker 8: a process gonna happen over time.
Speaker 1: A couple of QB battles.
Speaker 2: We saw Anthony richardson for a moment before he left
Speaker 2: with a finger injury, and Daniel Jones came.
Speaker 1: On, and you know, he looks like Daniel Jones if
Speaker 1: you've watched.
Speaker 2: Them play before. There are moments where you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe be can figure it out. And then in the
Speaker 2: long run, I'm not sure that he's a long term
Speaker 2: answer for anybody. But who do you think it's that
Speaker 2: job with the Colts.
Speaker 8: Man, I don't know. It's I think that they're confident
Speaker 8: that they can win nine games at Daniel Jones a quarterback,
Speaker 8: and deservedly so. Daniel Jones is as an average quarterback
Speaker 8: with a decently high floor and run the RPO offense.
Speaker 8: He ran for Gardner Minshew a couple of years ago,
Speaker 8: and you have such a good cadrip weapons there, Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 8: the rookie tight end, Tyler war and besides the wide receivers, right,
Speaker 8: Josh Downs and Michael Pittman, Alex Pearce, ad and my Mitchell.
Speaker 8: Let's just kind of let this thing plug a chug
Speaker 8: and we'll go five hundred. I think that they're confident
Speaker 8: they can do that with Jones. So the question becomes
Speaker 8: if we can do better with Anthony and Richardson? What
Speaker 8: does that look like? Does that look like starting him
Speaker 8: week one, living with them ups and downs, when with
Speaker 8: some bumps and bruises, giving him the whole runway? Does
Speaker 8: that look like starting out with Daniel Jones, giving him
Speaker 8: a few weeks and then turning to Richardson and say
Speaker 8: you're you're our guy, You're our salvation, like you're gonna
Speaker 8: come and elevate this offense. Like you know, he sees
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones be not turnover prone, be safe with the
Speaker 8: football for five six weeks and say, okay, just do that,
Speaker 8: but give us three spectacular runs on third down and
Speaker 8: we'll be fine. A lot of it depends on how
Speaker 8: they want to modulate richardson how they want to manage
Speaker 8: the individual, which has been the narrative around him since
Speaker 8: he was there right where they started him early. They
Speaker 8: yanked him for you know, sat up for Sam Ellinger
Speaker 8: and yanked him for Joe Wacko like this, that and
Speaker 8: the other thing. And so if I had to guess,
Speaker 8: I would say they start Daniel Jones a week one.
Speaker 8: But that's fifty five to forty five. I mean that
Speaker 8: really is I don't think they know. I don't think
Speaker 8: anybody else knows.
Speaker 1: Have we reached any sort of level.
Speaker 2: Sean McVay was pretty honest and forthcoming about his creeping
Speaker 2: concern with Matt Stafford's back. He didn't practice today. I
Speaker 2: think McVeigh was expecting him to be ready to play.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: Look, it's not like this is a rookie that needs reps.
Speaker 1: This is a Super Bowl winning quarterback we all know about.
Speaker 2: But if you're a RAMS fan, at what point are
Speaker 2: you concerned about your starting quarterback?
Speaker 10: Right now?
Speaker 8: If not before?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 8: You know we I don't need to tell you about
Speaker 8: thirty seven year old in bats, right. I mean, like
Speaker 8: this is like everybody I've ever met who termed thirty
Speaker 8: five in my life has been like, man, I can't
Speaker 8: bend over anymore, you know, like my back goes, I
Speaker 8: turn around, I moved too quickly. I've got a crick
Speaker 8: that doesn't go away for two weeks. You know this
Speaker 8: is there are injuries that players can go through from
Speaker 8: a nagging perspective that don't really hassle me too much. Right,
Speaker 8: If a pocket quarterback at thirty seven year old years
Speaker 8: old has a groin that just really doesn't move me
Speaker 8: because he's not going to be exploding through lateral cuts anyway, right,
Speaker 8: so what do we care? But if you've got a
Speaker 8: back or a foot and then escape from quarterback of
Speaker 8: throwing shoulder, you can't really grit through that because the
Speaker 8: moment you get hit on the back, like you just
Speaker 8: can't rotate, and now you can't deliver the football for me.
Speaker 8: And so when it was he's had a back injury
Speaker 8: before and we're being very careful during camp, I was
Speaker 8: buying it. I was like, Okay, that's also how I
Speaker 8: would be handling my thirty seven year old quarterback who's
Speaker 8: been dealing with back injuries for years now. Right, Stafford
Speaker 8: just takes some many shots that has been editioned out
Speaker 8: for a while once it became he had an epidural.
Speaker 8: He's going to practice on Monday. Oh no, he's not
Speaker 8: practicing on Monday. And he's in this weird trailer getting
Speaker 8: like radiation therapy that the moment it's like weird third
Speaker 8: party alternative medicine. That's where like the alarm belts really
Speaker 8: start going off for me. And that's where we're at
Speaker 8: now with Stafford. And so I don't know with any
Speaker 8: confidence if he'll be near one hundred percent at any
Speaker 8: point this season, whether he plays, doesn't play, six ice pack,
Speaker 8: whatever ends up being, there's still some worlds where he
Speaker 8: gets it out. See Stafford. He's a tough sun of
Speaker 8: a gun. But yeah, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 2: So we saw Little Joe Burrow week one preseason and
Speaker 2: he hit connected with Jamar a few times, and he
Speaker 2: himself has talked about how good he feels, how healthy
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: Can Cincinnati stop anybody?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you look at the odds
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl, Cincinnati is down with the
Speaker 2: Commanders at eighteen to one, so it's not impossible. And
Speaker 2: we know offensively who they are, what they can do,
Speaker 2: but defensively with their questions and we saw it again.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, it's only the preseason, but I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it feels like they're wasting a prime Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow is among the best quarterbacks and all
Speaker 2: the pro footballers you know.
Speaker 1: Do the Bengals have the defense this year to be
Speaker 1: taken seriously?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm surprised that of all the Utah guys you're
Speaker 8: asking me about asking me about Tanner McKee. I thought,
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure he's the use of high school product
Speaker 8: and memories. There's I love me Old Tanner McKee is
Speaker 8: been good basket the Degal for a while and he
Speaker 8: shredded the Bengals in the preseason. If the Bengals defense
Speaker 8: can stop anybody, I tell you they're better suited on
Speaker 8: offense this year for a Super Bowl run than they've
Speaker 8: ever been because they're better running the football now they've been.
Speaker 8: They have a back in Chase Brown who presents a
Speaker 8: dynamic ops out of the backfield the way they haven't previously.
Speaker 8: They do more twelve personnel stuff now too tight ends,
Speaker 8: so they don't just have to live on Joe Burrow goballs.
Speaker 8: They're a lot deeper, more variable on Offense's makes them
Speaker 8: all the more dangerous. They are so so so ready
Speaker 8: on that side of the ball, and then on the
Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball, it's a massive question mark.
Speaker 8: A common model that we see work in NFL postseasons
Speaker 8: is top five offense plus league average defense. It's harder
Speaker 8: to do it the other way, goes through the postseason
Speaker 8: with average offense, top five defense, because the league is
Speaker 8: just skewed towards offense. Even if you have a top
Speaker 8: five defense, you have a good chance of giving up
Speaker 8: to thirty during some playoff games. You just run into
Speaker 8: a really great unit and then you can't catch those
Speaker 8: texts when you have the ball. And so you think
Speaker 8: about the twenty twenty one Rams to beat the Bengals
Speaker 8: in the postseason. You think about even some of these
Speaker 8: recent Chiefs teams. You're seeing a top five offense and
Speaker 8: then an average defense. Washington last year, making it gains
Speaker 8: the Eagles Anton Championship game with the top offense and
Speaker 8: then an average defense, and so the Bengals. You don't
Speaker 8: need to stop everybody, You just need to not be
Speaker 8: the twenty eighth best defense. You need to get to
Speaker 8: the twentieth. You need to get to the eighteenth. And
Speaker 8: they've got a ton of young players, and they made
Speaker 8: a defensive coordinator change, and they're kind of just you know,
Speaker 8: snapping the joker pool stick in half, throwing it into
Speaker 8: the middle of their safety room, their cornerback room, their
Speaker 8: defensive tackle room, and saying, listen, if you make plays
Speaker 8: for us, you will get the reps, you will get
Speaker 8: the snaps. It is up for grabs right now. So
Speaker 8: it's in their range of outcomes that they have a
Speaker 8: good enough defense. It's not in the rage of outs
Speaker 8: their top ten, but it's in their range of outcomes.
Speaker 8: They have a good enough defense make a run, but
Speaker 8: they got to get lucky on a couple of breaks.
Speaker 8: They need some young players to contribute. DJ Turner, Dat Hill,
Speaker 8: Chris Jenkets, Jordan Battle, a lot of important young players
Speaker 8: for them. So I'm hoping. I really want to see it,
Speaker 8: but I'll believe it when I see it. An not
Speaker 8: a moment sooner.
Speaker 2: Vegas tells us the Super Bowl winner will likely come
Speaker 2: from the pool of the Eagles, the Ravens, the Bills,
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. Do you agree that those are the
Speaker 2: four teams that we all should be honed in on.
Speaker 2: And is there any other team outside of the top
Speaker 2: four you would add to that group?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would take that four over the field for sure.
Speaker 8: And I think that a big part of the reason
Speaker 8: why is because it's just the Ravens and the Bills
Speaker 8: are so desperate for it. There's such an intensity in
Speaker 8: those two buildings right now to find a weakness in
Speaker 8: the Chiefs to be able to get over the hump
Speaker 8: there in the AFC. So there's an intensity there. And
Speaker 8: then obviously, but the Chiefs, you have the championship pedigree,
Speaker 8: right we woy not be surprised if they show it
Speaker 8: up for that big game. Again, that's kind of what
Speaker 8: they've been doing the last few years. And so I
Speaker 8: would take that group over the field. If I'm introducing
Speaker 8: a fifth team, the Bengals are pretty high up on
Speaker 8: that list. I would say the Houston Texans are one
Speaker 8: that that's higher on that list for me meant a
Speaker 8: lot of other people. And I know I'm only mentioning
Speaker 8: AFC teams here right now, but the Texans have a
Speaker 8: good shot of having just simply doug best defense in football,
Speaker 8: and then they have the Bengals. Thing on the other
Speaker 8: side of the ball, where we have a big coordinator change,
Speaker 8: we have a lot of young players. Can we take
Speaker 8: a massive year one leap right under this new coach.
Speaker 8: And in the case of the Texans, it's not that oh,
Speaker 8: can they be an average unit? We saw this with
Speaker 8: a top ten unit two years ago and then they
Speaker 8: had huge offensive line problems to the coordinator problems. They
Speaker 8: made a change. And so if Houston Brooks ran on
Speaker 8: our offense, we'll have the eighth best offense and the
Speaker 8: number one defense. That's gonna be a scary group. So
Speaker 8: Houston and Cincinnati are two teams out put very close.
Speaker 8: The NFC is tough. I tell you, I was in
Speaker 8: on the Buccaneers before the Tristan Wurfs injury. I want
Speaker 8: it to be there on the Lions. But two new coordinators,
Speaker 8: two new starters in tier offensive line, that's a little
Speaker 8: far for me. I would have, you know, experimented with
Speaker 8: the Rams if not for the Stafford injury. Like the
Speaker 8: non Eagles, NFC teams are not having the best augusts
Speaker 8: right now, and that makes it tough to find the
Speaker 8: team from that conference.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I know, I just want to ask you
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: You know, they have an event last night, you know,
Speaker 2: for their docu series that's coming out, and Jerry Jones
Speaker 2: is asked about the Micah Parson stuff, and he's asked
Speaker 2: about all the chaos the team to surround that organization
Speaker 2: all year long, and he essentially leaned into it by
Speaker 2: saying like we're soap opera and if nobody's talking about us,
Speaker 2: I'll make sure we do something to get attention. It
Speaker 2: just every time he opens his mouth it feels so
Speaker 2: tone deaf, yet not surprising because this is who he
Speaker 2: is and this is who they are. So what do
Speaker 2: you make of where we find ourselves with Dallas?
Speaker 8: I thought there was a really wonderful piece on ESPN
Speaker 8: today that Bill barn Will, my colleague, wrote about how
Speaker 8: the conservative estimate for how much money the Cowboys have
Speaker 8: cost themselves in cap space by waiting on the back
Speaker 8: Breas that deal, waiting on the CD LAMB deal, waiting
Speaker 8: on the Michael Parsons deal, the conservative estimate is eighty
Speaker 8: four million dollars. So if for Jerry getting to see
Speaker 8: the Cowboys on Get Up at nine o' five is
Speaker 8: worth eighty four million dollars than Listen. He's a much
Speaker 8: more successful business man than me. He probably knows something
Speaker 8: I don't know. All the power to him. For me,
Speaker 8: I would be taking eighty four million dollars in cash stakes.
Speaker 8: I'd be going get myself a run stuff in defensive tackle,
Speaker 8: get myself with a linebacker depth. I began a better
Speaker 8: outside corner, and I was trying to win a championship.
Speaker 8: But I like the rings. I think Jerry liked the money.
Speaker 8: I think you know, he and I are kind of
Speaker 8: rolling the boat in different directions, And so I would
Speaker 8: encourage everybody who doesn't understand the cowboys and why kind
Speaker 8: of media wize we all get so so toots about
Speaker 8: this to go read the Barnlil piece, like I said,
Speaker 8: I thought was lovely. In the case of Michael Parsons, specifically,
Speaker 8: Jerry's doing a similar song and dance the what he
Speaker 8: did with Lamb WHI he did with Dak. I think
Speaker 8: what makes this different in terms of delaying this contract,
Speaker 8: letting it go, and Mike are requesting a trade and
Speaker 8: this on the other thing is that Parsons has always
Speaker 8: marched more to the beat of his own drum than
Speaker 8: Dak and Seed right Seed, He's always been like a
Speaker 8: I just want to catch the football. I want to
Speaker 8: put a bunch of stats. Let's win some games.
Speaker 13: Let's go.
Speaker 8: Dak has always been a shrewd businessman who's done his
Speaker 8: job well there in Dallas and has used his you know,
Speaker 8: big soapboxes the Cowboys franchise quarterback to help make more
Speaker 8: money for himself. Like those guys kind of are are
Speaker 8: more typical bills and approaches for star players. Micah Man Like,
Speaker 8: when Micah says I've done being a Dallas cowboy, I
Speaker 8: don't think it's true. I said, ninety five percent chance
Speaker 8: he till a cowboy, but it's not. You know, he's
Speaker 8: a good, healthy one percent chance that he takes that
Speaker 8: very seriously and he goes the distance with that because Micah,
Speaker 8: just like I said, has always been a little bit
Speaker 8: more to the beat of his own drum, and so
Speaker 8: most like the outcome. It's September second, we all get
Speaker 8: a buzz on our phone. Michael Parsons has been signed
Speaker 8: for forty two million dollars per years, the high paid
Speaker 8: non quarterback in NFL history, and everything. Conky Dory Dallas
Speaker 8: goes and wins their ten games this season, but who knows,
Speaker 8: maybe it does get a little bit frisky and we
Speaker 8: all have more to write, abound and talk about come September.
Speaker 2: A couple of minutes left, Ben, before I set you loose,
Speaker 2: someone to ask you about a couple of teams, as
Speaker 2: I do every time you join us that have the
Speaker 2: most interest in our region. As a result of the
Speaker 2: move to Vegas, the Raiders are the closest team in
Speaker 2: proximity to us here in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: Year one for Pete Carroll, it's a new everything there.
Speaker 2: Will they at least maybe represent some sort of hope
Speaker 2: for long suffering Raiders fans.
Speaker 8: I think they will. I think you'll have to squint
Speaker 8: a little bit, because just from a depth chart perspective,
Speaker 8: right now, the Raiders' offensive line and then pretty much
Speaker 8: all three levels of the defense are just not where
Speaker 8: you want to be to consistently produce wins. They're going
Speaker 8: to lose games because they're under too much pressure right
Speaker 8: now on the front, especially along the interior. They're gonna
Speaker 8: lose games because even though the offense is putting points
Speaker 8: of the defense and just getting outscored.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 8: The Christian Wilkins injury and subsequent release is such a
Speaker 8: big one. They lost over five thousand snaps from the
Speaker 8: defense last year into this year. And that doesn't even
Speaker 8: include Marcus Aps, who was the twenty twenty three starter
Speaker 8: who got hurt in twenty twenty four. Mary got the building,
Speaker 8: Robert Saline out the building, Calebon chasing out the building,
Speaker 8: Nate Hans out the building, Jack Jones up the building.
Speaker 8: They just lost so many dudes from that defensive jet chart,
Speaker 8: and so it's going to be rough. There's going to
Speaker 8: be frustrating losses because they just don't have the personnel
Speaker 8: to stop a certain receiver, a certain running back, so
Speaker 8: on and so forth. But I think the offense is
Speaker 8: going to look sick with Chip Kelly and you're going
Speaker 8: to do a bunch of cool stuff. G you know,
Speaker 8: is a very solid starting NFL quarterback, good thirteenth best
Speaker 8: quarterback in football. And they have and brought Bowers, Ashton Genty,
Speaker 8: Jakobe Meyers, Jack Besh, a really good young cadre of weapons.
Speaker 8: It's going to allow them to outscore some opponents and
Speaker 8: win some big, exciting games. I think it's going to
Speaker 8: be a promising looking year one, even if it ends
Speaker 8: with the seven and.
Speaker 2: Ten record last one. Year two BONICKX Year two Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos another team that is kind of in the
Speaker 2: middle as it pertains to the Vegas odds.
Speaker 1: Nine and a half is the over under for wins.
Speaker 2: So it feels like there's a lot of momentum an
Speaker 2: optimism for what Denver can be if they kind of
Speaker 2: continue on this scope.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of former utes on that roster.
Speaker 1: What do you think this year looks like for the Broncos.
Speaker 8: It's going to be. They're one of the hardest teams
Speaker 8: to figure out. For one, you have advanced Joseph defense
Speaker 8: that's not only returning many starters but also added in
Speaker 8: free agency Calenohufon and Dreg green Law added in NIFL
Speaker 8: Draft today. There and right, this is one of the
Speaker 8: best defense in the league that added dudes. But if
Speaker 8: you go and you look at the history of defenses,
Speaker 8: it's actually a lot harder to repeat two top five
Speaker 8: seasons in a row than you would expect, even when
Speaker 8: you return all the personnel. Advanced Joseph's defenses have historically
Speaker 8: been some of the worst perpetrators of high variants.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: The two years previous to last season when they were excellent,
Speaker 8: they were like bottom ten in the league, you know,
Speaker 8: and again with a lot of the similar personnel, because
Speaker 8: he plays a very high risk, high rewards style. So
Speaker 8: I want to trust the defense, and on paper I do,
Speaker 8: but the reality of defense in the NFL is that
Speaker 8: you play a couple more starting quarterbacks, you have a
Speaker 8: couple more injuries, and you can go from five to
Speaker 8: twenty fifth and real stink. So I have questions on
Speaker 8: the defense, and then offensively, this team improved dramatically over
Speaker 8: the course of last season by minimizing bo Nix's ask.
Speaker 8: Right in the first eight weeks of the season, I
Speaker 8: haven't and pushed the ball more down the field, go
Speaker 8: through progressions in the pocket. They come back second half
Speaker 8: of the season, a lot of throws behind the line
Speaker 8: of scrimmage, a lot of swing, a lot of screens,
Speaker 8: a lot of sprintouts. And some of that was because
Speaker 8: they needed to replace the running game. Running game was
Speaker 8: no good. They had a bad backfield, but some of
Speaker 8: that was because Bow as a rookie, was just had
Speaker 8: a little bit too much on his plate and they
Speaker 8: need to reduce him and kind of become a little
Speaker 8: bit more of a RPO checkdown screen constraint play sort
Speaker 8: of an offense. In year two, they need more from Bow,
Speaker 8: but they also had more weapons right rookie running back R. J. Harvey,
Speaker 8: Rooky had receiver Pat Bryant, such that those screens, those
Speaker 8: checkdowns are even all the more dangerous. And so I believe,
Speaker 8: but I have question marks. They're a team that has
Speaker 8: a very wide range of outcomes. Approaching twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Ben, thanks man for the time, great time of year.
Speaker 2: Pro Football's back. Have a great week and we'll chat too.
Speaker 8: Appreciate you, spence to take care the great.
Speaker 2: Ben Solac from ESPN at Benjamin Solac on social is
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Speaker 2: twelve days is Max Brown. On a Tuesday afternoon, Max,
Speaker 2: I apologize about misbehaving with the clock.
Speaker 1: How are you, buddy, No, it's all good.
Speaker 8: It's all good.
Speaker 11: You made up for it with the PAC twelve intro.
Speaker 11: I love for that, can never can never forget.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: But it still is weird. We don't have to relitigate.
Speaker 2: It's still just wild, though. But let's start with what's
Speaker 2: new with you?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 1: What what is what's the college football season and schedule
Speaker 1: going to look like for you this year? Max?
Speaker 8: Yeah, switching up network networks.
Speaker 11: I was at the CW last year calling their full
Speaker 11: ACC package.
Speaker 13: It'll be a similar schedule for me, but now with
Speaker 13: the ACC.
Speaker 11: Network, So I'll have no. I'll be with ESPN, be
Speaker 11: calling games with Chris Cotter over there, and it'll be
Speaker 11: a rotating schedule, so you know, sometimes the one pm kick,
Speaker 11: sometimes the four pm kick, but it'll be a lot
Speaker 11: of East Coast college football these days.
Speaker 1: Good stuff, good stuff. Well out this way we are again.
Speaker 2: I'm shaking my head as I say we're in the
Speaker 2: big twelve foot print because for so long we were
Speaker 2: in the back twelve foot print.
Speaker 1: But it's year two for Utah. Max.
Speaker 2: Let me just ask you, just macro standpoint, take it
Speaker 2: whatever direction you want to take it. What gives you
Speaker 2: the most confidence that year two for Utah will look
Speaker 2: much better than year one in the big twelve?
Speaker 11: Yeah, just the history of what Ale Witningham has been
Speaker 11: at that program, which I know you Utes fans know well,
Speaker 11: but I think nationally sometimes sometimes people forget about that
Speaker 11: of just how obscure and how disappointing last year was
Speaker 11: and how much of a surprise it was. And I
Speaker 11: don't think that'll happen again for Utah. I do think,
Speaker 11: you know, these past couple of years feel like on paper,
Speaker 11: like that was the window if Utah was going to
Speaker 11: get that championship. Whether it was a CFP type of win,
Speaker 11: whether it was a Rose Bowl type of win, might
Speaker 11: get unfortunately, says that window may have passed. But I
Speaker 11: do think in the conference of autonomy these days, in
Speaker 11: the Big Twelve, there's no reason Utah can't be right.
Speaker 13: In the thick of things.
Speaker 11: And I think we were this time last year expecting
Speaker 11: that Utah would be the enforcers in the Big twelve.
Speaker 11: And hey, Big twelve, like, you know, get ready for
Speaker 11: the utes coming to town that obviously didn't come to
Speaker 11: Fruition last year. But I feel confident in a conference
Speaker 11: that doesn't necessarily have physicality across the board, there's no
Speaker 11: reason that can't be Utah's mo and you know, kind
Speaker 11: of sent a message to to the rest of the
Speaker 11: conference still being someone of the new guys in that conference.
Speaker 2: So Devin Dampierre is the new quarterback and it actually
Speaker 2: is a little i would say relieving for the.
Speaker 1: Fan base around here just to know who's going to
Speaker 1: be under center.
Speaker 2: And he arrives in Salt Lake with his offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: from a year ago, now it was New Mexico. Devin
Speaker 2: put up some good numbers last year, a lot with
Speaker 2: his legs. The throw game numbers as coach, we would
Speaker 2: like to say weren't necessarily all that good. But what
Speaker 2: sort of challenge is does a step up in competition
Speaker 2: pos and max. What are you expecting from Devin dan
Speaker 2: Pierre under center for the Utes this year?
Speaker 11: Yeah, right away is considered who with Dan Pierre like
Speaker 11: because he's such a mobile quarterback and his legs being
Speaker 11: a factor like I would have still imagine that's obviously
Speaker 11: going to be a huge part of his game. But
Speaker 11: I do think it's a notch higher in terms of
Speaker 11: the athletes you're getting in the secondary. In the Apple Beat,
Speaker 11: you're getting a linebacker from a throw standpoint, which if
Speaker 11: Utah is going to be in Big Twelve title contention,
Speaker 11: I do think they're gonna have to throw the rock.
Speaker 11: I anticipate, you know, games being more quarterback run centric,
Speaker 11: maybe a little bit ball control, lean on your defense,
Speaker 11: don't make mistakes and offense kind of thing and wear
Speaker 11: you down type of offense, which that's more how Utah
Speaker 11: was when I was in college. But I do think
Speaker 11: they're gonna have to throw the rock to win a championship,
Speaker 11: and I'd imagine that will be the biggest adjustment for
Speaker 11: Dan Pierre coming into the next level. But you said
Speaker 11: it coming over with your offensive coordinator. It's becoming a
Speaker 11: trend in college football. You're seeing it at Oklahoma with
Speaker 11: John Mattier and his offensive coordinator coming from Washington State.
Speaker 11: You've seen it in years past. I mean Diego Pavia
Speaker 11: at Vanderbilt last year took the college football world by storm.
Speaker 11: He came over with his play caller and whatnot. So
Speaker 11: in my era when a quarterback was transferring, so much
Speaker 11: of the conversation with Hey, they're gonna have to learn
Speaker 11: a new offense and that's gonna be the biggest adjustment.
Speaker 11: That's not the case when you're coming over with your OC,
Speaker 11: which is a huge level up compared to the different
Speaker 11: era of recruiting.
Speaker 1: Tell me Max, what you know about UCLA.
Speaker 2: Utah Is opening opponent this year on the non con
Speaker 2: will be at the Rose Bullegain's UCLA. We're still eighteen
Speaker 2: days away, but we already have odds. Utah is about
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Favorite DraftKings right now has a minus six
Speaker 2: point five. So it's a road games, first game for Devin.
Speaker 2: What we know about the Bruins, Utah's first opponent this season.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they have the most noteworthy and I'm sure you've
Speaker 11: covered it with your audience, with the most noteworthy quarterback
Speaker 11: transfer really of the entire offseason, and Nico Yamalayava coming
Speaker 11: from Tennessee. A lot of controversy around that obviously transfer
Speaker 11: and after spring because if you believe the reports you.
Speaker 8: Here that he wasn't getting the money that he wanted.
Speaker 11: So welcome to new school Nil and transfer portal.
Speaker 8: But I would say from a Utah lens, I.
Speaker 11: Mean, the threat of what that team can be with
Speaker 11: Nico behind center, to me, is a lot scarier than
Speaker 11: where they were before him, obviously, or funny enough, I
Speaker 11: shouldn't say obviously, but Joey Aguilar was on track to
Speaker 11: be their starter. Nico comes in and so then Joey
Speaker 11: just transfers to Tennessee and it was a little musical
Speaker 11: chairs game there. But I think Nico's got a lot
Speaker 11: of talent. I think he's gotten a raw deal a
Speaker 11: little bit from a perception perspective, because he was the
Speaker 11: first quarterback to be one of these multi million dollar
Speaker 11: guys coming out of high school. I mean, the number
Speaker 11: you heard from him out of high school is getting
Speaker 11: offered eight million dollars a year. So the expectations have
Speaker 11: been so high they've been Hey, if you're not a
Speaker 11: first rounder in three years, what's going on? The kid
Speaker 11: can still play. Does he need to get better for sure?
Speaker 11: Does he need to clean things up for sure? Is
Speaker 11: he a top five quarterback in college football? No? But
Speaker 11: do I think he has the talent to potentially get
Speaker 11: there if things work out for him? Sure. The only
Speaker 11: problem is there's not a lot of talent around him
Speaker 11: at UCLA. So when you look at who those playmakers
Speaker 11: and he's going to be throwing the rock two or
Speaker 11: who's going to be running next to them, I don't
Speaker 11: know the answers to that.
Speaker 8: I don't They've lost some.
Speaker 11: Talent in the portal in their own right. That's concerning
Speaker 11: to me. They lost j Michael Sturt event their go
Speaker 11: to receiver a year ago to Florida. I believe it
Speaker 11: was one of my one of the one of the
Speaker 11: state of Florida schools, and so that to me is
Speaker 11: the biggest concern is. I mean, Nico's got some talent,
Speaker 11: but I wonder what UCLA has around him. And so
Speaker 11: I'm from a Utah lens, I think it's an opportunity
Speaker 11: to uh, you know, send a message week one.
Speaker 2: So the Vegas odds to win the Big Twelve depending
Speaker 2: on which sports book you look at, but it's more
Speaker 2: or less Arizona State, k State, Texas Tech, Utah, and
Speaker 2: Baylor as the five team. And look, we were all
Speaker 2: so wrong about this conference a year ago that they
Speaker 2: just decided to kill the Big.
Speaker 1: Twelve preseason media poll.
Speaker 2: So odds are what they are, and preseason polls are
Speaker 2: what they are. But I guess the way I'll ask it, Max,
Speaker 2: is your tier one teams in the Big Twelve are
Speaker 2: who and why?
Speaker 1: And as Utah in that mix.
Speaker 11: That's hilarious.
Speaker 8: I actually didn't even know that.
Speaker 11: That's funny, Yether like, we picked ASU to finished last
Speaker 11: last year, so we're not going to have the terrible
Speaker 11: PR crisis what that was.
Speaker 8: That's hilarious.
Speaker 11: I mean, the Tier one is probably as wide as
Speaker 11: any Tier one of any conference, which is what makes
Speaker 11: the Big Twelve amazing because I do think, you know,
Speaker 11: there's well probably five or six teams in there. I
Speaker 11: mean maybe this is media West Coast bias. I still
Speaker 11: put Utah in that tier because of the upside of
Speaker 11: what Dan Peer can do because of what Whittingham has done.
Speaker 13: And again I think last year was an outlier.
Speaker 11: I put Texas Tech there, I put Iowa State there,
Speaker 11: I put Kansas State there, and I probably put Arizona
Speaker 11: State there. First two out for me, I had TCU
Speaker 11: I called one of their games last year. I'm still
Speaker 11: not there with them. I know people like Josh Hoover
Speaker 11: their quarterback, and then Colorado also has questions that quarterback.
Speaker 11: So yeah, to me, it's those five teams that I mentioned.
Speaker 11: I'm very intrigued with what Texas Tech is. I mean
Speaker 11: big picture. I think Iyawa State, Kansas State, Arizona State,
Speaker 11: like those are quality football teams, you know, and to
Speaker 11: some extent what you're gonna get. But Texas Tech, as
Speaker 11: I'm sure you've covered as absolutely rated portal as you know,
Speaker 11: cranked it up.
Speaker 8: A whole notch.
Speaker 11: And one thing that I don't think is getting covered
Speaker 11: as much with their transfer portal acquisitions as maybe should
Speaker 11: is they are betting on Baron Moore and their quarterback
Speaker 11: to be the guy that can lead him to a championship,
Speaker 11: and they did not go to the outside and invest
Speaker 11: in a transfer portal quarterback, which I think a lot
Speaker 11: of schools with that kind of money would have done that.
Speaker 11: I'm not saying Morton's a bad quarterback, but I'm saying,
Speaker 11: if you're gonna have an influx of millions of dollars
Speaker 11: that you did not have a year ago to your
Speaker 11: NIL program, I think there's a lot of head coaches
Speaker 11: I would have tried to go get the big fish
Speaker 11: in the quarterback portal market. They didn't necessarily do that
Speaker 11: and invested those resources and all the dudes around him.
Speaker 11: I don't, I don't. I don't necessarily know if it's
Speaker 11: gonna be a good orbit strategy. I just think it's
Speaker 11: an interesting strategy because on paper, Texas Tech had a
Speaker 11: huge portal class and that's the team. That's interesting to me,
Speaker 11: like when you look, hey, the past two years, what
Speaker 11: are the teams that have popped nationally that on paper,
Speaker 11: we probably could have projected that Indiana last year, Right,
Speaker 11: they had a lot of proven talent that came over
Speaker 11: and we dismissed it because it was Indiana. But then
Speaker 11: in hindsight, it's like, wait, those guys were playing really
Speaker 11: high quality football. Yes it was a level down, but
Speaker 11: we probably could have seen that pop coming better than
Speaker 11: we did. And then the year before that. I know
Speaker 11: a lot of West Coast people had Washington with Michael
Speaker 11: Pennix and Klin de Boor making a pop, but that
Speaker 11: was not a national storyline. I think it should have been,
Speaker 11: because when you look on paper, that was a Husky
Speaker 11: team that had NFL prospects at every level. My point
Speaker 11: is when you look at Texas Tech and the damage
Speaker 11: they've done in the portal, I mean, they should be
Speaker 11: right in the thick of Big Twelve title conversations come November.
Speaker 2: BYU a year ago they were picked to finish to
Speaker 2: last and finish second in the conference.
Speaker 1: Further in the narrative of why we're no longer allowed to.
Speaker 2: Rank these teams preseason, but they lose their quarterback, Jake
Speaker 2: Ratz Laugh is now at Tulane. Of course, that story
Speaker 2: was wildly, you know, widely covered, not just here locally
Speaker 2: but naturally with the honor coach stuff. It was certainly
Speaker 2: sticky and certainly messy. It sounds like Max they're going
Speaker 2: to start the bear Bachmeyer kid. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know anything about him. He's a freshman that spent
Speaker 2: some spring ball at Stanford. Aaron Roderick BYU's offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: badly wanted him out of high school.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna get that job over McKay Hillstead and Tracon Borgae,
Speaker 2: who sounds like he's the odd man out. BYU well
Speaker 2: ranked ahead of Utah in both the AP and the
Speaker 2: coaches poll, is eighth in Vegas and odds to win
Speaker 2: the conference even behind Kansas, just ahead of Colorado. Good defense,
Speaker 2: good coaching staff. What are you expecting this year from
Speaker 2: bringing me up?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm waiting to see.
Speaker 11: On the quarterback position, I think obviously, anytime you're losing
Speaker 11: a starter that was were successful for them, that's that's concerning.
Speaker 11: I do think you know, it wasn't like Retslov was
Speaker 11: always the reason they were winning games, which would make
Speaker 11: me encourage if I was b YU where hey, maybe
Speaker 11: you know if it is Bachmeyer, who I've covered his
Speaker 11: brother in person, called a couple of his games last
Speaker 11: year at Wake Forest, you know, if he steps in
Speaker 11: and he's the guy like you don't need to light
Speaker 11: the world on light the world on fire. The thing
Speaker 11: that always is intriguing to me with BYU, especially in
Speaker 11: this transfer portal era where there is so movement. BYU's
Speaker 11: roster makeup is much more sticky and the culture is
Speaker 11: much more ingrained rather than a lot of other programs
Speaker 11: have to reinvent their culture every single every single year
Speaker 11: because you know, there's a heavy dose of portal fluctuation
Speaker 11: for lack of a better term. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 11: BYU is an older roster, which has always played a
Speaker 11: factor and has always been an advantage for BYU, but
Speaker 11: I think it's even more of an advantage in this
Speaker 11: era of college football. So I'm never counting BYU out.
Speaker 11: But obviously they got to find an answer at quarterback
Speaker 11: or I don't think they're gonna be back in the
Speaker 11: back at the level they.
Speaker 13: Were a year ago.
Speaker 2: Moving off to Big twelve and talking some big picture
Speaker 2: national college football, Texas is your number one team of
Speaker 2: both the AP and the coaches, Paul, of course, Steve
Speaker 2: sarkisian arch manning a lot of buzz around Texas this year.
Speaker 2: Are they deserving number one? Do you think they're the
Speaker 2: best team in college football this year?
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 8: I would have put them there.
Speaker 11: I was actually kind of surprised they were one because
Speaker 11: everything I'm listening to and reading it feels like most
Speaker 11: people have either Penn State or Clemson as their number
Speaker 11: one team, But I like Texas. I mean, I'm a
Speaker 11: believer in what Arch can be. I mean, I know
Speaker 11: you're I'm getting ahead of myself with that take, but
Speaker 11: I just the brief action. We've seen everything you read,
Speaker 11: you listen, you listen to his interviews, Like you know,
Speaker 11: I'm I'm bought in and in the hype there and
Speaker 11: and what he could be. But I think it'll be
Speaker 11: really interesting because this year, more than other years, there's
Speaker 11: a lot of big time programs rated inside the top
Speaker 11: ten that have a huge question in that quarterback and
Speaker 11: what that quarterback situation will be. You know, you got
Speaker 11: Notre Dame at six, Oregon at seven, Alabama at eight,
Speaker 11: who named their start today.
Speaker 13: Georgia is going to be breaking in a new starter.
Speaker 8: I mean that's what.
Speaker 11: Five four teams there and Ohio State, So half the
Speaker 11: top ten has brand new quarterbacks. That's I feel like
Speaker 11: we haven't had that in years past, which obviously a
Speaker 11: lot of those starters are highly ranked guys.
Speaker 13: But what's the.
Speaker 11: Upside Because if one of those teams is going to
Speaker 11: come up and win a national title, it's because hey,
Speaker 11: the quarterback that we don't know anything about could be
Speaker 11: a guy that's a high upside guy like I know,
Speaker 11: I'm super intrigued with what Dante Moore could be at
Speaker 11: Oregon after sitting out a year and being a former
Speaker 11: five star guy. I feel like sometimes people latch on
Speaker 11: the only what he was as a true freshman youngster
Speaker 11: at UCLA and forget he was a big time recruit
Speaker 11: and he's not a finished product as a freshman. So
Speaker 11: those schools are fascinating to me, like the Alabama as
Speaker 11: Oregon's Notre Dame Georgia with new quarterback, I think they
Speaker 11: have maybe a higher upside than some of these other teams,
Speaker 11: and again obviously with Texas as well. But right now,
Speaker 11: middle of August, I do think Texas is a worthy
Speaker 11: number one team overall in the country.
Speaker 2: Before I said you lose and your point about these
Speaker 2: schools breaking in new quarterbacks certainly a good one and
Speaker 2: certainly one we've covered a lot because BYU and Utah
Speaker 2: are also breaking in new quarterbacks. Penn State and Clemson
Speaker 2: are not, and they are two teams that did receive
Speaker 2: votes as the number one team in the country with
Speaker 2: clad Caid club, Nick the kid, who I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people might believe might be the number one
Speaker 2: pick and Drew Aller, I think answered a lot of
Speaker 2: questions last year for Penn State.
Speaker 1: How beneficial is that for those.
Speaker 2: Two teams really maybe the only two teams in the
Speaker 2: top upper echelon of college football that actually do have
Speaker 2: return in QBS.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's huge, it's huge.
Speaker 11: I do wonder though, like, because we fell into this
Speaker 11: trap as a media world last year, at least a
Speaker 11: lot of people did. I won't speak for you, Spence,
Speaker 11: but we we anointed Carson Beck this time last year
Speaker 11: as like the shirt fire number one overall pick in
Speaker 11: the NFL draft or at worst he's at least a
Speaker 11: first rounder.
Speaker 8: And how wrong are we with that?
Speaker 11: I mean, he's not even a top ten quarterback in
Speaker 11: preseason list this year. And I wonder if we're doing
Speaker 11: the same thing with Drew Aler because he looks the
Speaker 11: part coming off the bus and he's obviously got a
Speaker 11: rocket arm. But man, sometimes I think, hey, Tyler Warren,
Speaker 11: you know, do we underestimate the impact that he had
Speaker 11: with the offense? And you know, we've seen two full
Speaker 11: seasons from Drew Aller, and sure he got better last year,
Speaker 11: but to me, he's not in that conversation yet of Hey,
Speaker 11: where at cam Ward was as a number one overall pick,
Speaker 11: or certainly where a Kayleb Williams was as a number
Speaker 11: one overall pick, or even you know guys like a
Speaker 11: Michael Pennix that I know we've covered a bunch, Like.
Speaker 13: Those guys still have a big step to do.
Speaker 11: And Kate Klubnick, I think is deserving of being the
Speaker 11: top returning quarterback in college football, but again looking at
Speaker 11: the NFL, like his legs are a huge part of
Speaker 11: his college game, I think his mobility gets minimized a
Speaker 11: lot in the NFL, So I think he's got to
Speaker 11: develop a lot as a pocket passer and like, show
Speaker 11: me that you can win games from the pocket, you know,
Speaker 11: leading two minute drills without your legs being a factor.
Speaker 11: That's when I think he gets to the NFL ceiling.
Speaker 11: And again that's also why I'm intriguing about all these
Speaker 11: other new quarterbacks because I think as a media world,
Speaker 11: we're falling into a trap. We're like, we know what
Speaker 11: Kate Klebnick is, we know what True Aller is, so
Speaker 11: we're talking about those guys a bunch we don't really
Speaker 11: know what Julian saying is at Ohio State. We don't
Speaker 11: really know what Notre Dame's quarterback situation is, so if
Speaker 11: those guys were to hit, it could totally change the
Speaker 11: complex of college football match.
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Speaker 5: Thanks.
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