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Speaker 1: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hobby Hotline. This is episode three ninety one.

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We are here on the four Collectors YouTube channel. I

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am here with two of the original co hosts. When

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I first started getting on this show and doing some

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of the hosting. These were two of the guys that

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you know I was originally hosting with. We have doctor

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Jim Beckett, we have Uncle Rich Klein. Jim, I'll start

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with you, how's your week been, what you've been up to?

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Speaker 3: Staying busy, stay and busy. But I'm just not shocked.

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But three ninety one episodes is a lot. Now, It's

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not a lot for you, Adam, because you did daily

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for so long, and for me I've done for a while,

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but three ninety one is is It's not a you know,

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round number or anything, but it's I'm happy. We wouldn't

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be doing it if it wasn't for the for the.

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Speaker 2: Audience, right exactly. Yeah, and three ninety one only going

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once a week. We worked twice a week for a

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little bit or now we're back to once a week.

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But yeah, my first episode was episode one hundred, I think,

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so it's crazy to think that there's been three hundred

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more episodes that we've done collectively as a unit. I

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think we I think this is probably one of the

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only shows where you have this many different types of

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you know, voices, and this type of diversity whether whatever

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whoever is on the show. You got tons of different

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co hosts every week.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Uncle Rich, what's up with you? How you has

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your week been?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: My week was fine. I celebrated another trip around the

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Sun on Thursday, and I went to a TCG show

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yesterday that our friends from the Dallas Card Show put on.

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And it was it's almost a pop up four hundred

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card show, if you could believe that. And it was

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nice and inexpensive to get there, and there was no

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I did not have to pay for parking, and it

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was five dollars to get in the door. And all

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the pretty young ladies at the front that known me

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and they said, go see go see Jerica if you want,

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and I said, look for five dollars to get in

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the door. I'll just add, knowing this question money, I'll

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just give you the five dollars. I'll just give you

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the five dollars. And everybody started laughing. And I actually

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budgeted X amount of money just to bring and I

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actually spent the money I brought with me, which which

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was a total shock because there were actually baseball card

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value boxes there. I didn't go through the other sports,

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but you know, if it's not the worst worst afternoon

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in the world to spend afternoon going through value.

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Speaker 1: Boxes, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I think this past week we jumped between

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or were less than fifty days away from the National

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So that's another another milestone here as we get into

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I guess it's almost national season. I mean, I know

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that they've got Fanatics Fest I think is before the

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National this year, and the Fanatics Fest is actually going

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to be the same weekend as the World Cup final

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in Well that's going on in MetLife. You're gonna have

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the city. You're gonna have bad expst. But speaking of

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the World Cup, that's actually going to be our first

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topic for today's show. So last night we had the

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US men's national team, I mean really kind of dominate.

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I watched most of the game. The second half was

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there were at times it didn't look as good as

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maybe people were expecting. After that first half, three nothing

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almost four nothing. If you know, somebody, if polistic doesn't

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go outside there. But yeah, it's gonna be exciting. These

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players are so ball again. He scored two goals and

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he was actually wearing the debut patch that TOPS is using.

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I'm not really sure if they've come out with news

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about where they're going to be putting the debut patches.

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But you know, I'll start I'll go around the horn here,

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doctor Jim. Did you know? I know, was it was

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start there. But did you were able to catch any

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of that game last night?

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Speaker 3: I had a date last night with oh wonderful woman

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in the world, my wife. But here's the thing I

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got home and a fact, what happened to the Paraguay

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vaunted defense. We're supposed to be so strong and they

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got four goals scored on them, So either that means

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they're not as good or maybe the US team is

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is gonna outperform their expectations.

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Speaker 1: That'd be great, Yeah, I hope.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is since they announced the World Cup

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and then in twenty twenty, because now at this point

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it's twenty twenty two. I've been following this US team

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and this is one of the better teams that they've had.

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you are I mean, what are your thoughts to just

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about the World Cup in general?

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Speaker 4: Here? I was shocked by the dominance of the USA

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team last night. I watched most of the game. It's

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rare for me nowadays to actually watch sporting events, but

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I watched that and it was the match was so

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dominated by USA. And I'm thinking, this is like a

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hockey game where they're where you can tell who the

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better team is because they are They're controlling the puck

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and the other team's defensive zone. They were controlling the

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ball the other team's defensive zone. They were just and

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fuego as the eis well going. Turned My wonderful wife

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walk around hearing us talk about this and screaming, UF

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if you caught that, if that got caught on on

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the video. And what's interesting is, by the way, there's

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a couple other things. The Finances Fest is at the

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Javitt Center in New York. It's an insane place. It's

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the same weekend as the Big West Coast Card Show,

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hosted by Rob Viris and his crew and the Dallas

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Card Show. It's going to be this would be a week.

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If we were back in Beckett in nineteen ninety two,

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we'd be sending people to all three shows to compare

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them notes. I shuddered what the budget would have been

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at Beckett in nineteen ninety two, that to send people

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to those who actually wondered being Dallas. But I shudder

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what the budget would have been been to send people

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to those shows in those days. But what's interesting is,

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especially during the World Cup, sport card interest and since

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this is hobby hotline, a sports card interest has really slowed.

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I know four years ago when I would sit with

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Angela and Stefan at the comm seat table booth at

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the Dallas Card Show, and I remember the month before

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the show, we had one of our best months ever

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at that show, as people were sending in soccer card

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after soccer card with like the select Or the Elite

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Service to get them on before the whole tournament began.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Jim, do you think you turn your speaker down

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just a tiny bit? I think that there's some feedback

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coming through your computer when I think, like when I

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was speaking and then when we're speaking, I could see

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your mic going off with this. Let's see, Yeah, I

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think yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so at least for now,

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we'll see. But yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Rich, No,

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that's fine.

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Speaker 4: And it's the interest during the card show, the interest

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in carts has really exploded in soccer, and I think

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that's great. On the worldwide thing, Fanavis talks about expanding

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the hobby. Ten x Soccer is still the most popular

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sport in the world. Right, You're gonna tell if you

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get a big uptick in soccer, you're gonna get a

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lot of the way to ten x, you know. And

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I also just saw that PSA is part of dealing

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with their backlog. One of their foreign offices starts a

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soft opening in July and really a more heavy beginning

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in August.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're right about the ten

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xing with the foreign market. And I mean there's a guy,

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but there's a guy named Michael Felger, and he is

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like a contrarian like everything. Like he's not from Boston,

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so like all of his takes are very anti Boston.

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little bit. He had to take it. That was very

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interesting this past week about the MLS and their deal

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when they brought Messi on and the Apple Tea deal

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and that I think it's been not so good. It's

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good for Apple obviously, but I think for the fans

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putting it behind that big paywall really I think hurt

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soccer a little bit. And you know, I expected that

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deal to help soccer, but I think what ended up

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happening was that they just made the sport a little

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bit more inaccessible to watch. So the interest I think

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actually should be much higher for this World Cup than

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it is, especially for most of a lot of the

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US players, like you know, not Polisic or McKinney, but

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like some of the US players like the goalie for example,

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he plays for the New York He plays for New

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York FC. So there should be a little bit more interest,

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I think in in the World Cup from a soccer

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from a card perspective, I think that there could be.

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Is that correct? Ninety four. Okay, yeah, so you know,

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doctor Beckett, do you remember back then? Not to age myself,

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born ninety three, so I was one years old, so

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one years old. But do you remember what it was like?

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time or was it? How much different is it compared

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Speaker 3: Upper Deck put out a lot of soccer cards back

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in those days, they had various sets around ninety four.

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My big regret, I'm remembering this now, that there were

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at least one game and maybe more down at the

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Cotton Bowl, and I remember getting offered tickets and not

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taking them, but I don't remember the tickets being that expensive.

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tickets are really really expensive. And it's just like the

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card in the sports card world. I mean, they're testing

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the limits of the of their best customers and the

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fans by raising ticket prices, just like box prices and

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card prices. They're getting up so high that you really

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you want it, but you're just thinking, wow, do I

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want to pay this much to sit in the in

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the they're no cheap seats. You know, you pay huge

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bucks for something that's in the rafter.

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to go to the Norway versus France game that's at

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the World Cup because they had to take the sponsors off,

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which I think is very funny because they also have

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all the sponsors on all of the stuff inside the stadium,

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but for some reason outside the stadium they're not allowed

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to which also again calling it Boston Stadium when Boston's

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forty five minutes away. It's you know, that's the case

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with a lot of the stadiums. Actually, I know that,

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like the Dallas Stadium is in Arlington, which is half

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an hour away the uh I think they're calling it

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San Francisco Stadium when it's actually in Santa Claro, which

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is far away. It's and even same with them calling

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you know, it's going to be interesting to see how

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there's some of that stuff going on. But yeah, I

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think the the ticket price for that game, which obviously

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would have been in Bappa versus Holland, which are two

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of the biggest names in the sport. Those tickets were

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like one thousand dollars, So I'm not you know, unfortunately,

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I'm not gonna be able to go and I don't

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have a thousand dollars laying around to go to the

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World Cup. Also, I don't know if either of you

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easy to get to whatsoever. Like there's gonna be incredible

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very interesting to see how that goes. First games at

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more soccer or is it kind of the Has it

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Speaker 4: As I said, it's been a steady increase overall in soccer,

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and it gets exacerbated during the World Cup. I pointed

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out about, you know, the submissions in twenty twenty two

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to come see. I'm sure the submissions in twenty twenty six,

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especially being here in America and Canada and Mexico, are

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even higher and even more intense.

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Speaker 3: And I do.

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Speaker 4: Remember, as Jen said, the nineteen ninety four upper deck

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sets and those sets where they did many different varieties

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of those cards. I don't want to call on variations,

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but I think they had several different languages on the cards.

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They were very active in those days of doing several

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different languages on cards. You know basketball as well. So

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growth in soccer, and I think we're going to see

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another push upward. And as a person who has gone

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to some MLS games here it's been a while, it's

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it's great to see the interest. And recently my wife

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wife's cousins son is on an elite soccer sixteen and

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under soccer team and they were in a pre national tournament,

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near where they play in Frisco. And I will tell

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you that the recruiters, the college recruiters, the foreign recruiters,

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these kids. This was a very high level soccer for

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sixteen year old and I think that was the max age,

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so I think I might have been sixteen and under.

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And when we got to the we got to the

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match and we pull into the parking lot and I

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see somebody and I think that, I think I see

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these two guys wearing Clemson used university shirts and I said,

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if I remember, you guys have a pretty good team.

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And they said, yeah, we've won two national titles in

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the last five years. And had okay, let me rephrase that,

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you guys have really good teams there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the type of level of people who

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were coming to recruit at those games, right, those matches,

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and soccer has truly become one of the most popular

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sports in this country. I saw a stat the other

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day where now soccer is considered by ten percent of

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the American popularis their most popular sport. In third place

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baseball is now for which of course is a baseball fan.

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That's a little annoying to me, but I understand why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, I think this generation, you know,

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I've called them the Golden Generation. I don't know if

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that's something that a lot of people agree with, Like

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this is one of the better opportunities I think that

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we have to win this World Cup. I don't I'm

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not even real one hundred percent sure if they can

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or not. Like Spain and Germany and all these teams,

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they're just those kids are born with the soccer ball

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at their feet. So like here in the United States,

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we've seen, like with the MLS, they luckily have, you know,

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the league itself, like the MLS is I think now

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it's thirty years old at this point. So there's an

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opportunity for players to go professionally at a young age,

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and it's it's driven more players to play that sport

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I think than we've seen in a year's past. And

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you know, you've got a player like Polisic who at

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thirteen years old, the only way for him to play professionally,

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really to do it at a profitable level, was to

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go over to Germany and play for Dortmund. So and

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it's similar with like Wester McKinney and Tyler Adams. I mean,

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those players are part of this generation that I think

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are going to be uh you know, I think it's

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one of our best opportunities to win the World Cup.

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We'll see maybe twenty thirty how these players go. But

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like this is the prime for a lot of these players,

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So I think that this is one of the better

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shots that we have. If they play up to the competition,

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then you know that's going to be good. I think

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one of the problems they had before was they just

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didn't play up to the competition, like they would play

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down to their uh, they would play down to their opponents.

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So that was one thing I was nervous about last night.

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And then they scored three goals in the first half

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and kind of was stomping them a little bit. I mean, yeah,

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they I think that they're going to need to score

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a lot of goals in this World Cup because they're

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you know, their defenders play up like you know, Anton Robinson,

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he plays up on the on the end there. So

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they're gonna have to score a lot of goals. We'll

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see how it goes. But yeah, well so I mean

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we'll kind of move on here from World Cup stuff.

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I'll just kick it to doctor Beckett one last time.

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Is there anything else you had him out the World

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Cup or or anything else? You had there.

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Speaker 3: I think FIFA has done some things that people haven't liked,

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but the other sports leagues, for their big events are

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probably thinking, hmm, that's interesting that you can, you know,

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charge that much for tickets and then you can and

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you can kind of jerrymander the parking to have approved

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tailgaters and then remote parking that's way away, that's still

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really expensive. And so I think the leagues are watching

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and I hope they don't copy some of those that

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might be considered cash grabs. You know that FIFA they

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only have once every four years to grab, but they're

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really grabbing.

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Speaker 2: Right Rich, same same question, or you get to anything

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else in the World Cup here.

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Speaker 4: You and Jim have both pointed out about how you

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Let's stadium is located in the and some of the

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and I'll put in air quotes cash grabs. Remember that

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they are not just charging a lot of money park

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at Jillette Stadium. If you have to shuttle your way

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to Jillette Stadium, they are charging an arm and a

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leg for you to get from your remote parking space

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Joette Stadium. It's not a free shuttle. It is an

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expensive little shuttle. In fact, one of the issues with

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New York, and I remember doing this. I could take

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the bus from Port Authority to whatever they call Gianny

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Stadium now or the Burner, you know, whenever it's the

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burn AINO. When I lived in Jersey. I don't know

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what the corporate names are now, so I apologize to

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the corporate people, but you could take the bus. Well,

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they're charging now one hundred dollars for what used to

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be a two dollars bus drip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, rights.

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Speaker 2: It's the same with the commuter rail from Boston to

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Gelette Stadium. I think is it's usually like ten to

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fifteen dollars if you're going to like a Patriots game,

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and I'm fairly confidence like eighty dollars now, which it's unfortunate,

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that's what that's kind of what they're doing. But I mean,

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I don't know, it's just I think it's unfortunate. But

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when you have an event like this and the demand

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is going to be there, I guess it's all you

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can say is just kid, that's what capital capitalism is

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going to capitalism. You know that if there's money to

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be made, people are going to try and make it.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, but Adam, there's also increased cost of services for

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those cities and areas and police and all that kind

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of stuff, traffic control, all that stuff. So I have

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a little bit of sympathy, but when it's five hundred

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percent right, I'm wondering.

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Speaker 2: Right right, totally? Yeah, I agree, we have. You know,

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it's been a pretty heavy sports week rather than a

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sports card week necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We have Game five of the NBA Finals tonight, and

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the Knicks are you know the LA Game four in

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NYC that was maybe one of the best NBA Finals

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games we've ever seen. With the comeback that they had

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and the Game five, it looks like the Knicks could

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potentially pull off. I suppose it would be an upset.

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I mean, I don't know. The Spurs are good, the

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Knicks are good. They're both good teams. So I think

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the Spurs probably win this, and then the Knicks I

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think will probably end up winning. I think just based

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on a three to one deficit, it's hard to come

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back from in the NBA Finals. But yeah, so NBA

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Finals stuff, it's very very fun, you know, Rich I'll

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start with you, what are your kind of overall thoughts

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here NBA Finals? And I guess we can, you know,

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related to cards, I suppose as well.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, there are a couple of things. First, I mean,

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I was a dis fan growing up. It's been fifty

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three years. That's long enough. Second, when I remember I

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was on a family vacation in Maine in like nineteen

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seventy's or seventy one, it's the sixth and we've and

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the second year of the Tall Boys and Basketball cards.

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It was really cool because in that series were NBA

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Finals cards where they had recaps of each game. So

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even going back to the very beginning, almost of tops

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doing NBA cards, they would at least talk about the

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NBA Finals. There have been thirty seven or thirty eight

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occasions where teams have had three one deficits in the

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NBA Finals. The only the Cavaliers in twenty sixteen have

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ever pulled off the comeback. So, and I remember I

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was monitoring the game slightly the other night and I

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saw the scores like seventy five to forty six or

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something like that, and I said, okay, we're just going

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six or seven.

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Speaker 1: And it's right.

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Speaker 4: And the next morning I woke up and it was like,

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wait a second, OG wins on a tap at the buzzer,

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it's like did I miss something? Did I wake up

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in an alternate universe? And if that, I mean, I

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think Fanatics has already said, like the netting from the

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game is going to be on a card. If that

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card is not on the TOPS Now and that card

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has not sold like ten thousand copies, I'd be shot

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that I'd beat that. And that is one of the

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great things. And I'll say Pannini instant from when they

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were doing it and tops now has done, is you

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get instantaneous cards of the of the really iconic moments

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of sports. You don't have to wait any more four months,

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six months to get the iconic moment.

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Speaker 1: It's immedia right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so doctor Beckett kind of similar question here, like

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what are your thoughts on the finals? Have you been

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kind of following it when then, I guess if you

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want to relate it to any card thoughts about the

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finals or NBA cards just in general here.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see, actually, I'd love to see a

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game six. I just think they're building up the suspense

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so we'll see. The Spurs are a young team and

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it's just it's a gut punch to lose like that.

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So yeah, they're gonna come back strong at home and

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then and then game six, Game seven. Could there be

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a Game seven? I don't know, you know, I just

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I just I'm not done with basketball. I think the drama, well,

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it's just the Spurs go up in every game there,

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they come out strong and then hold on. So this

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this is I wonder. I wonder if an element of

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that is coaching or the you know the fact that

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all they're young. They got mainly young guys. But I'd

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like to see I'd like to see him come out

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strong tonight and then for the either way, you can't

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lose in one sense, because if it goes back to

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New York for a game six, that will be so bonkers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely, especially.

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Speaker 3: I mean, any of that stuff is good for the hobby.

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Speaker 1: Right totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with what we've seen just in game these

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last two games in New York, the celebrities have been

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coming out in troves that said courtside there. I don't

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know if you guys saw the the Stefan Castle card.

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I actually ordered a couple of them. Let's see if

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it's in this article. I don't think so, but it

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was like the celebrities. There was like Tina Fey, Ben Stiller,

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like Spike Lee, like there was like ten all ten

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of the celebrities that were in the front row there

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or on the back of this card. It's gonna be

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very interesting one to see how many of them sell

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and if it ends up being like you know, because

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we've seen the cards with like Drake in the background.

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Then there was the famous card with the Menendez brothers,

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and there's been all of these famous cards, and then

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you have the one where uh I think it was

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there was some other rapper that was on the back

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of some John Morant cards. So it's interesting to see.

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I would like to see Tops capitalize on that a

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little bit more, figure out a way to get more

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of the celebrities in the back of these cards, because

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I think it adds kind of just a cool element

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to to these cards. And I agree with you, doctor Beckett,

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I'm not ready to see the NBA. The NBA in

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the season. I mean, it's been a really great season. Celtics.

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My Celtics obviously didn't do so well, unfortunately losing in

479
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,359
the first round, but actually they were up three to

480
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,240
one and they lost, so that was a. So it

481
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,039
does it can't happen in the playoffs, not it's so

482
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:49,799
much in the finals, like you said, Rich, But yeah,

483
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,440
it's definitely going to be a I mean it'll be

484
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,920
all these games have been pretty close and good, so

485
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,519
we'll see how how this ends up going for the NBA. So,

486
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:01,799
I mean kind of a I don't know, did you

487
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,279
guys have any other thoughts on the NBA stuff? I mean,

488
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,279
like we it's it's a go ahead, Jim.

489
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: I just think Michael Rubin fanatics Tops. They've got this

490
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:16,160
spectacular opportunity to bring into the Tops now some combo

491
00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:22,319
signed h short printed versions that have Taylor Swift or

492
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Been Skiller or Spike Lee, you know, along with O

493
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680
g Onobi or or a Jalen Brunson. I mean, if

494
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,880
they they've got them, it's like at the the rookie

495
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,680
at the draft, they're they're all right there. They could say,

496
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,359
look can you sign this sign now? Again, it might

497
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,920
have to be a sticker or something like it, but

498
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:46,559
lining up and having a Jalen Brunson Spike Lee card

499
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:49,599
or you know that's signed by both to me, I

500
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,799
think you get a lot of pr for that. And

501
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:54,279
again I'm all about ten Xing as well, and ten

502
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,039
Xing is is being more in the public consciousness.

503
00:24:58,519 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: Right Yeah.

504
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:00,799
Speaker 2: I mean, just like if we zoom in here, you

505
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,279
got uh, like the the who's who of New York

506
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:10,079
Knicks fans. You got Tracy Uh, Tracy Morgan is Tracy Morgan.

507
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:12,839
I don't know if that's Michael Ruben or not. It

508
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,400
might be potentially. Then you got obviously Ben Stiller. Unfortunately,

509
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,839
my guy Timothy Shalmy was the guy with these orange

510
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,720
pants here, and he's being blocked I think by the

511
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,119
image or by the player. But yeah, the amount of

512
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,920
celebrities on this card is like pretty pretty wild. And

513
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,759
I don't know if they had any plans to do

514
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:32,680
any celebrity stuff with this card specifically, but if they

515
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:34,759
go into like you said, if they go back to

516
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:37,039
New York, I think that they have to set something

517
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400
up here, you know. I think, like you said, doctor Beckett,

518
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,079
like they should probably set something up where they know

519
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200
who the celebrities are and they could do some sort

520
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,359
of NBA celebrity front rows set. I mean that would

521
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
be I think that would be really cool.

522
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: And the photographers can h the access for photography at

523
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,279
NBA is very controlled and that these are expert photographers.

524
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:04,200
You you could get the field of vision to be

525
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:08,759
more prominent for these celebrities. You know, you're just like

526
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,680
what you're showing there. You could you could more lock

527
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,160
in and like I said, i think for Michael Rubin

528
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,240
and fanatics, I'm not sure there's rules that it's not

529
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,640
illegal if the Players Association is okay with you know,

530
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,519
having other featured people in a basket on a basketball card,

531
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,599
especially if it's going to expand the market. So I'd

532
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,119
love to see that. I'd love to see that.

533
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I totally agree, And yeah, so I'll be rich.

534
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,720
Any any final thoughts here on the LA Finals or

535
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:39,359
NBA cards.

536
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if you saw, but there was

537
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,559
recently a Yasil Pueek Tops Now World Series card PSA

538
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:51,759
ten that sold for like sixty thousand dollars because Kobe

539
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,920
Bryant's very visible on the back and one thing you

540
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,880
have to understand, and Brian rape For is out recently,

541
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,480
Vanessa Brant is not putting Kobe appear on any cards

542
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,599
right now. So right now, Koch, the universe of Kobe

543
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,799
Bryant's cards as big as it is is closed and

544
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,599
that's very interesting. So that shows just how popular these

545
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,359
fan backgrounds can be on a card. Also, one thing

546
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,640
about Wenby, I don't think in this case tops the

547
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,960
NBA can lose whichever team wins the title the next

548
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,839
to compare in New York, one of the major media

549
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,079
markets still in the world. It's great and the Knicks

550
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,599
have very personable players as their key things. And if

551
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,279
the Spurs pull off the comeback, Wenby reminds me and

552
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,200
I mentioned this reason of a very young lu Au Sender.

553
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,759
What people forget about Luel Cinder because most of the

554
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720
video we've seen a Luel Sinder is with the Lakers

555
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:48,799
when he was a little bit older, but a very

556
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:53,839
young Lueuse Cinder. I remember watching NBA games on ABC

557
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,839
Louel Cinder fast breaks. Luel Sender was a very good

558
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,240
ball handler. He was a life young. Wemby has the

559
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,039
same skills a young Luele Sitter had, and even he

560
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:08,119
can shoot from way downtown Bank. I mean, I've seen

561
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,319
him five footers in the NBA. That's that range astounding

562
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,519
at any any any in the fact that he's seven

563
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,839
to five doing that, and I think it's just a

564
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,039
mature right now. But I'll point out the one possible

565
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,119
downside is we all for Orlando when they had all

566
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,519
those young guys at Shaq at Penny of Finals, Houston

567
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,759
beats them. They never got there again. So there's always

568
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,039
that pet I mean, I don't want to say, I

569
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,440
don't want to be the naysayer that this could be done,

570
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:37,559
but some of the history is there one and done

571
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720
the other history there's a learning curve NBA and getting

572
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,559
to the finals so quickly, the Major and then the

573
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:47,720
next step. So either either is that's terrible, but you know,

574
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,880
either for the Spur and I'm excited for top. There's

575
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,640
as you pointed out, with the select MSG, and there

576
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,599
are very specific rules by the way the select at MSG.

577
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,160
They have to stay the whole game. They are not

578
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640
allowed to leave early. You and I were at a

579
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880
game and we decide when these when these Spurs were

580
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,200
up twenty nine, we wanted to leave the celebrities. That's

581
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,359
actually part of the contract they signed to be in

582
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,079
celebrity role the hemisphere.

583
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,799
Speaker 3: Okay, thought question. Let's assume that the Spurs win Game five,

584
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,319
so they go back to New York for Game six.

585
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:25,039
Do you think there will be a bigger riot if

586
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:29,720
they win the Knicks or if they lose. Either way,

587
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:33,319
I think there's gonna be madness in the streets. And yeah,

588
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,519
I have some concern about that win or lose, I

589
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,519
think people are gonna go nuts because, like Rich said,

590
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,079
the fifty three years of pent up.

591
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: Demand, right, Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of

592
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400
one of the cool things about having a team in

593
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,359
the Championship where the stadium is in the middle of

594
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,279
a big city like that, because you know, if you

595
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,079
have also it's maybe different because maybe not NFL so

596
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
much because obviously it's in a different place, but like

597
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960
when you have the games in the middle of the city,

598
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,079
I think it uh creates an environment that is much

599
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,000
more interesting to follow from a fan perspective, like fans

600
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,640
watching fans, like in the streets like that, because you know,

601
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,279
for San Antonio, I don't know, at that stadium, I

602
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,480
mean it's not in New York City, obviously, it's not

603
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,920
like how MSG is in New York City, But like

604
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,480
the stadium being so easily walkable too, I think really

605
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:27,680
makes really makes for an interesting, cool environment. And I think, yeah,

606
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,359
I think someone said in the chat here that they're

607
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:33,359
gonna They're probably gonna riot one way or either way, unfortunately,

608
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,759
And I think too, I think both like I think

609
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,000
both of you guys mentioned this, the players getting back

610
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000
to the NBA Finals is very hard. I think Lebron

611
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:45,440
and maybe Curry were the last two players where you

612
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,240
expected them to be in the finals every year. But

613
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,000
the past five years the matchup has been different, and

614
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,759
no team that's been in the finals the past five

615
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,319
years has gone back in any of the matchups. So

616
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,519
you know, you had you got, you had Celtics, Celtics MAVs,

617
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:04,039
you had the Bucks, Bucks and Sons you had last

618
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,759
year with Indiana and Oka see in the New York

619
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:09,440
and San Antonio. This year, I think it's I think

620
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,640
it's driving fans to watch the games more too. I

621
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
know that I've seen some of the statistics of just

622
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,960
that these are some of the most watched games we've

623
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,559
seen in like years. But uh, yeah, I think it's

624
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,759
I think it's definitely gonna be fun to I think

625
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:23,799
that this finals is gonna go down as probably one

626
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:27,319
of the better, more interesting ones in terms of the

627
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,680
interest in just the two teams. I think, in my opinion,

628
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:33,640
it might just be that you know, it's Wemby versus

629
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,759
New York. I think that's maybe one of the things

630
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,920
that's been been the most interesting here. But so from

631
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,839
a so those are kind of nie the sports topics,

632
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,759
We're going to get into a little bit of sports cards.

633
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,079
One of the big sports card stories this past week

634
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:53,680
was the release of Top Series two for baseball. And

635
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,279
you know, I'll ask you Rich this first. I know

636
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,640
we were kind of talking about this before the show,

637
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200
a little bit about seria. You know, what were your

638
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,160
thoughts about series to any any insight here? What were

639
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440
you kind of thinking this week when this product released.

640
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,599
Speaker 4: Way back in twenty eighteen seventy, Top Series two for

641
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,599
about ten was the redheaded step child of the hobby.

642
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,000
Top Series one was always the most popular the release

643
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,240
each because there is a whole group of people who

644
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:23,400
every year buy something from Tops because they did that

645
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,440
as they get growing up and they still buy Tops

646
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720
and what did they buy Top Series? I mean, and

647
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,400
you still see that before Tops one, you'll see MLB

648
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:33,559
Network they break the packs up, the million card rips.

649
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,519
We've had all these things about the Top Series one

650
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,960
release that don't come out. Top Series I realized the

651
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,200
world had gene circ When our former teammate at Becket,

652
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,880
Dave'sill came up to domc Off we had in Dallas.

653
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,119
We're I'm looking at the checklist. This will be like

654
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,599
the last many years, this will be forty forty five

655
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,160
to fifty dollars. Not so much. You know, box prices

656
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,200
were starting to explode, And then I think I was

657
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,359
the same. I couldn't buy a heritage, you know. I

658
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440
waited for Herod's from seventy five to one T five

659
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,519
like that, and it was the same thing basically happened

660
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,839
where I expected it. Looking at the check this forty

661
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,400
five dollars and I'd have a good old time by

662
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,680
fifty or fifty five at an LCS not so much.

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
And now people look forward to Top series two like

664
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,119
it else, the Tops of all the little things. They've

665
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,279
been to it, and this is stuff at Reddit and

666
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,720
for that Tops it's now a very popular product to get.

667
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,279
I think it's actually still printed lesson. So I think

668
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,160
there's actually some hidden value in Tops, which I never thought.

669
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,759
But even at these levels, I think they're hidden value.

670
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And they added I think this they have

671
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,759
the short prints for JJ Weatherhole and Kevin McGonagall, and

672
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:42,759
those were two of the top five prospects going into

673
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,640
the season, along with Connor Griffin. And Connor Griffin he's

674
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,519
going to be in update. He's gonna Top Update later

675
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,920
on the year. Didn't unfortunately, didn't make his debut in

676
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,480
time for this product, but did make it in time

677
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:56,640
four TOPS Update. The other cool thing that they're adding.

678
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480
They did this for series one with that Mickey Mantle

679
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:02,480
the right in nineteen fifty two. They are going to

680
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960
do I believe it was a Hank Aaron and a

681
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:09,639
Jackie Robinson gradive redemption for in series two. I think

682
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,280
that they did something along the lines of it was

683
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,480
the top seventy five baseball cards of all time. Then

684
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,719
they picked some of the best cards and they're doing

685
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,320
greative redemptions here. So you know, doctor Becket, I'll ask

686
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360
you this question, is Series two is that enough for

687
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,880
someone like you to buy into Series two? Like, like,

688
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,559
what did you think about when you saw the you know,

689
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,519
the graded redemption concept that TOPS was coming out with.

690
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,679
Speaker 3: I think they're doing things that are trying to drive

691
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,199
interest in the product, and it is a separate product.

692
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,440
Series two for twenty twenty six Tops is a separate product,

693
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,159
but is it a separate set? Not really a separate set.

694
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,119
And yet when we were doing our price guides back

695
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:53,360
in the day, and when COMC is listing these is

696
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,920
sometimes they listed is list the you know, the car

697
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:01,840
the base cards there is as series two instead of

698
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,840
just twenty twenty six Tops. You know, when they're coming out,

699
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,960
it matters. But a few years later, whether something was

700
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000
from five years ago, whether it was series one or

701
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:12,920
series two, you could tell by the number, and sometimes

702
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,679
they have different inserts. But like Rich was saying that,

703
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,719
if you're wanting to put away like Rich does for

704
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,440
his nephew, I think or is you want to buy

705
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,400
the whole set, and the whole set is is series one,

706
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,400
Series two and probably the extended So but again the

707
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,159
marketing of it is this is series two. It's out

708
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,920
right now, it's got this great stuff in it. Jump in.

709
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,679
That's not the way a hobby anymore. So I wouldn't

710
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,599
you know, I'm really I have nothing against it. If

711
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,280
I got it. It makes a lot of sense to

712
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,239
do it that way because it keeps something fresh on

713
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,480
the shelves and with a different player composition, you you know,

714
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,519
you could get. I mean, there's stuff in there that

715
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:59,480
you couldn't get in series one. So I think it's

716
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,639
a good idea, but it's I don't don't. I don't

717
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,239
hobby in the moment that much. I guess. I guess

718
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,920
that The way I would say it is that I

719
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,320
appreciate what's going on on the court on the field,

720
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920
and I watch with interest, but I don't run out

721
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,039
and buy immediately. And if something is a brand new product,

722
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,599
I'm more likely to let it percolate. You know, when

723
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,719
I go to a show, if I see stuff interesting,

724
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,079
you know in the dollar boxes, I'll jump all over that. Newer,

725
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,320
the better there. But I've got to know if it's new.

726
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,400
It's the reason I haven't seen it is not just

727
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,960
because it just came out. It's because it has it

728
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,719
has to be a little bit tougher. Rich is always

729
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,119
admonished and not go for the base cards unless they're

730
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,280
sps or SSPs or back variations or things like that.

731
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,039
But so I read.

732
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 4: About the base cards. It's buying quantity. If you're buying

733
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,039
a card of a base card and a value box,

734
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,119
I'm fine with it. When you look at the Huggins

735
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,519
and Scottwalk and it's ninety eight percent base cards. That's

736
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:06,119
what I tell you not to buy though.

737
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: Rich, Rich, that was fourteen years ago. I have learned

738
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,199
by mistake, thank you very much. And I made an

739
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:20,800
additional mistake a few years ago. But my frequency of

740
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,199
mistakes is getting better.

741
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,639
Speaker 4: But I will point out one thing seeing the seering

742
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,000
broken out is the fresh the businesses because those get

743
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:35,119
discatch sent in because we want it comps very fresh

744
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,800
material and the and the way you get fresh material

745
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,519
is by doing a discount thereof and that that is

746
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,280
Jim is correct. It is part of the same set

747
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,280
you know when you buy. When I buy from my

748
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,119
great nephew, the factory set Series one in series two

749
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,960
is the sumpt is in there and the last three

750
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,440
prices on those sets, so it's very But Series one

751
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
in series two is broken up because that update has

752
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,119
always been broken because the numbering has.

753
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,079
Speaker 3: But com you know, it's not just the discount, it's

754
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,719
half off, and not only that, they have windows which

755
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,800
are a little bit confusing for me. So I've I

756
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,320
stay away from that, Rich, even though it's a fabulous

757
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,239
deal to get half price. Ingestion on I don't know

758
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719
is it is it this year's sets or things that

759
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,400
have been out less than three months, it's I don't.

760
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,360
I don't have the I don't. I always think it's

761
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,320
this year's cards, which again would would mean series one,

762
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239
Series two. They've all come out in twenty twenty six.

763
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,079
Speaker 4: I talked about the four that you sat and this

764
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,079
is for Jim. You sat on Zoom meeting about what

765
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,440
cards should be in the seventy five, Greatest and Redemption

766
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,000
during that meeting, and remind did they also say they

767
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,599
were great twenty five, twenty five seconds, certainty five up

768
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,079
or did they just talk about.

769
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: No, I didn't talk about that. That was It was

770
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,440
mainly to try to get the top, you know, the

771
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,920
seventy five, the top ten, and there was actually a

772
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,679
lot of time spent on the bottom ten. So it

773
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,280
was very fascinating in it. And I wasn't silent, but

774
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,880
I was one voice out of many, and it was

775
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:09,360
interesting and no one person was going to agree with everything,

776
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,599
but yeah, it was. It was in a list like that,

777
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,559
you're trying to have what it's not just done by value.

778
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:19,360
They were trying to have something for everybody and so

779
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,800
to spread it out, Yeah, that would.

780
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: Make sense right, yeap.

781
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: And so we're moving a little bit towards the latter

782
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:31,599
half of the show. Here we are within this past week.

783
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,280
Maybe I mentioned this before. Maybe I mentioned this before

784
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,719
the show. I forget we are fifty days less now,

785
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,000
less than fifty days away from the national So I

786
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:43,320
think it's good to, you know, remind people to get

787
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,000
yourself prepared, start thinking about the cards that you want

788
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,760
to buy, start thinking about, you know, what you're going

789
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,760
to be doing up the show, all these types of things,

790
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,880
and I think it's good to bring things back to

791
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,360
just collecting in general, and maybe not mentioned maybe not

792
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,199
talk about so much of the news. So you know,

793
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,800
doctor Beckett, I'll ask you this question about when you

794
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,360
are going to shows. I think this is something I've

795
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,039
been wondering for a while. Is like, you know, you

796
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,440
have seen millions, hundreds of me I don't know how

797
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,400
many cards you've seen in your lifetime. I mean, uh,

798
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,760
more than maybe potentially anybody really, So like when you're

799
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,039
going through either dollar boxes or you're going through people's showcases,

800
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,280
like what are some of the cards that you're looking

801
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,239
out for that you like to buy? That are you

802
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,400
know that are up to the standard of like the

803
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,760
Doctor Beckett collection, Like what are you kind of looking for?

804
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 3: It's hard to explain. I mean I think Rich understands that.

805
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,039
It's basically, you know, I don't want base basic cards,

806
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,559
you know, I don't want I don't even want you know, uh,

807
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,519
good cards of great players, if they're they're very very common.

808
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,519
I've said, anything that's in the dollar box is probably

809
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,800
because it's not gradable, and it's not what not able,

810
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960
So not something that's going to grab somebody. And so

811
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,239
I'm looking for the other stuff that's it's it's probably

812
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,639
more lower lower, lower supply and lower demand, Adam, and

813
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,760
that that's funny. Lower supply means I'm you're not going

814
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,800
to see it very often. Lower demand is the reason

815
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,679
why it's in the dollar box. Is if it's high

816
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:13,920
demand and low supply, it's wow. I mean it'll it'll

817
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,760
be a big price. Yeah yeah, And that's fun. So

818
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
I'm looking for things I haven't seen. Rich does that

819
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:25,199
to a different degree with his eye for the vintage stuff.

820
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,159
I'll do some vintage, but I already have I already have.

821
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,719
I actually yes, I have gone my manipulated you know,

822
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,159
through my dexterity or handled millions of vintage cards.

823
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's.

824
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 3: It never gets told, but it's it's still in the

825
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,679
in the dollar box, I'm looking for stuff that I haven't.

826
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: Seen, right right, Yeah, that's yeah, that's cool. That's I mean,

827
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,960
I'm kind of in a similar boat there with the

828
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,840
dollar box stuff. It's just kind of like random stuff

829
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,760
that I think is cool. I mean, like, I come

830
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,320
from the graphic design world, where like that's what I

831
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,760
got my my bachelor's degree in. Then I'm got my

832
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,880
master's in marketing, and so the graphic design was really

833
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,440
what drove me into sports cards, and then the market

834
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,679
kind of followed as a secondary thing, but it was

835
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,679
kind of all that stuff is just very interesting to me. So,

836
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,159
you know, Rich, I kind of ad one of the

837
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,360
same question for you, Like if so, go ahead, doctor.

838
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,039
Speaker 3: Let me finish. I mean, don't assume that that means, Adam,

839
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:19,719
I'm looking for.

840
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: Beautiful cards, right right.

841
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:25,199
Speaker 3: I like ugly cards too. In fact, sometimes low demand

842
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,880
cards are are are ugly, But if they're low supply

843
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,599
and low demand because they're ugly, I may still pick

844
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,559
them up because you know they're they're low.

845
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Supply, right, Maybe the unique, more unique right.

846
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Not every insert concept works equally well, some are body

847
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:47,960
or or.

848
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,079
Speaker 1: You know, primitive right exactly?

849
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: You know, Rich, I guess I'll kind of ask you

850
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,559
a similar question, like when you're going to shows, Like

851
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:56,440
you said, you just mentioned that you were you were

852
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,800
at a show recently like this past week or actually

853
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,199
maybe either maybe yesterday.

854
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,679
Speaker 4: It was yes today afternoon?

855
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what was it that you were like looking for?

856
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,239
I know you had mentioned to us before the show

857
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,039
that you spent your whole budget at the show, So like,

858
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,880
what was it that you were looking for or were

859
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,639
you looking for anything? And you kind of were just

860
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,079
going with the flow.

861
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: I go with blows. I don't look for things. Specifics

862
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,719
is so wide. I stayed. I stayed in the baseball

863
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,559
and I could have done and the best I'm going

864
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,159
to put in again air quotes bargain and I read

865
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,800
and I was fighting myself when I found there was

866
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,360
a twenty twenty six Heritage All Star that you know,

867
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,480
just because they used the same as twenty as nineteen

868
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,039
seven the tops and I knew there was an All Star.

869
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,159
No variation of Riley than when I'm going through the boxes,

870
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,800
Oh that's the All Star variation. Okay, I'm buying that,

871
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840
and I you know, and I think Beckett I priced that.

872
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,800
So that's very fresh and the bargain. The box had

873
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,559
a nice and the guy had a nice bold way

874
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,719
of a card, and I found twenty five cards and

875
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,320
he had broken the down cards cost me theeen dollars

876
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,400
and the Beckett book value, which I think is the

877
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,079
real value, and that is ten dollars. So I was

878
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,480
very happy with that card. I figured at this point everything.

879
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,360
But that's something I knew, you know, I get that

880
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,440
because Jim and I both have the ability to know

881
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:15,239
what we've not seen, and I recognized the meiate that's

882
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,320
a different design. Okay, that's that's a good card to me.

883
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:21,159
And both of us look for stuff we have and

884
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,039
sometimes we're wrong, and that's okay because when you're in

885
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,679
the value bock cost is minimal. In fact, I actually

886
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:29,360
had two pol yesterday. Our friends and you've gone to

887
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
his he has garage sales at his house. He's got

888
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,320
a nice house, he's rentings, full of bits with everything,

889
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,480
and we've both gone to his house during his garage

890
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:39,400
sale to buy car. And you know, he had a

891
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,960
box and some of this was a dollar you know

892
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,920
I'm looking okay, okay, it's a dollar. And I knew

893
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,559
there were some two thousand and seven gouty short ins

894
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,840
of Hall of Fame. They booked five or six dollars,

895
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,599
but I knew they were shorter. And he goes to me,

896
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:54,639
by the way, rich, any two dollars bar so, And

897
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,760
I bought those, even though the percent isn't great. It's like, okay,

898
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,679
I know those are shorter cards. I'm okay, yeah, And

899
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,320
that's what I And that's what you mean by go

900
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,679
with the flow. It's not like I'm looking for county

901
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,920
short prints from two thousand and eight. When I walk

902
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,480
into the Hall of Famers, they were short of it

903
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,760
was out of the brew. And I bought some other

904
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,639
things like them, thinking okay, this is the type of

905
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:18,800
stuff I like to buy it it's it's okay, it's

906
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
a base card, but it's a short print. And I

907
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,440
bought some of The guy who Jim and I knows

908
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,039
worked with done a lot of autographs, and he looked

909
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:29,679
through what I bought and I bought like in his

910
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,760
base because I didn't think I had one, And I

911
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,760
bought some Yamamoto based run I didn't have and they

912
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,920
are a sixty six. I don't buying BAS cards when

913
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,840
they're very solective. I don't want to buy huge lots

914
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400
of base I've gotten enough BAS cards over his donat.

915
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,760
I don't like sports, but I will deal with very

916
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,159
spec you know, Jim talked about this. He ended up

917
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,760
with a pallet of the cards from Nationals and but

918
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,480
he did very well with them and people. I had

919
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,559
two people I standing and the other guy asked me

920
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,199
how you buy? Why why are you buying? And I

921
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:01,239
explained the return on investments very good. Plus you know

922
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,440
with the inventory that it makes your eBay lots. You

923
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320
know it's just up the eBay lot, and that it's

924
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840
actually a good business model. And he's figured it out

925
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,239
what how to make it. I can't make it work

926
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,239
as well as he can, but he knows how.

927
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: To make it. So it's a return on enjoyment too.

928
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I and h less Again.

929
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,559
Speaker 3: I want to give a shout out to Rich because

930
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,280
it was almost it was almost exactly a year ago.

931
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,400
I think I think it was last may Or June.

932
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Rich said there's a garage sale that you've got to

933
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,400
come to. He told me who it was, and so

934
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,239
I went to the address. It was a twenty minute drive.

935
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,079
I get there and not only is the garage completely

936
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,920
the garage, it was completely full of cards, the two

937
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,000
car garage that there were tables out into the driveway. Okay, however,

938
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:56,840
here's the punchline. It was like a three or four

939
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,079
bedroom house. Every bedroom was full of cards.

940
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

941
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the kitchen was full of cards. It was it

942
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,079
was a house of cards. Literally. I don't you he

943
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,840
couldn't rent it out. I mean it's it's it's a

944
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,639
storage house for his for his his cards and there

945
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:21,519
everything was priced a little bit high, you know, but

946
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:26,000
but he made deals and so that was that was fascinating,

947
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:29,400
Thank you, rich. But he it must not have been

948
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,000
that successful because he hasn't done it for the next year.

949
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:36,599
Speaker 4: And I don't think Raymond's worked more than Raymond. Raymond

950
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,840
was alerting me, our friend, Raymond was alerting me. And

951
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,360
if Raymond works.

952
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:44,519
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and if anybody also, if anybody has any questions.

953
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,039
But if anybody has any questions here as we wrap up,

954
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,199
just drop him in the chat. Oh sorry, go ahead, Rich.

955
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,199
Speaker 4: No, it's just a cool house. Because everything it seems weird,

956
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:53,360
but everything will organized.

957
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, yeah, yeah, if if like I said,

958
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,199
like I was just saying, if you if any other

959
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,320
questions we're wrapping up here, make sure you drop dropped

960
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,599
some question in the chat. I thought this was an

961
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,679
interesting one that I kind of want to expand upon

962
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,280
a little bit. So, I mean, I'll ask you doctor

963
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,159
Beckett this, like, so you know, we've seen obviously whatnot

964
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,639
and I think TikTok shop and eBay Live and fanatics live,

965
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,599
a lot of the dollar auctions and these singles markets

966
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:18,400
are kind of I don't know, I don't I don't

967
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,320
know if I don't want to say necessarily driven by

968
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,159
a lot of these like cards that you can find

969
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,039
in dollar boxes. Like so I want to expand upon

970
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:29,760
this question here. Do have you seen a change in

971
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:34,960
cards that you're finding in those dollar boxes or like

972
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,000
what have you seen a change? I mean, I guess

973
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,920
that's maybe the question there for view doctor Beckett.

974
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely, people are smart. These live selling platforms really work, yea.

975
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,719
And if you're buying for a dollar or less and

976
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,000
you're starting something at ninety nine cents and you know

977
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,760
they're paying the postage and they're they're bundling and they're

978
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,800
having fun with it. Yeah, they're that stuff is not

979
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:57,880
in there as much a few years ago, three four

980
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
years ago, for sure, that was in there, that deal

981
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,079
that Rich was talking about, uh from from four years ago.

982
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,039
There was a lot of that stuff in there because

983
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,760
I bought I bought out the guy's whole whole thing,

984
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,079
and so there were a lot of bass cards in there.

985
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,559
But there are base cards of good players, and yes,

986
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:18,480
that does sweeten my my eBay. Lots that are by player,

987
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,480
but they're not tough cards, but they're they're nice looking,

988
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:24,880
they're good. But that not happening anymore. That's not happen anymore.

989
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Those cards. In fact, if it would be there on Thursday,

990
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:31,440
it won't be there on Sunday. And so there's a

991
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,280
lot of people that frequent the dollar boxes that go

992
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,360
by go by the player. And that's a tough way

993
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,480
to do it because you know, you're you know, well,

994
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,159
you just have to think I want these players. If

995
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,159
I see it, I'll pick it up. And a bunch

996
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,880
of people do that, but I don't. I don't. I mean,

997
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,440
I'm more likely to pick out the obscure.

998
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: Guy, right, Yeah, yeah, I think another another interesting go ahead.

999
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: You know, when we who has value dollar box of

1000
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,840
why Dallas cards show the other Kevin. So I'm alerting

1001
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,559
Gym to that, so he knows to be a canon.

1002
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,159
Uh is he usually doesn't see a card for a

1003
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,639
year after it comes out because he only buy. He

1004
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,280
isn't by waiting and then when it comes to and

1005
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,280
that's his value. He almost never has a current card.

1006
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,559
Speaker 3: And even when he buys collections, he's letting the smoke

1007
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:22,239
clear a little bit, yeah, which which is actually that's

1008
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,440
what I do with hockey. You know, if I get hockey.

1009
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,239
When I bought some hockey collections, I just set him

1010
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,440
aside for it, because hockey, you know, you gotta let

1011
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:35,239
let it percolate and see what young stars emerge and

1012
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,440
then bring it out gradually, Right, Phil.

1013
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,039
Speaker 4: The funniest and phantoms and sports is our friends. And

1014
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:44,320
one of the things is okay, See Kevin is one

1015
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,320
of three Kevins with value boxes at the Dallas card show. Kevin,

1016
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,599
you're thinking of Kevin, Yeah, this is a third Kevin's

1017
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:56,360
the Kevin who had the pod that's there any valuable,

1018
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,840
the Kevin who and there's a third Kevin who's local

1019
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,440
to Dallas. It's just it's amazing. There were three guys

1020
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,679
at the battles cards.

1021
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: All value Yeah right, yeah, like yeah small small. Sometimes

1022
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,480
you know, we we forget how small the world is.

1023
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:12,400
Sometimes where it just happens that, you know, the three,

1024
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,639
like you said, three Kevin's all are doing kind of

1025
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:17,400
the same thing. I thought this was also another interesting

1026
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,519
question here, And you know this is maybe I don't

1027
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,679
know if they're referencing any specific card. I know that

1028
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,719
like the Brunts and Silver has got it's more than

1029
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,840
Luca right now, Like the PSA ten Jalen Brunson Silver

1030
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Prison Rookie is more than what Lucas is. So how

1031
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,719
do you determine whether or not to sell a card

1032
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,559
that has exponentially exploded in a market like this? I mean,

1033
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:43,679
you know, I don't necessarily have as much experience buying

1034
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,559
and selling cards, but if you see a card going

1035
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,800
up in price, I think it's you know, you probably

1036
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,880
want to sell it. And I mean, doctor Beckett, I'll

1037
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,119
maybe I'll ask you this question, like I don't know,

1038
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:56,840
like the the selling of cards, is there like a

1039
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,880
percentage that you look at where you say, if this

1040
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,239
card goes up amount, I'm going to sell it? Or

1041
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,079
is it again. Is it maybe just similar to your

1042
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:04,679
dollar box, where it's just like you're just kind of

1043
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,960
going with the flow and it's just the feel of things.

1044
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: Guys again newsflast year. I am a hobbyist now, so

1045
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,800
I don't really think about that. I buy cards, I

1046
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,960
sell cards. I don't strategically. I guess I have some

1047
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,280
stuff that I've had for a long time that I

1048
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,280
don't want to sell. But it's not because it hasn't

1049
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,639
gone up. It's not because I think it's just because

1050
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:28,199
I like the card. So I am a hobbyist. If

1051
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:32,599
you're in business, though, the philosophy's of business. More people

1052
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,760
now want to get in and get out of stuff,

1053
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,639
want to take the profit. And that's not the way

1054
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:40,599
it was fifty years ago, but it is the way

1055
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:43,639
it is now. You see a lot more velocity of

1056
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,239
sales being important. But I don't think that's the industry.

1057
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,000
To me. The hobby is I just got this card.

1058
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:56,599
I'm enjoying it. You know, eventually I'll sell it. I

1059
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:59,840
have no coffin cards. They're going to be eventually sold.

1060
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1061
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: And then you know, like you said, you had fans

1062
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,559
in the stand sports says sell it when it's hot.

1063
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,159
I think that's you know, you can never You're never

1064
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,320
going to lose money in the sports card industry selling

1065
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,800
selling a card that went up. Also, want to give

1066
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,920
a shout out to Jeremy Lee saying, what's saying hello

1067
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:14,800
to everybody in the chat?

1068
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,159
Speaker 1: Rich?

1069
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess kind of similar question to you,

1070
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,519
is it like, uh are you are you kind of

1071
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,679
similar to doctor Beckett where you are just kind of

1072
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:24,119
feeling it. If you want to sell a card, you

1073
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:26,119
want to sell it. If not, it's not not something

1074
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,119
where you're like, there's a percentage that if it goes up,

1075
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:28,840
you're going to sell it.

1076
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,679
Speaker 4: Well, I've never I've never been that. Oh, for all

1077
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,519
I talked about, I was always a collector. I was

1078
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,880
never one of these guys out you know and somebody

1079
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,599
with five hundred eighty Jeffrey. I never did that type

1080
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:44,280
of market back. I'm not doing it today, but there

1081
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,760
are some First. Let me give a shout out, Jim.

1082
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,280
That was such a fun interest and fun discussion you

1083
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,159
had with Jeremy Lee and father's part of your father's

1084
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,599
I really enjoyed listen to the full backstory of both

1085
00:53:56,599 --> 00:54:01,320
of them. I had no idea Jeremy's rate. Jeremy's dad

1086
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,559
is very very well accomplished on his own. Apparently he's

1087
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:08,599
very well accomplished in the medicals. So the apple really

1088
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:10,320
didn't fall far from with Jeremy.

1089
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,039
Speaker 3: I got the second half of that coming on Monday

1090
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,280
because we talked for an hour and I whittled it

1091
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,480
down to thirty or thirty five minutes, and I probably

1092
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:25,239
cut to aggressively, but I know I've captured the essence.

1093
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,000
But you know, I had spent the weekend with Jeremy

1094
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,480
and Harvey when I was up at the Toronto Sports

1095
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,639
Expo and got to know Harvey a little better, and

1096
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,960
I thought, this is perfect, you know for the father

1097
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,079
son tradition that I've done for the last six years.

1098
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,320
So that was great. So they were good sports and

1099
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,199
I've got more coming after that, rich colleting some people

1100
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,639
you will know. So that's been a fun series.

1101
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: The Friday episode. When I saw the Friday episode, Okay,

1102
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:53,480
I know it's good because I believe in Jeremy Lee,

1103
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:56,320
who said when the episodes are more than fifteen minutes,

1104
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,599
those are the really good one. So we have that.

1105
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:03,239
I'm looking forward with a Monday and then when we

1106
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,800
were talking about there's an old standard you sell an

1107
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,360
upmarket into it. And one of the Rob Virus has

1108
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,360
said in the you know Burbank and has forty two

1109
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,519
in cards and doing just fine with I think he

1110
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:17,840
says he's got thirty five million. Is that he bought

1111
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,239
aggressive and he had the money in his family. His

1112
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,440
dad was great. But he bought aggressively during the ninety

1113
00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:27,000
five strike because he figured the market would come back.

1114
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,280
And my friend Teddy Straka said he made his business

1115
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,920
and he really developed during the same time again put

1116
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:37,239
capital into it instead of selling. He got aggressive as

1117
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,280
I can buy these cards, really let me and because

1118
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,360
the market will come back, but it's slow or not.

1119
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,239
And so it's the same principles selling to market. I mean,

1120
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,079
there are certain exceptions. You don't buy Wander Franklin right

1121
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:51,639
because Wander's career is basically done, you know, and it's

1122
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,800
a sad store. But that's that's an example where I

1123
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,480
don't think you know the overall level. If you have

1124
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:00,599
the player the great right you see twenty two, twenty three,

1125
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,599
and then the major slide down, it might be still

1126
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:05,760
worth it. If there are a top prospects to buy

1127
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,239
the card. And so you have that and so it's

1128
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,760
the same principle. I've never really done that, but that's

1129
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,119
one of the joys of value box. Do you see

1130
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:15,400
who's cold? Oh you're not.

1131
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:17,679
Speaker 3: Right?

1132
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: Not enymore at least yeah, right, yeah. I think that's

1133
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,239
kind of one of the Probably an interesting thing that

1134
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,760
you've seen, doctor Beckett, is the players that have come

1135
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,920
and gone from those dollar boxes. I mean, I bet

1136
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,480
you probably at one point that were Joheotani's in there,

1137
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,280
but when he was on the Angels, not so much

1138
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,840
when he's been on the Dodgers, because since he's been

1139
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,639
on the Dodgers, he's I think he's won the MVP

1140
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,800
or at least been in the MVP conversation every year.

1141
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,119
So it's probably interesting to see the differences, is the

1142
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:48,360
differences in the quality of players that are in there.

1143
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,559
And you know, like you, like you said, doctor Beckett,

1144
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:53,440
like with the rise of the live selling platforms, all

1145
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,280
of those players who maybe made it into dollar boxes

1146
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,760
are now just I mean, because essentially that's what you

1147
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,679
sort of are on these live platforms, is you're kind

1148
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,920
of looking through dollar boxes. I mean, if they're doing

1149
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,719
these fifteen second auctions, I mean, for you you're probably

1150
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,519
flicking through the cards pretty quickly, but like the fifteen

1151
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:12,400
seconds on one card, you know, there's a chance that

1152
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,480
you could get somebody good or you know, maybe you're

1153
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:16,920
just getting whatever you're looking for. But it's you know,

1154
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,039
it's it's definitely probably an interesting change in players that

1155
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,079
have been in those boxes.

1156
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: No, Adam, it's a it's a fifteen millisecond right, yes,

1157
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:32,079
price live selling platform. When I go to the dollar box,

1158
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,159
it's fifteen milliseconds, and I just make a pile these

1159
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:39,199
I want and usually have a pre arranged deal. If

1160
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,400
I get a huge pile I get, I get an

1161
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,519
additional discount, and so yeah, it's it's very impulsive. So

1162
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:48,320
I'm not timing the market. I'm just saying, is this

1163
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,679
a good deal right now? I'm not worried about well,

1164
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,800
this show is a little bit worse than the last one,

1165
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,199
or boy, things have really gone up. It's just it

1166
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:58,960
is what it is, and so it's it's my version

1167
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,880
of what except I'm not bidding. I'm only bidding. I'm

1168
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,039
only bidding in the sense there's a guy on my

1169
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:07,079
left and a guy in my right, and one of

1170
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,360
them is looking at stuff that I haven't seen yet

1171
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:13,000
and might take some stuff that I would have wanted. Yeah,

1172
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:16,360
but frequently they don't because guys, there's different.

1173
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:18,719
Speaker 1: Lanes right right, Yeah, I'm not really.

1174
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: Competing against anybody, and that's wouldn't you rather buy? Would

1175
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,280
you rather have less competition?

1176
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, right, exactly.

1177
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess this this this question. I

1178
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,480
feel like with our show. I feel like, hopefully our

1179
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show is a place where people can come and you know,

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share positivity within the hobby. I think, you know, it

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is tough. I mean, I think it's you know, when

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there's news or when there's things in the hobby, it's

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like everybody, you know, you're never gonna make everybody happy

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within the industry, and I think the loudest voices that

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sometimes can be the most negative. Unfortunately, I think positivity

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sometimes is not is not as loud as the negativity

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at times. So you know, I'm hoping that this show

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can be one of those places that people can come

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andind of the you know, talk about cards and enjoy

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enjoy stuff. Rich Sorry, Wretch, I think I cut you

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off there with.

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Speaker 4: The same value box and there'll be some cross but

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about ninety to what I pull out he and pulling

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out and about right. That's what he's saying, you know.

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And that's the thing. There's you know, the old saying,

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different stroke of folks, but different cards for different folks too.

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And that's just in the most of us in the

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value box world. It's amazing. There's a cadre of us

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at the Dallas most of us, and most of us

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stay out of each other's right. Nobody is super hyper aggressive,

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and usually if they're hyper aggressive, they calm down because

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they realize the rest of us aren't.

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Speaker 2: Going to tolerate right exactly exactly the hobby right.

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Speaker 4: You have to be the positive if you know them.

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You know the old saying contenters. Yes, negativity is great,

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but I hear wax packs, hero whatever really good. He

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does a Sunday around the hobby show. But he always

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specifies at the very beginning of if I'm telling you

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00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,960
something negative about the industry, that that does not mean

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that the hobby needs to be bad. If you enjoy

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01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,360
the hobby doing X y ors, this is just what's

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going on the industry. Your hobby level is different than

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the industry. We didn't have any industry week. I think

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the positive show about being, and you know, negativity sells

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,079
positivity self. You know, it's not sure, we're not sugarcoating it,

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01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:23,119
but to know good in the hobby, the hobby overall.

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I went to CC as I said a TCO last night.

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I will tell you most of the PTCG show are

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01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,760
friendlier than most sports car and it was fun and

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I chat with a few of them. I'll say, no, no,

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01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:35,599
I'm a sports car guy. I'm just here to learn

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01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:37,519
a little more about just to get a told drifted.

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But then they're fine with Okay.

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Speaker 3: Adam, let me speak to the negativity thing that Phil

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01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,679
Pierce brought up, and that is that negativity. I welcome

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01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,119
negativity if it's from somebody that's talking about their experience

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where they were personally burned, and if I was part

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01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:59,840
of that, then I'd want to know. But the negative

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01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:03,320
ants where the person didn't have any skin in the

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,800
game is that this shouldn't be that way or something

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01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,920
like that. That's different. That's different, and that's that's discouraging

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,480
people instead of saying if your negative, if your negativity

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is I did this and I got a bad deal

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01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,239
and I just I just want to vent. Okay, if

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there's enough specifics there where people can learn from that,

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01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,119
then that's fine, that's fine. But a lot of the

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negativity is anonymous negativity about rumors and things like that,

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and that I think that's what's not helpful.

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Speaker 2: Right, And well, I don't I don't mean to do

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,719
necessarily self promotion here, but I do feel like, you know,

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,400
if I am being negative in some type some type

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,920
of comment, some type of content, necessarily it's I think

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,400
that most of the time the negativity, at least from

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,760
my perspective, I try to at least give a solution

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01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,480
or something how I would fix the thing that was

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01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,760
wrong with whatever happened. I mean, I don't know. I

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,800
mean I think that there are you know, if if

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01:01:56,119 --> 01:01:59,440
you search for different content creators, you're gonna find people

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
who were pups, You're gonna find people who are negative.

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I think it's, you know, unfortunately, it's just it's an

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01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,000
industry where there's so much news and there's so much

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01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,239
stuff going on all the time that you know you'll

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01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,119
find I don't know, it's tough. It definitely is tough

1254
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:16,639
to find sometimes, but you know, it's it's you can

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01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:18,119
find it, I guess, And it's kind of maybe it's

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01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:20,360
harder to find at times, but I think that there

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are people who, you know, I think all of us

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on the panel here are you know, more towards the

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positive side of things, and rather than the negativity. We

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try to at least you offer a solution or we

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01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,679
offer some sort of different perspective on things. I think

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01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:37,119
then maybe some of the things that are just you know,

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01:02:37,159 --> 01:02:39,840
everything is bad, everything stinks, it's you know, it's sometimes

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01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,800
there's stuff like that, but I think you know, it's

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not always left for sure.

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Speaker 4: Give an example from when I worked for if somebody

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01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,960
came to the Beckett booth or to Beckett sucks, Bechtt

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is killing the hobby, the first response is you tell

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01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:53,719
us how we're doing it right. All they said, you

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01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,239
guys are just bleeping bleeping, we would ignore them. But

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01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,440
if the guys say, you guys are bleeping me because

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,920
you don't stand Jason like Jason Terry was, Grant Hill

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01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,320
should not be going to have a down arrow he's

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going to be rookie. That is a specific thing we

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,519
could really deal with. You know. If it was a

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01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,440
specific thing that was okay because they were saying, here's

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01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:17,280
your app and do a deeper dive. If you have

1278
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,639
to say, okay, you guys, this is why we have

1279
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:22,079
the hehicle, evidence why that card should have gone down

1280
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:26,519
or why not? Always very but if it's you guys

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01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:28,800
are killing the hobby. No, no, no, the hobby is still

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,760
here thirty two years later. We obviously did not give

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,280
a hobby off right right.

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Speaker 3: But to my earlier point, that person that's criticizing about

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01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:40,760
Grant Hill as a stash of Grant Hill. So a

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01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,480
lot of times if you were if you were to

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01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:46,559
declare your personal biases before you went into your negativity,

1288
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,039
then you'd have context. You say, Okay, well that's unfortunate,

1289
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:53,280
but that's not the We have an empirical price guide.

1290
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,320
If it's selling for a lesson the air, the eras

1291
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,960
go down. So we're kind about a time, So let's

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01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:02,079
leave some stuff for next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely here So yeah, we'll we'll just

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01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,159
go back around the horn one more time. Anything anything

1295
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:10,519
you want to promote doctor Beckett, anything you're looking to

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01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:12,039
what you got coming up for the week, you know,

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01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:13,559
anything you're looking to promote here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got Jeremy in the audience. I just want

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I want to promote my Monday podcast with Jeremy and

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,199
his dad. It's gonna be a lot of fun. And

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,239
as I think Mookie knows that Greg Miller is up

1302
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,079
on deck after that with his dad Michael, so nice.

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01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,360
And then I've got a couple more so I'll just

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01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,679
tease that. So I rarely promote, but since I'm preaching

1305
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:39,440
to the choir here, right, I'll let her rip. But thanks.

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01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:42,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, definitely go check definitely go check out

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01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:45,079
doctor Jen's podcast. Rich anything that you got coming up,

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01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:46,199
anything you want to promote.

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 4: Next Saturday, our next our synagogue, Labor Day remote next

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,800
Saturday from the Last Empire. They're having their grand opening

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,920
and I do a weekly and Lawrence the owner had

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:04,400
a showcase the two showcase of PSA of cards just

1313
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:06,280
for ps A A. I don't want to get in.

1314
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:09,679
That's not the cards there were, and those cards mostly

1315
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,639
at the at the of the grand open Saturday. Plus

1316
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,239
there's not that far from the meander my way up

1317
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,400
then Jim, there'll be a card show. There'll be at

1318
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,880
least one perth of value that I know there will

1319
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,559
his value box pretty good, he does. His value boxes

1320
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:25,480
have been Raymond, I'm sure there with his value and

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01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:27,840
I think that will be fun. And then the grand opening.

1322
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,519
I haven't tried to see how far away, but if

1323
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,280
it's a Denton card show and there's a store opening

1324
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,719
in Denton, it can't be that far. So that would

1325
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:37,239
make a fun hobby.

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep. And we'll be back here for episode

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01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,360
three ninety two on four Collectors Hobby Hotline. Like I said,

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01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,599
three ninety two, make sure you come back here. If

1329
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,519
you want to find my content, it's just Adam Drew

1330
01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:53,559
Palmer on you know, any platform, any content platform you

1331
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:56,679
can think of, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, all those places.

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01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:57,559
Speaker 1: So I want to.

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01:05:57,559 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: Say thank you to everybody for watching. Thank you everybody

1334
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,960
and comments. We will see you all next week. Thank

1335
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:09,639
you so much. I have a good one.

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01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: Thank you for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline.

1337
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,519
Just want to remind everyone we are a live show

1338
01:06:17,239 --> 01:06:21,960
every Saturday morning, eleven am Eastern eight am Pacific on

1339
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:26,880
the four Collectors channel on YouTube. That's the number four

1340
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:31,480
the word Collector's channel on YouTube. We hope to see

1341
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,519
many of you live on a future Saturday. We have

1342
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:38,480
a great interactive chat room and we always provide a

1343
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,519
link for anyone that wants to come on the show

1344
01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:43,639
and chop it up with us. So that's a reminder.

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:49,159
Every Saturday eleven am Eastern eight am Pacific, only four

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01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:53,440
Collectors channel on YouTube. Hope to see you on the show.