Speaker 1: Joining you and I now. By the way, Reds Baseball
Speaker 1: kicks off about six ten the night the Reds are
Speaker 1: in Atlanta with the Braves. But until then, more important
Speaker 1: events are transpiring Thursday and Friday. Joining you and I
Speaker 1: now is the Chief of Police of the City of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Chief Thiji held a news conference last week with Charmaine McGuffey,
Speaker 1: who's going to join us later and once again Chief
Speaker 1: of Police Fiji. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And first of all, Chief, can you tell me what
Speaker 1: you can about the events that transpire Thursday and Friday
Speaker 1: and what impact this has had on law enforcement, not
Speaker 1: just in Cincinnati or Hamley County, but throughout the tri State.
Speaker 2: Sure, thanks for having me, Bill.
Speaker 3: So as I reported out at the press conference on Friday,
Speaker 3: this was the first incident involved the stolen vehicle, where
Speaker 3: four individuals ran from the car, officers chased him. One
Speaker 3: was armed with a firearm and confronted an officer.
Speaker 2: The officer viewed.
Speaker 1: That hit was at the.
Speaker 3: Ryan Hinton's possession of the firearm as a threat, discharged
Speaker 3: his firearm and unfortunately mister Hinton succumbed to his injuries.
Speaker 1: You know, Lie circle the globe before before truth and
Speaker 1: take his first step. And some are saying in social
Speaker 1: media that there's not a clear video shot of actually
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton pointing his nine millimeter with an extended meg
Speaker 1: at the police officer, which was an event that took
Speaker 1: place probably in less than two seconds. Is it fair
Speaker 1: to say that there's not a direct video or a
Speaker 1: snapshot of Ryan Hinton actually pointing the weapon at the
Speaker 1: police officer? Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But you know, I will say, Bill, I think one
Speaker 3: of the most valuable tools in law enforcement in my
Speaker 3: career his the body worn camera. It has proven facts
Speaker 3: for us many many times in law enforcement all across
Speaker 3: the country. In this incident, we do not have a
Speaker 3: crystal clear still photo of mister Hinton pointing a firearm
Speaker 3: at the officer. However, what we do have is mister
Speaker 3: Hinton running from a vehicle with a.
Speaker 2: Firearm in hand.
Speaker 3: He stumbles, he still has the firearm in hand. He
Speaker 3: runs between the two dumpsters, comes out at the officer's
Speaker 3: position where the officers positioned, and once mister Hinton was
Speaker 3: sustained his injuries, the firearm was still in his possession
Speaker 3: and was located.
Speaker 2: Near his body. So while we may not have a
Speaker 2: crystal clear photo, we.
Speaker 3: Have the facts prior to his injuries and the facts
Speaker 3: after his injuries that support he was in fact armed.
Speaker 2: With a firearm.
Speaker 3: That along with the officer's interview that said he saw
Speaker 3: a firearm in mister Hinton's hand, pointed in his direction
Speaker 3: and he feared for his life and that's why he
Speaker 3: fired his weapon.
Speaker 1: Was there around in the chamber.
Speaker 3: That is all still up to for investigation. Bill, That
Speaker 3: is all still being handled by our criminalistics and the
Speaker 3: Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office. I'm not going to comment on that.
Speaker 1: Was there a second gun in the car that was
Speaker 1: stolen the Kia? Was the gun in the possession of
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton one of the two guns?
Speaker 5: That is correct?
Speaker 3: There was a second stolen firearm that whoever had that
Speaker 3: one when they ran from the vehicle, they left that
Speaker 3: behind inside the stolen Kia.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 1: Social media may say there's some purposeful intent not to
Speaker 1: show the moment where the weapon was pointed. As I
Speaker 1: understand it, we're dealing for how much time e laughs,
Speaker 1: from the time the officer said gun, gun, gun, and
Speaker 1: at that point you're trained to pull out your weapon
Speaker 1: at that point because gun gun gun means you're going
Speaker 1: to be in serious situation. How much time elaps from
Speaker 1: the time the officer said gun gun gun until the
Speaker 1: fatal shot was fired into the body of Ryan Hinton?
Speaker 1: Was it a short period of time?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Six seconds?
Speaker 1: Six seconds?
Speaker 6: That goes quick.
Speaker 1: And you referenced this Chief Thiji that I can recall
Speaker 1: many years ago, the police in Cincinnati did not like
Speaker 1: having body cams because it was saying, this is too
Speaker 1: intrusive in my life. Isn't it extremely valuable to be
Speaker 1: able to show the video almost in real time to
Speaker 1: demonstrate the actions of the police officers. Isn't this a
Speaker 1: critical element that shows the community that well exactly what
Speaker 1: happened instead of words on a page. Anyone can look
Speaker 1: at the video camp put themselves in the position of
Speaker 1: that police officer and say what would you do. Isn't
Speaker 1: the video cam I'm a critical part of this entire investigation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is, absolutely, it is critical. It shows as
Speaker 3: much of the story as we can tell, and then
Speaker 3: you have to add to that storyline the witnesses accounts
Speaker 3: of what happened, being in this case being the officers.
Speaker 1: And Chief Fiji as far as showing the video cam
Speaker 1: to the family In the past, that wasn't always done
Speaker 1: subject to a grand jury subpoena until all the information
Speaker 1: is out. Why did you and the city administration make
Speaker 1: a decision to show the video of the officer's bodycam
Speaker 1: to the family, including Rodney Hinton? Why was that decision
Speaker 1: made as opposed to waiting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, actually, Bill, this is something that Chief Isaac
Speaker 3: started when he was here, and it is a very
Speaker 3: difficult conversation to have with somebody's loved one to tell
Speaker 3: them the facts of what occurred and show them the video. However,
Speaker 3: as difficult as that conversation is, I think it is
Speaker 3: extremely valuable so that one the family doesn't start hearing rumors,
Speaker 3: that they hear facts from us first, and two that
Speaker 3: they do not for the very first time see.
Speaker 2: The footage on the local news.
Speaker 3: I would never want to be in that position as
Speaker 3: a mother or a wife, and I would never want
Speaker 3: to put anybody else in that position either. The least
Speaker 3: I can do for them is meet with them, offer
Speaker 3: my condolences and tell them what happened.
Speaker 1: You know, Monday back. Monday morning quarterbacking is always one
Speaker 1: hundred percent accurate Is there any sense that the father,
Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton. Media reports indicate that he left that meeting
Speaker 1: the next day quickly in a rage. Can you comment
Speaker 1: on whether or not the father expressed outrage at the
Speaker 1: killing of a son by the police officer or you
Speaker 1: present for them.
Speaker 3: I was there when mister Hinton left the room. I
Speaker 3: did not see him or view him in any type
Speaker 3: of a rage.
Speaker 2: He stepped out.
Speaker 3: It was a difficult conversation to hear. You know, his
Speaker 3: son was no longer with him, and so it was
Speaker 3: a very difficult conversation for him to hear, and he
Speaker 3: chose to leave the room, which is understandable.
Speaker 1: Did he express outrage of the police for killing his son.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into that now, Bill, because
Speaker 3: this is still an ongoing investigation, and I'll just leave
Speaker 3: it at that.
Speaker 1: Wait, was there you had no sense that this meeting
Speaker 1: with the family that something ugly was about you. He
Speaker 1: didn't express any verbal threats against police when he left
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not going to get into anything that occurred
Speaker 3: inside that room other than the fact that we shared
Speaker 3: the video with them in the facts of the incident.
Speaker 1: All right, Chief teats you what message would you give
Speaker 1: to the community at large, because these are difficult days.
Speaker 1: I would assume the funeral of Ryan Hinton's going to
Speaker 1: happen in the next few days. I would assume the
Speaker 1: funeral of a Deputy Sheriff, Larry Henderson, who gave his
Speaker 1: life for all of us, is going to be held.
Speaker 1: What message would the Chief of Police of Cincinnati give
Speaker 1: to the community.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually I have several messages, Bill. One is I
Speaker 3: offer my condolences both to the Hinton family as well
Speaker 3: as Deputy Henderson's family. No matter what you think of
Speaker 3: these incidents, people lost individuals who they loved and that
Speaker 3: is extremely unfortunate. The other message that I have is
Speaker 3: asking for calm in our city, asking for calm, Let
Speaker 3: the emotions that your emotions aside and let this play out,
Speaker 3: let the investigations play out. And then thirdly, Bill is actually,
Speaker 3: you know, these were young individuals in a stolen car
Speaker 3: with at least one stolen firearm, and you know, the
Speaker 3: police this is what we've encounter way too often nowadays,
Speaker 3: way too often, and so I think it's incumbent upon parents, guardians,
Speaker 3: whomever to know what the youth are getting into. Where
Speaker 3: are they, what are they doing, who are they with?
Speaker 3: And just be more present and try to stop this
Speaker 3: type of behavior by our youth.
Speaker 1: Lastly, about a minute remaining, Chief Thji. Wearing the uniform today,
Speaker 1: it's always difficult. None of us put forth the risk
Speaker 1: of life or death by wearing a particular uniform, unless
Speaker 1: you're a police officer, unless you're FBI deputy sheriffs. As
Speaker 1: someone that's worn the uniform now for about thirty years,
Speaker 1: I would assume as we speak this Monday afternoon, you
Speaker 1: have the uniform arm you have to since I police
Speaker 1: uniform on your body, do you feel targeted? Do you
Speaker 1: feel different today than you've felt pre to Friday about
Speaker 1: being targeted because of the uniform that you wear.
Speaker 2: I personally do not feel targeted.
Speaker 7: Bill.
Speaker 3: I am very very proud to put this uniform on
Speaker 3: it every day. I love what I do for the
Speaker 3: men and women of CPD and for this city.
Speaker 2: However, it is.
Speaker 3: A tough time emotionally for everybody who has some involvement
Speaker 3: in this and you know, for our city, this is
Speaker 3: tragic incidents that happened back to back. It's difficult to
Speaker 3: handle one tragic incident, let alone two.
Speaker 2: But you know, our officers are extremely resilient, extremely professional,
Speaker 2: and we will take care of public safety business every
Speaker 2: day moving forward.
Speaker 1: Chief Thichi, thanks for coming on. Social media is a
Speaker 1: blaze with threats against police. I think having your eyes
Speaker 1: on a swivel is important today and tomorrow and throughout
Speaker 1: the rest of this week, always it should be. But
Speaker 1: once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 1: Chief the GI and I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Thanks Bill, Let's continue with more. That's the Chief of
Speaker 1: Police of course of Cincinnati holding a news conference, and
Speaker 1: the city's position these days are to release the body
Speaker 1: cam immediately, and of course, when the father saw the
Speaker 1: video cam within twenty four hours of his son's death,
Speaker 1: in my view, he went out seeking to murder a
Speaker 1: police officer literally ran in Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson. Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham, and
Speaker 1: we'll continue to follow the events and involving the murder,
Speaker 1: the purposeful killing of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson on Friday
Speaker 1: at the hands of the father of the perpetrator, who
Speaker 1: was shot by Cincinnati police officer at being thirty eight
Speaker 1: year old Rodney Hinton, the father, and I would note
Speaker 1: that I have a media availability here put out by
Speaker 1: the Cochrane Law Firm that the mother and the maternal
Speaker 1: grandmother of Ryan Hinton, he's the eighteen year old who's dead,
Speaker 1: will address the media alongside their legal team today at
Speaker 1: three pm. And over the weekend, the attorneys for the
Speaker 1: state of Ryan Hinton, He's the eighteen year old dead,
Speaker 1: issued a statement expressing the family's heartfelt condolences to the
Speaker 1: family and colleagues of the officer who was killed in
Speaker 1: the incident involving Ryan Hinton's father on Friday. And I've
Speaker 1: had on before Michael Wright, he's one of the attorneys
Speaker 1: with the Cochrane Law Firm. Have a call in to
Speaker 1: him to join you and I at some point today
Speaker 1: or tomorrow to talk about the representation of the estate
Speaker 1: of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton. I'm sure in the
Speaker 1: beginning there was a suspicion that the officers had done
Speaker 1: something wrong, which is always the go to position of
Speaker 1: many liberals simply have blamed the police officer and a
Speaker 1: life and death, split second situation, What decisions were made,
Speaker 1: what decisions were not made, and after the News. I'm
Speaker 1: going to break down the possible charge against the three
Speaker 1: that remained, which is Darrell Austin, eighteen years old, and
Speaker 1: de Anthony Bullocks who's nineteen, and Sincere Grisby who's eighteen,
Speaker 1: that was in court this morning. So we're going to
Speaker 1: break that down for you later on about what could happen,
Speaker 1: what might happen. But also at this point, I think
Speaker 1: the new prosecutor's office in Amley County have a big
Speaker 1: decision to make, and a little birdie told me they're
Speaker 1: going to seek a death penalty specification against the Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: who's the thirty eight year old father of Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: who was in possession of the nine millimeter extended meg
Speaker 1: weapon that was in his right hand when he was
Speaker 1: killed by a police officer in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: His name not yet been released, the police officer's name,
Speaker 1: but one that gets out there in some sense, oh
Speaker 1: hell might break loose. I would note that I had
Speaker 1: met Larry Henderson a couple times at various Sheriff's events.
Speaker 1: I often do events of that character with the police
Speaker 1: or with Rob Sanders' office, or Charmage mc guffey or
Speaker 1: sy Lease or Sean Donovan's office or what's happening in
Speaker 1: Butler County. And I wouldn't note that Larry Henderson had
Speaker 1: a distinguished thirty three year career Hamny County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 1: He had an expertise. He was a trainer. He trained
Speaker 1: entire divisions of the office that included hundreds of deputy sheriffs.
Speaker 1: He related very well to others. He also was an
Speaker 1: academy instructor, a dive team member. He was also part
Speaker 1: of the SWAT team. Larry Henderson also was on the
Speaker 1: FBI Task Force and is on the bomb unit. And
Speaker 1: so it's amazing and so said that Larry Henderson went
Speaker 1: through thirty three years of service and the most dangerous
Speaker 1: part of the Hamley County Sheriff's Department, which is a
Speaker 1: bomb unit and the SWAT unit with the FBI, a
Speaker 1: dive team member, and he met his maker at the
Speaker 1: hands of a deranged murderer, a cold blood, a killer
Speaker 1: named Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old father who
Speaker 1: left the scene of seeing his son killed when the
Speaker 1: video was shown to seek out to murder a police
Speaker 1: officer wherever one could be located. Let's continue with more up,
Speaker 1: breakdown some of the criminal charges available to all right
Speaker 1: after the news Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred ww hi,
Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great American And let's continue now. And
Speaker 1: I said, let's break down some of the possible charges
Speaker 1: that might be happening and what happened in this case.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the fact that there may be
Speaker 1: a video in Northern Kentucky and Edgewood of the key
Speaker 1: of being stolen. Is there a video or not? According
Speaker 1: to my sources in Northern Kentucky, they're examining it. They
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that question. Why is that relevant?
Speaker 1: Because if one person heisted the Kia and picked up
Speaker 1: the other three, did the other three know or of
Speaker 1: reason to believe that the key had been stolen? Because
Speaker 1: grand theft is one thing, rsp Receiving stolen properties another
Speaker 1: Many times a thief is in possession of stolen property,
Speaker 1: but he's not the one that stole it. Be new
Speaker 1: or should have known he was in possession of stolen property.
Speaker 1: That's a different issue. Do we know to answer that question?
Speaker 1: The answer is no, we don't know. Do we have
Speaker 1: a video in Edgewood, Kentucky of four individuals stealing the
Speaker 1: Kia one, two or three, we don't know. And then
Speaker 1: the clothing Allegedly it happened within a few hours of
Speaker 1: the theft, and so the clothing would probably be the same.
Speaker 1: So you don't need a clear shot of a face
Speaker 1: if you have a certain kind of clothing or marks
Speaker 1: on the body of a thief that was wearing blue
Speaker 1: jeans and they have a sweater on short sleep, so
Speaker 1: you can hook that up. That takes a little bit
Speaker 1: of time. So stay with me on this. So let's say,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, Kias and Hundi's are are the
Speaker 1: items of choice to steal because of their easy self
Speaker 1: ignition system, which I think has been corrected. I hope
Speaker 1: it's been corrected. But if you're a thief, if you're
Speaker 1: a crook and you want to use that car for
Speaker 1: shall we say, future ventures, which is running into a pawnshop,
Speaker 1: are using it in some other sort of armed robbery,
Speaker 1: they can't identify you as the perpetrator through the car.
Speaker 1: But those who do these things understand they can't keep
Speaker 1: the car for a long time. You can't like drive
Speaker 1: around the car for a week or two anticipating no
Speaker 1: one's going to pull you over, because those license plate
Speaker 1: and the readers are everywhere right now in which you
Speaker 1: can determine that. So is it reasonable assume, therefore, that
Speaker 1: those who stole hoisted this Kiya in Edgewood, Kentucky had
Speaker 1: the intent on Thursday to commit some other offense and
Speaker 1: use that vehicle to commit it, whether it was a robbery,
Speaker 1: a burglary, drive by shooting, a drug deal, or running
Speaker 1: into a pawnshop and hoisting a bunch of guns out
Speaker 1: of that pawn shop. That's a reasonable assumption to make.
Speaker 1: Those in this business do not steal the cars and
Speaker 1: then drive them around for weeks or months. No, they're
Speaker 1: used to commit other offenses. So can we make a
Speaker 1: reasonable assumption that either Ryan Hinton or Jarrell Austin or
Speaker 1: de Anthony Bullocks or since here Grigsby they're all eighteen
Speaker 1: or nineteen years old, knew each other. Of course, good
Speaker 1: investigation will demonstrate the relationship they had to each other.
Speaker 1: Number two, who was the one of the four that
Speaker 1: actually stole the car? Stole the Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky?
Speaker 1: All three or not? Did all three get picked up
Speaker 1: later by the thief or not? And what was the
Speaker 1: intent to use that Kia to do what the joy
Speaker 1: ride to commit an armor robbery, and that was in
Speaker 1: furtherance of a greater felonious conspiracy. You got that issue
Speaker 1: sitting out there. In this particular case, the Edgewood, Kentucky
Speaker 1: owner had a tracking device on his Kia. He hit
Speaker 1: nine to one one. They put it out and it
Speaker 1: was located because of a tracker and the parking lot
Speaker 1: of an East Price Hill condominium project, as I understand
Speaker 1: them from the topography Google Earth, there is one way
Speaker 1: up the hill and one way out, so when you
Speaker 1: go in there, you may have certain aspects of privacy
Speaker 1: because there's no way in, only one way in and
Speaker 1: way out. And these four individuals when they parked there
Speaker 1: for an hour or two, god knows what they were doing,
Speaker 1: probably smoking pot or whatever, had apprehensions that the police
Speaker 1: units rolled up there because of the tracker device, so
Speaker 1: they were specifically looking for that vehicle and it showed
Speaker 1: to be in an East Price Hill parking lot, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is committing a crime across state lines
Speaker 1: therefore becomes an FBI becomes a federal matter. You go
Speaker 1: when you go across state lines to commit offenses. Some
Speaker 1: were committed one state, some were committed in the other.
Speaker 1: There's going to be multiple charges filed. If these four
Speaker 1: individuals all were involved in the heightst of the vehicle
Speaker 1: in Edgewood, that's different than if only one had done it.
Speaker 1: But I regressed just to bit. Let's go into the
Speaker 1: parking lot and thinking of what the prosecutor's office and
Speaker 1: the police are now thinking. Is the following When the
Speaker 1: four individuals were there and the police cars rolled up,
Speaker 1: the police did not have their weapons drawn until the
Speaker 1: word gun, gun gun had been had been expressed by
Speaker 1: one of the police officers. From start to finish, the
Speaker 1: whole event took about six seconds from the time you
Speaker 1: hear one CPD officer yell gun, gun gun. When that happens,
Speaker 1: that is the message to his fellow officers, pull out
Speaker 1: your service weapon because the alleged perpetrator is armed. And
Speaker 1: how did they know he had a gun Because as
Speaker 1: he got out of the car, that is Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: you can see in the video that he tripped and fell.
Speaker 1: He might have followed because the extended meg of the
Speaker 1: nine millimeter hit his hip and so he fell. At
Speaker 1: that point, Ryan Hinton had a quick decision to make.
Speaker 1: Number one, he was involved in grand theft auto at
Speaker 1: a maximum, receiving stolen the property at a minimum. Number two,
Speaker 1: he was in possession of a nine millimeter I would
Speaker 1: think illegally. You just heard Chief Thiji say that one
Speaker 1: of the two weapons found there was illegal and the
Speaker 1: other one might have been there still going through at
Speaker 1: to determine zero numbers, et cetera. So when the four
Speaker 1: exited the car, there were two guns in the car
Speaker 1: and only one was taken by one of the so
Speaker 1: called defendants that was Ryan Hitton. He had to make
Speaker 1: a decision. Number one, am I going to run? In
Speaker 1: today's world, if the four or any of them would
Speaker 1: have got out of the car put their hands up,
Speaker 1: that would have been the end of it. They'd be
Speaker 1: out of prison, they'd be out of jail within the
Speaker 1: next six to eight hours. Nothing would have come of it,
Speaker 1: zero zilch nod. It would not have occurred because in
Speaker 1: today's world, auto theft is not considered to be that
Speaker 1: big a deal. But they made the decision not to
Speaker 1: do that because they had consciousness of guilt. That means
Speaker 1: that likely the three who are still alive knew they
Speaker 1: had committed some felonious act the result of which they
Speaker 1: wanted to have scowned the jurisdiction. Get the hell out,
Speaker 1: And so one might say what Number one, Ryan Hinton
Speaker 1: made the decision when he left the car not to surrender,
Speaker 1: But he made the conscious decision to pick up a
Speaker 1: deadly weapon with him, that is the nine millimeter with
Speaker 1: an extended mag One can reasonably assume that was and
Speaker 1: that was his his weapon, his handgun. And so when
Speaker 1: he left the car, he made the decision number one
Speaker 1: not to surrender. Number two, he made the decision to
Speaker 1: take with him an armed handgun with an extended meg
Speaker 1: a projectile in the chamber as police officers in uniform
Speaker 1: as saying stop, stop, stop stop. When he fell, one
Speaker 1: officer yells not the one who shot Hinton. One officer
Speaker 1: yells gun, gun, gun, which is the key word to
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Prepare yourself. At that point, all four throughout
Speaker 1: their weapons. From that point he Hinton had to make
Speaker 1: a third decision. Number one, do I surrender? Answer is no.
Speaker 1: Number two? Do I take the nine mill with me
Speaker 1: for use? That's two I think two and a half
Speaker 1: chamber around the Fiji did not comment on but I
Speaker 1: was told there was a amo in the chamber ready
Speaker 1: to fire and the safety was off. Then number four
Speaker 1: when he fell, he had a decision to make. I
Speaker 1: have officers with their guns almost ready to be drawn. However,
Speaker 1: when the word gun, gun, gun came out, he then
Speaker 1: armed himself, picking up the weapon from the pavement. One
Speaker 1: didn't surrender. Two exits the vehicle. Three nine milimeter extended
Speaker 1: meg with him. Four drops the nine millimeter on the pavement,
Speaker 1: five picks it up and then continuing to run. And
Speaker 1: at that point the fatal sixth part of this thing occurs,
Speaker 1: which is according to the police officer, in between the
Speaker 1: dumpsters as he exit, he perceived, and this is an
Speaker 1: important word, he perceived that Ryan Hinton pointed that weapon
Speaker 1: at him that the officer knew was a nine millimeter
Speaker 1: with an extended mag That officer was within a split
Speaker 1: second of being killed, along with many others, much as
Speaker 1: Sonny Kim was killed in Madisonville. Shall I say unexpectedly
Speaker 1: went there on a fake nine to one one call.
Speaker 1: The officer made a split second decision. Now, when you
Speaker 1: watch the video tape, which I've watched repeatedly, maybe fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty times, at no point to the public. Has
Speaker 1: the video tape shown the right hand of Ryan Hinton
Speaker 1: with the weapon contained their end pointed at the officer.
Speaker 1: FIJI uses the word perceived. It's critical and law enforcement.
Speaker 1: They don't have to prove to an extent that the
Speaker 1: weapon was actually pointed at the Cincinnati cop. What a
Speaker 1: reasonable police officer in those circumstances anticipate a threat to
Speaker 1: himself or others of deadly force being used against him
Speaker 1: and his fellow officers. How many split seconds would it
Speaker 1: have taken for the right hand of Ryan Hinton to
Speaker 1: change the position of his nine millimeter from one direction
Speaker 1: to the other. It would have taken one tenth of
Speaker 1: one second to be in position to kill several Cincinnati
Speaker 1: police officers. Why does an eighteen year old have a
Speaker 1: nine millimeter? I would suggest to you it'll be discovered
Speaker 1: later illegally with an extended magazine and one extra magazine.
Speaker 1: Why what's the purpose for that? And when the shot
Speaker 1: was fired? You might remember I had on last week
Speaker 1: Ken Kober who said the round was fired into the
Speaker 1: chest of Ryan Hinton about ten feet away from the officer,
Speaker 1: and the second shot was fired to hit an arm
Speaker 1: and he quickly. He died at the scene. So who
Speaker 1: was in charge of this event, whose behavior brought the
Speaker 1: officers to him, and whose behavior continued the event that
Speaker 1: could have resulted in his stead. That was Ryan Hinton.
Speaker 1: And do I grieve his loss? The Vice mayor of
Speaker 1: our city, Jean Michelle Kearney, is grieving the loss of
Speaker 1: this eighteen year old teenager. Yes, but whose behavior calls
Speaker 1: it to occur the eighteen year old teenager? It's his behavior.
Speaker 1: Now as far as the other charges against the three
Speaker 1: that remains, Durell, Austin and de Anthony Bullocks and Sincere Grigsby,
Speaker 1: they're going to try to flip one or two of
Speaker 1: them to say what happened in the car, Who said
Speaker 1: what to who, who was in possession of the guns?
Speaker 1: What was the intent of stealing the Kia in the
Speaker 1: first place. It was not going to be used to
Speaker 1: drive to Michigan or to Pensacola. It was going to
Speaker 1: be used to commit other crimes, which is a regular event.
Speaker 1: And if you have one of the living co defenders
Speaker 1: to testify, then that's a different circumstance, one might argue.
Speaker 1: And I brought this up with Fiji Chief Isaac who
Speaker 1: went to Detroit had a policy of showing the bodycam
Speaker 1: as soon as possible to the family. When all these
Speaker 1: issues arose many years ago. I can recall Dan Hills
Speaker 1: and others not locking the idea that the police are
Speaker 1: going to have body cams. Well, guess what he now
Speaker 1: flips completely on the issue because it shows the cops
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the time want the bodycam to
Speaker 1: demonstrate what happened. Imagine if we did not have the
Speaker 1: body cam right here, what would be happening with Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: the family member and other they're going to help nose
Speaker 1: comments three o'clock. Nobody would have believed what the officers
Speaker 1: had to say. But a reasonable cop in a reasonable
Speaker 1: position perceived a danger to himself and others and shot
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton. It is not necessary that they prove the
Speaker 1: gun was directly pointed at the police officers. Did the
Speaker 1: officer perceive a threat to himself and to his fellow
Speaker 1: officers and did he proceed? The answer is yes, he
Speaker 1: did proceed and his behavior is quite reasonable. Should the
Speaker 1: videotape have been shown twenty four hours later, according to
Speaker 1: the Chief Fiji, began by Chief Isaac would get it
Speaker 1: out as soon as possible. There is a theory that
Speaker 1: it's better to wait till all the investigative elements come together.
Speaker 1: Is there a video tape in Edgewood, Kentucky showing who
Speaker 1: who stole the Kia? Are there videotapes on the condo
Speaker 1: project in ease price sale that demonstrates more the whole picture.
Speaker 1: Have you downloaded all the video cams of the other
Speaker 1: officers involved? Do you have any witness statements that might
Speaker 1: be available? Do you have the entry point of the bullet?
Speaker 1: Did the bullet enter directly? Was at an angle? Was
Speaker 1: it directly head to head? According to ken Kober, he
Speaker 1: was shot in the chest. Now the chest you know,
Speaker 1: was on the left side of the right side. Did
Speaker 1: he turn his body toward the officer or was he
Speaker 1: at an angle to the officer see the gun? By
Speaker 1: the way, the gun was located at the scene and
Speaker 1: the coroner's office and others will demonstrate that the decedent,
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton, I would imagine his fingerprints are all over
Speaker 1: that gun. They can show it's his gun at least
Speaker 1: in possession. And some some have said that the city
Speaker 1: should wait until all the investigative issues come together, as
Speaker 1: one until they decide what to do. But within twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, the video is shown to the father, Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: and Chief Thiji was there. She did not seem to
Speaker 1: indicate and my questioning of her about forty five minutes
Speaker 1: ago that when Rodney Hinton left the father, he did
Speaker 1: not express too many feelings that he was about to
Speaker 1: kill a police officer, and she did not relate that
Speaker 1: as being being the situation. And so illegally possess a
Speaker 1: handgun in Ohio, you got to be twenty one years
Speaker 1: old to do that. And obviously these individuals committed various felonies,
Speaker 1: and I would strongly suggest to you that they had
Speaker 1: other designs for this kid to be used. Later, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we
Speaker 1: have one of the candidates for mayor of our city
Speaker 1: going to be with you and I to talk about
Speaker 1: what's happening. What's going on. That's Corey Bowman. I have
Speaker 1: calls out to Michael Wright and others. Later this week,
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's going to join you and me, Charmaine McGuffey,
Speaker 1: to talk about it. I would anticipate it's going to
Speaker 1: be a rough week for law enforcement, and they were
Speaker 1: innocent parties of this. And Ryan Hinton is not an
Speaker 1: his innocent party, He's a fully guilty party who I
Speaker 1: was told has an extensive juvenile criminal record that he
Speaker 1: never was dealt with adequately. He turns eighteen, is no
Speaker 1: adult record. But the fact he possessed a handgun illegally
Speaker 1: and was certainly involved in the theft of the Kia,
Speaker 1: and this indicates to me that he was in some
Speaker 1: sort of felonious misbehavior. An eighteen year old should now
Speaker 1: be graduating from high school, not dead because of his
Speaker 1: felonious criminal misbehaviors. Well, let's continue with more and if
Speaker 1: Lyne becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live, it's term of the
Speaker 1: Reds playing tonight in Atlanta about seven ten. Ever time
Speaker 1: of about six ten, it's termed the Reds. News Radio
Speaker 1: six WLW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome this
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon in the tri State. There are fast moving
Speaker 1: developments in the murder of my Hamlety County Deputy Larry Henderson,
Speaker 1: and also what's happening to the father of Rodney Hinton.
Speaker 1: Also this morning, one of the four individuals involved in
Speaker 1: the auto theft sincere Grisby eighteen years old, was arraigned
Speaker 1: in municipal court. At this point, all of them are
Speaker 1: locked up pending further action, and tomorrow there's going to
Speaker 1: be another legal proceeding with Rodney Hinton, who is the
Speaker 1: father of the eighteen year old, the attempted murderer of
Speaker 1: a police officer who's dead, and what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with his bond, etc. This will be a big moment
Speaker 1: for the New Hamlet County prosecutor whether or not there's
Speaker 1: going to be a speck which means death penalty specifications,
Speaker 1: because one of the statutes in Ohio provided that you
Speaker 1: intentionally murder a police officer, that you're quickly eligible for
Speaker 1: the death penalty. I think many in law enforcement would
Speaker 1: like to see that used, but unfortunately Governor Mike DeWine
Speaker 1: has not signed any death warrants for anyone at this point.
Speaker 1: He's more or less verbally in favor of the death penalty,
Speaker 1: but in practice opposes it, I think on religious grounds
Speaker 1: and whatever that turns out to be, that's down the road.
Speaker 1: But Joanan, you and I now is Corey Bowman. He's
Speaker 1: running for mayor of the City of Cincinnati. In fact,
Speaker 1: the primary is tomorrow. We've invited on the other two candidates,
Speaker 1: waiting to hear back from them. But Corey Bowman, welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: give me your reaction to the murder of Deputy Sheriff
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson and what the city should do. At this point,
Speaker 1: I would point out that the Vice Mayor, Lemon Kearney
Speaker 1: has issued a statement saying, quote, this is from Jan
Speaker 1: Michelle Kearney, who's the vice mayor. Our community is grieving
Speaker 1: for the eighteen year old young man whom we lost
Speaker 1: too soon and the Hamley County sheriff who was killed
Speaker 1: today in the line of So first of all, as
Speaker 1: the purported city leader in the future, what is your
Speaker 1: reaction to the events which took place on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 6: Well, Bill, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a definitely a point in our city
Speaker 4: to where many people are affected. And I issued a
Speaker 4: statement today basically stating that my first response to all
Speaker 4: this last week was to pray. I called a prayer
Speaker 4: meeting at our church in the West End and we
Speaker 4: just prayed for the city, pray for all those involved.
Speaker 4: But the first thing that we want to do is
Speaker 4: extend our condolences to the friends, the family members, and
Speaker 4: the colleagues of Deputy Larry Henderson. That was a tragic
Speaker 4: thing that happened. He lost his life on Friday.
Speaker 6: It should not have happened.
Speaker 4: And we have to focus on what is happening with
Speaker 4: the sheriffs and all those involved that they're encountering something
Speaker 4: that's extremely difficult. I've talked with many people, even in
Speaker 4: the Cincinty Police Department that are they've encountered very long
Speaker 4: nights the last few days. We have to show unrelenting
Speaker 4: support for our local police officers and for our deputy
Speaker 4: and our county sheriffs and to be able to see
Speaker 4: what's going on. If you truly have a heart for
Speaker 4: the city, if you truly have a heart for our communities,
Speaker 4: and your heart breaks for what's happened over the last
Speaker 4: three days.
Speaker 6: This can't be a political point. I know we have an.
Speaker 4: Election tomorrow, but this can't be a political game. This
Speaker 4: has to be something to where we realize this life
Speaker 4: should never have been taken.
Speaker 6: This should not have happened. And I think that to.
Speaker 4: Turn this around to why we are running in this race,
Speaker 4: you have to have a culture set in place to
Speaker 4: where the police are honored and supported.
Speaker 6: In our city.
Speaker 4: And if you do not have that at the forefront
Speaker 4: of your administration, then they are always going to be
Speaker 4: seen as the bad guys. And you're going to encounter
Speaker 4: many situations like this to where the communities that are
Speaker 4: involved in the urban area are always going to see
Speaker 4: the police officers as the bad guys.
Speaker 6: There's going to be so much division.
Speaker 4: In our city and that comes from the top, that
Speaker 4: comes from the administration setting that culture, setting that tone
Speaker 4: to where we set out three to one one and
Speaker 4: ARC officers where.
Speaker 6: CPD officers should be going.
Speaker 4: And you're basically casting this image that the CPD officers
Speaker 4: and the police force in our city are the bad guys,
Speaker 4: and that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Speaker 1: There is a predicate of that. That's why the Citizens
Speaker 1: Review Authority exists. Citizens Complaining authority of the CCA. It's
Speaker 1: almost as if when these events transpire, some quickly jumped
Speaker 1: to the idea of what did the cop do wrong
Speaker 1: that caused in this case, the eighteen year old Ryan
Speaker 1: Hinton to be killed, and the circumstances in which the
Speaker 1: eighteen year old teenager was killed was completely controlled by
Speaker 1: the teenager himself. He was the one who made the
Speaker 1: decisions along the way to have possession of a firearm
Speaker 1: to put into it an extended magazine. He was the
Speaker 1: one that grabbed the gun and left the vehicle with
Speaker 1: the gun with the purpose of using the gun. I
Speaker 1: would say, otherwise, why pick it up? And then when
Speaker 1: he took a few steps and fell to the pavement,
Speaker 1: the gun itself fell with him. He made the decision
Speaker 1: to stand up and pick up the gun again, which
Speaker 1: is on bodycam. He then made the decision to run
Speaker 1: in between two dumpsters, in a sense, secrete himself, and
Speaker 1: then ran out the other side toward the woods. And
Speaker 1: at that point the Cincinnati Police officers said in a
Speaker 1: statement that he perceived the gun was being pointed at him.
Speaker 1: When I look at the body cam, it's impossible to
Speaker 1: say whether the gun was pointed at him or not.
Speaker 1: But all this took place over about a two second period,
Speaker 1: and it would have taken a split second for Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: the eighteen year old, to take the gun in his
Speaker 1: right hand, by the way, with a round in the chamber,
Speaker 1: in order to within a split second directed toward the
Speaker 1: police officer and kill him and maybe other police officers.
Speaker 1: There's a sense though, that whenever these events take place,
Speaker 1: the cop was wrong and the so called decedent was correct.
Speaker 1: But who controlled what happened? Was it the police officer
Speaker 1: or was it Ryan Hinton? He controlled everything that what happened,
Speaker 1: and he made the decision to steal the car. He
Speaker 1: made the decision to drive it into a parking lot
Speaker 1: that was somewhat secreted away from the main dragon in
Speaker 1: East Price Hill. He made the decision when the cops
Speaker 1: came up with the sirens blaring, to jump out of
Speaker 1: the car. He made the decision to grab the gun
Speaker 1: with him. He made the decision when he slipped and
Speaker 1: fell in the pavement, to pick up the gun again.
Speaker 1: Then he made the decision again to run from the scene.
Speaker 1: And you might recall Corey Bowman that two seconds before
Speaker 1: the shots were fired, you hear gun, gun, gun, and
Speaker 1: police are trained that when you hear gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: you pull out your weapon immediately because you're in a
Speaker 1: life and death struggle. Do you have empathy for the
Speaker 1: position the police officer was put in by the behavior
Speaker 1: of Ryan Hinton.
Speaker 4: Well know you every detail that you have just stated,
Speaker 4: and all those details had to be thought about, and
Speaker 4: they had to be considered within a matter of seconds.
Speaker 4: And I think that we need to realize that our
Speaker 4: sins and police officers are running into situations where everybody
Speaker 4: else is running out. We are expecting them to protect
Speaker 4: and serve. We are expecting them to make very quick decisions,
Speaker 4: and they have the training, they have the ability to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 6: But whenever we see it.
Speaker 4: From a hindsight situation, all I'm seeing is people that
Speaker 4: are not respecting the position that these police officers are in,
Speaker 4: and they, like I said, they are running in when
Speaker 4: everybody is running out.
Speaker 6: These officers are expected to put their.
Speaker 4: Lives on the line in these situations and they have
Speaker 4: to make these decisions in a split second. And I
Speaker 4: don't think anybody really has the ability to answer for
Speaker 4: these police officers except for those that are in this situation,
Speaker 4: and so we.
Speaker 6: Have to be able to respect them.
Speaker 4: We have to be able to the situation for what
Speaker 4: it is. And if we take this situation and if
Speaker 4: we do anything other than respect the position that these
Speaker 4: police officers are in and to thank them for the
Speaker 4: service that they're doing. You're going to see morale at
Speaker 4: an all time low in the police department. You're going
Speaker 4: to see recruiting down, and it's not going to go
Speaker 4: well for the city because these guys and ladies are
Speaker 4: vital for our city, and we have to set the
Speaker 4: tone from the administration that we support our police officers
Speaker 4: and the sacrifice they make every day.
Speaker 1: I have a social media posting which is Germaine, which
Speaker 1: is consistent with some others I have read that says
Speaker 1: to following, Cincinnati is time to riot. A Cincinnati police
Speaker 1: officer shot a boy in his back. He ran right
Speaker 1: past the officer and he shot him. If the police,
Speaker 1: it's time we stand together and take these mfs down.
Speaker 1: F Cincinnati police, it's time for an officer not to
Speaker 1: make it home f his family. That's a sentiment express
Speaker 1: not by many, but by some. Your reaction, well.
Speaker 4: This is what you have to realize is that you know,
Speaker 4: my coffee shop, we have many police officers that come in.
Speaker 4: These are police officers that are connected with the community,
Speaker 4: that have hearts for the community and for the people
Speaker 4: that they serve, and in situations like this, emotions are high.
Speaker 4: You can't That's why I was so careful about, you know,
Speaker 4: putting out a statement, because everybody wants to put out
Speaker 4: a statement or reaction based on emotions, and any of
Speaker 4: these you know, situations have the tendency of dividing even
Speaker 4: more and creating one side and the other. It's where
Speaker 4: you could see events like that in the downtown area.
Speaker 4: You know, we pray against that, we speak peace over
Speaker 4: this situation. I would encourage anybody on any side that
Speaker 4: they think they're on to really consider the fact that
Speaker 4: we need to operate in peace. We need to be
Speaker 4: able to pray for our police officers, We need to
Speaker 4: be able to pray for our community and the people
Speaker 4: that feel like maybe they're forgotten. But it doesn't change
Speaker 4: the fact that the incident that happened. We've got to
Speaker 4: consider the perspective of these brave police officers that are
Speaker 4: putting their life in harm's way, not for themselves, but
Speaker 4: for the communities that they served.
Speaker 1: You know, many years ago I had on Dan Hills
Speaker 1: and other coppers that decried the idea of having a
Speaker 1: body cam. As the events have rolled by the last
Speaker 1: few years, it is a wonderful thing that these police
Speaker 1: officers had body camps that were operational, and even though
Speaker 1: at the critical moment and that split second between gungun gun,
Speaker 1: shouting and then shooting, which is less than two seconds,
Speaker 1: you can see the horrible circumstances in which the officer
Speaker 1: found himself. His eyes were focused on the nine millimeter.
Speaker 1: Police officers are trained when you hear gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: pull out your service weapon immediately. Secondly, look at the
Speaker 1: hands of the perpetrator. Don't look at his feet, don't
Speaker 1: look at his head, don't look at his shoulder, look
Speaker 1: at the hands. And when he looked at the hands
Speaker 1: of this of this eighteen year old teenager, he saw
Speaker 1: in his right hand had a nine millimeter with an
Speaker 1: extended magazine. Now, I don't know if you're familiar with weapons,
Speaker 1: but there's no reason for an eighteen year old boy
Speaker 1: to have a nine millimeter with an extended mag and
Speaker 1: one in his pocket. He had multiple abilities to fire
Speaker 1: twenty four shots in about five seconds at four to
Speaker 1: five Cincinnati police officers. The bodycam is turned out to
Speaker 1: be wonderful. You can only imagine Corey Bowman if in
Speaker 1: this particular case there was no body cam, and you
Speaker 1: had officers saying that this is what happened. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, there'd be news conferences on the steps of the
Speaker 1: city Hall. To be careful what you say. The bodycam
Speaker 1: demonstrates and this has turned out to be wonderful for
Speaker 1: the police. If you, if you're elected mayor of the
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati, would you insist upon further use of
Speaker 1: body cams, which almost ninety nine percent of the time
Speaker 1: exonerates the police.
Speaker 4: Now you have to you have to be able to
Speaker 4: see it from the perspective of the police officers. And
Speaker 4: these bodycams show what these police officers go through on
Speaker 4: a daily basis, you know. And the reality of it
Speaker 4: is that we've got communities that feel like there's no
Speaker 4: hope for our city, that they feel like there's no future.
Speaker 4: So this kid, and like you said, should never be
Speaker 4: in a situation like that. But I'm in the West
Speaker 4: End and you've got entire communities that feel like there's
Speaker 4: no hope, there's no future. And I'm telling you this
Speaker 4: right now that this has to do with the culture
Speaker 4: that is set from the top of the administration. When
Speaker 4: you're able to support the police officers to be able
Speaker 4: to have a direct involvement in the communities they serve,
Speaker 4: to be able to show that these officers are there
Speaker 4: to protect and serve. You've got to be able to
Speaker 4: invest in entry level positions for jobs and giving these
Speaker 4: kids a hope and a future.
Speaker 6: That is not what's happening right now. We have housing
Speaker 6: developments and.
Speaker 4: Policies that are trapping these kids. They're trapping the entire
Speaker 4: generation in poverty and no hope.
Speaker 6: And when you put somebody.
Speaker 4: In a position to where they feel like they have
Speaker 4: no hope, no future, they have no choice but to
Speaker 4: be able to go in that direction. Now that's not
Speaker 4: me saying that what the kid did was right. We
Speaker 4: have to be able to support our police officers, but
Speaker 4: I blame the top to be able to say that
Speaker 4: they are setting a tone in this administration that.
Speaker 6: Cops are bad.
Speaker 4: But also they're also saying a tone that there's no hope,
Speaker 4: there's no future for these communities that are being lost
Speaker 4: and forgotten about. And this is the result of it.
Speaker 4: When you have no discipline, when you have no strength
Speaker 4: on the top of it, this is what happens is
Speaker 4: that the city runs wild with this, and we have
Speaker 4: to be able to have strong leadership that are going
Speaker 4: to be able to back to the police officers, but
Speaker 4: be able to consider every resident of the communities of
Speaker 4: our great city.
Speaker 1: And look what's happening in the banks Friday night, Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I had on Ken Kober last week who talked about
Speaker 1: one hundreds of kids on a summer's night smoking pot
Speaker 1: looking for their next victim. Lastly, on the issue of
Speaker 1: releasing the video, we've had a policy recently not to
Speaker 1: release the video because it's part of the grand jury investigation.
Speaker 1: By that, I mean there was four or five officers involved.
Speaker 1: Each of them had body cams. You might have had
Speaker 1: a camera on the condo project there in the East
Speaker 1: Price Hill. There's pieces of evidence that come together in
Speaker 1: this particular case. The city now is a policy of
Speaker 1: quickly releasing the video cam, which may tell an incomplete
Speaker 1: story about what occurred in this case. When the video
Speaker 1: was shown to the eighteen year old boy's father, Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: according to media accounts, left the meeting early having watched
Speaker 1: his son being shot to death. I would contend by
Speaker 1: the son's own behavior, which is sad but nonetheless and
Speaker 1: that he went out hunting a police officer to kill,
Speaker 1: and so there was about an hour and a half
Speaker 1: between the time he left the coroner's office when he
Speaker 1: saw his son on video being killed, until he was
Speaker 1: hunting to kill a police officer, and unfortunately a deputy
Speaker 1: sheriff Larry Henderson was the first one he could run
Speaker 1: into with his car and murder. There was no skid mark.
Speaker 1: Is a good public policy to release a part of
Speaker 1: an investigation to show a grieving family the death of
Speaker 1: their loved one when there's so many other pieces to
Speaker 1: put together. This is relatively new. We didn't release videos
Speaker 1: until it was down the road a bit till maybe
Speaker 1: the passion is to the moment, what subside, what's your
Speaker 1: feeling about that.
Speaker 4: I think that what you said about impartial evidence or
Speaker 4: incomplete stories that basically drive the emotions of people is
Speaker 4: right on. I think that what's happening on social media
Speaker 4: right now, what you're seeing in our culture is that
Speaker 4: we want results now, we want reactions now. Everybody is
Speaker 4: basically reacting without thinking, and we have to diffuse these
Speaker 4: situations to be able to say, hey, we pray peace,
Speaker 4: we speak peace over these situations. Let's wait until all
Speaker 4: the evidence comes about let's not react. That's actually why
Speaker 4: I was so careful to release a statement, not because
Speaker 4: there are certain statements that are right or wrong, but
Speaker 4: because every one of these comment sections on all these
Speaker 4: news social media outlets are war zones. You've got people
Speaker 4: on one side and then people on the other, and
Speaker 4: it's not good for our city. You have to be
Speaker 4: able to speak reason. You have to be able to
Speaker 4: speak peacefully in these situations. You have to bring people
Speaker 4: together to say, wait for the evidence to come forward,
Speaker 4: wait for the actual facts to come forward, don't react,
Speaker 4: don't respond. You have to respond with all the evidence.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's something that's very important in
Speaker 4: our city, to be able to say, hey, we have
Speaker 4: to speak peace. We have to speak reason and consider
Speaker 4: every side.
Speaker 6: But that's the thing about.
Speaker 4: The rule of law is that you have to be
Speaker 4: able to look at each side and tell a complete
Speaker 4: story and not just react because of one piece of
Speaker 4: information or one piece of evidence.
Speaker 1: Is there all right, Corey Bowman, the man who would
Speaker 1: be mayor, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 1: And later on we're more information as to the funeral
Speaker 1: for a Deputy sheriff Larry Henderson down the road. But
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you so much. I can't emphasize enough.
Speaker 6: We have to get out to vote.
Speaker 4: May sixth come, everybody, get out to vote for your leadership.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Corey Bowman, thank you very much. Let's
Speaker 1: continue with more and later on after the break. I
Speaker 1: have some comments to make about other charges that might
Speaker 1: be filed against these three individuals who were involved in
Speaker 1: the auto theft that resulted ultimately in the killing the
Speaker 1: murder of Larry Henderson. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 8: Journalism is on the move as they turned for home,
Speaker 8: and sovereignty is coming with him on the outside.
Speaker 1: The two of them go right by with um.
Speaker 8: Lunder on the journalism and sovereignty knows to those down
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Speaker 1: Be sovereignty to rule the the tucky.
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Speaker 9: Oh hello, quiet and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Journalism goes down again. The sovereignty. That sounds like Trump. Well,
Speaker 1: well let's see, uh you know, and thank good to you.
Speaker 1: How about Mike Tarico Saturday getting an allergy food poisoning
Speaker 1: ors off something.
Speaker 10: And the other guy had to fill in? The Derby
Speaker 10: delivered seventeen point seven million viewers Saturday, marking the largest
Speaker 10: Derby audience since nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Do you think the weather people want
Speaker 1: to stay inside? People are entering?
Speaker 10: I get well, I guess so raining all over the
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Speaker 10: that was looking good at the Derby two Bob Bamford. No,
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Speaker 1: You didn't go. I was invited to be to give
Speaker 1: him some award to the third race, and I said, no,
Speaker 1: it's too far away and it's too money. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gart. I guarantee you one thing.
Speaker 10: There was a lot of expensive shoes messed up on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Thank you. How did collins Worth behave? He looked good.
Speaker 10: He had a little hat on and uh kind of
Speaker 10: like judge Mail and Caddy shack, and he had all
Speaker 10: He was very colorful in his fashions.
Speaker 1: Clearly, clearly, you have completely made me.
Speaker 10: I don't know how to thank you.
Speaker 1: Enough, that's for sure. I hate to do they ever
Speaker 1: hear from him. Uh oh see, see this is always dangerous. Well,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. Say, give me some sports. He's
Speaker 1: not going to pick up what I tell you. He's
Speaker 1: afraid of my probing question. He's got nothing. He's got nothing,
Speaker 1: He's a nobody. Whatever happened to him? I heard you
Speaker 1: talking about him and David Versa a few days ago,
Speaker 1: told you he'd have the nineteen eighty one draft. I
Speaker 1: mean they took David Versa out of Kansas, the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That was a mistake.
Speaker 10: Bengal fans went crazy, think was going to be Collinsworth.
Speaker 10: Then they then they had the agonizing weight wait. I
Speaker 10: think it was like the first or second pick in
Speaker 10: the in the round. They had to wait all the
Speaker 10: way through, and it's like, well, collins Worth's gonna go here,
Speaker 10: He's going to go to here, He's gonna go here.
Speaker 10: Round two. Chris Collinsworth, wide receiver, University of Florida. And
Speaker 10: when and when Verser left and he became a cop
Speaker 10: correct for twelve years, Cincinnati cop.
Speaker 1: What's David Versa doing now? If anything I don't know
Speaker 1: might still be able to play? Let's find out? Will
Speaker 1: he the student reporters of Proud Service, every local tame
Speaker 1: star heating and air conditioning dealers tame star quality you
Speaker 1: can feel in Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun at Braun Heating
Speaker 1: at five, one, three, three, eight, five, seventy seven sixty five.
Speaker 1: But those Reds, Willie lose a yesterday four to one
Speaker 1: to the Nats. Dropped two or three in the series,
Speaker 1: lost four to seven on the home stand. Here we
Speaker 1: go again a time I feel high and at times
Speaker 1: I feel low.
Speaker 10: Eighteen and seventeen, still second in the Central but two
Speaker 10: back of the Cubs, just one up on the brew crew. Now,
Speaker 10: and for a second, what do you think about that
Speaker 10: seven game road trip tonight? The first of four in
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Speaker 1: After the game, the whole Town's Battie about Cincinnati. What
Speaker 1: a team? What a team? What a team?
Speaker 10: Yes, they are Lanta's fourth in the East at fifteen
Speaker 10: and eighteen. They got to win last night to avoid
Speaker 10: a sweep by the Dodgers Reds.
Speaker 1: They need to do well and they need to get
Speaker 1: four and three or three and four? Do you agree, correct,
Speaker 1: rhet Lauder?
Speaker 10: Remember him set to begin to rehab assignment tomorrow with
Speaker 10: the ACL Reds in Arizona. Then he's gonna head to Dayton.
Speaker 10: Of course, as you know, he's been on the il
Speaker 10: since the start of the season with a right forearm strain.
Speaker 1: Let's go over the body of the Reds. Wit when
Speaker 1: that happens? Well, part of the well Stevenson's back. He
Speaker 1: homeward yesterday. Cs still got that back inflammation. Uh see,
Speaker 1: who else? What about Hayes? Hayes has got the hamstring,
Speaker 1: got a handy? Who else is on the I don't
Speaker 1: know all of it? All of them? College baseball?
Speaker 10: Those UC Bearcats sweeping twenty fifth rated Kansas on the
Speaker 10: road over the weekend, Xavier beat Seaton Hall. The Musketeers
Speaker 10: still have a shot at the Big East Baseball title.
Speaker 1: Well, what about the what about the US Open qualifier? Macatooa.
Speaker 1: My friend Steve Tino. Tino wants to know about Will
Speaker 1: Grimmer Well.
Speaker 10: The US Open qualifier right now at back at Tewak
Speaker 10: Country Club, owned by Mark Sheer and Dale Donovan, J D.
Speaker 10: Collins out of Lexington, JD. Daniel Wedderick at a Cincinnati
Speaker 10: with a sixty eight. They're in the clubhouse at two
Speaker 10: under pretty good. Leo Wessel out of Indianapolis. Willie is
Speaker 10: two under through twelve, not bad. Leo started out with
Speaker 10: a birdie on one.
Speaker 1: Number one is a relatively short par four. Got to
Speaker 1: carry the bar about two hundred and twenty yards to
Speaker 1: get over the valley. But then it's an easy hole.
Speaker 1: Tell me about number two to par three, par three,
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety yards, mister Wessel hole in one, birdie,
Speaker 1: hole in one, probably hit about a five arm, maybe
Speaker 1: a four arm into the cup on number two. Number
Speaker 1: three is a tough unforgiving par four down the hill,
Speaker 1: up the hill, hit it right, hit it left. What
Speaker 1: happened on number three? Double bogie six?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Will Grimmer is two under through twelve? Yea, what
Speaker 1: do you do?
Speaker 10: Let's see also Flying Pig marathon over forty two thousand
Speaker 10: participants over the weekend and all the Flying Pig events,
Speaker 10: so congrats to them. The men's winner was Sean Ryan.
Speaker 10: He went to Saint Henry and Independence now lives in Tampa.
Speaker 10: Tory Parkinson hails from Utah. The women's full marathon champ.
Speaker 1: How about this Scott, a texam a cop David Versa
Speaker 1: was forced to retire as a cop due to a
Speaker 1: physical disability after about fourteen years. How about that one.
Speaker 1: I wish him well.
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Speaker 1: And Trump will still be Roger Goodell. They are resident
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Speaker 1: race over the weekend. Let's get it done.
Speaker 10: Congrats to Loveland High School Junior. I have Agorus Papa
Speaker 10: sommas easier. It must be a Greek Finnish second in
Speaker 10: the Indie NXT race in the Grand Prix of Alabama.
Speaker 10: Now that's the minor league of the IndyCar Series. But
Speaker 10: Loveland Junior got it done second overall.
Speaker 1: Yesterday got another text Burser had bad knees. I can
Speaker 1: imagine playing football? Correct? You got bad knees.
Speaker 10: Also, Willie. Let's see the Formula one Miami Grand Prix
Speaker 10: was held yesterday. How that go quarterback Joe Burrow of
Speaker 10: the Bengal What on the scene in Miami?
Speaker 1: He's gone Hollywood on his hadn'ty by himself? What about
Speaker 1: that influencer? What about Belichick? Rocky wants to know any
Speaker 1: on that? On Belichick?
Speaker 10: Apparently? What about Jordan? Apparently young Jordan. There are reports
Speaker 10: that in the Super Bowl commercial for Duncan Donuts, she
Speaker 10: forced herself onto the commercial to be in the background.
Speaker 10: Correct with Belichick?
Speaker 1: Right? Is he looking for a PR representative? That's what
Speaker 1: I understand. On X he's looking for a PR firm.
Speaker 1: He's making a fool of himself. By the way, idiot,
Speaker 1: he's already destroyed his legacy. Would you agree talk to
Speaker 1: women of my bike, talk to talk to your wife?
Speaker 1: About what she thinks about Jordan and Billy Boy for
Speaker 1: the years age difference hockey news.
Speaker 10: Well, he had the Cyclones, our beloved Cyclones. The twenty
Speaker 10: twenty five twenty six home opener will be taking place Saturday,
Speaker 10: October eighteenth. What about Paul lawis Heritage Bank Center when
Speaker 10: the Cyclones host those wheeling kneels? What about Paul Lawss
Speaker 10: up there, he's got He's got his h They got
Speaker 10: his name up there on the Hall of Fame. He
Speaker 10: deserves hired number, He deserves it. This is not going
Speaker 10: to go over good in Springfield Township. What Michigan football
Speaker 10: coach Football coach Sharon Moore expected to be suspended for
Speaker 10: two games? What for the upcoming twenty twenty five seasons?
Speaker 10: Part of a self imposed sanctions doing by the university
Speaker 10: for the Connor Stallions advanced scouting scan standal scandal.
Speaker 1: Connor Stallions, Yeah, explain the whole scandal if you can.
Speaker 10: Well, I guess he went to other teams and was
Speaker 10: sitting up in the in the rafters watching up practice,
Speaker 10: watching practice, And I guess you know, is that a
Speaker 10: big deal. Let's see Michigan opens against hosting New Mexico.
Speaker 10: Then they go to Oklahoma, but apparently it's the third
Speaker 10: and fourth games that he's going to be that coach
Speaker 10: Moore has been against Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: They don't need him against New Mexico. I think that
Speaker 1: the aggies is that correct. Might want to look that up.
Speaker 1: That's where Richard Patino came from. What happens What happens
Speaker 1: when Rocky Boy Mean's Bill Belichick goes to TCU with
Speaker 1: North Carolina open up the season at TCU the whole
Speaker 1: by the way, if Tom Brenneman's daughter's graduation.
Speaker 10: If he does any kind of games with Bill Belichick
Speaker 10: and being the stuff back, because if not, we're gonna
Speaker 10: grill him.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's really going to coach the Tar Heels?
Speaker 1: If I was North Carolina, I get rid of him.
Speaker 1: Now twenty nine million dollar buyout.
Speaker 10: Well, in that case, yeah, somebody just write a check,
Speaker 10: and you know he's got to get a go Funbee
Speaker 10: page going.
Speaker 1: He's got a ten million dollars six year contract with
Speaker 1: a buyout ten million a year. Well, and she's got
Speaker 1: already eight million of his assets in her name. What
Speaker 1: did he get from that relationship? Was what I don't
Speaker 1: understand she got, you know, what we'll last Rocky, Rocky,
Speaker 1: Rocky knows all about that answer. What does Belichick get
Speaker 1: out of this? Yeah?
Speaker 10: I want to know Rocky needs to answer. That's fortune.
Speaker 10: What does he get ro He's an expert. Does he
Speaker 10: need fame?
Speaker 1: He's a next with Belichick's need a fortune? What's he
Speaker 1: getting out of this?
Speaker 10: All you got to do is be Bill Belichick walking
Speaker 10: to a place with all six of your rings on it.
Speaker 1: That's it? Now? What about the one more thing? At baseball?
Speaker 10: Kansas City Royals hit a franchise record seven homers yesterday
Speaker 10: at Baltimore. Luke Maylee and Jonathan India went deep. How
Speaker 10: about that for Kansas City? First home run, first homers
Speaker 10: as a Royal for both Malee at a Covcath was
Speaker 10: recalled just three days ago from Triple A.
Speaker 1: Omaha. You know I had dinner yesterday at Ron's Rus
Speaker 1: with Olga. Yes, and Ron I asked Olga, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Bill Belichick taking up with a woman
Speaker 1: fifty years of his junior? And she said he's making
Speaker 1: a damn fool of himself. Correct, said Olga, never three
Speaker 1: her words or ever spoken. And Ron Walking said, I
Speaker 1: kind of get that wouldn't you, Well, I mean something
Speaker 1: with you and Denise and some young twenty two year
Speaker 1: old saddled up next to the seg man. What would
Speaker 1: you do? Pass outs? Bingo bingo? Pass outs. Denise and
Speaker 1: I were there Saturday, So the superstars Saratoga Chips got
Speaker 1: some turkey potatoes and he got to get a cheese
Speaker 1: sandwich delicious, Sean Donovan got some chicken breasts. All guys
Speaker 1: sat down with us yep, making a damn full of himself.
Speaker 1: But Ron says, what happens if he impregnates her, then
Speaker 1: babies come? Now we're now, we're talking. Now, she's got
Speaker 1: the Golden ticket, now the now, the Pandoras. Now it's open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's too old for the players that Belichick is
Speaker 1: coaching at North Carolina. How's that going to make a difference?
Speaker 1: Have you've seen my Twitter account with my picture of
Speaker 1: Belichick and Jordan when circa the year two thousand or one? Correct? Now,
Speaker 1: what about the Trumpster once wants to reopen O. I
Speaker 1: saw the movie Too Many Escapes take Place from that.
Speaker 10: Was a I named guy named Norris and two mothers more. Yeah,
Speaker 10: they still don't know whether they all supposedly they're died,
Speaker 10: but but I don't know. Say, get me out of
Speaker 10: the Stuge report. I'm gonna hear from the American people.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna open up the lines. What in your name?
Speaker 10: I broad Now you're gonna sit out right, You're not
Speaker 10: gonna sit out like the other night.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fall down. And we got to go
Speaker 1: a segment. Get me out of the Stooge Report, Willy and.
Speaker 10: Utter of the red legs on the road tonight in
Speaker 10: the atl we leave you with the immortal words of
Speaker 10: the Stude Report.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens, won't Oh boy, seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 1: Hilly cunning into Great America. Now is your time to
Speaker 1: join me on seven hundred WLW. Let your voice be
Speaker 1: heard if six lines all are opened for your telephone
Speaker 1: calls at five win three, seven four, nine, seven thousand
Speaker 1: or pounds seven hundred and uh once your comment. So
Speaker 1: in the events of what's happened last Thursday and Friday,
Speaker 1: and where you stand on the issue, if anywhere understand
Speaker 1: there's a makeshift memorial taking place on mL King Junior
Speaker 1: and near Burnett Woods where the killing took place of
Speaker 1: Officer Larry Henderson, who served thirty three years Hamley County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department. Part of the time was spent on the
Speaker 1: bomb Squad disarming explosive devices. Part of the time was
Speaker 1: spent on the dive unit inside the Ohio River, part
Speaker 1: of the time was spent assisting the FBI on high
Speaker 1: risk issues. And now in peace, after serving for thirty
Speaker 1: three years, Officer Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson finds himself in
Speaker 1: a situation not of his making, but of the making
Speaker 1: of some criminal who wanted revenge and retribution in his
Speaker 1: sick mind for the taking the life of his son,
Speaker 1: whose behavior calls exactly what occurred to him. And two
Speaker 1: thanks before I go to the calls. Seven four nine
Speaker 1: seven pounds seven hundred are the comments of the Vice
Speaker 1: Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Jan Michelle Kearney, who said, quote,
Speaker 1: our community is grieving for the eighteen year old young
Speaker 1: man whom we lost too soon in the Hamony County
Speaker 1: Sheriff who was killed today in the line of duty.
Speaker 1: We pray for their families and for our police share
Speaker 1: of families. The equivalizations being drawn between the life and
Speaker 1: the death of Deputy Larry Henderson, along with the life
Speaker 1: and the death of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton, which
Speaker 1: I reject completely. I mean, every human life has value,
Speaker 1: but in one case it was a brave soldier who
Speaker 1: stood up against the criminal element for years and decades,
Speaker 1: not being Larry Henderson, and the other one being Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: who was only eighteen years old that found himself in
Speaker 1: a position where he was in a stolen vehicle possessing
Speaker 1: weapons I was illegal for him to possess. I'm told
Speaker 1: he's got an extensive previous juvenile record, and I want
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts about the police community seven four
Speaker 1: nine seven thousand. First call will be John from Dayton.
Speaker 1: We have three lines open five one three seven four
Speaker 1: nine seven thousand to get your feeling yea or nay.
Speaker 1: And I'll give each caller about thirty seconds to a
Speaker 1: minute more or less a fast break to offer the
Speaker 1: condolences for one or the other before I go to
Speaker 1: the calls. I also would point out that in social
Speaker 1: media on a there's a hashtag stand with Rodney being
Speaker 1: the thirty eight year old father Justice for Rodney, and
Speaker 1: one of the memes here indicates they really tried to
Speaker 1: use over thirty deputies to intimidate Rodney Hinton, but he
Speaker 1: kept his head up. There is a thought in our city,
Speaker 1: in our region that there's an acquivalization between the eighteen
Speaker 1: year old who was a felon who tried had the
Speaker 1: ability to kill police officers, whose own behavior brought about
Speaker 1: his death, and the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the calls now, and we have we have
Speaker 1: John and Dayton and Larry and riding the Home of
Speaker 1: the Blue Devils, and Jason back in Cincinnati, Eddie and
Speaker 1: Cole Ran and many others, and John and Dayton. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham showing John, how are you? How
Speaker 1: are you? And give me give me a full report
Speaker 1: on this issue.
Speaker 11: I'm good, How were you willing?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? John?
Speaker 11: Good listening to this over the past couple of days.
Speaker 11: There's been two things that I think are important that
Speaker 11: I haven't heard brought up yet, and the first of
Speaker 11: which is at eighteen years old, it was illegal for
Speaker 11: him even to have a handgun.
Speaker 1: Anyway, say that again, because many don't understand it is
Speaker 1: illegal in Ohio. Some states have at eighteen, but in
Speaker 1: Ohio it is illegal to possess a handgun.
Speaker 11: Correct period until until the age of twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 11: And then the other thing everyone everyone brings up is
Speaker 11: why didn't they try to use a taser? And I
Speaker 11: don't don't. I don't think people understand that that. I
Speaker 11: believe it's something to affect forty percent of the time.
Speaker 11: Tasers are ineffective in the first place, yep. Let alone,
Speaker 11: when an officer staring down the barrel of a.
Speaker 1: Gun well ten feet away, use the taser in your
Speaker 1: miss or you hit the guy and he's got a
Speaker 1: round in the chamber. He's got an extended mag Now,
Speaker 1: why would he purposely take the gun from the car
Speaker 1: unless he planned to use it? Why would he drop
Speaker 1: the car, drop the gun in the parking lot as
Speaker 1: he fell, and then pick it up if he didn't
Speaker 1: intend to use it. Why did he have a round
Speaker 1: in the chamber unless he intended to use it? And
Speaker 1: why did you point the gun at the cop unless
Speaker 1: he intended to use it? Answer those questions.
Speaker 11: I don't understand the victim mentality of this all, Like
Speaker 11: how how how much more clear cut can a case be?
Speaker 1: And it's on video, It's on video, you can see it.
Speaker 1: And I know what the radical left is saying that
Speaker 1: is there's not a snapshot we had on Chief Thiji
Speaker 1: about two hours ago. There's not a clear snapshot in
Speaker 1: the video of the gun actually pointed at the officer,
Speaker 1: and she said it's because the camera was moving as
Speaker 1: the officer was running. As soon as one officer yelled gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: their weapons came out because they were in a life
Speaker 1: and death struggle. How long would it have take them
Speaker 1: to him to redirect the barrel of the gun from
Speaker 1: forward toward the officer and shoot with the extended meg
Speaker 1: about twenty four shots. It would have taken him a
Speaker 1: split second to make that movement. And when you engage
Speaker 1: in this kind of behavior, the result can be your
Speaker 1: own death. Thanks for calling. Let's continue now with Larry
Speaker 1: and reading the Home of the Blue Devils and Larry,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 12: Larry, your comments, well, I was the first person to
Speaker 12: always jump out of my car and protect the police officer.
Speaker 1: I fight for him.
Speaker 12: But I'll tell you what a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 12: I ran into an officer on a civil matter and
Speaker 12: I was treated so poorly and yelled at and degraded
Speaker 12: in front of people, and I just want to tell everybody.
Speaker 12: It just takes his n see the police out there listening.
Speaker 12: All it takes is want of you guys to turn
Speaker 12: people around on you guys because you all wear the
Speaker 12: same uniform. Now I don't like the police. After I was.
Speaker 1: That's it, You're gone. The fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: to are cops perfect beings?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: Can they make a mistake, yes, But the words express
Speaker 1: assuming they were in anger, have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the murder of a deputy sheriff. The murder, and if
Speaker 1: one cop does something wrong, which happens occasionally, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: all cops are responsible any more than if one young
Speaker 1: black kid commits a crime, that doesn't make all black
Speaker 1: kids responsible. In the city of Cincinnati, there is about
Speaker 1: twenty thousand young black males, and of that group, probably
Speaker 1: if five hundred commit crimes. It's a small number, but
Speaker 1: the face of crime in Cincinnati is largely a black
Speaker 1: male face of a young person. But the great majority
Speaker 1: of black young males have nothing to do with crime.
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry for your circumstance, but I disagree. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Ja Jason, Cincinnati, then Greg and Dent and
Speaker 1: Jason and Cincinnati. Please, what do you got welly.
Speaker 5: It's an honor to talk to you today, first time
Speaker 5: speaking to you.
Speaker 6: You're a great man.
Speaker 1: God bless you.
Speaker 5: Thanks far as far as the Yahoo before me, get
Speaker 5: him out of here. I am a product of a
Speaker 5: failed juvenile court system myself. All they did as a
Speaker 5: youth would slap me on the wrist until I turned
Speaker 5: eighteen years old, and then it took the honorable Norbert
Speaker 5: Natle to set me on the right path. I got
Speaker 5: in trouble as a young adult and I went in
Speaker 5: front of Norbert Natle and he sent me to jail.
Speaker 5: When I got out of jail, I actually had the
Speaker 5: opportunity to meet him and talk to him, and the
Speaker 5: first thing I said to him was thank you because
Speaker 5: he saved my life. If he wouldn't have stepped in
Speaker 5: and showed me how to be a man, I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be where I am today. It's a travesty. What happened
Speaker 5: to the police officer. I can't believe it. He had
Speaker 5: nothing to do with the young Hinton junior, you know,
Speaker 5: committing the crime. I mean, you're sitting in a car
Speaker 5: that's stolen. You'd wait for the police to pull up
Speaker 5: and then you take.
Speaker 1: Off running and none left that nothing would have happened.
Speaker 1: And today's world, he.
Speaker 6: Could have left that gun.
Speaker 5: Let's just say that, you know, he would have left
Speaker 5: the gun in the car and took off running. Then
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have got shot. I mean, it's it's one
Speaker 5: of those situations where you play stupid games and you
Speaker 5: win stupid prizes.
Speaker 6: It's a sad loss.
Speaker 5: It's sad to see a young black man with no
Speaker 5: direction in his life out here stealing cars from people
Speaker 5: who work hard to afford their vehicle. You come along,
Speaker 5: you steal it with a with a US B cord,
Speaker 5: and then you're sitting in the apartments hanging out with
Speaker 5: your buddies like it's your car. And then you take
Speaker 5: off and you get shot. And then your dad ends
Speaker 5: up hitting an innocent cop who's out here doing his job,
Speaker 5: who's retired as a family, didn't think about anything, just
Speaker 5: ahead and just and hit hit the sheriff. And it's terrible.
Speaker 5: But it all bleeds back to a terrible juvenile court
Speaker 5: system where for decades they have failed the youth in Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: And I was the product of the failed youth. And
Speaker 5: it's you know, I don't have a problem today standing
Speaker 5: up and saying that they failed me as a young man.
Speaker 6: My dad did the best he could. God rest his soul.
Speaker 5: I was just a wavered youth and it took Norbert
Speaker 5: natal to set me on the right path. And thank God,
Speaker 5: I got to thank him for really saving my life.
Speaker 1: And Judge Nick Natle died about six years ago. He
Speaker 1: was a great man. I'll say this that it is
Speaker 1: perceived as no big deal if you're a juvenile who
Speaker 1: commits a felony. And how many County Juvenile Court would
Speaker 1: Judge Carrie Bloom is the chief judge, And it's damn
Speaker 1: near impossible to be sent to juvenile jail if you
Speaker 1: commit serious crimes. And told by Cincinnati police that this individual,
Speaker 1: this eighteen year old Ryan Hinton, had an extensive previous
Speaker 1: juvenile record for which there was no punishment. And so
Speaker 1: in his mind, I can heist a car, use it
Speaker 1: for illegitimate purposes, I will suggest to you steal a gun,
Speaker 1: put an extended mag on it with the intent of
Speaker 1: using it. The only reason he took the gun as
Speaker 1: the police were trying to arrest him was to use
Speaker 1: it against them. He wasn't going to use it against
Speaker 1: his three co conspirators. He wanted to kill police, which
Speaker 1: is why he chambered around. Why if you know anything
Speaker 1: about handguns, why do you chamber around? Why do you
Speaker 1: take the safety off? The purpose is you be ready,
Speaker 1: And he was going to kill police, and but for
Speaker 1: the quick action I want for anybody, for anybody, and
Speaker 1: why you're rolling around anybody? There were armed robbery, burglary,
Speaker 1: drug deals, breaking into stores. How many times have I
Speaker 1: seen a Kia or a Hyundai go into a pawn
Speaker 1: shop in order to steal guns? It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I think about Benjamin Addison. Justin Dugan in Mount Auburn
Speaker 1: used a gun to try to steal his Benjamin Addison's hyunday,
Speaker 1: and he went out to stop him, and Justin Dugan
Speaker 1: murdered Benjamin Addison. And it all began with stealing of
Speaker 1: a car. It's like, no big Well, it is a
Speaker 1: big deal when you steal somebody's car because you don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell is going to happen. And the
Speaker 1: result of this, Larry Henderson is dead. They started the
Speaker 1: long start. I wish there was a way to get
Speaker 1: these three kids, eighteen and nineteen year old kids that
Speaker 1: are alive I wish there was a way to hook
Speaker 1: them with the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson, but legally
Speaker 1: it's probably not possible because they were part they started
Speaker 1: the whole thing that resulted in the deputy sheriff being murdered,
Speaker 1: and there was a broken approximate cause was broken. But
Speaker 1: I wish there was a way to send these three away.
Speaker 1: For years they participated in events that resulted in the
Speaker 1: murder of a cop, and they're gonna get They're going
Speaker 1: to get out of it, and I predict little or
Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen to these three. In fact, one
Speaker 1: of them was in court this morning. Sincere gregs be eighteen,
Speaker 1: he was given twenty five one thousand dollars bond, he's
Speaker 1: likely out right Now, let's continue with Greg and Dent.
Speaker 1: Greg and Dent, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Greg,
Speaker 1: Please go ahead.
Speaker 13: How you doing, Bill, Great.
Speaker 1: Day to being American. But some days are better than others.
Speaker 13: Okay, Well, I'm a middle aged man, fifty five years old,
Speaker 13: and it all goes back to the same thing every
Speaker 13: time I hear about these horrible stories, and it is
Speaker 13: a horrible story. But if that kid would have just
Speaker 13: listened to the cops like I was taught to do.
Speaker 13: He would still be here, everybody would still be here.
Speaker 13: But he chose not to listen to him. And I
Speaker 13: don't understand that. Where did that faction go away? Where
Speaker 13: the cops? You can negotiate with a cop. I never
Speaker 13: negotiated with a cop when for christ sake, when I
Speaker 13: was sixteenth, they pulled me over and told me to
Speaker 13: poop in the bag. I poop in the bag. I mean,
Speaker 13: come on, why does the thing nowadays that you don't
Speaker 13: have to do what they say?
Speaker 1: Well, Greg, it's culturally acceptable. I'll tell you what, Greg.
Speaker 1: If you look online, there's a hashtag supporting supporting Rodney,
Speaker 1: who's the third eight year old father. There's a faction
Speaker 1: of our community who believed that assaults on police officers
Speaker 1: are justified because of historical racial prejudices committed by other
Speaker 1: cops other times, other circumstances. The present police division has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the police division of a one
Speaker 1: hundred years ago, nothing to do with it. And there's
Speaker 1: a disrespect for law and order that exists in our
Speaker 1: society almost everywhere that manifests itself in the killing of cops.
Speaker 1: The beating of cops. And all they as you said,
Speaker 1: all these four punks had to do was get out
Speaker 1: of the car, put their hands up, They get arrested,
Speaker 1: The owner of the Kia gets his car back in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: and the four of them are They're out on bond
Speaker 1: within three or four hours of no bond at all.
Speaker 1: Henderson is still alive and Rodney Hinton is not facing
Speaker 1: a murder charge. All they had to do was comply
Speaker 1: with the police then fight it out in court later on.
Speaker 1: That's all that had to happen. And they refuse to
Speaker 1: do so because there's an idea that attacking and harming
Speaker 1: police is culturally acceptable and that is sick. And I
Speaker 1: got to run, Greg, you got me all urinated off.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got to this situation. I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but we're here now and it's not good.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. I want to apologize to the
Speaker 1: rest on hold and we will. We have Scott from
Speaker 1: Sharonville if you can remember to call back tomorrow. He
Speaker 1: wants to set up a GoFundMe page for the cops,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what we can do. Bill Cunningham, News
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WW.
Speaker 7: In fact, please allow me, friends to digress for a moment. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's kind of dark in here, but I'm asked with
Speaker 7: show of hands, who saw that video from a couple
Speaker 7: of weeks ago, the one of the elephants at the
Speaker 7: San Diego.
Speaker 1: Zoo during the earthquake?
Speaker 13: Googolate?
Speaker 1: Have you've not seen it?
Speaker 7: So that scene has been on my mind. Everybody's asking
Speaker 7: me what you've been thinking about these days?
Speaker 9: Well, oh oh, hello, hello, quiet, I'm broadcastings WROT.
Speaker 1: You've been thinking about dancing elephants at a zoo? One
Speaker 1: might ask, what else is here to think about?
Speaker 14: We were fairly close to listen to that every day.
Speaker 1: You give me your analysis of what happened on Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday. Lots of stuff going on. You've seen the memes,
Speaker 1: you showed me a couple of them. In fact, tomorrow,
Speaker 1: isn't there a pal well at the arrayment? The second
Speaker 1: Arrayment of a Rodney Hinton at nine o'clock in the morning. Yeah.
Speaker 14: This was posted on the Greater Cincinnati Politics facebook page.
Speaker 14: I guess a group called Cincinnati Socialists segment. Are you
Speaker 14: a member?
Speaker 1: I believe no?
Speaker 14: Uh yeah, they're having some get together eight a at
Speaker 14: ten to eleven am to show, show out and chat.
Speaker 14: We don't condone murder, but we do stand under Rodney
Speaker 14: Hinton Junior and those affected by state violence.
Speaker 1: We're fed up state and the police, the state violence.
Speaker 14: You believe that, I mean everything you can to like
Speaker 14: not throw throw the phone through the through the window.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I have other indications of what social media is doing
Speaker 1: to this case, which is which is very very sad
Speaker 1: and uh it talks about black men being shot down
Speaker 1: like dogs by white police officers, which has nothing whatsoever
Speaker 1: to do with this case. Zero zelch. The color doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Behavior counts for everything. And you're you're like a handgun expert, correct, Yes,
Speaker 1: I am. In other words, if you're eighteen, you can
Speaker 1: I legally possess a gun in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: You cannot possess a handgun got to be twenty one,
Speaker 1: So that's a felony. That's number two. How about heisting
Speaker 1: stealing auto theft of a of a of a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three Kia Strike two felony and then coming across
Speaker 1: state lines and possession of a handgun illegal FBI number
Speaker 1: three and then going to some place a little bit
Speaker 1: secreted at these priced Silicondra project. One way in, one
Speaker 1: way out. I would assume the smoke pot of God
Speaker 1: knows to do what else? Number four? Here comes the
Speaker 1: cruisers because of the tracking device on the vehicle. Here
Speaker 1: they come though. Now at this point, Ryan Hinton's got
Speaker 1: decisions to make. Does he come out, put his hands
Speaker 1: up and say, I'm under rest, You got me, I'll
Speaker 1: be out. I'll be out by five o'clock. Right?
Speaker 14: No, But if he does all that, no matter what
Speaker 14: he's he's still living. And then then you know Henderson.
Speaker 1: Number two. There's two guns in the car. Both are illegal.
Speaker 1: One has an extended meg which gun to pick? The
Speaker 1: one with the extending mag all right?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Why why would you do that? They have more bullets
Speaker 1: to shoot?
Speaker 13: All right?
Speaker 14: How about an extended like a normal block magazine normally
Speaker 14: like a glock seventeen is probably as a standard block
Speaker 14: seventeen round mag An extended mag holds thirty three.
Speaker 1: Thirty three, so you got thirty three shots to and
Speaker 1: you know you've got trouble now the police is eighteen.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have it illegal? Right At number three, he drops,
Speaker 1: he trips and falls and there goes the weapon on
Speaker 1: the pavement. He's got another decision to make. Don't put
Speaker 1: my hands up and say you got me? Do I
Speaker 1: bug you into the that's the one. It's like, there
Speaker 1: was the opportunity rights.
Speaker 14: The gun falls on the ground, saying, you know what,
Speaker 14: all right, the compet right there goes on the ground.
Speaker 1: You got me? Got me? No? No, what does he do?
Speaker 1: Pix it up? Pix it up?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Why would he do that if he didn't intend to
Speaker 1: use use it? And then he runs not directly into
Speaker 1: the woods. There's two dumpsters that are at large metal
Speaker 1: dumpsters he could get behind and do whatever. He runs
Speaker 1: in between the dumpsters with the loaded gun in his
Speaker 1: right hand, and then he's told again gun gun gun.
Speaker 1: You know, as a cop supporter, when the word gun
Speaker 1: gun gun comes out, you pulled out your weapon because
Speaker 1: you're thinking it's gunsmot times it's serious things. He comes
Speaker 1: around and you can't see him point the barrel, which
Speaker 1: is what THESEI said with me about two and a
Speaker 1: half hours ago, because it's obscured. But the cop said,
Speaker 1: of course, he picked up the gun out of the car.
Speaker 1: He tripped and fell, picked up the gun. He chambered
Speaker 1: around took off the safety. He runs between the dumpsters
Speaker 1: and then he's told to stop, stop, stop, and he doesn't,
Speaker 1: and the cop perceived him to point the gun at him.
Speaker 1: Where's the bad part of this?
Speaker 14: Everything was in his power to not allow this to happen,
Speaker 14: and he, by his own choice, seemingly decided to. There
Speaker 14: was like four different things that could have stopped that
Speaker 14: right along the way, could have not picked up the gun,
Speaker 14: could have not ran, could have obviously not stolen the car,
Speaker 14: all that sort of thing. There was like three or
Speaker 14: four different things that could have happened that he said, Okay,
Speaker 14: you know what, this isn't a good idea, No, but
Speaker 14: he just blew through all four of those and please
Speaker 14: had to use do what they had to do.
Speaker 1: Seg your reaction. Middletown cop is injured today another car
Speaker 1: that was stolen, car stolen runs into the Middletown cop.
Speaker 1: He is in the hospital. How about Benjamin Addison Mount
Speaker 1: Alburn guy tries to steal a car and the murderer
Speaker 1: game was James Dougan is convicted of manslaughter, should have
Speaker 1: been murdered against twenty one years. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is just say hey, hands luked this out and in
Speaker 1: today's world, what happens nothing on a car theft nothing
Speaker 1: nothing segment.
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Speaker 1: One other thing rock to reflect upon. There's a go
Speaker 1: fundme page now set up to assist the murderer who
Speaker 1: killed Larry Henderson. Go fund me page and uh, it's
Speaker 1: going to get thousands of dollars donated to it, along
Speaker 1: with Luigi Mangioni, the guy who killed the healthcare execut
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars two million at this point million, two million.
Speaker 1: And now this one is set up to assist the
Speaker 1: defense work on behalf of the law firm Johnny Cochrane
Speaker 1: Law firm, and Michael Wright's going to handle the defense
Speaker 1: of mister Rodney Hinton, who now has a go Fundme page.
Speaker 1: Seg your reaction will ye. Let's see Miami Middletown. They're
Speaker 1: headed to the uscaa small college baseball World Series again.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Aren't they there every year?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: That was UC Claremont. Oh okay.
Speaker 10: The He's seven National Football League Draft will be held
Speaker 10: in Washington, d C. For the first time in eighty
Speaker 10: six years on the National Mall National of the Washington Monument.
Speaker 1: And is that the new stadium will be built by then?
Speaker 10: All the commanders are going to have a three point
Speaker 10: seven five eight nine billion dollars stadium.
Speaker 14: Is the Trump's are gonna be there? Is just gonna
Speaker 14: walk out and walk down the lawn there.
Speaker 10: And he announced it in the White House today with
Speaker 10: you're good Fred Roger Goodell standing next to him.
Speaker 1: You like lookalalikes you and Roger Goodell?
Speaker 11: Anyone.
Speaker 1: I've told you that you and Ken Brew.
Speaker 14: I have heard that, all right. I also good Jack Reacher,
Speaker 14: the guy who plays Jack Reacher. I don't like that
Speaker 14: guy because he's left wing activist.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. Is he really yes, he is
Speaker 1: a big, strong guy. I was talking about that. No.
Speaker 1: I like Jack Reacher. I like the original one. The
Speaker 1: second one is not so good. He's a lefting radical extremist.
Speaker 1: Trump's also going to open up Alcatraz. You hear that.
Speaker 1: I love that. I saw the movie, Clint Eastwood. I
Speaker 1: saw the movie. I saw The Day Escape.
Speaker 14: They did escape, So the great unsolved mysteries on that,
Speaker 14: the casts of their head, and if.
Speaker 1: They would have lived, we'd know, right, you'd have to think.
Speaker 14: I saw a documentary not long ago that made the case.
Speaker 1: It may have. It reached pretty far. What about dB Cooper?
Speaker 1: Did we find out who that guy was? Jumped down
Speaker 1: on the plane. They're still looking for him, still looking
Speaker 1: for him along with those along with Bigfoot. Let's see
Speaker 1: us open qualifier today Willie at Mcateewak Country Club. Let's
Speaker 1: see J. D.
Speaker 10: Collins out of Lexington and Daniel Wedderick as Cincinnati is
Speaker 10: a sixty eight. Leo Wessel out of Indianapolis is also
Speaker 10: two under through sixteen. What about Brett Rehderick. You're not
Speaker 10: going to make it. Let's see, uh, mister Wessell had
Speaker 10: a birdie on one far three and ninety yard hole
Speaker 10: in one, dunked it on number.
Speaker 1: Two three under I don't have the old average, then
Speaker 1: number three double bogie.
Speaker 10: But he is going to it looks like he's going
Speaker 10: to make the cut the head to the US Open.
Speaker 1: My friend Steve Tina wants to know about Will Grimmer?
Speaker 1: What about him?
Speaker 10: Will Grimmer is currently at through fifteen. He's two over
Speaker 10: not good. The projected cut is one under not good.
Speaker 10: Let's see what else. Beloved Cyclones their twenty twenty five
Speaker 10: twenty six home opener is going to be hosting Wheeling
Speaker 10: Downtown on Saturday, October the eighteenth.
Speaker 1: Go fund me page for the father accused of killing
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson's got to go fund me page to help him.
Speaker 1: Rocky reaction segment, Please continue.
Speaker 10: Quarterback Joe Burrow, how about this scene this weekend at
Speaker 10: the Formula one Miami Grand Prix.
Speaker 1: But Jordan Hudson, is that correct? I don't think well.
Speaker 1: The pictures I saw is by herself? Here we go?
Speaker 1: How about you? Got it? Is he taking up with her? Now?
Speaker 1: I ran into Olgus Saturday Sunday afternoon at Ron's Ruse.
Speaker 1: I said, Olga, I said, what do you think about Bill? Belichick.
Speaker 1: And she looked at me and said, he's lost his mind.
Speaker 1: He's making a fool of them.
Speaker 14: Bill Belichick should be with a woman like Olga.
Speaker 1: I said, would you date some fifty some forty year old?
Speaker 1: She said no, she said, I'm done with that. I'm
Speaker 1: done with that. But Bill, that's the kind.
Speaker 14: Of girl Belichick, and someone's going to take care of
Speaker 14: him for him.
Speaker 1: We fell in love with something else. What's he getting
Speaker 1: out of this? She got eight million, it's very obvious.
Speaker 1: Well she got it. She got eight million dollars, she
Speaker 1: got fame and fortune. Belichick didn't need fame, didn't need fortune.
Speaker 1: So what's the happy he got the thing? Penetration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and August said to me, what happens if she gets pregnant? Then,
Speaker 1: oh my god, then all you know what's going to
Speaker 1: break loose. So that's the golden ticket right there. Little Willy,
Speaker 1: a little Willy comes out like a little turtle head
Speaker 1: out more.
Speaker 15: Issues in a magazine stand Michigan had Football Cold Your
Speaker 15: Own More Not Good expected to be suspended for two
Speaker 15: games for the upcoming twenty twenty five season as part
Speaker 15: of self imposed sanctions.
Speaker 10: By the Wolverines for the Connor Stallions Advanced Scouting.
Speaker 14: There's a documentary on Netflix on Connor Stallions and the
Speaker 14: just the how damn good he was at stealing sign
Speaker 14: You should watch.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Like in football, when the guy's on the
Speaker 1: sideline doing this.
Speaker 14: Right, he's he could decipher within like a couple of drives,
Speaker 14: you know, because usually there'll be separate coaches like you know,
Speaker 14: maybe the OC and analysts and like the third string
Speaker 14: quarterback and which one is the real one either by quarter,
Speaker 14: by half or by one is given one the other.
Speaker 14: They're all three given signs, but only one of them
Speaker 14: is a real sign. He can figure out who's given
Speaker 14: the real sign, what the play is. I mean he
Speaker 14: is right, yes, but you're not allowed to go to
Speaker 14: an opposing schools stadium and the audience or I mean this,
Speaker 14: there was a report he was on Central Michigan's the
Speaker 14: chip of online during a game for one of Michigan's opponents.
Speaker 1: But it's legal to do it, and it's frowned upon.
Speaker 14: I would say, look, I mean every school tries to
Speaker 14: steal the other school signals. It's just he went to
Speaker 14: extreme links illegal lengths to do such.
Speaker 1: Does notre Dame do that. Does Notre Dame cheat also
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 14: Well, look the helmet, the helmet communication thing is should
Speaker 14: be an end all that stuff. I mean, it could
Speaker 14: have been done twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: Really good at cheating. Didn't want it to be done.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the brutal truth on that. Like in baseball,
Speaker 1: you know, on the side of the baseball you have
Speaker 1: to and the same thing in football. You know, whether
Speaker 1: you have a two deep, three deep zone, man demand
Speaker 1: blitz whatever it is, and if you know what's coming,
Speaker 1: you tell the linebacker in the headset, Hey, they're coming
Speaker 1: on the right side. Makes a difference. So Michigan cheated
Speaker 1: its way to the glory of the National Hardball got damned.
Speaker 1: Now swing more.
Speaker 14: You suspend himself for two games, throw himself at the
Speaker 14: mercy of the n C Double A, and therefore they
Speaker 14: won't punish him anymore now.
Speaker 1: On the mercy of the court. I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: it's all our balls out of there. Michigan cheated its
Speaker 1: way to the title, that's all I know.
Speaker 14: You just wonder how many other schools were going to
Speaker 14: the same lengths.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I what's his crimes? He probably donates
Speaker 1: money to the go fund me page. He's probably on
Speaker 1: the case right beyond the case, Rock, what's on the
Speaker 1: big show at three o'clock, big news conference. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll be on time or not.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we got a news conference of three.
Speaker 1: But cart the family, well they we're going to look
Speaker 1: into it to see the answers. Yes, this is the
Speaker 1: lawyers for the Hitting family. My good friend Michael Wright.
Speaker 1: If loving him is wrong, I don't want to be right,
Speaker 1: Michael Wright.
Speaker 14: Well, we're supposed to have a guest on air traffic
Speaker 14: controllers and the shortage and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 14: That's a three that may have to get bumped back.
Speaker 14: Got Dean Regus later.
Speaker 1: Asteroid's gonna kill us all everything, everything do all right, Rock,
Speaker 1: thank you segment. You need to stand tall and don't
Speaker 1: donate money to this go fund me page. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, say give me out of the Stude report, please?
Speaker 10: Will they an honor of the red legs on the
Speaker 10: road and hopefully it's a better road trip than the
Speaker 10: homestand easy for you to say, we leave you with
Speaker 10: the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 16: But I wanted to I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 16: did everything I could to keep us safe while repairing
Speaker 16: some of the damaged reputation of this office rock.
Speaker 1: What else they have on besides the obvious the news
Speaker 1: conference at three o'clock allegedly involving the attorneys for the
Speaker 1: Rodney and the family and the estate they want to sue.
Speaker 1: They want to sue in behalf of the eighteen year
Speaker 1: old dead guy. They want to sue on his behalf
Speaker 1: to get money alleging wrongful behavior by the Cincinnati police.
Speaker 14: Our four o'clock guest, by the way, is an expert
Speaker 14: on the pope. They're choosing a new pope, but Ross
Speaker 14: says that I was gonna be good that I mean,
Speaker 14: what do you like?
Speaker 1: Most people don't know.
Speaker 14: Then most people know about the smoke and the white
Speaker 14: smoke and the black smoke.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give us the whole rundown. Those who know
Speaker 1: aren't talking to those and talking. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: even know who the contenders are. Well, they got Sarah
Speaker 1: from from Africa. He's pretty popular. Got the Phillip Sarah
Speaker 1: from the morning morning show. Is Sarah going to be
Speaker 1: the pope? She's going in the papacy can't say, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You talk here every morning, seg you you
Speaker 1: spend every morning with her, correct three or four hours more.
Speaker 1: Didn't you say to her one night you want to
Speaker 1: be called or nudge, I'm gonna you say that they're
Speaker 1: just gonna go drink a fifth right now? Or is
Speaker 1: she gonna go into the nunnery? Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1: Seg Now, that would be something. Sarah Alice, sister of charity,
Speaker 1: Sister Sarah. She gives what's a great movie? Two mules
Speaker 1: for Sister Sarah. How about that segment, Clint Eastwood, remember that?
Speaker 1: Remember that segment? I didn't see that one, No, Rocky
Speaker 1: think I like the Outlaw Josie Wales. I like that
Speaker 1: one's good. One after three o'clock. Maybe the news conference
Speaker 1: involving the family representing the young man who was killed
Speaker 1: because of his own behavior on news radio seven hundred
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