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Speaker 8: So I love that so much, such a great track.
That is brand new from Rivia. That is called Peace
of Mind. Great band from the UK and one of
the tracks that we're featuring this week on Matt Connorton Unleashed.
That is the American radio premiere of that track. Again
that it's a peace of You. I think I said
peace of Mind, piece of You rather. The band is
called Rivia. And if you are listening live, this is
Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios
of wm n H ninety five point three FM on
this Saturday, August nine, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here,
of course at the news table, President and account of
and joining us, making her return to the show she
was on with us a long time ago. Amber Nicole
Cannon is here.
Speaker 9: Hello, Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 8: Welcome back. So what did you talk about when you
were on the show before, because we were talking about
this off air and it was so long ago. It
was in the previous building, but it was like like
how many like would you say, like four or five years?
Speaker 9: Four or five years, it's got to be at this point.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So I'd founded a company called Uncharted and we teach
kids science but trick them into thinking it's art okay,
And actually it has since become a nonprofit and we're growing.
We've got eight people working all the way from Franklin,
New Hampshire down to Lowell, Massachusetts, teaching kids in hands on, explosive,
colorful ways.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's starting to come back to me now because
I think that was I think when you were on
that might have been one of those times that I
told the story of my own. Uh. When I was
a kid, I remember how much I hated art class
because I felt like they were trying to force me
to be artistic and I'm not visually artistic at all.
Speaker 9: And that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 8: I thought so. The art teachers did not.
Speaker 10: It's about exploring what your creativity actually is. Yeah, And
you know, really, be honest, teachers in schools are so
overworked and tired and they just need all our support
and love that they just don't get the resources that
really help every kid in the classroom.
Speaker 8: Right right, no doubt you've got. We should start with
You've got a big show coming up.
Speaker 11: I do.
Speaker 10: It's amazing. It's my first solo show. It is at
the Nashville Public Library on Thursday the fourteenth at six
o'clock okay, And the show's been up for about a
month and a half, so this is like one of
the last chances you get to see it. We're doing
like a closing instead of opening because the summer's been wild. Okay,
there will be cake because it's also my fortieth birthday party.
I just decided you've got to combine these things. We
don't have time to celebrate twice.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But it's actually a big gallery.
Speaker 10: I didn't even know it was there, and I got
to tourt and I was like, I don't even know
if I have enough work to fill this space, but
it turns out I do, and it's been a wild ride.
People have been visiting it and sending me pictures of
them visiting it, and I keep going in every week
to just you know, finicky touch up hanging tag, yeah,
adjust an art piece. But it feels really good.
Speaker 8: So so it's it's been up for a while. Yes, okay, yes,
So how does that work? Can people just go u?
I mean outside of the events. Can people just go
at any point to any the library and see yes? Okay.
Speaker 10: And it's pretty family friendly too, because I work with
kids a lot, So if you want to bring your
kids during the summer break, right right before school starts,
get their last bit of reading in before the you know,
summer ends. You can totally go check out the art pieces.
There are even some pieces that will appeal directly to
kids that you can like buy stickers or prints of
the are like animals of New Hampshire. And it's a
great library it and it's down in the basement. So
when you come in the main doors and you turn
right and you go down the stairwell on the right,
or take the elevator that's that's on the left right there. Okay,
you go down and it's this big open space and
I've got like really big silks that I made with
able and h and then we've got some cyanotypes around
on the other side of the wall. There's like this
big wall in the middle where you can put art
on both sides. So it's big art.
Speaker 9: It's big art. Turns out I make big art.
Speaker 8: Well, okay, so tell us about the type of art
that you make, because I saw this firm biomedical art.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So my background is I have a degree in biomedical
art from the Cleveland Institute of Art. Hence the untarted
thing teaching kids, you know, science through art. I hadn't
really been into my formal art practice, you know, in
the fine arts for a while. I really, you know,
society tells us artists don't make money, so you don't
pursue the fine arts, and so I was really pursuing
the commercial arts thing with illustration and graphic design and
logos and that kind of thing. And I did fine,
and I showed that work regularly, but COVID hit and
I developed disabilities around the same time, more than I
originally had, and I needed a way.
Speaker 9: To get it out.
Speaker 10: So I just started making I had to relearn to
walk in Manchester during COVID Wow, so I had to
walk on the sidewalks in Manchester, which were not conducive
to that process. So I would walk for ten minutes,
sit down and make a painting for an hour, and
come back. And I just did that. Not well, it
was part of my physical therapy. I needed to do
this interesting and so these pieces have developed into what
I think is a big feature in the show called
disability frames, where inside each piece is this cute little
five by five watercolor, but around it is this massive
frame that's more than twice the size of the piece
reflecting the challenges I had getting there, whether it was
a lack of a sidewalk cut or whether it was
just pain that day I just couldn't get out of bed, right,
They all reflect the various infrastructure challenges I face. Sometimes
it was just wet leaves, right, Like wet leaves were.
Speaker 9: Very scary for me. I can re point wow.
Speaker 10: And so that's a big part of the show, is
talking about my body and its development through this phase.
Speaker 8: In my life. One of the things that comes up
a lot on this show is well, really a couple
of things, but they go together. One is using trauma
and challenge and negative experiences to create art out of that.
You know, we interview more musicians than anybody, so we
talk a lot about, you know, creating music from that.
In fact, our guest coming up an hour three, Nancy Manet.
You know, we always talk about that with her too,
because a lot of what she's been through and informs
of the music that she makes, So we always talk
about how that's really kind of the best therapy, right,
taking something negative and creating something positive, because not only
are you creating art, but you're creating something that other
people can relate to, so it not only helps you,
but it potentially helps other people too. And the other
thing that we also that seems to come up a
lot on the show is COVID and how people found
a lot of ways to be creative during COVID that
perhaps would not have happened otherwise. And again, you know,
when we're talking to musicians, it's usually you know, well, I,
you know, my band and I we had to learn
how to email tracks back and forth while we were
recording an album because we couldn't all be in the
same room because it was very scary and went.
Speaker 9: On digital skills right exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it really forced the pandemic really forced a
lot of musicians to open up to things that they
they hadn't considered before. Even me, Like, I'm a certified hypnotherapist,
and I found myself since the pandemic more open to
seeing clients online, you know, instead of feeling like I
had to be in the same room with them to
properly do a session. So, but but those are two
of the things that we talk about a lot, you know,
taking taking negative experiences and creating, and also how the
pandemic kind of forced people to find new ways to
do that or new sources of inspiration to do that.
But in your case, I mean it sounds like this
was a pretty serious ex example of that, right because
because of what COVID did to you and how you
had to overcome that and and create art while you're
doing that. I mean, that's incredible.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it uh, it really pointed out a lot of
the like challenges to getting around the city too for me,
for other people that I maybe just overlooked a lot
because I was just zooming through life, you know, and
I didn't see people struggling until I was in the struggle,
and so I started reaching out to different organizations that
supported disabilities like able and agent got to As I healed,
I was then able to bring some of my healing
to communities outside of myself. And that's why that's why
the show is called Body of Work, because it's about
bodies and healing and then how when you heal inside,
when you begin healing yourself, and I won't ever be
fully healed, like, let's be honest, it's more comfort of
where I'm at and then finding the next challenge. Yeah,
it's it's about then bringing it to others. So that
they can maybe find some healing in what you've created.
It's it's about connecting with people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so now you have experience in the pharmaceutical industry.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 8: Actually, Okay, do you still work in the pharmaceutical industry now?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 10: On Charter takes up most of my time. I also
volunteer as a Department of Public Works commissioner so that
I can advocate for sidewalks and bike lanes in Manchester,
which are very important to people getting around the city.
That's how, you know, I turned my sadness and tears
into I'm going to work on this problem. And then
I got out of pharmaceutical So it's actually kind of
a weird story. But I was working on in the
informed consent process and I didn't feel like it was
true or real, and I couldn't find sponsoring companies for
clinical trials that were like interested in actually making it
a real informed consent process. You know, they get these
like two inch yeah really, but it's thick pieces of
paper written at a grade level. Most people don't understand saying,
you know, I'm gonna agree to participate in this clinical trial,
but then they don't actually understand it, right, And then
they get like surprised by something like a spinal tap,
and no one wants a surprise spinal tap, right, So
I realized I couldn't help the adults. Okay, Ultimately, I
think we adults, even myself, we kind of get stuck
in our ways and it's harder to open up our
brains to new ideas. So I started tutoring some people
who are very gifted in science but wanted to improve
their art skills because I could. I could bridge that
vocabulary channel, if you will, And it worked. And so
then one of the kids I was tutoring, their mom
was a headmaster's school and said, come here teach year.
I was like, yeah, sure, okay, And then within two
weeks I was in Claire's Charter school, and within six
months I was in all the Title one schools in Manchester,
bringing this programming to kids so that when they hit there,
when they're in control of their health, they'll be able
to talk about it, they'll be able to help their
family's health, and they'll be able to navigate the health system.
That's really what it like stemmed out of. Of course,
we've gone wider, like we're talking about watershed management with
the Nature Conservancy who sponsored projects with us and focusing
on all around science education.
Speaker 8: How did so, how did that grow so quickly? I mean,
because that's that's impressive that.
Speaker 10: It's a great question, and if I knew, i'd write
a book about it. But I think it was just
clearly a passion of mine and I was in it
one hundred percent and loved it, and I think that
came through it. And I think there's a real need
for it too, because you know, we do seem to
be lowering the amount of money as a city that
we're putting into schools, so other things need to come
in to make up that deficit, and that's potentially or
it is uncharted coming in and teaching those things. And
the kids are hungry for it too, you know. And
I have I fully support all the teachers in our schools.
They need so much more love and funds and everything
to make their lives easier because it should be easier
for them, but they are set into this mold that's
been created by buyer systems, and unchartered can come outside
of that mold and reach the kids that aren't fitting
that mold. Okay, So, and I think there's a lot
more that don't fit the mold than we realize. Just
like people with disabilities, right, we don't fit this, whatever
the standard, and I'm using quotations very clearly, whatever the
normal is, we don't fit it. And you know, as
I get fully more and more immersed and embracing on
my disabled identity, I'm seeing it in kids too. Actually,
one of the things that's developed is, you know, as
I read IEPs for kids and the things I need
to be doing to make sure they're learning at the
best of their ability, I'm like looking at and going, oh,
that's a good idea. I should do that for myself.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 10: Yeah, So I'm learning a lot about myself when I'm
learning about other people's disabilities, which is also why I
try to be so open about mine. Yeah, so that
other people can find it faster and with less trial
and tribulation than I did. But yeah, the kids have
taught me a lot about myself.
Speaker 8: Oh that's cool. By the way, for people who don't know,
what is an IEP.
Speaker 10: An individual education plan? Okay, yeah, thank you for calling
that out.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no problem. It's funny. Over the years that
term has come up a lot on the show. But
but but yeah, but people don't know. You know, if
it's not something you've had to directly engage with, you
wouldn't know.
Speaker 9: No, no, you wouldn't know.
Speaker 8: So now, so what parents who are putting their kids into? Uh,
because you you have like a summer camp.
Speaker 10: We have summer camps right now. So we ran three
summer camps at Positive Street Art in Nashua because they
are fantastic partners.
Speaker 8: Oh, somebody from Positive Street Art was was on?
Speaker 9: Who was was it? Yazz Manny Cecilia?
Speaker 8: No, there was somebody involved, though I can't remember. It
was a musician. Wasn't it a musician? I can't remember.
Speaker 10: Now there are so many good people that are part
of that organization, supporting it because it's doing so much
good work.
Speaker 8: Yeah? Was it Mike McDowell maybe the healer?
Speaker 12: No, I think I don't remember.
Speaker 8: That's okay, But but whoever it was, Yeah, but it
wasn't any of the three. Yeah, yeas was on the
show a long time ago. But it wasn't any of
the three people you mentioned. But we have somebody on
talking about it. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Uh, they're doing really fantastic work through the city here
and like giving opportunities to you know, kids that had
to pick different paths in life through various circumstances. And
they also work with people with disabilities in really engaging
and wholesome ways.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a big fan. So partnering with them was
like a perfect Kismet opportunity. And have a beautiful space, yeah,
that we get to work out of with the gallery
and the kids getting so inspired.
Speaker 9: By the artwork around them.
Speaker 8: That's really colo.
Speaker 10: And next week we're working with the y w c
A for our sy Art Camp. So you'll see us
downtown here going around the parks collecting little specimens of
bugs and and and spiders and and plants and dirt
and we're gonna look at under microscopes and we're gonna
learn to draw it and represent it in a science
communication kind of way.
Speaker 8: Oh very cool. Yeah, I remember who it was now,
I was Justin Hunt. Is that name familiar to you.
Speaker 9: I'm not as much on the music side, admittedly, gotcha.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Justin's Yeah, he's he's actually not a musician, but
he came on with an interest story he does. He
does a lot of really positive things. I should get
in touch with him. We should have him back on.
Speaker 10: But probably if he's associated with positive street art, probably.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I hope I'm thinking of the right person.
So now before so, what was your experience like with
art before COVID were you? Were you actively?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 10: I never stopped making really truly, so I was. I
was working as a professional, like creative director and those
kinds of things for different companies through through time, and
I always like just kind of doodled. I never stopped
like and you can look at the years on the
artworks in the show too and kind of see that
that was the case, because I do I have a
Bachelor of Fine Arts, like it is arts arts, arts,
and but I really I don't know. So I come
from a long line of scientists, engineers, physicists, that kind
of thing, and they were fully supportive of me going
into the arts, even if it did make me a
little bit of a black sheep.
Speaker 9: But I had my.
Speaker 10: Own internalized message that I needed to make money at
this whatever I was doing with the majority of my time,
I needed to make money, right, and so I really
focused on the commercial stuff, making ads and illustrations that
would bring in money a lot less self expression. I
did a lot with like adornments that I didn't really
consider art, whether it was sewing or creating things for
my house that really, when I look at it, those
are art objects and can are just as valid as
anything else to be displayed in a.
Speaker 9: Gallery.
Speaker 10: And that came out of some of my relationship with
Yazz and through Positive Street are too, recognizing that these
everyday creations that we are making, whether it's even just
in our life choices, they are art and they are
shaping the world around us and should be considered just
as strongly as a traditional painting.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you've always so when you when you decided
to do that and to pursue that degree, did you
have family members try to talk you out of it.
Speaker 9: No one tried to talk me out of it.
Speaker 8: They did.
Speaker 10: They did say, you know, art will never pay as much.
Speaker 9: As engineering, okay, which which is.
Speaker 10: Funny because when my husband and I graduate college exactly
at the same time, technically, I was paid more than
he was, and he's an engineer.
Speaker 9: He quickly surpassed me. But I just negotiated more for.
Speaker 8: My pay okay, okay, And.
Speaker 10: You know, I run a small business. Now, I don't
mind that kind of talk. But they were supportive in
the best ways they could. And they always knew I
was some kind of artists. Like you know, my mom
was like, even as early as first grades, I's drawing
better than I am. I don't, I can't. This isn't
an area I can instruct her, And so they'd find me,
you know, art lessons at the library and things like that.
I watched Bob Ross's religious yeah, oh yeah. And you know,
both my parents have their artistic focus. Like my dad
was photography growing up and now he makes amazing award
winning wooden kayaks. He retire so he can he can
do that beautiful thing, and he did it before he retired.
My mom is is a noted fibers artists that goes
around and gives workshops on spinning and weaving and knitting.
I think I think primarily it's the spinning she's into
in the weaving, oh wow.
Speaker 9: But always an artist.
Speaker 10: They just they chose to pursue the fun making for
their right, which is working well for them because they're retired.
Speaker 9: And comfortable now there you you know.
Speaker 10: Both based on my generation and time graduating and choices
of my own career may never happen.
Speaker 9: But we'll work towards it. Sure, sure, but I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 10: I think even if I were to retire tomorrow, if
I won the lottery or whatever, I'd still do exactly
what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 9: So maybe I am retired.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah. And in terms of in terms of the
art that you create, because you mentioned that you didn't
think or you were uncertain at first when this opportunity
to have your art at the nash is it Nashuell
a public library? Is that digital that you didn't think
you had enough pieces necessarily for I was.
Speaker 9: I was concerned.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I've been focusing on these small pieces out
of COVID, right, these things that I could travel with,
even taking as I relearned to walk, I had to
relearn to ski, so I would take them up on mountains.
I'd ski a couple runs and sit there for an
hour or two at the lodge and paint and then
ski some more. So, like it's a very very compact.
But then I just started looking back over my like
I just started pulling things out of the woodworks, you know,
like how you store everything, and suddenly I've got a
massive pile of stuff that I can put in and
you know, not limiting myself, right, because I've done a
lot of fashion work, okay, and so there's several mannequins
in the show with various pieces I've created for my
body and other people's bodies. And then that's also why
it's called body work because it does it's all has
to do with the body, the human body as a
biomedical artists. That makes sense because I am just kind
of drawn, is like a special interest. And then it's
not just my body, it's other people's bodies and the
art that goes on their bodies.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I wanted to ask you more about that too, because
the name of the show is body of Work, and
I think I think I forgot to mention that earlier.
So yeah, can you expand on that a little bit?
Why let's call that? And what's your inspiration to call
it that?
Speaker 10: It was that that pulling of the art from different
places all over the house. I was like, Okay, this
is what I have. How does this all unite? Like,
if this is all gonna be one show, I either
need to limit it like and give it logs the
white space, or is everything relevant? And I began thinking
about it, and I started looking at pieces that. I
was like, well that's not relevant, but it's got a
skull in it. Well that's that's a body part, right.
This was created in relationship in response to pain in
my body. This was related to my body moving through space.
This was a result of my body needing to rest.
This was me networking with other people and learning about
other people's bodies and helping their bodies engage in art.
And this went on my body. And this is a
T shirt that goes on my body. And this is
a this is a dress form I made of someone
else's body. This is a dress form made of my body.
And I began realizing it was all about the body.
And so it is a little bit of a pun.
I love a good dad pun. So it's like a
body of work that you can call that writ and
artists like, this is my body of work.
Speaker 9: But it's also very.
Speaker 10: Relational to a human body, my human body and the
body of community that is here in New Hampshire through
groups like able and H and others. So it really
came about and I was like, oh, it all, it
all relates. And there are a few pieces I didn't
put in because they didn't relate, even if they were bigger,
like pieces that were more focused on my yard or
my garden. You could make a case for them to
be in. But when I got to it, it really
just I was like, this is it. It's it's about disability,
it's about community, it's about I don't want to say
recovery because that implies like an end, but it's about healing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, are you how are you doing today physically? I
mean at this.
Speaker 10: Point, yeah, it's very interesting. So my n my idiopathic
hypersomnia is well managed.
Speaker 8: The dots of what what is that?
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's a form of it's like narcolepsy, and
it means I sleep a lot when I'm not medicated,
so there's a a lot of meds I have to
be on to manage that and to be able to
drive safely and things like that. But it means I
like a really very day, which is great because that's
what I turn gives me, boping between kids and whiting
grants and interacting with people and that's beautiful. And a
lot of it's focused here Manchester, so I can walk
or bike to get there, keeping everything as safe as possible,
so you know, food for thought out there, bike lanes
are an accessibility device, basically infrastructure, because then I can
bike and it keeps everyone safe and me safe. And
then I've got a number of neuralgias where they cause pain.
My hardest one has been pudental neuralgia, but that's been
well treated over the last couple of years. But I
seem to have developed two more, one in my neck
and one in my lower back that I'm going to
see a new neurologist for at the end of the month.
But we also discovered that my digestion. I haven't been
able to digest fat my whole life, So now I've
got great new big Horse pills to take for that.
But it's great so I can eat out. So my
life is really like overall, like if the last time
we talked, if you had asked me like, how are
you doing, I would have been like, oh, I'm a
sick person, but I'm fighting it. And now I feel
like I've hit this equo librium that is doable, and
it changes from day to day. Holy and I fully
admit I took yesterday off and went to the beach,
so that's probably contributing to my really.
Speaker 9: Great feeling today. You have to take rest days.
Speaker 10: But I couldn't go in the water above my waist
because of my new lower back thing. So I'm you know,
that's sad. And I can't stand up patta board right
now because I'm not allowed to twist. Really, but I'm
so in order to stay functional, like at least appearing,
I have to do a lot of physical therapy. So
like I work with a physical therapist outside the insurance
companies because they don't want to pay for all the
visits I actually need, and I pay her monthly and
she gives me workouts and I do them. So I
work out like an hour to two hours most days,
and it's I love it. I love that I can
do that, like I'm at a place in my life,
but it does it means I have to focus on
my body like time is more than other people. But
ultimately I'm in a good spot.
Speaker 8: Good.
Speaker 9: Thanks for asking.
Speaker 10: It's nice that I get to say that this time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't it? And this was all, by the way,
So this was all the result of COVID.
Speaker 10: Oh, not a result. COVID had an effect. It did
affect my heart, so I lost the ability to walk
because I ran a triathlon and it turns out a
tenon in my leg was turning the bone, which is
not supposed to happen, and they had to remove that.
And then so the amount of time that I was
immobilized before the surgery and then trying to relearn to
walk was caused all that. And then so the narcolepsy
or the idiopathic hypersomnia I ate. Narclepsy is like the
coverall term. It's a form of that. I got started
beting diagnosed in like my late twenties, but I'd probably
been suffering through it all through college. Like I was
a regular ten hour a day sleeper in college. I
never pulled all nighters, very regimented schedules so that I
could function. And I do have like a little bit
of challenge with my heart COVID. It just doesn't respond
the way it should during exercise. Okay, but my physical
therapist gives me exercises. It's like this, really like I've
always been like a battler of exercise, Like give me
the bike and let me go up the hill as
hard as I can. Yeah, but you know she's focused
way more on this gentle stuff that's hopefully just gonna
try to heal the blood vessels and the heart from
all that, and it may be something that I have
for the rest of my life, but I'll continue fighting
it because I want to be a healthy eighty year old.
Speaker 8: Yeah of course. Yeah. Wow, Well, I'm glad you're doing
so much better though. That's excellent. Do you now do
you have more art shows planned after this one?
Speaker 10: I'm gonna look at talking. I haven't done this yet,
so I'll reach out. But the Manchester Arts Commission usually
allows artwork to be displayed at City Hall, and so
for the show in Nashville, I had to purchase insurance
for my artwork, so I figure while I have the insurance,
i'll do it there as well. These places city places
don't have the insurance like a gallery does, Okay, so,
and I want to protect my work, so I think
I'll try to reach out and try to do a
show at City Hall. Okay, But I don't have any
shows after that plan. But if you're looking for more shows,
I always recommend checking out Positive Street Art and Mosaic
Art Collective because they're always doing fantastic things. I just yeah,
I love everything they're doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Jenny's had her art at Mosaic and also
at Terminus Underground in Nashua.
Speaker 9: Fantastic.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, absolutely absolutely. I didn't know insurance. I didn't
know that was a thing for I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 10: So when all of your life's artwork is all at
one room that so many people have access to, I'm
not leaving it on insurance.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 10: Like it's it's like I would, I will part with
just about all of it for a certain price.
Speaker 8: But right right, yeah.
Speaker 10: But at the same time, it's it is my creation
and I don't have children, So I guess that's it.
Speaker 8: Oh, there you go, there you go, very good. So
now where should people go online to I assume I mean,
obviously you want people to go to the show on
the fourteenth, please do Also, I mean, is there art online?
I assume I assume it is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, my my website bioside Creative so b io s
ci creative dot com has has all the artwork there,
and you can even purchase any of it that you want,
including the stickers or prints or the whole on art
if you're that kind of wealthy.
Speaker 9: I'm not.
Speaker 10: I'm not wealthy enough to purchase my own art. That's Okay,
it took so much time for those expensive pieces. But
and then you can also follow me on Instagram and
that's the same bioside creative. And the library has on
their events page the details of the event posted and
and do come and let me know you're coming because
we're getting cake. So I'm trying to cake for everyone.
Speaker 8: Nice. By the way, is there anyone else you've met
or connected with who uses that term biomedical art?
Speaker 10: So the so medical illustration is the old school word
for it, and the degree program I was in at
the Cleveland Institute of Art decided to expand it because
that was a.
Speaker 9: Little old school, okay, and.
Speaker 10: Biomedical artists do a lot more like I ended up
through concentrating on different things with like a minor in
technology integrated media, so like video editing, robotics and programming,
web development, that kind of thing I ended up with,
and that's still biomedical art and still used, like, oh,
it's very relevant. Of course, three D modeling and animation
is huge in that field because it's used a lot
in that degree program changed their name to be a
little more modern, but you can think, you know, time
goes back to like Leonardo da Vinci Alberch, Duerr Gray
of course, of Grey's Anatomy, not the television show Netter.
These are all people, famous people. But if you open
up any science book that you get in you know,
elementary school, high school, college, and there's drawings in it.
Speaker 9: Someone had to do those.
Speaker 10: So that's like the old school, low paid aspect of
the job. But eventually if you start working with startups
and education materials. My favorite is taking like ideas from
a physician and putting it in a way that everyone
else can understand. It really is like a science communication
field where through my drawings and maybe even my writings
now at this point, because I've gotten better at writing,
I can communicate this idea from the idea originator, you know,
a doctor with a new procedure to other people either
in their field that need to learn it or to
a patient who needs to understand what's going on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, now that's interesting to me because I didn't
know you know that term biomedical art. I didn't know
if that was something that a term that you had
come up with specifically for what you do, or if
this was a broader thing. But apparently it is.
Speaker 14: It is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, si art is the other one. Yeah, okay, it's
a hashtag. I think there's a thing on Sundays or something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh, okay, okay. And by the way, do you
hear from people who've if people reached out to you,
either who who've gone and seen in person in Nashua
or maybe just looked online and have said, you know this,
you know I can relate to this.
Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of people have said it, And even
one comment was, you know, just getting to know you
better because there is you know, writing in those some
of those pieces that talks about medical stuff that may
not come up in everyday conversation. I'm fully willing to
talk about it, but I don't want to know down
everyone on your medical stuff all the time. But it's
there if they want to read it. And people reach
out and said, you know, it's really great to know
these things about you, And then you know others have
reached out and been like, you know, you're talking about
this gravel to have a gravel piece that talks about
how hard it was to get to a restaurant because
they said their space was accessible, but it was gravel
and I was in a wheelchair so I couldn't get there.
So I had to be transported by another individual, and
she came up to me and was like, this is
like so exactly what I'm experiencing, like going to the beach,
trying to walk on the beach, and I remember that too.
I had friends that helped me get to the water
because it's so rejuvenating for me. And you don't know
until you've experienced just how hard that is.
Speaker 12: The aspect of your own independence and freedom is huge.
I have problems with my vision, amongst other things. As
you know, I get transportation assistant sometimes through volunteers, through
new futures in sight and to be able to make
an arrangement to go to my appointment or to have
a test on and not have to ask a friend
or look for a favor, but it's an actual volunteer
who wants to do this, and I get to make
the arrangement on my own, And that titch of independence
is so huge, and it's given me back a little
bit of dignity that I didn't have prior to having
access to transportation assistance. And you may not think about that,
but if you're somebody that maybe has a little time
during the day, if you help somebody get to a
doctor's appointment or get to a place to pick up
their prescription. Even that is so huge for that individual
to feel strong in self and not feel like a
burden or a problem or the constant oh God, don't
answer the phone me to ry That is like the
worst thing in the world is losing your ability to
transport yourself.
Speaker 10: Yes, And I can relate so much because before this
current med that I'm on for my sleep challenges, I needed.
If I was an evening event, I always needed to
go with a friend because I was driving home. It
just I wasn't willing to risk it. I've never had
an accent because of it, but I'm not willing to
hurt someone else because of my own hurts. Right, and
now with this met I'm a lot more comfortable, you know,
being able to like and so much and small business
happens at these evenings of events, you know, just networking
and connecting, and it was really hampering my growth. And
now that I can do this, we've exploded in our
connections with other nonprofits.
Speaker 12: And especially when you have a disability or something that's
going on, the end of the day is like the
worst because you don't know what you got.
Speaker 8: You don't know what you got left.
Speaker 12: You know, you've tried to space out your time and like,
I'm well, they're gonna use one spoon. I'm saving some
for later. And then you get to that end of
the day. It's so hard and you have to push
through and it's I love everything that you are doing.
Speaker 8: What you're doing.
Speaker 12: For people like myself, disabled people and people who want
to be expressive, people who want to experience life on
their own terms. You give them that and that is
such a huge thing.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 12: You don't really it's so you know, it's one of
those things that it really stinks, but I can't explain
to you what it feels like unless you've lived it,
and I hope to. Like, heck, you never live ever.
You don't want anybody else in your shoes. But if
that little bit of monoicum of understanding comes out of anything,
it is such a big deal for everybody in our
community and right, and isn't that like most It's one
thing I love about New Hampshire and the City of
Manchester is there's a lot of community here. There's a
lot of people that you put these few people in
a room together and it's amazing what can explode for kiddos,
for people to disability, just for average anybody, you know,
just to have somebody of that in the community that
smiles and says, hey, you exist and I really care
about you. It's something that I think is kind of
unique around here.
Speaker 10: We're still small enough that those individual meetings, groups of
people can get together and make a difference. And I'm
seeing it now on Pine Street right they're repaving it
and they're redoing the curb cuts. I don't know if
you've noticed, but those curb cuts, the tactile stripping has
been falling apart because they chose to try plastic product
and it didn't work. So they're redoing all those curb cuts.
And they're going to put that bike lane on Pine Street,
which is fantastic. That will make me getting around because
I live just off of Pine Street so much easier.
Speaker 9: So's there's other.
Speaker 10: Things like if driving isn't your thing, if you're like antisocial,
like I get it. I sometimes then if getting to
know someone new is hard, you know, using that click
fix on Manchester to point out like a curb cut
that has broken so someone using a stroller or a
wheelchair can't get up or down.
Speaker 9: It can be a.
Speaker 10: Huge thing that the city knows where those things are
to repair them, or that the tactile strips for people
vision challenges, you know, if they're disappearing, then they may
cross it wrong spot and get hurt, and we don't
want that. So noting where sidewalks are because sidewalks are
a big part of independence for people who are mobile
but have other disabilities for getting around the city.
Speaker 12: Especially with folks who are in wheelchairs, because you cannot
bounce a wheelchair up a curve. It hurts and you cannot.
And that's a huge one if I ask of anybody
of anything in this city. My biggest pet peeve is
people who park in handicapped spaces are on the lines.
Oh but I'm just getting I'm just getting my dinner. Yeah,
but the person in the wheelchair can't get out of
their car now because you're parked on the lines. And
maybe that person was going to go to an event
downtown right like local Racks or whatever, and now they
can't get out of their car to go because you've
parked your car on the lines just because you need
a minute.
Speaker 8: Don't do it.
Speaker 12: Please stop doing.
Speaker 8: See that A lot on Elm Street.
Speaker 10: Or parking on the sidewalks. Our sidewalks aren't designed for
the weight of your vehicle, and it destroys them. And
we don't have the budgets to keep repairing sidewalks caused
by vehicular unplanned travel. Right, there were a number of
businesses around Manchester that while I was using an accessibility
placard and unable to walk, that I would you know,
I see it. I see it, the people parking in
the spots without tags, and I would I would go
to do my grocery shopping. Now I couldn'tunload the car,
but I could get the groceries, and if I timed
it just right, my husband could bring them in right
and then, and so I would still contributing to the family,
which I wanted to do, right And I would go,
I'd get and I couldn't find a parking spot because
they were full of people without hangtags. And I went
into some of these places and said, you know that
this is happening, and they're like, oh, that's not a
priority for us, right right, like talk about sending me
home crying that way, Like okay, so grocery can't get done, honey, Sorry.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I can't get milk, can't get eggs, can't get bread.
It's that serious, right, It's that significant to be able
to have food in your home, you have to be
able to get out of the car and back into
it safely with everything that you need. So those spots
are really a big deal. It's not a convenience thing
or I'm just running in. This is about somebody being
able to live their life to the fullest in our
city and enjoy everything our city has to offer and
get the basics stuff. Yeah, well most important.
Speaker 10: And I'll mention it, you know, the door dash drivers
and things. Parking, Yes, spots downtown. I hate that in
the restaurants.
Speaker 12: Especially on Elm Street.
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, stop doing it. Don't be so lazy,
all right, And you can always call parking. Manchester Parking
Apparently they say they like those tickets because they're more
expensive tickets.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they keep raising it, but people still doing it.
I think somewhere around five hundred, I think.
Speaker 10: I yeah, but you can call parking. You know that
that helps a person out too.
Speaker 12: I did once have that happen on Elm Street, and
it was a glorious day because there's never usually somebody
around when you Yeah, and somebody literally pulled in in
front of me and I'm telling this person get out. Yeah,
you're stopping somebody from Like this is a big deal.
You can't block the way to get onto the curve, no,
Like the curb cutouts you're talking about are essential for
people to be able to actually get onto the sidewalk
or they are stuck in the street.
Speaker 10: And you don't want to be stuck in the street
when you're seated below eye level, right, or if.
Speaker 12: You're using a navigational cane. Oh yeah, I have death
procession issues in certain situations I need to I don't
want to be in the street. That's like the worst
place in the world to me, because they're more likely
to be pitfalls, you know, to fall into and then
you get a new injury and a new issue, a
new problem.
Speaker 10: That's definitely happened to me too. Yes, And it's not
just people with disabilities that benefit from these things too,
like moms and dads with strollers, that's a big thing.
Little dogs that have trouble jumping up the curve. Those
little dogs are benefiting too. Like, you know, I say
this jokingly, but there's a lot of benefit to those
infrastructure plans that we have, and we we need to
respect them so that the whole world is a better place.
Speaker 12: And if you want people to be involved in the
world around you, you have to make it accessible. Yeahred percent,
I love how you use your artwork. I really love
how you use your artwork to express the importance of
these things, but in the most creative ways. And it's
interesting to hear you talk about the anatomy and the
art of the anatomy, right, because I never thought about
that would go to school, Like I never thought about
my anatomy book.
Speaker 9: Who threw this stuff? Someone?
Speaker 12: Somebody did do this stuff. But I have a friend,
Megan Bent, who's an artist that does chlorophyll work on
leaves where you she's imprinting imagery onto the leaf and
she's done things like with spines and things like that.
Speaker 8: I think you totally like, ve.
Speaker 9: Got to check that out. I don't know anything about her.
Speaker 12: When you were talking. That's I was thinking about that.
I like, you have to know this person. You have
to meet this artist. She's an amazing artist, amazing activist,
very much in the fight to make sure people have
health care accessibility. So you know, you and I could
probably talk about that forever in a.
Speaker 9: Day, forever, it would never end. We'd write a book,
probably ten.
Speaker 8: Well, we got to the time does go quickly. We
need to start to wrap up. But before we do,
I want to make sure, so again, remind everybody about
the fourteenth and Nashua.
Speaker 10: Six block Nashua Public Library downstairs. You can get there
with an elevator or the stairs. And I'm gonna have
cake because we've decided to turn it into my fortieth
birthday celebration as well.
Speaker 8: Happy birthday, thank you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, fortieth and glorious and yeah, just you know,
if you can send me a quick message let me
know you're coming, so I can make sure I have
enough cake.
Speaker 9: That's awesome.
Speaker 10: If you don't, you know, just come anyways, we'll figure
it out. We'll cut half slices.
Speaker 9: I don't care.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's it's gonna be a showing on my work. Actually,
gon have Jasmine Man there playing a little bit of music.
I want to her on the show and I love her,
and I'm gonna have mocktails as well, so like see, yeah,
it's gonna be great and it's at the public Library,
So anyone can come in and check it out. It's
it's gonna be a party. I really hope everyone comes
out and just kind of flourishes a little bit together.
Speaker 8: Outstanding, outstanding, And tell people again where they should go online.
Speaker 10: To bios Yeah yeah, biosci Creative dot com. So it's
b io s C. I not a lot of people
like p s I No, no, no, it's s C.
I like science Bio Sidecreative dot com. And then on
Instagram to do follow me on Instagram, I post like
sneak shots of the show. Once the show comes down,
I'll post full shots, but right now it's just sneak
shots because I want you to go if you can. Yeah,
but not everyone can. I get that, so you will
get shots later on. Okay, it's an accessibility thing, sure,
and then you know, you can always look at uncharted
as well if you were more interested in the kiddo
stuff I get to do.
Speaker 12: Okay, And the event at the Nationale Public Library is
at six pm.
Speaker 9: Six pm, that's right, excellent until seven thirty.
Speaker 8: All right, well, very good, very good, well Amber, Nicole Cannon,
thank you so much.
Speaker 9: Thank you for having me. This is fun.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we'll do it again. In the future absolutely,
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