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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've been separated from my group.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's been a couple of hours now I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to find my way out and I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna stay here. I don't think that I

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<v Speaker 2>went too far I am. I'm not sure that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the name of the cave.

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<v Speaker 3>The last the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last entry point was somewhere near to them, Quantanamo in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone can notify the police or the authorities, or

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<v Speaker 2>someone can help, I'm gonna stay here. I have water

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<v Speaker 2>and some food. I'm gonna stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends, Steve Stockton here with you now. For some

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<v Speaker 1>a walk in the wilderness can be the perfect getaway

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<v Speaker 1>from everyday life and a chance to reconnect with mother Nature.

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<v Speaker 1>For others, great outdoors can be a dangerous place and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately as a place where many people meet their end

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<v Speaker 1>or just mysteriously vanish. Here are cases for you to consider.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Rascoe. On November nineteenth, twenty fifteen, park rangers at

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<v Speaker 1>the Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky noticed that a

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<v Speaker 1>car had been sitting in the car park for around

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks. This immediately set off warning bells, and after

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<v Speaker 1>doing some digging for information, they discovered that the car

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to forty year old Randy Rascoe. As the car

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<v Speaker 1>had been there for quite some time, the park rangers

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<v Speaker 1>set about searching for Randy right away, but when he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be found in or near the parking area, they

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<v Speaker 1>opened an investigation and widened their search. Park rangers and

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<v Speaker 1>investigators contacted Randy's family to see if they had spoken

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<v Speaker 1>to him, but chillingly, they had been out of contact

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<v Speaker 1>for a few months. According to his sister Sherry, up

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<v Speaker 1>until May twenty fifteen, everything was normal on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing his normal things, hunting, fishing, and kept

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with her brother, who lived close to his

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<v Speaker 1>Bowling Green apartment. Then one day, out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 1>he packed up his belongings, quit his job, and had

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<v Speaker 1>his mail forward it to another address, and just left.

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry said they filed a missing person's report after they

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<v Speaker 1>found out he had just fled, and were worried as

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<v Speaker 1>he had recently gotten divorced. For a month, the Rascoe

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<v Speaker 1>family waited for any news, and in June he was

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<v Speaker 1>found safe and sound in Washington State. Randy made it

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<v Speaker 1>clear that he didn't want to speak to his family

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<v Speaker 1>at that time and wanted to be alone. As painful

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<v Speaker 1>as it was, his family respected his boundaries and assured

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<v Speaker 1>him they would welcome him back with open arms whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he was ready. For the next few months, it's believed

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<v Speaker 1>that Randy traveled all around the US, all while maintaining

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<v Speaker 1>his privacy and secrecy. His family didn't know that anything

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong until the Mammoth Cave National Park rangers contacted

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<v Speaker 1>them to let them know that his car had been

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<v Speaker 1>found abandoned. With this second disappearance, his family hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>there would be a positive resolution, but sadly, Randy Rascoe

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<v Speaker 1>is still missing. Search crews, volunteers, and even the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>Air Patrol all joined the end of the search for Randy,

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<v Speaker 1>scaringly over fifty three thousand acres of land of the park.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite their best efforts and multiple searches, no sign of

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<v Speaker 1>Randy has ever been found, and his car is the

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<v Speaker 1>only clue we have in terms of his mysterious disappearance.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Rascoe is described as a white male six foot

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<v Speaker 1>two inches taught, with black hair, hazel eyes, and a slim,

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<v Speaker 1>athletic build. Anyone with any information is as to please

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<v Speaker 1>contact the Mammoth Cave National Park at two seven zero

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<v Speaker 1>seven five eight two.

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine van Alst, eight year old Van Alst, disappeared from

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's Den State Park, near Arkansas's Ozark National Forest when

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<v Speaker 1>she and her family were camping. Catherine apparently was playing

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<v Speaker 1>with her brothers when she wandered off and got lost.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes Catherine's disappearance remarkable is she was found six

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<v Speaker 1>days later. When found, she was wandering the woods and

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<v Speaker 1>was eerily calm. University of Arkansas student Border Chadwick was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the search party that found Catherine. He told

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Press that when he found her, she walked

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<v Speaker 1>starically out of a cave and just said, here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Many other hikers have gotten lost in that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ozarks and haven't been as lucky as Catherine. A

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<v Speaker 1>grown woman was lost there for seventeen days and died

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<v Speaker 1>just fifty yards from the road. How did Catherine survive

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods for six days? Did someone take her

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<v Speaker 1>only to return her six days later? Or as explanation

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<v Speaker 1>of this story that we simply can't comprehend. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>someone or something might just be lurking in Devil's Den

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Veach. Forty seven year old Kenny Veach mysteriously disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mohave Desert in Nevada on November fourteenth, twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny was hiking near Area fifty one and was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for cave systems and mine shafts. Kenny has uploaded several

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<v Speaker 1>videos to his YouTube channel under the username snake Bitt McGee,

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<v Speaker 1>where he describes entering a cave with an M shaped opening.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote in one comment that ain't nothing. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>long distance hiker. One time, during one of my hikes

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<v Speaker 1>out by Nellis Air Force Base, I found a hidden cave.

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<v Speaker 1>The entrance to the cave was shaped like a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>capital M. I always enter every cave I find, but

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<v Speaker 1>as I began to enter this particular cave, my whole

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<v Speaker 1>body began to vibrate. Suddenly, I became very scared and

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<v Speaker 1>I tailed out of there. That was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>strangest things that ever happened to me. Now, these videos

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<v Speaker 1>gained popularity following his mysterious disappearance, and in these videos

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<v Speaker 1>he does indeed talk about how his whole body vibrated

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<v Speaker 1>and he felt scared upon entering this mysterious m cave

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<v Speaker 1>armed with a gun and a camera. This time, Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>headed back out to the m cave on November tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, hoping to get a better look inside. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny never returned home. Although he was a very experienced

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<v Speaker 1>hiker and outdoorsman, Kenny rarely took a map or GPS

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<v Speaker 1>device with him on his hikes. According to his family,

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<v Speaker 1>on the day of his disappearance, he told him that

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<v Speaker 1>he would only be gone for a short overnight trip,

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<v Speaker 1>but then when he didn't return home, they immediately called

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<v Speaker 1>the police. Police volunteers, and search and rescue teams all

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<v Speaker 1>scattered the area where Kenny was last known to have been.

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<v Speaker 1>On November twenty second, twenty fourteen, volunteers found Kenny's phone.

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<v Speaker 1>According to those volunteers, the trail went cold soon after

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<v Speaker 1>they located his phone, and there have been no signs

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<v Speaker 1>of Kenny ever since. At the time of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the mysterious disappearance of Kinny Beach is very much alive

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<v Speaker 1>in true crime and paranormal circles, but it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>we are still no closer to uncovering the truth Devil's

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<v Speaker 1>Whole and the tragic disappearance of two teens in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Now, there's just something about a place with

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<v Speaker 1>the name devil in its title that pigus the curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>of some people. There are countless locations all over the

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<v Speaker 1>world which have this particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Word in their name.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only devil, either, there are many other words that

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<v Speaker 1>symbolize or mean devil or evil, or some other form

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<v Speaker 1>of something not very good or beautiful, given somewhaite ironically

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the world's most breathtaking and wondrous places.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the location will have got its name innocently enough,

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<v Speaker 1>such as because the geology of the place simply looks

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<v Speaker 1>foreboding and sinister, especially under the cover of night. Much

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, these particular places are said to be cursed, enchanted,

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<v Speaker 1>or downright evil, and the spooky and scary landscape only

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<v Speaker 1>lends credence to these rumors and legends. So much of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, though, these places with this particular word in

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<v Speaker 1>the title are associated with not just devils, demon spirits,

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<v Speaker 1>and other other worldly phenomena, but with real tragedies, disappearances, deaths,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe bizarre sounds and strange lights in the sky. Today, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to focus on one place in particular, we're

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<v Speaker 1>a mysterious tragedy struck Devil's Hole, which is located in

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<v Speaker 1>the aptly named Death Valley National Park in California, United States.

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<v Speaker 1>This portion of the Mohave Desert contained in Death Valley

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<v Speaker 1>National Park is the driest and hottest place in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Near bad water in the Long Trench of

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<v Speaker 1>the desert, between the Panamint Range on the west and

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Mountains on the east, is the lowest dry

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<v Speaker 1>land in the Western Hemisphere, an amazing two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty two feet below sea level. A veritable showcase of

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<v Speaker 1>desert extremes, Death Valley National Park includes one of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest salt pans on Earth, dramatically faulted landscapes, young volcanic craters,

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<v Speaker 1>and massive dune fields. Today, we're going all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to the year nineteen sixty five. Death Valley was

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<v Speaker 1>very different from the Los Angeles of the time, where

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<v Speaker 1>there were uprisings happening all over the place and all

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<v Speaker 1>of it being shown live on the evening news. Death Valley, California,

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<v Speaker 1>was in one of the least populated parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>state at the time, and a whole different world from

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<v Speaker 1>the more largely inhabited cities which surrounded it. On June twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five, four high school buddies set out to

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<v Speaker 1>remote desert location about nine isles northwest of Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Their intent was to joydive into a deep geothermal abyss

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<v Speaker 1>called Devil's Hole. Sadly, two of the young men would

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<v Speaker 1>never re emerge from this mysterious fossil water portal. Arriving

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<v Speaker 1>at their destination, the foursome hiked up a hot barren

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<v Speaker 1>hillsite which overlooked a large scale ranching operation that would

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<v Speaker 1>nearly erase a much smaller and nearly ancient complex called

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<v Speaker 1>ash Meadows within a few short years. A well trampled

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<v Speaker 1>trail led to the entrance of a limestone chasm that

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<v Speaker 1>had allegedly opened a whopping sixty thousand years ago after

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<v Speaker 1>possibly some seismic event caused the roof of the cave

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<v Speaker 1>to collapse in on itself. The foursome of boys, which

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<v Speaker 1>was made up of Paul gian Conteri, a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old cafeteria worker at the nearby Nevada Test site, his

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<v Speaker 1>new brother in law, twenty year old David Rose, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a Las Vegas Casino parking attendant for with their

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<v Speaker 1>other friend, nineteen year old Bill Alter and his younger

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<v Speaker 1>brother Jack, Boys scrambled under a fenced enclosure posted with

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<v Speaker 1>warning signs, and thinking they were immune to any trouble

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<v Speaker 1>these warning signs might be posted about, they proceeded to

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<v Speaker 1>descend the thirty or so feet down to a ledge

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<v Speaker 1>where the faint but flitting movement of tiny blue gray

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<v Speaker 1>pupfish could be observed swimming in the eight by sixty

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<v Speaker 1>foot pool, That is, if any of the four young

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<v Speaker 1>men had bothered to look just a bit closer at

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<v Speaker 1>what they were about to jump into. After suiting up

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<v Speaker 1>with scuba tanks, masks, and dive lights, Paul, David, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill dove into the claustrophobic waters. The temperature was nearly

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<v Speaker 1>indistinguishable from that of their skin. Upon entering the pool,

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<v Speaker 1>the boys most likely disturbed the delicate algae s falling mats,

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<v Speaker 1>where the entire population of the exceedingly rare Cyprinodon diabolus

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<v Speaker 1>continues to prosper and breed exclusively. Jack was the only

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<v Speaker 1>one who hadn't jumped in, as he was delegated the

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<v Speaker 1>one who would remain stationed on the ledge in case

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<v Speaker 1>anything went wrong. Some time after midnight, Paul failed to resurface,

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<v Speaker 1>so David and Bill quickly redove into the waters in

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<v Speaker 1>a vain attempt to locate their missing friend. Bill Alter

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<v Speaker 1>frantically followed David Rose down to approximately one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy feet until David too disappeared into the darkness. The

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<v Speaker 1>bodies of the brothers in law were never recovered. Many

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<v Speaker 1>people believed back then and still do believe that these

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<v Speaker 1>young men were inspired to go diving at night, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the dangers in the specific place, because of a newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>article from the year before which detailed a speleological research

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<v Speaker 1>expedition of a massive underground lake below Death Valley led

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<v Speaker 1>by California based professional diver Jim House, who would ironically

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<v Speaker 1>dive numerous times around the clock with military personnel and

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<v Speaker 1>other volunteer divers in their attempt to locate the missing

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the two young men who disappeared without

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<v Speaker 1>an alleged Indian legend that resurfaced during the nineteen twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mohave Desert could this possibly be true, just

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<v Speaker 1>as with the case of these poor young men just

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps irresponsible but never thought to be deadly fun,

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<v Speaker 1>we may never actually know. Hello, friends, there's something so interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. And who in this community hasn't sat for

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<v Speaker 1>hours and watched shows about serial killers I've never been caught,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can't help but do it anyway. On this channel,

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<v Speaker 1>and we try to do it in depth. Sometimes though

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<v Speaker 1>well lest they be forgotten. Sometimes it's not a person

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but an entity which has some strangers our

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<v Speaker 3>Can't let go and need to know more.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a collection of some of the most mysterious deaths

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<v Speaker 3>Could you or.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone you know hold the clue to unlock these mysteries?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one The Mary Celeste. On December fifth, eighteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>the American merchant ship named the Mary Celeste was found

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<v Speaker 1>which was still at partial sale, and stopped the ship

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<v Speaker 1>in order to.

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<v Speaker 3>Investigate what the issue was.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marry Celeste was found to be carrying a full

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<v Speaker 1>cargo load of cask of industrial alcohol and enough food

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<v Speaker 3>People a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>While the crew's belongings were all found on and around

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<v Speaker 1>to be missing, the ship was completely and totally devoided people.

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<v Speaker 1>The ship had left New York and was headed to

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<v Speaker 1>Italy with ten people aboard. There were seven members of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew, the ship's captain, his wife, and their daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>sight or a sign of any of them was ever found.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been theories and rumors circulating about this case

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<v Speaker 1>since the ship was located, but never anything factual to

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<v Speaker 1>go by. Even Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a ship called Mary Celeste where everyone on board

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<v Speaker 1>had been murdered by deranged serial killer. Unfortunately, this spectationous

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<v Speaker 1>account by a well known author was sometimes taken to

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<v Speaker 1>be what actually happened. The truth of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 1>though no one knows what fate really befell the passengers

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<v Speaker 1>on this ship. Many researchers speculate those board fled for

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<v Speaker 1>fear of the alcohol fumes leaking from the cask causing

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<v Speaker 1>a possible explosion. Still, others say they must have fallen

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<v Speaker 1>victim to Moroccan pirates who were some unknown and nonsensical reason,

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<v Speaker 1>carried off the people but none of the cargo before

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<v Speaker 1>whatever fate befell these four ten souls suppor of that

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<v Speaker 1>ship that fathful December day. The Mary Celeste was associated

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<v Speaker 1>with much death and hardship, and has been subject to

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<v Speaker 1>rumor of bad luck and even a curse. While we

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<v Speaker 1>may never know the truth. It's said today that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the crew with a captain who was a devout Christian

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<v Speaker 1>and never drank alcohol, clearly and loudly stated he would

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<v Speaker 1>never abandon his ship unless it were to be for

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<v Speaker 1>saving lives, were all abducted by some sort of extraterrestrials.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a good theory as any others at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Marx. On May twelve, two thousand, an Australian astrophysicist

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<v Speaker 1>named Rodney Marx was stuck in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 1>very dark and extremely frigid Antarctic winter. He was stationed

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<v Speaker 1>at the Mundsen Scott Station, which was at the time

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<v Speaker 1>There were only forty nine other people there with Rodney,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were all basically trapped there at that location

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<v Speaker 1>Flights too or from the South Pole because they're extremely

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<v Speaker 1>he had died of some type of mysterious illness. Once

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<v Speaker 1>it was discovered he had been murdered poisoned by methanol,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other forty nine people there with him

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<v Speaker 1>highly unlikely he had drunk the substance accidentally. All the

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<v Speaker 1>others there with him for the winter were interviewed, but

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<v Speaker 1>of course nothing ever came from any of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually foul play was ruled out of the factor in

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<v Speaker 1>his untimely demise. The case is sometimes called the first

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<v Speaker 1>murder committed at the South Pole, and the events that

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded his poisoning are said to have never been determined.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened to Rodney? How does someone die from

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<v Speaker 1>Impossible Murder. In nineteen thirty one, in Liverpool there lived

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<v Speaker 1>The couple seem normal enough until one day in January

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<v Speaker 1>that same year, when something happened that is so bizarre, mysterious,

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace was an insurance salesman who'd received a message one

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<v Speaker 1>William was hesitant and normally wouldn't have even entertained doing

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<v Speaker 1>at the time and he figured he would take what

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty one, William left his home and headed to

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming that it was a lead on a sale, William

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<v Speaker 1>it home frustrated and had bit confused. William claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>upon returning home, he found his wife murdered, plunging to

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<v Speaker 3>The living room.

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<v Speaker 1>William was eventually convicted of his wife's murder, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it was overturned on appeal. There trust wasn't enough evidence. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't any evidence, not really, and the cases continued

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<v Speaker 1>to fascinate both armchair detectives researchers and web slutes alike.

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<v Speaker 1>Historical researchers have since speculated that the murder was committed

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<v Speaker 1>by a co worker of Wallace's, which he had fired

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<v Speaker 1>and accused him investment from the company. In twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a British crime writer named P. D. James said she

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<v Speaker 1>and just happened to be helped along by a coincidental

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>This is just a quick synopsis of this one, and

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<v Speaker 1>entire books written about this one case, number four Toman Should,

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's most mysterious death, is known as the toman Should case.

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<v Speaker 1>This title comes from a Persian word that was printed

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<v Speaker 1>on a small scrap of paper found in the dead

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<v Speaker 1>man's pocket. The man was found dead on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>south of Adelaide in December of nineteen forty eight. The

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<v Speaker 1>only things found on the body were a train ticket,

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<v Speaker 1>a few cigarettes, a comb, and that tiny scrap of

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<v Speaker 1>paper with the Persian word. There was no identification either.

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<v Speaker 1>Taman should translates to the end from Persian to English,

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<v Speaker 1>which really was the clue in and of itself. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of paper was found to be from a

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<v Speaker 1>very rare edition of a book of poetry called the

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<v Speaker 1>Rubaiyat of Omar Khayam, and the last two words from

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<v Speaker 1>that book are the words taman should. Even more mysterious, wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The pathologist who performed the autopsy said that he suspected

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<v Speaker 1>that the unnamed man had died from poisoning somehow, and

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<v Speaker 1>this too, how it came about as shrouded a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>as well. The police appealed to the public and located

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<v Speaker 1>what seemed to be the book. The scrap of paper

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<v Speaker 1>came from which was found on the man. Inside the book,

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<v Speaker 1>which they came across by some unknown and unnamed means,

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<v Speaker 1>also contained a phone number. This number led them to

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<v Speaker 1>an Australian woman who claims she didn't know and had

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<v Speaker 1>never meant the deceased man found on the beach, and

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<v Speaker 1>further claim that while she had once owned a copy

441
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<v Speaker 1>of the book, she had lent it to someone. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>no specific person was named to lead to who it

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<v Speaker 1>was she allegedly led the book to. There was also

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<v Speaker 1>some handwritten code throughout the book, which seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a series of letters, but the code was never cracked

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still unknown what it all said and meant.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nine, an author by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Derek Abbott, who was also a professor at the

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<v Speaker 1>School of Electrical and Electronic Engineering in Adelaide, came forth

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<v Speaker 1>with a theory of his own and proposed the coded

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<v Speaker 1>letters were traces of a manual encryption or decryption of

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<v Speaker 1>a message using a one time pad. This is said

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<v Speaker 1>to be an espionage technique that can be based on

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<v Speaker 1>texts from a specific book. In this case, most likely

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<v Speaker 1>it was from the same rare edition of the original

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<v Speaker 1>book in question. Some people believe this gives way to

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<v Speaker 1>the theory that there was some sort of spir ring

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<v Speaker 1>operating in Australia at the time, and that the taman

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<v Speaker 1>Should case had something to do with that. This is

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<v Speaker 1>another case where there are just no answers at all,

461
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<v Speaker 1>and the full story is one like you'll never find

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<v Speaker 1>again or heard before. Who was this mysterious man, What

463
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<v Speaker 1>connection did he have, if any, to the equally mysterious woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he murdered or did he take his own life?

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<v Speaker 1>What in the world did all this have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with that rare edition of the book of Poetry. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>cases come along where there just are no definitive answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually we can live with that because when we follow

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<v Speaker 1>the facts and evidence, it leads to some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable conclusion. Then there are cases like the ones above,

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<v Speaker 1>where there are not only any rational answers or any

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<v Speaker 1>factual evidence, there are also no reasonable conclusions that could

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<v Speaker 1>be drawn, and we are all left frustrated and scratching

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<v Speaker 1>our heads until we move on to the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>He slat Out told us moms, she's dead. She needs

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<v Speaker 4>our house. And that's when I got the goosebumps, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my gosh. He was just in

478
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<v Speaker 4>our car and he was pointing out to a certain

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<v Speaker 4>spot in the meadow.

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<v Speaker 5>While Victoria Gorba and her family stopped for lunch, her

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<v Speaker 5>son Kayden began talking to someone.

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<v Speaker 4>And my husband and I kind of looked at each

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<v Speaker 4>other like what, and he goes, yeah, there's a lady

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<v Speaker 4>over in the meadow in a black shirt, and I

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<v Speaker 4>got goosebucks. He says, she needs our help. But she's

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<v Speaker 4>dead and she's laying face down with her legs up

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<v Speaker 4>and she can't talk to me. But she's over there.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to go help her.

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<v Speaker 5>Jake and Victoria checked out the meadow but saw nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>He kept saying, trust me, trust me, mom, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I trust you, Bud. You know, I believe

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<v Speaker 4>you one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Spooked, the couple decided to end the trip early and

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<v Speaker 5>head home.

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<v Speaker 4>And we put it on Facebook seeing if anybody knew

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<v Speaker 4>anything about the area, and come to find out that

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lady missing with the description that he

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<v Speaker 4>described to us was in a five mile radius of

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<v Speaker 4>where we were.

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<v Speaker 5>Sandra Hughes had gone missing in July of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Cayden had described her in detail and recognized her in

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<v Speaker 5>three of four photos.

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<v Speaker 4>He was very adamant that we needed to help her,

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<v Speaker 4>and he describes down to blue hair. He said, she

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<v Speaker 4>has a black shirt, blue jeans, and blue hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the exact description of her when she went missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends, We recently learned of what may be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the strangest updates to a missing person case that

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever brought forth. Now, sometimes in these missing person

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<v Speaker 1>cases that we cover, there will be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a paranormal or supernatural element. It's usually something small

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<v Speaker 1>and not very significant to the overall case, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that the unknown can play a larger part

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<v Speaker 1>in these cases, stories of UFOs, the Fae, Bigfoot, or

516
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<v Speaker 1>rather Cryptid's portal, translucent entities, et cetera. But is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible that the ghost of a missing woman may be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help solve her disappearance, or at least help

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<v Speaker 1>locate her remains. We ask that you keep an open

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<v Speaker 1>mind and consider it the following case. Back in episode

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<v Speaker 1>number seven of our ten Unsolved National Park Disappearances series,

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<v Speaker 1>we brought you the story of Sandra Hughes to recap.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty four year old Sandra Johnson Hughes of California was

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<v Speaker 1>last heard from on June twenty six, twenty twenty. Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>had embarked on a solo camping trip in the Sierra

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<v Speaker 1>south of Yosemite to escape from the current pandemic. Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>had recently moved from Maui, Hawaii, to California in June

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty. She had trained to be a park

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<v Speaker 1>ranger in college and was experiencing the outdoors. On July

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<v Speaker 1>fifth of that year, the Madera County Sheriff's Office asked

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<v Speaker 1>for the public's help in locating Sandra after they found

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<v Speaker 1>her campsite near the Johnson's Meadow section of the forest

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<v Speaker 1>in disarray. On that same day, the authorities located Hughes

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Sob and Shequido Creek to the north of the

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<v Speaker 1>camp site. They said it appeared to have crashed into

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<v Speaker 1>a tree at a speed of less than twenty miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour before it rolling into the ravine. Hikers reported

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Sandra on July fourth, twenty twenty, and said she

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<v Speaker 1>was barefoot and had a bruise on her face. They

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<v Speaker 1>offered to help her, but she declined. Medical assistance officers

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<v Speaker 1>and volunteer search and rescue teams from more than half

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen other sheriff's departments, together with dog teams, the

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<v Speaker 1>California Highway Patrol and the Governor's Office of Emergency Services,

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<v Speaker 1>combed the forest on foot, while helicopters from California Air

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<v Speaker 1>National Guard did an aerial search. The search focused around

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<v Speaker 1>the area where her car was found, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>no sign of Sandra. Then, on August ninth, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>hunters saw a woman leaning against a tree along Road

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<v Speaker 1>five S zero one near Biesore Road. She did not

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<v Speaker 1>wave them down, attempt contact, or appear to be in

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<v Speaker 1>any distress. Upon returning, they recognized her from a missing

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<v Speaker 1>persons fire and contacted park rangers. The hunter said that

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<v Speaker 1>she appears to be visibly thinner than her last known

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<v Speaker 1>photos at the time of her disappearance. Sandra was a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four year old white female with blue shoulder lenked hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Her natural color is brown. She has brown eyes, is

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<v Speaker 1>approximately five foot three inches tall, and weighs about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty pounds. The search for Sandra was ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>but limited. Now flashed forward to almost exactly one year later.

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<v Speaker 1>This strange update to the case comes from the Madair

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office in Madeir, California. It seems that a

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<v Speaker 1>family from nearby Course Gold, California, experienced a bizarre broad

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<v Speaker 1>daylight ghost sighting in the Madeir County Mountains on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty first, twenty twenty one. The event was so

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<v Speaker 1>strange and disturbing that the Madair County Sheriff's Office felt

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<v Speaker 1>the need to further investigate. It seems that a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Jake Gorba, his wife Victoria, and their three children

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take their four wheeler up to the shut

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<v Speaker 1>Eye Peak on that faithful Wednesday. While on this family outing,

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped to have something to eat beside the trail,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when things started to get strange. The couple's

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<v Speaker 1>three year old son, Caden, suddenly began animatedly talking to

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<v Speaker 1>someone nearby. He was just in our four wheeler and

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<v Speaker 1>he was pointing out to a certain spot in the meadow,

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<v Speaker 1>said his mom Victoria. The normally reserved and somewhat quiet

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<v Speaker 1>Caden excitedly told his parents that they're in the meadow

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<v Speaker 1>by where the family was having lunch was a woman

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<v Speaker 1>lying face down with her legs straight up in the air. Furthermore,

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<v Speaker 1>Caden stated that the woman was unable to speak or

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<v Speaker 1>move and needed help. He began pleading with his parents

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<v Speaker 1>to help this poor woman. He flat out told us, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>she's already dead, but she needs our help. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I got the goose bumps. I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Victoria said. He goes, yeah, there's a lady

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<v Speaker 1>over in the meadow in a black shirt, blue jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue hair, and I got goose bumps, said Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, she needs our help, but she's dead and

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<v Speaker 1>she's lying face down with her legs up. She can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me, but she's over there. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>go help her. So in order to calm young Caden down,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake and Victoria walked over and checked out the metal

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<v Speaker 1>but saw absolutely nothing. Caden continued to insist. He kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, trust me, Mom, And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>trust you, I trust you. I believe you one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 1>said Victoria. Whatever young Caden was experiencing so unnerved and

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<v Speaker 1>spoke the rest of the family that the other members

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<v Speaker 1>of the family all unanimously agreed it's time to put

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<v Speaker 1>an early end to their day of adventure and make

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty five mile drive back home to Course Calf.

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<v Speaker 1>After arriving home, the event still fresh in her mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria decided to post about the weird encounter on her

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook profile. We put it on Facebook to see if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knew anything about this area, and come to find out,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lady missing with a description that he

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<v Speaker 1>described to us within a five mile radius of where

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<v Speaker 1>we were, said Victoria. Now, viewers of this channel No

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<v Speaker 1>from our previous episode number seven, Sandra Hughes had gone

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<v Speaker 1>missing in that area in June of twenty twenty. The

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<v Speaker 1>encounter became even more chilling when, according to Victoria, three

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<v Speaker 1>year old Kaden's highly detailed description of the woman he

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<v Speaker 1>had seen in the meadow was identical to the description

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<v Speaker 1>of Sandra Hughes as given by the local authorities. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very adamant that we needed to help her, and

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<v Speaker 1>he described her down to blue hair. He said, she

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<v Speaker 1>has a black shirt, blue jeans, and blue hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the exact description of her when she went missing,

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<v Speaker 1>said Victoria. Then Victoria and searched online for Sandra Hughes

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<v Speaker 1>and found some photographs that have been released as a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the search effort the year prior. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>said she got goosebumps when Cayden readily recognized three of

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<v Speaker 1>the photos of Sandra, identifying her as the woman he

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<v Speaker 1>had seen in the field. As fate would have it,

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<v Speaker 1>Madera County Sheriff Corporal Chris Williams just happened to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook post and found it intriguing, to say the least,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that he contacted Cayden's family to further

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<v Speaker 1>investigate the chilling account. Victoria said the corporal in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of her case actually reached out to us on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, Hey, we want more information and we

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring you guys back up there and see

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<v Speaker 1>if you could point us in the right direction. Corporal

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<v Speaker 1>Williams has been investigating the disappears of Sandra Hughes since

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the investigation. On the following Thursday, two

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<v Speaker 1>Madera County Sheriff's deputies ventured back up to the meadow

635
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<v Speaker 1>to investigate, with Jake and Caden coming along to point

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<v Speaker 1>them in the right direction. Unfortunately, and the deputies found

637
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<v Speaker 1>nothing new by way of evidence, although the case remains open.

638
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<v Speaker 1>If she was possibly a ghost looking for some help,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that he could have at least helped and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe helped the family find her, because it's been a

641
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<v Speaker 1>long time apparently since she's been gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria said.

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<v Speaker 1>The four wheeler that Cayden and his family used while

644
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<v Speaker 1>traveling in the mountains has now been nicknamed the Ghost

645
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<v Speaker 1>Runner and incidentally, is also for sale. It's not believed

646
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<v Speaker 1>that the spooking encounter is the reason they put the

647
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<v Speaker 1>vehicle up for sale, as the family says they will

648
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<v Speaker 1>continue to go adventuring in the Madeira Mountains, but do

649
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<v Speaker 1>admit there are a few spots now which they aren't

650
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<v Speaker 1>anxious to visit again anytime soon, if at all. Local

651
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<v Speaker 1>news reporters in the area reached out to the Madera

652
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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office, who did confirm that they received the

653
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<v Speaker 1>report of a possible sighting of some sort and they

654
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<v Speaker 1>did go out to the location to search for any

655
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<v Speaker 1>additional leads or information.

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<v Speaker 3>For now, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Case remains open and hopes that this latest update regarding

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<v Speaker 1>the spooking encounter may produce some new leads. Now as

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<v Speaker 1>strange as this new development is, it's not the first

660
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<v Speaker 1>time that possibly a ghost helped solve the missing person's case.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on February twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show Unsolved Mysteries aired to segment regarding a missing person's

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<v Speaker 1>case from almost three years prior. This report told the

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<v Speaker 1>story of twenty three year old Christine Scuubage and her

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<v Speaker 1>three year old son Nick. They were driving along Highway

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<v Speaker 1>fifty in the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range in California when

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<v Speaker 1>they vanished without a trace on June sixth, nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>Christine was a single mother and it recently completed parallegal training.

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<v Speaker 1>She had plans of going to work for a prestigious

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<v Speaker 1>law firm, and she helped to make enough money so

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<v Speaker 1>that she and her child's father could be married. Christine

672
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<v Speaker 1>left her stepparents home near Sacramento on June fifth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, on her way to Carson City, Nevada. After

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<v Speaker 1>failing to make contact with her family after three days,

675
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<v Speaker 1>her step father, Dave Stossenbach, reported her and her son

676
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<v Speaker 1>missing on June eighth. The police took the missing person's report,

677
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<v Speaker 1>but there were no initial leads in the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Five days after.

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<v Speaker 1>Christine and Nick disappeared, however, a woman named Debraah Hoyt

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband were driving along the Highway fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Around three am.

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<v Speaker 1>The pair were on along overnight drive and had been

683
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>joking and singing in order to keep each other away.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly never saw what appeared to be a completely naked

685
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<v Speaker 1>woman lying on the side of the road. The naked

686
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>woman's face was turned toward the road and she was

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<v Speaker 1>laying on her side with her knees slightly bent. She

688
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<v Speaker 1>had one arm placed beneath her head and the other

689
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>arm held over her head. The Holtz were shocked beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it must have been some sort of sick

691
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>practical joke, or perhaps he would employ the carjack them

692
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<v Speaker 1>had they stopped. Deborah floored the accelerator instead and sped

693
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<v Speaker 1>down Highway fifty, not stopping until she arrived at the

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<v Speaker 1>nearest phone booth, where she proceeded to call the foe.

695
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<v Speaker 3>In just minutes.

696
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<v Speaker 1>Two Sharf's cards with the scene were deborn seeing the

697
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<v Speaker 1>naked woman's body. However, unable to pinpoint the exact location,

698
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<v Speaker 1>the deputies reported that they saw and found nothing. The

699
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>next morning, though, speculations began that the sighting had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the disappearance of Christine and Nick, who

701
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<v Speaker 1>were the most recently missing people from that area. Due

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<v Speaker 1>to the insistence from the family, deputy Rich Strasser decided

703
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<v Speaker 1>to go back and have a closer look. Strasser figured

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<v Speaker 1>that it might be easier to spot anything out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ordinary in the daylight. Deborah had indicated that a

706
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<v Speaker 1>particularly dangerous stretch of Highway fifty, known as Bullion Bend,

707
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<v Speaker 1>was where the incident took place. As Strasser patrolled the area,

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<v Speaker 1>he spotted a new looking child's tennis shoe on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road. Immediately next to that spot and

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder of the road was a steep embankment. Strasser

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<v Speaker 1>pulled over his cruiser to search the area more thoroughly,

712
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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, at the bottom of the embankment he

713
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<v Speaker 1>spotted the twisted remains of Christine's car. He checked Christine

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<v Speaker 1>and observed that she was dead and unfortunately had been

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<v Speaker 1>that way for quite some time. The deputy then went

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00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 1>around to the other side to check Nick, who was

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<v Speaker 1>curled up in a fetal position in the passenger seat.

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00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Strasser assumed the worst and was sure that Nick was

719
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<v Speaker 1>also dead. However, when he touched the little boy's neck

720
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<v Speaker 1>to find a pulse, it appeared that Nick took a breath.

721
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<v Speaker 1>Strasser immediately radioed for an ambulance. Little Nick had been

722
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 1>alone in the car for five days, yet he was

723
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>somehow still clinging to life. Officials believed that sometime around

724
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<v Speaker 1>two am on June sixth, Christine must have fallen asleep

725
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<v Speaker 1>at the wheel. The car veered off the road and

726
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<v Speaker 1>plunged to the bottom of the ditch, striking a tree.

727
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<v Speaker 1>Due to the embankment being so steep, other drivers drove

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00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>right past the accident seen for days, unaware that it

729
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 1>was just over the side of the road. It was

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<v Speaker 1>later determined that Christine had been killed instantly on impact

731
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<v Speaker 1>with a tree. Through your old Nick was all alone,

732
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 1>with no way out and no one to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Christine's mother says that she believes that little Nick spent

734
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<v Speaker 1>the time talking to his mother, unaware that she was dead.

735
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<v Speaker 1>Against all odds, he survived five days of intense heat

736
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<v Speaker 1>and four nights of cold, trapped within the twisted remains

737
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<v Speaker 1>of the car. Doctors who examined nickt stated that he

738
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was in such bad shape that he would have most

739
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>likely die within a couple of hours had he not

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<v Speaker 1>been found when he was. The strange encounter that saved

741
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<v Speaker 1>Nick's life seems to defy any rational explanation. If deb

742
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 1>had not seen the naked woman lying on the side

743
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of the road, Nick would have not survived. Now, it's

744
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 1>absolutely impossible for Christine to have been the naked woman.

745
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>She was still fully clothed and wearing her seat bolt

746
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<v Speaker 1>when found, and the medical examiner stated that she was

747
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 1>most likely killed on impact. Debah Hoyt is one hundred

748
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<v Speaker 1>percent certain that she saw a naked woman on the

749
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>side of the road. Both she and Christine's family believe

750
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it was Christine's spirit who saved Nick that day. The

751
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>spirit had apparently appeared in the nude in order to

752
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 1>draw attention. Nick years later, as an adult, was interviewed

753
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on a television show Paranormal Witness. He remembers seeing a

754
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 1>bright light surrounding the car following the accident. To this day,

755
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he believes that his mother was watching over him following

756
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the accident.

757
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And helped him to be rescued.

758
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<v Speaker 1>The show also revealed that Christine's aunt had several dreams

759
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<v Speaker 1>or premonitions about the accident. Before Christine and Nick were

760
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>even reported missing, she dreamed of seeing them lying in

761
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>their car in a ditch. She also saw the number

762
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen in the dream, which turned out to be the

763
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>number for the mile marker nearest the accident's site.

764
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<v Speaker 3>Well, there you have it.

765
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the apparition that little Kayden observed,

766
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<v Speaker 1>which she identified as Sandra Hughes, even down to the

767
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>color of her hair, which was dyed blue when she

768
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>went missing. Is it possible that Sandra's spirit is attempting

769
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<v Speaker 1>to communicate with a living in a desire that remains

770
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>be found and her friend and loved ones have closure.

771
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>It certainly appears that way. And what about the two

772
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>other times she was spotted by high christ Was that

773
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<v Speaker 1>actually her or was that an apparition?

774
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean?

775
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, fall man, we.

776
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 7>Lost my two year old grandson. That's walk be the

777
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 7>ones my dad. We can't find him. Three year old

778
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 7>glands him. Hey there window here, Paul says, are you

779
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 7>there your own? Yeah, he's free. Okay. The girls come

780
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 7>to the house and left him there and he's walked

781
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 7>both somewhere and we can't find him. And even then

782
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.480
<v Speaker 7>I know you're not there in the house now, all

783
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 7>that dials hill okay, and how long do you know

784
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 7>he brought in there's voice a minute because we've been

785
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:02.679
<v Speaker 7>looking at it all in the woods for him.

786
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 6>And then behind your house, directly.

787
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 7>Behind your house, yeah, well on the side. Yeah, and

788
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 7>then a white flack he was, you know, and he

789
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 7>was wearing probably a black little coat, a black coat. Yeah.

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00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 6>Okay, you do this, you do this.

791
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 7>Where we go? Yeah, he has there? Yeah, thanks us.

792
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 6>Okay, he said about forty five minutes ago. Yeah, okay,

793
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 6>all right. Is it a big area of wood behind

794
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 6>your house? Yeah, it's pretty big. I think he's been

795
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 6>out there looking for him. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

796
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 6>we got it there, but he had to see you. Okay.

797
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.480
<v Speaker 6>And you said forty five minutes directly behind your house

798
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.559
<v Speaker 6>or a side yeah okay, you see said we have

799
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<v Speaker 6>some said it that way. Okay, okay, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, friends, Steve's talking here with you. In this video.

801
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<v Speaker 1>We're going to discuss children who claim to have been

802
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>saved by bears in the while. Join me, let's walk

803
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 1>and see. But before we begin, at least take a

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<v Speaker 1>moment make sure you're subscribed notification bell is on and

805
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<v Speaker 1>also you click join come a member of the channel

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<v Speaker 1>as exclusive members only perks. Now throughout this channel and

807
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 1>across this community, we've seen many strange things that have

808
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>gone on in the woods all across the world. There

809
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>are times, though, when things happen that just can't be

810
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<v Speaker 1>explained rationally or reasonably, despite seeming to be backed up

811
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<v Speaker 1>by documentation and in some cases even factual evidence. We've

812
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<v Speaker 1>discussed everything from ferries in the woods and people who

813
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>have gone missing under strange and unusual circumstances, sometimes in

814
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<v Speaker 1>front of witnesses. But every once in a while we

815
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>come across something so incredibly strange that it's hard to

816
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<v Speaker 1>imagine and actually have happened at all. However, today we're

817
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<v Speaker 1>going to discuss something unimaginably strange that it is said

818
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<v Speaker 1>to have happened not only once, but twice. And while

819
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<v Speaker 1>there are some facts and witness statements to make one

820
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<v Speaker 1>think these things are really happening out there, it's still,

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<v Speaker 1>of course up to you to decide what you want

822
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<v Speaker 1>to believe at the end of the day. One day,

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<v Speaker 1>way back in June of seventeen eighty three, a four

824
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<v Speaker 1>year old girl from Warren, New Hampshire named Sarah Witcher,

825
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go with her parents to visit her uncle.

826
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<v Speaker 1>Her uncle lived on a tall hill right behind their house,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, Sarah's parents didn't want her to

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<v Speaker 1>go with them, no matter how much Sarah begged and

829
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<v Speaker 1>pleaded with them, though, they refused to allow her to

830
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<v Speaker 1>go and assured her they would only be gone a

831
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<v Speaker 1>short time and she would be perfectly fine in the

832
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<v Speaker 1>care of her older siblings until their return. However, it

833
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<v Speaker 1>turns out that they were wrong, and due to some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of miscommunication. When her parents returned, the older siblings,

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<v Speaker 1>who were supposed to be watching little Sarah, ask why

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<v Speaker 1>she hadn't turned with them. What came next was something

837
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<v Speaker 1>that would be imprinted in New Hampshire history for centuries,

838
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 1>but also the mystery of what happened to Sarah that

839
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<v Speaker 1>day so long ago would live on forever in the

840
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>minds of those of us who study strange things in

841
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the woods. So let's take a look at what allegedly

842
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 1>happened on a sunny day in June many many years ago,

843
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 1>when Sarah's siblings asked where she was and why she

844
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.800
<v Speaker 1>hadn't returned with the parents. Obviously, Sarah's mother and father

845
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>were immediately panic. They sorted through the details with their siblings,

846
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't take long for everyone to realize that

847
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 1>no one was watching Sarah and that she had wandered

848
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>off somewhere. An immediate search party, including the family and

849
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.119
<v Speaker 1>their friends and neighbors in the community, quickly turned into

850
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>something much larger when dozens of people from all over

851
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 1>the surrounding areas descended upon Warren to help search for

852
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 1>the lost four year old. On the second day of

853
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the search reported back to the Witchers with some frightening news.

854
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Tracts believed to belong to Sarah were found deep in

855
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the wilderness behind the home, but falling directly behind hers

856
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>were the tracks of a large bear. This was terrible news,

857
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and the family came to the conclusion in their heads

858
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 1>that it was more than likely their precious little girl

859
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 1>was deceased. Everyone involved was disheartened, but it didn't slow

860
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>down the search one bit, as now they were determined

861
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to at least recover Sarah's remains. It was decided among

862
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the community of searchers that if Sarah were to be

863
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 1>found alive, after all, whover found her would fire three

864
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>shots from their rifle into the air. The situation was

865
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a grim one, but Sarah's parents and siblings couldn't help

866
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>but keep at least some hope that Sarah would be

867
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 1>found alive and well, despite how minuscule the odds of

868
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that happening were. Searchers continued in their efforts for days

869
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 1>on end, refusing to leave Sarah to the elements and

870
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>wildlife of the dense forest. On the fourth day of

871
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the search, an expert wilderness woodsman from nearby Portsmouth, New

872
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Hampshire arrived and joined the now exhausted search parties who

873
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>were still out looking for Sarah. Only a few hours

874
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 1>later that the townspeople heard the signal three shots fired

875
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>into the air. Sarah had not only been found, but

876
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 1>was apparently alive and well. But what had happened to

877
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 1>her and one of the bear tracks discovered following so

878
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>closely behind her most of the way. The expert woodsman

879
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 1>from Plymouth, who was still a stranger to the community

880
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 1>and Sarah's family, was now also a hero, and he

881
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>happily returned Sarah directly to her mother's arms, as the

882
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>rest of the community looked on with tears of joy.

883
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.360
<v Speaker 1>In their eyes and pairs of thanks on their lips.

884
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was eager to know what had happened to the

885
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>little girl, and she was more than happy to oblige

886
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>them with her miraculous and now legendary tale. Sarah began

887
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>by explaining that when her parents wouldn't allow her to

888
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>go with them to visit her uncle, she became bored

889
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and decided to wander around picking wildflowers. Somehow, while walking along,

890
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>her feet had been cut and began to bleed. Suddenly,

891
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>as Sarah tried to figure out what to do, as

892
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.239
<v Speaker 1>now her feet were injured and hurting and she still

893
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>needed to get back home, a bit emerged from the woods.

894
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 1>The little girl was immediately scared, but soon realized that

895
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 1>bear seemed more curious than menacing, and so she stood

896
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there and did nothing as the animal approached her. According

897
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 1>to Sarah, the bear walked right up to her, licked

898
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>her in essence giving her a kiss, and then laid

899
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>down right there at her feet. Sarah somehow immediately took

900
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>this to mean she was to lay down and use

901
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the bear as a warm and comfortable bed for the night.

902
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 1>The only other thing Sarah said to have revealed was

903
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that the bear simply stayed with her, either in that

904
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>one spot or in the forest in general, and didn't

905
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 1>leave her side until rescuers finally approached to bring her

906
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 1>back out of the woods and reunite her with her family.

907
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Sarah went on to live a normal life Mary and

908
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.079
<v Speaker 1>have children of her own. It said she entertained others

909
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>with her curious tale for many years after, and, as

910
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 1>with any legend, be it fashion or completely made up,

911
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the miraculous story took on many extra parts throughout the centuries.

912
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Some very common additions are that the stranger who found

913
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Sarah had been followed a vision of some kind, and

914
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>yet in other retellings of the story, the prayers from

915
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the townspeople and Sarah's family were so fervent in earnest

916
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that that's what actually brought Sarah back and let her

917
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 1>being found safe and sound. It's even sometimes said that

918
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Sarah told her parents quote the great black dog had

919
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>kept her safe and warm at night end quote. Of course,

920
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>these things can't possibly be proven, but aren't known to

921
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>be a part of Sarah's original retelling of the story.

922
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>A man named William Little went out and researched the

923
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 1>story and using only accounts that were allegedly eyewitnesses to

924
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 1>the event, wrote the book History of Warren, a hamlet

925
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 1>located along the White Hills of New Hampshire. This is

926
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>one of, if not the only, book that's said to

927
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:44.679
<v Speaker 1>tell the true story in the words of those who

928
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 1>were there that day. In its entirety, well, there's not

929
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>much to this story. It's still pretty miraculous and some

930
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>would say unbelievable. Knowing what we know, and considering everything

931
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we've learned about the missing in the woods and things

932
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>many have alleged to have experienced while out there, this

933
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 1>could very well have happened. After all, Sarah is not

934
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the only child to allege a bear or otherwild animal

935
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>help protect them and keep them safe while they were

936
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>scared and lost in the wilderness for days on end.

937
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 1>House would these small children have survived, and why or

938
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 1>how would they even come up with such strange tales

939
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 1>if they weren't at least partially true to begin with.

940
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Sarah's story is a bit too old for some

941
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to believe it is anything more than a local myth

942
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>or urban legend. If that's the case, however, it's completely

943
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>understandable because these things do have a way of taking

944
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>on a life of their own after some time. It

945
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>seems to still be happening to this day. We've discussed

946
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>some more recent cases, like two year old I had

947
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 1>to make Curtis, who in nineteen fifty five went missing

948
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:48.159
<v Speaker 1>in Montana's coot and Eye for Us. She was lost

949
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 1>for two whole days, and the entire time the weather

950
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>had been pouring rain, but she was found safe and sound,

951
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 1>no worse for the wear. She adamantly insisted that it

952
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>was a big bear that he kept her safe and

953
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>that cared so well for her during the entire time

954
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 1>she'd been gone. In even more recent years, in twenty nineteen,

955
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 1>a three year old named Casey Hathaway went missing in

956
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the wilderness near his grandmother's home in North Carolina, and

957
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>told a very similar story when he was rescued. Here's

958
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 1>his story, which some say is similar to the others

959
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.599
<v Speaker 1>in that it is very nonspecific as to what he

960
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and his companion did for days in the woods together,

961
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and only get his mentions to the fact that an animal,

962
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in this case also a bear, miraculously went against its

963
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 1>very nature in order to protect and perhaps save a

964
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>human child on January twenty third, twenty nineteen, Little Casey

965
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>hathaway and was playing with a couple of his older

966
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.639
<v Speaker 1>cousins and his great grandmother's backyard, but when the others

967
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 1>came inside, Casey wasn't with them. His family searched for

968
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 1>him for approximately forty five minutes, hoping to find him

969
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>on their own, but when they had no luck, they

970
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>called the Craven County Sheriff's Department on the phone with

971
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 1>a nine to one one dispatcher. His grandmother reported, he

972
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 1>was walking in the woods back there and we can't

973
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.679
<v Speaker 1>find him. The other ones come through the house but

974
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>left him there, and he walked off somewhere and we

975
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.159
<v Speaker 1>can't find him. The next two nights were filled with

976
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 1>freezing cold temperatures, pouring rain, and having winds, with the

977
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue teams and volunteers, along with.

978
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 3>Casey's family never gave up.

979
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Both the FBI, US Marine Corps, dozens of volunteers, plus

980
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue teams from across the state came together

981
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 1>to help find the missing toddler. Three days after he

982
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>had last been seen in the backyard, the neighbor of

983
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 1>his grandmother was out walking her dog and heard a

984
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>loud cry coming from some nearby bushes, approximately forty yards

985
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 1>from the road. When the neighbor went over to investigate,

986
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 1>she found little Casey Hathaway alive and seemingly well, except

987
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 1>that he was crying and tangled up in some thorn bushes.

988
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 1>The authorities and Casey's family were immediately notified and he

989
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>was rushed to the hospital, where he was described as

990
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>being in surprisingly good condition. So Casey didn't have much

991
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to say about what he had done and where he

992
00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>had been. According to David McFadden of the Craven County

993
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Office, who told CNN and other news outlets who

994
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>were seeking information, quote, he made a comment about having

995
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a friend while he was in the wood. His friend

996
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was a bear. In the emergency room, he started talking

997
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>about what happened in the woods, and he said he

998
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>had a friend that was a bear with him while

999
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 1>he was in the woods.

1000
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 3>End quote.

1001
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 1>While Major and McFadden admitted there were bears in the

1002
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>woods in the county, he said there was no way

1003
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>to prove one way or the other that one had

1004
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 1>been with Casey during the time he was missing. He

1005
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>went on to say that all that battered was that

1006
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>there was something there to comfort the little boy throughout

1007
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.679
<v Speaker 1>the ordeal. Major McFadden was also quoted as saying, we

1008
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 1>are very pleased he had that type of comfort. There

1009
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>were very brutal conditions out there. The first night had

1010
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>dropped down to twenty degrees. The second night we had

1011
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 1>two inches of rain. Casey requested and is said to

1012
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.519
<v Speaker 1>have absolutely devoured some of his favorite foods while at

1013
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, including Cheetos and chicken McNuggets. Aside from a

1014
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>few bruises, cuts and scrapes, Casey was in good condiction

1015
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.519
<v Speaker 1>and was happy to be reunited with his family. While

1016
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>we may never really know what happened to any of

1017
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>these children and at least a handful of others that

1018
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 1>have claimed to have been protected and cared for by

1019
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 1>some unusual wildlife out in the woods, it definitely makes

1020
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 1>for much more than just an interesting story.

1021
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 3>In this community.

1022
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's hard to take things that face value, but

1023
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.679
<v Speaker 1>there are some who believe cases like these and others,

1024
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to small children who have no

1025
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 1>reason or incentive to lie about such things, that we

1026
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>need to read between the lines. Could it be that

1027
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 1>actually bears came out of the woods and went against

1028
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 1>their very nature in order to protect and rescue at

1029
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>times even to care for these little and otherwise helpless

1030
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>human children for days on end. Could it be there's

1031
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>something else at play here, and if so, what is it,

1032
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 1>What could it possibly be and what interest does it

1033
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>have in human children? Some people believe that perhaps whatever

1034
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the entities are, they simply appear to small children in

1035
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the form of a bear, due to the fact that

1036
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 1>there's so many bear in popular children's story books and

1037
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>fairy tales. This is all, of course speculation, and we

1038
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>most likely will never know the real answers, but it

1039
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>is certainly something for us to consider.

1040
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 3>And think about.

1041
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 1>One more interesting thing to be added about Sarah Witcher

1042
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 1>and her incredible tale of rescue survival in the woods.

1043
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 1>The New Hampshire Historical Society has recently added, mainly due

1044
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 1>to requests made by First and Second Greatest at Dublin

1045
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Christian Academy. There are two hundred and seventy fifth historical

1046
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.119
<v Speaker 1>highway marker in honor of the little girl who was

1047
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>said to be saved by a bear all those years ago.

1048
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.599
<v Speaker 1>The markers, in accordance with the tale as told by

1049
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Yates and reads in part quote, the local man

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<v Speaker 1>joined the search after dreaming three times that Sarah would

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<v Speaker 1>be found under a pine limb near Barrybrook, guarded by

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00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a bear. His dream proved to be true. Sarah was

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<v Speaker 1>found as he stated, and she told rescuers that a

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<v Speaker 1>great black dog had kept her each night.

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<v Speaker 3>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet more elements added to the long and ever evolving

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<v Speaker 1>story of three year old Sarah Witcher and her bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends, Steve Stalkton here with you. Welcome to a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new episode twenty twenty four. In this video, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at hitchhikers who went missing. Join me,

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<v Speaker 1>let's walk and see.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>They say the road less traveled holds the greatest mysteries,

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00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and out there on the roughly four point two million

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00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 1>miles of roads and highways throughout the USA, that couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be more true. Every night, as the world sleeps, the

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<v Speaker 1>highway becomes a stage for vanishing acts. It's as if

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<v Speaker 1>the darkness itself has an appetite, devouring hitchhikers without a trace.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's discuss some cases in which the following individuals were

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<v Speaker 1>offered a ride to their destination, never to be seen again.

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<v Speaker 3>Vocal up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a strange one. First up,

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<v Speaker 1>we have Mitch Weiser and Bonnie Bickwit. Mitchell Weisser, age sixteen,

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00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 1>also known as Mitch, and his fourteen year old girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>Benita Mara Bickwitt, also known as Bonnie, reported missing after

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<v Speaker 1>being seen hitchhiking along a highway in Narrowsburg, New York.

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<v Speaker 1>They were heading northwest towards a town called Watkins Glen,

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01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seven miles away. The date was Friday,

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01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 1>July twenty seventh, nineteen seventy three, and the couple were

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01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 1>desperately attempting to hitchhike their way to the Watkins Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Jam Concert. The concert was a huge affair, posting

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01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>performances by The Almond Brothers, The Grateful Dead, The Band,

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01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 1>and many other popular artists of the time. Approximately six

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01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand individuals were in attendance of the concert, earning

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<v Speaker 1>it a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the massive crowd that numbered well over half

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<v Speaker 1>a million, only two individuals managed without a trace, Bonnie

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01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Bickwit and Mitch Weisser. No one has seen or heard

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01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>from them since they attended and participated in the event.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch was a resident of the Flatbush neighborhood of Brooklyn,

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01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>New York, and had initially intended to go to the

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01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>concert with his friend Larry Marion. However, due to Larry's

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01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 1>mother's restrictions, Mitch asked Bonnie to join him instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Bonnie and Mitch had.

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01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Been together for about a year when he decided to

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01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>take time off from his summer internship at a photography

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01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 1>studio in Coney Island to attend the event. He was

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01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>determined not to miss it. He was overjoyed when Bonnie,

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01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 1>who had been a parents' helper at Camp Wilmot during

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01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:35.599
<v Speaker 1>the summer in the Catskill Mountains, decided to join him.

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<v Speaker 1>She had attended the camp as a child and cherished

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01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 1>her time there. However, when her boss would approve her

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01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 1>time off to go to the concert with Mitch, she

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01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.320
<v Speaker 1>quit on the spot and told him she would be

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01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 1>back after the concert to collect her personal belongings and

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01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 1>final paycheck. With worried expressions, Mitch's mother, Shirley and his

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01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>sister Susan pleaded with him to reconsider attending the concert.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them strongly believed it was a poor decision,

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01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 1>yet he refused to change his mind and was determined

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01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 1>to go. Charley stepped in and offered him some money

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01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to cover his travel expenses there and back. At that moment,

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01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Mitch was already making his way out the door. It's

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01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 1>unclear if he didn't hear or if he was purposely ignored. Heer,

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01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.280
<v Speaker 1>but with only twenty five dollars in his pocket, he

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01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>left without a second glance and never returned. He would

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01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:31.480
<v Speaker 1>never step foot inside his home again. Mitch rode a

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01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>bus to Nearrisburg and then hopped on another one to

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01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Camp Well Met, where he arrived around midnight on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>By this point, he was almost completely broke. He made

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<v Speaker 1>sure to call his mother and sister to let them

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01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.400
<v Speaker 1>know it he arrived safely, but also that he had

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01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>very little money left. His mother and sister were understandably

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01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.239
<v Speaker 1>worried and tried once again to convince him not to go,

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01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but Mitch assured him that he would be fined and

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01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>promised to see them when he returned home. On Sunday

1126
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.880
<v Speaker 1>was a hitchhike one hundred and fifty miles northwest, but

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01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 1>he could attend the outdoor concert with Bonnie. After spending

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01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the night at their campsite. They had breakfast on Friday

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01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 1>morning before embarking on what they thought would be an

1130
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 1>exciting adventure. A caneman in a pickup truck offered them

1131
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.159
<v Speaker 1>a ride back to Narrisburg, and they gratefully accepted before

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01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>making their way to Highway ninety seven. Using a homemade

1133
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.960
<v Speaker 1>cardboard sign, they hitchhiked and asked for a ride to

1134
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the concert. When the truck driver glanced back one last time,

1135
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.519
<v Speaker 1>little did he know that it would be the final

1136
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 1>confirmed sighting of the two teenagers. As Sunday night passed

1137
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 1>without a call or appearance from Mitch as he promised,

1138
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.280
<v Speaker 1>his family grew increasingly concerned of the next day. They

1139
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.719
<v Speaker 1>were filled with worry and dialed camp Well met to

1140
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 1>speak with Bonnie. With their dismay, they discovered that Bonnie

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01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 1>also did not return on Sunday and no one had

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01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:57.159
<v Speaker 1>heard from her either. Susan and Sidney Wiser, Mitch's sister,

1143
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.159
<v Speaker 1>and father, drove all the way to Watkins Glen the

1144
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 1>search for the two teenagers, while Mitch's mother surely waited

1145
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 1>anxiously at home. Meanwhile, Donnie's parents, Theodore and Ray, were

1146
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 1>unaware of their daughter's disappearance, since they were vacationing in

1147
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Cape god Upon hearing the devastating news, they rushed to

1148
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Camp well Met. Without hesitation, they reported their daughter's missing,

1149
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.559
<v Speaker 1>hoping for assistance and finding her. However, their hopes were

1150
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 1>quickly dashed as the police brushed off their concerns and

1151
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 1>chalked it up to another pair of teenagers who'd run

1152
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 1>away after attending a concert. Just three days before her disappearance,

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01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Donnie had sent a letter to her parents. In it,

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01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 1>she expressed her happiness at Camp well Met and how

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01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.480
<v Speaker 1>much she valued the freedom she had there. She also

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01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that when she returned home, she hoped her parents

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01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 1>would give her more space to grow and travel. This

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01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:52.320
<v Speaker 1>last part gave them hope that perhaps she had gone

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01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:56.199
<v Speaker 1>on a trip and would contact them soon. After the

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01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.800
<v Speaker 1>authorities refused to help with any investigation into their missing children,

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01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 1>both Bonnie and Mitch's parents decided to let them explore

1162
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 1>their freedom for a while. They waited patiently for school

1163
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 1>to start again, hoping their kids were just traveling on

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01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 1>their own. However, when neither of them showed up for

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01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the first day of school, all the parents feared the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Described as a sweet boy with shouldered, linked hair pulled

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01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 1>back into ponytail, tortoise show glasses, and hazel eyes. Mitch

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01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:27.760
<v Speaker 1>was known for his love of baseball, his girlfriend, Bonnie, photography,

1169
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and The Grateful Dead. Even named his dog Casey Jones

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01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.280
<v Speaker 1>after one of the band's classic songs. His friends admired

1171
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:41.280
<v Speaker 1>him for being courageous and rebellious. According to his sister Susan,

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01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 1>he was a talented and gifted individual. She kept a

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01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 1>box filled with her brother's belongings as a memento for

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01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:49.079
<v Speaker 1>the brother she loved dearly but.

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01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Lost too soon.

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01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Among the items in the box are his old tortoise

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01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:57.360
<v Speaker 1>show glasses, his poetry ticket stubs from the nineteen sixty

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01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 1>nine Mets World Series, trading card from the nineteen sixty

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01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 1>four and sixty five New York World's Fair, and a

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01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.840
<v Speaker 1>large birthday card made by Mitch's friends on his fifteenth birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>At just four feet and eleven inches, Bonnie was a

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01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 1>petite young girl, weighing around ninety pounds. She had a

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01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:19.079
<v Speaker 1>face full of freckles and long brown hair. Her close

1184
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.760
<v Speaker 1>friends often referred to her as a free spirited individual

1185
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:27.079
<v Speaker 1>with a sweet disposition, sharp intellect, strong determination, and fearlessness.

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01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Music was one of her passions, and she particularly adored

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01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the Almond Brothers band. Bonnie was a student in gifted classes,

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01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and instead of going to traditional high school, she chose

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01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to attend the experimental John.

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01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Dewey High School.

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01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 1>That's where Mitch and Bonnie first crossed paths and bonded

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01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:51.159
<v Speaker 1>over their shared academic successes. With impressive GPAs and ambitious

1193
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 1>plans for the future, it seemed unlikely that they would

1194
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 1>simply vanish without a trace. To make matters more suspicious,

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01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>they had secretly exchanged wedding, leading the police to believe

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01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that they may have deliberately disappeared together. Even after six

1197
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:09.880
<v Speaker 1>weeks of no contact, the police remained doubtful and dismissed

1198
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:14.039
<v Speaker 1>the disappearance of the simple teenager runaways. Frustrated by their

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01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 1>lack of action, the parents of both missing teenagers took

1200
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:21.639
<v Speaker 1>matters into their own hands and launched independent investigations, regardlessly

1201
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.760
<v Speaker 1>working to bring attention to the case. In nineteen seventy three,

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01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 1>despite the passionate police for these two disressed families, investigators

1203
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.679
<v Speaker 1>from three different counties in New York chose to ignore

1204
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 1>their crist for help and refused to launch an official investigation.

1205
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Despite assurances from the NYPD that they would inform other

1206
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 1>agencies nationwide about the missing teens, they failed to do so.

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01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.760
<v Speaker 1>As a result, the Slovan County Sheriff's Office also neglected

1208
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to help investigation on the case. On the twenty fifth

1209
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the disappearance of the teenagers, Bonnie's sister, Sheryl Kagan,

1210
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 1>decided to launch an investigation to find uncovered the truth

1211
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 1>behind her sister and Mitch's fate. Her dis May, she

1212
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:09.920
<v Speaker 1>discovered that the original case files, notes from investigators, dental records,

1213
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 1>and a list of potential witnesses had all been lost

1214
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.520
<v Speaker 1>by both the Sylvan County Sheriff's Office and the NYPD's

1215
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Missing Persons Squad. As a result, crucial information was not

1216
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:25.279
<v Speaker 1>entered into the FBI's National Crime Information Center. A former

1217
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.840
<v Speaker 1>detective from Sullivan County named Anthony Suarez confessed that he

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01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.039
<v Speaker 1>had been assigned to the case in nineteen ninety four,

1219
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 1>but never attempted to contact the original investigator or make

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01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 1>any effort to solve the mystery of Bonnie and Mitch's disappearance.

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01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Suarez passed away in May of twenty twenty. Now,

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01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in the year two thousand, a man came forward with

1223
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a remarkable tale. Unfortunately, it was never confirmed and the

1224
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:55.760
<v Speaker 1>man has since passed away. In summary, he claimed to

1225
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 1>have hitchhiked with Bonnie and Mitch, who were desperately trying

1226
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 1>to get home from a concert that couldn't reach. They

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01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.279
<v Speaker 1>were supposedly picked up by an orangeb W bus, but

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01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the driver pulled over when things got too intense. The

1229
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:11.720
<v Speaker 1>group stopped at the Susquehanna River for a swim, but unfortunately,

1230
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:14.760
<v Speaker 1>both Mitch and Bonny were swept away by the strong current.

1231
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:18.960
<v Speaker 1>The driver left, but promised to contact the police, so

1232
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the other hitchhikers saw no need to do so himself. Eventually,

1233
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.119
<v Speaker 1>he did meet with investigators at his own expense, and

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01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 1>now the police believe his story is the most likely

1235
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:34.039
<v Speaker 1>explanation for what happened to the missing teens. Nevertheless, the

1236
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:36.800
<v Speaker 1>families remained doubtful and are waiting to hear from the

1237
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 1>driver or any other potential witnesses. However, despite their efforts,

1238
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 1>no one has stepped forward with any information about the incident.

1239
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:52.199
<v Speaker 1>This case remains unsolved. Next up, we have the case

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<v Speaker 1>of Jojo Delard On November ninth, nineteen ninety five, twenty

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01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 1>one year old Jojo Delard left her home in Callen County,

1242
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Kilkenny to take a bus to Dublin, where she was

1243
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:07.359
<v Speaker 1>supposed to meet up with friends. After spending the afternoon

1244
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 1>at Brooksville's Pub on Grafton Street, she planned to take

1245
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the bus back home around ten pm. However, she missed

1246
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the last bus of the night and had to board

1247
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a different one that would take her somewhat close to

1248
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:24.479
<v Speaker 1>her find her destination in nas County kill Dare. With

1249
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>no other plans for the evening, she hopped off that

1250
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:30.479
<v Speaker 1>bus and began hitchhiking. This was a common occurrence at

1251
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the time. After hitch hiking her first ride to Moon,

1252
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Jojo called a friend from a fai phunt. She promised

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01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to be home soon as someone had just pulled over

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01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:43.079
<v Speaker 1>and offered her a ride while she was making the call.

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01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.920
<v Speaker 1>As soon as she hung up, she presumably got into

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01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the car and was never seen or heard from again.

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01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Even though her family continuously asked for updates and assistance,

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01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the police initially refused to provide any help. They believed

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01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Jojo voluntarily disappeared and would reappear on her own. Eventually,

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01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 1>during the evening when Jojo Delard disappeared, a truck driver

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01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:10.159
<v Speaker 1>claimed he saw a young woman running naked through Moon.

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01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 1>The driver and his boss were traveling through the area

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01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.279
<v Speaker 1>at the time and spotted the visibly distressed woman, but

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01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they did not stop to offer assistance. They did, however,

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01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:22.760
<v Speaker 1>call the police and were promised that someone would immediately

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01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.159
<v Speaker 1>go to the location and investigate. The driver claimed that

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01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:29.159
<v Speaker 1>he later learned the woman was not Jojo, and authorities

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01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:31.640
<v Speaker 1>confirmed that it was actually from one else.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 1>The murder of Jojo was only recently declared by authorities,

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and now the police are searching for any traces of

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01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:43.079
<v Speaker 1>her mains. The case was reopened a few years ago

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01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and the Police Service of Ireland issued a statement to

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01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the public. In JoJo's family they now believed she was

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01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 1>a victim of homicide and that her cause of death

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01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was most likely due to violent means. This case is

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01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 1>filled with an extraordinary amount of information, largely to the

1278
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:05.600
<v Speaker 1>relentless effort of JoJo's family, particularly her devoted sister. They've

1279
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:09.159
<v Speaker 1>taken upon themselves to investigate the case. Feeling let down

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01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:12.960
<v Speaker 1>by the authorities from the get go, hiring investigators and

1281
01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 1>following leeds has become their own responsibility. Despite all their efforts,

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01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 1>the truth behind Jojo Delarde's disappearance remains elusive and sadly,

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01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 1>she is not the only young woman to go missing

1284
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in that area. Next, we have Jamie Herdman at only

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01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty six years old. Jamie Herdman was a skills chef

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01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:36.880
<v Speaker 1>from Facatone, New Zealand. He had failed to work at

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01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a furniture removal company in Broome, Western Australia when he disappeared.

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01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 1>During his free time, Jamie poured his passion into renovating

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01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a Nissan utility van that he dreamed of taking for

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01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:52.199
<v Speaker 1>a cross country trip across Australia. After completing his project

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01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and waiting for the perfect moment, Jamie finally set off

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01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:59.640
<v Speaker 1>on his long awaited road trip. Jamie's family reported missing

1293
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on December five, two thousand and six, when they couldn't

1294
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:06.279
<v Speaker 1>reach him during his trip. An investigation was launched and

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01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.079
<v Speaker 1>authorities discovered that Jamie was last seen hitchhiking at Dally Waters,

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01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:13.760
<v Speaker 1>approximately three hundred and seventeen miles from Darwin, where his

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01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:17.199
<v Speaker 1>family believed he was headed. His van, which had a

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01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.159
<v Speaker 1>history of overheating was quickly located abandoned near a roadhouse

1299
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:27.119
<v Speaker 1>on Stuart Highway. Inside the unlocked van, authorities found Jamie's clothes, phone,

1300
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 1>credit cards, toothbrush, and some cash. However, his keys were missing.

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01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 1>In November of two thousand and six, Jamie made the

1302
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 1>unusual decision to travel through the center of Australia on

1303
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.159
<v Speaker 1>his way to Dally Waters. His brother Karl, described this

1304
01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:45.760
<v Speaker 1>as bizarre. Jamie was an avid fisherman, leading his family

1305
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to believe that he would have more likely chosen route

1306
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.960
<v Speaker 1>along the coast. However, Carl reported that Jamie had left

1307
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Broom suddenly and without informing anyone, not friends, family, or

1308
01:13:56.119 --> 01:14:00.520
<v Speaker 1>even his employer. The family suspected that Jamie may received

1309
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 1>a warning from a friend about someone who was after

1310
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:07.479
<v Speaker 1>him or planning to harm him in some way. Everyone

1311
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:09.920
<v Speaker 1>held on to the hope that Jamie was simply unaware

1312
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of the search efforts to find him, and that he

1313
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was out there somewhere continue his journey and still safe.

1314
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>There was also the possibility that he had become stranded

1315
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.600
<v Speaker 1>in a remote Aboriginal community, cut off from the rest

1316
01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of civilization due to severe flooding, but as more time

1317
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:31.319
<v Speaker 1>passed without any word from Jamie, it became increasingly unlikely

1318
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.159
<v Speaker 1>that he would be found alive. Despite extensive search efforts

1319
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on land and in the air, no trace of Jamie

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01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>or any clothes I saw his whereabouts have ever been discovered.

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01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 1>He remains missing to this day, along with many others

1322
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.439
<v Speaker 1>who have traveled through the isolated Australian outback and never

1323
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 1>returned home. And finally, Joshua Jones. Joshua Jones, a twenty

1324
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 1>nine year old man from Hurst Rise in matt Locke, Derbyshire, England,

1325
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:03.000
<v Speaker 1>left his home on December twelfth, twenty twenty at approximately

1326
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty. He told his wife Talia that he was

1327
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 1>going to the pharmacy and would be back soon. Before leaving,

1328
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he kissed his two year old son and wife goodbye,

1329
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:17.039
<v Speaker 1>but never return. At around noon, CCTV footage captured Joshua

1330
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:20.000
<v Speaker 1>at a department store and then later at a nearby

1331
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Sainsbury grocery store. Witnesses supported seeing him hitchhiking on the

1332
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.520
<v Speaker 1>A six thirty two towards Chesterfield at around four pm.

1333
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Prior to his disappearance, Joshua had texted his wife saying

1334
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I love you to the moon and back. This mysterious

1335
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:39.520
<v Speaker 1>vanishing led to both reports to the police about potential

1336
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.720
<v Speaker 1>sightings of Joshua. However, no one has been able to

1337
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 1>locate him since. When he disappeared, he'd been wearing a

1338
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.439
<v Speaker 1>gray super dry jacket and blue jeans. The sleeves of

1339
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the coat were light colored and the inside was green.

1340
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Other identifying features include a Japanese inspired tattoo on his

1341
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.920
<v Speaker 1>right arm featuring a dragon, a koi f and a crane.

1342
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 1>On his left wrist, there was a tattoo in Tallia's

1343
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.319
<v Speaker 1>handwriting that read to the Moon and Back with a

1344
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:10.680
<v Speaker 1>red rocket and runes surrounding a moon inside. Despite the

1345
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 1>efforts of authorities, including drone searches, mountain rescue teams, and

1346
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a helicopter, Joshua Jones could not be found, nor any

1347
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.279
<v Speaker 1>information about his disappearance. There are no leeds or evidence

1348
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:25.359
<v Speaker 1>in this case. His wife claimed that she wasn't surprised

1349
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.199
<v Speaker 1>that he couldn't be seen on CCTV footage because there

1350
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:32.239
<v Speaker 1>were only cameras in Central Matlock. Dahlia also mentioned that

1351
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>her and Joshua had often talked about leaving society behind him,

1352
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:39.439
<v Speaker 1>building a treehouse to live in during the pandemic and lockdowns.

1353
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Joshua struggled with feeling trapped and anxious. He refused to

1354
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:48.319
<v Speaker 1>seek medical help, believing time would heal his wounds. Eliat

1355
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.039
<v Speaker 1>remains hopeful that her husband is still alive and possibly

1356
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:53.560
<v Speaker 1>living in the wilderness, as he was skilled in survival

1357
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and loved the outdoors. Now, there is no record explaining

1358
01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the reason that he would have had to possibly leave

1359
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.159
<v Speaker 1>his wife and sun behind intentionally. However, the day before

1360
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:05.479
<v Speaker 1>he vanished, his card broken down, and both he and

1361
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Italian were concerned about the expenses of getting it fixed

1362
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and how that would affect plans to purchase Christmas gifts.

1363
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 1>On top of that, rent was due and they had

1364
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>yet to shop for their holiday meal. Tellia speculates that

1365
01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the stress of their life together may have pushed him

1366
01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to flee. Unfortunately, there is no further information on this case,

1367
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and Joshua Jones remains missing. The strange disappearance of Eric Sears.

1368
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.479
<v Speaker 1>On July fourteenth, two thousand and four, friends and recent

1369
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>graduates of Carlsbad High School in California, seventeen year olds

1370
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Eric Sears and Ben Fogelstrom, decided to go on a

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01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>camping trip together in Joshua Tree National Park. The two

1372
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of them showed up to their campsite in jumbo rocks

1373
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and we're just having a good time. They were turned

1374
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:56.920
<v Speaker 1>away from the Sanya Sinto due to wildfires. Around noon

1375
01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:01.199
<v Speaker 1>is when investigators believe the two boys became separated. Teams

1376
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:04.079
<v Speaker 1>of searchers were told that Eric became dehydrated and Ben

1377
01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 1>went to go and find some water. Erk stayed behind

1378
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and curled up underneath a picnic bench to try and

1379
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>rest in the shade until Ben returned. When Ben came back,

1380
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:18.279
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't find Eric anywhere and became panicked. Some other

1381
01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>campers came across him hiw is still unclear, and brought

1382
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:24.119
<v Speaker 1>him into the park office to report the disappearance of

1383
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Eric at around four to forty the next afternoon.

1384
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 3>The search of a.

1385
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Twenty square mile area of the park began at six

1386
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>pm that evening. There's an intensive search and rescue operation.

1387
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Parks SAAR teams scattered the area with help from various

1388
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement teams, and as of Sunday, there were one

1389
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:43.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy searchers in total, but by Monday the

1390
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>number of searchers had dropped to forty because the volunteers

1391
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:47.800
<v Speaker 1>had to return to work.

1392
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:51.279
<v Speaker 3>The search included tracking.

1393
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Dogs, horses, a helicopter, fixed wing planes, and climbers who

1394
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:58.960
<v Speaker 1>looked in rock crevices where he could have fallen. Robert Fonda,

1395
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the parks lead trackers, said the search was

1396
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:04.359
<v Speaker 1>difficult because it had taken place in one hundred plus

1397
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>degree heat every day, because the terrain varied from really

1398
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>flat to boulder outcroppings where the footing is perilous. He stated,

1399
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 1>we've been working a lot in the back areas and

1400
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>making sure that some teams didn't miss anything. You can't

1401
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.239
<v Speaker 1>speculate about what may have happened, You just have to search.

1402
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Searchers did find some of Eric's shoe prints, and the

1403
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.439
<v Speaker 1>dogs were able to pick up his scent, but none

1404
01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of it enabled them to determine where he was going.

1405
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Eric was described as in top physical condition. He ran

1406
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:37.119
<v Speaker 1>cross country for four years in high school and even

1407
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:40.079
<v Speaker 1>traveled to Australia two years earlier with other state runners.

1408
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:43.920
<v Speaker 1>As an adult, he also participated in a twenty four

1409
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:47.000
<v Speaker 1>hour relay race between Carlsbad and El Camino High Schools

1410
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.399
<v Speaker 1>at Carlsbad July tenth and eleventh to promote the sport

1411
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and help raise money. Unfortunately, all would not end well.

1412
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Eric's body was found on July twenty third. Because of

1413
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 1>death couldn't be determined by autopsy because that time it

1414
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.960
<v Speaker 1>was too badly decomposed. There was no obvious trauma found

1415
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:10.479
<v Speaker 1>anywhere on the body. This is when the investigators turned

1416
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to the only person who was with him that night

1417
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.359
<v Speaker 1>for answers. The rest of the story was told by

1418
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Ben to the authorities. It's strange, to say the least.

1419
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Here's what Ben said had happened leading up to the disappearance.

1420
01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Though he admitted to authorities during this statement, but he

1421
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was having trouble distinguishing what actually happened from hallucinations he

1422
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>was certain he was having due to his and Eric's

1423
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>partaking in a wildly grown, illicit but not illegal in

1424
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:39.439
<v Speaker 1>the state of California substance the night before. His report

1425
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was oftentimes conflicting and all over the place. He told

1426
01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>authorities both he and Eric had drank a tea made

1427
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>from a certain weed. He claimed he remembered speaking to

1428
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:53.079
<v Speaker 1>a bush an Indian, and possibly to Eric. He said

1429
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.079
<v Speaker 1>he was pretty sure his friend was deceased because he

1430
01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.840
<v Speaker 1>thought he remembered disposing of his body. He also couldn't

1431
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:01.479
<v Speaker 1>tell authorities exactly see how Eric had gone missing or

1432
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.840
<v Speaker 1>ended up deceased, depending on which story Ben was recounting

1433
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>at the time. However, two chemicals toxins found in this

1434
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>plant were found in Eric's brain tissue. One way or another,

1435
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.159
<v Speaker 1>the use of this plant by Ben and Eric was

1436
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a major contributing factor in Eric's death. The plant known

1437
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:24.279
<v Speaker 1>as gemsen weed, local weed, stink weed, mad apple, thorn

1438
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.479
<v Speaker 1>apple are among the street names for the foul smelling Datura.

1439
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Stramonium plant is one of a group of plants known

1440
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:35.199
<v Speaker 1>as belladonnas notarius. Tremonium is a common weed found along

1441
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.119
<v Speaker 1>roadsides in cornfields, pastures, and waste areas. It's been reported

1442
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to grow widely in all but two states, by only

1443
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.079
<v Speaker 1>in Alaska. Although it's not popular on the street, it

1444
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.479
<v Speaker 1>is usually used by teenagers curious about the plants hallucinogenic

1445
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:54.399
<v Speaker 1>and euphoric effects. Although something adolescents might use with their peers,

1446
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:57.279
<v Speaker 1>all parts of the plant are toxic and usage can

1447
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:01.039
<v Speaker 1>result in serious illness or death. It can take up

1448
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to hours for someone to feel the plant's effects, so

1449
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 1>people often consume excessive amounts, believing it's not working since

1450
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 1>it's growing wild. The ponency is impossible to predict. The

1451
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>toxicity even varies by year, between plants, parts of the plant,

1452
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and even among different leaves on the same plant. Even

1453
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>just a small amount of it ingested can cause nausea, headache,

1454
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:29.640
<v Speaker 1>severe agitation, hallucinations, behavioral changes, and or delirium. Annually, poison

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01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>control centers deal with approximately one thousand cases of poisoning

1456
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>by these plants. Usage increases between May and September, when

1457
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the plants are mature and plentiful. The overwhelming majority of

1458
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>users report that their experience was very unpleasant, physically dangerous,

1459
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes terrifying. Few people ever use it twice. Even

1460
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a one time usage can have tragic effects, such as

1461
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>in this case. With all that being said, one may

1462
01:22:57.520 --> 01:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>ask what is the lure to experiment with the plant

1463
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>which seems have no pleasant effects whatsoever. The effects have

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01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:05.319
<v Speaker 1>been described as being in a living dream and can

1465
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>last for days. It has extremely powerful psychoactive effects, including hallucinations, delusions, disorientation, confusion,

1466
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:18.399
<v Speaker 1>and panic. Doesn't sound like my idea of fun. Users

1467
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>have no concept that anything they are talking to seeing

1468
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>or running from isn't actually there. That's how intense these

1469
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:28.880
<v Speaker 1>hallucinations can be, where it's impossible to distinguish them from reality.

1470
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Oddly enough, some of the hallucinations are reported to have

1471
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>recurrent themes, such as insects, cigarettes, people, or objects appearing

1472
01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and disappearing, including demons and monsters. Smoking a phantom cigarette

1473
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is one of the most common hallucinations, even if the

1474
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>individual has never smoked before. Talking to inanimate objects, plants,

1475
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 1>and friends who are not present is also frequently reported.

1476
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Individuals lose their ability to identify their friends and may

1477
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>not even recognize their own reflection in a mists. Individual

1478
01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:06.239
<v Speaker 1>may also try to interact with these hallucinations. Most users

1479
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 1>don't even realize that they're hallucinating until its effects were off.

1480
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Amnesia is also frequently reported, with users having no memory

1481
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 1>of what they were doing for several hours, or they

1482
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:21.239
<v Speaker 1>may unconsciously replace fact with fantasy. They can fall in

1483
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and out of conscience, slip into delirium. It's believed that

1484
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened with There can be in while

1485
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they were out being typical teenagers that night in Joshua

1486
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Tree did they get in over their heads and one

1487
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:36.039
<v Speaker 1>thing lead to another. Did Eric dive an overdose? I'm

1488
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>taking too much thinking the initial doses weren't effective or

1489
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>not working for him? Or was it something else all together? Unfortunately,

1490
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.239
<v Speaker 1>gyms and weeds related deaths are often a result of

1491
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>impair judgment that leads to risk taking activities such as

1492
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>believing you can fly and jumping off a cliff, or

1493
01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>chasing a mermaid in a lake even though you can't swim.

1494
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Are the above listed or nowhere near all the dangerous

1495
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 1>effects this particular belladonna could have on the human brain

1496
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and psyche. So what happened to Eric Serius that faithful

1497
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>night in two thousand and four when he had his

1498
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>whole life ahead of him and was just looking to

1499
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:14.479
<v Speaker 1>have some fun with his friend in a beautiful place

1500
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the celebration of the Huge Life milestone and graduating high school.

1501
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Eric was described by his peers as popular and friendly, and,

1502
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.279
<v Speaker 1>as mentioned before, was a member of the cross country team.

1503
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>He had been accepted in the engineering program at San

1504
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Diego State University that was to begin classes that fall.

1505
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>His death affected the whole community, According to an affidavit

1506
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>file and super record in Indio. He provided several stories

1507
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of hallucinating during the night, with he being Ben Fogustrom.

1508
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>The community was heartbroken with the discovery of Eric's body

1509
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and with the seeming senselessness of it. On top of

1510
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:55.479
<v Speaker 1>it all, on the porch of the series' home, signs

1511
01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>with messages of hope, flowers and red and white and

1512
01:25:57.920 --> 01:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>blue candles formed what was to be a welcome for

1513
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the family when they returned. Parents Tom and Wendy Sears

1514
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>have remained at the desert campground since shortly after their

1515
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>son was reported missing. Officials said the Seers family was

1516
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>in seclusion Friday night in nearby twenty nine Palms, and

1517
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that their daughter, Stephanie, aged nineteen, was en route to

1518
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>join them. Many were expected to return later in the

1519
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>evening to share prayers and light candles against the darkness

1520
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>at the Seers home, something they have done not after

1521
01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>night this week. Neighbors and friends said the mutual support

1522
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>provided by the small, close community has at times been

1523
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that carried them through more than a

1524
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>week of waiting. Groups of neighbors who traveled daily to

1525
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree to help support the family. There was a

1526
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>search warrant issued for Ben's home in hopes of uncovering

1527
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:50.039
<v Speaker 1>more information. According to this affidavit, investigators did give him

1528
01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a lie detect your test, but we know that these

1529
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>are faulty and not admissible in most courts. This was

1530
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>while searchers were so looking for Eric in the Jostuh

1531
01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Tree Park. According to the affidavit, Ben Tearrifory admitted during

1532
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.239
<v Speaker 1>an interview with detectives that he found Eric dead inside

1533
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:08.479
<v Speaker 1>his tent. He said that happened the day he reported

1534
01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>his friend as missing. This is also where he admitted

1535
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to disposing of Eric's body by putting an inside an

1536
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>outhouse toilet at their campsite, but according to the affidavit,

1537
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:21.079
<v Speaker 1>that's when he wanted to stop talking to investigators and

1538
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:25.479
<v Speaker 1>then change the story altogether. Investigators say he later denied

1539
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>dumping Eric's body in an outhouse and said that's not

1540
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>where I put him. Investigators did indeed check several park toilets,

1541
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but searchers eventually found Eric's body lying in the middle

1542
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>of the desert, about three miles from the Jumbo Rocks campground.

1543
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's investigators tried hard to corroborate what Ben told them

1544
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about what happened while they were at the campsite before, during,

1545
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and after they had consumed the plan. Whatever information was

1546
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>given to us in the affidavit, investigators are looking into

1547
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it and looking at every scenario in the affidavit, they said.

1548
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.479
<v Speaker 1>But despite statements ben apparently made in this Affidavid, the

1549
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's department said he was not a suspect in the death.

1550
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>They did say that he is still a focus of

1551
01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>their investigation as they tried to figure out exactly how

1552
01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the seventeen year old ended up dead in the desert

1553
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>at Joshua Tree. No one was ever charged of anything

1554
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>in relation to the death of Eric Sears, and so

1555
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:21.439
<v Speaker 1>much of what happened remains a mystery. To make matters

1556
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>worse and even more sad, two San Bernardino County Sheriffs

1557
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Search and Rescue volunteers on their way to help search

1558
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for Eric, A thirty five year old man named Joseph

1559
01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Tidwell from Wonder Valley who was allegedly under the influence

1560
01:28:33.399 --> 01:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of several narcotic substances, lost consciousness due to his intoxication,

1561
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 1>causing his truck to drift across the roadway directly into

1562
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the path of the Sheriff's man, Scott Johnson, thirty of Redlands,

1563
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:48.439
<v Speaker 1>died at the scene. Philip Calvert, fifty eight, of Mentone,

1564
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>was transported to Desert Regional Medical Center with major injuries

1565
01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and sadly died early the next morning. Although this harmful

1566
01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:02.079
<v Speaker 1>plant isn't scheduled under the Controlled Substances Act, three states, Connecticut,

1567
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:06.119
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, and Tennessee at this time have passed legislation

1568
01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to control it. In addition, the FDA has asserted that

1569
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the beladonna alkaloids in this plant are neither safe nor

1570
01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:16.039
<v Speaker 1>effective in over the counter or other cough and cold inhalos,

1571
01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>So be careful what you put into your body. Hello, friends,

1572
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>In this video, going to take a look at Devil's

1573
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Hole and the tragic disappearance of two teens in nineteen

1574
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Now, there's just something about a place with

1575
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the name devil in its title that pigs the curiosity

1576
01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of some people. There are countless locations all over the

1577
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>world which have this particular word in their name. Not

1578
01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>only devil, either, there are many other words that symbolize

1579
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>or mean devil or evil, or some other form of

1580
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>something not very good or beautiful, given somewhat ironically to

1581
01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:07.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the world's most breathtaking and wondrous places. Sometimes

1582
01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:11.079
<v Speaker 1>the location will have got its name innocantly enough, such

1583
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:14.159
<v Speaker 1>as because the geology of the place simply looks foreboding

1584
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>and sinister, especially under the cover of night. Much of

1585
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the time, these particular places are said to be cursed, enchanted,

1586
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:27.479
<v Speaker 1>or downright evil, and the spooky and scary landscape only

1587
01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:32.039
<v Speaker 1>lends credence to these rumors and legends. So much of

1588
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the time, though, these places with this particular word in

1589
01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the title are associated with not just devils, demon spirits,

1590
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:46.079
<v Speaker 1>and other other worldly phenomena, but with real tragedies, disappearances, deaths,

1591
01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe bizarre sounds and strange lights in the sky. Today, though,

1592
01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>we're going to focus on one place in particular. We're

1593
01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a mysterious tragedy struck Devil's Whole, which is located in

1594
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the aptly named Death Valley National Park in California, United States.

1595
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>This portion of the Mojave Desert contained in Death Valley

1596
01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:12.039
<v Speaker 1>National Park is the driest and hottest place in the

1597
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:16.239
<v Speaker 1>United States. Near bad Water in the long trench of

1598
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the desert between the Panamint Range on the west and

1599
01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the Black Mountains on the east, is the lowest dry

1600
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:26.199
<v Speaker 1>land in the Western Hemisphere, an amazing two hundred and eighty.

1601
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Two feet below sea level.

1602
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:33.239
<v Speaker 1>A veritable showcase of desert extremes, Death Valley National Park

1603
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>includes one of the largest salt pans on Earth, dramatically

1604
01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>faulted landscapes, young volcanic craters, and massive dune fields. Today,

1605
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going all the way back to the year nineteen

1606
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:51.359
<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Death Valley was very different from the Los

1607
01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Angeles of the time, where there were uprisings happening all

1608
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.279
<v Speaker 1>over the place and all of it being shown live

1609
01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:02.319
<v Speaker 1>on the evening news. Valley, California, was in one of

1610
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the least populated parts of the state at the time,

1611
01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and a whole different world from the more largely inhabited

1612
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:13.199
<v Speaker 1>cities which surrounded it. On June twentieth, nineteen sixty five,

1613
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:17.119
<v Speaker 1>four high school buddies set out to remote desert location

1614
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about ninety miles northwest of Las Vegas. Their intent was

1615
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to joydive into a deep geothermal abyss called Devil's Hole. Sadly,

1616
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:31.279
<v Speaker 1>two the young men would never re emerge from this

1617
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:37.079
<v Speaker 1>mysterious fossil water portal. Arriving at their destination, the foursome

1618
01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>high cup of hot Barren hillsite, which overlooked a large

1619
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.359
<v Speaker 1>scale ranching operation that would nearly erase a much smaller

1620
01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and nearly ancient complex called ash Meadows. Within a few

1621
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>short years, A well trampled trail led to the entrance

1622
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of a limestone chasm that had allegedly opened a whopping

1623
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>sixty thousand years ago after possibly some seismic and caused

1624
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the roof of the cave to collapse in on itself.

1625
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>The Foursome of Boys, which was made up of Paul

1626
01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>gian Contery, a nineteen year old cafeteria worker at the

1627
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:14.279
<v Speaker 1>nearby Nevada Test Site, his new brother in law, twenty

1628
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>year old David Rose, who was a Las Vegas casino

1629
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>parking attendant, or with their other friend, nineteen year old

1630
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Bill Alter, and his younger brother Jack, Boys scrambled under

1631
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>a fenced enclosure posted with warning signs, and thinking they

1632
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:32.199
<v Speaker 1>were immune to any trouble these warning signs might be

1633
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>posted about, they proceeded to descend the thirty or so

1634
01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:38.399
<v Speaker 1>feet down to a ledge where the faint but flitting

1635
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:42.119
<v Speaker 1>movement of tiny blue gray pupfish could be observed swimming.

1636
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.239
<v Speaker 3>In the eight by sixty foot pool, that is, if.

1637
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Any of the four young men had bothered to look

1638
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:49.079
<v Speaker 1>just a bit closer at what they were about to

1639
01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 1>jump into. After suiting up with scuba tanks, masks, and

1640
01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>dive lights, Paul, David, and Bill dove into the claustrophobic waters.

1641
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>The temperature was nearly indistinguishable from that of their skin.

1642
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Upon entering the pool, The boys most likely disturbed the

1643
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>delicate algae's falling mats, where the entire population of the

1644
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>exceedingly rare Cyprinodon diabolus continues to prosper and breed exclusively.

1645
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Jack was the only one who hadn't jumped in, as

1646
01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>he was delegated the one who would remain stationed on

1647
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the ledge in case anything went wrong. Some time after midnight,

1648
01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Paul failed to resurface, so David and Bill quickly redove

1649
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>into the waters in a vain attempt to locate their

1650
01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:38.159
<v Speaker 1>missing friend. Bill Alter frantically followed David Rose down to

1651
01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>approximately one hundred and seventy feet until David too disappeared

1652
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>into the darkness. The bodies of the brothers in law

1653
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>were never recovered. Many people believed back then and still

1654
01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>do believe that these young men were inspired to go

1655
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>diving at night, despite the dangers in the specific place,

1656
01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>because of a newspaper article from the year before, which

1657
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>detailed spe leological research expedition of a massive underground lake

1658
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>below Death Valley led by California based professional diver Jim Houns,

1659
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>who would ironically dive numerous times around the clock with

1660
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>military personnel and other volunteer divers in their attempt to

1661
01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>locate the missing men for thirty six whole hours until

1662
01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the search was eventually called off. The only traces left

1663
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of the two brother in laws a mask and a snorkel.

1664
01:35:28.159 --> 01:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>There was also a flashlight tied to allege some hundred

1665
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>feet below. It seemed to signal and effectively the way

1666
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>out of the otherworldly underwater cave system. Articles detailing the

1667
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>unsuccessful rescue effort were published nationwide in the Sarasota Journal

1668
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:48.159
<v Speaker 1>date of June twenty second, eighteen sixty five. Out stated

1669
01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that he had previously dived in Devil's Hole around three

1670
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred times over twenty eight trips, further commenting it's beautiful

1671
01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:58.439
<v Speaker 1>in there. It goes straight down one hundred and sixty

1672
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>feet like a pipe, then opens into a room that

1673
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>is about three hundred feet long and maybe forty feet wide.

1674
01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>The bottom of the room is about two hundred and

1675
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty feet down. Then it narrows into another tube. I

1676
01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:16.119
<v Speaker 1>dive to three hundred and fifteen feet Maybe that's a record,

1677
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But at the end of the tube

1678
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it opens again into something else. We don't know what

1679
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the next room is, or if it's a room at all.

1680
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like infinity. There are some very terrifying legends from

1681
01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the native tribes of the area about this particular place

1682
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>called Devil's Hole. The Timbasha told tales of water babies

1683
01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>who'd surface and swallow a swimmer or dive or hole

1684
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>should they stay in the pool for too long. Other

1685
01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:49.479
<v Speaker 1>legends suggested that so a Pizi, a legendary malevolent giant

1686
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>who dwelled at mountain springs and caves, would snatch into

1687
01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>our unwary victims. Myths was standing. Barbara Durham, an elder

1688
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Tumbious who shared these stories at a two

1689
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand and two workshop, admitted that she and her friends

1690
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed how the pupfish tickled their toes when they played

1691
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>in the spring. Keep in mind here that the Devil's Whole. Pupfish,

1692
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.119
<v Speaker 1>as they're specifically named, are considered by experts to be

1693
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the rarest fish found anywhere on the planet. They were

1694
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:24.039
<v Speaker 1>even the first ever species to be classified as endangered.

1695
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>The fish are not important to the story at all, really,

1696
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.039
<v Speaker 1>but it seemed worth mentioning in order to reinforce how

1697
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 1>very special and perhaps a bit magical this place actually is.

1698
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:38.159
<v Speaker 1>As far as the two young men who disappeared without

1699
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 1>a trace back in this mystical and extremely dangerous underwater

1700
01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>cave system decades ago, well, they've never been found, and

1701
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:48.479
<v Speaker 1>neither have any clues relating to what could it possibly

1702
01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>happen to them. As for one more bit of interesting

1703
01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>fact that could lend a bit of credence as something

1704
01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a bit more sinister being afoot, as the local tribes

1705
01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:02.199
<v Speaker 1>absolutely believe that this other serene and tranquil looking water source.

1706
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It said that Charles Manson himself spent several days at

1707
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Devil's Hole trying to figure out a way to make

1708
01:38:10.760 --> 01:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it safely down into the chasm, with some saying he

1709
01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was convinced.

1710
01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:16.279
<v Speaker 3>He would never have to come back up.

1711
01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly, he had an obsession with the place and was

1712
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>convinced that there was an underwater portal to an alternate dimension,

1713
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:29.479
<v Speaker 1>or more specifically, a portal to the underworld, where he

1714
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:32.399
<v Speaker 1>felt he and his family would be able to safely

1715
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:35.479
<v Speaker 1>wait out the coming apocalypse. He so famously predicted what

1716
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>happened that never actually did. Charles Manson's problem lie in

1717
01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>figuring out a way to drain the hole, and it

1718
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>seemed like he may have been given this idea by

1719
01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>an alleged Indian legend that resurfaced during the nineteen twenties,

1720
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>contending that a subterranean sect of leather clad humanoids lived

1721
01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.079
<v Speaker 1>down within an early yellow green lid a boat somewhere

1722
01:38:58.119 --> 01:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>in the Mohave Desert.

1723
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:04.079
<v Speaker 5>Says Bill, planned on leaving the park before dark, and

1724
01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:06.960
<v Speaker 5>when she still hadn't heard from him by Friday morning,

1725
01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:10.199
<v Speaker 5>she called rangers, who launched a search effort that's.

1726
01:39:10.119 --> 01:39:13.960
<v Speaker 8>Grown an incredible story of survival. The hiker survived five

1727
01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:15.760
<v Speaker 8>days alone out in Joshua Tree.

1728
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>It all started on the last week of December in

1729
01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve. My mother and I were relaxing after work

1730
01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>watching TV when out of the corner of my eye,

1731
01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I noticed movement in our hallway. When I turned to look,

1732
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I noticed two shadowy like figures that appeared on our

1733
01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>hallway wall. In disbelief of what I was saying, I

1734
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:39.039
<v Speaker 1>turned my head over towards my mother, and right as

1735
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I did, she made eye contact with me and simply said,

1736
01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you see them, don't you?

1737
01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I said yes.

1738
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.039
<v Speaker 1>She told me not to acknowledge them, because they are

1739
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:51.039
<v Speaker 1>entities that consens fear. But in disbelief, I looked back

1740
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>over the hallway wall and they were gone. A few

1741
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>days had gone by, and my mother told me she

1742
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>felt a sense of dread and said someone in our

1743
01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>family is going to pass away before the end of

1744
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the year. Well, on New Year's Eve twenty twelve, my

1745
01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>mother and I celebrated at home. We watched the movie

1746
01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Tron and had a pizza delivered to ring in the

1747
01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>new year. I've always been a real mama's boy, so

1748
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>this was an ideal way for me to spend my

1749
01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:20.439
<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve. Around eleven pm that night, we saw

1750
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the two figures again. This time we both experienced an

1751
01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming quietness and sense of urgency and dread. We both

1752
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>did our best ignored and eventually the shadowy figures, And

1753
01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:35.199
<v Speaker 1>since this went away, we discussed the experience, and again

1754
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>my mother told me to never acknowledge them, and before

1755
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I could press her for more details, my mother started

1756
01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>telling me how much I meant to her and that

1757
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I would go on to do great things.

1758
01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:47.359
<v Speaker 3>In my life. She loved me, et cetera.

1759
01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>She then got up and walked towards the kitchen, turned

1760
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:55.199
<v Speaker 1>around and said I love you, then fell to the ground.

1761
01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I had previous EMT training and am certified in CPR,

1762
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>so I dialed nine to one one and explained to

1763
01:41:01.399 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>them my mother is in cardiac arrest and I needed

1764
01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>medical assistance asap. I was doing CPR on my mother

1765
01:41:08.279 --> 01:41:11.439
<v Speaker 1>for nearly twenty minutes, and for anyone who's ever done CPR,

1766
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not easy. The MTS arrived at eleven thirty eight

1767
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>pm and my mother was taken to the emergency room.

1768
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>By this time, our neighbor and friend, Bonnie, had rushed

1769
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>over to my house and drove me to the hospital.

1770
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>When I checked in at the front desk, I was

1771
01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>taken to a small private room and the physician told

1772
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:35.039
<v Speaker 1>me that my mother had passed away. The autopsy showed

1773
01:41:35.119 --> 01:41:38.159
<v Speaker 1>my mother suffered from a fatal heart attack and her

1774
01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>time of death was eleven fifty nine pm on December

1775
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty first, twenty twelve, when I was taken in to

1776
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>see her one last time. Her lips were blue. She

1777
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:51.159
<v Speaker 1>was cool to the touch, but she was still my mom,

1778
01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>so I just hugged her and couldn't let go for

1779
01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:58.079
<v Speaker 1>nearly thirty minutes. Thankfully, my neighbor Bonnie was there and

1780
01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:00.119
<v Speaker 1>gave me plenty of support and encouragement to leave eve

1781
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>as my mother would want me to stay strong. Fast

1782
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>forward about six months after my mother died, I'd quit

1783
01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.479
<v Speaker 1>my job and had become a recluse. I would only

1784
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>leave my house to purchase groceries. I quickly realized how

1785
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>severely depressed I was and decided it was time to

1786
01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.199
<v Speaker 1>get away. I ended up traveling to Joshua Tree National

1787
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Park and decided it would be my getaway to find

1788
01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:27.720
<v Speaker 1>some peace and closure. I notified my neighbor Bonny not

1789
01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to worry that I'm just going on a day's hike

1790
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and would be back by midnight. When I arrived at

1791
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree, I parked my jeep and entered the Lost

1792
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Palms Oasis Trail. After a few hours of walking and hiking,

1793
01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I stopped to take a break and eat. As I

1794
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>finished up and looked around, nothing looked familiar, and I,

1795
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:52.119
<v Speaker 1>in fact was not on any trail. I was not

1796
01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>too worried and felt confident I would find my way back.

1797
01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But as I made my way through the desert landscape

1798
01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that I did not recall ever passing, I started feeling

1799
01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>like I was being watched. I started to panic. Then

1800
01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I started hearing strange growling noises, but could not determine

1801
01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.159
<v Speaker 1>from what direction they were coming from. It almost seemed

1802
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>like they were all around me. So I stood in

1803
01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>one spot and made a three hundred and sixty degree rotation.

1804
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>As I came to stop, I saw something transparent, no

1805
01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>defining shape, just to blur directly in front of me

1806
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that was coming closer and closer to where I was standing.

1807
01:43:29.159 --> 01:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I quickly turned around and started walking faster and faster

1808
01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction, and then experienced the same overwhelming

1809
01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:38.079
<v Speaker 1>quietness and sense of urgency and dread I had experienced

1810
01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>with my mother just six months prior. Then, all of

1811
01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:44.039
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, almost like a snap of a finger, daytime

1812
01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>turned into night. I wasn't sure what was going on,

1813
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>but knew something wasn't right. After walking around in the dark.

1814
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I found myself by a large rock about as big

1815
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:58.199
<v Speaker 1>as a large suv and felt safest there. I put

1816
01:43:58.239 --> 01:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>my back against the rock. This way, I felt no

1817
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>otherhing would sneak up behind me. I used the knight

1818
01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to hydrate and eat some snacks I brought. I remember

1819
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to make sense out of what I was experiencing,

1820
01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>but knew that my mother and I had already experienced

1821
01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>something within our own home. But at least when I

1822
01:44:13.720 --> 01:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>was home, I felt safe here, I was vulnerable and alone.

1823
01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.720
<v Speaker 1>As I tried to rest that night, I started seeing

1824
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a number of shadowy entities walking around in the desert,

1825
01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>almost as if they were wandering around aimlessly. It freaked

1826
01:44:27.600 --> 01:44:31.119
<v Speaker 1>me out, and the more I acknowledged them, the closer

1827
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>they got to me. At one time during the night,

1828
01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling something breathing down my neck. Remember my

1829
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>back was against a huge rock. I just closed my

1830
01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:44.199
<v Speaker 1>eyes and did my best to keep them shut. The

1831
01:44:44.279 --> 01:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>last thing I remember about that night was opening my

1832
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:50.079
<v Speaker 1>eyes and seeing three shadowy figures, one at each side

1833
01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>and one directly in front of me. Then once again,

1834
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>in a snap, it was morning. I would experience the

1835
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.720
<v Speaker 1>same weirdness for two more days until the last day.

1836
01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:03.439
<v Speaker 1>On the last day of me roaming around Joshua Tree,

1837
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't had any food or water since the initial

1838
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>first night. I was scared and dehydrated. I came upon

1839
01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>another large rock and remembered in my MT training that

1840
01:45:14.119 --> 01:45:16.039
<v Speaker 1>digging a hole near a rock in the desert will

1841
01:45:16.079 --> 01:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>keep you cool and less likely to get severe sunburn.

1842
01:45:19.359 --> 01:45:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I did just that and thought to myself, I'm literally

1843
01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>digging my own grave. By the time I laid down

1844
01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:27.399
<v Speaker 1>in the two foot arch hole I had made and

1845
01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>covered my chest and legs up of dirt, I blacked out.

1846
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anything for the rest of that day

1847
01:45:34.079 --> 01:45:37.079
<v Speaker 1>or night. The next morning, I was woken by an

1848
01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>off duty search and rescue employee who was literally making

1849
01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>me choke on water. I remember him saying, there are

1850
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of people out looking for you, buddy.

1851
01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I was picked up by helicopter and taken a regional

1852
01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>medical center in Palm Springs, California. In the days during

1853
01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my recovery, I saw two detectives, a number of psychiatrists,

1854
01:45:57.279 --> 01:45:59.479
<v Speaker 1>and my neighbor Bonnie, who was there at the hospital

1855
01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:02.720
<v Speaker 1>by my side one hundred percent away. The detectives wanted

1856
01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to close the missing person's report. My neighbor Bonnie made

1857
01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:07.439
<v Speaker 1>the second day I was missing, but they asked me

1858
01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>strange questions like was I using a.

1859
01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Flare gun in the area?

1860
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:11.720
<v Speaker 9>No?

1861
01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:15.199
<v Speaker 1>And why had I purchased a large amount of camping

1862
01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>gear and survival materials prior to my hike. I'm going

1863
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>for a hike. Strange questions to ask someone, or maybe

1864
01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just me. The physician stated he thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>planning to myself due to the loss of my mother,

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01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:32.479
<v Speaker 1>but honestly, that never crossed my mind. The psychiatrist told

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01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:36.039
<v Speaker 1>me I didn't experience anything but hallucinations due to the

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01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>lack of food and water and effects of dehydration. My

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01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>neighbor Bonnie overheard my story and later confided in me

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01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that she too experienced similar shadowy figures when she hiked

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01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:50.159
<v Speaker 1>in Joshua Tree. When I arrived back home, she used

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01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>sage and other New Age methods to rid my house

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01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of whatever darkness was there. However, it continued all the

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01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>way up until I moved to Tennessee in twenty fourteen.

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01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.439
<v Speaker 1>The most aggressive was the transparent entities that were in

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01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree. I felt like everything was about to end

1877
01:47:07.039 --> 01:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when I encountered them. I've always wondered if my mother

1878
01:47:10.840 --> 01:47:14.119
<v Speaker 1>experienced more than what happened that night. I'm not sure

1879
01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what the hell happened those few days in Joshua Tree

1880
01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>National Park, but from what I can remember, during the

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01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:23.039
<v Speaker 1>moments when daytime would turn into night and snap, I

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01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was falling down or being suspended in

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01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>mid air before completely realizing what was going on. I

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01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>also remember a strong urge to go to Joshua Tree.

1885
01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I would think about going all the time, and when

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01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I finally went, almost felt like I was being called

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01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>there by something my sister often talks about my first

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01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>week living in Tennessee. She said that she felt like

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01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a demon was attached to me. One night as I

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01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:51.119
<v Speaker 1>slept on her couch. I woke up with her putting

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01:47:51.159 --> 01:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>holy water on my head and saying a prayer over me.

1892
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:56.199
<v Speaker 1>But I don't believe in all that I used to.

1893
01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:59.479
<v Speaker 1>But nowadays I have an easier time believing in alien

1894
01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:02.439
<v Speaker 1>abduction and portals rather than being followed around by demon.

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01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But then again, who knows?

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, I can tell you, with one d percent honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>I experienced all the above. I can't explain what it

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01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>or what they were, but I can tell you I

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01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like my life was spared for some strange reason.

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01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I didn't meet the requirements for whatever it is

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01:48:22.640 --> 01:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they need. Looking back now, I would never have gone

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01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>hiking alone. But again, I remember this irresistible urge to

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01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>go to Joshua Tree and would frequently feel like I

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01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>was being called.

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01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:41.279
<v Speaker 8>There hiking transitting on one of her most popular mountain peaks.

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<v Speaker 9>A woman from out of state dying after trying to

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01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:47.119
<v Speaker 9>hike Camelback Mountain. Fire official say she became overheated on

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01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:50.199
<v Speaker 9>the Echo Canyon trail, but instead of waiting for rescue crews,

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01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:53.960
<v Speaker 9>she went to find help herself. Then a deadly discovery.

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<v Speaker 9>Her body later found near the mountain, right outside a home.

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<v Speaker 8>A woman found dead near Camelback Mountain was thanking with

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01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.199
<v Speaker 8>a Phoenix cop, and tonight we know the woman's name

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<v Speaker 8>is Angela Tremonte, a thirty one year old visiting from Boston.

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<v Speaker 8>She was found dead Friday after separating from that cop

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01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:12.199
<v Speaker 8>to turn back down the mountain in the summer heat.

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<v Speaker 10>And she thought, because he was a police officer, she

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01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.760
<v Speaker 10>was sick and she wasn't. And I sent him the

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01:49:19.039 --> 01:49:23.159
<v Speaker 10>address where it was. It took them three hours to

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01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:26.520
<v Speaker 10>find her. And when I talked to Dario that night

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01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:29.279
<v Speaker 10>and asked him, when was the last time you saw

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01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:33.159
<v Speaker 10>my daughter, she said six hours ago? So not you

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01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:36.720
<v Speaker 10>why the police may not be investigating this, but I

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01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.279
<v Speaker 10>won't stop. I will not stop. There is something missing

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01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:43.560
<v Speaker 10>that I, as a mother, did not put my finger on.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends, today we're going to bring in a strange

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01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:55.319
<v Speaker 1>story about a first date hike that resulted in a

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01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:59.359
<v Speaker 1>young woman's death. Thirty one year old Angela Tremonte was

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01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:02.359
<v Speaker 1>visiting Phoenie, Arizona for the first time when she and

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01:50:02.439 --> 01:50:06.039
<v Speaker 1>a local police officer named Dario Dizdar decided to go

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01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>on a hike for their first date. The couple went

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<v Speaker 1>to Echo Canyon Trail near Scottsdale, Arizona. Echo Canyon Trail

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01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is a two point five mile heavily trafficked out and

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01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>back trail that offers scenic views and beautiful landscapes. The

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01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:25.399
<v Speaker 1>trail is rated as difficult, but Angela and Dario weren't concerned,

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01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:28.319
<v Speaker 1>as it was later reported that Dario was extremely familiar

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01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>with the mountain and hiked that exact trail often. According

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01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:35.039
<v Speaker 1>to reports, they started hiking together around ten am with

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01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>no water, but split up. Dario, an off duty police officer,

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01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>stated that he was a local and did this hike

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01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:42.720
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and that she was going to go

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01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as she could and turn around, according to

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01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:48.640
<v Speaker 1>an incident report followed by an unnamed park ranger. Now,

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01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.359
<v Speaker 1>according to what Dario told the authorities, he and Angela

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01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>were going for a day hike together for their first

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01:50:53.439 --> 01:50:57.199
<v Speaker 1>date on July thirtieth. He reported that she became overheated

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01:50:57.199 --> 01:50:59.479
<v Speaker 1>when they were about halfway up the trail and told

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01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>them she was wanted to head back down to the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Dario wanted had.

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01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>To finish the hike, assuming he would just meet her

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01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:09.039
<v Speaker 1>back at the vehicle when he was done. Angela wanted

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01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>him to take pictures of the view from the top

1953
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the mountain so she could share them on her

1954
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>social media camps. He finished his hike, but when he

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01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:19.079
<v Speaker 1>got back down to the car, Angela wasn't there and

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01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:23.479
<v Speaker 1>wasn't anywhere in sight. Her belongings were still in the car, however,

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01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is when Dario's police officer instincts kicked in

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01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and he decided to report it to the authorities that

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01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>his date was missing. Mark Ranger spoke with him on

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01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the mountain and the search commenced. Immediately, search teams arrived

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01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and began looking around common areas on the mountain where

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01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>people can get off the trail and get lost. More

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01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>than thirty fire personnel and a police helicopter scoured the

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01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>region looking for the missing woman. Initially, authorities were suspicious

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01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of Dario because they thought his initial statement was changing

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01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the more he retold what.

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01:51:53.960 --> 01:51:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Happened that day.

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01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>However, it was later realized that he had been misquoted

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01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>by local news media and therefore misunderstood. A Phoenix police

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01:52:03.640 --> 01:52:07.399
<v Speaker 1>spokesperson stated that the police department was not informed as

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01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:10.039
<v Speaker 1>to what the park rangers and officials had already asked

1972
01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Dario about the incident. Angela Tremonte was originally from the

1973
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Boston area and was visiting Phoenix for the first time,

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01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>specifically to meet and go on a date with Daria.

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01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>They had met and been chatting online, mainly by Instagram.

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01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:28.119
<v Speaker 1>It was less than twenty four hours from her arrival

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01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:32.479
<v Speaker 1>that Angela went missing and was then found deceased. Around

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01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:36.760
<v Speaker 1>four Bruce found Tremonte unconscious near home along the side

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01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of the mountain. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Police say no traumatic injuries were observed during the initial

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01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>investigation or during the autopsy. Police say Tremante had her

1982
01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:52.359
<v Speaker 1>cell phone with her when she was found. Fire officials

1983
01:52:52.479 --> 01:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>involved in the search stated they believe she was trying

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01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.199
<v Speaker 1>to signal to someone in the homes there near the

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01:52:57.239 --> 01:53:00.079
<v Speaker 1>mountain to get some help. She must have known she

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01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>was in trouble, but most likely had no cell service

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01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:06.159
<v Speaker 1>to call anyone for help or self. At this time,

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01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>there is no evidence to indicate foul play is suspected

1989
01:53:08.920 --> 01:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in connection with her tragic death. Police say Dario Disdar

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01:53:13.720 --> 01:53:16.199
<v Speaker 1>has been granted personal time off and has been offered

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01:53:16.239 --> 01:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>resources to deal.

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01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>With this tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Maricopa County Medical Examiner's website, Angela died

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01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:27.199
<v Speaker 1>of environmental heat exposure. Her death was ruled accidental by

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01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:31.319
<v Speaker 1>local and park authorities. Angela Tremante's friends set up a

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01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>gofund me account to bring her body back to the

1997
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Boston area. Angela's mother, however, isn't satisfied with the medical

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01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Examiner's findings. She's looking for answers after her daughter's cause

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01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:46.079
<v Speaker 1>of death was ruled to be from accidental heat exposure.

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01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm frustrated, said Nancy Tremonte, Angela's mother. My daughter was

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01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram person. She posted everything, thousands of photos per day,

2002
01:53:57.239 --> 01:54:00.159
<v Speaker 1>and she was always in the picture. And there's not

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01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>one picture of her going up the mountain or even

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01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona. She said, none of it makes sense. But

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01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>as we said, Americopa County Medical Examiner's office did recently

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01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>list Tremante's death as accidental and as a result of

2007
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>heat exposure. Phoenix police had previously stated investigators didn't find

2008
01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>anything suspicious about Tremonte's death. However, Tremante's family and friends

2009
01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>have had suspicions about the circumstances surrounding her death all along,

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01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>especially since the off Deedy police officer claimed he and

2011
01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Tremante didn't bring any water with him on a hike

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01:54:33.439 --> 01:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the summer. Angela's cousin doesn't believe it.

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01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:41.199
<v Speaker 1>It's difficult because we are all mourning her, but we

2014
01:54:41.279 --> 01:54:44.439
<v Speaker 1>can't fall back and be sad about the situation. We

2015
01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:50.159
<v Speaker 1>all have to fight, said Gabrielle Pletuccio, Angela's cousin. Angela

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01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was found deceased in a backyard off the trail. Investigators

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01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>believe she's in a desperate search for water. Speaking about

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01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>travel to Arizona to meet the officer, she was excited

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01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:04.399
<v Speaker 1>but nervous, said her cousin. She also made it a

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01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:06.600
<v Speaker 1>point to drink a whole gallon of water every day,

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01:55:07.159 --> 01:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>so it's very hard to believe that she would go

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01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.119
<v Speaker 1>on a hike in Arizona where it was one hundred

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01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and four degrees and not take any water. Autopsy reports

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01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:19.439
<v Speaker 1>recently released by the County Medical Examiner's office showed no

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01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>major regularities that were uncovered that would indicate Tremante's death

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01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:27.039
<v Speaker 1>could be tied to something other than heat exhaustion. A

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<v Speaker 1>toxicology report did show that Tremante had traces of amphetamine

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01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in her system, although her family told twelve News she

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01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:37.760
<v Speaker 1>had a prescription for adderall, which can produce high levels

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01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of amphetamine in the blood. Ramonte had three hundred and

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01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty nanograms per mile leader of amphetamine in her system

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01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:48.800
<v Speaker 1>at the time for death. According to the report, adults

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01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>who fatally overdose on amphetamine have on average nine thousand

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01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>nanograms per mole leader in their system. Autopsy report additionally

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01:55:57.720 --> 01:56:01.760
<v Speaker 1>turned up irregular linear dried red abrasions on Tremonte's body

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01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that ranged in size between four and ten centimeters. An

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01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:10.119
<v Speaker 1>examination of her head neck revealed no detectable abnormalities, according

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01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:14.479
<v Speaker 1>to the report. The report also stated that Tremonte's bone, framework,

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01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and soft tissues also appeared normal. Phoenix Police had previously

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01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:23.800
<v Speaker 1>said investigators didn't find anything suspicious about Tremonte's death. They

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01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:27.439
<v Speaker 1>further indicated no disciplinary measures will be taken against Dario

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01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>because no prime has been found. Hello, friends, Today we're

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01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:43.359
<v Speaker 1>going to take a look at legends, disappearances, and stories

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01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>of survival in Joshua Treat National Park, California. Joshua Treat

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01:56:49.239 --> 01:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>National Park is home to a vast and protected land

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01:56:52.439 --> 01:56:56.720
<v Speaker 1>located in southern California. The area was first designated as

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01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a National monument in nineteen thirty six a President Franklin

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01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Delano Roosevelt, and was later given national park status in

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01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:06.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four when the United States Congress passed the

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01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>California Desert Protection Act. The park spans more than seven

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01:57:11.079 --> 01:57:14.399
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety thousand acres, and over half is reserved

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01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>as wilderness. The park is well known for the tree

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01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that inspired its name, the Joshua Tree. Scientifically, it's known

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01:57:22.399 --> 01:57:25.399
<v Speaker 1>as the Yuckup brevifolio and as a member of the

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01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:29.560
<v Speaker 1>agave family. Joshua trees grow in a wide variety of formations,

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01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>from then a sparsely place to thick and crowded forests.

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01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>According to the National Park Service, of the mid nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>Mormon immigrants had made their way across the Colorado River

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01:57:40.560 --> 01:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and into the area that is now the National park.

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<v Speaker 1>Legend has it that these pioneers named the tree after

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<v Speaker 1>the biblical figure Joshua. Seeing the limbs of the tree

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01:57:49.720 --> 01:57:56.039
<v Speaker 1>has outstretched its supplication, guiding the travelers westward. Joshua Tree

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<v Speaker 1>National Park is a meeting ground between the low lying

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<v Speaker 1>western reach of the Sonor and De Lizzard and the

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01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>more vegetated Hi Bahabi Desert. The merging deserts give the

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<v Speaker 1>park a unique landscape with an abrupt transition between the

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<v Speaker 1>Sonoran and Mahabi ecosystems. Joshua Tree offers visitors a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of outdoor activities, including the typical hiking, biking, camping, and

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<v Speaker 1>horseback riding. There are large boulders throughout the park that

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<v Speaker 1>make it a well known rock climbing destination, and the

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<v Speaker 1>night skies provide crystal clear stargazing. The natural beauty of

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01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the park is a key factor in its popularity. But

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<v Speaker 1>despite all the beauty found in Joshua Tree, inexplicable things

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01:58:36.439 --> 01:58:39.039
<v Speaker 1>have been known to happen here, some of which are

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<v Speaker 1>truly horrifying. Let's look at local legends, disappearances as survival

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01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>stories from Joshua Tree National Park. First up, Desert Dungeon.

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<v Speaker 1>In the depths of Joshua Tree National Park, there's a

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01:58:54.359 --> 01:58:58.079
<v Speaker 1>strange cave, which is actually an enclosure constructed around a

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01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>large boulder and sealed with an iron door. There long

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01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>enduring legends attached to this cave. Some people think perhaps

2081
01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it was where local farm restored dynamite. Others theorized it

2082
01:59:09.880 --> 01:59:13.319
<v Speaker 1>was where rustlers or gold thieves kept their loot. The

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01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>energy it radiates, however, is much more sinister, darker, more disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Legends exist, probably rooted in truth about the cave being

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01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:28.720
<v Speaker 1>used to hold people captive. One story with many versions,

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01:59:28.800 --> 01:59:31.880
<v Speaker 1>maintains that a local family and born a horribly disfigured

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01:59:31.920 --> 01:59:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and mentally impaired son who was huge and monstrous. The

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01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:38.439
<v Speaker 1>family hid him away from society, locking him up in

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01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:42.159
<v Speaker 1>this rocket iron desert dungeon. The father would bring him food,

2090
01:59:42.399 --> 01:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>but the poor soul spent his days and nights of prisoner.

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01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Growing tired of this miserable existence, the disfigured man broke

2092
01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:52.479
<v Speaker 1>out of his prison and fled, leaving the iron door

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01:59:52.479 --> 01:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ajar for his father to find. Upon his return. Searching

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01:59:56.640 --> 02:00:00.840
<v Speaker 1>far and wide, the father couldn't find his son. Reports

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02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and rumors began to surface about random brutal attacks on

2096
02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:08.359
<v Speaker 1>travelers who sustained injuries like they were surrogants being punished

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02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:12.600
<v Speaker 1>for someone else's horrible misgivings. The legend holds that the

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02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>tortured man was never caught, and he, or whatever's left

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02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:19.479
<v Speaker 1>of him, could still be out there today roaming Joshua Tree,

2100
02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:23.399
<v Speaker 1>looking for unsuspecting travelers to make them atone for his

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02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>father's sins. Next up, we have the Yuckaman. The first

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<v Speaker 1>reported sighting of the Yucker Man happened in nineteen seventy one,

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02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>provided by a source not normally keen on believing in

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02:00:36.800 --> 02:00:40.399
<v Speaker 1>the other worldly. A United States marine was on guard

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02:00:40.479 --> 02:00:43.279
<v Speaker 1>duty at the base in Joshua Tree's twenty nine Palms.

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02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Well into his overnight shift. The marine was keeping posts

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02:00:47.399 --> 02:00:51.119
<v Speaker 1>duty required when a huge and seemingly human man came

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02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:54.880
<v Speaker 1>out of darkness toward him. As the burly being drew closer,

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02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the marine caught sight of the man's successive hair growth

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02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.399
<v Speaker 1>as abnormally long arms, which hung well below the knees.

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02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:04.880
<v Speaker 1>The marine lifted his rifle and gave an order to halt,

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02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:07.960
<v Speaker 1>but then the strange man lunged forward and snatched the

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02:01:08.079 --> 02:01:11.640
<v Speaker 1>rifle away, surprising the marine and knocking him off stands.

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02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:15.479
<v Speaker 1>He was startled, but caught himself and watched as the

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02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:18.439
<v Speaker 1>wild man bent the metal rifle barrel in half with

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02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:21.960
<v Speaker 1>his bare hands. The broad shouldered beast of a man

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02:01:22.079 --> 02:01:25.359
<v Speaker 1>gave a grunt and then knocked the marine unconscious, perhaps

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02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with the butt of his own weapon. When he came to,

2119
02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the giant man was gone, but his disfigured gun lay

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02:01:32.640 --> 02:01:37.159
<v Speaker 1>next to him. Even so the marine couldn't move. The

2121
02:01:37.239 --> 02:01:40.159
<v Speaker 1>blow he sustained had caused a lot of damage. He

2122
02:01:40.279 --> 02:01:43.079
<v Speaker 1>lay there half conscious until the next morning, when he

2123
02:01:43.159 --> 02:01:47.720
<v Speaker 1>was found by the relief guard. Reportedly, both the CIA

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02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and the FBI were brought in to investigate, as this

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02:01:51.439 --> 02:01:54.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only incident to be reported. There were at

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02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:58.760
<v Speaker 1>least two other sightings that same night. Wonderport described the

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02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>man as being nearly two feet tall, but with a smaller,

2128
02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>unknown figure by its side. Several people also reported that

2129
02:02:06.600 --> 02:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>their dogs had barked and acted strangely that evening. In

2130
02:02:10.840 --> 02:02:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the same year, there were reports from employees at Joshua

2131
02:02:13.880 --> 02:02:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Tree stating they had also seen the large hairy figure.

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02:02:17.720 --> 02:02:20.560
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy nine, a couple on a trip to

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02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree said they were forced to slam on the

2134
02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:25.680
<v Speaker 1>brakes in their car one night when what they described

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02:02:25.720 --> 02:02:28.119
<v Speaker 1>as a large hairy man stood in the middle of

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02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the road near their condominium in Desert Hot Springs. They

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02:02:32.640 --> 02:02:34.960
<v Speaker 1>recalled that he just stepped from behind a yucca bush

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02:02:35.039 --> 02:02:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and stood in front of the car, refused to move.

2139
02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.640
<v Speaker 1>The couple claimed the creature's hairy chest was the size

2140
02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of a refrigerator and its arms were abnormally long. Sounds familiar.

2141
02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.359
<v Speaker 1>It had lengthy tan hair that swished back and forth

2142
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as it walked away and disappeared into the night, but

2143
02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>only after frightening them. Senseless evidence was left behind it.

2144
02:02:56.399 --> 02:03:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Yet more Yukaman's sightings in nineteen seventy nine in him It, California.

2145
02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:05.319
<v Speaker 1>This beast seen on two separate occasions. This being left

2146
02:03:05.359 --> 02:03:08.479
<v Speaker 1>behind seventeen footprints that were said to be a foot

2147
02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:12.439
<v Speaker 1>and a half long, spanning six feet apart. Two prominent

2148
02:03:12.520 --> 02:03:16.199
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot researchers worked the area looking for further information, but

2149
02:03:16.399 --> 02:03:17.760
<v Speaker 1>nothing more has surfaced.

2150
02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Skin Walkers.

2151
02:03:21.800 --> 02:03:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Toys of skinned walkers inhabiting the Joshua Tree area date

2152
02:03:24.840 --> 02:03:29.439
<v Speaker 1>back many centuries. The Native American Navajo tribe first experienced

2153
02:03:29.479 --> 02:03:33.840
<v Speaker 1>these beings several hundred years ago, calling them ey Nagloshi,

2154
02:03:34.720 --> 02:03:36.399
<v Speaker 1>meaning he who walks.

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02:03:36.199 --> 02:03:37.000
<v Speaker 3>On all fours.

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02:03:37.640 --> 02:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>The legend of the skin walkers hold forth that they

2157
02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:43.319
<v Speaker 1>are actually human shape shifters that were once shamans of

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02:03:43.359 --> 02:03:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the Navajo tribe. The shamans, who used their gifts for

2159
02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:50.439
<v Speaker 1>evil like herding or cursing people, were turned into skin walkers,

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02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:53.880
<v Speaker 1>able to take the form of various animals like fox,

2161
02:03:54.199 --> 02:03:57.680
<v Speaker 1>birds of coyotes. The Navajo people tried to keep their

2162
02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:00.920
<v Speaker 1>existence from becoming known to the outside world, but over

2163
02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a century ago, weird and often terrifying things began happening

2164
02:04:04.680 --> 02:04:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to outsiders in Joshua Tree, so terrifying, in fact, that

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02:04:09.159 --> 02:04:11.960
<v Speaker 1>some Navajo people refuse to this date to speak of

2166
02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the skinwalkers for fear of drawing them to them. Campers, visitors,

2167
02:04:16.600 --> 02:04:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and other travelers are reported being attacked and often taunted

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02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:22.720
<v Speaker 1>by these beings. Some campers have claimed that when a

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02:04:22.760 --> 02:04:25.600
<v Speaker 1>skin walker is near, it's like they're being drawn toward

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02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:31.159
<v Speaker 1>whatever the creature is mimicking. Skinwalker attacks are sometimes even deadly,

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02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:34.479
<v Speaker 1>with evil beings sinking their teeth into human flesh and

2172
02:04:34.600 --> 02:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ripping people apart. Those who live to tell the tale

2173
02:04:38.000 --> 02:04:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of a skinwalker attack are never the same, and they

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02:04:40.760 --> 02:04:47.520
<v Speaker 1>always carry scars, both of the physical and psychological varieties. Next,

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02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:51.840
<v Speaker 1>let's look at some strange disappearances from Joshua Tree National Park.

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02:04:53.560 --> 02:04:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Paul Miller, fifty one years old, disappeared on July thirteenth,

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02:04:58.039 --> 02:05:01.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, in Joshua Tree National Park. He was on

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02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:04.920
<v Speaker 1>vacation with his wife, Stephanie at the time of his disappearance.

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02:05:05.920 --> 02:05:09.199
<v Speaker 1>They were traveling in celebration of their twenty sixth wedding anniversary.

2180
02:05:10.159 --> 02:05:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Backwoods camping, hiking, and kayaking were typical pastimes for the couple.

2181
02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:18.680
<v Speaker 1>They were in great shape and loved the outdoors. Paul

2182
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:20.439
<v Speaker 1>last spoke with his wife when he told her that

2183
02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:22.520
<v Speaker 1>he was going out from one last hike in the park.

2184
02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:26.720
<v Speaker 1>He planned on hiking the popular forty nine Palms Oasis

2185
02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Trail before they were to begin their journey back to Ontario, Canada.

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02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:33.239
<v Speaker 1>He left their hotel room around nine am that morning

2187
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and drove to the trailhead. When Paul didn't return by

2188
02:05:36.960 --> 02:05:41.439
<v Speaker 1>the hotel checkout time, Stephanie became worried. Around noon, she

2189
02:05:41.600 --> 02:05:45.079
<v Speaker 1>contacted park officials and a search and rescue mission was launched.

2190
02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Paul's rental car was found where he parked at the trailhead,

2191
02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:52.039
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't with it. Rangers hiked the trail looking

2192
02:05:52.119 --> 02:05:55.279
<v Speaker 1>for him, but to no avail. Paul also didn't have

2193
02:05:55.319 --> 02:05:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a cell phone on him, but this was not out

2194
02:05:57.680 --> 02:06:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of the ordinary. The search for paulk continued for five

2195
02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:03.279
<v Speaker 1>days with not so much as a trace of evidence

2196
02:06:03.319 --> 02:06:07.159
<v Speaker 1>servicing aside from his rental car. The search included over

2197
02:06:07.239 --> 02:06:11.640
<v Speaker 1>six hundred volunteers, multiple agencies, k nines, high tech equipment,

2198
02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and lots of hope, but nothing was found. Park superintendent

2199
02:06:16.439 --> 02:06:19.039
<v Speaker 1>David Smith said, we have a witness who saw Paul

2200
02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:23.000
<v Speaker 1>at the trailhead that morning, but that's all. Another visitor

2201
02:06:23.079 --> 02:06:25.479
<v Speaker 1>from England that was at the park that morning reported

2202
02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:28.920
<v Speaker 1>seeing Paul at around nine am walking quickly and with purpose.

2203
02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:34.079
<v Speaker 1>About halfway down the trail. No other sightings were reported. However,

2204
02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:38.159
<v Speaker 1>on December twenty first, twenty nineteen, in PS authorities and

2205
02:06:38.239 --> 02:06:41.520
<v Speaker 1>San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department reported that human remains had

2206
02:06:41.560 --> 02:06:44.199
<v Speaker 1>been found in a remote and rocky part of Joshua Tree.

2207
02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Official state of the discovery came about through photographs taken

2208
02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:51.239
<v Speaker 1>by a drone fly over the area in November. On

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02:06:51.399 --> 02:06:54.560
<v Speaker 1>December twenty, park ranger's height to the area where they

2210
02:06:54.760 --> 02:06:59.119
<v Speaker 1>found human skeletal remains. In personal longings, there was no

2211
02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:01.840
<v Speaker 1>identification with the remains, which appeared to have been there

2212
02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:05.439
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. Upon the discovery of these remains,

2213
02:07:05.520 --> 02:07:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the Miller family prepared themselves for the likelihood that those

2214
02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:13.520
<v Speaker 1>belonged to Paul. It's been a tough journey, waiting, waiting, waiting.

2215
02:07:14.359 --> 02:07:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Then you hear he's been found, It doesn't make it

2216
02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:21.239
<v Speaker 1>any easier. Stephanie Miller said in a phone interview. Speculation

2217
02:07:21.479 --> 02:07:24.319
<v Speaker 1>is that whatever happened that caused his death happened quickly,

2218
02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:28.920
<v Speaker 1>she said, possibly a heart attack or heat stroke. He

2219
02:07:29.119 --> 02:07:31.720
<v Speaker 1>was found in a shaded area and still had water

2220
02:07:31.840 --> 02:07:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and food. It appeared he had made the heike to

2221
02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:37.720
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Palms Oasis, but was coming back from trail

2222
02:07:37.840 --> 02:07:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. Early in the search for Paul, teams

2223
02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:43.520
<v Speaker 1>had gotten close enough to where the remains were found

2224
02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:45.439
<v Speaker 1>that he would have heard and responded when they called

2225
02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:48.279
<v Speaker 1>out his name, She said, adding there is comfort knowing

2226
02:07:48.359 --> 02:07:51.079
<v Speaker 1>he didn't suffer long. I hated to think he was suffering,

2227
02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and we couldn't find him. As of January nineteenth, twenty

2228
02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:59.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty two time of recording, Paul Miller's case has no

2229
02:07:59.600 --> 02:08:06.359
<v Speaker 1>further updates. Another disappearance in Joshua Tree was that of

2230
02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:11.359
<v Speaker 1>William Michael Euasco. Sixty five year old William Michael Ouasco,

2231
02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:15.159
<v Speaker 1>known as Bill, disappeared on June twenty fourth, twenty ten,

2232
02:08:15.560 --> 02:08:18.000
<v Speaker 1>from Joshua Tree National Park while on a day Hi.

2233
02:08:19.119 --> 02:08:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Bill lived in Marietta, Georgia, along with his freance Mary Winston.

2234
02:08:23.680 --> 02:08:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill was a strong hiker with experience in the wilderness,

2235
02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:28.439
<v Speaker 1>and he had loved Joshua Tree for a long time

2236
02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:32.199
<v Speaker 1>and visited the park almost yearly. He was an Army

2237
02:08:32.279 --> 02:08:35.079
<v Speaker 1>veteran who had served in Vietnam and he loved to

2238
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:39.039
<v Speaker 1>be outdoors. It was on a Wednesday, June twenty third,

2239
02:08:39.159 --> 02:08:43.039
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, When Bill arrived at Lax from Georgia, he

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02:08:43.159 --> 02:08:47.039
<v Speaker 1>rented a white Chrystler Seabring and drove to Rancho Mirage, California.

2241
02:08:47.880 --> 02:08:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill was staying at a friend's vacant condo on this

2242
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:54.359
<v Speaker 1>particular trip. On Thursday, the twenty fourth of June, he

2243
02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:57.479
<v Speaker 1>headed for Joshua Tree, making a couple of calls along

2244
02:08:57.560 --> 02:09:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the way. Bill told his beon s Mary that he

2245
02:09:00.640 --> 02:09:03.119
<v Speaker 1>planned on leaving the park by five pm and was

2246
02:09:03.159 --> 02:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>going to have dinner that evening at the Pioneer Town

2247
02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:09.640
<v Speaker 1>restaurant Pappy in Harriet's. Mary believed that Bill was planning

2248
02:09:09.680 --> 02:09:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the hike too a place called Carry's Castle, which was

2249
02:09:12.479 --> 02:09:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the first item on the planet a tenerary he'd left

2250
02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with her. That would have been an ambitious hike for

2251
02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:20.039
<v Speaker 1>the time of year, though due to the high temperatures

2252
02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:24.079
<v Speaker 1>in the lower portion of Joshua Tree. Mary was uncomfortable

2253
02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:27.039
<v Speaker 1>with the destination choice due to its remoteness and had

2254
02:09:27.119 --> 02:09:30.239
<v Speaker 1>asked him to reconsider. Bill just laughed it off and

2255
02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:33.720
<v Speaker 1>gave no indication he was changing his mind. When Bill

2256
02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:36.720
<v Speaker 1>failed to call Mary that evening, she grew concerned and

2257
02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:41.359
<v Speaker 1>began making calls early the next day. Friday, June twenty five,

2258
02:09:41.600 --> 02:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree officials had been notified of the incident and

2259
02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:48.159
<v Speaker 1>were given a description of Bill's vehicle along with his itinerary.

2260
02:09:49.319 --> 02:09:52.600
<v Speaker 1>By mid morning, rangers to check the trailhead for Carry's Castle,

2261
02:09:52.880 --> 02:09:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but found no vehicles. They began checking other areas of

2262
02:09:56.880 --> 02:09:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the park, but it wasn't until four fifty six pm

2263
02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:03.319
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, June twenty sixth at the California Highway Patrol

2264
02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:06.960
<v Speaker 1>copter spotted Bill's vehicle park at the Juniper Flats trailhead,

2265
02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:10.359
<v Speaker 1>which is a regular starting point for visitors wanting to

2266
02:10:10.399 --> 02:10:13.520
<v Speaker 1>hike to the top of Quail Mountain, a destination also

2267
02:10:13.600 --> 02:10:18.720
<v Speaker 1>listed on Bill's itinerary. Ranger stayed with Bill's car overnight

2268
02:10:18.880 --> 02:10:20.880
<v Speaker 1>just in case he came back, but he never showed.

2269
02:10:21.479 --> 02:10:24.560
<v Speaker 1>There was one known visitor to Jennifer Flats trailhead on

2270
02:10:24.640 --> 02:10:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the day Bill disappeared, a hiker named Greg Mendoza. At

2271
02:10:29.239 --> 02:10:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the time of his arrival around ten twenty am, there

2272
02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was no one else at the trailhead, but upon his

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02:10:34.640 --> 02:10:37.359
<v Speaker 1>return between five point thirty and six pm, he saw

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<v Speaker 1>Bill's car. He also saw a single line of fresh

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02:10:40.680 --> 02:10:43.800
<v Speaker 1>boot tracks going up the old Jennifer Flats Road. This

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02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:46.439
<v Speaker 1>means that Bill's car had arrived at the parking lot

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02:10:46.800 --> 02:10:50.239
<v Speaker 1>no earlier than ten twenty am, leaving at minimum a

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<v Speaker 1>near two and a half hour gap from his last

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02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:55.600
<v Speaker 1>phone call. It should have only taken Bill about half

2280
02:10:55.680 --> 02:10:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that time to reach Juniper Flats trailhead, so it's unknown

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02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:02.479
<v Speaker 1>where Bill was for the extra hour or so. By

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02:11:02.560 --> 02:11:06.439
<v Speaker 1>this point, an official search and rescue operation began, focusing

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02:11:06.600 --> 02:11:09.840
<v Speaker 1>mainly on Quail Mountain, but also involving other areas that

2284
02:11:09.920 --> 02:11:12.920
<v Speaker 1>he could have accessed from the Jenniper Flat's trailhead. The

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02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:17.119
<v Speaker 1>official search continued until July fifth, twenty ten, eleven days

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02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:20.880
<v Speaker 1>after Bill's disappearance, and involved hundreds of search and rescue

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02:11:20.880 --> 02:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>personnel Included in these search and rescue teams from all

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02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:30.880
<v Speaker 1>over southern California, where canine units, horseback riders, civilian volunteers, helicopters,

2289
02:11:30.960 --> 02:11:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and a fixed wing aircraft. In total, about seven hundred

2290
02:11:34.720 --> 02:11:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and seventy miles of GPS tracks from ground searchers were logged.

2291
02:11:38.760 --> 02:11:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Only a red bandana believed to belong to Bill, was

2292
02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>found on the ridge near Quayll Mountain. Throughout all these efforts,

2293
02:11:45.960 --> 02:11:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the unofficial search continued on despite the lack of evidence,

2294
02:11:50.279 --> 02:11:53.640
<v Speaker 1>even with many people being involved after the official search ended.

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02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:57.239
<v Speaker 1>As of this recording in January of twenty twenty two,

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02:11:57.800 --> 02:12:02.119
<v Speaker 1>bill Owasco remains missing and there have been no further updates.

2297
02:12:04.159 --> 02:12:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Choe Lauren Ell Choe disappeared on June twenty eighth,

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02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:12.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, from the area between Marongo and Yucca

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02:12:12.520 --> 02:12:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Valleys in California. Lauren grew up in Hunterdon County, New Jersey,

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02:12:16.920 --> 02:12:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and with mother nicknamed Elle. She studied music education at

2301
02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Westminster Choir College and became a high school music teacher. However,

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02:12:26.359 --> 02:12:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Elle quit her teaching job in the winter of twenty twenty.

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02:12:29.520 --> 02:12:32.199
<v Speaker 1>She then joined her friend Cody Orrel on a road

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02:12:32.239 --> 02:12:35.720
<v Speaker 1>trip cross country. She joined this trip with the intention

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02:12:35.800 --> 02:12:37.800
<v Speaker 1>of running a food truck once they arrived at their

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02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:42.640
<v Speaker 1>final destination, Bombay Beach, California. By June twenty twenty one,

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02:12:43.279 --> 02:12:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Elle was working as the private chef for an Airbnb

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<v Speaker 1>property called The Whole, owned by Tao Ruspoli. The property

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02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:53.680
<v Speaker 1>is located between Yucca and Morongo Valleys outside of Joshua

2310
02:12:53.720 --> 02:12:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Tree National Park. On June twenty eighth, twenty twenty one,

2311
02:12:58.359 --> 02:13:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Elle took off on her own after he had argument

2312
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<v Speaker 1>ensued between she and her friend, Cody. The housekeeper at

2313
02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the Airbnb property claimed that both Ell and Cody had

2314
02:13:07.399 --> 02:13:10.000
<v Speaker 1>been drinking since early in the day and l had

2315
02:13:10.079 --> 02:13:13.039
<v Speaker 1>become aggravated when Cody refused to let her drive away,

2316
02:13:13.359 --> 02:13:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so she took off on foot, leaving her phone and

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02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:18.920
<v Speaker 1>taking no food or water. This was around three in

2318
02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. Cody called the Sheriff's office around five thirteen

2319
02:13:23.039 --> 02:13:26.119
<v Speaker 1>PM when his initial search rail which included some of

2320
02:13:26.199 --> 02:13:30.119
<v Speaker 1>their other friends, came up empty. They didn't find so

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02:13:30.279 --> 02:13:33.800
<v Speaker 1>much as a single footprint. Elle was last seen wearing

2322
02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a yellow T shirt and blue jeans shorts when she

2323
02:13:35.960 --> 02:13:39.119
<v Speaker 1>walked away from where she was staying. Cody thought she

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02:13:39.239 --> 02:13:41.800
<v Speaker 1>might have gotten into a vehicle with someone, considering there

2325
02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:45.399
<v Speaker 1>were no tracks and Elle was supposedly planning on meeting

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02:13:45.439 --> 02:13:48.600
<v Speaker 1>an unknown individual later in the day anyway, although this

2327
02:13:48.840 --> 02:13:52.960
<v Speaker 1>theory was never confirmed. Law enforcement officials, as well as

2328
02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:55.479
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue teams come to the area on foot,

2329
02:13:55.960 --> 02:13:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and included K nine rescue teams and a fixed wing

2330
02:13:58.920 --> 02:14:02.680
<v Speaker 1>aircraft which was used conduct aeri of searches. The Morongo

2331
02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Basin Sheriff Station told reporters that their helicopter, along with

2332
02:14:06.399 --> 02:14:08.560
<v Speaker 1>members of the Search and Rescue unit, had been searching

2333
02:14:08.640 --> 02:14:12.520
<v Speaker 1>for L since her disappearance. However, they believe that L

2334
02:14:12.680 --> 02:14:15.479
<v Speaker 1>was voluntarily missing due to no evidence of foul play.

2335
02:14:16.199 --> 02:14:20.039
<v Speaker 1>The Specialized Investigation Divisions of the San Bernardino County Sheriff's

2336
02:14:20.039 --> 02:14:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Department began assisting in the search rail in September of

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02:14:23.239 --> 02:14:26.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. However, this was a good three months

2338
02:14:26.640 --> 02:14:31.319
<v Speaker 1>after her disappearance. Despite these efforts, no evidence of her

2339
02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:34.720
<v Speaker 1>whereabouts came to light. Cody and some of L's other

2340
02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:38.239
<v Speaker 1>friends tried bringing awareness to her disappearance by using social

2341
02:14:38.359 --> 02:14:42.399
<v Speaker 1>media platforms. They also posted flyers all around the Bombay

2342
02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Beach area, but nothing came of it. No one came

2343
02:14:46.359 --> 02:14:50.159
<v Speaker 1>forward claiming to have seen L. The search continued until

2344
02:14:50.159 --> 02:14:54.319
<v Speaker 1>October ninth, twenty twenty one, when investigators found human remains

2345
02:14:54.359 --> 02:14:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in the rugged terrain of Yaco Valley. On October twenty

2346
02:14:57.600 --> 02:15:00.319
<v Speaker 1>eighth of twenty twenty one, it was confirmed that the

2347
02:15:00.399 --> 02:15:04.720
<v Speaker 1>remains found did indeed belong to L. Because in manter

2348
02:15:04.760 --> 02:15:08.199
<v Speaker 1>of for passing have not been released as of this recording.

2349
02:15:08.279 --> 02:15:11.840
<v Speaker 1>In January of twenty twenty two, large show's case has

2350
02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:16.439
<v Speaker 1>no further updates. Next it brings us to the disappearance

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02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of Patrick Lynn Wells. Thirty eight year old Patrick Wells

2352
02:15:20.760 --> 02:15:23.800
<v Speaker 1>disappeared on June five, twenty twenty one, from Joshua Tree

2353
02:15:23.880 --> 02:15:28.319
<v Speaker 1>National Park. Park spokesperson Jenny Albrink stated that Patrick was

2354
02:15:28.439 --> 02:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>last seen on June fifth, when he left to drive

2355
02:15:30.880 --> 02:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to his dad's house. Patrick was from twenty nine Palms

2356
02:15:34.760 --> 02:15:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was heading your Riverside. He never made it

2357
02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:41.199
<v Speaker 1>to his destination and was officially reported missing on June ten.

2358
02:15:42.119 --> 02:15:45.319
<v Speaker 1>He's described as a Caucasian male five feet ten inches tall,

2359
02:15:45.800 --> 02:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>playing about one hundred and ninety seven pounds. He has

2360
02:15:48.920 --> 02:15:51.680
<v Speaker 1>brown hair and brown eyes, as well as a dragon

2361
02:15:51.800 --> 02:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and a United States Marine Corps.

2362
02:15:53.479 --> 02:15:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Insignia tattoo on his arms.

2363
02:15:56.319 --> 02:15:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Is believed he was wearing a white T shirt, blue jeans,

2364
02:15:58.600 --> 02:16:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and either tennis shoes or black work boots at the

2365
02:16:00.920 --> 02:16:05.119
<v Speaker 1>time of his disappearance. Park officials found Patrick's truck in

2366
02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the Indian Cove parking lot of the Rattlesnake Canyon area

2367
02:16:08.159 --> 02:16:12.239
<v Speaker 1>on the day was reported missing. Joshua Tree National Park

2368
02:16:12.319 --> 02:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>began investigating and organized a search. The efforts continued until

2369
02:16:16.760 --> 02:16:19.239
<v Speaker 1>The search was hauled at June twelfth, twenty twenty one,

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02:16:19.840 --> 02:16:22.479
<v Speaker 1>on discovery of human remains in a hiking area of

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02:16:22.560 --> 02:16:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree. Soon after, the coroner confirmed the remains belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to Patrick, though no cause of his passing was listed.

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02:16:31.159 --> 02:16:33.840
<v Speaker 1>As of January nineteenth, twenty twenty one, the date of

2374
02:16:33.920 --> 02:16:37.280
<v Speaker 1>this recording, there have been no further updates on the

2375
02:16:37.360 --> 02:16:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Wells case. Next, we have Erica Ashley Lloyd. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven year old Erica Lloyd was last seen on June fourteenth,

2377
02:16:47.799 --> 02:16:52.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, at her home in Walnut Creek, San Bernardino County, California.

2378
02:16:53.440 --> 02:16:55.440
<v Speaker 1>She told her family she was going on a camping

2379
02:16:55.520 --> 02:16:59.799
<v Speaker 1>trip to Joshua Tree National Park. Erica's mob ruth since

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02:16:59.840 --> 02:17:01.879
<v Speaker 1>she he was just trying to make ends meet like

2381
02:17:02.000 --> 02:17:06.200
<v Speaker 1>so many others during the pandemic. Erica owned a salon

2382
02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:10.959
<v Speaker 1>called Bloom in Alamo, California, but when the mandatory closures

2383
02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and other restrictions came about due to the pandemic, Erica's

2384
02:17:13.959 --> 02:17:15.920
<v Speaker 1>salon closed down and didn't reopen.

2385
02:17:17.200 --> 02:17:17.680
<v Speaker 3>The trip to.

2386
02:17:17.719 --> 02:17:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree was to be a chance for her to

2387
02:17:19.520 --> 02:17:21.799
<v Speaker 1>get away from all the negativity for a little while.

2388
02:17:23.239 --> 02:17:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Erica's described as five foot three inches tall, one hundred

2389
02:17:25.920 --> 02:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five pounds, and house brown hair and blue eyes.

2390
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<v Speaker 1>According to Erica's roommate, she said she was planning to

2391
02:17:32.360 --> 02:17:35.600
<v Speaker 1>meet other people at Joshua Tree. However, the identities of

2392
02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:37.959
<v Speaker 1>those people she was supposedly planning to meet are still

2393
02:17:38.000 --> 02:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a mystery, and it's unclear if she did indeed meet.

2394
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<v Speaker 3>Up with anyone. After leaving home.

2395
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<v Speaker 1>On June fourteen, when Erica didn't return and couldn't be reached,

2396
02:17:47.719 --> 02:17:51.920
<v Speaker 1>her family reported her missing. On June seventeen, authorities found

2397
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<v Speaker 1>Erica's car, a black two thousand and six, on to

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<v Speaker 1>a cord, abandoned on Shelton Road north of State Route

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, just east of the Nine Palms area. Both

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02:18:02.120 --> 02:18:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the front and rear windshiels were broken, and the car

2401
02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>appeared to be involved in a sandburm accident which mangled

2402
02:18:08.639 --> 02:18:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the k frame of the car and deployed the airbag.

2403
02:18:12.239 --> 02:18:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Even so, California Highway Patrol Officer Casey Simmons said investigators

2404
02:18:16.959 --> 02:18:20.280
<v Speaker 1>found no evidence on the roadway consistent with the traffic accident.

2405
02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Some of Erica's items were found in the car, but

2406
02:18:23.520 --> 02:18:26.520
<v Speaker 1>there was no sign of her whereabouts. The police stated

2407
02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:29.639
<v Speaker 1>there was no indication of foul play up until the

2408
02:18:29.680 --> 02:18:33.520
<v Speaker 1>car was found. According to Erica's sister in law, Jenna,

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02:18:34.200 --> 02:18:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Erica was very stressed about the pandemic and the quarantine,

2410
02:18:37.040 --> 02:18:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and she was going camping for a few days to

2411
02:18:39.319 --> 02:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of unplug, despite the fact that she was not

2412
02:18:42.159 --> 02:18:46.159
<v Speaker 1>an experienced camper. The most accurate information about Erica's disappearance

2413
02:18:46.200 --> 02:18:49.120
<v Speaker 1>can be found on the Bring Erica Home Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 1>The following is an excerpt from a comment written by

2415
02:18:52.079 --> 02:18:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Erica's mom on that page. There have been many stories

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02:18:55.840 --> 02:18:58.719
<v Speaker 1>of Erica from various podcasts and in the form world,

2417
02:18:58.920 --> 02:19:02.360
<v Speaker 1>which are filled with a lot of opinions, theories, and conjectures.

2418
02:19:03.200 --> 02:19:05.799
<v Speaker 1>The information that they provide almost never comes from the

2419
02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:10.239
<v Speaker 1>police investigators handling Erica's case to verify or corroborate their info.

2420
02:19:11.479 --> 02:19:13.440
<v Speaker 1>We know that Erica was not in a good state

2421
02:19:13.520 --> 02:19:16.159
<v Speaker 1>of mind and decided to take this trip to Joshua

2422
02:19:16.200 --> 02:19:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Tree Park to clear her head. There's been no indication

2423
02:19:20.159 --> 02:19:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of foul play up to winter car was found on

2424
02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Shelton Road, broken down, despite what others may say or think.

2425
02:19:27.600 --> 02:19:31.040
<v Speaker 1>We received six sightings of apparently homeless or transient women

2426
02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:34.319
<v Speaker 1>fitting Erica's description in the High Desert area, but none

2427
02:19:34.360 --> 02:19:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of them turned out to be her. Some of what

2428
02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:40.559
<v Speaker 1>was done to find Erica. There were search teams from

2429
02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the Sheriff's department that continued to search further and further

2430
02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:46.600
<v Speaker 1>out from the location of her car. Doug Billings, an

2431
02:19:46.680 --> 02:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>expert at mapping a cave diver, has extensive knowledge of

2432
02:19:50.040 --> 02:19:53.239
<v Speaker 1>minds in the area. He's done numerous searches with the

2433
02:19:53.280 --> 02:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>help of his friends. Family members, and other groups have

2434
02:19:56.840 --> 02:20:00.440
<v Speaker 1>aided in the searching. Banners and a billboard were placed

2435
02:20:00.479 --> 02:20:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in strategic locations in the Wonder Valley area asking if

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02:20:03.959 --> 02:20:05.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone helped Erica.

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<v Speaker 3>On June sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Erica's aunts have sent out hundreds of flyers to homeless shelters, hospitals,

2439
02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and food banks areas such as Twenty nine Palms, Joshua Tree,

2440
02:20:15.319 --> 02:20:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yucca Valley, Palm Springs, Desert Springs, Indio, Coachella Riverside, Morongo Basin, Ontario,

2441
02:20:24.239 --> 02:20:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, San Diego, Venice Beach, and Moore. Erica's mom

2442
02:20:29.000 --> 02:20:32.719
<v Speaker 1>further states We're continuing to look at offbeat communes like

2443
02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Slab City and Amboy. Both police investigators from San Bernino

2444
02:20:37.479 --> 02:20:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Department and Walnut Creek Police Department are still actively

2445
02:20:41.079 --> 02:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>investigating the case. The case remained active after Erica's disappearance

2446
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:48.959
<v Speaker 1>with no real leads until January of twenty twenty one.

2447
02:20:49.639 --> 02:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>In February of twenty twenty one, Ericin's brother posted to

2448
02:20:53.319 --> 02:20:56.639
<v Speaker 1>the Facebook page saying, as the brother of Erica Lloyd,

2449
02:20:57.079 --> 02:20:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I would like to address the public on behalf of

2450
02:20:59.159 --> 02:21:04.079
<v Speaker 1>our family. On January thirty first, twenty twenty one, human

2451
02:21:04.159 --> 02:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>remains were discovered by hikers in the vicinity of Danby

2452
02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Road and Amboy Road in Wonder Valley, California. It is

2453
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<v Speaker 1>with a heavy heart announce that these remains have been

2454
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:20.040
<v Speaker 1>identified by Sam Bernardino County Sheriff's Department as my sister Erica.

2455
02:21:20.840 --> 02:21:22.680
<v Speaker 1>There is no easy way for me to tell you

2456
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<v Speaker 1>all this, and there's no easy way for any of

2457
02:21:25.280 --> 02:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>us to receive it. My wish is that we can

2458
02:21:28.079 --> 02:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>all lean in a little closer, hold each other up,

2459
02:21:31.399 --> 02:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and remind each other more often that we're here for

2460
02:21:34.159 --> 02:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>one another with open arms and endless love. It's what

2461
02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>she would have wanted. It's the spirit of who she was.

2462
02:21:42.120 --> 02:21:45.360
<v Speaker 1>On May twelfth, twenty twenty one, Erica's family shared another

2463
02:21:45.440 --> 02:21:48.959
<v Speaker 1>post on the Bring Erica Home Facebook page, quoting here,

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<v Speaker 1>the family of Erica Lloyd would like to give an update.

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02:21:52.520 --> 02:21:55.840
<v Speaker 1>The sam Bernardino County s Sheriff's Department Special Investigative Unit

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<v Speaker 1>has notified us they are no longer handling Erica's case.

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<v Speaker 1>After reviewing the extensive investigation done on Erica's disappearance, they

2468
02:22:03.239 --> 02:22:07.479
<v Speaker 1>have not found any indication of foul play. Thus, Erica's

2469
02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>case will be turned back over to the Morongo Basin

2470
02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Station investigators for any remaining follow up and information. From

2471
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<v Speaker 1>everything the investigators learned and everything we found out from

2472
02:22:17.639 --> 02:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>our first trip to California in June to our last

2473
02:22:20.239 --> 02:22:24.479
<v Speaker 1>trip in February, all indications appeared Erica suffered a sudden

2474
02:22:24.520 --> 02:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>mental breakdown starting about a week before she disappeared into

2475
02:22:27.879 --> 02:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the desert. During that last week, Erica had communicated with

2476
02:22:31.680 --> 02:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>various family members, friends, co workers, and some clients. The

2477
02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:38.360
<v Speaker 1>common thread from all of them referring to Erica was

2478
02:22:38.600 --> 02:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>something was off and out of place, but they couldnot

2479
02:22:41.360 --> 02:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>put their finger on it. One co worker was so

2480
02:22:44.159 --> 02:22:47.399
<v Speaker 1>concerned about Erica on June tenth, six days before she

2481
02:22:47.520 --> 02:22:50.639
<v Speaker 1>went missing, that she dropped by Erica's apartment to check

2482
02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>up on her and spent a couple of hours talking

2483
02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to her. It was the following day when Erica took

2484
02:22:55.840 --> 02:22:58.479
<v Speaker 1>off on her road trip. It has been hard to

2485
02:22:58.559 --> 02:23:02.319
<v Speaker 1>understand how Erica, who was a free spirit, hardworking and

2486
02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>an independent loving mom, could suffer a sudden mental psychotic breakdown.

2487
02:23:07.559 --> 02:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Psychosis means losing touch with the reality, is often associated

2488
02:23:11.719 --> 02:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>with various serious mental illnesses. Distress becomes too overwhelming. Anyone

2489
02:23:17.200 --> 02:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>may experience these symptoms, triggering a breakdown. Erica was dealing

2490
02:23:21.680 --> 02:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>with the lockdown, learning to take care of her son

2491
02:23:24.879 --> 02:23:27.360
<v Speaker 1>in the new stay and Place world a, forced to

2492
02:23:27.399 --> 02:23:30.879
<v Speaker 1>shut down of her thriving Bloom Hair studio in Almo, California,

2493
02:23:31.760 --> 02:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>losing personal contact with the clients whose weddings and proms

2494
02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>were canceled, and trying to make some sense to understand

2495
02:23:38.760 --> 02:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>where our society was going. This was overwhelming to her

2496
02:23:42.600 --> 02:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and pushed her over the edge and into a break.

2497
02:23:45.159 --> 02:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Erica was no longer in control and the voices she

2498
02:23:48.520 --> 02:23:52.479
<v Speaker 1>heard had taken over her thoughts. As a family, we

2499
02:23:52.559 --> 02:23:56.319
<v Speaker 1>are heartbroken over losing our Erica. It is difficult to

2500
02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>understand what struggles her mind was going through the last

2501
02:23:59.280 --> 02:24:02.479
<v Speaker 1>week of her life. We know there were possibly missed

2502
02:24:02.520 --> 02:24:05.959
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to stop and help Erica before she slipped away

2503
02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:09.799
<v Speaker 1>and wandered out into the desert. At this point, it's

2504
02:24:09.920 --> 02:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>unknown if any person or persons could have made a

2505
02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:16.360
<v Speaker 1>difference in stopping or helping her. We accept what happened

2506
02:24:16.360 --> 02:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to Erica and know she was in the storm of

2507
02:24:18.719 --> 02:24:22.879
<v Speaker 1>her life. Joshua Treet National Park has a mystical appeal

2508
02:24:23.319 --> 02:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and is said to be located on a powerful energy vortex,

2509
02:24:26.760 --> 02:24:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and Erica was drawn to this place. Unfortunately, as beautiful

2510
02:24:31.440 --> 02:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>as the desert is, the heat is brutal and harsh

2511
02:24:34.280 --> 02:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>during the day and cold at night. We know that

2512
02:24:37.920 --> 02:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>prior and during this time, Erica was seeking the Lord,

2513
02:24:41.280 --> 02:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>looking for peace and happiness in her life. While working

2514
02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:48.479
<v Speaker 1>with the investigators and searchers early on, we knew there

2515
02:24:48.479 --> 02:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>were three main possibilities of what could have happened to Erica.

2516
02:24:52.440 --> 02:24:55.879
<v Speaker 1>All were closely looked at, but sadly, on June sixteenth,

2517
02:24:56.120 --> 02:25:01.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, Erica was running. It was hot, she was scared, dehydrated,

2518
02:25:01.479 --> 02:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and not in touch with the reality. She wandered into

2519
02:25:04.559 --> 02:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>the desert and succumbed to the elements. We know Erica

2520
02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:12.120
<v Speaker 1>is at peace now because of Erica's faith in God.

2521
02:25:12.799 --> 02:25:15.120
<v Speaker 1>He has a bigger plan for her, which gives us comfort.

2522
02:25:15.719 --> 02:25:19.239
<v Speaker 1>This is our hope. The Lord Jesus Christ brought Erica home.

2523
02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>End to Any updates that the family wished to share

2524
02:25:23.840 --> 02:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>in the future will be posted on the Facebook page

2525
02:25:27.280 --> 02:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>titled bring Erica Home.

2526
02:25:34.280 --> 02:25:34.440
<v Speaker 7>Now.

2527
02:25:34.559 --> 02:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>On a lighter note, not everybody that goes missing in

2528
02:25:37.920 --> 02:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree perishes. Here are some amazing true stories of survival.

2529
02:25:45.120 --> 02:25:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Claire Nelson thirty six year old Claire Nelson nearly died

2530
02:25:49.079 --> 02:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>alone in the desert in May of twenty eighteen. Claire,

2531
02:25:52.680 --> 02:25:55.799
<v Speaker 1>originally from New Zealand, was visiting friends who lived near

2532
02:25:55.959 --> 02:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree National Park, where she was to house sit

2533
02:25:58.719 --> 02:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for them while they left vacation. During her stay, Claire

2534
02:26:03.040 --> 02:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>planned on adventuring through the desert and connecting with nature.

2535
02:26:07.000 --> 02:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Clara was experiencing the outdoors, and she was a fiercely

2536
02:26:09.719 --> 02:26:13.239
<v Speaker 1>independent person, so much so that she had been pushing

2537
02:26:13.280 --> 02:26:17.239
<v Speaker 1>people away for some time. But she loved exploring and

2538
02:26:17.399 --> 02:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>also sharing her travel experiences online. She was a freelance

2539
02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:24.360
<v Speaker 1>travel writer at the time of the Joshua Tree visit

2540
02:26:24.559 --> 02:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that changed her life forever. After her friends left for

2541
02:26:28.840 --> 02:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>their journey to Scotland, Claire was on to her own adventures.

2542
02:26:33.520 --> 02:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>She left for a day hike to Joshua Tree, plaiting

2543
02:26:36.200 --> 02:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to explore the Lost Bombs Oasis trail. However, Claire hadn't

2544
02:26:41.239 --> 02:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>told anybody specifically where she was going, only that she

2545
02:26:45.040 --> 02:26:49.559
<v Speaker 1>planned on exploring inside Joshua Tree. It started out as

2546
02:26:49.600 --> 02:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a day like any other. Claire packed the day bag

2547
02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:55.079
<v Speaker 1>with a spare T shirt, several liters of water, and

2548
02:26:55.159 --> 02:26:58.239
<v Speaker 1>a meager lunch a hard boiled egg, a bagel, and

2549
02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a chocolate bar. Fussel carried other items that were usually

2550
02:27:02.639 --> 02:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>not essential for just a few hours outdoors but later

2551
02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>proved life saving, a plastic bag, a bandanna, a park

2552
02:27:10.719 --> 02:27:15.239
<v Speaker 1>map and sunscreen. With her daypacking place, Claire drove to

2553
02:27:15.360 --> 02:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree and parked. It was hot, but Claire was

2554
02:27:18.559 --> 02:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>confident and enjoying herself in the beauty of the desert.

2555
02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:25.079
<v Speaker 1>She was waised into her heike when she unknowingly wandered

2556
02:27:25.120 --> 02:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>off the designated trail and began following a dry river bed,

2557
02:27:28.879 --> 02:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and there was a boulder she had to climb on

2558
02:27:30.479 --> 02:27:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the path.

2559
02:27:30.879 --> 02:27:31.600
<v Speaker 3>She was traveling.

2560
02:27:32.680 --> 02:27:36.360
<v Speaker 1>She climbed up, then began testing her footing. Everything seemed

2561
02:27:36.399 --> 02:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>okay until her foot started slipping and she became unsteady.

2562
02:27:40.079 --> 02:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>She lost her balance completely and went crashing over twenty

2563
02:27:44.120 --> 02:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>six feet down into a clearing not much bigger than

2564
02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>she was, shattering her pelvis in the process. The fall

2565
02:27:51.120 --> 02:27:53.319
<v Speaker 1>knocked the breath out of her, and the pain was

2566
02:27:53.399 --> 02:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>excruciating and unrelenting. Claire recalled, I'd landed amongst these large boulders,

2567
02:27:59.559 --> 02:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't move. I couldn't sit up, I couldn't

2568
02:28:03.079 --> 02:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>stand up. It was indescribably painful. Unable to move, Claire

2569
02:28:08.399 --> 02:28:10.959
<v Speaker 1>immediately tried using her cell phone to call for help,

2570
02:28:11.399 --> 02:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>but she had no service. The predicament she was in

2571
02:28:15.440 --> 02:28:19.120
<v Speaker 1>was life threatening. Indeed, she was all alone in the

2572
02:28:19.159 --> 02:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>desert with a shattered pelvis, barely enough water for a

2573
02:28:22.440 --> 02:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>day and a half, and contending with the California desert heat,

2574
02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>as well as unusually high numbers of coyote, rattlesnakes.

2575
02:28:29.600 --> 02:28:30.440
<v Speaker 3>And other dangers.

2576
02:28:31.520 --> 02:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt more vulnerable than I could ever have imagined

2577
02:28:34.559 --> 02:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>being in my life, Claire said of the ordeal. She

2578
02:28:37.760 --> 02:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>immediately began recording videos of herself messages to friends and family,

2579
02:28:42.559 --> 02:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>as well as documentation of her situation. Claire occasionally tried

2580
02:28:47.000 --> 02:28:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to move, especially to find shade, but when she tried,

2581
02:28:50.319 --> 02:28:53.719
<v Speaker 1>there was a crunching, clicking sound coming from her pelvic region,

2582
02:28:54.239 --> 02:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>along with searing, my numbing pain. She couldn't budge to

2583
02:29:00.280 --> 02:29:02.799
<v Speaker 1>admit it, but this hike was not the first time

2584
02:29:03.040 --> 02:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>she'd left for an adventure without telling someone of her plans.

2585
02:29:06.920 --> 02:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I know better, I know the rules.

2586
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Always tell someone where you're going, said Claire, who wrote

2587
02:29:13.079 --> 02:29:16.159
<v Speaker 1>about her experience in her book Things I Learned From Falling.

2588
02:29:16.879 --> 02:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>The Reality of her situation set in and Claire really

2589
02:29:19.639 --> 02:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to spend the night alone on the desert floor,

2590
02:29:22.440 --> 02:29:25.799
<v Speaker 1>but she had no other option. Nobody knew to check

2591
02:29:25.879 --> 02:29:27.399
<v Speaker 1>in with her or to expect her back at a

2592
02:29:27.479 --> 02:29:30.879
<v Speaker 1>certain time. The fact that she might die out there

2593
02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:34.799
<v Speaker 1>alone was not lost on Claire. She kept recording videos,

2594
02:29:34.920 --> 02:29:37.479
<v Speaker 1>then turning her phone and digital camera off to conserve

2595
02:29:37.559 --> 02:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the battery life. She made herself eat the hard boiled

2596
02:29:40.719 --> 02:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>eggs since it would go bad anyway, and she knew

2597
02:29:43.680 --> 02:29:45.639
<v Speaker 1>she needed the protein if she was going to survive

2598
02:29:45.799 --> 02:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this tragedy. Her determination and will live kicked in however,

2599
02:29:50.559 --> 02:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and Claire prepared herself for the nighttime. After nightfall, there

2600
02:29:55.040 --> 02:29:57.559
<v Speaker 1>were bats flying around, and Claire hoped they weren't the

2601
02:29:57.600 --> 02:30:01.719
<v Speaker 1>kind that liked to bite people. Imagination went wild, and

2602
02:30:01.879 --> 02:30:04.159
<v Speaker 1>she was sure at times that she was seeing snakes

2603
02:30:04.239 --> 02:30:07.399
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the rocks, though in reality snakes rarely

2604
02:30:07.440 --> 02:30:12.399
<v Speaker 1>come out at night. Thankfully, she survived until morning one

2605
02:30:12.559 --> 02:30:16.319
<v Speaker 1>night in the desert alone and injured. Down only two

2606
02:30:16.360 --> 02:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>more to go, Claire tried her best to protect herself

2607
02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>from the elements. She used a stick to rub sunscreen

2608
02:30:23.280 --> 02:30:26.959
<v Speaker 1>on her legs. Sun is unforgiving during the desert summers

2609
02:30:26.959 --> 02:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and can quickly do significant damage to her skin as

2610
02:30:29.959 --> 02:30:33.879
<v Speaker 1>well as dehydrate it's even faster. She rationed what was

2611
02:30:33.959 --> 02:30:35.879
<v Speaker 1>left for her food and water as long as she could,

2612
02:30:36.440 --> 02:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>but neither it lasted very long. The lack of water

2613
02:30:40.159 --> 02:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>grew unbearable. Dehydration is a god awful business, Claire wrote

2614
02:30:44.559 --> 02:30:47.959
<v Speaker 1>in her book. It starts in the mouth. The initial

2615
02:30:48.040 --> 02:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>pang of craving quite subtle and easy to ignore, but

2616
02:30:51.280 --> 02:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the signals get more insistent over time. Your tongue becomes

2617
02:30:55.280 --> 02:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>increasingly dry and scratchy, thickening like a woolen mitten sticking again,

2618
02:31:00.159 --> 02:31:03.399
<v Speaker 1>the size of your mouth like velcrow. From there, you

2619
02:31:03.520 --> 02:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>feel it in your head. A slowly increasing pressure throbs

2620
02:31:07.479 --> 02:31:10.319
<v Speaker 1>inside your skull, as if her brain is shrinking in

2621
02:31:10.479 --> 02:31:14.879
<v Speaker 1>on itself, withering like a piece of dried fruit. She

2622
02:31:15.040 --> 02:31:19.639
<v Speaker 1>fantasized about diet coke and other cold refreshments, even willing

2623
02:31:19.719 --> 02:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>them to be real. Claire had no choice. Once her

2624
02:31:23.520 --> 02:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>water ran out, She even urinated in a bottle and

2625
02:31:26.520 --> 02:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>drank it for hydration.

2626
02:31:28.360 --> 02:31:31.040
<v Speaker 3>While unpleasant, at least it helped keep her alive.

2627
02:31:32.079 --> 02:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>She used the park map, the bandana, and the plastic

2628
02:31:34.680 --> 02:31:38.079
<v Speaker 1>bag which she attached to a stick to cover herself

2629
02:31:38.120 --> 02:31:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and block out the sun. Claire continued applying sunscreen, recycling

2630
02:31:43.280 --> 02:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>her urine, and making videos, but there was nothing else

2631
02:31:46.520 --> 02:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>she could do. She was trapped in the middle of

2632
02:31:49.200 --> 02:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the desert, with no way of knowing whether anyone was

2633
02:31:52.159 --> 02:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>searching for She battled the scorching heat on the second

2634
02:31:56.760 --> 02:32:00.799
<v Speaker 1>day and dreaded nightfall. She didn't want spent another night

2635
02:32:00.879 --> 02:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>alone in the desert. Naturally, she hadn't slept, and delirium

2636
02:32:05.479 --> 02:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was setting in. She made it through the night with

2637
02:32:08.959 --> 02:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>sheer willpower and determination. Of the third day, Claire's mind

2638
02:32:13.639 --> 02:32:17.959
<v Speaker 1>was really playing tricks on her sought. Sheard helicopters and ambulances,

2639
02:32:18.360 --> 02:32:20.959
<v Speaker 1>but it was all in her head. She could see

2640
02:32:21.120 --> 02:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>birds of prey circling overhead, waiting for her to die

2641
02:32:24.319 --> 02:32:28.159
<v Speaker 1>so they could grab an easy meal. However, after a

2642
02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>couple of days of social media silence, the friends Claire

2643
02:32:31.639 --> 02:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was house sitting for grew concern. It wasn't like her

2644
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:38.239
<v Speaker 1>not to post, especially when she was somewhere beautiful like

2645
02:32:38.360 --> 02:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree. They contacted friends from the area and had

2646
02:32:42.200 --> 02:32:45.399
<v Speaker 1>them go to the house to check for Claire. When

2647
02:32:45.440 --> 02:32:47.559
<v Speaker 1>they didn't see her car or find her at the home,

2648
02:32:47.959 --> 02:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Claire was reported missing. Joshua Treat National Park officials found

2649
02:32:52.959 --> 02:32:55.159
<v Speaker 1>her car, and there were at least two days of

2650
02:32:55.280 --> 02:32:57.479
<v Speaker 1>chalk marks, which were used to tell whether or not

2651
02:32:57.520 --> 02:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a vehicle has been moved. It was clear that Claire

2652
02:33:00.680 --> 02:33:02.639
<v Speaker 1>had left the car and not come back for quite

2653
02:33:02.719 --> 02:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>some time. The search and rescue mission was launched. The

2654
02:33:05.879 --> 02:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>searchers were starting where her car was found and working outwards.

2655
02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>They made several rounds in a helicopter near where Claire

2656
02:33:12.360 --> 02:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>had fallen, but they didn't find her at first. After all,

2657
02:33:16.200 --> 02:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>she was trapped between large boulders where it was difficult

2658
02:33:18.840 --> 02:33:22.479
<v Speaker 1>to see. They called out over the helicopter's PA system,

2659
02:33:23.079 --> 02:33:25.719
<v Speaker 1>we are looking for a missing hiker. If you can

2660
02:33:25.799 --> 02:33:29.399
<v Speaker 1>hear us, please make movement. The search crew didn't know it,

2661
02:33:29.479 --> 02:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but Claire was screaming for help as she heard the

2662
02:33:31.600 --> 02:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>helicopter and.

2663
02:33:32.719 --> 02:33:33.959
<v Speaker 3>It was real this time.

2664
02:33:34.840 --> 02:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>She tied the plastic bag on the end of her

2665
02:33:36.760 --> 02:33:39.639
<v Speaker 1>stick with her hair tie and began waving it frantically.

2666
02:33:41.239 --> 02:33:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until their last and final sweep of the

2667
02:33:43.639 --> 02:33:47.719
<v Speaker 1>area that they saw tiny and obscure a plastic grocery

2668
02:33:47.760 --> 02:33:51.159
<v Speaker 1>bag waving back and forth. They called out that they

2669
02:33:51.200 --> 02:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>could see her and told her that help was on

2670
02:33:53.319 --> 02:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the way. Due to the terrain, the helicopter could land

2671
02:33:56.799 --> 02:33:59.239
<v Speaker 1>in the area, so rescuers had to hike into where

2672
02:33:59.280 --> 02:34:02.479
<v Speaker 1>she was at the same Claire knew at that point

2673
02:34:02.559 --> 02:34:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that she was going to be okay. After three nights

2674
02:34:05.760 --> 02:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and four days alone in the desert, Claire was rushed

2675
02:34:08.600 --> 02:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>to a hospital where she received emergency surgery. Thankfully, she

2676
02:34:13.559 --> 02:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>made it through okay and spent the next several months recuperating.

2677
02:34:17.680 --> 02:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>She had to do extensive rehabilitation and spend some time

2678
02:34:20.559 --> 02:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>in a wheelchair before she was able to learn to

2679
02:34:22.879 --> 02:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>walk again. During her time in that awful situation, Claire

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02:34:27.799 --> 02:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>realized that she had been pushing people away, and although

2681
02:34:30.920 --> 02:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>she was connecting with others in social media, there was

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02:34:34.040 --> 02:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a lack of true human connection in her life. She

2683
02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>made the decision that if she lived through this ordeal,

2684
02:34:40.600 --> 02:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>she was going to do better for herself and for others.

2685
02:34:45.239 --> 02:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Claire Triumphully returned to Joshua Tree a year later with

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02:34:48.200 --> 02:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>friends and finally finished the hike she had started that

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02:34:51.559 --> 02:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>almost ended her life. Today, Claire's thankful to be alive,

2688
02:34:56.959 --> 02:34:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and she vowed to never forget what happened to her

2689
02:34:59.719 --> 02:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and to use it as motivation. Her book, Things I

2690
02:35:03.399 --> 02:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Learned from Falling can be found on Amazon. Next up

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<v Speaker 1>in her survivor's Holly Jocum, Thirty two year old Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Jocum was planning a camping trip on December twenty seventh,

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02:35:17.920 --> 02:35:22.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, to Big Bear Campground in California. She packed

2694
02:35:22.319 --> 02:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>her things and loaded her two dogs into RV as

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02:35:26.280 --> 02:35:28.559
<v Speaker 1>she drove to Big Bear. She was excited for the trip,

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02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately when she arrived, she found the camp site

2697
02:35:32.000 --> 02:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>was closed. Around four forty five PM that day, she

2698
02:35:36.319 --> 02:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>contacted family and told them about a change of plans.

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02:35:39.639 --> 02:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>She was going to drive an hour and fifteen minutes

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02:35:41.559 --> 02:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>away and camp in the desert at Joshua Tree instead,

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02:35:44.680 --> 02:35:47.479
<v Speaker 1>and said she'd call when she arrived. But by seven

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02:35:47.479 --> 02:35:51.399
<v Speaker 1>point thirty that evening, Holly's phone was off or otherwise unreachable,

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02:35:51.559 --> 02:35:55.479
<v Speaker 1>and her family hadn't heard from her. They were rightfully concerned.

2704
02:35:55.520 --> 02:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>In contact to the authorities, they filed a missing person

2705
02:36:00.399 --> 02:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and began reaching out on social media for help locating Holly.

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02:36:05.280 --> 02:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Her sister Laurie made a post asking for anyone who

2707
02:36:08.079 --> 02:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>might have seen Holly to please come forward. Holly had

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02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>randomly selected the camp site and Joshua Treat from her phone.

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02:36:16.239 --> 02:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Although she was an experienced camper, the site she chose

2710
02:36:19.520 --> 02:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>was unfamiliar to her. On the way to the site,

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02:36:22.479 --> 02:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the terrain had become difficult, and she decided to camp

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02:36:25.079 --> 02:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>out in a secluded area until the next day. The

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02:36:28.559 --> 02:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>night came and went, and the next morning Holly woke

2714
02:36:31.680 --> 02:36:33.879
<v Speaker 1>to find two feet of snow had fallen through the night.

2715
02:36:34.920 --> 02:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Holly wrote about the ordeal. By Tuesday, there was nearly

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02:36:38.520 --> 02:36:41.639
<v Speaker 1>two feet of very fine fresh powder and I was stuck.

2717
02:36:42.760 --> 02:36:45.159
<v Speaker 1>There was also no cell service where she had parked,

2718
02:36:45.360 --> 02:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>so she and her two dogs were truly out there alone.

2719
02:36:49.159 --> 02:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>For three days, Holly and the dogs camped out waiting

2720
02:36:52.280 --> 02:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>for the snow to melt, but that never happened. Holly

2721
02:36:55.719 --> 02:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>decided she had to do something. Friday morning, she planned

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02:36:59.360 --> 02:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>on hiking back down the mountain, at least until she

2723
02:37:01.959 --> 02:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>had cell service. The snow was too deep for dogs,

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02:37:05.319 --> 02:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so she loaded them into two separate backpacks and began

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02:37:08.319 --> 02:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the six mile hike back down. Eventually, she reached a

2726
02:37:11.680 --> 02:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>place that had phone service, and she called in her

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02:37:13.719 --> 02:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>location to her mom and the authorities. Search teams have

2728
02:37:17.239 --> 02:37:19.639
<v Speaker 1>been looking for and news of her safety was caused

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02:37:19.680 --> 02:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>for celebration. Holly met the sheriff at the bottom of

2730
02:37:22.840 --> 02:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the mountain, who drove her to Cabazon, where she met

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02:37:25.639 --> 02:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>with her mother. Thankfully, neither Holly nor her dogs were

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02:37:29.280 --> 02:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>harmed during their time stuck on the mountain, and they

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02:37:31.799 --> 02:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>had a happy ending, unlike so many others.

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02:37:34.280 --> 02:37:34.959
<v Speaker 3>Who go missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Holly wrote, I'm so thankful for everyone who was involved

2736
02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>in searching for me, for everyone who shared the missing

2737
02:37:41.840 --> 02:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>person's post, and mostly for my family who tried with

2738
02:37:45.719 --> 02:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>every ounce they had to bring me back. The experiences

2739
02:37:48.959 --> 02:37:51.159
<v Speaker 1>sure to remind Holly as well as the rest of us,

2740
02:37:51.600 --> 02:37:54.639
<v Speaker 1>of the dangers of the wilderness and just how quickly

2741
02:37:54.799 --> 02:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>things can change when you're at the mercy of Mother Nature.

2742
02:37:58.360 --> 02:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>At our last tailor of survival. Robert Ringo, sixty seven

2743
02:38:02.959 --> 02:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>year old Robert Ringo was on a day hike one

2744
02:38:05.200 --> 02:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Thursday in June of twenty twenty near Quayle Mountain in

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02:38:08.479 --> 02:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree National Park when tragedy struck. Robert had gotten

2746
02:38:12.959 --> 02:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>ready that morning with nothing out of the ordinary. He

2747
02:38:15.719 --> 02:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>drove to Joshua Tree and once parked, shared his location

2748
02:38:18.799 --> 02:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>with his son, something he always did. He brought along

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02:38:22.639 --> 02:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>two liters of water for the hike, but not much

2750
02:38:25.159 --> 02:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>more in the way of supplies. The temperatures from the

2751
02:38:28.479 --> 02:38:32.959
<v Speaker 1>high nineties the desert heat was sweltering. Robert is an

2752
02:38:32.959 --> 02:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>avid hiker and used to these conditions, so he wasn't worried,

2753
02:38:36.680 --> 02:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>especially since he was only planning a short hike. He

2754
02:38:39.920 --> 02:38:42.959
<v Speaker 1>felt good starting out on his walk put aways into

2755
02:38:43.000 --> 02:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the hike while admiring the views and enjoying the outdoors,

2756
02:38:46.079 --> 02:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Robert somehow lost his footing and fell to the ground,

2757
02:38:49.000 --> 02:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>breaking his left Femur. The area he was in had

2758
02:38:52.120 --> 02:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>no cell service, so he was stranded. After his fall,

2759
02:38:56.079 --> 02:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I started trying to at least turn over, and when

2760
02:38:58.399 --> 02:39:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I did, he said, it was just unbelievable pain. Robert

2761
02:39:02.719 --> 02:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>began recording himself since he had no way of signaling

2762
02:39:05.319 --> 02:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for help. His cries for help can be heard in

2763
02:39:07.920 --> 02:39:08.959
<v Speaker 1>the videos shared.

2764
02:39:08.760 --> 02:39:09.479
<v Speaker 3>With news media.

2765
02:39:10.799 --> 02:39:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Robert knew his two leaders of water wouldn't last for long.

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02:39:14.040 --> 02:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>He tried to at least get himself onto his back

2767
02:39:16.200 --> 02:39:20.079
<v Speaker 1>and finally managed after some time lying there. He knew

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02:39:20.079 --> 02:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he had to eat something to keep his energy up.

2769
02:39:22.639 --> 02:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I somehow scooted it up this place, ate some juniper

2770
02:39:25.440 --> 02:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>berries and saw what I thought might be flowers, but

2771
02:39:28.719 --> 02:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>they were all dry, so I wasn't going to eat them,

2772
02:39:30.959 --> 02:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>he said. He continued recording videos and trying to conserve water.

2773
02:39:35.799 --> 02:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time I've experienced no saliva, he

2774
02:39:38.520 --> 02:39:41.079
<v Speaker 1>said in one of the videos he took. He knew

2775
02:39:41.079 --> 02:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>if he could just hold on long enough, someone would

2776
02:39:43.319 --> 02:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>be looking for him. He mentions having a confidence and

2777
02:39:46.680 --> 02:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a faith that he was going to survive. The Next day, Friday,

2778
02:39:50.719 --> 02:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Robert's son Ryan alerted officials of his father's missing status.

2779
02:39:55.319 --> 02:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>He saw on his phone that his dad's last known

2780
02:39:57.399 --> 02:40:01.479
<v Speaker 1>location was Joshua Tree. The search and rescue efforts began

2781
02:40:01.559 --> 02:40:04.280
<v Speaker 1>searching in earnest for Robert. Knowing the summer heat is

2782
02:40:04.399 --> 02:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>dangerous to be in with only limited water supply, time

2783
02:40:07.840 --> 02:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>was of the essence. Rescue teams searched for hours, but

2784
02:40:11.440 --> 02:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to no avail. It wasn't until Saturday morning, nearly two

2785
02:40:15.280 --> 02:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>days after Robert had taken his fall, that he finally

2786
02:40:18.120 --> 02:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>heard a rescue copter. The Joshua treat Search and Rescue

2787
02:40:21.920 --> 02:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>team retrieved Robert and brought him to the Desert Regional

2788
02:40:24.879 --> 02:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Medical Center. Robert had emergency surgery on his leg and

2789
02:40:29.200 --> 02:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>later made a full recovery. In closing things, like we've

2790
02:40:34.440 --> 02:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>covered in this video, they continue to happen daily, with

2791
02:40:37.399 --> 02:40:40.879
<v Speaker 1>their national parks being hotspots for all manner strange occurrences,

2792
02:40:41.760 --> 02:40:44.159
<v Speaker 1>some of them natural, some of them bordering on the

2793
02:40:44.239 --> 02:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>supernatural and beyond. While there could be any number of

2794
02:40:47.959 --> 02:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>things or a combination of things to blame for these cases,

2795
02:40:51.040 --> 02:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>one thing is certain. We can never be sure something

2796
02:40:54.200 --> 02:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>won't happen to us. It's recommended that everyone who plans

2797
02:40:58.079 --> 02:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>on being with international parks or out of the wilderness.

2798
02:41:00.639 --> 02:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>In general, carry a personal locator beacon at all times.

2799
02:41:04.719 --> 02:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>The speaking transmits a the stress signal with its location

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02:41:07.959 --> 02:41:11.399
<v Speaker 1>when activated. So what do you think is happening in

2801
02:41:11.520 --> 02:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree? Let us know in the comments section, and

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02:41:16.360 --> 02:41:19.520
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02:41:19.559 --> 02:41:22.280
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02:41:22.360 --> 02:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>don't miss out on any new content or case updates.

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02:41:25.799 --> 02:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to your comments, but ask that you

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02:41:27.760 --> 02:41:32.399
<v Speaker 1>please keep them friendly and respectful. Until next time. Take

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02:41:32.440 --> 02:41:34.959
<v Speaker 1>care of yourselves and each other, and I'll see you

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02:41:35.079 --> 02:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just a little farther on down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll talk to you next time.
