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have some thoughts on. That is Rider Lee from the

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Speaker 5: What's up on? Good to see your brother? Things? For

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having me on? This One's a This one's a deep one, dude.

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We can go so deep on this.

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Speaker 3: You go so so so dude. Before we get started,

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where can people find you? Where can people find the

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documentary more than anything? And where can they go to

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find to listen to you and to watch the documentary.

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and all podcast platforms on rock Fane, And if you

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find me on Twitter at Raised by Giants eight and

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on Instagram at Raised by Giants pod. And if you

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would like to watch the movie that we're going to

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be talking about here today is a Clockwork Shining and

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it is on Amazon Prime that is available in the

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United States and in the UK, But if you can't

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get it in your country, try Apple tv Plus. It

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is also on there. And if you can't get it

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on on Apple tv Plus, kind of out of luck

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until we get a worldwide distribution. But yeah, I know

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that you can. You'll be able to see it on

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Amazon Prime. But as I said, if not, we'll be

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getting it out to everyone worldwide so everyone can enjoy

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Speaker 3: Excellent documentary by the way, it was very interesting and

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Kubrick is one of these guys right that's at the

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center of a lot of conspiracies. Was he hiding a

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lot of stuff in his movies. Why weren't the extended

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versions ever released? Did he film the moon Landing? Et cetera,

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et cetera. Right, but I have one question, bro, because right,

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I'm a skeptic before anything else. But how much of

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it do you think is attributing meaning to something that

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maybe wasn't meant to have a meaning, Because again, in

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this conspiracy realm, everything is a conspiracy. And in my opinion,

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if he was truly trying to take down this cabal

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which he was producing. Therefore, they wouldn't let him put

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exposing something, You get what I'm saying, Like, how much that's.

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that there was solid evidence to what our theory is

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actually about in the movie. And there turns out that

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there is a lot of evidence. Now, Kubrick love to

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on purpose, And that's the deal. With a lot of

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one has ever been able to explain why are these

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continuity arrs there? Because Kubrick is a master filmmaker. He's

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a perfectionist. He gets everything down to really like a

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movie as the movie is being filmed. And if you're

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of mysteries to Cubriic, and The Shining

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that just doesn't add up. And there's been so many

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theories surrounding what The Shining is really about, from you know,

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the faking of the moon landing, Native American genocide, the Holocaust,

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like it just goes on and on on and on

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and on. But this is something that is new. It

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is my theory. It is what I have put together.

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and I brought all this stuff together and it has

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been an amazing experienced. Did you like it? Did you

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I enjoyed it. And again, being being from somebody

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the Space Odyssey movies. I think there's one or two

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the Clockwork Orange and the Eyes Wide Shut, all those movies.

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like the sort of mastermind. But I believe I've heard

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one guy talk about him not being you know, not

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hiding things in his movies and something or other. I

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forgot who did an interview with him. It was a

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while ago that I heard him. But I think it

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was really well done and I enjoyed it. I mean,

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people should really check it out. I think will be

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Speaker 5: And yeah, let's play the trailer.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pull it up and then you make

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Speaker 6: Hallucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric shocks to the brain some of

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the methods used in secret CIA mind control experiments.

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Speaker 5: There are many theories honest to what the shining is

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really about from the faking of the moon landing to

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Native American genocide and the Holocaust.

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he probably has really deep connections into the intelligence world.

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be understood by someone coming along later on. Who knows

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Speaker 5: We believe that there's something even more sinister lurking beneath

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Speaker 7: So Lookout Mountain Hotel looked a lot like the Overlook Hotels.

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Speaker 9: You realize there's no such thing as coincidences.

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Speaker 5: As Lookout Mountain studios ran by the Air Force.

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United States of the.

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Speaker 3: Army Navan Air Force.

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Speaker 9: Its prospects reportedly that what more films might at Lookout

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Speaker 7: We really don't know if these famous film directors were

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being recruited for what project or whatever was it the

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Moon Landing.

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Speaker 5: The CIA's MK Ultra programs were admitted to the public

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in nineteen five, years before the release of The Shining.

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Speaker 1: These experiments were done without the informed consent of the patients.

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Speaker 4: Me that MK Ultra is likely being applied.

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Speaker 10: My mk ultra mind control experience, I was taken to

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various military, NASA and DARPA installations for sophisticated mind control programming.

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Speaker 7: But people don't realize is that many of the people

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Speaker 5: This is actually the.

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Speaker 7: Smoking gun proving that Kubrick was working with the government.

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Speaker 10: I said, I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 9: Brains, putting little symbolic cryptic clues and Easter eggs attaining

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to the fact they still do it.

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story of like how they found the files, right they

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whole project paper Clip and everything, where when they came

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over they were kind of sort of doing the same

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thing of like human experimentation and wanting to kind of

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sort of it if if we want to believe the

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stuff that people say about that, because you you know,

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you can go down a whole another rabbit hole of that.

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It's like, was all that even true? That they were

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experimenting on all these people and doing all these horrific things.

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it's right along that realm of things that they are

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trying to find a sixth sense on somebody right, probably

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doing entreprenation or something in their skull and all these

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crazy things. So I don't know, dude, why don't you

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lead the way and I'll ask you questions along the

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way because then you told me how to presentation they

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wanted to show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we do know that mk ultra they were

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trying to There was at least five mk ultra subprojects

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out of the one hundred and forty nine that we

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know about, but supposedly there was another two hundred subprojects

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that the documents were destroyed on, but we only know

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about one hundred and forty nine, and there was at

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least five of sub projects that were dedicated to unlocking

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psychic abilities within the victim. So that is a fact

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and also a fact that doctor Hugh and Cameron in Canada,

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like a lot of the people that he did experimentations on,

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which was the psychic driving. He's the one that basically

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coined that term and started doing that type of mk

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ultra mind control was you know, psychic driving, where he

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would just pound a phrase or a thought or an

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idea just repetitiously into these people's heads to control their

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behavior or influence them in a certain way. And we

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also get into that, you know, during the film. And

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then you also have some of the first mk ultra

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experiments which was done on army personnel, volunteer army personnel.

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Canada by doctor Human Cameron was one hundred real because

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a lot of those people that went through that ended

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up suing the Canadian government for doing those experiments on that.

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and they would use this drug called b Z which

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BZ is one hundred times more powerful than LSD, and

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it would make the volunteers for this army program basically

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go out of their mind for weeks at a time,

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you know, military people out in the field and then

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they would just have this these giant containers of b

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Z and then they would just let the BZ loose

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and like a mist like fog thing that would hit

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all of the soldiers all at once, and then they

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would just completely loose function of like all their motor

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skills and like go out of their mind. And then

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they would go out into the field and grab them

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and drag them back to the facility and have them

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answer all these weird questions while they're tripping balls on

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substances one hundred times more powerful than LSD. We know

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for a fact that those experiments were real, and we

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also know that they were subleasing and subcontracting out programs

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to entire hospital wings of certain hospitals in Washington, d C.

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Where they would run these experiments on people. They were

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doing them to prisoners, they were doing them to all

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kinds of people, and we know that for a fact

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because these people have actually been through it. There's a

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really good show on HBO that dives into some of

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the first you know, drug experiments on the army. Now

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that program necessarily wasn't a mind control operation, but it

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was a test on drugs, and these people did not

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know that they were what they were, you know, what

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kind of substances that they were being given. They were

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sold do you want to volunteer for this program? They

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would come into the facility, they would put this mask

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over their face and they would just put in this

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aerosol gas into them. They didn't know what it was

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going to do to them. They weren't briefed on what

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was going to happen to them, and then they would

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just be out of their mind for weeks at a time.

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they tried to gaslight them and make it seem like

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they weren't a part of these programs. So therefore they

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couldn't get any VA medical assistance from the Veterans Hospital

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because they weren't providing them proof that they even went

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through this army program. So we do know that these

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majority of these ferments were now the people that claim

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to have been a part of them, that's a whole

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other story. You know, there's you got the whole secret

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space program nonsense garbage people, and that they were all

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mk ultrade And then they went into a time travel

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Pegasu's program and then fought aliens in space for twenty years.

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And then adrig rees back to the very point that

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they're taking this whole garbage nonsense. But it starts out with.

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Speaker 3: Is it could it be possible though, that they were

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put in in a in a state of mind that

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to them.

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Speaker 5: That was hyperbolic time chamber like in Dragon ball.

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Speaker 3: Z No no no, I mean the memories, like the

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the the act of Maybe perhaps they weren't actually there physically,

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but for example, if you read the the Hell's this

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Guy's name? The How to Create an Undetectable mind control

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slave the damn I forgot the dude's name anyways, that

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book where he talks about how even uh Walter Bossey

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was talking about how some of the alien abduction stuff

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is like implanted memories. So maybe they didn't actually encounter aliens,

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but maybe the memory or they were thought that they

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you know, thought to believe or made believe that they

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encountered these extraterrestrial entities that were probing them and doing

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all this stuff. But it was actually the government right

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doing whatever they do and then traumatizing them and making

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them like, hey, if you make it as crazy as possible.

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No one's ever going to believe you, right, And that's

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one of the things I learned from reading man, what

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the hell is this guy's name? How to create an undetectable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 3: I think for the springmyer, my bad.

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Speaker 5: I always try first spring Well. I think that it

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may be because we know that the military uses video games.

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We show that in our documentary, and some of that

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footage is really old footage. So it's a high possibility

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that that type of technology has gotten highly advanced to

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the point that if you're drugged and then you're put

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into this simulation type of reality, that you would think

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that that simulation reality was real when it wasn't. That's

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a high possibility. And another possibility is that what these people,

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what a few people have experienced that claim to be

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a part of these SSP programs, is that they were

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a part of a program. But it had nothing to

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do with space and really nothing to do with the government.

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It was a behavioral teen behavioral health camp. Because thousands

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of kids have been put through these teen schools, like

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these behavioral health teen schools for troubled teens, thousands of

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people and there's still a lot of them to this

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very day, and how they get them, especially back ten

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fifteen years ago, they would a black van would pull

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up to their house. This all has to do with

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their parents. So their parents think that they're a very

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unruly kid, that they're getting into all this trouble and

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that they're possibly maybe doing drugs. A lot of them aren't,

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they're just being regular teenagers. But their parents think that

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they're going down a wrong path. So they call up

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this school and people show up in a black suv.

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They're in suits, and they abduct them in the middle

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of the night out of their bed and handcuff them

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and throw them into a back of an suv and

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drive off and take them to one of these schools.

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When these behavioral health modification schools where they're normally there

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until they're eighteen years old or until they've graduated the program,

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and then they get some sort of certificate which is

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like supposedly a degree. But all of these people that

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have been through a lot of these programs, they found

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out that their degree wasn't even real. It was a

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fake degree. It's a huge scam. It's a giant scam.

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And then the gaslight the parents there's a really good

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show about this on Netflix called The Programs Cults, Kidnapping

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and Fuck what is the name of it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they know which one you're talking about. A lot

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of celebrities went to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that was a different one. The one that

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the documentary is on is in upstate New York at

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a place that's been shut down. Was called Ivy Ridge.

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But there's several of them. There's another documentary that's called

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Hell Camp that talks about this thing with this in Utah.

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It's like a freaking a hiking teen behavioral modification thing

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where you go out for an entire summer for three

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months and you just hike in the wilderness of Utah.

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And then there's another one. It's called Provo Canyon and

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uh pam uh what's her name? Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton

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went through one of these programs where she was abducted

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in the middle of the night, taken to the taken

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to Provo Canyon Behavioral Modification school. And what's interesting is

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in that programs the program Cults, con cons and Kidnapping

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is the name of it. Colts, cons and Kidnapping they

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talk about which you know, relating the Stanley Kubrick that

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they would be woken up every morning and this will

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play through the system to the beginning opening of two

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thousand and one A Space Odyssey, the music to two

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thousand and one A Space Odyssey. What, Yeah, at these

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behavioral modification schools that these kids would go to. So

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that's a connection to you know, Cubic and and and

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the documentary and there's there's so many and it's possible

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that these people are mistaken that they thought that this

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was like some kind of like special school, because we

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do know that trauma is the basis of mind control,

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and you have to break someone's psyche in order to

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implant new ideas. And that's exactly like what these kids

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were talking about that was at this Ivy Ridge school,

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Like you would be broken down, and that's what this

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is called. The program is what it's called. And they

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would instill this program all these rules and all these

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guidelines and all these things that you have to do

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once they have broken their mind and like fracture them

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and like traumatized them. Like there's footage all over that

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movie on Netflix of the staff just beating these kids

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senselessly and making them do things that you know they

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otherwise would never do, and this is a very traumatic

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thing to these kids. So I think that it's a

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high possibility that some of these people they claim to

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be a part of this secret space program nonsense garbage

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have possibly maybe been through one of these programs and

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they've just completely embellished it. But I think at this

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point the people that are, you know, claiming to be

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a part of this stuff, they're just bandwagoners. They've listened

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to other people talk about their their made up garbage nonsense,

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and then they copy, and then they add a few

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things onto their stuff, and then it just becomes this

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whole giant fairytale nonsense, upside down world time travel nonsense

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garbage story.

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Speaker 3: But hope portals. Yeah, I agree with you on that.

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I forgot what I did an episode once upon a time,

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and it was something I forgot the name might put

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on these wilderness camps. I forgot what they called it.

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But yeah, the there is this concept of and in

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my opinion, Captain America kind of falls in where it's

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a sort of super human power or supernatural power through trauma.

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Right where if you look at any origin story of

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pretty much all superheroes really and if you take into account,

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like Disney's movies and how all the trauma that the

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characters go through, whether it be their parents or whatever

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it is that they lose their parents, like that trauma

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kind of sends them on that hero's journey. And I

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think that that rings true in reality, where you're talking

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about them putting these people through a very traumatic experience.

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And I remember when I was in middle school and elementary,

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we had the Gifted, right there was a separate group

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of kids who were gifted, and they took the more

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advanced classes and trying. I'm starting to think like maybe

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the Gifted was a program to try and see who

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they could get their hands on next, right, like, because

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they're looking for people all time, right, And I think

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that some people are more susceptible than others when it

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comes to this sort of programming, if you will. And

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I remember Gifted was one of those programs where it's like, oh,

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what class do you have next? So I got this

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other class that's, you know, far more advanced because I

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took a test and I scored above a certain you know, percentile.

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And I think maybe they take those kids and who

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knows what they're putting in them, you know, or or

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conditioning them for right, because it seems like that's something

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that they would do. And I think that make Ultra

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and all these programs have just continued under different names.

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Speaker 5: I've heard that before, but I haven't been able to

479
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:50,119
I've heard several people talk about the gifted programs within

480
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:54,359
public school, but I haven't been able to find any

481
00:29:54,839 --> 00:30:00,119
like real documentation. And I'm not saying that you're that it,

482
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160
that it didn't happen, but I haven't been able to

483
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,119
find any real documentation on that these types of programs

484
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,000
were an actual real thing. But I've heard several people

485
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:15,200
talk about it. Now. Whenever I was in school, the

486
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,720
gifted program was that you were mentally challenged. That's what

487
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:30,400
the gifted program meant, no joke. That's what it meant.

488
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,880
That you that you had a learning disability. So therefore

489
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000
you were in a gifted Okay, you were in a

490
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,480
different section.

491
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: Maybe my friend was retired and I thought he was

492
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,559
smarter than I was because he was going to these

493
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,480
special classes, and it turns out that he was he

494
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,000
was worse off than I was. You know, like, I

495
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,720
don't know, I think the earth is flat. It's like Okay,

496
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,240
put him in gifted because he obviously needs it, right,

497
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,200
so send him out of here, maybe, dude, who knows.

498
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,160
But I think that during school, they one hundred percent

499
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,359
had to be sky out in people. How I think

500
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,559
they are now And in my opinion, you know, I

501
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,880
think MC ultra is more put in the foods nowadays.

502
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,519
So I think that they do mind control through the

503
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:16,000
stuff that you consume willingly, right, because no matter how

504
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,480
many times they talk about, you know that MC chicken

505
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,039
meal being so bad for you, We're gonna always go

506
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,039
back and get the fries because the fries are good, right,

507
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:28,880
So you're like sort of addicted and you get this

508
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,400
dopamine from going. And I think that that is the real, uh,

509
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,960
you know, mind control. You know, your make Ultra happy

510
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,519
meal or whatever it is that that you get on

511
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,119
the weekend. So I think it's evolved, dude, And I

512
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,319
think that there's a certain class of people who are

513
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:47,480
susceptible to it. And the reason I say that is

514
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,759
because a lot of these people. For example, one one

515
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:54,599
person that I always use is who wasn't the limelight

516
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,839
recently Mike Tyson with Jake Paul the fake fight that

517
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:04,000
they had right, the money grab and the humiliation ritual

518
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:05,720
that he did because he showed his cheeks on the

519
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,680
full moon and blah blah blah, all this crazy stuff.

520
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,519
And Mike Tyson for a majority of his career was

521
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,200
actually hypnotized. And you notice a change after his trainer

522
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,079
dies and passes on which he had a different trainer, obviously.

523
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,680
You see his demeanor change in the fight conferences that

524
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,400
they do, you know, to hype up the fight before

525
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,400
before he you know, while he was hypnotized, in my opinion,

526
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,759
he was much more calmon. He barely said anything, bro Like,

527
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,359
he barely said anything to the other guy. The other

528
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,599
guy would be going on talking smack and Tyson would

529
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,519
just be like, all right, we'll see you on the

530
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,200
fight night, you know, X date. And if you look

531
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,119
at because I've seen all of Mike Tyson's fight like

532
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400
I love watching old boxing videos of like, you know,

533
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,559
back in the day, and Tyson was such a freaking

534
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,000
nature bro like in his prime, he was just this animal.

535
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:03,920
And in my opinion, they were able to extract that,

536
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:06,480
you know what I call a homunculees, you know, like

537
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,240
a Hercules, this person that were able to extract this

538
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,599
other part of him that made him a killing machine,

539
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,920
that made him, you know, the the the a champion

540
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200
at one point, and that, to me is a perfect

541
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,039
example of using mind control to condition somebody to do

542
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,920
one purpose and that's killed because essentially he was a

543
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,160
killing machine in the ring. And you see the shift

544
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,359
after his original trainer passes on where he just goes,

545
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,680
he spirals out and then we all know the rest

546
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,960
of the history of Mike Tyson, right, the drugs, the allegations,

547
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680
he went, he went to jail for a whole bunch

548
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,519
of other stuff, and ever since then, dude, it feels

549
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,400
like he's not all there, right, he's he's He wasn't

550
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000
the gifted, probably in the gifted classes probably, and he is.

551
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160
I guess they couldn't. Maybe he went through some trauma

552
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,359
when he was a child. I can imagine growing up

553
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,799
in the hood or whatever it is, you will go

554
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,680
through this trauma. And I guess his trainer was able

555
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,559
to take that and really focus in on that and

556
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,679
turn him into this killing machine that he became, and

557
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,400
he was for many years. But after that gig was up,

558
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,480
they flipped the switch, and I guess nobody was ever

559
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,639
able to tap back into that, but he was hypnotized

560
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:24,679
for a majority of his career.

561
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: Dude, well, we also got to remember the Tyson is

562
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:35,639
fifty seven years old, like he's he's he's old, bro,

563
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,079
like only in the movie. Only in the movies, can

564
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,039
somebody that is fifty seven years old, like Sylvester Saloon

565
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,519
and like Expendables, actually get out there and kick ass.

566
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,679
There ain't no way that a fifty seven year old

567
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,280
is going to be a twenty seven year old, no

568
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,920
matter how good they are. And there's I mean, I

569
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,159
don't doubt some of that stuff. But also Tyson, he

570
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:06,760
also almost died, like a couple of months ago, like

571
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440
he was heavily sick, like he was in the hospital.

572
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,280
That's why they had to postpone the fight. It was

573
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,039
supposed to be two months earlier than what it was,

574
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,719
and that's why the training videos were all different and

575
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,559
people were like, oh, well, he's out there. Actually, you know,

576
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,559
why does he look so good in the training videos

577
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,639
because that was way prior to when the fight was

578
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,800
before he was deathly sick and almost died in the hospital.

579
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,280
And then he gets out there a couple of months later.

580
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,639
He's obviously not recovered he's obviously not the same person

581
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,840
or it's a clone either one. Then he gets out

582
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,920
there and he's not that good. But then people are like, oh, well,

583
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,039
it's all it's like fake and stage. I was like, not,

584
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,320
he's just fifty seven years old, dude, he's old. And

585
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,840
he almost died two months before he had the postpone

586
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,199
the fight. So, I mean, I don't know. People they

587
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,760
want to think everything is faking rigged and all that thing, don't.

588
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,599
I don't doubt that, like a lot of I mean,

589
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:11,400
boxing has been a sport that's been heavily rigged in

590
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:15,159
stage since the inception of boxing, Like it's been it's

591
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480
been that way, you know, like it's always been that

592
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,880
type of sport that people have, you know, always been

593
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,159
caught cheating, you know, putting stuff in their gloves, you know,

594
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,639
making their gloves more heavier, and you know, the the

595
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,840
ref is in on it, the judges are in on it.

596
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,239
You know, it's like it's always been a rigged sport.

597
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So it says here is from twenty twenty that

598
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880
he was hypnotized up to three times a day from

599
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440
the age of twelve by I know his name is

600
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:48,519
Constantine caused the Amato seek the psychological help of the

601
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:53,760
late John Helplind helping in order to for the aggressive

602
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,559
heavyweight to control his mind. Is this guy involved in

603
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:07,920
some sort of stuff hypnotist here see m Anyways, I

604
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,360
think I.

605
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: Don't know that Mike Tyson did some five D M

606
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,079
O d MT and he ye yeah, and that God

607
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:23,239
told him to be UH with Jake Paul's ask, So uh,

608
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:25,280
I didn't think that he could lose dude. There's no

609
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,760
way God told him to be Jake Paul's ask. No

610
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,000
way he's gonna lose bro. But that's also within the

611
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,119
Shining as well, because in the first ten minutes of

612
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:38,320
The Shining, when Danny has his UH, he gets his

613
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,039
visions while him and Wendy while Jack is at the

614
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,239
hotel for the interview, Danny and Wendy is back and

615
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,159
Boulder at their apartment, and Danny has his psychic visions,

616
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:53,039
and then the doctor comes and talks to Windy and

617
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,960
is basically like, hey, you know when did these when

618
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,679
do these abilities or did these incidents start it happening?

619
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,159
And she says, well, it was after the time that

620
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Jack came in and injured Danny's arm and that's a

621
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,519
traumatic event for Danny there as well, and that could

622
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,880
unlock these psychic abilities that we talk about in our movie.

623
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:24,400
And another strange thing that the doctor tells Wendy that

624
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:31,159
this is normally due to self hypnosis, that they.

625
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,599
Speaker 3: Self hypnosis, so you hypnotize yourself.

626
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 5: Yes, she utters those words that this normally comes about.

627
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,960
These types of things normally happened due to self hypnosis.

628
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,440
So that's a tie in between, you know, the hypnosis

629
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:54,920
that well, the hypnotizing effect that you were talking about

630
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,639
with Mike Tyson. So he's mean, he's self hypnotizing himself,

631
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:08,159
mixed him with the traumatic event, and he's essentially developed

632
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:11,800
these types of abilities, just like within mk Ultra. That's

633
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,400
what they were trying to do. They were trying to

634
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:17,320
unlock these uh. In a lot of the subprojects these

635
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,639
psychic abilities within the patients by traumatizing them and putting

636
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:27,480
making them susceptible to all these things that would mind fracture, uh,

637
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,639
you know, break them down psychologically so that they can

638
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,679
somehow develop these types of abilities. But one of the

639
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,880
connuity errors, which is a continuity era of dialogue, because

640
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960
there's so many connuity ors within the shining. There's objects

641
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,400
that will move and then reappear, disappear, and then be

642
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,800
there the next scene and be there and then disappear

643
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,440
later on. But there's also connuity rors between the dialogue

644
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,440
of the characters, and one of those is when Wendy

645
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,639
is talking to the doctor in the beginning the movie,

646
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,679
she says that after Jack comes in and injures Danny's

647
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,559
arm because Danny had all of his papers spread out

648
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,880
all across the room and he went to yank Danny

649
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,760
up and injured his arm. She says that five after

650
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,000
that incident, he stopped drinking and that he has been

651
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:25,800
sober for five months, so meaning that that event happened

652
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,239
five months ago. He's been sober for five months. He

653
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,280
injured Danny's arm five months ago. But later on, when

654
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,800
Jack is in the Gold Room talking to Lloyd the

655
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,079
bartender about the incident and admitting that he injured Danny's arm,

656
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,199
he said that it was three years ago.

657
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,039
Speaker 3: Do you think that perhaps I know this is stepping

658
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,119
away from the because right mk Ultra, in my opinion,

659
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,159
is one of these conspiracies that's very tangible. It's something

660
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,800
that can be done here in this reality. This realm,

661
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,000
something that's controllable. Note right, how you've iterated it before,

662
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,800
This movie isn't about ghosts. It's you know, he has

663
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,079
people kind of sort of playing ghosts hallucinations in some

664
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,039
sort of way. But could it be that maybe perhaps

665
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:18,159
the changing of the things in the background and him

666
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,079
getting the timeline mixed up? Do you think that this hotel,

667
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:25,519
this lookout mountain place is maybe perhaps a sort of

668
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,480
like portal or wormhole, and by them switching stuff in

669
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,320
the background, they're jumping from timeline to timeline. He was

670
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880
trying to sort of insinuate that or something going on there,

671
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,280
maybe making them believe that they were warping in time

672
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,280
or something along those lines. Like what are your thoughts

673
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,239
on that? Because I can't see to why this prestigious

674
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:53,559
director in Hollywood would let these slip ups happen, right,

675
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,159
because if he was so paying so much, paying attention

676
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,559
to detail and all these other things, like why would

677
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,840
he let that happen? Maybe there's something more to that.

678
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,320
And it's like flipping through timelines back and forth. It's

679
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,559
like you see that the first script says one thing

680
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,000
and then the second time it says something else. Why

681
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:12,800
the discrepancies.

682
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, that's a really good point. I think

683
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:25,320
that the coninuity errs are put there on purpose, because,

684
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,840
like you said, there's no reason that a perfectionist and

685
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,679
a master filmmaker like Stanley Kubrick would let so many

686
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,480
of these slide. I mean, he has a whole team

687
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,599
working behind him. Like if it missed, if it got

688
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:44,679
past Stanley Kubrick, how did it also get past all

689
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,119
of these other people that are working under him. And

690
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,800
no one has ever been able to answer that. And

691
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,880
I believe that we do answer it subtly. We don't

692
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840
come out and write out and tell you the re

693
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,960
and why there's so many connuity errors in the movie.

694
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,400
It's something that you kind of have to put two

695
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,719
and two together on your own and come to your

696
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,519
own realization about it. But I'm gonna tell you here,

697
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:23,840
is that Kubrick is subconsciously giving He's subconsciously putting all

698
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480
of these errors in the movie, not only between the

699
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:31,679
objects disappearing and reappearing, and then entire sets being completely

700
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,440
different when they walk out of one place and walk

701
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,440
into another, it's a completely different background, and not only

702
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,000
putting in a lot of symbolism within the movie, like

703
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:43,719
setting up later on in the movie that happens in

704
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,840
the beginning of the movie and in the end, which

705
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,280
is another thing. Supposedly, if you run the Shining frontwards

706
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,920
and backwards simultaneously and you put an overlay on it,

707
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,639
everything like lines up perfectly, it's unbelievable.

708
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,519
Speaker 3: Wait what so you take the movie, play it forward

709
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,679
on want and backwards on the other it does what

710
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,840
it like meets up in the center and like crosses

711
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,280
over pretty much.

712
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,519
Speaker 5: It's like creepy. Yeah, yeah, it's wild. It's almost like

713
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:18,280
a perfect movie on a lot of Like that would

714
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,079
be the only way that something like that would happen

715
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,800
is if you've created a perfect movie, because that's like

716
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,039
in you know, martial arts, like they tell you, especially

717
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:32,039
in like taekwondo, that you you haven't perfected the art

718
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,000
until you can do the kadas and the forums backwards.

719
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,480
So I don't know. But the the thing with the

720
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:46,719
Shining and the reason that these continuity errors are there

721
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:52,440
is to subconsciously plant this reality so that the audience

722
00:44:52,480 --> 00:45:00,480
starts questioning their own reality as Jack is starting to

723
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,920
question his own reality. So as Jack is going into

724
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:11,599
his delusions, the audience is also starting to question subconsciously

725
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,360
what's going on with things disappearing and reappearing. And you

726
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,800
can't really see a lot of these in the first

727
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,239
run through, like you really got to be paying attention.

728
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,280
So it's a subconscious thing that he's hitting the audience

729
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,599
with with things just disappearing. Like in the beginning of

730
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,800
the movie, there's a pin that just bounces around Almond's

731
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,119
desk all over the place between shotsers and ashtray on

732
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:38,719
Alma's desk that just jumps around the desk. It's incredible,

733
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,159
but it's to give you that eeriness of what's going

734
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:48,079
on here. Subconsciously. There's something within the Shining that is

735
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:56,320
manipulating your subconscious mind into a very eerie and creepy feeling,

736
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,920
not only with the imagery of the movie, but within

737
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,000
the soundtrack as well. And we know how important sound

738
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,760
is in a movie. It can make or break a movie,

739
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,239
and it has all these creepy sounds and these creepy

740
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,159
tones mixed with the imagery. I mean, I've had several

741
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:20,760
people that has watched it and they've had really strange

742
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,599
nightmares the next day, even watching our film. They'll watch

743
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:30,719
it and then they'll they'll have weird, strange, creepy nightmares.

744
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,599
I've had five interviews that I've done so far that

745
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,679
have watched it so that they had really creepy dreams

746
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,519
after that it was over, and I was like, well,

747
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,239
that has everything to do with The Shining, because I've

748
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,599
had that exact same thing happened to me while watching

749
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,400
The Shining really late at night. I had one of

750
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,280
the most horrific, nightmarish dreams that I had ever had

751
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,519
after I'd watched The Shining late at night and went

752
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:58,239
to sleep. So there's something with the image dream mixed

753
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:04,719
with the subconscious continuity errors and the music of the

754
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:11,079
film that is affecting the viewer's subconscious mind. And we

755
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,559
talk about in the movie how The Shining is an experiment.

756
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:21,760
Not only is Cubic writing a movie about an experiment,

757
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,840
he's also rewriting the movie as the movie is being made,

758
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,840
so it's like he's writing an experiment. He's also doing

759
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,400
an experiment on the actors in the way that he

760
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,400
treats Shelley Duvall within the movie, which is very reminiscent

761
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,000
of what someone would do in a form of MK ultra.

762
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:43,320
Then it's an experiment on the audience that is also

763
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,079
watching it, So it's a triple whammy.

764
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:49,679
Speaker 3: So and that's something I haven't done since I did

765
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:55,079
see the documentaries. Rewatch the movie with you know, new

766
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:59,679
eyes to see if you will. Could The Shining be

767
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:06,199
a sort of initiatory movie? And I'm wondering how many

768
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:11,960
secret government programs have shown this movie to potential candidates

769
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,800
to see how what effect it has on them. And

770
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,760
I mean, this makes me think of like the Netflix

771
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,079
movie with like the Obamas directing it, where it had

772
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:24,800
like this weird sort of I think it was like

773
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,320
a special soundtrack with like certain frequencies on it and all.

774
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 5: Love frequencies, extremely low frequencies.

775
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: That and then the the subtle imagery of the shirts,

776
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,639
you know, the messages on their shirts and stuff like that,

777
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,360
like all this other stuff. It's and you that that

778
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,320
brings up a good point where I didn't notice that

779
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,400
where everything is jumping around and it's like the movie

780
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Cattleake that we did the episode on where it makes

781
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,639
you question your own self and like you're more confused

782
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,320
and disoriented by the end of it than you were

783
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,119
at the beginning, right. Directed by Shama Lama Ding Dong,

784
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,639
which is a guy who or you know, executive producer,

785
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:08,000
you know that guy who is obviously deep into this

786
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,039
sort of stuff. I mean, i'd put him right along

787
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,079
the lines of like a Kubrick esque you know, in

788
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,199
his movies sort of thing where he's like in that

789
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,079
line of like s not a cult, but I'd be

790
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,159
interested to see what kind of ideologies Kubrick. How do

791
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,079
we know what, like what sort of stuff he was into,

792
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:26,119
because he was obviously into some stuff Like I learned

793
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:32,480
recently that how is actually IBM, but the letters are

794
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:38,719
shifted right, So ha, L is IBM but the letters

795
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,519
are shifted over and that's Kubrick, right. Yeah, So again

796
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:47,119
he's in the know about something. He couldn't come out

797
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:49,800
straight up and say like hey, AI is gonna take

798
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,639
over ya Elon Musk talking about making AI generated video

799
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,400
games to make video games great again, like all this

800
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,639
sort of crazy stuff. But he was deep into this

801
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,920
sort of stuff. And then the fact that he was

802
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:09,159
being recommended in these I'm gonna call a cult secret

803
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:11,360
government circles, right because that's what they were, like the

804
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:13,960
cabal or whatever you want to call them. Like, hey,

805
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Kubrick is very promising, you know when it comes very

806
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,800
promising when it comes to what, like what are you

807
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,119
talking about? Like what what are you guys looking for?

808
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,159
That's the perfect candidate to control people through movies. And

809
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:33,320
I'm interested to see how many other famous murders because

810
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,079
right the shining is allegedly you guys present the idea

811
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:42,199
about creating this person to like write a mind controlled

812
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,400
murderer if you will, like to murder your family and

813
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,840
the Catcher and the Rye connection, how many other famous

814
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,639
murderers are also connected to that book? And maybe that

815
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,800
book itself holding a sort of key to unlock that

816
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,159
in these people subconscious or whatever it is to trigger

817
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,360
that said response of like going out and becoming this

818
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,880
I don't want to call him like a sleeper cell,

819
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,440
but like almost like a sleeper cell like mancharan candidate

820
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:13,119
type of thing where it's like I gotta go and

821
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:17,199
do you know whatever, like h hit him art choke,

822
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:21,000
like the Monculous, Like imagine how many people I've like

823
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,119
started up with like Homunculus. They're listening to the one

824
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,000
on one podcast and like Homunculous drops for the thirty

825
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,039
third time in that episode. They're just like I gotta

826
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,360
go out and do whatever, you know?

827
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 5: Season up.

828
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: How many other famous murders have been linked to the

829
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,039
Catcher and the Rye any like I'm thinking of.

830
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Dave McGowan did an entire book called Program

831
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,360
to Kill, which we bring up in our documentary as well.

832
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,800
Jay was good friends with Dave McGowan, knew him well,

833
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,400
and he wrote an entire book on this and he

834
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,000
pretty much lays out the facts that a majority, if

835
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:15,400
not all, of these serial killers were MK ultra type assassins, and.

836
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: That's why they would go out and last so long,

837
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,880
like Dahmer and all these other guys, and that's why

838
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,440
they prop them up in the limelight. There's like thirty

839
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:26,360
thousand documentaries on Dahmer or Ted Bundy or any of

840
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
these other guys. That's why they went on for so long,

841
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
because like you see their story, you go, how did

842
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,639
they catch that guy? Like, why didn't they they catch

843
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,519
that guy sooner? It's like, well, maybe the people in

844
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,519
the background were onto it, pulling the strings behind the scenes,

845
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:46,760
seeing how it would play out, watching from the shadows.

846
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,679
Speaker 5: And they probably knew that they could get away with it.

847
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,079
Just like we talked about in our documentary how all

848
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,480
these famous bands in the sixties all have military connections.

849
00:52:55,519 --> 00:53:00,440
Their fathers are military admirals and generals. Jim Morrison, everyone's

850
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,400
familiar with. Jim Morrison's dad was responsible for the Gulf

851
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,400
of Talking false flag event. He was a naval commander,

852
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,440
which was pretty much started the Vietnam War, and what

853
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,840
did start the Vietnam War that false flag event, but

854
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,000
he was in charge of that. And that makes sense

855
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:18,280
because Jim Morrison was just kind of doing whatever he

856
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,320
wanted to do. He was just out, you know, getting

857
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,719
into whatever you want. As soon as he was in prison,

858
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,840
he was immediately let out, you know, and he knew

859
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,840
that he could basically do whatever he wanted to do

860
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,559
because his dad was this high up naval commander. And

861
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,360
the same with you know, sort of like with Charles

862
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Manson as well. Charles Manson, every time he was in

863
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,719
jail or incarls incarcerated or in a mental hospital, he

864
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,480
was almost immediately let out too. And there's so much

865
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:55,960
evidence that the CIA just pretty much gave Charles Manson

866
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:02,599
the LSD for his group of people. And then when

867
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:05,920
you look at the other military connections and Sharon Tates

868
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,559
dad Sharon Tates dad was a high ranking military officer.

869
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:13,280
They're literally everywhere, and it's and it's like, you know,

870
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:18,239
you come to the realization that you know, it doesn't

871
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,239
matter how good you are at any given thing, Like

872
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:24,559
you can be the best freaking singer in the world,

873
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:26,960
doesn't matter, you can be the best guitar player in

874
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,159
the world, doesn't matter if your dad is an electrician

875
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:33,280
or if he's a plumber, or if he works at

876
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,559
a freaking if he's a garbage truck driver. You're not

877
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,679
going to get anywhere because you're not a part of

878
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,920
the club. You're not a part of the crew. Now

879
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:46,079
and things have changed a little bit now in this

880
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,199
day and age, because it's a digital type of age

881
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:54,079
and anyone can can you know, make a halfway decent

882
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:58,719
income off of doing things online. But definitely back then,

883
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,119
you were not going to be famous in any way,

884
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:03,599
shape or form. If your family was not a part

885
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:05,920
of this grew if your family was not a part

886
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,800
of this club of people, then you weren't ever going

887
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,679
to make it. And that's a really big realization that

888
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,039
I had when I was making the movie. I was like,

889
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:24,440
holy shit, this is the reason this is what it is.

890
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,760
It's just a group of people. And it makes sense

891
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,800
that they would want to put their own in these

892
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:34,199
positions of power because they know that they're going to

893
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,679
go along with the program, right, that they're not going

894
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,920
to go so far outside of the lines. Because if

895
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,119
you get somebody that's not a part of this group,

896
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,400
that's a wild card, dude, And you don't want a

897
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,519
wild card. You want to know exactly what they're going

898
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,039
to do, how they're going to do it, and that

899
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,079
they're going to go along with whatever it is you

900
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,920
want them to do. And that's why they get the

901
00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:02,719
kids of high ranking military peace and there's somebody that's

902
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,639
in their family that is a military officer, commander. I mean,

903
00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:09,920
Bob Marley's dad was a British naval commander.

904
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: And and it's people who have these entire cultural shifts, right,

905
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,320
cultural movements, right. And I've said this before, and even

906
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,679
Fritz Springmyer talks about it in his book. He talks

907
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:25,480
about it, obviously in a different sort of way, but

908
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,480
that it's these people who condition even their own children,

909
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,639
and they do horrific things to their own children to

910
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:35,480
introduce them to the Illuminati or whatever. And maybe he's

911
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:39,760
talking about all these people in these groups and shrouding it,

912
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,840
and maybe he's referring to the government or to any

913
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,360
three later agency like use your imagination, but the concept

914
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,000
of like offering up like your own homunculus for the experimentation, Like, hey,

915
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:55,360
I raised this myself. Here, let's keep it in the family.

916
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,800
We know that they do that. They keep everything in

917
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,480
the family, So why don't we offer up one of

918
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:04,440
our own to partake in this special program We're gonna benefit,

919
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,719
you know, in all these different ways. And who knows

920
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,039
if that's even their kids to begin with, right, Like

921
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:13,920
who knows that that's even their their original children or whatever?

922
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,280
Like this is the cover story that they present to us.

923
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: So and we know how many people did Angelina Jolie adopted.

924
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,840
She adopted like then kids something like that from like

925
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,360
Haiti or something. I don't even know where they're from.

926
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:33,719
She adopted like a lot of different kids. Yeah, right,

927
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760
we don't even know if they're really their kids. I mean,

928
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,599
I don't think they.

929
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,079
Speaker 3: Three.

930
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:43,119
Speaker 5: They have six, Okay, sure, so she adopted three. I

931
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,719
don't think that the theory and speculation, I don't think

932
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,239
that Michael Jackson's kids were his.

933
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Kids well, and and you know, bringing in Kubrick to this,

934
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,760
like we don't know who his dad was, right, Like

935
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,480
that's the whole thing, Like we don't know who his

936
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:56,440
dad was, if he had connections to.

937
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 5: Well, we don't know who Jack Nicholson's dad is. Oh Jack, Yeah,

938
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,880
we don't know who Jack Nicholson's dad is. And his

939
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,519
his mom, his mom doesn't even know who his dad is.

940
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,480
So he was kind of just like born in like limbo.

941
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,400
And then he was a part of this Laurel Canyon

942
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:22,079
movie scene as well. He was in you know, all

943
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,800
of these big bands and all these musicians in Hollywood

944
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,039
is like all like lived up in Laurel Canyon. Then

945
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,440
on top of the Laurel Canyon there was this hotel

946
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:35,880
called Lookout Mountain Hotel, and then that hotel burnt down,

947
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,199
and then the military and the Air Force came in

948
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:46,320
and built a secret UH movie studio and Air Force

949
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base on the exact spot where the Lookout Mountain Hotel was.

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And the Lookout Mountain Hotel looked very similar to UH

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Stanley Kubrick's Overlook Hotel. And then at the end of

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the sequel to The Shining, which was Doctor's Sleep, which

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was directed by Fred's Springmeyer the Overlook Burns of the Ground.

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Speaker 3: Of course. And there's also a Beatle connection in there,

955
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because a lot of these celebrities, a lot of these musicians,

956
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they kind of sort of go through this metamorphosis. And

957
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I've been listening to the Beatles lately, and the Beatles

958
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after Drugs is a whole different vibe. It's a whole

959
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different like dimension of music. And imagine that in the

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time that it came out, like they were so ahead

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of their time. But right, Jim Morrison and all these

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know where to find it and enjoy this episode. They

1011
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:32,480
started experimenting with drugs and we saw how they spiral

1012
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:35,360
out of control and didn't Jim Morrison wasn't he killed?

1013
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Jim Morrison?

1014
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: He was. Jim Morrison supposedly died of a drug overdose

1015
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,519
in the bathtub.

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Speaker 3: And he drowned or no? Was that the ritual?

1017
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: M sure if the I don't think that the drownding

1018
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,519
was the calls of death.

1019
01:02:57,039 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: Found dead in the bathtub of the apartment at approximately

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six say him by Curson. He was twenty seven years old.

1021
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,119
The official cause of death was listed as heart failure,

1022
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:08,760
although no autopsy was performed as it was not required

1023
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,119
by French law. So he was actually born in Melbourne,

1024
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,719
Florida and he died in Paris, France, which we.

1025
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:20,719
Speaker 5: Show a clip of him doing an interview for a

1026
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,320
commercial for the University of Florida where he's super cut

1027
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:28,039
and he's like he has his hair all done up,

1028
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:31,239
like everything's good, he's shaven, and then like a couple

1029
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,840
of years later, he's a completely different person.

1030
01:03:33,559 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: Because he was an actor. I was like, how you

1031
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,840
guys are saying all these people are actors and they're

1032
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,559
playing their role, so how much of it is authentic

1033
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,639
and how much of it is is not right? And

1034
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:46,000
then it makes me think about Kubrick, Like, you know,

1035
01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:48,880
a part of me goes, was he this crazy mastermind?

1036
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:52,760
Or are we giving him more credit than credit is due.

1037
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,800
There's still a part of me that goes, he might

1038
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,920
be faking gay, you know, like there's a little bit

1039
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,400
of that in there where it's like, how you know

1040
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,119
how much of it actually checks out?

1041
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:06,559
Speaker 5: Well, I have a whole slide of things here that

1042
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:11,800
I can show you that is uh checks out. But

1043
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,719
here's the Beatles connect. I don't have it up on slides,

1044
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,400
but you know if you can kind of see it

1045
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,079
on my phone there. But the top picture is the

1046
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,239
Abbey Road the of the Beatles album, and then the

1047
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:29,960
bottom picture is of the Shining Whenever Olmen is giving

1048
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,760
the tour to uh Windy and Danny, and that's Bill

1049
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,679
Watson in behind them. So that's a pretty much identical

1050
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,559
shot their their legs are all lined up in the

1051
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:48,320
exact same way with each of them. But yeah, let's

1052
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,519
go through these these slides real quick, because this is

1053
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,559
a lot. I got a lot of stuff in here

1054
01:04:55,559 --> 01:05:00,239
that isn't even in the movie that I can show

1055
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:00,960
you real quick.

1056
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: Because Whitney Houston also died in a in a bathtub.

1057
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 5: I believe, Yes, yes she did.

1058
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,159
Speaker 3: There you go.

1059
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,199
Speaker 5: Oh wait, I'm gonna do I not have it a

1060
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,760
oh there it is okay for some reason, when I

1061
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,039
hit the share screening does that thing. But also people

1062
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:27,679
might be mad at me for this one, because I've

1063
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:32,800
gotten some arguments about this with people. But Tupac he

1064
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,800
was also an actor.

1065
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah I think he was gay too.

1066
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:40,079
Speaker 5: Yep, but don't say that to the wrong person. Or

1067
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:43,599
they will freaking uh threaten you and threaten to ruin

1068
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:45,119
your career. That's what happened to me.

1069
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:51,719
Speaker 3: I've been doing Gangster. It's okay, I mean, it's fine.

1070
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 5: Just type it in the YouTube. Just type in Tupac

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01:05:54,519 --> 01:05:58,840
gay and that's all you gotta do. That's all you

1072
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,159
gotta do. And watch the inter you and that's it. Okay.

1073
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:06,400
So the clockwork shining, So this is one of the

1074
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,079
ones that I seen that's also in the trailer. This

1075
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:13,039
is one that no one else had ever seen before

1076
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:17,760
until I had spotted it within the movie. And really

1077
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,280
this is a screenshot. Yes, absolutely, I was the first

1078
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,000
person to see this. And when and if anyone tells

1079
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,800
you that they saw it first, they're absolutely lying. I

1080
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,199
did a show with Jay Widener on this like two

1081
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:35,760
years ago, and I brought this out to everybody then,

1082
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,719
So if they they're definitely mistaken. So whenever Jack is

1083
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:44,480
sitting at the bar and Lloyd serves in the alcohol

1084
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:48,519
the second time that they're in the gold room, this

1085
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:55,360
lady right here, she walks in behind Jack and she's

1086
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,440
actually the lady that bumps into Grady right here that

1087
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:05,480
makes him spilled the alcohol on Jack. And right here

1088
01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:09,840
at the bottom, it looks like she has a bloody

1089
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:15,159
handprint on the lower half of her dress. And some

1090
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,599
people have argued with me that this isn't really a handprint,

1091
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:21,679
that it's set up as a part of the dress.

1092
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:24,880
But regardless if it's baked into the dress or if

1093
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,840
it's a real handprint that someone put on there, it

1094
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,639
still looks like a bloody handprint. And this really resembles

1095
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,719
another movie, and another really famous movie, which is cast

1096
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:41,800
Away with Tom Hanks in two thousand. That same type

1097
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:48,800
of handprint is on Wilson the volleyball. It's almost identical,

1098
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:53,920
well in the same shape as that handprint. So people

1099
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,000
were saying, oh, well, this is not a handprint because

1100
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,440
it only has four fingers. Well, whenever Tom Hanks cut

1101
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,239
his hand while he was trying to start a fire

1102
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,320
and cast Away, there's a four fingered handprint on the volleyball,

1103
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,880
so it can be four fingers.

1104
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,159
Speaker 7: Okay.

1105
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 3: Those paintings that look nearly similar to the that thing there.

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01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:22,119
Speaker 5: Yep, yep. And one of the first continuity airs within

1107
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:27,439
the Shining is in the establishing shot of the overlook.

1108
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:35,159
There's not a hedgemes in behind the Hotel, but later

1109
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:41,560
on there is a hedge means, and I mean, people

1110
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,640
can argue with that all they want and say, well,

1111
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,960
I mean, it's one factual that the establishing shots of

1112
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,479
the overlook within Stanley Kubrick's The Shining was filmed that

1113
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,119
Timberline Lodge, and the Timberline Lodge doesn't have a maze

1114
01:08:56,199 --> 01:08:59,159
behind it. Neither does the Stanley Hotel. Neither one of

1115
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:04,640
those hotels have hedgemeses behind them. But that's besides the point.

1116
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,039
It's still a continuity are within the movie because it's

1117
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,319
established that there's a maazing behind the hotel, but there's not.

1118
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,560
This one is interesting. It has cool laid on top

1119
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,760
of the refrigerator that's in the apartment and Jack and

1120
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:28,520
Wendy's apartment in Boulder, which may be symbolically referencing the

1121
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,960
Jim Jones massacre that happened during the shooting of this movie.

1122
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:36,760
That is just one hundred percent speculation. We don't know.

1123
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,439
I mean, it could just be randomly put kool aid

1124
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,560
in there, who knows. But Cubrick wanted to put props

1125
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,439
and real things in the background. He didn't want them

1126
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,239
to be like all the food and all the stuff

1127
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,800
that's in the storage room is like all real food.

1128
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,119
It's not like prop food, like it's all real stuff

1129
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,760
because he wanted everything to be super realistic. This is

1130
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,119
when one of the one of the ones that people

1131
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,720
have pointed out for a really long time, but it's

1132
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,520
also in our movie, just to get an establishing idea

1133
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,079
of the connuity errors within the shining, which is Dopey

1134
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:17,600
the Dwarf disappearing on Danny's door. In the first shot

1135
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,920
when Danny is in the bathroom, there's a sticker Dopey

1136
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,920
the Dwarf there, and then when the doctor comes to

1137
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:29,159
visit scans over here at this bottom screenshot, a Dopey

1138
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:32,840
the Dwarf of the Southern Dwarfs is missing off the door.

1139
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,840
This one's really interesting. This one is whenever Hollerin is

1140
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,159
giving Windy and Danny a tour of the kitchen area.

1141
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:48,079
This is the entrance into the storage room. There's a

1142
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:51,640
light switch up here to the left, and then whenever

1143
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,560
Windy is carrying Jack's body into the storage room later

1144
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,560
on in the movie, the light switch is gone and

1145
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,840
this is obviously the same set. If I were to

1146
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:06,399
bring this image down a little bit, it would still

1147
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,000
say a chef's office right there. You can see a

1148
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:12,520
chef's office in this bottom photo and has the ending

1149
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,199
of chefs there in office in the top photo. Another

1150
01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:20,920
one is light switches appearing. So whenever Jack goes into

1151
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,159
almonds office for the first time for the interview, there's

1152
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:30,119
no light switch underneath the painting entrance into Almend's office.

1153
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:34,560
But whenever Jack goes into Almend's office later on in

1154
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,880
the movie to destroy the radio to prevent Danny and

1155
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,199
Wendy from calling the police to alert them to come

1156
01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:43,880
up to the hotel, there's a light switch that has

1157
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:51,079
appeared underneath the photo. This one's really interesting. I already

1158
01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:56,159
previously talked about it. Whenever Wendy just a cigarette, dude,

1159
01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:01,239
Holy crap, this cigarette is burning for a minute.

1160
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 7: Dog.

1161
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,560
Speaker 5: But in the beginning of the movie, Whendy says that

1162
01:12:06,079 --> 01:12:09,920
Jack has been sober for five months after he injured

1163
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:13,119
Danny's arm, And then when Jack is explaining the story

1164
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:16,319
to Lloyd the bartender here later on in the movie,

1165
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:17,720
he says, there was three years.

1166
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: Ago, isn't that maybe like hinting at that she might

1167
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,880
have been like in a trance or something and just

1168
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,840
let it burn right for a while before she took

1169
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,279
a drag of it or something. I don't know.

1170
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just she says that it was one

1171
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:39,880
of those it's an English cigarette that would just do that,

1172
01:12:40,039 --> 01:12:45,119
like unless you like actually asked it, then it's not

1173
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:47,720
going to fall off until it's like almost all the

1174
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,680
way down. This is another famous one that people have

1175
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,199
pointed out. Before the chair behind Jack disappears Whendy comes

1176
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:00,520
to talk to him in the main lobby of the

1177
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,880
hotel while he's writing his novel, which it turns out

1178
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,399
he's not really writing a novel, he's just writing the

1179
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:07,760
same sentence over and over again, all working no play

1180
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,079
makes Jack a doll boy, which is a psychic driving technique.

1181
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,800
And the chair behind him is in the first shot

1182
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,359
and then it cuts the windy and then it's gone

1183
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,319
and the next shot and then it cuts back to

1184
01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:21,720
windy and then it's reappeared.

1185
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 3: That one's kind of obvious, like if you didn't catch

1186
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:29,279
that while watching the movie back or something that that

1187
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:33,000
to me proves I think this is intentional because this shot,

1188
01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:37,079
in particular, it's right there. The fact that it's not

1189
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:41,279
there in the second you know, half of it It's like,

1190
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:43,760
come on, who who couldn't have missed that? This how

1191
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,960
you're saying, this whole team of people working behind him

1192
01:13:47,079 --> 01:13:49,600
and they miss that thing. It's like a chair with

1193
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,279
the whole table next to it. What the hell is that?

1194
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:55,159
Speaker 5: I know? I know it's so wild. That one's that

1195
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:59,600
one's super wild. And then this one is when in

1196
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,159
the beginning another movie, in the first ten minutes, Olmen

1197
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,640
is mentioning to Jack the amount of time that needs

1198
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,560
to be that they're going to be spinning up here

1199
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,560
at the hotel, and that their winter season runs for

1200
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:19,359
seven months. But then Jack says, five months of peace

1201
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,239
is just what I want. So that one's a wild one.

1202
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,239
Connuitier within the dialogue of the characters, this is one

1203
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:31,920
that Jay Widner has pointed out previously, which is a

1204
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:35,479
sexual in the window. Whenever Jack goes in to meet

1205
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,880
Almond for the first time and they shake hands, there's

1206
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:41,800
a paper tray, a black paper tray on the desk

1207
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:47,520
that makes it look like Almond has an erection. And

1208
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,479
another one is the teddy bear in the background that

1209
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,079
has a firetruck and the latter is sticking up out

1210
01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:54,800
of the teddy bear that makes it look like the

1211
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,800
Teddy Bear also has an erection, and there's a lot

1212
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,920
of what seems like sexual at tension between Jack and

1213
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,520
Danny throughout the movie. There's another thing that wasn't mentioned

1214
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,039
in our movie, but that other people have pointed out

1215
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:12,560
that whenever Jack is in the lobby of the hotel,

1216
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,640
when Windy and Danny show up and Bill Watson and

1217
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,920
Ollman go to meet Jack to get his bags, he's

1218
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,279
reading a Playgirl magazine. And we know Playgirl magazine is

1219
01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:30,359
for gay men, and because there's nothing but dudes in there.

1220
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:35,880
And yeah, and also another thing that Jay has brought

1221
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,680
up before is that all of the luggage that they

1222
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,840
have that they bring into the hotel isn't really possible

1223
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,239
to fit in the back of a Volkswagen Beetle.

1224
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: And one interesting thing that I'm looking at here because

1225
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,439
I just I just learned this because I know you

1226
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,439
guys talk about the Stephen King connection, but the story

1227
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,920
is actually by Stephen King, and then it was directed

1228
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,000
by Kubrick. And what's interesting about these characters that Jack

1229
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:10,479
Torrence is played by Jack Nicholson, Danny is played by

1230
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,560
Danny Lloyd, and then obviously Shelley is Wendy. But the

1231
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:19,279
fact that they're using characters with the same name as

1232
01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:22,880
the characters in the movie right that, that to me

1233
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,600
is kind of odd and it reminds me of the

1234
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,840
recent movie that Nick Cage did when he played a

1235
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,920
version of Nick Cage, but it was spelt differently, so

1236
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,960
it wasn't Nick Cage, Nicholas Cage's the actual person, but

1237
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:40,039
Nick Cage. I think it was Nick. He was playing

1238
01:16:40,079 --> 01:16:42,359
that character in the movie. So it was like a

1239
01:16:42,399 --> 01:16:46,800
weird like stacking sort of thing. I don't know what

1240
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,800
they're trying to get, you know, do with that, but

1241
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:51,520
I just find that interesting. Bro.

1242
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:56,079
Speaker 5: Yeah. Another one that does that is The Office. Pretty

1243
01:16:56,119 --> 01:16:58,319
much all the people that are in the TV show

1244
01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:02,359
of The Office first names are really the first names

1245
01:17:02,359 --> 01:17:05,920
of the characters that they play. Yeah, besides like Steve

1246
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,800
Carell and Michael in the Office, but everybody else's names

1247
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,840
are the same. Like Oscar, he plays a gay character

1248
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,119
in the Office. He's actually gay in real life. What

1249
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:20,239
they did is they just took these like people's real

1250
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:24,720
lives and then just like exaggerated them and the TV show. Yeah,

1251
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:31,399
pretty much. But this photo is really interesting because right

1252
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:37,079
beside the Teddy bear is the baseball bat that Wendy

1253
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,520
goes and picks up, which in the next scene when

1254
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,520
she goes downstairs, is the baseball bat that she strikes

1255
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,880
Jack with. And I didn't realize that until I went

1256
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:52,720
and made the screenshots of these of these photos to

1257
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,880
give an illustration of all the connuity eras in the training.

1258
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,439
But right next to the teddy bear is where Wendy

1259
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:00,720
grabs baseball bat.

1260
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, hey, look here, right.

1261
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:12,319
Speaker 5: Yep, yep. And this one is another really interesting one

1262
01:18:12,399 --> 01:18:15,560
that falls in line with our analysis of the movie,

1263
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:23,880
which is qbic basically symbolizing that like subconsciously implanting a

1264
01:18:24,039 --> 01:18:27,199
scene that is going to happen later on from the

1265
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,840
beginning that plays out in the very end. So in

1266
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,840
the beginning of the movie, when doctor comes to visit Danny,

1267
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,000
he's laying on a teddy bear. And then later on,

1268
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:40,279
as Windy as you know, basically succumbed to the trauma

1269
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:43,359
that has been inflicted upon her by Jack trying to

1270
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:48,279
kill her with an ax, she walks upstairs and sees

1271
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:53,479
this guy in a furry bear costume, and this gentleman

1272
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,800
looks like they're in the middle of a sexual act

1273
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,640
and this scene no one has ever been able to explain.

1274
01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:04,880
But if you watch our movie, you'll understand what this

1275
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,119
scene actually is. But you'll have to put two and

1276
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:10,199
two together. But I'll give you guys a hint and

1277
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:15,720
say that these people are not ghosts. They're actors. They

1278
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,239
are LARPing this scenario up at the overlook, and these

1279
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:24,720
people are This guy in the bear costume is.

1280
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 6: A part of the larp.

1281
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, two bears, one gay, right type of thing. So

1282
01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:36,600
the one other interesting thing about Danny is that the

1283
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:41,640
imaginary friend that he has in his finger, I've heard

1284
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,840
it called the homunculus before you ever heard that.

1285
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: Well, he talks to him with his finger, but he

1286
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:54,399
mentions to the doctor that his imaginary friend is in

1287
01:19:54,479 --> 01:20:00,119
his throat. Whoa, And the doctor says, well, can I

1288
01:20:00,119 --> 01:20:04,239
I see him? And then Danny responds by saying, no,

1289
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:07,520
he's not, he's not here right now or whatever. But

1290
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,039
the imaginary friend is supposedly in his throat from what

1291
01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:16,880
he explains. From what he explains, Uh, you know, I

1292
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:21,520
don't want to just don't watch us super late A dude,

1293
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,760
that's all that's all you gotta do. Uh. Then we

1294
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,720
have tang in the background that other people have pointed

1295
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,239
out in before, which Tang was a big you know,

1296
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:37,880
drink for astronauts in the Apollo program. That's uh super

1297
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,840
popular because for some reason they couldn't drink the water,

1298
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,920
so they had to put something like the water was

1299
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,840
super nasty or something due to the altitude or whatever

1300
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,000
it is that they said, and so they would bring

1301
01:20:50,119 --> 01:20:52,920
Tang on these missions to mix with the water so

1302
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:57,880
they could drink the water. This one's a really interesting

1303
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:03,920
one that whenever Danny first sees room two thirty seven

1304
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,800
and he stops on his big wheel tricycle, there's a

1305
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,640
door to the right of him that's a cirtcoad right

1306
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,640
here that is closed, but then in the next shot

1307
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:16,319
it's open.

1308
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: The doors are perception and I think that's the scene

1309
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,159
right there where I've seen people connected the toy story,

1310
01:21:24,319 --> 01:21:26,800
which obviously has Tom Hanks in it. Do you ever

1311
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,560
see that that conspiracy?

1312
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have that in a couple of slides, I

1313
01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:35,560
think in two slides down.

1314
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1315
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,039
Speaker 5: This one is another one that a lot of people

1316
01:21:41,119 --> 01:21:44,119
have pointed out. The Karpas switching pattern. So when before

1317
01:21:44,399 --> 01:21:48,600
Danny stands up to go into room two thirty seven.

1318
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,920
Later on in the movie, he has the Apollo eleven

1319
01:21:52,319 --> 01:21:55,600
shirt on, but there's a continuity error here, and a

1320
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,680
lot of people said that he just switched squares or

1321
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,279
turned around in the square, but it's still an error

1322
01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:04,520
because in the first shot the carpet is an open

1323
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,960
facing hexagonal pattern, and then in the next shot it's

1324
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:15,960
a closed facing hexagonal pattern, and then of course the

1325
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:22,319
Apollo eleven symbolism. Jay Wiener talked about this in his

1326
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:28,640
previous to Kubrick's Odyssey movies, where he posturized that the

1327
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:33,720
shining is Kubrick's confession to faking the moon landing. Danny

1328
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,239
has the Apollo eleven shirt on. He stands up from

1329
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:41,840
the hexagonal pattern, which looks like the the launch pad

1330
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,199
from the Apollo eleven rocket. He goes in the room

1331
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,760
to thirty seven. At that time, people thought that the

1332
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,199
moon was two hundred and thirty seven thousand miles away

1333
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:58,600
from the Earth. Here is a toy story connection.

1334
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty that is pretty bizarre. Was it the

1335
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,760
same company that released that? So you got Warner Bros.

1336
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,319
Speaker 5: Who really Disney Pixar.

1337
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 3: Pixar, Yeah, so distribute what Walt Disney Studio's motion Pictures.

1338
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:22,359
Speaker 5: But the director of Tours Story was a really big

1339
01:23:22,399 --> 01:23:27,840
fan of Stanley Cubrek. And but it just so happens

1340
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:33,800
that Buzz like you're in this movie discovers that he's

1341
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,159
not a real astronaut, that he's a fake.

1342
01:23:39,119 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of these movies that they make, bro,

1343
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,399
they are talking to each other, right, and in some

1344
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:51,399
really expensive way of like hey, we're onto you. And

1345
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,680
I feel like they send a lot of messages through

1346
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,600
the movies that they make to other and by other

1347
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,399
people and by they and them. I'm talking about like

1348
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,199
these secret groups, right, these people that we always talk

1349
01:24:03,279 --> 01:24:05,880
about with be lizard people or a monkeylus or whatever.

1350
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,600
Like they're talking to each other. And I believe that

1351
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,680
there's different factions and they all have a different amount

1352
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,159
of power, but they all rule their own kind of

1353
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:15,600
sort of domains. And I think that they send a

1354
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:20,720
lot of messages and things through the use of these movies,

1355
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,600
and that's why they're so important.

1356
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. The guy that

1357
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:35,359
directed Toy Story was also the guy that financed the

1358
01:24:35,359 --> 01:24:39,439
the other really big shining documentary that also had Jay

1359
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Winder in in, which was the producer of this documentary

1360
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:48,199
called Room two thirty seven, so he he financed that

1361
01:24:48,279 --> 01:24:51,079
movie as well, so he was a really big, huge

1362
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:56,000
fan and it said. People have theorized that that guy

1363
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:01,720
actually has the original ending to the shin that Cubriic

1364
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,760
cut out, but that's just been rumor and speculation. I

1365
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,000
don't think that anybody has it because Cubic got rid

1366
01:25:09,079 --> 01:25:14,119
and destroyed all the outtakes, any of the extra footage

1367
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:15,920
that's not a part of the movie, any of the

1368
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,239
footage that he cut out, he just destroyed it. He

1369
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:20,960
got rid of it. So I think that that's just

1370
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,760
a rumor that this guy that made Toy Story has

1371
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:27,079
the original ending to the Shining because it's one of

1372
01:25:27,119 --> 01:25:31,319
the most infamous pieces of lost media and history of

1373
01:25:32,119 --> 01:25:36,880
lost media. This was really interesting, which I think connects

1374
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,920
to the moon Landing as well. There's TVs within the

1375
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,800
Shining that are shown to not be plugged into anything,

1376
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,479
which is perfect for not only MK Ultra, but also

1377
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,159
the faking of the moon landing in the fact that

1378
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,039
if the moon landing was faked by Stanley Kubrick, then

1379
01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:02,159
the footage would have been previously made footage and it

1380
01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:05,720
wouldn't have been live like people were led to believe

1381
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,560
in nineteen sixty nine, So it makes sense that he

1382
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:14,840
would symbolically be representing that there's really nothing on the TV.

1383
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,119
It's playing without anything being plugged in. That's just my

1384
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:25,199
personal that's right, a dad. And this one is another

1385
01:26:25,239 --> 01:26:28,199
really interesting one, which is a continuity error between the

1386
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:33,279
dialogue of the characters, which is when Almon is when

1387
01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:37,159
Jack is in Almand's office getting the interview for the

1388
01:26:37,239 --> 01:26:40,800
role that being the caretaker up at the overlook, Almen

1389
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:49,119
says that Charles Grady was the former caretaker of the

1390
01:26:49,159 --> 01:26:53,720
hotel and that he murdered his family up there. But

1391
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:59,439
when Jack meets Grady in the bathroom at the party

1392
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:05,000
the second time, he refers to himself as Delbert Grady.

1393
01:27:07,359 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 3: So a completely different character.

1394
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,520
Speaker 5: Well I think that, I mean that's what people have

1395
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,159
had theories on what that what that is and says

1396
01:27:17,159 --> 01:27:20,760
that they're two different people and all that, but they

1397
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,039
all have the same background story that they murdered their

1398
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,960
entire family, So I in relation.

1399
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,119
Speaker 3: To almost like it's happened before and he's just another

1400
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,880
test subject. And that's why I'm saying that, like this

1401
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,680
facility that they're using, maybe perhaps it's a real facility

1402
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,600
where they go and they test this sort of stuff

1403
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:46,560
on people to see what their what their reactions are.

1404
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,880
Have there ever? Has there ever been a remastered version

1405
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,720
of The Shining? Do you know there is?

1406
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:59,520
Speaker 5: It's been released on Blu ray and stuff like and

1407
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,640
you can watch. I think, well, HBO had it on

1408
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,000
their streaming service for Halloween. I don't know if it's

1409
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:08,520
still on there, but I think that you can get

1410
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:14,439
it in four K on like Blu Ray or on

1411
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:15,319
something like that.

1412
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 3: I check to see if it's the same or not

1413
01:28:17,119 --> 01:28:18,960
they changed anything up, because you know that they do

1414
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,680
that now with like music. I remember one of the

1415
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,920
first people that I knew that was switching up music

1416
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,279
post releasing is like Kanye West, which Kanye West is

1417
01:28:29,319 --> 01:28:32,520
also tied into a lot of Mike Ultra stuff. I mean,

1418
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,640
he's been in the limelight. And the one clip that

1419
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,319
freaked me out from the documentary, which I'd never seen before,

1420
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:40,399
was the Britney Spears one Dude where she's like kind

1421
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:43,680
of sort of spassing out and like talking to herself

1422
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,600
and like he ew, you know, like I'm like whoa

1423
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,079
Like that was an interview on like a famous show.

1424
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like two thousand and four interview where she

1425
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,000
just like trips.

1426
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,239
Speaker 3: Out like glitch is out. That that was bizarre.

1427
01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people have forgotten about that

1428
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,760
because there's been so many of them that's happened after that,

1429
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,199
Like Katy Perry had to freak out in an interview

1430
01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:13,520
like that. CARDI b All of them have had like,

1431
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,479
well not all of them, but several of them after

1432
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:22,039
Britney Spears had her her kind of moutdown, have had

1433
01:29:22,079 --> 01:29:25,399
those types of things happened to them as well. So

1434
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,239
it's kind of been overshadowed, and I think Britney Spears

1435
01:29:28,279 --> 01:29:31,920
is one of the first ones. And what's really interesting, dude,

1436
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,640
is like after this movie released, I had a girl

1437
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,119
that I know that I've met before reach out to

1438
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:43,479
me and message me and tell me that after she

1439
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:49,079
had watched my movie and the Britney Spears part came up,

1440
01:29:50,359 --> 01:29:58,920
she was a Britney Spears body double. What she was

1441
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,039
a Britney Spears for several of Britney Spears's music videos.

1442
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I believe it that they have bodies. I've

1443
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,439
said this before.

1444
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And she sent me like the photos of her

1445
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:15,640
being the being in Britney Spears's music video for Womanizer.

1446
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:18,159
I was like, well, would you be able to like

1447
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:23,960
spot and tell me where, uh like, what parts are

1448
01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:27,079
like you in this music video? And she was like, yeah,

1449
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:29,840
I would definitely be able to tell you because I'm

1450
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,000
a little bit tinier than Britney Spears and my neck

1451
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:37,000
is longer. And I'd met her several times, like I'd

1452
01:30:37,039 --> 01:30:40,720
met this lady several times, a couple of times actually,

1453
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,079
and I was like, okay, well, don't tell me which

1454
01:30:45,119 --> 01:30:47,159
one is you and which one isn't you. Let me

1455
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:50,560
watch the Womanizer video and see if I can spot it,

1456
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,399
because I never even this never even crossed my mind.

1457
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 3: Dude.

1458
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, Britney Spears is Britney Spears, Like

1459
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,079
she's going to be doing all of her own stuff,

1460
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:02,079
but she not. None of these people, None of these

1461
01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:08,199
people do all their their stuff. And I was watching

1462
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:11,680
it and I took those cues that she told me.

1463
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,359
She was like, I'm smaller and I have a longer

1464
01:31:14,399 --> 01:31:18,680
neck than Britney Spears. In I watched it twice and

1465
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,319
then I screenshoted a couple of screenshots which I thought

1466
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:23,079
was her, and then I sent them to her and

1467
01:31:23,079 --> 01:31:25,960
she says, yup, does me And then she sent me

1468
01:31:26,039 --> 01:31:30,880
the pictures of her. Which was another really interesting thing

1469
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,800
that she told me was that the music video for

1470
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:42,479
Womanizer was shot inside of a Boeing hangar. What, Yeah,

1471
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,239
this wasn't I don't like a Hollywood's was that a

1472
01:31:45,279 --> 01:31:46,079
Boeing hangar?

1473
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 3: What a weird thing to have on your resume? Like

1474
01:31:49,039 --> 01:31:53,680
I was a body double for Britney Spears, right, wouldn't

1475
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,600
you like lead every conversation with that?

1476
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,159
Speaker 5: That's what I said. I was like, have you talked

1477
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:00,960
to anybody about this before? And she was like, yeah,

1478
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,760
I've brought it up to a few people before on

1479
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,479
like interviews and stuff, but they just kind of like

1480
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,800
brush over. And I'm like, that is a huge deal,

1481
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,119
Like I don't know who would brush over that, Like

1482
01:32:10,199 --> 01:32:12,920
that's that's wild? And why was it filmed out a

1483
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,239
freaking bowing hangar?

1484
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1485
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 7: No?

1486
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,119
Speaker 3: And and that plays into like, right, because we always

1487
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:23,159
talk about celebrities having clones or whatever. Well, if a

1488
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:26,279
lot of infamous people throughout history, you know, they said

1489
01:32:26,279 --> 01:32:29,199
to Saddam Hussein had a body double, Hitler had a

1490
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:32,840
body double. All these people throughout have had body doubles.

1491
01:32:33,279 --> 01:32:37,640
Why wouldn't these assets of Hollywood that are worth millions

1492
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,760
and billions of dollars not have a sort of body double, right?

1493
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,520
And maybe that's what And it makes you think of

1494
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,560
like why Michael Jackson would do the stuff that he did,

1495
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:52,119
Maybe so they wouldn't be able to emulate him, right,

1496
01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:55,119
Like like if you think about all the surgeries that

1497
01:32:55,159 --> 01:32:57,439
he had done. Obviously was like from a burn, but

1498
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,319
he kept doing more and more stuff to him And

1499
01:32:59,359 --> 01:33:01,760
you see a lot of the celebrities that do these

1500
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,600
weird modifications to their bodies of like a different chin.

1501
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,920
It's like, what if there's like another meaning to that,

1502
01:33:08,039 --> 01:33:11,520
Like you can't copy me anymore. You can't put a

1503
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,640
body double in for me whenever you want now, like

1504
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,359
I'm going to control when I go when I don't go, right,

1505
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,560
Like if we look at it from a different perspective,

1506
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,640
that makes a lot of sense to me.

1507
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I asked her that question. I was like, well,

1508
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,880
in your scenario, like why did why did Britney Spears

1509
01:33:30,039 --> 01:33:34,399
need body doubles? And she said, well, she needed body

1510
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:38,960
doubles for these music videos because there were there's like

1511
01:33:39,239 --> 01:33:42,439
the shooting of these music videos are really they take

1512
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,560
up a lot of time. Like there's sometimes like go

1513
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,319
on for weeks and weeks and weeks, and sometimes you'll

1514
01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:53,399
spend an entire day filming one scene. So why would

1515
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:58,960
you need Britney Spears there to pick up a freaking

1516
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,279
cherry that needs to be shot twenty times? Is going

1517
01:34:02,359 --> 01:34:05,960
to take ten hours, yeah, to do it. So they

1518
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:10,039
hire these body doubles to come in, and I'm sure

1519
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:14,720
that there's a lot of other more nefarious reasons why

1520
01:34:15,039 --> 01:34:19,359
they would do that as well, you know, showing up

1521
01:34:19,399 --> 01:34:23,079
for certain events. I mean, if you didn't want to go,

1522
01:34:23,359 --> 01:34:25,199
like send the freaking body double, Like they don't have

1523
01:34:25,239 --> 01:34:27,239
to talk to anybody to do any kind of interviews,

1524
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:31,119
just show up and they look almost identical. Like she

1525
01:34:31,239 --> 01:34:36,199
said that there were three, well, including her, there was

1526
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:39,319
another body double in the Womanizer video, so she wasn't

1527
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:43,640
the only one. There was another one there and also

1528
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,680
Britney Spears. So Britney Spears had two body doubles for

1529
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:54,000
the Womanizer music video. Interesting, Yeah, I thought that that

1530
01:34:54,119 --> 01:34:56,960
was really wild. And she said that the Boeing Hangar

1531
01:34:57,399 --> 01:35:00,399
is like that she was in. I think that was

1532
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:04,520
in two thousand and she told me the exact date

1533
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,239
when it was filmed. It was like in like two

1534
01:35:07,319 --> 01:35:10,359
thousand and seven, two thousand and six. So whenever the

1535
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,640
when Ier video came out, she said that the Boeing

1536
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:21,319
hanger like outdoes any other Hollywood studio. And she said

1537
01:35:21,319 --> 01:35:24,359
that she's been all of the Hollywood studios and.

1538
01:35:24,319 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 3: It just makes me think of Kubrick when they wouldn't

1539
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,000
let him see the plane. Is that a B fifty

1540
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,119
two bomber?

1541
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? The military was like, absolutely not. And then his

1542
01:35:36,119 --> 01:35:40,560
production designer got all these magazines excuse me, and got

1543
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,399
all these cutouts of this magazine and then redesigned the

1544
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:48,520
inside of a B fifty two to the best of

1545
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,520
their knowledge, and they got it almost perfectly correct. And

1546
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,680
then the military shows up on set and was like

1547
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,159
shocked by how correct they got the inside of the

1548
01:35:59,159 --> 01:36:02,479
B fifty two. No civilian has ever been able to

1549
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,600
see the inside of it. And then they were like, oh, well,

1550
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,640
we gotta we got to invest how did they get this?

1551
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,159
They thought that Kubrick had some kind of insider that

1552
01:36:11,279 --> 01:36:12,760
was leaking him the information.

1553
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it makes you wonder what other countries can

1554
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,000
do with the same amount of information that they were.

1555
01:36:20,199 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly who knows? Who knows? That's that was probably

1556
01:36:27,279 --> 01:36:30,079
the exact point where they were like, oh well, we

1557
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:33,399
got to be more involved with these productions of movies.

1558
01:36:33,399 --> 01:36:35,640
And we showed documents in the in the in our

1559
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:40,640
movie at Clockwork Shining. That shows the intelligence involvement in

1560
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:48,399
movies going back years, the Transformers movies, what was the

1561
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:53,399
other one? Die Another Day? Like a lot of these

1562
01:36:53,439 --> 01:37:00,520
movies all had military and intelligence support and the people

1563
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:05,079
that funded it. And Qubriak's the credits to two thousand

1564
01:37:05,079 --> 01:37:08,840
and one A Space Odyssey originally had all of these

1565
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:16,720
big aerospace company he like thinked Langley, Virginia Air Force, Intelligence,

1566
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:22,239
a lot of the government contractors, Yeah and essay, like

1567
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,279
all these people and then he cut him out out

1568
01:37:25,279 --> 01:37:27,359
of the end of the movie because I'm sure that

1569
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:31,319
he He probably put them in there thinking that it

1570
01:37:31,399 --> 01:37:35,119
was okay, and then some military personnel or high ranking

1571
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:37,960
military guy saw it at the end there I was like, hey,

1572
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:39,119
what are you doing, bro?

1573
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he did it in control, Bro, like I'm gonna

1574
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,319
put it in here to see if I can get

1575
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:46,680
away with it. Obviously it got and that's all I'm saying,

1576
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,479
Like if he is revealing too much. And this movie

1577
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,479
is a sort of initiation process or like a tool

1578
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,039
used to initiate somebody. Why would they even let him

1579
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:59,359
release it in the first place? Or you know, the

1580
01:37:59,359 --> 01:37:59,960
the other one that.

1581
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 5: I think that it's so well hidden in The Shining

1582
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:09,439
because if this was something that was like, why has

1583
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,359
no one put this together until now? Like? Why am

1584
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:16,479
I the person that has put this together? Well, I

1585
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,159
mean it's definitely went over the heads of a lot

1586
01:38:20,199 --> 01:38:21,199
of people before me.

1587
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 3: And if you look at The Shining from the perspective

1588
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,239
of like Stephen King, and even Stephen King is kind

1589
01:38:28,239 --> 01:38:30,479
of shady when it comes to a lot of things.

1590
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,279
Does he have any three later agency connections that you

1591
01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:33,600
know of?

1592
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 5: I mean, what is this movie forty four years old

1593
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,279
and no one has come up with this this theory yet,

1594
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,840
So it's like it had to have gone over I mean,

1595
01:38:47,319 --> 01:38:50,039
people have watched this movie a lot of times and

1596
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:51,920
they haven't come to this conclusion.

1597
01:38:52,079 --> 01:38:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1598
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. And one of the first indicators of that is

1599
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,800
the Catcher in the Rye, which when we first meet

1600
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:05,039
Wendy and Danny in The Shining, Windy is reading the

1601
01:39:05,079 --> 01:39:08,520
book by an intelligence officer named J. D. Salinger called

1602
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,239
Catcher in the Ryn. If you want to talk about initiations,

1603
01:39:13,239 --> 01:39:17,439
that's what this book is really about. And Joe Otwell

1604
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:22,479
really breaks that down perfectly within our movie. He's basically

1605
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,239
an expert on this book and what the book actually

1606
01:39:26,279 --> 01:39:28,199
really means. And I don't want to ruin that or

1607
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:31,560
spoil that, so you'll just you'll have to watch our

1608
01:39:32,039 --> 01:39:35,800
documentary to get the full context of exactly what this

1609
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:39,079
book means. But several people have put together that this

1610
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:45,000
book is an MK ultra style mind control assassin trigger

1611
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:49,199
because it was found on the scene of two major

1612
01:39:49,239 --> 01:39:54,039
assassinations that happened within a year of the release of

1613
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:59,399
The Shining. So how did cubric know to put this

1614
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,520
book in the movie?

1615
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 3: You know, the Ronald Reagan guy, he has a YouTube channel.

1616
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:09,159
You know, he's all right, he's out. Yeah, the what's

1617
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:14,279
the dude's name, Ronald Reagan Hinckley, Hinckley, Yeah, Hinckley. He's

1618
01:40:14,319 --> 01:40:17,880
got a YouTube channel. Bro, he's got more subscribers than

1619
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:24,199
I do. So Hinckley YouTube channel, let's hear. Yeah, you

1620
01:40:24,199 --> 01:40:26,560
can find him on there and he like plays guitar

1621
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:27,560
and stuff like that.

1622
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't know that I didn't know that he'd

1623
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,520
been a lot out of prison.

1624
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,079
Speaker 3: John Hinckley.

1625
01:40:37,039 --> 01:40:38,359
Speaker 5: Junior.

1626
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:42,399
Speaker 3: So he's got forty one point two thousand subscribers and

1627
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,359
his last video was two months ago. I guess he's

1628
01:40:46,399 --> 01:40:49,159
working on a new documentary, he says, John Hinckley talks

1629
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:53,479
about new documentary. Bro, it's him.

1630
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,399
Speaker 5: He lives in Williamsburg.

1631
01:40:56,399 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, he's out. Bro, he's out, and he's he's

1632
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,279
doing this thing on YouTube. Bro.

1633
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:11,319
Speaker 5: That's wild. Well that adds a whole other layer. Dude,

1634
01:41:11,319 --> 01:41:13,439
we need to we need to get him on for

1635
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,000
the director's cut of the Clockwork Shining. Bro.

1636
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 3: Uh Oh. I don't know, man, he might be one

1637
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,079
of them.

1638
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,520
Speaker 5: But that was found on the scene of the stempted

1639
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,039
assassination of Ronald Reagan. It was also found on the

1640
01:41:28,039 --> 01:41:33,279
scene of the assassination of with Mark David Chapman and

1641
01:41:33,319 --> 01:41:40,399
the John H. John Lennon murder. After Mark David Chapman

1642
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:46,239
had killed John Lennon, he said on the curb, opened

1643
01:41:46,279 --> 01:41:48,279
up the book and started reading Catcher in the Right

1644
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:53,960
And in the court proceeding of the prosecution of Mark

1645
01:41:54,039 --> 01:41:56,840
David Chapman, he stood up and asked his defense. He said,

1646
01:41:58,199 --> 01:41:59,880
if you want to know why I did it, all

1647
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:01,760
you got to do is read the book Catcher in

1648
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,960
the Rye. And then later on a psychiatrist went to

1649
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:09,960
visit Mark David Chaiptman in prison a couple of years later,

1650
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,239
which that is this quote is in this book that

1651
01:42:14,319 --> 01:42:21,680
I have called the one hundred Most Infamous Criminals. It

1652
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,239
said that whenever the therapist, the psychiatrist went to visit

1653
01:42:26,279 --> 01:42:29,239
Mark David Chapman in prison, he was still a couple

1654
01:42:29,279 --> 01:42:32,039
of years later, he was still reading Catcher in the Rye.

1655
01:42:33,399 --> 01:42:39,520
So it's been identified as a mind control Mantorian style

1656
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:45,439
candidate trigger. And Jock is a writer within the movie

1657
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:50,680
The Shining and uh, it's a high it's it's probably

1658
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:56,159
it's his book that when he's reading, let me get

1659
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:56,920
to the next.

1660
01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 3: So it makes you wonder what they're seeing after they've

1661
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,239
been put through whatever process that they're put through, where

1662
01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:07,439
the book takes on a whole different meaning to them,

1663
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,840
right because he says, read that book and you'll find

1664
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,239
all the answers you'll need as to why that's wild, dude,

1665
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:17,159
super wild.

1666
01:43:17,239 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 5: And then later on Jack is doing a psychic driving.

1667
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:28,119
He's basically being programmed to commit murder. Within the movie,

1668
01:43:28,119 --> 01:43:30,680
he's writing the same sentence over and over and over again.

1669
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:34,279
And then you have sir Han Sirhan, which killed and

1670
01:43:34,399 --> 01:43:39,600
murdered RFK in nineteen sixty eight, and the exact same

1671
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:44,319
thing was happening to Sir Hans sir Haan his notebook

1672
01:43:44,399 --> 01:43:48,560
was discovered after the assassination. He was just writing out

1673
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,640
RFK must die, RFK ust die over and over and

1674
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,600
over again, which is a psyche driving technique. So Jack

1675
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:59,720
within the Shining is doing exactly what Sir Hans Sirhan

1676
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:05,920
was doing before he murdered RFK. Jack is doing his

1677
01:44:06,039 --> 01:44:09,199
own version of that within the Shining. And when Wendy

1678
01:44:09,279 --> 01:44:12,039
comes in and finds out that he's not actually writing

1679
01:44:12,079 --> 01:44:15,199
a novel anymore, he's just writing the same sentence over

1680
01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:19,920
and over again, Jack becomes triggered and tries to kill Wendy.

1681
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:26,560
He wants to do violence. This is another really interesting

1682
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:31,920
continuity error within the Shining, which is when Jack is

1683
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,520
going after Windy in their apartment upstairs, he breaks He

1684
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:41,359
only breaks down one panel of the door, which is

1685
01:44:41,399 --> 01:44:46,279
the right hand side panel of the door. He smashes

1686
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:48,560
in with an axe and he put his face through

1687
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,920
the door panel and says the famous line here is Johnny. Well,

1688
01:44:53,079 --> 01:44:58,600
whenever Hollerin pulls up in the snowmobile after he had

1689
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:03,039
received the telepathic communications from Danny that something was wrong

1690
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:05,880
up at the overlook, he gets in the snowmobile. He

1691
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,960
flies in from Florida, which is another really strange thing

1692
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,960
because it's supposed to have been a really heavy snowstorm

1693
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,159
that was coming down during this very time, But yet

1694
01:45:14,159 --> 01:45:16,560
when he's on the plane it's all sunny skies. He's

1695
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,159
somehow able to get a flight whenever the newscaster said

1696
01:45:19,159 --> 01:45:23,800
that all flights were canceled. He just pour your wormhold

1697
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,840
right into Colorado, right into the overlook. But he gets

1698
01:45:28,039 --> 01:45:33,800
whenever Jack hears the snowmobile the snow cat coming up

1699
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,960
the mountain to the hotel, and Jack turns around, both

1700
01:45:38,039 --> 01:45:43,439
panels of the door have been destroyed. When we only

1701
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,760
seen him knock out one panel. This is a really

1702
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:53,880
obvious one that I didn't know. I don't even know

1703
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,159
how people hasn't even really seen this one. This one's

1704
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:02,840
so ridiculously obvious. So whenever Howard is giving Wendy and

1705
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:08,279
Danny a tour of the overlook, this is the freezer

1706
01:46:08,359 --> 01:46:12,079
room right here. So when he goes to open the

1707
01:46:12,079 --> 01:46:15,600
freezer room, look where the handle is. The handle is

1708
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:19,399
on the right side of the door. So they walk

1709
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:23,399
into the freezer room. And then when they walk out

1710
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,960
of the freezer room, this is the shot of them

1711
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:30,800
walking out exiting the freezer room. The handle is on

1712
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:36,439
the opposite side of the door and the background is

1713
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:37,600
completely different.

1714
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't know about that one, dude, Like,

1715
01:46:42,199 --> 01:46:47,159
what can you even say like that? That's what I'm saying.

1716
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,479
It's got to be intentional as to what he was

1717
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:50,239
trying to get at.

1718
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,319
Speaker 5: Intentional. I mean, this is a completely different set, dude,

1719
01:46:56,239 --> 01:46:58,800
It completely ever set. I mean the first photo before

1720
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,760
they go into the freezer room, it looks like they're

1721
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,000
right outside of the kitchen. This is the kitchen area.

1722
01:47:04,079 --> 01:47:07,479
That's the stove right there, and this is the top

1723
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:11,199
of the fan of the stove, and there's a chalkboard

1724
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:15,159
in behind him. There's a table rolling table here that

1725
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:17,479
has plates on it and like looks like cups and

1726
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,880
holders and shit. And then then when they exit, none

1727
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:25,760
of that's there. It's all gone, and there's it's an exit.

1728
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,279
There's a two double doors there, there's a fire alarm

1729
01:47:29,359 --> 01:47:32,800
on the right hand side door. The chalkboard is gone.

1730
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,119
It's a completely different set, but it's all in the

1731
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:36,760
same scene.

1732
01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:42,319
Speaker 3: That's why it's a clockwork or well, you put the

1733
01:47:42,319 --> 01:47:46,319
clockwork shigme, but the clockwork shining right. It's all about

1734
01:47:46,319 --> 01:47:51,239
the manipulation of time, dilation of time. They're they're traveling

1735
01:47:51,279 --> 01:47:52,840
through time throughout this entire movie.

1736
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 5: Bro time travel dude. This is another one that's really interesting.

1737
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,439
So whenever Jack goes into the breakdown the once he

1738
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,920
breaks down the first door, which is the entrance into

1739
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,840
their apartment that they're staying at for the winner, and

1740
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,439
he's going toward the other door to break it down

1741
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,439
to put us out there and say, here's Johnny. When

1742
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:20,079
Windy and Danny first goes into the bathroom, the light

1743
01:48:20,199 --> 01:48:23,880
on the table has a crooked lamp shade, and then

1744
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,840
when Jack walks in just a few seconds later, the

1745
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:27,800
lamp shade is straight.

1746
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, they fixed it. They opened the door real quick

1747
01:48:32,199 --> 01:48:33,680
and just fixed it and then put it back.

1748
01:48:40,319 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 7: Wild.

1749
01:48:41,079 --> 01:48:45,119
Speaker 5: Um, this one, this one's the banger. This is a

1750
01:48:45,159 --> 01:48:50,359
big daddy. So the first time that anything strange happens

1751
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,920
at the overlook. Well, really anything strange happens in the

1752
01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:57,880
entire movie is whenever Danny sees the twins in the

1753
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,600
game's room and then the back in corner, there's a

1754
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:06,159
poster on the wall that says the word monarch underneath

1755
01:49:06,199 --> 01:49:11,560
and here have it enlarged here monarch, and people have

1756
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,840
it wasn't the first person to see this poster, but

1757
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:19,840
I'm the first person to get the meaning correct. People

1758
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:25,800
have said that this is the posters of a ski

1759
01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:33,399
guy's skiing, which resembles like a minotaur and that cubic hash,

1760
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:37,439
you know, minotaur symbolism throughout all of his movies, which

1761
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,520
kind of does make He does do that. It's called

1762
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:44,399
the cubic stare. Alex from the Clockwork Orange does that

1763
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,840
cubic stare. Jack does the cubic stare whenever he's looking

1764
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:53,079
out the window at Windy and Danny within the Shining Cure.

1765
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,399
Does that mean you can google it really quickly. It's

1766
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,000
also in full full metal jacket. It's just when they're

1767
01:50:00,079 --> 01:50:04,319
doing that whenever. You know, Jack does it a couple

1768
01:50:04,319 --> 01:50:07,079
of times throughout the Shininess where they're kind of like

1769
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:09,800
looking down in their eyes or like like looking up

1770
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:15,039
and then the it's dubbed as the Kubrick's there. But

1771
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,760
none of them have ever mentioned the word underneath the poster,

1772
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,680
which is the most important part of the entire poster,

1773
01:50:23,319 --> 01:50:28,920
which says Monarch and relates to Monarch mk Ultra. Cubert

1774
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,359
could have put anything in the background of the shot.

1775
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:33,239
It could have been whatever he wanted it to be,

1776
01:50:33,319 --> 01:50:37,840
but no, he's got a poster back there that says Monarch,

1777
01:50:39,159 --> 01:50:41,920
and no one has ever commented on that actual name.

1778
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,319
They study the the what's in the poster and they

1779
01:50:45,359 --> 01:50:49,640
don't say what monarch actually means, and it's Monarch mk

1780
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,199
Ultra mind Control. And we have Kathy O'Brien in our movie,

1781
01:50:53,239 --> 01:50:57,800
which is a Monarch MK Ultra mind Control survivor, and

1782
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:02,199
she gives her testimony in Our Home of the abuse

1783
01:51:02,279 --> 01:51:05,680
and the everything that she went through within the mk

1784
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,039
Ultra Monarch program.

1785
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:11,239
Speaker 3: The Minotaur connection is a really interesting one because I've

1786
01:51:11,279 --> 01:51:15,920
talked about it. It's linked back to essentially the Labyrinth, right,

1787
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,600
and you talked about the Labyrinth that or the maze

1788
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,520
at the beginning, that's there one second and not there

1789
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:27,239
the next. Well, the Minotaur story in mythology is about

1790
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:30,479
again trapping the I believe the Minotaur and it's linked

1791
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:33,039
I've talked about it before where it's linked to the

1792
01:51:33,079 --> 01:51:40,000
word talisman and essentially about the talismato, which are essentially

1793
01:51:40,119 --> 01:51:45,399
to manipulate reality. So I'm gonna go with my interpretation

1794
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,000
of the shining and the clockwork shining that it's all

1795
01:51:49,039 --> 01:51:53,159
about different realities. Bro, I'm gonna go with that one.

1796
01:51:53,359 --> 01:51:54,880
They were traveling through space and time.

1797
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 5: Oh dude, it can't be that, bro, because.

1798
01:51:59,399 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 3: Space and time speaking, gig.

1799
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 5: Space isn't even real. Dude, what are you talking about? Dude?

1800
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,119
You gotta watch. Gotta watch.

1801
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 4: Is fake and ge there you go.

1802
01:52:17,399 --> 01:52:22,359
Speaker 5: Hell yes, and absolutely, dude, no one can argue with it. Dude,

1803
01:52:22,399 --> 01:52:24,880
there's one hundred infallible.

1804
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 3: Fake.

1805
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 5: But you should watch From. I know I'm the show From.

1806
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm gonna do it. I talked to my friend

1807
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,680
Emily Moyer about it. She's gonna watch it too, So

1808
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,399
I told her that we needed if we do an

1809
01:52:37,399 --> 01:52:39,119
episode on that, we have to have you on it

1810
01:52:39,159 --> 01:52:41,960
because you're the one that told me about From.

1811
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 5: So they just wrapped up the third season, bro, and

1812
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:50,920
it's bro. I don't even want to bro. I just

1813
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,399
gotta watch it, dude. Just trust me, just just like

1814
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:55,840
you trust me by watching caw to Do cawdo Lake.

1815
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,960
Trust me and watch from dude one Hondo.

1816
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:04,039
Speaker 3: To dude, We'll watch it from I promise to get.

1817
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,199
Speaker 5: In on the from action. We got to keep this

1818
01:53:06,279 --> 01:53:11,039
freaking series alive, bro, We got to keep it alive, dude. Okay,

1819
01:53:11,079 --> 01:53:15,680
So this one people have brought up before that it's

1820
01:53:16,039 --> 01:53:19,640
at the end of the movie when the picture on

1821
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:25,760
the wall fades to a shot of Jack Nicholson and

1822
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,880
at the bottom of the photo says July fourth, nineteen

1823
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:32,359
twenty one. When the photo fades from the far away

1824
01:53:32,399 --> 01:53:35,880
shot to the close up shot, you can see right

1825
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:43,039
here there's a little tiny Hitler mustache. It's forming on

1826
01:53:44,039 --> 01:53:48,680
Jack's face right where my cursor is, which then relates

1827
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,520
to what I found. No one has ever seen this before,

1828
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,520
and it's in our film. It's also in the trailer,

1829
01:53:58,079 --> 01:54:03,439
which is the Nazi swastika imprinted into the wall in

1830
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:11,239
the background of the gold Room, which ties into you know,

1831
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:17,680
Project paper Clip and MK Ultra programs and the programs

1832
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:23,680
first starting in Nazi Germany experiments on twins. There's supposedly

1833
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,720
twins in the movie though they're not really actually twins,

1834
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,800
like it's so wild. Did the connections to all that

1835
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:38,199
with Joseph Mangela and the connection to the all the

1836
01:54:38,279 --> 01:54:42,520
Nazi stuff. So that is the end of the presentation,

1837
01:54:43,399 --> 01:54:47,800
and there's a lot more than I will probably be

1838
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,960
adding for future shows, but those are the big main ones,

1839
01:54:52,079 --> 01:54:54,920
and a lot of those aren't even in the movie,

1840
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:59,359
so you're getting a special special taste.

1841
01:54:59,039 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, I love it. It's funny. One of the

1842
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:08,239
last shout out to Johnny one of the last comments

1843
01:55:08,279 --> 01:55:10,720
on one of my YouTube videos is trust me Bro.

1844
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,199
You were like, trust me dude. Watch the from and

1845
01:55:13,439 --> 01:55:15,800
trust me Bro. You know Cadillac and all that stuff.

1846
01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:20,199
So definitely, I'll post the links down in the description.

1847
01:55:20,319 --> 01:55:22,720
Everyone go check out the documentary. I enjoyed it. I'm

1848
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,000
not just saying that because because you're my friend writer.

1849
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:28,920
I legitimately enjoyed the documentary. I would tell you if

1850
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,039
it was garbage, but it was. It was really well

1851
01:55:31,039 --> 01:55:33,920
done and I enjoyed it. And I'm gonna watch the

1852
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,800
movie again. I haven't seen it in years. I mean

1853
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,279
it's been years since I lastaw, So I'm gonna watch

1854
01:55:41,319 --> 01:55:46,199
it and now I'm sure I saw the movie before

1855
01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:50,279
I was even into like podcasting and all this weird stuff.

1856
01:55:50,279 --> 01:55:52,479
But I'm gonna watch it from that perspective of like

1857
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,640
keeping an eye out for all these different discrepancies and

1858
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,840
Easter eggs if you will that you're put in there.

1859
01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:05,079
So that and I'm gonna watch from We're gonna do

1860
01:56:05,079 --> 01:56:08,199
an episode on that with Emily Moyer and yeah, dude,

1861
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:10,640
where can people find you? Bro? This is great?

1862
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 5: Thanks brother, thanks for having me on. Really appreciate its,

1863
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,079
love the conversation. Always fun being on the show with you.

1864
01:56:17,359 --> 01:56:19,560
And yeah, let's do the from Let's do the from

1865
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:23,840
thing because I wanted to do it for each episode

1866
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,800
of this new season, but nobody that has a show

1867
01:56:28,119 --> 01:56:31,479
like this is watching it, so I was like kind

1868
01:56:31,479 --> 01:56:34,039
of bummed about it. But you'll be good In twenty

1869
01:56:34,119 --> 01:56:37,800
twenty six, whenever the fourth season comes out, maybe we

1870
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,359
can do a show for each new episode. But you

1871
01:56:41,359 --> 01:56:43,600
can find me on Rais by Giants on YouTube and

1872
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,479
and all podcast platforms on rock Fan and if you'd

1873
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,640
like to reach out personally, if you have any questions

1874
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:52,119
or if you just want to, you know, chat about

1875
01:56:52,119 --> 01:56:55,399
the shining, I'm always up forward or any questions that

1876
01:56:55,479 --> 01:56:59,399
you have. You can contact me on x Twitter Raised

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by Giants eight and on Instagram at Raised by Giants

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pod and watch my documentary at Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime.

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Just type that bad Boy into the Amazon Prime Video

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app or click the link in the description because I

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think we're going to have a link in there. And

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thank you again, Juan really appreciated, and thanks everyone that

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has been that is watched and listened. And also if

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you watch the movie and you really like it and

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you've purchased it or rented it, I highly recommend purchasing it.

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It's just a few more dollars than renting it and

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it really helps us out more. But if you could

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leave and if you liked it, of course, if you

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could leave a rating and a review, it helps out

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on the on the Amazon Prime app and puts us

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more in the ranking. So thank you guys, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: One. Did you see my review of it? Yeah? Did

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you see it? Did it go through it?

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Speaker 5: Uh? What did you put it under? What? What? What

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name did you put it under? Because sometimes like people

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don't have the they don't use their like a tag

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or they don't put their actual name in the thing,

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and sometimes Amazon doesn't let them and it says, uh,

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Amazon customer.

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Speaker 3: It didn't let it didn't let me. It just I

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just did their review.

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Speaker 5: Which which one were you? What? What was your header?

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Speaker 3: I think it was like very fascinating deep dive into

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Stanley Kubrick or something like that. Something earlier.

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Speaker 5: Let's see.

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Speaker 3: I left you. I left you a special little review there.

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Let me see what's up or not? I can't even

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see the reviews.

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Speaker 5: Stunningly great documentary The Dead that was deep into a

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movie classic.

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Speaker 3: No read our reviews, see of minds up yet.

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Speaker 5: Broll brilliant much much watch documentary.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not even up yet. That's gay.

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Speaker 5: Well sometimes it takes like a uh for people that

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have submitted a review. It tells them that they gotta

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wait like like sometimes a week.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, well you'll see it to go through. You'll

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know it's me, bro, You'll know.

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Speaker 5: It's me, so okay, I'll definitely know.

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Speaker 3: Make sure to check out the show on social media

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at the One on One Podcast, tjwww dot tj OJP

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dot com, Patreon dot com, slash the One on One Podcast,

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all that good stuff. Make sure to check out the

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documentary I'm gonna post send me the link bro that

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you want in the description for people to click directly

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to it. And you have Twitch dot tv Slash one

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on one podcast lab every Tuesday night. If you're into

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that sort of stuff and there's always everyone, make sure

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to have a good one, stay safe, love each other,

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and h give yours.

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