Speaker 1: All right, well, yeah, we are live. Welcome to six
Speaker 1: year Agenda.
Speaker 2: I'm your host, Andrew, and I'm here to talk about
Speaker 2: what they won't. And today we have a special guest,
Speaker 2: Alana Friedland.
Speaker 1: She's a author.
Speaker 2: He's written about some great topics that I wouldn't call
Speaker 2: them great, but some serious and important topics that we've
Speaker 2: spoken about plenty on here as well. But she's got
Speaker 2: plenty of good research to give us some data and
Speaker 2: details about kind of the theories we speak about. So
Speaker 2: welcome on, Alana, and very excited to have you on.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm back and track. I
Speaker 3: went off from radio interviews for six months because I
Speaker 3: was writing my fifth book on this topic, geoengineering and
Speaker 3: synthetic Biology. So this is only the second show I've
Speaker 3: done since I took those six months off. I felt
Speaker 3: kind of sheepish about it. Actually felt like I was
Speaker 3: I should be up and Adam. But you know, when
Speaker 3: you're writing a book. I say this to people who say, oh,
Speaker 3: I write too well, you may write, but do you
Speaker 3: write books, because it's a whole other ballgame between a
Speaker 3: good paragraph or even a good essay or short story
Speaker 3: and writing an entire book, because you're basically the architect
Speaker 3: and the builder. So you know, I've put my time
Speaker 3: in and the anuscript has been submitted and now I'm
Speaker 3: sort of tidying up before the next project.
Speaker 1: Well that's amazing. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I could imagine that.
Speaker 2: You know, I've got a lot of research that I've
Speaker 2: kind of been gathering, and you know, eventually I'm want
Speaker 2: to write a book as well, and I can tell
Speaker 2: just like yesterday, actually I happen to outline the topics
Speaker 2: I want to go over, which ended up being so long,
Speaker 2: you know, because it all kind of delves into each other.
Speaker 2: It's so much, so I was like, well, how can
Speaker 2: I section this up? So it is a lot just
Speaker 2: the outlining and then of course, like as you said,
Speaker 2: the architecture of it, and then of course the actual
Speaker 2: writing of each detail.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could take a lot of a bandwidth.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know, yes, and I highly recommend Andrew
Speaker 3: that you just write. I don't do outlines.
Speaker 1: I never.
Speaker 3: I consider that no offense, but I consider that a
Speaker 3: male a male approach to writing. What I do is
Speaker 3: I take the first thing that it is like front
Speaker 3: and center in my mind, and I throw some energy
Speaker 3: into that, write something up that usually will tumble something else.
Speaker 3: Then I go to that, and pretty soon I've got
Speaker 3: all these sections written, all these different sections, and it
Speaker 3: then the book begins to organize itself. And I really
Speaker 3: like that approach because it's more organic. It's not just
Speaker 3: out of your head, it's more out of the story itself.
Speaker 3: I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've definitely I know what you talked about, and
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna I'll try that for sure. I haven't
Speaker 2: gotten into the writing process too hard yet, so I
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: You're pretty young, you know, Yes, you've got some miles
Speaker 3: to go to gather more and more and more. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've been at this just briefly. I'm a sixties person,
Speaker 3: you know. I came of age in the sixties when
Speaker 3: the street riots were going on and our three heroes
Speaker 3: of my generation were all murdered by the CIA. And
Speaker 3: you know, I've a lot of people have said, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was me when I was young, and I've grown
Speaker 3: up since then. Well, I guess I haven't grown up
Speaker 3: because I've just gone deeper and deeper and deeper into
Speaker 3: what I call the basement where the real story has
Speaker 3: been hidden and un tucked away, and bringing that out
Speaker 3: for people to understand. I think now I can honestly
Speaker 3: say you've probably noticed. It seems to me that all
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theories that's the CIA term that they came
Speaker 3: up with when Kennedy was killed, all the conspiracy theories
Speaker 3: are out in the open now. I mean I can't
Speaker 3: I can't think of any that I was talking about
Speaker 3: twenty thirty years ago that are still hidden. And now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, are they going to just still have
Speaker 3: to make up that same old story about conspiracy theory
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, or are they finally going to look
Speaker 3: at what that really is about about some people not
Speaker 3: being satisfied with the cover story and going digging on
Speaker 3: their own. I don't know, but it's it's really remarkable
Speaker 3: to me because I don't hear a lot about that anymore,
Speaker 3: And it seems that a lot of people even respect
Speaker 3: me now, whereas for years and years I was not
Speaker 3: respected at all. I was considered a conspiracy theorist and
Speaker 3: wasting my good talents on BS. And you know, I
Speaker 3: knew that it was not at all that, but you're
Speaker 3: pretty lonely when you set out and everybody's into consensus.
Speaker 3: It's the concer census that we have to be cautious of.
Speaker 3: It's not so much that I worry all that much
Speaker 3: about the CIA and their minions that are digging into
Speaker 3: all of our life, and you know, now they have
Speaker 3: the digital concept to take over our minds and our computers.
Speaker 3: It's more, don't be afraid of consensus and going against
Speaker 3: it because most people don't know much about this stuff.
Speaker 3: They want to just have a life, pay their mortgage,
Speaker 3: feed their kids, go to work, keep everything. I'll keep
Speaker 3: all the balls in the air, and they don't really
Speaker 3: want to know all that much to where you know,
Speaker 3: it could be dangerous, and there haven't been moments of
Speaker 3: danger for me. But I am so happy that in
Speaker 3: the sixties we had all that stuff happening and we
Speaker 3: all knewst the vanguard. Did we knew that that there
Speaker 3: were these were all psyops. They were we were having
Speaker 3: to experience one blow after another to our generation of
Speaker 3: pretty pretty creative people and people who didn't buy cheap.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm very happy that I had that
Speaker 3: because it has held me in good stead. Now that
Speaker 3: I'm getting older and I'm writing books that I think
Speaker 3: will be exceedingly important in the future, particularly the ones
Speaker 3: you've asked about regarding geoengineering, because this is huge and
Speaker 3: most people have no idea, no idea how huge it is.
Speaker 2: It is, and you know, I want to get that's. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: I want to comment on the conspiracies becoming mainstream. I
Speaker 2: have this kind of theory that I've been working on
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I call it exposure gate.
Speaker 2: It's kind of pizza Gate, right, Watergate, exposure gate, where
Speaker 2: the deep state is actually exposing itself, the corruption is
Speaker 2: all being unearthed, and they're using that as a reactionary
Speaker 2: kind of you know, movement to kind of aim it
Speaker 2: at you know, our presidency and you know the way
Speaker 2: we do our government and possibly rein you know, in
Speaker 2: state something different. Possibly AI is government, and so that's
Speaker 2: not you know, AI is not going to blackmail people
Speaker 2: or you know, things like that, even though they've shown
Speaker 2: that their studies that it will blackmail people in order
Speaker 2: to keep itself running.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to use that as kind of
Speaker 2: a replacement system, this technocratic system, and be like, look,
Speaker 2: all these people are corrupt, the system doesn't work, Let's
Speaker 2: use this new one.
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot kind of that gets into it.
Speaker 2: But I think that's got a lot to do with
Speaker 2: this movement into what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're familiar with Michael Aquino.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, a familiar He wrote a book.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar with this book. I just bought
Speaker 2: all three of the books he wrote, Mind War. He
Speaker 2: wrote Mind War, Mind Star, and Find Far. These are
Speaker 2: three books and the whole thing if you read them,
Speaker 2: it's a three part blueprint for how to control man
Speaker 2: and how to generate change in the future. To generate change,
Speaker 2: you know how you want it, and so it's very
Speaker 2: important to read it, and I've been actually breaking it
Speaker 2: down on my show. But this page here, it talks
Speaker 2: about Homo electromagneticus, where he kind of talks about the
Speaker 2: fact that yes, humans are machines, were electromagnetic machines, and
Speaker 2: it talks about a lot about kind of what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about with using reactions to generate change and the ecosystem,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But this talks about what you're speaking about,
Speaker 2: which is the kind of manipulation of our systems.
Speaker 1: You know, where you synthetic biology.
Speaker 2: I had Eric come on and he talked about these
Speaker 2: fibers that are in us, and these fibers are.
Speaker 1: Fire Medic eight. Are you familiar with who that is? No,
Speaker 1: you've got to talk to him.
Speaker 3: Yes, Firemedic eight.
Speaker 1: Yes, his name's Eric E. R I C.
Speaker 2: And he's amazing. He actually was a paramedic firefighter. He
Speaker 2: did a lot of work in that field and he
Speaker 2: was finding the synthetic fibers and he wasn't in answers
Speaker 2: in the medical industry.
Speaker 1: He couldn't get anybody to speak to him about it.
Speaker 2: So he started doing independent work and he's found it everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is.
Speaker 1: And the way he describes it is that it's almost
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like a synthetic nervous system that they're
Speaker 2: trying to put over our nervous system.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a sensor system, yes, and it is definitely
Speaker 3: delivered by geoengineering. That's the main delivery system. Yeah. You're
Speaker 3: going to find it in the jabs as well, you know,
Speaker 3: the so called vaccines, but it primarily Glifford Carnicum, the
Speaker 3: scientists that I've worked with for over twenty years. He
Speaker 3: came across it in the late last millennium that would
Speaker 3: be eighteen, that would be nineteen ninety ninety eight, right,
Speaker 3: which is six six six times three by the way,
Speaker 3: and he was able to examine these fibers and see
Speaker 3: that they were all packed with synthetic biology and it
Speaker 3: all has to do with bioweapons. So yeah, one thing
Speaker 3: I don't agree with you so far, and I'll go
Speaker 3: into that, is because remember I'm from a different generation,
Speaker 3: and I was not raised with TV. I was not
Speaker 3: raised with electromagnetics. I had a real childhood of farms
Speaker 3: and conversations and you know, hanging out with people. It
Speaker 3: was not I didn't have the challenges that your generation has.
Speaker 3: I had different challenges. But I know that we are
Speaker 3: not machines. We are not electro machines. We are not biomachines.
Speaker 3: We are being turned into biomachines by the transhuman movement,
Speaker 3: which is you know, all about what Michael Aquino was
Speaker 3: talking about years and years ago. So you know, to me,
Speaker 3: the book that I just wrote, to be clear, it's
Speaker 3: called Remaining Human, Remaining Human, standing up to the transhuman
Speaker 3: nanomachine takeover of Homo sapiens. That's my working title. I
Speaker 3: don't know if if the publisher Inner Traditions is going
Speaker 3: to go for it. And that means that I'm looking
Speaker 3: at what makes us human. And then there's the electromagnetic
Speaker 3: part of us, of how our brains really operate, because
Speaker 3: we have an electromagnetic element in us, but there is
Speaker 3: sort of an assumption that not only are we simply
Speaker 3: electromagnetic as like a machine, but that we that that's
Speaker 3: somehow the definition of human. We've learned to think of
Speaker 3: our brains as a machine. All these things that we've
Speaker 3: picked up from the conditioning that we're all undergoing all
Speaker 3: the time. We have to really check all that out.
Speaker 3: We cannot buy cheap there because they want us to
Speaker 3: think like machines. They want us to not be individuals.
Speaker 3: And I'm from the generation that individualism and an individuality
Speaker 3: was like primary, except that we too were being influenced
Speaker 3: by media. We had people like Marshall mccluan, a linguist
Speaker 3: who was telling us beware, beware of the media, because
Speaker 3: you know you're being mediated. And if you want to
Speaker 3: stay as an individual and you want to work on
Speaker 3: becoming a true individual that can stand up against the
Speaker 3: nanomachine takeover. You're going to have to really examine things
Speaker 3: that are coming to you seemingly, effortlessly, seemingly in the environment,
Speaker 3: because that's exactly how we were approached. And it took
Speaker 3: years for people to awaken to the fact that, Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: the CIA, it was you know, the three little magic initials.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that they were like trying to kill us
Speaker 3: or or you know, breaking into our homes or satelliting
Speaker 3: over us. It was that they were creating an environment,
Speaker 3: a social environment, a media environment, even a physical environment.
Speaker 3: They were creating an environment that was slowly changing our
Speaker 3: self conception as human beings. And that's really what I
Speaker 3: think I'm most known for. Yeah, I write about geoengineering,
Speaker 3: but what I bring to the table when I'm talking
Speaker 3: about just about anything. I mean, I spent ten years
Speaker 3: on MK Ultra in order to understand what it was.
Speaker 3: And I now know quite a few MK ultra people
Speaker 3: who you know, who've told me their story, and some
Speaker 3: of them are doing well, some of them aren't. Is that,
Speaker 3: you know, I stand for the human being. I don't
Speaker 3: want to be an angel. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: a devil. I don't want to be one or the other.
Speaker 3: I want to be that one who stands in the
Speaker 3: middle and concentrates on being the individual that I am.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I am not just an intellect.
Speaker 3: I am something else. Now I could bring in concepts
Speaker 3: from Rudolph Steiner. Are you familiar with him?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, the Age of Raman and everything as that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a big Steiner person. I have been
Speaker 3: for forty five years. I would say I have studied
Speaker 3: his work. It's not that he's my guru or I
Speaker 3: always say, I like my guru's dead, because then I
Speaker 3: can just read their their thoughts and be free of
Speaker 3: their charisma and you know, and and not fall down
Speaker 3: and worship them. And that's how I feel about Steiner.
Speaker 3: He's my He's my trail guide, and he is the
Speaker 3: one that talks very much about we are. Yes, we
Speaker 3: have an electro electromagnetic component. And I assume since you
Speaker 3: like him, you know about the double and the doppelganger.
Speaker 3: You know that we all have one in us, and
Speaker 3: it's the Doppelganger's presence in my not just my physical body,
Speaker 3: but my spiritual bodies as well, because I have three
Speaker 3: of those. The Doppelganger's presence is electromagnetic, and it is
Speaker 3: the Doppelganger that avails me of being able to unlock
Speaker 3: things with my brain and the intellect. But I myself
Speaker 3: also have something very in common with making. Like let's
Speaker 3: take something like alima being. You know, a lima bean
Speaker 3: grows because it's connected to the etheric force of this planet.
Speaker 3: You put a into the earth and boom, suddenly you've
Speaker 3: got green shoots coming out, and you're gonna have fruit,
Speaker 3: You're gonna have vegetables, You're gonna have things that will
Speaker 3: nourish animals and humans. And that etheric substance of the
Speaker 3: Earth is in my body as well. I tend to
Speaker 3: think of myself primarily as an etheric being with a
Speaker 3: in my case, good intellect. I have a very good
Speaker 3: intellect and I've trained it. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 3: like a dog, like a pedigree dog now not just
Speaker 3: you know, just a poi dog as we used to
Speaker 3: call them when I lived in Hawaii. No, I am
Speaker 3: able to utilize my intellect, but with that soul and
Speaker 3: heart connection in it, and I used to not have
Speaker 3: that when I was in university. I always did well
Speaker 3: in university, got a's and stuff, but I was I was.
Speaker 3: My thinking was kind of dead, you know, it was
Speaker 3: kind of in lockstep of some sort. I knew what
Speaker 3: would what would get the good grades, and I could perform.
Speaker 3: I was like a circus dog myself. But then I
Speaker 3: began to read very widely. In the sixties, we had
Speaker 3: lots of lots of spiritual stuff going on, and you know,
Speaker 3: you read Indian gurus, you read Gurjeef, read all these
Speaker 3: really primo thinkers, and you can see where your thinking
Speaker 3: needs to be resurrected in some way from the abstracting
Speaker 3: that you've been taught to do. And that's that's where
Speaker 3: Steiner comes in for me. He saved me with that.
Speaker 3: And so in this book coming out next, I mean
Speaker 3: I mentioned him in just about every book, but this
Speaker 3: book coming out now. My publisher, Inner Traditions, they are
Speaker 3: known for years ago. Oh they published two books that
Speaker 3: I remember, I don't know, I'm sure there were more.
Speaker 3: They were interested in the relationship of spirit and science,
Speaker 3: and so they published The Dolla Physics that was one
Speaker 3: of them, terrific book, and the Dancing Wouli Masters and
Speaker 3: these two books were a combination of spirituality and physics,
Speaker 3: and that's what this publisher does. And this is the
Speaker 3: only time in my life, Andrew, and I'm sure it
Speaker 3: won't happen again, of where a publisher came looking for me.
Speaker 3: And that really felt good because I'd already published two
Speaker 3: three books and so now I'm publishing with inner traditions
Speaker 3: because they appreciate what I what and how I write
Speaker 3: about spirit and science, because the science of our day
Speaker 3: treats the earth like its dad, treats us like we're
Speaker 3: just nodes on an AI composite. And I want I
Speaker 3: want a science that lives and breathes with what my
Speaker 3: humanity lives and breathes with, which for me is the ether.
Speaker 3: Does that make.
Speaker 1: Sense, Absolutely, yes it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautifully eloquently said. Though, Yeah, very nice. You know,
Speaker 2: I agree with that, and you know, you you kind
Speaker 2: of dispelled the difference between say Luciferian doctrine and Rudolph
Speaker 2: Steiner's doctrine, which some people would like to point to
Speaker 2: that is like Luciferian, and I disagree.
Speaker 1: I think that he's actually he's he talks about.
Speaker 2: How these people that want to like become God with
Speaker 2: these similar you know, channeling, you know, doing similar things
Speaker 2: what he did, but taking it to the next place.
Speaker 1: And so there's a difference.
Speaker 2: And I love how you just eloquently said that, you
Speaker 2: kind of very much exprest.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. And and it takes one to know one.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've studied enough that you have your own
Speaker 3: perception is Oh no, he's no Luciferian, no way. And
Speaker 3: regarding channeling, let me just say a word about that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's not. He doesn't channel. He has he had the
Speaker 3: plus and minus of being born clairvoyant. And so for him,
Speaker 3: I think his main challenge up into his twenties, knowing
Speaker 3: his biography as I do, was to really dig in
Speaker 3: here on planet Earth and not just be carried by
Speaker 3: his atavism. The atavistic capabilities that he had he was
Speaker 3: born with. I'm the granddaughter of a of a Romanian
Speaker 3: gypsy and she was clairvoyant. And I think for her
Speaker 3: it was it was something that gypsies inherit because the
Speaker 3: bloodline is it goes on forever. But but in her case,
Speaker 3: she was a peasant woman. She didn't even read. She
Speaker 3: she could read events that were coming up and and
Speaker 3: so she had that old intelligence that is now called outavism.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And but what we have is we have this wonderful
Speaker 3: neo cortex that uh that we've we haven't always had it,
Speaker 3: it's only really been developing for several centuries. Uh. And
Speaker 3: as it developed, our our natural clairvoyance and those skills
Speaker 3: that my grandmother had, they began to evaporate. Because the
Speaker 3: the mind, the cortex is here to help us really
Speaker 3: cognize and relate to this planet. That's what we came for.
Speaker 3: We didn't come to be airy fairy and float around
Speaker 3: and you have nice feelings. No, we came to understand
Speaker 3: and cognize what's going on here. And that you know, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: for many people, it's one thing to be able to
Speaker 3: nail something that is physical and you can talk about
Speaker 3: in scientific language, you can talk about it in pragmatic language.
Speaker 3: But to understand what it means and what its purpose
Speaker 3: here is, that's a different story. And that's the next
Speaker 3: thing that we're developing now. According to Rudolph Steiner, we
Speaker 3: have the intellectual soul, we have the sentient soul. We've
Speaker 3: had those for well maybe a few thousand years, and
Speaker 3: now we're getting a new kind of soul called the
Speaker 3: consciousness soul. The consciousness soul is something I'm completely committed
Speaker 3: to because it's the part of us that is pretty new,
Speaker 3: pretty clueless. I we haven't done a lot with it.
Speaker 3: We don't have a lot of muscle in it. But
Speaker 3: it is that which can look at what things mean,
Speaker 3: what they mean, not just what they are, not just
Speaker 3: give them a title. And you know, you've got a
Speaker 3: little catalog in your head and you know exactly this,
Speaker 3: that and the other, and you get all a's in university. No,
Speaker 3: it's the it's where you're looking at things and you know,
Speaker 3: like when I was standing in Berkeley during a street riot,
Speaker 3: I realized that if I continued to stand where I was,
Speaker 3: I was going to be trampled eventually. So right away
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, thinking of the crowd as
Speaker 3: this moving, huge thing moving down the street and being
Speaker 3: very influenced by different noises coming from the police and
Speaker 3: helicopters overhead and things like that. So I began to
Speaker 3: I looked at the whole situation, not just a few
Speaker 3: little things, and realized what I needed to do to
Speaker 3: stay safe and be there to witness it. So I
Speaker 3: could write about it, So that kind of thinking that
Speaker 3: goes further than just the naming of things and the
Speaker 3: concepts of things. What does it mean? Where is it going?
Speaker 3: How big is this? And I know this show is
Speaker 3: not about thinking, but.
Speaker 1: I want to establish.
Speaker 3: I want to establish that thinking is not just an
Speaker 3: intellectual exercise. That's not what I stand for. I can
Speaker 3: do the kind of thinking. Well, you'll see it in
Speaker 3: my books. You can see how I write is it's
Speaker 3: very different from most science books. But of course, when
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to go for a PhD, the
Speaker 3: first thing that came into my mind was, no, I'm
Speaker 3: not going because they're going to condition me to think
Speaker 3: in a certain way and I'm not going to have
Speaker 3: this great mind that I want that's still developing. I
Speaker 3: want to do that. I want an individual mind, not
Speaker 3: not a school mind. And that I'm so happy I
Speaker 3: did that. I don't know why I was so smart
Speaker 3: in that way. I was not so smart in some
Speaker 3: other things, but that was something that I understood. That
Speaker 3: the PhD is often the most boring person at the
Speaker 3: party unless they get stonned or you know, have some
Speaker 3: wine or something. Then they relax and the conditioning kind
Speaker 3: of lets go a little bit and they're not the
Speaker 3: hoity toity PhD or mind. And I really feel that
Speaker 3: that the school system you and I know, because we've
Speaker 3: looked into it, has been criminal for a few generations,
Speaker 3: maybe four or five six generations at least. Uh And
Speaker 3: and that's that's not that's not cool, because we need
Speaker 3: people who can really think now, particularly in that we
Speaker 3: are dealing with AI and we're dealing with people who
Speaker 3: are being used by AI, and it's very I think
Speaker 3: one of our greatest challenges that's coming up is going
Speaker 3: to be can we tell a real human being from
Speaker 3: a not real human being a transhuman? I'll call it
Speaker 3: a transhuman. And that's that's kind of what I'm looking
Speaker 3: at in this book. Remaining human is trying to give
Speaker 3: people the courage that they can develop these things. And
Speaker 3: you do not need a university education at all. In
Speaker 3: fact that it might it might not serve you.
Speaker 2: Well, oh absolutely so with real quick a couple of
Speaker 2: points on that. So the AI, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: it's causing psychosis things like that, schizophrenia within people that
Speaker 2: use these long, large language models. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're familiar with Curtis Jarvin's work.
Speaker 1: He went into.
Speaker 3: It's jarv.
Speaker 1: Y A r v I N.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's something called the accelerationist movement as what it's
Speaker 2: been labeled.
Speaker 1: But it's people like.
Speaker 2: Peter Teele who own palenteer ye who you know, pay
Speaker 2: pal mafia.
Speaker 1: So Elon Musk is kind of involved in this.
Speaker 2: Peter Tele funded jd Vance to get out of venture
Speaker 2: capitalism to go into politics because this technocratic kind of
Speaker 2: system they want to build. Well, Curtis Jarvin is kind
Speaker 2: of the philosophy behind it. He calls himself the Dark Elf,
Speaker 2: which I think is funny. I think that Elon's Dark
Speaker 2: Maga might have some toney. So he talks about this
Speaker 2: idea of the dark Enlightenment and so this is gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to go over the place, but it does. So.
Speaker 2: Kissinger just wrote a book before he died. It was
Speaker 2: called Genesis, and it talks about this humanity in the
Speaker 2: future merging with AI.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to be human? It's everything you're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: I highly recommend reading it if you haven't, because it's
Speaker 2: from these people CEO of Google Kissinger telling you what
Speaker 2: it is to be human and how essentially human must be,
Speaker 2: you'll just be an animal if you don't have the
Speaker 2: trans human upgrade.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like things like that.
Speaker 3: Kurtzweld does the same thing, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so the dark Enlightenment, I think is what is
Speaker 2: perpetuating itself through AI large language models where people are
Speaker 2: getting you know how echo chambers and algorithms they kind
Speaker 2: of tell you you're right all the time, or you
Speaker 2: know Chatcha he has been known to do that. And
Speaker 2: so I think that this is the dark Enlightenment that
Speaker 2: we're witnessing. And to your point, we need thinkers more
Speaker 2: than ever, and they seem to be trying to do,
Speaker 2: you know, make sure there isn't any.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's it's not just them that's doing it.
Speaker 3: It's our own habits as we as we subject ourselves to.
Speaker 3: There's a part of us that just maybe it's because
Speaker 3: of all the entertainment we've been played applied with, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the virtual entertainment on on TV movies, Uh,
Speaker 3: the iPhone. I don't have an iPhone, by the way,
Speaker 3: and I've never owned a TV. Uh.
Speaker 1: Those are two things.
Speaker 3: Those are two things that I recognize right away as
Speaker 3: mind control, even before I knew about MK Ultra, but
Speaker 3: I think that if we can discipline ourselves to not
Speaker 3: because once you once you start watching something and there's
Speaker 3: a director who's involved and has you know, decided it's
Speaker 3: going to show this and going to show that and
Speaker 3: not show this and not show that, then you go
Speaker 3: into alpha state and now you're passive, uh and and
Speaker 3: it's all fed into you. And this is this is
Speaker 3: a problem, and it's really why I pretty much can't watch.
Speaker 3: It isn't that I don't want to watch movies. I like,
Speaker 3: I like going into alpha state, but the part of
Speaker 3: me that is committed to what it is committed to
Speaker 3: now i e. Remaining human says no, no movies documentaries
Speaker 3: and knowing that a documentary is not true either, it's
Speaker 3: got a director, there's stuff in there that they want
Speaker 3: you to see and they don't want you to see.
Speaker 3: But you have a better chance, a less risky venture,
Speaker 3: to be able to come away with a little bit
Speaker 3: of an accurate idea of what you just watched. And
Speaker 3: particularly I mean in my case it's I'm very fortunate
Speaker 3: because I'm a huge reader, have been since I was
Speaker 3: a very small child, and so I've read lots and
Speaker 3: lots of books, and lots and lots of autobiographies and
Speaker 3: biographies of famous people. So I have a big library
Speaker 3: in my head so I can kind of compare things
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. So I think there we
Speaker 3: have to if we really want to remain human, we've
Speaker 3: got to add a little more parent yeah, to our
Speaker 3: relationship with media. It's not people that are really influencing
Speaker 3: us that much, I don't think. I think it's more
Speaker 3: the media and a lot of people. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't take drugs either. I haven't even had an aspirin
Speaker 3: since I was I don't know, thirteen maybe, and I
Speaker 3: stopped doing all drugs. I had no problem with them
Speaker 3: as far as being ethical. I understood that the problem
Speaker 3: with psychedelics was that they are all guided by a
Speaker 3: certain spiritual entity, all of them. Marijuana is LSD, is
Speaker 3: even even that where they're creating it in the lab,
Speaker 3: it has an entity that oversees it. And once there's
Speaker 3: that entity now and you're taking their substance, there's going
Speaker 3: to be a trade off that goes on between your
Speaker 3: human soul light, your beautiful, beautiful human light, and their
Speaker 3: capacity to take from you that human light. And they
Speaker 3: will give you. They will give you an awesome experience,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, you'll have that and you'll, wow,
Speaker 3: this is great. You won't be aware that it's flowing
Speaker 3: out of you unless you chance to have that ability
Speaker 3: to see and you're hanging out around some friends who
Speaker 3: are high on something and you just watch and that
Speaker 3: light just flows straight out of their chest. So you know,
Speaker 3: that's the problem to me with the drugs and why
Speaker 3: I decided at twenty one, it was my twenty first birthday,
Speaker 3: I decided I wanted my own consciousness. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to make deals with these supercharged, really highly intelligent beings
Speaker 3: that were running these psychedelics that were helping me to
Speaker 3: cross over into another way of looking. I wanted it myself.
Speaker 3: But I was glad that I had done some so
Speaker 3: that and I didn't do that much, but I did
Speaker 3: enough to see while Okay, I'm a spiritual being and
Speaker 3: I have the capacity to see into other realms, other
Speaker 3: dimensions that are going on here simultaneously, because I was
Speaker 3: lucky to have a grandmother who was a gypsy, because
Speaker 3: she told me from day one there are many realities here.
Speaker 3: You simply cannot see them, you know, And That really
Speaker 3: helped me, because I know that we are involved in
Speaker 3: a variety of realities here, which is why some of
Speaker 3: us get lost because we have no guide. We're operating
Speaker 3: pretty guideless now because all the major religions, which their
Speaker 3: job was to sort of keep us safe, give us
Speaker 3: some sort of structure to the spiritual, the soul side
Speaker 3: of us, and now they're also hardened and so so institutionalized,
Speaker 3: and they're not of any help to us anymore.
Speaker 1: Really, they're very dramatic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to find our own way now, and
Speaker 3: that's why there we make a lot of errors. I
Speaker 3: made errors, but they were not fatal, and I was
Speaker 3: able to keep going and and self correct as I
Speaker 3: went along and have the will. And that's where Steiner
Speaker 3: comes in, terrific. No one's better on will than him,
Speaker 3: not even Gerdjief. And Gerdjief was like mister will U.
Speaker 3: Steiner talks about the will, and you've got to have
Speaker 3: the will to develop because otherwise the temptations now are
Speaker 3: very are very strong because the people in charge, most
Speaker 3: of the ones who are really in charge, certainly at
Speaker 3: the CIA, are ocultists. They're high ocultists, and they are
Speaker 3: not the good guys these.
Speaker 1: And they're all about they're all about indulgence.
Speaker 2: They definitely want people to indulge, indulge as much as possible.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: And I do want to do you want to ask
Speaker 2: you real quick the chemical side of these entities being
Speaker 2: in these chemicals, these medications, et cetera. Do you think
Speaker 2: that there is some aspect to digitizing that or making
Speaker 2: it possible that that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Like cabalistic cabbalistic magic used to make some of this
Speaker 2: technology or things of that nature.
Speaker 3: You are spot on, You are spot on, and that's
Speaker 3: that's what Pizer has and Moderna they have got the
Speaker 3: black magicians working overtime and they're using the digital is
Speaker 3: the way to go because you know John de used digital,
Speaker 3: He had his own digital framework, So you know, we
Speaker 3: we if I think one of the sad things for
Speaker 3: me is I don't know many Christians, but the ones
Speaker 3: I've met, they they've been taught that the occult means bad, evil,
Speaker 3: the devil, whatever. And truthfully, the occult simply means hidden,
Speaker 3: and uh, there's the good occult and there's the bad occult.
Speaker 3: And it's true that if you are not someone who
Speaker 3: has a subtle disposition and is willing to look deeply
Speaker 3: into things. Maybe you should avoid the occult because you
Speaker 3: may not be able to tell the difference between the
Speaker 3: good and the bad. And yet people like me, where
Speaker 3: you know, I was pretty much brought up to assume
Speaker 3: that there were subtleties going on all over the place.
Speaker 3: It just took me a while to because at first
Speaker 3: in life, as you know, you're so busy learning how
Speaker 3: to do things and be here and you know and
Speaker 3: self correct bit and this and that that you're not
Speaker 3: really employing that subtle mind that you have. It will come.
Speaker 3: But a lot of kids start taking drugs too early
Speaker 3: and really can't navigate around in those places where you
Speaker 3: find yourself, and then then all hell can break loose
Speaker 3: and then it'll take you years to find yourself. I
Speaker 3: mean I had problems not from drugs at all or alcohol,
Speaker 3: but but from family stuff I had. I got lost,
Speaker 3: and it took me years to find myself literally. Uh
Speaker 3: and and I had to take very strange path pathways
Speaker 3: in order to really see what I needed to do.
Speaker 3: And so you know this, Rudolph Steiner actually says this.
Speaker 3: He says the the only path of initiation now that
Speaker 3: has any power is the daily life path of initiation.
Speaker 3: Daily life, you know, this boring every day, get up,
Speaker 3: take a shower, you know, report for whatever your thing is,
Speaker 3: whatever you have to do in order to survive here,
Speaker 3: as you evolve as a spiritual being here, you've got
Speaker 3: to take care of business and take care of the physical.
Speaker 3: To under stand that, you know, you you have this
Speaker 3: capacity for the subtle, but that you have to also
Speaker 3: take care of the literally physical, and that we we
Speaker 3: don't have the parenting or the schools or any of
Speaker 3: that that can can throw light on that for us early,
Speaker 3: not later, early early enough that we can make use
Speaker 3: of it and not find ourselves lost, which I think
Speaker 3: a lot of young people are now. And I feel
Speaker 3: badly about that because I had to wade my way
Speaker 3: through phony baloney too, you know, and adults who oh,
Speaker 3: I mean took advantage of me, you know, try to
Speaker 3: destroy me without maybe not being conscious of it. There's
Speaker 3: so much and and people can kind of go, well,
Speaker 3: you know, what kind of life is this? That you're
Speaker 3: born into this subtle place which seems so physical and
Speaker 3: therefore not subtle, but is subtle because that's all just props.
Speaker 3: That's all just props on the stage here as we
Speaker 3: develop that truly human ability to find our way through subtleties.
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's kind of how I had
Speaker 3: the confidence to write about geoengineering when I knew next
Speaker 3: to nothing about it. I mean, I had to find
Speaker 3: out it's it's top secret, it's it's a national security.
Speaker 1: What gave you that confidence? What gave you that confidence
Speaker 1: to do that?
Speaker 3: Well, that I was accustomed to figuring things out that
Speaker 3: weren't obvious and that I would need to.
Speaker 1: I relate with you in that way. That's why I asked,
Speaker 1: because I've yeah, kind of del.
Speaker 2: Then I could take a few pieces of a thing
Speaker 2: and understand a concept pretty and then as I learn
Speaker 2: more about it, I'm like, man, well, that initial thought
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: Is actually exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: Well, you're saying something super important there. You've got to
Speaker 3: have the concept. See, they've taken concepts from us. For example,
Speaker 3: the ether. They took the concept of the ether from
Speaker 3: science in the nineteen twenties. They just ripped it right
Speaker 3: out and you couldn't use.
Speaker 1: It anymore exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now you know they're saying, oh, well, the
Speaker 3: universe is ninety nine point nine percent plasma. Yep, not exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like they rebranded it almost.
Speaker 3: It's actually ether. And then you have an electromagnetic event
Speaker 3: in space, and now you're going to have something plasma
Speaker 3: because you need that electromagnetic event. So anyway, you know,
Speaker 3: don't I get very very cantankerous about that, that they
Speaker 3: have taken certain concepts from us and then call us
Speaker 3: stupid and then look down on us when they themselves
Speaker 3: are the ones who took that from us. And yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're sort of hobbling around trying to scotch tape
Speaker 3: things back together so that we can figure things out.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really that's incredibly immoral and should be
Speaker 3: illegal as well. Okay, so let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 3: I went to breakfast in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I
Speaker 3: was living there. This is back in around two thousand,
Speaker 3: two thousand and five in there, and a woman was there.
Speaker 3: She wanted me to meet Clifford because she thought that,
Speaker 3: you know, we're both smart people and we might have
Speaker 3: something to say to each other. Well, he started talking
Speaker 3: about the research he was doing and the collecting of
Speaker 3: after these jets would fly over northern New Mexico in
Speaker 3: the beautiful azure a sky, I mean, just gorgeous sky
Speaker 3: that they had then and dropped these trails. And he
Speaker 3: could tell from the trails because he was a trained chemist,
Speaker 3: he could tell that they were they were chemical signatures.
Speaker 3: These were not these were not contrails, as they keep
Speaker 3: trying to convince us their contrails. No, they weren't contrails.
Speaker 3: They weren't condensation trails. They were chemical trails. And then
Speaker 3: he began getting interested in that and and collecting different
Speaker 3: precipitation and da da da, And that's where it had
Speaker 3: started for him, And it had started for him about
Speaker 3: five to seven years before we met, and he was
Speaker 3: hot on the trail and the computer was just coming out. Then.
Speaker 3: It's kind of hard to believe, isn't it. It's like whoa,
Speaker 3: and you know, and everybody's sitting down and doing email
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's just I mean, it just started and
Speaker 3: and and so he's now putting everything up on the computer.
Speaker 3: And as he's finding things out and realizing and he's
Speaker 3: got a vandergraph meter, he's out there testing the atmosphere
Speaker 3: to see that, wow, the atmosphere is completely different than
Speaker 3: it was a few years ago, so that what are
Speaker 3: they changing the atmosphere? Don't they know that? You know? Dadad?
Speaker 3: So he tries to get the attention of the food
Speaker 3: of the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, thinking they don't know,
Speaker 3: and of course they ignore him. And that's what's going
Speaker 3: on when I met him, and so I start looking
Speaker 3: in his microscope. I had biology as my second major
Speaker 3: in undergrad so I was interested in what he was finding.
Speaker 3: And I watched some creepy little some in my blood
Speaker 3: gobble up all the iron out of my red blood cells,
Speaker 3: just just sucked it right out, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, well this is this is not just happening
Speaker 3: for a few individuals. This must be happening for everybody.
Speaker 3: And so that really piqued my interest. That was huge,
Speaker 3: And I began reading Clifford's papers. I don't know how
Speaker 3: many he had done, maybe at one or two hundred,
Speaker 3: and looking at the pictures that he had and started
Speaker 3: really bearing down. There weren't many things for me to
Speaker 3: read from other people, at least they weren't organized into books.
Speaker 3: And as I said, the Internet was happening, but it
Speaker 3: was still pretty spotty and you couldn't like, you know,
Speaker 3: get stuff from Australia and that sort of thing. So
Speaker 3: I began working and reading Clifford's work, and we began talking,
Speaker 3: and I decided that I would write a book on
Speaker 3: just the basics, just the basics. I felt confident that
Speaker 3: I could do that, so and with him to be
Speaker 3: my advisor if I got kind of lost. And that's
Speaker 3: where we started. And that was the first book came
Speaker 3: out in twenty fourteen, Kim Trail's Harp and the Full
Speaker 3: Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth. And it's in that book,
Speaker 3: chapter nine, I think it is where I was the
Speaker 3: first one to document the work that Clifford Carnicum had done,
Speaker 3: and particularly regarding Margellan's. Do you remember that term.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you wrote about synthetic fibers
Speaker 2: Margellons in that book. I just was looking at that
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago before, you know, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. Yeah, a long time ago you were already
Speaker 2: writing about it. I mean, and still not. You can't
Speaker 2: find anything on Margellans. Now, there's still not much on Margellans.
Speaker 2: You know, they call it something else.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's synthetic biology. I mean, you know that's
Speaker 3: the thing. Wow, that was the very first thing that
Speaker 3: where they distributed it from the chemtrails and people breathe
Speaker 3: it in and then it goes into the bloodstream from
Speaker 3: the lungs and then by the time it gets to
Speaker 3: the the blood burin barrier, it's so tiny because it's
Speaker 3: on a nanoscale. This is the beginning of the nano
Speaker 3: revolution going on there, which is you know what they
Speaker 3: do is it's quite ingenious, isn't it. You have to
Speaker 3: you have to say, yeah, that's pretty pretty good. Guys.
Speaker 3: They keep it secret. They bally who those who are
Speaker 3: already finding out and call them tinfoil hats and conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: Is it there? And marginalize them, make them over here
Speaker 3: where you really they're not on TV, they're not on
Speaker 3: radio shows. And then you eventually it starts to go public.
Speaker 3: And think how long it took for it to go public.
Speaker 3: We've only had it the last couple of years that
Speaker 3: they're talking about geoengineering. And one of the sites, by
Speaker 3: the way, that I recommend to you is zero geoengineering.
Speaker 3: It's called zero geoengineering, and the woman who's doing it is.
Speaker 3: She's been an activist from from the from my time,
Speaker 3: wonderful person and so she's the one keeping up on
Speaker 3: which states are suing for legislative help and keeping chemtrails
Speaker 3: out of their state, and you know, all the things
Speaker 3: that they're doing without knowledge, without full knowledge of what
Speaker 3: this really is. There is no way they're going to
Speaker 3: stop doing what they're doing because they haven't got another
Speaker 3: system in place for the weaponization that they need this for.
Speaker 3: You know, they use it in wars, they use it
Speaker 3: on people. We're the ones that are the guinea pigs
Speaker 3: for them here in the States, and they've developed it
Speaker 3: to such a degree that they can now have Big
Speaker 3: Pharma put all sorts of other chemicals in it to
Speaker 3: force the self assembly and the self replicate replication of
Speaker 3: synthetic biology in our bodies as they replace our blood
Speaker 3: vessels and our nerves and insert the transhuman scaffolding. And
Speaker 3: this is this is real. This is not the future.
Speaker 3: It's already happening, and some people are trying to point
Speaker 3: it out by dying for us, because you know, we
Speaker 3: can't we can't quite get things that it just sounds,
Speaker 3: you know, And then you import the aliens because it
Speaker 3: sounds too complicated for a mere human being to do.
Speaker 3: I don't know what people are possibly thinking with that.
Speaker 3: And and that's that's where we are now. So all
Speaker 3: this stuff that's coming out now that everybody thinks they've
Speaker 3: just discovered, and it just started, it's twenty five years old.
Speaker 3: Twenty five years old. And Clifford. Clifford actually removed himself
Speaker 3: from the whole the whole thing several years ago. He
Speaker 3: was disgusted. He just couldn't keep going. And he's not
Speaker 3: making any money, and he's not allowed to speak and
Speaker 3: and you know, and he's being marginalized. So now he's
Speaker 3: back because because of the live blood analysis that's going
Speaker 3: on by microscopists. And this is wonderful because a lot
Speaker 3: of people. I'm involved in a group out of Australia
Speaker 3: run by doctor David Nixon, and there are medical people
Speaker 3: that are meeting every week to examine and share what
Speaker 3: they've found under their very expensive microscopes. I mean these
Speaker 3: these microscopes are about seven grand each. In order to
Speaker 3: have an electron microscope where you can see in that
Speaker 3: micro world, you've got to be able to see into
Speaker 3: the micro world. And I've learned so much from these people,
Speaker 3: and you know that they're not medically trained. I mean,
Speaker 3: some of them are medically trained, but that's not necessary.
Speaker 3: It really has to do with how well you're discerning
Speaker 3: what you're seeing and and and how you weigh it.
Speaker 3: You know, and you're seeing these you're seeing things with
Speaker 3: right angles in the blood. I mean, it's apparautie.
Speaker 2: It's so Eric that I told you about earlier. He
Speaker 2: does similar. You know, he has a group similar. I
Speaker 2: think they kind of they keep it under wraps. A
Speaker 2: lot of people he talks to are researchers that don't
Speaker 2: you know, people that work with the microscopes. They don't
Speaker 2: really go out and talk about it, but they'll talk
Speaker 2: to him and he just kind of shares his research.
Speaker 1: He had a fiber.
Speaker 2: He did a video and he had pulled this fiber
Speaker 2: in a mosquito and this was he had put in
Speaker 2: a petri dish. After a while, the fibers start coming
Speaker 2: out of it, and so he pulls it and it
Speaker 2: actually broke.
Speaker 1: So he pushed it.
Speaker 2: He kind of brought it close to the fiber it
Speaker 2: broke off from and it reattached itself. So it reattaches
Speaker 2: and then he pushed it kind of close and it
Speaker 2: made a bend like it was fully attached, and then
Speaker 2: he was explaining how this is how it works. So
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, does this nanotechnology assemble in a fibrosis kind
Speaker 2: of manner?
Speaker 3: Well, that's it's self assembling and self replicating and self repairing, right,
Speaker 3: it's all remember it's all programming. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 3: thing that falls out. The first is the electromagnetic aspect
Speaker 3: of this technology. Most people just jump right to genetics.
Speaker 3: This is not it's not primarily about genetics. It's about electromagnetics.
Speaker 3: And that is five G six G, six g more
Speaker 3: than anything because six g is it's with its the
Speaker 3: size waves, it has its perfect for the tiny world.
Speaker 3: I call it the microworld, the nano world, and then
Speaker 3: next will be the seven G.
Speaker 1: So mesh.
Speaker 2: It's a mesh system, right, which kind of to me
Speaker 2: me think, and it makes me think that's not going
Speaker 2: to come until at from the time they're born until
Speaker 2: they die or fully immersed with this kind of already
Speaker 2: in them when they so there are node when they're
Speaker 2: when they come into this world. Because you couldn't have
Speaker 2: a mesh system with everybody attached to it unless you
Speaker 2: kind of would have vaccine it right when they're born.
Speaker 1: It's perfect in it. You know, are you.
Speaker 3: Thinking of the mesh system that is in an atmosphere
Speaker 3: or are you thinking of the mesh system in your body?
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like the from what I've read, and
Speaker 2: I've just rudimentially read read into this, the terror hurts right.
Speaker 2: It has to work off of short wave versus long wave,
Speaker 2: where the six G can kind of operate on a longer,
Speaker 2: farther bandwidth where you can have wireless devices that are
Speaker 2: kind of far apart, but they can kind of create
Speaker 2: a grid system. But this mesh system seems like it
Speaker 2: needs to be a shorter distance almost like everything has
Speaker 2: to have a sensor on it.
Speaker 1: Everything. Well, you know, so am I far off there?
Speaker 3: And no? And that that has been a compl there.
Speaker 3: I mean we are we are swimming in nanosensors now everywhere.
Speaker 2: S mart dust, right, smart dust is what they smart dust,
Speaker 2: you can call it that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, And I think I think the thing to
Speaker 3: remember is that as I wrote this book that is
Speaker 3: now being edited, uh, I had to include a direction
Speaker 3: to go to how to remain human and what it
Speaker 3: really it's it's a very simple thing if you're encountering
Speaker 3: the machine or the beast as they're calling it. But
Speaker 3: the idea of everything being machine like, such as the nanosensors, uh,
Speaker 3: they are being controlled. I mean a lot of these
Speaker 3: data centers, uh, these that's that's part of what they're
Speaker 3: doing is controlling. I mean, this is a huge undertaking
Speaker 3: to control the entire world. Uh with electromagnetics and nanotechnology. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then you have this synthetic biology, which is uh
Speaker 3: sort of sort of natural uh and and and mostly
Speaker 3: not natural and is actually uh has overtaken the natural
Speaker 3: uh and and so well, how are you going to
Speaker 3: like what are you going to eat? Well, I'm going
Speaker 3: to have to change how you eat, I think, uh
Speaker 3: and uh learning to eat less now is what I'm
Speaker 3: concentrating on. And I've eaten organic uh since the sixties.
Speaker 3: I'm very big on organic. I don't mind that it
Speaker 3: costs more. I don't really care about that because I
Speaker 3: don't go to doctors, I don't have health insurance. I
Speaker 3: don't do any of that because it looks too dangerous
Speaker 3: to me. Whereas the organic route, I understand that because
Speaker 3: I studied Chinese medicine for six years in my twenties.
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be a Chinese medical doctor.
Speaker 3: I was even as far as booking a ship berth
Speaker 3: to go to China, and I was waiting in Hawaii
Speaker 3: for the ship to pick me up when life took
Speaker 3: me in a whole new direction. So I never became
Speaker 3: a Chinese medical doctor. But I had studied for six years,
Speaker 3: and so I used Ian Young all the time. And
Speaker 3: you know, not that I'm miss squeaky clean. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I sin I ate a whole bag of
Speaker 3: potato chips sometimes, and you know that sort of imperfection
Speaker 3: of the human being, which I dearly love, by the way,
Speaker 3: I love the imperfection. Yeah, yes, exactly. I don't want
Speaker 3: to be an angel. I don't want to be Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: I just want to be a real, a real human being.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that when you brought up the very first
Speaker 3: thing you brought up, which was very impressive, is you
Speaker 3: brought up the fibers. I mean, the fibers are the
Speaker 3: very first thing and I had. I'm organizing now notes
Speaker 3: because I want to turn my radio or my my
Speaker 3: podcast presence more into more of a less of a
Speaker 3: chat and more of a course on how this all works.
Speaker 3: And one of the first things, one of the first
Speaker 3: guys in two thousand and three straight his name is
Speaker 3: Mike Castle, terrific chemist, terrific, unbeatable, and he figured this
Speaker 3: stuff out right away. And he calls it kayshaun C
Speaker 3: A T I O N I C reaction polymers. That's
Speaker 3: what these fibers are made of.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And they are they have in them unidentified bioactive materials
Speaker 3: that appear to be genetically mutated fungal forms mutated with
Speaker 3: UH with viruses and that there's a lot to unpack there.
Speaker 3: But let me be very brief, there is no such
Speaker 3: thing as natural virus. Forget that idea. We've been completely
Speaker 3: programmed wrongly in a war model. It's a war model
Speaker 3: of the germ warfare.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But they but they are making virus now, that's what
Speaker 3: they call them. Once they've been engineered, then they are
Speaker 3: making these virus. Whatever they really are is as carriers
Speaker 3: for all manner of disease. And unfortunately that's what was
Speaker 3: in the job. I am not jabbed, needless to say,
Speaker 3: but they were able to They now have this virus
Speaker 3: that everybody believes in as being real, and they make
Speaker 3: it sound like we're going to catch it from out there.
Speaker 3: That's not how it works. There is no such thing
Speaker 3: as contagion. These are all part of the electromagnetic package.
Speaker 3: If you have an electromagnetic field around your body, then
Speaker 3: you can be you can be activated remotely by any
Speaker 3: number of things to have certain symptoms appear in you.
Speaker 3: And also that remember that electromagnetic capacity to your body
Speaker 3: is radiation. I mean, come on, it may not be
Speaker 3: ionized radiation, but it is non ionized radiation, which is
Speaker 3: very dangerous. So you know, they've lied six ways to
Speaker 3: Sunday to us and we have to re we have
Speaker 3: to relearn all these things in order to take care
Speaker 3: of our own health. And I've not been to a
Speaker 3: doctor since I was thirteen when I realized he was
Speaker 3: just trying to make money off of my stepmother by
Speaker 3: telling me I had appendicitis, which I didn't. It was
Speaker 3: simply I didn't want to go to school, so I
Speaker 3: said I had a side ache. So you know, I
Speaker 3: learned early. And then after that, I tried to gynecologist
Speaker 3: years later for pills birth control pills, which didn't work
Speaker 3: out for me, and he showed up at my apartment
Speaker 3: to take advantage of me. Now I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: so that's a gynecologist.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see. And you were in the height of.
Speaker 2: What the feminist movement of course, so like this was
Speaker 2: whenever all that you were in, like the feminist movement,
Speaker 2: like the height of the feminist movement was like we
Speaker 2: were coming up.
Speaker 3: I never was a feminist. Gloria Steinem the head of
Speaker 3: the feminism.
Speaker 2: She worked for the CIA, No surprise there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to break up the family, that's what the CIA
Speaker 3: of course. Then. But no, but I I am an individualist,
Speaker 3: and that's the important part, male or female. I'm an individualist.
Speaker 2: Well a minute ago you were talking about the germ warfare.
Speaker 2: Are you a terrain theorist as they call it nowadays?
Speaker 2: Do you believe in like this concept of terrain theory.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar terrain?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, Steiner used a term very similar to terrain,
Speaker 3: which was geographic medicine. He said his point was that
Speaker 3: because the Earth is geomagnetic, that's what really affects us
Speaker 3: in sickness and illness, because the Dappelganger Aramon, Aramon, the Dappelganger,
Speaker 3: however you want to look at it, same same creature
Speaker 3: in a way, uh is uh completely immersed in magnetism,
Speaker 3: so I couldn't help. But notice, you know, I knew
Speaker 3: that about Steiner, but I didn't apply it to the
Speaker 3: geo engineering until I began to see patterns of of what.
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can find it. It's very
Speaker 3: important that the first of all, graphine oxide very magnetic
Speaker 3: is U is in the cloud seating patent uh and
Speaker 3: is very much always being delivered from the sky on
Speaker 3: us even now.
Speaker 1: And uh there in aluminum too, right? Am I wrong
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But but graphene is much more important than either
Speaker 3: of those.
Speaker 2: I was only pointing that out because they make ball
Speaker 2: like baal, like the god the female. Yeah that's why, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: Not that they're more important, but just that, of course
Speaker 2: they would use those two elements, you know, in conjunction
Speaker 2: with the Oh I'm glad.
Speaker 3: You brought that up, because I would like to share
Speaker 3: that with you too. I've organized my notes. I'm not
Speaker 3: randomly going through here, but I want you to know
Speaker 3: about this. It's very important.
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 3: Years ago? On April twenty three, twenty sixteen, the magnetive
Speaker 3: sphere which is around the ion a sphere where it
Speaker 3: goes up twenty two thousand kilometers. Absolutely collapsed, collapsed, I
Speaker 3: mean collapsed for two hours. And well, if there had
Speaker 3: been a solar event at that point, we would have
Speaker 3: had no protection whatsoever. And of course I immediately realized
Speaker 3: that it was the geo engineers who had done that,
Speaker 3: because they're doing all sorts of things up there, such
Speaker 3: as fake solar eclipses, fake lunar eclipses. Excuse me, you know,
Speaker 3: is there anything natural allowed? No? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: These are ego maniacs running this program. These are our
Speaker 3: Megala destroyers, and they don't like the idea that nature
Speaker 3: or God or anything along those lines could have a
Speaker 3: natural event without them.
Speaker 2: So absolutely, wait, so real quick to that point. So
Speaker 2: you know you said twenty two thousand feet in the air, right,
Speaker 2: do they spray that high up? That's about where they spray, right.
Speaker 3: No, No, they spray in the upper atmosphere that would
Speaker 3: be our stratosphere. And then going into space, because you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's really interesting how they make it sound like
Speaker 3: they're doing lots of things in space. They ain't doing
Speaker 3: nothing in space.
Speaker 1: Agreed, I guess why I should have asked, well.
Speaker 2: I should have asked in about I'm sorry, I should
Speaker 2: have asked in a better way because.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, these laws, so Florida, they made it illegal
Speaker 2: to geo engineer, right, but isn't there like there's Florida
Speaker 2: State only goes up so high in the air. Couldn't
Speaker 2: they spray above that where it's federal? That's what I
Speaker 2: was trying to get at.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay, So so the space over
Speaker 3: a state is only the troposphere.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's twelve.
Speaker 3: Miles, right, but the uh then then next you'll have
Speaker 3: the stratosphere and that's not counted, and but you're you're
Speaker 3: you're going toward the next you know, the ionosphere, and
Speaker 3: the ionosphere is completely controlled by the geo engineers now,
Speaker 3: and that's that's been years since twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: So of course it's these laws aren't making a difference necessarily,
Speaker 2: they're just complicating the public saying yeah, it's illegal, it's illegal,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: But it's really still.
Speaker 3: It's a new cover story. Yes, it's a new cover story.
Speaker 3: Because they knew that that eventually it would have to
Speaker 3: come out somehow. They knew that you can't keep a
Speaker 3: secret forever. That's that's the nature of secrets. They eventually
Speaker 3: come out, but they are using it as a cover
Speaker 3: story and some of that that's going on now. In fact,
Speaker 3: just the other day a very interesting one came out,
Speaker 3: which is, let's see if I got it here, money
Speaker 3: powers organized to stop the States. I was very interested
Speaker 3: in this one. The American Council for Capital Formation Center
Speaker 3: for Policy re Research is a Washington, DC based establishment
Speaker 3: think tank promoting federal governance of solar radiation modification. The
Speaker 3: paper below calls attention to a profound risk for national security,
Speaker 3: economic stability, and global order due to dual use SRM technologies. Predictably,
Speaker 3: the conclusion recommends continuing and safeguarding federally supported, federally supported
Speaker 3: atmospheric quote research such as aerosol cloud interaction, while discouraging
Speaker 3: state bans on such activity. I knew that would come.
Speaker 3: I knew it would come, and I wanted to say
Speaker 3: to the States, don't knock yourselves out over this. They
Speaker 3: are not going to allow the chemtrails to go away. Now,
Speaker 3: they do have a device which is a sound device,
Speaker 3: which when you release the chimp trails, you won't be
Speaker 3: able to see them, and they are using that as well.
Speaker 3: So whenever someone writes me about, oh, Elana, we don't
Speaker 3: have any chimp triols anymore, you know, I always ask,
Speaker 3: is your sky now a very deep blue?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, of course it's not. It's a powder blue, and
Speaker 3: it's you know, the release is still happening, and I
Speaker 3: assume it's with that that particular.
Speaker 1: Invention and the deep blue sky. Man, when's the last
Speaker 1: time I've seen a deep blue sky?
Speaker 2: And I feel like I have in my lifetime for sure,
Speaker 2: But man, it's definitely not all the sure.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's in your lifetime. How old are you?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm thirty this year. Yeah, maybe not, maybe you haven't.
Speaker 2: So I have another question that kind of you know,
Speaker 2: has to do this. So when you look at pictures
Speaker 2: from like the nineties or you know, two thousands, I
Speaker 2: understand that, like there's like a granular change over time,
Speaker 2: and you know, you've got black and white photos and
Speaker 2: photos in the sixties, but there's something about there wasn't
Speaker 2: that much progression in cameras from nineteen ninety to two thousand,
Speaker 2: and two, why does it look so different from you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, yeah, it very very Is
Speaker 2: it the lighting that we use?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: What is it that we don't look like we're in
Speaker 2: the same world that we were in when you look
Speaker 2: at some of those photos?
Speaker 1: Now, am I wrong there? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, And I can't help but feel
Speaker 3: it's the same thing as how certain aspects of reality
Speaker 3: are being tempered. Think about it. You run the geoengineering,
Speaker 3: and now you have unlimited I mean, I haven't shown
Speaker 3: you that. Let me just get it here. The geoengineering
Speaker 3: I always assume you people know. But there are seven, Uh,
Speaker 3: there are seven operations of geo engineering. And the only
Speaker 3: one that you're familiar with, really familiar with, is weather
Speaker 3: engineering or weather modification whatever, cloud seating, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it. But there's electro chemical, electromagnetic things going on, uh,
Speaker 3: and and and tremendous things. We're talking massive billions of
Speaker 3: dollars of experimentation, uh, planetary geophysical. Now, now that I
Speaker 3: would call your attention to the geo engineered fires, the
Speaker 3: ones in California, the one in Maui, et cetera. That's
Speaker 3: what that to me means it's the it's the changing
Speaker 3: of the planet. Uh. And then you have directed energy weapons,
Speaker 3: which is far beyond uh just uh masers and lasers,
Speaker 3: ionosphair caters, article beams, high powered micro waves, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Now the directed energy weapons is it has really been
Speaker 3: transformed because they can use just about everything in my apartment,
Speaker 3: which is why you need to have a very low
Speaker 3: electromagnetic footprint as low as you can get it, because
Speaker 3: then they can use that. If you have Internet of Things,
Speaker 3: if you're refrigerator is an IoT, if your washing machine
Speaker 3: is an IoT, you're screwed because they can use all
Speaker 3: that energy after they break into your apartment from satellite
Speaker 3: or triangulating off of the cell tower near your home, whatever,
Speaker 3: and they can they can target you. They can make
Speaker 3: your life hell. So that's that's d e W's Now.
Speaker 2: I live a somewhat modern lifestyle. So it's funny, you know,
Speaker 2: because I know that all this is true, and I
Speaker 2: just wonder, you know, like, when's the day that they're
Speaker 2: going to start what is it called? Whenever?
Speaker 1: You ah, just it just escaped me. But when gag stalking,
Speaker 1: when is the gang stalking going to start? For me?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, when are they gonna, yeah,
Speaker 2: be messing with me, making me think I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a it's a good question, I mean,
Speaker 3: I anyway, Yeah, the next thing is surveillance and neural manipulation.
Speaker 3: That's mind control. That's another operation. So we've got one, two, three, four,
Speaker 3: five so far six digital biology, nanotechnology, and transhumanism. And
Speaker 3: that's the one I'm spending most of my time on
Speaker 3: because it entails everybody else from above here. And then
Speaker 3: finally the cloaking and obscuration and detection of exotic propulsion
Speaker 3: craft in our atmosphere. Yes, we have craft, we do.
Speaker 3: They're not from Alpha centaury, right, They're from here. And
Speaker 3: we have plasma life forms. And I have myself seen
Speaker 3: plasma life forms in the sky in sana Fe, New Mexico.
Speaker 3: I have have seen amazing things scooting through the sky
Speaker 3: in saana Fe, New Mexico. Why I don't know why
Speaker 3: they was there so so clear.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what, the plasma just on that,
Speaker 2: on that note, you know, I've been kind of getting
Speaker 2: into that research just slightly recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely seems like the orb phenomenon.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of this stuff that went on
Speaker 2: with MK Ultra and like a lot of these different
Speaker 2: project blue Book seemed to be studies of like, how
Speaker 2: do we merge all this together, how do we manipulate
Speaker 2: the mind, get this technology, kind of merge it together,
Speaker 2: and what we're talking about today, And it seemed like
Speaker 2: they were studying all that, you know, through that time
Speaker 2: of manipulating you know, Brant, and now here we are
Speaker 2: the culmination of all of it coming together. And it's
Speaker 2: it's no question why we see disclosure happening at the
Speaker 2: same time as all this other stuff, right, So it's
Speaker 2: not surprising you're to think about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, and they must have a great deal of fun.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what they call fun, we probably
Speaker 3: call evil.
Speaker 1: You know, exactly, maniacal.
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to see here, Okay, one other
Speaker 3: thing I want to read, just to make sure that
Speaker 3: you've got it. It's important to know, especially if you're
Speaker 3: doing this show, that this calling things research. Oh that
Speaker 3: does it make it all backwards?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: It's the fifty US Code fifteen twenty eight Restrictions on
Speaker 3: Use of human Subjects for Testing of chemical or biological agents. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're not supposed to be doing this, but unfortunately that
Speaker 3: law that's supposed to protect this has an exception and
Speaker 3: if it's any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial,
Speaker 3: or research activity. So why did they call HARP the
Speaker 3: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project? Why did they call
Speaker 3: it a research project? Only because they wanted to be
Speaker 3: covered by this imperfect law that allows research.
Speaker 2: And it comes down to reasonable harm as long as
Speaker 2: it's not you know, killing you when they do it,
Speaker 2: then they can you know, they can test on you
Speaker 2: exactly just reasonable harm.
Speaker 1: And you know if you mix that with this.
Speaker 2: This I don't have the paper printed out in two.
Speaker 1: Thousand and two.
Speaker 2: In June they wrote it's called Converging Technologies for Improving
Speaker 2: Human Performance, which is essentially taking nanotech, biotech, all this stuff.
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring it together and we're gonna do exactly
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. For anybody, that's the title, For
Speaker 2: anybody that wants to check that out, it's got it's
Speaker 2: the whole paper.
Speaker 1: It was written by the government, so it's official.
Speaker 3: Uh say that say the term again?
Speaker 1: Yep, let me get to it.
Speaker 2: It says it says converging technologies for human for improving
Speaker 2: human performance. Yeah, and it's all this stuff we're talking
Speaker 2: about now. It's it's you know, DNA, GMO or mRNA vaccine,
Speaker 2: all this stuff. The way it's culminated that started in
Speaker 2: not to say, started in two thousand and two, but
Speaker 2: it became a full coalition at that point in time.
Speaker 3: Right, good, good point. So, Uh, the thing I wanted
Speaker 3: you to know and just make sure you do know,
Speaker 3: is it's. Uh. Cyclotron resonance is a mechanism of action
Speaker 3: that enables very low strength electromagnetic fields acting in concert
Speaker 3: with the Earth's geomagnetic field to produce major biological effects
Speaker 3: by concentrating the energy in the applied field upon specific
Speaker 3: particles like the biologically important ions of sodium, calcium, potassium,
Speaker 3: and lithium. This is in the patent for HARP. So
Speaker 3: you know, it's important for people to realize that these
Speaker 3: technologies are purposely made for a range of effects at
Speaker 3: a distance. The Robert Becker great book Cross Currents, The
Speaker 3: Perils of electro Pollution, the Promise of electro magnet Medicine,
Speaker 3: published in nineteen ninety, Becker talked about this and explained
Speaker 3: it very thoroughly. And then Clifford he he discovered that
Speaker 3: the potassium ion was being targeted for biological interfel over
Speaker 3: the regions of the Earth's surface. And you know this
Speaker 3: going into these these details like far below where something
Speaker 3: is being generated and coming down, we we we need
Speaker 3: to wake up to the fact now that that the
Speaker 3: tiny can be the most dangerous and the furthest away
Speaker 3: from us, can be the most dangerous. These are things
Speaker 3: that nature, uh, nature did not teach us. Uh you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's up to us to learn these
Speaker 3: things in order to take care of ourselves. Then Clifford
Speaker 3: has one really important thing that uh no, that's not it. Oh, well,
Speaker 3: this is important. Fifteen percent of NATO nations budgets are
Speaker 3: set aside for chemtrails and have been since the late nineties. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you know fifteen percent of the budget. Okay, So
Speaker 3: and then yeah, here it is the artificial ELF propagation.
Speaker 3: ELF extra frequency propagation at four hertz multiples is infused
Speaker 3: into our modified atmosphere to create the cycloton resonance I
Speaker 3: just read about that affects our biologically important ions of sodium, calcium, potassium,
Speaker 3: and lithium. It all comes from HARP and the HARP
Speaker 3: system of many ionospheric heats smaller than harp uh that
Speaker 3: now have proliferated around the globe. So at four hurts, Okay,
Speaker 3: if you look at four herts in looking at the
Speaker 3: mind control frequencies, four hurts is a dreamlike uh state
Speaker 3: of consciousness. Uh. And and I think that they've been
Speaker 3: doing the four herts since at least two thousand. So
Speaker 3: if we're looking at how dumbed down people are, we
Speaker 3: have to include that as well, because HARP is sending
Speaker 3: out a pulse of four herts and uh. And we
Speaker 3: are resonant beings, wonderfully resonant, which is part of our sensitivity,
Speaker 3: but is also a weakness. You know. The Chinese have
Speaker 3: this great saying the bigger the front, the bigger the back.
Speaker 3: That's so true with resonance, because our resonance makes us sensitive,
Speaker 3: but on the other hand makes us very vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, yeah, that's absolutely true. Mainly p Hall
Speaker 2: kind of talked a lot about, you know, to your
Speaker 2: point earlier, about this this field we have around us,
Speaker 2: and illness is an illness isn't possible if we're vibrating
Speaker 2: at a resonant at what we're supposed to be vibrating at.
Speaker 2: But it's this outside EMF waves which are able to
Speaker 2: penetrate that that are then able to disrupt it, scramble it,
Speaker 2: and then access caused illness and uh and there we
Speaker 2: are disease. Right, So that's that's the basis of this
Speaker 2: whole system. Figured out how to manipulate that and you
Speaker 2: know entropy, right.
Speaker 3: And they and they've scrambled our human resonance, you know,
Speaker 3: seven point eighty three, which is our brain's primary frequency.
Speaker 3: Generally speaking, I would say that the human resonance is
Speaker 3: at least oh gosh, there, they're it up, they're dragging
Speaker 3: it down, they're playing around with it.
Speaker 2: Well, I can definitely tell my cognitive functions have very much.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this on the show many times. I'm
Speaker 2: not operating at the level I was operating pre twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen and up until then. I'm probably maybe from my
Speaker 2: own doing, because I had, you know, a little wild
Speaker 2: time for a while with different things, you know, drugs, whatever, you.
Speaker 1: Know, probably caused a little.
Speaker 2: But I've done a lot after that, intellectual work, reading,
Speaker 2: a lot, working on critical thinking, listening to long term
Speaker 2: or long form rather you know, audible works, right, It's
Speaker 2: very dense in information and training my attention span, training
Speaker 2: my critical thinking back up. These are things I spent
Speaker 2: years just naturally out of my curiosity for wanting to
Speaker 2: learn information. I realized that I had to train myself
Speaker 2: to be able to learn it again because my attention span,
Speaker 2: my memory, my everything was messed up, and even critical
Speaker 2: thinking to the point where you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people just read something and that that's what they think
Speaker 2: about that subject. Now they just take some somebody else's
Speaker 2: thing and they regurgitate it. The more you do that,
Speaker 2: the more you do that, the more you kind of
Speaker 2: disable that part of your brain. And you got to
Speaker 2: retrain it. And I found myself doing that, and so
Speaker 2: I wonder how many other people, Right, Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 2: to reach people, but probably because they have so much
Speaker 2: retraining to do in order to even get there on
Speaker 2: a mental level with you.
Speaker 3: Well, and the music that people are listening to, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not the four forty, right, it changed, so that
Speaker 3: would be enough. I mean, there's all kinds of things
Speaker 3: you can do to adjust your environment without the FEDS
Speaker 3: beating down your door. You know that, but it takes
Speaker 3: planning and it takes discipline and commitment to do that.
Speaker 3: So we're not entirely defeated yet. But I must say
Speaker 3: that with this transhumanism, I definitely moved into high gear
Speaker 3: when and I realized that that they were attempting to
Speaker 3: completely eliminate Homo sapiens. Yeah, and if they eliminate Homo sapiens,
Speaker 3: what will the transhuman hybrid be like? And I don't
Speaker 3: think we will be able to incarnate or reincarnate anymore.
Speaker 1: So that that's familiar.
Speaker 2: Very are you familiar with the Gnostic teachings. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've probably read some Gnostic teachings in your life. So
Speaker 2: I've got this theory and it goes right with where
Speaker 2: you just said. You know, the Gnostics believe that we
Speaker 2: live in a prison planet that was created by the
Speaker 2: demiur jos uh and we're stuck here. And I believe
Speaker 2: that they think they're building this thing so they could
Speaker 2: live forever. We're already stuck here on a prison planet,
Speaker 2: so we might as well just live forever. I think
Speaker 2: it's the opposite. I think that we can get out
Speaker 2: of here, but you're creating a prison planet on. You know,
Speaker 2: at the whim of these demiir to then have yourself
Speaker 2: not in car ain't be stuck out of eternal life,
Speaker 2: and then there you are, You're now stuck in this
Speaker 2: material prison planet. So I think it's really an inverted
Speaker 2: lie that's being almost told to them, or that they
Speaker 2: believe that they're acting off of this on so they
Speaker 2: believe they're actually doing good, you know, to an extent.
Speaker 2: The elites, Yes, they're very gnostic. I believe in their
Speaker 2: in their ideologies.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, yeah.
Speaker 1: Just kind of how I view it from reading some
Speaker 1: of their stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, if they believe that we live in
Speaker 2: a prison planet and they're simultaneously building that is a
Speaker 2: digital replica of our whole creation, a lot of Christians
Speaker 2: would say that this is just the devil trying to
Speaker 2: recreate God's creation to be like God. Right, Well, there's
Speaker 2: some truth to that, I believe, but there's man that believes.
Speaker 2: I believe they've been told that they're going to control
Speaker 2: this digital creation they're creating, but that's not going to
Speaker 2: be the case. But you know, because they're programming it
Speaker 2: and creating it, they probably believe that. And so I
Speaker 2: think there's something to that with as far as ideology goes,
Speaker 2: I think there's something to that mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, we got a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell people where they can find you,
Speaker 2: where they can find your book. I'd love to have
Speaker 2: you back on to speak about plasma sometimes, because once
Speaker 2: I get some more research.
Speaker 1: No, but the guy that.
Speaker 3: You should have for plasma? Oh, why am I blocking
Speaker 3: his name? Now? There's someone. I'll send you an email, Okay,
Speaker 3: person to six G, A guy you should interview. He's
Speaker 3: the plasma guy. In fact, I'm reading a really interesting
Speaker 3: book that he recommended to me. Maybe you've already known.
Speaker 1: About this book science if I have it?
Speaker 3: No, a New Science of Heaven by Robert Temple. This
Speaker 3: is about plasma. How's the science of plasma will transform
Speaker 3: humanity's understanding of its place in the universe?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I got that. I just yeah, I just
Speaker 2: typed it down so I could get that later. I've
Speaker 2: got my little notepad on my computer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. Good as far as Yeah, I have
Speaker 3: no website right now because I was attacked a couple
Speaker 3: three years ago. A couple of years ago, I guess,
Speaker 3: and I haven't had time or money to get that going.
Speaker 3: But I have a Patreon site, so I comment every
Speaker 3: day on all sorts of news items that people send me,
Speaker 3: Like I have two thousand emails I'm catching up on
Speaker 3: now because I was unable to respond to all sorts
Speaker 3: of people when I was writing. I get a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff from all over the place, and so I
Speaker 3: may comment, and I think it's a valuable place, and
Speaker 3: it's free, or you can pay ten dollars in order
Speaker 3: to have the thing sent to your desktop. So there's that.
Speaker 3: And then for buying my books, sure, evil Amazon has them.
Speaker 3: All The ones that I didn't tell you about are
Speaker 3: a set of novels that I wrote about America since
Speaker 3: Kennedy's assassination, and it's called Subrosa America, a Deep State History,
Speaker 3: and it has a cult following of maybe, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe three hundred people who keep reading the books over
Speaker 3: and over and studying this and that. And I now
Speaker 3: have in the way back machine. I finally found a
Speaker 3: friend of mine finally found my bibliography of what I
Speaker 3: read in order to write those books, and I have that.
Speaker 3: So if you are a person who has listened to
Speaker 3: or read the sub Rosa America series. I now have
Speaker 3: the bibliography, so I could I could feasibly send it
Speaker 3: to you all right then otherwise than the publishers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and is there anything else I needed to say?
Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, I think a lot of great information,
Speaker 2: you know. JZI Max said that as well. Thank you
Speaker 2: JZ Mac for the super chat Man. We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Everybody enjoyed everything that was listening so far. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great to meet you. Andrew.
Speaker 1: Definitely can't wait to read Remaining Human.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've got that as the title here, so
Speaker 2: everybody will it's your new book coming out and definitely
Speaker 2: be on the lookout for that. I'm excited to read that.
Speaker 2: That's the sequel, right to the Geoengineering Transhumans.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the it's the sequel, and I would say
Speaker 3: companion volume, okay, because the Geoengineered Transhuman is much more
Speaker 3: concentrating on the geoengineering and how it plays into the
Speaker 3: synthetic biology, and then it goes into synthetic biology. This
Speaker 3: book is primarily about synthetic biology with a secondary of
Speaker 3: the geoengineering awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely companion books then you need to both. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to getting those, and I really appreciate you,
Speaker 2: and I look forward to maybe talking again next time
Speaker 2: you write a book, or if you just want to
Speaker 2: talk about some research you have, anytime, you just reach out,
Speaker 2: and I really had a pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 3: Great, great, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you everybody, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: next time.