WEBVTT 1 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:29.760 All right, well, yeah, we are live. Welcome to six 2 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:30.399 year Agenda. 3 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.159 I'm your host, Andrew, and I'm here to talk about 4 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:36.200 what they won't. And today we have a special guest, 5 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.320 Alana Friedland. 6 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:38.439 She's a author. 7 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.320 He's written about some great topics that I wouldn't call 8 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.600 them great, but some serious and important topics that we've 9 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:48.000 spoken about plenty on here as well. But she's got 10 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.920 plenty of good research to give us some data and 11 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.920 details about kind of the theories we speak about. So 12 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.439 welcome on, Alana, and very excited to have you on. 13 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:57.200 Thanks for coming. 14 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.280 Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm back and track. I 15 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:06.959 went off from radio interviews for six months because I 16 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:14.359 was writing my fifth book on this topic, geoengineering and 17 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:19.519 synthetic Biology. So this is only the second show I've 18 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.560 done since I took those six months off. I felt 19 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.640 kind of sheepish about it. Actually felt like I was 20 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.239 I should be up and Adam. But you know, when 21 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.000 you're writing a book. I say this to people who say, oh, 22 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.480 I write too well, you may write, but do you 23 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:44.359 write books, because it's a whole other ballgame between a 24 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.799 good paragraph or even a good essay or short story 25 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:54.000 and writing an entire book, because you're basically the architect 26 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:58.879 and the builder. So you know, I've put my time 27 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:03.280 in and the anuscript has been submitted and now I'm 28 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.680 sort of tidying up before the next project. 29 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.360 Well that's amazing. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I could imagine that. 30 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.360 You know, I've got a lot of research that I've 31 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:14.319 kind of been gathering, and you know, eventually I'm want 32 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.599 to write a book as well, and I can tell 33 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:19.680 just like yesterday, actually I happen to outline the topics 34 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.319 I want to go over, which ended up being so long, 35 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.800 you know, because it all kind of delves into each other. 36 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:27.560 It's so much, so I was like, well, how can 37 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.199 I section this up? So it is a lot just 38 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.280 the outlining and then of course, like as you said, 39 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.879 the architecture of it, and then of course the actual 40 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:35.800 writing of each detail. 41 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:37.919 I mean, it could take a lot of a bandwidth. 42 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.639 I'm sure you know, yes, and I highly recommend Andrew 43 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:49.039 that you just write. I don't do outlines. 44 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:49.840 I never. 45 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.479 I consider that no offense, but I consider that a 46 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.840 male a male approach to writing. What I do is 47 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:01.639 I take the first thing that it is like front 48 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:05.560 and center in my mind, and I throw some energy 49 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:11.759 into that, write something up that usually will tumble something else. 50 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.759 Then I go to that, and pretty soon I've got 51 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:19.159 all these sections written, all these different sections, and it 52 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.479 then the book begins to organize itself. And I really 53 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.680 like that approach because it's more organic. It's not just 54 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:31.120 out of your head, it's more out of the story itself. 55 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:33.080 I highly recommend it. 56 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.240 Yeah, I've definitely I know what you talked about, and 57 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.280 I'm definitely gonna I'll try that for sure. I haven't 58 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.360 gotten into the writing process too hard yet, so I 59 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:40.919 appreciate it. 60 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.199 I appreciate you. 61 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.719 You're pretty young, you know, Yes, you've got some miles 62 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.479 to go to gather more and more and more. I mean, 63 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:54.719 I've been at this just briefly. I'm a sixties person, 64 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.199 you know. I came of age in the sixties when 65 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:02.680 the street riots were going on and our three heroes 66 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:07.080 of my generation were all murdered by the CIA. And 67 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.000 you know, I've a lot of people have said, yeah, 68 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.639 that was me when I was young, and I've grown 69 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.199 up since then. Well, I guess I haven't grown up 70 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.279 because I've just gone deeper and deeper and deeper into 71 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.160 what I call the basement where the real story has 72 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:29.000 been hidden and un tucked away, and bringing that out 73 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.759 for people to understand. I think now I can honestly 74 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:37.399 say you've probably noticed. It seems to me that all 75 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:41.319 the conspiracy theories that's the CIA term that they came 76 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.800 up with when Kennedy was killed, all the conspiracy theories 77 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.480 are out in the open now. I mean I can't 78 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.399 I can't think of any that I was talking about 79 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:58.800 twenty thirty years ago that are still hidden. And now, 80 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.560 I don't know, are they going to just still have 81 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:06.800 to make up that same old story about conspiracy theory 82 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:11.920 blah blah blah, or are they finally going to look 83 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.800 at what that really is about about some people not 84 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.519 being satisfied with the cover story and going digging on 85 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:25.680 their own. I don't know, but it's it's really remarkable 86 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.319 to me because I don't hear a lot about that anymore, 87 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.240 And it seems that a lot of people even respect 88 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.959 me now, whereas for years and years I was not 89 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:42.560 respected at all. I was considered a conspiracy theorist and 90 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:48.720 wasting my good talents on BS. And you know, I 91 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:53.000 knew that it was not at all that, but you're 92 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:58.319 pretty lonely when you set out and everybody's into consensus. 93 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.519 It's the concer census that we have to be cautious of. 94 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.120 It's not so much that I worry all that much 95 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:10.560 about the CIA and their minions that are digging into 96 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.879 all of our life, and you know, now they have 97 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:22.800 the digital concept to take over our minds and our computers. 98 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:29.600 It's more, don't be afraid of consensus and going against 99 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.600 it because most people don't know much about this stuff. 100 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:37.040 They want to just have a life, pay their mortgage, 101 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:41.079 feed their kids, go to work, keep everything. I'll keep 102 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.279 all the balls in the air, and they don't really 103 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.959 want to know all that much to where you know, 104 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.639 it could be dangerous, and there haven't been moments of 105 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.360 danger for me. But I am so happy that in 106 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.560 the sixties we had all that stuff happening and we 107 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:04.040 all knewst the vanguard. Did we knew that that there 108 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.360 were these were all psyops. They were we were having 109 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:16.800 to experience one blow after another to our generation of 110 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.079 pretty pretty creative people and people who didn't buy cheap. 111 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:27.680 So you know, I'm very happy that I had that 112 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.240 because it has held me in good stead. Now that 113 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:35.040 I'm getting older and I'm writing books that I think 114 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.519 will be exceedingly important in the future, particularly the ones 115 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:46.160 you've asked about regarding geoengineering, because this is huge and 116 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.439 most people have no idea, no idea how huge it is. 117 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.680 It is, and you know, I want to get that's. Yeah, 118 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:54.600 I want to ask you about that. 119 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:54.920 First. 120 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.360 I want to comment on the conspiracies becoming mainstream. I 121 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.120 have this kind of theory that I've been working on 122 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:00.519 with that. 123 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.000 Yeah, I call it exposure gate. 124 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:06.839 It's kind of pizza Gate, right, Watergate, exposure gate, where 125 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:10.839 the deep state is actually exposing itself, the corruption is 126 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:15.279 all being unearthed, and they're using that as a reactionary 127 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.279 kind of you know, movement to kind of aim it 128 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.079 at you know, our presidency and you know the way 129 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:23.920 we do our government and possibly rein you know, in 130 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.040 state something different. Possibly AI is government, and so that's 131 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.480 not you know, AI is not going to blackmail people 132 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.840 or you know, things like that, even though they've shown 133 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.320 that their studies that it will blackmail people in order 134 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:36.559 to keep itself running. 135 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:38.639 But you know, that's besides the point. 136 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:40.840 I think they're going to use that as kind of 137 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:44.240 a replacement system, this technocratic system, and be like, look, 138 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:47.399 all these people are corrupt, the system doesn't work, Let's 139 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:48.320 use this new one. 140 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:51.200 And so there's a lot kind of that gets into it. 141 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:52.519 But I think that's got a lot to do with 142 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.279 this movement into what you're talking about. 143 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.480 And I don't know if you're familiar with Michael Aquino. 144 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.759 Oh yeah, okay, a familiar He wrote a book. 145 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:03.559 I'm sure you're familiar with this book. I just bought 146 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.159 all three of the books he wrote, Mind War. He 147 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.679 wrote Mind War, Mind Star, and Find Far. These are 148 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:10.759 three books and the whole thing if you read them, 149 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.039 it's a three part blueprint for how to control man 150 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:18.360 and how to generate change in the future. To generate change, 151 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:21.039 you know how you want it, and so it's very 152 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:22.879 important to read it, and I've been actually breaking it 153 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:25.840 down on my show. But this page here, it talks 154 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.200 about Homo electromagneticus, where he kind of talks about the 155 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:33.360 fact that yes, humans are machines, were electromagnetic machines, and 156 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.799 it talks about a lot about kind of what I'm 157 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:40.200 talking about with using reactions to generate change and the ecosystem, 158 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.120 et cetera. But this talks about what you're speaking about, 159 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:48.080 which is the kind of manipulation of our systems. 160 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:49.960 You know, where you synthetic biology. 161 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.399 I had Eric come on and he talked about these 162 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:55.080 fibers that are in us, and these fibers are. 163 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.759 Fire Medic eight. Are you familiar with who that is? No, 164 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.480 you've got to talk to him. 165 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.480 Yes, Firemedic eight. 166 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.200 Yes, his name's Eric E. R I C. 167 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.720 And he's amazing. He actually was a paramedic firefighter. He 168 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.879 did a lot of work in that field and he 169 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.879 was finding the synthetic fibers and he wasn't in answers 170 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.200 in the medical industry. 171 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.480 He couldn't get anybody to speak to him about it. 172 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:27.279 So he started doing independent work and he's found it everywhere. 173 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:29.840 Yeah, it's it is. 174 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.200 And the way he describes it is that it's almost 175 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:32.559 like it. 176 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.320 Yeah, it's almost like a synthetic nervous system that they're 177 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:36.600 trying to put over our nervous system. 178 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:42.120 Yes, it's a sensor system, yes, and it is definitely 179 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:47.559 delivered by geoengineering. That's the main delivery system. Yeah. You're 180 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.679 going to find it in the jabs as well, you know, 181 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:57.759 the so called vaccines, but it primarily Glifford Carnicum, the 182 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.200 scientists that I've worked with for over twenty years. He 183 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:07.480 came across it in the late last millennium that would 184 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:14.480 be eighteen, that would be nineteen ninety ninety eight, right, 185 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.879 which is six six six times three by the way, 186 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:23.600 and he was able to examine these fibers and see 187 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:30.159 that they were all packed with synthetic biology and it 188 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:35.200 all has to do with bioweapons. So yeah, one thing 189 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.759 I don't agree with you so far, and I'll go 190 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.960 into that, is because remember I'm from a different generation, 191 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:49.120 and I was not raised with TV. I was not 192 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:57.039 raised with electromagnetics. I had a real childhood of farms 193 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:04.080 and conversations and you know, hanging out with people. It 194 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.720 was not I didn't have the challenges that your generation has. 195 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:13.559 I had different challenges. But I know that we are 196 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:20.440 not machines. We are not electro machines. We are not biomachines. 197 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:26.519 We are being turned into biomachines by the transhuman movement, 198 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.120 which is you know, all about what Michael Aquino was 199 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:34.840 talking about years and years ago. So you know, to me, 200 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.399 the book that I just wrote, to be clear, it's 201 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:43.200 called Remaining Human, Remaining Human, standing up to the transhuman 202 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.919 nanomachine takeover of Homo sapiens. That's my working title. I 203 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.159 don't know if if the publisher Inner Traditions is going 204 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:58.039 to go for it. And that means that I'm looking 205 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:03.159 at what makes us human. And then there's the electromagnetic 206 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.320 part of us, of how our brains really operate, because 207 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.000 we have an electromagnetic element in us, but there is 208 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.720 sort of an assumption that not only are we simply 209 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:26.240 electromagnetic as like a machine, but that we that that's 210 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:30.159 somehow the definition of human. We've learned to think of 211 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.279 our brains as a machine. All these things that we've 212 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:39.440 picked up from the conditioning that we're all undergoing all 213 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.840 the time. We have to really check all that out. 214 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:47.320 We cannot buy cheap there because they want us to 215 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:51.720 think like machines. They want us to not be individuals. 216 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:58.799 And I'm from the generation that individualism and an individuality 217 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:05.279 was like primary, except that we too were being influenced 218 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:10.679 by media. We had people like Marshall mccluan, a linguist 219 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:17.720 who was telling us beware, beware of the media, because 220 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:22.440 you know you're being mediated. And if you want to 221 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.000 stay as an individual and you want to work on 222 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:29.360 becoming a true individual that can stand up against the 223 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:35.039 nanomachine takeover. You're going to have to really examine things 224 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:40.200 that are coming to you seemingly, effortlessly, seemingly in the environment, 225 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.519 because that's exactly how we were approached. And it took 226 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:50.240 years for people to awaken to the fact that, Wow, yeah, 227 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.639 the CIA, it was you know, the three little magic initials. 228 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.600 It wasn't that they were like trying to kill us 229 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:06.240 or or you know, breaking into our homes or satelliting 230 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:12.919 over us. It was that they were creating an environment, 231 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.120 a social environment, a media environment, even a physical environment. 232 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.559 They were creating an environment that was slowly changing our 233 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.279 self conception as human beings. And that's really what I 234 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.840 think I'm most known for. Yeah, I write about geoengineering, 235 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.559 but what I bring to the table when I'm talking 236 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.840 about just about anything. I mean, I spent ten years 237 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.440 on MK Ultra in order to understand what it was. 238 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.200 And I now know quite a few MK ultra people 239 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.759 who you know, who've told me their story, and some 240 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:53.600 of them are doing well, some of them aren't. Is that, 241 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.960 you know, I stand for the human being. I don't 242 00:15:57.960 --> 00:15:59.799 want to be an angel. I don't want to be 243 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.960 a devil. I don't want to be one or the other. 244 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.039 I want to be that one who stands in the 245 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:13.440 middle and concentrates on being the individual that I am. 246 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:18.120 I mean, you know, I am not just an intellect. 247 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:23.279 I am something else. Now I could bring in concepts 248 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.240 from Rudolph Steiner. Are you familiar with him? 249 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.919 Absolutely? Yeah, the Age of Raman and everything as that. 250 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:30.200 Yeah. 251 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.960 Yeah, I am a big Steiner person. I have been 252 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.480 for forty five years. I would say I have studied 253 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:42.480 his work. It's not that he's my guru or I 254 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.879 always say, I like my guru's dead, because then I 255 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.799 can just read their their thoughts and be free of 256 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.200 their charisma and you know, and and not fall down 257 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.960 and worship them. And that's how I feel about Steiner. 258 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.360 He's my He's my trail guide, and he is the 259 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:04.960 one that talks very much about we are. Yes, we 260 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.079 have an electro electromagnetic component. And I assume since you 261 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.920 like him, you know about the double and the doppelganger. 262 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:15.920 You know that we all have one in us, and 263 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:22.640 it's the Doppelganger's presence in my not just my physical body, 264 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.799 but my spiritual bodies as well, because I have three 265 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:33.319 of those. The Doppelganger's presence is electromagnetic, and it is 266 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.000 the Doppelganger that avails me of being able to unlock 267 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:44.119 things with my brain and the intellect. But I myself 268 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:49.000 also have something very in common with making. Like let's 269 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.880 take something like alima being. You know, a lima bean 270 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:58.839 grows because it's connected to the etheric force of this planet. 271 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:03.200 You put a into the earth and boom, suddenly you've 272 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.960 got green shoots coming out, and you're gonna have fruit, 273 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:09.880 You're gonna have vegetables, You're gonna have things that will 274 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:16.160 nourish animals and humans. And that etheric substance of the 275 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.200 Earth is in my body as well. I tend to 276 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.960 think of myself primarily as an etheric being with a 277 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.400 in my case, good intellect. I have a very good 278 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:31.119 intellect and I've trained it. You know, it's kind of 279 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.039 like a dog, like a pedigree dog now not just 280 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:37.799 you know, just a poi dog as we used to 281 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.559 call them when I lived in Hawaii. No, I am 282 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:48.920 able to utilize my intellect, but with that soul and 283 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:52.920 heart connection in it, and I used to not have 284 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.880 that when I was in university. I always did well 285 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.799 in university, got a's and stuff, but I was I was. 286 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:02.559 My thinking was kind of dead, you know, it was 287 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.119 kind of in lockstep of some sort. I knew what 288 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.720 would what would get the good grades, and I could perform. 289 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.720 I was like a circus dog myself. But then I 290 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:17.200 began to read very widely. In the sixties, we had 291 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.119 lots of lots of spiritual stuff going on, and you know, 292 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:26.799 you read Indian gurus, you read Gurjeef, read all these 293 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:32.000 really primo thinkers, and you can see where your thinking 294 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:37.319 needs to be resurrected in some way from the abstracting 295 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.640 that you've been taught to do. And that's that's where 296 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:44.839 Steiner comes in for me. He saved me with that. 297 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:49.160 And so in this book coming out next, I mean 298 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.039 I mentioned him in just about every book, but this 299 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:57.079 book coming out now. My publisher, Inner Traditions, they are 300 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:03.720 known for years ago. Oh they published two books that 301 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:05.960 I remember, I don't know, I'm sure there were more. 302 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.359 They were interested in the relationship of spirit and science, 303 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.480 and so they published The Dolla Physics that was one 304 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:18.960 of them, terrific book, and the Dancing Wouli Masters and 305 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:26.599 these two books were a combination of spirituality and physics, 306 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:31.119 and that's what this publisher does. And this is the 307 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.400 only time in my life, Andrew, and I'm sure it 308 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.119 won't happen again, of where a publisher came looking for me. 309 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.839 And that really felt good because I'd already published two 310 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:50.279 three books and so now I'm publishing with inner traditions 311 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:55.200 because they appreciate what I what and how I write 312 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:01.559 about spirit and science, because the science of our day 313 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.359 treats the earth like its dad, treats us like we're 314 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:14.039 just nodes on an AI composite. And I want I 315 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:20.359 want a science that lives and breathes with what my 316 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:23.720 humanity lives and breathes with, which for me is the ether. 317 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:25.599 Does that make. 318 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.519 Sense, Absolutely, yes it does. 319 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:32.079 Yeah, it's beautifully eloquently said. Though, Yeah, very nice. You know, 320 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.160 I agree with that, and you know, you you kind 321 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:39.920 of dispelled the difference between say Luciferian doctrine and Rudolph 322 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:42.240 Steiner's doctrine, which some people would like to point to 323 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:44.240 that is like Luciferian, and I disagree. 324 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:48.000 I think that he's actually he's he talks about. 325 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:49.799 How these people that want to like become God with 326 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:53.319 these similar you know, channeling, you know, doing similar things 327 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:55.440 what he did, but taking it to the next place. 328 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:56.960 And so there's a difference. 329 00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:58.680 And I love how you just eloquently said that, you 330 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:00.319 kind of very much exprest. 331 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.880 Well, thank you. And and it takes one to know one. 332 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:09.119 I mean, you've studied enough that you have your own 333 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.839 perception is Oh no, he's no Luciferian, no way. And 334 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.200 regarding channeling, let me just say a word about that. Yeah, 335 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:24.359 he's not. He doesn't channel. He has he had the 336 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:29.000 plus and minus of being born clairvoyant. And so for him, 337 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:33.480 I think his main challenge up into his twenties, knowing 338 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:38.920 his biography as I do, was to really dig in 339 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:45.039 here on planet Earth and not just be carried by 340 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:49.119 his atavism. The atavistic capabilities that he had he was 341 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.599 born with. I'm the granddaughter of a of a Romanian 342 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:58.640 gypsy and she was clairvoyant. And I think for her 343 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.599 it was it was something that gypsies inherit because the 344 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:06.920 bloodline is it goes on forever. But but in her case, 345 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.880 she was a peasant woman. She didn't even read. She 346 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.759 she could read events that were coming up and and 347 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:20.920 so she had that old intelligence that is now called outavism. 348 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:21.839 Uh. 349 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.519 And but what we have is we have this wonderful 350 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:29.799 neo cortex that uh that we've we haven't always had it, 351 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:35.880 it's only really been developing for several centuries. Uh. And 352 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:41.519 as it developed, our our natural clairvoyance and those skills 353 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.240 that my grandmother had, they began to evaporate. Because the 354 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.920 the mind, the cortex is here to help us really 355 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:58.119 cognize and relate to this planet. That's what we came for. 356 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.480 We didn't come to be airy fairy and float around 357 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.400 and you have nice feelings. No, we came to understand 358 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:10.519 and cognize what's going on here. And that you know, Unfortunately, 359 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.519 for many people, it's one thing to be able to 360 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:19.000 nail something that is physical and you can talk about 361 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:23.119 in scientific language, you can talk about it in pragmatic language. 362 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:30.240 But to understand what it means and what its purpose 363 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.559 here is, that's a different story. And that's the next 364 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.880 thing that we're developing now. According to Rudolph Steiner, we 365 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.680 have the intellectual soul, we have the sentient soul. We've 366 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:46.160 had those for well maybe a few thousand years, and 367 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:51.000 now we're getting a new kind of soul called the 368 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:55.759 consciousness soul. The consciousness soul is something I'm completely committed 369 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.640 to because it's the part of us that is pretty new, 370 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:06.440 pretty clueless. I we haven't done a lot with it. 371 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.039 We don't have a lot of muscle in it. But 372 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.000 it is that which can look at what things mean, 373 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.920 what they mean, not just what they are, not just 374 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.799 give them a title. And you know, you've got a 375 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.960 little catalog in your head and you know exactly this, 376 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.839 that and the other, and you get all a's in university. No, 377 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.359 it's the it's where you're looking at things and you know, 378 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:32.160 like when I was standing in Berkeley during a street riot, 379 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.160 I realized that if I continued to stand where I was, 380 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.799 I was going to be trampled eventually. So right away 381 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:44.799 I was like, you know, thinking of the crowd as 382 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:49.680 this moving, huge thing moving down the street and being 383 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:55.559 very influenced by different noises coming from the police and 384 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.200 helicopters overhead and things like that. So I began to 385 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.440 I looked at the whole situation, not just a few 386 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.480 little things, and realized what I needed to do to 387 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.400 stay safe and be there to witness it. So I 388 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:12.880 could write about it, So that kind of thinking that 389 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.400 goes further than just the naming of things and the 390 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.119 concepts of things. What does it mean? Where is it going? 391 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.319 How big is this? And I know this show is 392 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:28.400 not about thinking, but. 393 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.079 I want to establish. 394 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.599 I want to establish that thinking is not just an 395 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:39.160 intellectual exercise. That's not what I stand for. I can 396 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:41.240 do the kind of thinking. Well, you'll see it in 397 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.680 my books. You can see how I write is it's 398 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:49.720 very different from most science books. But of course, when 399 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.519 I had the opportunity to go for a PhD, the 400 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.759 first thing that came into my mind was, no, I'm 401 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.200