WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.799 Well, welcome back everyone. The President has just delivered his 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.199 farewell address to the nation when about nineteen minutes I 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:11.480 hope you listen to it here on WBC courtesy of 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:16.760 ABC News. And it was a statement of his accomplishments, 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:21.000 his view and his dreams. And we can hit some 6 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.399 of the highlights, but what I'm looking for initially, and 7 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.719 we'll probably take a break at eight point thirty here 8 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:28.399 and try to catch up a little bit, so if 9 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.000 you want to try to get in and respond to 10 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.679 what the president said, There was nothing monumental in this 11 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.920 speech tonight, nothing especially memorable from what I can from 12 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:45.600 what I heard, I have no idea who wrote the speech, 13 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:50.280 but you know, he started taking credit, which is understandable 14 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.520 for the Israeli Hamas hostage deal. He was asked today 15 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.759 by a reporter if whether or not he should take 16 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.520 credit or if former president soon to be president Donald 17 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.240 Trump should That will be sorted out. And then he 18 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.319 began with a story about the Statue of Liberty, talked 19 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:10.840 about checks and balances, complimented his vice president, talked about 20 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.000 his accomplishments once in a century pandemic, the recovery of 21 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.120 which was underway when he took office in January of 22 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.959 twenty twenty one. He did take credit for recovery from COVID. 23 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:28.040 Talked about new roads, bridges, semiconductors, medicare, power to negotiate. 24 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.200 They talked about medical care for veterans and their families. 25 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.519 Seventeen million new jobs. Many of those jobs, as you know, 26 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.760 were lost during COVID, and many of them came back. 27 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:44.200 He talked about strengthening NATO, Ukraine still being free, no 28 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:48.840 reference to the debaclet in Afghanistan of the summer of 29 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:55.200 twenty twenty three. He wished, without naming the incoming administration 30 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.560 to succeed. No mention of his successor or his predecessor 31 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.239 for that. Donald Trump talked about Then he got serious 32 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:07.560 and talked about the dangerous concentration of power, the oligarchy 33 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.400 of the wealthy, as he put it. Talked about how 34 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.879 one hundred years ago Robert Robert Barns and trust needed 35 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.280 to be busted and that the same way today, wealthy 36 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.520 have to pay their fair share. Talked about the threat 37 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.840 of climate change, invoked briefly North Carolina and California, which, 38 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.159 of course we're all I think very much aware. I've 39 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:30.479 talked about powerful forces, powerful forces that are out and about. 40 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:36.319 He talked about Matta, It didn't mention Metta Facebook Mark Zuckerberg, 41 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:40.520 who has said that Matta will no longer fact check, Well, 42 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:46.039 just a parenthetical comment on that. We have been doing 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.680 fact checking, I think in this country for a long time, 44 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:54.800 and it's considered political debate, and I think we'll do 45 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:59.599 just fine with or without fact checking. We've had other 46 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:07.919 fact checkers newspapers besides Facebook, so I think we will 47 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.719 survive with the end of fact checking. Talked about the 48 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.879 threats of AI, the potential benefits, but also the threats. 49 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.560 He talked about the necessity of term limits for the 50 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.800 US Supreme Court eighteen years. No mention of term limits 51 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:26.879 for members of Congress. However, he did say members of 52 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:30.439 Congress should not be allowed to trade in stock, and 53 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.840 he did say that there should be a constitutional amendment 54 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.719 making it very clear that no president should be immune 55 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:39.240 from prosecution, no president should be above the law. I 56 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.240 think we know who he was thinking about when he 57 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:45.400 talked about that. He concluded by thanking his administration, members 58 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:49.800 of his administration first responders, who obviously have been in 59 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.199 the forefront of some real crises in this country. In 60 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.199 the last few months, between the hurricanes and the storms 61 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:00.439 in the southeast and the fires near Los Angeles. Thank 62 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.800 the military specifically thanked again Vice President Harris for a 63 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:11.000 second time, and the historic first gentleman thanked his wife, 64 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:16.439 doctor Jill. Biden talked to his entire thanked his entire 65 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:23.199 family without mentioning anyone other than doctor Biden did not 66 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:27.959 mention his son Hunter, which is fine, and then he 67 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.920 thanked the American people, and that was it. It was 68 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.839 nineteen minutes. I don't think it will go down as 69 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:39.240 the most memorable presidential farewell in history, but it is done, 70 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.120 and he has a couple of opportunities in the next 71 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.120 few days perhaps well. Of course, on Monday, will he 72 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:53.879 will welcome President elect and Missus Trump to the White House. 73 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.439 I assume that he will ride in the motorcade with 74 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:01.879 President Elect and Missus Trump to the Capitol. My suspicion, 75 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:03.759 although I don't know it for sure, is at that 76 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:09.360 point he would depart and head to andrewser for space 77 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:14.399 for a short flight home to Delaware or a longer 78 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:19.040 flight to somewhere else. I mean, he has many friends 79 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:22.439 around the country, and many of those friends are wealthy 80 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.319 friends who have lovely places for where where he could 81 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:29.160 vacation or where he could move into retirement, I guess 82 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:32.160 would be the more appropriate term. So I just love 83 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.800 to hear from each of you your reaction. I'd like 84 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.120 to focus, at least for the balance this hour on 85 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:47.959 the administration, which now is let's see, it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Friday, Saturday, 86 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:51.959 about one hundred and twenty hours left. So in this administration, 87 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:58.199 the days are dwindling down for President Biden and our numbers. 88 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.560 You can join us here on Nightside. Again, I should 89 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.839 have introduced myself. I'm Dan Ray, the host of NIGHTSI, 90 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:04.920 and I assume if you're listening to WBZ at this 91 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.600 the night on a weeknight, you kind of have had 92 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.879 that figured out. Rob is back in the control room. 93 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.959 So I'll ask you for two really two questions. What 94 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.600 did you think of the speech? I thought the speech 95 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.720 was pretty unremarkable. I thought it was a nice summation, 96 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:25.160 but there wasn't anything new. I guess in a farewell 97 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.199 speech you don't learn much that is new. You learn 98 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:34.680 about the perspective of the person who's saying farewell, and tonight, 99 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.759 Joe Biden said farewell, fifty two years in public service. 100 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.279 Was elected as a United States Senator while he was 101 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:45.120 twenty nine years of age in November of nineteen seventy two, 102 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.519 and he turned thirty by time he took the oath 103 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.959 of office that following January and January of nineteen seventy three. 104 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:58.680 So he has been with I guess for just four 105 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:02.120 years when he was outside of public office during the 106 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.920 first Trump administration. So however you cut it, it's a 107 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.399 half a century as an elected official, as a US Senator, 108 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.600 as a vice president for four years, for eight years, 109 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.519 excuse me, and as the president for four years. So 110 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.639 it's a long run for President Biden, and it will 111 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.839 end in a few more days. That sort of in 112 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:30.040 some respects technically ended tonight, but he will remain President 113 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.079 of the United States, and I certainly wish him well 114 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.879 and wish him a lot of health, good health in 115 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.199 the years to come. One of the things that we 116 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.240 will be watching, I think, in the next few days, 117 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.920 is whether or not there are any other members of 118 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:50.360 the Biden family who President Biden decides that he needs 119 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:57.600 to pardon perspectively or retrospectively. We'll figure that out tonight. 120 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:03.079 Your reaction to the President's comments, and there was nothing 121 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.519 that he said that was inappropriate. I think it might 122 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.160 have been nice if he mentioned Donald Trump's name, but 123 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.199 he didn't have to. Certainly he was not treated particularly 124 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.160 well by Donald Trump in twenty twenty or in twenty 125 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.560 twenty one, There's no no doubt about that. But also 126 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.600 i'd love to get from you, and you know, if 127 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:25.160 you're a Biden supporter, give us a rating of the 128 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:31.800 Biden years. History will write the record that Joe Biden 129 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.240 will have to live with historically. But I'd love to 130 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.120 know what you think successful. I think there are some 131 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.519 areas of success in some areas of failure. As often 132 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.159 with precedents, it is a mixed bag. My name's Dan Ray. 133 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.960 Here's the number six one, seven, two, five, four ten 134 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:51.799 thirty six one seven, nine, three one, ten thirty and 135 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.440 we always have this triple eight number. I'm not sure 136 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:56.720 if anybody takes advantage of triple eight number anymore, but 137 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.200 it's triple eight nine two, nine, ten thirty. We'll be 138 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:04.000 back with phone call later on tonight. We will certainly 139 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.480 talk about what has gone on in the Middle East 140 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:11.320 today and hopefully as dawn begins to encroach. In the 141 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.000 Middle East, it's morning over there, it's tomorrow. But let 142 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.240 us hope that everything goes well and hostages are released, 143 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.240 and that this ceasefire turns into some form of a 144 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.399 permanent ceasefire and maybe even some sort of an agreement 145 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.639 where some form of order can be restored. And I 146 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.000 also will talk a little bit later on about a 147 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:36.960 couple of other more local subjects. But we start off 148 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:41.639 tonight with Joe Biden, and you're my guest tonight. I 149 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.320 have no experts schedule. I could have brought in any 150 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:49.279 number of experts to comment on the president's legacy, but 151 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.679 I would much prefer to hear from all of you. 152 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.440 Back on Nightside right after this commercial break and the 153 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.039 news at the bottom of the hour, It's night Side 154 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:04.279 with Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio. We're gonna start it 155 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:07.240 off first with Paul in Needham. Hey, Paul, thanks for 156 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.519 checking in. By the way, Congratulations on that vote yesterday 157 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.159 on the MBTA Communities Act. That was kind of a 158 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:17.320 pretty overwhelming no. 159 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:25.720 He is happy new year did on the grading system. 160 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.159 I give Biden a complete failure. I wish him happiness 161 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.000 and good health in the years to come. But I 162 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.120 am very glad to see him go. I listened to 163 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.559 that speech tonight and there was one thing that really 164 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.960 disturbed me. Twice he mentioned just pay your fair share. Twice. 165 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:49.639 He mentioned then that's that family has been under suspicion 166 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:57.919 and investigation for years receiving money illegally. His son was. 167 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.600 I got to just say this, paull nothing has ever 168 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.240 been proven. There have been all sorts of allegations I'm 169 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.799 and I'm not familiar with those, and often people will say, oh, well, 170 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.200 this month is fired, but nothing has ever been proven. 171 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:15.080 And I, okay. 172 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.000 What about I know he's not responsible for his son's actions, 173 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.279 but what about the son he was convicted of. He 174 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:23.039 owes one point four million in federal taxes, doesn't. 175 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.279 He that's true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe that. I 176 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.919 believe that he has some sort of pal who pays 177 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.399 it off for him. Most people who owe the IRA's 178 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.080 money do not have a dad who's president of the 179 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:39.759 United States or a good friend who will pay off 180 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.840 those taxes for him. You know what I'm saying. We 181 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:44.840 got maybe a relationship there. 182 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.440 He tried the committee. He did commit in the Legal 183 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.159 Act that the son is And I say, I know 184 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.679 that the file is not responsible for the son's behavior, 185 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:56.240 but I still he said his son as a decent, 186 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.200 good human being, and that's the foulest opinion of the son. 187 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:02.440 But the bottom line is the sun always one point 188 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.840 four million in taxes. But he's telling me and other 189 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.879 people that are listening, you pay your fair year. Yeah, 190 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.159 twice he mentioned that I found very disturbing. 191 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.960 Well, the way you got to remember this just to 192 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.559 support your argument, the son not only had the advantage 193 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.879 of having a dad as president and having someone step 194 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.639 forward and pay the one point four million in taxes, 195 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.360 and also I think there were some people who paid 196 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.759 a lot of money for the son's artwork. But put 197 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:34.840 that aside, I believe President Biden did pardon his son, 198 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:43.159 and that sort of kind of goes against the axiom 199 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.840 that no one should be above the law, because I 200 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:49.080 think if you're getting a presidential pardon from your from 201 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.559 your dad, that kind of puts you in a category 202 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.399 of distinction. Let's put it like that. 203 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:00.879 I think that the way he handled Afghanic was bad. 204 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.159 He mentioned also about all the jobs he created. I 205 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:06.000 don't know how many millions of jobs he said he 206 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.720 created Yeah, I doubt that's true. I doubt that's true. 207 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.200 Well, what happened is, you know, was that a lot 208 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.240 of companies because of COVID closed and a lot of 209 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:20.000 people lost jobs. And then there was an effort between 210 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.399 both in fairness, both the Trump administration and the Biden 211 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:27.519 administration to restore the economy. And slowly but surely, there 212 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:31.039 was a vaccine that was developed, and there was a 213 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.600 lot of controversy about it, but it was developed, remember 214 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.279 warp speed. And once the vaccine came along, people's anxieties 215 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.600 left a little bit and people slowly but surely went 216 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:44.840 back to work. So on when COVID occurred. When COVID 217 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:51.759 arrived in late January early February of two thousand, Donald 218 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.840 Trump was president of the United States. So for the 219 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:58.600 next twelve months we lost jobs, There's no question about that. 220 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.600 Once Joe Biden became president in January twenty twenty one, 221 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.240 a lot of those jobs started to come back because 222 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:12.039 the economy came back and COVID. You know, as horrible 223 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:18.600 as COVID was, it is not as damaging economically as 224 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.440 dangerous today as it was back then, nor was it 225 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.360 as dangerous in twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two 226 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.600 and jobs came back. So yeah, it's like he could 227 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.879 take he could say seventeen million. But I think you 228 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.639 got to put into some context in what is what 229 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:34.320 you're trying to do. 230 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.120 But again, I say to tell the public, do I 231 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.440 pity your fairst year is? And that's family's under a 232 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.879 lot of suspicion, and uh it's. 233 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:47.279 Also anyways, it's no one ever defines what fairs year means. 234 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:52.759 I mean, that's that is a talking point, and no 235 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.159 one what does it mean? Do certain people who make 236 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.879 up to say, I don't know, fifty thousand dollars pay 237 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.360 nothing to people will make up to one hundred thousand 238 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.039 dollars pay nothing to people who pay up to make 239 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:06.919 up to a million dollars pay nothing. And then we 240 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:11.679 just tax anybody who makes over a million dollars, you know, uh, 241 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.720 seventy five percent. I don't know. I mean, it's it's 242 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:19.480 a moving target. Paul, did you vote everybody on the 243 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.600 MBTA of Communities acting need him? 244 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:24.039 No? I did not. 245 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.039 Well watch it closely. There was a very it was 246 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:32.240 a very interesting vote yesterday. And it's an issue that 247 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.320 that you know, We talk about a lot here on Nightside. 248 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.159 Thanks so much, Paul, Thank you all right, you too 249 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.480 if you like to talk about President Biden's farewell speech, 250 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.879 or also just give us your assessment of how he did. 251 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:51.000 I mean pretty much all the statistics, whatever you want. Uh, 252 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.279 the four years of Joe Biden are about to end. 253 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:55.440 They still have a few days left. But I'd love 254 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:57.240 to have you give him a grade. Paul did not 255 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.320 give him a good grade. Love to know what you think. 256 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.360 Let's see what Flawence. Thanks, Florence and Groveland. Next on Nightside. 257 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:08.200 Florence welcome. Oh Florence may not be there, so we'll 258 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.279 put Florence on hold and we'll go to Joe and Salem. Hi, Joe, 259 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:12.120 how are you welcome? 260 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:15.559 Dan, Thanks for taking my call. I'm doing great. How 261 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:16.080 are you doing? 262 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.799 I'm doing excellent, excellent. We well, we're talking about Joe 263 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:22.240 Biden's speech. Did you watch the speech? 264 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.279 No, I caught it on WBZ. I did not watch it. 265 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.720 Well, I mean, thank you very much for listening to 266 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.720 it on WBS. What I meant by that, obviously there's 267 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:35.279 not much action in a presidential address. You can listen 268 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:39.080 to it, and so what'd you think, well. 269 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.720 I thought, you know, it was you know what's expected. 270 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.960 He's going to cover the high points and everything. But 271 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.279 I'd have to give him an ad because I think 272 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.679 he's he had a good team around him. Uh. He 273 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.720 did his best, for sure, for the country. I don't 274 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.720 think some people do that. He was working for himself. 275 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.839 He certainly wasn't selling sneakers and bibles and walking things 276 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.559 to the American people while he was in office. I 277 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.880 think was focused on his job, and I think he 278 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.759 set the table for the next guy saying, look, I 279 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.160 didn't I didn't achieve a total solution for climate change 280 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:23.319 for AI for billionaires controlling our economy. And I think 281 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.960 the paying the fair share, I thought that was more 282 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.160 directed to billionaires. Maybe I misunderstood that, but I thought 283 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:33.519 the paying the fair share was the billionaires the oligarch, 284 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.079 so to say, because we don't want a Putin style 285 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.799 cryptocracy here. And I think he was setting up the 286 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.880 major issues. I didn't hear him mentioned Greenland, Canada or 287 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:48.759 Panama as some of the priorities of the USA, and 288 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.960 I'm glad I didn't. But I did hear AI the 289 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.119 economy and the climate crisis. 290 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.400 Sure, well, let me. Let's let's talk about the billionaires. Okay, 291 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.240 let's tax all the billionaires one hundred per cent every 292 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.319 dollar that they make. We tax him. How much of 293 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.279 the federal debt do you think that would take off 294 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:07.759 the books? 295 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.440 Not much? Well, I'm not saying much. Well, I hope. 296 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:16.680 I think thirty five trillion uh is too high for 297 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.359 this country to carry. But at the. 298 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.400 Second it's thirty seven. Just to bring up to day 299 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.519 the part, well, that's well, that's a big that's not 300 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.640 a huge difference, but it's going in the wrong direction. 301 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:28.480 We agree on that. 302 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.720 Let me ask you this, Uh, it probably won't take 303 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:35.599 off much, so we need to do some maybe some 304 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.319 structural things. But I don't think tax cuts for billionaires 305 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:42.400 with what you call it thirty seven trillion dour debt, 306 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.960 I don't think the timing for that is right at 307 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.920 this moment. That's uh, that's my personal know. 308 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.839 Let's see what what Donald Trump puts forward. You know, 309 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.839 when when the President spoke tonight, he talked about robber 310 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.920 barons and busting trust and olive grape of the wealthy 311 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.839 and all of that. There are some really wealthy people 312 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:08.559 in America. You're absolutely right, and most of those wealthy 313 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:13.599 people supply jobs. I mean, they're not generally sitting on 314 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:17.039 their wealth. They're trying to reinvest it. And are you 315 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.799 sure that at the top for guys, for folks like 316 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:21.000 me go ahead. 317 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.640 There's a lot of stock buybacks. I don't know if 318 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:29.319 you've even during Biden. You know, companies like Exxon and Chevron, 319 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.519 they're buying out other companies that are in their business. 320 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:40.160 They're not investing in alternative energy technologies projects or anything 321 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:45.200 on that line. And it's prolonging the agony of you know, 322 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.920 the climate crisis basically, and it hits in different ways 323 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:54.000 in different areas. And you know, they're they're they're misguiding 324 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.920 people to talk about the budget for firefighters in Los 325 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.640 Angeles that has nothing to do with the hurricanes in 326 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.000 Floria or North Carolina, And it doesn't have anything to 327 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.640 do with one hundred mile an hour winds in California. 328 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.519 Not that seventeen million dollars in their budget would have 329 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.200 made any difference on that, well, it would have made. 330 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.200 A difference, of course, it would have made a difference. 331 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.640 How can you how could you you know, you want. 332 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.400 To count one hundred mile an hour winds? I don't 333 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.119 think they could have thought that. I don't care what 334 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.000 kind of equipment or manpower they have. I don't think 335 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:23.839 they can fight hundred mile an hour wins. 336 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.559 Well, the well, look, the more and. 337 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.839 The and the dry underbrush, the more the what and 338 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.440 the dry underbrush there was one. 339 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.640 Hundred That's another that's another good question. Uh. Was that 340 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.559 dry underbrushed something that was foreseeable? Was that an issue 341 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.559 that perhaps some work could have been done and maybe 342 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.039 those fires would not have been as ferocious? The Santa 343 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:50.799 Anna winds, as I understand, that are kind of what 344 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:53.480 would we have? We have we have cold weather in January, 345 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.400 they have Santa Anna wins Uh, October, November and January. 346 00:20:57.480 --> 00:20:59.759 So uh, I mean this will look. 347 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:02.720 But they have no rain dan out there. That's the 348 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:05.759 other thing. So you're to your point, could those lands. 349 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.039 Well, by the way, man, by the way, it. 350 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:09.319 Is not your point. 351 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.519 Well, I want to respond to one thing you said, 352 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:16.799 just factually, in the year, You're correct, the rain in 353 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.480 twenty twenty four has been very, very sparse. In twenty 354 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.759 twenty three, My understanding is that Los Angeles had records 355 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:28.160 amount of rain, and what that records amount of rain 356 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:32.720 did was it spurred growth in the forests rain, you know, right, 357 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.920 and so so, yeah, there are things that were going 358 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:37.480 on that people should have been able to foresee and said, hey, 359 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:39.480 maybe we need to start clearing some of that stuff out. 360 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:41.440 Go ahead. I didn't. I did not mean well, I 361 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.680 meant to interrupt you, but I wanted to clarify what 362 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:44.200 you were saying. 363 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.799 Yeah, yeah, so I'm agreeing with you, though it could 364 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:49.720 have been better managed. That's not going to do it. 365 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:52.839 When you have the situation you had the year before 366 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.440 where there were these record rains, then you have no 367 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.319 rain whatsoever that dries out everything, including the new growth 368 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.440 and all that. You're setting up for disaster. And I 369 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.000 don't know what kind of management, but we got. 370 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.119 I'll tell you what kind of management. It was bad management. 371 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:11.839 You've got to understand that we can't stop Santa Anna winds. 372 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.480 As I understand it now. Maybe there's a way that 373 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:17.640 you could propose that it stops Santa Anna winds. 374 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.359 Impose something else. I can propose how to avert a 375 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.920 climate crisis. And I'm just parroting what the leading climate 376 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:31.960 sciences say, and basically, when you add carbon to the 377 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.440 atmosphere to the skies. You're going to trap heat on 378 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:38.359 the surface of the earth. So that's in the air, 379 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.880 the land, and the water, okay. On the surface of 380 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:47.279 the earth you trap more heat okay, And that's drought okay. 381 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:49.640 And then when drought happens, you have a lot of 382 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.640 a vapor evaporation. Then you get these crazy biblical rains 383 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.519 once a year. And that's the thing, Dan. Everybody talks 384 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.799 about a thousand year storms, a thousand years fires, but 385 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.680 they're happening every year, and so there's something systemic about that. 386 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.680 And the answer is with the climate sciences say all 387 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.960 the time, you got to cut the file fuels out. 388 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:10.720 It doesn't work. 389 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I understand, and we can. You 390 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:14.799 know what I'm gonna do. We will have some some 391 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:19.000 climate change, thorough climate change stories. I can only tell you. 392 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:20.319 I don't know how old you are, but I bet 393 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.799 you're younger than I am, because everybody's younger than I am. 394 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:24.519 How old are you? 395 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:26.359 Not? Much? Oh much? 396 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.480 Do you remember? You remember the blizzard of seventy eight? 397 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.839 Do you remember the blizzard of seventy eight? 398 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.319 Yeah, I was visiting here then. I didn't live here then, 399 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:36.880 but yeah I do. 400 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.119 Yeah, I mean, we thought that was catastrophic. Do you 401 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:44.640