Speaker 1: Well, welcome back everyone. The President has just delivered his
Speaker 1: farewell address to the nation when about nineteen minutes I
Speaker 1: hope you listen to it here on WBC courtesy of
Speaker 1: ABC News. And it was a statement of his accomplishments,
Speaker 1: his view and his dreams. And we can hit some
Speaker 1: of the highlights, but what I'm looking for initially, and
Speaker 1: we'll probably take a break at eight point thirty here
Speaker 1: and try to catch up a little bit, so if
Speaker 1: you want to try to get in and respond to
Speaker 1: what the president said, There was nothing monumental in this
Speaker 1: speech tonight, nothing especially memorable from what I can from
Speaker 1: what I heard, I have no idea who wrote the speech,
Speaker 1: but you know, he started taking credit, which is understandable
Speaker 1: for the Israeli Hamas hostage deal. He was asked today
Speaker 1: by a reporter if whether or not he should take
Speaker 1: credit or if former president soon to be president Donald
Speaker 1: Trump should That will be sorted out. And then he
Speaker 1: began with a story about the Statue of Liberty, talked
Speaker 1: about checks and balances, complimented his vice president, talked about
Speaker 1: his accomplishments once in a century pandemic, the recovery of
Speaker 1: which was underway when he took office in January of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. He did take credit for recovery from COVID.
Speaker 1: Talked about new roads, bridges, semiconductors, medicare, power to negotiate.
Speaker 1: They talked about medical care for veterans and their families.
Speaker 1: Seventeen million new jobs. Many of those jobs, as you know,
Speaker 1: were lost during COVID, and many of them came back.
Speaker 1: He talked about strengthening NATO, Ukraine still being free, no
Speaker 1: reference to the debaclet in Afghanistan of the summer of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. He wished, without naming the incoming administration
Speaker 1: to succeed. No mention of his successor or his predecessor
Speaker 1: for that. Donald Trump talked about Then he got serious
Speaker 1: and talked about the dangerous concentration of power, the oligarchy
Speaker 1: of the wealthy, as he put it. Talked about how
Speaker 1: one hundred years ago Robert Robert Barns and trust needed
Speaker 1: to be busted and that the same way today, wealthy
Speaker 1: have to pay their fair share. Talked about the threat
Speaker 1: of climate change, invoked briefly North Carolina and California, which,
Speaker 1: of course we're all I think very much aware. I've
Speaker 1: talked about powerful forces, powerful forces that are out and about.
Speaker 1: He talked about Matta, It didn't mention Metta Facebook Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: who has said that Matta will no longer fact check, Well,
Speaker 1: just a parenthetical comment on that. We have been doing
Speaker 1: fact checking, I think in this country for a long time,
Speaker 1: and it's considered political debate, and I think we'll do
Speaker 1: just fine with or without fact checking. We've had other
Speaker 1: fact checkers newspapers besides Facebook, so I think we will
Speaker 1: survive with the end of fact checking. Talked about the
Speaker 1: threats of AI, the potential benefits, but also the threats.
Speaker 1: He talked about the necessity of term limits for the
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court eighteen years. No mention of term limits
Speaker 1: for members of Congress. However, he did say members of
Speaker 1: Congress should not be allowed to trade in stock, and
Speaker 1: he did say that there should be a constitutional amendment
Speaker 1: making it very clear that no president should be immune
Speaker 1: from prosecution, no president should be above the law. I
Speaker 1: think we know who he was thinking about when he
Speaker 1: talked about that. He concluded by thanking his administration, members
Speaker 1: of his administration first responders, who obviously have been in
Speaker 1: the forefront of some real crises in this country. In
Speaker 1: the last few months, between the hurricanes and the storms
Speaker 1: in the southeast and the fires near Los Angeles. Thank
Speaker 1: the military specifically thanked again Vice President Harris for a
Speaker 1: second time, and the historic first gentleman thanked his wife,
Speaker 1: doctor Jill. Biden talked to his entire thanked his entire
Speaker 1: family without mentioning anyone other than doctor Biden did not
Speaker 1: mention his son Hunter, which is fine, and then he
Speaker 1: thanked the American people, and that was it. It was
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes. I don't think it will go down as
Speaker 1: the most memorable presidential farewell in history, but it is done,
Speaker 1: and he has a couple of opportunities in the next
Speaker 1: few days perhaps well. Of course, on Monday, will he
Speaker 1: will welcome President elect and Missus Trump to the White House.
Speaker 1: I assume that he will ride in the motorcade with
Speaker 1: President Elect and Missus Trump to the Capitol. My suspicion,
Speaker 1: although I don't know it for sure, is at that
Speaker 1: point he would depart and head to andrewser for space
Speaker 1: for a short flight home to Delaware or a longer
Speaker 1: flight to somewhere else. I mean, he has many friends
Speaker 1: around the country, and many of those friends are wealthy
Speaker 1: friends who have lovely places for where where he could
Speaker 1: vacation or where he could move into retirement, I guess
Speaker 1: would be the more appropriate term. So I just love
Speaker 1: to hear from each of you your reaction. I'd like
Speaker 1: to focus, at least for the balance this hour on
Speaker 1: the administration, which now is let's see, it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty hours left. So in this administration,
Speaker 1: the days are dwindling down for President Biden and our numbers.
Speaker 1: You can join us here on Nightside. Again, I should
Speaker 1: have introduced myself. I'm Dan Ray, the host of NIGHTSI,
Speaker 1: and I assume if you're listening to WBZ at this
Speaker 1: the night on a weeknight, you kind of have had
Speaker 1: that figured out. Rob is back in the control room.
Speaker 1: So I'll ask you for two really two questions. What
Speaker 1: did you think of the speech? I thought the speech
Speaker 1: was pretty unremarkable. I thought it was a nice summation,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't anything new. I guess in a farewell
Speaker 1: speech you don't learn much that is new. You learn
Speaker 1: about the perspective of the person who's saying farewell, and tonight,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden said farewell, fifty two years in public service.
Speaker 1: Was elected as a United States Senator while he was
Speaker 1: twenty nine years of age in November of nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 1: and he turned thirty by time he took the oath
Speaker 1: of office that following January and January of nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1: So he has been with I guess for just four
Speaker 1: years when he was outside of public office during the
Speaker 1: first Trump administration. So however you cut it, it's a
Speaker 1: half a century as an elected official, as a US Senator,
Speaker 1: as a vice president for four years, for eight years,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and as the president for four years. So
Speaker 1: it's a long run for President Biden, and it will
Speaker 1: end in a few more days. That sort of in
Speaker 1: some respects technically ended tonight, but he will remain President
Speaker 1: of the United States, and I certainly wish him well
Speaker 1: and wish him a lot of health, good health in
Speaker 1: the years to come. One of the things that we
Speaker 1: will be watching, I think, in the next few days,
Speaker 1: is whether or not there are any other members of
Speaker 1: the Biden family who President Biden decides that he needs
Speaker 1: to pardon perspectively or retrospectively. We'll figure that out tonight.
Speaker 1: Your reaction to the President's comments, and there was nothing
Speaker 1: that he said that was inappropriate. I think it might
Speaker 1: have been nice if he mentioned Donald Trump's name, but
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. Certainly he was not treated particularly
Speaker 1: well by Donald Trump in twenty twenty or in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, There's no no doubt about that. But also
Speaker 1: i'd love to get from you, and you know, if
Speaker 1: you're a Biden supporter, give us a rating of the
Speaker 1: Biden years. History will write the record that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: will have to live with historically. But I'd love to
Speaker 1: know what you think successful. I think there are some
Speaker 1: areas of success in some areas of failure. As often
Speaker 1: with precedents, it is a mixed bag. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1: Here's the number six one, seven, two, five, four ten
Speaker 1: thirty six one seven, nine, three one, ten thirty and
Speaker 1: we always have this triple eight number. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if anybody takes advantage of triple eight number anymore, but
Speaker 1: it's triple eight nine two, nine, ten thirty. We'll be
Speaker 1: back with phone call later on tonight. We will certainly
Speaker 1: talk about what has gone on in the Middle East
Speaker 1: today and hopefully as dawn begins to encroach. In the
Speaker 1: Middle East, it's morning over there, it's tomorrow. But let
Speaker 1: us hope that everything goes well and hostages are released,
Speaker 1: and that this ceasefire turns into some form of a
Speaker 1: permanent ceasefire and maybe even some sort of an agreement
Speaker 1: where some form of order can be restored. And I
Speaker 1: also will talk a little bit later on about a
Speaker 1: couple of other more local subjects. But we start off
Speaker 1: tonight with Joe Biden, and you're my guest tonight. I
Speaker 1: have no experts schedule. I could have brought in any
Speaker 1: number of experts to comment on the president's legacy, but
Speaker 1: I would much prefer to hear from all of you.
Speaker 1: Back on Nightside right after this commercial break and the
Speaker 1: news at the bottom of the hour, It's night Side
Speaker 1: with Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio. We're gonna start it
Speaker 1: off first with Paul in Needham. Hey, Paul, thanks for
Speaker 1: checking in. By the way, Congratulations on that vote yesterday
Speaker 1: on the MBTA Communities Act. That was kind of a
Speaker 1: pretty overwhelming no.
Speaker 2: He is happy new year did on the grading system.
Speaker 2: I give Biden a complete failure. I wish him happiness
Speaker 2: and good health in the years to come. But I
Speaker 2: am very glad to see him go. I listened to
Speaker 2: that speech tonight and there was one thing that really
Speaker 2: disturbed me. Twice he mentioned just pay your fair share. Twice.
Speaker 2: He mentioned then that's that family has been under suspicion
Speaker 2: and investigation for years receiving money illegally. His son was.
Speaker 1: I got to just say this, paull nothing has ever
Speaker 1: been proven. There have been all sorts of allegations I'm
Speaker 1: and I'm not familiar with those, and often people will say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this month is fired, but nothing has ever been proven.
Speaker 1: And I, okay.
Speaker 2: What about I know he's not responsible for his son's actions,
Speaker 2: but what about the son he was convicted of. He
Speaker 2: owes one point four million in federal taxes, doesn't.
Speaker 1: He that's true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe that. I
Speaker 1: believe that he has some sort of pal who pays
Speaker 1: it off for him. Most people who owe the IRA's
Speaker 1: money do not have a dad who's president of the
Speaker 1: United States or a good friend who will pay off
Speaker 1: those taxes for him. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: got maybe a relationship there.
Speaker 2: He tried the committee. He did commit in the Legal
Speaker 2: Act that the son is And I say, I know
Speaker 2: that the file is not responsible for the son's behavior,
Speaker 2: but I still he said his son as a decent,
Speaker 2: good human being, and that's the foulest opinion of the son.
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is the sun always one point
Speaker 2: four million in taxes. But he's telling me and other
Speaker 2: people that are listening, you pay your fair year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twice he mentioned that I found very disturbing.
Speaker 1: Well, the way you got to remember this just to
Speaker 1: support your argument, the son not only had the advantage
Speaker 1: of having a dad as president and having someone step
Speaker 1: forward and pay the one point four million in taxes,
Speaker 1: and also I think there were some people who paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money for the son's artwork. But put
Speaker 1: that aside, I believe President Biden did pardon his son,
Speaker 1: and that sort of kind of goes against the axiom
Speaker 1: that no one should be above the law, because I
Speaker 1: think if you're getting a presidential pardon from your from
Speaker 1: your dad, that kind of puts you in a category
Speaker 1: of distinction. Let's put it like that.
Speaker 2: I think that the way he handled Afghanic was bad.
Speaker 2: He mentioned also about all the jobs he created. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many millions of jobs he said he
Speaker 2: created Yeah, I doubt that's true. I doubt that's true.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened is, you know, was that a lot
Speaker 1: of companies because of COVID closed and a lot of
Speaker 1: people lost jobs. And then there was an effort between
Speaker 1: both in fairness, both the Trump administration and the Biden
Speaker 1: administration to restore the economy. And slowly but surely, there
Speaker 1: was a vaccine that was developed, and there was a
Speaker 1: lot of controversy about it, but it was developed, remember
Speaker 1: warp speed. And once the vaccine came along, people's anxieties
Speaker 1: left a little bit and people slowly but surely went
Speaker 1: back to work. So on when COVID occurred. When COVID
Speaker 1: arrived in late January early February of two thousand, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was president of the United States. So for the
Speaker 1: next twelve months we lost jobs, There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: Once Joe Biden became president in January twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: a lot of those jobs started to come back because
Speaker 1: the economy came back and COVID. You know, as horrible
Speaker 1: as COVID was, it is not as damaging economically as
Speaker 1: dangerous today as it was back then, nor was it
Speaker 1: as dangerous in twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: and jobs came back. So yeah, it's like he could
Speaker 1: take he could say seventeen million. But I think you
Speaker 1: got to put into some context in what is what
Speaker 1: you're trying to do.
Speaker 2: But again, I say to tell the public, do I
Speaker 2: pity your fairst year is? And that's family's under a
Speaker 2: lot of suspicion, and uh it's.
Speaker 1: Also anyways, it's no one ever defines what fairs year means.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that is a talking point, and no
Speaker 1: one what does it mean? Do certain people who make
Speaker 1: up to say, I don't know, fifty thousand dollars pay
Speaker 1: nothing to people will make up to one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars pay nothing to people who pay up to make
Speaker 1: up to a million dollars pay nothing. And then we
Speaker 1: just tax anybody who makes over a million dollars, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: seventy five percent. I don't know. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: a moving target. Paul, did you vote everybody on the
Speaker 1: MBTA of Communities acting need him?
Speaker 2: No? I did not.
Speaker 1: Well watch it closely. There was a very it was
Speaker 1: a very interesting vote yesterday. And it's an issue that
Speaker 1: that you know, We talk about a lot here on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Paul, Thank you all right, you too
Speaker 1: if you like to talk about President Biden's farewell speech,
Speaker 1: or also just give us your assessment of how he did.
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much all the statistics, whatever you want. Uh,
Speaker 1: the four years of Joe Biden are about to end.
Speaker 1: They still have a few days left. But I'd love
Speaker 1: to have you give him a grade. Paul did not
Speaker 1: give him a good grade. Love to know what you think.
Speaker 1: Let's see what Flawence. Thanks, Florence and Groveland. Next on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Florence welcome. Oh Florence may not be there, so we'll
Speaker 1: put Florence on hold and we'll go to Joe and Salem. Hi, Joe,
Speaker 1: how are you welcome?
Speaker 2: Dan, Thanks for taking my call. I'm doing great. How
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent, excellent. We well, we're talking about Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's speech. Did you watch the speech?
Speaker 2: No, I caught it on WBZ. I did not watch it.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, thank you very much for listening to
Speaker 1: it on WBS. What I meant by that, obviously there's
Speaker 1: not much action in a presidential address. You can listen
Speaker 1: to it, and so what'd you think, well.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, it was you know what's expected.
Speaker 2: He's going to cover the high points and everything. But
Speaker 2: I'd have to give him an ad because I think
Speaker 2: he's he had a good team around him. Uh. He
Speaker 2: did his best, for sure, for the country. I don't
Speaker 2: think some people do that. He was working for himself.
Speaker 2: He certainly wasn't selling sneakers and bibles and walking things
Speaker 2: to the American people while he was in office. I
Speaker 2: think was focused on his job, and I think he
Speaker 2: set the table for the next guy saying, look, I
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't achieve a total solution for climate change
Speaker 2: for AI for billionaires controlling our economy. And I think
Speaker 2: the paying the fair share, I thought that was more
Speaker 2: directed to billionaires. Maybe I misunderstood that, but I thought
Speaker 2: the paying the fair share was the billionaires the oligarch,
Speaker 2: so to say, because we don't want a Putin style
Speaker 2: cryptocracy here. And I think he was setting up the
Speaker 2: major issues. I didn't hear him mentioned Greenland, Canada or
Speaker 2: Panama as some of the priorities of the USA, and
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't. But I did hear AI the
Speaker 2: economy and the climate crisis.
Speaker 1: Sure, well, let me. Let's let's talk about the billionaires. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's tax all the billionaires one hundred per cent every
Speaker 1: dollar that they make. We tax him. How much of
Speaker 1: the federal debt do you think that would take off
Speaker 1: the books?
Speaker 2: Not much? Well, I'm not saying much. Well, I hope.
Speaker 2: I think thirty five trillion uh is too high for
Speaker 2: this country to carry. But at the.
Speaker 3: Second it's thirty seven. Just to bring up to day
Speaker 3: the part, well, that's well, that's a big that's not
Speaker 3: a huge difference, but it's going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 3: We agree on that.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Uh, it probably won't take
Speaker 2: off much, so we need to do some maybe some
Speaker 2: structural things. But I don't think tax cuts for billionaires
Speaker 2: with what you call it thirty seven trillion dour debt,
Speaker 2: I don't think the timing for that is right at
Speaker 2: this moment. That's uh, that's my personal know.
Speaker 1: Let's see what what Donald Trump puts forward. You know,
Speaker 1: when when the President spoke tonight, he talked about robber
Speaker 1: barons and busting trust and olive grape of the wealthy
Speaker 1: and all of that. There are some really wealthy people
Speaker 1: in America. You're absolutely right, and most of those wealthy
Speaker 1: people supply jobs. I mean, they're not generally sitting on
Speaker 1: their wealth. They're trying to reinvest it. And are you
Speaker 1: sure that at the top for guys, for folks like
Speaker 1: me go ahead.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stock buybacks. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've even during Biden. You know, companies like Exxon and Chevron,
Speaker 2: they're buying out other companies that are in their business.
Speaker 2: They're not investing in alternative energy technologies projects or anything
Speaker 2: on that line. And it's prolonging the agony of you know,
Speaker 2: the climate crisis basically, and it hits in different ways
Speaker 2: in different areas. And you know, they're they're they're misguiding
Speaker 2: people to talk about the budget for firefighters in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles that has nothing to do with the hurricanes in
Speaker 2: Floria or North Carolina, And it doesn't have anything to
Speaker 2: do with one hundred mile an hour winds in California.
Speaker 2: Not that seventeen million dollars in their budget would have
Speaker 2: made any difference on that, well, it would have made.
Speaker 1: A difference, of course, it would have made a difference.
Speaker 1: How can you how could you you know, you want.
Speaker 2: To count one hundred mile an hour winds? I don't
Speaker 2: think they could have thought that. I don't care what
Speaker 2: kind of equipment or manpower they have. I don't think
Speaker 2: they can fight hundred mile an hour wins.
Speaker 1: Well, the well, look, the more and.
Speaker 2: The and the dry underbrush, the more the what and
Speaker 2: the dry underbrush there was one.
Speaker 1: Hundred That's another that's another good question. Uh. Was that
Speaker 1: dry underbrushed something that was foreseeable? Was that an issue
Speaker 1: that perhaps some work could have been done and maybe
Speaker 1: those fires would not have been as ferocious? The Santa
Speaker 1: Anna winds, as I understand, that are kind of what
Speaker 1: would we have? We have we have cold weather in January,
Speaker 1: they have Santa Anna wins Uh, October, November and January.
Speaker 1: So uh, I mean this will look.
Speaker 2: But they have no rain dan out there. That's the
Speaker 2: other thing. So you're to your point, could those lands.
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, man, by the way, it.
Speaker 2: Is not your point.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to respond to one thing you said,
Speaker 1: just factually, in the year, You're correct, the rain in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four has been very, very sparse. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, My understanding is that Los Angeles had records
Speaker 1: amount of rain, and what that records amount of rain
Speaker 1: did was it spurred growth in the forests rain, you know, right,
Speaker 1: and so so, yeah, there are things that were going
Speaker 1: on that people should have been able to foresee and said, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we need to start clearing some of that stuff out.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I didn't. I did not mean well, I
Speaker 1: meant to interrupt you, but I wanted to clarify what
Speaker 1: you were saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'm agreeing with you, though it could
Speaker 2: have been better managed. That's not going to do it.
Speaker 2: When you have the situation you had the year before
Speaker 2: where there were these record rains, then you have no
Speaker 2: rain whatsoever that dries out everything, including the new growth
Speaker 2: and all that. You're setting up for disaster. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what kind of management, but we got.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what kind of management. It was bad management.
Speaker 1: You've got to understand that we can't stop Santa Anna winds.
Speaker 1: As I understand it now. Maybe there's a way that
Speaker 1: you could propose that it stops Santa Anna winds.
Speaker 2: Impose something else. I can propose how to avert a
Speaker 2: climate crisis. And I'm just parroting what the leading climate
Speaker 2: sciences say, and basically, when you add carbon to the
Speaker 2: atmosphere to the skies. You're going to trap heat on
Speaker 2: the surface of the earth. So that's in the air,
Speaker 2: the land, and the water, okay. On the surface of
Speaker 2: the earth you trap more heat okay, And that's drought okay.
Speaker 2: And then when drought happens, you have a lot of
Speaker 2: a vapor evaporation. Then you get these crazy biblical rains
Speaker 2: once a year. And that's the thing, Dan. Everybody talks
Speaker 2: about a thousand year storms, a thousand years fires, but
Speaker 2: they're happening every year, and so there's something systemic about that.
Speaker 2: And the answer is with the climate sciences say all
Speaker 2: the time, you got to cut the file fuels out.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I understand, and we can. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. We will have some some
Speaker 1: climate change, thorough climate change stories. I can only tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know how old you are, but I bet
Speaker 1: you're younger than I am, because everybody's younger than I am.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 2: Not? Much? Oh much?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? You remember the blizzard of seventy eight?
Speaker 1: Do you remember the blizzard of seventy eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was visiting here then. I didn't live here then,
Speaker 2: but yeah I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we thought that was catastrophic. Do you
Speaker 1: remember Hurricane Diane from nineteen fifty four. We've had these now,
Speaker 1: believe me. Yeah, we've had You can look them up.
Speaker 1: I mean there is a history of some storms here. Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I want to save the planet too. I also
Speaker 1: want to don't want to destroy our economy. And there's
Speaker 1: some places around the world that are just belching stuff
Speaker 1: into the atmosphere, places like India, Pakistan and China. They
Speaker 1: ain't changing, and I we should do we can whatever
Speaker 1: we can, but we also need to do some work
Speaker 1: with it a change.
Speaker 2: We're not changing either, We're not.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Why are you looking like, how.
Speaker 1: Many electric vehicles were on the road here in America
Speaker 1: twenty years ago? Other than many?
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: So our electric vehicles slowly but surely coming online.
Speaker 2: I hope you're telling a stranglehold on that industry. I
Speaker 2: hope they are.
Speaker 1: But again, you said to me, we're not changing. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you we are changing. That's all Joe. I hate
Speaker 1: to do this year, but I'm up in my break.
Speaker 1: This was an excellent call. Have you called before?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you gave me an assignment and I fulfilled it,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't get back to you because you had
Speaker 2: taken off or something. But on the immigration and the cages,
Speaker 2: I looked into that for you, and Obama did start it.
Speaker 2: They didn't use it as much as a policy as Trump,
Speaker 2: and it was on the APEC and that a lot
Speaker 2: of good news sources had it that way.
Speaker 1: And well, I think I said, I think I said
Speaker 1: that that the pictures that we used of the children
Speaker 1: in cages were taken while President Obama was president. That
Speaker 1: was the point I was trying to get to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that. Thank you fact checking me,
Speaker 1: Thank you for fact checking me. Joe. I got to
Speaker 1: run call again anytime, anytime, and we'll do something on
Speaker 1: climate change. We'll get some We'll get some people on
Speaker 1: both sides of the equation.
Speaker 2: That's where my expertise is, and renewable energy and climate
Speaker 2: not climate as much.
Speaker 1: Loved to a lot more about Send me some materials
Speaker 1: and we can work on it. Thank you much. Got
Speaker 1: to take a quick break here. Boy. Joe was a
Speaker 1: great caller. We disagreed on a lot, but I love
Speaker 1: that call. I hope you did as well. I got
Speaker 1: open lines six, one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 1: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. You heard
Speaker 1: or you watched President Obama tonight. Joe gives President Obama
Speaker 1: and a Paul gave him, didn't give him an a
Speaker 1: F I think he said a game in f I
Speaker 1: want to know what your grade is on President obama
Speaker 1: farewell speech tonight. You heard it is addressed to the
Speaker 1: nation President Biden. I'm sorry, what did I say? Rob?
Speaker 1: Tell me in my ear? Okay, I'm sorry. I was
Speaker 1: still thinking about what he President Biden's farewell speech tonight.
Speaker 1: These they keep changing, these presidents every four years. It's
Speaker 1: tough to keep up with them. Call us. He us
Speaker 1: called me back on Night's Side right after this. Now
Speaker 1: back to Dan Ray live from the Window World.
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Speaker 4: BOYIM a couple of minutes left here, So if you
Speaker 4: want to continue to talk about the president's farewell address tonight,
Speaker 4: you're more than welcome six one seven, two, five, four
Speaker 4: ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: What I would like to get to is the news
Speaker 1: story of the day, and that is a cease fire
Speaker 1: in the war between Israel and Gaza. I think that
Speaker 1: if you look back sixteen months ago when Israel was
Speaker 1: under attack by Hamas, this surprise attack at dawn on
Speaker 1: that Saturday morning. Israel was in a world of hurt.
Speaker 1: They have survived and they have turned the Middle East
Speaker 1: in an amazing way in a relatively short period of time.
Speaker 1: Hamas has been decimated, has the Lah literally destroyed in
Speaker 1: so many many ways. Assad is no longer in Damascus.
Speaker 1: The Middle East now is ripe for significant change. And
Speaker 1: I think that we've never had such an opportunity. And
Speaker 1: I know that President Trump is going to claim some credit.
Speaker 1: Certainly Joe Biden and the Biden administration will claim some credit,
Speaker 1: but I credit the Israeli government and specifically Benjamin Nattanyahu
Speaker 1: and the IDF forces. We will talk about that, and
Speaker 1: I will continue to talk about Biden. So those are
Speaker 1: the two options you have. Joe Biden's farewell speech and
Speaker 1: give You can give him what you think he should
Speaker 1: get for a final grade. Well, we also can talk
Speaker 1: about Israel and this amazing comeback that culminates today in
Speaker 1: a cease fire. Not the end of the war, but
Speaker 1: a ceasefire. We're back on Night's side. Right after the
Speaker 1: break light. These lines up and let's have some interesting
Speaker 1: conversation between now and midnight.