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your support. We have another example. It seems weird that
we're getting so many of these, but another example of
how now the truth can be told. Yeah, for some
reason we were unable to learn these things until a
week into the new administration. Here is yet another one.
Two former Politico reporters spoke candidly about efforts made by
their bosses to either slow walk or completely quash their
reporting on the Biden family during their time at that
news outlet, Politico. Indeed, you have two reporters, former political reporters,
I should say, uh Mark Capito who now works for
Axios and Tara Palmery who now works for Puck and
she does a podcast on the YouTube. And uh So,
Tara Palmery had Mark capitou In and I think you
have to say it like that. That's how it's pronounced capito,
or maybe it's capudo.
Speaker 1: Actually I don't know. Sorry, I feel like a fraud.
Speaker 2: So she had Mark on her podcast on her YouTube show,
and they were they were talking about their time I'm
over at Politico, and well, the name of the podcast
is called Somebody's Gotta Win. And I don't know if
this is you know them? Finally, shall we say, unburdened
by what has been right? And so now they are
able to discuss these things because they no longer work
for Politico. They're not worried about getting fired by Politico.
So maybe that's it, or maybe just maybe they're trying
to send this signal to the audience and to the
market and to the administration that if it was up
to them, they would have done things differently.
Speaker 3: Another great example when Politico did that terrible, ill fated
headline fifty one intelligence agents or former intelligence agents say
that the Hunter Biden laptop was disinformation or or the
hallmarks of disinformation. Turns out that story was closer to
disinformation because the Hunter Biden laptop appeared.
Speaker 4: To be true.
Speaker 5: But then Facebook also all stories down about the Hunter
Biden laptop, and I think Twitter right at the same time,
too correct.
Speaker 3: They punished the.
Speaker 1: New York Post.
Speaker 3: It didn't help. I mean Politico, my former employer, and
I knew at the time, didn't do itself any favors.
I was covering by it at the time, and I
remember coming to my editor and saying, Hey, we need
to write about the Hunter Biden laptop. And I was
told this came from on high at Politico. Don't write
about the laptop, don't talk about the laptop, and don't
tweet about the laptop. And the only thing Politico wound
up writing was that piece that called it disinformation, which
charitably could be called misinformation at the least.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I had a hard time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I wrote some pretty serious reporting on Hunter Biden, which
actually ended up getting him prosecuted, the story on the guy.
Speaker 3: And I remember consulting with me because you did the
original report of the gun and you came to me like,
how do I write about this? Like I'm like, honestly,
I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was hard to get it figured out. I
spent three three months on it. I went to the
laptop shop and I did all of the reporting and
Delaware and I did all of that, but yeah, I
had to be like much, it had to be one
hundred percent nailed down. I had everything, you know, the
police reports, every like. You know, I'm a solid reporter.
But I do wonder if it could have it would
have been published a little quicker, those different type story.
Speaker 3: Well, since we're spilling tea about the former employer, I
still have a copy of the story on my eternal
hard drive. In twenty nineteen, a rival presidential Democratic campaign
of Joe Biden's gave to me the tax line, the
oppo research the tax line on Hunter Biden for the
period of time that he worked at Barisma, and I
wrote what would have been a classic story saying, you know,
the former vice president's son was slapped well with a
big tax lien for the period of time that he
worked for this controversial Ukrainian oil concern or natural gas
concern which is haunting his father on the campaign trail.
That story was killed by the editors, and they gave
no explanation for that either. So that general experience, you know,
obviously the public doesn't know about those things. But as
a reporter, having witnessed the way in which the two.
Speaker 5: Weeks it gets we're just getting called like the terrible
in stream media. It's like, you don't understand the process there.
Speaker 3: We also don't understand the dumb decision the man cowardly.
Speaker 5: Editors, the man above us when we're trying to do
our jobs. You know what I mean, we're just looking
for scoops.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: The big bias is toward a good story.
Speaker 2: The big bias is towards a good story. I've heard
this before. By the way, that is not always the case,
but not for all reporters hashtag not all reporters. So
a couple things of note Number one, I mean, there
were three, essentially three different stories here that they were
talking about, all of them related to Hunter Biden, all
of them quashed or slow walked in the story of
the gun charge that Tara Palmery broke.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But what Capito says, or computo, what he says is
that these orders came down from quote on high at
political I don't know how high up that went. I
don't know if it was just his editor, if it
came from people above his editor. But what he claims
the message was from quote on high was don't write
about the laptop, don't talk about the laptop, don't tweet
about the laptop. And I can tell you I have
never been told not to do something like this. In
all my years as a reporter and then as a host,
I've never been told don't talk about a particular topic,
except by my wife. No, I'm kidding, but no, she
does not have to tell me. But seriously, like there's
there's never been an instance that I recall of me saying, hey,
I've got this crazy breaking story and some manager says, no,
don't talk about it, don't tweet about it, and don't
report on it.
Speaker 1: That's scandalous.
Speaker 2: The other piece of information there that he gave was
that a rival Democrat campaign against Joe Biden. So think
about the timeline here. This would have been twenty nineteen, right,
maybe even earlier, but it was when there were still
Democrats that were trying to be the nominee for the
Democrat Party to run against Trump in twenty twenty, and
there was another Democrat campaign that had gotten hold of
the tax lean which they then handed off to Politico,
and Politico Mark Capito wanted to do the story. So
a couple things of note there, right, number one, This
wasn't a lead that he generated himself, right, this is
OPO research, came from another Democrat number one. And I'm
not knocking him for that. I mean that happens all
the time. They never tell you usually, I should say,
they usually don't tell you in the reporting that they
were tipped off to this by a Democrat OPO research effort.
Speaker 1: They don't ever really tell you that.
Speaker 2: They just they get the original source documents. If they
get the copy of the tax liene, then they can say, oh, well,
this is the tax line and they cite that as
the source. And I understand why they do that, but
it is also of note. Lo these many years later,
when the truth can be told that it came from
a Democrat campaign, and what does this tell.
Speaker 1: Me They all knew, they knew.
Speaker 2: They knew this stuff about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden
because the tax lien. What made it newsworthy. Isn't that
Hunter Biden isn't paying taxes. I mean that is part
of it, but it's specifically during the time period when
he is working for Barisma, the Ukrainian energy company, and
because he's making what was it fifty thousand dollars a
month working for them, quote, working for them with all
of his expertise, because as Joe Biden would say, he
guys he which means he's the smartest person Joe Biden knows,
which at this point, like that should have been the
clear indication that Joe Biden is in cognitive decline. He
doesn't remember anybody other than Hunter Biden, because how could
he be the smartest person, you know. But anyway, the
rival Democrat camp knew that this was a problem, that
this indicated corruption of some kind. It's not just oh,
Hunter Biden not paying taxes. No, Hunter Biden not paying
taxes while being paid fifty thousand dollars a month for
sitting on a Ukrainian energy company's board despite having no
expertise in that field. And once again that story not covered,
Politico not covering that story like that's that really is.
And then of course, after the news is out about
all of this stuff, which is rooted in the Hunter
Biden laptop, then we find out, you know, about the
Bearizema deal and all of the money flowing through and
all of this, all of this corruption, and even then
Democrats not coming forward and saying oh no, no, yeah,
that's yeah, that's probably true. Like the Bearisma stuff. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Allright, let's head over and take a phone call from Dean. Hello,
Dean Hip, Hey.
Speaker 6: What so many stories and so little time? Yes, I
had a question about reporters, and this is sort of
a generic question, but with your experience, I understand about
you know, not killing a story, but how much impact,
Like say, if you work for I don't know that
can be political or whatever. Does your job or your
future or your family impact what you do bring to
the table. Is that an issue?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean so every day, Like when I was working
at a TV station, every day we were responsible for
bringing three to five story ideas to the meeting and
then you know, the everybody would sit around the whole
staff would sit around and decide whether that was something
that was worth pursuing. And so if you've got you know,
three reporters on staff, and you know a couple of
assignment editors or whatever and there or people working on
the assignment desk, and they're bringing ideas and so yeah,
you get all of these different story ideas that get
kicked around in that meeting and every like, I don't
know how all of the shops do it, but yeah,
management has the editors have the final call as to
whether or not to pursue something or whether something you've
written actually gets published.
Speaker 6: So so a true reporter would be unbiased and bring
the story, but the editor would then reflect the bias
of the of the radio station or what everybody.
Speaker 2: So every everybody has bias. Everyone has bias. It's a
human condition. So the thing and when it starts with
story selection, because when I, like, when I would show
up and I would have these story ideas, I was
bringing different story ideas that I thought were newsworthy, right,
And that's a subjective call. I thought a story would
be newsworthy, and somebody sitting right next to me with
the same level of experience they may think it does not,
and then we would have a debate about whether or
not this was, you know, newsworthy, and if so, when
do you devote resources to covering it? How much resources
get devoted to it, that kind of thing. So, yeah,
everybody's got bias, and that's why you want newsrooms that
have ideological diversity. You want people coming in with different
perspectives on how they answer that question of what is news.
Speaker 6: But it sounds like the reporters have very little to
do with the problem that we see when we see
bias in the media. No, when it gets above that, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, because again, all different level have different different
layers of operations. So at local levels you rarely have
editors at all. Like a lot of uh, you know,
a lot of news organizations at the local levels have
been cutting editor positions and that sort of thing. So
a lot of times what a reporter reports just goes
right out. And so no, and again, if I show
up and if you have a staff, for example, if
I show up to the news meeting and I've got
three ideas and I'm the only reporter on staff, well
then I'm the only one presenting ideas and I'm directing
that coverage.
Speaker 1: Now, the editors aren't right, I'm.
Speaker 2: The one giving them the story leads and they've got
nobody else to go send to do this, so I'm
my story gets picked.
Speaker 6: So, you know, it seemed like if you didn't have
an editor, then that would probably that wouldn't be necessarily
a good thing either that it falls on the editor
a lot, because without an editor then you, you know,
you're sort of not somehow bridled in what you say
or bring to the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there, look there, Yeah, there are pros
and cons to all these different models, right, there are
pros and cons. The pro as you just kind of
laid out or indicated there, is that with editors you've
got more of an opportunity to fact check and to
clarify and to try to remove some bias that may
be evident in the words that the reporter chooses, that
kind of thing, because that's you know, the biggest areas
of bias in journalism is number one, what stories get covered,
and then number two how they are covered and that
and you can look and get a pretty good idea
by the words that are chosen in the piece. And
it's most evident if you find adjectives when you find adjectives,
words that describe other things. That's usually where you can
detect the bias of the reporter because they are they
are characterizing something based on it or you using an
adjective to convey a certain thing.
Speaker 1: And so yeah.
Speaker 2: So in a model where you've got editors, they can
go in there strip that stuff out and they can
make the product better. But on the other hand, they
could actually, as we heard in this story with Politico,
they can they can quash a story that is newsworthy.
But Politico, for whatever reason, did not want that story
about the Hunter Biden laptop to be reported. They did
not want that story to gain traction in the public
eye before the election. So you know, there's by and
here's the other thing too, there's bias also on the
on the reporter's behalf here Mark Capito, because it's only
now five years later that he finally comes out and
says this. He could have said this at the time,
but he went along with it, right, So what was
his bias? What were his incentives? It was to keep
his job, right, So people make these types of decisions
all the time. All right, Dean, I appreciate the call.
I got to run good to hear from you.
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or slow walked negative Biden stories quote with no explanation,
and they've now decided to tell us. I mean it's
been five years. Mark Capito appearing on Somebody's Gotta Win
podcast by Tara Palmery, both of whom are former Politico reporters,
and they talked about three different incidents, all related to
Hunter Biden. Two of Capito's stories were quashed by editors,
and one by Palmery was allowed to go to print,
but it took three months to get approvals. And that
was the story about the gun. And this is interesting
how Hunter Biden had lied on his application to get
the gun. And she then after they discussed this on
her podcast, Fox News reached out and she talked with
him and she said, quote, I certainly had to push
very hard to get that reporting published, Like it was
a constant, Hey, when are we going to do this?
Speaker 1: Hey, when are we going to get this out there? Hey?
Speaker 2: When are we going to do this? Because it was
so difficult, Like it was kind of a known feeling
that like it's going to be difficult to report stuff
that's really tough on the Biden administration and family. It's
just like a culture. The culture at Politico was don't
report on the Biden family. And I think she said
when the culture is that a reporter has to push
so hard that it just creates a feeling that there's
not an interest in that type of reporting. And ultimately,
you know, we were to be published and to get
our editors to support our work. This last line is
important and it's something you should always keep in mind
about reporters, talk show hosts, writers of any kind. Is
that the reason why reporters report is they want people
to read them. They they want people to read the
words they have written. I want people to hear the
things I am saying. Otherwise I would just, you know,
talk to myself in the shower. I mean I do already,
but like that would suffice for me. But it's weird,
and Christy has been asking questions. But this way, I can,
you know, get paid, and then I have a cover
story for why I just talk. So there's a reason
why people write this stuff, and it is because they
want to be published. They would prefer more people read
what they are writing than fewer. So that's their incentive,
So always keep that in mind. Their incentive is to
have people read what they write. And if you are
working at Politico and you get a really big story
about how Hunter Biden lied on his form, his federal
form to purchase a firearm and then threw the gun
into the dumpster and like that whole thing, that was palmery.
She got that story, and it took three months for
Politico to clear it. She said she first obtained the
police report shortly after Biden's inauguration. So this is late
January twenty twenty one, so four years ago, but her
story wasn't published until late March, three months later.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: I just think if it was a Trump kid, it
would have been published much sooner, she said. I just
had to work really hard to like, you're like, hey,
what's going on with the story? Hey, what's going on
with the story? Like, what's going on with the story?
So she's describing here in her way, I guess she's
badgering her editors. I wrote the story, it's all checked out,
it's solid reporting. Why are you taking so long to
publish it? And you heard in that clip that I
played she was bragging that it was her story that
got the federal charges rolling against Hunter Biden in the
first place. That's the power of the media, right, She said.
We gave the White House a lot of time to respond,
like a week or so, and I don't know if
that would have been the case for a Trump story. Okay, well,
let me just tell you that would not be the
case for Trump. Okay, you're not getting a week to respond.
The former Politico journalist went on to cite the honeymoon
phase of the Biden administration as being a factor behind
the slowed pace of her story.
Speaker 1: She said, quote, I.
Speaker 2: Think a lot of people there, including reporters, wanted to
get on the good side of the new administration. This
is another important incentive if you are covering the White House,
or you have a news operation that has somebody if
you're not the White House correspondent, but you've got a
colleague who is you both work for Politico. I ran
into this all the time. This is a constant thing
here at WBT. When I was a reporter, I would
have potential interview subjects that would refuse to do interviews
with me as a reporter because of things the hosts
would say, and now, in the position I am in,
I am sure that some of the things I say
probably make it more difficult for reporters to get interviews
with people that I criticize. Okay, drag Okay, all right, Okay, fine,
I dragged them. Okay, Still like I get that. I
get that. So when a new administration comes in and
you've got this quote honeymoon phase and Politico is trying
to what play nice, suck up, that's what they're doing, right,
I'll do these I'll do these glamour pieces on caringe
Jean Pierre as the first lesbian female spokesperson from a
Caribbean country, or something like that. Like, I'll do those
stories in order to get access to do other stories
or get comments like I'm a friendly It's okay. Reporters
are always walking this line, right, They're always walking this line,
and some of them get corrupted very easily, very quickly,
because they don't recognize what the higher principle is. Right.
You may be ingratiating yourself and pretending to be friends
with people and all of that, but as in the
documentary Almost Famous, you are the enemy. She says, I
could understand the reluctance to put a piece out like
that within the first few months, but she also suggested
her bosses would not run the story unless she was
able to link it to a federal agency. She said
it had to be about the fact that the Secret
Service was involved. I just think the fact that you know,
the president's son is getting in a domestic dispute that
involves a gun being thrown into a dumpster next to
a school is pretty shocking, and the police had to
be involved. I think the editors preferred the Secret Service
angle because it increased the gravity of the situation, the
fact that the Secret Service may have been improperly used
to cover up what could have been a crime if
the gun was found and used by somebody else, The
blanket fact that he lied on the gun form, which
I had, She said, I had that I had the
gun form, and I pointed out that.
Speaker 1: He lied on it.
Speaker 2: But in the piece we downplayed it and said although
many people lie on gun forms and are not prosecuted
for it, which is true, she says, but it's not
like the headline was, you know, hunter Biden lies on
gun form. That's a felony. That was not the headline,
even though she said, I had the gun form in
which he lied.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: So Politico directs the focus, They write the narrative to
soft pedal the gravity of the actual story because there
was no evidence at that point of like what the
Secret Service had done. We knew they got involved, but
to what extent we didn't know. But the thing that
you did know was Hunter Biden lied on that form.
You did know that you had a police report, you
had the form, right, you had his book dead to
right all. You had the whole story buttoned up or
buttoned down, whichever way you prefer.
Speaker 1: But Politico, well, let's make it about this other thing.
Speaker 2: And I get it, that's a part of the story too,
But is that the excuse they used to slow walk
the story in the hopes of maybe killing it or
getting past the initial honeymoon phase of the Biden administration.
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over and talk with John. Hello, John, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Hey Pete, Hey, let's show sir. Well, this has kind
of been a long running battle, you know. I remember
back had to be in the late seventies, early eighties.
It was pre Fox, pre all the conservative stuff. There
was a book written called Spiked, and it was a
couple of reporters had written a book about how their
editors would spike their stories that were not didn't fit
that narrative that they wanted. And there was a group
of investors, I think Jesse Helms was involved with that,
to try to buy CBS to get some of that
information out, you know, because that then there was only
three networks and PPS, so there really was a whole
lot out there as far as the over the air news.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know, well look yeah, look at how remember
Matt Drudge his his Yeah, he was launched to stardom
because he covered the story about Monica Lewinsky. When was
it the Washington Post refused yep, Yeah, And the Washington
Post refused to run the story, and somebody handed it
off to Drudge, and Drudge put it up on his website,
which at that point people were like, what's a website,
you know, And so he published that thing onto his
website and boom, you know, launched into stardom.
Speaker 4: Correct. That's another good example. That's why conservatism libertarians are
kind of very real, kicky and choosy about who they
listen to and you know, where they go to get
their information. Yeah, and and of course the internet's kind
of you know, flipped everything upside down, and you know,
you can go on an app like say Pluto and
there's probably six or seven conservative news sits on there
that you could watch too. I mean, there's there's a
lot of information out there now that wasn't there back
in the late seventies and early eighties, and that's why
they were trying to get money to give it to
buy CBS to kind of get that information out.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think Jesse Helms was involved with
that group, but that kind of fell through.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not aware. It wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: He came out of a he came out of television,
so that wouldn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 1: And he was a calist too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, he was a media guy. Yeah, that's right.
He was a media guy and a great senator too.
I wish he was still with us, but he's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true, he is not. John. I appreciate
the call, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take it easy.
Speaker 2: So look, pros and cons to the old model at
the time, right there, you know, three major networks, handful
of major newspapers, and they would all cover the same thing.
Limbaugh talked about this all the time. He talked about
how you know, when it came to like the fairness doctrine,
Limbaugh would famously say, I am equal time, and that's
a reference to this very thing. Now, there is a
benefit to that in that it limits, you know, fake information,
like legitimately false information. It will limit some of the
stuff that is demonstrably false. Nowadays, you've got websites that
will promote really any kind of information you're looking for.
And then you know, you're also faced with this limitless
menu of media outlets to read and to try to
discern what is and is not true. And when you
have an entire nation that is getting sort of the
same talking points and the same stories, it does create
a cohesion. There's no out that there are quote some
benefits to that kind of model. Now, there are a
lot of downsides though, and that's the trade off. As
Thomas Soule says, right, no solutions, only trade offs, in
that if the narrative that is being shared by the
entire society is itself not true, or is masking some
greater scandal or protecting some corrupt people or whatever, then everybody.
Speaker 1: Is under that same delusion. Right.
Speaker 2: So, look, all of these news organizations are the same
at their core as social media and the Internet, which
is they are all news aggregation.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 2: There are limitless stories, and you are relying on a
particular publication to go out find a handful of them
in this vast universe of stories that could be reported,
and you are reading a particular site or newspaper.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, nobody does that anymore.
Speaker 2: But you're reading a site, you're watching a program or whatever,
and you're trusting that they're pulling stories content that matters,
and they're doing it in an objective or as close
to an objective way as.
Speaker 1: Fair away as they can.
Speaker 2: And now with the tools that we have available, we
can be our own aggregators. The problem is deciphering what
is and isn't true that's getting into your feeds. This
is why I have said for fifteen years, get your
news from multiple sources. You have to be able to
see where the stories come from, how they get covered,
different angles to the story that aren't covered in one
particular publication versus another. Because the bias that we know
exists at CBS, NBCMSM, all those biases exist in every outlet.
They're just different biases, that's all. So back to this story.
This is from Fox News, by the way, and this
is an interview with Tara Palmery, and she said that
Politico felt like it would be worthy of being published
the story about Hunter Biden buying the gun, lying on
the form. It had to rise to that occasion that
a federal department was involved and they misused power. Basically
like the crime itself was not important, was not worthy
of just running that story on that alone, She says,
in fairness, they wanted to make sure the story was
buttoned up, but they also felt like it needed to
be elevated beyond the crime, the obvious crime which we
had from the form. We had to nail down that
element of the secret service part and that took more time. Now,
a spokesperson for Politico had released a statement pushing back
on Palmary's comments and Mark Kapito's comments by touting how
its journalists quote led the way on wide ranging reporting
on the business dealings of Joe Biden's closest relatives but
not Joe Biden, as well as its verification of the
Hunter Biden laptop after it didn't matter, and suggesting the
former staffers have a case of false memory is what
the that to politicos maligning their two former reporters. They
have false memories. The spokesperson called their claims quote bullpoop,
but he didn't say poop or she.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a hear g our.
Speaker 2: Editors uphold rigorous standards, ensuring every story is thoroughly vetted
and buttoned up before publishing. This approach reflects our unwavering
commitment to accuracy and accountability, principles that have guided us
and will continue to do so. Right, but then, why
didn't you do the Hunter Biden story?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: In fact, what Capito what he was responding to, is
he said that they did. The first story that Politico
did do was on the letter from the fifty one
intelligence officials that said the material from the Hunter Biden
laptop had quote all the ear marks of a Russian
intelligence operation. That's the first time. That's how they covered
the story. That's what Politico did. Remember, NPR famously did
that editor's note when they said, you know, we tell
our audience things that matter basically, and we're not going
to waste your time with this false disinformation from Russia, Russia, Russia,
and it wasn't true. And by the way, the intelligence
agencies knew it wasn't true, or they, you know, the well,
the fifty one people who signed that letter, they they
knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was real.
Speaker 1: They had it.
Speaker 2: They had already confirmed its authenticity. They knew this, but
Politico just, I guess, couldn't confirm it. That's what I'm
to believe. I guess right. They just couldn't get that
part buttoned up.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Fox News contributed Joe Kancha compared reporters speaking out about
the Hunter Biden laptop scandal to those who waited to
address the former press sid It's mental decline, as well
as the legitimacy of the COVID lab leak theory. Ooh,
some news on that too. It completes what has become
a trend.
Speaker 1: In the media.
Speaker 2: He says, Yeah, only after the fact, can it be told.
We got the New York Times last week or I
guess now two weeks ago, finally confirming that which we
all saw with our own eyes about Joe Biden's mental infirmity.
But now it can be told and the lab leak theory.
Now it can be told. We'll get to that in
the next now, all right, that'll do it for this episode.
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