1 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:07,879 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by my newest supporters, 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,839 Emma Rachel, Jeffrey Ramona, and an anonymous contributor on Buy 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,039 Me a Coffee. Thank you so much for making the 4 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:36,159 show possible. Welcome back to Paranormal Mysteries, and thank you 5 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,960 for joining me as we explore the unknown. I'm your host, 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:44,200 Nick Ryan. I know that I haven't uploaded an episode 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,520 in quite some time, and I apologize, but I'm hoping 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,520 that tonight's show will be the first of many more 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,880 to come. I appreciate your patience and I figured that 10 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 the following encounter would be the perfect way to welcome 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,479 you back. Tonight's experience comes to us from a long 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,560 time listener, experiencer, and friend of the show named Cassandra. 13 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:08,000 Cassandra began sharing her experiences with me back in twenty nineteen, 14 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,640 and she has always been forthright regarding each of her encounters. 15 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:14,040 This is why when I saw that I had a 16 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:16,799 new email sitting in my inbox that involved one of 17 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:20,280 these creatures, I gave it my full attention, and I 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,439 hope that you will do the same. Cassandra calls her 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:32,560 experience the Skindilo. Cassandra says greeting's Nick. In the early 20 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:36,359 spring of nineteen ninety five, I was reunited, albeit briefly, 21 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,000 with a man I dated in the mid to late eighties. 22 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,040 I have no contact with him now, so I don't 23 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:47,680 mind using his real name, Mitch. He was tall, dark, handsome, 24 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,159 and had bright green eyes. He was the kind of 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,879 guy you might see on the cover of a romance novel. 26 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:56,280 He always wore black, and he honestly pulled it off 27 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:01,040 really well. He was suave, sexy, intelligent, and best of all, 28 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:04,200 a true gentleman. He opened doors for me, paid for 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,599 all of our outings, no matter what they were or 30 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,960 how much they cost, and to say that he was 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,759 well off was a bit of an understatement. Mitch owned 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,199 property in Park City, Utah, where elitists go to show 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,360 off how fabulously wealthy they are. Until Robert Redford passed away, 34 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:24,360 Park City was home to the Sun Dance Film Festival. Sadly, though, 35 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:28,159 it's being moved to somewhere in Colorado. Park City sits 36 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,039 along Interstate eighty, right on the western edge of the 37 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,039 Juina Mountains. Beautiful high desert meets up to lush pine 38 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,759 forests that sprawl as far as the eye can see 39 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:41,199 its breath taking up there with crisp mountain air in 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,759 cooler freshing springs. Owning property up there is in itself 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,159 a declaration of wealth as well as status. The cheapest 42 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:53,319 homes are still worth millions of dollars, and they look 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,960 at Mitch's summer house looked out over a swath of 44 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:01,599 hillside that butted up against tall pines. Horses grazed lazily 45 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,639 in the pasture, and deer frequently hopped the fence to 46 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:08,520 dine with them. The home boasted seven bedrooms, all with 47 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:11,960 private bathrooms, an elegant dining area that would seat up 48 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,080 to twenty people comfortably, to private theaters, an indoor pool 49 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,520 and hot tub, gaming room with pool table, dart board, 50 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,520 and a fully stalked bar made of New England oak. 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,080 You get the idea. It was definitely a different way 52 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,639 of life from growing up poor in a run down 53 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,560 trailer court, that's for sure. One morning, not long after 54 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:36,599 I woke, I stepped outside to watch the sun rise. 55 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:39,759 A light mist covered the ground and the birds were 56 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,800 singing their welcome to the rising light. Walking around the balcony, 57 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,280 I was greeted with a hot cup of coffee. As 58 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:48,960 Mitch sat at the little table reading whatever it was 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,120 that captured his attention in the newspaper that day. The servants, 60 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,000 yes he had them, brought out bowls of fruit and 61 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,919 cream for us to snack on while breakfast was being made. 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,199 It was peaceful and quiet, a major change from life 63 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 in the Salt Lake Valley, to be sure. But then 64 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,039 everything went quiet, the unnerving calm that usually precedes the 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,599 appearance of darker energies. I felt it, slithering over the ground, 66 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,000 like an inky tendril of the purest evil. Mitch, oblivious 67 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,759 to everything but his paper up to that point, looked 68 00:04:22,759 --> 00:04:25,759 over the top of the newsprint and out at the field. 69 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,639 Getting to my feet, I walked slowly round the balcony, 70 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:32,800 trying to see what might be causing this unpleasant sensation. 71 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:37,319 But then I heard it. A woman's voice was calling 72 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,800 out in the stillness. Help help, I'm lost and I 73 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,279 don't know where I am, she cried. Now I've mentioned 74 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,160 before that I am both native from a Lakota Sioux 75 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,480 tribe and drew it with my family lines dating back 76 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,439 more than two thousand years. This is according to the 77 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,920 genealogical library that we have in downtown Salt Lake City. 78 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:01,720 Right away, I knew with every fiber of my being 79 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,160 that this was no woman. The hairs on my arms 80 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:09,120 stood up, and an icy chill flowed suddenly through my veins. 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,480 By now Mitch had gotten to his feet and was 82 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,759 now following me. His eyes were now scanning the distance 83 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,519 for this damsel in distress. I raised my hand to 84 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,600 silence his question before he could ask it, not wanting 85 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:26,360 to alert the sudden unwelcome visitor to our presence. However, 86 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:29,360 I needn't have bothered, as it already knew that we 87 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,639 were there. At the far end of the pasture where 88 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:36,360 the horses had suddenly run from, stood a man. He 89 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:39,959 wore only boxer shorts and was shouting in his woman's 90 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,160 voice just outside the fence line. Mitch was done to silence, 91 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,199 unable to comprehend what he was looking at. I knew, though, 92 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,519 with everything in me, I knew it was a walker. 93 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,720 I don't like saying the full name, as it's considered 94 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,240 a bad omen among natives, thus my calling it a 95 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,439 skindi loup. What the actual hell is that guy doing? 96 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:07,279 Mitch asked, breaking the silence. Don't draw attention to us, 97 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:11,480 stay quiet, I whispered, but he didn't. He called out 98 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:15,199 to the man, which went ignored. The walker then changed 99 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:18,199 tactics and began shouting in a man's voice that he 100 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,560 needed help and that he was injured. What if it 101 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,600 really is just an injured guy, Mitch asked, looking from 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,560 the creature back at me. It isn't trust me, I answered, 103 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:32,439 But then before I could stop him, Mitch whistled at it. 104 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:35,720 Now it's a known fact that you never, and I 105 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,800 do mean never, whistle at a walker. It not only 106 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:42,839 draws their attention to you, but it greatly angers them. Well. 107 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,279 The walker turned its head, its eyes locking with Mitch's 108 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:49,279 before spotting me. It was then that it led out 109 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,759 a roar and started running at us through the fence. 110 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 I grabbed Mitch's arm and raced for the house. The creature, 111 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,560 already running faster than a human ever could, dropped to 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,040 all four and increasing its speed and closing the distance 113 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,480 between us in a matter of heart beats. Reaching the door, 114 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,199 I quickly locked it and I closed the curtains, not 115 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,000 wanting to see the walker that was now on the porch. 116 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:15,800 What the hell is that thing? Mitch stammered, too shock 117 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:18,800 to move away from the door. It's a walker. Are 118 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,199 there any other entrances to the house other than this 119 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 door and the front door? I asked, pulling him away 120 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,360 from the door. The there's a door in the wine cellar, 121 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:32,759 he replied, his voice quivering where I asked. Following him 122 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,319 from the bedroom, we heard a deafening scream that was 123 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,160 silenced into a guttural sputter. Reaching the cellar door, I 124 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:42,879 barely got it locked before it began shaking violently. Looking 125 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,720 up at Mitch, I saw his skin turn visibly pale 126 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:48,680 from a light tan to a ghastly white. He was 127 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,439 frozen in fear, and he was unable to break free 128 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:55,319 from the terror that held him. Mitch I shouted, trying 129 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:58,000 to snap him out of his stoopor slapping him. I 130 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:02,079 watched him come back to himself, albeit only slightly. He 131 00:08:02,199 --> 00:08:05,560 thankfully found his footing and then rushed from door to door, 132 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,199 making sure the entire house was locked up tight. The creature, 133 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:11,680 angry that it had been stopped at the cellar door, 134 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,639 then proceeded to run around the house looking for any 135 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,720 way in it could find. Down in the kitchen, the 136 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,480 staff were huddled together in a bawling pile, terrified of 137 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:24,040 what was trying to get in, despite not knowing what 138 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:26,839 it was, reaching for the phone so I could call 139 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:30,079 the police. I was only mildly surprised to find the 140 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440 line was dead. The power was next, leaving the whole 141 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,519 house in eerie darkness. Trying to calmb the kitchen staff, 142 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,759 I spoke softly to them it was a lost cause, however, 143 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,600 as how do you rationally explain something like that to 144 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,240 people being ruled by their fear? Hours went by, all 145 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,480 the while the walker was pacing the perimeter, looking for 146 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,480 a way in, a window, a door, anything. I smell 147 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,600 your fear, and I hunger. It starled outside the main 148 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,399 bedroom window. I'm not afraid of you, Mitch replied, cocking 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,399 the double barreled shotgun he now held in his hands. 150 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,759 Don't talk to it, Mitch, I scolded, trying to keep 151 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:12,840 my voice steady. Seeing the look in his eye, I 152 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,200 knew Mitch was about to do something stupid. Sure enough, 153 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,399 he flung the balcony door open and pointed the shotgun 154 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,320 at the creature, covering my ears as he fired the 155 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,759 first round, then the second, I felt the bile rising 156 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:30,519 in my throat. The creature was laughing, cocking it again. 157 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:33,960 Mitch unloaded the weapon on the creature, but it did nothing. 158 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:37,600 The creature was enjoying the chaos that it was causing 159 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:40,879 in my partner. Come back, Mitch. You can't hurt it 160 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:44,720 with that, I called, begging him to listen. You can't 161 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:47,720 hurt me. You can't hurt me, it mocked in a 162 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:51,720 sing song voice, Finally getting Mitch to come back inside, 163 00:09:51,919 --> 00:09:54,799 I huddled close to him, wanting this man who stood 164 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,159 six foot four and weighed almost two hundred and fifty pounds, 165 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,639 to block the creature's view of me. And it was 166 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,600 then that I realized something I hadn't before. Nick. We 167 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 were on the second floor of the house and the 168 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:10,720 walker was now climbing up to us. I began praying 169 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:13,360 to the Goddess to protect us like I've never prayed 170 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,120 before or since. And it was then that I heard it. 171 00:10:17,759 --> 00:10:20,679 A small voice from somewhere behind me was telling me 172 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:24,080 to get into the closet. I listened, and I dragged 173 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Mitch with me, locking the door. We sat in total darkness, 174 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,919 listening as the glass broke, the creature still mocking in 175 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,120 its sing song tone. Closer, closer, the steps came until 176 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,240 they stood just outside the closet door. Now, this closet 177 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:44,279 was more than fifteen feet long, ten feet wide, with 178 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,559 fifteen foot high ceilings. It was basically the size of 179 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,440 my bedroom in the apartment I currently live in, though 180 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,879 my ceilings are only eight feet high. I'm going to 181 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,679 savor every delicious drop of your blood. The creature growled 182 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:00,639 as it was trying to handle, But just then I 183 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 felt a warm glow wash over me from the back 184 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,279 of the closet. Not wanting to look away from the door, 185 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:09,240 I shifted slightly so I could catch what was starting 186 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,759 to appear. Out of the corner of my eye. In 187 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,360 the growing light, I saw the form of a Native 188 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:19,120 warrior in full dress manifesting before my very eyes. Mitch 189 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:22,399 saw it too, and he asked, what the hell is that? 190 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,559 It's a spirit warrior. I whispered, Now, I've shared an 191 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,200 encounter I had with a native entity with you before. 192 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:34,240 This guy, while familiar, was definitely not the same entity. 193 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,960 He looked like images I had seen at the library 194 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,399 of a shaman. He locked eyes with me briefly before 195 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,039 walking through us to get to the door. It was 196 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,679 a sensation I'll never forget. Slowly I got up to 197 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,480 my feet and began following this entity. Mitch was tugging 198 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,879 at my sweatpants, trying to get me to stop moving, 199 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,120 but I didn't. I called out to the shaman, and 200 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,679 I told him to use my body if he needed to. 201 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,279 He did. Now this next part was related to me, 202 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:07,480 as I have no memory of anything from that moment on. Apparently, 203 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,879 I began chanting in what Mitch said sounded like Navajo 204 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,480 before I opened the door. The creature stood before me, 205 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:18,879 anger radiating off of it in palpable waves. I raised 206 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,039 my arms and a ball of golden light began taking 207 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,720 shape in my palm. This light grew until it filled 208 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:29,279 the entire room, swallowing the walker in its pure energy. 209 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:34,320 The walker then screamed in agony, clutching its head. Mitch 210 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:37,240 said that in the face of this warrior shaman, the 211 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:41,240 Skindilo turned and then ran, shattering the other glass door 212 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:43,919 on its way out to the balcony. It then leapt 213 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,559 down from the second story, and it raced back into 214 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:51,639 the trees. I awoke some time later to a paramedic 215 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,879 kneeling over me, holding a tiny package of smelling salts 216 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:57,840 under my nose. I always thought the reaction to those 217 00:12:57,919 --> 00:13:01,799 on TV was exaggerated. It felt like a jolt of 218 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,960 electricity exploded under my nose, sending shock waves throughout my 219 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:09,879 entire body. Blinking in confusion, I sat up with the 220 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:13,399 help of the EMT. He asked if I remembered what happened, 221 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:17,159 to which I answered no. Mitch then gave my hand 222 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:20,360 a squeeze, drawing my attention up to his face. He 223 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,840 was crying hysterically, having thought that I was dead, he wrote. 224 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,320 In the ambulance with me to the hospital, where I 225 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:30,759 was eventually given a clean bill of health. However, one 226 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:34,120 of the ladies from the kitchen wasn't so lucky. Apparently 227 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,720 the creature had scared her so badly that she had 228 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:45,559 a heart attack, and she passed away on the scene. 229 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,799 Before I continue, please consider showing your support by subscribing, sharing, 230 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:53,080 and giving the podcast a positive review. 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Alcohol was consumed in great quantities on a 242 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,879 daily basis, and the last I'd heard, he had sold 243 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:39,360 the property and moved to another state. He couldn't cope 244 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 with all that had transpired that day. I never heard 245 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,000 from him ever again. Well, there it is, my unfortunate 246 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,399 encounter with a skindilow. If there's one thing I know 247 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:54,200 for certain, one word of caution I could express to 248 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,200 your listeners, it's this, Not all cries for help in 249 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,600 the woods are genuine. Listen and be ready to help, 250 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,120 but at the same time, be ready to run. But 251 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:11,200 whatever you do, don't whistle at a walker. I hope 252 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,279 you and your family are well and are thriving in 253 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:21,799 these crazy days. Take care, my friend Cass. After reading 254 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:25,279 through Cass's experience multiple times, I had a lot of questions, 255 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,039 and she was kind enough as always to answer each 256 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,440 and every one of them in detail. First, I asked 257 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,799 her what the weather was like that morning, what the 258 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,480 creature's appearance was like as it got closer to them, 259 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:39,159 and how this thing managed to cut the power to 260 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,600 the house. She had this to say, I never have 261 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,440 a problem answering your questions, as we don't really learn 262 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,480 anything if we don't question. Right, So this happened in 263 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:53,080 the spring of nineteen ninety five. There was a little 264 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,360 snow on the ground still outside the property as memory serves, 265 00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:58,639 though I don't recall there being a lot of it. 266 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 The home sat on the south side of the mountain, 267 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,039 which always gets more sun. It's visible from westbound I eighty, 268 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,440 just before you drop down Parley's Canyon going into the 269 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Salt Lake area. The walker looked like a bodybuilder to 270 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:16,519 a degree. He stood around five foot ten head, broad shoulders, 271 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,799 and muscular legs. When it turned to face us, it 272 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,240 didn't look like anything but a normal man. However, as 273 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,759 it started to run in our direction, it went from 274 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:29,919 a typical man shaped creature to something hyena shaped as 275 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,519 it ran on all fours, meaning the front half of 276 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:35,240 the body was higher off the ground than the back half. 277 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:39,240 As it ran, its skin was bumpy, as though it 278 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:42,879 either had ingrown hair or possibly was even a little scaly. 279 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,600 It only had hair on its head, shoulders, lower legs, 280 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,559 and chest, but it was sparse everywhere but the head. 281 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:53,639 The hair itself was long, inky black, and had a 282 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,639 rather greasy appearance to it. Its eyes were larger and 283 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,759 blacker than the darkest cave I've ever been, and I've 284 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,879 done a little spelunking in my youth. It felt as 285 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:07,039 though if I didn't look away, that the eyes would 286 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:11,359 swallow me whole. Its mouth stretched horribly to reveal an 287 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,680 ear to ear grin of sharp pointed teeth, and the 288 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,079 massive hands had long, spinly fingers and jagged nails. The 289 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,160 feet were elongated as well, as though someone put its 290 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,279 hands and feet in a taffy pullar to stretch them out. 291 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,599 They were really disproportionately long, and the smell was something 292 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,640 else like rotting flesh. It churned my stomach terribly, and 293 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,680 I'm pretty sure that I vomited from it. Those were 294 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,480 the only changes it made as it grew closer. But 295 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,559 despite what my eyes were seeing and my heart acknowledged, 296 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:46,119 my mind still registered it as human, which is more 297 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,440 terrifying to me. How many of these things are walking 298 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,759 around out there that people aren't seeing. They can make 299 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,079 people forget, and they can hide in plain sight, looking 300 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,160 no different from you or me until it's too late. 301 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,640 When the power and the phone line went out, I 302 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,720 think it was purely accidental, given the creature was clawing 303 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:07,599 and digging at the house as it looked for a 304 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,319 way in. I don't think it understood what the metal 305 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,160 boxes and cables outside were for, just that they were there. 306 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:18,920 Not an intelligent design, but just a desperation to get inside. 307 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,079 It never stopped making unholy cries of rage or frustration, 308 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:28,279 which obviously didn't help the situation. I then asked cass 309 00:18:28,319 --> 00:18:30,680 how she was able to interpret and cope with such 310 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,079 a horrifying experience, and also what she would recommend to 311 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,720 any one who may possibly encounter something similar, and she 312 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,400 went on to say this in the eighties, not long 313 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,920 before Mitch and I started dating, the first time, I 314 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,480 found myself in a group of friends that was composed 315 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:50,480 mostly of Navajo. They spent six months in Utah. In 316 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:53,519 six months on the reservation in New Mexico, I got 317 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:56,559 to participate in some other activities, which was something only 318 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,119 permitted because of my Navajo heritage, and along the way 319 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,039 I became friends with their shaman. He told me that 320 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,400 I was an old soul, which is something that I've 321 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,279 heard my entire life, and that I had knowledge that 322 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:11,119 most people couldn't possess because they refused to see the 323 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,720 world around them. We spoke of spirits, demons, and things 324 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:19,240 that science couldn't explain. He told me that I was 325 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:21,880 a medicine woman in a previous life, and on one 326 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,599 of our guided spirit journeys, it became clear to him 327 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,279 that my soul was meant to fight the darkness that 328 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 was trying to swallow this world. He said that my 329 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,480 spirit animal, the owl, would always guide me on the 330 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,000 path I was meant to travel if I allowed my 331 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,440 heart to listen. I resonated with this very strongly, as 332 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,680 I've always had a great fondness for owls. On one 333 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,880 trip to the reservation with my friends, we encountered something 334 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:50,640 off the side of the road that concerned this shaman. 335 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,119 We were returning from a day of fishing, and the shaman, 336 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:57,559 who was riding in the front passenger seat, spotted it first. 337 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:00,640 He said he needed to perform a protection ritual on 338 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:03,039 us when we got back to keep the thing that 339 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,799 we saw from finding us when we slept. It wasn't 340 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:12,279 a walker, but something else entirely. It was tall, spindly, hairless, 341 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:16,279 and almost skeletal. It almost looked like what I imagine 342 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,559 the emaciated, mangy skin and bones dog man would look like. 343 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,039 That in itself was scary, and thankfully I've never seen 344 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:27,839 it again. The shaman told us that it was a 345 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,720 type of demon that hunted the darkness and would typically 346 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:34,519 prey upon the unwary traveler. I don't remember what he 347 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:40,519 called at, but it definitely wasn't a walker. Cassandra then 348 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,400 continued to explain how she was able to deal with 349 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,880 what she and Mitch encountered that morning. I think I 350 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,759 was acting on instinct, to be honest. Maybe it was 351 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:53,039 something I had learned in my life as a medicine 352 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,440 woman that surfaced when it was needed. Most I honestly 353 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,680 don't know. As I stated in my previous email, I'm 354 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,160 loco to sue forty three percent according to the ancestry 355 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,920 DNA test I did a few years ago. Could it 356 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,559 have been knowledge from my past life? Honestly, that's probably 357 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:12,920 what helped me in that dark nightmare Our consciousness does 358 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,200 not begin or end with our birth or death. It 359 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:20,119 lives on, sometimes taking possession of another body, be that 360 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,519 human or animal, and it guides us in our lives. 361 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,279 Science is now catching up to what many cultures, Native 362 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:31,000 included have known since the time of the first songs. 363 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,839 We are more than these bodies we inhabit. The encounter 364 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:38,599 definitely changed me. I look at the world with a 365 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720 more aware sense of what's out there. Not everything we 366 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:45,079 see with our eyes is as it appears. Sometimes we're 367 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,079 shown things in a way our brains can comprehend to 368 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,000 make sense of the senselessness. Walkers quite often look as 369 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:54,599 normal as you or me, and will keep the facade 370 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,799 up until they're close enough to strike. It does make 371 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:00,599 me wonder, though, some of the missing person cases that 372 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 occur in the woods, could they be the victims of 373 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,319 a walker or possibly some other unexplainable phenomena. It's possible 374 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,000 our world as we know it is changing, becoming larger 375 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,000 and in some cases more terrifying. If there's one kernel 376 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:20,240 of knowledge I can share something that I've learned firsthand 377 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,160 from this encounter. It's firstly to try and calm the 378 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,400 racing heart and mind, Panicking doesn't help, and fear can 379 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,039 and frequently does cloud your mind and it overwhelms your senses. 380 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,960 It makes you act irrationally. The best protection from evil 381 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:38,279 entities that you have is your faith. It doesn't matter 382 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:43,359 if you're Christian, Muslim, Druid, Native, et cetera. Your faith 383 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,119 can protect you from the darker things, but it's not 384 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,319 always fail safe. Doubt is the enemy of faith, after all. 385 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,599 Don't go looking for the darkness because it's guaranteed that 386 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,000 you'll find it. Don't invite evil into your home, and 387 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,400 don't think that you're safe just because it's on your 388 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,079 TV or your phone. Should you find yourself face to 389 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,880 face with what could potentially be a walker, don't draw 390 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,160 attention to yourself and never whistle at it. It drives 391 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,599 them to great anger. If you're camping, take some of 392 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:18,039 the ashes from your campfire obviously not when it's a blaze, 393 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,519 and surround your campsite with them. Salt works as well. 394 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,039 Trust your instincts. Your body has a built in sense 395 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:27,599 of preservation and if you let it, it will go 396 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,599 into whatever survival mode the situation demands. Rosemary and Juniper 397 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,000 are great to keep around the house as well as 398 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,319 rosemary grounds you and juniper helps drive evil away. People 399 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,200 often say to save your house as a means of cleansing, 400 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:46,920 but sage opens a door one that swings both ways. 401 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,599 Do research before you run out and buy things. People 402 00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:52,640 often think that buying a kit will tell you what 403 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,559 to do, and some of them do have really good information, 404 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,799 but buying commercial cleansing kits can do more harm than 405 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:02,000 good if the person you using them hasn't done their homework. 406 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:06,039 Another tool that I use is a necklace I wear constantly. 407 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,480 It protects against negativity and I'm certain that it saved 408 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:12,799 me from a potentially bad situation with my axe. It 409 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,519 had three stones, hematite, labradorite, and snowflake obsidian, and it's 410 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,319 wrapped with a silver wire on a silver chain. Hematite 411 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,440 is a grounding stone, helping one to remain calm. Labradorite 412 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,559 is a magical stone that surrounds one in protective energy. 413 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,920 Snowflake obsidian is a protective stone that guards against negativity 414 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:38,519 and evil. Specifically, silver is a calming metal that's often 415 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,799 linked to the moon and feminine energy, and is soothing 416 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:46,240 in its quiet strength. When worn together, they act as 417 00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:51,599 a barrier protecting the wearer from evil and negativity. I 418 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,079 would absolutely love for others to know how to guard 419 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:58,079 themselves against creatures like this. It's a growing phenomenon that 420 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,640 more and more people are finding themselves f to face 421 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,720 with and most people are unaware of what to do. 422 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,880 I'm always available to help, and if this info can 423 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,839 help and protect others from these things, even better, Your 424 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:21,559 friend always, cass As the Night's journey comes to an end, 425 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,079 I'd like to thank you again for joining me and 426 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,720 I truly appreciate Cassandra for once again sharing her terrifying 427 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:31,519 encounter with all of us. And if you've encountered the unexplainable, 428 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:35,400 please consider sharing your experience with me at Paranormal Mysteries 429 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,240 podcast dot com. All experiences, no matter how strange, are 430 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:44,039 always welcome. In the meantime, have a wonderful rest of 431 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,160 your evening and I'll be back in a few short 432 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,200 days with more tales of the unexplained. And until then, 433 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,519 please remember, don't wait for the unknown to come to you, 434 00:25:55,680 --> 00:27:22,400 get out there and find it.