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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mixing some vodka.

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Speaker 2: Colored a podcast from the Mac of All.

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Speaker 1: Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots.

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Gee Rahm, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. I'm so excited for this. I'm

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so excited for this.

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Speaker 3: So all my old neighbors, people who failed me out

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of trouble a lot of times. Caroline, who helped me

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watch the floor after I had a party and I

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couldn't get the floor cleaned.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that? I do, yes. And then I

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brought the buffer up and it started peeling up the

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wax and you're like, well, you're gonna have the buffet

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that's down on my hands and knees buffing the floor.

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Speaker 4: Hey here, I was thinking about this, and I'm like, what,

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who the hell waxes their linoleum floor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It must have been because my my

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at that point, Marge had a cleaning lady. It was Pam.

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It was Pam.

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Speaker 5: The rich people. I rest my case.

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Speaker 6: We haven't even started stepsisters.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had I had some I had some gathering

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and it was February break it was just small gathering.

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It was just perfectly fine, and uh it was and

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then the floor got all messed up and I didn't

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know how to clean it. So I called Caroline and

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she showed she was because.

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Speaker 4: We were watching old old videos that we got digitized

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from when we were kids just the other day, and

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we go through, you know, Kevin got everything, and then

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Matt came along, got the hand me downs and I

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every like.

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Speaker 6: So like the stuff that Kevin got was like like

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a pedal race car, you know, new Tanka truck. Yeah,

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you know, and yeah, you're gonna be a race car driver.

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Speaker 4: And then I came along and I got baby dolls

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and a house cleaning kit.

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Speaker 2: But your house was always so neat and organized, right

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down to the garage.

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Speaker 7: There was the Saturday special. What was the Oh you're

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not working, we're going to clean the garage on Saturday?

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Speaker 2: What? But the garage was always clean. It was always

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a facade.

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Speaker 7: Everything went out, Yeah, and then my father literally would

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get a vacuum shot back and vacuumed the garage floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember.

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Speaker 7: Then everything went back in reorganized. We had a huge

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chest freezer.

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Speaker 2: That we had from some like did you get a

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side of beef up the.

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Speaker 7: Street because you get a side of beef from Farmer Fresh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, farmer used to do hey at Farmer Farmer, but

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your garage was so neat. And then I remember your

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dad's fifty birthday party.

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Speaker 7: Yeah he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He got drunk and you had a mounted deer's ass.

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Do you remember this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? It was It was ours because my roommate Dan,

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you remember my room, his hunting group lodge whatever. That

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was on the wall of the lodge and the lodge

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was getting redone and they were going to throw it out.

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So he shows up at college at Geneseo with this thing,

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and then he brought it to my dad. You need

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this on the garage wall, and it was on the garage.

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It was on a garage wall. And in college we

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had it in our apartment and we had a pencil

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shelved in the in the butt in the butt told

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everybody it was a pencil sharpener, got it And the

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amount of people that would come to our apartment and

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twist the pencil was unbelievable and they're like really, and

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they would twist it, twist it, twist it and pull

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it out and be like it's not sharp.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going enough. I remember your dad had

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a big cut on his head because it fell off

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and it knocked like he stumbled into it.

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Speaker 7: And then the trip the garage floor. Cement can be

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slipping on fiftieth birthday, and he slipped, and we had

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a stackable craftsman you know, multi tool toolbox, right, and

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he walked into the garage, stumbled into the garage, hit

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this thing yep, and the whole thing went over. And

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then now instead of being like legos or something on

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the floor, there's just three quarter inch wrenches and open

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ends and box trenches and screwdrivers. And he did the

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into the wall. The thing comes down, hits him and

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then cut on his head exactly. I remember sitting vividly

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in the kitchen with my mom and I think my

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brother was home, you know whatever, and my dad comes

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down the hallway with just the head the size of

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the hallway and he hadn't had a hangover, and who

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knows how long he got up like normal, like seven

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point thirty or whatever, and he goes, I don't feel good,

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Like have a coke because you have cotton mouth, and

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go back to bed and we'll see you sometime later

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this afternoon, because you're far removed where I was, and

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when he was fifty, I was twenty one. Ok, maybe yeah,

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and I'm like, you can really alcohol and hangovers were

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much more current. Yes, nice, they were, yes at that time,

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and we were just like, just it's too early in

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the day to even show your face, like other than

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to use the bathroom, just go back to bed.

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Speaker 2: Growing up in that in that area, right, very rural,

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very spread out. I think it's the largest school district

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in New York State per square mile, per square mile, yeah,

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per square miles. So you were like two hundred square miles.

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I thought Joe were crazy.

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Speaker 7: It's something huge. Yeah, it's some big. We talked about

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how far and how long you have?

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Speaker 4: Two hours on the sports bus.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were like you would.

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Speaker 4: Leave at five and we wouldn't get home till seven.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they would let you. They would drop you

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off at a word store about that and then come

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back because like they were going to do a twenty

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minute and went to the Doyles like Jameson.

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Speaker 7: Hill Road like that, and they were like, we'll be

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back in fifteen twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Then we could get off and get food. And then

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the bus would come back and we could get back on.

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Speaker 2: So when you growing up, like now you live in Texas,

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you and Joe high school sweethearts, married here what what

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are you making the face?

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Speaker 5: But you just have to when you say high school sweeping.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, but you're in Dallas, right, Yeah, And

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so that's a way different experience for your kids. Was

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there anything I thought there were some benefits when I

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look back now, I think growing up in the country. Yeah,

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I mean my brother refers to it as Appalachia.

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Speaker 7: It's very close, it's not far off. I mean like

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all day, don't see anybody. Just yes, yeah, ride your

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bike for We were just talking about that that I

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spent from I don't know, let's say twelve, when your

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parents kind of gave you the you can ride on

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your bike, and I would be gone all day bicycle,

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not come home till seven, eight o'clock. I never remember

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being hydrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you literally were like you walked.

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Speaker 7: In here and you had me a bottle and you're

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like water, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm worried about your hydration.

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Speaker 7: Now, we would just be gone all day and maybe

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suck a drink out of someone's garden hose or would

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take a last stream right. They were like, oh, that

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looks pretty clear. I'll drink out of the fact that

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you're downstream from the dairy farm. Paid no attention.

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Speaker 2: We walked it.

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Speaker 4: Remember we got caught on an Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Were you with us?

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Speaker 4: We were all down by Moody's farm and I feel

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like our parents drove there was those big tunnels on

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the road and Netty and maybe Chris.

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Speaker 7: Were you with us, Kevin I went in all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we went. We were.

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Speaker 4: But that's where the cows.

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Speaker 2: It was in the cow pasture. We used to fish

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under there. Yeah, when we were kids, we would fishing.

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Speaker 7: You didn't think about the fact that there was cows

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or whatever. Yeah, we were healthy.

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Speaker 2: Look at us down Oh absolutely. Yeah. Well we're still kicking.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you think about it, it's pretty amazing

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the stuff we did, and A we're still here.

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Speaker 2: And B well when I look at at like even

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uh my kids and stuff, I go, boy, I don't

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know how I sometimes survived with the stupid ship that

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I did. Living in a rural area, you invented stuff

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to do, Like there wasn't video games. We didn't have

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cable till nineteen eighty nine because it was per square mile.

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I don't know if pine Planes got it sooner.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was out rich kids. I was out in

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the country part of pine Planes, which is even worse

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than the city it was. I was in college. It

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was a couple of years after you got My parents.

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Speaker 2: So there was no cable and you we used to

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have my father go on the roof. Yeah, we didn't

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have that. We had dad who climbed.

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Speaker 7: Up to No, we had the rotor, and I remember,

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like the wind would come. Yes, you turned to antenna

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to the south because you wanted nine and channel eleven

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out of New York City. You wanted it to the

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east if you wanted there was a station Hartford, and

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then you turned it to the north for the Albany.

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Speaker 2: Say you got all those I got nothing. We had

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to stations and our antenna was like half Your.

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Speaker 4: Parents were teachers and they knew that TV probably I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, but instead I went around and did this. And

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when I look at my guys like it was, I

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don't know if parenting changed, if they were more involved.

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I always I always look at things and go was

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it Vietnam. That kind of fucked up a generation. And

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I don't mean that that way, but think of it

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this way. World War two they call it the Greatest generation.

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They won the war, they come back, everybody's happy. There's

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all this stuff Vietnam. They didn't know why they were there.

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People died, lives were screwed up. We shouldn't have been there.

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It was the spread of communism. There was no reason.

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We had the French fight at first, it didn't work.

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And I just think in the psyche of it, he.

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Speaker 4: Paid attention and at least that I didn't is that

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we were there for Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was just all this stuff, and

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I went, I just wonder if it's like screwed the

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psyche of people where there's like fucking guys, do whatever

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you're gonna do, it doesn't matter. We used to build

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jumps in the driveway when you babysat me, and I

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used to jump my bicycle. Absolutely nothing. That's my point

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is nothing do this.

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Speaker 4: Even in Dallas. They can build a ramp in.

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Speaker 2: A s well. Now they've got like my kids have,

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Matt one.

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Speaker 4: Time, Maggie, this is a suburb of Dallas. But remember

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we couldn't find her. They were playing hide and seek

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and she wouldn't come out. And as we were panicked,

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we're out there in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she didn't come out, she didn't come out.

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Speaker 4: Finally I was.

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Speaker 2: How old was she? Five? Six?

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Speaker 4: Like we let our kids run in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I let my guys do that stuff too. Like

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Jackson built a love Calvin and Hobbes. So he built

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a big ramp up to the roof on the it

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was a low roof on the side of the garage

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in snow, and then the the sledge shot out, so

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he jumped off, and of course he breaks a couple

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of toes on the wind on the landing.

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Speaker 7: You got ten of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a figure at this point. You know, there

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was a lot of broken bones with my guys. There

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was a lot of a lot of a lot of messes,

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a lot of injuries for sports and all that crap.

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But I just don't remember, like there wasn't the adventures

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in cars that we had. There wasn't. But you weren't

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driving that far.

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Speaker 7: You were driving.

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Speaker 2: You were twelve miles to school and you could drag

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Speaker 4: Who used to beat the school bus. Like the school

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bus would go by, and then we'd be like, oh god,

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we got to get in front of the well.

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Speaker 2: And then there was the little old man with the hat.

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Oh oh, he would always be coming up Charlesbury Own.

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I don't know who it was, no orthing.

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Speaker 4: We're like, old man with the hat, wet buy him?

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember the guy. There was a little old

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man in the hat. On the Taconic State Parkway and

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I'm driving and Chris Bartolomeo goes, get as close to

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that car as you can, and I got as clothes

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as I could, and he leaned out. Now this is

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on the TOCMIC. He leaned out and he knocks on

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the window and the old man like looks over and

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he gives him the finger and we speed off. And

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at this point now I go, if my kids, who

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does why?

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Speaker 4: Because you're always hyperactive, even as.

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Speaker 2: A kid, as hyperactive as a kid, What are you

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talking about? I remember I used to torture you on

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the school bus. I mean I tortured you on the

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school bo I know.

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Speaker 7: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: He was a bully.

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Speaker 2: I was a bully. I don't really I yes, I do,

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I remember, but I thought I did it in a

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way like I was making fun of you watching soap operas.

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That's what I remember. Didn't you watch soap operas? And

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I used to always try to come up with a

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storyline and I would lean over the seat and go

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did they do that? And you would like get so

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fucking mad at me. Excuse me, you would get so

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mad at me, and then I and I would just

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keep it up. And I remember once you got off

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the bus and you turn around and you scream shut

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up at the bus, and I was like, I wonder,

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this is a terrible thing, Like I shouldn't be that

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happy about it. I guess I was not. You were

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not me and mean, you were just ball busting. Yeah

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it is. I never liked mean mean. I never did mean.

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Mean to really hurt somebody made no sense to me.

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But to pick on people. I got even picked on

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Joe when he was on the track team and stuff.

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And you know, I remember I was I would get Joe.

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I would get Joe's older brother, and then I would

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try to pick on him. On Joe, he would get

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me information but I but then the older guys tried

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to stick me in the toilet because I would my

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mouth never stop. Right, what is it? Adhd you think?

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So I do? Okay a little bit. I think, yeah,

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I think there probably is, and I always go I

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don't know that, certainly. I have found coping mechanisms and

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I found a career where I could do a lot

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of different things. But I set timers all the time,

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which is a cop. So I'll focus on this for

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whatever the amount of time and then right, but if

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you like, and I have I hate messes, but I'm

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very unorganized. So I give myself chances to file things

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and do it, and I have to set those I'll

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do twenty minutes and I'll lose my mind.

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Speaker 4: Set the checklist, see which ones?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess you're right. But I never wanted

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to be medicated because I think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think any of us were back then.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean I mean as an adult, right,

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I'm saying as an adult, I feel like it dulls

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your creativity, and don't you And I'll tell you what,

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you know, what really worked for me was running as

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a kid. I mean that was that really worked. Now

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I'm thirty past over weight and I can just about walk,

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drink beer instead. Well, I would say that if anybody

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had a drinking problem, it was me and I I've

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curved that as well. But it took a lot. Took

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a lot, and there was a lot. I mean, my

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old man was We had all kinds, but he was

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always at our All of them drank, yes, well drink

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alcohol did not that's true.

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Speaker 7: But like your parties, that are like parties. Like my

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dad drove the car. Yeah, he drove the car stuck

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from the.

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Speaker 2: Was about five hundred feet.

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Speaker 5: Across one hundred yards.

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Speaker 7: He ran over their mailbox because he came from work,

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stopped off, had a few beers to stop off.

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Speaker 4: Me to Sophie's house.

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Speaker 2: Remember Sophie vaguely I do.

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Speaker 7: She lived further up the hill, Fancore. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And he would stop off and have a couple of

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drinks there, you know, and then you come down and

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then see Ted and Ted's outside. Ted's having a scotch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Ted, that's.

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Speaker 7: Sixty nine scotch. I don't even know if they make

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it anymore, but my brain Ted, they'll remembered, had a.

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Speaker 2: Unique look, right, His hair was kind of.

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Speaker 7: Back top d the tired city cop, that's what it

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was a retired cop. He must have retired, like after

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twenty years.

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Speaker 2: But those boys were always in trouble too, or they were.

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They were older than me significantly a lot.

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Speaker 7: I mean the youngest one was a year older than me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, so they were older, way older. Didn't

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one of them hit a horse while drunk?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought one. There was a lot of live show.

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Speaker 7: There was a lot of live stops jump all allegedly allegedly.

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So let's say there was a lot of venison that

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would jump in the road sometimes on your way home

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from a party. Yeah, and you never hit it, but

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it caused you to veer off, yes, and into the.

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Speaker 2: Tree, into the tree.

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Speaker 4: Had a situation.

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Speaker 2: Wait, he's had You had a problem like that with

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them deer?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh for real, those ghosts. What did you hit a tree? Yeah?

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But you never I don't remember you. No, No, See

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that was the thing because there was a lot of

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that that went on in the front.

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Speaker 7: Someone was driving radically fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those were cars. I mean, you go back

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there now and I look at these roads, they're cart paths.

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Speaker 4: We would go so fast.

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Speaker 7: I was just home two weeks ago and on Bullshead road,

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and I'm like getting mad, why are you going so slow?

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Slate slash bulls heads nothing but curves and hills, and

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I'm just wanting to cut to the inside, like Mario Andretti. Yeah,

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And I'm like, there's just all I'll call them local

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slash city folk up into the northern House. And You're like,

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why are we going forty? I know you know the

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speed limit is seventy on this road.

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Speaker 2: I remember it is. And the trees, No, and the

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trees are supposed to be fifteen feet off the road.

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I thought, my code, they're not. They're not. They're right there.

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And I remember you and I worked at Adams and Kingston.

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Speaker 4: She did, I don't remember you worked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked in the Delhi you guys, I think

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we're in protos.

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Speaker 7: I remember, and I handled me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was great. The Bologney was my favorite.

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Speaker 7: I picked up that I can handle.

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Speaker 2: All was phenomenal. And if you got the German boloney,

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even better, even better.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And there was no lusteria back then.

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Speaker 2: No, well there probably was. Yeah, we had an immune system.

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Speaker 7: But we also drank out of the stream.

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Speaker 2: This is we ate ra cookie dough and yeah, but

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I remember saying to you. We were going home and

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I you went on the Taconic and I took Bull's

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head and I I raced you. And I was in

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your driveway out of my car leaning on it when

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you pulled in and coming off of the Taconic, and

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I remember you going how fast did you go? And

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I swear to God, had anybody like someone checking their mail,

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I would have killed them. I was probably doing sixty

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five seventy on the car paths coming around the And

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I love that, Yes, before, all the time, and even

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now like now, I get annoyed right because I go

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people are driving and I see this stuff in the speed.

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But I still love speed. I drag racing. I love

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when I can go down to Empire Drag and get

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in a car and go one hundred and twenty miles

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an hour and a quarter mile.

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Speaker 4: I love that that got a speeding ticket racing mustangs.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Oh, but you were so proud, yeah, Like I

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remember you calling me a hearing word that you had

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beat my record.

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Speaker 2: I did the land speed record, but here was the thing.

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Speaker 7: Eighty and you were like you got three for eighty

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three the King Kings n cliff Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Here was the thing that I didn't know there was

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We didn't know, right, anybody could go as fast as

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we wanted. Who was the guy in your class? And

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I think it was your class or Joe's class. No,

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not Mike Egan that his dad was a state trooper

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and he had a mustache, dark hair that I don't remember.

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But this guy, well, this guy wound up doing weekends

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in jail because he put on his dad's uniform when

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his dad was out, and he went out and pulled

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people over and wrote some tickets.

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Speaker 5: That sounds really familiar, it doesn't it, do not remember.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name. He used to take out

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the radar gun and we would see how fast we

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could go in some places. But the real official was

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the ticket, because that was that was the thing. So

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I was coming I had my dad's Fierro right, yes,

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the worst car.

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Speaker 7: Your dad came home with it. And I remember my

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dad going, what.

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Speaker 2: Is he's a family of five, Like, evidently this.

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Speaker 7: Is my commuter car. I guess I have None of

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your kids will ever rock? And then you were probably

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going to work.

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Speaker 2: I was coming back from Adam and I were like,

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how fast in the little put in the stones hot

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rocks tape and I'm cranking the rolling stones and I'm

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flying down just before and I see the cop and

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I see him light up and then turn around, and

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I go, I so badly want to run him. Wanted

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to throw my change into the basket and just fly

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over that bridge, which, by the way, I think the

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speed limit on the bridge is.

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Speaker 7: I just was home and I came across going.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a crawl.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, what's crawl? Added a light? Like, yes, Cliff

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whatever Rose because my mom lives over that right, and

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they added a light. Brian Beck, Yeah, so it backs

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up across the bridge. Yes, it's you just get there

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and you're like, oh, there's just a light thing that

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it's been added. We had no lights, no, no stop lights,

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no nothing, no four way stops.

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Speaker 2: Now, you could have just kept going.

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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, it was a I think

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I could have.

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Speaker 2: I think I could have outrun the cop. I knew

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exactly where I was gonna go. I was gonna get

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on River Roads and then Ferncliff and Hide.

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Speaker 5: I knew exactly you could pull in there and they're

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like bushes up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was exactly what I was going to do.

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Speaker 7: It was like a TV show, like you knew where

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you're Like, I'm pretty sure when I got my ticket,

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like I thought, like if I just cut around that

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back road around the back of Addlebury just it's like

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Addlebury Road or something, I could have just cut up

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that road or the road right after it that was

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literally a dirt road and like and that literally was

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like he'll see my dust and he'll know where I

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went because they'll see the dust.

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Speaker 2: But we all went to an elementary school that had

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a farm and a cow into the playground and it

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was on a dirt road and my brother so they

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had closed it for a little while and then they

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opened it up again. And my brother, Kevin was is

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eight years younger than I am, and I picked him

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up from school and at the time, the teacher just passed.

475
00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:20,400
She was friends with my mom. And I'm gonna forget.

476
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,799
Speaker 5: Her name, Miss Morrow.

477
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: No did she pass to Do you remember Miss Morrow? Oh? Yeah,

478
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,920
I remember Miss Morrol. We were in school still, Oh

479
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,759
she did? Yeah? Oh no, this was uh, you'll actually

480
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:39,079
you guys would know the family. And I'm forgetting I think,

481
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:44,759
But he wrote in his journal, my brother we spun out.

482
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,480
I fishtailed, and I punched it too hard and we just,

483
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,200
I mean, we spun and it was a cloud of

484
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,079
dust and I just took my foot off the gas

485
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,279
and just let the car settle out. And I look

486
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:56,240
at Kevin. His eyes are as big as saucers. You know,

487
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,000
he's sitting there. He's eight years old. I'm sixteen, and

488
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,400
he writes in his journal at school, my brother drives

489
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,720
like the drives like the dukes of Hazzard River. She

490
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,640
called my parents and told on me. Yeah, there were

491
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,839
a lot of calls to my parents.

492
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: A lot of people would call and you didn't know

493
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:15,519
that you'd gotten in trouble.

494
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 7: Your parents gave you like the leashed. It was like

495
00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:20,440
six inches of you know, how much will we go

496
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:24,680
with this lie until we'll just catch it? So like

497
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,279
we remember, like I had a car, and then you

498
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,799
had a winter car. You had like a nice car,

499
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:36,480
like a Mustang. Yeah, summer car, my winter car. So

500
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:41,400
you'd go buy exactly right, you'd go buy a fifty

501
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,160
dollars Pinto from somebody your dad knew that was getting

502
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,680
rid of it because it was a Pinto and we

503
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,839
hate it. And I'm like, okay, here's fifty dollars, I'll

504
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:50,839
buy it, and you drove it in the winter time

505
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,599
because you don't want to ruin your good summer carr,

506
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,920
good car, your prom car, you know whatever. And my

507
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,759
brother had one. He had like a Vega, and he

508
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,599
I remember he had bought the Vega from mister Peppy.

509
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,359
It was a Vega station wagon and it was red

510
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,240
with like white.

511
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: Pinstripes sat I remember him driving that car.

512
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 7: So it sat in our driveway but didn't have plates

513
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,119
on it because it wasn't registered.

514
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: So who took it?

515
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,599
Speaker 7: I had to take it because I know where the

516
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,759
keys are and my brothers, you know wherever, and we

517
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,119
live in.

518
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: No one cared.

519
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:35,279
Speaker 7: No one cares, or you thought no one cared. I

520
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,960
get I get in the car and I'm like, I'm

521
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,039
gonna say he's three years older than me, so he's

522
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920
like seventeen and I'm fourteen. I get in the car

523
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,880
and I start ripping down the road in this Vega

524
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,200
down Willowbrook Road, down past the Commons, down past the Moodies,

525
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,920
and doesn't I think it was Sylvia calls my mom

526
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,640
because Sylvia is just being Sylvia, and she was like,

527
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,279
I don't think she called to be like to turn

528
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,720
me in. I think she was calling to say, I

529
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:05,279
didn't realize Matt got his license, like.

530
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 6: You know, because you don't really know passive aggressive, like

531
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:10,400
you don't really maybe.

532
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 7: I don't know if she Sylvia's daughter baby sat so

533
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,920
that she had a pretty good.

534
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,279
Speaker 2: General Well, their son was also killed at a motorcycle.

535
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 7: I mean literally, like you know, hair on fire as

536
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,640
fast as a Vega would go down a dirt road,

537
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640
ripping by their house and she's out there gardening or something,

538
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,920
and then you know, anybody take the cars out of

539
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,480
the driveway. Now, the question is always posed by your parents.

540
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: Now there's ring, doorbell, whithing.

541
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,279
Speaker 7: And the answers is, of course you're a fourteen or

542
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,960
fifteen year old kid, and no, I didn't take the car.

543
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,480
Why would I do that. I don't have my license yet.

544
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,559
And then they'd be like, really, that didn't work so

545
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,200
well for somebody, because Sylvia said that you were going

546
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:58,559
by her house in the red vega, and I'm like, well,

547
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:07,079
I had to move it. You didn't make I just

548
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720
thought I'd drive to the end of the road, come back,

549
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,640
and then the next step would be so you had

550
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,920
to move it all the way to the end of

551
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,279
the Wallerbrook Road and do a doughnut and come back.

552
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,519
And then you're like my.

553
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Dad us always say to me, my job isn't to

554
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,519
ruin your good time, it's to keep you alive.

555
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 7: And it's a valid point.

556
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,759
Speaker 2: It was a valid point, you know. But even your

557
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,400
mom had called my parents a few times. Oh yeah,

558
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,319
I got the call that I'm hanging out with the

559
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,039
wrong crowd. And then because her mom was a teacher,

560
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,599
no I know. And then there was the I'm camping

561
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,400
with Chris Bartolomeo. We're staying out in the woods and

562
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:47,640
we would have no at his house, and there would

563
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,319
be at your house Stissing Mountain Road, and we were

564
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,240
camping off in the woods there and we would have

565
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,960
his cousins buy us beer and stuff.

566
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: So yeah, so we were drawnking, we're a statute limitations

567
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:02,240
running out.

568
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: So your mom didn't. So but here's what happened. So

569
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,319
it was the end of the year, and so you're

570
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,079
I call my parents, but it was long distance. So

571
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,640
my parents put in an eight hundred number, so there

572
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,640
was call Home America. There was an eight hundred er.

573
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,720
So I called them and said, hey, can I stay

574
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:24,720
another night and my father's like, uh, missus Fleming called

575
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,240
and I said, oh really, he goes, yeah, I says

576
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,799
she needed to scrape points together to get you through

577
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,599
the regions. And I went, oh good, and I said

578
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,759
so can. I say what do you what are you doing?

579
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:41,119
And I said nothing, We'll be there to get you.

580
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160
And then I was like getting I mean, I remember

581
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,400
him driving down one and I made some smart ass

582
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,680
comment and he's like trying to hit me from the

583
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:53,519
front seat and I'm just moving my legs back because

584
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:56,119
he was so mad. When I graduated, he said to me,

585
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,680
I don't know whether to shake your hand or kick

586
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240
your ass. That's what my father said to me, little

587
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,279
bit of both, yeah, because he said dumber than you.

588
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,799
You practically had to drool, and you got an award

589
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,519
and you got nothing, nothing. And then just recently on

590
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:10,440
a phone conversation, he said to me, you know, there

591
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,160
were a lot of people who didn't realize that you

592
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920
were Katie and Kevin's older brother because you were never

593
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:16,720
in school at the same time. We were never in

594
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:19,079
the same building. Because I was five years older than you.

595
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,440
Were always gone, so I was always gone. And he said,

596
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,000
and when they found out. They were very surprised. And

597
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,240
that's not a compliment.

598
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:28,519
Speaker 7: And I can totally hear your dad.

599
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: It was always he was always like the always has

600
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:37,119
always with me. There was always the sing always.

601
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,559
Speaker 4: At the end of the sentence that we were in

602
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
a school district that was so big that we had

603
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,200
two different area codes.

604
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, and it was cost money to call.

605
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,039
I got in trouble for having like the bill, and

606
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,039
he was existence, oh, up the phone billing.

607
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,519
Speaker 5: Yea, this is where.

608
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 7: Your father I had come out with the thing. And

609
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160
he'd have the bill and in his hand and yellow

610
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:09,480
a yellow legal pad page page alene page, and he'd

611
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,039
be like, I put new ball joints in your car.

612
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,759
That was two hundred and ten dollars or whatever. And

613
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:15,960
at the end of the month it was like a

614
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,000
ledger and he's like, I know you work, where's your money?

615
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Wow? And you're so, you know what, Yeah, but I

616
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,839
don't know that that's a bad Did he charge you

617
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640
rent in high school? But if you when you.

618
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 7: Because the rent after college if you still lived at home, yeah.

619
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Well that makes it a week a week. Yeah, I

620
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,119
think mine was two hundred a month or something. So yeah,

621
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,599
pretty much the same, but it included food.

622
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:50,799
Speaker 7: Yes, borrowing a rental car, cable, well, you know everything

623
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,680
like you think back, like man that included a laundry.

624
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,839
Mom would be like, oh, I threw your laundry. And

625
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:57,240
as long as I was doing and now you know,

626
00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:58,839
you'd be like, I wish someone would.

627
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: Do my life. I wish we would do Andre. I

628
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,799
was all that stuff. I couldn't pay the rent once

629
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:09,839
because I got arrested for a fake ID how he

630
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,559
didn't get arrested.

631
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,279
Speaker 7: They looked like they looked like like a library.

632
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:17,839
Speaker 2: No, I know this was I was working at allegedly

633
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,319
at w Allegedly I was working at WPDH for the

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440
summer midnight to six. So it's eight o'clock in the

635
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,279
morning and I'm driving home and I had overdue inspection

636
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,079
and I get pulled over and it says license and registration.

637
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,839
When he the trooper walked up, no he saw. He goes,

638
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,400
why do you have two licenses? I go, I don't

639
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
have two licenses. He goes, yes, you do. And so

640
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,039
then he says to me, we can do this the

641
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:43,039
easy way or the hard way. You can show me

642
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,920
the license, or I can arrest you here and have

643
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,240
your car impounded, So I gave him the license and

644
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:53,680
then he so I figured, like honesty is the best policy.

645
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,920
And by the way, I'm about two weeks from my

646
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,000
twenty first birthday. Nope, follow me to the troop K headquarters.

647
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
I go there. They handcuffed me to the desk. I

648
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,160
had fingerprint, mugshot. And my parents are in Arizona hiking

649
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,599
the grand can my brother and sister. So did you

650
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
call Tom to get you out? No? I think I

651
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,839
got out of my own. No. Tom was one where

652
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,160
I had a lot of parties. I and and they

653
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:24,759
people here. People people just stay. So like you know,

654
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:28,799
a couple of my buddies, Chris Brenner, Uh, Jeff Cott,

655
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:29,839
I went to.

656
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: A party at your house or I stopped by.

657
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were really drunk, probably like.

658
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,839
Speaker 4: You made a pass at me drunk.

659
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,079
Speaker 2: Look at that.

660
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: And Ieart.

661
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't recall. And I was very drunk at

662
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,240
the time, just like the Pink Floyd. I was very

663
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:51,880
drunk at the time.

664
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,559
Speaker 5: You're forgiven.

665
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: I was, uh yeah, But so these guys came into

666
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,440
the nothing was locked and my parents were away and

667
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,599
I was not going to have a party. So word

668
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720
got out my parents were gone, and I think it

669
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:07,000
was Marty Cassi and his buddies. They came in. They

670
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
drank all the beer that was in the house, and

671
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,839
then they set the cans up on the wood burning

672
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,599
stove downstairs and got my bb gun and they shot

673
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920
holes in all this stuff and then they laughed. And

674
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,319
I come home to this mess. I'm like, oh my god.

675
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
So then I get a call. Hey, man, we were

676
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920
looking for it. I said that wasn't having any parties.

677
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,680
I just wasn't going to do it this time. So

678
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,759
I needed to call your dad to replace the beer

679
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,160
I saw.

680
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,039
Speaker 7: I remember going to a liquor store for you, yes,

681
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,799
being like that was the I'm like, we'll just buy

682
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,279
the cheapest, yes, whatever, whatever, whatever, Like we don't need

683
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,440
to buy stolen goose. We can buy three feathers, three

684
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,160
feather and put that in there. And yeah, I won't know,

685
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,119
because how often will he really be like he might He.

686
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Didn't have a discerning palate. It was fine, It was fine.

687
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 7: It wasn't like any of those that it was basically moonshine. Yeah,

688
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:03,960
but he did like and You're like.

689
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I was so much. You saved me a ton

690
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:09,039
of money. And then but the problem was I got

691
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,760
my parents came home early, and there's the beer on

692
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,920
the front steps waiting for me to put it away,

693
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,320
and I had to explain, and uh, I just gave

694
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,159
up at that point. But I mean I did all.

695
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,840
I think out of everybody at this table, I probably

696
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,920
did the worst amount it.

697
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,039
Speaker 5: We were like National Honor Society.

698
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: Yes, you all were National Honor Society. Were you National

699
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Honor Society too? Oh?

700
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I was not.

701
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,639
Speaker 2: You were at National No.

702
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 7: I was busy at the library.

703
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,039
Speaker 4: At the library, the library, oh god, reading forever by.

704
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: I didn't. Uh.

705
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely was a national I was not in

706
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,000
the Nationalist like everybody. All the people I hung out

707
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:55,960
with were, and somehow I was.

708
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,119
Speaker 4: But you said you graduated top ten in your class.

709
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: I did, but you didn't make the top twenty the people.

710
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't even think I was top ten in my class.

711
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's with ten people in the class I got.

712
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't. You were eleven? Was like number one?

713
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Or were?

714
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: I was top ten?

715
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: But I thought you gave a speech at graduation.

716
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:18,599
Speaker 7: Oh, I thought you were one of the gave a

717
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:20,239
speech on the evils of pine planes.

718
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, were there evils a pine plane. Like sometimes I

719
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:24,719
look back and I think that there was a real

720
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920
we grew up in an area of real halves and

721
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,760
have nots, And sometimes I really.

722
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,079
Speaker 5: Feel it's with the summer and when the summer.

723
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,039
Speaker 2: But I mean there was some real like real haves

724
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,159
and have nots, And at times I felt like even

725
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:43,079
the teachers sometimes treated the kids that were called scumbags.

726
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,360
To forgive me, it's not a very kind turn, but

727
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,800
they were even treated and dismissed as scumbags, like they

728
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,079
weren't even going to give their effort, you know what

729
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:51,360
I mean.

730
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was definitely like like you could tell like

731
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,159
yeah they were, they weren't given the benefit of the doubt.

732
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: They were like looking back on it, that's horrible, it

733
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,880
is horrible. And like I remember that I always came in.

734
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: Like ship, Yeah, Frank. I smelled Frank all the time.

735
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,440
And Frank was like wiry because I remember getting in

736
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,159
a fight with Frank. I forget his last name, yeah,

737
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,639
and he was a wiry kid and like strong and

738
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,519
farm strong and farmers strong, and I remember getting I

739
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,559
remember having him punch me and I'm like this ain't

740
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:26,880
gonna go.

741
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,639
Speaker 7: Strong is very real. Yeah, especially if you like you said,

742
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,440
did hey.

743
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,519
Speaker 2: Hey all summer? When you you did that, you sweat

744
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:37,079
your ass off.

745
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 7: That's up in silo or throw silos down. You're like,

746
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,159
these guys are strong. Yeah, because I did hey at

747
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,000
Freddy's at the Moody's for Clarence Nap.

748
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: I didn't do Nap. I only did fred.

749
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 7: Because Clarence paid the best.

750
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,039
Speaker 2: I think we got our milk from Clarence. We used

751
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,840
to get it pre pasture from Clarence.

752
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,639
Speaker 7: Wrong.

753
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: Clarence was the guy across from Moody's, Clarence Nap. Yeah,

754
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,239
that's where we would go.

755
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 7: Moodies was with a glass jar, and you used to

756
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,800
go down and just open a tank of.

757
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,119
Speaker 2: Fresh gass and you left your money and after money,

758
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,800
and then it really is like separate and you get

759
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,880
the top. I literally would go.

760
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,559
Speaker 7: To drink of milk and you'd have to take the

761
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,599
glass jar out. And this is probably why I'm at

762
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,239
burn Gary. Glass milk in the jar, but you had

763
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,719
to shake it up or else you were drinking the

764
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,880
butter off the top it would separate. You could skim

765
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,400
it off, skim it off, but it was in the jar.

766
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,199
So we would just shake the heck out of it.

767
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: And then make it and then be like, oh now

768
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,719
it's back to we had one of the old fashioned

769
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,639
you had milk contained like this silver milk container that

770
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,519
we that.

771
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: We had in a decorative one of those milk care

772
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,679
still in my house.

773
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,039
Speaker 2: Do you really it was decorative? Well, decorative like farm decorative.

774
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:58,119
There was that whole time.

775
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 7: Mine is red with cow uh emblems on it.

776
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: I redid it.

777
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 7: I redid it so it was more authentic.

778
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, guys, because at Lisa is a

779
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
principal at a school, a school by the way, that

780
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,880
I think is great that it survived. It's over forty years,

781
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,800
I believe right, forty five years and you're an educator

782
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:24,440
all that time in one building, good or bad. I

783
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400
almost feel like there's the transition with the same people.

784
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,079
I had an opportunity to do to our Lady of Lords.

785
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,039
I got in there, and I always think that I

786
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:34,960
probably would.

787
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,559
Speaker 7: Have done that.

788
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know what was really funny is like I

789
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,079
had pretty good SAT scores, so I got it. I

790
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:44,159
got in everywhere.

791
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: He had eight HD or still does I had. He

792
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,920
could he was smart, but he couldn't apply himself.

793
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,159
Speaker 2: No So when I was going to college, I got in,

794
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,840
but every school like Boston University, said why don't you

795
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,039
come and take a summer course to see My father's like,

796
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,960
you will drink your way out of school and you

797
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:02,800
get one shot on my dime. And I went, okay,

798
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,679
that was it. So that that was my thing. But yeah,

799
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,800
so I got into Lord's and I wanted to play sports,

800
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,239
and my father's like, I'm not driving all the way

801
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,159
back in the Buckemchie every night to pick you up.

802
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,880
And that was it. It was over. There was no discussion.

803
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 7: It was just that's the nature of the beast. Yeah, well,

804
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,519
I mean I don't.

805
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: That was I don't want to come get you. So

806
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,519
that was it. I didn't play winter sports because they

807
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,960
were I watch what my brother and sister do. My

808
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,880
I have a seven year old nephew who's on a

809
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:32,639
like some elite race team. They have a place up

810
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,679
at a mountain somewhere and they're all up everywhere everywhere,

811
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,440
and I watched my sister. My my niece is into

812
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,039
synchronized swimming and she just did the Junior Olympics. She's

813
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,480
out in Oregon for the Junior Olympics. My parents would

814
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:48,280
do ship they do anything. Leave me alone, Let me

815
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,079
live in peace and then die. That's all I want

816
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,800
to do. That's what he was swimming from. Huh, why

817
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,239
did they play for you to go to the they did?

818
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,400
I didn't go. Didn't go because he didn't want to

819
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,519
come and get me. They've working pay for me.

820
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,039
Speaker 7: Asked what by p PCs to go to lords?

821
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:05,079
Speaker 1: I was not?

822
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 7: This was this is usually a lot of people went

823
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,880
to lords after PCs said.

824
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,119
Speaker 2: Often like no, like was it gonna work for me? Lords? Was? No?

825
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,519
You had to take it an admission test because I

826
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,119
remember this. You brought the guy's name up. Egan, Michael

827
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:24,719
Eagan did not get in.

828
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 7: Oh he didn't. Sure you were nice about it.

829
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,559
Speaker 2: I didn't say a fucking word because he was he was.

830
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,119
He was a little bit of a bully. Do you

831
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:37,320
remember the worse than me? But do you remember the

832
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,199
gym that his mom opened? His mom opened a gym

833
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,360
right on mainstream pipeplanes? Come on, Joe, you gotta remember.

834
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,719
It was all the belts and stuff and it would

835
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,679
just jiggle you. So you don't remember that. And it

836
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,920
was a big window, just like the one here right

837
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,119
Chris Bartolomeo and I used to sit and watch these.

838
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,679
We would laugh harrassed off at these fat ladies sit

839
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,840
there and getting jiggled like it was. It was I

840
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,800
think it lasted two months and it was gone. But

841
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,159
it was all this equipment that they were like old

842
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,599
school bad. It looked like I remember being a fat

843
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:09,679
Yes it.

844
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

845
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 7: Somebody had one in their basement. Glorious like they because

846
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,880
like their dad was super in the city and people

847
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,079
would leave stuff in the apartment and he would have

848
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:23,679
to go and bring it up, and they bring it

849
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,800
all up state. Were like little kids. Has got this

850
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,480
big weather with the offset you know wheel so that

851
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,039
it would jiggle and we'd all be in there, you know.

852
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:39,440
We thought it was the greatest thing, and we would

853
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,159
have it like around there, around, you know, because it

854
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,440
was like set up for adults, and we're like, you know,

855
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,559
seven year old kids, like I don't know what could

856
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,800
possibly go wrong with having a bunch of kids play

857
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,559
with a belt around or not.

858
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,599
Speaker 4: We were just there when we came up in Memorial Day.

859
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,679
And I bet it's still there. I bet you were

860
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,000
at Nettie's stop by Neti's mom's house.

861
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,519
Speaker 2: She still she's still there.

862
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:08,199
Speaker 4: She's still doing well.

863
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old is she? She has ninety right, ninety two,

864
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:13,239
I'm guessing. Yeah.

865
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: We were talking about my dad takes care of her,

866
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:17,440
all right, his dad, Her dad's.

867
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: Like the mayor, did you? It wasn't you. I was

868
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440
thinking of somebody who went to Germany as a foreign

869
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,719
exchange student, and I remember being so impressed because we

870
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,719
didn't it was French and Spanish was offered. It might

871
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,840
have been Nicole, and I remember her being at your

872
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,320
house talking to Missus Nettie in is that her names

873
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,480
glorious missus laurious in German and like fluent. Had to

874
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,039
be Nicole, right, because she went yeah, And I remember going, man,

875
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,960
I want to learn it. I always thought the greatest

876
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,119
thing you could do for your mind was learn another language.

877
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: I think that toolo.

878
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I one of my boys studies doing lingo.

879
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:04,280
I get the seven hundred day streak or whatever game.

880
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,199
Yes they did. That's what we need, we need to gain.

881
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,559
Speaker 7: I'm not fluent in French despite my two years of

882
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,199
solid Missus Francis.

883
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,119
Speaker 2: And Missus Francis and she dated mister Mitchell. They held

884
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:19,400
hands once I saw them.

885
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: But I know think dated mister Mitchell. Mister I think

886
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:27,559
mister Mitchell didn't date women.

887
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,119
Speaker 2: Well, I remember seeing them holding hands.

888
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 7: Well once there was Missus Fry.

889
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,119
Speaker 2: They went out once or twice. I think you're right.

890
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,559
Speaker 7: Missus Francis was married to mister francisintendent, and he.

891
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: Was from There's a lot of ancestual chick going on there,

892
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:44,480
but he.

893
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 7: Was like the superintendent. You'll know this because Elisa's mom

894
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:54,559
was like having an insider for snow days. Oh, because

895
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:56,119
you're laid in.

896
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: Bed, Yes, and you listened to the radio.

897
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 7: One to one point five w pd H and it

898
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,599
went alphabetical.

899
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Yes it was, and you'd go you'd wait for the peace.

900
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 7: You'd wait for the peace, and he'd go pine Bush, Yes,

901
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,880
and then they'd go red Hook. How is that possible

902
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,199
to every school district.

903
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Around us, I know? And we had the most miles

904
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:17,880
to cover, right, And.

905
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 7: Mister Francis was from like the rumor was he was

906
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,679
from like up north, like Mesino, like this thing snow,

907
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:25,599
I'll show you snow. Then can school.

908
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: And so it was over.

909
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 7: But then there would be a ring, because you know,

910
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,599
we had the wall phone ring going, yes, please be,

911
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:39,199
please be. Anne Fleming and my mom would be like oh,

912
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,239
and it'd be like this and there's gonna be no

913
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,840
school today, and we were like, your mom would come

914
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,639
in all like I'm gonna have to work today, but

915
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,679
you guys can be home.

916
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: You can stay home and beat the crap out of your.

917
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,679
Speaker 7: Of course he had bruises, Oh my god.

918
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:04,599
Speaker 4: But that was the last time because no I listened

919
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,760
in on a phone call and he was talking to

920
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239
a girl and he found out and then he came

921
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:09,719
beat me and.

922
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 7: He got a pound them. I'm sorry. I'dn't have to

923
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,480
pound on you know.

924
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you have little brothers, and well they

925
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,400
were so significantly younger that I never pounded on. Probably

926
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,719
no I used to play nail Chucky and we used

927
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,599
to when he was learning to walk. We used to

928
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:26,880
take stuffed animals and pop out from around corners, me

929
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,840
and Mike Murray and throw them and try to sweep

930
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,440
his legs out, and I remember getting them hors Kevin.

931
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,079
My mother was freaked out because Kevin didn't walk. He

932
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,920
would just scoop because every time and he would pull

933
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,679
his toys and stuff, and every time he started to walk,

934
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,039
we would pop out nailhim with the stuffed animal. I

935
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:44,639
could take that red fox by its little tails, a

936
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:46,360
little stuff fox, and I would whip it right out

937
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,920
of his legs. So, yes, I did, I did my fish.

938
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's normal siblings stuff.

939
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: It's was that one I remember.

940
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: I feel like that was the last one.

941
00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: That was the last one. Beat. But I would think

942
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800
for you, like you grew up your kids grew up

943
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,760
here correct and but a very different environment and almost

944
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,679
totally different my kids so, but but maybe better. I

945
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,159
don't know, it's healthier different, yes, different.

946
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,039
Speaker 7: What I mean. So they went local school, you know,

947
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:19,559
in big school graduate with four or five hundred kids.

948
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: That was Penfield, right, Yeah, and you know my daughter

949
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,320
did really well. Your daughter was brilliant.

950
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 7: She's a PhD student state in Pennsylvania. It's my sister

951
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,599
was like, okay, so I don't know where the genie.

952
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,199
Evidently all that time I spent in the library rubbed off, yes,

953
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,639
there you go.

954
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: Person.

955
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 7: But they would come down state and I would go

956
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:45,559
visit the microcosm of Stanfordville, Pine Plains whatever, and like

957
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,559
I'll just use Sissing Lake. So we went and met

958
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:49,599
some of my friends from my class. Hey, so and

959
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:51,800
so I was going to be assisting Lake and I'd

960
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,519
go there and my kids are like, what are you

961
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,920
like a celebrity because like everybody like I ran into

962
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,719
like mister Mellinger and like and this is your you know,

963
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,880
your gym teacher. He's like, well and you know his

964
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,760
daughter's there. And people were like, like people know your name.

965
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:13,079
It was small and they were your teacher or whoever. Like,

966
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,719
we went somewhere to dinner and the hostess was my

967
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
friend's daughter who knew me. And so we walked into

968
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,440
there was the Bengal Whaling Company when that was open,

969
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,239
and my friend's daughter was there and she's like, oh

970
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,880
my god, hugs, could you like we haven't been somewhere

971
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,079
where somebody doesn't know you. And I go, that's the

972
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,039
benefit of the small town. Like there's lots of not

973
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,599
good stuff, you know, like the weird. Like my wife

974
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:42,119
calls it incestuous. Everybody dated everybody because you only had

975
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,960
a small people date from you know or whatever, and

976
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:48,079
you didn't like think about it, like you making a

977
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:51,199
pass it her doesn't make Joe want to reach across

978
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,760
the table, you know what I mean? Like that we

979
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,480
were all idiots.

980
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't remember that, but I know

981
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:58,840
I was. I was drunk a lot.

982
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: But we went to Pine and Plains Memorial Day Parade

983
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,119
this year this shear, Yeah, just because we thought, well,

984
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,280
we'll drive up and see we get there. You know,

985
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,599
it's like people on the four corners. I literally turn

986
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:16,760
around the four corners, the only four four corners, and

987
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,320
we're trying to find the best place to stand. And

988
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,519
I turn around, Hi, it's john Sorocco. Oh well yeah,

989
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,760
And then across the street, Joe's like, I know those

990
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,320
people want I mean, everyone knows that your mom.

991
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Still lived there.

992
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 5: Oh no, she's been going for a while. She's back back.

993
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,199
Speaker 2: Where she grew up a camp in Canada. Okay, all right,

994
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,320
we were just there last week. We're in Canada, southern Ontario, Okay,

995
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,480
so fairly close to those are like a three hour

996
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,760
ride from here, I think five. Okay at least where

997
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,400
do you live now? Oh so that's a commute back.

998
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:55,679
See fish skills even more developed. There's I mean, you

999
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,239
got a dunkin Donuts? I'm sure, yes, Starbucks was.

1000
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 7: Yeah. Like Joe's dad invented the computer, yes, you know,

1001
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:10,639
dad helped and the poor little rich kids on the

1002
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:14,320
other side of the down the IBM country Club.

1003
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 6: I don't remember there being, says the man who's three

1004
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,719
houses houses?

1005
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rich one. Yeah.

1006
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 7: Well, just because you miser it away doesn't.

1007
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:29,639
Speaker 2: Mean you don't very smart.

1008
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,519
Speaker 7: Right there now, who's there? Yeah?

1009
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,599
Speaker 2: Sometimes I look back and I go, boy, it was

1010
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,199
a charming place to grow up to group it was,

1011
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,840
And then you know, you don't agree. I have opinions, Yeah,

1012
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,719
what are What are your opinions? Because I'm curious because

1013
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:52,039
Pine Plains was like huge compared to Clinton Corners. Where

1014
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,639
we were was so rural and spread out. And by

1015
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:58,719
the way, I still remember the Watsh's phone number. I

1016
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,679
used to call him.

1017
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,599
Speaker 4: Frank six five one seven four. Ye, you were too,

1018
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:04,199
six six five eight three nine.

1019
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: I could go into the high school and go to

1020
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,360
locker nine oh one, and it's ten.

1021
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 4: They changed the lockers.

1022
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: I can't remember that. But why was thirty?

1023
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 6: Because it was a small town and right like, you

1024
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,400
had class sizes that were like ninety kids and there was,

1025
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,440
you know, one English teacher, so everybody got the same

1026
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,239
level of teaching brought to them.

1027
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,119
Speaker 2: And if you were my.

1028
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:33,519
Speaker 5: Grade had zero no, my grade had zero ap.

1029
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,119
Speaker 4: Classes you got A because your mom was a math teacher.

1030
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: Your class, they didn't offer you.

1031
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't remember them having offer AP on.

1032
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,079
Speaker 7: Anything, mister Kimball, not my mom. No, but I know

1033
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,079
I feel like I got shortage somewhere.

1034
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1035
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 7: It was no AP class.

1036
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no AP so it was like I

1037
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,760
went to that allowed in did you pass it? When

1038
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,920
I got passed the class, but.

1039
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 4: I didn't get the credit.

1040
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,079
Speaker 7: Sorry, Joe, go ahead, I'm trying to talk.

1041
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,159
Speaker 6: No, when I got first semester at college, like like

1042
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,079
the kids in my other classes, Yeah, I'm taking math.

1043
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,840
I'm like, you know, first semester junior level math, and

1044
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,239
there're skipped all these other grades and they're taking puck math,

1045
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,800
which was the calculus that the hockey players had to stay.

1046
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Where were you RPI, Yeah, which is a great school.

1047
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was I was ill prepared for that place.

1048
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting because you know one of my boys

1049
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:32,679
was uh, took AP challenged the AP for a class

1050
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,320
he didn't even take and got a four out of

1051
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,000
five just because he had that opportunity and stuff and

1052
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,079
took I mean it was in an AP English class

1053
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,440
where they were reading a book in class and discussing it.

1054
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,800
But you had to read two more books and write

1055
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,119
three papers a paper for each book in one semester

1056
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,119
of high school. And these kids, I mean it was

1057
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,719
a prep school and they went to college. It was

1058
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,960
it was way different, way different. Yeah, and it's all

1059
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,679
about that's like for a prep school. It's all about

1060
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,679
like having a lot of work. There was a tonne

1061
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:58,679
of work, a lot of work and.

1062
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 5: Either either like if it it's easy for you find,

1063
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,679
but you still needed to do the work. You got

1064
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:03,880
how to do the work.

1065
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was in a we were in a

1066
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:08,400
pretty good school district here, you know, one that's always

1067
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,400
in the top of the state. And he was one

1068
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,280
of these guys that they would go, you can hand

1069
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,360
it in late, don't worry about it, Jordan and blah blah.

1070
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,199
And I used to say it was his mom. We

1071
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,079
got to tighten the margins to this guy because he's

1072
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:20,000
got a ton of potential, but he also has me,

1073
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:26,199
and that's going to be and that was always my problem.

1074
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,159
Like do you remember this. I think it was after

1075
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,719
you left. You were because we were junior senior high school,

1076
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,280
so this was sixth grade for me and just to

1077
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:36,760
give you a little insight as to your point of ADHD,

1078
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,840
which I I never really thought about it. I never

1079
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,679
really did your mom My mom is definitely.

1080
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,519
Speaker 4: Eighty h no no what like she never thought maybe

1081
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:49,679
Billy has Swear to God.

1082
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: They were emotionally absente.

1083
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:58,159
Speaker 7: I just dream, yes, but he's got a short run. Yeah,

1084
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,159
I never said, little lady, because somebody stares out the window.

1085
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:05,440
He doesn't really have a good long attention span. Billy

1086
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,719
likes to do lots of stuff code for.

1087
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: Billy likes to talk a lot.

1088
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy talked a lot. Billy.

1089
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 7: Billy found the best job.

1090
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I could. So then I just remember they gave

1091
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:22,159
out the academic awards and Danielle Campanello won an academic

1092
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,119
award for the week, and I went, if she could

1093
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,920
get it, I can definitely get it. So the next

1094
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,039
week I got it because they were also handing out

1095
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:31,519
the Good Citizen Award, and I'm like, anyway, good citizen.

1096
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,519
Once I got it. Once, I just think all I

1097
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,559
needed to do was prove that I could do it.

1098
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,480
That was it, and that was my biggest problem. And

1099
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:43,559
then in school I would be tuned out from basically

1100
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440
the end of September to march, and now I'm like, oh, fuck,

1101
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:48,519
you know what am I gonna do? Now? I think

1102
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,039
I failed the Chemistry regions twice. And one of the

1103
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,679
reasons I failed it twice was I failed it my

1104
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,119
parents went away on vacation. My punishment was that I

1105
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,360
had to buy my plane ticket to meet them and

1106
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:04,000
take the regions again. And I had parties the entire

1107
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:09,119
week my parents, and then I took the regions and

1108
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:13,320
I got a lower grade and my mother grou was

1109
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,840
so mad that I didn't get a READI diploma like

1110
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,239
they were. They were just I mean, my father, I

1111
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,880
don't know how to do it. It doesn't I just.

1112
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,159
Speaker 7: Had I had my forty year reunion and we're going

1113
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,440
through boxes and pictures and I can show you tons

1114
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,119
of pictures and people. I'm like, no one cares if

1115
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:30,840
you had a regions.

1116
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:31,119
Speaker 2: No.

1117
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 7: No, Now, like I have a region's diploma and you know,

1118
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,800
the PPCs diploma, but I don't want to ask you that.

1119
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,599
Speaker 2: No they don't. But I think looking back now, you know,

1120
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:44,199
as an old man, and I start to think to myself,

1121
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,599
those were the things that built self esteem. National honor

1122
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,920
Society was a nice way you feel good about yourself.

1123
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440
You can build on that. And with my son who

1124
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:54,159
was on the spectrum and had an I P and

1125
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,199
now on his own took off, wanted to live in

1126
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,800
New York City. That's his dream. Pushed. I would always say,

1127
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:03,239
I just need to get him a win because even

1128
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,559
the best coaches, we didn't really have those, and pine

1129
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,039
planes would yell at you when you won and not

1130
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,360
when you were losing. Right, it was mister Mallinger was fantastic.

1131
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 7: He was great age but well he got invited to

1132
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,360
her like we the best part of the reunion was

1133
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:19,440
to see old teachers.

1134
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1135
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 7: When when Guy Lounge walked in.

1136
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had big side burns and he grew them back.

1137
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,159
Speaker 7: Because I had thrown out a challenge and I grew

1138
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,559
chat and I said, whoever shows up with sideburns, I'll

1139
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:35,599
buy your drinks all night. Well, so we went at

1140
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:37,679
the and he walks in and he's like, I'm looking

1141
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,880
for you, and he goes he points to him and

1142
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,119
I I had I told these guys I had had

1143
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,079
them on Friday when we came down. I came for

1144
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:48,360
the Friday festivities. I had big white side burns and

1145
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:52,199
my friend Dominica and Brian Cooon and everybody were like,

1146
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,840
they're awesome, and I go, I don't want to offend

1147
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,760
them because I think he's just a great guy. So

1148
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,000
I shaved him off before.

1149
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,679
Speaker 2: How would that be offensive him? Because the lottery is

1150
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,360
the highest form of prey or imitation, excuse his highest

1151
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,119
form of flat.

1152
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 7: Totally regret that I shaved him off because he showed

1153
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:10,800
up and he was like soaper, the mutton chops, the

1154
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,760
big mutton chops.

1155
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,159
Speaker 2: But he was it was like it was a Civil

1156
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:16,519
warrior actor was happening.

1157
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: I had taken pictures of mine before I shaved him off,

1158
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,000
and I go, he goes. I would have never been

1159
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,480
a funder, you know, he goes. I didn't want to

1160
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,199
making funny. I don't puble funny because I'm not a bully.

1161
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,639
Speaker 5: Allegedly, do we really bully?

1162
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,199
Speaker 2: I don't.

1163
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 4: Definitely bullied.

1164
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: How many redhead faced kids you know we're bullies.

1165
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:42,079
Speaker 2: Every single one of them, because.

1166
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you look in movies, it's always the

1167
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:49,800
redheaded freckle kid who's the bully.

1168
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: And you didn't bullyve me.

1169
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 7: You bullied your sister for her, Yes, it's your sister.

1170
00:56:56,039 --> 00:57:00,599
Speaker 2: This is amazing that you're you've stayed friends, I mean

1171
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,840
active friends, right because your son is having No no, no, no, no,

1172
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,559
no no no, I'm not talking about talking about you

1173
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,280
a Lisa and Caroline just in that because you're all

1174
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,719
here to celebrate the fact that you're going to be

1175
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,400
a grandfather in a month. It was a baby shower, right,

1176
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,360
and I think that's I think that's amazing. But I

1177
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,480
think it's amazing that Alisa's gold. Yes, I think that's

1178
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:27,960
really really cool to see you. And no, nobody does,

1179
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:31,079
not even his wife. I was going to see you. No,

1180
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,920
I know, I know that. Let's just say this added bonus.

1181
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:38,519
I mean, I mean that's kind of nice. But but

1182
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,639
I mean and you and Joe and like just that

1183
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,880
history you have and the history you've built, like two beautiful,

1184
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,920
bright kids. Right. Cameron's doing he works for Apple, yes

1185
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,800
see in living in California.

1186
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,599
Speaker 4: He was in California at headquarters.

1187
00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: But he's back. Yeah, didn't like California. He wants to

1188
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,559
go where's headquarters for Apple?

1189
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,239
Speaker 5: Fortina? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, he was out there for

1190
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,639
a little bit. The rotation he had brought him back here.

1191
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, l A is uh here Cooper Tino was probably sorry,

1192
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,000
probably nice. But I went out and interviewed in LA

1193
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:18,400
and I don't like l a man. The traffic was

1194
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,519
so bad. I had a guy who was.

1195
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,599
Speaker 5: Supposed to meet well, because I would always go to

1196
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:22,320
Santa Monica.

1197
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: For what Santa Monica is nice? You're right, it's like

1198
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:29,159
it's Santa Monica. And some of the little offshoots were

1199
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:32,679
almost like small towns Burbank. Burbank was great, right because

1200
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:34,719
it was right there. But once you but you're not

1201
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,760
going to live in Burbank probably and you're gonna have

1202
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,280
to commune.

1203
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 6: And well, my whole thing with like La in California,

1204
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:41,719
like getting back to like like where do we miss

1205
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,039
being in Pine Plains? Was watching like all these movies

1206
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,960
and TV shows, like they're all out in these cool

1207
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:48,599
white skies and you know, out of the beach all

1208
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:50,760
the time. And so that's why I'm like, oh, Santa Monica,

1209
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,400
this is exactly what California is.

1210
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 5: I love it here.

1211
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm moving.

1212
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't look at the house prices.

1213
00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: Because I think a shack is like two million D right.

1214
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,599
I mean I knew somebody who was living up in

1215
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,559
uh not Beverly Hills. What's the one right on the

1216
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,519
well anyway, one of these places and their their place

1217
00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:09,960
was so small and it was two and a half

1218
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,440
million dollars. This is asked.

1219
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 5: Our daughter was in La Fort summer.

1220
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: And she was Shelly.

1221
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:23,599
Speaker 6: It was Hollywood, Hollywood and Librea like Sketchy is under

1222
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:25,800
selling it is but it was like super expensive the

1223
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,559
apartment she was in, this tinty little thing.

1224
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I always was like if I.

1225
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: Was of our daughters, texting me.

1226
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,119
Speaker 5: Okay, well we'll do that after you.

1227
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:35,639
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah yeah.

1228
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,559
Speaker 7: Didn't you know how important we are right there?

1229
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:40,679
Speaker 4: She needs to go to urgent care again again?

1230
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: What you didn't she fall? That was like a really scary,

1231
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,119
scary scary thing because the head is and I don't

1232
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:53,199
I hope I'm not bringing somebody, no, yes, here And

1233
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,920
I remember thinking, I remember the whole story about it,

1234
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,280
and I'm going man, because you know people, I knew

1235
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,199
a guy who fell, well, a comic fell off. Uh,

1236
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,000
stepped off a curb to take a phone call and

1237
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,920
slipped and fell and hit his head and wound have

1238
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,480
been like a rehab for a long time.

1239
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: She she was just it was in Charlotte.

1240
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: She had a layover yeah.

1241
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 4: We we landed in Buffalo and literally the somehow someone

1242
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:21,239
got in contact. Anyway, that was a couple of years ago.

1243
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,199
She's fine, she's good. I mean, she takes they the

1244
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,320
diagnosis was epilepsy, that she had a seizure.

1245
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:38,079
Speaker 2: So really, yeah, okay, any sense any Caesar sense? No, no, no, no, nothing.

1246
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,039
So that's great.

1247
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 4: Then she's out in Boston. She moved up to Boston

1248
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,039
in April.

1249
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,079
Speaker 2: What's she doing there?

1250
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: Living her best life?

1251
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:53,039
Speaker 2: She saved. It's just weird. It's weird because you know, like,

1252
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,400
you remember everybody, how we were when we were together.

1253
01:00:56,679 --> 01:00:59,679
Now to think that you have grown children, you're going

1254
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,800
to be a grandfather, it's weird. It's just weird because

1255
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,360
nobody seems any older than when.

1256
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,559
Speaker 7: That's what came up at the reunion was like when

1257
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:12,239
you run into somebody who you know since your little kid,

1258
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:18,079
like Maddie Salvia, mister Teachers, his son was in my class,

1259
01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:20,519
and he comes in with his wife and he's like,

1260
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:22,719
you can call me Maddie, and I go, no, I can't,

1261
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,559
mister Salvia. You're mister Alan. You're oh yeah, yeah, right,

1262
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:30,760
even when they tell you you can, because and I said,

1263
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,559
I that's the weirdest. It is weird because Michelle Rusick

1264
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,000
was there and her parents came.

1265
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: I remember thinking she was so hot.

1266
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 7: Still looks good.

1267
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: Though she wore the shortest shorts of the track team

1268
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,000
she did. There was always a little cheek hanging out.

1269
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,880
I was there for it. I was right there. We

1270
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,440
would run last. I knew what asked. I was behind

1271
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,800
and I was probably seventh grade then.

1272
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,559
Speaker 7: And she looks great in her parents showed up and

1273
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:02,920
her parents look great. But he's like, you can call

1274
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:06,480
me Mike, and I can't. I can't, You're just mister Us.

1275
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,039
And he's like, no, no, no, it's a weird.

1276
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:09,679
Speaker 2: It is weird.

1277
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 7: And I said, the weird thing is you guys were adults.

1278
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,159
I've known you since I'm five years old.

1279
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: I know, but we're better adults than us. That's what

1280
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,360
I always. I feel like I'm a terrible adult. I

1281
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,039
like I'm a kid, like a kid adult, just different adults.

1282
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,239
Speaker 7: So that's what I told, like mister Salvi, I said,

1283
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:27,280
I go, well you were an adult, you were mister Salvia,

1284
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,719
and I go, we were kids and he's like, well,

1285
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,199
you don't want me to call you mister Walsh. And

1286
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,800
I go, no, but you still look the same to me.

1287
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,360
Its in you missus Salvia couldn't recognize us because she

1288
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,280
knew us as five year old. Yes, you already knew

1289
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,519
you as adults. So when I see you again, you're

1290
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:47,559
still mister Salvia. But I'm now not little Matt Walsh, redhead,

1291
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,519
curly head kid running around with your son. I'm an adult, bald.

1292
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,719
Speaker 2: Guy, Matt Wall psycho running around with.

1293
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 7: And it was just like, I go, so, you guys

1294
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,639
look great, and we all got old, you know what

1295
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:03,840
I mean? Like you guys to me, in my in

1296
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,559
your brain.

1297
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: They look the same, but I think adult, Like that

1298
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:11,639
generation of adults were adults. Like you look back in

1299
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:14,039
the fifties and the sixth they all looked grown up.

1300
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:15,079
Speaker 2: They you know what I mean.

1301
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 7: I just saw the whole movie.

1302
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was Pop trying to

1303
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,679
figure out how old.

1304
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,719
Speaker 7: How old my grandfather was, And we just had a

1305
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,119
whole bunch Joe digitized a whole bunch of home movies.

1306
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,400
And remember my grandfather Pop at our house all the time,

1307
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,519
lived with us at the end, and you look at

1308
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:33,159
him and I'm like, Okay, I'm having my third birthday?

1309
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:35,880
How old was Pop? And you look at him and

1310
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,559
you're like, he looks like he's you know, like seventy

1311
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,079
thirty three. It's like that we did a thing this

1312
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:48,039
you probably noticed, like the Wilfred Brimley factor. Yes, like

1313
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,719
Brimley Coon, Like, yeah, he was forty nine when he

1314
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,519
filmed Coon. And I'm like, I'm fifty eight already, and

1315
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:56,719
I'm like, you know, how could he have looked that

1316
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,400
old at forty nine? And then you look at Paul

1317
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,639
Rudd and Paul Rudd's forty nine, same age. You look

1318
01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:03,960
at a picture of no way impossible.

1319
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: But your mom like, so, I feel like your parents

1320
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,159
were always the grown ups, you know what I mean?

1321
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,880
I mean your parents were more of the to me.

1322
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 7: They were younger.

1323
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: They were the.

1324
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:17,079
Speaker 4: Younger, but they were like they were cool because they

1325
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:21,440
would show up in Halloween costumes wearing me and my shadow.

1326
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: That probably wouldn't fly, probably wouldn't have all. They were cool.

1327
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,079
Fer your dad.

1328
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: Your dad used to sing and being the music teacher,

1329
01:04:32,719 --> 01:04:35,440
your dad used to come over and sing seventy six

1330
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:37,800
trombones when he got drunk aund the house.

1331
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,119
Speaker 2: He would march around with missus latch and he would

1332
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:41,679
get on his knees because it would make him the

1333
01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:44,199
same fight and they would marching around. But I remember

1334
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:47,639
playing the piano for him, I'm sure sure, encouraging him.

1335
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was like a lot of drunking going on back.

1336
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:53,559
Speaker 2: A ton and like this is like they glorified alcohol

1337
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,559
to the point where I just had half house.

1338
01:04:56,719 --> 01:05:00,079
Speaker 7: Somebody she fell off the bo It might have been your.

1339
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: Dad, Yeah, had.

1340
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,719
Speaker 7: All gone on his shoulders and she fell on the

1341
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,880
fell on the juke box and like literally like mester

1342
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:12,239
backup was like laid up from the sharp edges of

1343
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,679
We had a Worlitzer jukebox. I remember the we had

1344
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,039
like we had the basement to.

1345
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:19,559
Speaker 2: Go in the bathroom, take off my under shirt, come

1346
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:21,760
out and do a dance with I had this.

1347
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:25,599
Speaker 4: There was like like one of those you know table

1348
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:26,840
lamps that had us.

1349
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,159
Speaker 2: Yes, it was spotlight and I would follow you. Yeah,

1350
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:31,000
it was a spotlight. We did a whole damn the

1351
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:33,639
whole thing over. I didn't dance. I was a spotlight.

1352
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 7: There was probably musical accompany.

1353
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: I was like anything that I could get attention to

1354
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:39,119
being on stage. It was all good.

1355
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 7: It was all good. Like we had the pinball machine

1356
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,800
and box, and so the parties were always.

1357
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,559
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, it was always over there. I

1358
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:49,239
think we rest our case. I think you lost this

1359
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,840
one on the rich kids stuff. Three in the winter cars,

1360
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:56,960
the summer car, pinball machine, shoe box, the whole thing.

1361
01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:59,079
And you had videos and your dad had a friend

1362
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:01,840
who would copy movies for you guys, but he would

1363
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:07,960
splice in porn. There's something that's not exactly what you mean.

1364
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:13,280
So was it in a friend of your dads, mister Watson.

1365
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 7: Back when you look like you were contacting Jupiter. Yes,

1366
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:21,639
we had no cable. You mentioned he would make VHS

1367
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,760
tapes of mt V.

1368
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:26,039
Speaker 4: Something happened, and I bet you were there. We were

1369
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:28,800
watching something and all of a sudden, like the groove.

1370
01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: Tube came, he.

1371
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:36,239
Speaker 7: Spliced it in. He would record over it and sometimes

1372
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,519
you remember, and he would record us six hours or

1373
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:45,239
whatever you record of MTV. Because we didn't have cable,

1374
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,480
we were like being less, like a third world nation.

1375
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,960
The world was passing us by right north.

1376
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,519
Speaker 2: We got the Losing Teams t shirts.

1377
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,559
Speaker 7: We would get these tapes and we would have patriots.

1378
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,400
Everybody sat in our basement going, this is what.

1379
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: A sudden something happened.

1380
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:05,519
Speaker 2: I remember that tape was like.

1381
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:12,239
Speaker 7: The tape You're like, was that just a naked dude

1382
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,719
running mind at the end of m TV.

1383
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,079
Speaker 2: There are people, Yes, there was, Yeah, there was.

1384
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 7: I remember, I'm gonna go over to walls and watch them.

1385
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 4: I truly thought that memory was like my like I

1386
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,639
was home alone and I discussed it, but maybe you were.

1387
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:32,199
Speaker 2: There with I don't know.

1388
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,239
Speaker 7: It was because we literally had no cable and you

1389
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,679
didn't watch and like.

1390
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,039
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a movie called the Groove

1391
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,039
Groove Tube.

1392
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 7: Is not a porno by the way, like R rated movie.

1393
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: Now, there were some sexies and there was a guy.

1394
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,079
Know what was happening with that tube?

1395
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 7: Which actually had Chevy Chasing.

1396
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it.

1397
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 7: dB a movie and it's like a bunch of skits.

1398
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,400
I didn't know that, but because I recorded it. At

1399
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,280
the end, it's very end. There was a cut sceneor

1400
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,360
it was like the World Olympics of sex. Oh okay,

1401
01:08:05,719 --> 01:08:10,559
Chevy Chase in the movie. I have a very good memory.

1402
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,320
I'm really good at trivia, and they were like commentating

1403
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,039
on her like these German judge just gave him a four,

1404
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,800
you know kind of thing, and you look at it now,

1405
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,720
but like, I'm sure when you guys were watching it,

1406
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,760
it was like you're like, holy smokes. Yeah, yeah, Joe

1407
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:31,880
would record six hours of whatever. No, not this Joe.

1408
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,439
Joe was busy out chopping wood.

1409
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: I remember Caroline called me up. I was in tenth grade.

1410
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,359
She called me up, and she asked me if I

1411
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,239
would go to the prom. Now I had already not

1412
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,199
not not not not with you. You gave me the

1413
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:47,720
choice of three different people who would I go to

1414
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,359
the prom with?

1415
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 7: So she was simping for it, Yes, she was.

1416
01:08:51,079 --> 01:08:54,279
Speaker 2: It was it was Stacey grow and I wound up

1417
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,399
going and I didn't want to go, and I had

1418
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,680
already been asked by Lorie. Alfonso's friends offered me seventy

1419
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,359
five dollars to go with her, to go with Laurie,

1420
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,199
to go with Laurie.

1421
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,319
Speaker 4: To pay you to go.

1422
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:10,520
Speaker 2: They offered me seventy five dollars, and I said no.

1423
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,159
I said no, Well, don't forget that she was Laurie

1424
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:16,800
caw Alfonso, Oh no, and then put the picture in

1425
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:22,640
them anyway, So, uh so bully my father, Yeah, but

1426
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,359
my father found out that you had somehow Again, the

1427
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,039
parents talked and found out that you had asked me,

1428
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:35,920
So he like basically braided me a little bit, and

1429
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:38,359
not in a good way. He said, listen, do you

1430
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,840
know how hard it is for a girl to ask

1431
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:44,000
someone to go to the prom? You absolutely will go.

1432
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,199
You will be a gentleman. You will walk into that

1433
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,399
room like she's the only person in the room, and

1434
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,439
you will. You will do this. And remember we went

1435
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,239
and then was like shop for your dad. Yeah, my

1436
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:55,840
father was. We were rated.

1437
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,319
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I feel like we ended up

1438
01:09:58,319 --> 01:09:59,039
at Stacy's house.

1439
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,119
Speaker 2: We did after the problem, Like we weren't allowed to

1440
01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:05,319
go to anywhere nowhere because because Caroline would walk around,

1441
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:08,239
go where's the because they would say, where's the prom party?

1442
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,600
And Caroline, I remember my mother going some field, some field.

1443
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,920
It's not gonna have it in some field, and I'm.

1444
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,199
Speaker 4: Going I said, we were gonna have the party in

1445
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:18,800
some field?

1446
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everything was in a field of pine.

1447
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,319
Speaker 7: Plant was ten parties in a field are real? Like

1448
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,039
if Hollywood, like were to make an eighties.

1449
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: Movie about our rural yes, not John.

1450
01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:34,039
Speaker 7: Hughes in a big Chicago high school, like you literally

1451
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:36,600
all parked your car and drank from a cag Yes,

1452
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:39,720
And it was one beer or a Matt's beer ball,

1453
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:42,039
not open with a steak night because you didn't have

1454
01:10:42,079 --> 01:10:44,840
a cag and we were like all idiots. And then

1455
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:45,920
we'd all drive around.

1456
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,079
Speaker 2: So because we lived in a rural area. Now, I

1457
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:55,199
snuck out of my house once and ran down just once.

1458
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:58,000
But I remember running down Charbial Drive and worried that

1459
01:10:58,119 --> 01:10:59,560
cars were coming up they were gonna see me, and

1460
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,600
I rememb I put on I was going to meet

1461
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,119
the crush. I had the biggest crush in Tara Oh.

1462
01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:09,479
So it was Tara Oh. Yeah, and Jane Mintayo were

1463
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,600
coming to They were going to meet me and take

1464
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,720
me to a party. And this party was in a field.

1465
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:17,520
And it was end of school because there was regions

1466
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,920
and tests and all this stuff. This was the chemistry.

1467
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,000
When then I failed the first time. So I sneak

1468
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:24,199
out of the house. I run down Charwill. I jump

1469
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:27,760
over not just a rock wall, but a barbed wire fence.

1470
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,600
I'm hiding, and then I'm running. I put your car on,

1471
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,319
now your car and sweat. I have a cloud like

1472
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,039
pig pen. And I get in the car and in

1473
01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:41,560
the back seat was Tom Hart and Mattts. Scotts and

1474
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,640
I remember getting in and they're like all looking at

1475
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,720
me because I had I was just like this mushroom

1476
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,079
cloud of your car. And then we went to the prom,

1477
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,319
so I have not the problem. We would drove out

1478
01:11:50,319 --> 01:11:52,800
to this field, had a party, and then drove all

1479
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,319
the way to the Pleasant Valley Diner and then back.

1480
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,439
And I think I got home, crawled back in the

1481
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,760
window to my bedroom at like five am, six point thirty.

1482
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,359
My mother's banging on the door. You got to get

1483
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,560
up and start studying for that regions. And I remember,

1484
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,199
my why are your eyes so much I've been studying

1485
01:12:08,279 --> 01:12:11,000
all night. Just kill me. I need a break.

1486
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: I remember going to your house maybe it was after

1487
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,319
the prom, and your dad answered the door and he

1488
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:18,479
said something about.

1489
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,239
Speaker 5: Like he's trying to hold his.

1490
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: Toothpicks in his eyes. He thought he was funny, and I.

1491
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 4: Was like, what the hell's wrong? Who holds her eyes open?

1492
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: Why were we at his house? I don't know. I

1493
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,159
think the next morning or something.

1494
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,039
Speaker 4: We had to check in every hour, and like truly

1495
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:40,600
we sat Stacy used to have like a hot touch

1496
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,680
right in like a sun room all night.

1497
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,239
Speaker 2: Long before and we had to call every hour.

1498
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,159
Speaker 4: I had to call every hour still say.

1499
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,079
Speaker 2: So there was still here. Well, then my senior prom.

1500
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,359
I think it was the Osofskis Katosafskis starts to her

1501
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,319
parents that my parents were having the party. So the

1502
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,000
Ososki's call my parents and my mother goes, we're having

1503
01:13:07,039 --> 01:13:09,720
the party and I go what and she's like, I go, no,

1504
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,239
we're not. And she's like yeah. Now I got Tara

1505
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:14,760
to come back and go with me to my senior prom.

1506
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,960
So she's a freshman in college. We all go to

1507
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:21,640
the prom and then we went to the Ryancliff Hotel.

1508
01:13:22,359 --> 01:13:23,399
Speaker 4: Oh, you could get in there.

1509
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time. I used to have Nathan Briggs

1510
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,800
would go in. He would put on a shirt and tie,

1511
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:30,840
go up to the bar and talk about what a

1512
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:35,840
shit day Yet at IBM you get a picture of

1513
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,319
beer and we'd played pool. We were in there all

1514
01:13:38,359 --> 01:13:41,920
the time, drinking it. Like again, miles from where we lived,

1515
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,359
on these dark roads, Like I would go crazy if

1516
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:47,000
my kids were there, and then my parents. So now

1517
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,399
I pull up to my house after that and there's

1518
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,079
all these people. There was somebody's dad standing under the

1519
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,560
basketball who in my driveway drinking beers with the kids,

1520
01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:59,560
like his daughter was a year younger than me. She

1521
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,000
was he was sitting there drinking with everybody my father's

1522
01:14:02,199 --> 01:14:06,319
dumping beers and getting rid of stuff. Todd Yukamb became

1523
01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:09,479
Todd Pukem that night because he was puking everywhere. It

1524
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,119
was like a mess. I remember being so embarrassed. And

1525
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:14,079
then the next day we went to Stissing Lake and

1526
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:15,079
then I got really drunk.

1527
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,079
Speaker 7: I don't think I remember that name. He had an

1528
01:14:22,119 --> 01:14:22,640
older brother.

1529
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, yeahs were talking about all's boys.

1530
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:32,840
Well you went out with chrysal Bruto. Come on, he

1531
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,760
was like two years younger than you. No, he was

1532
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,800
a year younger than me. He was a year behind me.

1533
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,760
Look at that. Look at you robbing the cradle at

1534
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,159
the time pine Planes Robbing the Cradle said, there was

1535
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:51,199
a small, small, small running out and around did Yeah

1536
01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:56,279
you got your closet that never let good job, congratulations. Yeah,

1537
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,199
that was a win. That was a win. That might

1538
01:14:58,279 --> 01:14:59,960
have been the best to come out of Pine playing.

1539
01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:03,520
I'm saying, of all the guys, you know, I like

1540
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,920
to think I had some chance in there, but no,

1541
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,640
Joe had it all. Joe had it all. That was it.

1542
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:15,399
So when you look back and he regrets on going

1543
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,000
to a city versus a country type. I kind of

1544
01:15:18,039 --> 01:15:20,720
like here in Fairport. I like it here because it's

1545
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,239
small town. It's nice, and there's a ton of ship

1546
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:27,680
to do. Now Fairport's getting too big. The practice the

1547
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,000
cannery is just crazy. It's blown up and there's no

1548
01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:32,720
real there's no parking and stuff like that.

1549
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:36,319
Speaker 7: There's a limo, there's a golf cart limits from the parking.

1550
01:15:37,359 --> 01:15:38,680
I was like, waitte, I can give this guy a

1551
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,279
dollar and they'll drive right car.

1552
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: But there was something about growing up and that was

1553
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,119
there was a charm to it. And yet uh sadness.

1554
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:51,960
I feel like because you were so isolated, I don't anywhere.

1555
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 7: No, we're isolated because all your friends were just as isolated.

1556
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,119
Speaker 5: Had I like that.

1557
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 4: I've known Alisa since I was three years old.

1558
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 2: Our kids don't have that, No, they don't, you know

1559
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:02,960
what I mean?

1560
01:16:03,039 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: Like we found a nursery school picture in those videos

1561
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,239
and we're trying to figure out who's who. Yeah, you know,

1562
01:16:08,399 --> 01:16:10,439
like missus Mead remember the Meads?

1563
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. We have stories Martha Sue.

1564
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have stories that go back to then when

1565
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:18,199
she showed up to bring us to nursery school, and

1566
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:20,000
she showed up with the big yellow feather hat.

1567
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like I have this member of a big bird.

1568
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 4: But like very I think like a lot, Like our

1569
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,520
kids don't have friends.

1570
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 7: From four years We just bo talked about that that

1571
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,720
like we went to nursery school. You're you met kids

1572
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,840
at four point or whatever, and we would go to

1573
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,760
nursery school and rich kid okay, just the rich kids.

1574
01:16:47,119 --> 01:16:52,560
We would go. Our limo driver would take us point.

1575
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:57,000
But like and then you saw these kids on Sundays

1576
01:16:57,279 --> 01:17:00,800
at church and Sunday school. So you all these kids

1577
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,479
and you grew up with them from the age of

1578
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,159
five when you started kindergarten toil the age of eighteen.

1579
01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:06,039
Speaker 2: And you didn't just.

1580
01:17:06,079 --> 01:17:09,119
Speaker 7: See them five days a week for school, No, you

1581
01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:12,319
saw them six days minimum and probably also on Saturday

1582
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:13,640
after you rode your bike.

1583
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,520
Speaker 2: To the wreck the wreck or whatever.

1584
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,520
Speaker 7: You saw them every day in the summertime. And my

1585
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,560
kids don't have that. Her kids don't have My.

1586
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: Kids don't have that either. They didn't have it. Yeah,

1587
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,800
there is something that's the thing.

1588
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 7: That's the thing that's like my wife doesn't get She's like,

1589
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,840
I don't know why you want to go see them.

1590
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,119
I like, because I grew up with them. It's like

1591
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:30,479
seeing your brothers and sisters.

1592
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, after forty years, the most formative years of your

1593
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:36,039
life were spent with these people. That's why I think

1594
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:39,520
what you and Joe have is really unique and no,

1595
01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:43,199
what a nice history in that you've known each other.

1596
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 4: I will say through every half those memories like yes,

1597
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,800
because if I had a husband I met in college

1598
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,359
or your college, I couldn't go, oh, don't you remember

1599
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,119
when this happened or that happening book?

1600
01:17:53,119 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

1601
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 7: Like Ann, She's She's like, my wife's like, I don't.

1602
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 4: Even Last night the four of us were sitting around,

1603
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,079
She's like, are you talking about Bye blade stuff again?

1604
01:18:03,079 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 2: Because I'm not.

1605
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk. I don't like that my

1606
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:06,720
wife sounds.

1607
01:18:10,319 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: Does anybody That's how you always made her sound? I

1608
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,520
don't know. It seems like anybody remember the Pine Mall?

1609
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:19,880
Oh yeah, we were just talking about it. It's like

1610
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,560
an arts center.

1611
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, they redid it, but there was remember they

1612
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:24,119
were like cal.

1613
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,159
Speaker 5: Was it the Coons?

1614
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1615
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody like.

1616
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,359
Speaker 2: That ideas is Arcadia, But it was like the older Arcadia, Yeah,

1617
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:34,880
because I remember that was where I had my first

1618
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,319
beer outside my house. It wasn't chocohol. Well, you didn't

1619
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:44,439
know the right right people. Charles McLachlin. I love Charles.

1620
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,039
He was great when they took the Governor off the

1621
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:55,359
golf cart and I worked forty miles an hour about that.

1622
01:18:55,399 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 5: I worked there with them. With those guys, were they

1623
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,560
not the most fun? They were so much fun.

1624
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,359
Speaker 6: I remember I have these vivid memories with Charles and

1625
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,560
like we'd pull up to the gas station after school

1626
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,880
and is he had like a black money car lower

1627
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:07,279
or something.

1628
01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:09,079
Speaker 5: It was like that was a cool car. Yeah, he

1629
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,039
was a beater, but it was really cool. He's like

1630
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,119
pulling out like the forty eight cents.

1631
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah worth of gas. Yeah. It was just like I

1632
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:19,920
remember sticking one of those things that would explode in

1633
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:22,479
his cigarette and he's driving down the road and I'm

1634
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,880
in the car with them, and all of a sudden,

1635
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,600
he goes boom, like one of those poppers. Yeah, but

1636
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,760
you stuck it in a cigarette and blew the tobacco. Yeah,

1637
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,560
cigarette loads and then it blew tobacco over. I thought

1638
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,640
we were gonna die because he's like but I love

1639
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,479
those guys. He was a big, tall guy and he

1640
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,159
had a beer called Old German and he leaned against

1641
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:46,079
the bathroom door so no one could get in because

1642
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:47,560
I think it was a unisex bathroom. I think it

1643
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,600
was one for both, and he leaned against the people

1644
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,680
were bagging. He goes, hang on, we're chugging this beer.

1645
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,880
And then he goes, what do you think, Like, oh,

1646
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,359
it tastes great, tastes like Heineken. I had no idea,

1647
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,159
but that was the thing that was the first beer out,

1648
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:02,760
and I think I was four tea was cool like that.

1649
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 4: It was dark and there was a cheap box, but it's.

1650
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: The closest thing. Like you go New York State, people

1651
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,079
think New York City. You know, then you got Buffalo

1652
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:17,279
even rochesters we grew up in.

1653
01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:21,199
Speaker 7: People are stupefied when I go, well, we grew up

1654
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:25,279
south of Albany. They're like, isn't it all Like I'm like, no,

1655
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,279
it's super rural farm country south of almost to Connecticut,

1656
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,439
skip school, go to bash Bush Fall.

1657
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, like I go, we it was not.

1658
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 7: It was mostly weekenders coming up out of the city

1659
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:45,880
and people whose dads invented the computer for IBM.

1660
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,279
Speaker 2: And then right and my parents were teachers. Your parents

1661
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:49,600
were bankers, right, and then.

1662
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 7: You know, local slash professionals versus rich kids at them.

1663
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 2: Then there were something. Then there was just something. You

1664
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,359
didn't know what they did. You know what the stuff bunks,

1665
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:04,000
you get your quarter of.

1666
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,359
Speaker 7: Wood, cord wood dumped in your driveway.

1667
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean we even had things like my father traded

1668
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,159
a car for a quarter woods. There was like a

1669
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:18,439
bar it was chickens, yeah, and it was it was

1670
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,199
the bombards up the street. And my father kept saying, hey,

1671
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:24,159
you got the car, where's the wood, where's the wood?

1672
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:26,319
And he got so pissed he didn't it was supposed

1673
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:28,840
to be chopped and split. He sent big logs and

1674
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,239
dumped them at the end of the driveway. Yeah, so

1675
01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:34,720
that was like my mother's like, so I remember.

1676
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 4: I remember one time your grass got so high in

1677
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,239
your yard. Someone started mowing it and just sat there.

1678
01:21:45,119 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 7: That was my dad was like, your dad, Bill just

1679
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,640
gave up trying to up to your waist.

1680
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: I think we were away on vacation. We came back

1681
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,479
and it was just done and now you had it

1682
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,239
was like it was like a mullet. We had a

1683
01:21:56,319 --> 01:22:01,039
mullet lawn right party business up run partying near.

1684
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 4: The house and next to your house. You and I

1685
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,479
used to go in the woods and like there were

1686
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,239
like we'd find refrigerators, remember.

1687
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: That, ye, Like I don't know if it was a

1688
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,079
dump no, no, no, no no, that was my dad.

1689
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:18,359
He would just dump ship the they don't he'd dumped

1690
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:20,000
more sh It was a landfill over there. There were

1691
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:24,159
paint cans and because he built the house, we found

1692
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,039
we're going to build the whole house over there.

1693
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 4: I didn't realize.

1694
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my dad dumping everything over there. He

1695
01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:33,960
was Yeah, that was just his way.

1696
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 4: Like I truly thought, like someone must have used this

1697
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,600
as a landfill.

1698
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,079
Speaker 2: Well that he did. He did it as a land But.

1699
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 4: If you went back behind your house through the woods, you'd.

1700
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,520
Speaker 2: Come out on steps set and they had that's for

1701
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,960
the little house on the prairie tree.

1702
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: Because kid same thing with her house. If you went

1703
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,520
through her woods and the morm woods, you'd find that

1704
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,880
big field tree and it looked like that little prairie

1705
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,159
where they opened running.

1706
01:23:01,319 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: I used to love to go back there. There was

1707
01:23:03,039 --> 01:23:05,199
a pond and I used to go fish they're all

1708
01:23:05,279 --> 01:23:07,920
done and catch yeah. Yeah, oh, I didn't ice skate.

1709
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,039
I used to go and fish there a lot. And

1710
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:12,079
I remember trying to skip school once and waving the

1711
01:23:12,119 --> 01:23:14,279
bus on and the garage was just set back, and

1712
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,520
Marge caught me, and she because the bus did a

1713
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,640
loop and they came down. Everybody's laughing at me, and

1714
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,640
she's made me get on the bus and go to school.

1715
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,359
And I was so pissed. It was like I couldn't

1716
01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:26,039
get a I got away with a lot of shit,

1717
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:28,640
like a ton like when I look back, because I go,

1718
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,119
you guys were really all you were good. I mean

1719
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:37,239
I was standing on the hoods of cars, surfing, surfing

1720
01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:39,560
on top of surfing on top of the car, which

1721
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,159
you go, you right, you would die.

1722
01:23:42,039 --> 01:23:44,119
Speaker 4: Did you play Mailbox Mailbox Base?

1723
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: I didn't because I always thought that was mean. And

1724
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,159
your mom's house got hit a lot. Your mailbox got

1725
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,039
hit a lot because people it was your mom and

1726
01:23:50,119 --> 01:23:52,159
they would come through. I didn't like that game. I

1727
01:23:52,239 --> 01:23:54,239
didn't like destruction of property like that game.

1728
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:58,359
Speaker 7: We did the Tommy had a ranchero. Yeah, and we

1729
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,640
did back in the truck. Oh yeah. Maherrow is basically

1730
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,119
the mullet.

1731
01:24:04,119 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 2: Yes, they used to have seats in them.

1732
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 7: Those were the super So we would stand in the

1733
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,680
back of his car holding onto two ropes that went

1734
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,560
down to the tie hooks. And the game was to

1735
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,600
see if you could get someone to fall out, not

1736
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,439
just fall just fall out, fall out of course, and

1737
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,399
you like we did the Rockford file moves because we

1738
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,520
just watched TV. You had nothing else to do. So

1739
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,159
we'd be like, I could do that with her car

1740
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,479
and you would be cold spring road full Jim Rockford

1741
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,039
forty fifty miles an hour and reverse to the floor

1742
01:24:38,079 --> 01:24:38,760
and just cut the weed.

1743
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm just very glad that you could verify all the

1744
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:41,720
stories I've told.

1745
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,359
Speaker 7: Nobody thought about it, like we didn't think I'm probably

1746
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:46,880
gonna die.

1747
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 2: No, I mean, like, well, why we're sending young men

1748
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,279
to war because we.

1749
01:24:52,319 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 7: Like I remember my friend Jim had a truck and

1750
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,560
we were towing a lawnmower in a trailer and I

1751
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,199
would jump out of the back of the trailer, oh

1752
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,239
and then back again like we were stunt men. It

1753
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,600
was not like you didn't think I could probably fall

1754
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:10,319
out die though. The smart idea and luckily there was

1755
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,920
no phones, there was no stuff.

1756
01:25:13,079 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: The worst would have been if you could have recorded

1757
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,800
that stuff, it would because I totally would have done

1758
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,399
it would recorded. Everything would have been bad.

1759
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,399
Speaker 7: So it's all just hearsay and you remember.

1760
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: When yes, and the memory sometimes get sweeters to get older.

1761
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:30,199
Speaker 7: Of course, the fishy caught has always been about so

1762
01:25:30,319 --> 01:25:33,239
the stories. But your stories, I'm going to guess are

1763
01:25:33,359 --> 01:25:36,439
all true because we all can verify. There was like

1764
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,359
we had parties at our house that you know were epic, but.

1765
01:25:40,399 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: They were family parties those but we had parties, parties,

1766
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:44,239
just kidding.

1767
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,279
Speaker 7: My parents were in Virginia, Yes, they came back. They

1768
01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:51,119
came back, and my brother and I had a party

1769
01:25:51,399 --> 01:25:55,079
and we had a gravel driveway. So everybody started the

1770
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:57,800
burnouts in the driveway. Yes, because that way you can

1771
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,079
get the real you just launching rocks, Like there's an

1772
01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:04,920
eighty mile an hour burnout coming out of your driveway,

1773
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:07,800
you know that goes two hundred feet up the road.

1774
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to like to come in on my

1775
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,199
bike and skin because there was that good like oil

1776
01:26:12,279 --> 01:26:12,800
and gravel.

1777
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 7: Right, And so my parents come back and my Dad's like,

1778
01:26:17,399 --> 01:26:20,399
why are there so many burnouts out of our driveway?

1779
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,840
And my brother and I are trying to explain a story.

1780
01:26:23,399 --> 01:26:28,399
We're like, uh, just a clutch problem. You're like, you know,

1781
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:31,319
I mean the stories were and like your parents must

1782
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,920
just go wow, are you bad?

1783
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:38,199
Speaker 2: Lying yes, that there is no way you can you alive?

1784
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:41,199
Speaker 7: Like how bad could it have been because you're all

1785
01:26:41,279 --> 01:26:43,960
still here and I haven't heard any stories of somebody dying,

1786
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,960
but like you're trying to explain away and you think

1787
01:26:47,039 --> 01:26:50,239
you're like, I'm smarter than my dad and you can't be.

1788
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,000
You're just like, no, like you know, we all did it.

1789
01:26:53,159 --> 01:26:56,479
Everyone hammered on a car, did burnouts, all that stuff,

1790
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,079
and you're like, how did you guys?

1791
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:02,239
Speaker 2: Not just well there was a ton that didn't there,

1792
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:05,439
but I mean a ton that didn't survive as.

1793
01:27:05,319 --> 01:27:09,199
Speaker 7: One of the there's always some there's always a sad story.

1794
01:27:09,319 --> 01:27:11,039
Yes there was, and that you know that you hear

1795
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:14,760
of and you're like, like it happened to me, loo

1796
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:15,319
could possibly?

1797
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:18,279
Speaker 2: God? What could go wrong? So well, I'm so happy

1798
01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:20,600
that you guys agreed to come in. Thank you. And

1799
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,279
I'm very glad because some of the stories I tell

1800
01:27:23,279 --> 01:27:26,880
I always think that they sound made up and insane.

1801
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,479
Insane is the right word because who would live in

1802
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,880
this place and how could this all happen? And I

1803
01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:35,239
was a little more adventurous probably than That's what I

1804
01:27:35,359 --> 01:27:36,039
don't like.

1805
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't some of the stories you tell them, Like

1806
01:27:39,079 --> 01:27:41,399
what the hell? Where was I in the sand pit

1807
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:41,840
with Joe?

1808
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were like behind the wreck. Yeah you'd go parking. Yeah,

1809
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,800
you guys were doing it. I was just I don't know, watching.

1810
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 7: The center stage.

1811
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: I was just telling somebody I go man. I mean,

1812
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,720
I remember I tortured her on the bus, but I

1813
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:07,760
just in a playful wafe. Yes, Bill, harass was the worst.

1814
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,239
Speaker 7: Had like an hour for somebody to work on their game.

1815
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the boys was good.

1816
01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 4: Goose us grab parts of our We were all assaulted on.

1817
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I learned what goosing was in fifth grade.

1818
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:22,680
I remember pinching Becky balls.

1819
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 5: But you did it all the time.

1820
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: What I don't think I did.

1821
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 5: We were just saying that all the stories were true.

1822
01:28:36,039 --> 01:28:39,319
Speaker 4: Like Carl Blanketberg would grab your asses were walking by.

1823
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,199
We were all sexually assaulted on.

1824
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 2: When you think about that, I'm just here for an apology. Bill, Well,

1825
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,439
you know what I do owe you that I that

1826
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,159
I think it even out though your mom got me

1827
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:55,960
in a lot of trouble the Fleming household. She was

1828
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,439
always very kind to me, very nice, you know. But

1829
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,399
your mom had such a stern face. You can never

1830
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,319
tell what like if you were in trouble or not

1831
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:06,640
tell me about it, right, I would think she's going

1832
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,199
to be listening to She doesn't my computers.

1833
01:29:10,279 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 5: You need to com that's true, you do.

1834
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 4: Do you remember helping me get a car out of

1835
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,800
my garage? Was him or it was Keith Stanley, but.

1836
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: I think we got you in on that. Yeah, Keith

1837
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,119
lives up here.

1838
01:29:24,199 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 4: Alisa decided to try to drop the stick shift.

1839
01:29:28,079 --> 01:29:32,119
Speaker 2: Oh god, I do remember this. I do remember this,

1840
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,439
and oh god, the grinding, and I remember coming up

1841
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,399
hearing it. I could hear it from I was right

1842
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,039
on the corner of char Will. I could hear it.

1843
01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:44,319
Speaker 5: And there were skid marks on the garage floor.

1844
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:49,359
Speaker 7: Ye, your dad, Joy, Yes, you had the horizon.

1845
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,399
Speaker 4: We had two of them.

1846
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 7: We had like two of them in a row.

1847
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,520
Speaker 2: Like what, I don't know why.

1848
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 4: You just wanted to take it out.

1849
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: She just wanted drive, Yeah, and then forget about it.

1850
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 4: And then it's half out of the garage and I

1851
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,640
couldn't get it back in so I called Keith Stanley

1852
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,079
and you I think yeah.

1853
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: And then there was also the the Hoffins lived down

1854
01:30:12,079 --> 01:30:17,119
the street and Jacky Jack was in my class and

1855
01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:19,840
then they had twin brothers that was in my brother

1856
01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:23,720
Kevin's class, so eight years and they got on the

1857
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,560
bus once and they were in all new stuff. It

1858
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,880
was before Christmas. There were like a new backpacks and

1859
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,560
new stuff and they were like crying. My brother goes, guys,

1860
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,279
nice jacket man, and he go, why are you Dad

1861
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:38,800
got drunk and insisted it was Christmas and made us

1862
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,800
someone off kiss. That was the kind of stuff that

1863
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,199
was going on behind closed doors in our small town.

1864
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,319
Like can you imagine if anybody knew now, you'd have

1865
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,960
like crisis intervention, you'd have somebody that he'd be out

1866
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,880
of the house. That was That was like the normal

1867
01:30:56,359 --> 01:30:58,680
normal stuff. And you know, I see this stuff on

1868
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,239
TikTok like jen x and go yeah. Maybe it was

1869
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:02,600
a whole generation. I don't know it was.

1870
01:31:03,319 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 4: I think it was everywhere in small so.

1871
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 7: Much freedom because your parents weren't around right, so you

1872
01:31:09,159 --> 01:31:10,119
literally would.

1873
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Just be my mother will come up with I don't

1874
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,640
know even where I was, Where was I was, I

1875
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,840
even around. I go, yeah you were, but you just

1876
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:19,520
didn't care.

1877
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 7: And like you would have to have, like we would have.

1878
01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:27,800
Head lts came over because my brother almost burned the

1879
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:28,279
house down.

1880
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,279
Speaker 4: I thought Kevin got caught.

1881
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 7: Ken put a log in. It was too long for

1882
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,640
the wood burning stove, because we're all saving the planet

1883
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,600
by not using oil, and you had the wood burning stove.

1884
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:42,079
Everybody had stow and he rather than get a log

1885
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,880
to fit, I'll just burn this one, left the door,

1886
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,960
left the door with the log out. And when the

1887
01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:50,079
log burned, it never burns and falls in. It burns

1888
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:54,079
and falls out because that side just yeah, a little

1889
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:56,560
bit of a little bit of physics. And sure enough

1890
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,239
the carpets on file and my brother and I are

1891
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:01,600
throwing club soda and shipped the time and put the

1892
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,479
fire out, and the burn is just because it's like

1893
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:09,119
the polyester rugs, it's just like melting like almost like

1894
01:32:09,159 --> 01:32:11,960
a gasoline fire like low like a low.

1895
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: Like you know.

1896
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 7: So we get the thing out and we had to

1897
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,199
have the neighbor over and he like cuts all the

1898
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:22,319
carpet out and puts in a big slate hearth while

1899
01:32:22,359 --> 01:32:27,359
my parents are away. Wow, you kids are all set there.

1900
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember the slate hear I didn't know he did.

1901
01:32:34,119 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 7: The slate heart He was a really crash guy like

1902
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:39,680
he just like we fixed that.

1903
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: He was used to it with son.

1904
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 7: You know one of those I know a guy.

1905
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 2: He was the guy.

1906
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:48,239
Speaker 7: He was the guy who can fix that rug you

1907
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:51,239
lit on fire. You know anything you could break. I

1908
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:52,359
know somebody who kicked the hole.

1909
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,279
Speaker 2: You're going to be a grandfather with the best stories.

1910
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 7: You know.

1911
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,279
Speaker 2: None of them are going to come out. They got

1912
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,840
to eventually, they gotta come out. But have a granddaughter.

1913
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:05,760
Oh do you know you know the general did they

1914
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,119
do a gender reveal and all that?

1915
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 7: No, the gender reveal was I said, I don't need

1916
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:10,159
to know.

1917
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's surprises.

1918
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 7: I grew up. I didn't know what my kids were.

1919
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,600
You just get what yet I did, but you know,

1920
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,119
and you could have but it wasn't very accurate. But

1921
01:33:19,239 --> 01:33:21,720
now they know, yeah they do. They can immediately.

1922
01:33:22,119 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 2: It's like a three D.

1923
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,239
Speaker 7: Yeah. My son was like, uh, it's a girl. Well

1924
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:33,800
that was what four seconds next for the But I

1925
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,439
mean it's good because now you.

1926
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,199
Speaker 2: Know, yes it is, and it gives you a chance

1927
01:33:37,239 --> 01:33:39,159
to prepare and they're.

1928
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,239
Speaker 7: Able to prepare and know what they're what they're getting

1929
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:41,680
in a month.

1930
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: That's that's uh, that's exciting.

1931
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 7: We're excited. We're super excited.

1932
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,399
Speaker 2: I think it's great that everybody came up for it.

1933
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,720
I think that's amazing. I really do. Grandchild right, yeah,

1934
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,119
the next generation. Yeah, are their bets on who's next?

1935
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,359
Who's when the baby? I know when the baby is

1936
01:33:58,359 --> 01:34:00,359
gonna be born. That makes sense. But I'm saying what

1937
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,399
kid is next?

1938
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 7: Well, I would say getting there in April? Okay, all right,

1939
01:34:08,399 --> 01:34:09,520
And that doesn't mean anything.

1940
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: Your nephew is he's drumming, Jesse.

1941
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 7: He just drummed.

1942
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 2: What's the band, Young the Giant, Young the Giant.

1943
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,199
Speaker 7: So he's their drum tech. Yeah, and the drummer got sick.

1944
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,359
Speaker 2: I saw him on the Jumbo. This is amazing, right, So.

1945
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 7: He got to play a full set because he's a

1946
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,600
drum tech and he knows the songs and he's been

1947
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:34,079
playing drums forever. Your grandfather, his grandfather on his mother's

1948
01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:38,159
side was Charlie was the drummer. He's been playing drums forever.

1949
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,680
And they're like, you know the songs well enough to

1950
01:34:41,239 --> 01:34:47,439
that's amazing. Hours hours notice hour two hours. He's like, okay,

1951
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,560
we need you to play tonight, and he got to

1952
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,279
play the whole set. So it's pretty big.

1953
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I think that's very big.

1954
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably coming local. I think in September. Oh here,

1955
01:34:58,279 --> 01:34:59,920
I think Sarah.

1956
01:35:00,079 --> 01:35:02,239
Speaker 2: I think Saratoga is doing something that has a great

1957
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:04,920
lineup this year. So it's that's such a beautiful spot.

1958
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 4: There are they still touring with?

1959
01:35:08,319 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1960
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they start back up.

1961
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,039
Speaker 2: That's it. That's impressive. Look at that. Everybody's doing all that.

1962
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:19,640
It's like that generation did so much better. They had

1963
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,319
cooler ship and they're playing drums. Yeah, your daughter is

1964
01:35:23,319 --> 01:35:25,680
going to be a doctor and a doctorate. Right, Yeah,

1965
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,800
that's great. That's the way I always like. I always

1966
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,119
say I'm the dumbest one of my family. I have

1967
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:31,720
a bachelor's. That's it. Everybody has a master doctor. It's

1968
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,560
Katie's got linguistics and it's crazy all right. For Alica,

1969
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,560
I'm very sorry for all past I am truly sorry.

1970
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:44,560
There's the apology it is. I apologize Caroline for complete

1971
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:48,560
apologize for I don't even remember if I hit on you,

1972
01:35:49,279 --> 01:35:50,720
I'm grabbing butts, I don't remember.

1973
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,039
Speaker 6: Joe.

1974
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:53,560
Speaker 2: I apologize for any mean stuff I said on track,

1975
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,159
and I blame Max because we always played bullshit and

1976
01:35:56,199 --> 01:35:57,920
you let me jump bikes in the driveway when I

1977
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,039
was a kid. Always years important, Yes they are. They

1978
01:36:01,079 --> 01:36:03,840
were the most informative in the best uh. But this

1979
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,960
has been a pleasure. Thank you for verifying all the

1980
01:36:06,039 --> 01:36:08,319
crazy stories. Thanks for having us all right, and we'll

1981
01:36:08,319 --> 01:36:23,399
see everybody tomorrow. We a bick holtil didn't know what

1982
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,319
to do. I find a TV won't rule. A letter

1983
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,279
to you, and this is not a dad, a mom

1984
01:36:29,399 --> 01:36:30,079
in un estate