Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of
the Poker Gough Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. I
am joined by Tim Duckworth, the The Fisherman. I should say,
I mean you you look like you look like you
just got off the boat. Your beer is out of
ef in control, your hair is sticking out the sides
of your hat. You look like the guy who they
brought on to kill Jaws.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I have you have you have you watched?
Speaker 2: Have I watched Jaws?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a human being, of course I have watched Jaws.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're an Australian.
Speaker 2: So iconic movie. Yeah. I'm not shaving.
Speaker 1: A Quint Is a Quint? Is that his name?
Speaker 2: Remember? Now?
Speaker 1: I mean you resemble him right now? For sure?
Speaker 2: I get it. I get Look, I'm not shaving until Christmas,
not cutting my hair until next World Series. I'm I'm
a complete mess. So get used to this look for now.
That's why I'm gonna wear. I had a lot cover
up them craziness.
Speaker 1: Why are you growing your hair out just because? Sam Quinn?
Sam Sam Quint with more of a robust, haggard beard.
Speaker 2: I like that moment. Yeah, I don't take that all right.
Speaker 1: Apologies for any audio issues. I'm remote on headphones only,
so shout out producer Rich Ryan, Who's gonna make me
sound like a beautiful soul a singing angels as we might.
Speaker 2: Jesse McCartney, Jesse McCartney, that's Susan's beautiful sult.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was every word to that song.
Speaker 2: You know how you have you know have there's like
songs that you know every word to and it's embarrassment.
That's my beautiful Saul.
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't have one Jesse McCartney song. People
will let alone know, let alone know an entire song
front to back, but every word. Nevertheless, Tim never disappoints,
of course. All right, On today's episode, it is Tuesday,
October twenty ninth, we're going to talk about Super Higher
leble Plo. We are going to recap that event. We
had a big win by Seth Davies. We'll hit on
the updated standings to the PGT leaderboard. Have to of
course give you guys an update on our little fantasy
contest going between Tim and I, and then I guess
we'll touch on the rest of the PGT because we
are into the home stretch of things, a few events
left in the season before we get into that PGT
Championship event. And then I got a question for you, buddy,
I got a question for you. So I hope you're
on your toes. I hope you're ready to go. Okay,
So yeah, that's what we're gonna do. But of course,
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offer runs out. All right, Super High rollerbrol PLO, which
was presented by Vision gto trainer Seth Davies, is the
champion one point five million in Davies's pockets. He came
back from two big blinds to win it all. If
you can believe it, quite the incredible comeback run for
Seth Davies. He tried to bluff Shaan Winter. It didn't work.
He was knocked all the way down into two big blinds,
but a few double ups later, another big pock go
in his way. Next thing you know, Davies is right
back into the thick of it. He eventually goes into
heads up play against Artem Maximov with the chip lead.
I think it was about two to one at the time,
maybe a little bit holm. Maximov actually starts closing the gap,
but then a set versus top pair on the flop
allowed Davies to extend that chip lead up to more
than three to one, and then from there he never
looked back and shortly finished off Arte Maximoff, who had
a great showing himself second place for nine hundred K.
Seven players did cash in this event from the forty
two entry field SETH Davies first place one point five million,
Arte Maximoff second place, nine hundred K. Sean Winter third place,
six hundred thousand. Jared Blesnik, the defending champion, another very
very deep run in this event, almost defended his title
but ultimately fell in fourth place for four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. Josh Aria fifth place, three hundred and
thirty thousand dollars, Sam Silverall two hundred and fifty K
for a sixth place finish, and then Ben Tolering, fresh
off his twenty five K win he at the end
of the PGTPLO series, follows that up with a seventh
place finish here for one hundred and seventy K. Jeremy Osmas,
the PGT front runner, he bubbled the tournament so didn't
get his twenty sixth cash of the PGT season, but
you know, still prove that you know he has what
it takes to put himself in position to do well
in big tournaments. For Davies, his second Super High Rollerbowl
win in two months time. At the end of August,
he won Super High ROLLERBWL nine over in Cyprus. Tim
was there. He took home just over three point two
million dollars for that, So just over four point seven
million dollars from these two wins for Davies. Just absolutely crushing.
I mean, what are your thoughts on the event? I
know you talked to Davies afterwards, so any takeaways or
actually hold on, let me let's play the Davies interview first, right,
and then I'll get your response. I should I should
do this in correct order. I'm a horrible host. So
first up here is Seth Davies.
Speaker 2: Seth Davises, congratulations, second super High Robleball victory. You also
the third player to win two in the same year,
Justin and Timothy Adams. I want to know for you
which ring is more superior, the no limit hold On
one or this PLO one. They're hard to compare.
Speaker 3: It's kind of apples apples to oranges. It's I think
the PLOS is really cool because there's so many guys
from different from a different world kind of come in here.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: There's so many players are like cash game pros from
Europe especially, so it's cool.
Speaker 2: To have those guys come in here.
Speaker 3: It's like a much different world, so I couldn't say
one's better than the other. I think the no limit
means a little more to me because I've been a
no him a pro for longer and I was really
hunting a big win like that.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I can't can't say no this. Your
two biggest scores have come now in Super High rolla Wall.
You're now twenty third on the Old Time Money List.
For you personally, you know, family man, poker player. Do
you care that much about moving up on this Old
Time Money List?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do. I do.
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, making money
is the primary objective, but something like the All Time Money.
Speaker 2: List, it's it.
Speaker 3: It gives you that specifically, it gives you a lot
of validation for what your career is, right because like
nobody just dumbles into like you know, thirty million in
cases or whatever. Somebody can run hot and win like
a ten million dollars main event or something. So it's
a lot of validation to have the longevity to accumulate
that much in caches.
Speaker 2: So it means a lot to me for sure. We
never really kind of count on you to be in
our PLO events, but you know, you won the twenty
five K in March's PGTPLO series. Now you've won one
hundred k. Are we going to become a PLO specialist?
Put you know, throwing No Limit to the side.
Speaker 3: No Limits my main my main girl there, she's never
gone anywhere but PLO. I was just talking to our ten,
the guy who got second, about this and how PELO
tournaments are becoming more of a you know or pronounced
part of the high stakes schedule nowadays. You know, you
have a bunch of wsops here at Super high Rollable
now as well as like PGT PLO series, So there's
just a lot of PILO.
Speaker 2: Tournaments to play now.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be around playing all these for sure.
Speaker 2: Obviously you're going to spend a lot of time at home,
you know, working on your game, working you know, solvers,
working on No Limit holding. Are you now adding more
PLO to your kind of you know study in preparation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I spent a lot of time studying, studying PLOW.
I there's you know, I just don't have millions I
have you know, literally millions of Hands of No Limit
under my belt, so like I have really good fundamentals
of that game. And PLO I just don't, so I
got a lot of ground to cover up. So fortunately,
one of the good things I've worked for me is
I know how tournaments work and how the values of
chips are kind of fluid throughout the tournament, which.
Speaker 2: Is very important.
Speaker 3: So once I can kind of blend that with better
PLO fundamentals, I'll think I'll be a pretty good weapon
at these PLO tournaments.
Speaker 2: You always, you know, complain to me that we need
more freeze outs and you know you were lucky enough
to parlay one bullet in the satellite do you hundre
kate buying but you know that didn't go too well
and second entry, So I want to know what goes
through your mind when you're considering a re entry in
a tournament, you know, a buying of Vispi versus and
also a field that's you know, relatively small.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so late buy ins are actually better in smaller fields. Basically,
so whenever people have busted from a tournament, there's kind
of dead money. It's you call it dead money, but
it's not dead money. It's not completely dead. But the
idea is basically, when the field is smaller, the fewer
things need to happen for you to one make the
money to to win the tournament. So if you're talking
about a thousand person field, registering late isn't as advantageous
because so many things have to happen.
Speaker 2: So it's much more.
Speaker 3: Valuable to you know, play as many hands as you
can and accumulate chips if.
Speaker 2: You're a winning player.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like mostly gonna be rebuying most of
the time. If I mean that will game select. You know,
if it's a really tough Pilo tournament, I'm not gonna
be in there. But I think those will be rare
at least not to the point that at least tough
to the point where I don't think I'm at least
break even in them. So I'll be rebuying pretty much anytime.
Speaker 2: Two months left in the year, there's a couple of
big series coming out. You know, we've got napt and
win here and then you know we're got Tried and
also you know Paradise, So yep, your approach to your
schedule coming out, what is it? But also like what
is your mind mindset knowing you know, we got this
big win here, we got that big win in Cypress,
we had a Pokemasa's final type. But how you feeling
approaching this two pretty big months of ton poker fi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't ask for a better mindset to be
in with. You know, we're coming into massive stakes at Triton,
at Win and at Bahamas, So just having a great
year underneath me already, let's it really just like lets
you kind of be free and not scared. It's like
confidence and momentum is absolutely a thingk in poker because
it's going to keep you from being tight and scared
of losing, which is kind of disastrous. So being able
to carry that mindset into these gigantic buy INDs is
like a huge, huge boost for me.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So that was mister Davies. I guess a little bit
of a deja vu because you talked to him at
the end of the super high rollerbl win. Yeah, Cyprus.
Now you're talking to him at the end of the
super high Rollable Pelo win here in Vegas. You know,
what are you kind of your thoughts coming out of
the event from Davis?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, yeah, both these two wins for
him two biggest Korea school you know you mentioned three
point two million and one point five million, so he
touched on it, you know, winning two very extremely prestigious events,
you know, high stakes, insanely tough competition for his two
biggest wins, you know, kind of that's a big career
defining moment, you know for him. There obviously talked to
him about all time moneyless and what that means to him,
and you know, it's actually the thing I took most
out of it is that, you know, Seth is just
like he's so calm and so you know, his responses,
he just are so well thought out, you know, and
you've just won one point five million dollars. Even when
I talked to him in August after winning three point two,
both times he had a beer in his hand, but
yet he was his response is so professional, and it's
it's good to see these like good guys that are
on the tour playing all that PGT events breakthrough to
win such you know, such career highlight kind of events.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, a couple of years ago, you know,
much was made of the close calls for Chris Brewer,
you know, just constantly like knocking at the door of big,
big events, but but you know, never really broke through.
You know, Seth Davies I think has kind of a
similar story arc where he's always in there battling in
some of the biggest events in the world. And you know, yeah,
years ago he did win a World Poker Tour title
and he has that, right. But these events that are
around now, you know, the PGT events, the Triton events,
all the high roller stuff that takes place at the
World Series of Poker, you know, they're they're a different
tier now, right, and it's it's not necessarily about these days.
I mean, you can correct me if I'm wrong here
in what I'm thinking, But you get a World Poker
Tour win, for example, you know, you get a WSVY
bracelet and kind of a more common event. You know,
I mean, no disrespect to the events, I'm just gonna
use that phrase, but you know, like a one K,
fifteen hundred, et cetera. You know, those large field MTTs.
That's all well and good, and that's certainly respectable to
be able to navigate through that, but I think there's
more of a tip of the cap. When a player
beats extremely elite, its extremely prestigious competition, and that can
be against thirty players, it can be against fifty players,
it can be against you know, one hundred players, whatever
it may be. But it's more about the level of
competition that is, like what these top guys are striving
to go after now. So getting like one of these
high roller wins at such an elite level. You know,
Davies had it in Super High Rollable in Cyprus. Now
he has it in the hunter K super High roll
level plo here in Vegas. So, you know, I think
those things just kind of going back to what I
was getting at with Chris Brewer. Like Davies has always
been around, He's always been in these events. He just
he hadn't had the close calls that Brewer had, you know,
but he was always there. You know, he just kind
of bombed out early. It just never really worked out
for him. So, you know, everyone was kind of winning
towards Oh, you know, Chris Brewer is just he's getting
so close, He's getting so close, and a lot of
times Brewer is getting screwed by bad beats, just just
very unlucky. And then finally he broke through. You know,
for Davies, it was just like kind of Whin's he
gonna break through? When's he gonna break through, and then
this year boom like just an absolute rocket ship, you know,
propelled by these two victories. So so yeah, it's kind
of been a long time coming for him on the
high stake scene. But I will say kudos to him
for continuing to show up in battle, because I'm sure
it's not easy to constantly show up and basically get
your teeth kicked in or a bow out early or
whatever it may be. And and and specifically in this event,
you know, coming back from from trying a bluff that
didn't work, he gets knocked down to two big blinds,
ultimately is able to spin it back up, put himself
in con contention, and then go on to get the
victory in a game that he admits that isn't his specialty.
You know, Nolan man hold him is his game. He's
he has taken a more serious approach to POO in
probably the last year year and a half, and not
during this PGTPLO series, but the last one. He did
close it out with a win in the twenty five
K finale, and now he goes on to win the
biggest PG or the biggest PLO event in the world.
So good on Seth Davies kind of sort of announcing
himself this year. If you haven't known about Seth Davies,
like here he is. This is his big arrival, and
he sets himself up nicely, you know, going into the
the PGT Championship. You know where he's now in third place,
which unless something ridiculous happens, but it's never gonna happen.
He's locked into making that championships, so we'll see him
battling there and he'll be able to do so in
nolaant Holdham, which is his specialty. So very much looking
forward to seeing what Davies brings for the rest of
the PGT season and then ultimately in that championship. Any
more takeaways on Davies. I have some questions for you,
but don't you know anything else on on Davies specifically, No.
Speaker 2: I mean you guys heard the interview. The one thing
you know I did ask him about was, you know,
kind of what we just discussed No Limit versus PLO,
and it was interesting that he was like, yeah, that's
my bread and butter, know them holding But you see
so many so much PLO now World Series. You see
it to try and obviously the PGT is kind of
all in on PLO right now, and he kind of
sees that as hey, this is another potential value spout
if I can get better. So he is now actively,
you know, working on his PLO game, and it's shown
you got the hundred K title, he's got a twenty
five K title. Now I imagine you get a few
more one hundred thousand hands under the belt, a few
more simulations, he could be one of the best OMAHA
players in the world. You just never know. Yeah, I
know that.
Speaker 1: After he won our colleague MKO Rinkima did a brief
interview with him as well, and you know he he
basically likened PLO to like a big logic puzzle, and
I think that that really tracks a lot, you know,
Like I every time I'm in the booth with a
Jane Andes or hearing Alex Livingston on the Super High
Rollble PLO commentary, you know, it does feel like a
lot of the PLO stuff, the strategy stuff makes sense
if you just take some time and like think it
all through. And I think that you see a lot
of lines taken from the best players in the world
that really do make a lot of sense. Whereas nolamn
hold them. You know, I feel like on one side
it's it's robotic, but then also like, I don't know,
at times, it feels a little less logical to me,
maybe a little bit more artistic, I would say, because.
Speaker 4: You do have to.
Speaker 1: I think some of the best players in the world
mirror theory and exploit, you know, kind of all on one.
So anyway, but hey, listen, good on Seth Davies, and
I think that overall, you know, I think there's probably
a lot of money to be made in PLO if
you can get good, I would say, in the next
three to six months, if you can like really lock
in your your PLO game. Just because the rise of
PLO in general, I think a lot of people are
looking to play it both in a cash game setting
and in a tournament setting. I think a tournament setting
can be a little bit more controllable. On the variant side,
I mean cash games, it feels like guys are just
going to like almost play anything and just kind of
gamble it up and get their money in. At least
from a lot of what I talked to my friends
who play a lot of high stakes to PLO cash.
But then on the tournament side, it feels a little
bit more controlled. If you're a very good player and
if you know what you're doing, you can really take
advantage of things and really find some good spots. So
if you have an interest in that sort of thing,
I would highly encourage you to jump in, because it
does feel like the time is now. This year's Super
High Rollable PLO had forty two entries. Last year was
thirty six. How do you feel about the turnout, mister
commission excellent.
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, I just wanted thirty nine.
I just wanted to beat Lossius. So we did that.
We did that pretty pretty comfortably, did that on day
one before even actually we tied it on day one. Sorry,
it could have been more. You know, That's kind of
what I'm gonna say on that. I feel there was
a few Well who was missing? I mean that's not
going first.
Speaker 1: The first name that sticks out in my head that
was missing Sean Deep No not, he didn't play it
last year. I know Ben Lamb, well, he's like mister PLO.
Did he He must have had something else going.
Speaker 2: Did you not see his Instagram all week? He's playing
some round of golf with every day of the PLO tournament.
Speaker 1: So that makes sense. I mean, obviously, you know I
and I want to say that I thought I heard
him say that, like he had something scheduled then. And
Ben's a massive golfer and you know he takes that
extremely seriously and he's had a lot of like incredible
life experiences from that, like he he got to golf
with Tiger Woods because it's something that he won or whatever.
So so yeah, I mean, I don't I don't blame
him for asking it up to do that, but it was,
you know, I was like, you know, walking through the room, like, hey,
where's Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ben Lamb was a big one. Dylan Lindy was another one.
He had a trip pre planned, so that kind of
we lost him. Uh, And they were obviously playing the
entire PGT PLO series. Another person, Latara Guerrera, who played
the entire PLO series, thought he might stick around. He didn't.
He went back home, obviously as a little newborn baby,
and home some players that I thought we're going to
play that didn't. I thought maybe maybe we could have
seen a Chance Corneth or a Shande, but they were,
like I was hoping.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Chance corner and speaking of seeing things on Instagram,
I don't know if you follow I think it's Eric
Hawkman and this guy out of Denver, but yeah, all
I know is Chance was in the Instagram. He's like
a fitness influencer, like a big like fitness influencer. I
should get his name correctly before. I sure it was Chance,
Eric Hinman, Yeah for sure, because even Eric said something
along the lines of like we should have bet, like
I wasn't gonna bet on today's workout or something like that,
and then he tagged Chance.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay, Eric Haman.
Speaker 1: Three hundred and ten thousand followers, five time iron Man,
like I believe he lives in Denver and has this
crazy like backyard with sauna, cold plunges like all this different. Yeah,
I mean you would, you would, you would love this guy, okay,
with your newfound fitness enthusiasm. Just the Chance Corners was
in the Instagram and I was like, hold on happening.
Speaker 2: I guess another guy we saw. He was the first
person we saw Sweet Lou Sweet Lou Gozi.
Speaker 1: I saw him there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he didn't not He's all over the place.
And then I'm.
Speaker 1: Surprised that we didn't get a Jason Mercyer just you know,
I know he doesn't travel a lot from Worker, but
I thought, you know, maybe a one off, like a
one off hundred k poo Jason would make the trip out,
especially when you you adjusted the schedule to allow for
that day to registration. Maybe you come in for you
know that that that just that second day, Yeah, come
in with the thirty big blinds and go from there exactly.
Speaker 2: And then I guess we've got to look at some
of the re entrants at dinner re enter. Richard Greicho,
he was one of the first casualties. I thought he
might be a day two re entrance, saying with Bryce Jockey,
both too early eliminations. And then we look at the
two local guys, you know, Jesse Lonas, Alex Foxen. Alex
had multiple bullets listed on you know, poker steak, so
that kind of assumed he was going to be put
up the re entry. He busted, you know, last ten
minutes of day two of day one, sorry, and same
with Jesse big plo player obviously a lot of success
in the I think it was the fifty k he
won at the World Series. But they were two kind
of people I thought would definitely re enter and dinn't.
So maybe we kind of ran bad. Maybe we should
have had forty four forty five total entrance. But you
know what, forty two is a great number for one
hundred k, especially when there is another one hundred k
PLO in about a month's time down in Bahamas.
Speaker 1: Where was mister Phil Galfon? You know, I heard he
was supposed to be playing. I heard he was going
to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's another that mister. You know,
these guys they just they just fake PLO people. Yeah,
maybe he's washed up, just can't hack it anymore, but no,
I don't know. Obviously, very busy with you know, Rona
wants and vision gto trainers, so you know poker is
taking a back seat for him and other players like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, overall, I thought the turnout was good.
I said forty six was my number, So it fell
a little bit short.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I thought we might get a couple of those names
that we just talked about that pop in there. You know,
I definitely I thought sweet Luke Garza was a possibility
going in, and then we saw him and I was
like Okay, he's for sure gonna be in there. I
heard Tom Dwan walk by the studio he's he's when
when it.
Speaker 4: Was happening, and asked, what's going on or something? What's
happening with what's going on in there? I mean he
was sure it was Tom, though, I mean I heard
it was. I don't have any reason to doubt who
said that?
Speaker 2: Remco Okay, yeah, I mean it could have if it
was one of the production guys. Maybe they didn't know,
they didn't notice him.
Speaker 1: He said to Liz the production person.
Speaker 2: Stage manager stage manager.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I forgot our title, said like, hey, Liz, what's
going on in there? Because she obviously does the stage
managing stuff for like all the big cash games that
he plays on at times, right, So that seems like
he would know what's going on. So yeah, so I
just thought that that was interesting. I don't know what
we gotta do. I don't know who I got to
sell my left arm too or something to get Ivy
in the damn studio for these tournaments.
Speaker 2: He was too busy playing five ten no women hold
him at the win with Joey Ingram and Brad Owen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Antonius, I would love to see him in
there too.
Speaker 2: I'll never get him. Why not taxes?
Speaker 1: But they play cash?
Speaker 2: There's no taxes on cash games?
Speaker 1: Are there no taxes on cash games?
Speaker 2: Well, Ari doesn't tax cash games.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're on a televised cash game. Patrick played
on a televised cash game before.
Speaker 2: I don't think that matters.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I'm just saying he's played on televised
cash games before. Any notable feedback from the players about
this event.
Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing really specific, to be honest. You know, we're
already were talking about you know, when when is it
on again? That's all like, you know, you weren't there.
This is you're already kind of taken off on your
little holiday. And they were all sitting I think literally
all the Finish guys and then marn Dam and Grifford
proog Jones were all sitting around the table that's directly
in front of our desk, and they all borrowed like
four different iPads from the ARIA crew so they could
watch it, even though they said they wanted to watch
it on stream while also standing there watching. And I
thought it was a good opportunity to present the next
PLO series, you know, pending schedule, like, hey, these are
the dates we're looking at. This is the schedule. Gave
them the thing. I printed off one flyer and I
gave it to Yonie. Okay, there's like ten of these
guys sitting around the table. I give it to Yeanie.
He starts looking at it and then like elis like
what's that? And they all start going what's that? What's that?
And then they all stand behind Yearnie to look at this,
this temporary schedule. They're all like into it. They're like, oh,
this looks good. This looks good. And then the first
question was are you going to do this one hundred
a k next year? And I was like, yeah, of
course no, and they go no, no, in March, can
we have two a year? I was like, you guys,
are you guys are signal?
Speaker 1: We saw what happened with the mixed games. When the
players push for something. Yeah, listen the players and put
all players out there. I love you, guys, but oftentimes
you don't know what is best for you, okay, and
you think you do and then at backfires.
Speaker 2: Okay, So just if any play pool that could support
two hundred k's, it's these European Sikos from Finland.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, sure, but I mean yeah, but that group
specifically will yes, but like you know, we we did
see some people that didn't show off that you know what,
would probably will tell you otherwise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So this event is for sure on next year, it
sounds like, but the same same time slot back half
of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Personally, you know how I feel all the super higher
rollables should be looped together. We should make a series
out of it at the studio in Vegas, not in Cyprus.
That's what I would do. So that's my uh, that's
my contribution to the UH, to the feedback ben Market Town.
It's it's been you should permission put it to the
top because it's coming from me.
Speaker 2: Okay, extra credit, got it extra weight to the Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So Davies I mentioned is up to third now on
the PGT leader board to eighteen hundred and fifty five points.
He has nine cashes, three victories, so he's firmly in
the top forty where he's going to qualify by the
end of the year for that PGT Championship million dollar
free roll. Jeremy Osmas is still up on top. We
mentioned him earlier as he was the bubble boy for
Super High Rollable PLO. Osmas is still on top with
his twenty seven hundred and eighty nine points, twenty five
cashes and one win. Finally got that win during the
PGT PLO series. Tim and I talked about that on
the last episode of the podcast.
Speaker 2: What do you got for?
Speaker 1: You know, noteworthy positions on the leaderboard? I think Aria
moved up, solverll moved up, Winter moved up. How are
things shaping out as a result of Super High Rollable PLO?
Speaker 2: I think the two interesting ones to me personally, of
the two finish guys that only play on Maha, you know,
Samoui Sapilia and Elias Passinian. They're now in the top
forty and when you take into account the eligibility, they're
kind of pretty high up there. So they're not going
to have any chances to add any more points. You know,
they've kind of made it pretty clear they won't be
playing any of the hold them So will they hold on?
You know, will they make the trip just for one event?
You know, a free roll? You know, that's kind of
interesting me. You see a lot of you saw a
lot of people kind of move up within striking distance
of the top forty, you know, such as Matt Wantman.
You know, you know Ronald Kaiser that's moved up to
fifty fifth place. You know, Nacho Ribero fifty seven, Briceki
fifty eighth. You got these people moving up. Now we
have twelve events left. Are we going to see? You know,
I'm pretty confident we're going to see Matt Wantman playing
some events. But you know, those those guys just on
that fringe, like Nacho, We're going to see Nacho again.
We're going to see Bryce. We're going to see you know,
Ronald is he going to get his way down to Texas?
Because we know he's going to try and so they're
the kind of ones I'm more interested about, like not
as much the no limit hold them guys to see
kind of who's going to try and make that push
to qualify.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's going to be interesting, you know,
especially with all these guys who don't have the three
cashes yet. You know, if depending on what they do,
if they ultimately find a third cash to qualify.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's only three people who I'm like,
there's ten people that are in the top forty that
don't have that are not eligible yet they need more cashes.
There's three that I'm confident we're going to see. Jonathan
to Mayo. I think he's going to be playing the
Texas events. If not, if he doesn't get anything there,
he's going to play Last Chance because he's just so
high on that leaderboard. He's six right now. Jordan Griff,
you know, messaging me, made his way out for the
first few events of the PLO series. Obviously, doesn't you
know he lives in Chicago. I expect we'll see him.
Maybe we see him a Champions Club for Texas the
PELO roundup, or we may see him for Last Chance
and he needs one more cash then two hold him.
Predominan guys Brian Kim and Matthew Lambresh. We saw Matthew
play every Pokemaster's event, couldn't get that third cash. Assuming
we'll see him at Last Chance. Brian Kim your friend
texting you about certain events. I'm sure we'll see him
at Last Chance. If not, maybe even napt but definitely
last Chance. So they're the four. I'm kind of watching
the other guys. You know that they're not really kind
of we haven't really heard much from them, seen them anywhere,
so I feel like they're not even going to make
an attempt to get that second or third cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicholas Austev aka Leena nine hundred has two cashes.
He's currently in eighteenth place points wise, but he still
needs that third cash. I would guess we don't see him.
I mean, I just don't envision him traveling to the
States to chase one cash. Yeah, but who knows. Maybe,
you know, I've seen some crazier things. Of course, Jason
Segel Andres Gonzales and Malo Latinwall each have one. I
would guess they're not going to be chasing it. I
would have thought, you know, having only one cash and
needing to you know, we would have heard from them already, right, So,
I mean Segel is what is the American He's American writer,
Canadian one one of the other. I mean, he's obviously
close enough that he could travel here. You know, he
could have been here for Masters, et cetera. And then
you know, I'm just unaware of Gonzalez and Lats and Wall,
you know, in terms of what they'll be doing if
they're going to try and push for it and whatnot.
Eli Nakash, I guess I'm a little bit surprised we
didn't see him for PLO, So knowing that and he's
the PLO guy, then I'm guessing we don't see him
at all. I agree with you on Lamb Breck, I
agree with you on Kim, I agree with you on Griff,
and I also agree with you on Tomorrow. You know,
I think Tomorrow will probably ultimately get that cash at
the Texas PLO Round Up Series. So see, I mean
it's it's a tight race to get into the top forty.
It's interesting to see how it all shakes out right outside.
You mentioned him already forty second play with Matthew Wantman.
You know, I'm surprised being and see him in the
hundred K, you know, because he was coming off a
series win. He was the series champion of the PGTPO series,
so I thought he would have parlayed some of those
winnings into that event, even if he doesn't want to
take all of himself in one hundred K. I totally
get it. But you're coming off such success, you're hot
as heck, you sell some action, right, you can easily
get in there of course Steven Chidwick's been going through
a move. He's someone who would have been in there,
you know, as he was last year. So so yeah,
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I mentioned it a little bit earlier because thanks to
our sponsor Poker Stars napt Las Vegas. We have an
APT Las Vegas coming up in November one through tenth
at Resorts World. It includes two PGT qualifying events. So
November four through six we have the twenty five thousand
dollars Super high Roller, and then November eighth through tenth
we have the ten thousand, three hundred dollars High Roller.
Do you have any thoughts on what to expect from this.
I'm guessing we're gonna see kind of like all the
similar PGT no limit guys that we saw for like
the Poker Masters probably play this.
Speaker 2: I guess the first thing, are people going to go
to try and or stay home or not home but
come to Vegas instead. We see a lot of our
guys traveling right now. I feel like they've been traveling
and then they're coming back for this. You look at
poker Stike, you see they've got action listed. I think
we're going to get pretty big numbers in both the
twenty five k and the ten K high roll or
events at NAPT It's just a question of are we
going to get some international guys. Are we going to
get some package win as gold past winners. Are we
going to get some people taking shots, you know, like
the people that normally only play three k's, et cetera.
Are they going to, you know, take a shot in
the ten k or take a shot in a twenty
five K. I think that's gonna kind of see how
the numbers gure. But yeah, I don't I say it
being pretty successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking guys like Shannon Shore, Sam Laskowitz,
you know, probably be in there. You know, I wouldn't
predict that those guys go to Triton. I believe I
heard Jeremy Osmas and Nick Shulman talking, maybe not to
each other, but at times saying that they're both not
going to Triton this time around. So I would guess
that they're going to be in these events. You mentioned
the listings on poker steak dot com. I see Cherish Andrews,
who just won an event at the win for around
one hundred and eighty K. Brock Wilson. Her boyfriend got third.
They were part of a three way deal. She's got
action listed for these two PGT events. Victoria Liftschitz has
action listed for these two events. Stephen Song has action
listed for these two events. David Coleman that's a good one.
You know, he might have been someone I might have said,
there's a good chance he maybe heads over to Triton,
but does not look like it because he has action
listed to the twenty five K. Brock Wilson, who I
just met, he's got action listed to that twenty five
k as well. Around Zobian he's got action listed. Oh,
Donnie Peters, Oh he doesn't have action listed to the
twenty five K. Maybe I should list the action to
the twenty five one. You never know, you never know, right,
But I do have action listed to the fifty three
hundred dollars NAPT main event. Who else we got Jonathan
Little action listed? So yeah, I mean there's a lot
of a lot of players who have action listed to
these events. Keywin also has action listed on there, So yeah,
Pope resteake dot com if you want to pick up
some of those actions. But it is able to give
Tim and I an idea of who's going to play.
So it sounds like those are going to be some
pretty good events. I know the players have been, you know,
asking us what counts for the PGT, what doesn't count
for the PGT? Coming up for the Remainder of the season.
I think a lot of them, especially the Vegas based guys,
are happy that these two napt events do count. So
it does allow them some opportunities to get some points
and hopefully push toward or get into the top forty.
So that's what's coming up immediately again. ANAPT Las Vegas
does run November one through tenth. These two events specifically
twenty five K Super high Roller November fourth through sixth
and the ten thousand and three hundred dollars high Roller
of November eighth through tenth. Not sure if they're going
to be streaming them. I know they streamed some of
the stuff last year in addition to the main event,
of course, so I guess TBD on that, but if
they do, it'll be available on the various Poker Stars channels.
After that, the PGT heads on down to Texas the
lone Star stage for the Texas PLO Roundup. We're back
to PLO Baby November sixteenth through twenty fifth. That series
includes four PGT qualifying events. Of course, the headliner is,
as far as I can tell, the biggest guarantee for
a potlam in Omaha tournament ever, the thirty three hundred
dollars main event comes with a million dollars guarante. I
think I heard Alex Livingston say that he's going.
Speaker 2: He is going there you go.
Speaker 1: So he was on the broadcast alongside Rimko rinkim on
Brent Hanks for the Super High rollerble pl great stuff
by the way. From Alex Livingston, he said he's going
to be heading on down to Champions Club in Texas.
Speaker 2: You know who else is going?
Speaker 1: Who's that?
Speaker 2: My waive of why I pick up?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I forgot to talk talk about this, Adam Hendricks. I
skipped this, by the way. We can talk about it
right after we get into these these events. Because I'm
an idiot. It's my fault. I mean, I have it
right here on the rundown. I don't know what I'm doing.
Adam Hendris will be there, Yes, I know. We touched
on Jonathan Tomayo. He does live in the Houston area,
so he'll be heading on over there. I mean, I'm
guessing these are going to be great, great stops. Who
else do we get a Sean Deep? Do we get
a Josh are you I know they went last time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know?
Speaker 1: Actually possibly, do we get a Jeremy Osmas.
Speaker 2: No, he told me he wasn't going. He has a
like family. Something planned, got it. So I ducked him
five hundred points on the leaderboard and.
Speaker 1: He's still in first place. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: But now it's close enough where he might have to come.
Speaker 1: You don't need to dark of a few more. He
wants to. He wants to feel the pressure. Not only
does that thirty three hundred dollars main events count towards
the PGT, but there are three fifty po high rollers.
What are the details that we need to know about this, sir,
other than the food that everyone talks.
Speaker 2: Oh, wait to some steaks. I'm going to be there.
I'm going. I'm going extra early so i can have
extra steaks. But the three high rollers different to last year.
These are all one day events. They start a little
later in the evening. They'll you know, finish two three am.
We had pretty good numbers for the plow high rollers
at the last one. The first five k we did
at one hundred and five entrants. That was won by
Bradley Rubin for one hundred and fifteen k. He did
a chop heads up. Second one we had thirty eight entrants,
one by local legend. David cannot pronounce his name as
we're a love Mazar love. Either way, he had a
pretty amazing series down there, cashing five times so in
PGT events. So yeah, that's the biggest change. They're all
one day events, three of them. They're all five k's.
Gives players an opportunity on the later stages of the
day one flights and then day two to play a
high roller, pick up some extra PGT points, and make
a push to qualify for the PGG Championship if they
haven't already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everyone talks about champions Club being absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: We're going to get you down there for the next
Texas Poker Open in some capacity.
Speaker 1: I want to start taking a poker trip every single year.
Speaker 2: Texas it is. I see.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though about Texas. It needs to be
a family friendly location. Why because I think I would
bring the family.
Speaker 2: No, that's the terrible decision. And they like, for.
Speaker 1: Example, Seminal hard Rock would be great because I could
be like, wifey, go do your thing. You're in South Florida,
you can go to the beach, you can do whatever,
blah blah blah. You know, take the kids. All that
sort of stuff, and then I can just go play
the poker, right, I mean not not, I mean maybe
that can happen in Houston.
Speaker 2: I'm not that You're right. It's not the best family
friendly location. It's a very much a location.
Speaker 1: But hey, maybe maybe now that said, maybe the fact
that we have a partnership with Champions CUB allows me
to skip that part because the reason why I'm mainly
doing that is that it helps me justify the financial
cost of going there, like in just paying a flight
in a hotel to go play a poke German, because
that's essentially more rake if your.
Speaker 2: Business expense were talking about it's a business trip.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not my business.
Speaker 2: No, we'll send up some meetings, We'll set us some means.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we can do that. Maybe, you know, if
if they hooked us up with some good rooms and Champions,
then I'm in right, you know, so so yeah, so
I would love to get on down there. Of course,
I hear it's incredible, and you know, I'm I'm not
willing to go for for PLO because I just think
that I'll be dead money. Even though I hear some
of the stuff about these PLO things and I'd probably
be a favorite in some of these fields because it
sounds it sounds insane. But yeah, for the for the
Texas hold them, for the hold them stuff. You know,
I definitely want to get down there, so hopefully I'll
be able to do that. Then it's, uh, you know,
kind of some downtime. What five or six weeks without
PGT events? Bummer? I hate it, Commission, I hate it. Sorry,
you know how I feel. PGT events every single month
is my stance. I also put that in the feedback box.
You can put that. But we do have PGT Last Chance,
the popular PGT Last Chance coming up January second through eighth.
I know we're going to get the news out to
the is this week about this, so there's there's a
chance maybe you're hearing it on this episode for the
first time. But but yeah, what have you got cooked
up for this series? I know the players last year,
I think they loved it from everything that I can tell.
So you're running it back? What's it going to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had great numbers last year, pretty much averaged
HI eighties early low nineties for all these Turbo ten ks,
they're all one day events. Last year we're streaming late
at night. We're going to change that event. Start at
one pm, playdown on the final table, come back twelve
o'clock the next day. We're going to stream that on
poker Goo six events. Like I said, all ten thousand
dollars buy ins. Key here is that this is obviously
the last chance to qualify for the million dollar free roll.
But if you don't qualify, if you don't make that
top forty eligible list, we're giving away three dream seats
to those highest ranked players that don't qualify. So last
year it was Sam Lasquitz and the Stefano won two
dream seats, one each. This year we're opping it. We're
going to three dream seats, give players more of a
chance to sneak in, giving them more value to come.
So like, hey, if you're a Brian Kimman need one cash,
you don't, you know, this year opportunity to get it.
If you're player that's never played one of our events,
you can still get any by topping the leaderboard. So
it's a pretty good incentive for the for the players,
rewarding the players that have played our events but you know,
haven't got enough points, and also giving you know, a
new a newcomer, the chance to qualify for the free roll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's just great stuff, you know,
I know, I know the players really liked it. They
were obviously out there battling a ton. I'll never forget
some coffee Sidney at the bar, Yeah, sweating that that
entry as the fortieth place person, but he ultimately fell short.
So hopefully we'll get some fun sweats like that again.
The fact that we are going to be streaming it
right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that just makes
it more fun, you know, being able to talk about
it on the streams, really sweat it out, see how
it's all gonna play down. And then even you know,
for those like you said that are in the top forty,
the points count for more chips, so there's incentive to
get in there in battle. Also maybe a little bit
of a warm up before you do head into that
PGT Championship million dollar free role. So that's everything that's
happening on the PGD. Of course, PGT dot Com is
where you can find all things related to the Poker
vro Tour articles, you know, news, winter stories, recaps, all
that sort of stuff. You got the schedule, you have
the leaderboard. You have live reporting when it's happening. So
PGT dot com. All right, I skipped it earlier, got
a recap quickly the state of our little fantasy competition
right now. So after the PGTPLO series, you had drafted Jousamot.
He had no cash, so he was eligible for you
to drop him. You did, so you picked up Adam Hendrix.
You also banked on a what was it fifth place finish?
Fourth place finish from fifth place finish?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you updated the stats then.
Speaker 1: No, No, I did on I did on here. You
only you only picked up a little bit of stuff.
Or wait, maybe I did.
Speaker 2: Wait you I don't think you did. I definitely have
one more cash, right.
Speaker 1: You should have sixteen cashes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have moved.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I one thousand percent did it on here, and
I don't know why I didn't save it because I
also did it on my little spreadsheet that I have
on the side that tells me where everything stands. So
I don't know why that didn't take could be because
I was.
Speaker 2: On sright, I'm going to I'm going to come back
and win all of these anyway, So that's fine, that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 1: You have sixteen cashes, but the points are right, So
points are I still have the twelve hundred and seventy five.
Tim has one and twenty five. Okay, so your two
hundred and fifty points behind easy. But you know, obviously
a lot of big stuff happening coming up wins. It's
still two to one in favor of you. You got
to win from Jeremy Osmas and a win from Dylan
Wiseman during the PGTPO series. I got the only win
that I have from Daniel Legrono, and then cash is. Yes,
you did earn an extra one to get up to sixteen,
but I'm still in the lead with twenty one. Now
I might be shit out of luck going forward. I
have no idea how many of my guys are going
to Texas. I'm pretty sure a few of them aren't
going to Texas. So I think you're probably in a
better position when it comes to Texas than I am.
Just as a reminder, I have Elis Barson and Daniel
Legann and Bryce Jockey, Alex FX and Sean Troja, Jesse Lawrenson,
Nick Schulman on my team. You have Jeremy Osmus, josh Aria,
Jim Callaby, Dylan Wiseman, Ron Kaiser, You had Jousamal, you
took him off and you put in Adam Hendricks, and
then you also have Alan Lee. So I think you're
probably a favorite to get more volume out of Texas,
although if Ozma says he's not going, then I think
it might be closer to even.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still like your spot. You have Fox
and Lonus and Shulman for the for the n apt
and that's that's a pretty strong threesome, right thing.
Speaker 1: The fox are going to Tryton. I know Kristen Foxon
has action listed for Triton on Poker Steak. Yes, I
did say that, So I'm guessing they're going together, would
be my guest.
Speaker 2: So maybe you got to You gotta hope she doesn't
sell enough then they may stay.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know she didn't. She just went
another bracelet the other day.
Speaker 2: Yeah excited. Hey, Yeah, So they.
Speaker 1: Probably don't need to sell the action. They're probably just
doing it for brand building. I'm not really gonna sit
sit here and say that, you know, the Foxes need
to sell money or to sell action. Yeah, that's the
status of things.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I like your side at the PGT Texas Poker Texas
PLO round Up. I should say I'm banking on h
I'm banking on one person. That's Sean Troja. I have
no idea if he's going to Texas, but I really.
Speaker 2: Hope he is.
Speaker 1: I really, really really hope he is. All right, So
I teased it at the beginning. I saw on an
article on pokernews dot com that the rumors are at
the Ouzie millions is coming back and it's coming back
in April.
Speaker 2: Okay, what what do you know?
Speaker 1: You're the resident of Australian here, what do you know?
What can you tell me?
Speaker 2: I know nothing. This is news to me. April terrible
time to do it. So I mean, what's the.
Speaker 1: What's the I mean, you would know what's the weather
like in Melbourne in April.
Speaker 2: It's similar to what it is in Vegas right now.
You know it's like getting cold, but it's not it's
not horrible. I just the way I look at this
is what kind of audience are they catering for? Are
they catering just for Australians? Because if they are, then
they should just slought it they think is best. And
if that's April. That's April if they want to attract
the international contingent of players that used to always frequent
the ARS millions post PCA. I don't think April is
a good time. You know here in the States we
have a lot going on. Europe's got a lot going on.
You don't have the draw like you did in January
where you had the great weather the Australia, you know,
the tennis cricket for those British people coming. So I
would say April is not good if they care about
the international contingent. So I guess yeah, if it depends
who's kind of running it and what their goal is. Yeah,
but April used to be that the Melbourne Poker Championships,
I believe, or April May so. Hey, the fact that
they're talking about it is good. Obviously poker in Australia
is on the way up. You see all these events
from like the APO to the APL just absolutely crushing.
So I think Australia is prime for another big series
bringing back the millions, a very iconic tour that we've
been to numera times. Yeah, I'm all down for it.
I think yes, yes to whenever it is, but I
think they should maybe spend a bit more time thinking
about dates.
Speaker 1: So I just pulled up the article over on pokernews
dot com, written by Will Schilbeier, who is reporting on
the news that came from the Poker Pulse podcast, which
is hosted by Craig Abernethy. He's also on the show
with Troy McLean and then Troy McLean was the one
who broke the news, I guess, and it's quoted in
the article as he said, I had heard on the
grapevine that it would be returning next year, but it's
been confirmed now. It's very exciting stuff after APO, which
is the Australian Poker Open. I've heard there was a
rumor that it might not be an Australian ten thousand
dollars main, that it might be an Ozzie dollars eight
thousand Maine, but that's a rumor at the moment.
Speaker 2: Terrible Brian, just make a five? Can you're not going
to do a ten? Do five?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's a little weird, but I wonder if that
tracks similar to what the WPT just did. What did
they do? What was their buying? Wasn't it kind of weird?
Like seven thousand or something like that, So it kind
of aligned with like a five k us is I
think what they were trying to do.
Speaker 2: I just see it as the ausy million's main event,
an iconic main event has been ten k for for
like twenty years. Like, I don't think you need to audible.
I don't think you need to bend to the market.
You can bring the market up to you. And like
if we look at previous years, they used to get
eight hundreds, Like the last few years I had, you know,
eight hundred plus players. They're probably not going to get
eight hundred plus players a ten K, but you get
a five hundred player ten k. I think that's a
good a good target. If you run an extensive satellite program,
you have enough time. Yeah, keep it ten k, don't
come down, keep it up.
Speaker 1: So the WPT Australia event that was just won by
James Ops, Tim and I talked about her a couple
episodes ago, that was eight thous and Australian dollars for
the buying. So my guess is there just aligning with that.
I would say, be your own thing, especially at this
price point. You know, standout is like the largest pover
tournament in the in the Southern Hemisphere. I mean that
was always the Australian poll.
Speaker 2: How many Americans do you think play that WPT event?
That's the that's the answer.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that there was a decent number
of people.
Speaker 2: I bet you could count them on two hands.
Speaker 1: I mean sure, but I mean, but like you looking at.
Speaker 2: The wrong market, you need you need to focus on
the market that's the biggest play pool, which is Melbourne players,
Sydney players and then the rest of Australia and then international.
If you build it, the international guys will come. And
to get international guys. You want that ten k price point,
you know that's that's going to be like six and
a half k US, right if if it's a re
entry and you know, okay, that's fine, it's a perfect number.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess also along those lines of the
drawing international players, I would go back to the the
point in the schedule. I mean, it was such a
draw for people to go to the Australian Open. Yeah,
as like a lot of these big players, they obviously
liked the ten k price point, they liked all the
twenty five k challenges, the fifty k Challenge, one hundred
K challenge, and then when they had the tour and
fifty K challenge, right, they loved all the big buying
stuff that you could get. They also loved heading over
to Rod Labor Arena to watch the Aussie Open, like
you know, so it was all that same thing. So
you're not going to get that in April. I have
no idea what goes on in Australia in April.
Speaker 2: The biggest problem with April if you're trying to attract
you know, I don't know whin in April. April's you know,
thirty days. You're starting April, Well, you're starting April with
the end of you know, LPLO series, you have a
seminal Poker Showdown, you have US Poker Open is in Vegas,
you have WPT Choctaw. April's a very and then you
know you're going to go into potential Texas event. You
have trying on the backside in May. It's a very
condensed schedule in April and May.
Speaker 1: And it might also be too close to the DIVI wipe.
Speaker 2: That's an another factor too. Now if I was them,
I would say keep it in January. Maybe talk to
the PGT about figuring it out. But I would look,
I was going to say to you, you need to
get on the horn already. I emailed them eight months
and what.
Speaker 1: I would say to them is I would say I
would announce it for a return January twenty twenty six. Yeah,
and then basically massive satellite promotion all year, like all year.
Now according to the Poker Pulse podcast and McLean, they
have started to run satellites he heard, and in the
next month they're going to run six to seven seats.
Speaker 2: Why would you run satellites for an event that's not
even announced. It doesn't make sense to me. That seems like.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So I don't know. I mean, let's let's
see if we can talk to some people down there
and get a little bit more firm reporting on this,
because obviously, you know, we're going off of pokernews dot
com is writing based on what they heard for Poker
Paul's podcast. So yeah, and it doesn't sound like you've
heard anything, not that you're necessarily talking to people at
Crown or whatever, but you know, you obviously have friends
that are poker players that are in Melbourne. Yeah, so
you know, I thought maybe there's a chance that you
had heard something, but obviously not. So we'll see if
we can dig some stuff up and how it goes.
I freaking love the Aussie millions. It was the best stop.
I know a lot of people loved it. But I
think from an international sense, you know, of drawing the
international players in. Everyone of the international players that I'm
friends with that I've talked with over the years, they
have all said that they always went down there for
essentially two reasons. One love Crown, love Australia, love like
that time of the year, right, that's kind of on
like one bucket. The other side is the tournament was
incredible value. Incredible value because of the massive satellites that
Crown would run essentially all year, like pumping up the
numbers and getting these locals into this tournament, like just
NonStop satellite, satellite satellite. So they should definitely really make
a big push there. And I think that you know,
if you come out and you announce, hey, this is
happening in January twenty twenty six, this is our satellite
plan all year long. We're going to be qualifying I
don't know, three hundred people and whatever the number is,
and go from there. I think I think you can
really do well in its return. It's going to be
hard in the return. I think you saw a little
bit of that with the return of the napt You know,
they had gone away for so long, they came back
and it was good.
Speaker 2: But was it what it was?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, probably not. This year is
probably going to be a little bit more. But I
think you can close that gap of trying to build
something back up by just really coming out and swinging
big with sallite. You also, you know, of course, you
need to get the word out. You know, you need
to get people talking about this, get the news out,
get the schedule out there, all that sort of stuff.
And I agree with you. Ten k is the price point.
I think it works. You can fill the schedule around
it with all the smaller buying stuff, you know, the
sixteen fifty accumulator, you know, the one case this is
that like they always did a really good job of
that sort of stuff. So I think you can fill
the schedule around it with plenty of things. And I
think you can set yourself apart again be that you know,
biggest Spoka tournament in the Southern Hemisphere and go from there,
I'm going to be trying to find out a little
bit more on this. Always a big Ausie Millions fan,
so you know, I hope that this is true, and
I hope it does come to fruition, and I hope
it's successful. You know, I think that this was always
one of the majors, right this was It was WSP
main event, It was like the EBT Grand Final, it
was WSP Europe and it was this like I mean
like that was like one of the one of the four.
Always hopefully it comes back and comes back in a
big way. So let's go. We need to get on
the horn, figure it out, make it happen. Would you go,
would you return to.
Speaker 2: Australia in this April twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1: That that also seems a little bit close to be
able to It's we're recording this on October twenty ninth,
so it's about to be November. So I don't think
you can just announce this and like expect a lot
of numbers to come. I think this is the type
of trip where I know poker players are obvious notorious for,
you know, not planning things in advance, but when it
involves something like going to Australia, They're probably gonna want
to plan a little bit in advance, or at least
know a little bit more about what's going to be expected.
So yeah, so I would I would just, for lack
of a better term, punt it to January twenty twenty six.
And you and I have also talked about in the past.
January is like just open, right, Like that's like a
month for the taking. Still, we obviously have the war
between WPT and w C December, so I think, you know,
you can capitalize on January still, Like, I don't think
there's a ton going on in January, at least currently
that that would take too much away from, you know,
the return of the Ozzie millions if that return is
done right and they really do blow it out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you've done right. It's the key.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all right? Cool? Uh? You got anything else?
Speaker 2: No good?
Speaker 1: We're out of here.
Speaker 2: Right to win an napt something?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: I want to go win somebody an napt Oh are.
Speaker 1: You going to go play? They're having satellites this week.
Speaker 2: I played my satellite.
Speaker 1: How did it was that a satellite that you were in?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You sent me a photo of Tim sent me a photo.
He texted me a photo of Resorts World chips. I
didn't know if you were there for the Nightly or whatever.
Speaker 2: No, I it was the first satellite they ran. It
was on a Sunday two seat guarantee. They needed twenty
eight players. I was like so confident they were going
to overlay. I turned up, like I was looking at
the clock. I turned up on the buzzer that an
eight player overlay. So then they had twenty entrants for
two seats.
Speaker 1: I mean, so if you're in Vegas, you better get
your ass there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then obviously yesterday they did a little better.
I haven't checked today's but yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know what it is with these satellites
in Vegas because we for the PGT, the PLO series
ones like were not that great, you know, so I
don't know what it's. Part of me says that, like,
I feel like the the Vegas crowd isn't used to
satellites like in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I mean, are they I don't have an answer. It's
very You can blame a lot of things. You can
blame promotion, you can blame timing like some day Sunday
during football season is not ideal. You know, that was
the issue we had with the Plois series as well.
But maybe it's just the people in Vegas like the
They're just not going to bother with satellites. They're just
going to direct buy into a five K Maine. There's
two people that played the satellite. I'm not going to
name their names, but I would expect to be in
the main event regardless.
Speaker 1: So why can't you name names.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to name names.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was in town, I would have
been in the satellites, and I'm planning I'm playing the
main event anyway. Yeah whatever, I mean, I don't like
I can get in there for cheap whatever. It's what
was what's the buy in for the four hundred? Yeah four?
Either either I'm going to spend fifty four hundred or
fifty seven hundred dollars, right, or what's the difference there?
That's not that's not the big of a difference fifty
three or fifty seven, you know, Or I have a
shot to turn that four hundred into fifty three hundred
dollars seat and I'll take that shot. So so yeah,
I mean, I'm a little bit bummed that I'm not
there for the for these satellites, but you know, I
think if you are in Vegas, you should certainly take
advantage of them. I don't see why you wouldn't. Yeah,
I mean, satellites. Satellites are a great way to do
extremely well. You can get into these events, and even
if even if you know, still extending to play a
fifty three dollars event in this example is still a
big step for you. You can get into the event,
you can sell some action. You know, it allows you
to put some money in your pocket, and you can
go from there and then hopefully, you know, you just
fold the cash in the in the the actual event.
That's what Tim is going to be my strategy. Tim
is going to be trying to basically fold the cash
in the satellite and then fold the cash in the
Nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: With nothing with that at all.
Speaker 1: People make money, no big deal, all right, that's going
to do it for us. My name is Zanni Peters,
his name is Tim Duckworth. Thank you guys, and we'll
talk to you on the next episode.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jenny
Speaker 1: O