Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season four,
episode twenty eight of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck
Walkler joined by William Updyke. Adam Ausland is unavoidably detained today.
Speaker 2: Surprise surprise.
Speaker 1: What is he doing? Couldn't tell you no idea. He
had to take care of something. He had to take
care of something. But you know we're here talking clips
with you, something Adam does do a lot of his time,
So I hope you're taking care of whatever stuff you're
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Will I don't really, I had like a whole outline
planned for stuff, but we kind of had another whiplash
day in Clipper's fandom, which is just kind of how
the season's going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else is new?
Speaker 1: So Kawhi missed the Spurs game, but he's now questionable
for tomorrow versus the Pels, which feels crazy. Yeah, Uh,
Garland is questionable he was, you know, flexing and stretching
his right foot gingerly against the Kings per Chilmayer, and
then Matherin popped up on the injury. He will not
play versus the Pels or Dallas. So good on Kawhi,
bad on Matherine that that's just weird. It's weird. It's
just this season is so much I feel.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean, it's it's even a lot for
like the regular realm of Clipper nome. And it seems
to happen to at these moments where we really seem
like we're, you know, gaining some sort of momentum or something. Yes,
but so it goes, so it goes. I don't know, like,
have these last two contests with the Spurs, like, have
they changed anything for you about the potential of like
let's move up in seven A and maybe, you know,
maybe we could make some noise.
Speaker 1: Not really, I think Adam Adam says it's the lesser
of two evils, which is like absolutely true, one.
Speaker 2: Thousand percent, one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: That being said, in a seven game series, I do
find it difficult to think that the Clippers would be
able to beat the Spurs.
Speaker 2: Honestly, they could split the road series, win both at
home and then and then is when I would start
being like, maybe they could do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Spurs, like we saw it last night, like
missing Kawhi was shitty because you miss his rebounding and
his revenge games and of course his revenge games. But
they you know, they grabbed twenty two offensive boards. They
have a guy who Adam did a good breakdown when
Batom and Lopez had the inbounds gaff against the Spurs.
These size is what prevented Watom from going down. Like,
they just have a guy who can break the game
and a really good rosters, not that Kawhi cannot.
Speaker 2: Kawhi is he should have to play in flats?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: He has to play in those vibrum shoes.
Speaker 1: Oh the no, that's that's how you get hurt right there. Yeah.
The game last night, I mean it started great, they
were up thirteen, and then it was just like, oh,
this is why the Spurs are the Spurs, and we
were we were missing I'm shorthanded. I don't know. I
feel like it was nice that like Garland had I
think probably his worst turn over game, but he got it.
Kind of was like a growing pains. I was. It
was nice that he kind of like took over for
a brief stint late and helped get the game close.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean we need him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, he's so fun to watch. Something that annoyed
me about last night, okay, is well, we're gonna talk
about the Joseph I Award thing against the Kings in
a second. But we got a really good rebounding performance
from John Collins. Yes, that was awesome. And Jordan Miller.
Jordan Miller's been fantastic. Brook Lopez and Isaiah Jackson combined
for two boards. Yeah, and I know that's not their
whole job. I know these are guys that aren't necessarily
going to be lighting it up in the rebound numbers,
but missing Kawhi, especially getting two boards from your two
centers is difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean Jordan Miller has like three times
as many boards as them combined.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, hats off to Jordan Miller.
Speaker 2: He was very different, very yeah, very different situation. But uh,
shout shout.
Speaker 1: Out Jordan Miller. It's just one of the shortcomings of
the team. And when you're missing Yannick, when Brooke is
out there. He's looking a little more tired, he's looking
a little older as we get through March. Yeah, I mean,
credit to him, he's been great since Zoo left, But
like there is a slope.
Speaker 2: It feels like totally totally and I think that that
is definitely like a minute sload thing. Like I do
think that having Brooke in that starting lineup helps mask
some of his sort of like it like sort of inadequacies.
I mean, that's why, you know, that's part of the
reason why he was he became like a perennial starter
later like in his career, is you know, the floor
spacing and then you if you have the right personnel
around him, you can kind of cover up some of
those things. The issue is that that's like I think effective,
and like I think you're maxing that out and probably
like fifteen to eighteen minutes and he's being asked to
play you know, much closer to twenty three, twenty five,
like you know, so I just, yeah, you're gonna see
him tired, You're gonna see some of those limitations. Have
you seen enough from Jackson to be convinced that there's
anything there or are the clippers? Are the Clippers in
need of some serious center personnel.
Speaker 1: I think something's there for sure. There's limitations, right, I think.
I mean, I don't think Brook Lopez. Brook probably won't
be on the team next year. I don't think I'm
check his contract, but I think they'd want to make
room for some youth. He did sign a two year deal,
it's a club option. They might pick that up to
help mentor Yanick.
Speaker 2: I could see it. I mean, I could see it,
depending on they's availability. But I think even if he
is available coming off of the foot thing, I mean,
that's another thing that you worry about re injuring. Yeah,
so you gotta have a you gotta have a solid
reserve core. If that's sort of the tendency of who
you're hoping to groom into the next you know, starting center.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to worry about backup center again. But thankfully
right now we just have oh wait, so wait to
the Isaiah Jackson question too. I think we've also seen
that our small ball lineups have been at least not terrible. Yes,
we saw it again against the Spurs a little bit,
so I like that. But as far as next year, yeah,
I think there might be some reshuffling. I like Isaiah
Jackson a lot. He was He's been productive for the
most part. But there's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said off pod to me the other day
that you he'd impressed you.
Speaker 1: He absolutely has. But again the boards thing.
Speaker 2: But you sound like you're saying it with less confidence.
Now he got one board one performance. Yeah, one board.
There's not one performance. That's one board. You switching too much, flip.
Speaker 1: I just want more boards. The energy has been great,
I just want more boards.
Speaker 2: Actually he's saying Zoo was overrated.
Speaker 1: I know what's not. We do have to note that
the Clippers did lose to the Kings and will you
weren't there for it. But if for those of you
who watched the live stream, you know that this is
mostly Joseph i Awart's fault. Yeah. He he tried to
say that Russ wasn't good against the Clippers in that
Denver series, and he was, and Russ heard that and
that was like.
Speaker 2: That wasn't like that was a miserable loss.
Speaker 1: It was brutal. How are we feeling the Clippers? This
is almost an Updike fun check for the old locked
on clips listeners. The Clippers are seven and three in March.
I get I wrote this before the Mathron news and
the math and News. I'm I gotta read more about it.
But he's been dealing with an injury in his right
big toe. He's been dealing with it.
Speaker 2: What's up with all the footstuff?
Speaker 1: What's up with I say this more often than I
want to. What's up with all the foot stuff?
Speaker 2: In your browser history?
Speaker 1: In my browser history? What's up with all the foot stuff?
Even my incognito keeps what's up with all the foot stuff?
So we dealt with it last year January thirtieth, twenty
twenty four, he had a big toe thing. Mm hmm,
that's all I can fine. After a very cursory Twitter search, which,
as we know, is one of the better searching How
are we feeling? It's again, we're seven and three. We
have new injury worries with Kawhi's ankle and Matherine's toe.
Is it the shoes? How are you feeling?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like all things considered, I'm feeling
I'm feeling pretty good. I think that we're I'm not
liking the way that we're kind of limping out of
this season. You know, we're right now less than a
month away from the play.
Speaker 1: In and we got eight games to make up for
it just in this month. Allow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look like we achieved the goal where
you know, we made it into that seven eight spot.
I think, you know, I think we should be able
to stay ahead of ahead of the Warriors, ahead of
the Blazers. But but at the same time, Ah, but
I just don't know that we're like we're not coming
into this in like peak. It doesn't feel like we're
coming in with the same momentum, you know what I mean,
as like a team that's like hoping to maybe cause
a little noise, and that can change very quickly, don't
get me wrong, But it's just where we're at right
now is like a little bit less fun.
Speaker 1: Than where we were before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's kind of like on the roller coaster
when like you know, you have like your big loops
and it's like, yeah, fun, and then sometimes you have
like some of those twists and it's like, what I mean,
this isn't fun. I can't see anything. Just feels like
I'm getting whiplash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what this period feels like. Also, I need
to correct no fun, I'm still on the roller coaster,
for God's sakes. But you know, I'm here for the
I'm here for the ride. Mathron had turf toe, that
was what it was coming in an injury.
Speaker 2: Wait, he had turf toe too.
Speaker 1: Yes, so Matherine and Garland and Garland the Pacers listed
Benedict Mathrin with turf toe in August twenty twenty five.
So I totally forgot about that. And turf toe is
a pain in the ass injury. Yeah, he had the
toast brain. Yeah, it's just man, Okay, So it is
a recurring thing. We'll see, We'll see how the toaf heals.
I kind of like what you said about like limping,
because we obviously started March we were hot.
Speaker 2: No pun intended on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Clippers are at five hundred as of this recording.
We play the Warriors on the final game of the
season again, yes, and we have two more games against
the Blazers. We play the Blazers at the end of
March and the second to last game of the season.
So like the Clippers are in another situation where up
until the end of the season, your seating can change
every game matters.
Speaker 2: Just what Adam Silver wanted, which is why he set
it up this way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's now the issue, and this is kind of
matchup talk. The Wolves are missing and for however long
did you leave? Why'd you kick me out? Do I
kick you out?
Speaker 2: Kind idea?
Speaker 1: Uh, Now, Minnesota's gonna miss ant. He's gonna be reevaluated
one to two weeks. So there's a non zero chance
that they do some falling in the standings. Mhmm. They're
two games up on the Suns, so they could fall
into seven.
Speaker 2: Would do you prefer that?
Speaker 1: No? I don't think no. Well, because we a couple
of weeks ago, maybe it was last week. The Nuggets
might slip into seven too, because they're both the Nuggets
and the Wolves are two games ahead on the Suns,
and I personally would like the Suns to stay in seven.
Then either the Nuggets or the Timberwolves. Y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I still think that's the most I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have anyone.
Speaker 2: Do we have the two number?
Speaker 1: Though? Are they clapped? I don't want to be in
a in Minnesota for that game. That's fair. That seems
like a nightmare. I don't know what happens in that city.
That one guy got famous for beating up another fan
uh in March again, here's some stats before we had
a rough loss to the Kings and kind of a
rough law an annoying loss to the Spurs in March.
The Clippers have the best offensive rating. They are the
best true shooting team. They are second in turnover percentage
and sixth and net rating. I'm interested to see how
that changes over the next eight games. Mm hmm, I'm
a little I wish we'd beaten the Kings. If we
would have beaten the Kings, we would be singing a
much different tune. That's an annoying.
Speaker 2: If only we'd beaten the King.
Speaker 1: Understand, It's just like that's a game that like, come on, dude,
But I'm feeling fine, cautiously fine. Yeah, today again just
more weird injury went play. Any other thoughts before we
get into what might be a cursed back to back.
The Golden Artist is to express the times, dude. A
great man said that recently, and that is that is
what we're doing here on clips and them. I hope
Matherin's toe heels up, yeah quickly. Three games is a lot. Yeah,
I feel like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's sandwich the bad with some more bad.
Speaker 1: They're already ruling him out for three games. He's traveling
with the team, which I would say adds to the confusion.
They're optimistic, man, yeah, are they? Though they already ruled
them out. Snip snap, snip snap. This is what this
whole season has been, all right, And this is not
directed it. This is no one's fault. This is what
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in. Got the Pells back to
back and taking on the MAVs on Saturday. And how
you feeling You made a face.
Speaker 1: I don't like that we're playing the Pels in a
back to.
Speaker 2: Back because it's it's hard to beat at the same
team twice.
Speaker 1: And it's apparently very difficult for the Clippers to beat
the Pels, except for when we played them the last time,
because we beat them by like twenty But yeah, they're not.
They have no incentive to tank, as has been well documented.
They have Herb Jones is healthy. Jeanta Murray can kill us.
I don't. I just don't like that we're playing them.
We might not have Kawhi, we might not have Garland,
we don't have Mathrons. So because we've been getting a
lot of help with the free throws.
Speaker 2: You're angry with the short like the shorthandedness of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, that's what makes me feel weird, Like how
many of these games does Kawhi play.
Speaker 2: Of this?
Speaker 1: Like the of these three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thinking Man's back to back?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, going to New Orleans for a back to
back is very much the thinking Man's back to back.
That's a tough back to back city.
Speaker 2: I mean, optimistically, he plays in two of the three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, play him tomorrow, sit Thursday, play him Saturday.
Speaker 2: Sit tomorrow, play Thursday, play Saturday.
Speaker 1: The MAVs are also really bad.
Speaker 2: Right now, better than the Kings. Well, that is true.
Speaker 1: They've won four games since the All Star break as
of this recording, they foul the most and they don't
score very many points. This is where a missing mathrone
hurts two. That's yeah, free throws right there. What a
two in one and I'm fine with this. Three and
four a comfortable two in one and I'm okay with it.
Split the back to back against the Pels. It's a
weird matchup for the Clippers. They've lost a lot of games,
but there's like pieces there that can be annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they flummox us somehow, multiple iterations of the
pearls for some reason. Yes, uh yeah, I mean I
can feel comfortable with that. We're not going three and oh,
so I you know, I think I think two. I
think I think two and one is your is your
best case.
Speaker 1: And like we wish. Yeah, And like this is why
losing to the King sucks because it's like, how much
of the bad things that happened against the Kings? How
much is that going to actually carry over? You know
what I mean? Like, what part of that was real?
Speaker 2: And I just none of it.
Speaker 1: None of this is real. That is actually a really
good point. This is all a simulation version whatever the
King shot crazy from three. So it's like that makes
you feel a little bit better because it was like
a random night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally. Yeah, wasn't Tomorto Rosen like perfect from
the floor until he.
Speaker 1: Order like ten shots in a row?
Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe the third I can't remember, but yeah,
that that that was a bit of an outlier.
Speaker 1: It was an outlayer game. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
it's a weird one.
Speaker 2: It's a weird one.
Speaker 1: We did beat them by twenty to start the month.
We didn't have uh Garland, they didn't have Zion.
Speaker 2: I know, the injuriness of it all makes it.
Speaker 1: And since the All Star Break, the pels like they're
not that bad. They're eleventh in offensive rating, eighteenth and
defensive ratings so they're fourteenth and net they're eight their
top ten and two shooting percentage and their fifth and
offensive rebound percentage, which troubles me specifically for the game
when Kauhia is out. Yeah, that is a huge thing
to lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's gonna have to pick up some some slack
on that end, and apparently it won't be Jackson.
Speaker 1: Or Lopez or Lopez. Yeah, it's it's just gonna be weird.
I was looking at their lineups.
Speaker 2: I hate how impactful it is too, because like it's
huge and two and one is like, okay, great, you
know you didn't lose the Pels on the back to back,
you beat the terrible Maves. But that those numbers flip
and like the seating thing gets very real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the margins are very thin right now for the Clippers.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The whiplash. She had a seen
Adam and I on the stream not that long ago,
laughing it up, laughing our asses off. Life is great. Yeah.
I just felt like tense all day just thinking about
this upcoming, these upcoming matchups, and then also just beat
the maps. Let's like, I don't care who's available. Beat
the maps. Yeah, that's a thing that the seventh seed
should be able to do. We need, right, we need
Jordan Miller to continue to score. Shout out Jordan Miller
yet again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm feeling okay about this.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I just feel tense. That's the only
way to really feel about it. There's like, I mean
limited upside in that, you know, in terms of.
Speaker 1: Like, well the limited upside as we stay in the
eighth spot exactly, is that limited upside it feels like
it's it's like terrifying upside. It's like the best possible thing.
We're gonna get some bounce back performances, though, Derek Jones
Junior is not gonna go two for six from three. No,
Mathron is tough, dude. Like, so you start Kawh So
for one of these games, let's assume Kawhi plays, so
that means Collins goes to the bench. Yeah, man, there's
not a lot of Yeah, he's the offense off the bench,
him and him and Jordan Miller who man, math took
the most rethros on I bet math has taken the
most rethrows on the team and for a lot of
the games that he's played. And if the true shooting
percentage starts to lie to us, which it might, the
we're seeing the fatigue. We're ten games in. This is
March seventeenth, and the Clippers are seven and three this month.
I don't know They're gonna have to dig deeper than
I wish they would have to. It's not a shot
at the Clippers at all.
Speaker 2: It's just like, I mean, of course you're gonna have
to though if you start six and twenty one, like
it's gonna be uphill where for everything. But yeah, especially
being short handed. Yeah, like especially being shorthanded. I don't know,
it's it's all. It's very tense.
Speaker 1: But two and one at the same time doable. This
team shows up, Yeah, shows up one time against the Pels,
be tired the second night, show up against the MAVs.
Speaker 2: You have, that's the one that would be like the
like if we went one and two.
Speaker 3: Oh, if we went one and two, I am concerned,
yeah because that also, Yeah, I would be less concerned
if they go one and we went one.
Speaker 2: To two and like we win, so we win tomorrow,
lose the second game to the Pels, and then lose
the to the MAVs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pissed. I'd be pissed, Yeah, and I'd
be like it would just it would just be so frustrating.
And that probably means that guys are out, Like it
means that Kawhi is probably out two of the games.
I mean, man, yeah, I hope Mathern heels up quick. Yeah.
It does give Garland a more chance to kind of
not that he wasn't leading the show before or anything
like that, but like we saw him have a little
more of the Spotlight last night. He had twenty one attempts,
including a comically long three because he didn't want to
drive on Wemby late in the shot clock. So he's
gonna get more which is good, right, Like he's gonna
get some rhythm or more rhythm. Like he hasn't had
that many games as a clip, So that's a plus.
I like it. Miller's playing good. Like again, it's there,
but it just feels more difficult than it should be.
Who's your pick? Who? Do we feel.
Speaker 2: Differently though if they don't lose to the game slightly?
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, what's difficult is like the because the availability
is still the same, right like Kawhi twisted that ankle
in the Kings game. Yeah, so like I think it's
most I think you're right. I think it's mostly the injuries.
The availability is what I'm most most stressed about. Who's
your pick for player of this three and four? Oh? Wait,
who's Adam's pick? Since he's not here? He always gives
you Russ.
Speaker 2: Oh he gives me Russ. Yeah that's great. Great. I
guess I'm gonna go with Collins. I'm gonna go with
someone that we know is going to be available. That's
like what I'm that's what I'm hedging my bets on.
I want to say Garland or something, especially if Kauhi
is out. Uh and Garland does end up being able
to go.
Speaker 1: Because Garland will sit out one of these games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's quite. He's still only questionable though for Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, he's still only questionable for Wednesday. But he
hasn't been playing back to backs, he's sat. He said,
what do you want him to do? So you're going,
You're going Collins. Garland is maybe on the can't choose
list just because clearly we need him to be good.
Speaker 2: Now you can well, I guess in this scenario you
can choose him because you're you're hedging your bets overall.
Speaker 1: Three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, this is a this is accumulative effort. And
so I'm going with someone who's gonna be available.
Speaker 1: Well yeah Collins, Yeah, Collins on the boards is gonna
be huge. I'm gonna go. I hope this doesn't kill
his momentum, and I hope no one clips this if
it does. Jordan Miller, dude, he continues to be with
Matherin gone off the bench. We're gonna need him to
get close to twenty ish points. Mm hmmm, because the
bench scoring is gonna be in limbo, because the lineup
is gonna be in limbo over this trip. And again
we're gonna need Darius Carlton to be as good as
he's been as well. Adam would, Adam would pick Brook,
Adam would Adam is picking Brook. That about wraps it up.
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Speaker 2: We're not he's not making multiple trips.
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not here to do the one positive thing, so I'm
gonna have to go with its positive that Mathern traveled
with the team. That's good. He's with the team. Maybe
you know, maybe who knows if he if he gets
some run, but it's good. He's with the team. A
little confusing, but good. Also we hope to tell gets better.
Thank you for hanging out. We will see you on
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