WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh better, that are. 2 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:17.760 M hm. 3 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:33.119 Trigger Warrener. 4 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.719 This podcast may include explicit content that will take you 5 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.479 out of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 6 00:00:40.920 --> 00:01:23.280 Listener's discretion is advised. What is going on? Everybody? Welcome 7 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.560 back to the Gray Pill Podcast. Good evening, I guess, 8 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.040 good evening, and welcome back to the Gray Pull Podcast. 9 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.959 I am your host, Jules, the Mississippi Mystic Sound Scientists, 10 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:39.519 the eloheem Etymologist. You know why I'm here, you know 11 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.599 what we're here to do. Here for another banger of 12 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.120 an episode. Guys, before we get started, be sure to 13 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.040 like the stream, share it with your friends and your 14 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:53.760 family at at your own risk. Like I said, have 15 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:57.079 a banger lined up for us tonight. We are joined 16 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:02.920 by my friend and fellow reject occult reject that is 17 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:08.919 Julia of the Cosmic Peach podcast. Julia, how are we 18 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.280 doing this evening? 19 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:12.120 I'm good. 20 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:16.759 At trying to work. We're kind of work with the soundboard. 21 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:19.560 We're trying to trying new things here on. I'm grateful. 22 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.039 I like it, I love it. I feel appreciated already, 23 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.080 So thank you for having me. 24 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.960 We should guys. This is Julia. She's the host of 25 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:33.479 the Cosmic Peach podcast. I've been meaning to get her 26 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:36.360 on for a minute. We both are on the Occult 27 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:40.039 Rejects panel together, so we we do some shows together, 28 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.759 but we've never, you know, been a guest on each 29 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:50.280 other's perspective show. So, uh, Julia, tell us a little 30 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.080 bit about it. For people who don't know you, I, 31 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.199 I know you've been in this game for a minute now, 32 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:57.599 you know. 33 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:03.919 Yeah, actually, yeah, sometimes well, I mean I think about 34 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:06.240 it sometimes and it feels like you haven't been doing 35 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.400 it very long, and then sometimes I feel like I've 36 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:13.039 been doing it forever. But yeah, when people ask like, oh, 37 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:14.599 what do you do and I say, oh, I have 38 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:17.599 a podcast, people think like it's just a hobby something 39 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.479 that I do for fun on the side. But I've 40 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.599 been working at it for several years now. It definitely 41 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.120 didn't just pop off overnight. It's been like a slow, 42 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:31.680 gradual rise, you know. But I'm really appreciative for the 43 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:34.639 people who have listened to my show from the very beginning, 44 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:39.080 because it's like with any conspiracy theory journey, I started 45 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.919 off like real skeptical about everything, and then I started 46 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.719 like discovering like neffeline stuff, and then I talked to 47 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.599 like Gary Wayne and I did like the Genesis six 48 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:55.000 conspiracy stuff, and then you know, I got into like 49 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.680 Dave McGowan's work in the Laurel Canyon and Program to Kill, 50 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.400 and it's just been it's been a ride, and I 51 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.599 feel like the people that listen to my show have 52 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.560 kind of like went along with me on the ride, 53 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.120 because like at first, you you think like Bigfoot's just Bigfoot, 54 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.879 and like there's act, maybe there's actually extraterrestrials and shit 55 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.839 like that. But now I'm to the point where everything's 56 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.319 like some type of weird nephulum creature and hybrid comers 57 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.759 and use some type of trimera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically. 58 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:31.759 We can get into talking about that too. I know 59 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.360 we had kind of talked earlier. You had some presentations 60 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.079 I think that you wanted to pull up. We were 61 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:42.120 gonna get into Laurel Canyon, some mk ULTR stuff. So again, guys, share, 62 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.680 share the show and be sure to hit that like button. 63 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.319 But before we get started talking about anything, So you've 64 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:52.680 been doing this how long you said? 65 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:57.279 You said, I think like twenty twenty two. 66 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.680 Really, yeah, it feels like, yeah, I see, it feels 67 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.639 like you've been doing it a lot longer. I think 68 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.120 we've had this discussion before. 69 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.439 Yeah, well, I feel like sometimes it does feel like 70 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.240 a long time, especially when you're looking for new topics 71 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:15.079 and new guests and like fun new things to cover. 72 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.480 Since twenty twenty two, I've you know, sometimes it's like 73 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.319 I want to cover the same stuff other people are 74 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.399 talking about, but then I don't want to sound like, 75 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.920 you know, I'm just writing their coat tails. So I 76 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.879 try to find like my own interesting shit to talk about. 77 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.639 And so yeah, I mean sometimes it feels like a 78 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:35.399 real struggle. Sometimes I can't. 79 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.279 Even listen, you know, half the time, because I'm like, dude, 80 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.879 if I hear something and it's even remotely close to 81 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.120 what I have to say about this subject, and then 82 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.240 it didn't come to me, you know, Yeah, yeah you 83 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.160 have to. Yeah, I think a. 84 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:56.600 Good podcast host always like listens to other podcasts and 85 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:00.079 they'll like get ideas and stuff. But I wanted to 86 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.959 be my own ideas about it, don't know. 87 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.480 And because you're a like totally authentic person, you and 88 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:13.560 Coleby both and like, you know, yeah, no, I could 89 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.439 tell when I when I first when I first met 90 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.399 you guys, and uh, you know, you have a very 91 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:24.600 authentic following. It seems organic following. That's how that's how 92 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.519 it is for me, and I struggle to get past 93 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.959 a certain amount of followers. But uh, and I've had 94 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.040 people tell me that, yeah, find you, like I search 95 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:34.839 you up, I can't find you. You have to go 96 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.879 like you have to I guess type in the link. 97 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.120 You got to you got to get the link. So 98 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.800 I've been I just printed some uh QR code stickers 99 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:44.600 guys sending those out with sticker packs. 100 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.160 Oh that's so smart. 101 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:48.680 Yes, yes, I thought about it, and I was like, 102 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:49.279 you know, mm. 103 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.680 Hmm, yeah, No, that's so smart because I don't know, 104 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.600 I don't get a lot of people say that they 105 00:06:54.600 --> 00:07:01.600 can't find me. But it's like some of the like bigger, 106 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.000 bigger shows that I've been on, I feel like really 107 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.079 lucky to get to be a part of the show 108 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.560 or whatever, and then afterwards, I'm like, I don't know 109 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.000 if that was like the right topic to cover. Like 110 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.079 I try. I always try to like bring the heat 111 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.800 when I go on bigger shows because I want to 112 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:19.680 give them a taste of like what it would be 113 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.560 like to listen to my show. And sometimes I get 114 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.519 really nervous, and then I'm like, oh, I fucked up. No, 115 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.560 he's gonna come fucking listen to my show now. I 116 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.519 sounded like a retard the whole time. So it took 117 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.160 a while for me to like be able to relax 118 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.759 and just like enjoy the conversation without am I saying this? Right? Am? 119 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:42.639 I doing this? Right? Am? I? You know? 120 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:46.519 Coming home? I am an anxious son of a bitch too. 121 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:50.399 I am spastic at times. 122 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.720 Probably that like mannic, that's how I get to Yeah, 123 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.800 Like I went on Tinfoil Hat two times, and both 124 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:01.600 times I felt like I was going to throw up 125 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.160 the entire time. And then after I got done with 126 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.519 the show, I was like, nobody's gonna come find my shit? Now. 127 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.439 I sound fucking stupid. I just like, you know, I'm 128 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.720 a nervous wreck the entire time. And Yeah, but it 129 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:16.680 took it took a while for me to just relax 130 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.319 and not worry so much about if if people come 131 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.839 to find the show, because if they want to find it, 132 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.839 they will, And I'm really opinionated on a lot of 133 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:29.199 stuff and probably lose a lot of people because of it, 134 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:30.199 you know what I mean? 135 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.240 Me too, Yeah, I've seen this happen. Kobee. 136 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.480 Well, I was talking to Colby this morning about coming 137 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.919 on the show tonight, and he said he heard you 138 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.519 on the White Rabbit podcast and that you have an 139 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:49.480 interesting take on Christianity. And I was just curious what that. 140 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:53.480 Is man was was he was he referring to me 141 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.600 talking about Christian mysticism. 142 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:01.159 Probably probably because he was like, you should ask him 143 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.600 about it, and because I have my own thoughts on 144 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.600 it too, and I feel like I lose a lot 145 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:07.639 of people because of that. But I was just curious 146 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.720 what you guys had talked about. 147 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.200 Uh well, you know we Uh well, he was asking 148 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.519 me a lot about my first when I first started podcasting, 149 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.559 I was real big Well, I had read a lot 150 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:23.320 of Sitchen right, a lot of Sitchen and Lawrence Gardner, 151 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.000 a little bit of Michael Heiser, but I agreed more 152 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.080 with Sitchen because I was doing research on other pantheons 153 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.399 as well, and I was like comparing names. I have 154 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.600 charts and everything, and like who like the symbols, who 155 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:38.960 they were worshiped as, what their name meant, and like 156 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:42.000 what it was translated to and how, and you know, 157 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.200 I was like, well, wait a minute, all these mainly 158 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.559 like when you look back into the Bible and stuff, 159 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.919 you see all these different deities mentioned, and like most 160 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.840 fundamentalists Christians believe that there is like a Satan, right, 161 00:09:55.960 --> 00:10:01.799 and I think there are many h different deities trying 162 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:07.200 to uh like fighting you know, for for power, like 163 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:12.799 devils like yeah, well, I mean you know it means adversary, right, 164 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.679 and not necessarily fighting each well, fighting each other in 165 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.759 in the spiritual realm. They use other people to do 166 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:23.679 their bidding here in the physical plane. But you know, 167 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:25.840 just the fact that like I don't know, there's so 168 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.519 much there's so many similarities between all these ancient stories 169 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:36.039 of these uh, these beings that came from heaven to earth. Right, 170 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:40.360 it's all translated different you know ways. You have these names, 171 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.720 the the anechem, the uh the sons of a knock, 172 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.960 the onnake, you know, and you see it in all 173 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.960 in all these cultures, right, they have all these stories 174 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:55.000 of of the gods, and uh, you know, it could 175 00:10:55.080 --> 00:11:00.759 all be metaphysical and symbolic. I I I dive into 176 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:04.320 that a lot too. You know. I'm big into esoteric symbolism. 177 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:12.159 And I think maybe people who have translated books in 178 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.200 the past didn't understand what they were translating. 179 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.200 You know, well, do you think this might be a 180 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.799 good segue, But do you think that our government is 181 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:28.679 working with these entities the CIA? Yeah, like all the 182 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:30.799 three letters, the weirdos. 183 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.120 I believe that these entities are actually adverse to each other. 184 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.480 I believe there's two sides to them. Now I don't 185 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.960 I think that they're both kind of neutral and one 186 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.399 more towards like mysticism in the arts, and the other 187 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.879 is more of like a warlike you know what I mean. 188 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.399 So you have that of like, yeah, you know the 189 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:58.799 ice here in the Vanyar or like the Rustic gods, 190 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:02.799 and then you know the gods of war. But and 191 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.519 you see the same in these Semitic pantheons, So you know, 192 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:07.960 maybe they're just you know, there's all these aspects to 193 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.320 these different pantheons with these different archetypes, because you know, 194 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:18.200 they could just be characteristics of humanity right described in 195 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.799 a in this divine state, you know what I mean, 196 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.200 drawn up and worshiped, and I've talked about Eggrigor's and 197 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.639 all that good stuff and how things can be created 198 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:34.279 over time, you know, mm hmm, Yeah. 199 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:38.080 No, I agree because I know NASA works with them. 200 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.240 In my opinion, I think that they do. I think 201 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:46.840 that our government is definitely tapped into some shit and 202 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:51.039 they're working with like some Babylonian rituals and shit like that. 203 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:57.639 And I think, Okay, like your opinion then, because this 204 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:00.120 is what I think and I could be wrong. But 205 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.080 people talk about the Laurel Canyon, right, and they talk 206 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:09.799 about how the sixties movement was like a fabricated like 207 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.480 it wasn't about peace and love and like all this 208 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.480 this shit that we're supposed to think, right, it was 209 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:20.399 the facade, right. And they were mostly military kids, not 210 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.240 mostly like all of them are military kids, and their 211 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:28.120 dads were like, you know, like Frank Zappa's dad worked 212 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.799 at Edgewood Arsenal and was doing some like weird stuff 213 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:38.840 for the government. And it's like, could they have used 214 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:45.240 this hippie movement quote unquote this new sound with music 215 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.559 and the lyrics. It was almost like it changed culture, 216 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:56.240 but it's almost like they were trying to dredge something up, 217 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:00.840 like it like ritualistically that they literally changed culture. They 218 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:04.080 changed everything with the sixties. I mean, like, what do 219 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:04.919 you think about that? 220 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.799 Well? Think about. I mean the fact that it's music, right, 221 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:14.159 and and everything is felt through sound resonance, right, That's 222 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:22.039 what I'm basically and spiritually, you know. So yeah, I 223 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.960 mean I think I think the first time I heard 224 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:28.279 you talk, I may have been on ten Foot No, no, 225 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:29.759 it was on Reality is Ours? 226 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.399 Oh cool, that was I think Jim Carrey. 227 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.519 Yeah, it was with Nate Thomas, and I think that 228 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.440 was when Tony was still doing the show with them. 229 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.080 I think you were talking about Marilyn Monroe. 230 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.399 Oh okay, yeah, yeah, with them a couple of times. 231 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.600 I think I don't want to spoil anything. 232 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.320 Yeah, no, we'll save that. 233 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.559 Yeah. Yeah, but no, I definitely think. And then when 234 00:14:54.559 --> 00:15:00.159 you look at all these these stars, their pairs, it's 235 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.679 are implicated in the military or some kind of government agency. Absolutely, 236 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.600 every single one. 237 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.679 Well, this is this is what I think if you 238 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.679 look at music and culture before this hippie movement, right, 239 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.759 this slural canyon weirdo ship, it was like Buddy Hawley, 240 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:25.039 which he died pretty ritualistically, let's just say, along with 241 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:26.399 two other dudes. 242 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:32.600 Yeah about those plane wrecks that are very ritualistic. I 243 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.080 don't know who to talk to about it. But that's 244 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:38.720 funny you bring that up. I was thinking about skinnerd. 245 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:42.799 And Skinned and Aliyah and. 246 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.080 The thing with a Leah is crazy that. I mean, 247 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:47.200 it was the same year she did Queen of the Damned, 248 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.039 where she is clearly doing blood rituals in the movie. Yes, 249 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.519 you're speaking ancient like it's based off of ancient sum 250 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:59.759 like straight up, that's it's some Uh. I love that movie, dude, 251 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:01.960 Fucking all movies like that. 252 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.399 Again, she was she was fucking jay Z and doing 253 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.840 all kinds of stuff, and it's it's like. 254 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:09.919 For me, jahove. 255 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.360 If you look, if you look at the plane, the 256 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.440 weird plane crashes, that could be its own episode. But 257 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:21.759 like right before this big boom of the hippie culture 258 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.559 and like love who you want to love, and take 259 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.559 birth control and just you know, braid each other's pit 260 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:31.080 hair and like just show off your vagina to the 261 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.960 public like whatever it was that they were doing this 262 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.840 free love shit. Think about the culture and the music 263 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:43.000 and like the the the general vibe of the fifties, 264 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:44.440 like the forties and the. 265 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:49.200 Fifties coming out and you know that that uh post 266 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:53.399 war era too, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, you 267 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.799 know that the feeling of like it sounds like a 268 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.440 real good thing, right, But you had all these boomers 269 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.919 that were real I guess they weren't boomers at the time. 270 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.000 They would be considered boomers now, but they were like, 271 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.200 you know, what's this this hippie queer ship, you know 272 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:10.400 what I mean? Like, yeah, your hair, you fag. 273 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.359 They call them like long hairs and ship like that, 274 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:14.680 and I love. 275 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.440 Your hair, Scott, don't cut your hair, Scott. Sorry, it's 276 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:18.039 one of my own. 277 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.559 No, I mean, it's like normal now, but like for 278 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:26.079 the time, it was the Beatles who started off as 279 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.319 like kind of bubblegummy ship like that, like the Buddy 280 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.000 Holly stuff and like you. 281 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.720 Know, unpopular pick not a fan of the Beatles, but well. 282 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.240 I mean there's so many stories about the Beatles and 283 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:41.759 whether or not it's the real Paul and like all 284 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.400 that ship which I have talked about before, but. 285 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.000 You can look at that as biblical as well. Uh, 286 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.799 with two Pauls in the Bible. 287 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.839 Nemm oh my god, that. 288 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.599 Bible conspiracy theories. 289 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.880 Like I said, well, and there's like is aicle evidence 290 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.119 like he grew six inches and shit like that. It's 291 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.559 like things that you can't. 292 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.160 Make me, which could be uh, you know, esotery, right, 293 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.279 I don't know. So you see that number six a lot, 294 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.240 as well as three maybe, and seven and twelve, and 295 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.480 it's it's how the numbers are used, right. But you're 296 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.480 I think you're spot on about this stuff being a ritual, 297 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:25.599 and I think this whole movement definitely could have been 298 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.240 a ritual in itself. 299 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:31.480 I think so yeah, I mean yeah, I. 300 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.599 Mean I'll shut up and let you talk. 301 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:38.640 No, no, no, I mean I you're good. I definitely 302 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:42.640 think so this is this is what I'll say. 303 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:45.559 Uh. 304 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:50.079 Crosby Stills in Nash, Jim Morrison, Frank Zappa, The Birds, 305 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:54.880 Jackson Brown, cant He, the Moms and the Papas, the 306 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:58.799 actors of the time, Jack Nicholson, Warren Batty, Dennis Hopper, 307 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:04.079 Peter font On. Uh, like all the shit. It's all military. 308 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.079 A lot of them grew up on the same military 309 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:10.759 complex as each other, and then they it's like, oh, 310 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:13.079 they just found each other at a bar and like 311 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.720 they formed No, they didn't. They they literally grew up 312 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.119 in military schools together. All their parents are military, and 313 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.720 they hid that from the public because they're supposed to 314 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.039 be anti establishment, right and peace and no war and 315 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.240 love and all this, and you're it's like your dad's 316 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.039 like literally, like Jackson Brown's dad was a part of 317 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.279 the OSS, which was the precursor to the CIA. It's like, 318 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:43.920 all you fucks come from military background. 319 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:49.160 You're telling the enemy your dad is selling guns to 320 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.960 the enemy while you're out there, you know, putting flowers 321 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.200 and the bear. 322 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.720 That's the problem. And if the government, as I suspect, 323 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:04.599 works with these weird entities, then the whole movement is probably, 324 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.880 in my opinion, some type of ritualistic, you know, because 325 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:12.440 everything changed after that. I mean, Jim Morrison's dad was 326 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:17.240 literally responsible for like the Tonkin Gulf incident which started 327 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:21.599 the Vietnam War, which, by the way, the Vietnam War 328 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.359 going on around Laurel Canyon times, big ass fucking blood 329 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:29.599 ritual that didn't need to happen whatsoever. We did that shit, 330 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:36.400 We started that ship and for what It's just yeah, I. 331 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:41.400 Mean, what do you think about that about Vietnam? Yeah, well, 332 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:46.000 besides the opium trade being set up through that, I mean, 333 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.160 that's how it all. You know, Frank Lucas the whole 334 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.759 If you've seen American gangster, but I mean it was 335 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.599 being supplied to him, I think by you see, I 336 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.519 mean it's the same thing with Freeway Rick Ross, you 337 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:10.960 know that guy too. But the the Vietnam War, you know, especially, 338 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:16.839 I don't know, it just seems to me that we 339 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:19.240 shouldn't I don't know, we shouldn't be fighting any of 340 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.119 these wars. There's not one war I don't think that 341 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.400 we should have ever really been in. Not one. 342 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:29.039 They're all like huge blood rituals, but it was like 343 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:32.279 they needed the bodies to power the ritual of what 344 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.720 they were trying to pull off in the sixties. They 345 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:38.680 needed the bodies. And you know, even besides that, if 346 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.359 you look at like all the fucking people that just 347 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.160 turned up fucking dead in the Laurel Canyon, there's like 348 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:45.240 one hundred people. 349 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:50.920 M damn. Yeah, that surprised me. 350 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.880 That's there's like a whole murderless oh bless them. 351 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.680 Well, I was gonna say, I mean, think about war. 352 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:01.000 There's gods that are dedicated to to war. So war 353 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.960 in itself is a ritual, you know, the entire like 354 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.880 the war and then the blood. You know, depending on 355 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.039 where you're fighting, is it being uh you know, shed 356 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.279 on on in Vietnam. It's being shed all over the earth, right, 357 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.640 more than buildings and uh you know in in uh 358 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:23.920 some city. But uh, you know, I I definitely think 359 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.200 there's something to that that's actually something to look into. 360 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.599 This is one of the times you never really touched, 361 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.839 to be quite honest with you, I mean. 362 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:37.519 It's just it goes along with everything that we talk about. 363 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.640 I mean there's like weird murders, weird serial killers, the 364 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.599 Manson family, all that shit came out of the sixties, 365 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:49.079 Laurel Canyon, Vietnam, all of it. It's like a weird 366 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:50.880 fucking program they were running. 367 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.839 Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know that. So was 368 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.759 Laurel Canyon tied into the No War. 369 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:05.480 Yeah, because it was all like hippies and like with 370 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.480 their signs and like we want peace and love and 371 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:09.559 I will hang on. 372 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:16.640 You're sorry, No, I told you. Look, look, look everyone 373 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:22.440 here knows. They've seen they've heard, my kids, my dog, 374 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.480 my wife, my family. It's it's fine, you're you're on 375 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:27.079 Gray Pield. 376 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:34.400 Yeah, it gets contankerous when I'm talking. He wants to 377 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.559 be a part of the show. But yeah, that's when 378 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.640 that's when Maryland comes into it because it's like she 379 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.400 was part of the Laurel Canyon scene and part of 380 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.480 the sixties. And I talked to people about all these 381 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:51.799 weird ritualistic deaths that came out of the sixties, like 382 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.039 you know, movie stars James Dean and like a lot 383 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:58.400 like Jim Morrison. 384 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.960 Ooh guy, man, it seems those guys were just nothing 385 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:05.119 but a sacrifice, right. 386 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.599 That's what I'm saying. If they're even dead, they could 387 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.680 have like staged some shit, you know what I'm saying. 388 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.519 That you have to look at. But if they are dead, Julia, 389 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:19.839 then like think about the how many of those I mean, 390 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:26.079 they were all probably sacrifices right on some level, these people. 391 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.079 And I think these people may have they were so 392 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:35.240 spun out on LSD and and you know, opium and 393 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:40.119 even harder shit. And yes, they they I think they 394 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.759 definitely knew what they were doing. I mean what Jim 395 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:46.119 Morrison called himself, the Lizard came right, oh. 396 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.359 Yeah, and he called everybody slaves and like whatever. And 397 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.519 see before. 398 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.200 We didn't know how to look at it through the 399 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.920 same lens we look at it today. If he did 400 00:24:55.960 --> 00:25:00.599 that shit today, guaranteed he would. I mean, I don't know. 401 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.960