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<v Speaker 2>Like back, Tim Kaits.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers lose again. They fall to the Brewers six to four,

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<v Speaker 3>a game in which the Dodgers battled back from a

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<v Speaker 3>three to nothing deficit, took the lead, only to have

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen give it up with a three run eighth

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<v Speaker 3>inning by the Milwaukee offense against Daniel Hudson, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers fall to the Brewers six to four. Hi, Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to Dodger Talk here on this Thursday afternoon. Tim Kate's

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<v Speaker 3>with you here for the next thirty minutes until we

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<v Speaker 3>hand things over to the Petrols. Some money show. Eight

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<v Speaker 3>six six ninet eighty seven two five seventy eight six

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<v Speaker 3>six nine eighty seven two five seventy. The Dodgers at

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<v Speaker 3>one point had a five game winning streak. They won

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<v Speaker 3>the first two games of this series in Milwaukee. A

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<v Speaker 3>first place Milwaukee Brewers team, by the way, and a

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<v Speaker 3>really good team that's very good late in games, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is more obvious than the last two days where

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<v Speaker 3>they've come back and beat the Dodgers. Today. They do

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<v Speaker 3>it with three runs in the eighth inning against Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>Hudson as the Dodgers fall apart late and lose today

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<v Speaker 3>six to four. They split the four game series with

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<v Speaker 3>the Brewers, but when they split games, they're losing in

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<v Speaker 3>the standings. As the lead is getting smaller and smaller,

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<v Speaker 3>as the Dodgers now have a two game lead over

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<v Speaker 3>both the Diamondbacks and the Padres in the NL West,

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers said at seventy one and fifty one, the

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<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks and Padres are both sixty nine and fifty three,

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<v Speaker 3>two games back in the loss column, two games back

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<v Speaker 3>in the win column. As the Dodgers played today, the

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<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks and Padres are both idle. So the Dodgers just

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<v Speaker 3>lose a half game. So a two game lead now

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<v Speaker 3>in the division and down the stretch they come. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a Dodger fan, buckle up because it is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be an interesting run for the Dodgers the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of August September and going into postseason play, as

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers right now find themselves with some question marks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the biggest question mark the Dodgers have

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<v Speaker 3>is the bullpen, and I bring it up for this reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hudson's got a lot of innings underneath him right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And today Daniel Hudson gave up three runs. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not reacting in the moment, oh no, But look at

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<v Speaker 3>his numbers. Fifty one innings now or fifty innings pitched

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<v Speaker 3>for Daniel Hudson. Last year he had twenty seven to

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<v Speaker 3>third combined with the year before. Because he's been hurt

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<v Speaker 3>for the last year and a half leg issues. In

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one, Daniel Hudson pitched to combine fifty two innings.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gotten to that point now where he matched twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one already here on June or August fifteenth. The

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers need to find more arms down there in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at what's coming. Maybe Bruce Dargradole, Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>Brazier certainly is going to be added to this bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend in the Saint Louis series. Blake Trining again.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of miles on that arm and that body.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been taxed this year. He's on the injured list

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<v Speaker 3>right now. But the Dodgers look at this bullpen and

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<v Speaker 3>They've had a lot of arms being used and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of miles put on these arms this season. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reason is starting pitching has just not gotten deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting pitching has failed to go deep into games on

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<v Speaker 3>a consistent basis. When you've got starters going three innings,

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<v Speaker 3>four innings, pitching into the fifth and asking your bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>to get twelve outs, to get fifteen outs, to get

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen outs in a game, and do it on a

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<v Speaker 3>daily basis, You're asking these guys to pitch a lot

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<v Speaker 3>out of the bullpen. Accountability for the starting pitching, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's taxed the bullpen, And that to me is

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<v Speaker 3>a problem because it's August fifteenth, and I see a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of innings underneath their belt, and I look at

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<v Speaker 3>what's coming to help this Dodgers team. Is it going

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<v Speaker 3>to be enough? I think the biggest answer to this problem,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it really is the Dodgers' biggest problem

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<v Speaker 3>left to get him down the stretch and into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dodgers are gonna need to get more out of

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<v Speaker 3>in innings out of every single starter moving forward. Jack

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<v Speaker 3>Flaherty today, ninety three pitches through five innings. You could

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<v Speaker 3>have maybe thrown them back out there in the sixth

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<v Speaker 3>to face the heart of the lineup. Mitchell Contreras adamis

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<v Speaker 3>for Milwaukee. Maybe he gets them out, Maybe he can

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<v Speaker 3>get three more outs for the bullpen and make it

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<v Speaker 3>pitchers to get at least five, I mean minimum five

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<v Speaker 3>now moving forward, because this bullpen to me looks tired.

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<v Speaker 3>This bull bullpen to me, I mean look at Evan

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips as an example. Evan Phillips, the slider doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>on the mountain late in a game, and how tough

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<v Speaker 3>not look like the same Evan Phillips. These guys are

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<v Speaker 3>getting older, and more innings put on these arms because

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<v Speaker 3>of the lack of ability of starting pitchers to go

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<v Speaker 3>deep has run this Dodger bullpen into the ground. It

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<v Speaker 3>just has. And the Dodgers are a first place team,

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<v Speaker 3>They're a team clinging on the division right now. Seventy

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<v Speaker 3>one wins is fantastic, But I look at this team

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<v Speaker 3>if they were if they were a car, they'd be

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<v Speaker 3>almost running out of gas with their bullpen. Are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to have enough to get through the stretch run

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<v Speaker 3>and two October? The starting pitching is gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>be better. And with River Ryan going down, the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 3>now need to find another starter tomorrow. Is it Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Robleski who's gonna go out and pitch for the Dodge?

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<v Speaker 3>It can't be a bullpen game. There's no way they

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<v Speaker 3>can go a bullpen game tomorrow, not after the bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>had to pitch the last two games. Land and Next

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<v Speaker 3>saved their rear end by pitching four innings the other

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<v Speaker 3>day in Milwaukee and not having to go to anybody

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<v Speaker 3>out of the bullpen. But now back to back games,

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<v Speaker 3>Four and a third innings yesterday they had to pitch

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<v Speaker 3>combined today the Dodgers' bullpen had to come in and

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<v Speaker 3>pitch the final four innings. Eventually, you can look down

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<v Speaker 3>the arms they've had to piece it together with different

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<v Speaker 3>players that they've picked up. Honeywell, they picked off of

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<v Speaker 3>waivers from the Pittsburgh Pirates to pitch against the Tigers

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<v Speaker 3>right before the All Star break. Brent Honeywell wasn't on

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<v Speaker 3>anybody radar, and all of a sudden he's come in

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<v Speaker 3>and been a much needed arm out of that bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>to help out the relievers on the back end. But

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<v Speaker 3>today you saw I tire Daniel Hudson, to my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hudson that just didn't have the bite, didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the control. And they're gonna need to get better starting

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<v Speaker 3>pitching moving forward. Eight sixty six nine eight seven two

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<v Speaker 3>five seventy. No Mookie Bets in the starting lineup today.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks different, It certainly does. And and Mookie, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that is gonna have to play every day moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he missed what forty some odd games, and

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Roberts wanted to get him off his feet today

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<v Speaker 3>and not play four days in a row and get

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<v Speaker 3>him ready for the next the next series in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know his body, I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 3>my best guys out there, not second guessing him. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe Mookie gets out there and plays today,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know he's he's still coming back, but Mookie

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<v Speaker 3>is a freak athlete. Mookie bets can do anything. And

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<v Speaker 3>to me, Mookie Betts's got to be in the lineup

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<v Speaker 3>every day, and I think moving forward, he will be

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<v Speaker 3>in the lineup every day. Today a day off to

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<v Speaker 3>start the game, and the Dodgers lineup just looked different.

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<v Speaker 3>It did show. Hey, o Tani one for five today,

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<v Speaker 3>put the ball in play, only one strikeout. But don't

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<v Speaker 3>look now, he's now hitting closer to two ninety than

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<v Speaker 3>he is three hundred. That slug starting to come down.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dodgers today put the ball in play, but hit

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<v Speaker 3>it right at guys. They had ten hits out hitting

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee again for the second straight game, but for the

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<v Speaker 3>second straight game, can't hang on to a lead. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>it was the defense getting away. Today it was Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>Hudson in the bullpen letting them down. The Dodgers going

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<v Speaker 3>forward are going to have to get better outings from

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<v Speaker 3>their starters, deeper outings from their starters, because the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, looks taxed five seven. It's goad to the phones.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start things off with Garrett and Portway Niemi check

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<v Speaker 3>it in here on Dodger Talk on this Thursday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>After a rough one, Dodgers lose six to four to

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<v Speaker 3>the Brewers. What's up, Garrett, mister Tim, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna assume could be better?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you're correct, Yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, okay, so I'll get right to it. The eighth inning,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, I'm usually the one on the

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<v Speaker 4>other end of the Dave Roberts is the breezing Vollbar

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<v Speaker 4>problems saying guys that players got to play the game.

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<v Speaker 4>But just to your opinion, case that eighth inning, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he couldn't find the strike zone, so he walks the

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<v Speaker 4>first two guys. That's no big deal, But there was

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<v Speaker 4>nobody up in the bullpen n till he'd already given up

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<v Speaker 4>a run. And to your point you just made, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to give these relievers a break. And we're typically

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<v Speaker 4>the ones that don't let the starters work through your problems,

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<v Speaker 4>but we let the relievers give the game away. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be hysterical, but I think you

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<v Speaker 4>got the statup yesterday. I listen to the last Yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>show too, three and forty going into the eighth inning

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<v Speaker 4>with with losing or being in the eighth inning.

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<v Speaker 3>That was three and forty two. Now one day he

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<v Speaker 3>had that number.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's why I'm calling, right, I have vacillated, not

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<v Speaker 4>even calling. I'm like, this is one game, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>not one game anymore. We we have given away so

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<v Speaker 4>many games in the eighth and ninth inning, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was fascinating and fought back on some callers

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<v Speaker 4>a few weeks back when someone says we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a closer, I think we'd start very evident. We have him,

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<v Speaker 4>we just do not use him as one Michael Kobek,

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<v Speaker 4>we traded for him. What are we doing? We need

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<v Speaker 4>some stability in that eighth and ninth inning. We just

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<v Speaker 4>don't have it. And as much as I love Daniel

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<v Speaker 4>Hudson man He's had a career, he just doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have that outpitch every game. And it's we

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<v Speaker 4>should have had someone backing him up when we saw

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't have it in the first three in the

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<v Speaker 4>first three batters, is my point. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 4>really had a point calling, and I think I just

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<v Speaker 4>meant to say, like, you brought up a good point

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday and today it read it's over ahead again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I appreciate it, Garrett, thanks for that. Uh, Dodgers

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<v Speaker 3>three and forty two when trailing after the eighth inning,

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<v Speaker 3>two because of that, when trailing after the eighth inning,

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<v Speaker 3>they are in the eighth inning on they are three

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<v Speaker 3>and forty two. That's the number Rick Monday hat. So

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<v Speaker 3>three runs in the eighth inning. You talk about a

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<v Speaker 3>through issues. And that's a baseball issue. That's not the

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<v Speaker 3>Teams are so quick to go to the bullpens. And

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<v Speaker 3>with that being said, you're right today Alex Vessia pretty

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the bullpen to face Sanchez, Hoskins, Frelick and

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out Bessia struggled held on to the lead, but

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<v Speaker 3>got days off coming. It's not like the All Star

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<v Speaker 3>Break is coming. It's not like they've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>The way it is now, the Dodgers have got TBD tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Glasnell on Saturday, and you can probably pencil in

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<v Speaker 3>then Clayton Kershaw on Sunday. Hey, roll the dice. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what Clayton Kershaw we're gonna get moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>It's game to game? Is it the good one? Is

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<v Speaker 3>know because we don't have enough sample size yet. After

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<v Speaker 3>six nine eighty seven two five seventy. JB Louisiana is

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<v Speaker 3>next up here on Dodge Talk. Welcome, JB. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>checking in. We got to JB. Go ahead, JB, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on the air, all right, Jabi, I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>you back on a hold. We appreciate you checking in

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<v Speaker 3>from the Bayou. Let's go to Nick and San Diego

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<v Speaker 3>is next up here on Dodger Talk. After the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 3>blow a lead in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Nick? Not too good. I'm not happy about the last

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<v Speaker 6>two games. You know, I'm starting to call calling Roberts

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<v Speaker 6>insteads the manager. I'm calling the mismanager. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I understand all the players love him. You

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<v Speaker 6>know he's good with the media, and but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not a strategist, that's for sure. He leads to

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<v Speaker 6>too long or not long enough. Either way, it is

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<v Speaker 6>never the right way. You say you're talking about Copech

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<v Speaker 6>coming in, find a harder lineup. No, Kopex should be

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<v Speaker 6>a closure period.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you got to hang on to that lead

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<v Speaker 3>at that point, I appreciate the phone call. Nick. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to hang on to that lead. In the sixth inning,

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<v Speaker 3>it's four to three and you got the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>the lineup coming in in a Milwaukee Brewers team that's

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<v Speaker 3>top two in baseball and comeback wins. You need to

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<v Speaker 3>put a zero up against the heart of the lineup

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<v Speaker 3>in there in the sixth and if Dave Roberts is

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<v Speaker 3>looking down the bullpen into what he got, Michael Copec's

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<v Speaker 3>your best option if he goes to Vessia or he

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<v Speaker 3>goes to somebody else besides Michael Kopek. Everybody's calling right

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<v Speaker 3>now and said, why don't you go to Copek when

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<v Speaker 3>you got the heart of the Brewers lineup coming up?

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<v Speaker 3>He did that. Kopek put up a zero. Then it's

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<v Speaker 3>on Alex Vessi to come in and put up a zero.

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<v Speaker 3>In the seventh inning, he walked the tightrope and did

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<v Speaker 3>not before walking the first two batters. And then it's

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<v Speaker 3>given to Daniel Hudson who again starting to rack up

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<v Speaker 3>those innings and put a lot of miles on that

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<v Speaker 3>body that hasn't been out there for the lot pull

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<v Speaker 3>out the greater part of the last two years because

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<v Speaker 3>of injuries. Now I don't know who was shut down.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hear from Dave Roberts after our break here, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the options may not been in there for

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Roberts to go to eight sixty six, nine eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>two five seventy. Alex Vesia throws twenty seven pitches today

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hudson blows the game and throws twenty pitches. Are

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<v Speaker 3>Vessie and Hudson now down for Saint Louis series? They're

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<v Speaker 3>not pitching tomorrow. Can they come back and pitch on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 3>Or are they done until Sunday? So now you've got

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<v Speaker 3>two less arms you can go to at least for

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<v Speaker 3>the series open tomorrow in Saint Louis. We'll take a break,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll come back, we'll get to your phone calls. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear from the manager. Dave Roberts. I'm just as frustrated

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<v Speaker 3>with you, But I look at the Dodger bullpen and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to get a little worried. Aging arms and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of innings. A lot has been asked for

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<v Speaker 3>this Dodger's bullfit because the starter's inabilities to go deep

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<v Speaker 3>into games, and it's not just a Dodger problem. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a baseball program a problem. And I got a story

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<v Speaker 3>for you as well. Major League Baseball maybe coming up

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<v Speaker 3>with a plan to fix this problem because starters just

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<v Speaker 3>don't go deep anymore. Eight six, nine, seven two five

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<v Speaker 3>seventy Dodgers losing Milwaukee six for the final. They're leading.

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<v Speaker 3>The division has shrunken down to two games. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>two games up now on the Padres and the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to your phone calls player from Dave Roberts

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers losing Milwaukee six to four. They were down three

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<v Speaker 3>to nothing, tied, it took the lead, Daniel Hudson gave

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<v Speaker 3>it away in the eighth India with three runs as

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<v Speaker 3>the Brewers win. It's six to four. Coming up. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear from Dave Roberts, so also gonna tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball is gonna maybe implement in a few

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<v Speaker 3>years as far as starting pitching requirements. Let's go back

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<v Speaker 3>out to the phones. Rudy and Baldon Park is next

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<v Speaker 3>up on Dodger Talk. How you doing ruddy right?

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<v Speaker 7>Guys?

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<v Speaker 5>Do it?

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for taking a call. Sure I hear some Congress

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<v Speaker 7>calling and talking about the starting pitcher bitching. I know

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<v Speaker 7>we don't have a lot of good I mean they

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<v Speaker 7>don't go along like before, but the boopin the booping

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<v Speaker 7>being weak for a while already. These are not the

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<v Speaker 7>first or second time they do it. They do it

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<v Speaker 7>in Detroit, they did it yesterday, They've done it other times.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, is it a bitching coach or do you

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<v Speaker 7>think they warn or you think their bullpen is getting

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<v Speaker 7>too old? Because before we used to have a good bullpen.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of aging arms down there, appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 3>and injuries have hit this Dodgers team. You're you're counting

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<v Speaker 3>on trying in Brazier, Hudson, I mean, uh, Vesia, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys aren't spring chickens. You know, they're all over

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<v Speaker 3>the age of thirty. These are guys, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>them past the age of thirty five and have battled

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<v Speaker 3>injuries the last couple of years and missed significant time,

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<v Speaker 3>and now you're asking to come back and do a

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<v Speaker 3>full workload. It's tough. You're seeing guys hit walls. Alex

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<v Speaker 3>Vessia did and seem to be pitching better the last

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<v Speaker 3>week or so. Daniel Hudson, maybe he's hit that wall.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned. He's over fifty innings now for the for

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<v Speaker 3>the season. He didn't have fifty innings combined the last

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<v Speaker 3>two years because of injuries. Jimmy and Santa Clarinas. Next up,

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<v Speaker 3>you're on Dodge Talk. Jimmy, how you doing good?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Tim?

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks again, I appreciate it. I just you know, we

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<v Speaker 8>got we gotta get a hitting back. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 8>need to score at least five or six runs a game. So,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean the pitch has been all right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I say, check clarerty in Persian. But you know that

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, appreciate it, Jimmy. They had ten hits today.

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<v Speaker 3>They out hit the Milwaukee Brewers the last two nights.

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<v Speaker 3>Defense threw it away for the Dodgers last night late

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<v Speaker 3>and they lose to the Brewers. Today, the bullpen gives

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<v Speaker 3>it up a bullpen that has gassed, the bullpen that

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to get is if starting pitching goes longer

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<v Speaker 3>and Major League Baseball. Today ESPN a report that Major

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<v Speaker 3>League Baseball is considering a six inning minimum for starting pitchers. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>before you get too excited or too upset about this,

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<v Speaker 3>anytime there's a rule change, like the pitch clock or

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<v Speaker 3>anything that they implement Baseball, they have to start it

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<v Speaker 3>down the minor leagues. The robowump the computerized Baseball umpiring system,

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<v Speaker 3>it's being used in the mind of these right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still another year away from being implemented, at least

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<v Speaker 3>in Major League Baseball, so it has to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>go through its trials and errors and test runs at

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<v Speaker 3>independent ball in the minor leagues before it actually gets

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<v Speaker 3>to the major leagues. So this would still be a

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<v Speaker 3>few years away. But Major League Baseball's thinking is starters

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<v Speaker 3>just don't go long anymore. It's very rare that you

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<v Speaker 3>get a starting pitcher to go past the fifth inning.

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<v Speaker 3>The average is five and a third innings. So right

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<v Speaker 3>now they would have it at mandate that a starter

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<v Speaker 3>has to go six innings and the only ways you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't go six innings is if the pitcher got hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>you give up more than four runs in a game.

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<v Speaker 3>And what is the third rule. There's a third rule

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<v Speaker 3>that major League Baseball four throw one hundred pitches, give

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<v Speaker 3>up four more earned runs, or you get injured. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are the only way a starting pitcher would be able

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<v Speaker 3>to come out before six innings. You get to one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred innings, one hundred pitches, you give up four more

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<v Speaker 3>un runs, or you get hurt. And the caveat is

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<v Speaker 3>if you get hurt, you can't just say, oh, my

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<v Speaker 3>guy's hurt, I'm taking them out of the no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>The injury has to involve a stent on the il

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid a kind of manipulation of that rule. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is what Baseball is thinking about, and if they

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<v Speaker 3>did implement it have to be agreed with the Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>Players Association, and it's still years down the road because

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<v Speaker 3>that's how things work. Again. You have to roll it

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<v Speaker 3>out slow, six eating minimum, throw one hundred pitches, give

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<v Speaker 3>up more earned runs, or get injured. Are the only

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<v Speaker 3>three ways and exceptions that a pitcher can come out

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<v Speaker 3>of a game. I kind of like it. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you have to loosen up the pitch clock a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit to help out with that, because now we're really

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<v Speaker 3>just taxing starting pitchers and rushing them. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like the framework of where they're going. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they'll tinker with it a little bit. Certainly the Players

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<v Speaker 3>Association is going to push back, but I like the

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<v Speaker 3>framework of that. I like the idea and thinking a

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<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball to implement a six inning minimum for

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitchers. Again, it's going to be down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to build up minor leaguers to do what

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<v Speaker 3>you got test run. It's it's not just gonna roll

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<v Speaker 3>out next year. So it's it's down the line. But

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<v Speaker 3>something major League Baseball is kicking the tires on Ken

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<v Speaker 3>in Newport Beach next up here on Dodger Talk. How

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<v Speaker 3>you doing Ken?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 5>Tim? So you know, I've had issues with Roberts handling

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<v Speaker 5>of pitchers for a long time, going only back to

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<v Speaker 5>World Series in Kershaw leaving them too long. The last

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<v Speaker 5>couple of years in playoffs a perfect example of Bueler

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<v Speaker 5>gave up four runs, four walks, and four innings, and

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<v Speaker 5>he has an era in the minor leagues of six

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<v Speaker 5>point fifty and six. In the majors, he should have

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<v Speaker 5>been out of there when you could see he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have any ability to throw strikes. Now I understand what

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying about Kopex. He is the single best guy

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<v Speaker 5>that got out of the pen. The problem with using

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<v Speaker 5>him in the six is that Dodgers are losing games

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<v Speaker 5>in the eighth and ninth and they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of the lineup in the eighth inning. But their

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<v Speaker 5>pitchers are so bad these days coming out of the pen.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd rather see Cope Prits be your closer so that

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<v Speaker 5>you can then figure out how to use your other

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<v Speaker 5>guys in the regulatings. But unfortunately we gotta watch this

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<v Speaker 5>thing because you look at what Arizona and San Diego

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<v Speaker 5>is doing. They're scoring seven, eight to nine runs a game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>getting scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I don't think they're going to maintain that pace.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it, we've got to run, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't think the Padres and the Diamondbacks keep up that

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<v Speaker 3>offensive face. There's just no way they can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>the manager, Dave Roberts and what he had to say postgame.

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<v Speaker 9>Dave, how do you process a game like this and specifically,

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<v Speaker 9>how do you process the way the eighth inning went

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<v Speaker 9>for you guys?

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<v Speaker 10>The eighth inning, obviously, I felt really good about having

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<v Speaker 10>Huddy start the eighth and I think he just, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>from the first hitter made a mistake with Cheurio and

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<v Speaker 10>in a one run ball game, gave up the pull

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<v Speaker 10>side double and then you're trying to manage that run.

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<v Speaker 10>Then he gives up the unfortunate walked to Mitchell, and

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<v Speaker 10>then even after that, he gets a ground ball that

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<v Speaker 10>was a double play ball that just unfortunately hit him

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<v Speaker 10>and it was right at Gavin. It's a double play ball,

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<v Speaker 10>and I think later on the inning another ball hit him,

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<v Speaker 10>the black ball just to Keyk's left, so we couldn't

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<v Speaker 10>turn to there and fortunate enough to get an out.

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<v Speaker 10>So it just kind of went awry that inning. But

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<v Speaker 10>you know, it's one of those things that happens, but

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<v Speaker 10>very uncharacteristic of Huddy.

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<v Speaker 9>As far as the offense goes, they gifted you some

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<v Speaker 9>runs with some poor defense. And how did you see

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<v Speaker 9>the offense today?

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<v Speaker 10>I thought, offensively, I like the approach. I thought we

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<v Speaker 10>hit to all fields. I don't know how many times

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<v Speaker 10>we struck out, but it just seemed like we were

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<v Speaker 10>taking good at bats. I've got some big hits, and

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<v Speaker 10>so yeah, I liked it. I thought we had enough

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<v Speaker 10>to win a ball game.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Dave Roberts talking about the eighth inning Daniel Hudson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>some tough look balls that go off the foot of

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hudson, certainly, but you know, he wasn't getting swinging

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<v Speaker 3>missus and he was struggling to get ahead in the count.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Vesi in the seventh inning also struggle with his

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<v Speaker 3>pitching and the Dodgers' bullpen falters, and the Dodgers give

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<v Speaker 3>up their game in Milwaukee and they get the split,

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<v Speaker 3>splitting those four games with the Brewers, who are at

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<v Speaker 3>first placed team in the NL Central and who knows, Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>they very well see them again come October. But the

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers got themselves a fight now, two game leading the division.

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<v Speaker 3>Padres and Diamondbacks both off today, so they are just

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<v Speaker 3>now two games up when they started the day two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half. They pick up a half game on

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers, and the Dodgers now will get ready to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Saint Louis for a three game series against

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<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals. That's gonna do it for Dodger Talk. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up next, Petrows some money show. They got a big

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<v Speaker 3>show until seven o'clock lined up for you. Great sports

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<v Speaker 3>talk to launching pad Ryan Dempster on a football talking

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Take your mind off this tough one for

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers. They blow a lead in Milwaukee, let this

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<v Speaker 3>one get away, and they're leading out down in two

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<v Speaker 3>in the division. Ryan Hudson the winning relie. Daniel Hudson

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<v Speaker 3>the loss for the Dodgers in relief, Dodgers losing six

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<v Speaker 3>to four. We're back at it tomorrow from Saint Louis

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