Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. May seventh, twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 1: day that the cardinals have sequestered to pick a new
Speaker 1: pope there in the Sistine Chapel the Vatican. Very dramatic, Well,
Speaker 1: the very dramatic day.
Speaker 2: Pakistan's National Security Council has said it has authorized the
Speaker 2: country's armed forces to avenge strikes by India. India launched
Speaker 2: some air strikes today and what they referred to as
Speaker 2: Operations Sindor. India says they were targeting terrorist infrastructure in
Speaker 2: Pakistan after an attack on tourists in the Kashmir region
Speaker 2: back on April twenty second. Pakistan says the strikes had
Speaker 2: killed and injured civilians and could including at least one
Speaker 2: woman and one child at a mosque. Pakistan said that
Speaker 2: the strikes were acts of war under international law.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are taking on the Marlins in Miami today
Speaker 1: First Pitch at one. Listen to all Dodgers games on
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Speaker 1: Sports and book.
Speaker 3: Look at that. Look at what the sun is out
Speaker 3: just like that?
Speaker 4: What's the patron saint of the weather.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 5: Hey, Gary Shannon, it's definite, you know. I love that
Speaker 5: guy's pick up amant Saint Brown. I'm from the Detroit
Speaker 5: area and I'm a huge Lions fan. That hadn't been said.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go and pick Saint Nicholas because who doesn't
Speaker 5: love sat Nick?
Speaker 3: Which I think there's two. Well, I think he's referring
Speaker 3: to this, oh Santa.
Speaker 6: Santa, and it's gotta be the Saint Bonaventure Hotel. I
Speaker 6: love staying there. Is so comfy, good enough for anybody,
Speaker 6: especially your same.
Speaker 3: Hotels. Pretty bye bye now, bye bye, now, thank you?
Speaker 3: Who cares? Move on? We're not all Catholics out here.
Speaker 3: Every day it's religion talk, God talk, Jesus talk. Enough
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 4: Every day?
Speaker 1: I'm going to say a couple Hail marys for her.
Speaker 1: When I get home.
Speaker 4: It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 3: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 4: And when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing their lollipops
Speaker 4: here we.
Speaker 5: Got the real problem is that our.
Speaker 6: Leaders are done.
Speaker 3: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere so.
Speaker 4: That you train the squaw.
Speaker 3: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
Speaker 3: what has been.
Speaker 7: You know, avans have always been gone at President, They're
Speaker 7: not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4: Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch
Speaker 4: They're all caunona.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, this is going to be a big
Speaker 2: week when it comes to tariffs. The President has officially
Speaker 2: said that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant is going to lead
Speaker 2: the negotiations on trade with China. This announcement is that Bessant,
Speaker 2: the Treasury Secretary, meets with Chinese officials in Switzerland this weekend.
Speaker 2: He has been doing other trade negotiations in Asia as
Speaker 2: part of his job as Secretary of the Treasury. But
Speaker 2: this is said to be proof that Trump takes this
Speaker 2: whole thing very seriously. Bessant is one of those guys
Speaker 2: who I would say it's a rare occasion in which
Speaker 2: he is widely perceived as the most serious and the
Speaker 2: most savvy among cabinet members in terms of experience in
Speaker 2: the world in which he is now supposed to be
Speaker 2: an administrator. I guess it's fact very well respected by
Speaker 2: people on Wall Street. This is also it also answers
Speaker 2: questions about who is going to be the point person
Speaker 2: if you don't have President didn't she talking to President Trump?
Speaker 2: Who is the highest level person that they can talk to?
Speaker 2: And Scott Best is not a giant surprise. The Treasury
Speaker 2: Secretary would be the guy.
Speaker 1: You can't send in Marco Rubio for crying out loud,
Speaker 1: You've tasked with a number of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose there was a question. Maybe it
Speaker 2: could have been Howard Lutnik, who's Commerce Secretary.
Speaker 1: Sands full with the complete agenda of tariffs right state side. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know we are stepping up our
Speaker 1: intelligence gathering efforts where you're thinking China, Pakistan, Pakistan, Russia,
Speaker 1: North Korea, Greenland.
Speaker 3: Oh yes.
Speaker 2: Several high ranking officials under the Director of National Intelligence
Speaker 2: have issued a collection emphasis me message to the intelligence
Speaker 2: agency heads this week. The Wall Street Journal says they
Speaker 2: were directed to learn more about Greenland's independence move What
Speaker 2: is this.
Speaker 3: About Greenland and their independence.
Speaker 2: Tell me more and attitudes on American resource extraction from
Speaker 2: the island.
Speaker 3: Can we keep taking their stuff? Or they pissed about that?
Speaker 2: This message a collection emphasis message helps set priorities for
Speaker 2: these different intelligence agencies. This went to the agencies including CIA,
Speaker 2: the DIA, the NSA, and underscores the apparent commitment to
Speaker 2: seeking control of Greenland.
Speaker 1: We're going to learn a lot about snowshoes, snowshoes, ice pits.
Speaker 3: Where we're going. There are no roads because there are
Speaker 3: no roads.
Speaker 4: Because it's just ice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Danish embassy in Washington did not comment on this
Speaker 2: revelation from the Wall Street Journal. The Prime Minister of
Speaker 2: Greenland also didn't immediately respond for a request for a comment.
Speaker 2: There are fifty six thousand people on Greenland right now,
Speaker 2: fifty six thousand. We could have dossier's on all of
Speaker 2: them by clothes of business today. The idea that we
Speaker 2: need to have some sort of intelligence community wide program
Speaker 2: to dig deeper into Greenland sea, it's a little silly overboard.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you needed another sign that ozempic was
Speaker 1: sweeping the nation and the GLP ones actually just overall
Speaker 1: weight watchers is filing for bankruptcy.
Speaker 3: Oh man, what an end of an era, an era
Speaker 3: that spans.
Speaker 2: We all know people who have done with forever.
Speaker 1: My mother was like a lifetime member at one point,
Speaker 1: which makes no sense because she's four pounds.
Speaker 3: Your mother was, yes, oh she's thinking.
Speaker 2: I don't know my mom was, but I think she
Speaker 2: did more for the There was like a group of
Speaker 2: neighbor ladies though, so the friends went and it was
Speaker 2: just sort of.
Speaker 1: But the whole idea of I can eat this egg
Speaker 1: it's only one point or whatever is ridiculous, right, which
Speaker 1: is why I, uh, you know, look longingly at that
Speaker 1: hot dog on the TV screen that you saw.
Speaker 4: Just so you know the hot dog is gone.
Speaker 2: You still have that look in your eye, but that
Speaker 2: hot dog has been gone for an hour. Gary and
Speaker 2: Shannon will continue points. Do you think that loaded.
Speaker 3: Hot dog was?
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Speaker 4: Gary Shannon.
Speaker 7: My favorite saint is the female saint of perpetual Pleasure,
Speaker 7: Jiel's Saint John.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I don't even know who that is. You
Speaker 3: would recognize her if you looked her up. I can't. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's right, I forgot you have no connection to the
Speaker 3: outside work. I don't. I am just raw dog.
Speaker 4: I shall be your filter.
Speaker 3: What does she look like? Is she a sexy lady,
Speaker 3: old blonde? Ah?
Speaker 4: Am, I right, I think that's the Jill.
Speaker 3: What era are we speaking of?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I would say that she's probably actress, model, actress, Jill
Speaker 2: Saint John.
Speaker 4: How come I can't find her? Jill Saint John? There
Speaker 4: she is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me see a picture.
Speaker 2: She's now in her eighties, but that's a beautiful, old
Speaker 2: old picture of her, very young, probably twenties.
Speaker 1: So all right, wonderful well Weight Watchers has been around
Speaker 1: for sixty two years.
Speaker 3: Can you believe that?
Speaker 1: It was founded in New York City by Jean Nidich,
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur who had shed seventy two pounds by adhering
Speaker 1: to a strict diet with the support of her friends.
Speaker 1: She charged dieters a fee to attend periodic meetings where
Speaker 1: they were encouraged to keep track of what they ate
Speaker 1: and motivate one another.
Speaker 3: My mom used to do that.
Speaker 1: She had a yellow legal pad and she would write
Speaker 1: down everything she ate in the calories every day. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's kind of a common thing
Speaker 1: to know what you know, what you're putting in your mouth?
Speaker 3: How much know what's in it kind of thing.
Speaker 2: The A lot of apps do that now too. I
Speaker 2: mean you you keep track of it. I think they're
Speaker 2: getting to the point where AI is allowing you to
Speaker 2: take pictures of your meal and then AI will kind
Speaker 2: of figure out what each thing was and then tell
Speaker 2: you so that it takes the work out of it,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, we're already lazy enough.
Speaker 3: Take a picture of a bloomin onion and it's like,
Speaker 3: go to the er. Your phone melts.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's an exercise regimen that goes along
Speaker 1: with the point system that quantified appropriate food portions. They
Speaker 1: did make a leap to a mobile app, a website
Speaker 1: and tried to kind of next generation themselves, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the ozepic and the waygov and the zep
Speaker 1: bound and all the other GLP ones to fight with.
Speaker 1: And now they because of that stiff competition, they filed
Speaker 1: for bankruptcy yesterday. They've got debt of more than one
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Does one who expand its business? Wait, we
Speaker 1: know bankruptcy doesn't mean it's the end of you it's
Speaker 1: a rebranding, but they've already been through this. They rebranded
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. The pendulum will swing, people will go back.
Speaker 1: It's been around for sixty two years.
Speaker 3: But again, I mean your point. When they started.
Speaker 2: Gene Needitch or the one who started it, she dropped
Speaker 2: more than seventy pounds by watching what she ate and
Speaker 2: being around friends, people who hold you accountable.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing, because you'd go to
Speaker 1: check in, right if I remember correctly, with these weight
Speaker 1: watchers meetings or whatever, you would go to check in,
Speaker 1: they would weigh you. And one of my girlfriends, her
Speaker 1: mom is in the lifetime program, so if she doesn't
Speaker 1: gain a pound, I think she it's free for her.
Speaker 1: The membership is free if you don't gain a pound. Really,
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. But I think it's
Speaker 1: that community of people that are kind of doing the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It is community place we hold each other accountable. Oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work all the time, but sometimes it does.
Speaker 4: When you tell me not to eat certain foods.
Speaker 1: I don't tell you not to eat certain food What
Speaker 1: if I told you not to eat Okay, you don't.
Speaker 3: Tell me not to eat certain foods. But you do.
Speaker 3: You do things like are you gonna eat all of
Speaker 3: that pizza? I do not say that. I give you
Speaker 3: a look that says that, let's be clear, you.
Speaker 4: Don't say it out loud.
Speaker 1: I look at you, I look down at the plate,
Speaker 1: and then I look back up at you. And that's
Speaker 1: how I use my words. I'm just kidding. You eat
Speaker 1: all the pizza you want. You couldn't gain weight, That's
Speaker 1: the thing. Certain people can gain weight like that. They
Speaker 1: can look at a piece a pizza and gain ten pounds.
Speaker 1: It's just the way certain people's body works.
Speaker 4: How much of this has you could?
Speaker 3: You could?
Speaker 1: You could eat three pizzas a day and be fine
Speaker 1: three pieces or pizzas because I'll go tempt me.
Speaker 4: How much of this also has to do with Oprah?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oprah was a big deal about that you with
Speaker 1: the with the wagon of the fat that she wheeled out,
Speaker 1: But she was also it's not it's it's very very
Speaker 1: hard to keep weight off, especially if your body wants
Speaker 1: to gain it.
Speaker 3: I mean it's very hard.
Speaker 1: In fact, like science will show if you lose a
Speaker 1: considerable amount of weight, like Jeane, the founder of weight Watchers,
Speaker 1: you're seventy two pounds. Your body is actually fighting to
Speaker 1: put that weight back on, like you're fighting the battle times.
Speaker 2: Too well, And it's it's the word when we talk
Speaker 2: about you going on a diet. Everybody has a diet.
Speaker 2: It's like everybody has an ethnicity. You are ethnic, you
Speaker 2: have a it's what goes into that diet. When people
Speaker 2: say they're on a diet, it always, always, It never
Speaker 2: made sense to.
Speaker 3: Me because you have to live that way.
Speaker 2: Even if your diet consists of iceberg, lettuce and pickles,
Speaker 2: that's your diet. If your diet is banana cream pie
Speaker 2: and Snickers bars and three two liters of soda every day,
Speaker 2: that's your diet. It's just not a good one.
Speaker 1: Well, it's what sustainable, right. You can do the iceberg,
Speaker 1: lettuce and pickle diet for a week and see results,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to do that forever.
Speaker 3: It's what's tenable.
Speaker 4: Lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Lifestyle, not I'm going to do this for two weeks.
Speaker 3: That never works.
Speaker 9: Hey, Gary Shannon my favorite saint. I know he was
Speaker 9: more known for what he did with the Bears, but
Speaker 9: it was Mike Ditka. Mike Ditka for sure, Snka. He
Speaker 9: was the only one ever to enter the NFL draft
Speaker 9: and trade every draft he had for one running back
Speaker 9: nam Ricky Waters, and then took the rest of the
Speaker 9: day off all the rest. Yeah, just an amazing move
Speaker 9: and it didn't really work.
Speaker 4: Out for him. But Dicka definitely my favorite saint.
Speaker 1: I think we're hurting as a nation right now. We
Speaker 1: are hurting as a nation. It's May. We are in
Speaker 1: dark days and everyone is making everything about football.
Speaker 4: Football comes back in July.
Speaker 1: I know the Chargers of the first game, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game up next.
Speaker 4: Justin Warsham is going to join us.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how to replace ourselves. Gotta start making babies. Hey,
Speaker 1: get do we have any baby making music? Elmer like
Speaker 1: music that we can play to get people to make babies.
Speaker 2: I was about to play something from Smokey Robinson, but
Speaker 2: I can't know.
Speaker 1: You can't play that. Elmer will find us our baby
Speaker 1: making music.
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Speaker 1: Really that makes me want to cry a specific choice.
Speaker 1: Like I said, sometimes tears are involved. You guys missed
Speaker 1: and I mean I wouldn't say you'd missed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. That's a better way to play it.
Speaker 1: The bullet I have bad news for Warriors fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Steph Perry is going to be out for lease the
Speaker 1: next three games because of because of that mild strain
Speaker 1: of his left hand string.
Speaker 5: It sucks.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry you're now a Warriors fan.
Speaker 10: No, I just I'd like basketball and the Clippers were eliminated.
Speaker 4: So you gave up in the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if you gave up on all Bay areas.
Speaker 7: Guys. So, my mom's Catholic and a couple of years
Speaker 7: ago she lost one of her hearing aids and I said, so,
Speaker 7: what did you do? And she said, well, I prayed
Speaker 7: to Saint Anthony. And I go, well, how does that go?
Speaker 7: And she goes, I pray, Tony, Tony, Tony, help me,
Speaker 7: help me, help me, Tony, Tony, Tony, help me, help
Speaker 7: me help me. And I asked her if she got
Speaker 7: her you're hearing aid back?
Speaker 4: And she went, what, No, she did? All right?
Speaker 7: Bye?
Speaker 1: Well he was able to hear her, was she could
Speaker 1: not hear them? There was a joke in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: He didn't find it. I didn't find it.
Speaker 3: It's still out there. It's flying around, it's in there.
Speaker 4: He just rushes the punch the punchline. It was what
Speaker 4: is that? What it was? Yeah? He said when she goes,
Speaker 4: what you know? Did you did it? Cure you're hearing?
Speaker 4: And she said what that should have been? He didn't
Speaker 4: have to keep going, and then but he did the
Speaker 4: No kid, it's hard.
Speaker 10: I listen, it's hard to tell jokes over the phone
Speaker 10: like that and you just know that you're possibly launching
Speaker 10: it out to millions.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: There's no feedback. Yeah, there's no immediate feed the first time.
Speaker 4: I'll be honest.
Speaker 10: The reason I started the podcast was because I'd done
Speaker 10: a morning radio when I first started as a comic,
Speaker 10: and it threw me because they weren't people who were
Speaker 10: laughing along. They were just letting me talk like while
Speaker 10: they were getting ready for the next thing. And it
Speaker 10: threw me way off my game because I'm like, nobody's reacting.
Speaker 10: So I was like, I have to practice this to
Speaker 10: get because it's a thing when you do morning radio.
Speaker 10: There's no audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if Stas is your board off and there
Speaker 1: is a high on drugs from the night before and
Speaker 1: just stares at you.
Speaker 3: For two hours or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's specific.
Speaker 2: Justin Worsham has joined us. We talk about parenting things.
Speaker 2: Human populations need two point seven children per woman, yep
Speaker 2: to reliably avoid extinction.
Speaker 4: So we gonna need you to pull your weight, Shannon.
Speaker 10: We need you to get it together. Tony helper to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they're talking about that.
Speaker 10: If we don't maintain an average birth rate per woman
Speaker 10: on the planet of two point seven children, then uh,
Speaker 10: then they're in the long term that could leave to
Speaker 10: an extinction of the species. In the more short term,
Speaker 10: what they're seeing a lot of is that family lines,
Speaker 10: which I love that they put it on like we're
Speaker 10: all royalty, like we care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody here like I am.
Speaker 4: I listen.
Speaker 10: I love my father, my grandfather, love all of them.
Speaker 10: But if I was the end of the worship, mat.
Speaker 3: Do you not need this line to continue in?
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: Just continue this.
Speaker 4: We're bring in.
Speaker 10: What do we bring it to the genetic pool realistically?
Speaker 10: I mean, I know I'm a good time, but I'm
Speaker 10: bringing a lot of high cholesterol, a lot of diabetes.
Speaker 10: I got near sighted as stigmatism. The preacher Gray like,
Speaker 10: we don't need that in the gre and you're the
Speaker 10: sperm that won.
Speaker 4: I was one on the top.
Speaker 10: Of the line as far as my father was bringing
Speaker 10: to the table back in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Garry said that.
Speaker 1: To me recently and it was eye opening. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: you at least one one race, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the.
Speaker 10: Race is the first race, came in first, and then
Speaker 10: it's just a series of seconds and fourth after that.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 4: The other thing that I thought.
Speaker 10: Was interesting is that they what do they say, more
Speaker 10: so already we have more females than males and they
Speaker 10: believe they're they're not good. Yeah, they've known for a
Speaker 10: long time that they think that that is supposed to
Speaker 10: account for just on known things, that having more women
Speaker 10: on the planet leads to obviously more people being made right,
Speaker 10: and so that there's some kind of evolutionary trend that
Speaker 10: does that. I also started looking at just kind of
Speaker 10: other data that I thought was interesting about birth rates,
Speaker 10: and it said trends in completed family size vary slightly
Speaker 10: by educational tainment. So this is from a study in
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two that found that in nineteen eighty women
Speaker 10: aged forty to forty four with a bachelor's degree or
Speaker 10: more had the lowest birth rate at two point two children,
Speaker 10: and women with a high school degree or less had
Speaker 10: the highest, at three point one to nine children, and
Speaker 10: that the same order persisted in twenty twenty two with
Speaker 10: a narrow range. So in twenty twenty two, women with
Speaker 10: a bachelor's degree had one point seven children and high
Speaker 10: school degree or less have two point one point four, which,
Speaker 10: with all due respect to anybody, I have some college
Speaker 10: I put on my application, so I would lump myself
Speaker 10: into this. This seems to be we are trending towards
Speaker 10: an idiocracy type situation where their whole premise of that
Speaker 10: movie was that people who should not be having children,
Speaker 10: we're the ones we're having more children.
Speaker 3: Was such a prescient film? Was it two thousand and five?
Speaker 4: I don't remember, to be honest.
Speaker 10: Macau and Hong Kong have the lowest fertility rates as
Speaker 10: of this year, at point sixty nine and point seventy
Speaker 10: four respectfully, and Chad, which is a country in northern
Speaker 10: Central Africa, has the highest at five point nine four
Speaker 10: children per woman.
Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, they average six kids per wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Somalia is at five point nine to one. Wow, Well,
Speaker 10: how many people do you know that are like, I'm not,
Speaker 10: I mean other than Chaman, Like, do you feel like
Speaker 10: I feel like there's more people that are not having kids.
Speaker 3: I have more friends now that aren't having kids.
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the thing. My kids have said they
Speaker 2: don't know about having kids, yeah, which is like, well,
Speaker 2: I thought you guys were kind of fun, Like I
Speaker 2: had a fun time. Why would you not want to
Speaker 2: have kids.
Speaker 10: That's a lot of pressure, like to put on yourself
Speaker 10: to think that you made me turn them off like
Speaker 10: I saw it?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of I don't want to money,
Speaker 1: uh you know, money, it's environment, environment, it's it's bringing
Speaker 1: the kids into what world or the whole bit.
Speaker 2: And I don't and I don't ever remember. I don't
Speaker 2: remember having those thoughts in my head about it now.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know why grant different world different times.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Internet ruined all of that because
Speaker 1: it opened our eyes to so much more, so much.
Speaker 3: More period to be afraid of, to be afraid of.
Speaker 1: And it's just expectation overwhelming, really is what it is.
Speaker 1: It was so much simpler when it was just your
Speaker 1: family and your friends and that was the unit. And
Speaker 1: people had kids and that was it, and your purview
Speaker 1: was your world around you. Really, and then you go
Speaker 1: to college, you meet some new people and then their
Speaker 1: their world opened you up to their world. Now the
Speaker 1: whole world is right in your pocket and it's overwhelming.
Speaker 2: Well, if you do plan to have kids, we have
Speaker 2: a new rule of effective parenting. Is this seven seven
Speaker 2: seven rules?
Speaker 4: I like this. That's exciting.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's also common sense.
Speaker 8: Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
Speaker 8: kfi AM six forty.
Speaker 3: How happy summer is making me?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: It's not summer.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Feels like summer because you've had a week and a half.
Speaker 3: Of it is glorious.
Speaker 10: Do you like get her out of a box? Like
Speaker 10: she's acting like she didn't see before ten am today?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was all overcast a cloudy like it's been the
Speaker 2: past few days. It was, but I mean she is
Speaker 2: very excited now. Look at her face.
Speaker 4: I like to talk about it.
Speaker 3: She's not.
Speaker 4: She can't hear us tending just to my left.
Speaker 2: Gary and Shannon kfi AM sixty Live Everywhere on the
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Justin Warsham has joined us. When we're talking parenting,
Speaker 2: the seven seven seven rule of effective parenting.
Speaker 10: Now, I did a parenting podcast for probably, what I
Speaker 10: want to say, at least seven years, somewhere in that range,
Speaker 10: maybe longer.
Speaker 4: Actually might have been ten. And I've never come.
Speaker 10: Across this rule, but it definitely parallels a lot of
Speaker 10: the advice I would get from like child development specialists
Speaker 10: and pediatricians, people that I talked to on the show
Speaker 10: Just Parenting, you know, authors, and so it is a
Speaker 10: seven seven seven rules, So it breaks down the different
Speaker 10: kind of generations of a childhood.
Speaker 4: So the first zero to.
Speaker 10: Seven years, the focus as a parent is on play,
Speaker 10: so your kids learn through having fun activities and interaction.
Speaker 10: And then from seven to fourteen is where it's more
Speaker 10: about teaching them lessons. So your interactions become more like coaching,
Speaker 10: and a lot of you know, can the way they
Speaker 10: I want to say lecture, but I'm sure that's not
Speaker 10: what kids want to hear. But I definitely know that's
Speaker 10: what I'm guilty of. And then from fourteen to twenty one,
Speaker 10: it becomes guiding where it's like and that's I feel like,
Speaker 10: even though my younger one is he'll be fourteen in
Speaker 10: the next month. But I've seen that transition where it's
Speaker 10: like when they become teenagers, you have to start and
Speaker 10: it's hard, but you have to start letting them do
Speaker 10: their own thing and kind of fail while they still
Speaker 10: have the safety net of home and hopefully you can
Speaker 10: just you point them. I spend a lot of time going,
Speaker 10: this is the direction I would go if I was
Speaker 10: you and your brain is telling you not to listen
Speaker 10: to it now, and you.
Speaker 4: Want to go one hundred n h way.
Speaker 10: And I was talking to my buddy yesterday about this,
Speaker 10: where I said, I go the thing my dad said
Speaker 10: to me when I was like ten, he goes, I said, like,
Speaker 10: I love you, and he goes, well, in a couple
Speaker 10: of years, you're gonna hate me. You're gonna think I'm
Speaker 10: an idiot and that you know everything, and we're going
Speaker 10: to fight a lot. Then you're gonna turn like twenty
Speaker 10: one twenty two and we'll go back to being buds again.
Speaker 10: And he was definitely right. And I've said my version
Speaker 10: of that that I said that to my kids, but
Speaker 10: I have a different version where I tried to better it,
Speaker 10: and I said, now that you've ventured this phase of
Speaker 10: your life. Your brain is going to tell you that
Speaker 10: I don't know what I'm talking about, or that I'm
Speaker 10: being mean to you, or whatever.
Speaker 4: I go.
Speaker 10: And I would like to ask that you ask yourself,
Speaker 10: why would this person who loves me a lot and
Speaker 10: just wants what is best for me do things to
Speaker 10: ruin my life? And if like genuinely try to see
Speaker 10: it from that perspective. And I don't know how often
Speaker 10: my kids do it, but I know that I don't
Speaker 10: fight with my sixteen year ol as much as I
Speaker 10: did when I fought with my dad, Like, we don't
Speaker 10: have those things.
Speaker 2: That's also a very advanced question for a kid. And
Speaker 2: I would also say, specifically for a boy, to ask
Speaker 2: him the point about that, because I don't. I would
Speaker 2: have never thought my parents tried to ruin my life.
Speaker 2: Every time they said no to something, they were they're
Speaker 2: ruining my life, and I never would have wrapped my
Speaker 2: head around the well, the point is they're trying to
Speaker 2: protect me from either hurting myself, hurting somebody else, hurting
Speaker 2: my future, you know, setting myself up for failure or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 4: I would be would be.
Speaker 10: I just felt like my dad was just so mean
Speaker 10: when I was a teenager, That's what I was. He
Speaker 10: was so mean, and I remember thinking I just wanted
Speaker 10: to be right, which is the other thing I told
Speaker 10: my kids. I said, when I was your age, I
Speaker 10: just want to be right once. And here's what I
Speaker 10: have to tell you. It's not going to happen like
Speaker 10: this is not it's not in the cars for you,
Speaker 10: but to miss every time. But I had, like, this
Speaker 10: is the sweetest thing. My son went on a date
Speaker 10: with a girl and they were talking and they were
Speaker 10: he one of the things he likes about her is
Speaker 10: that she's very close with her family, and family is
Speaker 10: very important to them, and he said he goes. Both
Speaker 10: of them said like, he goes. I couldn't imagine ever
Speaker 10: being mad at my parents because at like the lunch
Speaker 10: table they talk and a lot of the kids complain
Speaker 10: about their parents. And he was like and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 10: same thing. And again he could be sucking me a
Speaker 10: sucking up to me, or and it's working if he's manipulating,
Speaker 10: because I was like, oh, thanks man, yeah, he's totally
Speaker 10: thanks for thanks for ruining my You're very.
Speaker 3: Easy to manipulate.
Speaker 4: We have time to talk about that.
Speaker 10: That seems it just seems like a horrible time in
Speaker 10: a segment to drop that up. No, don't back metal,
Speaker 10: and that's say you made that up?
Speaker 4: No you did it, No, you did it. All jokes
Speaker 4: are based in truth.
Speaker 3: How would I know that? What am I ever trying
Speaker 3: to manipulate you?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 3: And it's working.
Speaker 4: Point proven? That was stupid. I don't want to be
Speaker 4: here anymore? Can we go?
Speaker 3: Am I ruining your life? He's a little bit okay.
Speaker 10: The sarcasm also isn't helping because it's not really sarcasm,
Speaker 10: it's just mean said with a sarcas tone.
Speaker 3: Oh that was hurtful.
Speaker 4: That was so acting. I did know.
Speaker 1: I am very sarcastic, but hurtful.
Speaker 10: Am I still hurting this? I can't remember now?
Speaker 4: John? Now you're better now, jesu lout. I just felt
Speaker 4: like I was Jedi my trick. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 4: like I was.
Speaker 8: I was so.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, stop it?
Speaker 4: Wait? Do you do it to me too?
Speaker 3: Did you guys ever get to the seven seven seventh things?
Speaker 7: What are you?
Speaker 3: I was playing connections?
Speaker 4: Oh, I rest my case.
Speaker 10: She also manipulated me about paying a quarter percent attention.
Speaker 3: I didn't remember hearing.
Speaker 4: She used all of her brain.
Speaker 3: But I don't.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I didn't hear you guys say focus on
Speaker 1: play and focus on teaching and all that you did.
Speaker 4: That was at the very beginning. When how did your
Speaker 4: connect four? What were you playing?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 1: I finished wordle in three? No, I think I finished
Speaker 1: it in four. But I'm onto connections now. Connection has
Speaker 1: been stuff you speak to.
Speaker 10: Her like immense strength and manipulation or my immense weakness
Speaker 10: and manipulation.
Speaker 3: Neither. I'm afraid to answer any of what you just said.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 10: No, No, I'm not lying. This is not a bit
Speaker 10: like I need to. I need to get to the bottom.
Speaker 1: Line everything you're manipulating with a woman.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 7: It?
Speaker 4: Dare you don't? They'll try to distract me with that.
Speaker 3: Mary and Joe.
Speaker 4: All right now I'm done. Now I'm mad. Hope you're happy.
Speaker 4: Have a great week. Everybody, go take a bath and down.
Speaker 3: I don't have any hysteric call.
Speaker 4: Take a bath, smile more. Thank you as always.
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