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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. May seventh, twenty twenty five, the

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<v Speaker 1>day that the cardinals have sequestered to pick a new

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<v Speaker 1>pope there in the Sistine Chapel the Vatican. Very dramatic, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the very dramatic day.

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan's National Security Council has said it has authorized the

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<v Speaker 2>country's armed forces to avenge strikes by India. India launched

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<v Speaker 2>some air strikes today and what they referred to as

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<v Speaker 2>Operations Sindor. India says they were targeting terrorist infrastructure in

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan after an attack on tourists in the Kashmir region

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<v Speaker 2>back on April twenty second. Pakistan says the strikes had

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<v Speaker 2>killed and injured civilians and could including at least one

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<v Speaker 2>woman and one child at a mosque. Pakistan said that

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<v Speaker 2>the strikes were acts of war under international law.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dodgers are taking on the Marlins in Miami today

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<v Speaker 1>Sports and book.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at that. Look at what the sun is out

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<v Speaker 3>just like that?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the patron saint of the weather.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Gary Shannon, it's definite, you know. I love that

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<v Speaker 5>guy's pick up amant Saint Brown. I'm from the Detroit

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<v Speaker 5>area and I'm a huge Lions fan. That hadn't been said.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go and pick Saint Nicholas because who doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>love sat Nick?

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<v Speaker 3>Which I think there's two. Well, I think he's referring

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<v Speaker 3>to this, oh Santa.

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<v Speaker 6>Santa, and it's gotta be the Saint Bonaventure Hotel. I

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<v Speaker 6>love staying there. Is so comfy, good enough for anybody,

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<v Speaker 6>especially your same.

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<v Speaker 3>Hotels. Pretty bye bye now, bye bye, now, thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares? Move on? We're not all Catholics out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day it's religion talk, God talk, Jesus talk. Enough

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<v Speaker 3>is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Every day?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say a couple Hail marys for her.

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<v Speaker 1>When I get home.

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<v Speaker 4>It's time for swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing their lollipops

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<v Speaker 4>here we.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the real problem is that our.

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<v Speaker 6>Leaders are done.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I'm not going anywhere so.

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<v Speaker 4>That you train the squaw.

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<v Speaker 3>I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by

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<v Speaker 3>what has been.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, avans have always been gone at President, They're

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<v Speaker 7>not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch

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<v Speaker 4>They're all caunona.

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<v Speaker 2>As you mentioned, this is going to be a big

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<v Speaker 2>week when it comes to tariffs. The President has officially

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<v Speaker 2>said that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant is going to lead

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<v Speaker 2>the negotiations on trade with China. This announcement is that Bessant,

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<v Speaker 2>the Treasury Secretary, meets with Chinese officials in Switzerland this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been doing other trade negotiations in Asia as

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<v Speaker 2>part of his job as Secretary of the Treasury. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is said to be proof that Trump takes this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing very seriously. Bessant is one of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>who I would say it's a rare occasion in which

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<v Speaker 2>he is widely perceived as the most serious and the

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<v Speaker 2>most savvy among cabinet members in terms of experience in

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<v Speaker 2>the world in which he is now supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>an administrator. I guess it's fact very well respected by

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<v Speaker 2>people on Wall Street. This is also it also answers

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<v Speaker 2>questions about who is going to be the point person

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have President didn't she talking to President Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the highest level person that they can talk to?

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<v Speaker 2>And Scott Best is not a giant surprise. The Treasury

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary would be the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't send in Marco Rubio for crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>You've tasked with a number of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I suppose there was a question. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been Howard Lutnik, who's Commerce Secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>Sands full with the complete agenda of tariffs right state side. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be happy to know we are stepping up our

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence gathering efforts where you're thinking China, Pakistan, Pakistan, Russia,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Several high ranking officials under the Director of National Intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>have issued a collection emphasis me message to the intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>agency heads this week. The Wall Street Journal says they

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<v Speaker 2>were directed to learn more about Greenland's independence move What

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<v Speaker 2>is this.

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<v Speaker 3>About Greenland and their independence.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me more and attitudes on American resource extraction from

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<v Speaker 2>the island.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we keep taking their stuff? Or they pissed about that?

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<v Speaker 2>This message a collection emphasis message helps set priorities for

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<v Speaker 2>these different intelligence agencies. This went to the agencies including CIA,

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<v Speaker 2>the DIA, the NSA, and underscores the apparent commitment to

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<v Speaker 2>seeking control of Greenland.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to learn a lot about snowshoes, snowshoes, ice pits.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we're going. There are no roads because there are

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<v Speaker 3>no roads.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's just ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Danish embassy in Washington did not comment on this

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<v Speaker 2>revelation from the Wall Street Journal. The Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 2>Greenland also didn't immediately respond for a request for a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>There are fifty six thousand people on Greenland right now,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six thousand. We could have dossier's on all of

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<v Speaker 2>them by clothes of business today. The idea that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to have some sort of intelligence community wide program

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<v Speaker 2>to dig deeper into Greenland sea, it's a little silly overboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, if you needed another sign that ozempic was

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<v Speaker 1>sweeping the nation and the GLP ones actually just overall

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<v Speaker 1>weight watchers is filing for bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, what an end of an era, an era

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<v Speaker 3>that spans.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know people who have done with forever.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother was like a lifetime member at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes no sense because she's four pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Your mother was, yes, oh she's thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know my mom was, but I think she

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<v Speaker 2>did more for the There was like a group of

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor ladies though, so the friends went and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole idea of I can eat this egg

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<v Speaker 1>it's only one point or whatever is ridiculous, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why I, uh, you know, look longingly at that

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog on the TV screen that you saw.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so you know the hot dog is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>You still have that look in your eye, but that

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<v Speaker 2>hot dog has been gone for an hour. Gary and

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon will continue points. Do you think that loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Hot dog was?

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<v Speaker 8>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 8>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Shannon.

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<v Speaker 7>My favorite saint is the female saint of perpetual Pleasure,

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<v Speaker 7>Jiel's Saint John.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe I don't even know who that is. You

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<v Speaker 3>would recognize her if you looked her up. I can't. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, I forgot you have no connection to the

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<v Speaker 3>outside work. I don't. I am just raw dog.

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<v Speaker 4>I shall be your filter.

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<v Speaker 3>What does she look like? Is she a sexy lady,

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<v Speaker 3>old blonde? Ah?

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<v Speaker 4>Am, I right, I think that's the Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>What era are we speaking of?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that she's probably actress, model, actress, Jill

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<v Speaker 2>Saint John.

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<v Speaker 4>How come I can't find her? Jill Saint John? There

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<v Speaker 4>she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me see a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>She's now in her eighties, but that's a beautiful, old

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<v Speaker 2>old picture of her, very young, probably twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, wonderful well Weight Watchers has been around

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<v Speaker 1>for sixty two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was founded in New York City by Jean Nidich,

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<v Speaker 1>an entrepreneur who had shed seventy two pounds by adhering

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<v Speaker 1>to a strict diet with the support of her friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She charged dieters a fee to attend periodic meetings where

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<v Speaker 1>they were encouraged to keep track of what they ate

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<v Speaker 1>and motivate one another.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom used to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a yellow legal pad and she would write

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<v Speaker 1>down everything she ate in the calories every day. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that's kind of a common thing

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you know, what you're putting in your mouth?

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<v Speaker 3>How much know what's in it kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The A lot of apps do that now too. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you you keep track of it. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the point where AI is allowing you to

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<v Speaker 2>take pictures of your meal and then AI will kind

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<v Speaker 2>of figure out what each thing was and then tell

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<v Speaker 2>you so that it takes the work out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, you know, we're already lazy enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a picture of a bloomin onion and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>go to the er. Your phone melts.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's an exercise regimen that goes along

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<v Speaker 1>with the point system that quantified appropriate food portions. They

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<v Speaker 1>did make a leap to a mobile app, a website

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to kind of next generation themselves, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the ozepic and the waygov and the zep

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<v Speaker 1>bound and all the other GLP ones to fight with.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they because of that stiff competition, they filed

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<v Speaker 1>for bankruptcy yesterday. They've got debt of more than one

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. Does one who expand its business? Wait, we

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<v Speaker 1>know bankruptcy doesn't mean it's the end of you it's

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<v Speaker 1>a rebranding, but they've already been through this. They rebranded

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. The pendulum will swing, people will go back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been around for sixty two years.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, I mean your point. When they started.

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<v Speaker 2>Gene Needitch or the one who started it, she dropped

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<v Speaker 2>more than seventy pounds by watching what she ate and

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<v Speaker 2>being around friends, people who hold you accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the thing, because you'd go to

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<v Speaker 1>check in, right if I remember correctly, with these weight

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<v Speaker 1>watchers meetings or whatever, you would go to check in,

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<v Speaker 1>they would weigh you. And one of my girlfriends, her

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<v Speaker 1>mom is in the lifetime program, so if she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>gain a pound, I think she it's free for her.

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<v Speaker 1>The membership is free if you don't gain a pound. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it is. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>that community of people that are kind of doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It is community place we hold each other accountable. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work all the time, but sometimes it does.

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<v Speaker 4>When you tell me not to eat certain foods.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell you not to eat certain food What

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<v Speaker 1>if I told you not to eat Okay, you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me not to eat certain foods. But you do.

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<v Speaker 3>You do things like are you gonna eat all of

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<v Speaker 3>that pizza? I do not say that. I give you

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<v Speaker 3>a look that says that, let's be clear, you.

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<v Speaker 1>how I use my words. I'm just kidding. You eat

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<v Speaker 4>How much of this has you could?

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<v Speaker 3>You could?

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<v Speaker 1>You could eat three pizzas a day and be fine

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<v Speaker 1>three pieces or pizzas because I'll go tempt me.

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<v Speaker 4>How much of this also has to do with Oprah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Oprah was a big deal about that you with

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<v Speaker 1>But she was also it's not it's it's very very

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, like science will show if you lose a

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<v Speaker 1>you're seventy two pounds. Your body is actually fighting to

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<v Speaker 2>Too well, And it's it's the word when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about you going on a diet. Everybody has a diet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like everybody has an ethnicity. You are ethnic, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a it's what goes into that diet. When people

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<v Speaker 3>Me because you have to live that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if your diet consists of iceberg, lettuce and pickles,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your diet. If your diet is banana cream pie

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<v Speaker 2>and Snickers bars and three two liters of soda every day,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your diet. It's just not a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not going to do that forever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what's tenable.

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<v Speaker 4>Lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Lifestyle, not I'm going to do this for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>That never works.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Gary Shannon my favorite saint. I know he was

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<v Speaker 9>more known for what he did with the Bears, but

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<v Speaker 9>it was Mike Ditka. Mike Ditka for sure, Snka. He

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<v Speaker 9>was the only one ever to enter the NFL draft

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<v Speaker 9>and trade every draft he had for one running back

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<v Speaker 9>nam Ricky Waters, and then took the rest of the

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<v Speaker 9>day off all the rest. Yeah, just an amazing move

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<v Speaker 9>and it didn't really work.

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<v Speaker 4>Out for him. But Dicka definitely my favorite saint.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're hurting as a nation right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>are hurting as a nation. It's May. We are in

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<v Speaker 1>dark days and everyone is making everything about football.

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<v Speaker 4>Football comes back in July.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Chargers of the first game, the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame game up next.

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<v Speaker 4>Justin Warsham is going to join us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about how to replace ourselves. Gotta start making babies. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>get do we have any baby making music? Elmer like

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<v Speaker 1>music that we can play to get people to make babies.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to play something from Smokey Robinson, but

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<v Speaker 1>You can't play that. Elmer will find us our baby

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<v Speaker 1>making music.

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<v Speaker 8>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 8>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Really that makes me want to cry a specific choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, sometimes tears are involved. You guys missed

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I wouldn't say you'd missed it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's fair. That's a better way to play it.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullet I have bad news for Warriors fans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Perry is going to be out for lease the

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<v Speaker 1>next three games because of because of that mild strain

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<v Speaker 1>of his left hand string.

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<v Speaker 5>It sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm sorry you're now a Warriors fan.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I just I'd like basketball and the Clippers were eliminated.

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<v Speaker 4>So you gave up in the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if you gave up on all Bay areas.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys. So, my mom's Catholic and a couple of years

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<v Speaker 7>ago she lost one of her hearing aids and I said, so,

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<v Speaker 7>what did you do? And she said, well, I prayed

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<v Speaker 7>to Saint Anthony. And I go, well, how does that go?

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<v Speaker 7>And she goes, I pray, Tony, Tony, Tony, help me,

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<v Speaker 7>help me, help me, Tony, Tony, Tony, help me, help

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<v Speaker 7>me help me. And I asked her if she got

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<v Speaker 4>And she went, what, No, she did? All right?

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<v Speaker 7>Bye?

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<v Speaker 1>Well he was able to hear her, was she could

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<v Speaker 1>not hear them? There was a joke in there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't find it. I didn't find it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still out there. It's flying around, it's in there.

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<v Speaker 4>He just rushes the punch the punchline. It was what

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<v Speaker 4>is that? What it was? Yeah? He said when she goes,

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<v Speaker 4>what you know? Did you did it? Cure you're hearing?

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<v Speaker 4>And she said what that should have been? He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to keep going, and then but he did the

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<v Speaker 4>No kid, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 10>I listen, it's hard to tell jokes over the phone

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<v Speaker 10>like that and you just know that you're possibly launching

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<v Speaker 10>it out to millions.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no feedback. Yeah, there's no immediate feed the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 10>The reason I started the podcast was because I'd done

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<v Speaker 10>a morning radio when I first started as a comic,

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<v Speaker 10>and it threw me because they weren't people who were

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<v Speaker 10>laughing along. They were just letting me talk like while

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<v Speaker 10>they were getting ready for the next thing. And it

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<v Speaker 10>threw me way off my game because I'm like, nobody's reacting.

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<v Speaker 10>So I was like, I have to practice this to

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<v Speaker 10>get because it's a thing when you do morning radio.

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<v Speaker 10>There's no audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially if Stas is your board off and there

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<v Speaker 1>is a high on drugs from the night before and

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<v Speaker 1>just stares at you.

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<v Speaker 3>For two hours or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>That's specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Worsham has joined us. We talk about parenting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Human populations need two point seven children per woman, yep

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<v Speaker 2>to reliably avoid extinction.

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<v Speaker 4>So we gonna need you to pull your weight, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 10>We need you to get it together. Tony helper to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they they're talking about that.

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<v Speaker 10>If we don't maintain an average birth rate per woman

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<v Speaker 10>on the planet of two point seven children, then uh,

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<v Speaker 10>then they're in the long term that could leave to

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<v Speaker 10>an extinction of the species. In the more short term,

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<v Speaker 10>what they're seeing a lot of is that family lines,

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<v Speaker 10>which I love that they put it on like we're

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<v Speaker 10>all royalty, like we care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anybody here like I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I listen.

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<v Speaker 10>I love my father, my grandfather, love all of them.

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<v Speaker 10>But if I was the end of the worship, mat.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you not need this line to continue in?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just continue this.

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<v Speaker 4>We're bring in.

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<v Speaker 10>What do we bring it to the genetic pool realistically?

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I know I'm a good time, but I'm

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<v Speaker 10>bringing a lot of high cholesterol, a lot of diabetes.

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<v Speaker 10>I got near sighted as stigmatism. The preacher Gray like,

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<v Speaker 10>we don't need that in the gre and you're the

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<v Speaker 10>sperm that won.

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<v Speaker 4>I was one on the top.

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<v Speaker 10>Of the line as far as my father was bringing

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<v Speaker 10>to the table back in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Garry said that.

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<v Speaker 1>To me recently and it was eye opening. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you at least one one race, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the.

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<v Speaker 10>Race is the first race, came in first, and then

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<v Speaker 10>it's just a series of seconds and fourth after that.

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<v Speaker 3>God.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing that I thought.

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<v Speaker 10>Was interesting is that they what do they say, more

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<v Speaker 10>so already we have more females than males and they

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<v Speaker 10>believe they're they're not good. Yeah, they've known for a

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<v Speaker 10>long time that they think that that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 10>account for just on known things, that having more women

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<v Speaker 10>on the planet leads to obviously more people being made right,

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<v Speaker 10>and so that there's some kind of evolutionary trend that

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<v Speaker 10>other data that I thought was interesting about birth rates,

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<v Speaker 10>and it said trends in completed family size vary slightly

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<v Speaker 10>by educational tainment. So this is from a study in

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<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty two that found that in nineteen eighty women

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<v Speaker 10>more had the lowest birth rate at two point two children,

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<v Speaker 10>and women with a high school degree or less had

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<v Speaker 10>the highest, at three point one to nine children, and

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<v Speaker 10>that the same order persisted in twenty twenty two with

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<v Speaker 10>a narrow range. So in twenty twenty two, women with

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<v Speaker 10>a bachelor's degree had one point seven children and high

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<v Speaker 10>school degree or less have two point one point four, which,

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<v Speaker 10>with all due respect to anybody, I have some college

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<v Speaker 10>I put on my application, so I would lump myself

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<v Speaker 10>into this. This seems to be we are trending towards

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<v Speaker 10>an idiocracy type situation where their whole premise of that

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<v Speaker 10>movie was that people who should not be having children,

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<v Speaker 10>we're the ones we're having more children.

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<v Speaker 3>Was such a prescient film? Was it two thousand and five?

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<v Speaker 10>Macau and Hong Kong have the lowest fertility rates as

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<v Speaker 10>of this year, at point sixty nine and point seventy

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<v Speaker 10>four respectfully, and Chad, which is a country in northern

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<v Speaker 10>Central Africa, has the highest at five point nine four

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<v Speaker 10>children per woman.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA, yeah, they average six kids per wow.

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<v Speaker 10>Somalia is at five point nine to one. Wow, Well,

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<v Speaker 10>how many people do you know that are like, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean other than Chaman, Like, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 10>I feel like there's more people that are not having kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I have more friends now that aren't having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and here's the thing. My kids have said they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about having kids, yeah, which is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you guys were kind of fun, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>had a fun time. Why would you not want to

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<v Speaker 2>have kids.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a lot of pressure, like to put on yourself

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<v Speaker 10>to think that you made me turn them off like

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<v Speaker 10>I saw it?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of I don't want to money,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, money, it's environment, environment, it's it's bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the kids into what world or the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't and I don't ever remember. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember having those thoughts in my head about it now.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know why grant different world different times.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Internet ruined all of that because

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<v Speaker 1>it opened our eyes to so much more, so much.

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<v Speaker 3>More period to be afraid of, to be afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just expectation overwhelming, really is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much simpler when it was just your

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<v Speaker 1>family and your friends and that was the unit. And

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<v Speaker 1>people had kids and that was it, and your purview

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<v Speaker 1>was your world around you. Really, and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>to college, you meet some new people and then their

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<v Speaker 1>their world opened you up to their world. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world is right in your pocket and it's overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you do plan to have kids, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a new rule of effective parenting. Is this seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven rules?

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<v Speaker 4>I like this. That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's also common sense.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from

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<v Speaker 8>kfi AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>How happy summer is making me?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not summer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like summer because you've had a week and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Of it is glorious.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you like get her out of a box? Like

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<v Speaker 10>she's acting like she didn't see before ten am today?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all overcast a cloudy like it's been the

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<v Speaker 2>past few days. It was, but I mean she is

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<v Speaker 2>very excited now. Look at her face.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not.

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<v Speaker 4>She can't hear us tending just to my left.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon kfi AM sixty Live Everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app Justin Warsham has joined us. When we're talking parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>the seven seven seven rule of effective parenting.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, I did a parenting podcast for probably, what I

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<v Speaker 10>want to say, at least seven years, somewhere in that range,

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<v Speaker 10>maybe longer.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually might have been ten. And I've never come.

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<v Speaker 10>Across this rule, but it definitely parallels a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>the advice I would get from like child development specialists

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<v Speaker 10>and pediatricians, people that I talked to on the show

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<v Speaker 10>Just Parenting, you know, authors, and so it is a

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<v Speaker 10>seven seven seven rules, So it breaks down the different

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<v Speaker 10>kind of generations of a childhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first zero to.

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<v Speaker 10>Seven years, the focus as a parent is on play,

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<v Speaker 10>so your kids learn through having fun activities and interaction.

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<v Speaker 10>And then from seven to fourteen is where it's more

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<v Speaker 10>about teaching them lessons. So your interactions become more like coaching,

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<v Speaker 10>and a lot of you know, can the way they

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<v Speaker 10>I want to say lecture, but I'm sure that's not

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<v Speaker 10>what kids want to hear. But I definitely know that's

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<v Speaker 10>what I'm guilty of. And then from fourteen to twenty one,

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<v Speaker 10>it becomes guiding where it's like and that's I feel like,

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<v Speaker 10>even though my younger one is he'll be fourteen in

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<v Speaker 10>the next month. But I've seen that transition where it's

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<v Speaker 10>like when they become teenagers, you have to start and

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<v Speaker 10>it's hard, but you have to start letting them do

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<v Speaker 10>their own thing and kind of fail while they still

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<v Speaker 10>have the safety net of home and hopefully you can

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<v Speaker 10>just you point them. I spend a lot of time going,

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<v Speaker 10>this is the direction I would go if I was

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<v Speaker 10>you and your brain is telling you not to listen

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<v Speaker 10>to it now, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to go one hundred n h way.

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<v Speaker 10>And I was talking to my buddy yesterday about this,

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<v Speaker 10>where I said, I go the thing my dad said

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<v Speaker 10>to me when I was like ten, he goes, I said, like,

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<v Speaker 10>I love you, and he goes, well, in a couple

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<v Speaker 10>of years, you're gonna hate me. You're gonna think I'm

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<v Speaker 10>an idiot and that you know everything, and we're going

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<v Speaker 10>to fight a lot. Then you're gonna turn like twenty

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<v Speaker 10>one twenty two and we'll go back to being buds again.

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<v Speaker 10>And he was definitely right. And I've said my version

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<v Speaker 10>of that that I said that to my kids, but

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<v Speaker 10>I have a different version where I tried to better it,

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<v Speaker 10>and I said, now that you've ventured this phase of

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<v Speaker 10>your life. Your brain is going to tell you that

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know what I'm talking about, or that I'm

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<v Speaker 10>being mean to you, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I go.

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<v Speaker 10>And I would like to ask that you ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 10>why would this person who loves me a lot and

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<v Speaker 10>just wants what is best for me do things to

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<v Speaker 10>ruin my life? And if like genuinely try to see

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<v Speaker 10>it from that perspective. And I don't know how often

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<v Speaker 10>my kids do it, but I know that I don't

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<v Speaker 10>fight with my sixteen year ol as much as I

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<v Speaker 10>did when I fought with my dad, Like, we don't

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<v Speaker 10>have those things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also a very advanced question for a kid. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say, specifically for a boy, to ask

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<v Speaker 2>him the point about that, because I don't. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have never thought my parents tried to ruin my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time they said no to something, they were they're

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<v Speaker 2>ruining my life, and I never would have wrapped my

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<v Speaker 2>head around the well, the point is they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>protect me from either hurting myself, hurting somebody else, hurting

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<v Speaker 2>my future, you know, setting myself up for failure or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would be would be.

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<v Speaker 10>I just felt like my dad was just so mean

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<v Speaker 10>when I was a teenager, That's what I was. He

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<v Speaker 10>was so mean, and I remember thinking I just wanted

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<v Speaker 10>to be right, which is the other thing I told

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<v Speaker 10>my kids. I said, when I was your age, I

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<v Speaker 10>just want to be right once. And here's what I

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<v Speaker 10>have to tell you. It's not going to happen like

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<v Speaker 10>this is not it's not in the cars for you,

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<v Speaker 10>but to miss every time. But I had, like, this

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<v Speaker 10>is the sweetest thing. My son went on a date

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<v Speaker 10>with a girl and they were talking and they were

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<v Speaker 10>he one of the things he likes about her is

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<v Speaker 10>that she's very close with her family, and family is

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<v Speaker 10>very important to them, and he said he goes. Both

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<v Speaker 10>of them said like, he goes. I couldn't imagine ever

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<v Speaker 10>being mad at my parents because at like the lunch

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<v Speaker 10>table they talk and a lot of the kids complain

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<v Speaker 10>about their parents. And he was like and she was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>same thing. And again he could be sucking me a

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<v Speaker 10>sucking up to me, or and it's working if he's manipulating,

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<v Speaker 10>because I was like, oh, thanks man, yeah, he's totally

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<v Speaker 10>thanks for thanks for ruining my You're very.

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<v Speaker 3>Easy to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 4>We have time to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 10>That seems it just seems like a horrible time in

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<v Speaker 10>a segment to drop that up. No, don't back metal,

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<v Speaker 10>and that's say you made that up?

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<v Speaker 4>No you did it, No, you did it. All jokes

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<v Speaker 4>are based in truth.

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<v Speaker 3>How would I know that? What am I ever trying

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<v Speaker 3>to manipulate you?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's working.

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<v Speaker 4>Point proven? That was stupid. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>here anymore? Can we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I ruining your life? He's a little bit okay.

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<v Speaker 10>The sarcasm also isn't helping because it's not really sarcasm,

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<v Speaker 10>it's just mean said with a sarcas tone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was hurtful.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so acting. I did know.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very sarcastic, but hurtful.

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<v Speaker 10>Am I still hurting this? I can't remember now?

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<v Speaker 4>John? Now you're better now, jesu lout. I just felt

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<v Speaker 4>like I was Jedi my trick. I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 4>like I was.

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<v Speaker 8>I was so.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, stop it?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait? Do you do it to me too?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you guys ever get to the seven seven seventh things?

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<v Speaker 7>What are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was playing connections?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I rest my case.

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<v Speaker 10>She also manipulated me about paying a quarter percent attention.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't remember hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>She used all of her brain.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, I didn't hear you guys say focus on

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<v Speaker 1>play and focus on teaching and all that you did.

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<v Speaker 4>That was at the very beginning. When how did your

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<v Speaker 4>connect four? What were you playing?

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<v Speaker 10>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I finished wordle in three? No, I think I finished

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<v Speaker 1>it in four. But I'm onto connections now. Connection has

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<v Speaker 1>been stuff you speak to.

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<v Speaker 10>Her like immense strength and manipulation or my immense weakness

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<v Speaker 10>and manipulation.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither. I'm afraid to answer any of what you just said.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>No, No, I'm not lying. This is not a bit

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<v Speaker 10>like I need to. I need to get to the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Line everything you're manipulating with a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 7>It?

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<v Speaker 4>Dare you don't? They'll try to distract me with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mary and Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>All right now I'm done. Now I'm mad. Hope you're happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a great week. Everybody, go take a bath and down.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any hysteric call.

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<v Speaker 4>Take a bath, smile more. Thank you as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge twelve o'clock hours coming up next, Gary, it does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon show. You

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<v Speaker 2>can always hear US live on kf I am six

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.