1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media. 2 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:14,599 Speaker 2: Fucking hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You 3 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:19,879 Can't Be Serious Podcasts, Part two of our special Christmas edition. 4 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:24,760 And I'm thinking, Jason, maybe these guys should be spending 5 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:29,079 some time with their family instead of listening to our podcasts. 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,320 What do you think? No? For three reasons. 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,119 Speaker 3: Ay, we'll be comparing two of the greatest Christmas movies 8 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:36,479 of all time, Home Alone and Christmas Story two. 9 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: This is our last podcast of twenty twenty. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,679 Speaker 3: One, and d we'll be giving our final judgment and 11 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:44,359 all five of the Christmas movies we've covered so far 12 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:45,159 in our podcast. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,719 Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing. Why the heck did you 14 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:50,119 take your shoes off? Why are you just like a chicken? 15 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:54,759 Speaker 3: All right, we're diving in right here, Part two of 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,640 a Christmas Story versus Home Alone. Let's talk about the 17 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:00,520 lamp real quick, Okay, the electric sex and in the 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 window I had somebody. This week we've posted on Facebook 19 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:06,760 about a Christmas Story fragilely. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Yes, must be French, not French. It's Italian. Must be Italian. 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Everybody does it. Everybody says must be French, but it's 22 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:15,879 not French. This must be Italian. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: Really, Yes, Okay, well I blew that one. 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Then. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:18,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,439 Speaker 3: The reason why he gets this lamp in the first 27 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:24,599 place because his wife is great this trivia, Yeah, Victor, you. 28 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Know everybody knows the lone Ranger's nephew's horse. Great characters 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,120 of literature, Victor. 30 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 31 00:01:33,079 --> 00:01:35,239 Speaker 3: And then when he gets the lamp, of course he 32 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:38,200 sets it up. She keeps turning it off. She hates 33 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:41,319 it clearly. And then that day comes where there's an 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,680 I don't. 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: Know what happened. I was watering my plants and I 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,799 broke your lamp. Get the glue. We don't have any 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,280 You used up all the glue. On purpose, he was 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,000 looking for a singer, but all he could get out 39 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:00,680 was not guy. Oh my god, it's great. 40 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,719 Speaker 3: The Chinese scene at the end of the movie, Yeah, 41 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:04,959 we have to shepherd. 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,439 Speaker 2: They had to go eat Chinese food. But the rest 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,840 of the scene was all a creation of Bob Clark. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,240 There was no duck, there was no singing. That was 45 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:18,719 all Bob Clark and the rah and he's he's smiling 46 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:19,080 at me. 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that scene. Melinda Dylon was purposely given 48 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,599 the wrong script so she would be shocked in. 49 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Surprise, and her reaction is so genuine, her laughter is 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,319 so good, and her scream is so on point awesome. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,199 I love it. He's smiling at me. 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: And then the Chinese guys are singing fellah la la lah, right, 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,919 and the guy the restaurant keeps correcting them. Yeah, no, no, no, no, 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,960 seemed like this like the Hall of the Balls and 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,400 hollow right, and he corrects them. If you watch the movie, 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,759 that dude is cracking up. 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: The whole time. Oh yeah, he can't stop laughing. It's 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,919 it's great, it's great. Okay, one more quick thing. Okay, 59 00:02:57,039 --> 00:02:59,159 this is a point of contention and I and I 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,439 wonder about that because I think that I had my 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Red Writer be Begun before this movie came out, and 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 my Red Writer be Begun I still own it. It 63 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,759 has a compass in the stock, yes, Red Writer b 64 00:03:11,879 --> 00:03:15,039 Begun maintains that they did not have a model that 65 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:18,199 had a compass in the stock. That's some other brand 66 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:21,039 of B Begun. And Geene Shepherd, when he was still alive, 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,919 was like, I remember it. I remember the compass in 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,039 the stock. And this thing that tells time. I say, 69 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:28,639 which tails time? 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Yet? 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 72 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm telling you, I had it compass in 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,520 the stock Sundial all on the butt of my Red 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Writer be begun. 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,159 Speaker 3: Yes, but those are recreations. So when they went to 76 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:42,879 the nineteen thirty nine version, Red Writer Company is like, well, 77 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:44,439 we're going to have to make one for you because 78 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:45,879 it's not the way you remember it. 79 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:48,039 Speaker 2: Right and speaking, which is important to note that this 80 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,639 was supposed to be back in the nineteen thirties. Forties 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,080 areas right that? Yeah? Okay, So Bob Clark deliberately tried 82 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:58,080 to make the movie look like it was filmed back then. 83 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,400 That's why you have that kind of stalgic look going on. 84 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:03,439 I mean, not only did they do the costumes right 85 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:06,120 and the cars right, but he had the way of filming. 86 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,759 And one of those things was the iris opening and 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,840 closing from one scene to the next scene, which was 88 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:15,759 a totally old style of doing your cuts. But he 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,759 brought it back for this movie because he wanted that 90 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:20,160 nostalgia feeling and he nailed it. 91 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:22,759 Speaker 3: You know, a movie the cinematographer for Home Alone watched 92 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,319 in order to get the right feel for the movie. 93 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,519 Speaker 2: Christmas Story Perfect. How about that? 94 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's take a quick break we're going 95 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:32,759 to intro a new podcast out there right now. 96 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, plan your work and work your plan. For many athletes, 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,319 saying such as this could be considered scripture, permanent sign 98 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,160 posts lining the long road to success in sports. 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All right, guys, go check 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:06:08,519 out Blindsided. Okay, so let's move back to home alone. Right. Okay, 121 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,040 so we said we started off with Warner Brothers. The 122 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:15,199 budget was ten million dollars, and they started making their movie, 123 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,639 and day after day, event after event, the budget started 124 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:24,360 to creep up, creep up, and creep up, and eventually 125 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:29,720 they reached fourteen point seven million dollars, and Warner Brothers 126 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:32,360 called them up and said, you guys have to stop. 127 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:34,480 You're at fourteen point seven. You said you could make 128 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:36,959 this movie for ten million. You need to stop. Like 129 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,199 you're gonna give us trouble. We're doing great, We've got 130 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,040 all this stuff together. I mean they went cheap. I 131 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,120 meant the cinematographer, second unit guy for movies like he 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,439 had never really done it on his own before. Same 133 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,879 thing for the editor, same thing for the set designer. 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,360 And so they had gone for guys who didn't have 135 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:55,040 a whole lot of experience to do these things, just 136 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:58,600 to keep the budget within reasonable realms. And it's not 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,240 like they had Arnold Schwarzenegger the title role, right, r 138 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,439 an eight year old kid, And so they went off 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,040 by a little bit. But I mean, we're talking about 140 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:07,480 Hollywood standards here, that's not that much. 141 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: So John Hughes is like, no, this is bull crap. 142 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:12,439 This is Warner Brothers we're talking about. This is not 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,600 some mom and pop thing. He's like, they'll make it. 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,240 It's fine, I'll send him a letter. So John Hughes 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,720 writes a letter. It's like there's nothing left to cut. 146 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 So they're like, all right, we're pulling the plug. 147 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. But John Hughes had a little ace in his sleeve, 148 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,519 right because he did something that if you live in Hollywood, 149 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,439 you would call it underhanded, that's right, or illegal? Right, 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Like it's it's not okay. So he had talked to 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,720 executives from twentieth Century Fox while the movie was still 152 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:47,879 a Warner Brothers movie, and surreptitiously, somehow those guys got 153 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:50,920 a copy of the script. That's funny how that happens 154 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,000 just happened up on their doorsteps somehow. Man. And so 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,319 they when these things are going on with Warner Brothers. 156 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:00,839 They're like, if anything goes wrong, if it ends up 157 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,680 and turnaround, you let us know, just keep going. And 158 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,639 they're like, how much did you say you were at 159 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,040 and he's like fourteen point seven. They're like, you don't stop. 160 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Don't stop production. And so literally, when the hatchetman from 161 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,680 Warner Brothers shows up, he goes from door to door 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,920 in the New Trier School to their offices and say, 163 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:19,959 all right, guys, shut it down, we're cutting it. This 164 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,839 movie's over. And right behind him was the assistant director 165 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:27,879 who's like, don shut it down. And he would literally 166 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,759 follow him from office to office. And when he walked 167 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:32,759 out of the building, he turned around and he's like, 168 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,799 what's going on. He's like, what's going on is you're fired? 169 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:37,000 I love it. 170 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: I love that story. 171 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: And we're talking about I mean, fourteen fifteen million dollars. 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,720 Can you imagine being the Warner Brothers guy who said 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,120 kill this movie and then seeing it hit number one 174 00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:54,399 week one, then week two, week three, week four, we five, 175 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,120 I mean something like twelve to fourteen weeks this movie 176 00:08:58,159 --> 00:08:59,279 was in the number one spot. 177 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: It's insane. It made almost what half a billion dollars? 178 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,279 Speaker 2: Like it was, Yeah, in the four hundred million dollar. 179 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,639 Speaker 3: Range, and they let it slip through their fingers over 180 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:09,320 one point two million dollars. 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,159 Speaker 2: It's nice. Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers. 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: Gosh, Daniel Stern was filming City Slickers, and Billy Crystal 183 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,639 would get a copy of the magazine and he kept 184 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:20,279 coming to me. He was like, Hey, your movie's number one. 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,320 And then he showed up again, Hey, guess what your 186 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,559 movies number one. They were shot City Slickers for three months. 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,080 The whole time it was number one. 188 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: It was in the theater for six months. It's insane. 189 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,919 It is insane. 190 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: When Chris Columbus's next movie, Only Lonely, starring John Candy, 191 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:38,480 was released. 192 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,159 Speaker 2: Home Alone was in the theater. 193 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Only Lonely finished number five. Home Loan was number eleven. 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,519 Speaker 2: That's how long it had stayed. Okay, So let's talk 195 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:50,000 a little bit about those guys who were editing and 196 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,600 filming and such like that. So the guy who had 197 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:57,159 only done second unit, who was their cinematographer, he's a 198 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,720 little concerned that he might mess something up, and so 199 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,639 he had a little like tiny extra camera that he 200 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 would set up for every shot just to get coverage. Right, 201 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,240 just to just to make sure in case something goes 202 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:12,039 wrong with the main picture that I've got that. And 203 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,879 he called it his chicken camera. Please believe that the 204 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:19,759 bonus camera. Yes, and so he was like, not only 205 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:22,679 was it invaluable, but I started to realize some of 206 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,840 my best shots were coming from the chicken caing And 207 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:28,240 so a lot of what you see in the movie 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,879 is from that second camera that he had set up. 209 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,639 And some of the reasons that it's so good are 210 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:38,080 the stunts, because the stunt would you know, he'd have 211 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,480 one camera set up and he'd catch the stunt man's 212 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:43,559 face or whatever. And I mean, you watch those stunts, 213 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,039 Holy cow, you think that's a real person. This isn't 214 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:49,840 a cartoon, Like those guys are real human beings falling 215 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:52,159 as hard as and there wasn't padding. This is a 216 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:55,320 low budget movie. There was a guy dressed up like 217 00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:58,600 Joe Pesci who fell as hard as he could after 218 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,639 doing a four jump in the air straight on to 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,720 his back. Chris Columbus said, they wouldn't watch the take. 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,039 They'd say action, they'd turn away, and then once they 221 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,120 knew it was over, they go, is he okay? Okay? 222 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,240 All right? And then and it was ready to do 223 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:20,240 it again. Those stuntmen are amazing. I mean, you just 224 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:23,399 got to think about iron to the face, shot in 225 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,360 the crotch, blow towards whatever you got. It is amazing 226 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,120 the stuff that those guys went through, including the stuntman 227 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:32,519 for Macaulay Culkin. 228 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Who is a thirty year old man, yeah, who is 229 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,440 just just short. 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, short, and then just worked out. Well. 231 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:41,519 Speaker 3: The one stunt that bothers me the most is that 232 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,039 dude who's jumping off the porch directly on his like 233 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,320 backslash neck. 234 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:51,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he lands. I mean, dude, I wouldn't be 235 00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:53,399 like dead. You listen to him talking about He's like, 236 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,639 I love it. I love he must be a massacre. 237 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:58,320 He just enjoys the thing. Crazy man. So, how do 238 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,919 you make a movie that's got this much violence and 239 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:06,399 still make it PG and acceptable to parents and kids. 240 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,159 You make it a cartoon movie. That's what you do. 241 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,480 And so that's he was pulling. The guy who they 242 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:15,879 had doing the editing was pulling sounds and notions and 243 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,799 shots from the Looney Tunes. 244 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,639 Speaker 3: He watched Looney tunes to get the beats of the movie, 245 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,320 Like when do you show the slip. 246 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,919 Speaker 2: When do you show the crunch? When do you show 247 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:36,320 the Marv? What are you doing Marv? You know the. 248 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: Tarantula scene, the Transla on the face scene, which you 249 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,600 know when I saw this in the movie theater, I'm like, dude, 250 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,320 that's a real translaon his face and it was like 251 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:48,879 super scary, right, I guess translas are deaf, Like they 252 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,159 can't hear. Like Daniel Sturm was like, if I scream 253 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,960 my guts ound, is this thing gonna bite me? And 254 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,360 they're like, no, no, it's deaf. 255 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: Can't hear you? Okay, sure, there it goes. 256 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:01,799 Speaker 3: By the way, way that Trancella's name they never say 257 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:03,720 in the movie. You get it from the novelization. 258 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:11,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Transella's name. Axel, Oh my god? Is it Fully 259 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:11,919 or Rose? 260 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,039 Speaker 3: I believe it's Rose based on the year that it 261 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:15,440 came out. 262 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: Well, I guess Buzz would probably be a g n 263 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:20,519 R fan. By the way, your girlfriend. 264 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,759 Speaker 3: The girlfriend's picture, yeah, that is the that is the 265 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:29,200 son of like the assistant director. 266 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: They felt it was going to be too mean to. 267 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: Take a picture of a real girl and then talk 268 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,679 about how much of a dog she is. 269 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: So it's his son. That picture is hilarious. That's hysterical. 270 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,919 One of the things that I want to talk about. 271 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,799 Speaker 3: During the production, like they would film scenes with the 272 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,440 family in France, and when they cut it all together 273 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,799 and they showed it to test audiences, people could have 274 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:56,639 cared less about the mcallisters in France, right. 275 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: They wanted just to get back to Kevin. I mean, 276 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,679 and that's another question, you know, how do you make 277 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,840 how do you create a believable story where the mother 278 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,679 leaves her child at home and is not a human 279 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,080 being that you hate? Okay, we got to talk about that. 280 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,000 So that's the biggest problem with this movie. Okay, yep. 281 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: Most people when they watch it, they're like, well, she's 282 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,799 a terrible mother. I would say, she's not a terrible mother. 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,679 Speaker 2: No, Okay. 284 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,919 Speaker 3: She had a series of unfortunate events, including the neighbor 285 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:27,919 boy who came over and looked enough like Kevin to 286 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,559 be counted as part of the family. They were in 287 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,840 a huge rush because they overslept because the power. 288 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:33,679 Speaker 2: Line right, right. 289 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: But one thing that you might miss when you watch 290 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:39,000 the movie that I only caught this time, when Kevin 291 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,399 and Buzz get in a fight at the dinner before 292 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:43,879 they have their flight or whatever. He knocks over a 293 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:46,919 bunch of milk. Mister mcalliser scoops up this giant mess 294 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:50,279 and it includes Kevin's ticket, his airline ticket. 295 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Yep. If you freeze frame it, you can see the 296 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,279 ticket being thrown into the trash. 297 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: I guess John Hughes was intent on covering all the holes, right. 298 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: So I note because I knew that that was the case. 299 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,559 I watched as they came onto the plane, and they 300 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,639 just make it onto the plane, right, And the flight 301 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,639 attendant is like, you just made it, And so she's 302 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 got all of the tickets in her hand. They hand 303 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,639 them all to her at the same time, and so 304 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,519 she's got the tickets, she's counting the heads as they 305 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:21,080 go onto the plane. And that's why you don't get 306 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,440 a miscount. It's because that ticket got thrown away. John 307 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:24,399 Hughes is brilliant. 308 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: There was a scene that was actually cut from the 309 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:30,039 movie when Kevin realizes that his family is missing. He 310 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:32,240 burst out the front door and into the front lawn 311 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,639 and like, where's my family? 312 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,399 Speaker 2: And the garage doors are up. 313 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,279 Speaker 3: They actually did forget to put the garage doores. 314 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: That's right, yep. 315 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: So I thought this was interesting, the Christmas ornaments that 316 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:44,559 Daniel Stearn has to step on. So we talked about 317 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,759 how die Hard and Home Alone have people picking glass 318 00:15:47,799 --> 00:15:51,039 out of their feet. Those ornaments he actually did step on. 319 00:15:51,799 --> 00:15:54,080 He did have those fake ribber feet that Bruce Willis 320 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,759 had in die Hard. 321 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,039 Speaker 2: He wore those as well. 322 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,039 Speaker 3: But those ornaments were made of sugar, so those shards. 323 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,399 Speaker 2: Are not really that sharp, gotcha. 324 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: We talked about how they had this cartoon language where 325 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,720 they didn't curse at all. 326 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: Right, right about the fifty three. 327 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,039 Speaker 3: Minute mark, Daniel Stern does let out the old sh word. 328 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Yep. It just kind of. 329 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: Slides under you don't really notice it, right, So apparently 330 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,679 that is the point in the movie where he's retrieving 331 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,840 his boot through the doggy door, right, And it even 332 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,120 shows up in the subtitles, which I thought was funny. 333 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is also probably the time in a Christmas 334 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,440 story where Ralphie realizes that his decoder ring has been 335 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:43,120 an advertisement frommy commercial says, I just want to talk 336 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,000 about that. There's a moment that's like with actors on movies, 337 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,799 you have these small scenes, right like this boom happens, 338 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:53,480 Boom happened. They're looking at their script as it goes right, right, 339 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 but they're in this home alone. There is an extended 340 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:01,200 dialogue scene that involves Kevin call him just this very 341 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:04,240 young actor doing the scene, and it's the one in 342 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,839 the church, right, And it's an emotional, moving, important moment 343 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,279 because it's like it's like we talked about, you have 344 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,440 to fall in love with the character before you see 345 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,759 him go do all this horrible stuff, right, because you're 346 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:21,599 about to see him go do some really mean and 347 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,960 dastardly things, although it is the bad guys, but before that, 348 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,440 you are touched. Your heart is touched. Right. And it's 349 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,160 that scene with the old man in the church talking 350 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,039 about his son and his granddaughter who was singing in 351 00:17:36,079 --> 00:17:38,960 the choir. Right. So Chris Columbus was concerned about the scene. 352 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,279 And Chris Columbus is a great guy to work with kids, 353 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:43,920 like he just loves treats them like grown ups but 354 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,119 still appreciates that there are kids and has fun with them. 355 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,880 So he was worried about how the scene was going 356 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,079 to go. He said. Macaulay Culkin showed up for this 357 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,319 scene and had it memorized and did it perfectly right, 358 00:17:57,319 --> 00:18:00,200 out of the gate right like it was like or 359 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,480 watching a stage performance. He had it all down and 360 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:06,880 delivered it all perfectly from beginning to end. 361 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: You know, that scene I think would mirror the scene 362 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,640 in Diehard when Bruge Willis is picking the glass out 363 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,839 of his feet talking about how I always told his 364 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,079 wife he loved her, but he never said he was sorry. Yep, 365 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,559 you gotta nail that one, because it's time to go get. 366 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: The bad guys right right, Okay, we're ready to talk composers. 367 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Let's talk composers. Okay, So jumping back to a Christmas story, 368 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,960 we have a couple guys. We have Paul Zaza, yes, 369 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:38,400 and Carl Zitter. Now, Carl Zitter has done a music 370 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,920 composition for New Jack City and Moonstruck, and then of 371 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,000 course he also did it for a couple of Bob 372 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:49,519 Clark movies called the Murder by Numbers and Black Christmas. 373 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:53,799 As we discussed, Murder by Numbers also involved Paul's Aza, 374 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,759 and Paul's Oza was also the composer for Baby Genuses. 375 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:02,000 The music that they have in this movie is very 376 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:05,000 Christmas based, right, it's all. And then you have the 377 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:09,160 kind of chase and as the kids are running away 378 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,920 from the bullies. Right. It's very subtle. It's not breathtaking, 379 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,559 but it makes the movie in a non obtrusive way, right, 380 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,240 would you agree? 381 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:17,599 Speaker 3: Sure? 382 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: So then jump forward to Home Alone. They have a 383 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,119 guy who's supposed to do the music composition for Home Alone. Yeah, 384 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,039 you know who that guy is. His name is Bruce Broughton. 385 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: H He was attached as the original composer. 386 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: Ye. He worked with Chris. 387 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: Columbus when they did Young Sherlock Holmes, but he left 388 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:37,920 Home Alone to go do The Rescuers down Under. 389 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,319 Speaker 2: Really yeah? Okay, well he had composed some music for it. 390 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,279 Ultimately we know that it didn't get used in the movie. Right, 391 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:49,519 just wasn't right. But there they are. They've got a movie, 392 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,279 they've got it cut together, but they don't have music. Like, okay, well, 393 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:54,359 what are we going to do? Who are we going 394 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,400 to get? And Chris Columbus as a joke, because we're 395 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,359 talking about a small budget movie by a director who 396 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,160 has done two movies, one of which is an absolute failure, 397 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:05,839 and he goes going to be great if we could 398 00:20:05,839 --> 00:20:06,680 get John Williams. 399 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the greatest living movie composer of all. 400 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,599 Speaker 2: Time, Right, somehow John Williams gets the rough cut of 401 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,359 the movie. He calls them on the phone and says, 402 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,839 I love this movie. Is it okay if I compose 403 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,279 the music for it? Gosh? 404 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,319 Speaker 3: And it was so key to the feel and tone 405 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:25,319 of this movie. 406 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,079 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yes. I mean he takes all of 407 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,960 those Tchaikowsky Nutcracker music suits and weaves them perfectly into 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,039 his own music, which creates the I mean, it changes 409 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:39,440 the movie. I mean without that music, it's not the 410 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,480 same movie. It is. It takes it to that number 411 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:45,960 one over and over again, week after week. 412 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: Level. The word he used was I was enchanted. Yeah, 413 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:52,119 which is so John Williams, Yeah, it is. 414 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: It really is so. 415 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Then of course Chris Columbus goes on to do the 416 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Harry Potter movies, right, and John Williams does those as well. 417 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,279 Speaker 2: And it's also very crests, very first, lots of bells 418 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,400 and chines. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, okay, So on 419 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,440 the music, not only did we have you know that 420 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,000 Christmas music, but do you know what music plays when 421 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,279 the bullies come out? It's like Peter and the Wolf, right, Yeah, 422 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:20,279 And of course the bullies are Grover Dill and Scott Farcas, 423 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:27,039 which is a Hungarian word which means wolf. Oh that's great. 424 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,000 There you go down the day all right. Of note 425 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,839 in home alone, just talking about the little the little 426 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,559 nuances you know, right that make it. Yes, there's almost 427 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,519 no blue in the entire movie. It is almost exclusively 428 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,599 red and green. It's amazing. 429 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: The guy who did it, the production designer, Yeah, he 430 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,920 doesn't even like Christmas. Yeah, I hate Christmas. But let's 431 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,200 make everything green and red. 432 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,759 Speaker 2: And it works. It's I mean, that movie makes you 433 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:56,200 feel like Christmas. It does. 434 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: Okay, One things I wanted to bring up and we 435 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,559 didn't talk about this during casting. John Hughes called in 436 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:05,160 a favor with his buddy John Candy, right, So John 437 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,359 Candy says. 438 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:06,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do it. 439 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: You got one day with me. So John Hughes is like, great, 440 00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:12,759 one day. So they bring him and he works for scale. 441 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,559 He actually earned less than the pizza boy, right people, 442 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,799 five hundred bucks. John Candy made four fourteen for one 443 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,279 day's worth of work. So when he gets to the set, 444 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,160 he allows John Candy to improvise, does all his boca 445 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,519 boca PoCA, all that stuff r and he and Catherine 446 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,279 Nahara had worked together on SETV, so they knew each other. 447 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,359 They were comfortable, they were improv actors, all that stuff. 448 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: But here's the funny part. John Candy said, yeah, I'll 449 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:40,160 work for one day. 450 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,039 Speaker 3: He didn't realize that it was actually going to be 451 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,000 twenty three hours of filming. He said, there was a 452 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,400 moment in the day when he glared at John Hughes 453 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,920 is like, it's seven am. 454 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:51,599 Speaker 2: What the heck? 455 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,079 Speaker 3: I thought that was funny. I do think that it's funny. 456 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,759 The movie Angels with Filthy Souls. 457 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: Was created and directed specifically for this movie. Yes, keep 458 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,160 that change of filthy animal. 459 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,839 Speaker 3: Yes. In fact, the set pieces in that movie were 460 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,680 like cardboard and stuff like that. They barely pieced it together. 461 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,319 Keep the change of Filthy Animals. 462 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,279 Speaker 2: And then in part two he watches Angels with Filthy 463 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,000 Years olds. Right, that's right. 464 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,759 Speaker 3: I guess the two actors had to reverse their roles. 465 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't know their names. 466 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,759 Speaker 3: So the guy who was like, keep the change of 467 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,039 filthy animal and the other guy who's like, hey snakes, wait, 468 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,799 they were actually reversed, but one guy hurt his knee so. 469 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: He couldn't take the fall. Ah. 470 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,039 Speaker 3: So the guy who ended up shooting the guy. He 471 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,440 came back for the sequel because he had an injured knee. 472 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: So yeah. So interestingly, this narration thing that the executive 473 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:50,960 said was not going to be of interest to anyone 474 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,880 ended up spawning a TV series where you had somebody 475 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,960 narrating what happened to them when they were young. Except 476 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:01,960 taking place in the forties. It took place from nineteen 477 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,599 sixty eight to nineteen seventy six. You know what the 478 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,559 show is I'm talking about. We're talking about The Wonder Years. Yeah, 479 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,079 and do you know who the narrator was, Daniel Stern. 480 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,640 There you go. 481 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: The Wonder Years is based off a Christmas story. 482 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it inspired it. It inspired the creation of The 483 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,799 Wonder Years. Yeah, I can see that now. Yeah. I 484 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:21,400 had not put those two and together. That is cool. 485 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,240 The fantasy sequences are a key part of this, right, 486 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,599 you've got the so poisoning you knew you'll be pushing 487 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,160 up nighties. Yeah. So there was an additional scene that 488 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,200 was filmed that was in the movie where he's in 489 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:43,240 space using his Red Rider be begun to help out 490 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:53,119 a hero that we've discussed earlier this year, Flash Gordon Yeap, 491 00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:56,079 the Buster Crab version of Flashboard. Yes, I would have 492 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,039 loved to have seen that. Yeah, I think it's I 493 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,440 think you can see it on maybe a TV or 494 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,839 did they lose it. 495 00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:04,519 Speaker 3: I think it's gone in a warehouse. 496 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:07,039 Speaker 2: Somewhere or something. I don't know. If you Shirley fans, 497 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,160 if you've got access to that scene, if you know 498 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,039 about it, send it to us. But yeah, film the 499 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:14,200 whole scene, but decided it was just a little too much, 500 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,119 and it was you you really need threes, three is funny, 501 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,759 four is too much, and you've got soap poisoning, You've 502 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,920 got the cowboy scene, and you've got yeah, and you've 503 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,559 got the teacher hey plus and I really think that 504 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,799 the you know c is just a part two to 505 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:36,200 that Dreams. I'd go with that. 506 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: One thing I want to mention about John Hurd. We 507 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,000 talked about him as Peter McAllister. Okay, so here's the 508 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,200 funny thing about that. He was unhappy about working on 509 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,200 this movie. He did not like it. He did not 510 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,480 think it was going to do anything. He was not 511 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,440 into it, really, Yeah, But after seeing the finished product 512 00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,720 and of course the success after that, right, he realized 513 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,319 that he was wrong. So while they were shooting his 514 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,559 scenes for Home Alone two, he broke character, spoke directly 515 00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,920 through the camera and told Chris Columbus, sorry, I was wrong. 516 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,839 Speaker 2: Oh nice, pretty cool. Yeah, that's great. 517 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,559 Speaker 3: Chris Columbus says he still has that footage of Herd's 518 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:14,759 apology on a video. 519 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Yep. I remembered him, of course from 520 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Big Big. Yeah, he was a jerk coworker and big 521 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,279 you know, just come in here and say bucks bugs. 522 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: One of the scenes I wanted to talk about from 523 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,799 a Christmas story, h huh. That caught me off guard 524 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,240 when I saw it in the movie theater for the 525 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,599 first time was when he finally gets the BB gun 526 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:40,480 on Christmas morning and he goes outside, huh, and he's like, oh, yes, 527 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,079 I was so happy for him that he got the 528 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:45,079 BB gun and it goes and he's looking at that thing. 529 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,599 He's going to shoot it, and it hits that bird 530 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,720 bath and it comes right back and hits his in 531 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,119 the eye, and he's like, oh my god, shut my 532 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,519 eye out. 533 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,279 Speaker 2: That was so out of left field. 534 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:58,039 Speaker 3: When I saw it, I was shocked and laughing, like, 535 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,119 oh my gosh, he shut his eye. 536 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: You know. Such great writing too, because it's led up 537 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,799 to that moment the whole time. It's led up, and 538 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:11,680 then you're just like, oh no, oh, it's the worst. 539 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,559 And then he steps on his glasses. Oh no, oh, 540 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720 my gosh, so good, so good. 541 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about reception on the Central quick. 542 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:22,839 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean we talked. 543 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: About it briefly, but Home Alone made almost half a 544 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,680 billion dollars. It was number one for fourteen weeks. We 545 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,480 talked about how it destroyed everything else that came out 546 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:35,480 that same time period. 547 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: Yep, like Predator two came out Rocky five. Rocky five 548 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,160 was buried right as it should be. It should it 549 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,000 still should. 550 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: Be well, and Predator two wasn't any good either. Yeah, 551 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,559 they now use that term. If you get buried by 552 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,200 a movie at the box office, they call it getting 553 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:53,799 Home Alone. 554 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Nice. 555 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: Next summer when we talk about ET, Yeah, ET had 556 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,880 the same effect for all the other movies that came 557 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,480 out in June. 558 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: The guaranteed they guaranteed. So for a Christmas story, it 559 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240 wasn't such a rousing success. It wasn't bad. It wasn't 560 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,319 like it did terrible, but it wasn't some big, humongous hit. 561 00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:15,480 But this was right around the time that VHS was 562 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,000 becoming big and that cable television was becoming big, and 563 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,559 so you just saw it. It was like, oh, it's 564 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,039 Christmas time, let's get a Christmas story. A Christmas story 565 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,240 is on HBO. We should watch that tonight. You would 566 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,359 watch it. And then in the mid nineties something interesting happened, 567 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,720 and this relates back to Wizard of Oz. Ted Turner 568 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,880 had TBS and he then got T and T and 569 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,960 he decided, Hey, I'm going to start on Christmas showing 570 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,319 a movie twenty four hours a day. And the movie 571 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,440 that he picked was Wizard of os OK. And the 572 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,640 first year did pretty good and the second year it 573 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920 didn't do as good. Right, and so it's like, okay, 574 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960 well let's try It's a Wonderful Lune, which, by the way, 575 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,799 you just did a podcast with our friends from thirty 576 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:04,160 something podcast movie podcast on It's a Wonderful Life. I 577 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:07,240 watched it for the first time, which is nuts. And 578 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,519 how do you feel about it now? 579 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,359 Speaker 3: It was remarkably good. 580 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,759 Speaker 2: Right, everybody expects it to not be good because it's 581 00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:18,319 an old black white movie. It is amazing. It's amazing. 582 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, I saw you rank it in your top 583 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:25,000 three on Twitter. Am I wrong in Christmas movies? Yeah, 584 00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,960 it's very very good movie. So they that again ran 585 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,799 it for twenty four hours. First year pretty successful, second. 586 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: Year not so much so. Try number three A Christmas Story. 587 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,839 First year pretty successful, second year more successful. And for 588 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,119 the last twenty four years it has been on Christmas 589 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Eve to Christmas Day, twelve showings, twenty four hours and 590 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,200 has basically become a tradition. They didn't even come out 591 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,720 with memorabilia for the movie until two thousand and three. 592 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,359 That's insane, that piece, that piece of playing twenty four 593 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400 hours a day. Although I was very familiar with it 594 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,960 at the time they started that, I was like, oh, 595 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,319 this is a great movie. It was that that turned 596 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,480 this movie into probably the icon that it is today. 597 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,759 Speaker 3: You want to hear a funny story, Sure, so you 598 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,079 know it's Christmas time or whatever. We open presence, we 599 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440 drive to Tulsa to my in laws. 600 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,279 Speaker 2: Huh, there are approximately two hours away from my house. Okay, 601 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,279 so whenever. 602 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: We stop watching The Christmas Story in Norman and we 603 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,720 get to Tulsa, it's about the same spot. 604 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: Perfect. That's perfect. Yeah, I will say this our Christmas 605 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,079 tradition since we've had kids, so we're talking eighteen years now. 606 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Has always been we do Christmas Morning at our house 607 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,000 and then around lunchtime we go over to my wife's 608 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,480 mother's house. We have the same kind of food every year, 609 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,759 and it's great, and the TV is always on and 610 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,160 it's always playing a Christmas Story right until last year. 611 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:01,799 Last year the movie was playing, Yes, all right, buddy, 612 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160 the time is here. I heard Santas sleigh bells overhead. 613 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,480 We've got to get to bed. So before we do, 614 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:15,279 we've got to give final judgment. We have iconic movie 615 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:21,039 Home Alone, mega mega mega hit versus a Christmas Story, 616 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,240 iconic nostalgia. What do you say? 617 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,759 Speaker 3: Okay, So after analyzing these, and I told you I 618 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,599 saw both of these in the movie theater, I laughed 619 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:31,880 my butt off in both of these. 620 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: I love them. 621 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:37,759 Speaker 3: They are fantastic Christmas movies. I am a huge huge 622 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,279 John Hughes fan. I would not say I'm a huge 623 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,640 Bob Clark fan. And really the actors and stuff that 624 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,319 in Christmas Story, they didn't really do anything after it 625 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:48,799 that I'm. 626 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: In love with. 627 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,799 Speaker 3: But that's not the case with all the people from 628 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:57,160 Home Alone. But I love the vignette style of a 629 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,720 Christmas story. It's little bitty stories all stacked on top 630 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,759 of each other with the overarching I want to be 631 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,960 begun for Christmas story. Now then, I love Home Alone. 632 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,359 I've seen it a million times, but watching it over 633 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,400 and over again, it's not as enchanting as it once was. Okay, Now, 634 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,599 I love John Hughes. You will not find a bigger 635 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,519 John Hughes fan than me. I'm also a little bit 636 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,960 bitter at Home Alone because it altered the course of 637 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,279 John Hughes's career. Because Home Alone was such a gigantic, 638 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,640 mega hit, we stopped getting the Breakfast Club in Ferris 639 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Bueler's Day Off and instead we got Baby's Day Out 640 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,160 and Flubber and Curly Sue and Dennis the Menace. So 641 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,319 I kind of hold a grudge against. 642 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:43,119 Speaker 2: Home Alone because of that. 643 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: So for me, the better of these two movies is 644 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,240 a Christmas story. 645 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: D Okay, You've got die Hard in a house at Christmas, 646 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,759 and it's mixed with Looney to Dunes, slapstick, painful comedy 647 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,240 for the thumb and pinky perfect combination of Joe Peshi 648 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:10,359 and Daniel Stern. This is potentially a perfect movie. Okay, 649 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160 is It is arguably a perfect movie. Is so solidly 650 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,359 dude with a problem and Dude solves the problem, and 651 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,359 it's hysterical, it's well acted, it's well directed. I mean 652 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,920 it changed the trajectory of Chris Columbus as well. I mean, 653 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240 talk about kind of a swan song for John Hughes. 654 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,519 Although he did do Miracle on thirty fourth Street and 655 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,200 some other great ones, it really was kind of the 656 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:40,240 peak of what was an escalating career and tragically we 657 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:43,079 lost him too early. Went out for a walk one 658 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,480 day and had art attack. Yeah, and my gosh, the 659 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,680 man has given us so many iconic movies. I hate 660 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240 to say this, but I have to agree with you. 661 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,759 Oh wow, a Christmas story. Even though it's not some 662 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:02,559 great plot structure, or it's not some it's not something 663 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:04,640 that launched the careers of a whole bunch of people 664 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:06,960 or any it was even a big hit at the time. 665 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:10,880 It does something that not many movies do, which is 666 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,039 capture a memory. It captures a memory, and that memory 667 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,199 is a timeless memory because even though those things happened 668 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,639 are supposed to have happened back in the thirties and forties. 669 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,119 The scene changes, but the people are the same. Those 670 00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:28,840 are all things that I remember doing, and nobody stuck 671 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960 their tongue to a light. Well, but we did things 672 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,960 equally as stupid. There were bullies that we had to 673 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,360 deal with, there were snowballs to the face, there were 674 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320 parents who didn't understand us, and there were those Christmas 675 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,960 presents that we wanted that we knew meant the entire 676 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,760 world to us. But as it turned out, what was 677 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,039 really important was the family, right And in both of 678 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,440 these movies, that's kind of the message, is that really 679 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880 a family is what's important. But it's Christmas Story that 680 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:05,159 really brings that message home. It moves me. I tear 681 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880 up every time at the bully scene. I usually tear 682 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,719 up whenever the dad is chuckling giddily to himself because 683 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,800 he knows he's gotten his boy the present that he 684 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,519 really truly wanted. And so because of that, I've got 685 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:25,239 to say I agree, Christmas Story is my movie as well. Nice. Nice, 686 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,480 I've got two questions for you. 687 00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:29,599 Speaker 3: Okay, before we throw it out to our listeners who 688 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,039 we want to hear from you, what is your favorite 689 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:33,840 of these two movies? But I got two questions for. 690 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 2: You before you go into those questions. Yeah, I will 691 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,480 say this, Caleb, I refer to routine lying on the show. 692 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,559 He would throw a snowball at me if he knew 693 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,960 that I picked Christmas Story of a Home Alan to him, 694 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,920 Home Alone is by far the better movie. It's an 695 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,639 action packed it's the little kid shooting the bad guys. 696 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,760 It's comedy. Gold loves it. He loves it. And Christmas 697 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,440 Story he can take it or leave it. It's his 698 00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,559 Diehard it is, Yeah, it really is. And he loves 699 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,880 Diehart too. Well then, all right, so here are my 700 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,480 two questions. All right, right, yeah, okay. 701 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,559 Speaker 3: What is the one Christmas present that you always wanted 702 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400 that when you got it, you're like, man, this is it. 703 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,039 Speaker 2: No question about it. It was the Nintendo Entertainment System. 704 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,960 A year it came out. Oh I can remember with 705 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,000 ten eighty clarity seeing the advertisement for the Nintendo System. 706 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,039 You had the little robot, you had the gun. But 707 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,519 the thing that zoomed out to me was Super Mario 708 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,639 Brothers hitting that little key question mark. And I was like, 709 00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:44,280 oh my gosh, I've spent literally tens twenties, no telling 710 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,440 how much money play in this video game. My favorite 711 00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,079 video game in The arcade is now available in a 712 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:56,159 home entertainment system. I want this, This is all I want, 713 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,559 all that I want. I don't care if you get 714 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,239 me anything else. This is all that I want. And 715 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,320 I can remember it's a tradition at our house that 716 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,280 you get to open one present on Christmas Eve. Right. 717 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,519 That was the year that when I opened my Christmas 718 00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:15,920 Eve present, opened it up it was batteries. I was 719 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,719 like what. I was like, No, you can't just wrap 720 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,760 batteries and that'd be okay because it turned out Robot 721 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,320 needed batteries, and so they were the batteries to the 722 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,639 present that wasn't under the tree at the time. It 723 00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:31,599 didn't come until after I had gone to sleep. 724 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: They all had fake there. 725 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:36,159 Speaker 2: Yes, it was thanks everyone, Yeah, I said, definitely. So 726 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:36,639 how about you? 727 00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,599 Speaker 3: What was your The thing that I wanted most and 728 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,320 eventually got, although it took me like three Christmases to 729 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,280 get it was the Kinner Millennium Falcon. Oh yeah, that's 730 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,119 all I wanted. That was number one, two, three, four 731 00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:51,440 and five on my list. I want the freaking Millennium Falcon. 732 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: Right right right? And when I. 733 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: Got it, I fell in love with the I played 734 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,639 it all the time. But here's the funny story. I 735 00:37:57,679 --> 00:37:58,519 had it all set. 736 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: Up with all my guys. I was playing with it 737 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:01,880 a good time. It's time for bed, Get in bed. 738 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,199 Speaker 3: I had a bunk bed, fell off my bunk bed 739 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719 one time my entire life. In the middle of the night, 740 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,800 I rolled out, fell off the top, bug landed on 741 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,440 my Millennium falcon and smashed it and never replaced it. 742 00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: That is heartbreaking. I know it was heartbreaking real quick. Yeah, 743 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,679 there's a movie that's just come out. I think it's 744 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:21,360 on Netflix or something like that. I've just seen the 745 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,519 preview four. But it's called eight Bit Christmas. 746 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 747 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: It's obviously a remake type thing of a Christmas Story, 748 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,760 except instead of a red writer be begun, it's a 749 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,119 Nintendo entertainment So fantastic. So I got to go check 750 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,199 that one out. Hopefully it's it's good. It looks like 751 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,639 it's got a six point seven on IMDb though. 752 00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,119 Speaker 3: So all right, well we want to hear from you guys, 753 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,719 which one of these two classic Christmas movie. 754 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: I forgot to ask my second question. 755 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 3: All right, here's your second question. You're ready for this? Yeah, 756 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,320 all right, we've covered five Christmas movies. Now, okay, Diehard, 757 00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,679 leave the Weapon Home Alone, Christmas Story, and the Star 758 00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,800 Wars Holiday Special. 759 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:02,679 Speaker 2: Give me your ranking one through five? 760 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,119 Speaker 3: Ready said, go oh my gosh, that's oh my gosh. 761 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So if I'm walking out the door, die Hard 762 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,679 is number one with that question. Okay, uh, number. 763 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:25,639 Speaker 7: Two, it's so hard, Okay, die Hard, A Christmas Story 764 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,079 Home Alone, lethal Weapon, and. 765 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever ever going to watch Star 766 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,639 Wars Special. Yeah, okay, you're crazy. They're all close. I mean, 767 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,480 I love them all. I would watch any of them anytimes. 768 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,159 And they're fantastic movies. That's fair. You're forcing me into 769 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,960 a hole here, all right, here you go you ready? Yeah, 770 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:45,440 die Hard, lethal Weapon? 771 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,519 Speaker 3: Ye, a Christmas Story Home Alone, And despite my unusual 772 00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:53,719 affection for the Star Wars Holiday Special, it's definitely fit right. 773 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, okay. 774 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,559 Speaker 9: Now that we've given our ranks, we are going to 775 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,239 have a little special Shirley showcase and one of our 776 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,480 good friends, author extraordinary mister Van Allen Plexico, and. 777 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,199 Speaker 3: Here's how he ranked our five Christmas podcasts. 778 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 5: Hey guys, Van Allen Plexico here from the White Rocket 779 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,800 Entertainment Network. You have asked me to rank these five 780 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:37,400 Christmas related features, and so here goes counting down from 781 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,519 number five. At number five, we have a Christmas Story. 782 00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,159 I have never understood why people obsess over this movie. 783 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,000 It's just kind of weird and the lamp thing and 784 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:51,199 the BB gun and it's almost like whatever. Moving on 785 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,920 number four home alone, it's not my cup of tea either, 786 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,960 but at least it's got some action and wacky violence 787 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,679 to keep us all entertained. And what more can we 788 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,159 ask for at Christmas time than wacky violence? 789 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,039 Speaker 2: Exactly? 790 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,639 Speaker 5: And speaking of wacky violence, at number three comes Lethal Weapon. 791 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,159 I've never loved this movie. I've never considered it a 792 00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,400 great movie, but it's a pretty decent one. And probably 793 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,119 most folks would say that Lethal Weapon two is a 794 00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,679 better Lethal Weapon movie. But that being said, this one 795 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,360 ranks right in the middle for me. I mean, the 796 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,519 two lead actors are pretty good, and it has some 797 00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:28,880 fun stuff in it. I'll even forgive Shane Black for 798 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,559 a ruining iron Man with the Iron Man three because 799 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,719 this is a pretty good movie. So number three is 800 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,480 Lethal Weapon. Number two The Star Wars Holiday Special an 801 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,760 utter glorious train wreck. In all other respects, it is 802 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,960 rightfully derided in that fashion by fans and has been 803 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,280 for over forty years. I remember watching it when it aired, 804 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,239 and I wondered what in the world I was seeing. 805 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,840 If I'd been a little bit older, I'd have been 806 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,199 wondering what kind of drugs were involved in the creation 807 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,320 of this special? But how is it ranked number two? 808 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,800 Because it is memorable, It is an iconic event in 809 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:07,719 Star Wars history, and most importantly, it introduces Boba Fett. Yes, 810 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,920 he's a cartoon and not a very good cartoon, but 811 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,280 he's the greatest Star Wars character of all and so 812 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,679 the fact that it introduces Boba fet ranks this number 813 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,559 two all time on the list of these five entertainments 814 00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,119 and number one? Is this even a question? Die Hard? 815 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: Come on? 816 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 5: It's so much a Christmas movie that when I saw 817 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,280 it in the theater in the middle of a blazing 818 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,119 hot summer in nineteen eighty eight, when I left the theater, 819 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,920 I was fully expecting to be freezing cold. When I 820 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,360 got outside, I thought there'd be snow on the ground. 821 00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,199 I thought Christmas music would be playing from every car 822 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,599 that passed by. I fully expected it to be snowing 823 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,440 when I left the theater, in like July of nineteen 824 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,360 eighty eight, after seeing this movie. It's so great. It's 825 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,920 set up a whole genre of action movies of this type, 826 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,119 and it is so very Christmas y. All right, there 827 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:56,840 you go. That is your five movies or entertainments that 828 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,360 you wanted me to rank, and I have ranked them. 829 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,599 I'm sure others will disagree, but that's my ranking. I 830 00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,599 am Van Allen Plexiico. Check out all my shows by 831 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:08,119 going to www dot plexiico dot net, p l e 832 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,599 Xico dot net, or search White Rocket on any pod app. 833 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 9: Oh wow, Okay, so you think you know a guy, 834 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,079 I'm I'm I'm baffled here, But I mean he came 835 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,079 strong with the opinion. 836 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,599 Speaker 2: He came strong with it, even though I totally disagree 837 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,719 with what he had to say about most of it. 838 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm on board that Diehard's the best. But what 839 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,440 what what? What? 840 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: What do you think? 841 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,119 Speaker 4: Man? 842 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 9: What do you think about those rankings? 843 00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 2: I think it's strong. 844 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 3: He's coming with Star Wars Holiday Special number two that 845 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,679 is amazing. He gives a lot of credit because of 846 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,119 both off. 847 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,039 Speaker 2: I think it's great. 848 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,159 Speaker 3: He's a little bit hard on on Home Alone and. 849 00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:47,039 Speaker 2: The Christmas story and lethal weapon and leath a weapon. 850 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:47,679 That's true. 851 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 9: I guess he's I understand he's a little bit bitter 852 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,760 about what he did with Ironman three. 853 00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:56,679 Speaker 3: But he hates Ironman three. He wants to meet Shane 854 00:43:56,679 --> 00:43:58,119 Black in a dark alley sometime. 855 00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 9: It's hilarious. Van Allen Plexo, Thank you very much, sir. 856 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,519 That was awesome and I love it. And a Merry Christmas. 857 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: Thanks Man, appreciate you, man. Thank you to everybody who's 858 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,920 made this special year. Merry Christmas to everybody. God bless 859 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,119 us everything. Thank you for joining us and on our fun. 860 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,639 We hope to see you in season three. We're gonna 861 00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:19,519 take some time off. 862 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: We're gonna take some time off. It'll probably be February 863 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,679 because we've got the fiftieth anniversary of The Godfather coming up. 864 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,119 We've got the new release of The Batman coming up, 865 00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,920 and we're going to be doing some special episodes on 866 00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:38,559 those and before we go. It takes us literally hours 867 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,119 and hours to put just one of these episodes together. 868 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,280 So if you can, if you feel like giving us 869 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000 a Christmas present this year for next year, go to 870 00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:51,079 our Patreon page. It's patreon dot com. Slash Shirly Podcast, 871 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,480 and you can help us out with the monthly donation, 872 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,960 But even if we had to do it for free, 873 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,920 we would do it because there are some amazing people 874 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,760 that we've met and would not have known them and 875 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,519 met them but through this podcast. And so we want 876 00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:07,599 to take this time to say thank you and Merry 877 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,159 Christmas to a select group of folks. That's right. 878 00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 3: So first of all our patrons, we want to thank 879 00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:17,400 Addie Ayshino, Cameron Ecker, Travis Laslie, Chris Bauer, Dayton Johnson, 880 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,599 Chris and Jeanie, Alexander, Alan Is Vaccinated, Yep, Dale Selby, 881 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,760 Brad Moore, Christopher Walketon, and of course James Buckley, our 882 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,719 good friend and Patrion. 883 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 2: Very first one. Yeah, Jonathan Tweety's the one fan that 884 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,079 we've met in person at this point that was really cool. 885 00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:35,159 We've got good to dinner with him. 886 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 887 00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. We also have some guys who routinely communicate with 888 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,719 us on Facebook who are always giving us some great 889 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,119 insight into episodes past and potentially future. We've got Scott Rothschild, 890 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,039 We've got Chris Weber who did the Shirley showcase for us. 891 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,320 We've got Rocky Chandler, Derek el Adam Weinribb. We've got 892 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,280 Moe and Max from the In the Tower podcast. Be 893 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,960 sure and go check that out. We've got our friends 894 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 from the thirty something podcast. We've got John and Pat 895 00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:11,039 and Bow and Jeff and yeah, all of those guys. 896 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,719 Merry Christmas, guys. We're sorry we're missing out on doing 897 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,320 a Christmas episode with you this year. We will we 898 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,119 will catch you in twenty twenty two. Maybe. 899 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,119 Speaker 3: You know who else we really need to think this 900 00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:23,719 year is our good buddy David Wright. He did four 901 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,840 episodes with us. Step Dave was our hip hop rap expert. 902 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,119 Speaker 2: We got to just sit back and live in the 903 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:35,239 limelight as he waxed poetic on all of that rap history. 904 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,800 And it was awesome, truly truly great time. Some other 905 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:43,559 Facebook guys who routinely communicate with us, Nick Hinsley. 906 00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 3: Jay Reed, Ryan Ware, Ainwater, Neil Rudnick. And then we 907 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,280 want to thank everybody who's taken the time to record 908 00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,559 our show Showcase. Yeah, we know that takes time, kind 909 00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,119 of effort. Yeah, and we appreciate you guys contributing to our. 910 00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:01,079 Speaker 2: Show, right, we really do, guys. It's been another great 911 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,119 season in the books. I can't tell you how moved 912 00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,480 I am that you continue to listen to us and 913 00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,480 we continue to grow. Thank you so much, and Merry Christmas, 914 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,280 Merry Christmas. Happy do you. 915 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm bound to thank you for it.