Speaker 1: So what have you guys been up too lately? And
Speaker 1: since you know you're so busy, you're on this La
Speaker 1: tour right now.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily call it a tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a tour. This is this is second time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like this is like our second home. It's like
Speaker 3: we're being home right now. But we just out here
Speaker 3: shooting some content. I just wanted to take a trip.
Speaker 3: A group that Rory managers has a show tonight, Emotional
Speaker 3: Oranges at the.
Speaker 4: Nova, right Yeah, no, yeah, so no, well Nova, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: So came out here for that and just get out
Speaker 3: of the city for for a couple of days and to.
Speaker 2: Do some functionhit too, not just work.
Speaker 1: Is this the first time you guys been back to
Speaker 1: LA since the pandemic started?
Speaker 2: No? I was, actually, which sounds very irresponsible of me.
Speaker 2: I was coming back and forth more during the pandemic
Speaker 2: in LA because planes were empty, hotels were empty, the
Speaker 2: streets were empty. It was more productive.
Speaker 4: Actually for me.
Speaker 5: Nice. So would you say COVID was a gift or
Speaker 5: a curse for you?
Speaker 2: I would I would say neither. Really, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think I learned shit about my self during COVID that
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have learned had it not been a pandemic,
Speaker 2: and I was forced to seal myself. But you know,
Speaker 2: of course it fucked up a lot of deals, but
Speaker 2: also made new ones. So I can't really say. I
Speaker 2: think what was supposed to happen happen, and how you
Speaker 2: reacted to it is how you're gonna view it.
Speaker 4: Yea, it wasn't too bad. I've been quarantining for about
Speaker 4: six years. Anyway.
Speaker 3: I love being home, so it's it was not It
Speaker 3: wasn't much of a difference for me, other than not
Speaker 3: being able to go to you know, restaurants and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. That was kind of weird. But the pandemic
Speaker 3: for me, just it just gave us, or gave me
Speaker 3: time to reflect and think about a lot of things
Speaker 3: and plan and you know, look forward to the future.
Speaker 3: I think it gave us in a weird way. It
Speaker 3: gave us time. So I'm not too mad about the pandemic.
Speaker 3: I mean, it fucked the business. A lot of my
Speaker 3: favorite spots and no longer. They haven't survived. A lot
Speaker 3: of you know, restaurants I liked in New York City.
Speaker 3: But other than that, you know, it's it wasn't too bad.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the comment podcasting has become the new
Speaker 1: mixtape or new merch Can you elaborate a little bit
Speaker 1: more on that.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: I think like every wave that does come as like
Speaker 2: when the mixtape came out, everyone that shouldn't be rapping
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that looks easy, this is a wave,
Speaker 2: let me go do it, and it just started this
Speaker 2: influx of so many people doing it when they shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been. I feel like that happened when it became
Speaker 2: easier to print T shirts. Everyone started a T shirt
Speaker 2: company and now it's just flooded with terrible T shirts
Speaker 2: and it almost makes it harder for like the people
Speaker 2: that are actually talented to get through because it's just
Speaker 2: a fucking million people trying to do the same thing,
Speaker 2: and they're only doing it because they see it successful.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't do it if it wasn't. There's people that
Speaker 2: made mixtapes because they wanted to and would have anyways.
Speaker 2: It's people that make clothes because they would have anyways. Podcasters,
Speaker 2: I think, is the same thing because it appears really easy.
Speaker 3: You set up a mic, and it's a lot of
Speaker 3: money round so you know, whenever people see a lot
Speaker 3: of money, they're gonna try.
Speaker 4: To hand at it.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's kind of like this, you know,
Speaker 1: the struggle with myself included is you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: on your you guys' level yet, But I feel like
Speaker 1: at the same time as people are like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: so easy, and so many people are going to do it,
Speaker 1: but it's like you got to put in the hours
Speaker 1: and the work first before you see that money, the
Speaker 1: long term money, especially because it's like you don't know
Speaker 1: if people are gonna like you, they don't know you're
Speaker 1: gonna say, the dynamic between you know, the group of
Speaker 1: things and all those other little things that come into
Speaker 1: factors where it's like anybody can have a show, but
Speaker 1: it's like being successful and then maintaining that longevity is
Speaker 1: what I really feel like what you know you guys
Speaker 1: have done and showed a great example of that.
Speaker 2: I think podcasting, though, might even be the worst wave
Speaker 2: that people are starting at least, like when people wrapped,
Speaker 2: you could just like not listen to just turn the
Speaker 2: ship off. And like with the T shirts, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure they don't have to wear the
Speaker 2: T shirts. I'm sure, there's a pile of shirt. Well,
Speaker 2: you have to think about the earth they.
Speaker 4: Know I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I would change this.
Speaker 5: You have to make sure that you haven't listen.
Speaker 4: I love t shirts.
Speaker 2: Please give me one wed but you gotta think like
Speaker 2: the level of ego of the people now that are
Speaker 2: like I bet everyone wants to hear me talk, because
Speaker 2: I struggle with that and people to some degree want
Speaker 2: to hear me talk. I'm like, do people really want
Speaker 2: my opinion on this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that too, because for me this was like,
Speaker 1: while the opposite side was this was the first time
Speaker 1: that I feel like people really got to hear my.
Speaker 5: Voice and my opinions about things.
Speaker 1: So it kind of gave me more of a chance
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable with my fans and another side and
Speaker 1: not just always sexual, where it's like there's other components
Speaker 1: to me other than things that I've done in the
Speaker 1: past and you know, in business stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of given me more of
Speaker 1: a voice too, where it's like, if they weren't gonna
Speaker 1: listen to me or not, I was gonna make them listen.
Speaker 2: Where have you drawn the line with that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I think each show and each guest kind
Speaker 1: of brings a little bit more to that because, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, like yeah, I have notes, this, whatever,
Speaker 1: but it's really structured on a base of conversation going
Speaker 1: back and forth with someone and getting something authentic, and
Speaker 1: you can't do that other than having a conversation like this.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't when someone's asking me something,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the truth because I have nothing to
Speaker 1: really hide. But I also haven't been asked something that
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't know. Maybe sometimes my words
Speaker 1: have been not the right choice words to say them
Speaker 1: correctly that way didn't come out of the way it
Speaker 1: probably should have. But it's just, you know, comes from
Speaker 1: a place of honesty, and that's you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to kind of change the narrative of like I
Speaker 1: can do more than just porn, you know, I'm crossing
Speaker 1: over to a you know, thing of doing media and
Speaker 1: doing interviews and doing conversations with people, and there's more
Speaker 1: components to myself other than just my porn career that I've.
Speaker 5: Done in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure people just wanted to hear about
Speaker 2: that as well.
Speaker 1: But true and That's what's the great thing is because
Speaker 1: that is a part of me, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: that is something that you know, it's definitely a big
Speaker 1: part of my life and which has given me the
Speaker 1: platform that I have today and people want to know
Speaker 1: how I got there. But it's also too, it's like
Speaker 1: it's just about life, you know, life things and like
Speaker 1: what my view is on stuff that nobody's really either asked,
Speaker 1: so now it's like bringing it to the table and
Speaker 1: making it known.
Speaker 2: What what have been the differences and the similarities between
Speaker 2: those two careers.
Speaker 1: The similarities well, I'm not fucking anyone on my show now,
Speaker 1: that's a big one.
Speaker 3: Well maybe just a light maybe the lights in the
Speaker 3: cameras are only similarities maybe.
Speaker 1: To a I mean I get, I mean yeah really,
Speaker 1: I mean other than the entertainment aspect of it and bringing,
Speaker 1: you know, entertaining people, just on a different level, you know,
Speaker 1: there's that aspect too, It's just I'm doing it different,
Speaker 1: being creatively different.
Speaker 5: For me.
Speaker 1: I have always been an artist and like like to
Speaker 1: give content, but I have don't always known how to
Speaker 1: deliver it. And me not even knowing four years ago
Speaker 1: that podcasting was something that I would want to do,
Speaker 1: or even knowing that I could be good at it
Speaker 1: or anything like that, or having the you know, conversations
Speaker 1: with people that could actually maintain depth or anything, because
Speaker 1: sometimes people could talk about anything, but nobody wants to
Speaker 1: listen to it for sure, you know, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of kind of have to narrate ways through that.
Speaker 4: So you're doing a great job though.
Speaker 5: Thank you. How long have you been a Jada Stevens fan?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I see you dropping those money bag emojis.
Speaker 4: I see it, Jada. I've been a Jada fan.
Speaker 5: For I'm a Jada fan.
Speaker 1: Jada is definitely one of the homies. She's definitely one
Speaker 1: of the most natural.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, she said, Jada. Well, yes, I'm sorry. Jada
Speaker 3: Stevens was versus. I know you got to see your
Speaker 3: very good lot shit.
Speaker 4: I know, I get it.
Speaker 5: Are you not Jada Stevens fan?
Speaker 2: I am? Are you aware of their history in our
Speaker 2: live show?
Speaker 1: I did hear that that she was on the show
Speaker 1: that I think Joe brought her out for you. I
Speaker 1: don't exactly know the whole promise of it, but I
Speaker 1: know that she surprised you, and I think she gave
Speaker 1: you a lap dance or something.
Speaker 4: In that nature, something something of that.
Speaker 1: You explained a little bit more Intelli, it was a experience.
Speaker 1: Were you nervous?
Speaker 5: Did you know that you have any idea about that
Speaker 5: she was going to come on the show?
Speaker 4: No? I didn't. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: So they the show was pretty much over at that point,
Speaker 3: and they was like, well, you know, wait, Mare, We're
Speaker 3: going to take you off stage real quick.
Speaker 4: We have a surprise. I'm like, oh, here they go.
Speaker 3: So we in New York. I'm thinking they about to
Speaker 3: play a prank. They're about to have some crazy shit
Speaker 3: happened to embarrass me whatever.
Speaker 5: And you're used to that kind of behavior.
Speaker 2: But the segment was for the love of more that
Speaker 2: we were doing. Yeah, he was blindfolded.
Speaker 3: I was blindfolded, and she was asking questions and then
Speaker 3: she said can she touch me? And I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was getting myself into. And
Speaker 3: I took the blindfold off and I saw it was
Speaker 3: Jada and we just both laughed because we had been
Speaker 3: communicating like off.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like brand New just talking her. You kind
Speaker 5: of already knew her.
Speaker 4: Well not, I wouldn't say we exchanged text mess.
Speaker 5: You virtually knew each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and we were.
Speaker 5: Gonna use were they dirty tacks messages? Nah?
Speaker 4: Honestly, there wasn't even nothing dirty.
Speaker 3: It was just like, yo, whenever you're in LA, let's
Speaker 3: link up, let's you know, get something to eat, let's chill,
Speaker 3: let's smoke. I was like, all right, cool, So it
Speaker 3: was it was pretty fun to see her, like, like
Speaker 3: to meet her like that.
Speaker 4: That was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Did it kind of did you think that that's how
Speaker 1: that what that scenario would go? Did you have an
Speaker 1: expectation to what that was or were you like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you're real, because for me, it's always like
Speaker 1: you're here, like can I pinch?
Speaker 5: It was good, Yeah, I'm here. I'm all real.
Speaker 3: It was the weirdest shit, Like to take my blonde
Speaker 3: fold off and see j like that was the last
Speaker 3: person I thought was sitting on my lap, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I was expecting to.
Speaker 1: See you immediately get harder because you're like, oh damn.
Speaker 4: Na, I was no.
Speaker 3: I just I just laughed because I really she was
Speaker 3: the last person I was expecting to see.
Speaker 4: So that was like a real surprise for me. So
Speaker 4: it wasn't even a.
Speaker 3: Sexual thing, but then after it was like, well, damn,
Speaker 3: she looks she looks better in person, but she's super cool.
Speaker 2: Though, are you really a fan? If you didn't, you
Speaker 2: couldn't tell by her voice that it was her. I'm
Speaker 2: just questioning your fandomness.
Speaker 1: You know what, now that I think about it, I
Speaker 1: thought it was somebody else asking because like, if you
Speaker 1: know the voice, you would.
Speaker 5: Kind of yeah.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: But you know what, now that I think about it,
Speaker 3: it's just that she was the last person on my mind, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, Like I just have it on
Speaker 5: mute the whole time and never hear it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I need no, I need, I need
Speaker 4: the sounds. I need to listen.
Speaker 2: I need the entire storyline before.
Speaker 5: So you're like a whole storyline, just not sex.
Speaker 1: You have to watch like a whole, like vignette of
Speaker 1: like a scenario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a scenario. I like to get so
Speaker 2: involved into it that I'm sitting there like, damn, hope,
Speaker 2: I hope he fucks. I want to get lost, but
Speaker 2: hope gives?
Speaker 1: Do you create your own since you're so vivid into
Speaker 1: this whole, Like you said.
Speaker 2: Like role play in my actually haven't. I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: against it. I'm just kind of a silly person and
Speaker 2: like very sarcastic, and the people, the people I would
Speaker 2: do it with know me and know my sarcast so
Speaker 2: I would look at their face. I just I don't
Speaker 2: think I would get through.
Speaker 5: It and turn it into being sexy. It would only
Speaker 5: just be comical.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we want to set up some
Speaker 2: type of like stand up comedian role play ship and
Speaker 2: like we can laugh and joke and then fuck, but.
Speaker 1: Like that though, it could be like either dominant submissive
Speaker 1: or like being role playing and like other types of demeanors,
Speaker 1: not just costume type of.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, yeah, I've tried to.
Speaker 5: Be a bad thing.
Speaker 1: You can get sent to detention. You can like you know,
Speaker 1: you can do all kinds of.
Speaker 4: Things that PTSD.
Speaker 3: I really got sent to detention. I don't want to
Speaker 3: play any fuck No, no.
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: My teachers look nothing like the teachers that I hate
Speaker 3: know the teachers now. I don't know how these high
Speaker 3: school students are making it through. High school teachers are phenomenal.
Speaker 4: They look great.
Speaker 5: For my so you never had on a teacher back
Speaker 5: in the day.
Speaker 3: If I showed you my tea back in the day.
Speaker 3: No disrespect to anyone teachers that may see this, but
Speaker 3: y'all will not looking at all I had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one teacher in my entire school career
Speaker 2: that was like sort of attractive. And then when I
Speaker 2: think back, she wasn't attractive. She was just next to
Speaker 2: all the old teachers, like she just happened to be
Speaker 2: the best options jail Like that is like I guess
Speaker 2: prison in this sense, Like, oh, I guess I'll settle
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 4: This is all I got, all right? Cool?
Speaker 1: So you guys do a lot of top ten lists.
Speaker 1: What are your top five porn stars of all time?
Speaker 2: Mm?
Speaker 4: Hmm of all times, of all time.
Speaker 2: I feel I don't know if I'm the right person.
Speaker 4: Well, Jada, give me some time.
Speaker 5: But you can't hear me. This doesn't work for you.
Speaker 4: For me. Well, I give you my five Jada Stevens.
Speaker 4: Remember what h Texas?
Speaker 5: But is that only because I'm sitting in this chair
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 4: No, I wish I was the chair right now. Look
Speaker 4: at you there, Alexis Texas. It is a new one
Speaker 4: that I love.
Speaker 5: Who's number three?
Speaker 4: Number three?
Speaker 5: Who's the new one? She's like new booty like the last.
Speaker 3: Two years or like uh number three. I like Savannah
Speaker 3: Bond a lot.
Speaker 5: Do I know that name? Is she blonde?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't shot in so long, so like newer,
Speaker 1: newer people, she's not new, but I just don't really
Speaker 1: know the new ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the classics. You know you've got classic classics,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Roxy final got to be in there though. No, Roxy,
Speaker 2: she was.
Speaker 5: One of I think the.
Speaker 1: When did I meet her? She was one of the
Speaker 1: first girls I met. But she's definitely very sexy.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, Roxy is cool, skin diamonds. Her energy for me,
Speaker 2: it's not even so much. She's a very pretty girl,
Speaker 2: but like energy. No, she's very beautiful, but it's her
Speaker 2: energy that I think.
Speaker 4: Really like her energy.
Speaker 2: I do not I feel take it?
Speaker 1: You feel like you can feel that way through.
Speaker 5: The screen or how do you watch on your phone
Speaker 5: or on the computer.
Speaker 2: Porn stars are entertainers, so they're entertaining. I get that
Speaker 2: from the entertainment. I don't know, but she.
Speaker 5: Didn't say that about anybody else. That is why I
Speaker 5: say that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I feel from her, from how she
Speaker 2: entertains she gives off that energy point or being.
Speaker 1: I fucked it every time, like when she's being like
Speaker 1: you're entranced by her what she's got going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like she would be a girl after sex.
Speaker 2: We'd have a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Okay, So after sex are usually like a cuddler and
Speaker 1: you talk to somebody or you like, get the fuck.
Speaker 5: Away from me.
Speaker 4: I'm a cuddler.
Speaker 3: It depends on how nasty it was. If it was
Speaker 3: like super nasty, you'll get away from me.
Speaker 1: Like if she's squirting all over the place, you don't
Speaker 1: want to touch and be in your own like juices
Speaker 1: or like that, or like you're like dogging her out
Speaker 1: and doing something like foul like when you're nasty described.
Speaker 3: No, if she's squirting all over the place, then after
Speaker 3: it's like it's great during, but then it's like the cleanup.
Speaker 4: We just got to laugh and be like, yo, this
Speaker 4: is like something.
Speaker 5: You do unnecessarily, like you don't really do.
Speaker 2: All of that builds the bonding experience after sex. Now yeah,
Speaker 2: now we're both taking the sheets off the bed and
Speaker 2: like this is really how you get to know each other.
Speaker 5: You're like cleaning up after it with each other.
Speaker 2: Well after i'd I'll then help clean it up.
Speaker 1: Your sheets and soaking you like you like laying in
Speaker 1: the west spot.
Speaker 5: I am a wet spot. So you know what, I know,
Speaker 5: like I created, you know, it happens.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like something I definitely will, you know,
Speaker 1: tend to what I need to attend to at the time.
Speaker 5: But I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: Jump up right away and be like, oh yes, we
Speaker 1: need to like go and clean and be like some
Speaker 1: kind of freak like that.
Speaker 5: I definitely need a little like a little pause.
Speaker 4: Women hate get drunk.
Speaker 5: You know, you need a little like reset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, women hate the fact that I jump in the
Speaker 3: shower right after.
Speaker 4: They hate that.
Speaker 5: But I'm just like you like that before you do
Speaker 5: it as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a clean I'm a clean free How many
Speaker 3: how many times a day do you shower at least
Speaker 3: twice at least.
Speaker 1: Twice and you're having sexual intercourse? How many times in
Speaker 1: between that you're having.
Speaker 4: Before after and this, well before we before we you
Speaker 4: have sex? You know? Then just a quick right.
Speaker 2: Between rounds two, let me jump in. How do you
Speaker 2: grow up?
Speaker 1: But how do you not like have the chemistry be
Speaker 1: like not there anymore when you're like, well hold on,
Speaker 1: let me go clean up real quick, when.
Speaker 3: You're gonna fuck her again, because it's not like right after.
Speaker 3: We feel like if it's like something where it's back
Speaker 3: to back, then of course you're not taking the shower
Speaker 3: like you're just that horny and it's that you know,
Speaker 3: it's that type of moment. But if we're like home chilling,
Speaker 3: we just have sex, and it's like are we about
Speaker 3: to eat?
Speaker 5: Are you making her take a shower with you before
Speaker 5: she can?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: She can, but are you making it a requirement?
Speaker 4: No, it's not a requirement.
Speaker 2: Listen, the older the older. I've gotten one. Shower sex sucks.
Speaker 2: It's overrated. I'm not into it actually being.
Speaker 1: A shower with somebody. But I don't like shower sex.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not comfortable for me at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know how a guy could be comfortable in
Speaker 1: that situation.
Speaker 4: If you have a big enough shower, then it could
Speaker 4: be fun.
Speaker 5: I have like a whole like it's a party room.
Speaker 5: It still doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure sex for you is pretty like you're like,
Speaker 4: all right, whatever.
Speaker 5: No, but it's not though, Like I even though.
Speaker 4: I still get turned on like a wait, now, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm human, I have a pulse. I'm a fucking I
Speaker 1: used to be a porn star. I wasn't just did
Speaker 1: it just for the money. I actually liked being sexual
Speaker 1: and having sex like I For me, that's how I
Speaker 1: feel like I expressed myself. Like I call it my art,
Speaker 1: but that's how I expressed myself with my sensuality, my sexuality.
Speaker 5: Like I was a curvy girl.
Speaker 1: Like nobody was really flaunting their curves like that or
Speaker 1: giving you know, that kind of image to anybody. So
Speaker 1: for me, I soaked it all up, you know, like
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed myself. But no, even now, like it's different.
Speaker 1: I think I there's different things that turned me on.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more I'm more demi sexual where
Speaker 1: I have to be like mind fucked first to be
Speaker 1: like now I want to think about fucking you, okay,
Speaker 1: Like it takes more to get into that thing. But
Speaker 1: it's not doesn't mean that I'm not intrigued or I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't get off to certain things. I definitely
Speaker 1: still have orgasms, I definitely still have wet dreams.
Speaker 5: I still have all.
Speaker 1: Those things that didn't get taken away from porn just
Speaker 1: made it worse.
Speaker 2: This might be a cliche question. I'm sure you've been asked,
Speaker 2: but I am interested. What is the difference between the
Speaker 2: sex you're having when you're working in the sex you're
Speaker 2: having with somebody off camera in your own personal life.
Speaker 5: It's a big difference.
Speaker 1: So people, you know, think, like, obviously you're watching the
Speaker 1: movies all these things, and you.
Speaker 5: See what's edited.
Speaker 1: You know, guys are in you know, production stuff as well,
Speaker 1: So even though you do stuff, you don't run it
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 5: So sometimes you know, in regular.
Speaker 1: Scenes like it would we cliche be called a gonzo
Speaker 1: scene that's strictly sex and no storyline. You'll be fucking
Speaker 1: for like forty five minutes, but they may use I mean,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like an hour and a half, but
Speaker 1: they may use only like thirty to forty minutes of it.
Speaker 1: So a lot of it's taken out. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: starting and stopping. Maybe it wasn't good, like they're telling
Speaker 1: you to open up or in your personal life, no
Speaker 1: one's telling you anything. You don't have to be open
Speaker 1: to a camera. You're more like closed off. It's doing
Speaker 1: what you want to do, so it's more intimate. I
Speaker 1: feel like important. It's more like I used to say
Speaker 1: that I'm a sexual athlete.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's I'm doing a job and I'm giving a service
Speaker 1: to people, helping people want orgasm, aunt of time.
Speaker 3: I'm a sexual athlete too or just But do you
Speaker 3: get paid for it?
Speaker 4: No, I have a bad.
Speaker 5: Don't let me let me find out I don't have.
Speaker 4: I gotta talk to my agent about this.
Speaker 2: You gotta st you at the Boys and Girls Club.
Speaker 2: You're not You're not mistate.
Speaker 4: That I'm I'm a bit of a sexual athlete, Alexis.
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: So what makes you to yourself claim that this title
Speaker 1: of a sexual athlete?
Speaker 4: Well, I just enjoy having sex, I guess.
Speaker 1: And so are you a nympho? Are you a sex addict?
Speaker 1: Do you have an issue? Do you need, like, you know,
Speaker 1: an intervention? Do we need to talk about this?
Speaker 5: Mom?
Speaker 4: We could talk about it. But no, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not a sex addicant. I just enjoy, Like if
Speaker 3: I'm attracted to a woman and we catch a vibe
Speaker 3: and the energy and the chemistry is did and I
Speaker 3: just like I want to have sex with her.
Speaker 1: So, but is this just with the like individual type
Speaker 1: of person like like in a relationship type setting, or
Speaker 1: are you having multiple sexual relationships with multiple women?
Speaker 4: Not multiple women?
Speaker 1: No, you don't have a roster that you're like going
Speaker 1: through a whole rolodex of things those days.
Speaker 4: That was in my younger years. I can't. That's it's
Speaker 4: too much work.
Speaker 2: Does that always the man answer?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Because man, I mean when you when you've been fucking. No,
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm honest, I don't have a roster, man,
Speaker 4: I don't my roster days over.
Speaker 3: At least absolutely, you have to have at least five
Speaker 3: women on rotation.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I feel it takes at least three to
Speaker 1: be on a roster. At least three, Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's you know, obviously, you know, team wise,
Speaker 1: it's five, like you know, the whole starting line up
Speaker 1: kind of thing, got it.
Speaker 5: But I feel like at least three is like a minimum.
Speaker 5: I feel like you.
Speaker 3: Think that women always has at least three guys that
Speaker 3: she's she can currently rewind? Do you think that a
Speaker 3: woman always has at least three guys.
Speaker 4: Can she can fuck?
Speaker 1: No? I don't think it's always I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: when you're on that kind of time and you're trying
Speaker 1: to do like you're like fucking people are doing in
Speaker 1: the roster's type of situation at least three minimum, Okay,
Speaker 1: But nowadays, like even with COVID and everything, it made
Speaker 1: times really hard for people because to have that on
Speaker 1: deck and even know where fucking people were.
Speaker 3: I'm just like people were fucking during COVID after COVID.
Speaker 4: Not one of my really no at all. No, wow, Okay,
Speaker 4: that is interesting.
Speaker 2: One of my very good friends that is a woman,
Speaker 2: said she got to the point that she just fucked
Speaker 2: the dude down the hall, like they would both go
Speaker 2: out to get their groceries delivery, and it was just like,
Speaker 2: at this point, like let me just do it. And
Speaker 2: she said it was the best decision because throughout six
Speaker 2: months she could at least just walk down the hall.
Speaker 2: She knew he was staying in his crib and she
Speaker 2: was staying in his crib, in her crib.
Speaker 4: I'm never fucking somebody that lives in my.
Speaker 5: See pity sex, No, don't give me a pity. She said.
Speaker 2: She would never fucking had it not been a pandemic.
Speaker 2: Live right there No, that's I need to nut. And
Speaker 2: this is a but she said COVID. You wouldn't get
Speaker 2: this if it was not for COVID. That's where time's
Speaker 2: called for desperate measures. I'll put it this way. Let's
Speaker 2: let's do the guy thing. This happened long, long time ago.
Speaker 2: I don't do this any anymore anymore. You know the
Speaker 2: typical time when you was looking to funk at the
Speaker 2: end of the night, and you was at the bar
Speaker 2: or the club or the house party or whatever, and
Speaker 2: your standards dropped.
Speaker 1: Your scouting the party to see which one's too drunk,
Speaker 1: who's not, whatever, to stay away from people twist you're
Speaker 1: scouting the room to see.
Speaker 4: Who's drunk rory.
Speaker 5: No, you stay away from the sloppy ones to because
Speaker 5: it's just too much trouble.
Speaker 2: You just like standards as the hours go at times,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, as men, your standards lower as the
Speaker 2: clock goes up. Sometimes you gotta get a shot off. Yes,
Speaker 2: I can't say that women aren't allowed to do that too.
Speaker 2: It was a middle pandemic. She wanted to fuck.
Speaker 5: No said she wasn't allowed to do it.
Speaker 1: We're we're just stating that it was pity sex. We're
Speaker 1: labeling what it really was. If it was pity for
Speaker 1: herself because she needed to and release or do whatever.
Speaker 1: But you just said that she wouldn't have normally fucked
Speaker 1: that guy if she passed from the elevator, if COVID
Speaker 1: wasn't happening, because she was on the move, she didn't
Speaker 1: give a she was somebody else.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm misunderstood what pity fuck is because to me,
Speaker 2: pityfuck is like.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't do it unless it was a certain circumstance.
Speaker 2: But it was for her. I feel like a pity
Speaker 2: fuck be like, let me just fuck this guy, like,
Speaker 2: let me let me give him some to feel better
Speaker 2: about himself. Like to me, that's how I felt. Pity
Speaker 2: I was. So you're saying pitying herself, but.
Speaker 4: Pity in the world. She's she's a pretty girl.
Speaker 2: I think he and granted I don't know this gentleman,
Speaker 2: or have ever seen she's no God, no god, no.
Speaker 4: You hope not, oh god.
Speaker 2: And when and when the pandemic started to subside, she
Speaker 2: brought another guy back. No, no, that's my friend. I've
Speaker 2: never told she's a very pretty girl. So I think
Speaker 2: he obviously.
Speaker 4: He would have fucked listened whenever guy's voices go up
Speaker 4: like that octave.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no no, that's are you coppy?
Speaker 4: That's all he's just no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I've never said.
Speaker 4: You're my guy, regardless if you slept with this girl
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 2: I don't care, you know, I wouldn't have to lie
Speaker 2: the true oh ships like this is somebody upstairs. The
Speaker 2: only time, the only time I lie on my dick
Speaker 2: is when I did beat and I'm saying I didn't,
Speaker 2: but this is not the case here. I really didn't.
Speaker 4: That's my friend got you, Okay, okay, But she.
Speaker 2: Did run into Once the pandemic U subsided, she went
Speaker 2: back out to go fuck the people she actually wanted
Speaker 2: to fuck and bring them back. And he lived in
Speaker 2: the hallway. So now you gotta deal with that ship
Speaker 2: where you eat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, so, lex is, why weren't you having sex during.
Speaker 5: COVID Because I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 4: So it was COVID.
Speaker 2: COVID did it for you.
Speaker 3: All this other ship going on out here. COVID was like, no, listen,
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that, but it was like people being
Speaker 1: reckless on their own time and being like afraid of
Speaker 1: not knowing what it was and being of his own
Speaker 1: things too. So it's just like, no, I'm good, and
Speaker 1: I like again, I don't just like I'm not like
Speaker 1: a in this stage in my life. I'm not like
Speaker 1: a man where I'm like, oh, I just need a
Speaker 1: nut like I could. I can use what I call
Speaker 1: it bob, which is my hitachi, and I will just sleep.
Speaker 5: Great at night.
Speaker 1: But I do, you know, need intimacy and to be
Speaker 1: fucked obviously, but at that time that was not that
Speaker 1: I didn't just so what is.
Speaker 4: What is the date in life? Like for a porn star?
Speaker 5: It's hard out here.
Speaker 2: For a pimp, really imagine.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, guys, they're intimidated verry m hm.
Speaker 2: I can see that, intimidated by what things though outside
Speaker 2: of obviously being great at your craft and them thinking that,
Speaker 2: are they also intimidated by having to deal with you
Speaker 2: and your job and liking you.
Speaker 1: I can't really speak for them because I don't really.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is okay, there isn't a lot of zems.
Speaker 1: But for me, how I feel is my opinion. It's
Speaker 1: more like a lot of it stems from me. First
Speaker 1: of being like I have a hang up of being like,
Speaker 1: do you want to date or fuck Alexis Texas or
Speaker 1: are you trying to date me? Because I's two different people.
Speaker 1: So for me, there's already a high wall up that
Speaker 1: I sometimes maybe just go with either intuition or lack
Speaker 1: thereof and this don't just don't fuck with it, like,
Speaker 1: because I feel like if you're on a fan base first,
Speaker 1: I just like, I just feel like it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: And that's not always a case sometimes, so I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be more open minded. That's just maybe a conversation
Speaker 1: and how people want to talk to me. But I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it's the alfrom this how you know,
Speaker 1: how I am I've been in the sex industry. I
Speaker 1: feel like some people, as much as they think it's
Speaker 1: cool because of who I am, they have a stigma
Speaker 1: because they don't think that they could ever obtain to
Speaker 1: these scenes that I've.
Speaker 5: Done or this, that or the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean I think that's individual choice too.
Speaker 1: Of men I've picked in the past that weren't told
Speaker 1: me some of the best place So I'm working on
Speaker 1: that myself as well, But on all of it too.
Speaker 1: It's like I realized that even though I do want
Speaker 1: a partner, at the end of the day, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of things that the pandemic has
Speaker 1: shown me that I needed to work on myself to
Speaker 1: be ready for a relationship and all those things that
Speaker 1: had entailed because I was on the road for so
Speaker 1: long and I was you know, I would be married,
Speaker 1: I was divorced, and there was a lot of things
Speaker 1: I didn't really deal with because I was just on
Speaker 1: the road and I didn't really choose.
Speaker 5: To deal with it.
Speaker 1: So I feel like the pandemic kind of brought those
Speaker 1: things to the surface, and I'm finally dealing with what
Speaker 1: the needs and wants and all those great things that
Speaker 1: come with a relationship.
Speaker 2: Is So, did you feel like you it would have
Speaker 2: been better to date somebody within that industry or that world,
Speaker 2: Like I won't even say with porn, but just with
Speaker 2: anything in general. I feel like even music industry, street
Speaker 2: media shit, it tends to be easier to date people
Speaker 2: that understand your life. Okay, I do, Yeah, that is
Speaker 2: that typically like what happens.
Speaker 5: I mean, unfortunately for myself, I did I went that route.
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't know I can't say typically
Speaker 5: there is. I mean, there's definitely a.
Speaker 1: Lot of like porn stars probably to ten to twenty
Speaker 1: only twenty percent.
Speaker 5: Maybe that is like people who.
Speaker 1: Are married that are actually performers in the industry. One
Speaker 1: may have been and then they like got the other
Speaker 1: one in nowadays because content is very different from like
Speaker 1: OnlyFans and all these different like sites that you can
Speaker 1: do at home kind of thing, So it's very like
Speaker 1: different that sense.
Speaker 5: But I don't think there's that many.
Speaker 1: But I definitely did choose that route, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it too, was at that time in my life,
Speaker 1: and not that I didn't love and care for this
Speaker 1: person at the time, but it was because a lot
Speaker 1: of in the back of my mind, if I'm honest now,
Speaker 1: it's because I didn't think anybody else would accept the
Speaker 1: career choices that I had made at that time, and
Speaker 1: because he had been in the business and the and
Speaker 1: we were in love and all these things, it seemed
Speaker 1: like the right thing to do at the time, But
Speaker 1: it definitely was not.
Speaker 2: Do you think that was the biggest and that was
Speaker 2: the biggest commonality y'all had, was that, And that's probably
Speaker 2: why it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: No, I think there was more commonality, for sure. I
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of more interpersonal demons from
Speaker 1: himself personally and just you know, being young and accepting
Speaker 1: things that you shouldn't in relationships and not really knowing
Speaker 1: what all of that meant at the time, and not
Speaker 1: knowing that that's not okay, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but finding a voice with all of
Speaker 1: that too, and then you know, in breaking out of
Speaker 1: that and kind of coming on the other side and
Speaker 1: still being successful and doing and taking that and not
Speaker 1: being a negative thing or a victim role like I
Speaker 1: never wanted to play those parts because I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: only a survivor and getting you know, in a better part.
Speaker 2: I'll asking again, I don't know the history of your marriage,
Speaker 2: So if I'm overstepping, please.
Speaker 5: I like over my interview, but i'll.
Speaker 4: Conversation.
Speaker 2: What do you think in your marriage? What was the
Speaker 2: number one thing you would take accountability for it?
Speaker 5: Ending accountability? That's a good question. Yeah, so we want
Speaker 5: to go vulnerable, Okay, So I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe I feel like at the end,
Speaker 1: I just kind of because I knew what it was
Speaker 1: and what it was surfacing to become I kind of
Speaker 1: checked out myself too, and I just then began to
Speaker 1: just work and I worked and I worked, and I
Speaker 1: worked and I worked and I worked because that's what
Speaker 1: I knew. It was good and that's what made me happy,
Speaker 1: and my marriage wasn't making me happy. So I went
Speaker 1: on the road. And that also created more problems that
Speaker 1: probably could have been fixed if it would have been
Speaker 1: talked up before. But yeah, I just couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean a lot of it too, is,
Speaker 1: you know, And no one's to say to blame of anybody,
Speaker 1: and there's blame on both sides, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just unfortunate it didn't work out, and
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I feel I wish him
Speaker 1: well from Afar, but yeah, to each ound, no, I
Speaker 1: really do, though, But for me, is I really do.
Speaker 1: And I say that with a kind heart. And I
Speaker 1: went through a lot of really ups and downs of
Speaker 1: me like hating him, me resenting him, me like even
Speaker 1: saying something like I won't repeat it because it's not
Speaker 1: any that needs to be a public knowledge, but ways
Speaker 1: that I felt that I didn't feel good about feeling
Speaker 1: about that person because at one time. I did love
Speaker 1: him and he did have a big part in my life,
Speaker 1: and so he played a lot of good things. But
Speaker 1: you know, everything comes to an end, and unfortunately that
Speaker 1: had to end and it wasn't serving for me anymore
Speaker 1: as a person, as for work and you know, personally.
Speaker 5: So I had to let it go.
Speaker 1: And so for me, I really wish him well from afar,
Speaker 1: but I don't need any contact. I don't need any
Speaker 1: Hello's text, nothing like that for me. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: completely it's good.
Speaker 5: Now he can't. I can't say that for him, but
Speaker 5: for me, that's.
Speaker 4: What I have to do to protect you know, he's
Speaker 4: trying to double back well.
Speaker 1: For sure, and he has for years and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to do what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, whatever you are, I ain't mad at you make
Speaker 4: I would be doing the same.
Speaker 5: Thing, yes too, Shae. But you know, I do definitely
Speaker 5: wish him well.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's We've said everything we've had to say,
Speaker 1: and you know, I learned from it. I definitely learned
Speaker 1: now from what I don't want in a relationship and
Speaker 1: what I won't put up with and my worth, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's a big part of like relationships itself. Is
Speaker 1: just knowing that you're worthy of having someone do better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure doing better. I have another question, but let's
Speaker 1: go with yours first.
Speaker 5: Now you go, let's go.
Speaker 2: I've always wondered because I worked in the music industry
Speaker 2: before the podcast stuff, and obviously music was bootlegged for
Speaker 2: so long, and it was always this thing like, what
Speaker 2: was it not Nirvana? Who was the band that went
Speaker 2: crazy on Napster and sued them?
Speaker 4: Not important years ago, I can't even remember.
Speaker 2: They seemed I feel like music seemed to figure out
Speaker 2: how to stop the bootlegging thing in the downloading, with
Speaker 2: streaming and with iTunes and shit like that. Porn. I've
Speaker 2: always tried to figure out it being the I think,
Speaker 2: what number one entertainment when it comes to bringing dollars
Speaker 2: in industry in the world, it's still the most bootlegged.
Speaker 2: Is that like a big issue with y'all? Or is
Speaker 2: everyone just making so much money that they don't care
Speaker 2: because it's still bootlegged to this day the way music
Speaker 2: is not. And it was such a big thing with music.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really hard because yeah, so they are
Speaker 1: very similar, and it's these things that you have to do, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's piracy lawyers. There's all any things like
Speaker 1: that and to do, and there's really like now it's
Speaker 1: just like people are just find craftier ways to do it.
Speaker 5: They'll have IP addresses.
Speaker 1: From overseas and things that you can't really touch these
Speaker 1: things whatever, so like for myself and it sucks, but
Speaker 1: it's like I.
Speaker 5: Just didn't have time to deal with that.
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of those things happen and
Speaker 1: there are you know, bigger basses that to do that
Speaker 1: take those things away. But I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's definitely I think people are making just so much
Speaker 1: money that it doesn't really matter. At one point, I
Speaker 1: feel like people were trying to grasp on like scraps
Speaker 1: of things. But when all these other apps came around
Speaker 1: and kind of changed the narrative of the financial game
Speaker 1: of who was making the most money instead of the
Speaker 1: people who are actually like the companies, it's actually the performers.
Speaker 1: Now I feel like people. I feel like it's not
Speaker 1: as big anymore as a topic that.
Speaker 5: It used to be.
Speaker 2: Is there a porn star union.
Speaker 5: I believe so, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: I've always been interested in because it is entertainment and
Speaker 2: they reflect each other so much. That I've thought like, wow,
Speaker 2: why don't the bigger porn stars just start their own
Speaker 2: website and higher their own production crew and say this
Speaker 2: is gonna be our thing.
Speaker 3: What else what OnlyFans kind of does? Yeah, because they
Speaker 3: distribution to set up her company.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like how now.
Speaker 1: The new wave of stuff is is because it's now
Speaker 1: like they're so like just even how we were talking
Speaker 1: about like the mixtapes and all those stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But everybody can do it.
Speaker 1: Everyone can be like a creator and do maybe a
Speaker 1: not a porn star, but a porn performer per se,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because people can make their
Speaker 1: own only fans their porn, have accounts, all these everything
Speaker 1: that you could do.
Speaker 5: It's like everybody could.
Speaker 1: Be their own individual type of business that they don't
Speaker 1: need these big time people now if you had it
Speaker 1: like myself, I'm fortunate like I had a name prior
Speaker 1: to but some of these people that are like smaller
Speaker 1: people don't have as much reach.
Speaker 5: But that's why.
Speaker 1: You know, people do promos and they do you know,
Speaker 1: other kind of cross promotion thing that I feel like
Speaker 1: that kind of gets them out there.
Speaker 5: But I feel like I don't know with the nail on.
Speaker 1: The slip side too, if I think about it, Like
Speaker 1: with camgirls, which is a who other different kind of
Speaker 1: market as well, there's people that who don't have as
Speaker 1: big as names that do way better than girls that
Speaker 1: have big names. So sometimes it's good not to have
Speaker 1: a you know, a name as well too, because some people,
Speaker 1: because there's so much adult content out there, some people
Speaker 1: just want to see something. It doesn't care about Alexis
Speaker 1: Texas or Jada Stevens or any of these people, which
Speaker 1: they have the people who are connoisseurs of us, and
Speaker 1: that's what, you know, we appreciate that, But in the masses,
Speaker 1: some of the people just want to beat off and
Speaker 1: talk to somebody. I'm not available, Jada is busy, We're
Speaker 1: you know, doing you're doing other stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm on a podcast, you know.
Speaker 1: So they have to go to those other girls and
Speaker 1: it's they're not We're not any better.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So no, y'all are better?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean for me, it's like they're just but
Speaker 1: they're giving a service to you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like they're more on demand than what I
Speaker 1: would be available. I'm not talking to them every fucking day,
Speaker 1: like as far as like on a camp set like setting,
Speaker 1: like I don't have time, I'll do camp shows and
Speaker 1: schedule them out.
Speaker 3: And that they can't always get to the head the
Speaker 3: top like they got to talk to.
Speaker 4: I was trying to get you to say, it's levels.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, it's level.
Speaker 2: I've also thought again, and it's crazy that when it
Speaker 2: comes to porn and only fans, the thoughts I have
Speaker 2: that are so outside of sexual stuff. When only fans
Speaker 2: popped and I saw it all the porn stars obviously
Speaker 2: going there and clearly making a shit ton of money,
Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder when a porn hub or
Speaker 2: whatever big outlet is going to put in their contract
Speaker 2: if you want to work with us, you can't do
Speaker 2: paywall stuff on your own.
Speaker 5: But when did you feel that you felt like you felt?
Speaker 1: You felt that timing is because I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of people's time frame is really off because people
Speaker 1: think that that happened during just a pandemic and we
Speaker 1: were making money on only fans.
Speaker 2: Oh oh no, no, no, no, I know.
Speaker 4: That I know that they blew up.
Speaker 2: I'm og only fans and give them money for it,
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, but.
Speaker 1: It means people don't understand that we've already put in
Speaker 1: the work. Like that's when people are like they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: piece out or like, well, fuck you too. There'll be
Speaker 1: somebody else that will come around. And you don't want
Speaker 1: to say fuck you too that somebody's been making good money,
Speaker 1: but it's business as well. Something else is going to
Speaker 1: come and replace it and may better and bigger. You know,
Speaker 1: there's always something that's going to come out next with
Speaker 1: people who are smart enough to have those business ideas,
Speaker 1: even that yourself even coming up with even numbers like
Speaker 1: that to think about it. People don't think about But
Speaker 1: the next person will, and the next thing is going
Speaker 1: to be faster, it's going to be like more innovative
Speaker 1: shit to do.
Speaker 2: How did you feel about OnlyFans? What did they say
Speaker 2: for a week that they were gonna stop.
Speaker 4: With with a dope content?
Speaker 5: For me, honestly, I wasn't really impressed. It was shocking.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I was like, oh, like whatever,
Speaker 1: I was shocking. But they're, like I said, there's so
Speaker 1: many other platforms that are in place already that Only
Speaker 1: Fans was just the biggest one, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So there was traffic and other things. And I have
Speaker 1: a fan base, so anywhere I take my fans that
Speaker 1: have been loyal to me from the beginning, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be able to make money if it's my own
Speaker 1: personal site, if it's my own taking it to a
Speaker 1: fan soda type thing or porn hub and putting everything
Speaker 1: on there like they want to see my content, because I.
Speaker 5: Don't shoot for anybody.
Speaker 1: I haven't shot any scenes in over five years, and
Speaker 1: the only place you can see anything is on my site.