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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. I don't know what's going on with
my voice.
Speaker 3: It's whatever is in the air this time of year.
Pull everyone.
Speaker 1: Maybe I smoked and I said I didn't.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: You know smoke you're allergic to tobacco?
Speaker 1: Yes, I am. You are correct?
Speaker 3: Right? How do you remember when I first met you?
I offered you a cigar? Like, No, I can't. The
cigars would get me so stuffed up. Sometimes I may
have been known at once in a while drinking Tobama
cigarette off somebody. Okay, yeah, I don't. I've never smoked
a cigarette in my life.
Speaker 1: God bless you, God bless ever touch the smoke. You
know you're a disciplined guy. I I have just lived
my life a little bit more on. I don't know.
I think the edge somewhat, somewhat of the edge somewhat.
Speaker 3: Tyler, huh, didn't even out of the edge.
Speaker 1: But let me start here today because there's a lot
of things in.
Speaker 3: The thing's wrong. When the rano moved.
Speaker 1: My head's all over. My head's all over the place.
I had to lay down the lock this morning.
Speaker 3: Oh did you yes?
Speaker 1: So last night my son uh was out of buddies
and then I get the call. Can I spend the night?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 1: And I said, need to talk to his mom. So
I called the mom. Mom doesn't answer. I don't know.
She's stucking creditor card people.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She doesn't answer. She didn't recognize the number. I get it,
I get it. I'm joking. I am joking, but you
know what I mean, right, So I get her and
she goes, no, that's fine, And she said my son
has to go do yard work at nine, but Jamison
is welcome to just sleep. And I'm like, well, that
seems weird, but okay. So I get up and I'm
doing my thing this morning and I'm checking my phone.
I don't see anything from him. Don't see anything. So
on the way here, I call him. Let me go, buddy.
The Fairport Police are having a chicken barbecue fundraiser today.
I'd like to come get you. I'm going to do
a podcast right now. Oh come on, dad, come on.
I was gonna go to this guy's house in his
dad's house in Greece and hang out for a while
and then we'll be back, so I said, said yeah,
but I had other plans with you today. We were
gonna I said, we were gonna hit the chicken barbecue thing.
Speaker 3: I don't even like chicken barbecue.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, So I thought, let me. But I'm
on a baseline, a baseline of how how serious are
you about keeping your privileges right? I'm looking for that.
So here's what I did. I said, that's fine, how
are you getting there? Tells me how are you getting back?
My name comes up and I go, oh, no, no,
Oh no, no, I said, here's the deal. You will
be in our home by eight pm. If you have
to uber, you let me know. I'll order you an Uber.
You're paying me back? Can I pay out of the
next paycheck? Oh? Whatever? But you have to be home
by all right? All right? What's the matter? Right? Nothing?
What's going on? Well, I was gonna ask for nine.
I'll cut you a deal. Eight thirty. You gotta be
in our home by eight thirty. Well, if I'm a
few minutes ago, nope, eight thirty. If you're not there
by eight thirty, we're done. What does that mean? Not
hanging out with friends ever again?
Speaker 3: And I go for a while.
Speaker 1: For a while. We'll see, we'll see this. This is my
litmus test today. We'll see what happens, all right. You know,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if
I have a if I'm good at the litmus.
Speaker 3: Test or not. Littmus tests for you, the litmus Well,
it's also a limpid test for me because when I
hold up the consequences of fucking it doesn't matter anyway,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because that's sort of the weak parenting. And I feel
like sometimes I that's what I do because it's the
it's the path of least resistance and instead of like
holding out. And I was really upset with him the
other day because I took him to Saint John Fisher.
He was excited to go. We wanted to get homework done.
We had had a pretty tough meeting at his school
where he was very mad at me in this meeting
with other teachers and stuff. And I might have been
a little bit of a dick, but you know, I'm
hearing about, oh, he's behind in this and he's got
this grade in this grade. And I go, Okay, here's
what we're gonna do. It'll be printed out. Somebody here
signs it that they that these are the assignments. I
will sign it when he completes them. And he was
like and then he I mean, he was mad, mad,
mad mad. But then I said, I have like they'll
sit and talk and they want you to feel comfortable
and trust them, and I think that's wonderful. I had
a heart out at nine. So at eight fifty nine,
I stood up in this meeting. Is everybody's around this
conference table, and I walked over to him and I said,
stand up and he goes not much stand up and
I go okay, and I just gave him a big
hug and I whispered to his zear, I love you.
I gotta go, and I just walked out. Wow. Is
that a dick move? Is that power? I don't even
know I had. I literally had somewhere I needed to
be at nine to fifteen.
Speaker 3: You tell them you love them, You hugged up, you
hugged them, You had a commitment and you went for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's an issue.
Speaker 1: No, I got.
Speaker 3: I mean because you can't. You have to. You have
to see. The one thing about my parents is that
there was no like hypocrisy in the house, not in
there would be in yours. It's like, here's the standards
that we live by. Yes, this is what we're doing. Yes,
whether you like it or not. Right, And there was
no like wiggle room.
Speaker 1: No me too. But what happens is when you have
a broken family, I call it right, you know, wor spituation. Yes,
it becomes tougher and he has no buffer, meaning there's
no other child at home. The other guys are eight
to ten years older than he is. They're already done. Yeah, right,
so it doesn't affect them. And so he's here trying
to navigate a path, making decisions, and sometimes I try
to meet him halfway and just try to he's through,
because I think there's a lot of the word is trauma,
you know, and sometimes there's maybe it's an overused word,
but it is. And I can see some of the
results of that for for real. So we'll see, we'll
see how the consequence you know, if I, if I
actually if I will follow through it you have to you.
But then you know, here's the problem though, here's the
god damn problem.
Speaker 3: It's not punishing him if he can't go out. I
got to stay home too.
Speaker 1: To make sure he doesn't go out, because this guy
will just go he's done around.
Speaker 3: That's parenting.
Speaker 1: I thank you, Dan, and I'm old now, and I've
I've already done it.
Speaker 3: I've already done it because I don't have kids.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you can say that.
Speaker 3: I I just you know I I I don't. I
don't like my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sister
now would call me about each other's parenting, yeah, and
then o each other's parent by each other's ye. So
I would I would offer my said, well you don't know,
you don't have kids.
Speaker 1: Well, but see that said, that's not fair because you
can't call somebody, lay out a scenario and not expect
them to have an opinion. You're laying out your opinion.
That's not fair. And to tell you, well, you don't
have kids, it seems like a bit of a cop out.
You're right, you don't, you don't. There are some I'll
call it the nuances of life right with a child.
You know, certain things that go on, like you're not
tripping over dirty socks or underwear, or someone's taking a
forty five minute shower and using all the hot water,
you know what I mean, those types of things. Yeah,
maybe you are. Maybe Beth does that, maybe she leaves
her socks. I don't think so, though, I have a
funny feeling that it's very organized. No she is, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't going to eat next Tuesday. She knows
who's playing in the Super Bowl. No, but yeah, it's uh.
But it's funny though, because I watched all three of
my sibs, actually four, but my oldest sister has since passed,
and she she lived in Arizona for a for a
long time, so I didn't get to see them, but
we'd watch each I watch all of my siblings raise
their kids, and I got to say this, you know,
the one thing I can say about all of them
is that my father would be very proud of how
they do it. Yeah, because my father, I think flew
off the handle a few times. No, I think they're
way more calm in their.
Speaker 1: Paston than he was.
Speaker 3: And he even said that to me because I didn't
want to have to yell at you guys. I was
a steel worker. People died, Yeah, people died doing his job,
died died.
Speaker 1: No outlet. I should have got one the counseling himself
or work, But they didn't.
Speaker 3: Know what that was then. That wasn't a thing. It
was like if you went to a psychologist in the eighties,
that was like an admission that you were a mental patient.
Speaker 1: Ellie sends me a picture's in New.
Speaker 3: York nowadays, like Tony Soprano goes to a psychologist. Oh,
it's darvel to do that.
Speaker 1: I get you. I see exactly what you're saying. So
at least I'm just telling this story to give you
a similarity between your dad and my dad. Ellie sends
me a picture of the New York City Library. She
goes he in there studying because I got another midterm
coming up tuesday. I got all this stuff because she's
in New York City. And I said, yeah, I'm in
this science fiction section or whatever, you know, come over.
I'm just making some stupid joke. It was just text.
And she said, your father would probably well, your father
would be very proud of you. And I said, I
don't know. And the reason I don't know is he
said that counselors, social workers, mental health even threw in
speech pathologists, which my mother was fed off the pus
of society. He said it. And then there were certain
points in the family dynamic that people would end up
in counseling and they would bring in the family and.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't talk. He would say nothing because he felt
like he.
Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna say anything. Yeah, he wasn't going to be
have like my manipulation or whatever. Right, So when he's
so now fast forward, we're at the end of his
life or at the end of his life. And he
was a very philosophical guy, and I thought, I'll just
give you, like something that changed in his opinion. Right,
I my mother referred to me as her promiscuous one. Maybe,
but I had lived with people before I got married, right,
somewhat of a taboo certainly in their world. Right, And
that generation.
Speaker 3: HS cohabitates so well, hybridates, but not co habitates my sister.
Speaker 1: Then my sister does it, and well, okay, wait, my
father said, I've had a real thought about this. He goes,
if love is the greatest thing, and this is built
on love, then it's not bad, so enjoy. That was
his philosophical reasoning for the cohabitation that I think really
made him uncomfortable from his programming, meaning his when I
say programming, his environment, what he grew up in the
Catholic church, that sort of thing, that programming, Well, that
was taboo. Right. Now, you know, a son does it,
you're like, you grumble, maybe, but you don't worry about it.
Your daughter does it, I think it's probably a bigger deal.
And again, like you say, you can't speak to having kids,
I can't speak to having a daughter. But his thing was,
if it's based on love then and love is the
purest form of anything in this world, then there's no bad.
So you know, he kind of changed his philosophy on that,
and I think that might have changed his philosophy even
on like gay marriage and things.
Speaker 3: See, I would love to think see what my father
would think at twenty twenty five. A lot of people
like to put words in dead men's mouths. It's a
very very common thing. Yeah, your father would have dot
dot Your father would have Dad would have dot dot dot.
I'm like, we have no idea. Somebody brought up a
point about George Carlin and they said, would George Carlin?
You know, oh man, we've really missed George Carlin. We
could use George Carlin nowadays. And somebody brought up the
point George Carlin may have just become like one of
those people you despise now. He may have evolved his thinking.
We'll never know he died in no. Wait, so you
can't say, yeah, do we miss that George Carlin? Yeah,
because he would because he would be the guy like
rattling the cages, going what are we doing nowadays? Or
he could end up like Lewis Black, just going along
with the ride like a lot of people, like the
only guy I've seen in comedy like like not doing that.
I shouldn't say, the only guy, but the one guy
who championed thoughts on the left, let's say, and has
like now since he has not moved, he says, but
everybody else has is Bill Maher. We've got we've gotten
a little carried away.
Speaker 1: I think that I would call some comics today modern
day philosophers. Yes, yeah, And I think that Dave Chappelle,
whether you agree or not, and he has had transgender
things that he said, and a I think that there
is he's bringing you around in a line of thinking
that it's both funny maybe to some not, but majority
find it funny. Yeah, and it's socratic, yes right, in
a way he brings you back. So I think that,
And I think that with Mark I haven't watched. I
do have HBO, but I have not watched.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's clear what side he's on. But at
the same time, he's also now like, well, wait a second,
I didn't move the line.
Speaker 1: Moved, line moved. I mean Kennedy Democrats are Republicans, yes, right,
So I mean that that's he.
Speaker 3: Won't admit that, but he's a Kennedy Democrat. Yeah, I
mean it's it changes. But but to like to your
father's point, yes, your father's point, you know, like I
was it like that Wonder Year scene where the older daughter,
the hippie daughter, she moves in with the guy just daddy.
Times have changed, things change. I haven't changed. And you
know what I think with my father, it would have
been like, you're a man, you're a woman, Yeah, you
do whatever you want. I raised you right, Yes, it's
not my problem anymore. No.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing too, is to your point, putting
words in a dead man's mouth, I think that's a
very wise thing to say, because none of us are
probably the same person we were two years ago, shouldn't
be five years ago. I think we evolved, gosh, and
I hope I have, and I pray to God that
I had. And what I mean by that is like
I think that our thinking changes. Maybe we've changed an
opinion on something, maybe we've seen something happen. Maybe we've just,
as an example, had a real strong opinion on gay marriage,
and someone in our family came out as gay. And
you see this loving thing. I'll tell you what like
using the word I used to run around saying the slurs, right,
we would throw them out as nothing. And I used
to even do it in Spanish. And I remember being
seventeen years old hammered on cognac cone chocolate, which has
to be the sweetest. You probably throw up. It's like
you who with kognac and which is already sweet. And
I just got fucking hammered on that stuff. And then
I would start yelling out the slur for gay people
in Spanish. Fast forward. I had a girlfriend in college
and beneath her in her she lived off Oxford, was
in one of the streets. Yeah, there was a gay
There were two gay guys that lived there, and one
of them I believe hadades. And I remember and I
remember being drunk. Oh god, I actually could get emotional
about this. I uh, I got I remember getting drunk
with her roommate.
Speaker 3: I remember the guy's name, Casey.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Casey got kicked out of Fisher,
I don't remember, because he was never like on campus
or whatever. But and he and I get hammered at
N Rights, which is a bar on Monroe Avenue, a
serious bar, and we come stumpumbling back and I'm yelling.
The two of us are yelling, and we're slipping on
ice because it's winter time and I'm yelling yeah, of course,
all kinds of slurs and like just loud and drunk,
and I mean.
Speaker 3: Fucking or everybody could hear you.
Speaker 1: I moved down there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if somebody talks at two o'clock in the morning,
you can hear it because it just like dead signce
dead silent.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So, and the trees kind of like reverberate you got it,
They're like a canopy that it's the acoustics are right there.
That's a good point. So I'm yelling all this stuff.
And then the next day or a couple days later,
I see this one guy carrying out his partner with aids,
sitting him in the car, and I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 3: And it was so sweet.
Speaker 1: And I was a twenty two year old guy at
the time, and I'm like, oh my god, that's like
so sweet and loving. And he put the seatbelt on
him and he made sure he was comfortable, and the
guy just like like he was in so much discomfort.
And I think I ran into the guy years later,
and I went up and apologized. Thanks to the courage
of the bottle, right, I drink, I'll just start telling everybody, hey, so,
but I think I had a couple drinks and I
went up to him and I said, hey, I want
to apologize to you because I did something that has
never sat well with me after that, and I will
never do that again. I would never do that ever
again after that. So all the jokes and things, you know,
I get it and certainly, but I could never I'm
so mortified that I did that to two people who,
like my dad said, if they're if it's built on
love and love is the purest form of everything and
there's no bad, then how can this be bad if
it's two people who love each other. And I'm like,
you know, and he said that years later. Now, the
guy had a lot of opinions. I was starting to
tell you. The pus is when he at the very
end they had we were moving him to a higher
level of care. So they had a social worker come in,
and my sister and brother are like, oh fuck, We're
all three of us like, this isn't going to go
good because he, you know, right, he doesn't want to
talk to counselors. He doesn't want to talk to anybody.
So he we're sitting there and he's looking down and
the woman's asking him questions and what broke it and
what made me see is when she said something to
him and he goes, yeah, that makes sense, and he
kind of just he went with it and he goes, now,
I'm starting to see what you're saying, and it makes
it makes sense to me. And he wasn't as resistant
to this person.
Speaker 3: But you know, they come in.
Speaker 1: High Bill, high Bill, I'm a social worker. I'm here, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And it wasn't the social worker, but there was a
bunch of people.
Speaker 3: That day, and one of who have to care about
people like nurses, social they mean well, they mean, well,
they're they're.
Speaker 1: They're trying to like it's like it feels even for us,
like you're talking down to him a little bit. And
so Bill, and we're gonna take your blood pressure. Hi Bill,
I'm I'm a social worker.
Speaker 3: My name is so and so and so.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, and then he uh. But
it was during one of those meetings. I'm retelling the story,
but they said to him, when you were married, you know,
just I think it was more for cognitive ability. When
you were married, what did you call your wife? How
did you refer you when we were fighting or otherwise,
like there.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: Bill, all right, that had I had no it was
the turn with Jamison. Yeah, no, no, we're fine. I
just I had no direction there. I apologize.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean I think some of our best
discussions are when we have no direction. Yes, I've always said,
this is the this is what the old show was
off air. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the
stuff we talked about off their.
Speaker 1: We'll take a moment and when we come back, maybe
we talk about something you and I saw on the
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Speaker 3: Something's wrong with talk about a band ahead of a resurgence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Desmond Child? Help?
Speaker 3: Who's that? Whose child?
Speaker 1: I don't know who that Desmond Child?
Speaker 3: I should know. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Rock guy Desmond Child broke a lot of bon Jovi's
biggest hits. They didn't write on their something well they did,
but he he came in and and he was a
punched up guy. Basically I should look up exactly who,
uh Desmond Child is and I hope I have the
right name, but I'm pretty sure Desmond Child was like
a like a punch up writer, almost American songwriter, record producer. Yeah. Uh,
let's see overboard seventy one years old. He lives in Gainesville, Florida.
He's live anywhere he wons. I mean, he's got to
be one rich motherfucker living on a prayer. Uh. He
had his own song, Desmond Child in Rogue in nineteen
seventy nine. Our Love is Insane Love on the rooftop. Yeah,
Viva live in La Vida Loca. Oh no Viva la diva. Sorry,
oh god? Yeah, he wrote it just a ship to kids.
Speaker 3: Good good for HMPT on.
Speaker 1: This, but I think he came in and punched up
stuff for Aerosmith's. Well they sobered up, Yeah, that's true.
Then they did the run DMC video. Yeah, and that
really kind of put them back. But you're you're right.
I think Stephen. I think Joe Perry. No one could
get a hold of Stephen, and he's like, so he
started the Joe Perry project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then uh, Janie's Got a Gun. I forgot
what movie that was part of. Was that part of
a soundtrack.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I just remember Bamby's Got a Gun that was played
at the beginning of Untie season and.
Speaker 3: The Hunters on the Run.
Speaker 1: You never heard of he never did. I gotta see
record find it was that a h I think it
was a Bob Wolf. That was just when I worked
in Poughkeepsie. Uh.
Speaker 3: That was Janie's Got a Gun. That was their big
comeback single.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the funniest thing was when they came out
with the orchestral version on MTV of dream On, and
then I'm like, wow, that was really cool. And then
I hear the original. I go, dad, who's sang the
original version of dream On? He goes, Danny Boy, I
don't know if to ask one of your friends. I
asked him to go, oh, that was Erol Smith too.
I go, wait a minute, yeah, I go the same
guy who sang dream On is Steven Tywer who sings
the dream I go, oh, yeah, his voice was wrecked
at that point by Heroin. I'm like, holy cow, I
had no idea it was the same dude, because his
voice had just changed, and yet he could still sing.
He just couldn't sing the way he sang in the seventies.
He could say it about a lot of guys, but
I mean his voice changed quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. All right, I can't find this, but
there was a It was Bambi's got a gun like
Janie's got a gun. Yeah, that's what it was. Anyway,
it doesn't matter. A lot of things happening in the world.
Danny and I came into the studio today here in
Fairport and we did pass the no Kings protest or demonstration. Yes, yeah,
I would call it a protest. I think you're right,
that's way better description. Yeapah, way better description. Any thoughts
on that, I have a lot of thoughts.
Speaker 3: And yet at the end of the day, okay, whatever, Yeah,
I'm not a protest guy. I'm not a demonstration guy.
I'm like, if you want to really like affect change
that actually do something, don't just talk about it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And I drove through and I see, I'm gonna be honest,
I didn't see one attractive person I drove through. I
saw a lot of old people, which means, what do
old people have a lot of time to do nothing?
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of old people.
Speaker 3: I saw a ton of old people and women yeah, yeah,
I saw I didn't see any young men. I didn't
see any I saw a couple of young guys.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, you know, yeah, I think that
there's I don't have a problem with it at all.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. You could do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I think it's people who it was peaceful too, there
was no there were no riots.
Speaker 3: None of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it's people who love this country, oh yeah,
and are concerned.
Speaker 3: We all want the same things. We just disagree on
how to get there.
Speaker 1: And I think that the the thing that I think
people are starting to see a little bit, this will
get weird, is that we're seeing someone who in interviews
many many years ago, has admitted their thin skinned being
President Trump, and it does seem like he's going after
political opponents i'll call them, or people with others that
kind of using the power of the office to do that,
which isn't what shouldn't be done right, shouldn't be done no.
Speaker 3: I think, And I think it's because in a lot
of ways, it's like they went after him too Russia,
which wasn't true. Politician James stuff wasn't wasn't We found
out it wasn't true.
Speaker 1: And so I just wish that someone would, I mean.
Speaker 3: Somebody be the adult in the room. Stop because then
the next time the next guy is going to do
the same thing. It's just going to go back.
Speaker 1: I'll always say things. I'll always say, you know, outside
of here, if you work for a media corporation, there
really is no free speech. They can endorse or not
endorse whatever you want. Whatever they want right, or they
can you could pull great ratings. But if advertisers often
going to go did you hear what he said, I'm
not advertising on that show, You'll lose your job. It's
not free speech. It's money, and everything comes down to money.
The ABC GM Kimmel thing, when you looked at it,
it was the FCC spotlighting one guy over a comment. Eh,
that was sort of he didn't need to weigh in innocuous.
And then you find out that Disney ESPN is trying
to buy NFL network and it needs FCC approval. Look
the optics, well just say that. I don't know if
this is all true or not. I'm not in those meetings,
but I do find all this stuff so unsettling that
I don't watch the news and I feel a little
out of touch.
Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of the people on
either side get their news from their side. Like if
you even to go to a certain browser says news
from the left, news from the right, which would you like,
oh really, oh yeah, what browser is that? Brave? Do
you go to the brain? I use a brave browser,
and the brave browser news from the left, news from
the right. I'm like, no, just give me the freaking doll.
But you can though. That's the point interesting, right, I
think people like I think a lot of people watch
CNN and they think that's the way the world works.
But I think that people watch Fox News and they
think that's the way the world works. I think one
side typically protest or demonstrates more than the other because
I think the others like going up college professors, you know,
like they're they're like, howcome college is are so liberal? Okay,
this is just an observation. I think it's because educators
typically are in the business of education, whereas people who
want to make money are in business and don't have
time for that. Right, they're not teaching college. They're out
earning money. They're working, Okay, they're not writing books jaging
themselves off in their own opinion. Okay, they just don't.
I'm serious, they just don't have the time.
Speaker 1: Well okay, but sometimes it could be said the people
that are more intellect wall see things on a bigger
scale and and have a softer side for humanity. Right,
so we want to help help filman. I believe that
there is no human being that wants to see other
human beings suffer. I just don't. But I think I
really do. I think if we see someone suffering, we
would try to help them out.
Speaker 3: Those of us with a rational mind, okay, but sound mind.
Speaker 1: But I think there are some people who But I
think sometimes when we involve the government to do it,
it gets fucked up. Oh dude. And that's why when
you said, when you see when you see Bezo's ex
wife giving away millions and millions of dollars to things,
I don't think that that's done Willy Nilly. I think
she sees organizations that she knows that she can affect
change in a monumental way and help mankind if that's wonderful, right,
And there's no government that has to get in. I mean,
it's just because it just becomes more bureaucracy and Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Have you been to the DMV.
Speaker 1: They're not happy being there. You know what I'm saying,
Like any government thing, it's like right, all right, because
and it becomes a slog I don't know about cleaning
things up. I have said this before. I will say
two things about President Trump. Maybe the most effective at
using the presidency I have ever seen in the history
of this country. Not that I'm a scholar in the
history of this country. I am not. But he it's
a bully pulpit. And when Stan Main sat here, who
is on the left, and said, the guy is effective.
He got things done. Maybe you don't agree, but he
got things done. The border crossings are down. Are we
going about it the right way? Big debate there, right,
h some of it's pretty harsh, sounds scary. I don't
weigh in on these things a lot of times because
I go, I'm a privileged white guy, and I know
that that sounds that rubs people the wrong way. But
they're not coming after her, do you know what I'm saying.
They're not coming after me. I don't have to worry
about that. I'm not here trying to make am.
Speaker 3: You and I live at the top of the food train, right,
and like, if you write down our list of worries,
and you write down, like if you took like if
you took like several groups that wrote down their list
of worries and eliminated the trivial crap. Okay, yeah, okay,
the celebratory garbage that you know, then it is much
different living in certain areas. It is much different living
in certain skin colors, yeah, than others.
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's okay to recognize that. So
I don't usually weigh in on that, but just as
a purpose, like and stand pointed this out Obama and
it might have been a second administration one hundred days
in they come to him and go, hey, Poles are saying,
people are sick of hearing you. They're sick of hearing
from Obama. So he tones down his rhetoric. You think
that there's a second that President Trump's going to tone
down on that anything. No, And that's the effectiveness that
I'm talking about. You know, where we try to dance
to the people a little bit, He's just going, fuck you,
I'm gonna do this. I'm not saying he's right, I'm
just saying that's what I'm observing. I'm observing someone who
goes I have an agenda and I don't give a shit,
and I'm going to get it done. And if I
don't think there's anybody here, look, illegal immigration is a
huge toll on the country, anybody in this country, and
we could just look at it here. And this is
why there are so many fundraisers for things like Galasano
Children's Hospital or hospitals in general, because when anybody shows
up to the er, they have to be seen whether
they can pay or not. Well, hospitals don't run an
air no, okay. And I'm not even saying, like, you know,
sure could a doctor. And I don't know the medical
ethics board, but in some ethics borts do recommend that
you do pro bono work. I don't know if that's
in the doctors or not. I'm sure there's a few
that probably would maybe even donate their time at a clinic,
but the machines, do you understand, I'm saying, whatever you need,
the oxygen, all that stuff cost, so it becomes a
toll on the country. Do I like seeing somebody who's
trying to make themselves better? Yeah? Does this country give
you opportunities from where they come from that they may
not have. Absolutely, do we need to change the immigration
laws in some way that is more effective? And again
I don't know any about this. I would say yes,
but illegal immigration does hurt things, It takes jobs away,
it does stuff, And I whether or not, I think
people on both sides will say this, and I know
they have. I think Hillary Clinton talked about this so
but he shut it down, he got it done. Is
he doing it the right way? That's a scary thing.
That is almost like a king coming in and go.
You don't blong it. Go. But that's where we are.
And I'll say this. I think there's an underbelly of
this country that has been exposed. Oh yeah, meaning racist hate,
ugliness that was sort of tamped down. Right, I can't
say anything anymore. Archie Bunker's back, you know what I mean?
And I don't know that that's bad. And here's why
we can't pretend that it doesn't exist and move forward.
You've got to address the problem. And I think at
least if it's if we're seeing more of it, we
know that it's there. So how do we do this?
It is a country that is considered the best in
the world by many, right, me included. But you've got
a lot of different opinions and a lot of different
things going on, and how do you all come together.
There are many people who say America's too big. I mean,
you know, you know, it's just it's it's too big,
it's too hard to get How do you get everybody right? Well,
we've seem to have done it for two hundred and
fifty years, so let's hope that it continues that way.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of At the end of the day,
it's going to come down to one thing. What's on
the table, m what's on the table? Yeah, my eating
yeah right, my head. Yes, that's what it's all going
to ultimately come down to.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing things like, look, I know people who
have means, right, they went to Europe, bought a bunch
of stuff, had it shipped over, and we're shocked when
they went to pick it up that they had to
pay five hundred dollars to get the stuff that they
already paid for because it's the tariffs, right, So and
it just shocked. It was a point, well, the tariffs
and things could make things. We can say, well, it's
making things more expensive, it could hurt the economy or
I don't I'm not smart enough for this at all,
or couldn't make us buy from American borders, and sometimes
that is more expensive, and that's why we're not buying it.
But now if we made this more expensive, and you know,
if something's a dollar fifty American made and it's fifty
cents from overseas, and now it's two dollars from overseas
and still a dollar fifty, where are you going that?
And maybe that's the point with this. I don't know. Yeah,
I'm dumbing things down because I'm dumb, but I don't
because I don't know enough. But I see this stuff
and I go, I just think it's people who love
the country and oh yeah there were a.
Speaker 3: Ways, but American flags and stuff. I mean, like, look,
I think everybody wants with a rational mind, wants America
to be great. Yes, it wants what they used to
have or want something. I think it becomes a question
of when we start to get carried away with certain
people not pulling their weight, or certain groups doing things
the kids that shouldn't happen. And I think that, and
then there's also these other things that like you know.
Speaker 1: I get that. I know where you're going with the
pulling your weight thing. Okay, but kids, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, Like, I'm sorry but this.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not looking to Let's keep it calm, keep
it ready, give it down, because you're better heard that way.
Speaker 3: I don't want that. Children really know what they want,
and there has been and it's been proven now through
polls and everything else, that transgenderism what's a fad? And
more and more kids are seeing the dangers of it
and they're like, no, I don't want anything to do
with us. And I think that like parents like say,
oh you think you're a girl. Okay, well let's go
get you tested for that. And I mean like like
kids don't know. Like you have a fifteen year old
at home, right, you have to direct him in every direction?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well all of a sudden, like Jamison comes home
one dances I want to be a woman. Yeah, you'd
be like, wait, why not try it up.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I'm not going to change your parts,
but try it up. There are people who are like,
you know, well, I don't know Dan, because I don't
see that stuff. So I can't even you don't have kids. No, no, no,
not you.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you know people.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I don't know the numbers that
you speak of. I don't know. I can't say to
you those are factual or I don't know. As far
as transgender being, I think that there is something that
is in some human beings and they're not comfortable in
their own skin. And that's a terrible thing that's got
to feel awful. And but but I believe this has
gone on since the beginning of time when man first
appeared on the planet. And I only say that because
there were little communities that would pop up of people
who were like minded, right, certain parts of like New
York City and things. I mean on the wild Side
song from the sixties, right, I think we're seventieses, right,
it's about yeah, but about transcender, about cross dressing. Lola
from the Kinks in the sixties. It's another song.
Speaker 3: Point, Okay, you're an adult, fine, exactly exactly, I understand.
Speaker 1: Yes. All I'm saying is I think people have had
these internal conflicts. I remember finding out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called it's called growing up.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, no, I mean in terms
of where they just aren't comfortable in their skin as
an adult. We're sticking with adults for the moment. And
I remember hearing that a girl that I went to
church with grandfather got caught walking around in women's clothes.
And I remember my father telling me that they thought
somebody he worked with was a cross dresser because they
saw a shoe, a woman's shoe catalog in his on
his desk made and the sizes in it were like
sixteen fifteen. Like those are big feet, right, My boys
have feet that big. But I'm eleven or twelve. They're
you know, like these are so weird, right. So I'm
just saying, like, I think there's always been that, and
I think some of the people who have had that
see the struggle they went through and are saying, no,
I was like this at ten. I knew this at ten.
I'm with you. I don't want to see someone make
a decision when your frontal cortex isn't fully developed until
you're twenty five for men, and I think it's like
twenty two twenty one for women. I think it's a
tough I think it's a tough road. I also think
that for parents you're trying to. You love your kids
so much, you just want them happy, and you think
if this is going to make them happy. But I
don't know the numbers. I don't see it. I do
see adult transgender people. I think that they're I think
that I'll be honest with you, I think some of
the splintering would we would say what side of the
aisle would you think most people who support or are
transcender and love trans it would be probably the left,
although you might be surprised, there's always Caitlin Jenner right,
it's on the other side.
Speaker 3: But I think that that there's so much friction over there.
Speaker 1: There's just too many pieces for the Democrats to almost
get it together, you know what I mean? Like everybody's
going and my personal belief in life and this is weird,
and I this is gonna sound very strange, So just
just bear with me. You believe in God? Do I
believe in a source of energy that is God? We
call it God. That's fine.
Speaker 3: I believe Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I believe that. And I'll give you examples that everything
in this world is a vibration and an energy, and
when you push against something, you get more of it
because like the law of gravity, there are lots there
are physical laws, and the scientists are starting to prove
this out and that you can take action. But if
you're not fully aligned in some spiritual way, it doesn't work.
And my example of this is the war on drugs
has ever worked.
Speaker 3: No, in fact, they even canceled there right because we're
pushing against, pushing against.
Speaker 1: So what happens? I really think And I know that
you people can go you're fucking insane, this is the
dumbest or wooh is shit. But I think if you
look at life and you even think for yourself things
that you've pushed so hard against, why Because it was
so hard the other way and once you sort of
let go and let God or let go and let
the universe, it just went easier. And I think, like
Nancy Reagan's warned, they're changing now. You know what they
teach in schools.
Speaker 3: Now, if a kid comes in and.
Speaker 1: Goes, yeah, I've been doing drugs, they're not saying don't
ever do drugs again. And the reason they're doing that
it didn't work because the kid went, well, fuck this,
I'm just gonna go do it. They say, how can
I help you wean off this? What are like? They
actually it almost feels like it's more beneficial. And I see,
like when we push against the no Kings, my concern
is that the other side is coming back just as hard.
Oh they are, you know what I mean? Wind up
here and we wind up like and it's that. And
I just used examples of like the war on drugs,
the war on poverty. Have we ever gotten rid of poverty? No? No,
will we ever get rid of poverty? Probably not?
Speaker 3: Jesus said that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's always because we're pushing, but
work on a bop, you know, force this thing to be.
And I that's my concern with it, I believe. I
don't know if you think I'm nuts, No.
Speaker 3: That's valid. I also think that they're I think the
reason why certain sides push so hard is because, you know,
coming from you know, my perspective as a Christian, like
you know that the saying is that you know, I
don't even I don't know what the saying is. But
the point is that when you just let let stuff go,
let stuff go, and let stuff go, all of a sudden,
you end up here.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, well, because you're right, and I see
what you're saying. I totally see what you're saying. But
I think, yes, I think that we need to be
disciplined in our own lives. You feel better when you're together, Yes,
you don't feel good when you're not supposed to be alone.
Somebody did a study of all the studies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is hysterical. Someone did a study of all
the studies and they found that the greatest detriment to health,
to society, to mental health, to poverty, loneliness. Yeah, we
are meant to be together.
Speaker 1: Social animals. Yeah, we're social animals, and we need.
Speaker 3: Men and women live longer when they're married, when they're married.
But there was somebody else, or I would even.
Speaker 1: Say, I'll give an example of my mom and dad.
My dad died seventy nine years old. My mother is
maybe seventy nine now, and she just bought a new car.
She's on her way up to see to my brothers
this weekend to watch the kids play sports, and she
wants to get up before the weather kind of really
turned right. Yeah, beautiful, she's got right, she's got her whole.
She goes and does adult ed classes at the.
Speaker 3: Local college.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but the Bard Bard College, so yeah, barred
March Shed. She produces classes there and she like anything
from but it's adults, right, so it's a community of support.
She has her coffee groups, she goes to what did
my dad had fucking nothing? Nothing? Why? Because he just
was not that guy? And I remember going to visit
him when he lived in Jersey, just he and I.
But this would have been two three das Danny. I
don't know what he did all day. It would get
it was hot, it was summertime, and he would do
so I was reading, he's reading, he would fall asleep.
I'd fall asleep, or you want to go to the dinner.
The guy had nothing nothing, And he had said it
at some point maybe I should go back and substitute
in school, just to have a purpose, to have a thing.
And that's so right, what you're saying. And there it
is in my life. My mother is thriving and will
probably live maybe two or nineties. Her mother went to
ninety six and my dad did not. And my dad,
very very social like even said to me because he
lived in a it used to be military housing and
then they split them in half and so it's kind
of a they owned it, but it was a smaller
like apartment almost right. You had a nice kitchen, living room,
two bedrooms, bathroom, and they had community events. So he said,
I think I'm going to go to the community event
blah blah blah. And then he comes home and I
had some women talking to me and I'll tell you
what not for me, Like he was proud that he
sort of got hit on, but at the same time
he's like, I've been around the block. And then they
did a game which I believe we did in radio
way way way back when I was on CMF in
the afternoon, I would broadcast live from jack Asters. Somebody
would get a plunger, put the stick out between their legs,
and someone would stand at the other side of the
room with a roll of toilet paper and you had
to get the plunder stick through the roll of toilet
paper that was in there in between their legs. They
did this at my dad. He goes, I'm never going again.
That was the most disgusting, vile thing you can think.
I want to see these people. They can't even get
it up that blah blah blah, like.
Speaker 4: You went on.
Speaker 1: He did twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm wan a fucking p ss like okay, but that.
Speaker 1: Was your social go deuced, go go. He was lonely,
and he'd started talking about how lonely he was. And
I can't I will never ever in my life be
able to thank my brother and sister in law enough
for the immense effort and attention they paid him to
move him up there, to try to get him out
and be social. And my brother will say, anytime he
came to a game or anything, he's like all my
friends would gather around. Yeah. The guy was fucking funny
and brilliant and interesting and softened a little bit as
he got older, more accepting, and he just wished that
you know, I did. I did take him to sign
up for the UH the community center that I think
they had an old age. I think he had to
be over a certain age to join, and I got
I took him Jamison and I took him and registered him.
But I think by then his health was failing so
much that he couldn't really drive, but they but he was.
He was very open now because I think he saw
the benefits to socialization and anything that he would I mean,
he was.
Speaker 3: A sarcastic, prick.
Speaker 1: He would make fun of everything, which I loved, but
he was super lonely. And so what you're saying is
exactly right.
Speaker 3: I remember before Beth, when I was single, divorced, AND's
like looking forward to the weekend, looking forward the weekend,
maybe five o'clock on Friday, like, oh, it's just me,
well by myself. Yeah, I don't have that, you know,
And it is one of my bandmates are no, they're
they're they're married. And my brother, oh know, he moved away.
My friends they're all married and they've moved away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just me. I have had those moments too.
And I at one time was going to a bar
and then I would see people who were like, you know,
normal when they would come in, hey.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't want this to be my
social circle all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but then I became and I was four years
friends with the guy who owns the Irish pub in
town and through his we and so now I have
a group of guys about my age. Some are divorced,
some are remarried, some you know, but like even last
night I got on the phone with one guy's wife
was like come on, let him stay out to ten thirty. So,
but yeah, and that is sort of my soul. I
love hanging out with those guys. One of this guy
is you know, the former God. He made me laugh
so fucking hard yesterday we're sitting there. He was a writer.
I think I've talked about this guy for Family Guy
and stuff. He was a writer for the show Titus
on Fox. And he is one of the quickest, funniest
people I've ever met, next to Tommy let I'll always
say that about Tommy. Tommy was the best in that
role I've ever heard on radio period anywhere in the country.
Howard starned anything. I think Tomulay was absolutely and it
was a joy to work with that guy. This guy
John is so funny. So they're making fun of my wallet,
like I got the big, thick dad wallet whatever like this, right,
And I don't really Usually I don't take my wallet.
I don't even know what the fuck's in here. I
just take out like the card I'm gonna use, maybe
my license and a student ID because I'm a fisher, right,
And my friend Tony pulls out this little tiny wallet
and he goes, look, I keep my card she goes,
you got to fold up your cash you put it
in there, and John looks at it and goes, oh,
you got that off team. Will wait, I'm gonna get
the joke wrong. He goes, oh, you ordered a duffel
bag and that's what showed up from Timu and whatever
it was, the timing was so good. I'm fucking the
joke up terribly. But like, that's the people I love.
I'm sorry, I'm spinning. That's the people I love hanging
out with. And every Friday I sometimes will leave where
I'm working and go right there just for an hour,
just an hour. I don't need to get all hammered
up in anything. I do have a drinking problem, admit that.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 1: And here we go again, on and on and on
in our show. Yep, sorry, Danny, that's all right. We're
gonna do one more segment. I want to talk about
something that was said by a baseball manager and see
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I get a good feeling, you, Yeah, I get
a feeling that I never never, never, never happy.
Speaker 3: Full, No, no, God, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It is? Well, look at you, nice, Paul.
Speaker 4: I believe I really do.
Speaker 1: Something's got a hold on. Come on, baby, what a gift?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 1: What I feel?
Speaker 4: So strange? Everything a.
Speaker 1: Little sports stuff because the bills are off this week.
So that's a little bit of.
Speaker 3: A pressure relief, a kiff from God.
Speaker 1: But something's got a hold on me.
Speaker 3: My love for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: But I did see, Uh, it'll be the Dodgers, and
I don't know.
Speaker 3: You will be either the Mariners or the Js.
Speaker 1: The Jays, right, but I don't know where we are
in that series three two Seattle, Okay, So talking about
tonto'll probably a West Coast series and what it sounds like,
which is cool. No, great, I'm fine with that. I
here's why I would sort of root for Toronto. And
I know people get a little Ernie Clement is from Pittsford, yep.
And he plays for the Blue Jays, Yes he does,
and so be kind of cool.
Speaker 3: The Yankee Killer.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, did not know?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, did not He beat the crap out of
the Anks in that series.
Speaker 1: Ernie Clement, Yeah, oh I didn't know this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. He says he tries to convert to Yankee
fans to become Blue Jay fans when he comes back
to Rochester.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's funny. Well, the Dodgers manager Dave
Roberts said this last night. Here it is, let me
see what again, oration.
Speaker 3: And uh, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Before this season started, they said the Dodgers are ruining baseball.
Speaker 3: Let's get four more wins and really ruined baseball. Let's go.
Speaker 1: And they're saying like it's a stacked team, it's what
the Yankees used to do. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You bought the talent. Do you agree, baseball fan? Dam
Do I agree that he ruined that the Dodgers are
ruining baseball?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, me neither. I don't either.
Speaker 3: I think it's you have an enemy. Now you have
a villain. The Yankees were a villain. Like you cannot
I mean, if you're a Yankee fan, you cannot complain
about payroll. Okay, all right, exactly you cannot complain about
payroll if you're a Yankee fan. If you're a Mets fan,
you can't complain. That's those are the rules. And by
the way, there will no, there will not be a
salary cap of baseball. Now there is the luxury tax,
which is expensive. Okay, but if they want to pay it,
God bless them. Good for them, sure, good for them.
You know what the Yankees need to do and the
Mets need to do is here's what the Dodgers did.
They don't just sign guys. They also have a pretty
good development, have a great minor league system. The Yankees
development sucks. Does it sucks? I can give you four
guys they've developed in the past twenty five years. Four
And by developed, here's what I mean. I mean they
got a second contract with the Yankees. I mean that
they got a second contract with either the Yankees or
the Yankees went after this dude, and they decided not
to re sign. Only four, only four of those dudes.
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, No, no, no, no, he was nineties.
Speaker 3: Oh come talking about guys since to the Tournament Center.
Speaker 1: Since two thousand.
Speaker 3: It is the turn of the said.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge is the obvious, the
obvious one, right, and not that great in the minors.
I don't think he did not he.
Speaker 3: He's he's worked, Yes, he's okay, he needed a full
year at each minor league level before he got to
the pros. Is there a picture that I'm not thinking
of Luis Severino. Yes, and there's a reason you're not
thinking of him because yeah, but yeah, one of the
four yeah, okay, and then boy, I don't know if
Robinson Cano, oh okay, yeah, we end up signing with
the Mariners and the Yankees they kind of knew he
was on steroids and he had exposed. And Brett Gardner, Now, Bill,
I know you only know who judges on that list,
but yeah, but what does that tell you?
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, Gardner was solid. He wasn't great,
but he was so was solid.
Speaker 3: Okay. Yes, the Yankees don't develop talent. They just signed
on the people's and the guys that they did develop
or try to develop end up, you know, their arms
flame out or they end up getting hurt or they're
not that good, and they overvalue their prospects. They always
have and so and the Mets do the same thing.
They don't develop the talent, and so they have to
make up for it by spending money. And the Yanks
have gone out and gotten all these old vets from
these one year deals, and they're gonna run it back
again next year. And I mean sometimes when I watch
the Bills and the Yanks and their front offices, I
feel like I'm watching the same team, one superstar carrying
the load and everybody else along for the ride. Hey,
we're just gonna run it back. We're not gonna change
a thing. We're just gonna keep running it back. Now,
I'll say this, we may have it. I missed it
because you know, being married, you have to pick your spots.
And I watched that Friday night. Ladies and gentlemen, you
may have seen if you watched it, the greatest single
performance of a baseball player in the history of the game.
And we're going back to the eighteen hundreds, We're going
back to Babe Ruth, We're going back to Ty Cobb.
What did show, hey, Hotel hit three home runs, pitch
six innings of one hit ball and threw ten strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love Aaron Judge. Air judges at pitching right right,
let alone, throwing ten strikeouts and throwing six innings of
one hit freaking balls. That's unheard of. Otani maybe the
greatest baseball player we've seen since Babe Ruth and I
love Aaron Judge. Love Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge like
the Yankee Mount Rushmore. I hate using that topic, but
it's always discussed in sports circles because sports guys have
to kill time and take calls. The Mount Rushmore topic
has always has been who's your Mount Rushmore? And the
Mount Rushmore with the Yankees has always been Ruth, Gerig, Demaggio,
and Mantle. He may actually edge out Judge, may actually
edge out Demaggio. And that's something that Bara couldn't do.
That's something Jeter couldn't do. Rivera, Mariano Rivera was a closer,
so he's a pitcher, so he doesn't count. And yet
Otani is better than Judge because he could pitch, and
he could pitch.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know, it's a weird thing because that
was so I don't it was the way baseball. I mean, babe,
Ruth pitched.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until he realized that, you know, like he was
better off just playing the outfield hit because if you
you could play every day, if he's if he was
playing the outfit, which Otani's a DH slash pitcher, you know,
when he's not pitching, he's he's dhing. And by the way,
the Baseball change the rules so that the Nationalague could
have a DH two, which, by the way, I think
it makes the game more exciting and better. Like nobody
wants to see the picture hit, yeah, but this picture,
except this picture he's about to be able to hit
the ball too. But it's like it's like Little League, right, Like, Okay,
we gotta have Tommy pitching tonight because Tommy's awesome. I
hope Tommy hits three home runs and pitches well tonight,
we're gonna win. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah,
it's like the big kid in Little league, all right,
we gotta rely on big Tommy. Oh yeah, oh Tommy's amazing.
But yeah, I agree with Roberts. I agree with Roberts. Yeah,
go ahead ruin baseball. It's not ruining baseball. You're actually
there are more people now watching Baseball's on the coming back.
Baseball's climbing now. It'll never reach the NFL, and it'll
never reach what it was back in the seventies, eight
and eighties and nineties before steroids, I don't think, but people.
More people are watching baseball again, More people are going
to games again. Attendance is up, ratings are up. The
thing about baseball, though, is that you can't find the
games anywhere.
Speaker 1: No, you can't, because they're on Like apples, got a.
Speaker 3: Game on Sundays, you gotta go get a Roku stick.
Speaker 1: Right, And I remember some old guys would come into
thirsties got about a year ago or so, and they
would say they came there to watch the game because
they couldn't find it on TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have to you have to, like okay,
so here's the funniest thing. You have to Every team's
got its own network. Okay, and the Yankee started that
with Yes. Then you got Apple, then you got Roku,
then you got Prime Games. There's games on Prime, TBS
has games, ESPN no long will no longer be carrying games,
but they're gonna work out some type of deal. And
then on top of that, if you want the baseball package,
it's ninety nine dollars a year, which actually isn't a
bad price when you get all the games except one thing.
You don't get any Yankee games. You don't get a
Mets games, you don't get.
Speaker 1: A out thinkwork and I don't think no.
Speaker 3: Because they're in New York state, they're local. You don't
get local television. So because we're not in New York City,
we get we get. You don't get Jay's games. I
don't think. I don't think you get Cleveland games. Jesus. Yeah,
so there's blackouts too. That sucks, right, I want to
The other thing too, is that if you if you'd
rather watch sorry if you if you're like, if you
get tired of watching your guys and you want to
watch another network, like if TBS or ESPN has the
game instead, if it's local, if you have a local connection, like, yes,
you can't watch the game out of ESPN. Oh my, yeah, yeah.
I mean it's like there's a lot of blackouts in
red tape and baseballble rights.
Speaker 1: That's maddening. That's really maddening, and it's unfortunate because I
think it does hurt the game. Yeah, I think it
hurts the game. Here's something that politics of a different side.
I saw this posted on my friend Chris Bianchi's Facebook
page earlier in the week, and it was about a
high school football coach who was averaging eleven wins a season,
resigning over punishing some players for unsportsmanlike conduct, and then
the parents threatening him.
Speaker 3: Okay and.
Speaker 1: Listen here, we'll just see.
Speaker 6: Over the last two and a half seasons, the Williams
Valley football team has had a twenty eight and winning
record and is brought back two District eleven two A titles.
Steven SIDESI the man coaching the team during those victories,
resigned on Monday, in the middle of the season.
Speaker 5: I decided Monday morning that if if my business is
going to get threatened, if my family's going to get threatened,
it's small school football. I don't I don't need to
have that in my life.
Speaker 1: Sodesse says.
Speaker 6: Parents of players on the team have made threats to
him and his father, Mike Sidessei, who was the defensive
coordinator on the team.
Speaker 5: We had tires flat the other night.
Speaker 1: Oh my that truck. We had a billboard paint.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wait, they have a billboard painted, that, says Mike SIDESSI
is the something.
Speaker 5: Painted with some derogatory words on it, pretty much the
same ones I used there, about abuse and being abusive
and stuff like.
Speaker 6: That, says. The reason this is happening is because over
the last few weeks, players have been increasingly disrespectful.
Speaker 5: Be rating coaches, cursing at coaches.
Speaker 6: When coaches took disciplinary action like forcing kids to run,
things didn't get better.
Speaker 5: Kids didn't take to that so well and it started
to really backfire.
Speaker 6: Eventually, tensions got so bad, Sidesse says, the school suspended
his father from a future game just hours before the
team was playing school wol Haven last month, and because
players were still disuspectful after the fact, coaches decided to
bend some of the players for their next game this Friday.
Speaker 5: When parents obviously found out we were gonna be sitting
some kids, we got a lot of backlash, a lot
of threats. We were threatening that if their kid don't
start in the game that they would need to have
extra security at the game.
Speaker 6: After threats escalated over the weekend, both Steven and his
father decided to resign, and Williams Valley's athletic director is
now stepping in as head coach. News watched sixteen reach
out to the Williams Valley superintendent and has not received
a response. Audie Iire News watched sixteen Schoogle County.
Speaker 1: God damn, Now, this sounds like a very rural part
of Pennsylvania. And I don't know if I'll say this way,
I don't know what was the movie All the Right
Moves that Tom Cruise was in Pennsylvania high school football, right,
so that football was the way out of working in
the steel mill or the coal mine or whatever it was.
I think that was the thing and I'm just wondering,
is this a poorer area and it's football seen as Hey,
if my kid doesn't play there, chances doesn't get the scholarship.
Speaker 3: And so but that is insane. That's insane.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I thought, I go. I don't
know much about this story, but it kept rumbling in
my head. So that's why when you were talking baseball.
I'm sorry, I was half listening as I was trying
to find this story because it's I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: That's bath.
Speaker 1: It's bath, right, Beth does the same thing.
Speaker 3: But the uh, what kind of milk?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm shocked. I'm really shocked because if
if I thought a coach was abusive, maybe you have
a conversation. But if I think the coaches or or overstepping,
I can't say here's abusive, but overstepping, I have a conversation, right,
But to not this makes no sense.
Speaker 3: This is what parents run everything. Well say, it's like
this is a bit of a.
Speaker 1: Political thing, right. They forced the guy out or forced
the guy's hand, and.
Speaker 3: Noone's gonna get a good football coach out of this, and.
Speaker 1: They're telling him he's a pussy.
Speaker 3: I'm sure and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But and look, he's a high school football coach. He
has a business during the day, his own business. You're threatening.
I remember when I was in high school. I went
to school with the superintendent son, and he was not
the most athletic guy. But you would see all of
a sudden, Dad would hit the sideline. He'd be talking
to the coach and the next thing, you know, Josh
would be in. And you know, a lot of the
guys would get really pissed off about it, but no
one had the balls to really say anything. And you know,
I was a subject. He would sub in and he
wouldn't be he'd be in for a little while, but
not like you know, but it was weird every time
Dad showed up on the sideline and he'd be over
talking and doing his thing, and then the next thing,
you know, all right, and I'd be like, come on,
come on, come on. He was not that athletic at
whatever you're trying to do. Good bye your kid, or
give your kid an opportunity to show that maybe he's
better than you know, you'd think he's better than whatever.
But the guy was made of stone. Shit just bounced.
The balls would just bounce off this guy. He had
no control whatsoever, couldn't catch couldn't.
Speaker 3: The adults always ruined everything unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I mean this sounds like parents living vicariously through the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I just I'm surprised in twenty twenty five.
I'm not you're not.
Speaker 1: No, it's a big country. Yeah, I guess, but you're
slashing the guy's tires. Fucking collars are expensive, man, it's
like eight hundred dollars minimum.
Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson once said, he goes, how many of you
in this room whatever become a Nazi? And nobody raised
their hands. Sure, he goes, yeah, you're the perfect candidate.
And here's why, and he went through all the examples
of just how one person can turn two people, could
turn four people to eight people. All of a sudden,
mob rule grows and people start thinking in groups instead
of thinking for themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, because you want to belong to a group. And look,
Hitler came in my mind. You can take gangs in
certain parts of cities or of the country that and
you can take the Nazis, and you can almost do
a side by side thing. You had a country that
was devastated during World War One. You had a generation
of men who felt emasculated, right, that were angry, that
were you know, maybe absentee in some way. And you've
got young people looking to belong and looking for a
leader they're looking for and here comes this fiery guy
with great rhetoric that spoke right to them, and we're
gonna do this and we're going to rebuild it. And
you know, these these people are the problem and they're
getting in your way. I don't know that, but that mentality, right,
And it's the same thing. I mean if you talk
to young gang men, they're just looking to belong and
be led and be part of a group. And if
unfortunately we join that group. And so I don't think
Jordan Peterson is necessarily wrong. But you know, the Nazis
they made volks.
Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to compare like no, no, no, no, no. People.
That's just one example of like, like, okay, all takes
is like a couple of parents to get Hey, you know,
I see Gihnn's playing, man, what's going on? And he's
not out there? Know I say same thing about Joey.
He's not playing either. You know what we ought to do, right,
you know, you know, you know who else's kid's not playing.
You know, there's a story about when Wayne You ever
see the Wayne Gretzky.
Speaker 1: No, I did not.
Speaker 3: It was the first one, and it talked about how
how the parents like this is Kretzky. We're talking about
Gretzky like above them, beyond any other hockey player who's
ever played the game, although Bruins fans would argue it's
Bobby or whatever, and like parents would be sitting there
with stopwatches at practice telling the coach Kretzky was out
there this amount of time. How come my kids only
out here this amount of time? Right, it's Kratzkey Wade
freak Gig Gretzky, not Tyler Muir Wade Gretzky. I'm just
you know, shout out to our friend Kevin. And the
point is, though, is that, you know, like these parents felt, no, no, no,
if Gretzky could do, my kid would just do the
same thing.
Speaker 1: Look at that.
Speaker 3: You just have to give him more time. He could
be Wayne Gretzky too. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, look, parents just don't understand. But you don't have kids,
so you're not I'm not qualified. You're not qualified.
Speaker 3: I'm not qualified. By the way, congratulations to Kevin and
his Dodgers. Oh yeah, Kevin Dodgers. It's the more subtle
side of Kevin. We don't hear much about the Dodgers
from Kevin.
Speaker 1: Kevin is deep in hockey stuff with his son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Tyler's going pro.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: That was really good.
Speaker 1: He's very good.
Speaker 3: Sammy like, uh, gonna play hockey two still, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I possibly, but uh, I think
that Tyler has an opportunity maybe down the line to
play Division one. Yeah, and uh he is. He's a
hard worker and he's learning more and more as it
goes on, and of what it's going to really take.
Speaker 3: Kevin make him walk home last game. No, he did
threaten that that one time, and that that seems so crazy.
Speaker 1: Like Lake, yeah, all right, right, he was so fissed off.
I think he didn't take him.
Speaker 3: In his car. I think he had a couple of years. Yeah,
a couple of years.
Speaker 1: But I think Tyler's learning what it takes to play
at that elite level. He was on a Canadian team
and he's like, oh my god, it was so much faster.
But once he right you to your next level, Rise
to your next level. You know, let's not argue for
our limitations. Let's stretch ourselves, tretch ourselves, stretch ourselves and
make it all happen.
Speaker 3: Danny, it was a pleasure, that's always Bill. Yeah, I
love coming on here. I love one of your own.
It was an interesting one and it always is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I enjoyed it. For Dan Barrillo, for Beth Barillo.
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