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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. I don't know what's going on with

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my voice.

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Speaker 3: It's whatever is in the air this time of year.

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Pull everyone.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I smoked and I said I didn't.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: You know smoke you're allergic to tobacco?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am. You are correct?

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Speaker 3: Right? How do you remember when I first met you?

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I offered you a cigar? Like, No, I can't. The

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cigars would get me so stuffed up. Sometimes I may

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have been known at once in a while drinking Tobama

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cigarette off somebody. Okay, yeah, I don't. I've never smoked

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a cigarette in my life.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, God bless ever touch the smoke. You

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know you're a disciplined guy. I I have just lived

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my life a little bit more on. I don't know.

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I think the edge somewhat, somewhat of the edge somewhat.

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Speaker 3: Tyler, huh, didn't even out of the edge.

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Speaker 1: But let me start here today because there's a lot

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of things in.

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Speaker 3: The thing's wrong. When the rano moved.

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Speaker 1: My head's all over. My head's all over the place.

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I had to lay down the lock this morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh did you yes?

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Speaker 1: So last night my son uh was out of buddies

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and then I get the call. Can I spend the night?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 1: And I said, need to talk to his mom. So

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I called the mom. Mom doesn't answer. I don't know.

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She's stucking creditor card people.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't answer. She didn't recognize the number. I get it,

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I get it. I'm joking. I am joking, but you

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know what I mean, right, So I get her and

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she goes, no, that's fine, And she said my son

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has to go do yard work at nine, but Jamison

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is welcome to just sleep. And I'm like, well, that

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seems weird, but okay. So I get up and I'm

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doing my thing this morning and I'm checking my phone.

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I don't see anything from him. Don't see anything. So

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on the way here, I call him. Let me go, buddy.

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The Fairport Police are having a chicken barbecue fundraiser today.

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I'd like to come get you. I'm going to do

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a podcast right now. Oh come on, dad, come on.

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I was gonna go to this guy's house in his

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dad's house in Greece and hang out for a while

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and then we'll be back, so I said, said yeah,

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but I had other plans with you today. We were

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gonna I said, we were gonna hit the chicken barbecue thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't even like chicken barbecue.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, So I thought, let me. But I'm

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on a baseline, a baseline of how how serious are

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you about keeping your privileges right? I'm looking for that.

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So here's what I did. I said, that's fine, how

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are you getting there? Tells me how are you getting back?

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My name comes up and I go, oh, no, no,

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Oh no, no, I said, here's the deal. You will

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be in our home by eight pm. If you have

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to uber, you let me know. I'll order you an Uber.

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You're paying me back? Can I pay out of the

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next paycheck? Oh? Whatever? But you have to be home

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by all right? All right? What's the matter? Right? Nothing?

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What's going on? Well, I was gonna ask for nine.

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I'll cut you a deal. Eight thirty. You gotta be

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in our home by eight thirty. Well, if I'm a

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few minutes ago, nope, eight thirty. If you're not there

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by eight thirty, we're done. What does that mean? Not

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hanging out with friends ever again?

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Speaker 3: And I go for a while.

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Speaker 1: For a while. We'll see, we'll see this. This is my

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litmus test today. We'll see what happens, all right. You know,

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if

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I have a if I'm good at the litmus.

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Speaker 3: Test or not. Littmus tests for you, the litmus Well,

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it's also a limpid test for me because when I

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hold up the consequences of fucking it doesn't matter anyway,

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you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because that's sort of the weak parenting. And I feel

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like sometimes I that's what I do because it's the

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it's the path of least resistance and instead of like

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holding out. And I was really upset with him the

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other day because I took him to Saint John Fisher.

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He was excited to go. We wanted to get homework done.

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We had had a pretty tough meeting at his school

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where he was very mad at me in this meeting

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with other teachers and stuff. And I might have been

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a little bit of a dick, but you know, I'm

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hearing about, oh, he's behind in this and he's got

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this grade in this grade. And I go, Okay, here's

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what we're gonna do. It'll be printed out. Somebody here

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signs it that they that these are the assignments. I

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will sign it when he completes them. And he was

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like and then he I mean, he was mad, mad,

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mad mad. But then I said, I have like they'll

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sit and talk and they want you to feel comfortable

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and trust them, and I think that's wonderful. I had

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a heart out at nine. So at eight fifty nine,

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I stood up in this meeting. Is everybody's around this

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conference table, and I walked over to him and I said,

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stand up and he goes not much stand up and

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I go okay, and I just gave him a big

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hug and I whispered to his zear, I love you.

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I gotta go, and I just walked out. Wow. Is

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that a dick move? Is that power? I don't even

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know I had. I literally had somewhere I needed to

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be at nine to fifteen.

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Speaker 3: You tell them you love them, You hugged up, you

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hugged them, You had a commitment and you went for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's an issue.

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Speaker 1: No, I got.

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Speaker 3: I mean because you can't. You have to. You have

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to see. The one thing about my parents is that

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there was no like hypocrisy in the house, not in

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there would be in yours. It's like, here's the standards

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that we live by. Yes, this is what we're doing. Yes,

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whether you like it or not. Right, And there was

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no like wiggle room.

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Speaker 1: No me too. But what happens is when you have

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a broken family, I call it right, you know, wor spituation. Yes,

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it becomes tougher and he has no buffer, meaning there's

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no other child at home. The other guys are eight

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to ten years older than he is. They're already done. Yeah, right,

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so it doesn't affect them. And so he's here trying

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to navigate a path, making decisions, and sometimes I try

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to meet him halfway and just try to he's through,

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because I think there's a lot of the word is trauma,

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you know, and sometimes there's maybe it's an overused word,

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but it is. And I can see some of the

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results of that for for real. So we'll see, we'll

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see how the consequence you know, if I, if I

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actually if I will follow through it you have to you.

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But then you know, here's the problem though, here's the

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god damn problem.

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Speaker 3: It's not punishing him if he can't go out. I

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got to stay home too.

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Speaker 1: To make sure he doesn't go out, because this guy

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will just go he's done around.

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Speaker 3: That's parenting.

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Speaker 1: I thank you, Dan, and I'm old now, and I've

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I've already done it.

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Speaker 3: I've already done it because I don't have kids.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you can say that.

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Speaker 3: I I just you know I I I don't. I

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don't like my brothers and sisters. My brothers and sister

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now would call me about each other's parenting, yeah, and

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then o each other's parent by each other's ye. So

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I would I would offer my said, well you don't know,

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you don't have kids.

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Speaker 1: Well, but see that said, that's not fair because you

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can't call somebody, lay out a scenario and not expect

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them to have an opinion. You're laying out your opinion.

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That's not fair. And to tell you, well, you don't

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have kids, it seems like a bit of a cop out.

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You're right, you don't, you don't. There are some I'll

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call it the nuances of life right with a child.

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tripping over dirty socks or underwear, or someone's taking a

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forty five minute shower and using all the hot water,

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you know what I mean, those types of things. Yeah,

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maybe you are. Maybe Beth does that, maybe she leaves

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her socks. I don't think so, though, I have a

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funny feeling that it's very organized. No she is, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't going to eat next Tuesday. She knows

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who's playing in the Super Bowl. No, but yeah, it's uh.

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my sibs, actually four, but my oldest sister has since passed,

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and she she lived in Arizona for a for a

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long time, so I didn't get to see them, but

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we'd watch each I watch all of my siblings raise

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their kids, and I got to say this, you know,

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the one thing I can say about all of them

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is that my father would be very proud of how

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they do it. Yeah, because my father, I think flew

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off the handle a few times. No, I think they're

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way more calm in their.

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Speaker 1: Paston than he was.

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Speaker 3: And he even said that to me because I didn't

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want to have to yell at you guys. I was

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a steel worker. People died, Yeah, people died doing his job,

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died died.

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Speaker 1: No outlet. I should have got one the counseling himself

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or work, But they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know what that was then. That wasn't a thing. It

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was like if you went to a psychologist in the eighties,

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that was like an admission that you were a mental patient.

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Speaker 1: Ellie sends me a picture's in New.

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Speaker 3: York nowadays, like Tony Soprano goes to a psychologist. Oh,

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it's darvel to do that.

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Speaker 1: I get you. I see exactly what you're saying. So

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at least I'm just telling this story to give you

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a similarity between your dad and my dad. Ellie sends

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me a picture of the New York City Library. She

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goes he in there studying because I got another midterm

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coming up tuesday. I got all this stuff because she's

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in New York City. And I said, yeah, I'm in

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this science fiction section or whatever, you know, come over.

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I'm just making some stupid joke. It was just text.

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And she said, your father would probably well, your father

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would be very proud of you. And I said, I

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don't know. And the reason I don't know is he

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said that counselors, social workers, mental health even threw in

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speech pathologists, which my mother was fed off the pus

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of society. He said it. And then there were certain

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points in the family dynamic that people would end up

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in counseling and they would bring in the family and.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't talk. He would say nothing because he felt

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like he.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna say anything. Yeah, he wasn't going to be

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have like my manipulation or whatever. Right, So when he's

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so now fast forward, we're at the end of his

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life or at the end of his life. And he

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was a very philosophical guy, and I thought, I'll just

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give you, like something that changed in his opinion. Right,

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I my mother referred to me as her promiscuous one. Maybe,

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but I had lived with people before I got married, right,

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somewhat of a taboo certainly in their world. Right, And

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that generation.

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Speaker 3: HS cohabitates so well, hybridates, but not co habitates my sister.

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Speaker 1: Then my sister does it, and well, okay, wait, my

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father said, I've had a real thought about this. He goes,

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if love is the greatest thing, and this is built

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on love, then it's not bad, so enjoy. That was

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his philosophical reasoning for the cohabitation that I think really

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made him uncomfortable from his programming, meaning his when I

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say programming, his environment, what he grew up in the

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Catholic church, that sort of thing, that programming, Well, that

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was taboo. Right. Now, you know, a son does it,

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you're like, you grumble, maybe, but you don't worry about it.

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Your daughter does it, I think it's probably a bigger deal.

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And again, like you say, you can't speak to having kids,

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I can't speak to having a daughter. But his thing was,

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if it's based on love then and love is the

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purest form of anything in this world, then there's no bad.

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So you know, he kind of changed his philosophy on that,

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and I think that might have changed his philosophy even

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on like gay marriage and things.

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Speaker 3: See, I would love to think see what my father

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would think at twenty twenty five. A lot of people

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like to put words in dead men's mouths. It's a

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very very common thing. Yeah, your father would have dot

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dot Your father would have Dad would have dot dot dot.

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I'm like, we have no idea. Somebody brought up a

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point about George Carlin and they said, would George Carlin?

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You know, oh man, we've really missed George Carlin. We

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could use George Carlin nowadays. And somebody brought up the

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point George Carlin may have just become like one of

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those people you despise now. He may have evolved his thinking.

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We'll never know he died in no. Wait, so you

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can't say, yeah, do we miss that George Carlin? Yeah,

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because he would because he would be the guy like

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rattling the cages, going what are we doing nowadays? Or

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he could end up like Lewis Black, just going along

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with the ride like a lot of people, like the

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only guy I've seen in comedy like like not doing that.

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I shouldn't say, the only guy, but the one guy

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who championed thoughts on the left, let's say, and has

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like now since he has not moved, he says, but

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everybody else has is Bill Maher. We've got we've gotten

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a little carried away.

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Speaker 1: I think that I would call some comics today modern

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day philosophers. Yes, yeah, And I think that Dave Chappelle,

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whether you agree or not, and he has had transgender

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things that he said, and a I think that there

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is he's bringing you around in a line of thinking

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that it's both funny maybe to some not, but majority

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find it funny. Yeah, and it's socratic, yes right, in

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a way he brings you back. So I think that,

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And I think that with Mark I haven't watched. I

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do have HBO, but I have not watched.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's clear what side he's on. But at

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the same time, he's also now like, well, wait a second,

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I didn't move the line.

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Speaker 1: Moved, line moved. I mean Kennedy Democrats are Republicans, yes, right,

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So I mean that that's he.

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Speaker 3: Won't admit that, but he's a Kennedy Democrat. Yeah, I

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mean it's it changes. But but to like to your

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father's point, yes, your father's point, you know, like I

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was it like that Wonder Year scene where the older daughter,

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the hippie daughter, she moves in with the guy just daddy.

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Times have changed, things change. I haven't changed. And you

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know what I think with my father, it would have

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been like, you're a man, you're a woman, Yeah, you

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do whatever you want. I raised you right, Yes, it's

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not my problem anymore. No.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing too, is to your point, putting

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words in a dead man's mouth, I think that's a

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very wise thing to say, because none of us are

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probably the same person we were two years ago, shouldn't

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be five years ago. I think we evolved, gosh, and

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I hope I have, and I pray to God that

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I had. And what I mean by that is like

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I think that our thinking changes. Maybe we've changed an

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opinion on something, maybe we've seen something happen. Maybe we've just,

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as an example, had a real strong opinion on gay marriage,

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and someone in our family came out as gay. And

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you see this loving thing. I'll tell you what like

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using the word I used to run around saying the slurs, right,

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we would throw them out as nothing. And I used

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to even do it in Spanish. And I remember being

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seventeen years old hammered on cognac cone chocolate, which has

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to be the sweetest. You probably throw up. It's like

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you who with kognac and which is already sweet. And

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I just got fucking hammered on that stuff. And then

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I would start yelling out the slur for gay people

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in Spanish. Fast forward. I had a girlfriend in college

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and beneath her in her she lived off Oxford, was

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in one of the streets. Yeah, there was a gay

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There were two gay guys that lived there, and one

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of them I believe hadades. And I remember and I

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remember being drunk. Oh god, I actually could get emotional

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about this. I uh, I got I remember getting drunk

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with her roommate.

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Speaker 3: I remember the guy's name, Casey.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if Casey got kicked out of Fisher,

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I don't remember, because he was never like on campus

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or whatever. But and he and I get hammered at

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N Rights, which is a bar on Monroe Avenue, a

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serious bar, and we come stumpumbling back and I'm yelling.

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The two of us are yelling, and we're slipping on

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ice because it's winter time and I'm yelling yeah, of course,

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all kinds of slurs and like just loud and drunk,

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and I mean.

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Speaker 3: Fucking or everybody could hear you.

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Speaker 1: I moved down there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if somebody talks at two o'clock in the morning,

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you can hear it because it just like dead signce

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dead silent.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, and the trees kind of like reverberate you got it,

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They're like a canopy that it's the acoustics are right there.

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That's a good point. So I'm yelling all this stuff.

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And then the next day or a couple days later,

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I see this one guy carrying out his partner with aids,

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sitting him in the car, and I was like, oh

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my god.

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Speaker 3: And it was so sweet.

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Speaker 1: And I was a twenty two year old guy at

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the time, and I'm like, oh my god, that's like

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so sweet and loving. And he put the seatbelt on

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him and he made sure he was comfortable, and the

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guy just like like he was in so much discomfort.

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And I think I ran into the guy years later,

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and I went up and apologized. Thanks to the courage

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of the bottle, right, I drink, I'll just start telling everybody, hey, so,

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but I think I had a couple drinks and I

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went up to him and I said, hey, I want

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to apologize to you because I did something that has

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never sat well with me after that, and I will

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never do that again. I would never do that ever

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again after that. So all the jokes and things, you know,

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I get it and certainly, but I could never I'm

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so mortified that I did that to two people who,

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like my dad said, if they're if it's built on

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love and love is the purest form of everything and

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there's no bad, then how can this be bad if

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it's two people who love each other. And I'm like,

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you know, and he said that years later. Now, the

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guy had a lot of opinions. I was starting to

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tell you. The pus is when he at the very

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end they had we were moving him to a higher

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level of care. So they had a social worker come in,

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and my sister and brother are like, oh fuck, We're

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all three of us like, this isn't going to go

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good because he, you know, right, he doesn't want to

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talk to counselors. He doesn't want to talk to anybody.

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So he we're sitting there and he's looking down and

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the woman's asking him questions and what broke it and

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what made me see is when she said something to

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him and he goes, yeah, that makes sense, and he

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kind of just he went with it and he goes, now,

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I'm starting to see what you're saying, and it makes

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it makes sense to me. And he wasn't as resistant

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to this person.

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Speaker 3: But you know, they come in.

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Speaker 1: High Bill, high Bill, I'm a social worker. I'm here, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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And it wasn't the social worker, but there was a

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bunch of people.

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Speaker 3: That day, and one of who have to care about

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people like nurses, social they mean well, they mean, well,

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they're they're.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to like it's like it feels even for us,

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like you're talking down to him a little bit. And

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so Bill, and we're gonna take your blood pressure. Hi Bill,

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I'm I'm a social worker.

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Speaker 3: My name is so and so and so.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, and then he uh. But

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it was during one of those meetings. I'm retelling the story,

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but they said to him, when you were married, you know,

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just I think it was more for cognitive ability. When

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you were married, what did you call your wife? How

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did you refer you when we were fighting or otherwise,

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like there.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: Bill, all right, that had I had no it was

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the turn with Jamison. Yeah, no, no, we're fine. I

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just I had no direction there. I apologize.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean I think some of our best

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discussions are when we have no direction. Yes, I've always said,

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this is the this is what the old show was

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off air. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the

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stuff we talked about off their.

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the job, slipped when you should have gripped, or your

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boss thinks overtime means free labor. Spoiler, it doesn't. They've

472
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,599
got your back at connorson Ferris, with offices in New

473
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,440
York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. They're the go to

474
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:08,559
team for getting the compensation you deserve. No gimmicks, no nonsense,

475
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,720
just real results. Call Connors and Ferris two six two comp.

476
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:27,400
That's two six two comp for Connors and Farris. Something

477
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:31,319
wrong with the world today, I don't know what it is.

478
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: Something's wrong with talk about a band ahead of a resurgence.

479
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Desmond Child? Help?

480
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: Who's that? Whose child?

481
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who that Desmond Child?

482
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: I should know. I'm embarrassed.

483
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Speaker 1: Rock guy Desmond Child broke a lot of bon Jovi's

484
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,599
biggest hits. They didn't write on their something well they did,

485
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,599
but he he came in and and he was a

486
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,799
punched up guy. Basically I should look up exactly who,

487
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:06,880
uh Desmond Child is and I hope I have the

488
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,440
right name, but I'm pretty sure Desmond Child was like

489
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:20,359
a like a punch up writer, almost American songwriter, record producer. Yeah. Uh,

490
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,480
let's see overboard seventy one years old. He lives in Gainesville, Florida.

491
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240
He's live anywhere he wons. I mean, he's got to

492
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,759
be one rich motherfucker living on a prayer. Uh. He

493
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had his own song, Desmond Child in Rogue in nineteen

494
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:42,759
seventy nine. Our Love is Insane Love on the rooftop. Yeah,

495
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:48,000
Viva live in La Vida Loca. Oh no Viva la diva. Sorry,

496
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,279
oh god? Yeah, he wrote it just a ship to kids.

497
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Speaker 3: Good good for HMPT on.

498
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Speaker 1: This, but I think he came in and punched up

499
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stuff for Aerosmith's. Well they sobered up, Yeah, that's true.

500
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,079
Then they did the run DMC video. Yeah, and that

501
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,440
really kind of put them back. But you're you're right.

502
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,119
I think Stephen. I think Joe Perry. No one could

503
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,440
get a hold of Stephen, and he's like, so he

504
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,680
started the Joe Perry project.

505
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then uh, Janie's Got a Gun. I forgot

506
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:17,599
what movie that was part of. Was that part of

507
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,200
a soundtrack.

508
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 6: No.

509
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Speaker 1: I just remember Bamby's Got a Gun that was played

510
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,759
at the beginning of Untie season and.

511
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,079
Speaker 3: The Hunters on the Run.

512
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: You never heard of he never did. I gotta see

513
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,839
record find it was that a h I think it

514
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
was a Bob Wolf. That was just when I worked

515
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,720
in Poughkeepsie. Uh.

516
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Speaker 3: That was Janie's Got a Gun. That was their big

517
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:39,119
comeback single.

518
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

519
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: And then the funniest thing was when they came out

520
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,559
with the orchestral version on MTV of dream On, and

521
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,880
then I'm like, wow, that was really cool. And then

522
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,759
I hear the original. I go, dad, who's sang the

523
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,839
original version of dream On? He goes, Danny Boy, I

524
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,720
don't know if to ask one of your friends. I

525
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,400
asked him to go, oh, that was Erol Smith too.

526
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,799
I go, wait a minute, yeah, I go the same

527
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,640
guy who sang dream On is Steven Tywer who sings

528
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,160
the dream I go, oh, yeah, his voice was wrecked

529
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,519
at that point by Heroin. I'm like, holy cow, I

530
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,640
had no idea it was the same dude, because his

531
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,400
voice had just changed, and yet he could still sing.

532
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:18,920
He just couldn't sing the way he sang in the seventies.

533
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:21,960
He could say it about a lot of guys, but

534
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:23,440
I mean his voice changed quickly.

535
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. All right, I can't find this, but

536
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,799
there was a It was Bambi's got a gun like

537
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,839
Janie's got a gun. Yeah, that's what it was. Anyway,

538
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:35,599
it doesn't matter. A lot of things happening in the world.

539
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,519
Danny and I came into the studio today here in

540
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:47,920
Fairport and we did pass the no Kings protest or demonstration. Yes, yeah,

541
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
I would call it a protest. I think you're right,

542
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:54,920
that's way better description. Yeapah, way better description. Any thoughts

543
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,119
on that, I have a lot of thoughts.

544
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: And yet at the end of the day, okay, whatever, Yeah,

545
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,440
I'm not a protest guy. I'm not a demonstration guy.

546
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,559
I'm like, if you want to really like affect change

547
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:08,559
that actually do something, don't just talk about it.

548
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: Right.

549
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:14,039
Speaker 3: And I drove through and I see, I'm gonna be honest,

550
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:17,400
I didn't see one attractive person I drove through. I

551
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,200
saw a lot of old people, which means, what do

552
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,480
old people have a lot of time to do nothing?

553
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of old people.

554
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: I saw a ton of old people and women yeah, yeah,

555
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,200
I saw I didn't see any young men. I didn't

556
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,119
see any I saw a couple of young guys.

557
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,079
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, you know, yeah, I think that

558
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,680
there's I don't have a problem with it at all.

559
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:40,079
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. You could do whatever you want.

560
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: I think it's people who it was peaceful too, there

561
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:44,000
was no there were no riots.

562
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:44,519
Speaker 3: None of that stuff.

563
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I think it's people who love this country, oh yeah,

564
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:49,279
and are concerned.

565
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,319
Speaker 3: We all want the same things. We just disagree on

566
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:51,960
how to get there.

567
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,119
Speaker 1: And I think that the the thing that I think

568
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,400
people are starting to see a little bit, this will

569
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:07,720
get weird, is that we're seeing someone who in interviews

570
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,079
many many years ago, has admitted their thin skinned being

571
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,839
President Trump, and it does seem like he's going after

572
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:22,000
political opponents i'll call them, or people with others that

573
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440
kind of using the power of the office to do that,

574
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,559
which isn't what shouldn't be done right, shouldn't be done no.

575
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,319
Speaker 3: I think, And I think it's because in a lot

576
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:36,119
of ways, it's like they went after him too Russia,

577
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:39,480
which wasn't true. Politician James stuff wasn't wasn't We found

578
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,400
out it wasn't true.

579
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: And so I just wish that someone would, I mean.

580
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,359
Speaker 3: Somebody be the adult in the room. Stop because then

581
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,279
the next time the next guy is going to do

582
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,319
the same thing. It's just going to go back.

583
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I'll always say things. I'll always say, you know, outside

584
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,960
of here, if you work for a media corporation, there

585
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,319
really is no free speech. They can endorse or not

586
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:05,000
endorse whatever you want. Whatever they want right, or they

587
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,519
can you could pull great ratings. But if advertisers often

588
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,119
going to go did you hear what he said, I'm

589
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,319
not advertising on that show, You'll lose your job. It's

590
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,759
not free speech. It's money, and everything comes down to money.

591
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,799
The ABC GM Kimmel thing, when you looked at it,

592
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,839
it was the FCC spotlighting one guy over a comment. Eh,

593
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,440
that was sort of he didn't need to weigh in innocuous.

594
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:35,680
And then you find out that Disney ESPN is trying

595
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,119
to buy NFL network and it needs FCC approval. Look

596
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,559
the optics, well just say that. I don't know if

597
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,200
this is all true or not. I'm not in those meetings,

598
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,279
but I do find all this stuff so unsettling that

599
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,680
I don't watch the news and I feel a little

600
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,240
out of touch.

601
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of the people on

602
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:57,039
either side get their news from their side. Like if

603
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,839
you even to go to a certain browser says news

604
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,559
from the left, news from the right, which would you like,

605
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400
oh really, oh yeah, what browser is that? Brave? Do

606
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,920
you go to the brain? I use a brave browser,

607
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,960
and the brave browser news from the left, news from

608
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,839
the right. I'm like, no, just give me the freaking doll.

609
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920
But you can though. That's the point interesting, right, I

610
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,720
think people like I think a lot of people watch

611
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,359
CNN and they think that's the way the world works.

612
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,319
But I think that people watch Fox News and they

613
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:21,960
think that's the way the world works. I think one

614
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,599
side typically protest or demonstrates more than the other because

615
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:29,519
I think the others like going up college professors, you know,

616
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,839
like they're they're like, howcome college is are so liberal? Okay,

617
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,799
this is just an observation. I think it's because educators

618
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,319
typically are in the business of education, whereas people who

619
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:41,759
want to make money are in business and don't have

620
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,039
time for that. Right, they're not teaching college. They're out

621
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,680
earning money. They're working, Okay, they're not writing books jaging

622
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,799
themselves off in their own opinion. Okay, they just don't.

623
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,240
I'm serious, they just don't have the time.

624
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,599
Speaker 1: Well okay, but sometimes it could be said the people

625
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,559
that are more intellect wall see things on a bigger

626
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,640
scale and and have a softer side for humanity. Right,

627
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,000
so we want to help help filman. I believe that

628
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,880
there is no human being that wants to see other

629
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,519
human beings suffer. I just don't. But I think I

630
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,480
really do. I think if we see someone suffering, we

631
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:22,839
would try to help them out.

632
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,279
Speaker 3: Those of us with a rational mind, okay, but sound mind.

633
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: But I think there are some people who But I

634
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,319
think sometimes when we involve the government to do it,

635
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,720
it gets fucked up. Oh dude. And that's why when

636
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:37,039
you said, when you see when you see Bezo's ex

637
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,680
wife giving away millions and millions of dollars to things,

638
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,519
I don't think that that's done Willy Nilly. I think

639
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:47,519
she sees organizations that she knows that she can affect

640
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:54,720
change in a monumental way and help mankind if that's wonderful, right,

641
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,680
And there's no government that has to get in. I mean,

642
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
it's just because it just becomes more bureaucracy and Jesus Christ.

643
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: Have you been to the DMV.

644
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: They're not happy being there. You know what I'm saying,

645
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Like any government thing, it's like right, all right, because

646
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,119
and it becomes a slog I don't know about cleaning

647
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,039
things up. I have said this before. I will say

648
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:21,200
two things about President Trump. Maybe the most effective at

649
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,599
using the presidency I have ever seen in the history

650
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,960
of this country. Not that I'm a scholar in the

651
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,559
history of this country. I am not. But he it's

652
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,559
a bully pulpit. And when Stan Main sat here, who

653
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,160
is on the left, and said, the guy is effective.

654
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,119
He got things done. Maybe you don't agree, but he

655
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,680
got things done. The border crossings are down. Are we

656
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:53,359
going about it the right way? Big debate there, right,

657
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:58,920
h some of it's pretty harsh, sounds scary. I don't

658
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,680
weigh in on these things a lot of times because

659
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,599
I go, I'm a privileged white guy, and I know

660
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,279
that that sounds that rubs people the wrong way. But

661
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,400
they're not coming after her, do you know what I'm saying.

662
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,400
They're not coming after me. I don't have to worry

663
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
about that. I'm not here trying to make am.

664
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,519
Speaker 3: You and I live at the top of the food train, right,

665
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,679
and like, if you write down our list of worries,

666
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,519
and you write down, like if you took like if

667
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,360
you took like several groups that wrote down their list

668
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,559
of worries and eliminated the trivial crap. Okay, yeah, okay,

669
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,480
the celebratory garbage that you know, then it is much

670
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,920
different living in certain areas. It is much different living

671
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,320
in certain skin colors, yeah, than others.

672
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,079
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's okay to recognize that. So

673
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,679
I don't usually weigh in on that, but just as

674
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,079
a purpose, like and stand pointed this out Obama and

675
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,719
it might have been a second administration one hundred days

676
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,280
in they come to him and go, hey, Poles are saying,

677
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,719
people are sick of hearing you. They're sick of hearing

678
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,599
from Obama. So he tones down his rhetoric. You think

679
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,639
that there's a second that President Trump's going to tone

680
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:03,719
down on that anything. No, And that's the effectiveness that

681
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,039
I'm talking about. You know, where we try to dance

682
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,880
to the people a little bit, He's just going, fuck you,

683
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:13,840
I'm gonna do this. I'm not saying he's right, I'm

684
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,039
just saying that's what I'm observing. I'm observing someone who

685
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,320
goes I have an agenda and I don't give a shit,

686
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,880
and I'm going to get it done. And if I

687
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,039
don't think there's anybody here, look, illegal immigration is a

688
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:32,239
huge toll on the country, anybody in this country, and

689
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,400
we could just look at it here. And this is

690
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,920
why there are so many fundraisers for things like Galasano

691
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,840
Children's Hospital or hospitals in general, because when anybody shows

692
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,960
up to the er, they have to be seen whether

693
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,880
they can pay or not. Well, hospitals don't run an

694
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,039
air no, okay. And I'm not even saying, like, you know,

695
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,039
sure could a doctor. And I don't know the medical

696
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:03,840
ethics board, but in some ethics borts do recommend that

697
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,440
you do pro bono work. I don't know if that's

698
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,360
in the doctors or not. I'm sure there's a few

699
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,559
that probably would maybe even donate their time at a clinic,

700
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,480
but the machines, do you understand, I'm saying, whatever you need,

701
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,079
the oxygen, all that stuff cost, so it becomes a

702
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,400
toll on the country. Do I like seeing somebody who's

703
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,199
trying to make themselves better? Yeah? Does this country give

704
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,280
you opportunities from where they come from that they may

705
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,920
not have. Absolutely, do we need to change the immigration

706
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,079
laws in some way that is more effective? And again

707
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:42,079
I don't know any about this. I would say yes,

708
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,559
but illegal immigration does hurt things, It takes jobs away,

709
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:51,400
it does stuff, And I whether or not, I think

710
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,719
people on both sides will say this, and I know

711
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,000
they have. I think Hillary Clinton talked about this so

712
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,360
but he shut it down, he got it done. Is

713
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,320
he doing it the right way? That's a scary thing.

714
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,840
That is almost like a king coming in and go.

715
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,159
You don't blong it. Go. But that's where we are.

716
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,400
And I'll say this. I think there's an underbelly of

717
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:19,719
this country that has been exposed. Oh yeah, meaning racist hate,

718
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,000
ugliness that was sort of tamped down. Right, I can't

719
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,039
say anything anymore. Archie Bunker's back, you know what I mean?

720
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000
And I don't know that that's bad. And here's why

721
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,000
we can't pretend that it doesn't exist and move forward.

722
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,639
You've got to address the problem. And I think at

723
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
least if it's if we're seeing more of it, we

724
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,239
know that it's there. So how do we do this?

725
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,000
It is a country that is considered the best in

726
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,960
the world by many, right, me included. But you've got

727
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,119
a lot of different opinions and a lot of different

728
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:58,199
things going on, and how do you all come together.

729
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,800
There are many people who say America's too big. I mean,

730
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,280
you know, you know, it's just it's it's too big,

731
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,000
it's too hard to get How do you get everybody right? Well,

732
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,320
we've seem to have done it for two hundred and

733
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,440
fifty years, so let's hope that it continues that way.

734
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,079
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of At the end of the day,

735
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,119
it's going to come down to one thing. What's on

736
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:24,320
the table, m what's on the table? Yeah, my eating

737
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:27,559
yeah right, my head. Yes, that's what it's all going

738
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:28,639
to ultimately come down to.

739
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: And we're seeing things like, look, I know people who

740
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:43,199
have means, right, they went to Europe, bought a bunch

741
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:48,599
of stuff, had it shipped over, and we're shocked when

742
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,239
they went to pick it up that they had to

743
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,760
pay five hundred dollars to get the stuff that they

744
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,960
already paid for because it's the tariffs, right, So and

745
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
it just shocked. It was a point, well, the tariffs

746
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,480
and things could make things. We can say, well, it's

747
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:05,920
making things more expensive, it could hurt the economy or

748
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,079
I don't I'm not smart enough for this at all,

749
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,920
or couldn't make us buy from American borders, and sometimes

750
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:18,000
that is more expensive, and that's why we're not buying it.

751
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,719
But now if we made this more expensive, and you know,

752
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,719
if something's a dollar fifty American made and it's fifty

753
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400
cents from overseas, and now it's two dollars from overseas

754
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,119
and still a dollar fifty, where are you going that?

755
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,039
And maybe that's the point with this. I don't know. Yeah,

756
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,639
I'm dumbing things down because I'm dumb, but I don't

757
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,760
because I don't know enough. But I see this stuff

758
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,280
and I go, I just think it's people who love

759
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,480
the country and oh yeah there were a.

760
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: Ways, but American flags and stuff. I mean, like, look,

761
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,559
I think everybody wants with a rational mind, wants America

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
to be great. Yes, it wants what they used to

763
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,440
have or want something. I think it becomes a question

764
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:01,639
of when we start to get carried away with certain

765
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,880
people not pulling their weight, or certain groups doing things

766
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,639
the kids that shouldn't happen. And I think that, and

767
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,079
then there's also these other things that like you know.

768
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,519
Speaker 1: I get that. I know where you're going with the

769
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:17,480
pulling your weight thing. Okay, but kids, what are you

770
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:17,960
talking about?

771
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: Oh dude, Like, I'm sorry but this.

772
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm not looking to Let's keep it calm, keep

773
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,519
it ready, give it down, because you're better heard that way.

774
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: I don't want that. Children really know what they want,

775
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,119
and there has been and it's been proven now through

776
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:40,880
polls and everything else, that transgenderism what's a fad? And

777
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,400
more and more kids are seeing the dangers of it

778
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,480
and they're like, no, I don't want anything to do

779
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,280
with us. And I think that like parents like say,

780
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,039
oh you think you're a girl. Okay, well let's go

781
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,639
get you tested for that. And I mean like like

782
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,760
kids don't know. Like you have a fifteen year old

783
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,199
at home, right, you have to direct him in every direction?

784
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

785
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Well all of a sudden, like Jamison comes home

786
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,760
one dances I want to be a woman. Yeah, you'd

787
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,119
be like, wait, why not try it up.

788
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I'm not going to change your parts,

789
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:07,360
but try it up. There are people who are like,

790
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,719
you know, well, I don't know Dan, because I don't

791
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,800
see that stuff. So I can't even you don't have kids. No, no, no,

792
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:15,239
not you.

793
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,519
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you know people.

794
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I don't know the numbers that

795
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,559
you speak of. I don't know. I can't say to

796
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,320
you those are factual or I don't know. As far

797
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,800
as transgender being, I think that there is something that

798
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,920
is in some human beings and they're not comfortable in

799
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,960
their own skin. And that's a terrible thing that's got

800
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,440
to feel awful. And but but I believe this has

801
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:46,599
gone on since the beginning of time when man first

802
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,719
appeared on the planet. And I only say that because

803
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,039
there were little communities that would pop up of people

804
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:57,199
who were like minded, right, certain parts of like New

805
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,960
York City and things. I mean on the wild Side

806
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920
song from the sixties, right, I think we're seventieses, right,

807
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,360
it's about yeah, but about transcender, about cross dressing. Lola

808
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:13,320
from the Kinks in the sixties. It's another song.

809
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,079
Speaker 3: Point, Okay, you're an adult, fine, exactly exactly, I understand.

810
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: Yes. All I'm saying is I think people have had

811
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,320
these internal conflicts. I remember finding out.

812
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called it's called growing up.

813
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,119
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, no, I mean in terms

814
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,639
of where they just aren't comfortable in their skin as

815
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,440
an adult. We're sticking with adults for the moment. And

816
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,280
I remember hearing that a girl that I went to

817
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,840
church with grandfather got caught walking around in women's clothes.

818
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:49,119
And I remember my father telling me that they thought

819
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:53,920
somebody he worked with was a cross dresser because they

820
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,039
saw a shoe, a woman's shoe catalog in his on

821
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,679
his desk made and the sizes in it were like

822
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,079
sixteen fifteen. Like those are big feet, right, My boys

823
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,880
have feet that big. But I'm eleven or twelve. They're

824
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,119
you know, like these are so weird, right. So I'm

825
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,800
just saying, like, I think there's always been that, and

826
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,400
I think some of the people who have had that

827
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,000
see the struggle they went through and are saying, no,

828
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,440
I was like this at ten. I knew this at ten.

829
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,960
I'm with you. I don't want to see someone make

830
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,599
a decision when your frontal cortex isn't fully developed until

831
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,320
you're twenty five for men, and I think it's like

832
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:41,760
twenty two twenty one for women. I think it's a

833
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,760
tough I think it's a tough road. I also think

834
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,960
that for parents you're trying to. You love your kids

835
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,119
so much, you just want them happy, and you think

836
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,840
if this is going to make them happy. But I

837
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,639
don't know the numbers. I don't see it. I do

838
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,639
see adult transgender people. I think that they're I think

839
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,360
that I'll be honest with you, I think some of

840
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,800
the splintering would we would say what side of the

841
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,119
aisle would you think most people who support or are

842
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,599
transcender and love trans it would be probably the left,

843
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,599
although you might be surprised, there's always Caitlin Jenner right,

844
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,679
it's on the other side.

845
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: But I think that that there's so much friction over there.

846
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,199
Speaker 1: There's just too many pieces for the Democrats to almost

847
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,639
get it together, you know what I mean? Like everybody's

848
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:36,119
going and my personal belief in life and this is weird,

849
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,000
and I this is gonna sound very strange, So just

850
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:42,159
just bear with me. You believe in God? Do I

851
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,480
believe in a source of energy that is God? We

852
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:45,679
call it God. That's fine.

853
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,679
Speaker 3: I believe Jesus Christ.

854
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: I believe that. And I'll give you examples that everything

855
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,480
in this world is a vibration and an energy, and

856
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
when you push against something, you get more of it

857
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,639
because like the law of gravity, there are lots there

858
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:08,840
are physical laws, and the scientists are starting to prove

859
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,079
this out and that you can take action. But if

860
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:17,199
you're not fully aligned in some spiritual way, it doesn't work.

861
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:21,519
And my example of this is the war on drugs

862
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:24,760
has ever worked.

863
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,119
Speaker 3: No, in fact, they even canceled there right because we're

864
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:29,519
pushing against, pushing against.

865
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: So what happens? I really think And I know that

866
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,239
you people can go you're fucking insane, this is the

867
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,519
dumbest or wooh is shit. But I think if you

868
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,360
look at life and you even think for yourself things

869
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,400
that you've pushed so hard against, why Because it was

870
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,480
so hard the other way and once you sort of

871
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,000
let go and let God or let go and let

872
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,320
the universe, it just went easier. And I think, like

873
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,599
Nancy Reagan's warned, they're changing now. You know what they

874
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:58,320
teach in schools.

875
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: Now, if a kid comes in and.

876
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Goes, yeah, I've been doing drugs, they're not saying don't

877
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,239
ever do drugs again. And the reason they're doing that

878
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,039
it didn't work because the kid went, well, fuck this,

879
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:11,840
I'm just gonna go do it. They say, how can

880
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,920
I help you wean off this? What are like? They

881
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:19,760
actually it almost feels like it's more beneficial. And I see,

882
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,559
like when we push against the no Kings, my concern

883
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,639
is that the other side is coming back just as hard.

884
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,960
Oh they are, you know what I mean? Wind up

885
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:33,639
here and we wind up like and it's that. And

886
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,199
I just used examples of like the war on drugs,

887
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,199
the war on poverty. Have we ever gotten rid of poverty? No? No,

888
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,320
will we ever get rid of poverty? Probably not?

889
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:43,119
Speaker 3: Jesus said that's not gonna happen.

890
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's always because we're pushing, but

891
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,119
work on a bop, you know, force this thing to be.

892
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,239
And I that's my concern with it, I believe. I

893
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,639
don't know if you think I'm nuts, No.

894
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: That's valid. I also think that they're I think the

895
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,559
reason why certain sides push so hard is because, you know,

896
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,239
coming from you know, my perspective as a Christian, like

897
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,519
you know that the saying is that you know, I

898
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,920
don't even I don't know what the saying is. But

899
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,840
the point is that when you just let let stuff go,

900
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,480
let stuff go, and let stuff go, all of a sudden,

901
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:12,079
you end up here.

902
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, well, because you're right, and I see

903
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,599
what you're saying. I totally see what you're saying. But

904
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,159
I think, yes, I think that we need to be

905
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,119
disciplined in our own lives. You feel better when you're together, Yes,

906
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480
you don't feel good when you're not supposed to be alone.

907
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,519
Somebody did a study of all the studies.

908
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is hysterical. Someone did a study of all

909
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,440
the studies and they found that the greatest detriment to health,

910
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:48,119
to society, to mental health, to poverty, loneliness. Yeah, we

911
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,679
are meant to be together.

912
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: Social animals. Yeah, we're social animals, and we need.

913
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 3: Men and women live longer when they're married, when they're married.

914
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,039
But there was somebody else, or I would even.

915
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,639
Speaker 1: Say, I'll give an example of my mom and dad.

916
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:07,880
My dad died seventy nine years old. My mother is

917
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,079
maybe seventy nine now, and she just bought a new car.

918
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,400
She's on her way up to see to my brothers

919
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,159
this weekend to watch the kids play sports, and she

920
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,119
wants to get up before the weather kind of really

921
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:26,920
turned right. Yeah, beautiful, she's got right, she's got her whole.

922
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:30,480
She goes and does adult ed classes at the.

923
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: Local college.

924
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but the Bard Bard College, so yeah, barred

925
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,719
March Shed. She produces classes there and she like anything

926
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,519
from but it's adults, right, so it's a community of support.

927
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,159
She has her coffee groups, she goes to what did

928
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:57,079
my dad had fucking nothing? Nothing? Why? Because he just

929
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:02,119
was not that guy? And I remember going to visit

930
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,719
him when he lived in Jersey, just he and I.

931
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,679
But this would have been two three das Danny. I

932
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,920
don't know what he did all day. It would get

933
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,039
it was hot, it was summertime, and he would do

934
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,679
so I was reading, he's reading, he would fall asleep.

935
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,480
I'd fall asleep, or you want to go to the dinner.

936
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:24,480
The guy had nothing nothing, And he had said it

937
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,920
at some point maybe I should go back and substitute

938
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,800
in school, just to have a purpose, to have a thing.

939
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,800
And that's so right, what you're saying. And there it

940
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,559
is in my life. My mother is thriving and will

941
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,400
probably live maybe two or nineties. Her mother went to

942
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:44,639
ninety six and my dad did not. And my dad,

943
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:48,320
very very social like even said to me because he

944
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,199
lived in a it used to be military housing and

945
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,840
then they split them in half and so it's kind

946
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,639
of a they owned it, but it was a smaller

947
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,440
like apartment almost right. You had a nice kitchen, living room,

948
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:04,039
two bedrooms, bathroom, and they had community events. So he said,

949
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,360
I think I'm going to go to the community event

950
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,360
blah blah blah. And then he comes home and I

951
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,719
had some women talking to me and I'll tell you

952
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,840
what not for me, Like he was proud that he

953
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,039
sort of got hit on, but at the same time

954
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:23,960
he's like, I've been around the block. And then they

955
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:27,599
did a game which I believe we did in radio

956
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:30,440
way way way back when I was on CMF in

957
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,119
the afternoon, I would broadcast live from jack Asters. Somebody

958
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:37,519
would get a plunger, put the stick out between their legs,

959
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,360
and someone would stand at the other side of the

960
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,960
room with a roll of toilet paper and you had

961
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,480
to get the plunder stick through the roll of toilet

962
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:47,960
paper that was in there in between their legs. They

963
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,639
did this at my dad. He goes, I'm never going again.

964
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,880
That was the most disgusting, vile thing you can think.

965
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,559
I want to see these people. They can't even get

966
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:58,559
it up that blah blah blah, like.

967
00:50:58,679 --> 00:50:59,039
Speaker 4: You went on.

968
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: He did twenty minutes.

969
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,119
Speaker 3: I'm wan a fucking p ss like okay, but that.

970
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,039
Speaker 1: Was your social go deuced, go go. He was lonely,

971
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:10,039
and he'd started talking about how lonely he was. And

972
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:13,280
I can't I will never ever in my life be

973
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,280
able to thank my brother and sister in law enough

974
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,639
for the immense effort and attention they paid him to

975
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,480
move him up there, to try to get him out

976
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,280
and be social. And my brother will say, anytime he

977
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,440
came to a game or anything, he's like all my

978
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,000
friends would gather around. Yeah. The guy was fucking funny

979
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,639
and brilliant and interesting and softened a little bit as

980
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,840
he got older, more accepting, and he just wished that

981
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,920
you know, I did. I did take him to sign

982
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,920
up for the UH the community center that I think

983
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,360
they had an old age. I think he had to

984
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,639
be over a certain age to join, and I got

985
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,360
I took him Jamison and I took him and registered him.

986
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:57,559
But I think by then his health was failing so

987
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,480
much that he couldn't really drive, but they but he was.

988
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,760
He was very open now because I think he saw

989
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,440
the benefits to socialization and anything that he would I mean,

990
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,000
he was.

991
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: A sarcastic, prick.

992
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: He would make fun of everything, which I loved, but

993
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:18,000
he was super lonely. And so what you're saying is

994
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:18,760
exactly right.

995
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: I remember before Beth, when I was single, divorced, AND's

996
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,079
like looking forward to the weekend, looking forward the weekend,

997
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:31,679
maybe five o'clock on Friday, like, oh, it's just me,

998
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,280
well by myself. Yeah, I don't have that, you know,

999
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,559
And it is one of my bandmates are no, they're

1000
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,760
they're they're married. And my brother, oh know, he moved away.

1001
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,599
My friends they're all married and they've moved away.

1002
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just me. I have had those moments too.

1003
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:54,800
And I at one time was going to a bar

1004
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:57,559
and then I would see people who were like, you know,

1005
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,920
normal when they would come in, hey.

1006
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:01,679
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't want this to be my

1007
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,519
social circle all the time. Yeah.

1008
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: So but then I became and I was four years

1009
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,159
friends with the guy who owns the Irish pub in

1010
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,360
town and through his we and so now I have

1011
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,880
a group of guys about my age. Some are divorced,

1012
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:22,039
some are remarried, some you know, but like even last

1013
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,199
night I got on the phone with one guy's wife

1014
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,920
was like come on, let him stay out to ten thirty. So,

1015
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,480
but yeah, and that is sort of my soul. I

1016
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:33,360
love hanging out with those guys. One of this guy

1017
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:37,960
is you know, the former God. He made me laugh

1018
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,920
so fucking hard yesterday we're sitting there. He was a writer.

1019
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,239
I think I've talked about this guy for Family Guy

1020
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,559
and stuff. He was a writer for the show Titus

1021
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,239
on Fox. And he is one of the quickest, funniest

1022
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,760
people I've ever met, next to Tommy let I'll always

1023
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,079
say that about Tommy. Tommy was the best in that

1024
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,559
role I've ever heard on radio period anywhere in the country.

1025
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,360
Howard starned anything. I think Tomulay was absolutely and it

1026
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,599
was a joy to work with that guy. This guy

1027
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,559
John is so funny. So they're making fun of my wallet,

1028
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,639
like I got the big, thick dad wallet whatever like this, right,

1029
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,119
And I don't really Usually I don't take my wallet.

1030
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,559
I don't even know what the fuck's in here. I

1031
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,400
just take out like the card I'm gonna use, maybe

1032
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,920
my license and a student ID because I'm a fisher, right,

1033
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,119
And my friend Tony pulls out this little tiny wallet

1034
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,079
and he goes, look, I keep my card she goes,

1035
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:36,400
you got to fold up your cash you put it

1036
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,480
in there, and John looks at it and goes, oh,

1037
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,639
you got that off team. Will wait, I'm gonna get

1038
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:48,840
the joke wrong. He goes, oh, you ordered a duffel

1039
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,280
bag and that's what showed up from Timu and whatever

1040
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,199
it was, the timing was so good. I'm fucking the

1041
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,360
joke up terribly. But like, that's the people I love.

1042
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,800
I'm sorry, I'm spinning. That's the people I love hanging

1043
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,719
out with. And every Friday I sometimes will leave where

1044
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,119
I'm working and go right there just for an hour,

1045
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,480
just an hour. I don't need to get all hammered

1046
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,599
up in anything. I do have a drinking problem, admit that.

1047
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 3: But you're right.

1048
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,039
Speaker 1: And here we go again, on and on and on

1049
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:20,679
in our show. Yep, sorry, Danny, that's all right. We're

1050
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:25,440
gonna do one more segment. I want to talk about

1051
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,679
something that was said by a baseball manager and see

1052
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,719
what Danny's thoughts are on that, and then take it

1053
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:39,519
to almost back to it can almost tie into politically

1054
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:41,800
in a certain way. It is a form of politics.

1055
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I get a good feeling, you, Yeah, I get

1089
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,880
a feeling that I never never, never, never happy.

1090
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: Full, No, no, God, you know what it is.

1091
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,639
Speaker 1: It is? Well, look at you, nice, Paul.

1092
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:59,719
Speaker 4: I believe I really do.

1093
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:11,199
Speaker 1: Something's got a hold on. Come on, baby, what a gift?

1094
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: God?

1095
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: What I feel?

1096
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: So strange? Everything a.

1097
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,599
Speaker 1: Little sports stuff because the bills are off this week.

1098
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,440
So that's a little bit of.

1099
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,119
Speaker 3: A pressure relief, a kiff from God.

1100
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: But something's got a hold on me.

1101
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: My love for the Buffalo Bills.

1102
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,559
Speaker 1: But I did see, Uh, it'll be the Dodgers, and

1103
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:42,199
I don't know.

1104
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,199
Speaker 3: You will be either the Mariners or the Js.

1105
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,679
Speaker 1: The Jays, right, but I don't know where we are

1106
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,880
in that series three two Seattle, Okay, So talking about

1107
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,880
tonto'll probably a West Coast series and what it sounds like,

1108
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,800
which is cool. No, great, I'm fine with that. I

1109
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,280
here's why I would sort of root for Toronto. And

1110
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:09,159
I know people get a little Ernie Clement is from Pittsford, yep.

1111
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,559
And he plays for the Blue Jays, Yes he does,

1112
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:12,719
and so be kind of cool.

1113
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: The Yankee Killer.

1114
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, did not know?

1115
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, did not He beat the crap out of

1116
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:21,960
the Anks in that series.

1117
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: Ernie Clement, Yeah, oh I didn't know this.

1118
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. He says he tries to convert to Yankee

1119
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,639
fans to become Blue Jay fans when he comes back

1120
00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:31,199
to Rochester.

1121
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's funny. Well, the Dodgers manager Dave

1122
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,599
Roberts said this last night. Here it is, let me

1123
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:46,679
see what again, oration.

1124
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: And uh, I'll tell you.

1125
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: Before this season started, they said the Dodgers are ruining baseball.

1126
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,719
Speaker 3: Let's get four more wins and really ruined baseball. Let's go.

1127
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,679
Speaker 1: And they're saying like it's a stacked team, it's what

1128
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:04,599
the Yankees used to do. Blah blah blah.

1129
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:07,639
Speaker 3: You bought the talent. Do you agree, baseball fan? Dam

1130
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,360
Do I agree that he ruined that the Dodgers are

1131
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,000
ruining baseball?

1132
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: No?

1133
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:13,039
Speaker 1: No, me neither. I don't either.

1134
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: I think it's you have an enemy. Now you have

1135
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,599
a villain. The Yankees were a villain. Like you cannot

1136
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:22,360
I mean, if you're a Yankee fan, you cannot complain

1137
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,239
about payroll. Okay, all right, exactly you cannot complain about

1138
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:32,119
payroll if you're a Yankee fan. If you're a Mets fan,

1139
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:35,239
you can't complain. That's those are the rules. And by

1140
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,199
the way, there will no, there will not be a

1141
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,920
salary cap of baseball. Now there is the luxury tax,

1142
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,440
which is expensive. Okay, but if they want to pay it,

1143
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:47,559
God bless them. Good for them, sure, good for them.

1144
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,800
You know what the Yankees need to do and the

1145
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,760
Mets need to do is here's what the Dodgers did.

1146
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,480
They don't just sign guys. They also have a pretty

1147
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,360
good development, have a great minor league system. The Yankees

1148
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,559
development sucks. Does it sucks? I can give you four

1149
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,719
guys they've developed in the past twenty five years. Four

1150
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,679
And by developed, here's what I mean. I mean they

1151
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:09,239
got a second contract with the Yankees. I mean that

1152
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,239
they got a second contract with either the Yankees or

1153
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:13,400
the Yankees went after this dude, and they decided not

1154
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,000
to re sign. Only four, only four of those dudes.

1155
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:18,519
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, No, no, no, no, he was nineties.

1156
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,719
Speaker 3: Oh come talking about guys since to the Tournament Center.

1157
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: Since two thousand.

1158
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,079
Speaker 3: It is the turn of the said.

1159
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:25,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge is the obvious, the

1160
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:27,920
obvious one, right, and not that great in the minors.

1161
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:29,199
I don't think he did not he.

1162
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: He's he's worked, Yes, he's okay, he needed a full

1163
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,800
year at each minor league level before he got to

1164
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,679
the pros. Is there a picture that I'm not thinking

1165
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,679
of Luis Severino. Yes, and there's a reason you're not

1166
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:45,480
thinking of him because yeah, but yeah, one of the

1167
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:49,000
four yeah, okay, and then boy, I don't know if

1168
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:51,639
Robinson Cano, oh okay, yeah, we end up signing with

1169
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,800
the Mariners and the Yankees they kind of knew he

1170
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,679
was on steroids and he had exposed. And Brett Gardner, Now, Bill,

1171
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,079
I know you only know who judges on that list,

1172
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:04,360
but yeah, but what does that tell you?

1173
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:07,199
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, Gardner was solid. He wasn't great,

1174
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:08,119
but he was so was solid.

1175
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Yes, the Yankees don't develop talent. They just signed

1176
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,199
on the people's and the guys that they did develop

1177
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,039
or try to develop end up, you know, their arms

1178
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:19,519
flame out or they end up getting hurt or they're

1179
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:23,159
not that good, and they overvalue their prospects. They always

1180
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:26,199
have and so and the Mets do the same thing.

1181
01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:28,480
They don't develop the talent, and so they have to

1182
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,559
make up for it by spending money. And the Yanks

1183
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:34,480
have gone out and gotten all these old vets from

1184
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:36,599
these one year deals, and they're gonna run it back

1185
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:39,639
again next year. And I mean sometimes when I watch

1186
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:41,559
the Bills and the Yanks and their front offices, I

1187
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:46,559
feel like I'm watching the same team, one superstar carrying

1188
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:50,679
the load and everybody else along for the ride. Hey,

1189
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,239
we're just gonna run it back. We're not gonna change

1190
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:55,559
a thing. We're just gonna keep running it back. Now,

1191
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:59,199
I'll say this, we may have it. I missed it

1192
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,960
because you know, being married, you have to pick your spots.

1193
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,719
And I watched that Friday night. Ladies and gentlemen, you

1194
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,400
may have seen if you watched it, the greatest single

1195
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:14,119
performance of a baseball player in the history of the game.

1196
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,840
And we're going back to the eighteen hundreds, We're going

1197
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
back to Babe Ruth, We're going back to Ty Cobb.

1198
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:25,400
What did show, hey, Hotel hit three home runs, pitch

1199
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:28,280
six innings of one hit ball and threw ten strikeouts.

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:28,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1201
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,239
Speaker 3: I love Aaron Judge. Air judges at pitching right right,

1202
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,960
let alone, throwing ten strikeouts and throwing six innings of

1203
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:43,079
one hit freaking balls. That's unheard of. Otani maybe the

1204
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:46,639
greatest baseball player we've seen since Babe Ruth and I

1205
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:51,679
love Aaron Judge. Love Aaron Judge, and Aaron Judge like

1206
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,920
the Yankee Mount Rushmore. I hate using that topic, but

1207
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,480
it's always discussed in sports circles because sports guys have

1208
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,519
to kill time and take calls. The Mount Rushmore topic

1209
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:01,679
has always has been who's your Mount Rushmore? And the

1210
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:05,719
Mount Rushmore with the Yankees has always been Ruth, Gerig, Demaggio,

1211
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,599
and Mantle. He may actually edge out Judge, may actually

1212
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,280
edge out Demaggio. And that's something that Bara couldn't do.

1213
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:17,159
That's something Jeter couldn't do. Rivera, Mariano Rivera was a closer,

1214
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:19,719
so he's a pitcher, so he doesn't count. And yet

1215
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,320
Otani is better than Judge because he could pitch, and

1216
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:22,840
he could pitch.

1217
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,119
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know, it's a weird thing because that

1218
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:32,079
was so I don't it was the way baseball. I mean, babe,

1219
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:32,719
Ruth pitched.

1220
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, until he realized that, you know, like he was

1221
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,400
better off just playing the outfield hit because if you

1222
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,000
you could play every day, if he's if he was

1223
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,440
playing the outfit, which Otani's a DH slash pitcher, you know,

1224
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,360
when he's not pitching, he's he's dhing. And by the way,

1225
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,280
the Baseball change the rules so that the Nationalague could

1226
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,960
have a DH two, which, by the way, I think

1227
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,679
it makes the game more exciting and better. Like nobody

1228
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:55,800
wants to see the picture hit, yeah, but this picture,

1229
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,599
except this picture he's about to be able to hit

1230
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:03,360
the ball too. But it's like it's like Little League, right, Like, Okay,

1231
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,920
we gotta have Tommy pitching tonight because Tommy's awesome. I

1232
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,000
hope Tommy hits three home runs and pitches well tonight,

1233
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:10,960
we're gonna win. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah,

1234
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,559
it's like the big kid in Little league, all right,

1235
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:16,079
we gotta rely on big Tommy. Oh yeah, oh Tommy's amazing.

1236
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:19,119
But yeah, I agree with Roberts. I agree with Roberts. Yeah,

1237
01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:21,719
go ahead ruin baseball. It's not ruining baseball. You're actually

1238
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,599
there are more people now watching Baseball's on the coming back.

1239
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:27,880
Baseball's climbing now. It'll never reach the NFL, and it'll

1240
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,639
never reach what it was back in the seventies, eight

1241
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:34,840
and eighties and nineties before steroids, I don't think, but people.

1242
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,320
More people are watching baseball again, More people are going

1243
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,239
to games again. Attendance is up, ratings are up. The

1244
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,840
thing about baseball, though, is that you can't find the

1245
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:43,679
games anywhere.

1246
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,199
Speaker 1: No, you can't, because they're on Like apples, got a.

1247
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: Game on Sundays, you gotta go get a Roku stick.

1248
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Right, And I remember some old guys would come into

1249
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,159
thirsties got about a year ago or so, and they

1250
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:58,679
would say they came there to watch the game because

1251
01:05:58,679 --> 01:05:59,480
they couldn't find it on TV.

1252
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:01,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have to you have to, like okay,

1253
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:04,360
so here's the funniest thing. You have to Every team's

1254
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,079
got its own network. Okay, and the Yankee started that

1255
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:11,000
with Yes. Then you got Apple, then you got Roku,

1256
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,519
then you got Prime Games. There's games on Prime, TBS

1257
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:20,119
has games, ESPN no long will no longer be carrying games,

1258
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:21,840
but they're gonna work out some type of deal. And

1259
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,199
then on top of that, if you want the baseball package,

1260
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,559
it's ninety nine dollars a year, which actually isn't a

1261
01:06:27,639 --> 01:06:30,119
bad price when you get all the games except one thing.

1262
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:32,239
You don't get any Yankee games. You don't get a

1263
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,360
Mets games, you don't get.

1264
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:35,079
Speaker 1: A out thinkwork and I don't think no.

1265
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:37,599
Speaker 3: Because they're in New York state, they're local. You don't

1266
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,880
get local television. So because we're not in New York City,

1267
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:44,199
we get we get. You don't get Jay's games. I

1268
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:46,960
don't think. I don't think you get Cleveland games. Jesus. Yeah,

1269
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:51,800
so there's blackouts too. That sucks, right, I want to

1270
01:06:52,159 --> 01:06:53,719
The other thing too, is that if you if you'd

1271
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,400
rather watch sorry if you if you're like, if you

1272
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,320
get tired of watching your guys and you want to

1273
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,760
watch another network, like if TBS or ESPN has the

1274
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,480
game instead, if it's local, if you have a local connection, like, yes,

1275
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:11,920
you can't watch the game out of ESPN. Oh my, yeah, yeah.

1276
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,559
I mean it's like there's a lot of blackouts in

1277
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:15,920
red tape and baseballble rights.

1278
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:19,519
Speaker 1: That's maddening. That's really maddening, and it's unfortunate because I

1279
01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:21,280
think it does hurt the game. Yeah, I think it

1280
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,239
hurts the game. Here's something that politics of a different side.

1281
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:29,920
I saw this posted on my friend Chris Bianchi's Facebook

1282
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,079
page earlier in the week, and it was about a

1283
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
high school football coach who was averaging eleven wins a season,

1284
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:46,880
resigning over punishing some players for unsportsmanlike conduct, and then

1285
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:49,199
the parents threatening him.

1286
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay and.

1287
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: Listen here, we'll just see.

1288
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:57,559
Speaker 6: Over the last two and a half seasons, the Williams

1289
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:00,559
Valley football team has had a twenty eight and winning

1290
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:03,760
record and is brought back two District eleven two A titles.

1291
01:08:04,119 --> 01:08:07,159
Steven SIDESI the man coaching the team during those victories,

1292
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,880
resigned on Monday, in the middle of the season.

1293
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,159
Speaker 5: I decided Monday morning that if if my business is

1294
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:15,760
going to get threatened, if my family's going to get threatened,

1295
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,239
it's small school football. I don't I don't need to

1296
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:18,960
have that in my life.

1297
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: Sodesse says.

1298
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 6: Parents of players on the team have made threats to

1299
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,399
him and his father, Mike Sidessei, who was the defensive

1300
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,399
coordinator on the team.

1301
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,079
Speaker 5: We had tires flat the other night.

1302
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh my that truck. We had a billboard paint.

1303
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1304
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: Wait, they have a billboard painted, that, says Mike SIDESSI

1305
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:37,840
is the something.

1306
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 5: Painted with some derogatory words on it, pretty much the

1307
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,239
same ones I used there, about abuse and being abusive

1308
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:43,880
and stuff like.

1309
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 6: That, says. The reason this is happening is because over

1310
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,439
the last few weeks, players have been increasingly disrespectful.

1311
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 5: Be rating coaches, cursing at coaches.

1312
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 6: When coaches took disciplinary action like forcing kids to run,

1313
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,000
things didn't get better.

1314
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:59,399
Speaker 5: Kids didn't take to that so well and it started

1315
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:00,760
to really backfire.

1316
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 6: Eventually, tensions got so bad, Sidesse says, the school suspended

1317
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,920
his father from a future game just hours before the

1318
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,640
team was playing school wol Haven last month, and because

1319
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,239
players were still disuspectful after the fact, coaches decided to

1320
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:15,520
bend some of the players for their next game this Friday.

1321
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,319
Speaker 5: When parents obviously found out we were gonna be sitting

1322
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:21,079
some kids, we got a lot of backlash, a lot

1323
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:24,399
of threats. We were threatening that if their kid don't

1324
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,199
start in the game that they would need to have

1325
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:28,399
extra security at the game.

1326
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,319
Speaker 6: After threats escalated over the weekend, both Steven and his

1327
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,840
father decided to resign, and Williams Valley's athletic director is

1328
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,880
now stepping in as head coach. News watched sixteen reach

1329
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,520
out to the Williams Valley superintendent and has not received

1330
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,159
a response. Audie Iire News watched sixteen Schoogle County.

1331
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: God damn, Now, this sounds like a very rural part

1332
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,439
of Pennsylvania. And I don't know if I'll say this way,

1333
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,039
I don't know what was the movie All the Right

1334
01:09:55,119 --> 01:09:58,720
Moves that Tom Cruise was in Pennsylvania high school football, right,

1335
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,640
so that football was the way out of working in

1336
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,239
the steel mill or the coal mine or whatever it was.

1337
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,840
I think that was the thing and I'm just wondering,

1338
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:13,720
is this a poorer area and it's football seen as Hey,

1339
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,079
if my kid doesn't play there, chances doesn't get the scholarship.

1340
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 3: And so but that is insane. That's insane.

1341
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I thought, I go. I don't

1342
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,279
know much about this story, but it kept rumbling in

1343
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:31,239
my head. So that's why when you were talking baseball.

1344
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,680
I'm sorry, I was half listening as I was trying

1345
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:40,079
to find this story because it's I'm so sorry.

1346
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,199
Speaker 3: That's bath.

1347
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:44,079
Speaker 1: It's bath, right, Beth does the same thing.

1348
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 3: But the uh, what kind of milk?

1349
01:10:49,159 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm shocked. I'm really shocked because if

1350
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,159
if I thought a coach was abusive, maybe you have

1351
01:10:59,239 --> 01:11:03,920
a conversation. But if I think the coaches or or overstepping,

1352
01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:07,840
I can't say here's abusive, but overstepping, I have a conversation, right,

1353
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,119
But to not this makes no sense.

1354
01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: This is what parents run everything. Well say, it's like

1355
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:18,279
this is a bit of a.

1356
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:22,079
Speaker 1: Political thing, right. They forced the guy out or forced

1357
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:23,439
the guy's hand, and.

1358
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: Noone's gonna get a good football coach out of this, and.

1359
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,119
Speaker 1: They're telling him he's a pussy.

1360
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure and all this stuff.

1361
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,119
Speaker 1: But and look, he's a high school football coach. He

1362
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:35,800
has a business during the day, his own business. You're threatening.

1363
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,800
I remember when I was in high school. I went

1364
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,800
to school with the superintendent son, and he was not

1365
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,319
the most athletic guy. But you would see all of

1366
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:50,199
a sudden, Dad would hit the sideline. He'd be talking

1367
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:51,920
to the coach and the next thing, you know, Josh

1368
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,640
would be in. And you know, a lot of the

1369
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,119
guys would get really pissed off about it, but no

1370
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:04,319
one had the balls to really say anything. And you know,

1371
01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:06,119
I was a subject. He would sub in and he

1372
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:07,880
wouldn't be he'd be in for a little while, but

1373
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,760
not like you know, but it was weird every time

1374
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,680
Dad showed up on the sideline and he'd be over

1375
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,720
talking and doing his thing, and then the next thing,

1376
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,399
you know, all right, and I'd be like, come on,

1377
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,279
come on, come on. He was not that athletic at

1378
01:12:22,359 --> 01:12:26,079
whatever you're trying to do. Good bye your kid, or

1379
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:28,640
give your kid an opportunity to show that maybe he's

1380
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,039
better than you know, you'd think he's better than whatever.

1381
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,359
But the guy was made of stone. Shit just bounced.

1382
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,960
The balls would just bounce off this guy. He had

1383
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:42,039
no control whatsoever, couldn't catch couldn't.

1384
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 3: The adults always ruined everything unfortunately.

1385
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean this sounds like parents living vicariously through the kids.

1386
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,159
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I just I'm surprised in twenty twenty five.

1387
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:54,079
I'm not you're not.

1388
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:58,119
Speaker 1: No, it's a big country. Yeah, I guess, but you're

1389
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:01,600
slashing the guy's tires. Fucking collars are expensive, man, it's

1390
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,159
like eight hundred dollars minimum.

1391
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,319
Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson once said, he goes, how many of you

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in this room whatever become a Nazi? And nobody raised

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their hands. Sure, he goes, yeah, you're the perfect candidate.

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And here's why, and he went through all the examples

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of just how one person can turn two people, could

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turn four people to eight people. All of a sudden,

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mob rule grows and people start thinking in groups instead

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of thinking for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you want to belong to a group. And look,

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Hitler came in my mind. You can take gangs in

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certain parts of cities or of the country that and

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you can take the Nazis, and you can almost do

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a side by side thing. You had a country that

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was devastated during World War One. You had a generation

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of men who felt emasculated, right, that were angry, that

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were you know, maybe absentee in some way. And you've

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got young people looking to belong and looking for a

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leader they're looking for and here comes this fiery guy

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with great rhetoric that spoke right to them, and we're

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gonna do this and we're going to rebuild it. And

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you know, these these people are the problem and they're

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getting in your way. I don't know that, but that mentality, right,

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And it's the same thing. I mean if you talk

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to young gang men, they're just looking to belong and

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be led and be part of a group. And if

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unfortunately we join that group. And so I don't think

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Jordan Peterson is necessarily wrong. But you know, the Nazis

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they made volks.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to compare like no, no, no, no, no. People.

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That's just one example of like, like, okay, all takes

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is like a couple of parents to get Hey, you know,

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I see Gihnn's playing, man, what's going on? And he's

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not out there? Know I say same thing about Joey.

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He's not playing either. You know what we ought to do, right,

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you know, you know, you know who else's kid's not playing.

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You know, there's a story about when Wayne You ever

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see the Wayne Gretzky.

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Speaker 1: No, I did not.

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Speaker 3: It was the first one, and it talked about how

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how the parents like this is Kretzky. We're talking about

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Gretzky like above them, beyond any other hockey player who's

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ever played the game, although Bruins fans would argue it's

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Bobby or whatever, and like parents would be sitting there

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with stopwatches at practice telling the coach Kretzky was out

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there this amount of time. How come my kids only

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out here this amount of time? Right, it's Kratzkey Wade

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freak Gig Gretzky, not Tyler Muir Wade Gretzky. I'm just

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you know, shout out to our friend Kevin. And the

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point is, though, is that, you know, like these parents felt, no, no, no,

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if Gretzky could do, my kid would just do the

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same thing.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 3: You just have to give him more time. He could

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be Wayne Gretzky too. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, parents just don't understand. But you don't have kids,

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so you're not I'm not qualified. You're not qualified.

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Speaker 3: I'm not qualified. By the way, congratulations to Kevin and

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his Dodgers. Oh yeah, Kevin Dodgers. It's the more subtle

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side of Kevin. We don't hear much about the Dodgers

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from Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Kevin is deep in hockey stuff with his son.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Tyler's going pro.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That was really good.

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Speaker 1: He's very good.

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Speaker 3: Sammy like, uh, gonna play hockey two still, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I possibly, but uh, I think

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that Tyler has an opportunity maybe down the line to

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play Division one. Yeah, and uh he is. He's a

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hard worker and he's learning more and more as it

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goes on, and of what it's going to really take.

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Speaker 3: Kevin make him walk home last game. No, he did

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threaten that that one time, and that that seems so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Like Lake, yeah, all right, right, he was so fissed off.

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I think he didn't take him.

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Speaker 3: In his car. I think he had a couple of years. Yeah,

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a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But I think Tyler's learning what it takes to play

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at that elite level. He was on a Canadian team

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and he's like, oh my god, it was so much faster.

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But once he right you to your next level, Rise

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to your next level. You know, let's not argue for

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our limitations. Let's stretch ourselves, tretch ourselves, stretch ourselves and

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make it all happen.

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Speaker 3: Danny, it was a pleasure, that's always Bill. Yeah, I

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love coming on here. I love one of your own.

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It was an interesting one and it always is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I enjoyed it. For Dan Barrillo, for Beth Barillo.

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I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow. And all my friends,

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