Speaker 1: It is the Big Twelve, an sec breakdown time which
produce year with you with the comprehensive look at both
the Big Twelve and the fout Wis docs in each
and every week with our hot cakes and Tom, I'm
gonna go to the University of Texas this week and
maybe I'll be eating my words after the way Red
River plays out. But I gotta tell you, I know
that there's been a lot of finger pointing towards Arch
Manning and there was a ridiculous article this week in
the Athletic.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, from the New York Times saying that he.
Speaker 1: Is the face in college football right now synonymous with failure,
which was so over the top.
Speaker 2: He's played seven games here, let's let's calm the breaks,
and I've won.
Speaker 1: I've been one that's been very fair on Arch. You know,
I never said that he was gonna win the Heisman,
but I did tell people, hey, it's gonna take time.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect him to be this bad though.
Speaker 1: But with that said, where I'm going with my hot
take this week, Tom, I'm pointing to blame at Sark
and I think Tom that Sark has topped out at
Texas Here's what I mean by this. We are seeing
the worst Texas team we've seen in a few years.
I think they're gonna lose to Oklahoma this week and
they'll probably have more losses coming, and they have one
of the easier schedules in the SEC. But you had
the last two seasons teams that were stacked from top
to bottom on offense and defense.
Speaker 2: A good quarterback in quinn Ewers.
Speaker 1: They were really solid on the line of scrimmage, both
on offense and defense of the last two seasons, and
they made it the College Fotball Payoff semi finals the
last two years, didn't win any of those semi final games.
They won a Big twelve title, they got the SEC
championship last year. Tom, I think we have seen the
best of Sark already and I don't think it's going
to get better. Granted, I did pick Texas to go
to the National championship game this year, so you could
say I'm totally backtracked on Sark and all this, but
I think, like it's hard to imagine, Tom, that you
look at this window they've had and they didn't capitalize
now and to think that they're ever going to capitalize
under Sark, I think that if you're a Texas fan,
it's almost like being a James Franklin, you know, Penn
State fan of sorts, where you know you're sitting there
and you're saying yourself, well, with Sark, we're always going
to be good. We're going to be a contender. But
I can't envision them winning a national title right now
anytime soon. Under Sark, I think they can be a
consistent team. They can be a playoff team, but from
what I've seen with the decisions that he's made his
end game coaching, well it was the last two seasons
or the way this year is gone, I can't see
them taking another step up. I think that this is
a good program, and I think they're going to contend
for the College Football Playoff most years, but I cannot
see Texas ever winning a national title with Steve Sarkisian.
I think I think they kind of are who they
are at this point, and I think that that game
against Florida showed that, you know, hey, this is this
is where this program is gonna be under under Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, he does kind of feel like that that
could be. You know, they might have hit the ceiling
a little bit. I'm not ready to give up just yet.
Arch is still young. I think we'll, you know, he'll
be back in Texas next year. They always usually have
good talent at the wide receiver position, always seem to
have a pretty decent tight end. I think, you know,
after having quinn Ewers for you know, several years, that
they kind of had to figure out there. I thought
it would be kind of an easy transition under Arch
and thought it would just come in and be some
m VP right up to the top. And you know,
to be honest, I think a lot of us out
of the Arch was going to be some you know,
crazy Heisman candidate of sortsman because we kind of got
him hyped up like that. So I don't think it's
necessarily Archer's fault, you know, I'd be interested to see
how he plays out the rest of the year and
into next year. But now I think you might be
right on Sark is kind of being the ceiling of
compete for the national or compete for the college ball
playoff every year, but at the end of the end
of the day, your your pen stay South.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's very fitting that each of them got
their second loss this past week and are both outside
the top twenty five after starting the year as a
number one and number two in the polls to begin
twenty twenty five, Tom, where do you want to go
with your hot tech this week?
Speaker 3: Jones? We're going to go to the Land of the Skyline,
Chile this week and to talk about a potential dark
horse for the Big twelve Championship. You got the Cincinnati team.
They've won their non con games. I mean, okay, bowling
Green north West State lost in Nebraska. They did lose
to Nebraska right out of the gate and they lost
by three, But since then they've won on kind of
a little round here. I've liked how they've been playing.
They should have lost to Kansas. That was a majority
on Kansas, but I know that that was a game
for you. But then they go and they beat Iowa State.
They were out without their two best defensive backs. Iowa
State was so still won. They have UCF this week
when I think they're playing them, they have them at Cincinnati.
I think they'll win. Then you go to still Water
and you play Cupcake Oklahoma State, and then from then
on there's only really two games that I'm really worried
about for Cincinnati. I think they will beat I like
them against Utah in Utah. I like them against Arizona.
The two games are the final two games that I
would worry about. B YU would come into Cincinnati and
then the final game of the year, they'd have to
play TCU in Fort Worth. I think there's I think
the Cincinnati team can make a run at this and
in a year with the Big Twelve that we don't
really know what's going on. It's just kind of all
over the place where first maybe we thought Iowa State,
and then we thought k State, and you know, we thought, oh,
Kansas might be in the run. Ah. You know, it's
kind of one of those like Okay, well who's who's who.
I think Cincinnati is maybe that team that steps up
into the into the one of those top two spots. Yeah,
for ail trip to Arlington.
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from Soresby, the quarterback. He's
looked fantastic for them. They played really well this past
week against Iowa State, and they were favored in that game,
and we were seeing ourselves, hey, is the wrong team
potentially favored here? But they were great out of the
Gates and put that game away pretty fast. Iowa State
was without their top two corners and they're gonna be
without those two the rest of the year, but they
capitalized and looked really good. The surprising thing for me,
Tom about that Cincinnati team is the coach Scott Saderfield.
I was not a big fan of hands at Illinois,
and he didn't really do that good of a job
his first couple of years at Cincinnati, and now this
team looks like a well coached, well put together football team.
People were saying that they're this year's Arizona State in
the Big Twelve. It is a surprise to me, and
you know, Swords me, I think we all figured it
was a good quarterback. But to me, the biggest surprise
is coaching more than anything, because I hadn't seen anything
from Sadersfield that said this is a guy that could
coach a you know, Big Twelve championship caliber football team.
And that's a program that everybody was probably the most
excited about of the first four that entered the Big
Twelve with BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston because they had
the College Football Playoff appearance a few years back. They're
under Luke Fickele and with desen Ritter and Kobe Bryant
and Sauce Gardner, a really good football team. And then
Luke Fickle got out the door as fast as he could,
didn't want to make that transition to the Big twelve
goes to Wisconsin, and he's had his struggles there at Wisconsin.
But to me, it's a pleasant surprise to see what
since A is doing. I have no beef, I have
no ill will at all towards Cincinnati outside of beating
my own team.
Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, it was k U's faultmore than anything.
But I like what I've seen from the Bearcats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and the other contenders. I mean, you
got Houston, who has OSU this weekend, and Tech I
think the top four for me, and no specific war
unless we wanted to ring them Tech, Houston, Cincinnati and
then probably maybe BYU Arizona State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're leading me right into where I wanted
to go next with Texas Tech. Another solid showing this
past week for.
Speaker 2: The Red Raiders as they beat that Houston team.
Speaker 1: And but side note, by the way, I am very
upset that they're changing the double T logo.
Speaker 2: I love that logo and they're going all cracker barrel
with it, and it looks terrible what they're doing now
with the new logo starting next year.
Speaker 1: But they got a bye week this week before they
take on Arizona State, and I think that's gonna be
a terrific football game next week.
Speaker 2: But you look at what they are doing. I said
bye week. Sorry, they play Kansas, my own team. I
was looking.
Speaker 1: I was looking too far ahead. They play Kansas this week.
I think they shouldn't win at home against KU. But
last week they beat Houston thirty five to eleven. The
week prior, they go into Utah and beat the Utes
thirty four to ten. It's not just that Texas Tech
is winning tom.
Speaker 2: And it's not just that they're dominating, but they're doing
this on the road as well. That's a sign of
a really.
Speaker 1: Good football team to do what they're doing. Baron Morton's
been fantastic at quarterback. Their defense looks really good. I
know that we finished up the hot takes segment of
a moment ago, but I'll take it a step further top.
Speaker 2: I think Texas Tech's a national title coet tender right now.
Speaker 3: I mean they they might be. And you know, if
they and they have obviously a very good shot to
make obviously the College fall playoff, you can you know,
they let's say they go, they got Kansas at home,
the Arizona State game. That's that'll be a fun game.
And then the other only one I really see that
stands out is maybe BYU going into into Lubbock at
the beginning kind of second week in November. I mean,
is it a stretch to say that Texas Tech might
go undefeated?
Speaker 2: They very well could, They very well could.
Speaker 3: Do you give Texas Tech an undefeated Tech team a
first round by you have to? Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would be a top four seed, no question
about it. And you know, in the non conference they
they played Oregon State. At the time they scheduled it,
they thought that was a power conference opponent, so they
were trying. Can't hold that against them that Oregon State
got kicked to the curb, you know, so you do
what you're doing and winning.
Speaker 2: And dominating fashion on the road. I think they would
have to be a top four seed.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I think should catch people's attention
to Tom is that when Baron Morton went down and
they asked Will Hammond to step up.
Speaker 2: Will Hammond did a really good job too.
Speaker 1: His completion percentage near seventy six percent, four touchdowns close
to four hundred yards. If Morton gets hurt again, they
still could be a promising football team with what they've
shown from Hammond too.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I will say Will Hammond. I did
get him in the transfer portal on the College Football
video game. Yeah for Texas. And I've only lost one
game with Will Hammond so far and I'm in the
conference title. So shout out Will Hammon. He's underrated. But they,
you know, would be really interesting. You want to play
some maybe some futures here. Think about this. Texas Tech
gets a first round by OU, wins their first round
in Norman versus whoever, and then you got an OU
Texas Tech Big twelve rematch. Yeah, maybe in doubt. I
don't know where the game would be, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could play in Dallas Electric Cotton Bowl in
the quarterfinal. Yeah, that's certainly possible. If that were the case,
they'd be awesome. It'd be a great atmosphere for sure.
Speaking of the Sooners, OU taking out Texas this week.
They began as underdogs at two and a half. At
the time of this taping, OU is now favored by
one and a half against Texas, and it seems like
John Matier is on track to play after having surgery
on his hand, and we heard that it could be
three to six weeks. And then we found out that
this doctor that's got the hands of Jesus himself, doctor Schen,
was this magician that brought Matthew Stafford back within two weeks,
and now he's done the same thing with John Mattier
and Tom. I feel pretty good about OU's chances against Texas,
and specifically the reason why I think is this is
a bad matchup for a Texas offensive line that's struggling
Arch Manning who's struggling going up against maybe the best
defense in the country.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be the defense that wins this game.
Speaker 3: Throw you.
Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at where this OU team's at
with this game and going forward from here, I don't
know if John Mattier's healthy. I don't know if he
feels like his normal self. Because Brint Vnibles has kind
of pumped the brakes on that a bit. I think
it is vital for O you to get this run
game going. They might not need a ton of it
to beat Texas in all honesty, but that schedule is
as tough as any team in America. To end the
season here, they got to find a run game one
way or another. I think they'll be fine against Texas,
But as Matiers trying to work through this injury and
get healthy, I think that's the next important thing. If
Oklahoma is going to be a contender, if they're gonna
get through these next few weeks, that that run game's
gonna be figured out.
Speaker 2: I think jay Not needs to be a part of
that equation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, and you know his his
as bad as Texas look against Florida, I don't know
that you necessarily need Materier to win, but I think
you're absolutely right. You're gonna have to get the run
game going. If you're you know, if you're sure, if
if if your aspirations for the season or to just
beat Texas, then trot Mateer out there and see what
he's got. You don't want to injure him further potentially
or you know, have a setback with him. But if
your aspirations are to just beat Texas, you're sure trot
him out there. Your aspirations are to make the college
for a playoff. Then you know, Texas isn't the world
beat it that we thought they were going to be
right out of the gate. It is a robbery game.
Anything can happen. We've seen it, you know it could.
We've seen it happen where one team's favored and then
they walk in there and get their ass whooped. I
don't know what the line is right now. I'm sure
it's probably owe you by what ten?
Speaker 2: Uh? Uh for which game?
Speaker 3: Brett River?
Speaker 2: Oh I just mentioned it. Oh you one and a half?
Speaker 3: Oh really that's very shocking. I might have to drive
to Canny and uh put a unit on Ou. Yeah,
that might be in the works. Actually I might send
you some money to do the same, because that's that's
something that is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's the most important thing for
all you going forward.
Speaker 1: Get that run game going, my tears healthy, make sure
he's one, and then the gauntlet ahead. Here's what OU's
got coming up after Texas, South Carolina, Ole, Miss Tennessee, Bama, Miszoo,
and LSU. So that's one, two, three, four, five six.
If OU is gonna make the College for all playoff.
They might make it as a nine and three team
because they do have the non conference win over Michigan.
Speaker 2: But realistically, Tom, I think you.
Speaker 1: Have to beat for a sure thing spot in the playoff,
you have to beat Texas, and then I think you've
got to go four and two in the final six games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for like a ten and two total record. Yeah, yeah,
I think that's I think that's spot on. And I
think now, you know, I think South Carolina we thought
they were going to be a little bit better than
they are. I don't foreseeing any problems. They're LSU good.
They have to play at Massoo.
Speaker 2: No, Miszoo's at home, but they do have to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bama, I think. I think right now, I think
if you were going to schedule a loss, for sure,
that at Bama probably, and then LSU comes to Norman. Yep,
that's favorable. Mazoo's at Norman, South, at South Carolina, uh yes.
Speaker 2: At South Carolina, and at Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tennessee, that's yeah. We talked about Tennessee earlier in
the season, how they how good they looked against Georgia. Yeah,
that's not that's not easy test. I guess if you're
a oh you fan, you you know, you say one
one week at a time. Yeah, so I would see it, and.
Speaker 1: I hope that you stay healthy in the process too.
It's a long road ahead for that Sooner team. Uh,
even after red River. Let's go through these slate of
games in both the Big Twelve and the SEC this week.
We'll kind of rapid fire, go through these real fast.
Cincinnati take it out of U cee F Cincinnati ten
and a half point favorites.
Speaker 2: Tom.
Speaker 1: We talked about Cincinnati earlier. I think you CEF's improved.
I like what I've seen from Scott Frost's bunch. Uh.
You know, they held their own with KU last week
but ended up losing at home. If Cincinnati is the
team that we've seen the last few weeks, they should
be able to handle.
Speaker 2: Business with UCF.
Speaker 3: I think so. But last time I said Dark Corse
or something about ALP Championship was Case State. I gave
him the kiss of death, So I don't know. I'll
see if the kiss of death works again.
Speaker 1: Houston taking on Oklahoma State Houston four and one, OSU
one and four. I like what I've seen from Connor
Wegman at the quarterback spot for Houston. He's throwing for
six touchdowns two interceptions. OSU does not know what their
quarterback situation is gonna be. That's been a revolving door.
Speaker 2: Tom.
Speaker 1: I think Houston wins, but I think this game is
going to be somewhat close between these two teams. Even
know Houston's favorite. At fourteen and a half, I'd be
surprised if this turned into a runaway. OSU's looked a
little bit better lately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mean their offense struggled against Arizona. Arizona
defense is pretty stout, not gonna lie, unfortunately. I watched
quite a bit of that game. Just I don't know.
I like being punished. Maybe I don't know whoa but
I think Sam, that's a line from your your chat days.
I still have that video of I think it's all
the senity to you. I think you said I'm ready
to be punished unless it was a left hand up.
But now I think Sam Jackson I heard, is going
to be starting a quarterback. Maybe, I don't know, could
be a breadth of fresh air. I don't know. So
many people have hit the transporporter on still Water. I
don't know who the fuck is gonna be out there.
Speaker 1: Iowa stayed taken on Colorado. Iowa State two and a
half point favorites. In that game, Rock Obec He's throwing.
Speaker 2: For nine touchdowns two interceptions so far this year. Colorado.
Speaker 1: I believe they've gone back to Salter at the quarterback position.
Tom Iowa State should win, but their corners need to
grow up fast with losing those two starting corners for
the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how good the rest of the team is.
Speaker 1: If if these opposing teams can attack your secondary, then
then that's gonna make every game complicated.
Speaker 2: They got to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they'll be fine for this game,
but going forward, if they don't figure it out, they're
going to be in a world of hurt.
Speaker 1: TCU taking on k State. TCU won and a half
point favorites going to Manhattan. KSE State sitting at two
and four, coming off a close loss to Baylor. I
think this should be a close game time because what
we've seen from k State. I know that Avery Johnson
is getting a lot of criticism, but KSE State's been
losing these games because their defense is dog shit. Avery
Johnson's actually playing well and putting up numbers. The offense
is scoring a lot of points. I think that you're
talking about a high scoring game. I think Hoover and
TCU get the job done, but don't sleep on the
Cats with their ability to score.
Speaker 3: Hey, Manhattan's no easy place to play either, so and
they come out whether their teams winning or losing. So
I think it'll be a close game.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech taking on KU KU at four and two
Tech at five and oh Tech try to get both eligible,
but they have bigger aspirations. Tech favored by fourteen and
a half in this game, and they're at home. You know,
I like a lot of things about this KU team,
but just being honest, on paper, this is a midst mismatch.
Texas Tech is better than KU and almost every capacity
talent wise, with one of the best rosters money can buy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard to beat. It's hard to
beat the money. So a good luck to you.
Speaker 1: B YU taking out Arizona. Arizona we mentioned coming off
that win against Oklahoma State there four and one, Brennan
had a lot of pressure on him entering this season.
They've started off the year strong BYU at five and zero,
try to get both eligible. Had about a fourteen point
win against West Virginia last week. I like BYU to
keep thinks going. I like what I've seen from bear Bachmeyer.
But uh nofa FIA he can he can sling it.
I mean he's a good quot quarterback here. I would
expect this one.
Speaker 3: To be close. Well, I'll go and I will take Arizona.
I liked what I saw from them defensively. I know
it's not saying a whole lot against the Pissporo a
shoot team, but I was impressed. I don't think I can't.
I don't know ish you didn't get a single offensive touchdown.
They got one lucky pick six and I think that
was the backup quarterback. But FEDA can sling it. This
is going to be a shootout.
Speaker 1: Arizona State taking on Utah. Arizona State ranked twenty first
in the country. Both teams at four and one on
the year. Utah's favored by five and a half. Here, Tom,
you're looking for a bet this week, man, I think
the wrong team's favored, and that's way too many points
for Utah two five and a half. I like Arizona
State down the road. I like what I've seen from
Dan Pierre at the quarterback spot for Utah eleven touchdowns,
three picks, but Arizona State. What's impressed me is their
ability to close out games, whether it was TCU or Baylor.
Got that kicker Jesus Gomez. Jesus continues to save the
Sun Devils. I think we have a close game, but
I know that they lost a close game in Mississippi
State that they shouldn't have lost at the beginning of
the year. But I think they've learned from that, had
a close game. I trust sam LoVa to get it done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. That might have to go on
the bet. The Caney bet slip this weekend.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in the SEC the Southeastern Conference this week, Bama
taking on Miszoo Miszoo five and zero, Bama favored by
two and a half.
Speaker 2: Miszoo's been sneaky good.
Speaker 1: I think they're under ranked at fourteen right now, as
painful as that is for me to say. And Bama
they played better football since that lost Florida State. I
like what I've seen from Ty Simpson, but Tom, I
think this is a tough spot for Bama here.
Speaker 2: I would not be shocked at all if Missoo wins
this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Missoo is sneaky good. I mean I feel like this.
I don't know Miszoo's so good. I don't want to
call it a trap game, but it feels like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, it does. Ole Miss takes out Washington State.
Washington State lost by forty in North Texas, so old
myths should be fine barring UCLA Penn State Part two. Meanwhile,
Owe You in Texas. We talked about it a little
bit earlier in the show Tom. I like the quarterback
matchup too, Matier take it out.
Speaker 3: Arch.
Speaker 1: We've seen all this trash talk between OU and Texas fans,
and I think this is gonna be Mattier's chance, even
though he might not be one hundred percent healthy here
to uh to kind of kind of show up Arch manning.
Speaker 2: A little bit here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, you know, I think it'll be I know
Texas is coming off that sorry ass lost to Florida,
but I think it'll be close. I think I like
owe you by touchdown here. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then we got Tennessee take it Out Arkansas, Sam Pittman
Gon and now the Bobby Petrino era is here. Taylor
Green's the capable quarterback they're going going on the road.
Aguilar still has to cut back on the turnovers. Tennessee
is a good football team. I'd be surprised if if
Arkansas pulled off the upset here. They did it last
year in Fayaneville. But they're gonna need some of that
Bobby Patrino magic, that offense and Taylor Green to really
get going if they're gonna have a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't think they will. I know
what I haven't. I haven't seen a whole lot about
if anybody's left transferred out from Arkansas. I know there
are some players that probably could save a red shirt,
so I wonder if. I wonder if that will affect
them like it had affected Oklahoma State. But I think
Tennessee should have no problem.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M the number five team of the
country taken on Florida. They're five at zero Florida's two
and three. Florida with a nice win for Billy Dapier
to save himself another week might have saved his season.
Speaker 2: At this point, that firing might have to wait till December. Now.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M at five and zero. Marcel Reeves
looked really good. I liked the job that Mike Elko
is doing there. That defense has been pretty stout as well.
I would I'd be surprised if Florida beat the Texas
schools back to back weeks.
Speaker 2: I think A and M should handle business here.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you never know? Uh well? I feel
like A and M always chokes one away. We talked,
and feel like at the beginning of the year that
A and M always finds a way to A and
M and they can never get the job done. Doesn't
matter who's the coach. I wouldn't be surprised necessarily because
this feels like one of the games that A and
M looks back on. It's like we should have lost
that game, but who knows.
Speaker 1: The Deep South's oldest rivalry number ten Georgia taking on
Auburn Georgia at four and one, Auburn at three and two,
and our old friend Jackson Arnold already talk about him
potentially being bitched. I think even though this rivalry game
and George's going on the road, going in a tough atmosphere,
Jordan Hare, I could really see George is sticking it
to Auburn and having a good showing here kind of
like what they did last week gets Kentucky and it
might be time to try a different.
Speaker 2: Option other than Jackson oreld here. I like Georgia and
I like him comfortably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Georgia feels like they're maybe about to get on
a roll. I like Georgia two.
Speaker 1: And then LSU, the number eleven team in the country
taking out South Carolina LSU Ford one, South Carolina three
and two. I've been disappointed in what we've seen from
South Carolina LSU. They're one loss coming to Old Miss.
I would say, if you're an LSU fan, like our
buddy coach Bo, I still think their best football is
in front of them, that we haven't seen the best
version of LSU yet. Maybe that starts this week with
South Carolina at home in Death Valley under the lights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. That they lost the Old Miss
because you can't you can't be on the opposing team
and take a picture with the other team's head coach's daughter.
You can't do that. That's why they lost that game.
But yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Uh, there you have it. That is our big twelve
sec breakdown for this week.