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Speaker 2: Welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host. Mike White
Speaker 2: joined me once again as it is Heather.
Speaker 4: Drain An I for an eye, a hole for a hole, also.
Speaker 2: Joining us once again as mss Jessica Shires.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 2: When you're alone in life is making you lonely? You
Speaker 2: can always go Downtown. Yes, we are wrapping up our
Speaker 2: third month dedicated to requests in twenty twenty four with
Speaker 2: one from Pat Radkey. Downtown, also known as Downtown The
Speaker 2: Naked Dolls of the Underworld. This jess Franco film was
Speaker 2: released in nineteen seventy five seventy six. I'm hearing different
Speaker 2: things and this should not be confused with his nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty four film Downtown heat Go. Written by Christine Lemback.
Speaker 2: The film also stars Franco as a private dick who's
Speaker 2: his sex machine for all the chicks, especially Cynthia, who's
Speaker 2: played by Linda Romey. Also along for the rioter is
Speaker 2: Linda Rome's pubic area, which is on display for at
Speaker 2: least a quarter of the film. And no, I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2: We will be spoiling the pl lot what there is
Speaker 2: of it as we go along. So if you don't
Speaker 2: want anything we ruin, better turn off this podcast and
Speaker 2: come back after you've seen the movie. You will not
Speaker 2: be sorry. So, Jessica, when was the first time you
Speaker 2: saw Downtown and what did you think?
Speaker 7: Although I am a huge Just Franco fan. I actually
Speaker 7: did not watch this one until you asked me to
Speaker 7: be on this episode. I'd had the German Blu Ray
Speaker 7: for a while, but it just I'd never gotten around
Speaker 7: to and mostly because if I'm honest, I was a
Speaker 7: little bit prejudiced because I knew it was one of
Speaker 7: his more comedic films and I'm more into the darker,
Speaker 7: horror oriented stuff. But so I was excited to get
Speaker 7: a chance to like deep dive into this one and
Speaker 7: really give it a fair watch.
Speaker 2: And Heather, how about yourself?
Speaker 4: Kind of similar story, except I don't have that German
Speaker 4: Blu ray which I saw. I saw that release online
Speaker 4: that looks amazing. But I love, like we all do,
Speaker 4: I love Jess Franco, and I thought, oh, this is
Speaker 4: a great opportunity for me to see this film of
Speaker 4: his that I'm not super familiar with really ran that
Speaker 4: much about it. I've just vaguely heard of it, And
Speaker 4: this did not disappoint. This was definitely the first of
Speaker 4: his comedies I have seen. And now one could say
Speaker 4: that it is probably putting eighty pounds of labia and
Speaker 4: a twenty pound bag. I don't think that's a bad
Speaker 4: thing just makes it work. Jes Franco, to me, is
Speaker 4: a true magician because he can make cinematic stories that
Speaker 4: are like anybody else's that it can enchant you. And
Speaker 4: he also just has a way of just creating his
Speaker 4: own worlds. Every syll. Even some of his real lesser works,
Speaker 4: there's still something. There's still like some miasma, and this
Speaker 4: one definitely has it.
Speaker 2: I've been sold a bill of goods. We've talked about
Speaker 2: these Just Franco movies. Now this is at least the
Speaker 2: second or third one, and I'm like, Wow, why did
Speaker 2: I have this bad impression of Jess Franco. Why did
Speaker 2: I think he was just some sort of schlockmeister. Now
Speaker 2: this is not a schlocky film. I really like the
Speaker 2: film noir aspects of it. I like the how many
Speaker 2: bits of it. But my god, it's just those shots.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wish I was watching this with an audience,
Speaker 2: because I think we would have a great time watching
Speaker 2: this all together. And just every time this roommate comes
Speaker 2: on screen, it's just oh, here's your face. So there's
Speaker 2: a bush, and then then it stays on it for
Speaker 2: so long. I'm like, wow, I was laughing in my
Speaker 2: living room. My wife was laughing a little bit, but
Speaker 2: I can imagine we would be an uproarious laughter if
Speaker 2: we all saw this together in a movie theater.
Speaker 7: Yeah, in this film, it really gives you a taste
Speaker 7: of what Jess Franco is notorious for because you get
Speaker 7: the zooms and lady bits in full display.
Speaker 4: It's all there.
Speaker 7: I think if you want to know, was with the zooms,
Speaker 7: and I just it's here.
Speaker 4: It's here. This movie to me makes me think of
Speaker 4: it's one part of those seventies like cholpy action like
Speaker 4: men's novels that were real sleazy, like the Man from
Speaker 4: O rg Y like and stuff like that. But then
Speaker 4: it's also somebody's done mushrooms a little bit, because there's
Speaker 4: just even from the get go, we have this great
Speaker 4: over the top narration and this is Purple Pros the
Speaker 4: dialogue and I love it. I love Purple Pros. Oh
Speaker 4: my gosh. There was so much fun. This is like
Speaker 4: writing with somebody having fun with it, which is fantastic.
Speaker 4: And you've got these details of this is a Mediterranean
Speaker 4: port where the crayfish or crawfish is served fresh. And
Speaker 4: we find out that our detective character our lad character
Speaker 4: was raised by what he says whores and San Juan
Speaker 4: and and already I'm like, I don't even know who
Speaker 4: is playing the detective at that point. I'm just down.
Speaker 4: I'm immediately down. The cinematography's really beautiful. This is like
Speaker 4: really good looking movie, especially for you know, obviously I
Speaker 4: think there was clearly limited budget, but it looks beautiful.
Speaker 4: The landscapes are are great. Lena her face is so
Speaker 4: radiant and this she is just and I think she's enchanting. Anyways.
Speaker 4: I love Lena Romete. You really just she's just got
Speaker 4: that sparkle, which is why it's distracted. You're like, man,
Speaker 4: her face is so pretty. Oh oh they're okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: that looks nice too. Those and I but I love that.
Speaker 4: It made me realize Russmeier is a breast man. Tinto
Speaker 4: Brass is a booty man. Jess Franco's a bush man.
Speaker 4: He loves the labes. He is a labies man. You
Speaker 4: can say I hate myself for say that, but but
Speaker 4: it's just part of the landscape. I think any either
Speaker 4: director had this much cross shortage with it not being porno,
Speaker 4: it would just be like, okay, dude, we get it. Ye,
Speaker 4: Franco makes it work. He really wears to obsessions, shall
Speaker 4: I say on his sleeve in this one. I think
Speaker 4: it's Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say about Lena. I think this
Speaker 7: is not only the most beautiful I think she looks
Speaker 7: throughout just Franco's entire canon. I know a lot of
Speaker 7: people are fans of her in Female Vampire, which is
Speaker 7: a great one, and she was just a beautiful woman,
Speaker 7: especially like that was like I think the mid seventies
Speaker 7: was like the peak of her beauty. But I think
Speaker 7: the combination of her comedic chops and her sort of
Speaker 7: dumbfit tallness and just her absolute gorgeousness. I just think
Speaker 7: she's hotly radiant in this film.
Speaker 2: Now, I am a little hesitant to talk too openly,
Speaker 2: just because Heather and I we've known each other for
Speaker 2: over twenty years.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 2: Anything in everything, like nothing is off the table. Jessica,
Speaker 2: I just hope that I do not offend you in
Speaker 2: this conversation, because yeah, this is so much just talk
Speaker 2: about pubic care.
Speaker 4: And I'm just Franco fan, so it's okay.
Speaker 2: I'm not your first walk in the park.
Speaker 4: She's been friends with me for years.
Speaker 2: Hair so she's tainted.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, take here. Yes, I narrowed her to my
Speaker 4: web degenerously like I do all of my friends. But
Speaker 4: I like to think I'm much like Lena Remain in
Speaker 4: this movie, minus the bear breasted singing and oh my god,
Speaker 4: can we get to that song? Actually I love her.
Speaker 4: She has one song, She's what song? And half of
Speaker 4: it's like are good.
Speaker 7: And I'm sort of indecipherable English lyrics some of them
Speaker 7: can pick up on some of it and not everything.
Speaker 7: I'll just say that. The fact that we start off
Speaker 7: this film with a nightclub scene, like right off the bat,
Speaker 7: you're getting like Jess Franco, but almost all of his
Speaker 7: films he has some sort of element that is nightclub
Speaker 7: asque or could be interpreted as nightclub or some kind
Speaker 7: of performance. There's a lot of things in this film
Speaker 7: that are like very like classic Franco and Nash the
Speaker 7: Zooms and the Bush, but things like the nightclub scene.
Speaker 7: It's like you almost can't have a just Franco movie
Speaker 7: without having that kind of scene pretty much right up
Speaker 7: front and center.
Speaker 2: And when we talked about Virgin among the Living Dead,
Speaker 2: the whole thing of starting with the outside and that
Speaker 2: pan around and then the music, and I love the
Speaker 2: music in these movies. Some of it is just absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's a great song that starts off this whole movie
Speaker 2: as well. And I have to say I struggled a
Speaker 2: lot with the subtitles. I don't know what was going
Speaker 2: on with my file, but I was just having a
Speaker 2: hard time getting into all sync. But it actually added
Speaker 2: a little bit of weirdness to it because it was
Speaker 2: just so it's like, who's talking right now? And so
Speaker 2: much of it is that voiceover, So that helped as
Speaker 2: well with just tying everything together. I was just here
Speaker 2: the German which also threw me off that it was
Speaker 2: my version. I don't know if your guys as was
Speaker 2: as well, but all dubbed in German. But then it's
Speaker 2: set in Puerto Rico. But then he's talking about the Mediterraneans.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, where are we? What is happening in
Speaker 2: my world right now? And then even the first shout
Speaker 2: of ver May, it looks like she's getting fucked, but
Speaker 2: then we pull back and you're like, oh no, she's
Speaker 2: just performing on this bear skin rug in a club
Speaker 2: with this outfit that reveals her breasts and she's as
Speaker 2: soon going to be just revealing everything else as well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there are times where she's performing in this
Speaker 2: club and she's just wearing like lingerie, fully exposed everything,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what kind of nightclub is this? And
Speaker 2: where can I go to find this?
Speaker 4: She did that a lot in Branco movies.
Speaker 7: I'll sad a little bit about this movie later because
Speaker 7: it has an interesting parallels. But the movie that not
Speaker 7: immediately preceded this, but preceded this one by a few
Speaker 7: films as a movie called Exorcism, which is definitely an
Speaker 7: out and out horror movie. Again, here's some pretty cult
Speaker 7: satanic nightclub scenes that you just want to be there.
Speaker 7: You just want to know where it is. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I want to go to that nightclub.
Speaker 2: Well, and then the central plot to this, not to
Speaker 2: talk too much about the plot, but the central plot
Speaker 2: of this whole thing her hiring Franco as this private detective. Hey,
Speaker 2: I want you to go take some photographs with my
Speaker 2: husband for me, And then later on the husband dies,
Speaker 2: he still has all these photos. He's, oh, no, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be the suspect for killing this guy. Eventually
Speaker 2: they go and take him to meet the woman that
Speaker 2: hired him, but it's actually not that woman, it's another woman.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, we're doing Chinatown. This is perfect, This
Speaker 2: is right in that perfect spot of let's do Chinatown.
Speaker 2: This is the whole Evelyn Mulray. Why my Diane Ladd
Speaker 2: was the one that hired him? And then you find
Speaker 2: out no, the real missus Mulray is Fate Dunaway, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is great, this is going to be fantastic. We're
Speaker 2: like swapping genders of Chinatown. But then I don't think
Speaker 2: that woman ever comes back again.
Speaker 7: And this really speaks to a streak of hard boiled
Speaker 7: detective fiction and a new pulp fiction that runs through
Speaker 7: Franco's career all the way up to his very last film.
Speaker 7: And I can talk a little bit about this character
Speaker 7: that he's playing in this film, al Perira. So this
Speaker 7: is a stock Just Franco character. The first time this
Speaker 7: like the third film, I think that we have a
Speaker 7: character with this name. And Just Franco repeats names a
Speaker 7: lot throughout his films. He does it not only with
Speaker 7: al Perreira, but there's several characters in this film that
Speaker 7: channeled names from many other Just Franco movies.
Speaker 4: That came before it and would come after it.
Speaker 7: So al Perreira is like this helpless detective. He's very
Speaker 7: much as you see him in this movie. Eddie Constantine
Speaker 7: was funnily enough the first person to play this character
Speaker 7: in Just Franco's one of Just Fringo sixties films forgetting
Speaker 7: the name, and then Howard Vernon played him in a
Speaker 7: movie that just predated this one by a couple of years.
Speaker 7: And then we have Just Franco decided to cast himself,
Speaker 7: which I think is another thing you can talk about,
Speaker 7: is Just Franco's casting of himself in film For just
Speaker 7: a Guess Something. We talked a little bit about the
Speaker 7: Virgin among the Living Dead episode. But yeah, so this
Speaker 7: character would recur throughout his filmography, and his very last
Speaker 7: film before he died was I think it was something
Speaker 7: like al Pereira versus The Alligator Lady or something like that.
Speaker 7: So I think there's something to be said there.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I just got the more I hear about
Speaker 4: Jazz and Layer and the more I just love him.
Speaker 4: That's I It's so funny because I haven't seen the
Speaker 4: previous Alperera films, but going in this film, before you
Speaker 4: see him. I kept thinking, is it gonna be I
Speaker 4: knew Howard Vernon, wasn't it Basley? Is it gonna be
Speaker 4: Howard Vernon type? And then all of a sudden, I'm
Speaker 4: l no, and I'm like, oh my god, it's Jes
Speaker 4: which is wonderful. We love him, but it with like
Speaker 4: such a juxtaposition, and I love that he just seems
Speaker 4: to lenk into it. It's like, yeah, I'm a short
Speaker 4: I have a short, middle aged guy with this awkward,
Speaker 4: pale body that I'm just gonna inflict on and a
Speaker 4: lot of it. Be proud of your body. There's no
Speaker 4: body shaven here.
Speaker 7: I just want to say, I think Jess is the
Speaker 7: only person to be seen wearing underwear anywhere in this film.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. This film hans for me, probably one
Speaker 4: of the most difficult to watch threesomes I have seen
Speaker 4: in film get straight in a very long time. But
Speaker 4: it's so funny because Lena and her friend Lola are
Speaker 4: full Starkers complete just lips a blazon, and he's dressed
Speaker 4: like a used car salesman.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: I've seen plenty of sixties exploitation where the guys are
Speaker 4: dressed like fred Garvin mil prostitute where they got the
Speaker 4: knee socks and the boxers when the girls are pretty
Speaker 4: much naked. This took that one step further, which was
Speaker 4: a fascinating choice. It went on the way too. I
Speaker 4: don't know. It's like when you love certain of tours,
Speaker 4: it's almost after a while seeing like a family member
Speaker 4: or something where you were like, imagine watching a William
Speaker 4: freaka Baby We're reallyam freakins in it, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I love Liam Freakin and he's really good in it.
Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, this is great, and he's feeling a
Speaker 4: little sensual and you're like, whatnly, this is weird. I'm
Speaker 4: totally gonna get haunted by him. I think he's said
Speaker 4: was he haunting the guy that made the Exertion sequel?
Speaker 7: Anyways, I just watched Play Misty for Me for the
Speaker 7: first time last night, and Clint Eastwood in that full
Speaker 7: minute long cheesy seventies sex scene, so I was just, oh,
Speaker 7: my god, what is happening right until like the first
Speaker 7: time ROBERTA. Flack is playing in the background. I'm just like,
Speaker 7: what inn hell is happening right now? I think you
Speaker 7: have a whole discussion on when directors cast themselves in
Speaker 7: films like what they do with it. And I think,
Speaker 7: like Jess, Franco here is really telling you a lot
Speaker 7: by kind of just the fact that he's like this
Speaker 7: sort of self misfacing, dorky guy. What's really funny. I
Speaker 7: think about what he does with this character is like
Speaker 7: the character is constantly saying things about how he doesn't
Speaker 7: like having to take pictures of women having sex, or
Speaker 7: he doesn't like spying on people, whereas in fact, just
Speaker 7: Franco was a huge voyeur who spent the better part
Speaker 7: of forty years filming naked people. Well, and that just
Speaker 7: goes back actually to a lot of the dialogue. There's
Speaker 7: a lot of funny in jokes here, especially you know
Speaker 7: a lot about Franco, you can pick up on them
Speaker 7: and things like that I'm no voyeur or something like that.
Speaker 7: He was like the biggest voyeur imaginable.
Speaker 4: That was his thing.
Speaker 7: And some of the banter between him and Lena reveals
Speaker 7: some of that too, and also as funny as you
Speaker 7: can see in that dialogue, their relationship was budding at
Speaker 7: this point, like she was still married to I think
Speaker 7: it's his name is Ramon ar Did who plays Pepe,
Speaker 7: who's like the assistant, so that was Lina's husband at
Speaker 7: the time, but yet at the same time she was
Speaker 7: also like sort of this rising star and developing this
Speaker 7: relationship with Franco that would you know, ultimately be personal
Speaker 7: as well as professional. So there's a lot in the dialogue.
Speaker 7: And also I just want to say that this is
Speaker 7: a really heavy dialogue film for Jess Franco film. His
Speaker 7: movies are often very sparse with the dialogue, and this
Speaker 7: is if it's not a sex scene, it's people talking
Speaker 7: the lot, which is interesting. I'm not that familiar with
Speaker 7: Christine Lembach, who's credited as writing the dialogue on this,
Speaker 7: but number one, it's interesting that it's a woman, and
Speaker 7: number two, it's interesting that Jess came up with the
Speaker 7: story and then plussibly this Lembach fleshed out the dialogue,
Speaker 7: whether or not it was because she was a German speaker,
Speaker 7: and because this is a Swiss German production, they needed
Speaker 7: a German speaker to translate literally everything into German. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think I actually I had to watch this twice
Speaker 7: because there was so much in the dialogue. I felt
Speaker 7: like I had to catch everything. And then also as
Speaker 7: you were pointing out earlier, like the subtitles are and
Speaker 7: can confirm on the Blu rays pretty bad as and
Speaker 7: mismatched and incomplete as well the subtitles. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 7: missing some whole sort of brief sections that are no subtitles,
Speaker 7: subtitles that are misspelled and don't make sense and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. So there is some improvement to be done
Speaker 7: there for sure, especially because the dialogue is so tight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like at one point late Rita, who's
Speaker 4: Pereira's girl like friend who's a girl but also girlfriends
Speaker 4: like the closest we get a pure love interest and
Speaker 4: at one point she calls them Deeter and I don't know,
Speaker 4: definitely not a clue, no clue about that one.
Speaker 7: Again, it's I think there must be an en joke
Speaker 7: there that maybe we're not privy to or were Maybe
Speaker 7: I don't get but I noticed that as well, but
Speaker 7: didn't understand its meaning.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad though, that you guys brought up the
Speaker 4: music for me, And of course I'm such a sawt
Speaker 4: music and film and writing or my three just three
Speaker 4: headed hydra of love if my heart and Jess Franco
Speaker 4: just his use of music in general is just always
Speaker 4: so glorious to me. And this I loved the soundtrack
Speaker 4: for this even and even the fact that her song.
Speaker 4: I was so fascinated by her song because it's like
Speaker 4: it's mostly muling, but she's just like, oh like that,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, they'll be like, I
Speaker 4: want We'll make I sound like, be like, I'm not
Speaker 4: a bad by organ personation. I can't honor this. But
Speaker 4: and then but then I think she's saying keep cool.
Speaker 4: It's it, keep keep cool, and it's but she sells it.
Speaker 4: It's got this great kind of jazzy and I just
Speaker 4: I love it. And I love like this like Nightclub
Speaker 4: World because it's bananas, because the dancers all do seem
Speaker 4: to be a bit edgier than your typical sort of
Speaker 4: burlesque or strip teas. Because we get another dancer named
Speaker 4: Sexy Rexy, who that name alone, she's that sounds like
Speaker 4: a doctor hook medicine show song or something that's sexy rexy,
Speaker 4: and she's like doing this dance at the Red Candle,
Speaker 4: and I feel like it cuts away right before stuff
Speaker 4: gets really hard and did everybody's oh wonderful when my
Speaker 4: favorite is one girl and she doesn't sound sarcastic. At
Speaker 4: the end of Lena Rome's act, says, Oh she's so
Speaker 4: classy or classy. Yeah it is if you say so. Sure, sure,
Speaker 4: I'm the bike. Yeah, the human body should be celebrated.
Speaker 7: I just I was.
Speaker 4: It's just fascinating to me because I'm like, this is
Speaker 4: not and I genuinely love this. I love it when
Speaker 4: a film can take place but just enough reality where
Speaker 4: we've got okay, we've got the mob, and we have
Speaker 4: people conniving for more money and power and lust. Okay,
Speaker 4: these are all very human elements. It's very real, true
Speaker 4: to life, but it's done in this way where it
Speaker 4: might as well be science, like the universe it's in
Speaker 4: and I love that. I generally think it's such a
Speaker 4: compelling mix that is created, especially in this film, and
Speaker 4: it just especially the way, just like the camera just
Speaker 4: gets lost and we're talking, you can't escape it. If oh,
Speaker 4: you guys are being juvenile, especially that girl Heather, that
Speaker 4: philistine over there, if you have seen this movie, we're
Speaker 4: not exaggerating, Mike. You and I on this very show
Speaker 4: up talked about explicit sex films that had less kindacological
Speaker 4: looks and that's bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it used to be the joke for my
Speaker 2: friends and I where it was, oh, do you need
Speaker 2: to take a break from this porno film? Okay, well
Speaker 2: just put on a lesbian scene and then go to
Speaker 2: the store and then go shopping, and then go to
Speaker 2: the bank and then come back and it might be
Speaker 2: over by that time. It felt very similar to me
Speaker 2: with this one, where it's just like, okay, we're in
Speaker 2: the lesbian and seene, Oh, we might as well just
Speaker 2: take a break here. I'm gonna hit the restroom, maybe
Speaker 2: make a sandwich or something, because it just goes on forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The second time I watched this, I was just okay,
Speaker 7: I don't need to watch this. Used to pay more
Speaker 7: attention to the dialogic than anything else this total.
Speaker 2: It's a shame too, because I really like the actual
Speaker 2: detective story that's going on, and detective story mixed with sex. Hey,
Speaker 2: that's great. I love that idea. But yeah, just the
Speaker 2: balance wasn't there. And we should also say Franco's making
Speaker 2: what I think it was at least six movies this year,
Speaker 2: if not more so. It's just like, well, of course,
Speaker 2: not everything gets the love and attention of other things.
Speaker 2: But going back to what you were saying before, Heather,
Speaker 2: this film looks absolutely gorgeous. Everything looks so good. The
Speaker 2: colors are popping, everything looks great. I imagine this had
Speaker 2: been restored at some point and it just looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: And I just love the look of it. I actually
Speaker 2: really liked the story. I love him as this kind
Speaker 2: of schlubby detective that's really not that good of a detective.
Speaker 2: I like detectives like that where they do know their
Speaker 2: foibles and they're just like, maybe I'm not the greatest
Speaker 2: detective in the world, but I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: get this case done. And he gets set up by Lena,
Speaker 2: and if not for the good graces of the inspector
Speaker 2: the Paul Mueller character, he would just go to jail.
Speaker 2: But instead, Mueller at the end it's like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a chance to get revenge
Speaker 2: on this person.
Speaker 4: I loved. I thought that was wonderful.
Speaker 7: Oh god, I think I had to stop with one
Speaker 7: go is he really just gonna let him go and say,
Speaker 7: you know what, just go get her?
Speaker 4: You know, sorry, we let him? Oh my god, what
Speaker 4: if many decisions made this film where you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: what questionable shit? Where along for the ride? No, I
Speaker 4: love this and Freako was having so much about like
Speaker 4: that shot where it cuts to him in the back singing,
Speaker 4: it's just I literally loved it aloud, like he is
Speaker 4: so funny here, and I love the fact that he's
Speaker 4: not trying to because I think when people think of
Speaker 4: a director casting themselves as a heroic lead with the
Speaker 4: prey lady there most of the time, ninety times the time,
Speaker 4: that's not going to be a good performance. And it's
Speaker 4: also going to be played completely straight, like we're supposed
Speaker 4: to believe that the director guy has all of the
Speaker 4: sax appeal of Franco Niro and John Saxon combined, but
Speaker 4: they actually look like morally safer. Just Franco, I love,
Speaker 4: we all love jonangar it just Rinko just doesn't. You're right,
Speaker 4: and I love the fact you point it out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: his character isn't the greatest detective, is very aware of
Speaker 4: his humanity, is very prone to being like that sweet
Speaker 4: little bitch, and this recurring thing about the circular holes,
Speaker 4: like a bullet is a circular hole. But then he's
Speaker 4: imprisoned by that sweet circular hole and it made my it. Honestly,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm like, I've never thought of a China as
Speaker 4: a pure, a perfect circle.
Speaker 2: That's not been my experience. But maybe I'm just going
Speaker 2: out with the wrong people.
Speaker 4: Okay, the lady is with perfect symmetry in that and
Speaker 4: their orifices. I don't know where I'd go with that,
Speaker 4: but I will say I loved Rita. I thought she
Speaker 4: was like a cool character ell of the fact that
Speaker 4: she gives him shit too, like where he actually proposes
Speaker 4: to her and she's I may be stupid, but I'm
Speaker 4: not great. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And this, here's another character parallel from at least one
Speaker 7: other film that I can think of, is and it
Speaker 7: is what he'd covered on the show before, Mike is
Speaker 7: Venus and Furs, where you have Rita as the long
Speaker 7: suffering girlfriend who wearily tolerates the cheating of her man,
Speaker 7: but he always comes back to her because Rita is
Speaker 7: that strong base that he can come back to. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so that's another parallel. Is that type of character with
Speaker 7: that name?
Speaker 4: Well, I like that.
Speaker 2: You get that whole metaphor for directing as well. When
Speaker 2: franco inexplicedly decides that he's going to join up with
Speaker 2: Cynthia and help her blackmail this guy and take all
Speaker 2: of these blackmail photos from the looking through side of
Speaker 2: the one way mirror, and he's there directing them and
Speaker 2: talking to them pretty much yelling at them from the
Speaker 2: other side of the mirror. And now the guy who's
Speaker 2: drunk or high or stoned or whatever they did to him,
Speaker 2: but he's just like whoa. The mirror talked whoa. And
Speaker 2: then it's just Franco like the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 4: Oh, you don't handle a cock like that, don't do that.
Speaker 7: It's so meta event seeing it's absolutely him being very
Speaker 7: aware of the fact that this is like a metaphor
Speaker 7: for him as a director and hilariously, oh go.
Speaker 4: And the funniest thing to me about that was right
Speaker 4: before he starts talking through it, I kept being like,
Speaker 4: camera noise is so loud. I was seeing that when
Speaker 4: we first see him getting the evidence against who we
Speaker 4: think is Cynthia's has been Chris. We find out things
Speaker 4: are not to say seem but and I love the
Speaker 4: use of actually the mirror in that because at first
Speaker 4: you keep thinking are we ever going to see them?
Speaker 2: And it is nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a nice slow build and then just
Speaker 4: him just that simple sort of twist of the mirror
Speaker 4: and all is revealed. I love that. I love for
Speaker 4: that kind of thing, when a drid can do that. Anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've actually been.
Speaker 7: This is a theme that I've picked up on in
Speaker 7: watching Franco's and every time I watched another Franco for
Speaker 7: the first time or for the tenth time or whenever,
Speaker 7: I always make notes on when I see mirrors because
Speaker 7: they pop up like in so many films, Like I think,
Speaker 7: once you start looking for them, you see them everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so you have that scene when he is trying to
Speaker 7: take the illicit pictures of the sky having an affair,
Speaker 7: and then you see that scene with how it's reflected
Speaker 7: in the mirror.
Speaker 4: It seems like it's so deliberate.
Speaker 7: And then again towards the end, we have that double
Speaker 7: sided mirror with the mirrors and Jess Franco films, I
Speaker 7: think are something I always like to examine closely.
Speaker 4: Okay, what does he do in with the mirror?
Speaker 7: And this fell purpose isn't serving because I think it
Speaker 7: does different things in various of his films, but you
Speaker 7: see them quite a lot once you start to notice them.
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. I feel the same way about Radley Metzker.
Speaker 4: On a side note, I always find it fascinating with
Speaker 4: certain directors how we approach mirrors, like because only certain
Speaker 4: watchers really have that motif pop up again. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I kept thinking they're going to hear him that camera.
Speaker 4: This is an old school hemera and light. It is
Speaker 4: so loud. And then second time, I'm like, oh, surely
Speaker 4: to god, that guy's gonna hear him clicking find that mirror.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, he's just yelling at him,
Speaker 4: you fool, or that thing. And this poor guy I
Speaker 4: had so many questions. I'm like, why are they trying
Speaker 4: to blackmail? Okay, his dad's a pastor, but then he
Speaker 4: gets killed and I'm like, wait, this poor guy is awkward.
Speaker 4: Tidy whities, they're the most awkward, unsexy underwear shuffling, and
Speaker 4: it's not a bad looking guy. You're like, he's all
Speaker 4: right then, but then he starts walking, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: And it's totally like if you were like at a
Speaker 4: sleepover at a friend's house and their dad walks out
Speaker 4: to grab the thing from the fridge and he's in
Speaker 4: his underwear and it's that it's like dad underwear walk.
Speaker 4: It is not sex speaking of about sexy while we're
Speaker 4: talking about families, I have a line of dialogue I
Speaker 4: specifically wrote on a note card so I would not
Speaker 4: forget it, And this is perhaps one of the most
Speaker 4: unsexy sexy sentences I've heard of. Luck time, Come on, sweetie,
Speaker 4: where's your fat uncle dick?
Speaker 2: Oh geez, forgot that.
Speaker 4: If you hear a weird husky now sound, that might
Speaker 4: be my overy shriveling to nothing say that line.
Speaker 7: But I would actually love to see this re translated
Speaker 7: with better subtitles. Youdn tell they're pretty terrible. I have
Speaker 7: a feeling a lot of this really uncomfortable awkward to
Speaker 7: us as English speakers. Dialogue comes across a lot because
Speaker 7: it's just badly translated. And I guess i'll I'll take
Speaker 7: a second to talk about.
Speaker 4: Like why this movie is in German and like a
Speaker 4: little bit about the production plays. Yeah, this is fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Heather said, there's not a lot of stuff written
Speaker 2: about this. Scour through all of these different Franco books
Speaker 2: and I came up with what three articles or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so this film, the reason why it's in German
Speaker 7: is because during this time, just Forco just started to
Speaker 7: work with this Swiss producer named Erwin Dietrich, who he'd
Speaker 7: made like seventeen films with him, and some of them
Speaker 7: are absolutely some of his best films, not this one maybe,
Speaker 7: but he did some great work with Dietrich, and this
Speaker 7: list came on the early end of this So basically
Speaker 7: Dietrich funded all these productions, obviously not with tons of money,
Speaker 7: but probably a little bit more money than Franco was
Speaker 7: used to working with. And Dietrich had a studio, so
Speaker 7: he had access to a lot of locations and things
Speaker 7: that he didn't have previously, which is why the cast
Speaker 7: sort of changes around this time, like the sort of
Speaker 7: Franco regulars that you see kind of change. We see
Speaker 7: people like Martine stead Deal this was her first film
Speaker 7: with him, or maybe maybe her first one, one of
Speaker 7: our first one to ten. Again, this is very hard
Speaker 7: to pin down what came first the chronology of these
Speaker 7: as you were talking about earlier at the beginning of
Speaker 7: the episode of Mikel was this seventy five or seventy six.
Speaker 7: I could track down that it was shot in like
Speaker 7: late summer of seventy five, but the thing is, and
Speaker 7: we talk about this a lot when you discussed Franco
Speaker 7: is the fact that he was throughout his whole career,
Speaker 7: not just when he was working with d Trich. He
Speaker 7: would have someone pay him, give him funds and resources
Speaker 7: to make film, and he would do that on the
Speaker 7: super cheap and end up being able to scrape a
Speaker 7: little bit aside, so he could make a different film,
Speaker 7: usually with the same cast, usually with the same set.
Speaker 7: So that's why you sometimes see these films that look
Speaker 7: really similar, for instance, the cast and even the costumes
Speaker 7: in this.
Speaker 4: As someone who's watched a lot of the films.
Speaker 7: From this period, I'm like, oh, that drops us from
Speaker 7: Women behind Bars, that outfit is from this, or this
Speaker 7: shot was shot in the same or this location is
Speaker 7: the same as it was in Doriana Gray or something
Speaker 7: like that. Like they were all shot so much around
Speaker 7: the same time. He was shooting multiple films at the
Speaker 7: same time. Okay, I'll do a scene for this other
Speaker 7: project that I'm working on. So the timeline for these
Speaker 7: is incredibly complex and hard to unravel, but it is
Speaker 7: interesting to see that from the beginning. Brank Who It's
Speaker 7: a long career, even though you can go through his
Speaker 7: filmography and see the themes that run throughout the entire
Speaker 7: course of his career. You can carve it up by
Speaker 7: eras during which he worked with different producers, when he
Speaker 7: was working with Dietrich or previously when he was working
Speaker 7: with Harrio and Towers, when he was working with various
Speaker 7: production companies.
Speaker 4: It's an interesting way to divide up his long career.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, long story short, that's what this film was
Speaker 7: in German. I don't think there is an English version
Speaker 7: that exists of this, so this is all we got. Clearly,
Speaker 7: the cast was completely international, Spanish, French, Swiss, like all
Speaker 7: over the place, and probably people are speaking their native
Speaker 7: languages during the shoot, but it all ended up being
Speaker 7: dubbed into German.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those shots of the bay that opened
Speaker 2: this up and things, or maybe it's towards middle towards
Speaker 2: the end, I think too. I'm just like, oh, these
Speaker 2: are probably stock shots that he shot and have been
Speaker 2: used in other things. And that's also adds to the
Speaker 2: whole ear reality of where the hell am I am
Speaker 2: I in Puerto Rico? Am I in Germany? And to
Speaker 2: have of course, I've watched a lot of movies where
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of French soldiers, but they're speaking Spanish
Speaker 2: because this was a Spanish film, so I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: But to have all of these people in this exotic
Speaker 2: island location and they're all speaking German, I was just like,
Speaker 2: this just doesn't add up to me. And just to
Speaker 2: see the dubbing and everything, I was just like, this
Speaker 2: is really strange. But it also just makes it feel
Speaker 2: odd and off, which I usually really like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for what it's worth, this was shot and I
Speaker 7: think it's called Bolius or Mayer, which is around Nice,
Speaker 7: and some of it was shot in Nice as well,
Speaker 7: and I think those casino shots with the I watched
Speaker 7: it the second time with thinking about, Okay, why is
Speaker 7: this movie called downtown because it doesn't feel very bustling
Speaker 7: with a lot of remote apartments and villas and stuff.
Speaker 7: But you go back and okay, yes, the nightclub scene
Speaker 7: is clearly in an underworldy kind of downtown, gritty, grimy thing.
Speaker 7: We see these exterior shots of casinos, a palm trees,
Speaker 7: and at least get the hint that this isn't some
Speaker 7: kind of criminal underworld, which the German title kind of suggests.
Speaker 4: I love the favorite best film. It's called that because
Speaker 4: it does make you think, because there's all that great nature,
Speaker 4: which Frank goes so great about Havings I think about
Speaker 4: you mentioned Venus and Firds, which is one of my
Speaker 4: favorites of his, like top oh, I love it filed
Speaker 4: and just the shot at the beach, yeah, and just
Speaker 4: the body washed on the shore. But I also feelate
Speaker 4: with Perreira. He's he is kind of downtown. He is
Speaker 4: the downtown because he's not going to change his flawed humanity.
Speaker 4: He's just owning it. He's at the bar getting loaded. Oh.
Speaker 4: The girl tries to be like, I want to screw you,
Speaker 4: and he's, oh, I only go for singers. And then
Speaker 4: I love it when read us like singing in the
Speaker 4: bathtub and he's just like like carpet adder. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: just the inter place was so cute. I love they.
Speaker 4: I definitely I do wonder too about some of the translation.
Speaker 4: Part of me. You don't want to find out that
Speaker 4: Santa isn't real with some of these lines, like I
Speaker 4: hope to God these are authentic because they're great, Like
Speaker 4: lin Cynthia, like bn Lola first starts undressing her and
Speaker 4: she's what is set. You're like a seventh story brothel
Speaker 4: and she's saying that it's sexy.
Speaker 7: This is why I'm dying to know who is which
Speaker 7: of the two writers of this film is the genesis
Speaker 7: of lines like that?
Speaker 4: Is it this with German?
Speaker 7: Presumably woman who by the way, I looked her up,
Speaker 7: So she was Christine.
Speaker 4: Baut What was her name? Yeah? Or Limbock maybe yeah.
Speaker 7: Anyway, she was born in nineteen eighteen apparently, so she
Speaker 7: would have been like about six, probably pushing late fifties.
Speaker 7: To think of a Swiss German fifty year old woman
Speaker 7: coming up with some of these lines, I'm just like, interesting,
Speaker 7: So is it Franco? Is it this other writer who
Speaker 7: came up with this? Because they're quite there's some real
Speaker 7: gems in there.
Speaker 2: She's no slouch though, when you look at her filmography
Speaker 2: and it's like love letters of Portuguese non barboar dolls.
Speaker 2: I thought at first that she had something to do
Speaker 2: with The Devil and Miss Jones, but no, it's The
Speaker 2: Devil and Miss Jonas.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she definitely knows her way around some purple prose
Speaker 2: at yeah.
Speaker 7: And both of those that you mentioned, the two Franco
Speaker 7: films with love Letters of Portuguese done and with Barboar dolls,
Speaker 7: or both Franco films and both, or when Dietrich productions.
Speaker 7: She must have been in his circle.
Speaker 2: I think, speaking of Dietrich, I was getting a little
Speaker 2: blue angel at the end of this. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was when they described her. They described her hair.
Speaker 2: Lina Romas is having a page boy and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not a page boy. It's not short enough for
Speaker 2: me to be a page boy haircut. But then just
Speaker 2: the whole he never gets his revenge. He ends up
Speaker 2: getting knocked over the head by her girlfriend, and then
Speaker 2: the movie abruptly ends. I can't believe how quick this
Speaker 2: movie ends. It just feels like they just lopped off
Speaker 2: the last bit of it and we're just like, okay,
Speaker 2: that was it. Like when the movie ended, I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, what just happened? I thought something went
Speaker 2: wrong with the file.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel like that happens often with his films, and
Speaker 7: like really abruptly and you're already enmeshed in this fever
Speaker 7: dream though, and then it just like stops and you're
Speaker 7: just like it's almost like waking up from a weird dream,
Speaker 7: like what the hell just happened.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I thought of too. When it ended,
Speaker 4: it was I was just like, oh, we're out of
Speaker 4: the realm. Now it is over, I know in some
Speaker 4: weird way. And they're two completely different filmmakers, but there's
Speaker 4: some kind of that sacked, like some kind of chemick
Speaker 4: goal effect from this movie that I get from incredibly
Speaker 4: strange creatures who stopped living and became except zombies by
Speaker 4: Ray Dennis Steckler. I don't know if it's the musical
Speaker 4: numbers there could play again, anybody who's gonna be If
Speaker 4: everybody has not seen that movie, don't go into it
Speaker 4: expecting a lot of new shape. It's not. And Steckler
Speaker 4: is very much a very American director, and the stuff
Speaker 4: feels very American. But that film has a weird sort
Speaker 4: of dream quality to it too, and I just I
Speaker 4: love I don't know, I'm a sucker for that. It's
Speaker 4: fancay because I thought they everyone ever call this like
Speaker 4: a great Franker film. If somebody was like, oh, can
Speaker 4: you recommend like a good introduction, this would not be
Speaker 4: high on my list. But I'm really glad I watched it.
Speaker 4: I really did genuinely enjoy this and I love the performances.
Speaker 4: I love Jess Franco playing this that I feel like
Speaker 4: we need more. I want to see more detective characters
Speaker 4: like this one. It's almost like taking the like Elliott
Speaker 4: Gold as Philip Marlow and making him even more just
Speaker 4: down on his lot.
Speaker 7: I'm just a really reminded of a line, just going
Speaker 7: back briefly, so memorable lines in the films is where
Speaker 7: he says again, it makes me think of Franco considering
Speaker 7: which roles to take in his films. He says something like,
Speaker 7: I'm know Robert Redford or alland alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a great time for these schlubby detectives.
Speaker 2: And we've talked a lot about him on the show before,
Speaker 2: as far as Ellie Gould or Richard Dreyfus in The
Speaker 2: Big Fix and some of these other anti detectives that
Speaker 2: they had going on at this time, and even going
Speaker 2: back to Jake Gidtis, he's also he's not a good detective.
Speaker 2: A lot of times he hears about the Badford Grass
Speaker 2: thing and it takes him forever to figure that out
Speaker 2: or doesn't realize like maybe he should investigate the other
Speaker 2: missus mul ray and all these things. He's not the
Speaker 2: great it's detective in the world, and that Franco is
Speaker 2: in that mold as well. There's something there, but I'm
Speaker 2: too stupid to recognize it. I'm like, okay, good, But
Speaker 2: at least he recognizes that he's too stupid, especially.
Speaker 4: Because it's all his hyper fixation, Like you cannot get
Speaker 4: this woman out of his system, no even and who
Speaker 4: can blame him?
Speaker 7: I know?
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. Like the camera loves lener I
Speaker 4: wish I really actually do you wish we had more
Speaker 4: shots of her face this film, because there's some of them.
Speaker 4: It's almost like looking at painting. It's not just because
Speaker 4: she's pretty, like she's just she's luminescent.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's really magnetic in this movie, like just beautiful obviously,
Speaker 7: but also like just has such a present. She was
Speaker 7: a trained theater actress. There's a couple of her comedic
Speaker 7: roles that she did for Franco that I haven't seen
Speaker 7: yet that are still on my to watch list. But
Speaker 7: I have a feeling that her talents lie more in
Speaker 7: the comedic sphere. This is not to disagree with people
Speaker 7: who really love her things like female Vampire where she's
Speaker 7: playing this iconic horror film figure. But I really feel
Speaker 7: like she knows what she's doing with comedy. She handles
Speaker 7: the material really well. You can really see in this
Speaker 7: movie what a good actor she is, And I think
Speaker 7: anyone who is as dismissive of Lena as they would
Speaker 7: be of say, just Franco, would really benefit from looking
Speaker 7: at the performance in this film and seeing how really
Speaker 7: good she is.
Speaker 4: Oh great, and she is so genuinely funny, and is
Speaker 4: like that part when you're talking about Mike where he's
Speaker 4: like giving the orders, is she.
Speaker 7: Just tugging for the camera.
Speaker 4: That's it's as good as the penis is gonna get it.
Speaker 7: It's just it's a really good physical comedian as well,
Speaker 7: like I think, and you totally see it in that
Speaker 7: particular scene too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to think that they were together for what
Speaker 2: forty years and she was in I would I sound
Speaker 2: like I'm exaggerating, but one hundred and nine of his films,
Speaker 2: I want to say I read something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they had quite the relationship. To still see them together
Speaker 2: in their twilight years and her still out there going
Speaker 2: to Fantastic Fast in two thousand and nine and spreading
Speaker 2: the word still just like, Wow, that's amazing just the
Speaker 2: longevity of her career. And yeah, I think I would
Speaker 2: have liked to have seen her in more of a
Speaker 2: screwball comedy. I think she could have pulled that off beautifully.
Speaker 4: Totally totally agree.
Speaker 7: There's a comedy she's in, and again I haven't seen
Speaker 7: it yet, so I really can't speak much about it.
Speaker 7: But there's a Just Franco film called it's called Celestine
Speaker 7: all Around Made or something like that in English, which
Speaker 7: is like a very straightforward comedy apparently, So now I
Speaker 7: want to track that one down and see more for
Speaker 7: comedic jobs. And by the way, for anyone who hasn't
Speaker 7: seen the absolutely adorable video clip of just Franco receiving
Speaker 7: his life Lifetime Goya Award sometime in the two thousands,
Speaker 7: she been like little old lady Lena Rome wheeling out
Speaker 7: Jess Franco to accept his a war like is just
Speaker 7: the absolute most adorable thing you'll ever see. I'm sure
Speaker 7: you can find it on YouTube.
Speaker 4: It's really cute. Oh, it's really sweetest.
Speaker 7: For anyone who's a fan, it's like, really such a thing.
Speaker 2: This film almost broke me at times, but pat Radkey,
Speaker 2: we did your request and you haven't broken me, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue down this path with Jess Franco.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to talking about some more of
Speaker 2: his films, and it sounds like just I'm just going
Speaker 2: to have to start picking your brain and finding out
Speaker 2: what some of the really good ones are.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talking out and then when that.
Speaker 2: Get thrown off by one of these, I'll know that
Speaker 2: I can get back on the horse and not have
Speaker 2: to worry about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot there to be mined. Because I
Speaker 7: mentioned it earlier, I guess I might as well briefly
Speaker 7: go back to it. Jess Franco casting himself, which he
Speaker 7: didn't do a lot, especially in like main roles, like
Speaker 7: we see him pop up a lot in Virgin among
Speaker 7: the Living Dead and like small weird usually comedic kinds
Speaker 7: of roles, sometimes a little more horror oriented, but he
Speaker 7: very rarely casts himself as the lead. And two that
Speaker 7: came right around the same time where this and the
Speaker 7: film I was talking about earlier, Exorcism, which was like
Speaker 7: a total one eighty from this film and is a
Speaker 7: great film and I totally highly recommend it for anyone
Speaker 7: who hasn't seen it, who wants to see more of
Speaker 7: just Franco. I think it's a sort of a hidden
Speaker 7: gem in his catalog where he plays this kind of
Speaker 7: defrucked batanic priest who's like trying to get vengeance on
Speaker 7: the loose morals women that he sees as causing his
Speaker 7: sort of moral downfall, and he's just sees a really
Speaker 7: it's a really dark he's really like this kind of
Speaker 7: like evil, like maniacal character. And again, like it came
Speaker 7: so close on the heels of this for him to
Speaker 7: choose to cast himself in the main role, I think
Speaker 7: is a really kind of interesting. It's a really interesting
Speaker 7: parallel to to me because there's such totally different roles
Speaker 7: and then again that he just so rarely did that,
Speaker 7: you have to think there's something deliberate in it.
Speaker 4: He could have found anyone to.
Speaker 7: Be in this role, but he decided to cast himself
Speaker 7: and it's just an interesting dichotomy of those two roles together.
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Speaker 9: movie shows downtown, Maybe know some little places to go
Speaker 9: to where they never close downtown.
Speaker 4: Just listen to the rhythm of a jelly busy over You'll.
Speaker 7: Be dancing with them to the father. Night has over
Speaker 7: here again.
Speaker 5: The light's so much brighter.
Speaker 9: You can't forget all your travelers, forget all your cares
Speaker 9: and gods down.
Speaker 4: Where are the lights? Are guys waiting for you tonight?
Speaker 4: You're gonna be all by that time.
Speaker 9: You have got somebody kind to help that understand you,
Speaker 9: someone who is just like you, and need to gentle
Speaker 9: him to guide them along.
Speaker 4: So maybe a see you there.
Speaker 9: We can't forget our trousers, can forget on our castles
Speaker 9: gone down.
Speaker 7: Things will be great when you're done.
Speaker 4: Don't wait a minute as fark everything waiting fall you.
Speaker 2: Down, down, Tell
Speaker 9: Ya told him to stand it