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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's showed.

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<v Speaker 2>People pay good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater, they are cold sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>hot popcorn and no monsters in the protection booth.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it does history like I can know.

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<v Speaker 5>If you guessed, madam that commissiation against meith Venzy photos

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<v Speaker 4>House in downtown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, m.

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<v Speaker 6>Your absolutely discretion, sister man.

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<v Speaker 4>And and dribous storya hinted c with Biogle fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>Tf Ramo.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host. Mike White

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<v Speaker 2>joined me once again as it is Heather.

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<v Speaker 4>Drain An I for an eye, a hole for a hole, also.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us once again as mss Jessica Shires.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're alone in life is making you lonely? You

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<v Speaker 2>can always go Downtown. Yes, we are wrapping up our

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<v Speaker 2>third month dedicated to requests in twenty twenty four with

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<v Speaker 2>one from Pat Radkey. Downtown, also known as Downtown The

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<v Speaker 2>Naked Dolls of the Underworld. This jess Franco film was

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<v Speaker 2>released in nineteen seventy five seventy six. I'm hearing different

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<v Speaker 2>things and this should not be confused with his nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four film Downtown heat Go. Written by Christine Lemback.

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<v Speaker 2>The film also stars Franco as a private dick who's

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<v Speaker 2>his sex machine for all the chicks, especially Cynthia, who's

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<v Speaker 2>played by Linda Romey. Also along for the rioter is

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Rome's pubic area, which is on display for at

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<v Speaker 2>least a quarter of the film. And no, I'm not exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be spoiling the pl lot what there is

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<v Speaker 2>of it as we go along. So if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want anything we ruin, better turn off this podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>come back after you've seen the movie. You will not

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<v Speaker 2>be sorry. So, Jessica, when was the first time you

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<v Speaker 2>saw Downtown and what did you think?

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<v Speaker 7>Although I am a huge Just Franco fan. I actually

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<v Speaker 7>did not watch this one until you asked me to

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<v Speaker 7>be on this episode. I'd had the German Blu Ray

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<v Speaker 7>for a while, but it just I'd never gotten around

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<v Speaker 7>to and mostly because if I'm honest, I was a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit prejudiced because I knew it was one of

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<v Speaker 7>his more comedic films and I'm more into the darker,

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<v Speaker 7>horror oriented stuff. But so I was excited to get

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<v Speaker 7>a chance to like deep dive into this one and

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<v Speaker 7>really give it a fair watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And Heather, how about yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of similar story, except I don't have that German

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<v Speaker 4>Blu ray which I saw. I saw that release online

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<v Speaker 4>that looks amazing. But I love, like we all do,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Jess Franco, and I thought, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a great opportunity for me to see this film of

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<v Speaker 4>his that I'm not super familiar with really ran that

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<v Speaker 4>much about it. I've just vaguely heard of it, And

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<v Speaker 4>this did not disappoint. This was definitely the first of

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<v Speaker 4>his comedies I have seen. And now one could say

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<v Speaker 4>that it is probably putting eighty pounds of labia and

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty pound bag. I don't think that's a bad

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<v Speaker 4>thing just makes it work. Jes Franco, to me, is

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<v Speaker 4>a true magician because he can make cinematic stories that

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<v Speaker 4>are like anybody else's that it can enchant you. And

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<v Speaker 4>he also just has a way of just creating his

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<v Speaker 4>own worlds. Every syll. Even some of his real lesser works,

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<v Speaker 4>there's still something. There's still like some miasma, and this

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<v Speaker 4>one definitely has it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been sold a bill of goods. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>these Just Franco movies. Now this is at least the

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<v Speaker 2>second or third one, and I'm like, Wow, why did

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<v Speaker 2>I have this bad impression of Jess Franco. Why did

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was just some sort of schlockmeister. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a schlocky film. I really like the

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<v Speaker 2>film noir aspects of it. I like the how many

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<v Speaker 2>bits of it. But my god, it's just those shots.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wish I was watching this with an audience,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think we would have a great time watching

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<v Speaker 2>this all together. And just every time this roommate comes

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<v Speaker 2>on screen, it's just oh, here's your face. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bush, and then then it stays on it for

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<v Speaker 2>so long. I'm like, wow, I was laughing in my

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine we would be an uproarious laughter if

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<v Speaker 2>we all saw this together in a movie theater.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, in this film, it really gives you a taste

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<v Speaker 7>of what Jess Franco is notorious for because you get

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<v Speaker 7>the zooms and lady bits in full display.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all there.

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<v Speaker 7>I think if you want to know, was with the zooms,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just it's here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's here. This movie to me makes me think of

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<v Speaker 4>it's one part of those seventies like cholpy action like

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<v Speaker 4>men's novels that were real sleazy, like the Man from

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<v Speaker 4>it's also somebody's done mushrooms a little bit, because there's

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<v Speaker 4>just even from the get go, we have this great

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<v Speaker 4>dialogue and I love it. I love Purple Pros. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh. There was so much fun. This is like

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<v Speaker 4>writing with somebody having fun with it, which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've got these details of this is a Mediterranean

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<v Speaker 4>port where the crayfish or crawfish is served fresh. And

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<v Speaker 4>we find out that our detective character our lad character

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<v Speaker 4>was raised by what he says whores and San Juan

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<v Speaker 4>and and already I'm like, I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 4>is playing the detective at that point. I'm just down.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm immediately down. The cinematography's really beautiful. This is like

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<v Speaker 4>really good looking movie, especially for you know, obviously I

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<v Speaker 4>think there was clearly limited budget, but it looks beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>The landscapes are are great. Lena her face is so

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<v Speaker 4>radiant and this she is just and I think she's enchanting. Anyways.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Lena Romete. You really just she's just got

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<v Speaker 4>that sparkle, which is why it's distracted. You're like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>her face is so pretty. Oh oh they're okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that looks nice too. Those and I but I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>It made me realize Russmeier is a breast man. Tinto

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<v Speaker 4>Brass is a booty man. Jess Franco's a bush man.

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<v Speaker 4>He loves the labes. He is a labies man. You

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<v Speaker 4>can say I hate myself for say that, but but

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<v Speaker 4>it's just part of the landscape. I think any either

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<v Speaker 4>director had this much cross shortage with it not being porno,

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<v Speaker 4>it would just be like, okay, dude, we get it. Ye,

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<v Speaker 4>Franco makes it work. He really wears to obsessions, shall

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<v Speaker 4>I say on his sleeve in this one. I think

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<v Speaker 7>I was just gonna say about Lena. I think this

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<v Speaker 7>is not only the most beautiful I think she looks

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<v Speaker 7>throughout just Franco's entire canon. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people are fans of her in Female Vampire, which is

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<v Speaker 7>a great one, and she was just a beautiful woman,

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<v Speaker 7>especially like that was like I think the mid seventies

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<v Speaker 7>was like the peak of her beauty. But I think

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<v Speaker 7>the combination of her comedic chops and her sort of

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<v Speaker 7>she's hotly radiant in this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I am a little hesitant to talk too openly,

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<v Speaker 2>just because Heather and I we've known each other for

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<v Speaker 2>over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything in everything, like nothing is off the table. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope that I do not offend you in

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation, because yeah, this is so much just talk

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<v Speaker 2>about pubic care.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just Franco fan, so it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your first walk in the park.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been friends with me for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair so she's tainted.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, take here. Yes, I narrowed her to my

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<v Speaker 4>web degenerously like I do all of my friends. But

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<v Speaker 4>I like to think I'm much like Lena Remain in

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<v Speaker 4>this movie, minus the bear breasted singing and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>can we get to that song? Actually I love her.

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<v Speaker 4>She has one song, She's what song? And half of

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<v Speaker 4>it's like are good.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm sort of indecipherable English lyrics some of them

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<v Speaker 7>can pick up on some of it and not everything.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll just say that. The fact that we start off

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<v Speaker 7>this film with a nightclub scene, like right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 7>you're getting like Jess Franco, but almost all of his

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<v Speaker 7>films he has some sort of element that is nightclub

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<v Speaker 7>asque or could be interpreted as nightclub or some kind

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<v Speaker 7>of performance. There's a lot of things in this film

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<v Speaker 7>that are like very like classic Franco and Nash the

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<v Speaker 7>Zooms and the Bush, but things like the nightclub scene.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like you almost can't have a just Franco movie

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<v Speaker 7>without having that kind of scene pretty much right up

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<v Speaker 2>And when we talked about Virgin among the Living Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing of starting with the outside and that

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<v Speaker 2>music in these movies. Some of it is just absolutely fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great song that starts off this whole movie

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And I have to say I struggled a

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<v Speaker 2>lot with the subtitles. I don't know what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on with my file, but I was just having a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time getting into all sync. But it actually added

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of weirdness to it because it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so it's like, who's talking right now? And so

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<v Speaker 2>much of it is that voiceover, So that helped as

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<v Speaker 2>well with just tying everything together. I was just here

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<v Speaker 2>the German which also threw me off that it was

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<v Speaker 2>my version. I don't know if your guys as was

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<v Speaker 2>as well, but all dubbed in German. But then it's

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<v Speaker 2>set in Puerto Rico. But then he's talking about the Mediterraneans.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, where are we? What is happening in

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<v Speaker 2>my world right now? And then even the first shout

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<v Speaker 2>of ver May, it looks like she's getting fucked, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we pull back and you're like, oh no, she's

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<v Speaker 2>just performing on this bear skin rug in a club

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<v Speaker 2>with this outfit that reveals her breasts and she's as

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<v Speaker 2>soon going to be just revealing everything else as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there are times where she's performing in this

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<v Speaker 2>club and she's just wearing like lingerie, fully exposed everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what kind of nightclub is this? And

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<v Speaker 2>where can I go to find this?

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<v Speaker 4>She did that a lot in Branco movies.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll sad a little bit about this movie later because

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<v Speaker 7>it has an interesting parallels. But the movie that not

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<v Speaker 7>immediately preceded this, but preceded this one by a few

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<v Speaker 7>films as a movie called Exorcism, which is definitely an

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<v Speaker 7>out and out horror movie. Again, here's some pretty cult

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<v Speaker 7>satanic nightclub scenes that you just want to be there.

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<v Speaker 7>You just want to know where it is. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then the central plot to this, not to

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<v Speaker 2>of this whole thing her hiring Franco as this private detective. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to go take some photographs with my

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<v Speaker 2>he still has all these photos. He's, oh, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>they go and take him to meet the woman that

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<v Speaker 2>hired him, but it's actually not that woman, it's another woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Oh, we're doing Chinatown. This is perfect, This

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<v Speaker 2>is right in that perfect spot of let's do Chinatown.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the whole Evelyn Mulray. Why my Diane Ladd

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that hired him? And then you find

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<v Speaker 2>out no, the real missus Mulray is Fate Dunaway, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is great, this is going to be fantastic. We're

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<v Speaker 2>like swapping genders of Chinatown. But then I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>And this really speaks to a streak of hard boiled

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<v Speaker 7>detective fiction and a new pulp fiction that runs through

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<v Speaker 7>Franco's career all the way up to his very last film.

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<v Speaker 7>And I can talk a little bit about this character

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<v Speaker 7>that he's playing in this film, al Perira. So this

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<v Speaker 7>is a stock Just Franco character. The first time this

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<v Speaker 7>like the third film, I think that we have a

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<v Speaker 7>character with this name. And Just Franco repeats names a

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<v Speaker 7>lot throughout his films. He does it not only with

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<v Speaker 7>al Perreira, but there's several characters in this film that

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<v Speaker 7>channeled names from many other Just Franco movies.

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<v Speaker 4>That came before it and would come after it.

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<v Speaker 7>So al Perreira is like this helpless detective. He's very

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<v Speaker 7>much as you see him in this movie. Eddie Constantine

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<v Speaker 7>was funnily enough the first person to play this character

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<v Speaker 7>in Just Franco's one of Just Fringo sixties films forgetting

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<v Speaker 7>the name, and then Howard Vernon played him in a

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<v Speaker 7>movie that just predated this one by a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 7>And then we have Just Franco decided to cast himself,

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<v Speaker 7>which I think is another thing you can talk about,

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<v Speaker 7>is Just Franco's casting of himself in film For just

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<v Speaker 7>a Guess Something. We talked a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 7>Virgin among the Living Dead episode. But yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 7>character would recur throughout his filmography, and his very last

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<v Speaker 7>film before he died was I think it was something

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<v Speaker 7>like al Pereira versus The Alligator Lady or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think there's something to be said there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I just got the more I hear about

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<v Speaker 4>Jazz and Layer and the more I just love him.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I It's so funny because I haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 4>previous Alperera films, but going in this film, before you

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<v Speaker 4>see him. I kept thinking, is it gonna be I

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<v Speaker 4>knew Howard Vernon, wasn't it Basley? Is it gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>Howard Vernon type? And then all of a sudden, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>l no, and I'm like, oh my god, it's Jes

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<v Speaker 4>which is wonderful. We love him, but it with like

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<v Speaker 4>such a juxtaposition, and I love that he just seems

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<v Speaker 4>to lenk into it. It's like, yeah, I'm a short

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<v Speaker 4>I have a short, middle aged guy with this awkward,

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<v Speaker 4>pale body that I'm just gonna inflict on and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it. Be proud of your body. There's no

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<v Speaker 4>body shaven here.

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to say, I think Jess is the

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<v Speaker 7>only person to be seen wearing underwear anywhere in this film.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent. This film hans for me, probably one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most difficult to watch threesomes I have seen

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<v Speaker 4>in film get straight in a very long time. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's so funny because Lena and her friend Lola are

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<v Speaker 4>full Starkers complete just lips a blazon, and he's dressed

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<v Speaker 4>like a used car salesman.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen plenty of sixties exploitation where the guys are

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<v Speaker 4>dressed like fred Garvin mil prostitute where they got the

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<v Speaker 4>knee socks and the boxers when the girls are pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much naked. This took that one step further, which was

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<v Speaker 4>a fascinating choice. It went on the way too. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. It's like when you love certain of tours,

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost after a while seeing like a family member

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<v Speaker 4>or something where you were like, imagine watching a William

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<v Speaker 4>freaka Baby We're reallyam freakins in it, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Liam Freakin and he's really good in it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, yeah, this is great, and he's feeling a

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<v Speaker 4>little sensual and you're like, whatnly, this is weird. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>totally gonna get haunted by him. I think he's said

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<v Speaker 4>was he haunting the guy that made the Exertion sequel?

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<v Speaker 7>Anyways, I just watched Play Misty for Me for the

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<v Speaker 7>first time last night, and Clint Eastwood in that full

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<v Speaker 7>minute long cheesy seventies sex scene, so I was just, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>my god, what is happening right until like the first

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<v Speaker 7>time ROBERTA. Flack is playing in the background. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 7>what inn hell is happening right now? I think you

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<v Speaker 7>have a whole discussion on when directors cast themselves in

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<v Speaker 7>films like what they do with it. And I think,

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<v Speaker 7>like Jess, Franco here is really telling you a lot

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<v Speaker 7>by kind of just the fact that he's like this

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<v Speaker 7>sort of self misfacing, dorky guy. What's really funny. I

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<v Speaker 7>think about what he does with this character is like

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<v Speaker 7>the character is constantly saying things about how he doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>like having to take pictures of women having sex, or

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<v Speaker 7>he doesn't like spying on people, whereas in fact, just

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<v Speaker 7>Franco was a huge voyeur who spent the better part

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<v Speaker 7>of forty years filming naked people. Well, and that just

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<v Speaker 7>goes back actually to a lot of the dialogue. There's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of funny in jokes here, especially you know

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<v Speaker 7>a lot about Franco, you can pick up on them

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<v Speaker 7>and things like that I'm no voyeur or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>He was like the biggest voyeur imaginable.

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<v Speaker 4>That was his thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And some of the banter between him and Lena reveals

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<v Speaker 7>some of that too, and also as funny as you

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<v Speaker 7>can see in that dialogue, their relationship was budding at

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<v Speaker 7>this point, like she was still married to I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's his name is Ramon ar Did who plays Pepe,

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<v Speaker 7>who's like the assistant, so that was Lina's husband at

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<v Speaker 7>the time, but yet at the same time she was

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<v Speaker 7>also like sort of this rising star and developing this

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<v Speaker 7>relationship with Franco that would you know, ultimately be personal

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<v Speaker 7>as well as professional. So there's a lot in the dialogue.

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<v Speaker 7>And also I just want to say that this is

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<v Speaker 7>a really heavy dialogue film for Jess Franco film. His

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<v Speaker 7>movies are often very sparse with the dialogue, and this

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<v Speaker 7>is if it's not a sex scene, it's people talking

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<v Speaker 7>the lot, which is interesting. I'm not that familiar with

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<v Speaker 7>Christine Lembach, who's credited as writing the dialogue on this,

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<v Speaker 7>but number one, it's interesting that it's a woman, and

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<v Speaker 7>number two, it's interesting that Jess came up with the

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<v Speaker 7>story and then plussibly this Lembach fleshed out the dialogue,

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<v Speaker 7>whether or not it was because she was a German speaker,

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<v Speaker 7>and because this is a Swiss German production, they needed

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<v Speaker 7>a German speaker to translate literally everything into German. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I think I actually I had to watch this twice

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<v Speaker 7>because there was so much in the dialogue. I felt

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<v Speaker 7>like I had to catch everything. And then also as

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<v Speaker 7>you were pointing out earlier, like the subtitles are and

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<v Speaker 7>can confirm on the Blu rays pretty bad as and

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<v Speaker 7>mismatched and incomplete as well the subtitles. Yeah, you're not

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<v Speaker 7>missing some whole sort of brief sections that are no subtitles,

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<v Speaker 7>subtitles that are misspelled and don't make sense and stuff

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<v Speaker 7>like that. So there is some improvement to be done

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<v Speaker 7>there for sure, especially because the dialogue is so tight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like at one point late Rita, who's

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<v Speaker 4>Pereira's girl like friend who's a girl but also girlfriends

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<v Speaker 4>like the closest we get a pure love interest and

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<v Speaker 4>at one point she calls them Deeter and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>definitely not a clue, no clue about that one.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, it's I think there must be an en joke

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<v Speaker 7>there that maybe we're not privy to or were Maybe

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<v Speaker 7>I don't get but I noticed that as well, but

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<v Speaker 7>didn't understand its meaning.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad though, that you guys brought up the

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<v Speaker 4>music for me, And of course I'm such a sawt

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<v Speaker 4>music and film and writing or my three just three

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<v Speaker 4>headed hydra of love if my heart and Jess Franco

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<v Speaker 4>just his use of music in general is just always

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<v Speaker 4>so glorious to me. And this I loved the soundtrack

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<v Speaker 4>for this even and even the fact that her song.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so fascinated by her song because it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's mostly muling, but she's just like, oh like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, they'll be like, I

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<v Speaker 4>want We'll make I sound like, be like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a bad by organ personation. I can't honor this. But

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<v Speaker 4>and then but then I think she's saying keep cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it, keep keep cool, and it's but she sells it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got this great kind of jazzy and I just

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. And I love like this like Nightclub

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<v Speaker 4>World because it's bananas, because the dancers all do seem

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<v Speaker 4>to be a bit edgier than your typical sort of

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<v Speaker 4>burlesque or strip teas. Because we get another dancer named

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<v Speaker 4>Sexy Rexy, who that name alone, she's that sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>a doctor hook medicine show song or something that's sexy rexy,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's like doing this dance at the Red Candle,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it cuts away right before stuff

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<v Speaker 4>gets really hard and did everybody's oh wonderful when my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite is one girl and she doesn't sound sarcastic. At

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<v Speaker 4>the end of Lena Rome's act, says, Oh she's so

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<v Speaker 4>classy or classy. Yeah it is if you say so. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the bike. Yeah, the human body should be celebrated.

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<v Speaker 7>I just I was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just fascinating to me because I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not and I genuinely love this. I love it when

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<v Speaker 4>a film can take place but just enough reality where

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<v Speaker 4>we've got okay, we've got the mob, and we have

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<v Speaker 4>people conniving for more money and power and lust. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>these are all very human elements. It's very real, true

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<v Speaker 4>to life, but it's done in this way where it

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<v Speaker 4>might as well be science, like the universe it's in

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<v Speaker 4>and I love that. I generally think it's such a

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<v Speaker 4>compelling mix that is created, especially in this film, and

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<v Speaker 4>it just especially the way, just like the camera just

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<v Speaker 4>gets lost and we're talking, you can't escape it. If oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are being juvenile, especially that girl Heather, that

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<v Speaker 4>philistine over there, if you have seen this movie, we're

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<v Speaker 4>not exaggerating, Mike. You and I on this very show

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<v Speaker 4>up talked about explicit sex films that had less kindacological

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<v Speaker 4>looks and that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it used to be the joke for my

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<v Speaker 2>friends and I where it was, oh, do you need

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break from this porno film? Okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>just put on a lesbian scene and then go to

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<v Speaker 2>the store and then go shopping, and then go to

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<v Speaker 2>the bank and then come back and it might be

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<v Speaker 2>over by that time. It felt very similar to me

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<v Speaker 2>with this one, where it's just like, okay, we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the lesbian and seene, Oh, we might as well just

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<v Speaker 2>take a break here. I'm gonna hit the restroom, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>make a sandwich or something, because it just goes on forever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>The second time I watched this, I was just okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't need to watch this. Used to pay more

420
00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.079
<v Speaker 7>attention to the dialogic than anything else this total.

421
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 2>It's a shame too, because I really like the actual

422
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>detective story that's going on, and detective story mixed with sex. Hey,

423
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that's great. I love that idea. But yeah, just the

424
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>balance wasn't there. And we should also say Franco's making

425
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.559
<v Speaker 2>what I think it was at least six movies this year,

426
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 2>if not more so. It's just like, well, of course,

427
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.039
<v Speaker 2>not everything gets the love and attention of other things.

428
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>But going back to what you were saying before, Heather,

429
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>this film looks absolutely gorgeous. Everything looks so good. The

430
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:52.119
<v Speaker 2>colors are popping, everything looks great. I imagine this had

431
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>been restored at some point and it just looks beautiful.

432
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And I just love the look of it. I actually

433
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.799
<v Speaker 2>really liked the story. I love him as this kind

434
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>of schlubby detective that's really not that good of a detective.

435
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I like detectives like that where they do know their

436
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 2>foibles and they're just like, maybe I'm not the greatest

437
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>detective in the world, but I'm going to try to

438
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>get this case done. And he gets set up by Lena,

439
00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and if not for the good graces of the inspector

440
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 2>the Paul Mueller character, he would just go to jail.

441
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>But instead, Mueller at the end it's like, you know what,

442
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you a chance to get revenge

443
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>on this person.

444
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 4>I loved. I thought that was wonderful.

445
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 7>Oh god, I think I had to stop with one

446
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 7>go is he really just gonna let him go and say,

447
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 7>you know what, just go get her?

448
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:45.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, sorry, we let him? Oh my god, what

449
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 4>if many decisions made this film where you're like, oh,

450
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:55.039
<v Speaker 4>what questionable shit? Where along for the ride? No, I

451
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 4>love this and Freako was having so much about like

452
00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.799
<v Speaker 4>that shot where it cuts to him in the back singing,

453
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 4>it's just I literally loved it aloud, like he is

454
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.680
<v Speaker 4>so funny here, and I love the fact that he's

455
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 4>not trying to because I think when people think of

456
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 4>a director casting themselves as a heroic lead with the

457
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.000
<v Speaker 4>prey lady there most of the time, ninety times the time,

458
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 4>that's not going to be a good performance. And it's

459
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 4>also going to be played completely straight, like we're supposed

460
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 4>to believe that the director guy has all of the

461
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:32.359
<v Speaker 4>sax appeal of Franco Niro and John Saxon combined, but

462
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 4>they actually look like morally safer. Just Franco, I love,

463
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 4>we all love jonangar it just Rinko just doesn't. You're right,

464
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 4>and I love the fact you point it out. Yeah,

465
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 4>his character isn't the greatest detective, is very aware of

466
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 4>his humanity, is very prone to being like that sweet

467
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 4>little bitch, and this recurring thing about the circular holes,

468
00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.960
<v Speaker 4>like a bullet is a circular hole. But then he's

469
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:01.599
<v Speaker 4>imprisoned by that sweet circular hole and it made my it. Honestly,

470
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm like, I've never thought of a China as

471
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 4>a pure, a perfect circle.

472
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>That's not been my experience. But maybe I'm just going

473
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 2>out with the wrong people.

474
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, the lady is with perfect symmetry in that and

475
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 4>their orifices. I don't know where I'd go with that,

476
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 4>but I will say I loved Rita. I thought she

477
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 4>was like a cool character ell of the fact that

478
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 4>she gives him shit too, like where he actually proposes

479
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:36.000
<v Speaker 4>to her and she's I may be stupid, but I'm

480
00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 4>not great. Yeah.

481
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 7>And this, here's another character parallel from at least one

482
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 7>other film that I can think of, is and it

483
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 7>is what he'd covered on the show before, Mike is

484
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 7>Venus and Furs, where you have Rita as the long

485
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:56.160
<v Speaker 7>suffering girlfriend who wearily tolerates the cheating of her man,

486
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 7>but he always comes back to her because Rita is

487
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 7>that strong base that he can come back to. Yeah,

488
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 7>so that's another parallel. Is that type of character with

489
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 7>that name?

490
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, I like that.

491
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>You get that whole metaphor for directing as well. When

492
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>franco inexplicedly decides that he's going to join up with

493
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia and help her blackmail this guy and take all

494
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>of these blackmail photos from the looking through side of

495
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.559
<v Speaker 2>the one way mirror, and he's there directing them and

496
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>talking to them pretty much yelling at them from the

497
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>other side of the mirror. And now the guy who's

498
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>drunk or high or stoned or whatever they did to him,

499
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 2>but he's just like whoa. The mirror talked whoa. And

500
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>then it's just Franco like the man behind the curtain.

501
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you don't handle a cock like that, don't do that.

502
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 7>It's so meta event seeing it's absolutely him being very

503
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 7>aware of the fact that this is like a metaphor

504
00:27:55.400 --> 00:28:00.039
<v Speaker 7>for him as a director and hilariously, oh go.

505
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 4>And the funniest thing to me about that was right

506
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 4>before he starts talking through it, I kept being like,

507
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 4>camera noise is so loud. I was seeing that when

508
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 4>we first see him getting the evidence against who we

509
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 4>think is Cynthia's has been Chris. We find out things

510
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 4>are not to say seem but and I love the

511
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 4>use of actually the mirror in that because at first

512
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 4>you keep thinking are we ever going to see them?

513
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 2>And it is nice.

514
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a nice slow build and then just

515
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 4>him just that simple sort of twist of the mirror

516
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.839
<v Speaker 4>and all is revealed. I love that. I love for

517
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing, when a drid can do that. Anyways, Yeah,

518
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:36.799
<v Speaker 4>I've actually been.

519
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 7>This is a theme that I've picked up on in

520
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 7>watching Franco's and every time I watched another Franco for

521
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 7>the first time or for the tenth time or whenever,

522
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 7>I always make notes on when I see mirrors because

523
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 7>they pop up like in so many films, Like I think,

524
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 7>once you start looking for them, you see them everywhere. Yeah,

525
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 7>so you have that scene when he is trying to

526
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 7>take the illicit pictures of the sky having an affair,

527
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 7>and then you see that scene with how it's reflected

528
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 7>in the mirror.

529
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 4>It seems like it's so deliberate.

530
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 7>And then again towards the end, we have that double

531
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 7>sided mirror with the mirrors and Jess Franco films, I

532
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 7>think are something I always like to examine closely.

533
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, what does he do in with the mirror?

534
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 7>And this fell purpose isn't serving because I think it

535
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 7>does different things in various of his films, but you

536
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 7>see them quite a lot once you start to notice them.

537
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh, absolutely. I feel the same way about Radley Metzker.

538
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>On a side note, I always find it fascinating with

539
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 4>certain directors how we approach mirrors, like because only certain

540
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 4>watchers really have that motif pop up again. But yeah,

541
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 4>I kept thinking they're going to hear him that camera.

542
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 4>This is an old school hemera and light. It is

543
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 4>so loud. And then second time, I'm like, oh, surely

544
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 4>to god, that guy's gonna hear him clicking find that mirror.

545
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 4>And then all of a sudden, he's just yelling at him,

546
00:29:54.240 --> 00:30:00.799
<v Speaker 4>you fool, or that thing. And this poor guy I

547
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 4>had so many questions. I'm like, why are they trying

548
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 4>to blackmail? Okay, his dad's a pastor, but then he

549
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 4>gets killed and I'm like, wait, this poor guy is awkward.

550
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 4>Tidy whities, they're the most awkward, unsexy underwear shuffling, and

551
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 4>it's not a bad looking guy. You're like, he's all

552
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 4>right then, but then he starts walking, Oh my god,

553
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 4>And it's totally like if you were like at a

554
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 4>sleepover at a friend's house and their dad walks out

555
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 4>to grab the thing from the fridge and he's in

556
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 4>his underwear and it's that it's like dad underwear walk.

557
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 4>It is not sex speaking of about sexy while we're

558
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 4>talking about families, I have a line of dialogue I

559
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 4>specifically wrote on a note card so I would not

560
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 4>forget it, And this is perhaps one of the most

561
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 4>unsexy sexy sentences I've heard of. Luck time, Come on, sweetie,

562
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 4>where's your fat uncle dick?

563
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh geez, forgot that.

564
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 4>If you hear a weird husky now sound, that might

565
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 4>be my overy shriveling to nothing say that line.

566
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 7>But I would actually love to see this re translated

567
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 7>with better subtitles. Youdn tell they're pretty terrible. I have

568
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 7>a feeling a lot of this really uncomfortable awkward to

569
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 7>us as English speakers. Dialogue comes across a lot because

570
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 7>it's just badly translated. And I guess i'll I'll take

571
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 7>a second to talk about.

572
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 4>Like why this movie is in German and like a

573
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>little bit about the production plays. Yeah, this is fascinating.

574
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Heather said, there's not a lot of stuff written

575
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>about this. Scour through all of these different Franco books

576
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and I came up with what three articles or something.

577
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so this film, the reason why it's in German

578
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 7>is because during this time, just Forco just started to

579
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 7>work with this Swiss producer named Erwin Dietrich, who he'd

580
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 7>made like seventeen films with him, and some of them

581
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 7>are absolutely some of his best films, not this one maybe,

582
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 7>but he did some great work with Dietrich, and this

583
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 7>list came on the early end of this So basically

584
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 7>Dietrich funded all these productions, obviously not with tons of money,

585
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 7>but probably a little bit more money than Franco was

586
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 7>used to working with. And Dietrich had a studio, so

587
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 7>he had access to a lot of locations and things

588
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 7>that he didn't have previously, which is why the cast

589
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 7>sort of changes around this time, like the sort of

590
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 7>Franco regulars that you see kind of change. We see

591
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 7>people like Martine stead Deal this was her first film

592
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 7>with him, or maybe maybe her first one, one of

593
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 7>our first one to ten. Again, this is very hard

594
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 7>to pin down what came first the chronology of these

595
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 7>as you were talking about earlier at the beginning of

596
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 7>the episode of Mikel was this seventy five or seventy six.

597
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 7>I could track down that it was shot in like

598
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 7>late summer of seventy five, but the thing is, and

599
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 7>we talk about this a lot when you discussed Franco

600
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 7>is the fact that he was throughout his whole career,

601
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 7>not just when he was working with d Trich. He

602
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 7>would have someone pay him, give him funds and resources

603
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 7>to make film, and he would do that on the

604
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 7>super cheap and end up being able to scrape a

605
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 7>little bit aside, so he could make a different film,

606
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 7>usually with the same cast, usually with the same set.

607
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 7>So that's why you sometimes see these films that look

608
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 7>really similar, for instance, the cast and even the costumes

609
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 7>in this.

610
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>As someone who's watched a lot of the films.

611
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 7>From this period, I'm like, oh, that drops us from

612
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 7>Women behind Bars, that outfit is from this, or this

613
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 7>shot was shot in the same or this location is

614
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 7>the same as it was in Doriana Gray or something

615
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 7>like that. Like they were all shot so much around

616
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 7>the same time. He was shooting multiple films at the

617
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 7>same time. Okay, I'll do a scene for this other

618
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 7>project that I'm working on. So the timeline for these

619
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 7>is incredibly complex and hard to unravel, but it is

620
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 7>interesting to see that from the beginning. Brank Who It's

621
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 7>a long career, even though you can go through his

622
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 7>filmography and see the themes that run throughout the entire

623
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 7>course of his career. You can carve it up by

624
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 7>eras during which he worked with different producers, when he

625
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 7>was working with Dietrich or previously when he was working

626
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 7>with Harrio and Towers, when he was working with various

627
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 7>production companies.

628
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 4>It's an interesting way to divide up his long career.

629
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 7>So, yeah, long story short, that's what this film was

630
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 7>in German. I don't think there is an English version

631
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 7>that exists of this, so this is all we got. Clearly,

632
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 7>the cast was completely international, Spanish, French, Swiss, like all

633
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 7>over the place, and probably people are speaking their native

634
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 7>languages during the shoot, but it all ended up being

635
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:38.800
<v Speaker 7>dubbed into German.

636
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some of those shots of the bay that opened

637
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 2>this up and things, or maybe it's towards middle towards

638
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the end, I think too. I'm just like, oh, these

639
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>are probably stock shots that he shot and have been

640
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>used in other things. And that's also adds to the

641
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>whole ear reality of where the hell am I am

642
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I in Puerto Rico? Am I in Germany? And to

643
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>have of course, I've watched a lot of movies where

644
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a bunch of French soldiers, but they're speaking Spanish

645
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 2>because this was a Spanish film, so I'm like, oh, okay,

646
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But to have all of these people in this exotic

647
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>island location and they're all speaking German, I was just like,

648
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>this just doesn't add up to me. And just to

649
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>see the dubbing and everything, I was just like, this

650
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>is really strange. But it also just makes it feel

651
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>odd and off, which I usually really like.

652
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for what it's worth, this was shot and I

653
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 7>think it's called Bolius or Mayer, which is around Nice,

654
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 7>and some of it was shot in Nice as well,

655
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 7>and I think those casino shots with the I watched

656
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 7>it the second time with thinking about, Okay, why is

657
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 7>this movie called downtown because it doesn't feel very bustling

658
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 7>with a lot of remote apartments and villas and stuff.

659
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 7>But you go back and okay, yes, the nightclub scene

660
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 7>is clearly in an underworldy kind of downtown, gritty, grimy thing.

661
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 7>We see these exterior shots of casinos, a palm trees,

662
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 7>and at least get the hint that this isn't some

663
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 7>kind of criminal underworld, which the German title kind of suggests.

664
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I love the favorite best film. It's called that because

665
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 4>it does make you think, because there's all that great nature,

666
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 4>which Frank goes so great about Havings I think about

667
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 4>you mentioned Venus and Firds, which is one of my

668
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 4>favorites of his, like top oh, I love it filed

669
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 4>and just the shot at the beach, yeah, and just

670
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 4>the body washed on the shore. But I also feelate

671
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 4>with Perreira. He's he is kind of downtown. He is

672
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 4>the downtown because he's not going to change his flawed humanity.

673
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 4>He's just owning it. He's at the bar getting loaded. Oh.

674
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 4>The girl tries to be like, I want to screw you,

675
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 4>and he's, oh, I only go for singers. And then

676
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 4>I love it when read us like singing in the

677
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 4>bathtub and he's just like like carpet adder. Yeah, and

678
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 4>just the inter place was so cute. I love they.

679
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 4>I definitely I do wonder too about some of the translation.

680
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Part of me. You don't want to find out that

681
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Santa isn't real with some of these lines, like I

682
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 4>hope to God these are authentic because they're great, Like

683
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 4>lin Cynthia, like bn Lola first starts undressing her and

684
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 4>she's what is set. You're like a seventh story brothel

685
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 4>and she's saying that it's sexy.

686
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 7>This is why I'm dying to know who is which

687
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 7>of the two writers of this film is the genesis

688
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 7>of lines like that?

689
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Is it this with German?

690
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 7>Presumably woman who by the way, I looked her up,

691
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 7>So she was Christine.

692
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Baut What was her name? Yeah? Or Limbock maybe yeah.

693
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 7>Anyway, she was born in nineteen eighteen apparently, so she

694
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 7>would have been like about six, probably pushing late fifties.

695
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 7>To think of a Swiss German fifty year old woman

696
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 7>coming up with some of these lines, I'm just like, interesting,

697
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 7>So is it Franco? Is it this other writer who

698
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 7>came up with this? Because they're quite there's some real

699
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 7>gems in there.

700
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>She's no slouch though, when you look at her filmography

701
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's like love letters of Portuguese non barboar dolls.

702
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I thought at first that she had something to do

703
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 2>with The Devil and Miss Jones, but no, it's The

704
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Devil and Miss Jonas.

705
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

706
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>So she definitely knows her way around some purple prose

707
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>at yeah.

708
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 7>And both of those that you mentioned, the two Franco

709
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 7>films with love Letters of Portuguese done and with Barboar dolls,

710
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 7>or both Franco films and both, or when Dietrich productions.

711
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 7>She must have been in his circle.

712
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, speaking of Dietrich, I was getting a little

713
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 2>blue angel at the end of this. I don't know why.

714
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was when they described her. They described her hair.

715
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Lina Romas is having a page boy and I was like,

716
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not a page boy. It's not short enough for

717
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>me to be a page boy haircut. But then just

718
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole he never gets his revenge. He ends up

719
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>getting knocked over the head by her girlfriend, and then

720
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie abruptly ends. I can't believe how quick this

721
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>movie ends. It just feels like they just lopped off

722
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the last bit of it and we're just like, okay,

723
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that was it. Like when the movie ended, I was like,

724
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, what just happened? I thought something went

725
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 2>wrong with the file.

726
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

727
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 7>I feel like that happens often with his films, and

728
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 7>like really abruptly and you're already enmeshed in this fever

729
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 7>dream though, and then it just like stops and you're

730
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 7>just like it's almost like waking up from a weird dream,

731
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 7>like what the hell just happened.

732
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I thought of too. When it ended,

733
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 4>it was I was just like, oh, we're out of

734
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 4>the realm. Now it is over, I know in some

735
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 4>weird way. And they're two completely different filmmakers, but there's

736
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 4>some kind of that sacked, like some kind of chemick

737
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 4>goal effect from this movie that I get from incredibly

738
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 4>strange creatures who stopped living and became except zombies by

739
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Ray Dennis Steckler. I don't know if it's the musical

740
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>numbers there could play again, anybody who's gonna be If

741
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 4>everybody has not seen that movie, don't go into it

742
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 4>expecting a lot of new shape. It's not. And Steckler

743
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 4>is very much a very American director, and the stuff

744
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 4>feels very American. But that film has a weird sort

745
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 4>of dream quality to it too, and I just I

746
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 4>love I don't know, I'm a sucker for that. It's

747
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>fancay because I thought they everyone ever call this like

748
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 4>a great Franker film. If somebody was like, oh, can

749
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 4>you recommend like a good introduction, this would not be

750
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 4>high on my list. But I'm really glad I watched it.

751
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 4>I really did genuinely enjoy this and I love the performances.

752
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I love Jess Franco playing this that I feel like

753
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.559
<v Speaker 4>we need more. I want to see more detective characters

754
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 4>like this one. It's almost like taking the like Elliott

755
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Gold as Philip Marlow and making him even more just

756
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 4>down on his lot.

757
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm just a really reminded of a line, just going

758
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 7>back briefly, so memorable lines in the films is where

759
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 7>he says again, it makes me think of Franco considering

760
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 7>which roles to take in his films. He says something like,

761
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm know Robert Redford or alland alone.

762
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a great time for these schlubby detectives.

763
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>And we've talked a lot about him on the show before,

764
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>as far as Ellie Gould or Richard Dreyfus in The

765
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Big Fix and some of these other anti detectives that

766
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>they had going on at this time, and even going

767
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>back to Jake Gidtis, he's also he's not a good detective.

768
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times he hears about the Badford Grass

769
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>thing and it takes him forever to figure that out

770
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>or doesn't realize like maybe he should investigate the other

771
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 2>missus mul ray and all these things. He's not the

772
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 2>great it's detective in the world, and that Franco is

773
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in that mold as well. There's something there, but I'm

774
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 2>too stupid to recognize it. I'm like, okay, good, But

775
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.920
<v Speaker 2>at least he recognizes that he's too stupid, especially.

776
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Because it's all his hyper fixation, Like you cannot get

777
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 4>this woman out of his system, no even and who

778
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 4>can blame him?

779
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 7>I know?

780
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing. Like the camera loves lener I

781
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:27.400
<v Speaker 4>wish I really actually do you wish we had more

782
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 4>shots of her face this film, because there's some of them.

783
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.039
<v Speaker 4>It's almost like looking at painting. It's not just because

784
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 4>she's pretty, like she's just she's luminescent.

785
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she's really magnetic in this movie, like just beautiful obviously,

786
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 7>but also like just has such a present. She was

787
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 7>a trained theater actress. There's a couple of her comedic

788
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.159
<v Speaker 7>roles that she did for Franco that I haven't seen

789
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 7>yet that are still on my to watch list. But

790
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 7>I have a feeling that her talents lie more in

791
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 7>the comedic sphere. This is not to disagree with people

792
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 7>who really love her things like female Vampire where she's

793
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 7>playing this iconic horror film figure. But I really feel

794
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.239
<v Speaker 7>like she knows what she's doing with comedy. She handles

795
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 7>the material really well. You can really see in this

796
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 7>movie what a good actor she is, And I think

797
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 7>anyone who is as dismissive of Lena as they would

798
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 7>be of say, just Franco, would really benefit from looking

799
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 7>at the performance in this film and seeing how really

800
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 7>good she is.

801
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh great, and she is so genuinely funny, and is

802
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 4>like that part when you're talking about Mike where he's

803
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 4>like giving the orders, is she.

804
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 7>Just tugging for the camera.

805
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>That's it's as good as the penis is gonna get it.

806
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 7>It's just it's a really good physical comedian as well,

807
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 7>like I think, and you totally see it in that

808
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 7>particular scene too.

809
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And to think that they were together for what

810
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 2>forty years and she was in I would I sound

811
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>like I'm exaggerating, but one hundred and nine of his films,

812
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I want to say I read something like that. Yeah,

813
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>they had quite the relationship. To still see them together

814
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:08.320
<v Speaker 2>in their twilight years and her still out there going

815
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to Fantastic Fast in two thousand and nine and spreading

816
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the word still just like, Wow, that's amazing just the

817
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 2>longevity of her career. And yeah, I think I would

818
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 2>have liked to have seen her in more of a

819
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>screwball comedy. I think she could have pulled that off beautifully.

820
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Totally totally agree.

821
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 7>There's a comedy she's in, and again I haven't seen

822
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 7>it yet, so I really can't speak much about it.

823
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 7>But there's a Just Franco film called it's called Celestine

824
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 7>all Around Made or something like that in English, which

825
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 7>is like a very straightforward comedy apparently, So now I

826
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 7>want to track that one down and see more for

827
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 7>comedic jobs. And by the way, for anyone who hasn't

828
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 7>seen the absolutely adorable video clip of just Franco receiving

829
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 7>his life Lifetime Goya Award sometime in the two thousands,

830
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 7>she been like little old lady Lena Rome wheeling out

831
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 7>Jess Franco to accept his a war like is just

832
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.440
<v Speaker 7>the absolute most adorable thing you'll ever see. I'm sure

833
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 7>you can find it on YouTube.

834
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 4>It's really cute. Oh, it's really sweetest.

835
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 7>For anyone who's a fan, it's like, really such a thing.

836
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>This film almost broke me at times, but pat Radkey,

837
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>we did your request and you haven't broken me, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to continue down this path with Jess Franco.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking forward to talking about some more of

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<v Speaker 2>his films, and it sounds like just I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to start picking your brain and finding out

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<v Speaker 2>what some of the really good ones are.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, talking out and then when that.

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<v Speaker 2>Get thrown off by one of these, I'll know that

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<v Speaker 2>I can get back on the horse and not have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's a lot there to be mined. Because I

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<v Speaker 7>mentioned it earlier, I guess I might as well briefly

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<v Speaker 7>go back to it. Jess Franco casting himself, which he

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<v Speaker 7>didn't do a lot, especially in like main roles, like

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<v Speaker 7>we see him pop up a lot in Virgin among

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<v Speaker 7>the Living Dead and like small weird usually comedic kinds

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<v Speaker 7>of roles, sometimes a little more horror oriented, but he

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<v Speaker 7>very rarely casts himself as the lead. And two that

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<v Speaker 7>came right around the same time where this and the

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<v Speaker 7>film I was talking about earlier, Exorcism, which was like

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<v Speaker 7>a total one eighty from this film and is a

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<v Speaker 7>great film and I totally highly recommend it for anyone

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<v Speaker 7>who hasn't seen it, who wants to see more of

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<v Speaker 7>just Franco. I think it's a sort of a hidden

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<v Speaker 7>gem in his catalog where he plays this kind of

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<v Speaker 7>defrucked batanic priest who's like trying to get vengeance on

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<v Speaker 7>the loose morals women that he sees as causing his

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<v Speaker 7>sort of moral downfall, and he's just sees a really

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<v Speaker 7>it's a really dark he's really like this kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like evil, like maniacal character. And again, like it came

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<v Speaker 7>so close on the heels of this for him to

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<v Speaker 7>choose to cast himself in the main role, I think

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<v Speaker 7>is a really kind of interesting. It's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 7>parallel to to me because there's such totally different roles

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<v Speaker 7>and then again that he just so rarely did that,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to think there's something deliberate in it.

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<v Speaker 4>He could have found anyone to.

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<v Speaker 7>Be in this role, but he decided to cast himself

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just an interesting dichotomy of those two roles together.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're going to take a break and play

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<v Speaker 2>a preview for next week's show right after these brief messages.

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<v Speaker 8>Sir, can I ask you a question? You just saw

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<v Speaker 8>Kama Kazi eighty nine. Yeah, yes, bas B's is bast

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<v Speaker 8>fast Binda. You say fast Binda?

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<v Speaker 4>Who who this guy is?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is this guy who wears leopard and has leopard

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<v Speaker 3>car and he wears leopard halta and oh leopard cut

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<v Speaker 3>on bias And I don't like murder mysteries that make.

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<v Speaker 1>You laugh all of the time, big fat belly hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated Kamakazi.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. We'll be back next week with a look

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<v Speaker 2>at Kama Kazi eighty nine. Until then, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank this week's co host, Heather and Jessica. So, Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the latest with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Ma'am? My very first YouTube essay is live and I

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<v Speaker 4>get to discuss the inspirational nature and more out of

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<v Speaker 4>the grind House. Also, if you go to my website

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<v Speaker 4>Mondoheather dot com, I have a new piece about the

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<v Speaker 2>And Jessica, what's the latest with you?

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<v Speaker 7>Not too much with me, but if you're interested to

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<v Speaker 7>see my goings on, you can find me on my

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<v Speaker 4>It'scream.

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<v Speaker 2>Highly recommend it. Thank you so much ladies for being

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. Thanks to everybody for listening. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear more of me shooting off my mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>check out some of the other shows that I work on.

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<v Speaker 2>They are all available at Wirdingwaymedia dot com. Thanks especially

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<v Speaker 9>When you're alone and life is making you lonely, you

912
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<v Speaker 9>can always go downtown when you've got worries. All the

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<v Speaker 9>noise and the why seems to help.

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<v Speaker 4>Unknown downtown.

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<v Speaker 7>Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city.

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<v Speaker 9>Linger on the side of whether neon signs up pretty?

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<v Speaker 9>How can you lose the lights so much brighter there?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't. Forget all your.

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<v Speaker 7>Truck boost, forget all your.

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<v Speaker 4>Cares and go down town.

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<v Speaker 9>Things a great when you're down town, No find a

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<v Speaker 9>place for sure time everything's waiting for you. Don't hang

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<v Speaker 9>you around and let your problems surround you. There are

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<v Speaker 9>movie shows downtown, Maybe know some little places to go

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<v Speaker 9>to where they never close downtown.

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<v Speaker 4>Just listen to the rhythm of a jelly busy over You'll.

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<v Speaker 7>Be dancing with them to the father. Night has over

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<v Speaker 7>here again.

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<v Speaker 5>The light's so much brighter.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't forget all your travelers, forget all your cares

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<v Speaker 9>and gods down.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are the lights? Are guys waiting for you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be all by that time.

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<v Speaker 9>You have got somebody kind to help that understand you,

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<v Speaker 9>someone who is just like you, and need to gentle

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<v Speaker 9>him to guide them along.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe a see you there.

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<v Speaker 9>We can't forget our trousers, can forget on our castles

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<v Speaker 9>gone down.

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<v Speaker 7>Things will be great when you're done.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't wait a minute as fark everything waiting fall you.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, down, Tell

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<v Speaker 9>Ya told him to stand it