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this hour a lot of stuff and play. We got
some College Football talk as Nick Saban, Tommy Tuberville, and
Donald Trump have teamed up to save college football as
well as the very soul of America, according to coach Tuberville,
and we'll get into what exactly I mean by that.
We actually could do a Jewel Clatt Top twenty five
if we wanted to. As he releases post screen Top
twenty five. We have our Tatanville Story of the Day
day as well. We got a Jade Daniel's video to play.
You have that Mark Coumby video ready to go. That's
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get that ready to play. So I'll be calling for
it soon. But let's start here. Taylor, how cowboy breaking
this morning? There's subsidente, sub substitutive. I can't say the
words substantute, substantive trades, the Jerry vig so virginity, which
continues to go crazy on my Instagram. My mentions are,
it's so funny too. Whenever anything gets big enough, there's
always an argument that starts of some sort right in
the comments. Yeah, it's you know, there's it's all about
like education in America, blah blah blah. Like my god
knows two languages, y'all just chill out there. Yeah, it
was just a bad day for him. Yeah, it turned
out to be hilarious. Yeah, but it's like, uh, it's
like Rivers one time said can promise talking about compromise.
It's awful, it happens. It happens.
Speaker 1: My sister's done epitome instead of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's when I first did. I remember learning
epitome on a SAT. You know, you used to have
the SAT vocab quizzes every Tuesday. You gotta know, like
thirty words or whatever, thirty big words. I used to
love those. But that's how I said in my head forever,
and then one day I realized. I think somebody said.
I was like, oh, this is epitome. Said heard the
word epitome, but I have no idea that it was epitoph.
I say diaphragum, talking about diaphragm. No need to pronounce that.
Speaker 4: G Anyway, t TE carousel is a weird one, Crystal, Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know word, I can't spell rhythm. We did this
on the show and still can't do it. R h
y t h M. Still don't make any sense. It
will never I will never ever be able to spell
the word rhythm. It is weird.
Speaker 1: It even looks weird. It's one of those words where like,
even when it's spelled correct, you look at it and
you're like, that's not.
Speaker 3: Now a distinct lack of vowels, you know, AE, I
owe you and sometimes Y two. Well there you go.
Speaker 4: That's why I tell y'all, I always want to put
the eye before the een receiver, even though I know
the rule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all that, you know. Sometimes it's there, sometimes
it's not too. Yeah, it's a it's a soft rule. Yeah,
it's a soft rule. Oh my computer shut down. All right,
let's go ahead then, and uh tay tay the Cowboys.
Do we have the details on the trade the Cowboys
are trading for George Pickens. Yeah, so interesting move by
the Steelers. You go and you get DK Metcalf and
then say, you know what, we gave up some stuff that,
let's get some stuff back. Let's get rid of George Pickens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I was thinking about that because I
was My first thought was, okay, well, this clearly means
the Steelers thinks they're out on Aaron Rodgers if they're
getting rid of Pickens. But I'm like, you traded for DK,
you extended DK. You now have a thirty million dollars
a year wide receiver with Mason Rudolph as your quarterback.
You let Najie Harris walk, like, what is your identity
right now? On offense?
Speaker 3: I think their identity is trying to get Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I would agree, But you had Friar Muth at tight End,
you had Pickens, you had DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers
still had not committed to you. Is this going to
sweeten the part for Rogers? Because for me it would not.
Who's your number two? Calvin Austin? Yeah, I mean who's
who's behind DK? Right now?
Speaker 3: And I feel like a shot at Calvin Austin. I
mean Calvin Austin's fine, but like, who's Calvin Austin?
Speaker 1: I don't think that's there.
Speaker 5: You go.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna move the needle for anyone. But as
far as the uh, the trade.
Speaker 3: Goes, Nickins moved the needle for you, mister cowboy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it does. I think it does. You
needed something next to Ceedee Lamb, Like for two years
now you haven't had anything like you brought in cooks
he got a little bit older. That just didn't work
out for whatever, he couldn't stay healthy in Dallas. I
mean last year, your de facto number two was Jayalen Tolbert.
Jalen Tolbert's a good Playerbert, I don't know if he
should be your bona fide number two if you want
to have an elite offense. I mean it was really
Ceedee Lamb and that was it. You get a Pickens.
I mean he's six foot four. Like I like that,
he's a different type of receiver to Ceedee Lamb because,
like we talked about it with the Saints, right, oh,
you brought in three of the exact same guys. At
least you didn't do that. You know, you got a
Ceedee Lamb who's a little bit smaller guy. Now you
have a six foot four guy on the other side.
Now does it change my perspective on how the season
is going to end? No, it does not. But I
think it's gonna be a fun offense to watch.
Speaker 3: This is actually, legitimately no exaggeration, the first Cowboys news
piece of the last two years that I think is
made Taylor happy. Yeah. I don't think I've ever Yeah,
I've never heard him react positively. Two a Cowboys story
that we have talked about in years, and Pickens finally
is the one that gets you.
Speaker 1: Would have loved to that should tell you all you
need to know. But you'd have loved to have seen
me driving into work this morning because I'm listening to
ESPN radio as this is breaking, Like they cut in,
they have a SoundBite from Adam Schefter, like breaking news,
a trade between the Steelers and the Cowboys. I was like,
don't don't piss me off, don't do this. What are
we doing here? And I'm like, oh, the Cowboys got
a player. It's like, I'm good with it. They give
up a third round pick. There's some pick swaps, like
the Cowboys are going to get a higher sixth round
pick now, but they give up a third Like, good
with that? Giving up a third round pick for George Pickens?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, I think that's good value.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: Like what it is, it's third round and what else?
Speaker 1: Then the slopping in the sixth I think.
Speaker 3: That feels like great value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, how toxic was picking? So we know
he's crazy, but yeah, I'm sitting here, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 4: I mean, all right, so right now for the Steelers,
a franchise that is as stable as any franchise out there. Right,
your quarterback Mason Rudolph. You're starting running back Jalen Warren.
You have DK Metcalf obviously, and then it's Calvin Alston
the third and Robert Woods.
Speaker 3: Robert Woods is.
Speaker 1: Robert Woods still probably Woods is fifty years old.
Speaker 3: He's insane, but I was there. I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure he was right.
Speaker 4: Uh So, like that's your weapons and so like behind
those receivers, Okay, you have Roman Wilson, Scottie Miller, and
Rock Taylor.
Speaker 3: I don't know who Rock Taylor, no great name. Taylor
is Rock Taylor.
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller's good, but he's also only like five a
like he's a.
Speaker 3: He's a situation very fun because of course somebody named
Scotty Miller's five eight.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, there's no way that you can be.
Speaker 3: Remember he's a Scotty didn't.
Speaker 1: Know five eight white guy that Brady was throwing to
at Tampa. You remember Scotty Miller, but like he's not.
Speaker 4: Oh, hey, five five a white guy that Brady was
throwing to There's that is not narrow.
Speaker 3: Do you remember in the Green Bay game that big
catch up.
Speaker 1: Besides, he's a deep, deep threat receiver, but like he's
five foot eight, he's not gonna be your number two.
Speaker 4: If I'm Aaron Rodgers and I got the choice between
hanging him up and going to that offense, what makes
me want to go there?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 6: What Arthur Smith doesn't move the needle.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, he's still the exactly well good as an OC,
just as a head coach he was, you know back
in the day, because.
Speaker 1: He already it was already very apparent to me and
probably everybody else that Aaron Rodgers did not want to
go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Because Aaron Rodgers wanted to
go to Pittsburgh Steelers, he would have signed there months ago,
but that he kind of became.
Speaker 3: His only last first choice as Minnesota and Minnesota's I
get it up at the door cracked. But also people
are now purporting that maybe Aaron Rodgers got secretly married
to whom he showed up with a ring on his finger.
And one thing he's been talking about constantly in the
off season that he's got a new relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah he said, like he said, personal things going on.
Everybody assumed it was a negative.
Speaker 4: But I mean, is why we need our Aaron Rodgers
correspond attacks show up for work.
Speaker 3: I know, I know he doesn't get paid at a
conference in Indy, but he actually is, you know, working,
I guess for the business.
Speaker 4: And but still, yes, no know where your loyalty should lie.
It h the seventh ranked morning sports show in America exactly.
Speaker 1: And I get your point about the you know, like
the Rogers thing, but Giants closed the door on their
quarterback situation. Cleveland did as well. No soa all, but
has Pittsburgh's been his only option for a month now
and he still doesn't want.
Speaker 3: To go there.
Speaker 4: I mean, Cleveland's not closed. Why would why would you
be people in the room to shut the door?
Speaker 1: Why would get him rid of a George Pickens increase
this Like I think, I think this all but sums
up that Aaron, I'm just not gonna go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm there yet, but it does
seem to be a bit of a shell game from
Pittsburgh where Okay, you've moved the pieces around, but have
you uh, how much better have you actually got.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's one of those things where they're like, look,
we're clearly not getting air and we know this, let's
build for next year.
Speaker 3: Who we can. Let's get Pickens out of the building.
He was a problem. Was you got DK long term?
That's gonna be a great piece moving forward in a
matter world.
Speaker 1: With Mason as a bridge guy. Get a quarterback next year?
Like I mean, to me, this says Aaron Hudgers is
not going.
Speaker 3: DK probably didn't feel all bad because hes getting thirty million.
He's a very competent organization.
Speaker 6: But like you know, I'm not saying Sam Donald's said
in the World on Fire, but it's like you go
from that.
Speaker 1: Good news is he's the only player in that offense
that'll probably put up numbers.
Speaker 6: It's like Arthur Smith is my OC now, you know, Yeah,
DK should get touches.
Speaker 3: Though to Taylor's point, he should be.
Speaker 4: Oh he's I mean, he's got to be the guy
in I'm sitting here and I'm trying to figure out
why why they didn't make some more moves In the draft.
You draft Caleb Johnson, running back out of Iowa in
the third round. He's a good player, but I mean
he's limited in what he can do. Yeah, like this
is somebody that is he's gonna get you four yards,
but he's not very dynamic, Like he's not a home
run hitter like we was talking about, like a guy
that can take a carry and go eighty yards and
you feel like you have to have that. Like you
signed Kenneth Gainwell from Philly in free agency, but like
he's like a tweener kind of like sure he can
do some first and second down stuff, but he's more
of a third down only back. You take a defensive
of tackle, he's probably gonna play in the three four
I guess he you know, he's gonna play probably more
in and Harmon out of Oregon in the first round.
And it's like, get you were trying to get younger
at that position, but look, you spent a fourth round,
a fifth round, a first round, and a seventh rounder
on front seven guys on the defense, and then on offense.
You only spent two of your picks where a third
round running back in a sixth round quarterback. Yeah, like
maybe they just really believe now Calvin Austin is back.
Did they end up taking well, have Calvin Austin, somebody
that I do think actually will benefit from getting more reps.
He did have flashes last year, but he did and
you hope, I guess Roman Wilson from Michigan. You drafted
him last year the organized in college. Yeah, a great
senior boy, like he was routing people up. I think
he's got something to him, but he.
Speaker 3: Didn't have He had those great catches in the ALBUMA
some final game in the finals. Well.
Speaker 1: Well, and for two years now, all we've heard is
Jalen Warren, like he's going to be that guy in Pittsburgh.
He's going to he's going to take touches away from
Najie Harris. He's going to be the number one running back.
That hasn't happened. You move on from Naji, who was
better than Jaylen Warre lat year because Warren couldn't stay
on the fields.
Speaker 3: Bolt, let's go, oh not you into the I was
gonna ask for now do you want? I forgot?
Speaker 1: Wrote Naji, Ana Mauri and Hampton, good duo.
Speaker 3: Harball, running the ball, take some pressure off of Herbert
made some kind of like hardball, hard ball, hardball like
like like grit like running the ball like ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know you did it earlier on accident,
but it makes sense.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, even though the second you do that then
you know, well, now that's a dark joke. I'm not
gonna go yeah that anyway. So congratulations Taylor. It's a
big moment in the show's history. First time since Taylor
has joined the show that he has actually been pleased
about a Cowboys news piece.
Speaker 1: I think this, I think that's not an exaggeration till it.
Speaker 3: Ends with in the beautiful disaster that is the George
Pickens personality.
Speaker 1: There's just no way this works. I mean, look what Look,
it's not like the Cowboys are Super Bowl bull because
they signed Picking. It's like, this doesn't change my outlook.
But it's it's it's exciting. One win you can get,
you can get a you can get a win better.
Speaker 3: Is this just put an additional win in the tally
for you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Puts it? Yes, I think.
Speaker 6: Better today than it was yesterday.
Speaker 3: And that's that's that's all we can strive to be.
Speaker 1: They get one percent better every day.
Speaker 6: We have some breaking Saints news too, though you hit
me with it, be.
Speaker 3: Like the good call, good call, good call, guys, good
call protect me from myself on the other side, Breaking
Saints News, Whoda.
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It's off the bench with Hester and t Boba.
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Speaker 6: Remix, never hurt Nobody, remix, never heard nobody.
Speaker 3: This is me when my when my wife says, you
must be rosta if you think we're banging. He's the
white guy that's in all the memes Chad Banks. No, no, no, yes,
no he yes, no, I've seen those as well. But no,
it's that what he looks like. Beans, Yeah, get it
getting it in the like. I love that.
Speaker 6: I cannot tell you his name. So good.
Speaker 3: That's that's a it's been a fun top tier meme
the past few months.
Speaker 5: Man, make.
Speaker 3: On the bathroom floor. No, he's a sick of Wait
what what did I walk into? We're listening to Shaggy?
Oh what a hit? Yeah, I agree, banger, Well that's
what he did and that's what got in trouble. I
got it.
Speaker 6: It wasn't me, It wasn't mean.
Speaker 4: I mean that And obviously anytime you're growing up, like
that's gonna be the thing that like nostalgia, but like
from nineteen ninety nine, like two thousand and three, like
those songs, yeah, they I mean, they just they hit
something every time, like, man, this.
Speaker 3: Is a good song.
Speaker 4: Every time we play anything from that, like no matter
what is Yeah, because I got high for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was another one. I wonder if a man
is still in the fraternity circuit. He was. He he
was there when we were in college. He'd come and
tear it up for night. What was that one?
Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit after that time Sean Kingston, but
he had a couple of songs like I'm like, man,
I forgot about this song, but now I'm remember exactly
that kind of where I was when I heard it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's talking.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: So we got breaking Saints Us. What is it?
Speaker 6: Breaking Saints news? So straight from the horse's mouth the
New Orleans Saints Twitter pace congratulations to Cam Jordans for Thursday,
May eighth, being declared Cam Jordan Day by the New
Orleans City Council for Cam's devotion to the city and
serving the community.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, well deserved, no offense, Jordan, but you
ever sold the going in the break well.
Speaker 3: Deserved people around. We just had a meeting at the
quarterly meeting the other day, talked about improving teases.
Speaker 1: Is it is it Cam's birthday tomorrow, y May eighth.
Speaker 3: First off, that's Jacob Ester because yeah, true, exactly, it's
Jake Yesterday on this show. True true, But trying to
put poo a good story. No, it's a good story, somebody.
He's a West Coast kid, grew up in Minnesota, and
yet he has made New York Orlands home. And they
asked him if he thought about going anywhere else when
when it came time to, you know, think of when
he gets me playable, and he said he had a
little bit maybe of like a fleeting thought about West Coast.
But ultimately he's all about five oh fo and he's
been a great member of the community, an incredible leader.
He's always so positive. Right on all these shows that
he's doing now, they're always trying to get him to
talk crap about Derek Carr, and he's just consistently having
his guys back. Like Cam Jordan is the player and
leader that as a fan of a team you you
dream of because he's super productive he which again I
mean this is a credit to him, though I think
many of us will not do the same. He never
held the Saints feet over the fire in a contract negotiation.
He never went and got the actual max value that
he could get. He has stayed here, committed to the
mission of trying to bring a Lombardi back to New Orleans,
and he loves the city itself. But like Thomas Moore
soon in that way, where does Thomas Morrison live in
the off season? Lives here, So shout out to shout
out to Cam Jordan. Man, I'm I'm happy to hear
that it's Cam Jordan Day, even though here it's shake
yesterday tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Cam birthdays in July, so it's not his
birthday tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This seems like one of those things where the Saints
are like, guys, everybody's down on us. Drop the Cam
news now, put it out.
Speaker 3: Shut up, Taylor. Why don't you just go cheer for
George Pickens or something to get out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will cheer for George Pickens.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I guess that newspiece excited you so much
because when he comes to Cowboys Snooze, it's positive. It's
slim pickens.
Speaker 6: Uh. This is why you get paid the big bucks
check ching.
Speaker 3: Do you know that is speaking of saints che ching
Seth Green ad campaign from the eighties? Yeah? Do they
know who Seth Green is? Do you know who Seth
Green is?
Speaker 6: Is that the robot chicken guy?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Actually yes, yes, I was gonna say my favorite that
Seth Green is done not where most people would go,
but yes, the tiny little on HBO.
Speaker 1: No my favorite. But I think of Seth Green. I
think of Without a Paddle, You'll see that, Matthew Shepherd
Seth Green and then telling me no rat Race, telling me, yes.
Speaker 3: That's all I remember from Without a Paddle when they're
cuddling up. Yeah, that song you seen rat Race is
Matthew Lillard and.
Speaker 1: Without him and Deax Shephard and Seth Green in the three?
Speaker 6: Is he also Chris Griffin? Yes, okay, so yeah, I
only know the cartoon versions also Chris, and he's not
Steve from American.
Speaker 1: Dad Dad yep.
Speaker 3: And then very famously he is doctor Evil's son the.
Speaker 6: Yes he is the red head guy.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was gonna go Sloana set's up. Yeah a
big dog.
Speaker 6: And yeah Robot Chicken.
Speaker 3: Robot Chicken's great. One of my favorite shows of all time.
Speaker 6: Definitely was too young watching it, but like now it's yeah,
that's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So guys, big news here. Senator Tommy Tuberville has embarked
on a mission to save the soul of America. So
here's what tom had to say. Uh he said, and
he tweeted, And it's a picture of him so clearly
loving the setting as he looks like he's seated in
like maybe like a private jet or something, and President
Trump is standing in front of him and he's holding
court tubs. It but he tweets. Had a great conversation
with President Trump last night about the importance of establishing
national standards for nil. College football is the heart and
soul of America, but it's in danger if we don't
level the playing field. So Donald Trump spoken to Alabama
commencement recently and Nick Saban and Tommy Tubberville used this
time to pitch him on basically getting involved in this fight. Right.
We need an executive order. Congress cannot get it done.
We need an executive order seeking to accomplish our goals,
and then we'll see if the court's proven or not.
But I guess here's I'm trying to cut the fact.
Because they've tried like a dozen different bills in Congress.
None of them are gone anywhere. Here's what I think
they're trying to get accomplished. I believe that the bottom
line thing they're trying to get accomplished is they want
an antitrust exemption. The NCAA does, because that is the
foundational piece upon which they are losing all of these
court cases. You say a player is not eligible, they
come back and say, well, you're artificially capping my ability
to make money and I don't have another option because
you're a monopoly. You say a player can transfer, same deal,
right like That is the crux of every court case
that they are losing. If they could get that anti
trust exemption, they could start to make rules again. They
could do like a salary cap, they could do restrictions
on third party in il comps, they could do transfer restrictions.
They can do it without being sued as a trust.
Look there's the picture. You know, Tommy's freaking loving this,
him getting this while the President stands and has has
to listen to him talking about a head coach. Yes,
his ego is out of control. In that picture, you
checked his pants and they just have a freaking raging boner.
Here's my deal though on this, and I agree. I
I fully agree with the fact that it is insane.
The second biggest sport in America does not have a
ruling body, does not have a leader like a singular leader.
It is crazy. It needs to be fixed. Maybe executive
orders to play. Although it's gonna get very interesting what
happens with the anti trust settlement lawsuit if an executive
order does come through. I have no idea what happens there. Also,
there's a lot of lawyers who want to keep things
as is because they're making a lot of money, So
it's gonna be a fight. Well, I actually let me
read this and then I'll get to my word. So
this is a quote from one of the main lawyers
that's working on the antitrust settlement. He says, quote Coach
Saban and President Trump's eleventh hour talks of executive orders
and other meddling are just more unneeded self involvement. College
athletes are spearheading historic changes and benefiting massively from nil deals.
They don't need this unmerited interference. And here's the key.
They don't need this unmerited interference from a coach only
seeking to protect the system that made him tens of millions.
And this is why I say Saban's a bad messenger
for this. Now, Saban, would he be a good czar
of college football? I think I'd be into that potentially.
But why say he's a bad messenger? Is what is
this idea of leveling the playing field? Because to me,
I feel like I'm being gaslighted. You're telling me that
when you couldn't play pay players, when you couldn't pay players,
you're telling me that Alabama and Bowling Green were on
an even playing field. Like what are we talking about?
The money has always been there, The money is always
created an uneven playing field, only now it's in the
players pockets, as opposed to getting poured into facilities and
putting in a barber shop in your football ops or
a slide like Clemson hazard first class seat pods like
LSU has in their locker room. Like this idea that
it was ever an even playing field is just a
straight farce and absurd, and it rings especially hollow and
savings the messenger, and it feels like sour grapes. Let's
get back to the system that I was good at dominating,
that I was good at stacking in my favor. So again,
I think change needs to have it. I think I
want that framework. I want more guidance war rules. I
think everybody benefits in the end from that. But I
think this argument is weak. I think this even plainfield
argument has absolutely no merit. And and so they got
to get that, I think before they can get the
actual sport.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't so like all the changes that they
want to happen.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: I think we all agree there has to be changes,
but it doesn't have to be going back to what
we once knew.
Speaker 3: Can't be that, like that's the problem, Like for me,
instead of.
Speaker 4: Worrying about that, let's just put some rules into place,
like rules that are forward thinking, moving forward. But also
they kind of clean it up because cats out of
the bag, like it is what it is, like, you're
never going back to what it was. And I don't, look,
I don't I don't think you you should like, I
am all for players benefiting, but it is wild out
there and there does need to be some guardrails put
into place, but again not handcuffing.
Speaker 3: I will say that being able to transfer every year,
it's crazy. It is like, that's crazy, without question.
Speaker 4: I agree, and be able to like kind of you know,
try to use your leverage in the spring window because
you have like I don't like that.
Speaker 3: You can't have free agency every half a year. Cannot
you can.
Speaker 4: There's got there's got to be some rules and regulations
to it, which there's none right now. Like, that's where
you need to start. Okay, here's what it is. Let's
put these in place. Right The transfer a situation. You
get a you know, you get a one time wild card,
you do it, you're eligible go play right away.
Speaker 3: We're not doing it all four years. We're just not
doing that. That's crazy. Maybe you can earn a second
one through graduating or something, you know, if you want
to put an education exactly.
Speaker 4: And the revenue share, you know, I think that helps
some of the situation. But also like, okay, revenue share
and if you want to go make money off your
actual name, image and likeness, here's the guidelines that you
have to follow. Right, it's not handcuffing them. It's just like, hey,
there's rules, and here's the rules. And you can still
benefit off your name, image and likeness. But you know,
we don't want it to be the wild wild West.
And also, right, you gotta you gotta clean up the
agent part of this too.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that your statute is going to
really calcify and not want anything to chry to.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you get it down, get it
done without having a CBA being part of a union
in the entire deal, I don't know. But the fact
that anybody, the fact that like if Tata wanted to
go represent an LSU player, or if Jordan or anybody
in this room.
Speaker 3: Wanted to do it, we could do it. Yeah, Like
in the NFL, you have to be an improved in
a agents board. Yeah, you're capped at the amount that
you can actually get from the contract. Like these guys
are entering like entertainment contracts, which are like ten percent
of the contract twenty percent of marketing.
Speaker 4: Contract, not the three percent that NFL agents typically get.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So as that lawyer says that, look, athletes are
benefiting massively from nil. He is correct, but so is
he and so are the lawyers. And that's so it's like, okay,
what what are you going to give up in order
to get them to accept that? I don't know. Only
only time will tell those negotiations play out. But again,
this idea of leveling the playing field is one that
just rings hollow. And here's the so save it's a quote,
but the system and the way we're doing it right now,
there's very little name image of likeness in college athletics.
It's just pay for play. But here's my other thing.
What is fundamentally wrong with pay per play? Is that
not just being paid for your labor? Is that not
just how the world works? Like like, we have this
idea that pay per play is something evil or wrong,
but when you actually stop and think about it, well, well,
I get them. Maybe it's a bit distasteful because it
means that bigger schools can pay more. And yeah, maybe
that's where you can you. I don't know how you
get them to agree to a salary cap, but ideally
it's probably what you want to try to do to
emulate these other leagues. But this core notion that pay
for play is just flat out wrong. Is interesting to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know what you do on the field,
that is, that is your body of work.
Speaker 3: And somebody say, well, in the argument, I don't care
about your Instagram posts. I want you to score touchdowns. Yeah, yeah,
I'm willing to pay you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the argument that, well, that's what the NFL
was always for to get to that point. But here's
the problem with that. Okay, there's some great college football players, great, yeah,
all Americans that will never play in the NFL. Nope,
they'll never get hit that chance. And so you just
assume that, oh, you'll make it up on the back end.
It's not gonna be the case.
Speaker 3: No, for the vast majority of guys that will not.
I mean, Danny Stutzman's a like three time All American
and who knows he could not make the Saints. I
mean I think he will, but like you know, he'll
be his special teams wordaddy. Maybe it's like but but
you get the point, like wait, like whatever, Like like
Devin Neil, what do you had? Over fourteen hundred yards
every single season.
Speaker 4: Led Kansas three straight years, over a thousand yards to
all three years.
Speaker 3: One of the best players in their in their program.
He could not make it like he's I don't you
know he should be paid for that production. I mean
I always throw out the same names.
Speaker 4: But Eric Crouch Trophy winner yep, right, guy didn't have
an NFL career.
Speaker 3: Tim Tebow had a little bit of one, but not
a lot.
Speaker 4: Not what I mean, way more money in college.
Speaker 3: So again I I I'm not trying to have my
foot in both camps because I do agree changsy to happen.
I don't. I'm not smart enough to figure out what
the path is. But I think you need a stronger
base argument than level the playing field when the playing
field was so clearly never level to begin with. And
Steven's a tough messenger for this, given that he benefited
off of this old system that he's advocating for more
than anybody. Not just that he dominated, but he made
tens of millions of dollars every year simularly, so interesting
to see maybe, but yeah, but like be on the
lookout for that. If President Trump does do an executive order,
then all of a sudden, the revenue sharing and anty
trust settlement and also like everything we're talked about becomes
way more up in the air about exactly what's going
to happen. But I mean, maybe an executive order is
the way to get that any trust exemption. Maybe it's
a way to move forward. I don't know. I don't know. Again,
these are all very high level questions about the sport
that we love. I just want to talk about l
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Story of the day.
Speaker 1: Today, we could do one.
Speaker 3: You got one, just like loaded up like that. Another
round the chamber.
Speaker 2: Next time for Daday's NFL Story of the Day day
You're daily dose of NFL news from Taylor Sharp.
Speaker 3: Hit me with it.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, now, the backup quarterback with the New York Jets,
has came out in big time support of Justin Fields.
He's saying, look, you know, I don't want this to
be a quarterback competition. I think Fields is going to
be great for our offense. I know that when Jake
was in uh up there for the draft, everybody's talking
about what the Jets were going to do, and uh,
you and I were like, Okay, well if they grab
an o linemanuts because they're gonna want to run the
crap out of the ball with Justin Fields. It appears
that's exactly what they're going to do. Tyrod Taylor went
on to talk about his, uh their run first mentality
here going into the season. Obviously they do go offensive lineman.
They have Justin Fields, they have Breeze Hall, you have
Braylan Allen who looked pretty good at times last year. So,
uh the New York Jets, Yeah, good lord, that guy
in his uniform. Yeah, Brelan Allen is a monster, but
uh like.
Speaker 3: Him, Miles Garrett up there.
Speaker 1: Jets. They gave Fields. I didn't realize it was as much.
They gave Fields a two year, forty million dollar deal,
thirty million of it guaranteed. So, uh, they're buying in
love Justin. Yeah, there, they are buying in a little bit.
If you remember Woodie Johnson about a month ago. So hey,
you know, for us, when Justin Fields was entering the draft,
it was Trevor Lawrence and right below him was Justin Fields.
Never forget the fact that they drafted Zach Wilson over
Justin Fields. So that was a lie. But I don't
know what.
Speaker 3: The test I've determined that was a lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he's done in
the off season though, but they are loving them some
Justin Fields. I mean, having a guy like Tyrod Taylor
in your corner is not bad. I mean that's a
guy that's seems to be pretty respected around NFL circles, and.
Speaker 3: Uh he's all played by Tyrod. Dude. Look, I'm old.
I want to be a backup.
Speaker 1: He's all in to be in the backup.
Speaker 3: No, quarterbacks decision here, guys, don't worry. I'm here to
support my guy. Justin stay healthy.
Speaker 6: So Tyron stays with a job. He's yeah, because he's good.
Speaker 1: I mean, alright.
Speaker 3: Tyrod has been on a lot of different teams, some
of them not that great. Played against t Bob and
Iron College.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, okay, yeah, yeah, No, he was Remember the
LSU Virginia Tech game. Yeah, Trod was a freshman on
that team.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: He came in Tyrod Taylor twenty eight, twenty eight and
one as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3: He's been good.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, when the doctor Chargers doctor didn't try
to stab him in.
Speaker 3: The lunge, puncturing his luck shop again not the same thing,
but he had went.
Speaker 1: Where did he go after the Chargers? No, I'll tell
you what it was. No, it was with Cleveland before
if you remember, they drafted Baker. But they were like, hey,
Tyrod is going to be our starter. And through the
first like three or four games, like Cleveland wasn't winning
because oh Cleveland, they never win. But Tyrod was pretty good.
Got hurt in the third day night game. Baker came in,
got him a win. Boom replaced. He wasn't bad with
the Chargers, got punctured in his lung, gets replaced by
Justin Herbert Boom.
Speaker 3: Got to play with the Chargers. He was the starter
and then it was before game one. But I'm like
that he was right. It was early.
Speaker 1: He had played a.
Speaker 4: Little right, but I think it was like into like
maybe very early into the season.
Speaker 3: Was Howard Taylor best for the Bills? Yeah? Yeah, probably Yeah?
Speaker 6: You was that that you to play the Jaguars when
Jaalen Ramsey got the game winning was okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just remember Jayalen Ramsey called a wait.
Speaker 3: Wait on what's going on with Jail Rams? Is l
A out on him? Are they still in on him?
They're still trying to leave the Dolphins? Dolphinsment? Is he
out on Miami? Are they out on it? I saw
Jeff say that they're still actively looking.
Speaker 1: Even in the drafts haven't traded any.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Miami, what happened at Tyree Kill? Like the
in came fast there? Huh, children, I mean he's crazy.
They're gonna be wrong. Like I don't mean off the field,
I just mean purely on the field. Tyreek Kill had
I'm gonna have to look it up.
Speaker 1: It was I think four three or four catches thirty
yards or more last year, and that's what he's known for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just you know, that's what I'm saying,
Like it fell off a cliff. He went from two
years ago being like he might get two thousand yards
this season, and now he hates everybody and he wants out.
Speaker 6: Oh, he was the number one player. You know when
an NFL player do to top one hundred, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Was number one.
Speaker 6: It's got the number one which fresh out with the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: So it was like if you talk of Cli how
he's dangling babies over balconies.
Speaker 4: He's doing everything. Dude, I still think that Michael Jackson
he did.
Speaker 3: He did it too. Tyreek did the idea of the
video I heard. I don't want to watch it. Yeah,
what are we doing, dude?
Speaker 1: Like okay for for the Dolphins. Last year was his
third year, his first year seventeen hundred yards. Yeah, his
second year seventeen ninety nine. Yea year last year nine
and fifty nine yards.
Speaker 6: Under one thousand.
Speaker 3: I know that is and like and and like everybody
hates each other. Yeah, like he wants out. They won out.
Speaker 6: I mean to him, man, it's like, can we trust him?
Speaker 3: I don't know who's to a party on the boat
with the other day.
Speaker 6: Probably Trey cam Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably yeah in Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go skiing in Miami, snow skin.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 3: When we get back, let's go to wrap up the show.
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Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Remember the internet won't work either. Do I remember my Space?
Speaker 1: My Space? I remember?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: The social media? We really had.
Speaker 1: Fifth grade Taylor was deep in his fields and this
was my MySpace.
Speaker 3: When you opened the page and started playing. But who
had you? What was the name of the young Philly
that had you so twisted up?
Speaker 1: Not anybody in particular, just you know we heard fifth grade?
Every song so deep to you. You have no idea
what it means, Bacon and I.
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Speaker 1: I had this I remember remember Fox Fox brand.
Speaker 4: For my space, but like field, yeah Fox like the
it was like a bike, yeah, dirt bike stuff like.
Speaker 1: This brown Fox background didn't ride dirt bikes at all.
I had this Fox background with a nickel back one
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Speaker 3: Bing that was.
Speaker 1: That was my MySpace pitch. It's just every time I
hear this song, I think of my Space.
Speaker 3: My favorite logo of the Fox logo era was no Fear,
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what you're talking about.
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what's the deer one?
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Speaker 1: Browning is just a brand?
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is manhood a wise man? You know you couldn't even
run for console in Rome until you're forty years old.
It might have been thirty five. I can't remember, but
was gonna say it's what we're gonna say. It's forty.
We're gonna say it's forty to be console because they
knew you couldn't be a young a hole. True, I
don't know. Ask the bench, biggest what if in sports? Well,
it's what if Wednesday on hunts Stigram, Ask the bitch,
I'm must going to ever fix the Internet? I don't know,
and it's poor today. It's actually normally okay, but yeah
it is. It's been going through some weird ups and
downs as of plate. Ask the bench, on a scale
of one to ten, what level of cringe would your
MySpace photos be today if you could retrieve them? Mine
be twelve?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ten, probably probably seven. I had Cassie
when I was filling in for y'all. Uh pull up,
like I said, find the cringiest picture on my Instagram
from like a long time ago and pull it up.
We did that and it wasn't that bad way.
Speaker 4: Look, I've shared my senior pictures where I'm highlighted, hollistered up, like, yeah,
I mean those are out there he still look cool though,
I mean especially cool for the time all the time,
so the cringe is not out.
Speaker 3: Of control, you know. Yeah, I or black tucks with
a pink tie.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was a vibe I did, for sure,
for sure, that's good Charlotte feel to it. I was
more worried about what song was on the homepage of
my Space more than I was the picture. I just
didn't really care about the friend ranking either. That was
always weird with the top ten. I was just worried
about looking at sohas cleavage. It was the first time
where you started seeing some of your peers put out
first trap.
Speaker 3: Huh what? And I little know that was just the future.
That was just like here. It was the future of
humanity laid out with that song in the background, with
Sean Kingston playing in the background, Your Way to Be Hunger.
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