Speaker 1: This is Rich Stilman from Saint John's, Florida, and I
Speaker 1: play golf at the King and the Bear Country Club,
Speaker 1: at the World Golf Village, and at the Naval Air
Speaker 1: Station in Jacksonville. In Jacksonville Course. This is Golf Smarter
Speaker 1: number nine to sixty six.
Speaker 2: The research we've done and seen and been provided it
Speaker 2: unequivocally proves that walking is a much higher benefit to
Speaker 2: your health than sitting in a golf cart. And it
Speaker 2: can come from what caddy where you're just walking, or
Speaker 2: are you pushing, or you're carrying your own bag. We've
Speaker 2: actually seen some research that has shown that even just
Speaker 2: walking with an electric caddy, you're burning as much, if
Speaker 2: not more than carrying your bag or pushing a cart
Speaker 2: because of the benefits of what goes on with your back.
Speaker 2: If you're pushing a cart, you're in a posture that's
Speaker 2: not very natural either because depending on the hills or
Speaker 2: how the ground, if it's very soft and wet, your
Speaker 2: posture can be almost somewhat horizontal to the ground because
Speaker 2: where you're pushing the really benefits for austin, especially for
Speaker 2: the like acaddies, as you're literally taking a walk, so
Speaker 2: you do feel fresher, You do feel different.
Speaker 3: Walking a course just got easier, and the health benefits
Speaker 3: are substantial.
Speaker 4: With Billy Holbrook of MGI Golf, this.
Speaker 5: Is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great
Speaker 5: golf minds to help you lower your score and raise
Speaker 5: your golf IQ.
Speaker 4: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.
Speaker 2: Billy, Hey, Fred, nice to see you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for joining us today.
Speaker 3: This is going to be an interesting one because I've
Speaker 3: always talked about how I like to walk a golf course.
Speaker 3: That walking a golf course for me is a way
Speaker 3: that I can remember the golf course. Because I noticed
Speaker 3: that when I'm in when I'm in a cart, when
Speaker 3: i'm driving, it's I don't remember things about the golf course, right.
Speaker 2: Shame the same here unless it's like an extremely unique
Speaker 2: course or something that's just you know, top of the line,
Speaker 2: you know a place that you've seen, you know, or
Speaker 2: you've seen on TV. But you're right, if I play
Speaker 2: well on the cart, so you know, I could be
Speaker 2: on the seventh hole and says remember on number two
Speaker 2: when you sit there, and like Jesus, I don't even
Speaker 2: remember number two, I'd like, I'll explain that again, and like,
Speaker 2: that's so strange that that was only forty minutes ago,
Speaker 2: but yet it was hard again, maybe something about our age.
Speaker 2: Who knows, I might say something about our age here.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well I hope not, I know.
Speaker 3: But the other part of it is like, you know,
Speaker 3: when you're in a cart, you're just talking to somebody,
Speaker 3: so you hit.
Speaker 4: The ball, drive to the ball, hit the ball, drive
Speaker 4: to the ball.
Speaker 3: Correct, and it's just like, you know, and then there's
Speaker 3: nowadays people have music in the cart, and it's like
Speaker 3: it's not Yeah, I'm out here to be out here, right,
Speaker 3: and I want to do this, and I enjoy the walk.
Speaker 3: I enjoy the wildlife, you know, if they're lucky enough
Speaker 3: to have any other than just bird, you know, things
Speaker 3: flying around out there. But so I've advocated for a
Speaker 3: long time that people should be walking. And what I've
Speaker 3: really noticed lately there's more and more people in carts
Speaker 3: driving in carts, and they're young people.
Speaker 4: These are people who can walk. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 4: they're drinking too much.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure that has a little bit to do
Speaker 2: with it. And I think, you know, unfortunately, the way
Speaker 2: the America has, you know, the American golf business has
Speaker 2: been run for you know, the last thirty forty years.
Speaker 2: Golf courses have been designed for carts, meaning you know,
Speaker 2: the green to the next team may not be right
Speaker 2: next to it. So I would say, you know, from
Speaker 2: forty years past, you'll be able to see a more
Speaker 2: walkable golf course. That's something that's a little bit older.
Speaker 2: But the modern design of golf courses has really made
Speaker 2: it where the green to the next team might not
Speaker 2: be and I'm sure you can, you know, testify this.
Speaker 2: It could be four hundred yards away to the next
Speaker 2: tee and so some a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 2: I've gone to so many courses where they would say
Speaker 2: the car path, the length of the cart path just
Speaker 2: to give to the play eighteen holes is sometimes over
Speaker 2: nine miles long just to get around. And that's a
Speaker 2: long that's a long that's a long walk if you
Speaker 2: if you wanted to do that. But I think if
Speaker 2: we were just talking, and I think you hit it
Speaker 2: right on the head. Walking really it does bring out
Speaker 2: a more rhythmic way to play right where I think,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone when I talk to it's like boy,
Speaker 2: when I do walk or if I take it, if
Speaker 2: I'm lucky to take you know, a caddy with me,
Speaker 2: I just do. I do play a lot better because
Speaker 2: it's a more It's paced so much easier. You hit
Speaker 2: a ball, you're not rushing right to the you know,
Speaker 2: not a cart rushing to your next shot. That time
Speaker 2: you're taking to get to that shot, you're you're able
Speaker 2: to think about things, experience and things, you know, seeing
Speaker 2: views right rather than you know, ten seconds later you're
Speaker 2: at your shot waiting for the green to clear or
Speaker 2: something like that. It is a much it's a much
Speaker 2: better paced way to play. Everyone, everyone plays better when
Speaker 2: they do walk. Now, you know, we are in the
Speaker 2: society that time is you know, time is valuable, and hey,
Speaker 2: if I can get around faster with a cart, you know,
Speaker 2: they that's the perception you get. But I think we've
Speaker 2: been able to really do a lot of research and
Speaker 2: do some things where if four of you are walking
Speaker 2: and four of you are on a golf cart, it's
Speaker 2: literally within a minute or two difference in how how
Speaker 2: long it takes to play.
Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah, the timing. You know, people think
Speaker 4: that they're speeding things up, but they're not really.
Speaker 2: No they're not really, and it really does depending on
Speaker 2: the pace of how it is in front of you.
Speaker 2: If you play in a public course on a Saturday morning,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's it's gonna be four fifteen, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be four to fifteen if you're taking a cart and
Speaker 2: rushing to the to your ball, or it's four fifteen
Speaker 2: in your walk. But we've done enough research where it
Speaker 2: is very, very very close to that because you've got
Speaker 2: to remember, Fred, you're taking you're in a cart with
Speaker 2: two people, you're going to the other your your apartment
Speaker 2: ball as well. So by the time all that is
Speaker 2: kind of put together, you're you're literally you know, you
Speaker 2: could take a straight line and get there just as effectively.
Speaker 3: And then there's those days where you have the ninety
Speaker 3: degree rule or card path only, and probably nothing slows
Speaker 3: down around more than card path only.
Speaker 2: Correct, It's it's uh yeah, I mean in my club
Speaker 2: here in Orlando, I mean, if if it's if they're
Speaker 2: not allowing cards, or if it's cart path only, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just people don't play. I mean, it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing. So you know, luckily for us, we've
Speaker 2: been able to really do a uh really helpful with
Speaker 2: a lot of that by you know, providing you caddies
Speaker 2: to to hey, here's here's another option for you, because
Speaker 2: it is, it is there's nothing worse than having to
Speaker 2: go back and forth from the car paths, especially you
Speaker 2: know on the opposite side of the car path. There's
Speaker 2: nothing worse. And then you know, and then you're like, god,
Speaker 2: I don't know how far it is. I'll bring my
Speaker 2: bag with me just you know, because I don't know
Speaker 2: what kind of shot I'm going to have. So it's uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it does bring in a lot of extra work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a course to to of the courses that
Speaker 3: I play regularly, one of them it's like the end
Speaker 3: of the day is like you took twelve thousand steps today, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, eleven thousand steps and that's about a I
Speaker 3: guess a four and a half to five mile walk.
Speaker 4: Which is great.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: And then the other course has you know, like as
Speaker 3: one of my buddies says, like, if there's a fence,
Speaker 3: you got to go through it, right, and that's like
Speaker 3: a seventeen thousand step where we're almost walking over seven.
Speaker 4: Miles on that and can get pretty warm of there.
Speaker 4: That's quite a walk.
Speaker 3: And what I you know, the hardest thing that people
Speaker 3: get nervous about walking is the wheels, right yeah, not
Speaker 3: not having enough hydration, not having enough nutrition, and by
Speaker 3: the end of the round, they're just they're not holding it.
Speaker 2: Together right quite back nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then they use that as their excuse is why
Speaker 3: they need to be sitting in a golf cart.
Speaker 2: And I mean it's you can add that to anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, the more you do of something, you're just
Speaker 2: you're just going to get better at it. You know,
Speaker 2: with any type of exercise, you you know, the first
Speaker 2: first few times you do it, yeah, it might struggle
Speaker 2: a little bit, but after a while, it's you're you're
Speaker 2: actually benefiting yourself to push push yourself through those eighteen holes.
Speaker 2: You will get better at it and healthier obviously.
Speaker 4: And how long have you been playing golf?
Speaker 2: Uh? I was probably a nine, probably nine, so yeah,
Speaker 2: well over forty years.
Speaker 4: So did you were you introduced to golf as a walker?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you carried your bag. I Uh, I
Speaker 2: was a member at a nine hole course in Connecticut
Speaker 2: and I was the first junior member they ever had,
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just took my I drove my bike
Speaker 2: up to the club, played thirty six holes every day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, walked it the whole time. I mean I
Speaker 2: never took a cart the day. I don't think they'd
Speaker 2: allow me to because I was too young. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was that was just you know, what you did
Speaker 2: every day. But yeah, absolutely, we all we all, you know,
Speaker 2: for the most part, we all were introduced that way,
Speaker 2: you know, walking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as that kid, were you like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is going to be my life.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in the golf business.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, not at that age. I think
Speaker 2: it took a little while. I've been with it. You know,
Speaker 2: I've been in the golf business really since through high
Speaker 2: school and I kind of I kind of felt like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to do something I'm I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: pretty good at or I have a passion for. So
Speaker 2: it always that kind of kept me focused in staying
Speaker 2: in the in the business. I think I wanted to
Speaker 2: be a player, you know, professionally for a while, made
Speaker 2: the play played at Methodist College. It's a Division three school.
Speaker 2: They were very you know, very very successful. But I
Speaker 2: always thought I was going to be you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to play and then it kind of worked from
Speaker 2: being a player into maybe being a professional golfer, you know,
Speaker 2: teaching and running a golf shop that then morphed into
Speaker 2: becoming a rep for the past twenty five years, and
Speaker 2: then let into this opportunity about six years ago. So
Speaker 2: so yeah, I've kind of felt like I've you know,
Speaker 2: been been part of the business for you know, quite
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people who feel that
Speaker 3: if I walk a golf course, I'm gonna I'm going
Speaker 3: to invite new pain aches and pains in my back
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm just not used to walking, or
Speaker 3: you know, it's easier for me to sit. I know
Speaker 3: that for me, sitting in a golf cart hurts my
Speaker 3: back more than walking it through and you know, being
Speaker 3: able to keep it loose.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: Are there studies are about the benefits of walking. There's
Speaker 3: Have they shown that it's a greater benefit for you
Speaker 3: as a golfer to walk.
Speaker 2: It's almost I mean, the the research that we've done
Speaker 2: and seen and been provided, it's it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I mean, every unequivocally proves that walking is a much
Speaker 2: higher benefit to your health than sitting in a golf cart,
Speaker 2: no question. And it can come from you know, a caddy.
Speaker 2: You know you might have you might be lucky to
Speaker 2: have a caddy where you're just walking or or are
Speaker 2: you pushing or you're carrying your own bag. I mean,
Speaker 2: even when it comes to that, we've we've actually seen
Speaker 2: some some you know, some research that has shown that
Speaker 2: even just walking with an electric caddy, you're you're burning
Speaker 2: as much, if not more than than walking with a
Speaker 2: carrying a bag or pushing a car because of the
Speaker 2: benefits of what goes on with your back. If you're
Speaker 2: pushing a cart, you're you're in a posture that's not
Speaker 2: very natural either because you know, depending on the hills
Speaker 2: or how how the the ground, if it's very soft
Speaker 2: and wet, I mean, your posture can be very almost
Speaker 2: almost somewhat horizontal to the ground because of what where
Speaker 2: you're pushing. So the the really benefits for us, and
Speaker 2: especially for electric caddies, is you're literally taking a walk.
Speaker 2: You're not having to put any under pressure on your
Speaker 2: back other than just you know how how you're going
Speaker 2: to walk. So we just feel that the you know
Speaker 2: that you do feel fresher, you do feel different, uh,
Speaker 2: and in the good you know, in the right way,
Speaker 2: so you're not having to have you know, all that,
Speaker 2: you know, because you're putting enough stress on your back
Speaker 2: swinging you don't need it, you know, carrying or pushing
Speaker 2: anything as well. So it is uh, you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's really kind of what we have been trying to provide.
Speaker 2: I think the overwhelming success of the electric caddies has
Speaker 2: just come from the global for what's happened globally. I mean,
Speaker 2: everyone that plays golf walks outside of the United States.
Speaker 4: It is is there right.
Speaker 2: Ninety eight percent of the people that play golf outside
Speaker 2: the United States will be walking in some respects. So
Speaker 2: the electric caddies or any type of vehicle that's to
Speaker 2: help you has really taking a is such a you know,
Speaker 2: is really the culture of that outside of the United
Speaker 2: States is pretty well baked in everywhere. So it's just
Speaker 2: taken a little taken a little quite a while for
Speaker 2: it to happen in the United States. But you know what,
Speaker 2: since COVID and this influx of new golfers, it is
Speaker 2: really the demand for it and just people seeing the
Speaker 2: benefits of you know, doing something differently because the tech
Speaker 2: and innovations there has really become you know, is really
Speaker 2: taken shape and organically has grown our degree, uh you know, twentyfold.
Speaker 3: Amazing, Yeah, and you are there. So there are statistics
Speaker 3: that are showing that more and more people in the
Speaker 3: US are walking versus the rest of the world, which
Speaker 3: has been walking the course all the time.
Speaker 2: So our research was you know, and I think it
Speaker 2: really is. It's hard to say, because hard to say,
Speaker 2: but we've gotten to a point where I've I've seen
Speaker 2: things around thirty five percent or higher do walk exclusively.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people would you know
Speaker 2: what I hear when I go around talking to a
Speaker 2: lot of people and a lot of these consumer shows
Speaker 2: and wherever, people would rather walk if they had a
Speaker 2: better way to do it. So I think I think
Speaker 2: innovation has got us to a point where people are
Speaker 2: starting to think about, hey, I can actually do this
Speaker 2: without you know, so much pain or you know or fatigue. Uh,
Speaker 2: there is a there are better ways now to be
Speaker 2: able to do it. So, you know, what we've been
Speaker 2: able to do the last four or five years is
Speaker 2: create a vehicle for someone to take take a walk
Speaker 2: and play golf without you know, any of the ancillary
Speaker 2: issues that you might have if you were used to
Speaker 2: carrying a carrying your bag or pushing in a golf cart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's kind of we've been teasing this the
Speaker 3: whole time. So Billie obviously works for a company called
Speaker 3: MGI that creates electric carts. Yes, and I've again, I've
Speaker 3: always tried to walk. I've never carried my bag for
Speaker 3: more than nine holes, and even when I did nine holes,
Speaker 3: it like wasn't great. And so I've used push carts
Speaker 3: for long for the entire time I've played golf. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I noticed that, you know, living in northern California,
Speaker 3: we have a lot of courses that have a tremendous
Speaker 3: amount of undulation. And I don't mean on the greens,
Speaker 3: I mean the walk itself. We can go through, you know,
Speaker 3: four hundred feet of elevation chain throughout. I played Chambers
Speaker 3: Bay recently in Oregon. In Washington, great spot, and it's
Speaker 3: an over it's what seven point two mile walk with
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of elevation change going on as law,
Speaker 3: and it's all walking, it's all walk carts, a lot
Speaker 3: of walking, but you have a caddy carry in your bag.
Speaker 4: And so I've had the opportunity to try out.
Speaker 3: One of your mg I cards and now I'm like
Speaker 3: intrigued about even going higher tech with it, and I've
Speaker 3: really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: There is a learning curve.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, And I think you know that. I
Speaker 2: think that's part of our you know, part of our
Speaker 2: your motivation to you know, with with innovation to make
Speaker 2: it as user friendly as possible, right, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that's just like in anything, it's uh, the more
Speaker 2: you can make it easier to use and make you know,
Speaker 2: have it, you know, do the most it can do
Speaker 2: is a big is a big part. It's always the
Speaker 2: challenge because I think people our age, I think some
Speaker 2: of us get very intimidated by new technology sometimes with
Speaker 2: if it's a phone, if it's a computer or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I you know what I try to instill when
Speaker 2: I talk to someone who's going to use it. Well,
Speaker 2: one of our caddies for a long time is it.
Speaker 2: I was like, you need about two to three minutes
Speaker 2: in your driveway, just get used to it in your
Speaker 2: driveway with if you're using our remote control caddy, you'll
Speaker 2: get it. You'll get it, you know, figured out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: And it's funny when I when I talk to like
Speaker 2: a twenty one year old about it, they get it.
Speaker 2: They get a hang of it within you know, within
Speaker 2: a few seconds. But it's like in or younger. But
Speaker 2: for for people our age, we're used to a certain
Speaker 2: cadence of how things are and you know, hitting this button,
Speaker 2: hitting that button, what it's supposed to do. I think
Speaker 2: we just you know, sometimes have to be you know
Speaker 2: a little you know, relearn it a little bit. But
Speaker 2: I but as I said, we've got videos, we've done
Speaker 2: all these things too, just to kind of go, hey,
Speaker 2: it's not we're not splitting atoms here, it's there's a
Speaker 2: there is a simple method to it. And then within
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, yeah, you've you've got a pretty
Speaker 2: well handled.
Speaker 4: I'd call it a couple of rounds.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty tech savvy, Yeah, I kind of gravitate towards
Speaker 3: new tech all the time, especially on the phones and
Speaker 3: computers and things like that.
Speaker 4: So this one has always intrigued me.
Speaker 3: But I kept my arms distance because I think many
Speaker 3: years ago I tried one once and it was just
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't have a chance to practice with it.
Speaker 4: I just took it.
Speaker 3: Out on a course and it's like, I'm overwhelmed with this.
Speaker 3: This is a bit much. Sure, so I really appreciate
Speaker 3: the fact that I've been had the ability to test
Speaker 3: one out. You guys let me test one for a month.
Speaker 3: And I live next to a golf course, so on
Speaker 3: a day it was closed, I got to take it
Speaker 3: out and walk around with it, like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I can do. This is going to
Speaker 4: be that tough.
Speaker 3: And again, it's a little distracting when you first get started.
Speaker 4: It is a learning curve.
Speaker 3: You do have to get used to it. But once
Speaker 3: you get used to it, it's like, why have I
Speaker 3: not been doing this before? The walk has definitely become easier.
Speaker 3: And so the first time I went out, the first
Speaker 3: round I did, I tipped it over twice. I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: you know, if that's how this thing works, then I'm
Speaker 3: going to have to figure this out. Second round only
Speaker 3: rolled it one time. Okay, I'm getting better at this.
Speaker 3: Rounds three through six didn't turn it over, right. I
Speaker 3: started learning how to like, okay, slow it down here, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't really you know, curbs, you got to help
Speaker 3: it when you go up and down a curb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's kind of the I've tried to
Speaker 2: and there's a there's a nuance to that as well.
Speaker 2: I kind of some people, you know, sometimes they take
Speaker 2: it almost too slow over a bump. But I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like, you know, when you're on a on a car,
Speaker 2: and if you go over railroad tracks, the faster you go,
Speaker 2: it doesn't it smooth out a little bit more than
Speaker 2: if you slow down and go over a track. It
Speaker 2: kind of you absorb a lot more of the bumps
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 4: Right, But you're not worried about your car tipping over.
Speaker 2: No, you're not worried about your car tip it over.
Speaker 3: And you know you don't go over if you go
Speaker 3: over a bump and you're not at you know, perpendicular
Speaker 3: to it, you're on an angle.
Speaker 4: There's a chance this thing's.
Speaker 2: Going to be right, and then of course you know
Speaker 2: there's going to be a certain angle it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some danger there, stay stay away from it. But
Speaker 2: the nice thing about our caddies though, is we do
Speaker 2: have a gyroscope in there so as the cart if
Speaker 2: it's on the side of the hill and depending on
Speaker 2: the grade of the hill that we're talking about here,
Speaker 2: but it's always gonna it's always going to attrack straight
Speaker 2: for you, even if it's kind of been jostled around
Speaker 2: over bumps. The the caddy is always going to attrack
Speaker 2: straight because of the gyroscope. And that's been a very
Speaker 2: unique advantage that we've had out of other caddies, is
Speaker 2: because it does it does always, you know, go the
Speaker 2: way you wanted to, rather than having to keep you know,
Speaker 2: keep turning it left or turning it right to go
Speaker 2: in your area. It's always going to track where you
Speaker 2: wanted it to go initially anyways, So that's been a
Speaker 2: good part. But yeah, I've watched people tip over and
Speaker 2: most of the people they just kind of laughing, giggle
Speaker 2: and they put it back up and they you know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, within a couple I think I think it's
Speaker 2: just kind of learning to walk or whatever. Once you
Speaker 2: kind of do it once or twice, you learn and
Speaker 2: you know, and then it's then you're you're at it
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 3: So I got to imagine that the technology of these,
Speaker 3: which you refer to as caddies all the time, and
Speaker 3: I'm calling it an electric cart, sure, but it's a
Speaker 3: it's a what if you can imagine a push cart
Speaker 3: that you don't have to push correct it pushes.
Speaker 2: And I hear that all the time, and it's I've
Speaker 2: dealt with it because it's like in an electric push card.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if it's electric, it's not a push cart.
Speaker 4: So yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So buggies, trolleys, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, trolley's it's but it's a UK term for it
Speaker 3: be a trolley, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's yeah, a few terms that are used.
Speaker 2: We use caddies because it is because really what the
Speaker 2: role of that unit is is really to be a
Speaker 2: caddy for you. So we've always considered.
Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute, can you did I miss something
Speaker 3: in the technology that it reads putts for me too?
Speaker 2: Not yet not yeah, hey, but innovations always is always,
Speaker 2: uh ever changing, so you never know.
Speaker 3: Well, now you've got some news that have GPS built
Speaker 3: into it and a screen. You have a touchscreen on
Speaker 3: there that you can hook up Bluetooth for your phone.
Speaker 3: So even if your course doesn't allow phones, which I
Speaker 3: played one last week.
Speaker 4: It's like you don't allow phones, Yeah, you don't allow shorts.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, where am I here?
Speaker 2: What are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in a real old school.
Speaker 3: In eighteen ninety seven, you know established course that keeps
Speaker 3: those rules.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 3: The fact that you can have your phone if you
Speaker 3: get a text message that comes up on the screen
Speaker 3: on your caddy. I'm going to use the word caddy
Speaker 3: if you can get used to that and other technologies.
Speaker 3: So it's it's really advancing quickly and updating quickly what's
Speaker 3: going on with the latest technology on your machines.
Speaker 2: So I think we are as innovation is always changing.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, electronics is a is a It
Speaker 2: was a a a really interesting category to be and
Speaker 2: especially in golf because, uh, you know, before I came
Speaker 2: on board with m G, I I was with you know,
Speaker 2: some uh golf companies and hard good sales where you
Speaker 2: changed every year, you know, something new happened, happened every year.
Speaker 2: And then I got to this category and we really
Speaker 2: for up until about a year ago, things were you
Speaker 2: wouldn't change the caddy, and change the caddy for five years.
Speaker 2: It did, it did what it was supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Then we've kind of started to realize we were able
Speaker 2: to get some things integrated with the caddy itself to
Speaker 2: allow you know, other you know, other offerings to have
Speaker 2: things on you know, on the caddy. So now you're
Speaker 2: you're talking about our GPS unit, which is you know,
Speaker 2: I try to explain to them, it's to a golfer
Speaker 2: is like if if you see what if you're on
Speaker 2: a golf cart and you see the GPS screen that
Speaker 2: you have that you see on the golf cart, you
Speaker 2: literally got a four and a half inch screen packed
Speaker 2: into your top box that does the exact same you know,
Speaker 2: gives you the exact same benefits and features that you
Speaker 2: see on the golf cart.
Speaker 3: So it's which is great because you know, so many
Speaker 3: of us now are using apps that we either purchase
Speaker 3: or down there to our phone for free that give
Speaker 3: us an overview of the hole and this way, and
Speaker 3: I don't know why, as much of a geek as
Speaker 3: I am, I've always kind of shied away from pulling
Speaker 3: out my phone. Now, if I'm wearing a watch and
Speaker 3: it gives me that information, that's great, and I'll use
Speaker 3: a rangefinder so I can see the distance to the pin.
Speaker 4: But sometimes you just need to.
Speaker 3: See an overview of the hole of where you're standing
Speaker 3: to where the flag is, what your hazards are going
Speaker 3: to be. So having that just in front of you
Speaker 3: as you're walking. Is really a big difference that I
Speaker 3: didn't think that I would go, Yeah, I don't need that.
Speaker 3: I've got all these other apps and things that I'm doing.
Speaker 3: But it's like, oh, wait a minute, I know if
Speaker 3: I can eliminate all those things and just have it
Speaker 3: in front of me as I'm riding or walking along
Speaker 3: the cart the caddy.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know the car, the caddy, the push.
Speaker 2: Card, and I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: So it sounds like a gadget.
Speaker 3: You know the mechanics, and I guess so. So the
Speaker 3: new innovations as far as GPS and Bluetooth being incorporated
Speaker 3: into this, those are really going to be helpful for
Speaker 3: a lot of people. But the holy grail to me,
Speaker 3: the holy grail of all tech, whether you're talking phones, tablets,
Speaker 3: or caddies, like this is battery, sure, right, and so
Speaker 3: these what I've noticed is this it's a rechargeable battery.
Speaker 4: It's not that heavy, but.
Speaker 3: It's not light, yeah, and it adds adds to the
Speaker 3: weight of the thing. I could definitely see if I
Speaker 3: was a member of a golf course and they could
Speaker 3: just keep it there and they'll charge it for me
Speaker 3: and have it ready for me and my bag when
Speaker 3: I pull up.
Speaker 4: That would be awesome.
Speaker 3: Yea, and I and I've played various private courses around
Speaker 3: here and they're like, oh yeah, everybody's starting.
Speaker 4: To use these mg I caddies, you know, and more.
Speaker 3: And I know that you guys probably sell them as
Speaker 3: fleets to courses as well, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's becoming. That's really, without a doubt, probably
Speaker 2: our largest the largest increase in our businesses. You know
Speaker 2: the fact that courses are starting to see the revenue
Speaker 2: opportunity there, especially with people that like to walk or
Speaker 2: have a desire to walk in you know, with their
Speaker 2: you know, with their membership, and so some places will
Speaker 2: start with just a few and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you've seen them grow and grow and grow. They start
Speaker 2: with four and now they got twenty four and in
Speaker 2: summer even more than that. So it's uh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think and that's been a great tool for us for
Speaker 2: people to even try, because then they might maybe they
Speaker 2: just say, hey, I'd rather just get my own personal one,
Speaker 2: or you know, they get the and you know, they
Speaker 2: get the experience of walking and how much better it is.
Speaker 2: You're right, once you start walking again, you just feel
Speaker 2: better about playing anyway. So some some courses maybe just
Speaker 2: rather have the rental fleet opportunity for them to provide
Speaker 2: to the course to the course rather than letting their
Speaker 2: members bring their own you know, we kind of work
Speaker 2: both ways with those yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the part about the battery.
Speaker 4: Yes, which interesting.
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me, like, so, how many rounds can you
Speaker 3: get out of out of this battery? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I'm kind of nervous about not
Speaker 3: charging it every time because I don't want it to
Speaker 3: run out. Yeah, while I'm in the middle of a round,
Speaker 3: that could be a problem.
Speaker 2: Well for sure, if you yeah, that would be you know,
Speaker 2: that would certainly be a problem. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: them has been a big you know, the lithium batteries
Speaker 2: has been a big increase in in the quality and
Speaker 2: the durability of a cart and how far it can
Speaker 2: go because it's so much more efficient having having a
Speaker 2: lithium battery. So what I try to tell people, because
Speaker 2: I get asked that question every day, is you know,
Speaker 2: how long can will this go? And and so we
Speaker 2: guarantee thirty six holes? I would say, okay, guarantee it
Speaker 2: guarantee it and I will, and I would say dependent
Speaker 2: on your topography and elevation and where what you play,
Speaker 2: how heavy a bag is. You know, I live here
Speaker 2: in Florida where it's flat as flat, I mean I
Speaker 2: can get fifty four holes, you know, really and still
Speaker 2: have some left over in the in the battery to
Speaker 2: go even a little bit farther. I mean that's kind
Speaker 2: of why if you look on the screen, even with
Speaker 2: the at we do have a battery indicator light that's
Speaker 2: that's there, so you're never without you know, having a
Speaker 2: way to find how much battery life is left. So
Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't get be too surprised. I mean, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe you want to try to push it or I
Speaker 2: mean push it meaning you're going to push the battery
Speaker 2: life and see if I can get to squeeze in
Speaker 2: these eighteen holes. More likely you can. Most people ask me, Willy,
Speaker 2: what will happen if I if you know, if it
Speaker 2: conks out of me on fourteen, what do you do?
Speaker 2: And it's just like, look, you're not abandoning, you know.
Speaker 2: If it's if the power goes out on it, it's
Speaker 2: not like you're abanding it. Because if you notice when
Speaker 2: you take the wheels, you know, take the wheels off
Speaker 2: the axle. You got those little spokes that kind of
Speaker 2: tie into the wheels. If you just take those off,
Speaker 2: there's a there's two little rivets close to the end
Speaker 2: of the axles. Those wheels can go there, and you're
Speaker 2: just it turns into a push cart, you know, on
Speaker 2: your way to there. So you're never yeah, you're not
Speaker 2: like if you're on twelve, well then you know, just
Speaker 2: leave it there and get you know, have.
Speaker 4: Someonell a helicopter.
Speaker 2: Helicopter and fly it in or something. Well, you're just
Speaker 2: you know, you take the wheels off, the off the
Speaker 2: spokes that we have on the on the axles, and
Speaker 2: it's and it's a push car.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well I did notice.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that I really like
Speaker 3: about it is that being able to take those wheels
Speaker 3: off and reverse them, yeah, which I think is what
Speaker 3: you're talking about, and then being able to put it
Speaker 3: in the back of the car.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean you, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I am so impressed at how compact it can become
Speaker 3: once you know, fold it up, take that xtra couple
Speaker 3: of minutes. If you're taking it with you and be
Speaker 3: able to fold it up and it just fits snugly
Speaker 3: in the back there.
Speaker 4: I was really impressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've And that's another thing a lot of people
Speaker 2: do ask when when they're, you know, looking at our
Speaker 2: product for the first time, they're like, well, how do
Speaker 2: you get it into the trunk or what does it
Speaker 2: look like? And you know, when I fold it down
Speaker 2: for them, And then when you're talking about taking the
Speaker 2: wheels out and then inverting them and putting them in there,
Speaker 2: I tell everybody, you can put this in the front
Speaker 2: seat of your car and no problem, no problem. So
Speaker 2: there's really not many trunks that I've seen, other than
Speaker 2: some exotic European car that might not have a trunk
Speaker 2: at all. But beyond that, it can really get into
Speaker 2: any space that you really need. And that's what part
Speaker 2: of the things why some of the courses like what
Speaker 2: we're doing as well, is because you know, fully folded down,
Speaker 2: it takes up very little space in the car barn
Speaker 2: two or the storage area.
Speaker 3: I drive an electric car, okay, and it claims you
Speaker 3: can get two hundred and eighty miles to a charge, right,
Speaker 3: And the first time that I'm like, I got it.
Speaker 4: It's like, let's take a road trip. Well, it was.
Speaker 3: Ninety degrees out. We ran the air conditioning the whole time.
Speaker 3: We had a car full of stuff because we were
Speaker 3: going traveling and I got two hundred miles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like wait, what happened? You know?
Speaker 3: So there's so many factors involved in how but you're
Speaker 3: saying I'll get thirty six holes on this.
Speaker 2: That's why we can't say any more than that. I
Speaker 2: mean we really sure can say, you know, we can
Speaker 2: guarantee you thirty six holes because because of all the factors.
Speaker 2: And that's what I try to tell people is like, look,
Speaker 2: if you live in a flat area, if your bag's
Speaker 2: not as you know, you're not putting forty dozen of
Speaker 2: balls in your in your your golf bag and have
Speaker 2: you know, twenty five clubs in there, and you put
Speaker 2: your wardrobe in there, and you have an extra battery
Speaker 2: you know, I mean all those things you consider how
Speaker 2: long you're going to get up, you know you're going
Speaker 2: to get in that with that battery life, it does
Speaker 2: make a It does factor in. So I always tell people, look,
Speaker 2: we'll guarantee thirty six holes, but you know, if you're
Speaker 2: cognizant of the weight and you know, depending on the
Speaker 2: topography of the course that you're playing, you're definitely going
Speaker 2: to get more out of it. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: we you know, you know, for us, we just want
Speaker 2: to you know, we can say certainty you can get
Speaker 2: thirty six holes.
Speaker 4: Okay, good? But what about weather condition?
Speaker 3: So I mean, how we're talking about, you know, an
Speaker 3: electronic piece here. Yeah, in in areas and even if
Speaker 3: it's not raining and you're playing in the morning, the
Speaker 3: ground could be very wet. Sure, how does this unit,
Speaker 3: with all the technology involved, hold up in wet conditions?
Speaker 2: So I always tell people the simplest way to do
Speaker 2: it is like treat the caddy just like your phone.
Speaker 2: You know, it can get wet. Don't take a shower
Speaker 2: with it, don't jump in the pool, you know, with
Speaker 2: the caddy, you know it will be it'll it'll go fine.
Speaker 2: You got to remember, our companies companies out of Australia,
Speaker 2: so the environment out there is even more extreme than
Speaker 2: maybe what you'd find in certain spots here in the
Speaker 2: United States. So the Caddies, you know, was designed and
Speaker 2: built to deal with Australian weather initially, so the rain
Speaker 2: as well as the heat, all that is all that
Speaker 2: is encompass seeing to when we put a put a
Speaker 2: caddy together. Now granted this is lithium batteries, it's electric.
Speaker 2: It doesn't go well with with a lot of water.
Speaker 2: Obviously water is it's kryptonite if it's been exposed too
Speaker 2: much of it. But the way are the way our
Speaker 2: caddies that are signed. If you if you look at
Speaker 2: our caddie, it's very sleek. There's no exposed areas with
Speaker 2: the with the wires, it's all enclosed in the aluminum
Speaker 2: tubing that's there. We do a lot of work to
Speaker 2: keep that, you know, to keep that as you know,
Speaker 2: as safe as possible. Rain drizzle, we have really not
Speaker 2: seen too much of of that, but if it is submerged,
Speaker 2: you know, in a large puddle, lake, you know, river,
Speaker 2: those things, yeah, you got to you gotta pay attention
Speaker 2: to those. But we've you know, we're going, you know,
Speaker 2: we're advancing all the time. I mean, I think our
Speaker 2: product development teams always looking for you know, other things,
Speaker 2: and you know, you know, love to love to stand
Speaker 2: here one day and say, hey, you could you know,
Speaker 2: push this right into a lake and just pull it
Speaker 2: back out and get going again. That would be that
Speaker 2: would be an amazing thing to claim. You know, we're
Speaker 2: clearly not there yet, but you know, we're doing a
Speaker 2: lot of things technology wise that I think, you know,
Speaker 2: over the next few years you're going to see some
Speaker 2: things that are really even going to make those little
Speaker 2: troubled areas really come you know, really, you know, you
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that, you know too much anymore. So,
Speaker 2: As I said, innovations always, always, always changing and improving
Speaker 2: for this experience, because it's really Freds earlier we were
Speaker 2: talking about, is you know, just enhancing the golf experience
Speaker 2: that we want to we want on the golf course.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you there are a couple of things
Speaker 3: about it that I've just been the more I get
Speaker 3: accustomed to having it in my life, that I'm pretty
Speaker 3: blown away about. And uh, what I've noticed. First of all,
Speaker 3: in the first couple of rounds, I wasn't being as
Speaker 3: social as I can be on the golf course because
Speaker 3: I was so focused on where the cart is and
Speaker 3: how it's doing and where it's going and things like
Speaker 3: that that I was not talking to anybody but to
Speaker 3: the remote control.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: That's getting better. I'm seeing open it's like, okay, there's
Speaker 4: a fair way that I.
Speaker 3: Can go down here and just let it, let it go,
Speaker 3: and it'll meet me there. I can get a sense
Speaker 3: of when it's time for it to stop. Okay, I
Speaker 3: can do that, and I'm able to talk. But my
Speaker 3: favorite is, you know when you hit at inevitable errant
Speaker 3: shot that the ball goes into an area that you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to go looking for the ball?
Speaker 4: How many times.
Speaker 3: If you are with a push cart or you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, because people who carry their
Speaker 3: bag maybe carry it at all times, but with you're
Speaker 3: looking for the ball and you finally find it, but
Speaker 3: your cart is now twenty yards behind you right right,
Speaker 3: having a remote control in your pocket where you can
Speaker 3: just go, oh boy, you know, like come here now, doggie, righty,
Speaker 3: and so being able to just like leave the cart
Speaker 3: there and go the caddy there and say all right
Speaker 3: now I need you come to me now.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's great. Yeah, yeah, it saved a lot of
Speaker 4: time for me.
Speaker 3: That That is like, you know, the the ninety degree
Speaker 3: rule goodbye forever type of thing, because it's always at
Speaker 3: your beck and call yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing. You know, it's like how
Speaker 2: people use it, there's no you know, perfect way. You know.
Speaker 2: Some people they'll they'll get it going and they want
Speaker 2: it to kind of be right near them, you know,
Speaker 2: the caddy. Other guys, as they walk, they send it
Speaker 2: and there they send it to the ball as fast
Speaker 2: as they can and stop it as close as they can.
Speaker 2: So there's never been a I can't say there's a
Speaker 2: perfect ideal way to use it. Some people like it
Speaker 2: being very close by and almost as a companion, and others,
Speaker 2: you know, they get it out there is as fast
Speaker 2: as you as they can and then and they were
Speaker 2: just walking with their their friends. But you know, the
Speaker 2: way you said, it's like if you're sending it, you know,
Speaker 2: you probably need to pay attention a little bit, you know.
Speaker 2: I've I've even had the times where someone will you know,
Speaker 2: distract me and start talking and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I've seen its head towards a tree or something and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, hold on, I got a you know.
Speaker 3: Or a puddle or you know, yeah, drain. Yeah, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden there's this drain that it rolled over.
Speaker 3: It's like, wait, where did that get?
Speaker 2: Right? There's always a hole somewhere that you don't necessarily
Speaker 2: see even though you know I've been you know, remember
Speaker 2: at this club for so long, and then I went
Speaker 2: into a hole. I was like, I'd never seen that before,
Speaker 2: think what was going on? But but you're right. I
Speaker 2: think there's just, uh, there's a lot of convenience to
Speaker 2: you know, to having that with you, because I think
Speaker 2: one of the biggest things that I see from people
Speaker 2: is that, boy, it's really great. You know, I hit
Speaker 2: a shot on the green, I can grab my potter
Speaker 2: and I just send that, you know, I just send
Speaker 2: it to the next tea without having to worry about
Speaker 2: anything where you know, if it's a it's if it's
Speaker 2: a push card or something, you're either balancing it or
Speaker 2: pushing it as far as way as you can this
Speaker 2: you can put it. You send it right to the
Speaker 2: next tee really without worrying about anything, and you're just
Speaker 2: playing golf.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about the remote control for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Small remote control automatically hooks up to the unit and
Speaker 3: just as soon as you unplug it, you get a
Speaker 3: little on the screen that I have it shows how
Speaker 3: much battery life. So that's never an issue at all,
Speaker 3: and it's pretty responsive. I have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never flown drones before. I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to a remote control airplanes. Uh, but you know, like
Speaker 3: going down.
Speaker 4: A pathway as the pathway.
Speaker 3: You know, wanders in and out and moves and turns,
Speaker 3: and being able to get accustomed to the the remote
Speaker 3: control and making those turns is kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like a little remote control car, it is.
Speaker 2: That's what I kind of try to tell people. You
Speaker 2: just you know, if everyone's given their kids a remote
Speaker 2: control car, you know, in their lives, and it really
Speaker 2: navigates very similar to that in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, we we we try to make
Speaker 2: it as easy as possible because you know, your left
Speaker 2: and your right and your backwards is all. When you
Speaker 2: release the button, it stops or it stops doing that command,
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: That's left, right and backwards correct and then forward.
Speaker 2: We hit it once and it goes because the fact
Speaker 2: is the last one you want you to do is
Speaker 2: having the hole down the forward key the whole time,
Speaker 2: because you're ninety eight percent of the time that's what
Speaker 2: you're going to do anyway, So you hit it once
Speaker 2: and it's going to go forward for you. And and
Speaker 2: that's why the only time you really need to hit
Speaker 2: the stop button is is when you get you get
Speaker 2: you know, if the unit gets close to the ball
Speaker 2: or when you want it to stop. That's where the
Speaker 2: red stop button comes in. But outside of that, the
Speaker 2: left and the right and the back where it once
Speaker 2: you depress it, it'll it stops on commands, but the
Speaker 2: forward key we keep it going forward because that's the
Speaker 2: last you know, we don't want you to play eighteen
Speaker 2: holes and having the whole your thumb pressed on the
Speaker 2: remote the whole time that you're gonna have a sore thumb,
Speaker 2: you know, after having to keep that down.
Speaker 4: It's new new set of blisters for you. Right. So Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the other things that I think is really
Speaker 3: thoughtful in the design of this is that back small
Speaker 3: stabilizer wheel that if you're if it's going up an
Speaker 3: incline at all, it won't tip backwards because it's got
Speaker 3: this extra wheel. And then when you're going downhill with
Speaker 3: it it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't take off on you, no slows down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well that's been a big, big, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: big design feature for us, especially in our remotes, is that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the downhill, downhill and as well as like up if
Speaker 2: you needed to park it, it's not gonna even once
Speaker 2: it breaks. It doesn't slide down either, so you have
Speaker 2: the ability to really on those those hill you know conditions.
Speaker 2: It doesn't run away, it doesn't slide back. It stays
Speaker 2: in the consistent speed that you're looking for it to do.
Speaker 3: Am I not getting this or is it not developed
Speaker 3: yet that maybe there's some sort of I guess a
Speaker 3: beacon put in the remote control so that the caddy can.
Speaker 4: Just follow you without you pressing any button.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going on the rabbit hole with that one, Fred.
Speaker 2: So it's uh, we got this kind of time.
Speaker 4: This is episode nine hundred and sixty six. You want
Speaker 4: to talk about rabbit holes, you.
Speaker 2: Need another hour to just talk about that. Now. Look,
Speaker 2: I think we've we are you know, we're the number
Speaker 2: one manufacturer of electric caddies in the in the world,
Speaker 2: that especially in the United States, And we've always felt
Speaker 2: and believed that the caddy should be in front of you.
Speaker 2: So we've we've always felt that the caddy being in
Speaker 2: front of you is the ideal way to play, because
Speaker 2: if it's behind you, what happens. Towels fall off, it
Speaker 2: could run into other other people, head covers fall off.
Speaker 2: You've got to go over bridges. How does that work
Speaker 2: to get to make sure it's going over properly? There's
Speaker 2: a lot of things that behind you that and you
Speaker 2: just don't see, and you know, and your can.
Speaker 4: Pay attention to a lot of pay.
Speaker 3: You get up to your ball and the caddy is
Speaker 3: somewhere two hundred yards behind you later.
Speaker 2: What happened here? Now, with that being said, I think
Speaker 2: the demand for the following technology is to a point
Speaker 2: where it's it's something that I think you will it
Speaker 2: has been done. We've the technology. We don't feel perfected yet,
Speaker 2: but they're very very close. Uh there's some companies have
Speaker 2: done a very good job with it, but I think
Speaker 2: they've We see that the price point might be a
Speaker 2: little higher than where we are, and so we're trying
Speaker 2: to keep our caddies to a price point that are
Speaker 2: affordable for everybody and not three four five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: or north of that. And so we are, you know,
Speaker 2: are constantly evolving and looking at things, and so you know,
Speaker 2: I think we're we're pretty you I think it's not
Speaker 2: in the not too distant future where yeah, you're going
Speaker 2: to see you know, being able to do all three
Speaker 2: modes you know, you know, one where you're walking and
Speaker 2: the but the caddies being powered and you're just there
Speaker 2: to help steer it remotely as well as a follow me.
Speaker 2: I think is in the you know, not too distant
Speaker 2: future where you can do all three modes very effectively
Speaker 2: seamlessly without you know, any you know, any hardship at all.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 3: Great, So let's wrap this up by telling us the
Speaker 3: different models that are available and they're us pricing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean our top of the line is
Speaker 2: our AI you know AI GPS Plus at retails for
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety five. That gives you the GPS screen that
Speaker 2: we were talking about that you would see it normally
Speaker 2: in a you know, golf cart, So that gives you
Speaker 2: your GPS yardages for all eighteen holes. Plus it's a
Speaker 2: stat tracking features and keeps your score and it really
Speaker 2: allows you to really keep all your information in one
Speaker 2: uh in one place because that we do have an
Speaker 2: m g I app and all that information that you
Speaker 2: put on that screen gets sent to the to our
Speaker 2: m g I app where it's stored and you can
Speaker 2: use as a you know, for future times and you know,
Speaker 2: keep keep records of how you play. Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 2: And that's a four wheel construction golf cart. So it
Speaker 2: really has kind of got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: It's very sturdy as well. It gives you all the
Speaker 2: tech features of of what you know of a GPS
Speaker 2: then if you want to go to step down for
Speaker 2: that because you know, some a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of golfers do have a phone that has you know,
Speaker 2: eighteen burns or something like that on there. Hey, I
Speaker 2: don't need all that you know. Of course, we do
Speaker 2: have the navigator at which is retails at a fifteen
Speaker 2: ninety five price point, and that also is a four
Speaker 2: wheel construction caddy and gives you all the gives you
Speaker 2: all the other benefits and features just without the GPS
Speaker 2: unit on top of it will give you your speed, battery power,
Speaker 2: It will log your miles and how far you actually walk,
Speaker 2: so you can really do get a get a sense
Speaker 2: of how how far you're walking with the caddy and
Speaker 2: you know, throughout the throughout golf.
Speaker 3: So that's it's total miles. It's like an O dometer.
Speaker 3: It's not lack, but you know, it just doesn't tell
Speaker 3: me what I did on this.
Speaker 2: Well, you do have two other settings, so there's they'll
Speaker 2: give you three settings. One's a total and then then
Speaker 2: you have like a trip A, a trip B, so
Speaker 2: you do where you can kind of say, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: just curious how far this you know, how far I'm
Speaker 2: walked today, And so you're able to log those exclusively.
Speaker 2: But there is a you know, a total dometer as well.
Speaker 4: Oh I gotta figure that one out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can email me and I'll tell you
Speaker 2: how to do it, okay, And then our navigator, which
Speaker 2: is our next one down for that also remote control,
Speaker 2: that's at fourteen ninety five. But the only the only
Speaker 2: difference between that and at is the front end where
Speaker 2: it's a three a three wheel construction, not a four wheel.
Speaker 2: So if you're not in the golf, if you're not
Speaker 2: in an area that has so much uh, you know,
Speaker 2: so much incline or anything which is a little more
Speaker 2: flat or terrain, you know, the navigators are great, a
Speaker 2: great unit for us. So we've so we offer that
Speaker 2: at fourteen ninety five, and those are what we call
Speaker 2: our remote models, meaning that they are all remote controls,
Speaker 2: and we do offer three others that are what we
Speaker 2: call non remote. They are walking assists where they are
Speaker 2: battery powered, but they you know, for the people that
Speaker 2: are a little more a little more hesitant with attack,
Speaker 2: and one of yeah, keep some control of the caddies.
Speaker 2: We do have it. You know, a ZIP the ZIP
Speaker 2: series has an X five and X three in an
Speaker 2: X one. Our X five's at ten ninety nine and
Speaker 2: that actually has a you know, downhill speed control and
Speaker 2: hill breaking capability, and that starts at ten ninety nine.
Speaker 2: And then then our X three is at eight ninety nine,
Speaker 2: which is our which is our X three that is
Speaker 2: very you know, same footprint as the X five, just
Speaker 2: without the speed control, speed control, and hill breaking. Again
Speaker 2: if you're in one of those flatter areas that just
Speaker 2: don't you don't need all that all that uh, you know,
Speaker 2: all that help. And then our X one is really
Speaker 2: what we call our entry level you know, base model
Speaker 2: for someone who's just looking for something to get from
Speaker 2: pointing to point B, no frills, no nothing, that's our
Speaker 2: six ninety nine option.
Speaker 4: Okay, very good, very good, Thank you for doing that.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked so many times about people
Speaker 3: getting nervous about spending a lot of money on a putter,
Speaker 3: And come on, really, you're gonna spend a lot of
Speaker 3: money on a driver and not on a putter.
Speaker 4: I just don't understand it.
Speaker 3: Think about what is more important to your game, what's
Speaker 3: going to lower your score? So you're gonna spend more
Speaker 3: money on a putter. Now we hear these numbers that
Speaker 3: you've just given us, ranging from six ninety nine to
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety five.
Speaker 4: Amortize that, folks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a lot of money on the upfront,
Speaker 3: no question about it. But think about the life you're
Speaker 3: gonna if you use this for easily ten years, yeah,
Speaker 3: if not longer, sure right, think about what you're saving
Speaker 3: and the health benefits of allowing you to walk. That's
Speaker 3: really the bottom line sales point on this is that
Speaker 3: if you enjoy walking, you like walking, you need to walk,
Speaker 3: You really should be walking. This is gonna help, absolutely,
Speaker 3: It's make life a little easier and a little more
Speaker 3: fun and give you a conversation piece.
Speaker 2: I think what you do is what I see a
Speaker 2: lot of times when we do you know, a golf course,
Speaker 2: Might you know get introduced to our products and they
Speaker 2: bring it in for the first time. It always seems
Speaker 2: to start with one person that hey, hey, I got
Speaker 2: mister Jones here, you know, was interested in your mg
Speaker 2: I and we bring it in with him. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, his buddies, his buddies are calling and you know,
Speaker 2: looking for it as well. And then you know, other
Speaker 2: members see it on a golf course and it really
Speaker 2: does organically grow, you know, club the club, and so
Speaker 2: it's we've just watched this, you know, really spread from Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm doing it for myself, but then they're they're
Speaker 2: friends doing it, and I'll be honest, and you've, I know,
Speaker 2: you've done this, you know. The four you know, four
Speaker 2: of you walking together playing golf is a great you know,
Speaker 2: it's a great experience because you do, you talk a
Speaker 2: lot more. You're getting involved more socially that way, rather
Speaker 2: than being in a cart where you're you're really you're
Speaker 2: literally you know, you're not saying a word to anybody
Speaker 2: until you get to the green and and then you're
Speaker 2: off again.
Speaker 3: And so it immediately comes to my mind, is apocalypse
Speaker 3: now and those helicopters and you hear this the theme
Speaker 3: of flight to the Valcerries. I can just imagine being
Speaker 3: on a playing with a force and that all have
Speaker 3: the electric carts and the music.
Speaker 2: Surely turns their heads. I mean, especially five years ago
Speaker 2: when we first started. I remember, you know, someone seeing
Speaker 2: this thing going down the fairway and they just what
Speaker 2: is that? You know, just never seen it before.
Speaker 4: But you know, I understand it's a new Olympic sport.
Speaker 4: For twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Years, super right cart race, it's been fun.
Speaker 4: Wise, No, you can have a little you know.
Speaker 2: I know, things like that. I think you're onto some friend.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think we got some well and when I was
Speaker 3: when I first brought it out, one of my friends realized,
Speaker 3: one guy's carrying his bag, one guy's got a push cart,
Speaker 3: and I've got the electric one.
Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, no tech, low tech, high tech,
Speaker 4: high tech, all right with the high tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, thank you. Sure they're jealous.
Speaker 4: So mg dot com or in the United States, go.
Speaker 2: To get WWUSTMGI golf dot com.
Speaker 3: And also you can find lots more information about them
Speaker 3: on Instagram and Facebook. Just look up MGI Golf. If
Speaker 3: you're in the United States, go to MGI Golf North America.
Speaker 3: But you can just find things at MGI Golf and
Speaker 3: you're going to find everything you need to know. Billy,
Speaker 3: this has really been fascinating and I really appreciate the
Speaker 3: opportunity to try this out. You got me talking about
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole, man, You got me hooked on this thing.
Speaker 3: I'm really starting to enjoy it a lot more. Every
Speaker 3: round I'm playing and I'm getting better with it, and
Speaker 3: it feels like a new skill set on the golf course.
Speaker 2: Awesome, Bet, thank you so much. This is enjoyable. Thank you.
Speaker 4: So here's the deal.
Speaker 3: MGI Golf has generously offered me to try two different
Speaker 3: models of their electric caddties over the last few months.
Speaker 3: I've now tested the Zip navigator at and more recently
Speaker 3: they're navigat AI GPS plus that has built in GPS,
Speaker 3: a cell phone sized full color touch screen that shows
Speaker 3: a graphic of the entire hole and front, middle back
Speaker 3: of the green. It keeps one person's score and is
Speaker 3: even Bluetooth enabled so that you can tuck your phone
Speaker 3: in your bag and if any calls or messages need attention, it.
Speaker 4: Lets you know.
Speaker 3: Now, being a tech geek, I was pretty excited to
Speaker 3: see how well, I could incorporate the touch screen and
Speaker 3: data into my round and it's not bad. I still
Speaker 3: have to keep running amounts on a scorecard because I
Speaker 3: generally keep everyone scored during the round, and because I
Speaker 3: still use a shot scope, watch, a rangefinder for exact
Speaker 3: distance of the hole, and tags on my clubs to
Speaker 3: analyze my data after the round, it's kind of redundant.
Speaker 3: There is a learning curve that includes driving the cart
Speaker 3: via remote control that's kind of fun too. So I'm
Speaker 3: still trying to decide which unit I'm going to purchase
Speaker 3: because what I've found to be the three biggest benefits
Speaker 3: make it a slam dunk to keep one one. Both
Speaker 3: of these caddies fold up pretty small to keep in
Speaker 3: the back of my car, might even be a little
Speaker 3: smaller than the clickgear pushcart that I've used forever. Second,
Speaker 3: it makes the walk much much easier. Do you realize
Speaker 3: that approximately thirty four point five percent of all golf
Speaker 3: related injuries have to do with the back. That's why
Speaker 3: I've never been able to carry a bag during a
Speaker 3: round and always relied on a push cart and now
Speaker 3: an electric caddy. But for me, the greatest benefit is
Speaker 3: when I've hit a ball that goes into the trees
Speaker 3: or the tall rough, and it does happen on a
Speaker 3: regular every round, and then you find yourself walking twenty
Speaker 3: to thirty yards back and forth searching for the ball
Speaker 3: inside the tall grass. And then I finally find it,
Speaker 3: I can call the caddy back to me with the
Speaker 3: remote control, which not only saves unnecessary walking, it saves
Speaker 3: a lot of wasted time.
Speaker 4: And let me also say their customer service is fantastic.
Speaker 4: I've had some issues with syncing my iPhone with the
Speaker 4: GPS Plus and they've been extremely helpful, friendly and attentive
Speaker 4: to my issues.
Speaker 3: So I continue to emphasize the importance of walking the course,
Speaker 3: and if you can justify amortizing the cost over a
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years of playing more golf, at least
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years, it's well worth your investigation. Now,
Speaker 3: I haven't talked about Golf Smarter Mulligans in a while,
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Speaker 5: I've had clients come in and say, you know why
Speaker 5: I should be I practice all the time.
Speaker 2: You know I should be able to repeat this.
Speaker 5: You know I should be able to hit a bunker
Speaker 5: shot or a pitch shot, or hit a t shot
Speaker 5: like Tyer woods. I mean I had people say that,
Speaker 5: and I said, you know what if you told about
Speaker 5: the Tyer Woodsey punch in.
Speaker 2: The face right now?
Speaker 5: Why because he's one of the world's greatest athletes and
Speaker 5: he spends about five thousand percent more time working on
Speaker 5: his game than you, And why in the world would
Speaker 5: you deserve to hit it like Ken.
Speaker 2: We talked about this before.
Speaker 5: You know, golf's not about who hits the best, it's
Speaker 5: about who misses it the least. People have to understand
Speaker 5: that in a coaching environment, if you're open, you are
Speaker 5: going to perform at a much highigher level, and you
Speaker 5: should do that immediately. But to own it and take
Speaker 5: it to the course and stand there with half the
Speaker 5: people in your club membership looking at you and rip
Speaker 5: it down the fairway just like.
Speaker 2: You coach is there.
Speaker 5: It's not going to happen until you deserve to have
Speaker 5: it happen. And that comes through that journey. And that's
Speaker 5: why golf is exciting because it takes a lot of
Speaker 5: hard work to play at a high level. It doesn't
Speaker 5: take a lot of hard work or to experience great
Speaker 5: ball flight, but it takes a lot of hard work
Speaker 5: to own that ball flight.
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