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Speaker 1: This is Rich Stilman from Saint John's, Florida, and I

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play golf at the King and the Bear Country Club,

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at the World Golf Village, and at the Naval Air

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Station in Jacksonville. In Jacksonville Course. This is Golf Smarter

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number nine to sixty six.

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Speaker 2: The research we've done and seen and been provided it

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unequivocally proves that walking is a much higher benefit to

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your health than sitting in a golf cart. And it

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can come from what caddy where you're just walking, or

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are you pushing, or you're carrying your own bag. We've

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actually seen some research that has shown that even just

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walking with an electric caddy, you're burning as much, if

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not more than carrying your bag or pushing a cart

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because of the benefits of what goes on with your back.

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If you're pushing a cart, you're in a posture that's

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not very natural either because depending on the hills or

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how the ground, if it's very soft and wet, your

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posture can be almost somewhat horizontal to the ground because

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where you're pushing the really benefits for austin, especially for

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the like acaddies, as you're literally taking a walk, so

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you do feel fresher, You do feel different.

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Speaker 3: Walking a course just got easier, and the health benefits

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are substantial.

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Speaker 4: With Billy Holbrook of MGI Golf, this.

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Speaker 5: Is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great

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golf minds to help you lower your score and raise

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your golf IQ.

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Speaker 4: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Billy, Hey, Fred, nice to see you, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be an interesting one because I've

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always talked about how I like to walk a golf course.

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That walking a golf course for me is a way

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that I can remember the golf course. Because I noticed

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that when I'm in when I'm in a cart, when

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i'm driving, it's I don't remember things about the golf course, right.

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Speaker 2: Shame the same here unless it's like an extremely unique

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course or something that's just you know, top of the line,

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you know a place that you've seen, you know, or

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you've seen on TV. But you're right, if I play

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well on the cart, so you know, I could be

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on the seventh hole and says remember on number two

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when you sit there, and like Jesus, I don't even

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remember number two, I'd like, I'll explain that again, and like,

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that's so strange that that was only forty minutes ago,

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but yet it was hard again, maybe something about our age.

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Who knows, I might say something about our age here.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well I hope not, I know.

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Speaker 3: But the other part of it is like, you know,

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when you're in a cart, you're just talking to somebody,

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so you hit.

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Speaker 4: The ball, drive to the ball, hit the ball, drive

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to the ball.

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Speaker 3: Correct, and it's just like, you know, and then there's

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nowadays people have music in the cart, and it's like

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it's not Yeah, I'm out here to be out here, right,

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and I want to do this, and I enjoy the walk.

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I enjoy the wildlife, you know, if they're lucky enough

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to have any other than just bird, you know, things

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flying around out there. But so I've advocated for a

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long time that people should be walking. And what I've

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really noticed lately there's more and more people in carts

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driving in carts, and they're young people.

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Speaker 4: These are people who can walk. Yeah, but I think

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they're drinking too much.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure that has a little bit to do

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with it. And I think, you know, unfortunately, the way

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the America has, you know, the American golf business has

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been run for you know, the last thirty forty years.

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Golf courses have been designed for carts, meaning you know,

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the green to the next team may not be right

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next to it. So I would say, you know, from

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forty years past, you'll be able to see a more

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walkable golf course. That's something that's a little bit older.

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But the modern design of golf courses has really made

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it where the green to the next team might not

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be and I'm sure you can, you know, testify this.

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It could be four hundred yards away to the next

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tee and so some a lot of times, you know,

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I've gone to so many courses where they would say

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the car path, the length of the cart path just

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to give to the play eighteen holes is sometimes over

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nine miles long just to get around. And that's a

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long that's a long that's a long walk if you

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if you wanted to do that. But I think if

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we were just talking, and I think you hit it

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right on the head. Walking really it does bring out

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a more rhythmic way to play right where I think,

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you know, everyone when I talk to it's like boy,

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when I do walk or if I take it, if

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I'm lucky to take you know, a caddy with me,

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I just do. I do play a lot better because

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it's a more It's paced so much easier. You hit

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a ball, you're not rushing right to the you know,

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not a cart rushing to your next shot. That time

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you're taking to get to that shot, you're you're able

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to think about things, experience and things, you know, seeing

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views right rather than you know, ten seconds later you're

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at your shot waiting for the green to clear or

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something like that. It is a much it's a much

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better paced way to play. Everyone, everyone plays better when

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they do walk. Now, you know, we are in the

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society that time is you know, time is valuable, and hey,

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if I can get around faster with a cart, you know,

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they that's the perception you get. But I think we've

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been able to really do a lot of research and

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do some things where if four of you are walking

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and four of you are on a golf cart, it's

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literally within a minute or two difference in how how

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long it takes to play.

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah, the timing. You know, people think

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that they're speeding things up, but they're not really.

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Speaker 2: No they're not really, and it really does depending on

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the pace of how it is in front of you.

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it's yeah, it's it's gonna be four fifteen, it's gonna

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be four to fifteen if you're taking a cart and

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rushing to the to your ball, or it's four fifteen

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in your walk. But we've done enough research where it

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is very, very very close to that because you've got

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to remember, Fred, you're taking you're in a cart with

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two people, you're going to the other your your apartment

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ball as well. So by the time all that is

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kind of put together, you're you're literally you know, you

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could take a straight line and get there just as effectively.

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Speaker 3: And then there's those days where you have the ninety

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degree rule or card path only, and probably nothing slows

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down around more than card path only.

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Speaker 2: Correct, It's it's uh yeah, I mean in my club

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here in Orlando, I mean, if if it's if they're

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not allowing cards, or if it's cart path only, I mean,

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it's just people don't play. I mean, it's just amazing.

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been able to really do a uh really helpful with

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a lot of that by you know, providing you caddies

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to to hey, here's here's another option for you, because

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it is, it is there's nothing worse than having to

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go back and forth from the car paths, especially you

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know on the opposite side of the car path. There's

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nothing worse. And then you know, and then you're like, god,

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I don't know how far it is. I'll bring my

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bag with me just you know, because I don't know

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what kind of shot I'm going to have. So it's uh, yeah,

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it does bring in a lot of extra work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a course to to of the courses that

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I play regularly, one of them it's like the end

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of the day is like you took twelve thousand steps today, Yeah,

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you know, eleven thousand steps and that's about a I

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guess a four and a half to five mile walk.

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Speaker 4: Which is great.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And then the other course has you know, like as

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one of my buddies says, like, if there's a fence,

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you got to go through it, right, and that's like

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a seventeen thousand step where we're almost walking over seven.

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Speaker 4: Miles on that and can get pretty warm of there.

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Speaker 3: And what I you know, the hardest thing that people

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get nervous about walking is the wheels, right yeah, not

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not having enough hydration, not having enough nutrition, and by

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the end of the round, they're just they're not holding it.

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Speaker 2: Together right quite back nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then they use that as their excuse is why

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they need to be sitting in a golf cart.

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Speaker 2: And I mean it's you can add that to anything.

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I mean, the more you do of something, you're just

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you're just going to get better at it. You know,

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with any type of exercise, you you know, the first

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first few times you do it, yeah, it might struggle

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a little bit, but after a while, it's you're you're

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actually benefiting yourself to push push yourself through those eighteen holes.

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You will get better at it and healthier obviously.

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Speaker 4: And how long have you been playing golf?

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Speaker 2: Uh? I was probably a nine, probably nine, so yeah,

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well over forty years.

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Speaker 4: So did you were you introduced to golf as a walker?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you carried your bag. I Uh, I

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was a member at a nine hole course in Connecticut

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and I was the first junior member they ever had,

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up to the club, played thirty six holes every day.

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never took a cart the day. I don't think they'd

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allow me to because I was too young. But you know, yeah,

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it was that was just you know, what you did

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every day. But yeah, absolutely, we all we all, you know,

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for the most part, we all were introduced that way,

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you know, walking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as that kid, were you like, Okay, this

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is going to be my life.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be in the golf business.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, not at that age. I think

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it took a little while. I've been with it. You know,

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I've been in the golf business really since through high

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school and I kind of I kind of felt like, hey,

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I want to do something I'm I feel like I'm

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pretty good at or I have a passion for. So

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it always that kind of kept me focused in staying

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in the in the business. I think I wanted to

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be a player, you know, professionally for a while, made

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the play played at Methodist College. It's a Division three school.

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They were very you know, very very successful. But I

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always thought I was going to be you know, I

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wanted to play and then it kind of worked from

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being a player into maybe being a professional golfer, you know,

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teaching and running a golf shop that then morphed into

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becoming a rep for the past twenty five years, and

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then let into this opportunity about six years ago. So

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so yeah, I've kind of felt like I've you know,

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been been part of the business for you know, quite

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people who feel that

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if I walk a golf course, I'm gonna I'm going

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to invite new pain aches and pains in my back

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because you know, I'm just not used to walking, or

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you know, it's easier for me to sit. I know

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that for me, sitting in a golf cart hurts my

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back more than walking it through and you know, being

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able to keep it loose.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 3: Are there studies are about the benefits of walking. There's

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Have they shown that it's a greater benefit for you

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as a golfer to walk.

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Speaker 2: It's almost I mean, the the research that we've done

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and seen and been provided, it's it's one hundred percent.

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I mean, every unequivocally proves that walking is a much

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higher benefit to your health than sitting in a golf cart,

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no question. And it can come from you know, a caddy.

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some some you know, some research that has shown that

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even just walking with an electric caddy, you're you're burning

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carrying a bag or pushing a car because of the

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benefits of what goes on with your back. If you're

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pushing a cart, you're you're in a posture that's not

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very natural either because you know, depending on the hills

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or how how the the ground, if it's very soft

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and wet, I mean, your posture can be very almost

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almost somewhat horizontal to the ground because of what where

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you're pushing. So the the really benefits for us, and

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especially for electric caddies, is you're literally taking a walk.

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You're not having to put any under pressure on your

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back other than just you know how how you're going

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to walk. So we just feel that the you know

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that you do feel fresher, you do feel different, uh,

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and in the good you know, in the right way,

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so you're not having to have you know, all that,

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you know, because you're putting enough stress on your back

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swinging you don't need it, you know, carrying or pushing

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anything as well. So it is uh, you know, that's

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that's really kind of what we have been trying to provide.

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I think the overwhelming success of the electric caddies has

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just come from the global for what's happened globally. I mean,

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everyone that plays golf walks outside of the United States.

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Speaker 4: It is is there right.

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Speaker 2: Ninety eight percent of the people that play golf outside

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the United States will be walking in some respects. So

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the electric caddies or any type of vehicle that's to

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help you has really taking a is such a you know,

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is really the culture of that outside of the United

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States is pretty well baked in everywhere. So it's just

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taken a little taken a little quite a while for

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it to happen in the United States. But you know what,

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since COVID and this influx of new golfers, it is

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really the demand for it and just people seeing the

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benefits of you know, doing something differently because the tech

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and innovations there has really become you know, is really

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taken shape and organically has grown our degree, uh you know, twentyfold.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, Yeah, and you are there. So there are statistics

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that are showing that more and more people in the

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US are walking versus the rest of the world, which

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has been walking the course all the time.

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Speaker 2: So our research was you know, and I think it

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really is. It's hard to say, because hard to say,

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but we've gotten to a point where I've I've seen

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things around thirty five percent or higher do walk exclusively.

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And I think a lot of people would you know

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what I hear when I go around talking to a

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lot of people and a lot of these consumer shows

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and wherever, people would rather walk if they had a

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better way to do it. So I think I think

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innovation has got us to a point where people are

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starting to think about, hey, I can actually do this

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without you know, so much pain or you know or fatigue. Uh,

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there is a there are better ways now to be

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able to do it. So, you know, what we've been

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able to do the last four or five years is

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create a vehicle for someone to take take a walk

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and play golf without you know, any of the ancillary

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issues that you might have if you were used to

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carrying a carrying your bag or pushing in a golf cart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's kind of we've been teasing this the

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whole time. So Billie obviously works for a company called

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MGI that creates electric carts. Yes, and I've again, I've

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always tried to walk. I've never carried my bag for

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more than nine holes, and even when I did nine holes,

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it like wasn't great. And so I've used push carts

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for long for the entire time I've played golf. Yeah,

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and I noticed that, you know, living in northern California,

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we have a lot of courses that have a tremendous

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amount of undulation. And I don't mean on the greens,

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I mean the walk itself. We can go through, you know,

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four hundred feet of elevation chain throughout. I played Chambers

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Bay recently in Oregon. In Washington, great spot, and it's

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an over it's what seven point two mile walk with

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a tremendous amount of elevation change going on as law,

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and it's all walking, it's all walk carts, a lot

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of walking, but you have a caddy carry in your bag.

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Speaker 4: And so I've had the opportunity to try out.

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Speaker 3: One of your mg I cards and now I'm like

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intrigued about even going higher tech with it, and I've

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really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: There is a learning curve.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, And I think you know that. I

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think that's part of our you know, part of our

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your motivation to you know, with with innovation to make

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it as user friendly as possible, right, I mean, I

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think that's just like in anything, it's uh, the more

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you can make it easier to use and make you know,

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have it, you know, do the most it can do

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is a big is a big part. It's always the

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challenge because I think people our age, I think some

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of us get very intimidated by new technology sometimes with

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if it's a phone, if it's a computer or whatever.

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But I you know what I try to instill when

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I talk to someone who's going to use it. Well,

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one of our caddies for a long time is it.

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I was like, you need about two to three minutes

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in your driveway, just get used to it in your

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driveway with if you're using our remote control caddy, you'll

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get it. You'll get it, you know, figured out pretty quickly.

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And it's funny when I when I talk to like

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a twenty one year old about it, they get it.

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They get a hang of it within you know, within

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a few seconds. But it's like in or younger. But

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for for people our age, we're used to a certain

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cadence of how things are and you know, hitting this button,

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hitting that button, what it's supposed to do. I think

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we just you know, sometimes have to be you know

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a little you know, relearn it a little bit. But

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I but as I said, we've got videos, we've done

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all these things too, just to kind of go, hey,

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it's not we're not splitting atoms here, it's there's a

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there is a simple method to it. And then within

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a couple of minutes, yeah, you've you've got a pretty

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well handled.

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Speaker 4: I'd call it a couple of rounds.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty tech savvy, Yeah, I kind of gravitate towards

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new tech all the time, especially on the phones and

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computers and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So this one has always intrigued me.

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Speaker 3: But I kept my arms distance because I think many

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years ago I tried one once and it was just

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you know, I didn't have a chance to practice with it.

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Speaker 4: I just took it.

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Speaker 3: Out on a course and it's like, I'm overwhelmed with this.

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This is a bit much. Sure, so I really appreciate

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the fact that I've been had the ability to test

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one out. You guys let me test one for a month.

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And I live next to a golf course, so on

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a day it was closed, I got to take it

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out and walk around with it, like, oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I can do. This is going to

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be that tough.

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Speaker 3: And again, it's a little distracting when you first get started.

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Speaker 4: It is a learning curve.

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Speaker 3: You do have to get used to it. But once

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you get used to it, it's like, why have I

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not been doing this before? The walk has definitely become easier.

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And so the first time I went out, the first

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round I did, I tipped it over twice. I'm like, okay, well,

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you know, if that's how this thing works, then I'm

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going to have to figure this out. Second round only

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rolled it one time. Okay, I'm getting better at this.

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Rounds three through six didn't turn it over, right. I

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started learning how to like, okay, slow it down here, Yeah,

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it doesn't really you know, curbs, you got to help

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it when you go up and down a curb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's kind of the I've tried to

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and there's a there's a nuance to that as well.

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I kind of some people, you know, sometimes they take

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it almost too slow over a bump. But I'm kind

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of like, you know, when you're on a on a car,

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and if you go over railroad tracks, the faster you go,

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it doesn't it smooth out a little bit more than

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if you slow down and go over a track. It

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kind of you absorb a lot more of the bumps

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that way.

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Speaker 4: Right, But you're not worried about your car tipping over.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not worried about your car tip it over.

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Speaker 3: And you know you don't go over if you go

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over a bump and you're not at you know, perpendicular

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to it, you're on an angle.

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Speaker 4: There's a chance this thing's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be right, and then of course you know

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there's going to be a certain angle it's like, yeah,

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there's some danger there, stay stay away from it. But

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the nice thing about our caddies though, is we do

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have a gyroscope in there so as the cart if

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it's on the side of the hill and depending on

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the grade of the hill that we're talking about here,

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but it's always gonna it's always going to attrack straight

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for you, even if it's kind of been jostled around

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over bumps. The the caddy is always going to attrack

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straight because of the gyroscope. And that's been a very

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unique advantage that we've had out of other caddies, is

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because it does it does always, you know, go the

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way you wanted to, rather than having to keep you know,

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keep turning it left or turning it right to go

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in your area. It's always going to track where you

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wanted it to go initially anyways, So that's been a

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good part. But yeah, I've watched people tip over and

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most of the people they just kind of laughing, giggle

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and they put it back up and they you know,

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but yeah, within a couple I think I think it's

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just kind of learning to walk or whatever. Once you

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kind of do it once or twice, you learn and

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you know, and then it's then you're you're at it

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pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So I got to imagine that the technology of these,

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which you refer to as caddies all the time, and

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I'm calling it an electric cart, sure, but it's a

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it's a what if you can imagine a push cart

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that you don't have to push correct it pushes.

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Speaker 2: And I hear that all the time, and it's I've

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dealt with it because it's like in an electric push card.

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I'm like, if it's electric, it's not a push cart.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, So buggies, trolleys, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trolley's it's but it's a UK term for it

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be a trolley, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's yeah, a few terms that are used.

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We use caddies because it is because really what the

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role of that unit is is really to be a

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caddy for you. So we've always considered.

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute, can you did I miss something

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in the technology that it reads putts for me too?

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Speaker 2: Not yet not yeah, hey, but innovations always is always,

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uh ever changing, so you never know.

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Speaker 3: Well, now you've got some news that have GPS built

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into it and a screen. You have a touchscreen on

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there that you can hook up Bluetooth for your phone.

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So even if your course doesn't allow phones, which I

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played one last week.

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Speaker 4: It's like you don't allow phones, Yeah, you don't allow shorts.

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Wait a minute, where am I here?

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Speaker 2: What are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in a real old school.

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Speaker 3: In eighteen ninety seven, you know established course that keeps

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those rules.

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Speaker 5: But.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you can have your phone if you

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get a text message that comes up on the screen

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on your caddy. I'm going to use the word caddy

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if you can get used to that and other technologies.

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So it's it's really advancing quickly and updating quickly what's

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going on with the latest technology on your machines.

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Speaker 2: So I think we are as innovation is always changing.

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I think, you know, electronics is a is a It

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was a a a really interesting category to be and

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especially in golf because, uh, you know, before I came

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on board with m G, I I was with you know,

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some uh golf companies and hard good sales where you

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changed every year, you know, something new happened, happened every year.

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And then I got to this category and we really

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for up until about a year ago, things were you

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wouldn't change the caddy, and change the caddy for five years.

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00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,799
It did, it did what it was supposed to do.

475
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,480
Then we've kind of started to realize we were able

476
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,559
to get some things integrated with the caddy itself to

477
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:41,480
allow you know, other you know, other offerings to have

478
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,640
things on you know, on the caddy. So now you're

479
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,759
you're talking about our GPS unit, which is you know,

480
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,720
I try to explain to them, it's to a golfer

481
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:53,000
is like if if you see what if you're on

482
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,880
a golf cart and you see the GPS screen that

483
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,480
you have that you see on the golf cart, you

484
00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,200
literally got a four and a half inch screen packed

485
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,319
into your top box that does the exact same you know,

486
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,400
gives you the exact same benefits and features that you

487
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:07,839
see on the golf cart.

488
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,279
Speaker 3: So it's which is great because you know, so many

489
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,720
of us now are using apps that we either purchase

490
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,599
or down there to our phone for free that give

491
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,720
us an overview of the hole and this way, and

492
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,839
I don't know why, as much of a geek as

493
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:28,200
I am, I've always kind of shied away from pulling

494
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000
out my phone. Now, if I'm wearing a watch and

495
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,319
it gives me that information, that's great, and I'll use

496
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,839
a rangefinder so I can see the distance to the pin.

497
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,039
Speaker 4: But sometimes you just need to.

498
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: See an overview of the hole of where you're standing

499
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,759
to where the flag is, what your hazards are going

500
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,559
to be. So having that just in front of you

501
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:53,640
as you're walking. Is really a big difference that I

502
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720
didn't think that I would go, Yeah, I don't need that.

503
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:58,960
I've got all these other apps and things that I'm doing.

504
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,319
But it's like, oh, wait a minute, I know if

505
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,480
I can eliminate all those things and just have it

506
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:05,440
in front of me as I'm riding or walking along

507
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,240
the cart the caddy.

508
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,519
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know the car, the caddy, the push.

509
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: Card, and I know what you're talking about.

510
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: So it sounds like a gadget.

511
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:19,799
Speaker 3: You know the mechanics, and I guess so. So the

512
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:25,799
new innovations as far as GPS and Bluetooth being incorporated

513
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,039
into this, those are really going to be helpful for

514
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,119
a lot of people. But the holy grail to me,

515
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,240
the holy grail of all tech, whether you're talking phones, tablets,

516
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:44,880
or caddies, like this is battery, sure, right, and so

517
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,599
these what I've noticed is this it's a rechargeable battery.

518
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: It's not that heavy, but.

519
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: It's not light, yeah, and it adds adds to the

520
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,680
weight of the thing. I could definitely see if I

521
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:02,240
was a member of a golf course and they could

522
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,720
just keep it there and they'll charge it for me

523
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,559
and have it ready for me and my bag when

524
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:07,079
I pull up.

525
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,039
Speaker 4: That would be awesome.

526
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:13,519
Speaker 3: Yea, and I and I've played various private courses around

527
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,240
here and they're like, oh yeah, everybody's starting.

528
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 4: To use these mg I caddies, you know, and more.

529
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: And I know that you guys probably sell them as

530
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,119
fleets to courses as well, right.

531
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's becoming. That's really, without a doubt, probably

532
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,720
our largest the largest increase in our businesses. You know

533
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:34,599
the fact that courses are starting to see the revenue

534
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,160
opportunity there, especially with people that like to walk or

535
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440
have a desire to walk in you know, with their

536
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,079
you know, with their membership, and so some places will

537
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,759
start with just a few and all of a sudden

538
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:49,880
you've seen them grow and grow and grow. They start

539
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,759
with four and now they got twenty four and in

540
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,319
summer even more than that. So it's uh, yeah, I

541
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,440
think and that's been a great tool for us for

542
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,200
people to even try, because then they might maybe they

543
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,160
just say, hey, I'd rather just get my own personal one,

544
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,200
or you know, they get the and you know, they

545
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
get the experience of walking and how much better it is.

546
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,839
You're right, once you start walking again, you just feel

547
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,920
better about playing anyway. So some some courses maybe just

548
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,799
rather have the rental fleet opportunity for them to provide

549
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,119
to the course to the course rather than letting their

550
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,720
members bring their own you know, we kind of work

551
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:28,359
both ways with those yeah.

552
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the part about the battery.

553
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,759
Speaker 4: Yes, which interesting.

554
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,319
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me, like, so, how many rounds can you

555
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440
get out of out of this battery? And I'm like,

556
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,359
I don't know, because I'm kind of nervous about not

557
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,799
charging it every time because I don't want it to

558
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,119
run out. Yeah, while I'm in the middle of a round,

559
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:54,440
that could be a problem.

560
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,559
Speaker 2: Well for sure, if you yeah, that would be you know,

561
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,720
that would certainly be a problem. I think, you know,

562
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,920
them has been a big you know, the lithium batteries

563
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,720
has been a big increase in in the quality and

564
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,119
the durability of a cart and how far it can

565
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,119
go because it's so much more efficient having having a

566
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,000
lithium battery. So what I try to tell people, because

567
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,880
I get asked that question every day, is you know,

568
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
how long can will this go? And and so we

569
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,400
guarantee thirty six holes? I would say, okay, guarantee it

570
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:30,079
guarantee it and I will, and I would say dependent

571
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,559
on your topography and elevation and where what you play,

572
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,519
how heavy a bag is. You know, I live here

573
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,400
in Florida where it's flat as flat, I mean I

574
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,160
can get fifty four holes, you know, really and still

575
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,519
have some left over in the in the battery to

576
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,680
go even a little bit farther. I mean that's kind

577
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
of why if you look on the screen, even with

578
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,960
the at we do have a battery indicator light that's

579
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,400
that's there, so you're never without you know, having a

580
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000
way to find how much battery life is left. So

581
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,880
you know, you shouldn't get be too surprised. I mean, hey,

582
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,559
maybe you want to try to push it or I

583
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:10,119
mean push it meaning you're going to push the battery

584
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,720
life and see if I can get to squeeze in

585
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:16,480
these eighteen holes. More likely you can. Most people ask me, Willy,

586
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,559
what will happen if I if you know, if it

587
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,960
conks out of me on fourteen, what do you do?

588
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,640
And it's just like, look, you're not abandoning, you know.

589
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,839
If it's if the power goes out on it, it's

590
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,200
not like you're abanding it. Because if you notice when

591
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,359
you take the wheels, you know, take the wheels off

592
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,400
the axle. You got those little spokes that kind of

593
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,680
tie into the wheels. If you just take those off,

594
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,960
there's a there's two little rivets close to the end

595
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,759
of the axles. Those wheels can go there, and you're

596
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,839
just it turns into a push cart, you know, on

597
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:50,559
your way to there. So you're never yeah, you're not

598
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,640
like if you're on twelve, well then you know, just

599
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640
leave it there and get you know, have.

600
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,759
Speaker 4: Someonell a helicopter.

601
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,359
Speaker 2: Helicopter and fly it in or something. Well, you're just

602
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,319
you know, you take the wheels off, the off the

603
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:05,799
spokes that we have on the on the axles, and

604
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,319
it's and it's a push car.

605
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Well I did notice.

606
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that I really like

607
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,920
about it is that being able to take those wheels

608
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,119
off and reverse them, yeah, which I think is what

609
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680
you're talking about, and then being able to put it

610
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,480
in the back of the car.

611
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,319
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean you, Oh my gosh.

612
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,039
Speaker 3: I am so impressed at how compact it can become

613
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,400
once you know, fold it up, take that xtra couple

614
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440
of minutes. If you're taking it with you and be

615
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,039
able to fold it up and it just fits snugly

616
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:36,720
in the back there.

617
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: I was really impressed.

618
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've And that's another thing a lot of people

619
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,559
do ask when when they're, you know, looking at our

620
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,680
product for the first time, they're like, well, how do

621
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,960
you get it into the trunk or what does it

622
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,400
look like? And you know, when I fold it down

623
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640
for them, And then when you're talking about taking the

624
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200
wheels out and then inverting them and putting them in there,

625
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,480
I tell everybody, you can put this in the front

626
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,839
seat of your car and no problem, no problem. So

627
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,359
there's really not many trunks that I've seen, other than

628
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,279
some exotic European car that might not have a trunk

629
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,799
at all. But beyond that, it can really get into

630
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,759
any space that you really need. And that's what part

631
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:15,799
of the things why some of the courses like what

632
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,400
we're doing as well, is because you know, fully folded down,

633
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,279
it takes up very little space in the car barn

634
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:24,799
two or the storage area.

635
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,039
Speaker 3: I drive an electric car, okay, and it claims you

636
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,599
can get two hundred and eighty miles to a charge, right,

637
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,519
And the first time that I'm like, I got it.

638
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: It's like, let's take a road trip. Well, it was.

639
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,599
Speaker 3: Ninety degrees out. We ran the air conditioning the whole time.

640
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
We had a car full of stuff because we were

641
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,240
going traveling and I got two hundred miles.

642
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, like wait, what happened? You know?

643
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,279
Speaker 3: So there's so many factors involved in how but you're

644
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,480
saying I'll get thirty six holes on this.

645
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,119
Speaker 2: That's why we can't say any more than that. I

646
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,279
mean we really sure can say, you know, we can

647
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:09,240
guarantee you thirty six holes because because of all the factors.

648
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,440
And that's what I try to tell people is like, look,

649
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,240
if you live in a flat area, if your bag's

650
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200
not as you know, you're not putting forty dozen of

651
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:19,319
balls in your in your your golf bag and have

652
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,599
you know, twenty five clubs in there, and you put

653
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,720
your wardrobe in there, and you have an extra battery

654
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,359
you know, I mean all those things you consider how

655
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,839
long you're going to get up, you know you're going

656
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,960
to get in that with that battery life, it does

657
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:36,519
make a It does factor in. So I always tell people, look,

658
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,440
we'll guarantee thirty six holes, but you know, if you're

659
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,279
cognizant of the weight and you know, depending on the

660
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,559
topography of the course that you're playing, you're definitely going

661
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:48,680
to get more out of it. It's just you know,

662
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
we you know, you know, for us, we just want

663
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,599
to you know, we can say certainty you can get

664
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:55,519
thirty six holes.

665
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,839
Speaker 4: Okay, good? But what about weather condition?

666
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: So I mean, how we're talking about, you know, an

667
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,839
electronic piece here. Yeah, in in areas and even if

668
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,880
it's not raining and you're playing in the morning, the

669
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,840
ground could be very wet. Sure, how does this unit,

670
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,480
with all the technology involved, hold up in wet conditions?

671
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: So I always tell people the simplest way to do

672
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,159
it is like treat the caddy just like your phone.

673
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,280
You know, it can get wet. Don't take a shower

674
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,159
with it, don't jump in the pool, you know, with

675
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,159
the caddy, you know it will be it'll it'll go fine.

676
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,519
You got to remember, our companies companies out of Australia,

677
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,239
so the environment out there is even more extreme than

678
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,840
maybe what you'd find in certain spots here in the

679
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,280
United States. So the Caddies, you know, was designed and

680
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,679
built to deal with Australian weather initially, so the rain

681
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360
as well as the heat, all that is all that

682
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,800
is encompass seeing to when we put a put a

683
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:07,000
caddy together. Now granted this is lithium batteries, it's electric.

684
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,039
It doesn't go well with with a lot of water.

685
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Obviously water is it's kryptonite if it's been exposed too

686
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,400
much of it. But the way are the way our

687
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,760
caddies that are signed. If you if you look at

688
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,599
our caddie, it's very sleek. There's no exposed areas with

689
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,800
the with the wires, it's all enclosed in the aluminum

690
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,480
tubing that's there. We do a lot of work to

691
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,000
keep that, you know, to keep that as you know,

692
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:38,159
as safe as possible. Rain drizzle, we have really not

693
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,920
seen too much of of that, but if it is submerged,

694
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:46,760
you know, in a large puddle, lake, you know, river,

695
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960
those things, yeah, you got to you gotta pay attention

696
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,519
to those. But we've you know, we're going, you know,

697
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,320
we're advancing all the time. I mean, I think our

698
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,599
product development teams always looking for you know, other things,

699
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,920
and you know, you know, love to love to stand

700
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,000
here one day and say, hey, you could you know,

701
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,840
push this right into a lake and just pull it

702
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,360
back out and get going again. That would be that

703
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,679
would be an amazing thing to claim. You know, we're

704
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,880
clearly not there yet, but you know, we're doing a

705
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
lot of things technology wise that I think, you know,

706
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,239
over the next few years you're going to see some

707
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239
things that are really even going to make those little

708
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,199
troubled areas really come you know, really, you know, you

709
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,559
don't have to worry about that, you know too much anymore. So,

710
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:33,920
As I said, innovations always, always, always changing and improving

711
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,000
for this experience, because it's really Freds earlier we were

712
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,960
talking about, is you know, just enhancing the golf experience

713
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,800
that we want to we want on the golf course.

714
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you there are a couple of things

715
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,239
about it that I've just been the more I get

716
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,000
accustomed to having it in my life, that I'm pretty

717
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,679
blown away about. And uh, what I've noticed. First of all,

718
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
in the first couple of rounds, I wasn't being as

719
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,480
social as I can be on the golf course because

720
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,880
I was so focused on where the cart is and

721
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920
how it's doing and where it's going and things like

722
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,840
that that I was not talking to anybody but to

723
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,760
the remote control.

724
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: Right.

725
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,039
Speaker 4: That's getting better. I'm seeing open it's like, okay, there's

726
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:18,880
a fair way that I.

727
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,039
Speaker 3: Can go down here and just let it, let it go,

728
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,880
and it'll meet me there. I can get a sense

729
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,039
of when it's time for it to stop. Okay, I

730
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:31,280
can do that, and I'm able to talk. But my

731
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,559
favorite is, you know when you hit at inevitable errant

732
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,880
shot that the ball goes into an area that you're

733
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,440
gonna have to go looking for the ball?

734
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: How many times.

735
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,079
Speaker 3: If you are with a push cart or you know,

736
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,039
I'm not going to say, because people who carry their

737
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:52,400
bag maybe carry it at all times, but with you're

738
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,440
looking for the ball and you finally find it, but

739
00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:00,639
your cart is now twenty yards behind you right right,

740
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,039
having a remote control in your pocket where you can

741
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,719
just go, oh boy, you know, like come here now, doggie, righty,

742
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,320
and so being able to just like leave the cart

743
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,719
there and go the caddy there and say all right

744
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,599
now I need you come to me now.

745
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 4: Yep, that's great. Yeah, yeah, it saved a lot of

746
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,519
time for me.

747
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: That That is like, you know, the the ninety degree

748
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,719
rule goodbye forever type of thing, because it's always at

749
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,519
your beck and call yeah.

750
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,159
Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing. You know, it's like how

751
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,559
people use it, there's no you know, perfect way. You know.

752
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,360
Some people they'll they'll get it going and they want

753
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,119
it to kind of be right near them, you know,

754
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,039
the caddy. Other guys, as they walk, they send it

755
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,480
and there they send it to the ball as fast

756
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,800
as they can and stop it as close as they can.

757
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,599
So there's never been a I can't say there's a

758
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,960
perfect ideal way to use it. Some people like it

759
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,840
being very close by and almost as a companion, and others,

760
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,320
you know, they get it out there is as fast

761
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,199
as you as they can and then and they were

762
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,679
just walking with their their friends. But you know, the

763
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,480
way you said, it's like if you're sending it, you know,

764
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,639
you probably need to pay attention a little bit, you know.

765
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,920
I've I've even had the times where someone will you know,

766
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,719
distract me and start talking and all of a sudden,

767
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,599
I've seen its head towards a tree or something and

768
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,519
it's like, oh, hold on, I got a you know.

769
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:24,679
Speaker 3: Or a puddle or you know, yeah, drain. Yeah, all

770
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:26,239
of a sudden there's this drain that it rolled over.

771
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,360
It's like, wait, where did that get?

772
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,079
Speaker 2: Right? There's always a hole somewhere that you don't necessarily

773
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,599
see even though you know I've been you know, remember

774
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,079
at this club for so long, and then I went

775
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:38,239
into a hole. I was like, I'd never seen that before,

776
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,400
think what was going on? But but you're right. I

777
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,159
think there's just, uh, there's a lot of convenience to

778
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
you know, to having that with you, because I think

779
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,039
one of the biggest things that I see from people

780
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,440
is that, boy, it's really great. You know, I hit

781
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,360
a shot on the green, I can grab my potter

782
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,920
and I just send that, you know, I just send

783
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,320
it to the next tea without having to worry about

784
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840
anything where you know, if it's a it's if it's

785
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,719
a push card or something, you're either balancing it or

786
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,119
pushing it as far as way as you can this

787
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,760
you can put it. You send it right to the

788
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,039
next tee really without worrying about anything, and you're just

789
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,960
playing golf.

790
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about the remote control for a little bit.

791
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,199
Small remote control automatically hooks up to the unit and

792
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239
just as soon as you unplug it, you get a

793
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,880
little on the screen that I have it shows how

794
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,559
much battery life. So that's never an issue at all,

795
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:38,599
and it's pretty responsive. I have a lot of fun.

796
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,639
I mean, I've never flown drones before. I've always wanted

797
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:46,320
to a remote control airplanes. Uh, but you know, like

798
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,039
going down.

799
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,519
Speaker 4: A pathway as the pathway.

800
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: You know, wanders in and out and moves and turns,

801
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,360
and being able to get accustomed to the the remote

802
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,440
control and making those turns is kind of fun.

803
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: Well, it's like a little remote control car, it is.

805
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: That's what I kind of try to tell people. You

806
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,840
just you know, if everyone's given their kids a remote

807
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,079
control car, you know, in their lives, and it really

808
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,800
navigates very similar to that in a lot of ways.

809
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,159
I think, you know, we we we try to make

810
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,559
it as easy as possible because you know, your left

811
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,559
and your right and your backwards is all. When you

812
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,800
release the button, it stops or it stops doing that command,

813
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,519
and then.

814
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,639
Speaker 4: That's left, right and backwards correct and then forward.

815
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: We hit it once and it goes because the fact

816
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:35,760
is the last one you want you to do is

817
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,559
having the hole down the forward key the whole time,

818
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,440
because you're ninety eight percent of the time that's what

819
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,039
you're going to do anyway, So you hit it once

820
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,840
and it's going to go forward for you. And and

821
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,559
that's why the only time you really need to hit

822
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,480
the stop button is is when you get you get

823
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,480
you know, if the unit gets close to the ball

824
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,039
or when you want it to stop. That's where the

825
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,840
red stop button comes in. But outside of that, the

826
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,760
left and the right and the back where it once

827
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,760
you depress it, it'll it stops on commands, but the

828
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,760
forward key we keep it going forward because that's the

829
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,079
last you know, we don't want you to play eighteen

830
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,559
holes and having the whole your thumb pressed on the

831
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,840
remote the whole time that you're gonna have a sore thumb,

832
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,519
you know, after having to keep that down.

833
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:25,519
Speaker 4: It's new new set of blisters for you. Right. So Yeah.

834
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: One of the other things that I think is really

835
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,119
thoughtful in the design of this is that back small

836
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,079
stabilizer wheel that if you're if it's going up an

837
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:41,639
incline at all, it won't tip backwards because it's got

838
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,079
this extra wheel. And then when you're going downhill with

839
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:48,719
it it.

840
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't take off on you, no slows down.

841
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:55,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well that's been a big, big, uh, you know,

842
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,159
big design feature for us, especially in our remotes, is that. Yeah,

843
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:02,440
the downhill, downhill and as well as like up if

844
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,639
you needed to park it, it's not gonna even once

845
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:08,519
it breaks. It doesn't slide down either, so you have

846
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,639
the ability to really on those those hill you know conditions.

847
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,480
It doesn't run away, it doesn't slide back. It stays

848
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,159
in the consistent speed that you're looking for it to do.

849
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: Am I not getting this or is it not developed

850
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920
yet that maybe there's some sort of I guess a

851
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,559
beacon put in the remote control so that the caddy can.

852
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 4: Just follow you without you pressing any button.

853
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going on the rabbit hole with that one, Fred.

854
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,000
So it's uh, we got this kind of time.

855
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 4: This is episode nine hundred and sixty six. You want

856
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,360
to talk about rabbit holes, you.

857
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Need another hour to just talk about that. Now. Look,

858
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,039
I think we've we are you know, we're the number

859
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,280
one manufacturer of electric caddies in the in the world,

860
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,039
that especially in the United States, And we've always felt

861
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:06,639
and believed that the caddy should be in front of you.

862
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:09,719
So we've we've always felt that the caddy being in

863
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,639
front of you is the ideal way to play, because

864
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:15,239
if it's behind you, what happens. Towels fall off, it

865
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,000
could run into other other people, head covers fall off.

866
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,440
You've got to go over bridges. How does that work

867
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,280
to get to make sure it's going over properly? There's

868
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,480
a lot of things that behind you that and you

869
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,000
just don't see, and you know, and your can.

870
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: Pay attention to a lot of pay.

871
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: You get up to your ball and the caddy is

872
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,800
somewhere two hundred yards behind you later.

873
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: What happened here? Now, with that being said, I think

874
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,239
the demand for the following technology is to a point

875
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,760
where it's it's something that I think you will it

876
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,679
has been done. We've the technology. We don't feel perfected yet,

877
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:56,559
but they're very very close. Uh there's some companies have

878
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:58,800
done a very good job with it, but I think

879
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,320
they've We see that the price point might be a

880
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,440
little higher than where we are, and so we're trying

881
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,239
to keep our caddies to a price point that are

882
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,440
affordable for everybody and not three four five thousand dollars

883
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:15,440
or north of that. And so we are, you know,

884
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,400
are constantly evolving and looking at things, and so you know,

885
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,440
I think we're we're pretty you I think it's not

886
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,480
in the not too distant future where yeah, you're going

887
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,719
to see you know, being able to do all three

888
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,159
modes you know, you know, one where you're walking and

889
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,639
the but the caddies being powered and you're just there

890
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,840
to help steer it remotely as well as a follow me.

891
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,800
I think is in the you know, not too distant

892
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,119
future where you can do all three modes very effectively

893
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,800
seamlessly without you know, any you know, any hardship at all.

894
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: Great.

895
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,079
Speaker 3: Great, So let's wrap this up by telling us the

896
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,119
different models that are available and they're us pricing.

897
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean our top of the line is

898
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,440
our AI you know AI GPS Plus at retails for

899
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,960
eighteen ninety five. That gives you the GPS screen that

900
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,400
we were talking about that you would see it normally

901
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,320
in a you know, golf cart, So that gives you

902
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,000
your GPS yardages for all eighteen holes. Plus it's a

903
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:20,440
stat tracking features and keeps your score and it really

904
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:25,000
allows you to really keep all your information in one

905
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,599
uh in one place because that we do have an

906
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,400
m g I app and all that information that you

907
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,239
put on that screen gets sent to the to our

908
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,360
m g I app where it's stored and you can

909
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,639
use as a you know, for future times and you know,

910
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,679
keep keep records of how you play. Yeah, and that's it.

911
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,000
And that's a four wheel construction golf cart. So it

912
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,639
really has kind of got the best of both worlds.

913
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:55,440
It's very sturdy as well. It gives you all the

914
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,440
tech features of of what you know of a GPS

915
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,880
then if you want to go to step down for

916
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,079
that because you know, some a lot of a lot

917
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,639
of golfers do have a phone that has you know,

918
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,239
eighteen burns or something like that on there. Hey, I

919
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,039
don't need all that you know. Of course, we do

920
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,159
have the navigator at which is retails at a fifteen

921
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,400
ninety five price point, and that also is a four

922
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,920
wheel construction caddy and gives you all the gives you

923
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,760
all the other benefits and features just without the GPS

924
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,440
unit on top of it will give you your speed, battery power,

925
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,719
It will log your miles and how far you actually walk,

926
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,440
so you can really do get a get a sense

927
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,320
of how how far you're walking with the caddy and

928
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,119
you know, throughout the throughout golf.

929
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,559
Speaker 3: So that's it's total miles. It's like an O dometer.

930
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:47,000
It's not lack, but you know, it just doesn't tell

931
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:47,960
me what I did on this.

932
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: Well, you do have two other settings, so there's they'll

933
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,639
give you three settings. One's a total and then then

934
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,840
you have like a trip A, a trip B, so

935
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,000
you do where you can kind of say, hey, I'm

936
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,519
just curious how far this you know, how far I'm

937
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:03,760
walked today, And so you're able to log those exclusively.

938
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,239
But there is a you know, a total dometer as well.

939
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,599
Speaker 4: Oh I gotta figure that one out.

940
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:11,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can email me and I'll tell you

941
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:14,280
how to do it, okay, And then our navigator, which

942
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,239
is our next one down for that also remote control,

943
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,519
that's at fourteen ninety five. But the only the only

944
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:22,840
difference between that and at is the front end where

945
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,079
it's a three a three wheel construction, not a four wheel.

946
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:28,000
So if you're not in the golf, if you're not

947
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,960
in an area that has so much uh, you know,

948
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:33,920
so much incline or anything which is a little more

949
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000
flat or terrain, you know, the navigators are great, a

950
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:41,079
great unit for us. So we've so we offer that

951
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:44,400
at fourteen ninety five, and those are what we call

952
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,679
our remote models, meaning that they are all remote controls,

953
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,519
and we do offer three others that are what we

954
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,239
call non remote. They are walking assists where they are

955
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,199
battery powered, but they you know, for the people that

956
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,679
are a little more a little more hesitant with attack,

957
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,440
and one of yeah, keep some control of the caddies.

958
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,920
We do have it. You know, a ZIP the ZIP

959
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
series has an X five and X three in an

960
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:10,719
X one. Our X five's at ten ninety nine and

961
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,559
that actually has a you know, downhill speed control and

962
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,440
hill breaking capability, and that starts at ten ninety nine.

963
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,199
And then then our X three is at eight ninety nine,

964
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,360
which is our which is our X three that is

965
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,960
very you know, same footprint as the X five, just

966
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,960
without the speed control, speed control, and hill breaking. Again

967
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,360
if you're in one of those flatter areas that just

968
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,199
don't you don't need all that all that uh, you know,

969
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,079
all that help. And then our X one is really

970
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:46,280
what we call our entry level you know, base model

971
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,400
for someone who's just looking for something to get from

972
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,519
pointing to point B, no frills, no nothing, that's our

973
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:52,639
six ninety nine option.

974
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,199
Speaker 4: Okay, very good, very good, Thank you for doing that.

975
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked so many times about people

976
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,719
getting nervous about spending a lot of money on a putter,

977
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,639
And come on, really, you're gonna spend a lot of

978
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,280
money on a driver and not on a putter.

979
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: I just don't understand it.

980
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: Think about what is more important to your game, what's

981
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,920
going to lower your score? So you're gonna spend more

982
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,840
money on a putter. Now we hear these numbers that

983
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,719
you've just given us, ranging from six ninety nine to

984
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,719
eighteen ninety five.

985
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: Amortize that, folks.

986
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a lot of money on the upfront,

987
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,679
no question about it. But think about the life you're

988
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,639
gonna if you use this for easily ten years, yeah,

989
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:39,159
if not longer, sure right, think about what you're saving

990
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,000
and the health benefits of allowing you to walk. That's

991
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:45,719
really the bottom line sales point on this is that

992
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,800
if you enjoy walking, you like walking, you need to walk,

993
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,920
You really should be walking. This is gonna help, absolutely,

994
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,199
It's make life a little easier and a little more

995
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,079
fun and give you a conversation piece.

996
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,199
Speaker 2: I think what you do is what I see a

997
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,719
lot of times when we do you know, a golf course,

998
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,239
Might you know get introduced to our products and they

999
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
bring it in for the first time. It always seems

1000
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,400
to start with one person that hey, hey, I got

1001
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,800
mister Jones here, you know, was interested in your mg

1002
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,320
I and we bring it in with him. All of

1003
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,119
a sudden, his buddies, his buddies are calling and you know,

1004
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,239
looking for it as well. And then you know, other

1005
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,159
members see it on a golf course and it really

1006
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,039
does organically grow, you know, club the club, and so

1007
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:34,840
it's we've just watched this, you know, really spread from Hey,

1008
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,199
I'm I'm doing it for myself, but then they're they're

1009
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,960
friends doing it, and I'll be honest, and you've, I know,

1010
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,159
you've done this, you know. The four you know, four

1011
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:46,679
of you walking together playing golf is a great you know,

1012
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
it's a great experience because you do, you talk a

1013
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,480
lot more. You're getting involved more socially that way, rather

1014
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,000
than being in a cart where you're you're really you're

1015
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:57,400
literally you know, you're not saying a word to anybody

1016
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,519
until you get to the green and and then you're

1017
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:00,000
off again.

1018
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: And so it immediately comes to my mind, is apocalypse

1019
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
now and those helicopters and you hear this the theme

1020
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:08,440
of flight to the Valcerries. I can just imagine being

1021
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,199
on a playing with a force and that all have

1022
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,719
the electric carts and the music.

1023
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Surely turns their heads. I mean, especially five years ago

1024
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,280
when we first started. I remember, you know, someone seeing

1025
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
this thing going down the fairway and they just what

1026
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,159
is that? You know, just never seen it before.

1027
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:29,599
Speaker 4: But you know, I understand it's a new Olympic sport.

1028
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:30,559
For twenty twenty.

1029
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Years, super right cart race, it's been fun.

1030
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:36,679
Speaker 4: Wise, No, you can have a little you know.

1031
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: I know, things like that. I think you're onto some friend.

1032
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:40,119
Speaker 4: I think so.

1033
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 3: I think we got some well and when I was

1034
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,800
when I first brought it out, one of my friends realized,

1035
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,400
one guy's carrying his bag, one guy's got a push cart,

1036
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,519
and I've got the electric one.

1037
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, no tech, low tech, high tech,

1038
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,440
high tech, all right with the high tech.

1039
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, thank you. Sure they're jealous.

1040
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 4: So mg dot com or in the United States, go.

1041
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:08,119
Speaker 2: To get WWUSTMGI golf dot com.

1042
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:11,079
Speaker 3: And also you can find lots more information about them

1043
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,840
on Instagram and Facebook. Just look up MGI Golf. If

1044
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,440
you're in the United States, go to MGI Golf North America.

1045
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,840
But you can just find things at MGI Golf and

1046
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,280
you're going to find everything you need to know. Billy,

1047
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,039
this has really been fascinating and I really appreciate the

1048
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,000
opportunity to try this out. You got me talking about

1049
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,079
a rabbit hole, man, You got me hooked on this thing.

1050
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,039
I'm really starting to enjoy it a lot more. Every

1051
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,880
round I'm playing and I'm getting better with it, and

1052
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,519
it feels like a new skill set on the golf course.

1053
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: Awesome, Bet, thank you so much. This is enjoyable. Thank you.

1054
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,599
Speaker 4: So here's the deal.

1055
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: MGI Golf has generously offered me to try two different

1056
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,719
models of their electric caddties over the last few months.

1057
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,280
I've now tested the Zip navigator at and more recently

1058
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,880
they're navigat AI GPS plus that has built in GPS,

1059
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,559
a cell phone sized full color touch screen that shows

1060
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,079
a graphic of the entire hole and front, middle back

1061
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:15,119
of the green. It keeps one person's score and is

1062
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,800
even Bluetooth enabled so that you can tuck your phone

1063
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,480
in your bag and if any calls or messages need attention, it.

1064
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:23,079
Speaker 4: Lets you know.

1065
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: Now, being a tech geek, I was pretty excited to

1066
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,880
see how well, I could incorporate the touch screen and

1067
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,239
data into my round and it's not bad. I still

1068
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,519
have to keep running amounts on a scorecard because I

1069
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,320
generally keep everyone scored during the round, and because I

1070
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,199
still use a shot scope, watch, a rangefinder for exact

1071
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,960
distance of the hole, and tags on my clubs to

1072
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:51,199
analyze my data after the round, it's kind of redundant.

1073
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:56,039
There is a learning curve that includes driving the cart

1074
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:59,760
via remote control that's kind of fun too. So I'm

1075
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
still trying to decide which unit I'm going to purchase

1076
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:06,760
because what I've found to be the three biggest benefits

1077
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,920
make it a slam dunk to keep one one. Both

1078
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,880
of these caddies fold up pretty small to keep in

1079
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,519
the back of my car, might even be a little

1080
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:22,400
smaller than the clickgear pushcart that I've used forever. Second,

1081
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,360
it makes the walk much much easier. Do you realize

1082
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,079
that approximately thirty four point five percent of all golf

1083
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:34,840
related injuries have to do with the back. That's why

1084
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,920
I've never been able to carry a bag during a

1085
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,920
round and always relied on a push cart and now

1086
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:44,480
an electric caddy. But for me, the greatest benefit is

1087
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,320
when I've hit a ball that goes into the trees

1088
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:51,000
or the tall rough, and it does happen on a

1089
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:55,880
regular every round, and then you find yourself walking twenty

1090
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,119
to thirty yards back and forth searching for the ball

1091
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:03,119
inside the tall grass. And then I finally find it,

1092
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,480
I can call the caddy back to me with the

1093
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:09,960
remote control, which not only saves unnecessary walking, it saves

1094
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:12,159
a lot of wasted time.

1095
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,559
Speaker 4: And let me also say their customer service is fantastic.

1096
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:19,559
I've had some issues with syncing my iPhone with the

1097
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:24,280
GPS Plus and they've been extremely helpful, friendly and attentive

1098
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,079
to my issues.

1099
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: So I continue to emphasize the importance of walking the course,

1100
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,559
and if you can justify amortizing the cost over a

1101
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:36,360
ten to fifteen years of playing more golf, at least

1102
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,719
ten to fifteen years, it's well worth your investigation. Now,

1103
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,800
I haven't talked about Golf Smarter Mulligans in a while,

1104
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:48,360
but you've probably figured out that it arrives every Friday

1105
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,159
on the same feed you get your new weekly episodes.

1106
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,920
So for the last five years we provide you with

1107
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,599
Golf Smarter Mulligans, which are the best episodes from our

1108
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,519
archives that are still just as valid today in helping

1109
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,039
you become a better, smarter golfer as they were when

1110
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,639
they were first release. Like this Friday Show from October

1111
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:13,039
of twenty twelve, where we talk to instructor Jeff Ritter

1112
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,400
on the first of his two episodes talking about his

1113
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:19,719
integrated approach to game improvement.

1114
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 4: Here's a taste.

1115
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 5: I've had clients come in and say, you know why

1116
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,039
I should be I practice all the time.

1117
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:26,599
Speaker 2: You know I should be able to repeat this.

1118
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 5: You know I should be able to hit a bunker

1119
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,639
shot or a pitch shot, or hit a t shot

1120
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,880
like Tyer woods. I mean I had people say that,

1121
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:34,679
and I said, you know what if you told about

1122
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:35,679
the Tyer Woodsey punch in.

1123
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:36,199
Speaker 2: The face right now?

1124
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,039
Speaker 5: Why because he's one of the world's greatest athletes and

1125
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:45,559
he spends about five thousand percent more time working on

1126
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,559
his game than you, And why in the world would

1127
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:48,960
you deserve to hit it like Ken.

1128
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: We talked about this before.

1129
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 5: You know, golf's not about who hits the best, it's

1130
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,679
about who misses it the least. People have to understand

1131
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:57,760
that in a coaching environment, if you're open, you are

1132
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,960
going to perform at a much highigher level, and you

1133
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,360
should do that immediately. But to own it and take

1134
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,360
it to the course and stand there with half the

1135
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,199
people in your club membership looking at you and rip

1136
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:10,239
it down the fairway just like.

1137
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,599
Speaker 2: You coach is there.

1138
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:14,599
Speaker 5: It's not going to happen until you deserve to have

1139
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:16,519
it happen. And that comes through that journey. And that's

1140
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,320
why golf is exciting because it takes a lot of

1141
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,199
hard work to play at a high level. It doesn't

1142
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:24,280
take a lot of hard work or to experience great

1143
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,079
ball flight, but it takes a lot of hard work

1144
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,079
to own that ball flight.

1145
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: I want to thank this week's Golf Smarter Ambassador, Rich

1146
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,719
Toman of Saint John's, Florida. Rich chose to receive Tony

1147
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:39,920
Manzoni's Lost Fundamental video just for sharing with us where

1148
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,519
he's from, what his favorite course or in his case,

1149
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,400
two favorite courses that he likes to play, and this

1150
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:48,760
episode number. It's that easy to get a free gift

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1153
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:57,719
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1156
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:06,800
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1157
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,400
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1158
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,320
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1159
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,800
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1160
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